1 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Two short weeks ago, we had. 2 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: A very very strange announcement in the news following Pentagon 3 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,359 officials suggesting that alien mothership may visit our Solar system 4 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,920 and launch similar probes to Earth. This is from the 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Gateway Pundit, Pentagon officials suggesting a draft paper that alien 6 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:45,280 visitors to our Solar system might be sending out smaller 7 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,920 probes to Earth, similar to NASA's mission studying emissions studying 8 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:53,399 other worlds. On March the seventh, of Pentagon's All Domain 9 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:57,560 Anomaly Resolution Offers, Director Sean Kirkpatrick and Harvard's an Astronomy 10 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Department Chair Abraham Leo published a draft paper of their 11 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,239 joint study into the physical limits of Unidentified Aerial phenomenon. 12 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Note that they've. 13 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:11,159 Speaker 2: Changed it from you know, the classic UFO talk to 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,640 unidentified aerial phenomenon. I want to bring up the NBC 15 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:21,239 announcement that came out following that Pentagon report. Well, the 16 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:25,359 NBC broadcast where they warned of this so called alien 17 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,439 mothership here it. 18 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:31,239 Speaker 3: Is, move over, Chinese spy balloon or whatever else. US 19 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,879 fighter jets shut down last month. Tonight out of Harvard University, 20 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:39,239 a draft people about mysterious flying objects sounding almost like 21 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:40,120 science fiction. 22 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: I think it's very likely that we are not the 23 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:48,439 most intelligent civilization that ever existed. 24 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: Renowned Harvard astronum er Rvi loebe teaming up with a 25 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,879 new head of the Pentagon's UFO office, dubbed the Old 26 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,439 domein Anomaly Resolution Office. Together they see that interstellar objects 27 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,879 detected in space could be so lines of extraterrestrial life, 28 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:05,000 and that current skymapping technology like the James Webb Space 29 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:06,920 Telescope could miss such objects. 30 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: It could have been a mother ship that released some 31 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,080 probes in the habitable region around the Sun. We have 32 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:18,039 a visitor to our backyard. We should observe it at first. 33 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: Professor Lobe now leading the charge to build better arrays 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,960 of sensors to capture anomalies, but saying for now everything 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 is hypothetical and his paper is really meant to remind 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,719 UFO hunters not to forget the laws of physics. 37 00:02:31,039 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: Not as the reports from military personnel are intriguy and 38 00:02:35,039 --> 00:02:38,719 motivate my work. Right now, I want my instruments to 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,520 tell me what is really happening. 40 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, more videos surfacing showing odd objects have been leaked 41 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,240 to documentary UFO filmmaker Jeremy Corbel, who recently released pictures 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,000 of an orb shape vermosol and these images showing a 43 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,240 cylinder flying over a rock. The Pentagon not commenting on 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,560 the recent videos, but confirming prior videos released by Corbel 45 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:01,439 had been filmed by service members. As for what they are, 46 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:08,000 definitive explanations were mean out of reach, Buddy Schwartz, NBC News. 47 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,759 Speaker 1: Well, there you have it. 48 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: We are now talking about a zombie virus that can 49 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:19,840 hijack the brain in the mainstream news and UFOs and 50 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:22,759 god knows what else. The point is that the coming 51 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,960 deception of this age, or the existing deception of this age, 52 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:31,560 is very very real, and the level of psychological operations 53 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,759 that the people are being subjected to is increasing. Someone 54 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,240 I thought would be a very very good guest to 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,599 have on regarding this topic as Jay Dyer, and he's 56 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:42,439 going to join us after this short break to discuss 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,919 Project Blue. 58 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Beam and what we need to be aware of. 59 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,199 Speaker 2: Head to Survival Supplies Australia, a Z Media partner today. 60 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:52,479 Speaker 1: To prepare you and your household. 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,719 Speaker 2: They have the most comprehensive range in the country for 62 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,520 all of your survival needs including long life, food, emergency, 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,960 twenty year lifebater, alternative power sources, and so much more. 64 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,479 Speaker 1: He to the link in the description below to let 65 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:07,840 them know you've come from Z Media. 66 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,599 Speaker 2: Jay Dyer is an author, comedian, and TV presenter known 67 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,160 for his deep analysis of Hollywood, g and politics and culture. 68 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:22,040 A regular guest of our broadcast, and you can find 69 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,480 all of his work on Jay's Analysis dot com. He's 70 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:27,639 got his own podcast, features as a regular guest host 71 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,839 of the Alex Jones Show The Fourth Hour, and regularly 72 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:34,279 engages in a variety of debates on religion, philosophy, and 73 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,279 much much more. Is just a wealth of knowledge and 74 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:40,120 we are personal fans of his work here at Z Media. 75 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:42,120 Thank you so much day for joining us today. 76 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 5: Thank you, Maria. Always glad to be back on your show. 77 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:47,839 And I've been working on my Maria's the impersonation. So 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:48,879 oh got it? 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Do I get to see it? 80 00:04:51,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? On to go near Vaccinida paper. That's my favorite 81 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,120 line of yours. I like that line. It's just me. 82 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,959 It's just I'm just having fun. So do not take 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,360 a person. 84 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:12,079 Speaker 2: I never never, I don't know if I've ever said 85 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,759 those words, but the accent is it's a it's a 86 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:15,600 pretty good effort. 87 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 6: Jay, it's just being silly. So don't worry the work 88 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:21,160 on my Australian accent. 89 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: You do, you do well. We appreciate everything you bring 90 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:26,560 to the table. 91 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 6: Jay. 92 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: Seriously, when I say Z Media's personal fans of your work, 93 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,120 I mean we watch your stuff regularly. 94 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:35,319 Speaker 1: You know, your analysis of the world. 95 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: And the psychological manipulation that is involved in the coming deception. 96 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,959 Speaker 1: Of any step really of the new world order. 97 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,079 Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that the psyops have increased, 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,879 the confusing level of syops has increased, and this really is. 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: The battlefield of the future. 100 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: So one particular thing, and right before you came on 101 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,600 with us, we played this clip from NBC Nightly News 102 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:07,199 about the Mothership. So I really want to get into 103 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:10,639 Project Bluebeam with you. And for those that don't know, 104 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,240 Serge Monast is the gentleman who is known to have 105 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:18,319 introduced this theory to the world. He was a Canadian 106 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:24,639 investigative journalist, poet, essayist, and what Wikipedia calls a conspiracy theorist. 107 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,879 Speaker 1: But this theory is reported to. 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: Be a. 109 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,519 Speaker 2: NASA conspiracy which was introduced in the mid nineties. The 110 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:37,839 theory claims that members of the Pentagon, NASA, and the 111 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,319 United Nations were collaborating on a plan to stimulate, simulate, sorry, 112 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:46,399 a fake alien invasion and stage second coming using hologram projections. 113 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:49,120 And we'll go through the steps, the four steps that 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,759 Surge outlined. But where do you want to start with this, Jay, 115 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,399 because there are so many elements, including the psychological manipulation 116 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,040 of mankind, to get us to maybe the point of 117 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:04,279 these hologram second Coming. 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I would start with the notion of discernment. 119 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: So I wrote about this back in my first book, 120 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,959 Esoteric Hollywood, because I just saw that through all of 121 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,480 the propaganda that they've been putting out, going back older 122 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,879 than one hundred years, we've been prepared for the narrative 123 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,279 of aliens. And this goes back to the famous propagandas HG. Wells, 124 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,279 who was a British Royal Society member, high level freemason, 125 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:39,240 rabid sort of a communist character who wanted to have 126 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,800 a world government. And so he would sort of brainstorm 127 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,279 all these different scenarios of how to convince people of 128 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,959 things like this, and how you could utilize these things 129 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,959 for psychological warfare and not too long after his writings, 130 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,720 there was the famous incident where Orson Wells, the movie director, 131 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:58,959 did the radio broadcast playing War of the World's or 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,759 the radio as if it was real alien invasion. And 133 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,759 this is actually a psychological warfare research project. I think 134 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,600 it was Stanford Princeton research project. There's actually an academic 135 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:14,079 text that was written on this by a guy named 136 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,199 Hadley Control. So if you're looking for the book, it's 137 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,120 called Invader Invasion from Mars by Hadley Control, and it's 138 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,480 about the study in the Psychosis of mass Panic. So, 139 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:31,519 and we've maybe heard about this in recent years with 140 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,639 the psychosis of mass panic, right, maybe you've heard about that. 141 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,159 I don't know if there's there might have been something 142 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,960 the past three years have happened that related to this 143 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,480 to mass panic anyway, So I believe it or not, 144 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,519 there's multiple pieces of data over the years that that 145 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,440 do suggest and show and prove that the alien narrative 146 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,720 has been studied in depth and has been utilized at 147 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,799 the white paper NGO think tank level. For example, I 148 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,759 uncovered a nineteen sixties Workings Institute document that I covered 149 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:03,919 in my second book that I also mentioned in the 150 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:05,519 Livestow the other day, and. 151 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 6: It was an institute. 152 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,279 Speaker 5: It was commissioned by NASA by the Brookings Institute, which 153 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:11,720 is one of the big top thing thanks like the 154 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,320 Rand Corporation or the Rockefeller Foundation, etc. And Brookings came 155 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,919 to the conclusion that if there was a discovery of 156 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,519 alien life, this would completely shake all Western Biblical based narratives. 157 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:27,480 So anything based on the Bible narrative would be completely undone, 158 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,799 and thus it would be useful for psychological warfare. So 159 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:32,639 we know there's a lot of precedent for this, even 160 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,279 in the White Papers and even the documents that discussed 161 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:41,480 social engineering and steering mankind's religious narratives and mythology. And 162 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:43,759 when we get up into more recent times, I think 163 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:47,799 that the key pieces of evidence that suggest this. 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,799 Speaker 6: There's a great book. 165 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: By the Collins Brothers called Invoking the Beyond, and there's 166 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,519 about a three hundred page this about it. It's a 167 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,840 thousand page book. It's about a three hundred page section 168 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:59,759 in that book that's just dedicated to the psyops relating 169 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:02,720 to the alien mythos and narrative. And when we look 170 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:04,960 to some of these famous cases like Betty and Barney 171 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,720 Hill or Georgia Damski. We actually find people like Allen 172 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:11,559 Dallas from the CIA in the background, shutting down cases, 173 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,480 shutting down investigations into their fraudulent stories, and of course 174 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:18,600 in the case of Betty and Barney Hill, we find 175 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:21,120 out that they go on to create an alien based cult. 176 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:24,679 We also find a lot of intelligence studies that go 177 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,279 into alien cults and understanding how they develop their narrative. 178 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,159 We can think of some of the biggest cults in 179 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,000 the world Xenu right with Scientology that has an alien narrative. 180 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,759 So in my view, these are useful techniques. We've seen 181 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,240 alien suicide cults with Heaven's Gate, We've seen other groups 182 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:48,600 that have similar ideologies that have been very dangerous, reeliens 183 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:51,440 as a cult, and they always have these shady intelligence 184 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,840 figures in the background. So when we come up to 185 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,840 issues like the MJ twelve, which is the Majestic twelve 186 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:02,960 document supposedly cover bring up the idea of alien arrival 187 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,559 and all this kind of stuff, in my view, my 188 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,919 opinion is it's all deception. I think it's black ops, 189 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,879 I think it's cover. It's a lot of different things. 190 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,679 But there was a monumental documentary that came out some 191 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,600 years ago about this called Mirage Men, and if nobody 192 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:17,600 has seen that, I highly recommend it because they actually 193 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,159 interview multiple people from counter intelligence, particularly from the Air Force, 194 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,799 who were involved in disseminating the alien mythology, and they 195 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,120 actually described the whole profile, how they profile the people 196 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,759 that they pick narcissistic weirdos that they go and tell them, oh, 197 00:11:32,799 --> 00:11:36,440 you're you're special. You know, the aliens have chosen you 198 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:39,279 to disseminate the you know, to be the galactic ambassador. 199 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,879 And I mean it's elaborate. They'll even say, let's bring 200 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,840 him to the base, have a general there. The general 201 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,960 pops in a VHS tape and it's a VHS tape 202 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,879 of something that the Air Force cooked up. 203 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: It's just fake. 204 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 5: They brought in a Hollywood Guide to film hovercraft taking off. 205 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,399 It's just a drone, right, And they talk about it 206 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,159 and depfinitely in that documentary and admit that, Yeah, of 207 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,480 course it's disinformation and psychological warfare. 208 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,399 Speaker 6: So it does many things. 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: So there's a great book by the journalist Annie Jacobson. 210 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,840 She did the famous History of DARPA, which I've lectured 211 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,000 through her history of DARPA books. She has another book 212 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:20,159 called Area fifty one where she goes into analyzing this 213 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:22,840 and pointing out that much of this seems to be 214 00:12:23,039 --> 00:12:28,080 a cover for black operations, for studies, for deep state technology, 215 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,559 and perhaps even a cover for other things like you know, 216 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:32,200 drug running. 217 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,159 Speaker 6: If the government's evolved in those kinds of activities, they would. 218 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: Use alien cover or something like this for what's going 219 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,759 on at perhaps these bases. So I tend to think 220 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:45,600 that that's the story that's correct, and those are two 221 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,039 resources that are really good on that. But on a 222 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:52,240 broader scale, I think that there's absolutely the possibility that 223 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:56,960 they would try to utilize a new religion or craft 224 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,799 some kind of new religious movement that would be more 225 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,320 minible two technocracy, to try to steer the global religions, 226 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,519 the world religions into something under perhaps an alien narrative. 227 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,279 Speaker 6: Oh it turns out, you know. 228 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,399 Speaker 5: If you've seen the movie Prometheus, right, it turns out, Oh, 229 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,639 we were seated here by the engineers and we were 230 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,600 accidental creations. The older version of this is called panspermia. 231 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:19,240 And this is the idea that I think even Isaac 232 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Newton and other people held this view that we were 233 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,240 seated here by alien visitors and they're coming back to 234 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,759 you know, see how their their you know, chif pets 235 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,480 are growing right where where the chifets are the aliens? 236 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:33,279 And so are we growing good? Or do we need 237 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,200 to be pruned? And and and you know, connected to 238 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,600 this is a lot a lot of the studies into psychedelics, 239 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,879 believe it or not. So I've read a lot on that. 240 00:13:42,919 --> 00:13:46,679 I've read most of the research relating to well, the 241 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,879 public books about the m Kilter doctors. I don't think 242 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:51,759 most of us have access to the actual Kuilter documents, 243 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:52,679 but there's quite a. 244 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 6: Bit of information on those guys. 245 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: And a lot of those doctors wrote their own books, 246 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,039 and they were many of them were psychoonauts and believe 247 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,440 that in a lot of their DMT trips they were 248 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,600 talking to aliens. 249 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 6: So that's an angle to this as well, which is 250 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,519 important to remember. 251 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: And there's actually academic institutions like Stanford that have been 252 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,960 engaged in studying ets and this kind of phenomenon because 253 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,480 they think that they might be contacting alien life. Of course, 254 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,480 if you have a Biblical view, then you know that 255 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:26,559 what's being contacted is of course demons, because Graham. Everybody started, 256 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,080 probably Graham Hancock, but you know, he has a book 257 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,759 out called Visions or Visionary excuse me, and and he's 258 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:37,200 he's openly a gnostic. And in Graham Hancock's view, a 259 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 lot of what shamans are doing when they contact the 260 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,679 gods as a direct parallel to what we see when 261 00:14:42,679 --> 00:14:45,720 people who are doing d MT and you know LSD 262 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,799 trips today. And so in my view that the most 263 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,399 obvious explanation, and you know basis for all this is 264 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:58,720 that it's demonic. Yeah, I mean, there's the government angle, 265 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:00,200 but it's it's the spirit. 266 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,879 Speaker 6: A bigness to mind it. 267 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I have to agree with you, a lot of. 268 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: A lot of work has been done in the realm 269 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:13,639 of psychedelics, and you know what we see as contacting 270 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:17,039 the demonic realm. You know, I've had people explain the 271 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,440 phenomenon to me what they experience when they're on psychedelics. 272 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,960 And for me, all my spidy senses are tingling saying 273 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,240 you need to stay away from this, like, you know, 274 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,159 don't go anywhere near it, because it is it is 275 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,039 some sort of contact with a realm. I think that 276 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,279 we don't want to be near the interesting thing Jay 277 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,919 is that a lot of people that I'm talking to 278 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,840 that are working in the quantum physics space and the 279 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:45,600 nanotechnology space is saying that the nanotechnology has a similar 280 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,039 effect where it's connecting people to the demonic realm. And 281 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:53,000 I think, you know, I watched this phenomenal video just 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:59,279 last night about a Weezer song which was you know 283 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,519 you Bastard or something along those lines, and the whole 284 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,559 video is just graphene and you know, graphene spilling out 285 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,200 of everything. And you said to me a very long 286 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,039 time ago that the vision is sort of nanotechnology coated cities. 287 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:23,159 Where that kind of really stuck with me because it 288 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:27,919 seems that that's the key, you know, the satanic takeover 289 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,240 through technology. But the interesting link here with Project Bluebeam, 290 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:34,240 and maybe we'll go through those steps, but one of 291 00:16:34,279 --> 00:16:39,399 the steps is basically telepathic thought control, which no doubt 292 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:45,159 would be made would be far more invasive, if you will, 293 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:49,320 or powerful if there was actually nanotechnology inside the human 294 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,120 brain that was able to alter thoughts as it is. 295 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that is what's in Ray Kurtzwell's books. He 296 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,360 does talk about that the nanotech will eventually be in 297 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:04,079 the brain. That's also in Klaus's book Fourth a Dust 298 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,920 Revolution and the last third of the book, as he 299 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,519 says that the future vision is to be able to 300 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,200 do that, and I think in both of those cases 301 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,640 they're projecting it into the future. 302 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,799 Speaker 6: How advanced that is, I. 303 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: Don't know, so I can't say, you know, if they 304 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:19,359 actually have that or if it's just in the works, 305 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,240 but that's definitely the kind of vision that they have. 306 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:30,319 And if you watch that great documentary in Cultra the Internet, 307 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,279 the Internet and Culture and the Unibomber. 308 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: Have you seen that? No, Oh, it's a muss see. 309 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: That was made in I think two thousand and four 310 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 or five, so it's a long time ago, but it's 311 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,279 a must see documentary because they interview a lot of 312 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:47,279 the Pentagon type people and Esslon Institute connected people who 313 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:50,240 are involved in the creation of the Internet. So there's 314 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,960 also relevance there in terms of mind control and how 315 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,359 that ties into you know, the Internet and frequencies and 316 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,640 bandway bandwidth transmissions and all this kind of stuff. But 317 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:06,279 they do intend to tie that into you know, what's 318 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:08,039 in the human mind. I just I don't know how 319 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:10,480 advanced that is yet, how far they can go with that. 320 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Well, without going through you know, the library of interviews 321 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:19,160 that I've done, I can just reference perhaps the fact 322 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,920 that they found that the nanotechnology, particularly in the vials 323 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,599 of the injections, is responding more aggressively in when it's 324 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,279 near a router for example, so you know, it forms 325 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:34,720 a lot quicker, it's far more advanced. And then when 326 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:38,599 you remove the router, it seems to disappear, but it 327 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,240 can reappear disappear, And one of the suggestions was that 328 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:44,640 this is actually happening through some sort of command in 329 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,279 the quantum realm getting the nanotech to respond. I mean, 330 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:52,599 it's awfully complex and Twilight Zone stuff, but to me, 331 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:56,920 very loosely, you know, looking from a bird's eye view, 332 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,359 it seems very possible and in line with what sort 333 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,720 of globalist agenda is in terms of mind control. So 334 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,079 I want to go through these steps with you, the 335 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,839 four steps of Project Bluebean. It's not necessarily going to 336 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,359 happen exactly this way, particularly because it's a known conspiracy 337 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:20,319 theory and therefore they would be adjusting their game plan 338 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,480 as they do all the time. 339 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:21,839 Speaker 4: Jay. 340 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: But the first step here is the breakdown of. 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: All archaeological knowledge via earthquakes, so numerous earthquakes around the 342 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,519 world that will apparently uncover some sort of archaeological artifacts 343 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:38,440 that tell us that what we thought about religion was 344 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:39,039 not true. 345 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 5: Your thoughts, I think that, yeah, if they did go 346 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,160 with a panspermia narrative that would fit into the possibility 347 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,480 of a new world religion based around aliens, that it 348 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,519 would have to also explain origins, right, and again that's 349 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:57,480 you know, I covered that my first book. I'm trying 350 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 to remember all that. There's tons of famous people that were, 351 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:04,240 you know, proponents of panspermia, like I think Watson of 352 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:06,519 Watson and Crick, you know, the discovery of DNA. He 353 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,480 was a big proponent of the idea that we were 354 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:10,440 seated by aliens. And we've even seen some of the 355 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,119 atheists warm up to that narrative, like Richard Dawkins in 356 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,279 recent years has said. 357 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 6: Well, like, yes, of course, if I was to believe 358 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:18,119 in God, I would believe that we were seated by 359 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,359 some alien. 360 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 5: God, right, so it has to be fitting into his 361 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:27,000 presuppositions of the Darwinian narrative anyway, So they would definitely 362 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,359 want to revise or have some new explanation to history 363 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,519 and that's actually in Prometheus, Like if you watch the movie. 364 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:34,359 I'm not trying to say it's true because of movies. 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,279 I understand movies or fiction, but movies are oftentimes preparing 366 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,240 us for narratives that they want to roll out. That's 367 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,599 why it's important to look to fiction. And in Prometheus, 368 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:50,240 the narrative is that there's these astrological astronomical glyphs that 369 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:53,319 have been placed all over the world in ancient pagan tribes, 370 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,640 and the scholars in the year you know, twenty four 371 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,960 hundred or whatever finally decode that it's I don't know 372 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,200 serious or who knows what constellation. I don't remember what 373 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480 it was, but you know, they're the ones that put 374 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:08,720 us there. So they need to give a story of 375 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920 the past to tell us where we're going to be 376 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,519 going in the future. And that's the main point of 377 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:17,160 revisionist historical narratives is that but prior to that, people 378 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,559 had a biblical view of history. And so if you've 379 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:23,279 just if you've deconstructed the biblical approach to history, then 380 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,279 naturally you'd want to replace it with something like that. 381 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,680 And I wouldn't be surprised if they wouldn't roll out 382 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,279 so that they may already be trying to roll that 383 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:32,759 out with what they've been pushing with panspermia and so. 384 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,039 Speaker 6: To have, you know, new discoveries. I wouldn't be surprised. 385 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think this is it is a 386 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,720 very specific prediction. And that's why I say, you know, 387 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 the breakdown of all archaeological knowledge via earthquakes. I mean 388 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,240 they could they can create earthquakes these days. Questionably Turkey 389 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,319 was one of those. But you know, because it's so specific, 390 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,519 and because so many people know about it, and because 391 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,680 we're talking about it, there could be so many different 392 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:06,799 variations to how they roll this out. But it does 393 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,680 seem and I heard you say this on the Alex 394 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:13,359 Jones Show recently, that it does seem to be the 395 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,119 preferred method because it lines up with their goal of 396 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,000 this one world religion, unifying the world under one world religion. 397 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: And it's quite interesting, Jane. 398 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,599 Speaker 5: Maybe and the technology the endplan, yes, yes, right, all 399 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:30,200 the all the alien stories have ah, they put a 400 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,519 chip in me. Oh well that's just you know, happens 401 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:33,680 to be what Class wants to do. 402 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, maybe Class is the alien maybe, But what's 403 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,119 interesting to me, Jay, and I'd like to get your 404 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,519 take on this before we move on to the other steps. 405 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:51,480 Is there's simultaneously this this confusion, so that the level 406 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,119 of psyops is that everything is confusing and it takes 407 00:22:57,279 --> 00:23:00,200 a lot of time, research and dedication to so sort 408 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,319 of see where things are at. And at the same 409 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,640 time that they're trying to create unity on global issues 410 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,799 like climate change or COVID or whatever it may be, 411 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,359 you know, the trans stuff, whatever it may be creating 412 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,240 this unity, at the same time they're creating division. It's 413 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:24,000 really fascinating to witness how. 414 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: They's the that's the our chemical process. So you break down, 415 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:34,839 you dissolve, coagulate back into the new form. So yeah, 416 00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:37,240 you have to break down all the existing structures to 417 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:39,799 rebuild it into the new structure that you want. 418 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 419 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:44,599 Speaker 2: And so when people are witnessing this chaos and thinking, 420 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,799 you know, how can we ever, I'm certain people have thought, 421 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:49,640 how can we ever come together as a human race 422 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:55,160 against this agenda when there's so many competing agendas, so 423 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:01,200 many competing issues, you know, and within every agenda, say 424 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,960 climate change, there's a million other different problems within that. 425 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,160 You know, it's so complex, and people just feel like it's. 426 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: This giant. 427 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,839 Speaker 5: It's not though in the sense that I mean it 428 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,519 has all these components because it's an attempt to change 429 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,799 every area of life. But really it's just a simple plan. 430 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,839 They want a world government, a world currency, a world 431 00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:24,960 religion that promotes the world government, total control, total surveillance, 432 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:29,599 and eventually depopulation in some form or fashion. So that's 433 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,640 the plan, very simple, straightforward. It's been the plan for 434 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,920 a long time in many, many official documents that that 435 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,839 we've lectured through. And so the alien mythos are narrative 436 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,480 is just one of those highly potentially useful cards they 437 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,279 could play. 438 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 6: That they could go with. 439 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:50,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. 440 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,519 Speaker 2: So the second step of Project Bluebeam is a mammoth 441 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:59,839 style light show and holograms simulating the second Coming of Christ. 442 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. 443 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, so. 444 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 5: You know they I kind of think that there's two 445 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 possibilities there that could definitely be done. 446 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:14,599 Speaker 6: If they did do something like that. The new Jesus 447 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,000 would be a Jesus who. 448 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,799 Speaker 5: Promotes something ecumenical, something syncretoius. Oh, all the world religions 449 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:24,319 and I spoke through the Buddha, I spoke through them 450 00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:29,200 through Mohammed. That would be very synonymous with the religious 451 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480 proclivities of the United Nations and UNESCO. If you look 452 00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:38,240 at the spiritual founders of UNESCO, it's Blavatsky, Bailey and Bason. 453 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,279 You know, three witches who were openly advocates of what 454 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:47,160 they called Theosophy. And Alice Bailey has a ten point 455 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,480 plan for the destruction of Christianity and the creation of 456 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,039 a new world religion that utilizes theosophy. That's the predecessor 457 00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,599 to the New Age. I did a video on that 458 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 if you want to find that a few months ago. 459 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:02,000 It's Alice Bailey's ten point plan for the destruction of 460 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:03,519 Christianity and the implementation. 461 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 6: It's a real thing. 462 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,279 Speaker 5: It's it's in her volumes. We went to the actual 463 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,839 documents and showed her plan, and she's the spiritual mother 464 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,240 along with Madam Blevaski. 465 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:14,599 Speaker 6: Of the United Nations. 466 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: So that's the official spiritual approach of the un and 467 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,279 things like alien avatars or a new kind of Jesus 468 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:25,480 that's amenable to some kind of New Age movement would 469 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,640 be absolutely perfect. In fact, I have one of the 470 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,599 books I haven't done yet. It's called The christ Consciousness 471 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 by I just won't like on that guy's name, but 472 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,279 he's like one of the key figures at the UN 473 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,880 as well, and he pausits in terms of their their spirituality. 474 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:46,200 And remember their book publishing thing was originally called Lucifer 475 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Publishing and then they changed it to Lucia's Trust. And 476 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,039 I'm trying to remember that guy's name. It's not Benjamin 477 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,519 Kremis the other it's another guy. And he has a 478 00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:58,160 book called The Christ Consciousness, and it's one it's promoted 479 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,200 by the same group. 480 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 6: And so they want a new Jesus. 481 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: And so that kind of a Jesus would definitely fit 482 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,799 into the narrative that you're talking about, where if they 483 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,920 did run a simulation of a Return of Christ something 484 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,039 like that, it would be this deception. It would be 485 00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:16,559 a Christ that teaches some new form of new Christianity 486 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,880 where it's all the world religions like Pote for Antis 487 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,720 is promoting with his Abu Dhabi multi faith house that 488 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,839 they just built and inaugurated. 489 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,079 Speaker 6: It would be something like that. So I could definitely 490 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,960 see that being used. 491 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: Or the other option would be that rather than using 492 00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:35,039 hologram technology, they just have really advanced drones that would 493 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:35,880 do the same purpose. 494 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,039 Speaker 6: Or used both. 495 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,839 Speaker 1: I just had a quick look while you were talking. 496 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:43,680 Is it Norman Paulson, Is that the gentleman you're talking about? 497 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,799 Speaker 6: Now, let me see that. I just can barely. 498 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: I can't see the actual It's okay. 499 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: I just I knew it was bothering you that you 500 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,839 couldn't remember it, so I tried to. 501 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Have a look. 502 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 6: It always does go ahead. 503 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:05,039 Speaker 1: This is the interesting thing. So so hologram technology. 504 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: I've been looking into this and I want to talk 505 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,400 more on it, you know, in upcoming broadcasts. But even 506 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,759 if you look at you know, just a quick Google 507 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:19,680 search for is barium used in hologram technology, it's it's 508 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,720 It lists things like barium strontium that were previously used 509 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:30,000 in holographic systems. Funnily enough, you look up the stuff 510 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:37,359 that's in chemtrails, very very similar, very similar components in 511 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000 the chemtrails. So, you know, I've just had a quick look. 512 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 On geoengineering watch dot org got interviewed Dane Wiggington before 513 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,200 there's a there's a whole host of documents. 514 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,359 Speaker 1: They're available for people. But it talks about. 515 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Independent testing of chemtrails being found has shown a dangerous, 516 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,799 extremely poisonous brew that includes barium, nano aluminum coated fiberglass, 517 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,000 radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, desiccated blood, mold spores. 518 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,759 Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, it's discussed by the way, it's I. 519 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 6: Got the title wrong. Excuse me. I did find the 520 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,279 book's I. 521 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: Knew you would, Reflections on the Christ by David Spangler. 522 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,279 Speaker 2: That's it, okay, So so yes, A lot of these, 523 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:16,960 a lot of the stuff that's in keem Trails is 524 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,119 in was previously used for holographic technology. Now I think 525 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,799 they've advanced since then, but it's very very possible. And 526 00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,200 again I don't know enough on this yet, but it's 527 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:28,599 very possible. 528 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: That that is going to aid in how realistic the 529 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,480 holograms are. 530 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,759 Speaker 5: There's definitely some truth to that, because there's a great 531 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:44,200 documentary that came out maybe ten years ago by Italian 532 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480 documentary filmmakers and it's called. 533 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 6: You won't be able to find on YouTube. 534 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,599 Speaker 5: It's probably on a bit shoot or you know, some 535 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,880 other platform kim Trail's The War against Us or something 536 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,240 like that, but it's the you have to watch the 537 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,319 one that's the Italian documentary because they go through the 538 00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:05,799 Air Force document which discusses. I think it's the Air 539 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,519 Force twenty twenty five document. Anyway, that document talks about 540 00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:15,279 spraying the air for multiple purposes. So the atmosphere geoengineering 541 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,240 according that Air Force document. First it has to do 542 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,599 with transmissions of communications, so cell phones work better when 543 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,319 you have those kinds of things in the atmosphere. So 544 00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:28,000 that's one reason for it. Other reasons could be, you know, 545 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,920 experimentation obviously people have theories about that, and then other 546 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,880 reasons beyond that blocking out the sun. 547 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,039 Speaker 6: You know, there's a whole host of things that could 548 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:36,680 be done with that. 549 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: But I would not be surprised because what the element 550 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,640 that you're talking about ties into the usage of that 551 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:49,519 for various I mean, if you're doing some of the holograms, 552 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:50,839 it's kind of the same thing that you would be 553 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,000 doing with like ground based cell tower type stuff. So 554 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,839 I wouldn't be surprised. As well as satellite stuff. 555 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:02,599 Speaker 2: Too, Yes, I think the satellites are involved, and this 556 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,039 is something that I'm discovering as I'm as I'm digging 557 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:12,359 deeper on this subject. Again, these particular things that we 558 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:18,039 mentioned before were previously used in hologram technology. As I said, 559 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:20,759 we've come a long way, but no doubt they would 560 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:24,960 still be aiding in the success of really elaborate holograms 561 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,160 in some way. And so, yes, what you're saying is 562 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,079 absolutely correct. We move on to step three, which is 563 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,079 telepathic thought control by the Antichrist. The next step will 564 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:39,720 be the use of extra low frequency, very low frequency, 565 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,920 and low frequency waves to essentially brainwash people into believing 566 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000 God is speaking to them directly. 567 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:47,759 Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. 568 00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:52,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, voice of school technology has been around 569 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,000 for a long time. It's old school. 570 00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 5: It's actually there's a movie called Real Genius which has 571 00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,960 Val Kilmer, and I recommend watching if you've never seen it, 572 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,160 because it's it's a funny eighties movie, but it's about 573 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,559 basically the Pentagon Star Wars Defense UH Project and DARPA 574 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,680 recruiting all these nerdy kids to work on lasers and 575 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640 voice to skull technology and all that kind of stuff, 576 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,279 and so it's it's humorous. But you'll notice that, I 577 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,160 mean that's going back to like nineteen eighty four or five. 578 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,359 It was one of Doug Kilmer's first movies. So yeah, 579 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,960 and and the plot of the movie, they're they're they're 580 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,839 doing directed energy weapons stuff. So directed energy weapons are 581 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,119 old school, goes back to like Tesla tech. Really all 582 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,599 the Internet stuff is built on the Tesla, you know, 583 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:40,480 wireless technology, and you know the Navy, the Pentagon, these 584 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,440 different entities have been working on and studying directed energy 585 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,759 weapons and lasers going back to the sixties and seventies. 586 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:54,400 So so that definitely exists, and the potentiality of utilizing 587 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,880 those on a continental basis is discussed by Brazinski in 588 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000 between two ages. He has a section at the beginning 589 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,680 where he talks in the first chapter where he talks 590 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880 about the mutating man ultimately for the purpose of being 591 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,519 controlled by a sky neet, and then there's a footnote 592 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,599 where he talks about ELF and VLF ways being able 593 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 to be used to either agitate an entire content or 594 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,079 calm them down make them docile. So that's definitely real 595 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,000 to what degree, I mean, I think that a lot 596 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,039 of what's in place is ultimately for that purpose. And 597 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,000 I'm sure, as Klaus says, you know, they want to 598 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,720 tie in in the nanotech and all that to. 599 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,359 Speaker 6: This as well. 600 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: That's in Michael Aquino's Mine Word to Sye War document 601 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,480 where he if you read all the way down the 602 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,359 footnotes at the at the bottom of the document. He 603 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,519 says that humans are antennae and this is to control 604 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:47,279 the humans all this stuff. And he was the Satanist 605 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:53,440 colonel in military that wrote the Army Psychological Warfare Doctrine 606 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,079 mine word to cy war. 607 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:56,079 Speaker 6: And he talks about, you. 608 00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:01,039 Speaker 5: Know, using these ELFVLF transmissions to you to do the 609 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,000 very thing that Brazienski talked about in. 610 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,279 Speaker 2: A recent interview I conducted with Todd Calendar and Lisa McGee. 611 00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,360 For anyone who hasn't seen that, I encourage you watch it. 612 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,599 He talks about we go through the humans as antenna 613 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,360 and humans as walking batteries and walking cyborgs and all 614 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,960 this sort of stuff. 615 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: And he actually. 616 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: Provides evidence of how this is in the shots enabling this, 617 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,599 but not only in the shots. It's in food, it's 618 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,800 in the air, it's in water, it's in everything. 619 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 620 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,199 Speaker 1: And and you know, again with the things. 621 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,519 Speaker 2: That we've found about nanotechnology, it suggests that potentially. 622 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: It can recreate. 623 00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,519 Speaker 2: Or be a duplicate of even your brain neurons and 624 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,320 then kind of overcome them, which is what they talk about, 625 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,679 this this hacking of the human brain that they're open 626 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,880 about now and and really just mind control manipulation. 627 00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:00,199 Speaker 1: Organizations like rand dot org talk about this. 628 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,159 Speaker 2: Karen Kingston exposed this some time ago, where they say 629 00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,559 that they'll have the ability to cause humans to do 630 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,280 things that they wouldn't normally do. There's an ethical problem 631 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,039 here we need needs to be addressed, hasn't been addressed, 632 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:13,679 you know. 633 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: So it's definitely possible. 634 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,679 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Jay, you know, back then they're 635 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,119 talking about this telepathic thought. 636 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,639 Speaker 1: Control, you know, low frequency, very low frequency. How much more. 637 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,119 Speaker 2: Effective would that be if people's brains are filled with 638 00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:29,320 this nanotechnology? 639 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,599 Speaker 1: I mean it's terrifying stuff. 640 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,599 Speaker 6: Yeah. Again, I mean that that is the goal. That 641 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,559 is what they discuss. 642 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 5: And you know, I'll defer to you I haven't I 643 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,519 haven't interviewed experts on you know, where nanotech is, so 644 00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:43,239 that I can't in terms of how advanced it is, 645 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,320 So I can't say for sure. And I'm aware of 646 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,880 the the doctors that have discussed that they believe that 647 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,760 this is what's in the vaccines and all that, and 648 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,760 I wouldn't be surprised. I think there was a study 649 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,440 that came out of NIH you know, associating the COVID 650 00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:03,719 reactions to you know, various distances to five G and 651 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,519 cell towers and all that. So they definitely studied that, 652 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360 so I wouldn't be surprised, so it wasn't true. I 653 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,079 just it's just not an area that I know for 654 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,639 sure that's the case. But I would not be surprised 655 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,119 because that is definitely the stated goal. Yeah, yeah, I 656 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:18,239 just don't know how advanced it is. 657 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they don't want us to. 658 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,559 Speaker 5: One of the things I think is going on with 659 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:23,679 alien stuff too, is that I think that some of 660 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:29,159 these alien videos and UAPs that you know, it's entirely 661 00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,039 possible that they're just highly advanced drones and so that 662 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,280 they're gonna say, oh, you see this is alien craft. Well, 663 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,119 that's just a really advanced form of drone that they 664 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,239 have that we just don't understand that technology. 665 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 6: Maybe they have some kind of you. 666 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 5: Know, anti gravity or I'm just speculating, you know, that's 667 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,480 that propels the drone. I don't know, but I'm not 668 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,199 gonna jump to the conclusion that, Oh well, then I 669 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,400 guess all of the you know, religion that's passed down 670 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480 in the history of Western civilization, the Bible is all 671 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,239 false because I saw a drone that acts weird. 672 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 6: Right, I mean, yeah, you know what I mean. 673 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 5: Like, I'm supposed to jump to the conclusion that there's 674 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,760 extraterrestrial life because I see this grainy video of an 675 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,199 orb floating around or something like that, Right, So, okay, 676 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,559 either that or it could be something demonic, And there's 677 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:16,280 no reason for me, in other words, to jump to 678 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,239 the conclusion that aliens are the case. And that's usually 679 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,519 the narrative that they want to push. 680 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:22,079 Speaker 6: Is that. 681 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,119 Speaker 5: Grainy video therefore aliens therefore bible not true, right, I mean, 682 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:27,840 it's really silly. 683 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is silly. 684 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,119 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, you know, and this is potentially 685 00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,360 part of the reason why it's always grainy videos, because 686 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,039 when the deception of this, if this is the path 687 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,880 they're going down, when the deception actually happens, it will 688 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,519 be far more realistic and so and so it'll it'll 689 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,480 seem more real All those rubbish videos were for a purpose, 690 00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:52,239 you know, filmed on a potato, because because it's it's 691 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719 it's going to seem so much more realistic if it happens. 692 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,199 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, it doesn't at all. 693 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: Make me question the validity of the Bible. All all 694 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,800 it does is prove to me that they will go 695 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,880 to great lengths to deceive the world into thinking that 696 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,000 the Bible specifically isn't true. The final step that is 697 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,320 listed by SURGE is a simulated alien invasion beginning of 698 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,840 the year twenty twenty four or maybe sooner. I mean, 699 00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:21,320 I can't say for sure that that's when it's going 700 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,840 to happen, or that it will definitely happen, but. 701 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,119 Speaker 1: We just did see that. 702 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,079 Speaker 2: You know, we're seeing this increase the Pentagon, particularly after 703 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,639 the spy balloons, and then the Pentagon comes out and says, 704 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,119 you know, who was it that came out of that 705 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,400 briefing and said lock your doors tonight? Oh goodness, I 706 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,079 can't remember who it was now, Jay, But they came 707 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,400 out of a briefing after these spy balloons and what 708 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,920 are they and said lock your doors tonight. 709 00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:49,199 Speaker 6: Yeah again, And that's what's that. 710 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,119 Speaker 1: Senator John Kennedy, it was. 711 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Senator John Kennedy concluded his observations on today's Classified Senate 712 00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:59,000 UFO breedings with lock your doors tonight. 713 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,559 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's been two weeks now, I think, 714 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,320 since NBC Nightly News said there may possibly perhaps be 715 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,599 the alien. 716 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 6: Mothership above you. 717 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,639 Speaker 5: Right now, we're not talking about p Funk's mothership. We're 718 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,480 talking about an alien mothership, which is supposedly, you know, 719 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,760 watching overs and sending out probes. All of that I 720 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,840 think is just ridiculous. But what's funny about that is 721 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,320 that now it's being stated on NBC Nightly News that 722 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,159 there may be an alien mothership. So to me, that 723 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,880 signifies that we're going to continue that rollout of the 724 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,559 alien narrative, the alien mythos. 725 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,559 Speaker 6: So I would not be. 726 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 5: Surprised if they don't try to run with some sort 727 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,159 of reception like that by twenty twenty four. Like you said, 728 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,039 twenty twenty five, it's again entirely possible, whether it's holograms 729 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:42,119 or drones or whatever. 730 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 6: In my mind, it won't be real. 731 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 5: And have you ever watched or read Childhood's In by 732 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,159 Arthur C. 733 00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 6: Clark? 734 00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:51,519 Speaker 5: Oh, you need to watch that bit rita because that's 735 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:55,360 in that there's an alien arrival, and it's in the 736 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,320 novel it's actually demons. And Arthur C. Clark was in 737 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,599 the circles of Crowley. He's, you know, probably the most 738 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,119 famous science fiction writer the last sixty years. Because he 739 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,239 did two thousand and one Space Out to See twenty ten, 740 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,639 three thousand and one, So the whole narrative of his 741 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,639 science fiction is transhumanism and Luciferianism. Openly, that's not my speculation, 742 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,880 that's his view, and Arthur C. Clark had in that story, 743 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000 which there's not a movie of that, but the Sci 744 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,480 Fi Channel did a really good, i think, four or 745 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:25,000 five part series. 746 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:27,679 Speaker 6: Of Childhood's In. 747 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 5: So if you just if you want to see what's 748 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,159 really behind all this alien stuff, just watch childhoods In. 749 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 6: Because Carollen is a demon. 750 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,599 Speaker 1: I'd really love to get your take on. 751 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,559 Speaker 2: The deception involved in setting up the stage for this 752 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,920 one world leader. We all know that that's the ultimate goal. 753 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:54,000 What sort of tactics do you foresee in the coming 754 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:59,079 years or yea or whenever to really drive because right 755 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,920 now there are a lot of people that see this 756 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:01,360 for what. 757 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: It is and they're very staunchjy. 758 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 2: But the attack will come on those people as well, 759 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:08,559 making them question their. 760 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,159 Speaker 1: Very own beliefs. We know that from scripture. 761 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: So what do you think they will what sort of 762 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,840 lengths will they go to or how will they successfully 763 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,840 deceive more people? 764 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,639 Speaker 5: I think that the it's kind of like a total 765 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,239 operation Chaos where they're using every area of life being 766 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:38,800 disrupted in undermined and subverted government, economy, religion, everything is 767 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,480 kind of being subjected to a form of dividing conquer 768 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,960 such that it's destabilizing everyone. So I think that there's 769 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,880 an attempt to destabilize anything that we ground people. And 770 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,360 for example, you know, you had that CDC guy when 771 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,119 he before COVID it was like twenty eighteen or whatever, 772 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,159 twenty sixteen, where he was in that meeting saying that 773 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,599 we want to bring in a completely new medical system 774 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,360 and we're going to explode the existing system from within. 775 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,840 So that subversion and collapse from within is an approach. 776 00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,559 Speaker 6: That does exist. 777 00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 5: It's very real, and that's I think probably what's going on. 778 00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:20,360 And so I think they're going to continue with more 779 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:27,400 and more destabilization control chaos. It may may get uncontrolled, 780 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,800 it may go out of their hand. You know that 781 00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,400 they may lose control of the big bubble economy that 782 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,519 they've created. So I think in regard to this large 783 00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,400 scale deception with religion and aliens and all this, I 784 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,159 think they'll they'll continue to push and see how well 785 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,360 it's being received. I don't think they're going to push 786 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,000 anything like if more and more people, you know, spoke 787 00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:52,599 out against and realized that the alien stuff was a 788 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,400 bunch of boloney, then they wouldn't roll with it, right, 789 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,039 They're only going to roll with something that I think 790 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,280 they think most people would fall for. So, and we 791 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,559 do have in Second Thessalonians, you know, the prediction that 792 00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,880 there is a strong delusion that will be sent to 793 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,199 people that don't love the truth as their punished. The 794 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,360 delusion is the punishment according to Saint Paul. So the 795 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,880 figure of Antichrist, whether we are in the end times 796 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960 or not, there's always going to be Antichrist. John says 797 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:21,519 in scripture that you know, there are many Antichrist and 798 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,360 that spirit is always offered in the world until the 799 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,639 end of the world. And then we have that sort 800 00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,840 of culmination at the end of the world whenever, that 801 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,039 is with the spirit of with Antichrist essentially doing a 802 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,039 kind of mimicked version of the incarnation where he comes 803 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,840 as a foil to Christ to try to unite the 804 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,199 world around, you know, a new world, religion and peace 805 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,320 and all this kind of stuff. 806 00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,639 Speaker 6: And the alien narrative could definitely fit into that. Whether 807 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:47,920 that is the case, I don't know. 808 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 5: But you know, again we see with what Antichrist will promote, 809 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,280 something very synonymous with transhumanism world religion, that all kind 810 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,280 of coalesces very well into the type of story or 811 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,960 narrative that Antichrist will preach, which will be a anti 812 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,679 version of Christianity based around you know, man becoming his 813 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,599 own God. You know, this kind of the classes that 814 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,679 are Luciferian ideas. 815 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: And very anti. 816 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 2: Creation as in the true story of creation, making you 817 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,119 hate yourself, making you hate humanity, and we need to 818 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,519 be a different kind of humanity, and all of this 819 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,199 stuff is happening simultaneously. 820 00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 6: Well, just why again, all of the stuff from Arthur C. 821 00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 5: Clark is based on this because two thousand and one, 822 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,079 two thousand, if you watch twenty ten, man goes into 823 00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:40,159 the universe to see the universe under they're called the 824 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,199 suns of Light, so they're Luciferian and they see the 825 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,760 universe through transhumanism and become a new type of being 826 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,320 because they evolve. And in the original story of two 827 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,239 thousand and one, Starchild, the new baby that's born, he 828 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440 nukes Earth because Earth needs to be depopulated. 829 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 6: In the separate story Childhood's. 830 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 5: In when the when the demons come as alien visitors, 831 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,360 they take all the generation of children that have just 832 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,119 been born and they nuke Earth because Earth needs to 833 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:12,239 be depopulated. So again, it's just it's all in Arthur 834 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239 cy Clark's stuff right there, because he was a completely evil, 835 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,760 wicked person hanging out with Ulster Croley. 836 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: They're all wicked and evil, and I think the resolve 837 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,159 of people that see and understand that is growing stronger. 838 00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,960 But I think you raise something important, which was that, 839 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,639 you know, if enough people realize that this isn't that 840 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,079 the alien stuff is bogus, they'll move to a different plan. 841 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:37,599 But the point is that they'll always move to a 842 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,039 different plan because their final goal will be achieved one 843 00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:41,960 way or another. It's written. 844 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,639 Speaker 1: But the very, very crucial. 845 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: Thing is for people to guard themselves against the deceptions, 846 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,360 which is why, you know, one of the one of 847 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,360 my missions in life is to expose this stuff jas 848 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,599 so that people will be aware, because I recall having 849 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:04,199 conversations in my previous church, you know, with with leadership 850 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,480 and saying do you think that we're witnessing the great falling? 851 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: Away, like this watering down. 852 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,119 Speaker 2: Of the world and things like that, and it particularly 853 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:12,719 in you know, Protestant movements and things like that. 854 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: It's it's really bad hyper grace. 855 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: And you know, essentially do as thou wilt and God 856 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,159 will forgive it. You know, it's really serious stuff. And 857 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,519 I think that this is in line with the plans 858 00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,400 of the New World Order. Maybe there's an infiltration of Christianity, 859 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,920 you know, just having these conversations. 860 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:32,079 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we just said multiple livestreams on how Christianity 861 00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,480 is subverted through foundations and the government and big money. 862 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, altely. 863 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: But the scary thing is Jay that the response I 864 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,719 was given is that as long as you're going in 865 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,559 the direction of most people, you're pretty safe. 866 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,599 Speaker 1: Which is literally the opposite of what the Bible says. 867 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 6: Right, foolish wisdom, foolish advice there. 868 00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 869 00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: So the reason I bring this up is because I 870 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,800 think that being aware of the possibility, you know, we 871 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,639 shouldn't be immersed. 872 00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:04,519 Speaker 1: All the time and conspiracies. 873 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,199 Speaker 2: Our faith should be the driving force of our life, 874 00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,159 but we need to have some sort of awareness. How 875 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,880 much do you think how important do you think it 876 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,079 is for the church to actually be warning of some 877 00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:17,840 of these things. 878 00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 5: I think that there should be people within churches that 879 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,639 have discernment and the gifts of discernments such to do that. 880 00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,960 I mean, Paul talks about having discerning a discernment of 881 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,559 spirits as a gift. So certain people do have this 882 00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,559 wisdom and knowledge and discernment, and you know, people should 883 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:41,719 listen to them. So you know, we have Orthodox saints 884 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,559 for example, or people that are about to be sayings. 885 00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,960 So Father serfrom Rose who wrote a famous book called 886 00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:48,440 Orthodoxy in the Religion of the Future, where he predicted 887 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,800 that there might be the usage of an alien mythos 888 00:47:51,840 --> 00:48:00,639 or narrative. He discusses them as demons as well. So 889 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,920 this is a classic book from that from the Orthodox perspective. 890 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,800 So and I think he's probably going to be considered 891 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,960 a more recent sat in the Orthodox Church in America. 892 00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:14,360 So you know, we have people talking about that. Unfortunately, 893 00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,280 it should be more people. It's not as many as 894 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,440 it should be. But yeah, I don't think it takes 895 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,519 a whole lot of knowledge per se to have this 896 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,239 discernment because a lot of this is just out there. 897 00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:28,000 I think the biggest thing is to not get fooled 898 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,920 by disinformation or you know, like you said, lost going 899 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,480 down rabbit holes in terms of information that's not credible 900 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,039 or coming from goofy weird people who obviously. 901 00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 6: Don't know what they're talking about. 902 00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:44,039 Speaker 5: And I would say, you know, start with, you know, 903 00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:47,559 the good documentaries like I mentioned, Watch Mirage Men, Watch 904 00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,480 Kim Trail's a Secret War, which is on bit shoot, 905 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239 which I just texted that I found it. It's the 906 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,639 twenty fourteen documentary from Italy. 907 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 6: I mean, all this this kind of stuff. 908 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 5: Is pretty you know, pretty easy to spot once you 909 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,440 kind of know what's going on and what's going down. 910 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,159 So but it's it's unfortunate because it would be greater 911 00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,079 for more people in churches talking about it. But I 912 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,079 think a lot of people are just ignorant, and a 913 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:10,039 lot of people are scared. 914 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 6: A lot of people are. 915 00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 5: I don't know, they they would follow rather follow sports 916 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480 ball and you know, garbage like that. But yeah, you know, 917 00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:22,800 sports ball is not going to be there if there's 918 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,599 a giant economic collapse. Yeah, if we have another if 919 00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:29,840 we have if we have COVID twenty seven right, which 920 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,320 rolls out right, we're not going to have sports ball. 921 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:36,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned something as well from two Thessalonians that 922 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,119 says that the great deception, a huge deception, will come 923 00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:43,960 over those that don't love the truth. We already saw 924 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,880 this in full, full action over the past three years. 925 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,199 You know, people always say to me, and regardless of 926 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,519 the fact that there's been some success in waking some 927 00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:54,039 people up, I've shared a. 928 00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:55,599 Speaker 1: Huge success story the other day. 929 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 2: But but you know, for the most part, it's more 930 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:04,400 of this just glazed over blank look that. 931 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,119 Speaker 1: These people just it can't penetrate their minds. That may 932 00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:12,119 already be one type of mind control that's happening. 933 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 6: I won't I won't. 934 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 2: I won't discount that that's a possibility, you know already 935 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,280 through the technology. But really it is this, it's it 936 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,960 just seems like a veil jay where they can't see 937 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:24,880 or love the truth. 938 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:26,639 Speaker 6: It is. 939 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing is that the irony is 940 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,639 in that text, is that the punishment is that you're 941 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,039 given over to the delusion because you didn't. 942 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:34,679 Speaker 6: Love the truth. 943 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,519 Speaker 5: So it's God basically giving you what you want. You 944 00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,840 want lies, Okay, here go believe all these lives. Sure, 945 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,079 but that's the price that we pay for, uh not 946 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,159 listening to people who were telling the truth and had 947 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,159 a discernment. So, you know, the thing that I keep 948 00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:53,719 seeing is that so many people just have no discernment. 949 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,599 It's very bizarre, you know that, because a lot of 950 00:50:57,599 --> 00:50:59,639 this stuff is pretty easy to Like I said, you know, 951 00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:02,119 when you know how the system works, the world works, 952 00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,400 Like all this stuff is really cheesy, corny, dumb. The 953 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,920 syops that they run are so obvious, they're so fake. 954 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,760 But if you don't love the truth, then you're gonna 955 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920 fall for there. You're you're gonna default to believing that 956 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,920 whatever the system says is true because the system says it. 957 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 6: It's exactly what O'Brien says to Winston. 958 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 5: He says, I want you to believe it because I 959 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,039 say it, not because you think it's true, not because 960 00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:25,800 you think that's what I want to hear, but because 961 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,199 you actually believe that I can tell you what's truth. 962 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,199 Speaker 6: That's how the system operates. 963 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,199 Speaker 5: And so if people believe that, which is obviously garbage, 964 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:40,320 it's obviously ridiculous, right Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Bill Gates. 965 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 6: They don't decide what's true. It's absurd. 966 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 5: But if people want to default to that you will 967 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,920 pay the price, you'll pay the consequences for that. 968 00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 6: And we've seen that in the last three years. 969 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 5: I mean I was been telling people first ever to 970 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,000 stay away from all. 971 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,159 Speaker 6: These stabbies and all this stuff. And you know, I was. 972 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 5: Saying that in two thousand, first in two thousand about 973 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,760 stabbyes of two thousand and five or six, and I 974 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,159 mean I've been made fun of ever since then. So 975 00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:11,679 but people aren't making fun of me as much anymore 976 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,119 because they've seen so many of the. 977 00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 6: Things that I talked about. I I learned about the 978 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,559 push for world government. 979 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,679 Speaker 5: All this stuff in nineteen ninety eight, so you know, 980 00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:20,639 people have seen me as a sort of crazy conspiracy 981 00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,719 theorist person. But even back then, I was just going 982 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,239 by what i'd seen the un talking about, the actual 983 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,960 documents of these groups talking about and then too, you know, 984 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:33,039 for basically over twenty years. That was ninety eight, twenty 985 00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:36,079 five years now of being a conspiracy theorist. 986 00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:37,519 Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of things. 987 00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 5: I've read a lot of books, I've watched a lot 988 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,119 of things, and met a lot of people, met a 989 00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,239 lot of experts, a lot of really high powered people. 990 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,159 Speaker 6: And even though I might I might have had. 991 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 5: Dumb ideas when I was eighteen first learning about this stuff, 992 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,320 and I've gotten some things wrong over the years. On 993 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,360 the whole, I'm about ninety five percent right. 994 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 6: So I'm not just tooting my horn. 995 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 5: I'm just pointing out that, you know, I didn't just 996 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,559 learn about this last year, not saying you did. I'm 997 00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,880 just saying it's something I've been looking at and studying 998 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,239 for twenty five years. And I studied at an academic 999 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,239 level as well, espionage and geopolitics in grad school. 1000 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,079 Speaker 6: So all this stuff is real. It's absolutely real. 1001 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,599 Speaker 5: Now there's a lot of junks that's not real. But yeah, 1002 00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:18,320 you just have to love the truth and you will 1003 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,800 be led down the right path, or if you don't, 1004 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,960 you will you know. 1005 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,119 Speaker 6: There's consequences for that. 1006 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 5: I mean, we were saying for a long time it's 1007 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,280 going to come to a point where there will be 1008 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,079 consequences for mocking the conspiracy theorists, right. My wife and 1009 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:35,519 I were both saying this for a long time because 1010 00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:37,119 we had a lot of people in various churches who 1011 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,960 were really mad at us, adamantly against us because of 1012 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,719 stuff that we've been talking about for a long time, 1013 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:43,960 and then one of the last three years show not 1014 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,159 only were we right about our analysis, everything rolled out 1015 00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:49,440 like we said, and all the stabbes were deadly like 1016 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,800 we said, And many of those people have just doubled down. No, 1017 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,000 you're still bad because you theorize and you talk about 1018 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,039 that you're bad. You're the bad person. No, you're the 1019 00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:05,039 bad person because you love delusion and lies and your own. 1020 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: Stupidity, endurance, stupidity. 1021 00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 6: I'm serious, love wallowing in the ignorance. 1022 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,679 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you love the world. 1023 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,199 Speaker 2: And this is what this is what I say, Jay, 1024 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,679 It's it's a love of the world. 1025 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: It's a love of the system. 1026 00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,159 Speaker 2: It's a love of the fake security that they've given 1027 00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,920 you over all these years, a love of the fake 1028 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,320 dream that they've painted for you that has nothing to 1029 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,960 do with success. I heard a john a talk by 1030 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,320 John Lennox some time ago on this topic about, you know, 1031 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,639 the way that the world has painted success for us 1032 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,400 is just a flat out lie, you know. And the 1033 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,159 things I've read some stats this morning published by Wall 1034 00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:50,280 Street Journal about how the less and less Americans are, 1035 00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,239 and of course the stats could be fudged, but it's 1036 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,480 I think it is indicative of the state of the world. 1037 00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: Less and less. 1038 00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:59,119 Speaker 2: Americans think that having children is important, but in fact, 1039 00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,639 only thirty percent of respondents thought it was, whereas the 1040 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,079 rise of people that thought having money was important was 1041 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,119 getting higher every single year. And it's you know, what 1042 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,360 are you going to do with your money when you're 1043 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:14,639 when you're eighty years old and you have no one 1044 00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:16,519 around you and you're lonely and you. 1045 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 1: Haven't you know, I mean, it's just you know. 1046 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 6: And the money isn't really either. The money is yeah, 1047 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,960 fake money, so correct. 1048 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 2: Correct, And I really think it is a life where 1049 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,960 your treasure is where your heart is, and you know, 1050 00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:36,960 not saying money doesn't matter. Of course you have it. 1051 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,519 It's great if you can earn heaps of it, no worries, 1052 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,400 be generous, do whatever you want with it. 1053 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: My point is that. 1054 00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: It's the love of money, the love of the world system, 1055 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,719 the love of it, the fake security that they've painted 1056 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,159 for you, which by the way, is on the. 1057 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,039 Speaker 1: Verge of collapsing everywhere around you. It really is a 1058 00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:56,639 great opportunity to push us further to our faith. 1059 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,599 Speaker 2: And this is the way that I see it, Jay, 1060 00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,880 this is why I'm not depressed and will never be 1061 00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:05,480 depressed because we have something that's that's so much more 1062 00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:07,119 secure than what this world has to offer. 1063 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it all goes back to the garden, right, 1064 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,119 because you know, what Satan offers is a false, mimic 1065 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,639 copy version of what God offers. And God offers us 1066 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,960 resurrection and divine life. Satan offers you a fake resurrection, 1067 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:29,039 fake immortality, fake divinity through all of these deceptive means 1068 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,159 like oh, you're going to be downloaded into computer, you're 1069 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,000 gonna live forever. Oh but none of that's true obviously. 1070 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:39,639 So it's all lies and deception. And there's just basically 1071 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,039 basically layers to the lies and deception. So there's like 1072 00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,960 a government layer of deception, and there's you know, a 1073 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,679 spiritual layer of deception. So I think one thing people 1074 00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,559 could do, which they don't actually do very much, Which 1075 00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:55,840 something I did a few years ago and got really 1076 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,039 heavily into that really helped me. 1077 00:56:58,039 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 6: Out, was study. 1078 00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 5: Study the history of Watch a lot of documentaries on conmen, 1079 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,880 Watch how people are deceived in different cons and you'll 1080 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,559 notice the patterns that different con men, famous conmen, famous 1081 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,559 you know con operations have done. Oh well, it just 1082 00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:21,239 happens to be exactly the same methodology of the big 1083 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800 people on the big level, right, And you'll notice, like 1084 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,679 Klaus and Davos, they're not doing anything different than what 1085 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,719 small time conmen do. 1086 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,719 Speaker 6: It's just on a bigger scale. So when we understand. 1087 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,519 Speaker 5: Deception and the principles and practice of deception, we're a 1088 00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:35,880 lot more I think, fitted to not be duped by 1089 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,320 these things. 1090 00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:38,679 Speaker 2: I agree with you, And the cave really is to 1091 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,440 love the truth. The cave really is to hate deception. 1092 00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:44,719 Love the truth, love what's good, hate what's bad. It's 1093 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,559 it's really a simple thing. And you know, if you're 1094 00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:51,360 offended by something that you think is good but actually 1095 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,039 isn't inspect within yourself while you're offended, first and foremost. 1096 00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:57,679 You know, all these people getting offended at things that 1097 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000 violate their beliefs. You know, you come at about Christianity. 1098 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,679 I'm not going to get offended at all because I'm 1099 00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:06,559 so secure in that truth. And so you know, for 1100 00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:09,119 the people that immediately jump and get offended when there 1101 00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,599 when their worldview is threatened, maybe your worldview isn't so 1102 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:16,840 so secure then if you're if you're so easily offended. 1103 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,599 Speaker 6: And good point, yeah, yeah, And. 1104 00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: So I think I think that I've always said that 1105 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,199 the key is to be a lover of the truth. 1106 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,559 Speaker 1: Jay, you definitely are that. 1107 00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:29,559 Speaker 2: Let people know where they can follow your work, and 1108 00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,199 I mean it, Guys check out his stuff because his 1109 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,199 analysis on Hollywood is fantastic, but his stuff on philosophy, 1110 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,679 and you know, there's there's so much work out there 1111 00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:39,199 that Jay does. 1112 00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:41,159 Speaker 1: It's very varied and. 1113 00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 2: Truly I think, you know, beneficial for our day and age. 1114 00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1115 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, we just saw a twelve course history of Western 1116 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,079 philosophy course that's so available on my website or over 1117 00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:59,239 at Autonomy University with Richard Grove. We do live events 1118 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,480 now across the so we'll be doing some more of those. 1119 00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,039 We have a live event I think in Hollywood we're 1120 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:08,840 going to do in June. We have a shop where 1121 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,360 you can get my books. Of course there's obviously esoteric 1122 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,400 Hollywood that I have other books as well. My wife 1123 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,880 has books. This is if you want my all my geopolitical, 1124 00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,719 theology and philosophy stuff. It's all on this big fat 1125 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,719 red book. What else do we have? I noticed they 1126 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,480 just put the TV show that I did a few 1127 00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,719 years ago on YouTube, although it's not actually the whole 1128 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,840 TV show. You just have to go over never mind. 1129 00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 6: On that, but you can find my TV show that 1130 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:34,960 we did. 1131 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 5: It's called Hollywood Decoded. It's a really good show. I'm 1132 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,840 still proud of it. That was like twenty seventeen or 1133 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,119 eighteen full season of a show we did. We haven't 1134 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,039 done any debates in a while, but I've been focusing 1135 00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:51,880 on movie breakdowns and geopolitical book breakdowns, so we've been 1136 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,760 really focusing on breaking down the writings of the elite. 1137 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,840 And lately I've been covering Operation Gladio and organized crime 1138 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,000 in the Vatican, so I'm looking forward to kind of 1139 01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:03,440 lecturing on those things. But yeah, all of that stuff 1140 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,280 is at jaysnelsons dot com. All that stuff is on 1141 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,880 my ROCKCN channel Ja Dyer, and if you look for 1142 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,519 me on Twitter or Instagram or anything else, you'll find 1143 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:11,559 under my name Jay Dyer. 1144 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:13,599 Speaker 1: Well, I've just brought up your website. 1145 01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: I've given a lot of credit to your work, but 1146 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,440 also your wife's work. She's such an amazing, beautiful, like 1147 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,480 just classically beautiful woman. 1148 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,159 Speaker 1: You know, I believe that you. 1149 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 6: Know you want to chat with you too, by the way, 1150 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:28,559 Oh good. 1151 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Yes, anytime, anytime. 1152 01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 2: I think that we need more women who just are 1153 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,199 valued for their intelligence and true beauty rather than you know, 1154 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,320 the way that women. 1155 01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Are portrayed in society today. 1156 01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 2: I really think she's a great example of that, so 1157 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,639 I'd love to chat with her. But Jay, really love 1158 01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:49,440 your work. 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