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Speaker 2: Is it Presley? Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Not if he was the last diss jockey on Earth.

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Speaker 2: Honey Saw, you're for are yah. I've come here to

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break your monotony. Let me have my peace because I'm

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shooting with this one. Folks, I don't care man, the unscripted,

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uncensored loose cannon of common Town.

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Speaker 1: Did you say that? Why what you come out with?

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Stink like that? Poop poop out? See son, Old legends

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never die, They just lose weight. It's like a legend

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and an outawork bumber with a lot of light.

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Speaker 2: Lenny.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I've got a midget friend in albino friends and

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another friend who thinks Lord of the Rings is real.

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Together we call ourselves the Unforgottable.

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Speaker 2: This ton is here, Let the fun be here.

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Speaker 1: You got yours?

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Speaker 2: Hello Las Vegas, Hello World, Hello, my loyal minions in

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He's good to see you. It is always good to

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be seen. I am is he Presley? And this is

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another different podcast. I'm the host of the program, Welcome back.

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It's good to see it. It's been about a month.

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Right after we got back from the on the Blue Cruise,

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I had Chris Hockey from the KFA and Howard Trip

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Morning Show on he was a talented good friend from

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way back home in Minneapolis, and that was fun. But

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we've been on a little break trying to get shit

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in order, trying to get shit rolling here in beautiful

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Las Vegas, Nevada. As I always do. It is good

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to see you, and it's always good to be seeing.

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Make sure you share the show with your friends, tell

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everybody about it. Even if I am gone for a

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little bit, then all of a sudden, boom, I triumphantly return.

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Well here I am. We ain't going in where. We

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got some shows lined up. Coming up next week will

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be Ted Russell Camp. Of course you know him as

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the bass player in The Smoking Kills and he is

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also the bass player for Shooter Jennings and has been

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for many, many years. But Ted has a brand new

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album out, yes he does, and it is called California.

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I'm in a band with the guy. So he will

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be on the show talking about his brand new album

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and all that other good stuff and getting Ted's story.

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He's a very interesting cats. He's the I like to

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call him my own preveyor of positivity. He always puts

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a smile on your face. I love Ted. You guys

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are gonna love Ted two. And then coming up the

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following week, my good friend Keith Roth from Serious Exam,

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Hair Nation and Ozzie's Boneyard and the band The Dictators,

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and he's got so many great so much great stuff

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hosting as Brent Awrence from Flip is coming on the

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show along with the guy that wrote the Flip book,

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which is called thanks for Having Us and his name

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is where is his name? Why is this? Why am

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I drawing a blank on this? Oh? John mccolskey, And

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so they will be on and uh well, Keith is

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a Flip fan of about a year. I introduced him

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to my second favorite band of all time, Flip, and

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he's gonna co host show. We're going to talk about

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he Let me show you the book right here. This

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is the book, so you've got you got a week

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to order it. Thanks for having Us Flip, And it's

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basically the story of John's story about Flip as far

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as I could tell. Oh shit, I forgot to do

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this at the top of the show in the words

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of my close personal friends no Kel, Steve Allston, brack

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One for the working man chairs. But also before we

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the on the Blue Cruise. But we'll get to that

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one second. Well, Turbine from Active Soul talking about their

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brand new record. But end of April got the news

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friend of ours from back home, Leanna lang Davis, she

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left us unexpectedly, So cheers kid, rest well and just

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a quick reminder, if you can tell that somebody is

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reaching out for help, their signs and pay attention. That's

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all I'm gonna say about that. So that is what's

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going on here. You late the show, share the show,

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tell your friends, and if you really like the show,

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feel free feel free to hit up that cash app

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at real is present. That's dollar signed Ezzy Presley then

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well Realizzy Presley. PayPal Isypresiley at yahoo dot com. I

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take all that shit. Hey, I'm here for you. I'm

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here to entertain you. If you like what I do,

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feel free to drive in because I don't know, maybe

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I'll do Patreon should I do Patreon. Should I do

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a special Patreon show? Would you guys sign up for that?

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delusions of grandeur, I guess. But the brand new Collective

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about eight tracks and I didn't even realize they put

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the end of the month in Dallas on May thirtieth,

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going out with Hoodie and the Blowfish and Edwin McCain

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until September twenty eighth, And of course I realized during

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the interview that I had just missed them in Vegas.

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of shows that are happening this Thursday. If you were

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and nine thirty, so if you're in town, check that out,

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thirtieth again, two shows Adam Corolla, Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club

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right here in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada. And Saturday the

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twenty fifth, Ladies and gentlemen, let me take these stupid

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glasses off. Saturday the twenty fifth. That's right, Act a

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tribute to Ace Frayley. We are returning to Counts Vamped.

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seven from Cheap Trick from Uncle Ted, from Peter Frampton

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Todd Howorth. That is that Count's vamped. We are opening up.

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City's exclusive ac DC tribute. They are badass and their

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guitar player, Keith Robert war is a member of the

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ac family and will be playing with us as well.

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He's doing double duty that night. He is great, he

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is fun. We got my Campion returning on bass, who

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the family on the drums, Troy Patrick Farrell. As I

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have a Rolodex and uh proud to have all these

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guys in the rolodexs who's available. We got a gig boom,

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we make it happen, that's right. And of course you

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can see behind me right dover. Oh there she is.

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for Rockey. Yeah, he was here for Chris Hockey. She

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without further ado, please welcome, please enjoy, I should say,

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because this isn't live, and it's it's so weird not

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doing it live. But whatever, we're doing it Roland. The

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Please Welcome to another podcast from Collective Soul. The bass

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player and a background vocalist, mister Will All right, are

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you a Kiss fan at all?

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whole thing, and I like, I like a few of

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the songs I was. I was into like more artsy

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learned my first guitar chords and I felt like after

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I mean Kiss, and I'm just gonna

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start it right there. Why not? Kiss is like that

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they wanted to be heavy metal beatles. That's even though

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the heavy metal wasn't a term at that at that time,

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but that's how Gene always described it. And you can

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to any of the Georgia musicians because they they had

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about kiss, It's just it just goes. The brand new

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in this day and age. It's a little odd because

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you know, we some of our heroes all did double records.

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certainly comes to mind, but all things must pass. The

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wide album. What was the LEDs up in physical graffiti?

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really cool to be able to have a double album.

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shortage of songs and no shortage of creative juices. Man,

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we we were just going at it. And yeah, no

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matter what everybody tells us about what's smart or not smart,

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we still do we want to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, and I tell you what, And you know,

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I'm not gonna sit here a lion say. I'm a

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huge collective soul guy, right, I know everything. I mean,

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I was like everybody in nineteen ninety five. We played

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but listening to the record, it sounds like collective soul,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, uh yeah, there's you know, there's there's you

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I think that's one of our strengths. But we just

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create from from feel and uh, you know, if it

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feels good to us and we get those moments where

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it you know, you know since since chills up your spot,

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then we know that we're doing something right. We just

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we just have a little we have a thing. Man

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Ed's vocal stands out. Yeah, and yeah, like I said, Man,

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thirty years later, we're still enjoying creating, we're still enjoying

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playing live.

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Speaker 2: Well. And when you guys started, it was what ninety

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two when you joined the band? Correct, Yeah, when started.

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a recital, so I can't commit one hundred percent. But

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it turned out to be a good move for me

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because me, me, Ed and Dean still uh live on

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a bus together and still create music together.

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Speaker 2: So well. In the ninety three that was still a

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weird time in rock and roll because it was host

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the Great Wall in Nirvana, so you it was like

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it was the grunge thing, but it was just kind

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of wide open. You didn't know what was gonna stick

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and what was going to hit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, man, we just it just happened

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for us, and we created, you know, that first record.

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demo that Ed was doing, so uh. It was a

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collection of songs written by Ed, and we thought, you know,

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we kind of thought that the rock song off off

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that record would be the one that we would push

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as the as the single song called good Night and

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good Guy. But fate, fate had other ideas, and Steve

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Robertson album eighty eight was the first college station to

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play Shine and uh requests going off the you know,

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phone phone ringing off the hook and and requests happening

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left and right. And then Steve Robertson at w j

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r R in Orlando was the first one to put

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us on a kind of you know, a shootout type

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show Sunday nights where he could go off script, off

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of the corporate playlist and he could play whatever he wanted.

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Uh And sure enough, man, he put us on that

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Sunday night show with Sean and Uh, we were we were,

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we were winning battles against the Pearl Jams and the

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and the other ones. And so that was really the

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spark that that commercial station was really the spark that started,

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uh started that move movement there.

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Speaker 2: Well. And the thing that I that I kind of

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dig about your sound is that it didn't sound like

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that the Great Wall of Nirvana and and all that

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other the other quote unquote grunched off. It's still it was.

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I mean, it was all rock, but it still had

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a different vibe to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we never we've never we've never went in

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there into the in the creation process and said let's

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let's follow this or let's try to be like this.

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And even if we even if we did, I think

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we would still just revert to whatever feels natural to

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us and whatever, you know, whatever we feel comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that you said you're still on

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the bus. A lot of people aren't doing that anymore.

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You know a lot you know, a lot of the

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bands that know the quote, un the legacy bands, you know,

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they're just doing fly dates and you know, just doing weekends.

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You guys are out there and you leave on the thirtieth.

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You go out with Hoody and Uh and Edwin McCain

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and it's a big stack tour for the summer.

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Speaker 1: It is kind of like, I mean, wow, I mean,

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let's think about this pody collective, Soul, Edwin McCain, all

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three groups from the South, all three signed to Atlantic

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Records in Manhattan, and all three first released our first

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record in nineteen ninety four. It's it's a little bit

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of a and we've known each other now, we've all

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known each other and we're all good friends for thirty years.

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So it's a it's gonna be a great tour. It's

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going to be a nice little trip around the around

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the state. One more time with our friends. Man, we're

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looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: And Uh, I mean, do you think about the amount

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of records that were sold between the three of you,

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especially Hoodie, So I think they're they're diamond, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That first record Crack to Review, Yeah, I mean

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it sold ten million in its day. So yeah, well

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I don't know who knows where that's at now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's so you you knew those guys

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back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Of course we were signed the same label.

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Speaker 2: Well I know, but but like before you guys got signed.

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Speaker 1: No, we didn't know. No, we didn't know them before

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we got signed. Were they would have been in Carolina?

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They were more on the frast OKAYEP and we were

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in Atlanta. We were playing live shows, but we were

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we were really doing as much in the studio as

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we were live. Really, you know, my father's studio was there,

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so we were. We were as much of a studio

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band when we were young as we were going out

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playing trying to trying to come up with a live scene.

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We were we were we were equally trying to trying

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to stay in the studio and play this. We basically

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just played around Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: So you and you mentioned your dand studio which you

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own now reel the real studios. Realdashlife dot net is

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the website. Make sure you guys check that out. But

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that must have been a nice luxury of having a

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father who owned a studio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a it was a DA studio,

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but it was on the level I mean he got

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that tried it board straight from Oxford, England in nineteen

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eighty five, and so it was on the level. It

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was pro, but it was it was DLI but Man

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certainly Man collective Soul there. You know, that's where we

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cut our teeth. Edw's head engineer there. That's where I

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learned all the studio acumen and and we came out

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of the box wanting to create songs and create music

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and serve the songs as opposed to just I think.

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I think some bands are just playing live and trying

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to create music as good as they can, and then

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they go to the studio and they're they're not maybe

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comfortable in the studio. And we we obviously were birthed

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in the studios. We've always been comfortable there.

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Speaker 2: Are as far as the studio goes. I mean, are

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you guys, how how do you feel about pro tools

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and making stuff too perfect that you can't There's a

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lot of bands, you know, they go in the studio

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and they just you know, nail something, you know, with

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a lot of help, and they go live they can't

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reproduce it. How are you guys about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, it's it's it's just

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recording software, you know, the the it still has to

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be natural, it still has to come from this place

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of of of organic feel, and vibe pro tools won't

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won't get that for you. You have to be a band.

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And and yeah, I mean we've just always looked at

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anything that you can use in the studio as a tool,

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uh right, that we need to use as a creative tool.

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You can't think about it like I almost put it

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in there. It's gonna fix everything. That's that that's not

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that's not the way you do it.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, And so I'm assuming you guys are one,

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there's no tracks going on when.

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Speaker 1: We play live. Yeah, yeah, Johnny, the way we came

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up with that so we could get some some of

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the sounds and some of the things that are on

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the record that we don't do live the way. We

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kind of found a hybrid answer for that. And me

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and me and Johnny, me and Ryan Hoyle kind of

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started that doing that. But me and Johnny really Johnny

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rab Our, current drummer, really honed in what the system is.

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We just we actually have samples of the stuff, but

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he's triggering them live, so we are not chained to

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a track. There is no pro tool system backstage for

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us right where so many bullets are hitting play and

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playing along with it. No man, So if something happens

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to his little trigger pad, we still don't care. Man,

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we go. We're a rock band.

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Speaker 2: Dude. That's great to hear. I mean because, like you said,

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a lot of bands are doing it. It's like all

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the background vocals are tracked and it's like some of

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the lead fuck I saw a wasp you could tell

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he was singing to a track. Say come on, man,

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you know fucking do this, And it's great to hear

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that somebody's still out they're doing it real.

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Speaker 1: That just wouldn't be right for us. And I don't

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think you. I don't I think you. We've always said

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thinking pride in being a great live man. But I

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don't think people are asking you to sound like the

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record either. I think they want you to. I think

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they want you to get close to what they love.

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You know, do your thing. But for us to think

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we want to play along to some tracks and make it,

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try to make it sound almost exactly like a record,

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I think that's just missing the point to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that takes away from the live experience.

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Rock and roll is not supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, you know, it's like perfectly imperfect exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, fuck it like one of my favorite shows

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of all time. I mean I wasn't at it, but

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I saw it on the MTV. You know, GNR Live

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at the Ritz. They're fucked up, they're out of tune.

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Speaker 1: But it was magic magic. You know, it can be magic. Absolutely,

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that's the only way to get magic. It's not magic

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when you're playing along to something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just no exactly. Do you speaking of

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the MTV, I mean everybody talks about the first time

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they heard themselves on the radio. Do you remember where

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you were the first time you saw yourself on MTV?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I don't, now that you mention it, I remember,

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I mean, Sean was on the buzz Band and it

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was on MTV all the time. I don't remember I

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was the first time I saw that video. Huh. I

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remember where I was the first time I heard the

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song on commercial radio. We were all in a van

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together heading down to Florida to play a show because

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that commercial station. Like I said, Jr. R. Had added

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it on rotation and we heard it, we heard it

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on commercial radio. We're like, whoa, all right, all right,

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this is cool, this is cool.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys ever, I mean, look the Here to Eternity,

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which comes out this Friday on the seventeenth, that's your

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twelfth record. Did you guys ever take a break? Did

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you guys ever say the fuck it, we're done and

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then then come back to Because like I said, I

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don't know a lot about the history of the band.

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Did you guys ever break up and then come back together?

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Have you guys been going the whole time?

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Speaker 1: Those certainly some uh those certainly like a round up.

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Right before the Youth Record, there was a few years

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there that were a little bit, a little bit of

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shaky ground. That's you know, that's when we had some

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members of the band uh uh, not being our band anymore.

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Let's just say that, Oh yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Rock and roll it happens.

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Speaker 1: And then there was there was and there was an

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era where we all were working on some side projects.

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But after that, after the Youth Record, it's pretty much

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been like, yeah, okay, we're gonna we're gonna keep doing this.

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There's no reason not to do it. It still feels

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completely natural to us. I mean, you know you mentioned

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here to eternity. Uh, creating and coming up with these

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songs is still as fresh and still as inspirational, and

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it's still something we crave and thrive on still today.

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So it's and we have no problem finding the songs

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and the inspiration to do it. So man, we're not

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We're not going. It's just part of us. Man. It's

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it's we're fifty percent live or fifty percent in the studio.

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And I don't think that'll ever change.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's great to hear and like, you know, like

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I like I said before, how it sounds like a

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collective soul record. A lot of bands like you know,

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around two thousand, you know, especially after that great wall

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in Von hit, they tried to change.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like what's what's relevant now? And it sounds

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like you guys just stuck with what you guys do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we just so like I said, we

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I don't know if it was confidence or what, but

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we just always thought, if you do what's natural and

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it feels good. We never chased any sound. We just

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never did. We never even talked about it. We just

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did our own thing.

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Speaker 2: How did how did the success affect you guys?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You get to afford a better a

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nice lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's just I think it just made us want

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to do. You know, all we especially in the early days,

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all we talked about was what's next. We never we

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never looked looked back and said, wow, we did it.

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We never ever did that, and still this day, we

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just always talked about what's next.

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Speaker 2: That, dude, that's great. And because the reason I asked

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that is because you know how sometimes like you know,

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you're a band, you're brothers, and all of a sudden

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00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,200
success happens and that's when the cracks start, and that's

473
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,880
when the egos happen, and YadA, YadA, yadas. You guys

474
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,519
didn't have to deal with that at all.

475
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I tell this a lot, man.

476
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:15,160
I think the fact that we literally to say it's

477
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960
a small town story is an understatement. I mean, we,

478
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,440
me and the Rolling Brothers, we don't have a memory

479
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,680
without knowing each other each other our whole live. So

480
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,599
I think that is a different perspective than guys who

481
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,920
came together in their adult life and created a band.

482
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,519
And you know what I mean, I think it's different

483
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,279
because our parents knew each other, our parents supported us.

484
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,319
It was you know, it's something that just you know,

485
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,359
we we're family.

486
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: And you you have a solo record that came out

487
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,720
of what twenty eighteen? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sarah Jetty Drivers.

488
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: I say that in Serengetti like SERENGETI Setty.

489
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Sorry. I closed down The Tropicanic closed last night for

490
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,839
good and I was there when it closed down and

491
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,400
I stumbled home. So I'm just are you in Vegas?

492
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,559
I'm in Vegas, baby right on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk

493
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:10,960
about your solo record a little bit.

494
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I started off on piano and

495
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:17,839
drums and learned a guitar around thirteen. But man, when

496
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,759
I sit behind the piano this there's a funky, poppy

497
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,960
side of me that comes out, and you know, you

498
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,160
sit there and you create these songs, and sometimes you

499
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,160
wonder if people want to hear them. But I'm proud

500
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,440
of that record. I'm working on. I'm working on collecting

501
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,079
getting together the next list of songs for the record,

502
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,839
for a new record. So yeah, I love getting in

503
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:39,359
there and doing something different.

504
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Too, do you So do you do everything yourself?

505
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: No? I love getting in other musicians to help out

506
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,160
other creators, other artists. But yeah, on that record, I

507
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,279
play all kind of instruments.

508
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Sure, dude, That's like one of my gods is Richie Cottson,

509
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,880
and he that's what he does. He records everything himself

510
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,799
and he goes on and plays as a you know,

511
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,599
because obviously you can't do it yourself live unless you're

512
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,079
using tracks and cots and is non attracts guy, I

513
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,200
can tell you that much. When you guys write, are

514
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,039
you guys getting the studio and jam and see what happens?

515
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,559
Or is it more like people bring shit in?

516
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean in thirty years, we've we've kind of

517
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200
done it a number of different ways. But man, it

518
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:28,759
starts with Ed uh D's a super prolific writer and

519
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,599
he's gotten more focused with his ideas over the years too,

520
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:38,160
So he comes in with some pretty structured songs now

521
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
and then we kind of we put a twist on

522
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,200
it and make it a make a collective soul song.

523
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,039
In the day, we used to do a lot more

524
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,400
jam let's stumble upon something, but we still will do

525
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,720
that and and you know when we create it has

526
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,720
to start. It has to be a band. It has

527
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,519
to it has to have a vibe of a band.

528
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,279
We don't We don't just send in parts and do

529
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,799
this here and fly this here. We have to get

530
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,079
together and make and get that that little energy you

531
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,720
get when you play together and you find that that

532
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:15,799
zone and ride it.

533
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:20,039
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, well I love that because I like, there

534
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:21,680
are a lot of bands now it's like you we

535
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,119
put together a record, we just sent in the parts.

536
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:28,160
It's like that, where's the magic? You know? I don't

537
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,160
think you can really get the magic without being in

538
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,039
the same room together.

539
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,519
Speaker 1: I think you can create some good music. Of course,

540
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,000
you can create some hints that way too that people love.

541
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,240
But in general, if you're gonna try to be a band,

542
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,599
you you need to get that. You need to get

543
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,720
that chemistry and that energy working in the same room

544
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,440
and find it. There's it's more than just putting your

545
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,000
finger on a threat and hitting it in time. It's

546
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:54,799
more than that. And and and if you work it

547
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:57,799
out and you find those those magic moments you then

548
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,279
you can elevate the song and you serve of the

549
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,759
song and hopefully the song becomes bigger than than any

550
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:05,480
of the individual parts.

551
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: And you guys have a show in San Antonio this

552
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,279
upcoming Monday. That'll be the twentieth, and then the tour

553
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,640
starts on the thirtieth in Dallas. Collective Soul, Edwin McCain

554
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
and of course Hoody and the Blowfish. Do you have

555
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,519
another interview coming up? You're done?

556
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:26,279
Speaker 1: You're my last? God today, man, all right, well.

557
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: I hope it ended all right. I'm really bummed though,

558
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400
because you guys are not coming to Vegas.

559
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,359
Speaker 1: How are we not coming to Vegas? What's up? Man?

560
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking at the list and it's like, Okay, California,

561
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:42,119
of course, Utah, Arizona, California.

562
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: We were just at the Palms, man, you missed us.

563
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,119
We were there in January.

564
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's right. And of course that

565
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:54,319
was before I knew this was happening. And I but

566
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,519
now next time you're back, you're goddamn right, I'm gonna

567
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:56,799
be there.

568
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,799
Speaker 1: We love that room. And I hear rumor of us

569
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:01,599
doing two nights in a row there at that room

570
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:05,440
at the Palms, either late this year or early next year.

571
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,759
So come see us.

572
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,319
Speaker 2: Man, I will absolutely do that. Will Turpin, thank you

573
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:12,920
so much. Collective Soul. Check them out on tour this

574
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,079
summer if they're coming to your area. And of course

575
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:16,960
the album comes out this Friday, is called Here to

576
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,240
Eternity and it's so it is physical and streaming. Is

577
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,359
there Vinyl? Is it just CD?

578
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Of course it's going to be vinal It's a double

579
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,039
record that's gonna.

580
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: And it's not gonna be like fourteen records. You know,

581
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
a lot of they reissue a lot of the old records.

582
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,519
It's like, dude, I don't want four records. I just

583
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,880
want the one record it's supposed to be.

584
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, two records, five on each side, every every time.

585
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:49,839
Speaker 2: So perfect. Perfect. You guys doing a cassette too.

586
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:52,319
Speaker 1: Eight tracks as well.

587
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,039
Speaker 2: Cassettes are coming back. I've boughten.

588
00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,599
Speaker 1: I understand where you're going with this. I know what

589
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,079
you mean. Uh, Vinyl has a reason to come back.

590
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680
I'm not sure about this whole cassette thing, but whatever, man,

591
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,359
we'll go with it.

592
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this before we go. Somebody

593
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680
that's on the recording side of it. Back in the day,

594
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,319
everything was mixed for Vinyl, and that's why it always

595
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,119
sounded so much better. How different is that today? I

596
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:26,319
ate be? I got the new Black Crows record on CD,

597
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,799
and then I traded in a bunch of my old

598
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,640
CDs and that I didn't need anymore, and I got

599
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,559
the vinyl and I ate beat it and it sounded

600
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:39,039
pretty much the same. How does How different is it that? Now?

601
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really the mix, but you should.

602
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,920
You should definitely master the mix differently for vinyl, okay,

603
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:50,920
and uh, and we do that so our our vinyl

604
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,559
is is mastered a little differently to seek and just

605
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,039
all the frequencies are are popping properly, all right.

606
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: And if people want pre order the record.

607
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 1: Or they can just go on my website any of

608
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,880
our socials and website, you'll be able to.

609
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: Find it, man, all right, collectivesoul dot com and of

610
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,639
course check out real dash Light dot net. Is the studios.

611
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,639
I googled the studio and I found one in Australia

612
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,199
that has real to Real Studios dot com.

613
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, real to Real studios usually pops up if you

614
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,000
just google it. But it's it's the one in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah,

615
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,000
check it out, man, it's a it's my legacy. It's

616
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,280
where Collective Soul came from, and I've poured a lot

617
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,840
of energy in there, and I'm I'm producing a lot

618
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,320
of people right now out of the studio.

619
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: So that's great, that's great. When did when did you

620
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,239
take it over?

621
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,079
Speaker 1: I took it over officially about a year ago. My

622
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,079
father passed away about four years ago. I walked in

623
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,079
that place and I was like, there's just no way

624
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,880
I'm letting it go. Man. It's it's designed to be

625
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,480
a studio from the ground up, and there was nothing

626
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,239
in me that that thought I should let it go.

627
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,079
And so my my dad had a partner, and then

628
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:00,880
as oflast year, I'm official.

629
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: Dude, that's great to hear. Man, keep that legacy alive.

630
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,840
Will Turpin everybody, all right, there you go, kids. Fun

631
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:12,039
little twenty minute or so half an hour or so

632
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,920
interview with Will Turpin from Collective Soul. Check out The

633
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brand new album comes out this Friday, the seventeenth of May,

634
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and the tour starts on the thirtieth. And please also

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make sure you check out Better beeteramplication dot com. Baby,

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Speaker 2: You see all the links Monsters of Rock Cruise if

645
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you are new If you're a newbie to the Monsters

646
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which is tomorrow. Tomorrow. He is a thirteenth which means

649
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it's the fourteenth by the time this gets up, So

650
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I'll leave tomorrow. On the fifteenth, you can actually go

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to Monsters at rockies dot com or from the prod

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656
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657
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and of course the album three Cruises well, and what

658
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else do we got? Of course we have next weekend

659
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the twenty fifth Act tribute to discree my bab we

660
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redeep that mamp my favorite rocket roll bar, opening up for.

661
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Speaker 3: LDBC sin Sidney's Biggest Fattest ECDC.

662
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Speaker 2: Tribute and then uh probably work at co Corolla, not

663
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working for Corolla, but helping out doing the thing I do.

664
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So we'll see you guys next time. And don't forget

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