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Speaker 1: The monsters living on the edge. They creep where the

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fens this fall, where the moonlight paints the wall, hiding.

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Speaker 2: Where the trees grow tall.

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Speaker 1: You're hill and crawl through the trees this time Christmas

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on the morast, Breeze on the y where they on

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the y never muster served for shadows. Plea only bother

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the corn, where the doors they broom, Sweet on the

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leag where the reeds the king. They're watching you as

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you walk away. Run still, where the dark begins, Where

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a Winny's song isn't two.

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Speaker 3: Thick grill on the stillware The.

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Speaker 1: Only they never muster served for shadows.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Monsters, and welcome to this week's episode of

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Monsters on the Edge here on the Untold Radio Network.

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I'm your host Barnaby Jones from Cryptids, Anomalies and the

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Paranormal Society. Lee is in the audience today. Good morning Lee.

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How are you doing? Kim? You are sort of on time,

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but we're also sort of on time today as well

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as things go with live episodes. Hey Octopus, welcome to

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the show as well. And new one here, Candy Wolf,

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Welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us. We

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are live in studio today. So if you guys have

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questions or comments throughout the show, through him in the

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comments section. Put him in all caps so we can

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tell from normal comments and we will get to them

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as soon as we can. We got some awesome events

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that we're gonna be talking about today and some awesome

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events that we my team are going to be at,

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starting with coming up in just a couple weeks here,

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Contact Modalities Expo, May first through the third in Delavan, Wisconsin. Myself,

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my team, and fellow Untold radio host Dean Bertram will

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also be in attendance at this event as well as

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my guest. Next week, Trey Hudson will be joining my show.

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He will also be part of the Contact Modalities Expo.

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Jack Chavez, the host of the Chicago Paranormal Convention, will

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also be at this one talking about I think I

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so there you go. Jaybachochin from Wisconsin will also be

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so familiar faces, some brand new faces all for you,

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and then guys coming up in May, we have Cryptis

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Anomalies and Paranormal Convention Saturday, May ninth in Fond Delac, Wisconsin.

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We have over twenty speakers and workshops for you, including

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forty vendors. We kick it all off the Friday night

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before that with a kid's Bigfoot Expedition Laurence Smith from

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Night Callers Adventures, Chris McCurry and myself from the Caps team. Unfortunately,

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Kelly can out join us. She had some issues and

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had two back out of the convention. But we will

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be going out into the woods and telling your kids

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all about being safe and what to look for, how

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to track, and all things big footy. And then for

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the more adventurous we have Lauren, Chris and myself will

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be joined by Jaba Chochin, Ken Gerhard, Larry Eisler, and

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Istina Bloom and we will be doing a night Bigfoot

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expedition as well. This starts May eighth and the convention

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May ninth, and then we head down to Chicago, Illinois

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for the Chicago Paranormal Convention Saturday June thirteenth in Countryside, Illinois.

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Then we have the Brownsville A Library June seventeenth, the

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Cedarberg Library Wednesday, July twenty second, Potographs, Packerland Paranormal Conference

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act Over twenty eighth, and the Belleville Community Library October thirtieth.

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There you go. So if you want all the information

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on those awesome events, head on over to Wisconsin caps

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dot com, click on the public events tab or all

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of our social media platforms for CAPS and you can

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find more information and details on all those events. But

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now we're going to talk about some even more events

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and some fearsome folklore and cryptids from around the United States.

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So let's get to it, my guest. Cryptid Comforts is

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the art of Lisa Russell, who specializes in designing cryptids

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and folklore themed plushies and pet toys. She also makes

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a variety of other accouterments featuring her original art stickers,

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tote bags, keychains, buttons, et cetera. Over the past four years,

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she has expanded into the role of showrunner as well,

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beginning with Schuwonkapalooza in Pennsylvania, then adding Fearsome Folklore Festival

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in Nashville, Tennessee last year, and now UFO DA in Buckhannon.

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Hopefully I got that right, west Ordin each show, she

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co hosts with another different person, and each brings its

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own unique experience, while all are free, family fun. So

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here to tell you all about all that stuff is

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Lisa Russell.

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Speaker 3: Lisa to me, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: It's going?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: How are you excellent? You have gotten busier and busier

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since I first met you.

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Speaker 3: I know, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier, more

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and more hacktic. And now I'm hosting events and just

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kind of running the cryptied world.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: We are also starting to be a speaker at events

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this year as well, so taking a whole nother turn.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's awesome, that's exciting. Good for you.

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Speaker 3: I'm the cryptid do it all.

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Speaker 2: We are. We are both gluttons for punishment. Where that

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Speaker 3: Seriously?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I can do more. I can do more?

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Speaker 3: Right, Sure, what you got, I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: No problem, add a little more to the pile. But

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absolutely so you. I've known you for quite a few

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years here, Ben Vendor, several events and stuff, and uh

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so let's let's start out with that. So you've started out,

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I gotta. I pulled a picture here, uh from one

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of your events. You have all kinds of little stickers

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and dog toys and plushies and stuff with all kinds

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of folklore and encryptid creatures.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that photo is from one of my smallest events.

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Speaker 2: So oh yes, I know. Uh, so what what got

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you originally interested in all this stuff? And which one

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was your your first little stuffed creation?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I started off I uh back in like

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two thousand and nine ten, I was I started making

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uh monkeys, just kind of randomly woke up one day like, oh,

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anything in my life. Let's do it. And so I

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did and I enjoyed it, kept working on it, kept

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making more, and then my boyfriend got me a sewing

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machine that year for Christmas, so it just kind of

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started sewing self, taught learning what I was doing, started

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making other animals. But at this point I was still

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sticking to animals and I hadn't delved into cryptis yet.

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after school program, or I guess the Summer Discovery program

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and I came up with a class called Unicorns, Dragons

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and bigfoots oh my as the class. And so in

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researching for that, I started, you know, diving more into

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cryptid world and uh, you know, just learning about the

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history of these things and why even though these creatures

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that no one has proven to exist, have such a

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hold like on our knowledge, like we know these things clearly.

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you say bigfoot, even though mos people have never seen one,

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so but we all know. So it was kind of

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interesting doing the research on that, and I started delving

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more into cryptids, which I mean at that point I

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really only knew the basics, you know, Mothman, Lockness, monster,

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cupa cabra. But I started learning and it just became

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an obsession. That was also the first year of the

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organ Bigfoot Festival, so I signed up to be a

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vendor there and started making Bigfoot plushies. So Bigfoot was

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the first one that I did, and then quickly started

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doing NeSSI and Mothman and by twenty seventeen, the cryptids

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had taken over, and that is when I started Cryptic

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Comforts officially, so and that's what I've been doing ever since.

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as my only job. So it's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. It does not surprise me that Bigfoot was

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the first I was thinking. I was thinking, maybe you

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went down a weirder avenue, but no.

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Speaker 3: I always say that Bigfoot is the gateway drug into cryptozoology.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Well I think mine was the troop of Cabra.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, I mean really honestly, which I

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know unicorns aren't really considered cryptids, but that was kind

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of my jumping off point. So I mean, really unicorns

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started at all. It's their fault. I've been a unicorn

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girl forever.

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Speaker 2: That's really interesting, Like I don't think I've ever stopped

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and thought about you know, when you put mythology and

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folklore into the topic of cryptozoology, it makes sense that

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you have unicorns. But a lot of the times unicorns

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are left out of the whole cryptid topic.

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Speaker 3: Right because they're very much just discarded as mythological. But

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unicorn and you learn about the elastmis, theeum, this big giant,

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wooly creature that had a giant horn on its head,

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and the mentions of the unicorn in the Bible and

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like all this stuff, you can really get back into,

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like learning that it is actually kind of a cryptid.

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a game of telephone. So there was a time when

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these big, wooly mammoth rhinoceros creatures roamed with men, and

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so I think that is what the true unicorn is.

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this majestic creature with a single horn on its head,

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then they start to form their own image of what

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art would be more of a goat type animal with

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the horn on its head. And then there was the

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whole barnament Bailey's trying to make actual unicorns by going

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in and deforming their horns inside like surgically, which was crazy. So,

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would say the unicorn is as much encrypted as any

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of the others. It just doesn't get that kind of

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recognition as encryptid because at this point we're just like, yeah,

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that's just mythology.

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Speaker 2: So you say, there doesn't seem to be many recent

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sightings of them either, like people don't know, at least

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get into in that, but like you don't hear sightings

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of unicorns.

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Speaker 3: Now because people have just dismissed them. And also I

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think they're extinct. I mean, if you talk about the

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original what I think a real unicorn actually was, I

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think they're just extinct.

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Speaker 2: Lisas, where are unicorns in the Bible?

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Speaker 3: It was the Saint James version of the Bible, I

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think if I'm remembering correctly. It's been a long time

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since I studied up on this, but I'm pretty sure

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it was the Saint James version of the Bible that

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mentions unicorns like multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, I do know for a fact they are in there.

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I'm not familiar with verses and stuff like that to

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you know, help out it all there. But I have

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looked into that and they are mentioned. But again, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Mentions them like being a strong and powerful creature. So

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also which lends itself to the Elasmas theoryum, which I

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don't think I'm pronouncing that correctly because I've only seen

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that word written, I've never heard it. So if I'm

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saying that wrong, I apologize. If anybody knows how to

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properly say it, I would love to learn. But that

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is how I've always pronounced it, just from having read it.

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Speaker 2: And this is this kind of comes from the same

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area too as dragons. You know, I've talked about dragons

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and dragon mythology and stuff on the show here as well,

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and you know, people say, well, there's there's all these mythology,

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folklore and stuff all over the world of dragons, but

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we don't have them anymore. Well, what happened to every

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Speaker 3: Well, so my theory on dragons is actually dinosaurs fossils.

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finding different dinosaurs in different areas, and so they came

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up with their own mythology of what these things were.

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and that's what this is what we're gonna call it.

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discovered because now we've learned and we know that those

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are actually dinosaurs, so and I mean going back and

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taking a look. And I mean that's why this class

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was so much fun for me to teach, is you know,

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that critical thinking of well, what made this so prominent

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in people's minds that we know exactly what it looks

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like in our mind when it's mentioned and and what

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you know triggered that. And I think nowadays my equation

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of those creatures would be getting into the fearsome creatures

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of the lumber woods, which are now that line is

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being blurred with cryptids too, when we know those are

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folklore creatures. They're not actual cryptids. They're from old school

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lumberjack folklore. But because we talk about it enough, we

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kind of make it real.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and it goes like, you know, a lot

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of these stories, the folklore and going back to the

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old time tales and stuff. Like I said, with the dragons,

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every single story that involved the dragon involved a night

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or somebody going out and slaying it. So here you

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have this whole you know, species that existed or whatever,

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what have you, and every time that one was mentioned,

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they'd go out and kill it. You know, all these

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you know, like even Little Red Riding Hood and the

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Big Bad Wolf was based on these giant wolves that

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people were seeing or the were wolves that people Yeah,

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and what happens. The lumberjack comes out and he kills

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the wolf. You know, all these stories of weird creatures

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and stuff throughout history, they go out and kill them.

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at our stories, look at the We.

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Speaker 3: Killed them all exactly because we're violent people who can't

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just leave these poor creatures to.

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Speaker 2: Be on their own. Yep, yep. Well, I mean even

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like your your bigfoot folklore and some of your other

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weird creatures and stuff. Every time you read about like

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the wild Man in the Woods or something, the newspaper articles,

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there's there's the first article that says, oh, this thing

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was sighted and then like a week later, oh, a

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hunting party went out to shoot me creature.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Enfield horror. That was the first thing

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they did. One person season and they're like pitchfork, so

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let's go down and get it. It's like, come on,

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and it's just a little guy. Leave me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't hurting anybody.

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Speaker 3: He just wanted to well scratched the kid, but it

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was an accident. He just wanted to play. He was

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just hung gray.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just.

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Speaker 3: Asking the kid if he would share a snack. So misunderstood.

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Speaker 2: Poor cryptids exactly exactly. And these these cosplaying frogs you

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know that are playing Harry Potter out there, you know,

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and people chasing them around. So many stories. But before

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we get into all those, because we're gonna we're gonna

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talk more about some of the more weird creatures and stuff.

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Let's let's start out with your newest event, the first

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one coming up here, and that would be UFO Day.

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Speaker 3: This is yes, Uh, this one is brand new first year.

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So the town of Buckhannon used to do a kind

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of UFO Day, which is kind of the celebration of

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Great Barker. He is from that area and so or

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from Buckhannon. He worked at the theater right there, and

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he's written all kinds of books on aliens and Mothman

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and things like that, so, uh, great crypto zoologists. He

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was celebrated, and then the town kind of stopped doing it,

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but it was never like a vendor event back when

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they were doing it. And I was approached by Christy

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and Greg about co hosting because I have experienced doing

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that and they wanted to bring this event back to

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the area and asked if I would be interested in

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jumping in on it and helping them with that, and

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that's how I got into co hosting this event. So

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this is going to be a smaller event. We're only

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gonna have like twenty to thirty vendors, but the whole town,

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like there's different businesses around town that are taking part

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in it as well, which is great. There's going to

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be a UFO themed virtual reality escape room, There's going

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to be live music, creep at reels coming into play

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at one of the bars there, and a couple other

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bands I think are going to join. There's going to

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be a costume contest at Pretty pe and Ees down

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the road, and I think we're going to do like

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a costume parade from the vendor Square down the block,

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and then there's a couple of other restaurants doing drink

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and food specials. Then there's going to be an adult

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coloring contest at the Hemp Shop, which I think is fun,

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and they're going to have like edibles that are UFO themed,

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and so lots of different businesses have jumped on. We've

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got both hotels there downtown giving discounts for the night,

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and yeah, so all the businesses kind of were ready

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to jump in and help out and make it a

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big part. So we'll have the vendors out in one

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parking lot area and then kind of different stuff going

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on in different businesses around town. So this is a

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different approach to an event that I've done before, but

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I'm really excited to see like the community kind of

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coming together for this. It's going to be a lot

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of fun, I think.

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Speaker 2: Very cool. And you said that was kind of like

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a tribute to Gray Barker. So was there any was

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there any a lot of UFO sightings in the area,

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or is it just kind of based on him?

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Speaker 3: I think I honestly don't know. That's the best answer

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I've got is I don't know about sightings in that

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particular area. But I know he's studied other sightings and

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wrote books and he definitely was very involved in the

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mothman stuff and all that. So he's a very well

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known ufologist in the in the area. That was his

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whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's interesting, that's really cool. I'd like that,

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you know, they they bring in a lot of the

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history of like the local people as well, not just

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the riptids, but you have you're you're celebrating the researchers

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and the people that have you know, done the work

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and that that's that's really interesting. There's not so many

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UH festivals that do that, I think. I think a

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lot of them, like are just focused on the creature or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is definitely more of a celebration of

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his legacy. And although you know he can't be there

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to stand up and speak, well, we're doing instead of

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traditional speakers. This is gonna be fun. This was Christie's

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ideas to do a kind of soapbox sermons, so anyone

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can sign up and just stand up on the soapbox

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and rant about whatever cryptid ufo topic they are interested in.

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So that could be really fun. We're hoping people get

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really theatrical and weird with it. So yeah, we're looking

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forward to seeing how that's gonna go. And of course

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we're gonna have cryptid mascots there because obviously Greg is

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the one who dresses as the graft And Monster. He

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has the big graft In Monster costume that he made

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from Fallout. I don't know if you've seen that on theline.

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Oh he's everywhere, it seems like these days. But yeah,

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he's an artist who creates these elaborate costumes and he's

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very focused on the cryptid ones. And they have a

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little walk through museum they're going to have with all

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of these like costumes and things that he's made of

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these cryptids. So he's got the Flatwoods Monster, the Grafton Monster,

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he's in the process of doing the Snelly Gaster, He's

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got Mothman. I don't know if he's done anything sheep

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Squatch yet. That might might have to be next. But yeah,

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so he's got all this fun stuff and they're going

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to set up a little walking museum and that's going

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to be really cool. They're also going to come out

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and do that for Fearsome Folklore Festival this year, too,

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very cool.

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Speaker 2: Octopus with No Friends says, we have to show some

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of your plushies as well. We did at the beginning

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of the show, and this is just a small sampling

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of them. I mean, you have so many, but here's you.

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Speaker 3: I should have had some sitting by me so I

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could show them, but uh, they're all in the garage

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right now because I've moved them. Well, I can grab

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the moth Man. I can show an up close to

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the Mothman and the hold Egg. Those are right here.

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Oh and green Nurse, I got a few here. Let's

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see what you say, green Ice, green Ice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the green Eyes. There you go, Lee Lee Warner

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is really likes the green Eyed monster.

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Speaker 3: All right, so green Ice right here.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 3: Nice the official plushy of the Green Ice Festival. Now too.

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Here's a little goat man. He's got a little ax

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I've got This is one variation of my moth Man.

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I've done two now this is the newer design. And

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then of course the hold egg.

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Speaker 2: He looks very mischievous with the side eye going there. House.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I changed the face. I don't know if you

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remember the old face where he looked very mean. This

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one's just the dirty version.

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he's goofy. So I had a lot

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of fun designing that one, and then I asked Ben.

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I was like, all right, if I'm doing, you know,

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a large quantity of these, because I've started outsourcing my

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plushy manufacturing on these, so I'm still handmaking a lot

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of stuff. But it got overwhelming, so I asked. I

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asked Ben at the Hodagg store which face he would

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prefer for the new batch, and he went with the

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dirty base. I was like, yeah, I think that's the

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way to go.

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Speaker 2: See Lee Warner is very excited. She loves the green Eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about the Green Eyes Festival too. That one's

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we're on year three now, that's in October, October seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: I know they post a lot on our Cryptids, Anomalis

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and Paranormal Convention board promoting it, but I haven't seen

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the date yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's October seventeenth. That is a fun event.

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I've done it every year.

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Speaker 2: They are very enthused by your creatures, and this one

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Kaiju Ninja really likes the Mothman. There was another Mothman

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one up here.

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Speaker 3: Ah, I'm so glad everyone likes them.

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Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. There you go. The green Eyes

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was awesome, but might scare my daughter.

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Speaker 3: I was really surprised. I was at a Frogman festival

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and this little girl, probably four, came up and like

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she's looking at all the places. Her mom's trying to

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get her to get a lock nest monster, and she's like, no,

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she wanted green Eyes. She would not settle for anything

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other than green Eyes. And her mom's like, really, that's

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the one you want. You don't think that's scary, and

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she's hogging ash.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: It was so cute.

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Speaker 2: People people are drawn to some weird things. You never know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's how you know that kid's cool.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Do you uh, let's see do you we

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have on the show notes for the episode, we have

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the link tree for cryptid Comforts. So do you have

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a way that they can purchase these online?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I've got my Etsy shop.

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Speaker 2: Oh there you go. That's yeah, I was gonna say

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on your website, but I do remember seeing the Etsy

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on there, so very cool, and these are all available

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on Etsy. Yeah awesome. So there you go. Everyone. If

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you want to grab your own little green eyes or something,

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go on in the show notes. There is a link

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tree for Cryptid comforts. Click on the Etsy link and

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you can purchase them if you can't make it out

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to one of our awesome events. So there you go.

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H But now moving on, we have I believe your

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face cryptid. Am I right?

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Speaker 3: I don't have favorite Cryptids. They're all my babies and

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I love them all equally.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, you're uh, let's see, you're most.

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Speaker 3: What I'm the most devoted to.

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Speaker 2: You go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: It's because Squank is such a needy bitch. You know,

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00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:23,160
you gotta you gotta be there for it constantly cries

469
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,440
all the time. Gotta help him out. Yeah, Squonka Los

470
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:30,960
is my baby. This is my first event that I

471
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:36,960
ever hosted. It's my idea too. So it all started

472
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,000
twenty I think twenty twenty two was when I first

473
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,920
started talking about it, and basically I was telling people

474
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,200
like someone should do an event for the squonk and

475
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,079
Uh Joe Fogelfa of Cryptoteology said Okay, let's do it.

476
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000
And I was like, oh, I didn't mean me, I

477
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,000
meant somebody. And he's like, why don't we do it?

478
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,279
He lives in Pennsylvania, so I'm like okay. So we

479
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:09,039
met up at Hodag Festival that year and started planning it.

480
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,440
So that's when the planning began and we started kind

481
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,519
of figuring it all out, and yeah, it's been it's

482
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,519
been a blast, and we're on the fourth year now.

483
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:26,799
It's a wildly successful event. We changed locations, so originally

484
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,240
we were at that park. You were at the one

485
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,880
at the park, which was kind of awkward because the

486
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,839
speakers were in a theater that was like two blocks away,

487
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:39,920
and so it was kind of awkward setting up that way.

488
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,799
And now we have it where we do it at Bottlework,

489
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440
so everything's more contained and it's lovely. So we have

490
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:47,920
this great building for all the inside stuff. We need,

491
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:52,319
our speakers, our live music up on the rooftop we

492
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,319
do entertainment, and then we have some interior vendors and

493
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,000
then a bunch of exterior vendors. We close down the

494
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:04,759
streets there, and it's all included now, so we can

495
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,279
have everything all together, and I think the flow of

496
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,279
it is just so much better. So I'm really excited

497
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,079
for year four. We've got some fun stuff in store.

498
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,400
It's about eighty vendors, and this is definitely my biggest

499
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,359
event that I host as far as people coming out

500
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
and stuff. I think last year someone told me we

501
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:30,079
had about seven thousand people. I think that seemed high,

502
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
but I don't know because I was running around like

503
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
a crazy person the whole time, and there's no way

504
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,000
to count them because they're free to enter, so it's

505
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,160
just like wander in. We're not counting heads, so I

506
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:44,119
never know how many people are there, but I mean

507
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,839
it was busy, and it has been like year one.

508
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960
I think we thought we had about two thousand people

509
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,000
the first year, so already I was like, that's better

510
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:57,799
than I expected. And it just keeps growing every year

511
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:02,680
and it's so fun and the entertainers we get are great.

512
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,039
So we've got several live music options. We've got a magician,

513
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,440
they're doing a magic show, flow dancing, and then of

514
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:18,000
course speakers who are presenting on topics from a cryptid spectrum.

515
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:25,960
So yeah, it's it's definitely that's Squonk is my baby.

516
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,920
And this year, if you can't tell by the flyer,

517
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,599
we're going with an eighties theme, so mostly because I

518
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,359
wanted to draw a squawk roller skating in a fluorescent spandex.

519
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,119
So yeah, and who doesn't.

520
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was It was definitely a very good event

521
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880
the year that I was there speaking and I think,

522
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,759
like you said, the theater was off on one end,

523
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,359
which made it yeah off, but it was a cool theater.

524
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, the theater is gorgeous. It's not functional anymore.

525
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,279
They've shut it down. There were some issues, so that

526
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,799
is unfortunate because it is such a cool building.

527
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:08,359
Speaker 2: It. I got to speak upstairs and they said that

528
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,119
they it was unique because they built the stage off

529
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,839
of the second floor mezzanine, so it wasn't even the

530
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,119
real stage. The stage was like thirty feet below us,

531
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,839
but this was like up in the air. That was

532
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,759
a really cool, really cool venue and stuff. But it

533
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,039
was neat there.

534
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed that theater. It was. It was a

535
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,519
cool theater. It just I didn't like how far it

536
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,200
was from the park because I felt like people weren't

537
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,599
able to easily pop in and see the speakers, and

538
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,839
I mean you had to really know where what you

539
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240
were doing despite the signage, because you know nobody reads signs.

540
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,240
We can put up a thousand maps of this is

541
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,039
how it is, and people will still be like, I

542
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,079
couldn't find.

543
00:33:55,799 --> 00:34:00,119
Speaker 2: It and I was going to get to this. But

544
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,680
here's your question. What is a squawk?

545
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,759
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so the squonk is the saddest creature in

546
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:11,719
the world, so from old school lumberjack folklore, so not

547
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,760
a real cryptid, but it started off being talked about

548
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,039
around campfires by lumberjacks, and it was first mentioned in

549
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,639
a book that came out in nineteen ten called Fearsome

550
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,960
Creatures of the lumber Woods by William T. Cox, and

551
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,159
it is said that the squonk lives in the Hemlock

552
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,480
Forest in Pennsylvania and it cries all the time because

553
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:39,159
he's so ugly, poor guy, such self esteem issues, his

554
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,559
skin doesn't fit, and he's just got a real struggle.

555
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,480
Life is hard for him. Can't bear to see his

556
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,599
own reflection. And his one and only defense mechanism, like

557
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,800
if somebody's coming along and they're trying to capture him,

558
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,679
they sneak up on him. He gets so upset that

559
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,840
he so much that he just dissolves into a puddle

560
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,079
and that's it. That's all that's left to him, just wet.

561
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480
So yeah, I mean, saddest creature ever. If your only

562
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:17,719
defense mechanism is death, it's a rough life for a squank.

563
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,199
I mean so because you know, when I first learned

564
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,480
about the squonk, I guess it was in twenty twenty one,

565
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:27,199
I think when I first heard about the squonk, and

566
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840
I immediately was fascinated. I was like, Oh, I love

567
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,239
this creature, this poor poor boy. I was like, I

568
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,639
need to write a children's book that teaches the squank

569
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,679
some body positivity. And I did so. I wrote a

570
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,679
book called Why So Sad Squonk? And in the book,

571
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,559
the squonk is crying because he's being bullied by some

572
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,320
mean squirrels, because you know, squirrels are jerks and dog Man.

573
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,800
I chose dog Man as the secondary character in the

574
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,000
book for two reasons. One because regionally there are dog

575
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,840
Man sightings in the same area that's Slonk would be seen.

576
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:06,159
And second because people think of dog Man as vicious.

577
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,679
It's scary and ferocious, and so I wanted to represent

578
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,159
that as my secondary character. And what dog Man does

579
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,840
is he seeks out the Squank, hearing him crying in

580
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,880
the forest, befriends him, teaches him he's beautiful and special

581
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,760
just the way he is. And so we see a

582
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,840
soft side of the dog Man and then in the

583
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,039
ending of the book, a squonk ass dog Man if

584
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,400
anything ever makes him feel sad, and he's like, yeah,

585
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,840
people think I'm mean and scary, and Schulk's like, what,

586
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:41,639
that's crazy, You're so nice. So the idea that even big,

587
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,840
strong people get their feelings hurt, and we're all sensitive

588
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:51,239
and we all can be a little squonky sometimes.

589
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: Very good, very good. I had Ronald Murphy on my

590
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,480
show a couple months and he was talking about he

591
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:58,519
was going to have his new book which was all

592
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,000
about the history and folklore and stuff about the Squonk Out.

593
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I wrote the forward to the book.

594
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: Nice, very cool cool. So yeah, so if anybody's interested

595
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,280
in more history and folklore of the squonk you'll have

596
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,840
to look out for Ronald Murphy's new book.

597
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: Oh yes, his book is fantastic. I absolutely love it,

598
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,400
and like he hits on so many parts about the

599
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,159
ecosystem of the Squonk that is really fascinating, and he's

600
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,440
just such a great guy and his research is phenomenal.

601
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,079
He's also been a speaker at Squonkapalooza every single year,

602
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,159
so uh. He definitely brings something to the table every time,

603
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,280
and it's always fresh and new. Buddy always you know,

604
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,039
does something very Squonk focused. So it's been nice having

605
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:52,159
him as a part of the event since the very beginning.

606
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,079
Speaker 2: He was awesome. I got to meet him when we

607
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,239
were there that year. Yeah. Cool.

608
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great guy, very cool.

609
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: So has there been You said that it was just

610
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,760
a folklore, you know, lumberjack law and stuff, But has

611
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,920
there been like sightings of the Squonk, Like, what is

612
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,639
the last time somebody?

613
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,679
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, so that's the thing now that we've put

614
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,000
it into the mind of all these people and people

615
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:24,440
start to think that it's real. There have been sightings,

616
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,679
but only since we've started this, and so every year

617
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,800
at Squonka Palooza, inevitably somebody will tell us I think

618
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,400
I saw one, and I'm always thinking in the back

619
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,559
of my mind, oh no, sweetie, you didn't. But I

620
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:46,960
never say that. Of course, because that would be terrible

621
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,440
of me. The Kryptowski Brothers, I'm not sure if you're

622
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,440
familiar with them. They're awesome. They came out to Squonka

623
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,639
Palooza one year and they did a little video of

624
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:58,840
them going out in the woods trying to search for

625
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,519
the Squonk and they thought they may have seen him too.

626
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,920
They thought they may have slightly captured him on video.

627
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,880
But no, Squonks are not real. Sorry, guys, they're not.

628
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,519
Oh recently, this was really exciting for me. You know

629
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:22,480
the show Abbot Elementary. Okay, so Avid Elementary is a

630
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,679
show about a school in Pennsylvania, like an under budget school,

631
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,800
and they're out on this camping trip and the Squonk

632
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,920
is mentioned so many times in that episode. I literally

633
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,280
threw out my back jumping up and down when they

634
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,320
first mentioned the Squawk, and the entire episode just keeps

635
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,119
bringing up the Squonk. It was their Halloween episode, and

636
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,159
how fantastic. The squank is really getting more and more recognition,

637
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,519
And I mean, I will take credit for that because

638
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,519
I put it out there too. I mean, other people

639
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:01,320
knew about the Squawk well before I did, but I'm

640
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,679
the one who made him famous.

641
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I would not discredit that. I would think

642
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,280
You've done a lot in the crypto community for the squawk.

643
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,800
So I've had I've had a few Squonk sightings myself

644
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,280
at different events and things.

645
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean people are now seeing Squonk.

646
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,960
So I've manifested it so much that I've made it real.

647
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do you think have you have you looked into

648
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,840
anything like the tulpas? And okay, so, so a tulpa

649
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,199
is this entity. I'm not sure where it falls under,

650
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,760
like spiritual or like fay or whatever, but these tulpas

651
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,280
are basically like a creature that forms because of your thoughts.

652
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,400
So like slender Man is just an online story and stuff,

653
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320
but people are seeing slender Man. The squonks you said,

654
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,719
is just this folklore, mythology and stuff. But with all

655
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,639
the people believing and putting energy into it these other things,

656
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,719
that the toulpas could manifest as a squonk, and that

657
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,199
would we've made it real exactly. Yeah, So I like

658
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,360
that idea. It's always this fine line of if you

659
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,119
believe in this stuff and you study it and you say, well,

660
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:27,760
the squnk isn't real, there's that line that says, well,

661
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,519
if you believe in it, then these other things that

662
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:35,920
are tolpahs could manifest things that aren't making you now

663
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,119
have squaks and other creatures and stuff.

664
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: So what that.

665
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's sometimes used to like to just to

666
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,079
you know, when when people describe these weird bigfoot encounters,

667
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:48,920
that they're not actually encountering a bigfoot. They're encountering these

668
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,199
tulpas or thought form projections of what people believe is

669
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,360
a bigfoot. So it gives it more weirder attributes and

670
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,079
stuff that makes sense.

671
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there are so many possibilities, and I think

672
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,840
that's the great thing is there are so many things

673
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,880
in this world that we can't know, and for people

674
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,719
to be like, that's not real, I don't believe in

675
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,800
any of that, well, that's just silly, Like you can't

676
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,920
be all knowing. There are so many things we don't know,

677
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,599
and I think that's part of what the appeal is

678
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:28,000
for cryptozoology, At least for me, it's the weirdness of

679
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,320
the unknown, and that's the part I appreciate most. I

680
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,440
used to listen to a podcast called The Hidden Creatures Podcast,

681
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,800
and Edward would always close out every episode with There

682
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,360
isn't always has been a beauty in the unknown, and

683
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,199
that is a line that just sticks with me because

684
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,920
that is exactly how I feel about it. The beauty

685
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,800
in the unknown is really what makes this whole world

686
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,920
so special to me. I'm not out there trying to

687
00:42:56,039 --> 00:43:00,639
prove anything exists. I'm just enjoying the weirdness of it.

688
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: I think that leads to one of our questions here,

689
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:08,000
kaud you Ninja wanted to know, have you ever have

690
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,480
you ever been interested in investigating research encryptids, or have

691
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,679
you ever had your own cryptid or UFO experience.

692
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: I don't think I've had any actual experience. I've had

693
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:26,239
some weird experiences, but I wouldn't say they're necessarily crypted,

694
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,920
but paranormal on some level, like a really weird incident.

695
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,159
I was out at the on the Oregon coast camping

696
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,840
by myself once, and you know, I love cats. So

697
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,880
I see this little black cat and I befriend him instantly.

698
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,519
And there were only a couple people at the campsite,

699
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:51,920
were all very spread out, it wasn't very busy, and

700
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,239
so I hung out with this kiddy the entire day

701
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,199
and then I have to leave go do something. I

702
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,239
come back and I'm looking for the cat. There are

703
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,960
other people around, so I'm like, oh, hey, do you

704
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,079
see this little black cat And everyone's like no, So

705
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,239
I asked at the store there. I was like, oh,

706
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,199
the little black cat that hangs out. She's like, I've

707
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,079
never seen a cat. Oh, well, that's weird, okay. And

708
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,719
so then as soon as all other people are out

709
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,039
of sight, the cat appears again, and the cat comes

710
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,199
out hangs out with me the rest of the night,

711
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,360
and then when I go into my tent to go

712
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,480
to sleep, the cat goes under my car, and the

713
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:31,880
sound coming from under my car from that cat was terrifying.

714
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,360
It was making these horrible noises like if you've ever

715
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,679
heard a cat and heat, that's what it sounded like.

716
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,800
But the cat had been perfectly normal the rest of

717
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,679
the time. But then it's this low guttural growling coming

718
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,880
from under my car, and I was like, well, that's unsettling.

719
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,039
And yeah, at some point I finally managed to fall asleep,

720
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400
and then in the middle of the night, I'm woken

721
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,519
up to the entire top of my tent going in

722
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,079
on me, and then it pops back out like something

723
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,880
really heavy, just like hit my tent and pop back out,

724
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:14,199
and I'm just like, okay, I'm like, that was clearly

725
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,559
too big to be a cat. But what was that?

726
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:24,199
And so that whole trip was just surreal and very strange.

727
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,079
And I'm fairly certain that cat was actually a demon

728
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,519
sent as a cat because it knew that that was

729
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,599
the way in. I'm like, oh, kitty, yeah, absolutely all

730
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,480
hang out with the stray cat all day long. But yeah,

731
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,440
I'm pretty sure that cat was a demon something something horrible, but.

732
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,159
Speaker 2: It was a real cat. It was disguised at.

733
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And so that was weird, a

734
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:58,400
whole weird incident. But I can't really explain that as

735
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,119
a cryptid or even an alien experience. Just surreal and

736
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:07,159
paranormal of some kind, I think. But and I've had

737
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:12,119
some ghostly encounters. When I was a little kid, I

738
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,639
lived in a house in upstate New York that we rented,

739
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,519
and there were some haunting stuff going on there. And

740
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,880
every single night, at three am, I'd get three taps

741
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,320
in the center of my back.

742
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: By nothing.

743
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: There was never anything there, but it happened every single night.

744
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,599
I'm woken up to three taps in the center of

745
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,440
my back, and I was seven at the time. And

746
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,719
then one time we came home after being out and

747
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,559
there was this little attic area that me and my

748
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,079
sister went up to play in, and the owner of

749
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:49,159
the house owned a restaurant, so they had like little

750
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:53,599
restaurant guest checks up in there, and so we would

751
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:56,159
play restaurant with them, and you know, pretend to take

752
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,880
orders and stuff. And we came up and all of

753
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,079
the guest checks had been ripped off the books and

754
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,079
piled in the middle of the floor, and we hadn't

755
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:11,119
been there, So that was super weird and unsettling. And

756
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:16,000
I'd hear voices occasionally in the house. But yeah, that's

757
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:22,119
that's kind of my experience personally with the paranormal. And

758
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,400
you know, I'm always I lived in Oregon for a

759
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,480
long time and I would sit out there on the

760
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,119
Cumberland looking for a colossal claud because you know, that's

761
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:35,559
where he was said to live. And I saw some

762
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:37,800
things out on the water and I'm like, oh, is

763
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,239
that clawed? And I'm like, no, probably, just you know,

764
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,239
some other animals swimming under the water. Just then, all

765
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,880
of a sudden, a bunch of birds would fly up

766
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,719
out of the water. So you know, I think water

767
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,960
creatures are the hardest because so many things could look

768
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:57,679
like a monster at a distance under the water that

769
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,440
I always tried.

770
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: I would say, like your camping story is very interesting.

771
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,639
The whole tent being pushed down is something that we hear.

772
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that scared the crap out of me.

773
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear that over and over in bigfooting like

774
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:11,679
that just in the middle of the night, like a

775
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,360
hand or something will come and pressed dout. Same with that,

776
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,360
like guttural growl. So I wonder if maybe maybe it

777
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,480
wasn't the cat that you were hearing, but something else

778
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,079
on the edge of the woodbine or something, and then

779
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,880
he came in and you know, growling at them.

780
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,679
Speaker 3: I mean, the sound was clearly coming from where the

781
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,000
cat was under my car, so I felt like that

782
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:36,079
sound was definitely coming from the cat, but it definitely

783
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:42,079
did not sound normal cat like, but cat and heat, sure,

784
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,920
because cats and heat sound crazy. But the cat hadn't

785
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:51,159
shown any other signs of that the whole time I've

786
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:54,400
been with it, So I don't know, very weird all

787
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,920
at all, But yeah, the tent being pushed down in

788
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,119
the middle of the night was definitely the line, and

789
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,559
I was like, oh no, I don't like this.

790
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Octopus. Octopus degrees as well. That's what he was thinking.

791
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,000
That the car was responding to the sasquatch in the

792
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,400
woods probably or the car cat.

793
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what she means, but yeah, that makes

794
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,400
summer maybe.

795
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,199
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I see what

796
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,360
you're saying. Like the cat was reacting to the bigfoot.

797
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that was hiding under the car because it

798
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,000
was scared. Yeah.

799
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 2: Maybe cats can make devilish sounds when defensive.

800
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yeh. And then I have three cats. My middle

801
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:43,960
one makes some weird noises sometimes, but never quite like that.

802
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:51,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. So let me stop and go back here

803
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:53,239
real quick. Tell me a little bit more about the

804
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,119
folklore and history of the water creature. I don't remember

805
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:57,679
what you called.

806
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,599
Speaker 3: Him, Oh, colossal Claude.

807
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: I haven't heard about him.

808
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's our our Oregon water monster said to

809
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,119
live in the Cumberland. Am I remembering that correctly? The

810
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:13,039
Cumberland River, I think it's called the cumber Like my

811
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:16,960
brain has been broken, but yeah, it's the river that

812
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:24,159
flows between Oregon and Washington and so in Portland. I

813
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:26,519
had a friend who lived on the river, and so

814
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:29,000
I would just sit out on her back porch because

815
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,360
I would cat set four, so I'd be sitting out

816
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,559
on her back porch just watching the water. But yeah,

817
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:38,360
Colossal Claude, I honestly don't remember all the details about him,

818
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,440
but there were a few sightings of a creature, and

819
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,440
then there was another sighting of what was described as

820
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,559
maybe a smaller version, and they had given him a

821
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:49,920
different name, and I'm trying to remember start with a J.

822
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,840
Don't remember the name of that one, But Colossal Claude

823
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,519
is kind of the water monster of Yeah, that area

824
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,679
on in the Cumberland River between Oregon and Washington.

825
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: There are so many I mean, you know, Chad Lewis.

826
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,559
Chad Lewis has a book about monsters in Wisconsin, and

827
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,480
I guess there's fifty fifty five different lakes just in

828
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:21,559
Wisconsin that all have sightings and reports of lake monster

829
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,559
sea creatures and stuff. So, I mean it is it

830
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,960
doesn't surprise me. There's a ton of them that I had.

831
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're everywhere, So I'm.

832
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,159
Speaker 2: Always interested in pulling up some local folklore and stuff

833
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:32,440
on that.

834
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like, you know, some of the

835
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,719
water monsters get a little more famous than others, like Champ.

836
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,519
Champs got a bigger reputation than Claude, but they're the creature.

837
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,719
I do remember colossal Claude. One of the stories was

838
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,679
a fishing boat was out catching salmon and they tried

839
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:56,440
to pull up their net and there was a big

840
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,559
hole chewed in it and they saw this creature swimming away.

841
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,880
I'm like, oh, he got all your fishies. And I

842
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,800
mean that's the thing when and it always happened. He

843
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,719
would come when the salmon runs were low, if I'm

844
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,119
remembering correctly, like when it was more scarce. That's when

845
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:17,519
he would approach the fishing boats and stuff and steal

846
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:21,840
theirs because they were having trouble getting enough fish at

847
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,239
the time.

848
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: Well that makes that would make sense because if he's

849
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
having more trouble finding food, he would be taking it

850
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,440
from the fishing game.

851
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: He's hungry, so he's got to do what he's got

852
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,719
to do.

853
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,039
Speaker 2: Makes sense. Interesting Either that or they're just trying to,

854
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,199
you know, make an excuse as to why they didn't

855
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,280
catch any fish that season.

856
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,519
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I don't know this monster ate at all.

857
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,920
It's not our fault. Look at the hole in the net.

858
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: All all mets have holes. Very good, Very good. All right, well,

859
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,199
we got one more event to talk about here, and

860
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,840
I think this one's pretty big here, so the Fearsome

861
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:04,400
Folklore Festival tell us all about that one.

862
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,199
Speaker 3: So this one last year was the first year we've

863
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,880
changed venues. Last year we did it Murphysboro, Tennessee at

864
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,039
the Hot Springs, which that venue is fantastic, but we

865
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:20,079
wanted to We did it in August last year, and

866
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,679
the weather did not cooperate. Several things didn't go as planned,

867
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,239
so we decided we wanted to push it. And looking at,

868
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,199
you know, my extensive calendar of crazy things that I

869
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,639
have going on, I was like, all right, well the

870
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:39,320
best time would be the first weekend in November. So

871
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,599
I went from August to I have to have the

872
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,599
first weekend in November. And my venue was already booked.

873
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,119
So I was like, all right, well, either I'll figure

874
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:49,480
out a different day or I'll figure out a different venue.

875
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,960
So I figured out a different venue. I just posted

876
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,559
on the Fearsome Folklore Instagram page. One day I was

877
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:01,599
like desperately seeking venue and imdiately people were reaching out like,

878
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:03,960
oh here, try this, try this, And I had a

879
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,760
couple places offer to host us, and the Crazy Gnome.

880
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,920
I chose them one because Gnomes seemed perfect for a

881
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:18,039
folklore festival and the setup was kind of everything that

882
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:21,320
I needed in a setup. It has a little indoor space,

883
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,000
a little outdoor space, and a lot of you know

884
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,719
space in general, ample places to park nearby, so you know,

885
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,760
all those things that you're looking for in a venue.

886
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,519
The only thing it didn't have was a stage, so

887
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:41,400
we're making one for live music. The owner actually has

888
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,960
bought us a little pop up stage that's like eight

889
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,760
foot put outside, so we'll have some live music outside,

890
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,039
then we'll have some speakers inside in the main brewery area,

891
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,639
and then we'll have vendors spanning outside. We're gonna have

892
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,920
the Ghostbusters Tennessee Ghostbusters are joining us and they're gonna

893
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,480
set up out front for photo ops stuff, and then

894
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:12,880
we'll have a mobile bookstore coming, several different food options

895
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,079
including the food that they sell their on site U

896
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,440
plus a couple of food trucks, and then just all

897
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:25,719
sorts of different vendors. We were going going to do

898
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:29,519
a couple different like walk through museums, but we are

899
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,679
down to just one now, so I think that's okay.

900
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,800
But yeah, we'll have all sorts of stuff. We have

901
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:41,480
acrobatic team that comes and they did mermaiding for us

902
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:43,920
last year, so we're gonna have the Mermaids back this year.

903
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,079
But they're also bringing a few other things to the

904
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,440
to the table. I think she said something about a

905
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,480
bed of nails and some uh, you know, flow dance stuff.

906
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:58,159
So there's gonna be some interesting circus hack type things

907
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:03,960
going on there. And yeah, this event is a lot

908
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,920
of fun. And it's in Nashville, so you know, in

909
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,079
big cities you have such a variety of weirdos. It's

910
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:15,039
so easy to find your people. And I have such

911
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:18,159
a great group. We'll have about fifty vendors at that one.

912
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,360
So this is kind of my in between event. I've

913
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719
got the small one, the big one, and then this

914
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:29,920
one's just right right in the middle. So very cool,

915
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,320
very cool.

916
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen like the Mermaids and stuff at some

917
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,199
events and like that. There's there's like a fairy conventions

918
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,360
and festivals and stuff too, And and I talked to

919
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,119
them at one event down in South Carolina and they were.

920
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,800
They were talking about having this fay event that was

921
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,199
gonna have cool fairies and unicorns and stuff, and I'm like, well,

922
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,000
that sounds cool. I've never been to one of those.

923
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: But I would have a lot of fun with that.

924
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got them like at Renaissance fairs and stuff,

925
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,559
like a little area where people are dressed up as

926
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,519
you know, like a centaur or so as.

927
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:06,159
Speaker 3: The original Fearsome Folklore Festival, I had hired a unicorn,

928
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,679
a professional unicorn, and a petting zoo that was supposed

929
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,960
to show up, and they know showed on me. So

930
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,760
I had been hardcore promoting that there was going to

931
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,039
be a live unicorn at the event because I was

932
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:20,199
so excited. That was the one thing I wanted for

933
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:23,159
the event. I was so excited to find a unicorn

934
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:26,280
that fit in our budget. We paid a deposit for it,

935
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,840
we had it on the books, I promoted it, and

936
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,280
then come day of they didn't show up at all,

937
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,239
And so I'm calling her, I'm texting her on Facebook,

938
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,199
messaging her like where, Yeah, where's my unicorn? I'm expecting

939
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:46,840
a petting zoo and a unicorn. What's going on? And

940
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,199
then finally she responds with one line it's raining, and

941
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:54,519
it wasn't there at all yet. It did later in

942
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:56,360
the day, but at that point it still wasn't and

943
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,880
I was like, not here, and she just never responded again.

944
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,239
Several times I tried to reach out over the next week,

945
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,400
being like, well, you need to give us our deposit

946
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,239
back since you were in no show, and she just ghosted.

947
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,320
So then I had to do a big post on

948
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,239
social media because kids were showing up like where's the unicorn?

949
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,000
Like that's what I want to know. I also was

950
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,679
really excited about the unicorn, and it makes me look

951
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:26,719
bad as a show host to have promised something and

952
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,800
not come through with it, and so I was furious.

953
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,239
So I did a big post on social media that

954
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,719
was just like, where was the unicorn? Let me tell

955
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:43,079
you about and so yeah, they that's that's no way

956
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:47,760
to run a unicorn business. You can't promise someone a

957
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,119
unicorn and not show.

958
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: There's so so many ways to take that statement. I mean,

959
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:58,119
like you look back at at the old you know,

960
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,159
like you said, the Wriggling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey and

961
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,559
some shows and stuff, and they're like, oh, it's a

962
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:04,039
sea monster and you go in there and there's a

963
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:04,800
hippo you know.

964
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,679
Speaker 3: Right, Well, so Unicorn was actually like a miniature horse

965
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,800
that just they did the Unicorn horn on it and yeah,

966
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:20,320
silly fun. But I paid for it and we didn't

967
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:20,719
get it.

968
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh.

969
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: I never refunded our deposit either. I'm glad that at

970
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,679
least it wasn't a huge deposit. But yeah, she still

971
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,480
lows me money. And by me, I mean she owes

972
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,880
Rick money because it was his money.

973
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,599
Speaker 2: I totally get this. I've you know, I've run several

974
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:40,039
events and stuff now, and you know, you put all

975
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:42,880
this money advertising into stuff or you know, and I

976
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,320
don't I don't mean to put any person down or anything,

977
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,519
but you advertise a person being there too, and then

978
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,280
things come up. I mean it happened right well, at least.

979
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: Speaking of amazing people, Ron Murphy was actually supposed to

980
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,039
speak at that event and had to cancel on me

981
00:59:57,159 --> 01:00:00,400
last minute because of a family emergency. Totally understand not

982
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:04,599
his fault. I get it, and that's understandable. And people

983
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:07,320
are gonna have to cancel occasionally because of that, and

984
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,880
I have no ill will towards anyone who cancels for

985
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,079
a legitimate reason. And you know communicates that. Oh sure,

986
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,360
as much as I want you there, I understand, life happens,

987
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:22,440
but you need to communicate. And that's that's all I ask,

988
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:24,880
is that you call me and say, hey, not gonna

989
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,519
make it. Sorry for the bother.

990
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,719
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, Yeah, things happen.

991
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,159
Speaker 2: Well, we are at the end of our hour here,

993
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:41,280
So if you guys have any other questions, I think

994
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,880
I have a couple here actually stored up for you.

995
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,719
But if you have any other questions, throw them in

996
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,480
the comments section and we'll try and get him in

997
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,280
here before we wrap up. This was more of a

998
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,960
comment here. You have to understand that these creatures were real.

999
01:00:56,199 --> 01:00:59,320
They were what they are, what people call them. Just

1000
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,920
because they're different culture doesn't mean that they're understood. They

1001
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:06,440
not mean that they are understood the world differently. Yeah,

1002
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,639
so a lot of the stories and stuff these these

1003
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:12,360
creatures and stuff that were seen were seen. They just

1004
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,559
maybe a misidentification or something that hadn't been discovered yet.

1005
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:18,559
I think it's pretty much where we're going with.

1006
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 3: Well, with the fearsome creatures of the lumberwoods, though we

1007
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:27,159
know most of those were made up. I mean, the

1008
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:31,119
hodag is a prime example. Of that where not only

1009
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:33,559
did he produce a live hodag and show it to

1010
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,199
people and people left believing that they had just seen

1011
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,239
a real, true, live hotag, but when the Smithsonian wanted

1012
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,119
more information on in to study this creature, he had

1013
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:45,320
to admit the whole thing was a hoax. And a

1014
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,960
lot of the Lumberjack folklore was that. Or they'd see

1015
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,800
things in the environment, like the slide rock Boulter in Colorado.

1016
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,159
They see things like the destruction on the side of

1017
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,119
the hill and then the town demolished underneath it, and

1018
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,440
they're like, well, what could have caused that? And instead

1019
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:07,519
of thinking, oh, humans obviously doing stupid things and destroying

1020
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:10,400
the environment, they're like, it must have been some kind

1021
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,320
of a monster. And so I think that was kind

1022
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,119
of also, like they'd see certain things in the environment

1023
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:20,280
and they'd make up a story to fit it. And

1024
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:24,800
I don't really know what it was that they saw

1025
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,840
that made the squonka a thing, but I mean it

1026
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,199
could have just been that they'd see strange puddles when

1027
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:35,440
it hadn't rained in days, and you know, makeup stories

1028
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,079
to fit it. Because at the time you got to

1029
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,679
think about this, at the time that the Lumberjack folklore

1030
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,239
kind of originated. There was no radio or TV or

1031
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,599
you know anything, so it was all word of mouse

1032
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:52,639
stories as entertainment. And so I think the idea of

1033
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:54,519
the entertainment. And I don't know how much of the

1034
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,880
book William T. Cox took from actual lore or made up.

1035
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:05,840
Fortunately we can't ask him, but I think a lot

1036
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,519
of it was sitting around campfires and relaying these these tales.

1037
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:11,920
Oh well you saw that, well guess what I saw,

1038
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:16,239
and coming up with just the strangest things. And I

1039
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,599
mean those are some of the more normal creatures in

1040
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:23,079
the book. They get really out of hand.

1041
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: I love this comment. Octopus with No Friends says, the

1042
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:33,679
Hodagg was Smithsonian Smithson. It's like the giant Bowens and

1043
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:36,559
all the other things that the Smithsonian threw under the

1044
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:37,639
rug the whole egg.

1045
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:40,119
Speaker 3: But I will say the Hodagg did its job, and

1046
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:44,559
it's still doing that job, and the whole idea. Jean

1047
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:47,559
Shepherd made up the hod Egg to drive tourism to

1048
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,159
the town because the town needed it to survive, and

1049
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:53,760
it worked and it's still to this day working. And

1050
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,679
no town loves their monster more than ryin Lander, Wisconsin.

1051
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,760
And I mean literally hold eggs everywhere on the police cars,

1052
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,159
on the ambulances. And that is why the Hodagg is

1053
01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:08,519
so awesome, is because it is such an icon even

1054
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:10,199
though we know it wasn't real.

1055
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: I have heard, you know, about the hold egg being

1056
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:22,039
possibly sightings of wooly mammoths, like a relict population of those,

1057
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:25,400
because the original newspaper article that Eugene Shepherd pulled from

1058
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,559
talks about it having the head of an elephant, spikes

1059
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:31,480
down its back and a spiky tail and stuff. But

1060
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:35,599
the grinning face elephant is what's described in the original

1061
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:38,559
newspaper article before Eugene Shepherd took it and ran with it.

1062
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,079
Speaker 3: Oh, I did not know that.

1063
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's there's some people that believe that the

1064
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,920
Hodagg was sightings of a relic population of mammoths.

1065
01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

1066
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:54,519
Speaker 2: So like like uh it raven something said, you know,

1067
01:04:54,639 --> 01:04:57,440
like all this stuff is based on something that was seen.

1068
01:04:57,559 --> 01:04:59,840
You know a lot of it is folklore and just

1069
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,840
out of tall tails and stuff. But there's there's a

1070
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,639
lot of it all came from somewhere, right, people. People

1071
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,000
didn't just pull it out of thin air, going oh

1072
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,639
I think this, you know, it was a sighting or

1073
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,199
a story or something like that.

1074
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some some reason, some inspiration.

1075
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: For people are just up and up in arms about

1076
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:24,960
unicorns melting in the rain. I can't learn in these conditions.

1077
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,639
Speaker 3: You goof exactly right, I mean, it's a horse. Horses

1078
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:29,679
go out in the rain.

1079
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: This this question may seem a little off the wall.

1080
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:39,280
So I want to preface it because when asks all

1081
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:44,039
my guests this, it's a scientific reason for fightings and stuff,

1082
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:45,559
and she would like to know if you're okay, what

1083
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:46,519
is your blood type?

1084
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1085
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,599
Speaker 2: Okay, there's there's a O negative. It's a very prolific

1086
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,480
blood type in anybody that has had a sighting or

1087
01:05:56,599 --> 01:06:01,400
has had encounters and stuff like that. Really interesting. I

1088
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,119
think eight of the ten hosts on the Untold Radio

1089
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:07,159
network all are own negative blood type, so.

1090
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,199
Speaker 3: That's really interesting. I did not know that. But yeah,

1091
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,199
I actually I feel like I should know what my

1092
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:14,920
blood type is, as you know, an adult, but I don't.

1093
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,880
No one has ever told me. I don't know how

1094
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:19,760
you find that out.

1095
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:23,159
Speaker 2: You usually have to either donate blood or plasma and

1096
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:24,360
then they tell you don't.

1097
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: Need a blood. But I haven't done it since I

1098
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,360
was a teenager because I'm not allowed to anymore because

1099
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,199
of chronic illness.

1100
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:37,039
Speaker 2: So interesting. Yeah, that's an under comment. The numbers are.

1101
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's so interesting. I did not know that.

1102
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:43,760
I'm gonna have to ask my doctor next time I

1103
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,639
got blood work done today it would have been perfect

1104
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,639
time to ask. Maybe I'll just send them a little

1105
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:51,320
message in the app and be like, hey, by the way,

1106
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:56,079
can you tell me my blood type? Yeah, cryptozoology needs

1107
01:06:56,119 --> 01:06:56,440
to know.

1108
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've we've pulled several audiences and stuff on

1109
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,079
here as well, like just the people listening in, and

1110
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:06,679
it's it's insane the amount of people that are OWN

1111
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,199
negative in comparison to not and oh negative is it's

1112
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:10,840
pretty rare.

1113
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,119
Speaker 3: Isn't O negative like universal donors too? Okay? See, I

1114
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,280
feel like I would know if I was O negative

1115
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,679
because they would have told me, hey, you're a universal donor,

1116
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:23,679
we want your blood all the time. So I think

1117
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:27,039
I'm probably not O negative because I feel like that's

1118
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,639
something they would tell you if you're a universal donor.

1119
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: Beg you to come back for more. Yah.

1120
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Right, And I used to give blood back when I

1121
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,079
was a teenager.

1122
01:07:37,239 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: So interesting. Kai Ju Ninja says what other Cryptid creatures

1123
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,599
has Lisa thought of making products of but hasn't yet.

1124
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,719
Is she thinking of expanding the brand with more or

1125
01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:50,920
other products or merch.

1126
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm constantly expanding the brand, and I'm constantly creating

1127
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:59,000
new Cryptid So at this point, I've probably made fifty

1128
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:02,320
or so one Some of them are just one off plushy,

1129
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:07,639
some my mass produce, but yeah, I'm constantly creating new ones.

1130
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:12,199
This week, in particular, my goal is I uh so

1131
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,760
I do a Kickstarter for my outsourcing of my plushies,

1132
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,720
and one of the things I always put on there

1133
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,079
is to choose your own adventure Cryptid plushy, where I

1134
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:24,840
will make whatever you tell me to make. Uh And

1135
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,960
so that's fun for me because it becomes also a bigger,

1136
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:32,680
you know, important plushy. But usually they're just one offs

1137
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,319
because they're very complicated ones. But the sand Down Clown, Sam,

1138
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,239
the sand Down Clown is on my list for this

1139
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:42,359
week of making. I'm gonna make one of those. So

1140
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,960
That's what I've been having in my mind for a

1141
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,239
really long time, and so I'm really excited about finally

1142
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:52,960
trying to execute it because I love the Sanddown clown

1143
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:57,960
such a weird, strange creature. So that one's one that

1144
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,800
I'm I'm definitely excited about working on. But yeah, there's

1145
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,439
always so many that I really want to do, and

1146
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:10,359
I can remember them. At times I can't remember, you know,

1147
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,760
I have a list somewhere, but mostly it's just something

1148
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,399
I'll pop in my head. Like the other day, I

1149
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,840
was like, I guess the other day. This was a

1150
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,079
few months ago, it popped in my head that I

1151
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:23,960
wanted to make a server us and I'm like, all right,

1152
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,079
I'm going to drop everything and make a service today.

1153
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:28,439
And so I made a giant servius and it was

1154
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,399
awesome and so fun to make, and it took forever

1155
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,039
but worth it and I put little spike collars on

1156
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:37,960
him and everything. So a lot of what I do,

1157
01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:42,880
I do one offs and then yeah, if there's something

1158
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,840
easy to make, I can make. Yeah, there's my services.

1159
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,279
Speaker 2: He's in the picture.

1160
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 3: There he is. Yeah he's sold now, so I don't

1161
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:59,000
have him anymore. But yeah, I'm always interested in making

1162
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:03,279
new stuff and getting getting creative with it. So that's

1163
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:05,720
why I really enjoy putting out the Choose your Own Adventure.

1164
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,920
People also really like telling me what to make, and

1165
01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:11,720
I'm like, all right, well that's a good way for

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,760
me to give some money for instead of just making it.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. And you definitely have some some unique ones

1168
01:10:21,119 --> 01:10:21,640
out there.

1169
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: I do have some of the rarer ones.

1170
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, see, here we go. So we got oh negative

1171
01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:33,800
green Octopus with no friends own negative green eyes and

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,159
positive and then March's own negative has blue eyes. There

1173
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:41,600
you go. So even even our audience heres, it's all

1174
01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:43,079
oh something.

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should definitely find out my blood tag. I

1176
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,079
do have blue eyes. I don't know if that helps, but.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Interesting, awesome. Well, we we are at

1178
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the end of our show here today. I want to

1179
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:56,760
thank you so much for coming on. Talk about this

1180
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,640
a little bit more. We got the UFO DA coming

1181
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:04,399
up June twenty seventh. We have Squanka Palooza on August first,

1182
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,319
August first, and then Fearsome Folklore on November seventh, and

1183
01:11:10,359 --> 01:11:12,279
we have in the show notes we have the links

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to I think they're all the uh instagrams of each

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of them.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean I do have Facebook for

1187
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,960
Squanka Palooza and fears Folklore awesome, And then we have

1188
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,680
the event page for the UFO day. But Instagram is

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where I actually communicate with people and it's my easiest

1190
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,520
source of that's what I run, the Instagram and then

1191
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,159
kind of let Facebook run itself.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Very good guys, everybody. If you're interested

1193
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,239
in more information on each of these events, they are

1194
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:44,800
in the show notes as well as the link tree

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,159
for Cryptid Comforts, where I think you have pretty much

1196
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,399
all those listed as well, because you know, and all

1197
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,880
the other events that you're going to be at.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,079
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'm going to be at a lot, I think.

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I God, how many did I end up with? Thirty

1200
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:02,000
or so this year? Like I went a little overboard. Yeah,

1201
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:04,279
So will I see you at HODAGG this year?

1202
01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:07,399
Speaker 2: No, we have we have our event that the weekend

1203
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,119
before and uh we're we're taking a break from it.

1204
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 3: So all right, well be definitely. I'll be in Rynlander soon.

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome. H I forgot what I was gonna say there,

1206
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,880
but yeah, uh hold egg is coming up. As you said,

1207
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,399
it's the third weekend of May in seventeen. Yes, I

1208
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,359
think so sixteen seventeenth.

1209
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that weekend whatever that Saturday is.

1210
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:42,399
Speaker 2: That's always always a fun event and so so cool

1211
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,840
to see so many of these smaller towns and stuff

1212
01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:49,079
endorse their cryptids and the folklore. I mean, you have

1213
01:12:49,119 --> 01:12:51,199
Frogman Festival you kind of mentioned a little bit.

1214
01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:52,399
Speaker 3: I love that line.

1215
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 2: You have the hod Egg squonk all these you know,

1216
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,640
like one off Van Meter Visitor Festival as well.

1217
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: That's another one of my favorite.

1218
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,279
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's so cool to see so many

1219
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:07,840
different small towns and stuff, you know, popularizing these because

1220
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,319
a lot of them are always just the Bigfoot festival

1221
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:10,800
or just.

1222
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:14,159
Speaker 3: I don't even do big feed festivals anymore because I

1223
01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:17,760
go to all the weird ones, so all the very

1224
01:13:18,039 --> 01:13:21,399
specific cryptid ones, those are like, yeah, I'll do that,

1225
01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:24,640
that sounds fun, green Eyes and but yeah Van Meeter,

1226
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,640
I've been doing. This is my sixth year doing that one.

1227
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,800
I think. I love that event. And it's it's the

1228
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,520
smallest event I think that I do. There's only like

1229
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,520
maybe twenty vendors total. Uh So it's a it's a

1230
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,640
smaller event and I love it. And the vibes there

1231
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,159
are always so good.

1232
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: Cool, very cool man awesome what we are at the

1233
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,560
end here, So I want to thank you again so

1234
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,479
much for coming on and thank you for you know,

1235
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,079
keeping these these cryptids in the spotlight and bringing some

1236
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:02,319
you know much need love to all the weirder one

1237
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:03,279
offs and stuff.

1238
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: So that's what I do.

1239
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: Very cool, awesome. Well you have you have a great

1240
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,199
day and we will sure I will see you around

1241
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:16,039
this year sometime, so hopefully all right, take care bye.

1242
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:20,079
All right, guys, that is our show for this week.

1243
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:22,239
Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Remember to

1244
01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:25,439
go check out all the awesome events Lisa and Crypti

1245
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,439
Coomforts go to all over the United States, everywhere from

1246
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,640
coast to coast. She's going to be at stuff, so

1247
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,079
if she're in the area, go check it out. She's

1248
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:36,880
probably gonna be there. But otherwise, head on over and

1249
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,640
check out all of her wonderful events that she runs,

1250
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:45,880
everything from UFO Day to the Squawkapalooza and Fearsome Folklore Festival.

1251
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,880
So if you want more information, head on over to

1252
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,159
her link tree. It's in the show notes. Until next time, guys,

1253
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:54,199
remember thank you so much for tuning in. Remember to like,

1254
01:14:54,199 --> 01:14:56,800
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1255
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,600
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1256
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,279
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1257
01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:03,439
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1258
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,119
wisconsincaps dot com. Until next time, guys, I'll see you

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on the edge.

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