WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.200 Baby, you are my game statue. It takes a little tangle. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:05.519 You don't want to. 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:06.599 Mess with me? 4 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:07.240 Mess with me? 5 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:09.199 Baby a gangsta too? 6 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:16.359 Ohuch baby game statoo. 7 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:26.800 For good warnings, This podcast is designed to take you 8 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.839 outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 9 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:35.880 Listening Discretion is a vibe. 10 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:39.679 What the fellas? 11 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.799 This ain't my first time at the rodeos. 12 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:19.359 Mm hm, Welcome to the Occult Rejects. 13 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.640 This episode we got a very very very special guest, 14 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:25.959 but before we get to him, we're gonna have to 15 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.480 introduce all of the eight. 16 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.879 Of them, the Rejects with us tonight before we get 17 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:30.200 to Mark. 18 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:35.079 All right, so let's start with Lisa, cult reject, mad scientist. 19 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:35.680 What is going on? 20 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:39.680 Lisa, how's it going? Looking very forward to this conversation, 21 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:44.319 Very very huge fan of Dermanic occultism, so I am 22 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:48.680 very excited to talk about it, and especially with their guest, 23 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.719 Mark and everyone in the Occult Rejects. The only thing 24 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.799 I want to plug is the Occult Research Institute dot org. 25 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.439 If you like to consume some of your content literarily, 26 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.239 please check it out. Quote research is too, title work awesome. 27 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:05.920 Thank you very much. And next we have Frida, Jena, Ninja, 28 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.159 what's going on? Frida? What's up? 29 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:08.639 Cardinal? 30 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.639 So you can find me at Wukong Reborn, where I 31 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:18.199 am Twitter notorious, slash YouTube notorious over six hundred thousand views. 32 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:22.639 Let me just say so, I my famous wild mout 33 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.400 clip obviously infamous. 34 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.599 Uh, that's right. 35 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.159 We don't worship husks in this house. 36 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.800 Yeah, sorry, Oh that's okay. And so if you want 37 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.599 to follow the show, you can follow the ath Threshold, Saints, 38 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.319 ig and Twitter. And my show is about uh, speculative 39 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.680 serial experiments and speculative ontology. Sorry about that. So yeah, 40 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.240 you can just look for me, and uh, We've got 41 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.599 lots coming up. And thank you guys so much. Thank 42 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:54.639 you Nick, thank you Lisa, thank you to the whole crew. 43 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.439 Thank you Markin of course, of course we got Julia 44 00:02:58.520 --> 00:02:59.719 the Cosmic Pete joined us. 45 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:00.520 What is going on? 46 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:02.319 What's up? 47 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.240 I'm excited for this one. Thanks for having me as 48 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:11.520 usual Cosmic Peach podcast where we listen to podcasts. 49 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:16.120 Also, thank you very much, Julia. And next we got Ricardo. 50 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:19.120 What is going on? Sir? How are you good? 51 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:19.439 Evening? 52 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.479 Everyone? Thank you for having me once more here and I'm 53 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:27.080 looking forward to learn from mac today. As for me, 54 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:29.800 I'm a multi disciplinary researcher. You can find me at 55 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.439 X at Ricardo Calvary one as it is in the screen, 56 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.680 and please check out the Institute for Natalphilosophy dot org 57 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:41.400 where you can either check our magazine Pharaohs or just 58 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.520 see if you want to work with us in something. 59 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.919 Just fill in the professional positions and we'll get in 60 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:52.400 touch with you. So thank you for thanking me. 61 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.000 Of course, of course, always love having you on Ricardo. 62 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:56.639 Hey we got eat An Indigo. 63 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:57.520 What is going on? 64 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.199 So want to be here with everyone. 65 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.360 This is going to be exciting Ethan Indigo Smith on 66 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.599 all the usual social media article recently on Occult Research 67 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:15.039 Institute and yeah more to com on the esoteric and esoteric. 68 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.040 And again appreciate everyone. 69 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.519 Well, I always appreciate you coming on. 70 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:22.240 And we got the man himself. It's been a minute, 71 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.920 finally got him on. Time's worked out, align the stars aligned. 72 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.399 We got the man, Robbie Marks the storyteller on tonight. 73 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.040 What is going on? 74 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.160 Robbie, Oh, just cranking, trying to get out. We're getting 75 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:34.959 out the door for the summer and like a week 76 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:38.720 and a half. But yeah, I'm our Marx. I'm an 77 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.160 artist illustrator and I've been researching for about thirty five years. 78 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.040 And if you want to check out my art or 79 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.079 my podcast, then that a mind cast or follow me 80 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.120 on any of the social media. You can go to 81 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:55.319 my link tree, which is link tree at R M 82 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.759 A r X R Marx and that'll pull up everything 83 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:00.120 for you. 84 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:01.079 Thank thank you very much, Robbie. 85 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.360 And we got Jewels from Great Pilled Podcasts joining us 86 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:06.839 tonight as well. What is up, Jewels. I'm glad you 87 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:08.519 got on as well. I know I've been bugging you 88 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.600 lately and we made this happen as well. Oh you might, 89 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.160 You're beauty. You muted it, Bud, Sorry you muted. He's 90 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:16.199 like fun, I gotta settle over. 91 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.759 Oh thank you, Nick, I'm always muted. Thank you for 92 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.800 having me on again. I appreciate it. Man, it's good 93 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:27.959 to see you, Lisa, Ricardo, Ethan and of course Mark, 94 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:30.360 you know, shouts out Mark, what's up? 95 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:30.600 Mark? 96 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.279 It's good to meet Jen, Robert and Julia. 97 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:39.000 So yeah, man, Uh, looking forward to the conversation tonight 98 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.120 and uh what one unfold? 99 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.399 As JJ would say, it's going to be a barn burner, 100 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:44.920 but uh. 101 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.600 Yeah, you found me at Great Pilled Pod on Twitter. 102 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.279 I'm on Patreon, rumble go there if you really want 103 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.680 to find me, If you really want to find me, Yeah, 104 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:57.759 go there? 105 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:03.600 Uh is it? Yeah? All right? Yeah, thank you very much, Jules. 106 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:07.000 Oh, now, about five minutes in the guests, I already 107 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.759 forgot what the topic is. At this point, we got 108 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.639 the one and only Mark from my family thinks it's 109 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.519 crazy joining us tonight to talk about dramatic occultism. 110 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:16.519 What is going on? 111 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:16.920 Mark? 112 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.040 Please let everybody know who doesn't know who you are, 113 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:21.040 what is up with you? Where they can find all 114 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:22.040 your amazing work. Please? 115 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:27.199 Oh wow, thank you. You really pulled out all the 116 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:32.040 stops for me here tonight, and I appreciate it well 117 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:37.879 a long time coming here on the Occult Rejects. Sorry 118 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.519 if I start talking like Trump. I was hanging out 119 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:44.959 with my Fox News watching grandparents today. But anyways, my 120 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.480 family thinks I'm crazy. That's the name of my podcast 121 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.160 and it's a true statement. So if you're obsessed with weird, 122 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:57.759 strange stuff, your family probably thinks you're crazy too. So 123 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.000 listen to my podcast and pick a few tips. Because 124 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.959 I've been dealing with it since I first was able 125 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:10.480 to utter a thoughtful sentence, so always always getting questions 126 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.040 from people, why why are you looking into that? 127 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:13.959 What? 128 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:18.959 And then sure enough it actually paid off fifteen years later. 129 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:24.160 So here we are talking about a topic that sort 130 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.800 of came out of the blue for me and the 131 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:31.680 grand scheme of things, but now has somewhat become an 132 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.800 obsession in some ways. 133 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.680 Very obsessed with and Nazis and all that shit. 134 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:41.759 So I get it right, Yeah, it's it's it's something 135 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:47.560 that affects the entirety of Western civilization hosts a certain 136 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:51.439 time period that we'll get into. So yeah, it's it's 137 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.920 got big implications, and it could be a little bit 138 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.959 of my own bias, you know, when you start holding 139 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.759 a hammer everything because and nail that kind of logic. 140 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.279 But there's there's a lot of there's a lot of 141 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.199 interesting stuff that I hope we can get into tonight. 142 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.519 So yeah, I can kick it off now, or I 143 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.959 can pass it on to someone else and we can 144 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:20.040 ask questions. But I mean, essentially, the phrase Germanic occultism 145 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.720 is like the phrase American fast food. 146 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.800 Okay, that's a good way to put it. 147 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.560 Actually, Yeah, that's that's that's kind of like my what 148 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.759 do you call it in college? Your thesis statement? Right, So, 149 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:38.159 as you'll see today, Germany has played a big role 150 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:47.759 in this sort of strange part of culture. So where 151 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:51.440 should we start. I'll take this silence and pause to 152 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.480 light this up. For me, it started in New Haven, Connecticut, 153 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.879 where one way or another I started looking into Scull 154 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:06.600 and Bones, the fraternity at Yale, and the pervading rumor, 155 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:15.559 although it's not particularly substantiated, but there's enough for me 156 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.879 to feel confident. But the rumor is that scull and 157 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:24.519 Bones is the second chapter of a German order, the 158 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.679 Order of Skull and Bones. And somewhere in the Scull 159 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:32.240 and Bones tomb at Yale University, I believe, over the 160 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:38.759 fireplace on the second floor, there's a painting or a picture, 161 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.679 maybe an old time picture of a skull and some 162 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.080 other things on a table, something like this, and the 163 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:53.080 phrase in German that says, you know, we were beggars, 164 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.840 we were kings, we were gods, we were fools, but 165 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:01.399 in the end we're all the same, right to that effect, basically, 166 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:06.960 death the great equalizer. So as I studied Skull and 167 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.840 Bones and looked into you know, what is this all 168 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:14.360 about you know, why does Yale University have a strange 169 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:21.960 contingency of very wealthy and powerful and connected and wealthy 170 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.480 like mego wealthy people and they're all going through this 171 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.799 one small group that only takes fifteen people per senior class. 172 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:37.039 So here we are German occultism. Because if Skull and 173 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.480 Bones is the second chapter of something that started in Germany, 174 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.080 well what's going on in Germany? 175 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:43.399 Right? 176 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.759 So we can save skull and Bones and all that 177 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:52.480 fascinating stuff for another conversation. But when I looked into 178 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.759 you know, what is Germany and what is German occultism, 179 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:01.519 it was like you know that meme where Charlie has 180 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.679 like all this stuff on the wall with the lines 181 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.600 and it's going crazy. But if like a dump truck 182 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.720 of papers came through the door at the same time, like, 183 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.000 there's a lot. And that's mainly because Germany, it's younger 184 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.519 as a country than America is. They didn't exist when 185 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.639 America was formed. They were city states and small kingdoms, 186 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.759 emperors and all sorts of political YadA YadA that got 187 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:42.360 basically consolidated, consolidated up into and after particularly World War One. 188 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:46.279 So again, like I said before, we started the conversation. 189 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.559 We're not going to talk much about the Nazis because 190 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.000 there is so much to talk about. It pertains to 191 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:59.080 Germany just prior to excuse me, world War one, and again, 192 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.639 World War one was kind of what created Germany as 193 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.879 a country in many ways, but before that it was 194 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:13.360 a hodgepodge of different types of government. One of the 195 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:19.159 most famous is the Bavaria, right, this little place called Bavaria, 196 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:24.840 which created the Bavarian Illuminati. And some people have said, well, 197 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.159 that must be the first chapter of the Order of 198 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:32.279 Skull and Bones. I don't think it's that simple. So 199 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.600 with Germany again, you have to understand it's only been 200 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:40.519 a country for a couple centuries, and on top of that, 201 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:45.879 there were all these pretty wealthy, powerful people in that area. 202 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.120 It's kind of at the center of Europe, the heart 203 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:55.159 of Europe. It's above this major obstacle in Europe, which 204 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:59.879 is the Alps. Right, so the Alps have kind of 205 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:06.840 left Western Europe, France, Spain, itally, even this sort of 206 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:14.080 you know, stew in somewhat isolation at certain periods of history. 207 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.039 Obviously there's different waves of people that have come in, 208 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.679 but at a certain time in European history, a lot 209 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.080 of the people living in these regions around the Alps 210 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:29.519 where either Germanic peoples or had some connection to Germanic peoples. 211 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:32.960 And really, when you start looking at well, what is 212 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.639 you know, this occultism, where does it start? It starts 213 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:43.720 with runs. Okay, Now, obviously the Germans don't have single 214 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.840 claim on ruins. Ruins are found in multiple different European cultures. 215 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.720 In some way might argue that they're in Asian cultures 216 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:57.080 as well. But the concept of the run is very 217 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:04.840 similar to the Hebrew concept that essentially forms the Kabbala 218 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:10.480 with its numerical alphabet, and these same concepts are mirrored 219 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:15.639 in the ruins in the sense that the notes are 220 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:21.360 multi dimensional, they mean more than just the sound that 221 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:25.360 you are to utter when you read it. So, in 222 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:30.039 that way, the language base of many of what we 223 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:35.320 now think of as the sort of Anglo Saxon, that 224 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.159 kind of the groups of people that kind of were 225 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.159 molded and shaped by what now we call English. Right, 226 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.440 Germany is a precursor to English. There's a couple of 227 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:51.000 other lost languages that are in those sort of I 228 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:55.080 don't know the tree going to it, YadA, YadA, YadA, 229 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:00.320 anything that you look at as far as pagan be 230 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:06.080 a cult in England, it's all connected to this sort 231 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:11.360 of singular Runic origin. Now some people talk about this 232 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:16.039 coming from the Tuata day done in which you can 233 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.360 interpret maybe as the fallen Angels. There's other people that 234 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.480 go a step further and have other interpretations of that. 235 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.600 There's also the again the melting pot of Germany. There's 236 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.039 all these influences coming in from the South, from the 237 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:37.240 Middle East, from Egypt, right, so a lot of mixing, 238 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:40.600 and what you get is this sort of you know, 239 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:45.919 culture of people who have a little bit of something 240 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:50.360 from a lot of different places, and over time what 241 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.200 you get are these people who are kind of like 242 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.240 knowledge traders, right, Like they're in the center, so as 243 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.200 people are moving through their area, that becomes sort of 244 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:09.039 like the you know, key cultural value of those areas 245 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.960 is that they're accumulating the knowledge of the people who 246 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.960 are passing through to trade and make their way from 247 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.320 Europe to the Holy Land and then back from the 248 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.120 Holy Land to wherever they're from in Europe. And you know, 249 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:30.320 again this great exchange all of the wisdom, knowledge, scientific 250 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:36.519 innovation from the Arabic Renaissance, which was going on during 251 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:44.120 the Dark Ages, right, So Europe was basically suppressed by 252 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.600 the powers that be at the time, and because of that, 253 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.879 these innovations were not shared with Europe on a large scale. 254 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:56.080 And then when these crusades started happening, it was like 255 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:01.440 the floodgates opened. Right now, all of this to say, 256 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:04.400 and I'm going to pause and let you guys ask questions, 257 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.240 all of this created what we now think of as 258 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:15.960 the university system. Okay, so this, the origin of what 259 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.599 we now think of as a university is in this 260 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.920 region that we now call Germany, and it was these 261 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:28.359 learned people who were in some ways trying to create 262 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:32.640 political power with this, right the Holy Roman Empire, which 263 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.119 some people have said wasn't holy, it wasn't Roman, and 264 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.119 it wasn't really an empire. Right. So again you have 265 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:44.240 this kind of weird identity crisis with and this is 266 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.160 you know what people talk about when the Nazi conversation 267 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.839 comes up. You have this really strange identity crisis too 268 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.240 going on in these regions where you know, they're not 269 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:57.519 exactly German, Like what that means to be German is 270 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.720 kind of like a fabricated being in the same way 271 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.319 that you know, what it means to be American has 272 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.599 been sort of created over the and shaped and changed 273 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.599 over the past. You know, four hundred years of history 274 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.839 in America. Well, in Germany it's a smaller period of 275 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:18.200 time and they have a much larger history base to 276 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.559 go off of. So what happens again with the the Nazis, 277 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.519 which I'm not so well versed in, but what you'll 278 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.200 learn when you when you type in German occultism is 279 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.599 you'll get hit with the Nazis and you'll you'll learn 280 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:36.079 that Well, the Nazis they wanted to you know, sway 281 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:41.279 the people, So they built up this mytho poetical propaganda. 282 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:46.359 They created the idea of the Ubermensch, and they used 283 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:49.720 the myths and legends that were popular to the folk people, 284 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.839 and they created this idea of a superior German Man. 285 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:59.599 And this was the basis of the political fearvor that 286 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:04.960 the you're you know, upheaved right, So in that sense, 287 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.160 you know, there's a there's a truth to that, but 288 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.200 then there's also a denial of of the other factors 289 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.559 when you just look at that. So again, we don't 290 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.680 need to spend really any time talking about the Nazi stuff, 291 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:24.599 but it does really have its roots in this time 292 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:28.680 period of Germany, which we now talk about as the 293 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.200 age of the Teutonic Knights. Right, So the Teutonic Knights 294 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.759 were kind of like a more organized version of the 295 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:44.359 Knights Templar, and they became in essence the learned men 296 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:51.960 who developed rose Crucianism. Okay, rose a Crucianism was a 297 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:58.839 very very secretive, very unreal in the sense that people 298 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.920 could kind of just tend to be one, and you 299 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:05.720 know some people might you know, not be one at all, 300 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:08.160 but other people later in time were like, oh, yeah, 301 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.519 he was a Rosicrucian because they wanted to, you know, 302 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:17.039 boost themselves up by association. But either way, this culture 303 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:23.319 that was growing in that area became again the university system, 304 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:29.960 and then conversely, in England it became Freemasonry. And this 305 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:35.359 is important because that gets into why World War One happened. 306 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:36.920 So we don't have to get to that right now 307 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.160 because I just said a lot. But essentially what you 308 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:45.440 have in Germany is a secret culture of people who 309 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:52.640 don't really feel maybe necessarily nationalistic because their nation is 310 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:58.240 so young, and maybe they have patriotic or patriarchal ties 311 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.720 that go deeper. And this is where the culture of 312 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:06.559 secret societies really flourishes, right because you have people who 313 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.759 are used to the old system, a new system is 314 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.640 imposed on them, and what do they do. They go 315 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:18.079 underground so they can maintain those older structures of power. 316 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.799 It connects to the Crusades, It goes back to the 317 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.960 time of Pagans again with the Ruins, and if you 318 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.720 look up like Teutonic paganism, you're going to find a 319 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:38.000 lot of neo pagan stuff, which is arguably synthetic in 320 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.119 the sense that it's a synthesis of new stuff, like 321 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.279 a lot of the New Age is. But what you 322 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:50.559 have to realize is that this country, Germany produced some 323 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:57.519 of the brilliant people that changed what became the twentieth century. 324 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.960 So again the German and people and everything that happened 325 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:06.400 with Hitler. As a conspiracy theorist, we might argue that, well, 326 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:11.720 obviously they wanted to, you know, get some rains on 327 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:16.240 this machine before it, you know, ran a muck and 328 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.039 became a behemoth or these. And again I'm not a 329 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.519 Nazi sympathizer in any way, but there's also the argument 330 00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:28.960 that you know this was these people were not what 331 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.000 they history tells us they are, and they had an 332 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:37.279 idealistic goal in mind, and the whole issue with the 333 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.400 Jews was not and so on and so forth. Right, 334 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.400 So there's a lot of conspiracies there. Again, I'm not 335 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.720 an expert in any of that, but I think it's 336 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:53.359 important to understand the prehistory of what became Nazi Germany 337 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.759 in order to really understand what we're going through today, 338 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:01.440 because the terms Nazi have not died, like, people still 339 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:06.880 use that term in a pejorative way, and you know, 340 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.880 in a sense, it's kind of ironic because the people 341 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:16.240 who practice socialism will then turn and call people who 342 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:23.799 they consider republican or fascist Trump, They'll call them not Nazis, 343 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.759 right even though their you know, ideology is very much 344 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.359 in line with the national socialism and YadA, YadA, YadA. 345 00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.079 So there's a lot of strange stuff going on. And 346 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.240 I think once you start to understand the nineteenth century 347 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:44.319 and the sort of foreshadowing of World War One, it 348 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.119 starts to make sense why Germany at some point in 349 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.359 time became a target. Right. It was never a country 350 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.640 of its own with its own history, so it became 351 00:23:54.880 --> 00:24:00.200 a target, you know, basically by smaller countries around that, 352 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:05.119 people who were within Germany who didn't feel again nationalistic 353 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.920 towards this new nation state idea, and in the age 354 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:14.559 of imperialism, a lot of people were like corporations, fuck 355 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:20.000 the government. Like this whole atheistic anarchist sentiment really came 356 00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.720 from that time period when children were being forced to 357 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:27.960 work in I mean horrible conditions and that was the 358 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:32.279 foundation that created their lives. So the children who grew 359 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.279 up working in those conditions, what do you think their 360 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:40.559 children ended up like? Right, So it's a degradation along 361 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:44.160 with the progress that's been made. Right, It's sort of 362 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:49.559 a bell curve kind of situation. But yeah, I think 363 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:56.720 the secret societies eventually just divorced themselves from this idea 364 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.359 of being attached to any nation, and it was really 365 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.079 convenient to do it in a place like Germany where 366 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.279 things were kind of young and people again didn't feel 367 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:11.200 this connection. Necessarily, all of that had to be kind 368 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.519 of stirred up by these propagandists that were part of 369 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:18.200 the Nazis. And again, now you try to look up 370 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.799 some of this German occultism stuff, and it's very murky 371 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.200 because you get a lot of stuff about the Nazis, 372 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:30.480 but Faust this, I mean, this is like kind of 373 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:35.200 the benchmark and a lot of the stuff he wrote. 374 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:38.480 I might be mixing his name with one of his plays. 375 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.359 I always do that with Faust. It's either the name 376 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:41.960 of play. 377 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.640 Yeah it is a play, it's by Gerta or Goth 378 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:46.559 g O T HG. 379 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:53.000 I'm thinking, so go, thank you, so Gota Gerta as 380 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.640 the German, as a as an untrained Englishman, I say 381 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.519 Goth But he was was very much a pillar. When 382 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.680 I talk about the influence that Germany had on the 383 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.559 rest of the world, and how they carried this idea 384 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:16.799 of occultism into Western civilization and it really became part 385 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.400 and parcel to the way we see the world now 386 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.640 and how it's kind of split up and rational materialism 387 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:28.559 and super zealous religious and everything in between. This is 388 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:34.240 that Hegelian dialect that you know, Hegel inspired so many 389 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:39.720 with who were in that area. George Hegel another interesting 390 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:44.279 character who was at some university in Germany. I think 391 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.119 I said five or ten minutes ago that I was 392 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:47.160 going to pause, so. 393 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.000 I was like shit, I was like, you said one 394 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:52.519 more thing, I think it's been like three I'm like, 395 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:53.240 I'm gonna stop. 396 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.240 I have a lot of stuff that goes along with that. 397 00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.200 As far as Prussia, when you look at all the 398 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:05.960 surrounding duchies Pomeranian, you had the Habsburg line that was 399 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.079 basically working for the Roman Empire and they were coming 400 00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:12.640 in and slowly crushing out all these small duchies and 401 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.319