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Speaker 2: looking out the iHeart Studios here, the trees are shaking,
Speaker 2: the wind is blowing, and it looks like rain's coming
Speaker 2: anytime now, so the drive home should be a blast.
Speaker 2: But hey, we got a Nuggets game to watch tonight,
Speaker 2: so we can all hunker down on our bunkers and
Speaker 2: hopefully watch the Nuggets win a game one. And we
Speaker 2: know that the AF season ended last week, but you know, regardless,
Speaker 2: still got one team in the playoffs, and we're not
Speaker 2: a sports show. So I'll get off that at this point.
Speaker 2: But as we went to break, we were talking about
Speaker 2: sanctuary state and the state of Colorado. What is this state?
Speaker 2: Is it a sanctuary state? Is it not? By definition?
Speaker 2: And I asked you guys, call in tell me what
Speaker 2: you think. Text in start your text with Dan at
Speaker 2: five seven seventy three nine or call in three h
Speaker 2: three seven one three eight two five five. And speaking
Speaker 2: of callers, we have Rob from Longma. He's waded through
Speaker 2: the break.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 2: How are you doing.
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, sir? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great, Rob. What do you have to say to
Speaker 2: us today?
Speaker 3: Well, I think we can definitely say that Colorado is
Speaker 3: the sanctuary state.
Speaker 5: And I think what really picked it.
Speaker 3: Into gear was old Bill Ritter and his refusing to
Speaker 3: charge people in the country illegally with immigration issues and
Speaker 3: would just charge them with agricultural trespass.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do remember that trend happening, and I don't even
Speaker 2: remember what his his argument was for doing so, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it was basically to avoid any kind of
Speaker 2: any kind of acknowledgement that there might be an a
Speaker 2: legal immigration issue, if my memory serves me.
Speaker 5: Right, and I believe that would be correct. I don't
Speaker 5: even recall when he was.
Speaker 6: Sitting as governor.
Speaker 5: I want to say it was mid nineties. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it seems to me he's the one that really kind
Speaker 5: of got this ball rolling, and when Hickenlooper got in there,
Speaker 5: that really expedieted things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well Polus has been a real gift to
Speaker 2: this state as far as as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: these last six years, six plus years with his leadership,
Speaker 2: and I say that very much in air quotes, has
Speaker 2: just been a dumpster fire. At least hicken Looper still
Speaker 2: had a little modicum of understanding of hey, we got
Speaker 2: to have some balance with oil and gas industry, we
Speaker 2: got to have a little bit of balance with the
Speaker 2: rule of law. Polus just threw that stuff right out
Speaker 2: the window and Ridder before him. I just think he
Speaker 2: was he was just weak sauce the whole way through.
Speaker 5: Well, well, welcome to the the asylum.
Speaker 2: So if you had to say, this is the one
Speaker 2: thing I noticed when I'm driving around Colorado that says, yep,
Speaker 2: Colorado is a sanctuary state. What is that thing you
Speaker 2: see or can you point to that one thing?
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I'm a world county resident okay.
Speaker 4: And if I see a mid nineties s box of.
Speaker 3: A vehicle with different color paint primer, very poorly tinted
Speaker 3: windows and no license plates.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm profiling, but I'm profiling.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. That's a fair assessment.
Speaker 2: You know. The way I see it in Weld County
Speaker 2: is when you see the guys that are selling oranges
Speaker 2: on the side of the road, usually in the city
Speaker 2: of Greeley, but sometimes they try to venture out into
Speaker 2: the county. That's not that's not something you typically saw
Speaker 2: up until maybe the last year eighteen months. And you know,
Speaker 2: the roadside what I call, you know, fruit vendors. That
Speaker 2: that to me, that's that's a bridge too far. Obviously.
Speaker 3: Well, in my ao, we have an occasional uh selling
Speaker 3: flowers in the middle of the county road intersection, which
Speaker 3: it is. I don't know how far away from anybody it.
Speaker 5: Is, but it's it's a good stretch. I doubt there's
Speaker 5: a lot of romance occurring.
Speaker 2: There's you know them their caps fair enough, Rob, thanks
Speaker 2: for calling in from Longmont. Appreciate the phone call. And
Speaker 2: again we got plenty of lines open. Number here is
Speaker 2: three oh three seven one, three eight two five five.
Speaker 2: I love having the conversations with you, getting your perspective
Speaker 2: from wherever you're at in the state of Colorado, because
Speaker 2: as we know, Colorado is a large state and very,
Speaker 2: very diverse. What you see in Denver, you don't necessarily
Speaker 2: see in Weld County or Colorado Springs or Pueblo or
Speaker 2: anywhere else. And quite frankly, every time I've hosted this show,
Speaker 2: the callers from pub have flooded in today, though they're
Speaker 2: being silent. Going back to the text wall here, Yes,
Speaker 2: Colorado is a sanctuary state, as evidenced by the punishment
Speaker 2: that that truck driver received in the I seventy crash
Speaker 2: that Dan's covered many times. And then they leave a
Speaker 2: nice note here says, keep up the great work mark
Speaker 2: in Weld County, Wyoming. Boy, wouldn't that be nice Weld County, Wyoming.
Speaker 2: Cann't they talk about that riff?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: That's yeah, there was an effort by some individuals to
Speaker 2: try to get Weld County to secede or cut away
Speaker 2: and go into Wyoming. Wyoming was I guess open to
Speaker 2: the discussion. Their governor even came down and made a
Speaker 2: few talks about inviting Weld County up. I have to
Speaker 2: tell you the impacts that that would have on the
Speaker 2: state of Colorado's budget would be tremendous because about seventy
Speaker 2: to eighty percent of the oil and gas exploration in
Speaker 2: the state come out of Weld County, despite all the
Speaker 2: crap that comes out of the state capitol trying to
Speaker 2: kill the industry.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 8: And then we hear also so that after these recent
Speaker 8: elections snap elections in Canada, Alberta wanted to become the
Speaker 8: fifty first state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, go figure, I think Trump would welcome that.
Speaker 2: Why not? You know, I don't. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we want them. I mean, but you know, you used
Speaker 2: to live close to the Canadian border, is it, young man?
Speaker 2: Do you want Do you want the Canadians to become
Speaker 2: part of the United States?
Speaker 8: That's that's a loaded question because if it's Ontario, that's
Speaker 8: that's no. A lot more liberals there in Toronto and
Speaker 8: so forth. But Edmonton, Calgary, Alberta, the Calgary Stampede, that's
Speaker 8: the red state of Canada.
Speaker 7: Baby.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I have a friend who who came to
Speaker 2: the United States from Canada. One of the first times
Speaker 2: I was hosting Dan show, he made a comment about,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, bring Alberta, leave leave some of those
Speaker 2: other places. So your point is shared a couple other
Speaker 2: texts here, this person saying, hey, this is how you
Speaker 2: can tell Colorado has become a sanctuary state. Windshield cleaning
Speaker 2: on the corners. I'm assuming that's in downtown Denver and Aurora.
Speaker 2: I don't see that in in Greeley or in Welld County,
Speaker 2: but I've heard about it plenty, and you know, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, when I drive down here, I try
Speaker 2: not to stop at an intersection because I don't want
Speaker 2: whatever is in Denver or Aurora to stick to me.
Speaker 2: Another text here says, yes, Colorado is a sanctuary state.
Speaker 2: Oh we got that one a minute to go, Sorry
Speaker 2: about that. Don't you think that if Colorado got rid
Speaker 2: of all the illegal immigrants who are here, especially hard
Speaker 2: blue Denver would lose the voting Democrat majority says I
Speaker 2: feel like that's a lot of the underlying fight that's
Speaker 2: not often talked about. If those voters and air quotes leave,
Speaker 2: then maybe Colorado could come back to the red side.
Speaker 2: So that's another great question in the sanctuary state that
Speaker 2: we live in. When people can come here and get
Speaker 2: a driver's license, and there's been arguments that they've been
Speaker 2: automatically registered to vote, the question is do they vote?
Speaker 2: And I honestly don't know. I've talked to my local
Speaker 2: clerk and recorder, Carly Kappas, who got elected at the
Speaker 2: same time I did, and she's quite certain that illegal
Speaker 2: do not vote in our elections. And I've heard that
Speaker 2: from several other clerks and recorders around the state. But
Speaker 2: it always puts a pit in my stomach when you
Speaker 2: can show up here, especially now, you don't have to
Speaker 2: have any kind of proof or sign an affidavit. You
Speaker 2: have to have some kind of ID that's that could
Speaker 2: have expired within the last almost ten years, and then
Speaker 2: you can come here and get your driver's license. With
Speaker 2: the Senate Bill two seventy six, you'll be able to
Speaker 2: come in and get in state tuition even if you
Speaker 2: came here illegally. Man, it's I don't know, the state's
Speaker 2: kind of it's going haywire. When I drive through this
Speaker 2: state from all four corners of the of the state,
Speaker 2: you just see this kind of dwindling down as you
Speaker 2: get closer and closer to the Denver metro area, and
Speaker 2: then you know, you get here and you're like, gosh,
Speaker 2: what happened? Especially if you go down into the downtown area,
Speaker 2: go down around the Capitol and all these same lawmakers
Speaker 2: walk in and out of that building every day and
Speaker 2: they have the ability to turn around and say, oh,
Speaker 2: don't worry, this isn't a sanctuary state. It just makes
Speaker 2: it makes no sense whatsoever. I think we'll go ahead
Speaker 2: and take a break. When we come back, we'll finish
Speaker 2: the conversation again. You can call in three o three
Speaker 2: seven one three eight two five y five or text
Speaker 2: in five seven seven three nine start your text with Dan.
Speaker 2: And again the question of the day is is Colorado
Speaker 2: sanctuary state? Follow up question? What what do you see that?
Speaker 2: What evidence makes it that sanctuary state? So we'll cut
Speaker 2: to break. We got a caller that's on the line.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll go straight to that caller.
Speaker 2: But you're listening to the Dan Capless Show here with
Speaker 2: Will Kenny, Sheriff Steve Raims sitting in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2: Six point thirty k half.
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Speaker 9: The incidents we're limited to a handful of apartment conflict
Speaker 9: on apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our dedicated police
Speaker 9: officers have acted on those concerns a handful of problems.
Speaker 10: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
Speaker 10: apartment complexes in America we're taken over by venezuel gangs.
Speaker 10: And Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
Speaker 10: open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
Speaker 10: and they have every right to be. And I really
Speaker 10: find this exchange, Martha is sort of interesting because you
Speaker 10: seem to be more focused with nitpicking everything that Donald
Speaker 10: Trump has said rather than acknowledging that apartment complexes in
Speaker 10: the United States of America are being taken over by
Speaker 10: violent gangs. I worry so much more about that problem
Speaker 10: than anything else here. We've got to get American communities
Speaker 10: in a safe space again. And unfortunately, when you let
Speaker 10: people in by the millions, most of whom are unvetted,
Speaker 10: most of whom you don't know who they really are,
Speaker 10: you're going to have problems like this. Kamala Harris ninety
Speaker 10: four executive orders that undid Donald Trump's successful border policies.
Speaker 10: We knew this stuff would happen. It's ragged about opening
Speaker 10: the border, and now we have the consequences and we're
Speaker 10: living with it. We can do so much better, but frankly,
Speaker 10: we're not going to do better Martha, unless Donald Trump
Speaker 10: call this stuff out.
Speaker 4: I'm glad that he did.
Speaker 11: Although we were low income and barely paying our bills,
Speaker 11: we realized the need to invest in home protection and
Speaker 11: we purchased three additional handguns as six cameras in the
Speaker 11: event that we had to defend ourselves. And during June
Speaker 11: and July, the gang members slowly began to torture us
Speaker 11: through intimidation, loud arguments, physical conflicts outside our door every night, vandalizing,
Speaker 11: taking over vacant apartments on our floor, and after several
Speaker 11: confrontations with the gang members, several calls and submitting video
Speaker 11: evidence to the Aurora Police Department with no results, we
Speaker 11: gave up trying to stop them from squatting on the property.
Speaker 11: We spent the next few weeks looking for another rental,
Speaker 11: and we were unable to locate another low income property
Speaker 11: rental that didn't have the same exact issues that we
Speaker 11: were facing every day.
Speaker 2: And capitals show welcome back to the Dan Caplis show.
Speaker 2: You got Will Kenny Shirres deve Reems setting in here today.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking a lot about illegal immigration, especially
Speaker 2: in light of what kind of dropped last Friday, which
Speaker 2: is the federal government filing a lawsuit against the State
Speaker 2: of Colorado a complaint if you will, and let's see
Speaker 2: here I believe it is. Sorry, I'm flipping through pages
Speaker 2: twenty four pages long, which is interesting because at the
Speaker 2: same time, the state of Colorado is debating a bill,
Speaker 2: Senate Bill twenty five Dash two seventy six that is
Speaker 2: basically reaffirming that we are a sanctuary state, that bill
Speaker 2: being twenty nine pages long. So we're writing a law
Speaker 2: in the state of Colorado. I say, we are illustrious
Speaker 2: state legislators writing a law in Colorado to further codify
Speaker 2: that we are a sanctuary state, all the while while
Speaker 2: we're being sued by the federal government for being a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state. You just can't make this stuff up. And
Speaker 2: you know, I asked you guys, text in, call in,
Speaker 2: tell me do you think Colorado is a sanctuary state.
Speaker 2: That's kind of a rhetorical question. I mean, even if
Speaker 2: you're on the left I think you have to admit
Speaker 2: at this point Colorado is a sanctuary state. But if
Speaker 2: you got an argument the other way, I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear that too. You can text in start your text
Speaker 2: with Dan at five seven, seven, three nine, or call
Speaker 2: in three oh three seven one three eight two five
Speaker 2: y five. We had Eric on the line before we
Speaker 2: went to break, and I don't think you want to
Speaker 2: set through a commercial, so hopefully we'll call back in.
Speaker 2: But regardless, you know, if you've got a comment you
Speaker 2: want to make about where we're at with this state
Speaker 2: of illegal immigration, bring it on. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that this lawsuit filed by the Trump administration
Speaker 2: does start to reverse some of what we're seeing in
Speaker 2: this state. You know, the allegations in here are spelled
Speaker 2: out pretty pretty succinctly, and it starts with House Built
Speaker 2: nineteen eleven, twenty four, which was kind of the tipping
Speaker 2: point for law enforcement and our ability to interact with
Speaker 2: ice by essentially saying that we can't do that anymore,
Speaker 2: we can't have a meaningful relationship as sheriffs and dealing
Speaker 2: with how we're going to hand off a person who
Speaker 2: has an immigration detainer because in the state of Colorado,
Speaker 2: we just pretend like immigration detainers have no rule of law,
Speaker 2: and we're supposed to just let the illegals run out
Speaker 2: the door the minute that they postponded or they finish
Speaker 2: their time, even though there's an active want for them
Speaker 2: by Ice or Immigration, if you will to send this
Speaker 2: person back to where they came from. Some of the
Speaker 2: texts here, This one is right on point. It says,
Speaker 2: how about the fact that in the state of Colorado,
Speaker 2: as law enforcement officers, we aren't even allowed to ask
Speaker 2: someone's legal status. That is the truth that could be pertinent,
Speaker 2: That could be very meaningful in a criminal investigation, especially
Speaker 2: if you're talking to someone and you want to find
Speaker 2: out if they're a flight risk. You're not supposed to
Speaker 2: ask them if they're here legally. A clarifying text for
Speaker 2: the one that was sent in earlier, talking about windshield
Speaker 2: cleaning on the corners, I said, I assume that's Denver, Aurora.
Speaker 2: That text are sent back in says no, it's in Thornton,
Speaker 2: not where I thought we would be talking about. Another
Speaker 2: one here says this from Alexi. She says, I remember
Speaker 2: the ICE agent Corey Vorhees enlightening us on how they
Speaker 2: were prosecuting illegal immigrants only for agricultural trespassing. That goes
Speaker 2: back to the comments from one of our callers about
Speaker 2: Bill Ritter when he was the governor of the state
Speaker 2: of Colorado. You know, we've just we've gone all over
Speaker 2: the board here about you know, our stands in the
Speaker 2: state of Colorado and what we're going to do to
Speaker 2: uphold the citizens rights. Instead, we've we've leaned so far
Speaker 2: over that we're we're just we're defending the illegals that
Speaker 2: are here again, text in, call in. You can text
Speaker 2: in at five seven, seven, three nine, start to text
Speaker 2: that with Dan, or you can call in at three
Speaker 2: oh three seven one, three eight two five five. But
Speaker 2: when we started the show, I had Dick Wadhams on
Speaker 2: a little bit of a change in gears here. I
Speaker 2: asked Dick to come on because there's been a transition
Speaker 2: in the in the Republican Party from the Dave Williams
Speaker 2: chairmanship over to the Brita Horn chairmanship, and there's been
Speaker 2: a little bit of a controversy about you know, hey,
Speaker 2: is this party going to be able to redeem itself?
Speaker 2: And some of the people that we're very big fans
Speaker 2: of Dave have been texting me and through social media
Speaker 2: saying that I'm attacking the guy, or that I'm going
Speaker 2: after Dave Williams and his time in the chairmanship. I
Speaker 2: never once said anything cross about Dave Williams. I haven't
Speaker 2: said anything cross about him here. I think he had
Speaker 2: every right to get paid as the chairman of the
Speaker 2: Republican Party. I questioned, why wouldn't you just take that
Speaker 2: as a payment to Dave Williams as a salary instead
Speaker 2: of doing it to his consulting firm. But quite frankly,
Speaker 2: there's probably a tax benefit in doing that, and I
Speaker 2: don't really care. He had the right to take a payment.
Speaker 2: What I'm interested in is, okay, is it normal for
Speaker 2: a chairman to spend down the funds before they turn
Speaker 2: over the reins to a new person. We had Dick
Speaker 2: Wadhams on to kind of explain, Hey, sometimes you actually
Speaker 2: take over being in the hole. So what Dave's team
Speaker 2: has done and setting the brit of Horn administration up
Speaker 2: with some funds probably makes a lot of sense. So
Speaker 2: we got just a couple of minutes, We'll get to
Speaker 2: Scott here from glenn Dale he's got some questions on
Speaker 2: gun rights, Scott, what do you got fors Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: go for it.
Speaker 4: That's Scott.
Speaker 6: Can I carry a.
Speaker 4: Handgun in my car loaded?
Speaker 2: Absolutely you can. But I will tell you that jurisdiction
Speaker 2: by jurisdiction, there are some questions about whether or not
Speaker 2: a municipality, a state locality could change the law individually
Speaker 2: for that particular town or city. There was a change
Speaker 2: in state law a couple I think a couple of
Speaker 2: cycles ago that said, each each political subdivision can create
Speaker 2: their own gun laws. They can ignore reciprocity. So the
Speaker 2: question of that is you need to know where you're going.
Speaker 2: In Well County, you're totally good. You can carry a
Speaker 2: loaded gun in your car and be totally legal to
Speaker 2: do so. I can't tell you that applies equally everywhere
Speaker 2: in the state. But thanks for the call, Scott. Sorry
Speaker 2: we're cutting a little short. We've got a hard break here.
Speaker 2: If you're listening to the Dan Kaplis show here on
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show with well kind
Speaker 2: of shaff Steve Raims on the line here filling in
Speaker 2: for Dan. We're gonna try to get to a caller
Speaker 2: here in just a second that's gonna give us some
Speaker 2: clarification about the Dave Williams regime switch over to the
Speaker 2: Britta Horn regime, and then we're just gonna put this
Speaker 2: whole discussion to bad afterwards, because what I want to
Speaker 2: do is get Republicans rowing in the right direction. And
Speaker 2: we've had a lot of information come out from the
Speaker 2: Dave Williams camp for the last two years that you know,
Speaker 2: has been criticized from one side or the other. Now
Speaker 2: we have the Brittahorn administration coming in to run the
Speaker 2: Republican Party and we have some criticism there. And the
Speaker 2: handoff of the funds from one group to the next
Speaker 2: has been I guess questionable in the way that it's
Speaker 2: been advertised out to the public as to where the
Speaker 2: funds legit, where things spent the correct way, And when
Speaker 2: I boiled down and look through the numbers, I can't
Speaker 2: see that anything illegal was done. There was a question
Speaker 2: of why Dave didn't just take a salary instead of
Speaker 2: switching things over to his hit, his firm, his you know,
Speaker 2: his side business, if you will. But quite frankly, there
Speaker 2: was probably a tax break there. So to clear things up,
Speaker 2: we have a gentleman who I don't think I've met
Speaker 2: in person, but he was willing to come on the
Speaker 2: show and say, hey, uh, here's kind of the facts
Speaker 2: of the matter and set the record straight. He's the
Speaker 2: former treasurer of the Republican Party for the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2: His name is Tom b Orkland. Tom, thanks for coming
Speaker 2: on with us, and your time is valuable, so we'll
Speaker 2: try to make sure we stay on point.
Speaker 4: Thanks Tom, Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You bet.
Speaker 11: So.
Speaker 2: There was an email set out by Bretta Horn and
Speaker 2: her team I guess middle of last week. They kind
Speaker 2: of just said, hey, here's the funds that we have.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she was, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: infer that the going outgoing administration hadn't done things completely
Speaker 2: correct or if it was just a matter of you know,
Speaker 2: people jumping to conclusions. But I think you prepared a
Speaker 2: lot of the information that ended up in that email,
Speaker 2: So can you just tell us, hey, you know, here
Speaker 2: here's the way things ended, here's what here's the work
Speaker 2: you did while you were in that seat. And I
Speaker 2: know you had to do a lot of work. You're
Speaker 2: a professional accountant from what I can tell. So just
Speaker 2: tell us where we're really at, if you would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I I well, first of all, to set
Speaker 4: the state the you know, there's there's more factions within
Speaker 4: the Republican.
Speaker 2: Party, no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so bridges on, you know, apparently one of the sides.
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even say there's two sides. There's probably
Speaker 4: three or four factions within the within the party, and
Speaker 4: at various times they.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, get together.
Speaker 4: But the you know, my my experience as a as
Speaker 4: a measure for multiple campaigns, you know, goes all the
Speaker 4: way back to twenty ten when I was a treasurer
Speaker 4: for Compent Credo's campaign for the governor when he ran
Speaker 4: under the American Constitution Party. So and then interestingly enough,
Speaker 4: I was the treasurer for dave opponent when Dave ran
Speaker 4: for chairman and his opponent Eric Odland, and I endorsed Erek,
Speaker 4: and to my surprise, Dave asked me to join his
Speaker 4: you know, join the Colorado rebooking parties scheme, and so
Speaker 4: you know, I came on board with with Dave and
Speaker 4: really just working with Dave, I mean he was a
Speaker 4: consumer professional, just like with Eric. I mean, their management
Speaker 4: styles were very similar. He let me do my job,
Speaker 4: he oversaw things, and you know, he actually wasn't a
Speaker 4: signer on the account. A lot of chair chair people
Speaker 4: don't like to be signers because they don't want to
Speaker 4: be implicated if there's.
Speaker 2: Anything wrong, you know.
Speaker 4: So but but Dave was, you know, he was a
Speaker 4: he was a pro. So he kind of left things
Speaker 4: up to me to handle. And you know, and then
Speaker 4: all these during these internal battles, people started accusing him of,
Speaker 4: you know, literally stealing money. We had one of our
Speaker 4: elected people from the from the party had accused him
Speaker 4: of stealing money, and they asked me to clarify it,
Speaker 4: and you know, and I wasn't even in on the
Speaker 4: whole conversation, and they kind of roped me in and said, hey, Tom,
Speaker 4: you know there's I'm being accused of stealing money. Will
Speaker 4: you what do you have to say? And I told Aranda,
Speaker 4: she's not even having a bank account, so hard.
Speaker 2: To steal something you don't have access to right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and so uh and and then she said, uh,
Speaker 4: you know you must be in on it then. So
Speaker 4: that was the beginning all this questioning of the finances,
Speaker 4: and you know, it was a to the shock and so,
Speaker 4: you know, it just looks like it's a continuation with
Speaker 4: with with Bretta Horn. This is one faction trying to
Speaker 4: make the other faction look bad. And you know, it's
Speaker 4: there's reality and then there's politics. Unfortunately, that's that's where
Speaker 4: we're at. And then she sends out this email and
Speaker 4: you know the beginning of that is we we met
Speaker 4: on Friday, the the fourth of April. We met and
Speaker 4: she had her attorney there and uh, the young guy
Speaker 4: that are asking to be the you know, the office guy,
Speaker 4: the the executive director, I guess, and and Britta was
Speaker 4: there and and they brought in this man named Michael
Speaker 4: Wheeler who is going to be the treasurer. And so
Speaker 4: they introduced me to Michael. Michael was you know, we'd
Speaker 4: had have some interactions before and you know, he wasn't
Speaker 4: a friendly skuy in the past, but he was very
Speaker 4: professional and friendly and this meeting and you know, we
Speaker 4: just talked about how we were going to turn over
Speaker 4: the books and he lives an Eagle and I am
Speaker 4: Grant Junction, so you know, it went by Eagle and
Speaker 4: dropped off the check books to him. We went down
Speaker 4: to sign all the paperwork and get that, get the
Speaker 4: ball rolling, and you know, turn everything over. So it
Speaker 4: takes you know, it takes a good month to turn
Speaker 4: over things because there's a lot of moving parts with
Speaker 4: the party. So to me, kind of being the last
Speaker 4: guy out the door, that kind of fell on me
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: So do you feel comfortable that the books that you
Speaker 2: handed over to Britta and her team are as accurate
Speaker 2: as can possibly be? I mean, do you believe those
Speaker 2: are beyond reproach? I'm kind of putting you on the spot,
Speaker 2: but you're the guy that prepared him, So what's your opinion?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I'm I am the guy
Speaker 4: that prepared the last for the last few years. But
Speaker 4: that's you know, as far as the book's being perfect,
Speaker 4: they're other or not. And I was very upfront when
Speaker 4: I came into the meeting and I told them that
Speaker 4: we've been working on a discrepancy between the cash on
Speaker 4: hand between what they've been reporting to the FBC and
Speaker 4: what was actually in the bank and it was off
Speaker 4: by you know, six figures, and Michael asked me to
Speaker 4: put a number on it, and I said, well, you know,
Speaker 4: the more I dig, the worst kids, because you know,
Speaker 4: I'm planning errors or omissions or whatever. And as we
Speaker 4: as we reconcile those internally, the number is getting worse,
Speaker 4: not getting better. And I was really hoping to help
Speaker 4: fix that problem of that discrepancy. And so he asked
Speaker 4: me to put a number on it, and I said, well,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have all the details yet because
Speaker 4: this stills back years. It goes back before the administration,
Speaker 4: before days. Yeah, And that that came from the Mike
Speaker 4: McCauley was the guy who was filing their books. He's
Speaker 4: the CPA out of Utah, and and I had when
Speaker 4: we had taken over, when Dave took over. I emailed
Speaker 4: them and they said, hey, these books appear to be
Speaker 4: off by about one hundred thousand dollars. And he said,
Speaker 4: give me a call. And so he told me, you know,
Speaker 4: it's actually ninety five thousand and the you know, and
Speaker 4: I had been working on it, is what he said.
Speaker 4: And I didn't quite understand what he meant by that,
Speaker 4: but as I looked through the books, I kind of
Speaker 4: realized that it appeared that they were understating expenditures and
Speaker 4: or excuse the overstating expenditures which then would get reported
Speaker 4: and reduce that total and over in the midst and
Speaker 4: deposits and things and show.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So as I looked and did you know if I
Speaker 4: was going to repair that, it was gone to actually
Speaker 4: that discrepancy was going to get bigger. So I mentioned
Speaker 4: that to to Britta and I and you know, in
Speaker 4: her team. I just want to let them know heads up,
Speaker 4: you know, this is you know, full disclosure there. The
Speaker 4: books don't balance, at least on the federal side, and
Speaker 4: this is why. And you know, we we were aware
Speaker 4: of it. I reported it as soon as I found
Speaker 4: out about it. I reported it to the Federal Election Commission,
Speaker 4: that the books didn't balance. There were still incoming checks
Speaker 4: and things, so I didn't have the total of where
Speaker 4: the balance was off because frankly, we didn't get any
Speaker 4: books when when I took over. All they did was
Speaker 4: they gave the code and the Dore code, and there
Speaker 4: was you know, there were two shredders in the middle
Speaker 4: of the rooms, little pieces of paper all over the place,
Speaker 4: so we you know, we didn't get any books, so
Speaker 4: I had to kind of recreate things from bank balances
Speaker 4: and public records and.
Speaker 2: Try to not the best not the best way of
Speaker 2: doing business. Well, Tom, we could probably talk about this
Speaker 2: for days, but I think at this point I feel
Speaker 2: safe and kind of summarizing. You did the best you
Speaker 2: could to clean up the mess that you were given,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like you feel pretty confident that you've
Speaker 2: handed things off in as best condition as possible to
Speaker 2: this new administration. Look, I appreciate you being on. I
Speaker 2: know that you know it's hard to come on and
Speaker 2: try to explain financials on a radio show, But at
Speaker 2: this point, I think it's important for all these factions
Speaker 2: to just move forward and say, let's get Republicans elected.
Speaker 2: I think you could probably agree with me on that. Correct.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it would be good, but I'd
Speaker 4: like to see the discrepancy fix and I'm sure the
Speaker 4: federal election to mission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 4: But but you know, I've heard interviews, you know, in
Speaker 4: great alls and said she's only going to look at
Speaker 4: the two years and she's calling well political audit. She's
Speaker 4: turning over the books to the people who actually did
Speaker 4: Dave's opponents books for the primary, okay, and so in
Speaker 4: those that's going to be who does the forensic audit,
Speaker 4: And you know she's named air quotes forensic gotit. You know,
Speaker 4: forensic audit is really what they need in order to
Speaker 4: find that money. And I'm I'm all for a forensic
Speaker 4: on it, but I'm not in favor of a political audit.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 4: Where they're out, they're just trying to find something that
Speaker 4: they can pin on Dave, or maybe there's an error
Speaker 4: or some numbers got transposer, who knows what?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: If they find something, and then they make them out
Speaker 4: and out of amolele and try to try to distract
Speaker 4: from the bigger issue, which is there somewhere.
Speaker 2: Tom. I appreciate you coming on. We got a hard
Speaker 2: break to go to, but thanks for thanks for educating us. Again.
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Speaker 7: Now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show and our final
Speaker 2: segment here of hour two. Ben just flies by every
Speaker 2: time I get to host this show. But speaking of
Speaker 2: flying by, we had a couple of callers that waded
Speaker 2: through that last segment, so I want to get to
Speaker 2: them right away. We got Paul from Arvada.
Speaker 12: Paul, how you doing, Hey, I'm doing great, misaffronoon, Hey,
Speaker 12: thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 12: So, yes, I believe call it I was a sanctuary state.
Speaker 12: And one piece of evidence is that I believe our
Speaker 12: legislatures legislators are more interested in defending illegal immigrants than
Speaker 12: they are in helping our own students.
Speaker 2: I can tell you they certainly don't help law enforcement either.
Speaker 2: They hate us, I bet so.
Speaker 12: Specifically, last year, House built twenty four to twelve sixteen
Speaker 12: is the Justice Engaged Students Bill of Rights, and it
Speaker 12: is a great bill with one huge law, and that
Speaker 12: is that it was not funded. So there's absolutely zero
Speaker 12: dollars allocated by our legislators. So that students who get
Speaker 12: justice engaged, which means involved with the law in some way,
Speaker 12: shape or form, they should have a hotline that they
Speaker 12: can call and get help, whether that means legal help,
Speaker 12: family support, graduation plan, whatever. And so I would just
Speaker 12: encourage folks to contact their states senators and representatives and
Speaker 12: say fund HVA twenty four or twelve sixteen.
Speaker 2: All right, great, thanks for calling in, Paul, and thanks
Speaker 2: for holding through that last segment. We'll get to Hunter
Speaker 2: and Larimer County. You got a question about traffic science.
Speaker 2: Hopefully I can answer that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Sure.
Speaker 6: Have you noticed that when you're entering the highway, I'll
Speaker 6: just use I twenty five, that the yield signs have
Speaker 6: been removed and people think that the oncoming traffic is
Speaker 6: supposed to yield to the people coming onto the highway
Speaker 6: because it's really getting kind of dangerous. I'm in Larimer County.
Speaker 6: If I was going to say alt or something up
Speaker 6: in Well County and I was taking thirty four east,
Speaker 6: I'd have a hard time getting off the highway because
Speaker 6: the people getting on the highway at thirty four are
Speaker 6: preventing us from descending down into that curve to go
Speaker 6: on to thirty four.
Speaker 12: But it's all over.
Speaker 6: I twenty five. There are no yield signs. They've removed them.
Speaker 6: So do we not have to yield anymore?
Speaker 2: You still have to yield, but I guess signage is
Speaker 2: just optional in the state of Colorado anymore. My assumption
Speaker 2: is those signs have probably been taken out during construction
Speaker 2: or whatever. And they just thought, well, this is a
Speaker 2: cost saving move. Everybody's supposed to know what the rules
Speaker 2: of the road were, so we just won't put the
Speaker 2: sign back up.
Speaker 6: I don't know, there isn't any anywhere on the highway.
Speaker 6: And you know, next time you drive on the interstate,
Speaker 6: just look, you'll see there are no yield signs.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, I'm going to have a long drive going
Speaker 2: back to Weld County. But fortunately the ends in Weld County.
Speaker 2: I'll take a look at every one of the entrants
Speaker 2: and exits off of you.
Speaker 6: I'd love to have it here a comment sometime from
Speaker 6: you on that, because you know, people don't yield to
Speaker 6: get on the highway. They expect you to slow down
Speaker 6: and let them on, or change lanes or something.
Speaker 2: Run into it all. Yeah, I see it all the time,
Speaker 2: now that you mentioned it, I just never noticed the
Speaker 2: absence of the yield signs. But I'll keep my eyes
Speaker 2: out and I'm sure the callers and listeners will also,
Speaker 2: So Hunter, thanks for calling in appreciate it. So when
Speaker 2: we finished that last segment, you know there are a
Speaker 2: few texts have rolled in Alexi, says Sheriff Rames. Theoretically,
Speaker 2: the easiest account to reconcile should be cash. So disappointing.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see a forensic got it. And I
Speaker 2: think that's, you know, that's what Britta Horn's been been
Speaker 2: suggesting that she's going to do. But when we had
Speaker 2: Tom on Tom YORKLND, he mentioned that some of this
Speaker 2: stuff may have been a carryover all the way back
Speaker 2: to the Ryan Call administration. I just want to encourage people,
Speaker 2: if you haven't been that involved in politics, if you
Speaker 2: google Ryan Call Colorado, one of the first articles that
Speaker 2: comes up is out of the out of Colorado politics.
Speaker 2: It's Ernest Lunning, says ex Colorado GOP chairman Ryan Called
Speaker 2: disbarred over mishandling funds at pro Trump pack. So go figure.
Speaker 2: You know, now we're in a place where six years,
Speaker 2: eight years later, there's still a question about where some
Speaker 2: funding is and how long that's carried over. Not a
Speaker 2: good look for the Republicans. But at this point, I
Speaker 2: think you got to bury this hatchet, try to figure
Speaker 2: out how to reconcile the books and move forward. So
Speaker 2: it's been a pleasure fill it in for Dan. Here
Speaker 2: on a Monday, a windy, cold looking monday, out the
Speaker 2: window have a safe drive home if you're leaving going
Speaker 2: that way, just like I am. And again this is
Speaker 2: well Kenny Sheriff Steve Reens setting in for Dan Caplis here.
Speaker 2: I'm six thirty k