Speaker 1: All right, I want to welcome Jesse Razinski back to
Speaker 1: the show. It's been a while, and you're back, by
Speaker 1: the way, your podcast, which is a good thing because
Speaker 1: you are the facts and data guy, and uh, you're
Speaker 1: back your shit up with a lot of receipts. So
Speaker 1: it's really good to hear you're back in listening to
Speaker 1: your return. As we discussed online, I wanted to, if
Speaker 1: you want to, I want to start with your VA
Speaker 1: experiences and what led you back to podcasting because when
Speaker 1: we talked about it's been over a year now, huh,
Speaker 1: since you're on last it was a year?
Speaker 2: It was it was close yeah, close to nine months.
Speaker 1: So back then you were having troubles, uh with the
Speaker 1: VA and trying to get help and doctors, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And and so the reason I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this is, first good thing, you are getting the damn
Speaker 1: help finally. Uh. But what changed and what in your
Speaker 1: mind led to you actually getting what you need finally
Speaker 1: after all these damn years, Like it seems like the
Speaker 1: struggle was it was ridiculous, you know, for someone like you,
Speaker 1: a veteran who literally needs that help but yet couldn't
Speaker 1: really get anything together. And now all this now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everything's just kind of coming like it's working.
Speaker 1: I got to understand what you think for what you
Speaker 1: know happened that that really led to that change and
Speaker 1: getting you back to where you need to be.
Speaker 2: Well, first off, let's throw a big thank you to you,
Speaker 2: because everyone asked every once in a while, you were
Speaker 2: the only person actually, you know, texting me like every
Speaker 2: seven to ten days agoing when youre getting back behind
Speaker 2: the mike, when you get mike, when you're getting back
Speaker 2: behind the.
Speaker 1: Mike, you need to be I need to, you know.
Speaker 2: But last, because last thing I did was right after
Speaker 2: he announced Pam Bondi as the AG back in November,
Speaker 2: so it was I didn't realize it was nine months. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I actually went and did one knowing good. But you know,
Speaker 2: the VA was a pile of ship for years. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the frankest way to put it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: hadn't easier time getting my face put back together in
Speaker 2: the height of COVID after the accident. You know, it
Speaker 2: was easier to have surgery done during the height of
Speaker 2: it than it was just to get a doctor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the last four years, it's amazing how that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's actually kind of funny if you think about it.
Speaker 2: But for four years, I mean I had three primary
Speaker 2: care doctors, and that includes like the year and a
Speaker 2: half it was eighteen to twenty one months.
Speaker 1: Where I didn't have a doctor at all. There was
Speaker 1: just nothing.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't include the time in between, you know,
Speaker 2: appointments when I didn't see anybody because I didn't even
Speaker 2: know my primary care doctor and Hannah's brother's primary care
Speaker 2: doctor were the same people, and I happened to see him, like, well,
Speaker 2: they just canceled my VA tomorrows. Something was to doctor
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, oh, she's been god for like six months.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, cool. So she quit, like, you know,
Speaker 2: the day after I saw her last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody reached out on man, don't no cared.
Speaker 2: But they figured they were just going to, you know,
Speaker 2: play it off until we all had to show up
Speaker 2: and that none of us talk to each other, which
Speaker 2: again it's the VA. Why would they be that smart?
Speaker 2: But thankfully my neurologists totally didn't suck. So Yeah, one
Speaker 2: more giant shout out to doctor Oaster because he was
Speaker 2: taking care of X rays. He was taking care of
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff for me that was well beyond
Speaker 2: you know, a neurologists you know, jobs, title and all that,
Speaker 2: Like never I needed an X ray or anything. And
Speaker 2: I saw him he's like, cool, it's in go. Because
Speaker 2: I literally, like at one point, was arguing with doctors
Speaker 2: like can we do the X rays when I'm going
Speaker 2: down to see neuro and like we'll talk about it
Speaker 2: your next appointment, Like yeah, but see that's like two weeks.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there next week because it's down to Wilmington,
Speaker 2: so it's like an hour or so away, you know,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to do the X rays well I'm
Speaker 2: down there instead of seeing you guys week after in
Speaker 2: the driving back to Wilmington, and the response was we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it in your appointment, okay. And I told
Speaker 2: my neurologist and he's like, cool, it's in go. Thank
Speaker 2: you because they can apparently all see each other's direct
Speaker 2: messages that we have through there, so they can read
Speaker 2: everything we're saying. He's like, go, thank you. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it absolutely sucked. I couldn't get anything done and miraculously,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't find it to be a coincidence
Speaker 2: because the the first four years I was in absolutely sucked.
Speaker 2: Then there was this four year period where suddenly things
Speaker 2: were starting to roll again to include all the surgeries
Speaker 2: and I got run over. You everything I needed during
Speaker 2: COVID there was physical THERAPYOC and everything I needed. Then
Speaker 2: there's four years of nothing and I don't find it.
Speaker 2: And since then this year, just you know, since February,
Speaker 2: I got to go see the urologist. I mean I
Speaker 2: had to drive all the way to Richmond, but you know,
Speaker 2: I got to see them, the endochronologist, all of them,
Speaker 2: and got testosterone treatment from yeah, to replace everything because
Speaker 2: I was down at barely one hundred and the average
Speaker 2: is way above one hundred for my age group. So
Speaker 2: I got that taken care of, which I think is
Speaker 2: taken care of you. It's nice when your body feels
Speaker 2: like it's healing. It's good to have energy and not
Speaker 2: feel like a zombie all the time. It's not necessarily
Speaker 2: the funnest stuff for the injection to walk around for
Speaker 2: a day, but yeah, that got done. They sent me
Speaker 2: to a chiropractor finally, which is fantastic because I was
Speaker 2: arguing for that for years, and they got me a
Speaker 2: elymphatic drainage. You know, Lympho Press machined all the compression
Speaker 2: to help get rid of all the swelling, because I
Speaker 2: think I sent you pictures of the swelling, like at
Speaker 2: one point, if they could just sent you one of
Speaker 2: like my left leg, it was all blown up. So
Speaker 2: they got that and that took care of that problem,
Speaker 2: which you know, God bless them. They got me in
Speaker 2: for chiropractor again. Like I said, I'm going back to me.
Speaker 2: I got my head taking care of this. I think
Speaker 2: I go back to him next week.
Speaker 1: That got me put in for acupuncture.
Speaker 2: I made. There's so much going on.
Speaker 1: What what what led? What happened? Though, likegime, yeah, so okay,
Speaker 1: we can talk about that because I remember you and
Speaker 1: I discussing back and forth. You took a break because
Speaker 1: you had to get shipped done right, and you were
Speaker 1: frustrated as hell because like I can't get anything, like
Speaker 1: no one's responding to me. I keep put, keep put,
Speaker 1: being put back on the list, like going to go
Speaker 1: back to the line. Basically, it's like, and so you're
Speaker 1: the the you think the change really has to do
Speaker 1: with Trump's second term. Here at the start of the
Speaker 1: second term, that's when you did you start to notice
Speaker 1: it then or was a little bit down the line.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand what made the difference, because it's like, why,
Speaker 1: why should caring for veterans ever be politicized or prioritized
Speaker 1: differently depending on who the hell's in office? Like that
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Let's also not forget what the last regime did in there. Yeah, legitimately,
Speaker 2: I mean taking resources from the VA to deal with
Speaker 2: what was happening down in Texas. Let's just say that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were literally taking stuff from us. But it was
Speaker 2: a regime change, like I noticed it, yeah again in
Speaker 2: the first four years as a headache to do anything,
Speaker 2: and everything wasn't perfect, you know, under Trump's first term obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, and if you can look at you know,
Speaker 2: just basic numbers though, like where the veteran suicide rate was,
Speaker 2: Like it did go up a little bit as first year,
Speaker 2: a little bit of second year. But then in nineteen
Speaker 2: and twenty, even with yeah, all the lockdowns and isolation
Speaker 2: and all of that, like, we had our two biggest drops.
Speaker 2: Like ever it might have been, I couldn't even tit
Speaker 2: it last time. We had back to back drops of
Speaker 2: that big and then we almost went right back to
Speaker 2: it the first year under Biden, and then in case
Speaker 2: anybody's curious look it up. They haven't reported anything since
Speaker 2: twenty one, which tells you exactly how everything was handled
Speaker 2: for all of the can't some Port Trump and saying
Speaker 2: some Port veterans, Yeah, at least Trump let us know
Speaker 2: how many of them were. Yeah, how bad the situation
Speaker 2: actually was, which is, well, a lot of my liberals
Speaker 2: friends are gone on Facebook, but God rest their souls,
Speaker 2: they can't help themselves. But yeah, it's totally regime. Like
Speaker 2: there were four years where I was like, was the
Speaker 2: Cares Act where they said if we can't get help
Speaker 2: within thirty days, we can go in town And I
Speaker 2: literally when I was trying to get I don't remember
Speaker 2: who the hell it was at this point. I argued
Speaker 2: with them for so long but might have actually been Ortho.
Speaker 2: But like, the closest one we have is like six
Speaker 2: months from now. I'm like, yeah, but the Cares Act
Speaker 2: and she was like yeah, no. I was like, it's
Speaker 2: still the last time I checked, they didn't get rid
Speaker 2: of that. She's like yeah, but no, I was like,
Speaker 2: yeah it is. You're like no, And then I was
Speaker 2: like ever just schedule the damn thing some thing. And
Speaker 2: this time I mean like I've I mean, I forgot
Speaker 2: the consult went in, go do the acupuncturists. Just because
Speaker 2: they've been calling me for so many damn things lately.
Speaker 2: It's a very odd change of pace to see the
Speaker 2: VA's number pop up on my screen that much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like they call me in, They're like, oh, I can't
Speaker 2: do anyone in the network. The closest persons in Newburn
Speaker 2: good enough for you. I'm like, yeah, I'll drive a
Speaker 2: half hour, four whatever, I'll go to Newburn, like you know.
Speaker 1: It was just like that.
Speaker 2: And she's like, there's no more bureaucracy. You get your
Speaker 2: you know console, you get your twelve and if it helps,
Speaker 2: tell your doctor, he'll tell me. And it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to go through any you know, VA bureaucratic things. She's like,
Speaker 2: what like and she'll set up you know, she said,
Speaker 2: but it's approved. If it works, I'll approve it immediately.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you sure this is the VA. She's like, Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm the VA, and I approve it. Like yeah, but
Speaker 2: god damn, where was this it was?
Speaker 1: They these guys in the VA even acknowledge that they
Speaker 1: were fucking you off for the for so many years
Speaker 1: before like all of a sudden, it's just g glad
Speaker 1: to meet you. We're here for you. They just me
Speaker 1: more everything previously.
Speaker 2: My neurologist always he always, he at least acknowledged that
Speaker 2: he knew how I'd say fucked we all were, because
Speaker 2: I mean I obviously wasn't his only you know patient
Speaker 2: that was probably asking him for you know, things outside
Speaker 2: of his means, because we just couldn't get anyone. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was like to the point where they were going
Speaker 2: to send me out in town and then they kept
Speaker 2: and then they're like, cool, we'll send you this place.
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and then like they did the confirmation
Speaker 2: text in the afternoon like before, and then like at
Speaker 2: seven thirty that night, suddenly I got the canceling thing.
Speaker 2: You know, we have to reschedule you because the and
Speaker 2: that happened like three times, and I called him like,
Speaker 2: there has to be someone else that you could just
Speaker 2: send it to well, because they keep canceling the day
Speaker 2: before like and then they just stopped responding all together.
Speaker 2: So that was, uh, my eye doctor fighting that's not
Speaker 2: really a fight anymore, but arguing with optum because I
Speaker 2: scheduled my doctor appointment about this time last year. I'd say,
Speaker 2: except it was for you know, this year, Like you
Speaker 2: can go back to the say my doctor about us
Speaker 2: to be next summer. Let's cool. Whatever. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: desperate for glasses, but just because of where I've been
Speaker 2: there enough times, they have all that. You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, but we need we need to acknowledge though, Jesse, like,
Speaker 1: this is a major problem in where it's catastrophic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we're talking about people as yourself was served. Uh,
Speaker 1: you come back with actual ailments and injuries due to serving,
Speaker 1: and and they treat veterans like their second class when
Speaker 1: it comes to medical or there's never enough resources. But
Speaker 1: we've got people living on you know, assisted living. How
Speaker 1: this is like medicare whatever, you know, any government assistants
Speaker 1: that aren't veterans that can call and get their treatment
Speaker 1: and get things paid for or get you know, a
Speaker 1: large percentage paid for it without a problem. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to the VA, the channel you're supposed to
Speaker 1: go through as a veteran, it's like you got to
Speaker 1: jump through hoops to make it happened. Yeah, it's it's good,
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean, it sounds like it's turning around finally,
Speaker 1: But the lack of accountability and admission to their fuck
Speaker 1: ups is ridiculous, like just acting as if no, it
Speaker 1: was always we're always here for you.
Speaker 2: Hey, Afghanistan the end that sounds accountability for all of them, Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: which I might add all of their people still say
Speaker 2: was a great success.
Speaker 1: I'd say it like bo.
Speaker 2: Rat, but I can't pull the accent off. I don't
Speaker 2: want to go and ruin bow Rat. Whatever is it
Speaker 2: for people that like him? Even though so Aparican does
Speaker 2: make me laugh every once in a while.
Speaker 1: But you know he's got it, he's got his moments success.
Speaker 1: You know it was good.
Speaker 2: But again, like the eye doctor thing, like they rescheduled
Speaker 2: it from like this August, they moved it up all
Speaker 2: the way to last November. Like no, they're like it's
Speaker 2: in the system, but you didn't show them, Like well,
Speaker 2: that'd be great if they told me so. Why because
Speaker 2: they're the one that scheduled it and show up on
Speaker 2: my VA thing with like no one send anything, no
Speaker 2: one told me anything that they moved on Like you'd
Speaker 2: think I would dick it off for nine months earlier.
Speaker 1: Like I'm stupid, but a lot, a lot of credit
Speaker 1: a lot of what you went through. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not just care for pain management, you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: also mental health. There's so much stuff that that people need,
Speaker 1: and like, for you, it affected your life all the
Speaker 1: way around. I'm not going to I mean you're not.
Speaker 1: You tell people whatever you want. But from what I
Speaker 1: know from when we were texting or when we were communicating,
Speaker 1: et cetera, is you kind of like you needed your
Speaker 1: own time. So you kind of like pulled away from
Speaker 1: these things you love to do because you didn't feel
Speaker 1: you're in the right space to you know, push forward. Example,
Speaker 1: you backed off on the podcast, you backed off, even
Speaker 1: on your art work. You got back into it, I see,
Speaker 1: you know, even sending me a picture. You got some
Speaker 1: cool stuff going on, some great pieces. But it's like
Speaker 1: kind of shrunk back away because you're of the frustration
Speaker 1: from not getting the help you need. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a mental health talk for years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how ridiculous. So can you tell can you tell
Speaker 1: everybody you know how that affected? Let's just I mean
Speaker 1: we'll use the podcast for example, because that's what I
Speaker 1: think most people know you for is your show. So
Speaker 1: the Jesse Razinski Show. By the way, if you don't
Speaker 1: know who Jesse Rasinski is, check it out. Really good stuff.
Speaker 1: But tell people how that impacted your show and your
Speaker 1: ability to move forward and your show and concentrate on
Speaker 1: doing that well.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you talk about, you know, the headspace
Speaker 2: part of it, I mean, like that was just putting.
Speaker 2: We all do it. I was just burying, you know,
Speaker 2: compartmentalizing things like you know, it makes me sound like
Speaker 2: a serial killer, but I'm going to go back to
Speaker 2: I can't complain that if I did, who would care?
Speaker 2: Except this time there literally wasn't even anyone that pretended
Speaker 2: to care. There was no one, And I mean there
Speaker 2: was a lot of just headspace stuff. And then you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do anything, and you know, neurological
Speaker 2: stuff on top of it that I was, you know,
Speaker 2: and again I can't say anything bad about minrologists. He
Speaker 2: was trying. He was doing everything, but there's only you know,
Speaker 2: so much that one man could do. And I was
Speaker 2: getting you know, I mean, the glare was getting me.
Speaker 2: Bright lights were really getting me, you know, my neck
Speaker 2: was Thankfully again they got me into chuiropractice, so my neck,
Speaker 2: They got me to see real doctors and imaging and
Speaker 2: stuff lately, so my next Yeah, functioning, It was just
Speaker 2: a total collapse of anyone being able to do anything
Speaker 2: or caring about anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, I don't want to say I gave
Speaker 2: up because of everything, but I mean I was fighting
Speaker 2: so many battles that even doing this wasn't fun. Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure we met. I told you
Speaker 2: I was going to do all kinds of reclaimed wall,
Speaker 2: you know, wood on the wall behind me. I was
Speaker 2: going to do all this stuff, and then one day
Speaker 2: I literally came in here and if you didn't notice,
Speaker 2: the walls are very very like I packed it all
Speaker 2: up in the garage. One day she came in, She's like,
Speaker 2: what the like what I don't even want to look
Speaker 2: at it. Like I was so detached from the world.
Speaker 2: I everything's sitting out And do you think definitely, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: there was definitely it's it. And thankfully now yeah, I
Speaker 2: have getting a therapist. Finally took him fucking two years.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like they just everything compounded between you losing
Speaker 2: some of my marines, the health stuff, family stuff, but thankfully. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't care about the family stuff, but you can't
Speaker 2: fix stupid, right, Yeah they're going to hate.
Speaker 1: Each other, but you know, we're still good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just everything compounding on top of everything.
Speaker 2: And I didn't say it was depressed, but when I
Speaker 2: did my mental health evaluation the other day, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: damn right, I was depressed, like you knows, just everything
Speaker 2: sucked and there was no like the light at the
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel was a fucking freight train and
Speaker 2: I knew it was a freight train whine because yeah,
Speaker 2: nothing was getting you know, anyone that's out there listening
Speaker 2: can understand. And I mean, it's just what the hell
Speaker 2: is going to happen next? And every time you turn
Speaker 2: around there's another fucking next.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing, you know, just one thing after another
Speaker 1: after nothing helps anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely, you know, And that was the word.
Speaker 2: That's how I when I stopped painting, stopped doing the show,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, what this is probably you know,
Speaker 2: a bad sign. And I almost crept back into it, almost,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got through this tone because I noticed
Speaker 2: the signs and I know how miserable I was for
Speaker 2: a while. And now I'm like, I'm actually getting somewhere now,
Speaker 2: Like there's doctors, there's people, I have friends, you know,
Speaker 2: if people like to talk to, I have doctors. Again,
Speaker 2: it was really the big doctor thing, like that was
Speaker 2: just the most depressing part about all of this. Didn't
Speaker 2: like at one point it was literally there wasn't even
Speaker 2: anyone to reach out to for like a year and
Speaker 2: a half, and when they tried to send me in
Speaker 2: town again, couldn't get meet anyone preaching out often to
Speaker 2: even stop trying.
Speaker 1: Did you kind of feel like it didn't matter? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I felt like I was just a little insignificant,
Speaker 2: you know, a little bug in the world, and no
Speaker 2: one cared, so why should I?
Speaker 1: Which is probably the worst you know pit you can
Speaker 1: get into, in my opinion. So how'd you get back?
Speaker 1: I mean, was it literally just the regime change and
Speaker 1: the carrier you're getting that that motivated you to get
Speaker 1: back or did you realize I need to get my
Speaker 1: shit together and do the things.
Speaker 2: A little bit of both, Okay, a little bit of both,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, Because again I sent
Speaker 2: you that that one picture with, like I say, the
Speaker 2: picture of the swelling when I was up in like Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: I want to say early January, maybe end of December, whenever.
Speaker 2: The hell it was, Nichs ran like a balloon. And
Speaker 2: the second, I mean, once I started getting the stuff
Speaker 2: for that, so my leg because they measured it, like
Speaker 2: because they send a lady, you know, the gear's the machine,
Speaker 2: she has to come over and show you how to
Speaker 2: use it. I'm like, I know how to use it,
Speaker 2: you know. To me, her laughed like it's amazing, how
Speaker 2: like it's amazing, how bout you guys are doing now?
Speaker 2: So suddenly she's like, yeah, it's funny how that works out,
Speaker 2: isn't it. We had a good but, you know, just
Speaker 2: getting stuff done because what I want I remember who
Speaker 2: it was. I think it was the chiropractice the first time,
Speaker 2: and that was on a small swelling day, Like my
Speaker 2: left leg on average was still just from the above
Speaker 2: knee down was on average like five inches bigger that day,
Speaker 2: like everywhere, and that didn't include foot, like it was
Speaker 2: just gigantic and it hurt and it sucked. And the
Speaker 2: second we started taking care of you know that that
Speaker 2: took you know a lot of it away.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I.
Speaker 2: Also just think I got tired of feeling sorry for myself.
Speaker 2: And again there was great people, you know, like George here,
Speaker 2: just when are you gonna get on the mic? When
Speaker 2: you're gonna get on the mic? And I was like,
Speaker 2: when you're gonna get back on the bike. She's like,
Speaker 2: when you're gonna go back on a show?
Speaker 1: No, let a mask, Jesus, what what is with the
Speaker 1: two of you? And then I mean, you got a
Speaker 1: good thing going and you know, and I need, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I needed. So it's a combination of self motivation and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's an important thing. Look, and I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to grill you a lot on this, Jesse.
Speaker 1: I just know that you went through a lot with this,
Speaker 1: and I know other veterans do. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: not enough people that talk about it. That's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about this. It's good for
Speaker 1: people to hear what actually happens because a lot of
Speaker 1: people assume, oh no, it's they're well taken care of.
Speaker 1: And then there's also there's also the it's still kind
Speaker 1: of lingering. It's it's changed a little, but there's still
Speaker 1: the anti you know, anti service person support. It's like
Speaker 1: suck the military. Those guys. You know, I don't believe
Speaker 1: in what America is doing, so we don't care about them. Ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And there's the even worse part. There's one that's even
Speaker 2: worse than all of that. It's like some people I know,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's never going to listen to this. So
Speaker 2: it's like Drew and we are friends for forever until
Speaker 2: you suddenly he turned on CNN one day and suddenly
Speaker 2: I was a racist and like a lot of data
Speaker 2: don like, you're the one that makes jokes about making
Speaker 2: things making you want to slap Chinese babies last time
Speaker 2: I checked. Yes, that's a note. That's a bad person,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you to stomp that. But suddenly I
Speaker 2: was the word like the Antichrist. Even though we knew
Speaker 2: each other for like almost thirty years at that point,
Speaker 2: I like whatever. But we'd have arguments where he would
Speaker 2: be like barking about how bad veterans got treated. But
Speaker 2: this is how you know he's a liberal because he
Speaker 2: was then also well pitching about that. We talk about
Speaker 2: how the government needs to take care of you know,
Speaker 2: everyone deserves health care through the government and let them run.
Speaker 2: It's okay, So you're mad because they can't take care
Speaker 2: of a handful of us and we get treated like dirt.
Speaker 2: But you think they should handle over three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty million of us. Yeah, that's how you know you're
Speaker 2: a liberal. What they can't They're taking such bad care
Speaker 2: of the twelve of us that there is.
Speaker 1: In comparison to the country.
Speaker 2: But sure they can handle that. What yay? What liberals
Speaker 2: for dummies?
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 2: What the ultimate logic can't take care of ten of us,
Speaker 2: but Jerald's take care of three hundred and fifty million?
Speaker 1: Why not? Fuck it?
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, that was the argument that just
Speaker 2: oh my god, if I didn't have so many head injuries,
Speaker 2: I had a head butt a wall. It turns out, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can only do that so many times, but it's
Speaker 2: much cheaper than headbutting a stupid person. So everyone remember that.
Speaker 2: Let's say I want to headbut something it is not
Speaker 2: a human being. Well, lawyers are expensive.
Speaker 1: Since since you brought up, uh, liberals, that's a good
Speaker 1: segue to get into a bit of what you do
Speaker 1: with the show. But before we get it, I just
Speaker 1: I just want to point out everybody to everybody that look,
Speaker 1: you know, veterans are still struggling to get care and
Speaker 1: it didn't go away, and we need more people to
Speaker 1: step up and make noise about it and make sure
Speaker 1: that you know it's it's happening. It's happening for veterans
Speaker 1: they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: And I'll say at the end, it's like I keep
Speaker 2: arguing with my buddy, you know, Walter who I did
Speaker 2: episodes of Wednesdays with Walter way back fucking when, forever
Speaker 2: ago before he really lost his mind when everyone called
Speaker 2: him chuck every once in a while. But he's like
Speaker 2: I just quit him, not like the dude like the
Speaker 2: second year, you like stop, Like that's one last voice
Speaker 2: out there keeping this ship. Like he's very vocal about it.
Speaker 2: He's always there doing stuff about it. Like even if
Speaker 2: it feels like it's getting nowhere, what you not saying anything?
Speaker 2: But that's one last voice saying anything about how we've
Speaker 2: been treated for the last you know how X amount
Speaker 2: of eaters I mean since Vietnam that's getting Which is
Speaker 2: why I want to make a T shirt that says,
Speaker 2: like the VA killing who the d D couldn't since
Speaker 2: in whatever fucking year they were born. I would wear
Speaker 2: the shit out of that shirt. I wear it into
Speaker 2: the VA every time I walked in there the VA,
Speaker 2: finishing the d d's job since they don't give a
Speaker 2: damn batutas. But uh yeah, like you got to just
Speaker 2: if you're out there near veteran, you got to keep
Speaker 2: it up. But you got to keep telling people don't
Speaker 2: give up, no matter how much of a headache it is,
Speaker 2: because every voice lost it just makes it easier for
Speaker 2: them to keep just running through us like we don't matter,
Speaker 2: and that that doesn't fix a goddamn thing at all.
Speaker 2: So don't lose faith. It's hard, God knows it's hard,
Speaker 2: but don't do it. Please, for the love of God,
Speaker 2: don't do it. Every voice matters, you matter. Don't let
Speaker 2: the pricks off that easy. I approve said.
Speaker 1: Message important message. Yeah all right, Well, with that being said,
Speaker 1: that was a little heavy, but you know what it
Speaker 1: needed to be discussed. Glad you're back. So now let's
Speaker 1: get into the fun stuff that you do. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. Hey, listen, I've
Speaker 1: been doing. I've been doing so much with guest interviews
Speaker 1: lately for my show, and a lot of it has
Speaker 1: been based on geopolitics and a lot of discussion about Islam,
Speaker 1: So I we're not going to get into that, to
Speaker 1: be quite honest, Jesse.
Speaker 2: Those were those were good shorts though, fantastic, those are fantasts.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to avoid that conversation with you because
Speaker 1: you're going to bring me back to domestic what's going
Speaker 1: on domestically here in the US, which I haven't had
Speaker 1: time to concentrate on anymore, just because I've been so
Speaker 1: engrossed in what's going on and you know, the world overseas.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it's just that's how it went. But
Speaker 1: you're the guy that has no problem telling people how
Speaker 1: it is. Not just tell him how it is, but why, Like,
Speaker 1: here's the facts behind this. Let's not conflate shit, let's
Speaker 1: not try to sugarcoat it. Here's the reality. I don't
Speaker 1: even know where to begin, but you've been you've been
Speaker 1: on a tear lately with your with your show, which
Speaker 1: I like, well, actually I know where to begin. Let's
Speaker 1: do this as you're a Trump supporter, right and I
Speaker 1: want to get your assessment on what's going on right now.
Speaker 1: Everybody is kind of holding his feet to the fire
Speaker 1: for the Epstein debackle, and now there's a big push
Speaker 1: by the Democrat Party, the leftist to basically try to
Speaker 1: drive home that he's on the list, he's a pedophile
Speaker 1: on this is the only reason that nothing's happening and
Speaker 1: there's no list being released, but completely also ignoring the
Speaker 1: fact that there was a nearly two decade investigation into Epstein.
Speaker 1: Josey Maxwell was arrested because of evidence that she was
Speaker 1: involved in what was going on, and beyond that, she
Speaker 1: was the one finding underaged people girls to send to Epstein.
Speaker 1: So they have this connection and all this evidence that
Speaker 1: they suddenly don't have that The Democrat Party for all
Speaker 1: these years, could have pushed that Trump, being such a
Speaker 1: major figure, whether he was in politics or not, was
Speaker 1: always a popular billionaire at any given time, they could
Speaker 1: have pulled the plug on this right Why now, Like
Speaker 1: what's going on and what's what this rift going on
Speaker 1: with the so called MAGA side of things? And you know,
Speaker 1: we'll get into MAGA later because I think people are
Speaker 1: getting away from what MAGA actually meant. It's not everybody
Speaker 1: thinks it's just Trump. Well he coined the term, so
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But I believe represents, you know,
Speaker 1: something bigger, but regardless. I mean, let's get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this Epstein debacle light where do you stand and
Speaker 1: or what do you know and what do you think
Speaker 1: on this?
Speaker 2: That's why I haven't talked about it online. Granted, there's
Speaker 2: a theory behind it everybody, but I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: avoid it because I think he's on the list. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to do any of that. It's a very
Speaker 2: simple theory. Thankfully, I figured he would bring this up.
Speaker 2: I was just waiting, and I think I told something.
Speaker 2: If you ask, I've told people. But it's a very
Speaker 2: simple but confusing thing. As complicated I should say, is
Speaker 2: why I don't, you know, talk about it? Okay, one,
Speaker 2: get it out of the way. If he was on it,
Speaker 2: we would have known. So let's stop that argument. Already
Speaker 2: they've proven that they're just slimy, shitty people, and if
Speaker 2: they got them, they would have got them already. There
Speaker 2: would have been the gotcha two.
Speaker 1: We know?
Speaker 2: I mean I think that the flight logs you know,
Speaker 2: and all that you know who went here, there and everywhere.
Speaker 2: You know, just because you were on his plane doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you were necessarily because he did have normal business things.
Speaker 2: You know that he did not just being you know,
Speaker 2: a fucking creep, a maximum creep.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So there's going to be people that I think, you know,
Speaker 2: that are on the logs that you would just get
Speaker 2: freight trained when they literally had nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the creepiness, but their name would be out there forever,
Speaker 2: and I think that would ruin you a lot of
Speaker 2: innison people's lives. And again to everyone that said, you're
Speaker 2: just saying that because of Trump, No, if he's on
Speaker 2: the thing, fuck them, get them. But I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that you know, weren't involve any
Speaker 2: of it, that we know had business dealings with him,
Speaker 2: you know, outside of his creepiness, that would get you know,
Speaker 2: thrown up into the stupidity of it all. No matter what,
Speaker 2: you're ruined just because everyone's been on yeah, him being
Speaker 2: like those paintings behind me, they're not going to hang
Speaker 2: themselves anyway.
Speaker 1: Haven't heard that one in a while. But like so,
Speaker 1: I think that's a big, you know, part of it.
Speaker 2: I think that, I mean, we've all heard the speculation,
Speaker 2: all that you've heard of mean, we all heard rumors
Speaker 2: of you know, people that were involved, you know, from celebrities, athletes,
Speaker 2: business people, fucking royalty overseas like all of that. I
Speaker 2: think there's so many moving pieces, you know, in big
Speaker 2: names out there. I'm sure there's giant names out there,
Speaker 2: you know that we'd never hear, like the whole thing anyway,
Speaker 2: it's one of those will know, but we'll never I
Speaker 2: just don't think they'll ever, you know, if there's really
Speaker 2: royalty from overseas and princes and all like, we're never
Speaker 2: going to see, you know, the whole entire thing. People
Speaker 2: like heads will actually explode.
Speaker 1: Is that right there? Jesse was a big theory of
Speaker 1: mine as to why to me theory we're talking theory
Speaker 1: right because we obviously can only prove what we know
Speaker 1: or what's been released. But the theory I had was
Speaker 1: similar to what you're saying. I think I think there
Speaker 1: were world leaders deep into this shit and they haven't
Speaker 1: moved forward with exposing anything to the degree that America's
Speaker 1: looking The American people are looking for because it can
Speaker 1: really up and geopolitical connections and relationships throughout the world.
Speaker 1: But would you agree that if that is the case,
Speaker 1: say like fuck it, Like is it not time for
Speaker 1: a reset and to hold people's feet to the fire.
Speaker 1: And punish them for all of this, all this heinous
Speaker 1: you know, all these kindness acts.
Speaker 2: That's on That's what's on my back end, like what
Speaker 2: I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: Again, it's just a theory, but this is what happens
Speaker 2: when I sit around night and I'm building the website,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like and I have those weird thoughts.
Speaker 2: But you know, he came out and said that, you know,
Speaker 2: he had it, ham BONDI said, now all the files
Speaker 2: were on her death.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thousands, thousands of hours of video, remember all.
Speaker 2: Of that, like was there, and now they're saying there
Speaker 2: was nothing. My hope is that it's a game of chess,
Speaker 2: not checkers. So he comes out, he says they have nothing,
Speaker 2: which now has Nancy and all of them throwing up
Speaker 2: all kinds of you. The Republicans say there's nothing, and
Speaker 2: we went on recess for the summer, right like they're
Speaker 2: gone right now right. The Democrats close here throwing up
Speaker 2: bills to say we have don't know what's happening. You know,
Speaker 2: Maxwell has to come and testify and all that, and
Speaker 2: they finally get him so strung up that he's like, fine.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, and he releases it. All of it. But
Speaker 1: isn't it funny they were against Maxwell testifying for so
Speaker 1: long and now all of a sudden they want her
Speaker 1: on the stand. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I hoping that he's just like came out and
Speaker 2: said it was nothing, which then turned all of the
Speaker 2: people that they've turned into just fucking robots.
Speaker 1: I think that's kill kill them, kill them.
Speaker 2: They have to get it, so then they pass all
Speaker 2: these bills. It has to get you put out there.
Speaker 2: And he's like, fine, fuck it, here you go, and
Speaker 2: then he uses it as the way to you know, Barry,
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it's all of them that
Speaker 2: deserves it?
Speaker 1: Do you think they're that simple minded though, that they're
Speaker 1: manipulated so easily.
Speaker 2: I have one more word for everybody. Afghanistan or here
Speaker 2: or Here's one. Very fine people on both sides. It's
Speaker 2: just even though there's like a you don't want to
Speaker 2: be second speech around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't want to believe elected officials are
Speaker 1: that easily.
Speaker 2: Russia, Russia, Russia borders closed.
Speaker 1: Jack Bleach, all right, fine, I get it.
Speaker 2: I mean you can get I mean, these people are
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Remember when there was allegedly, you know, Russia
Speaker 2: allegedly had hits out on our troops in Afghanistan. Nothing confirmed.
Speaker 2: I still haven't seen anything confirmed. But guess what, the
Speaker 2: second they heard it, they ran with it because he
Speaker 2: was terrible and why is he doing this? I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know all you people do by running the sun,
Speaker 2: and then they believed it and I got yelled at
Speaker 2: for it, like it don't like Christ, Like yes, what
Speaker 2: if they were doing it now, it's probably worse for
Speaker 2: us with the troops over there, And if they weren't
Speaker 2: doing it, it's still bad for the people over there,
Speaker 2: Like you stupid fucks, don't they don't think. They just
Speaker 2: hear and they and they just have to go and
Speaker 2: go and go, just like they're saying birthright, like Trump's
Speaker 2: kids have to go. Because Malonnia wasn't a pseudoiciden, it's
Speaker 2: like he still was done, done done.
Speaker 1: May I get it?
Speaker 2: I mean stupid, Okay, you don't like to call people stupid,
Speaker 2: But so after this many years, the thing, the.
Speaker 1: Thing with the Maxwell case that gets me is, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that is the biggest piece of confirmation that everyone
Speaker 1: has that that they're ignoring. She's not being held for
Speaker 1: just being a fucking pimp for this long. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: she was convicted of assisting in trafficking fucking miners connected
Speaker 1: to who who is her boss? Epstein? How does that?
Speaker 1: How does that trail suddenly run cold? How can you
Speaker 1: say there's no list or any other names associated with
Speaker 1: It's like, who were his fucking clients? They weren't gathering them,
Speaker 1: and they didn't run a business, which is what they
Speaker 1: were doing. As as shady and bad as it was,
Speaker 1: Jesse abhorrent, they weren't doing it for nothing if they
Speaker 1: didn't have fucking clients. And in that type of situation,
Speaker 1: unfortunate people don't want to hear this. But in sex trafficking,
Speaker 1: there are repeat clients, like non repeat clients. It's not
Speaker 1: just random people they find on the dark web. So
Speaker 1: they know your two years, not two your sorry, two
Speaker 1: decades long investigation. And suddenly it's all bullshit and and
Speaker 1: it's all about, oh, well, they're not releasing because Trump's
Speaker 1: on the list. Like you said, with the flight logs,
Speaker 1: those have been public for years. I mean, Bill Gates
Speaker 1: is on their fucking Chris Tucker, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: There's so many people on those flight logs, but no
Speaker 1: one's looking at them right, and then one more thing
Speaker 1: justin then here's the other thing, because I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know about this. The other thing I have to say
Speaker 1: about this is why now, all of a sudden, we
Speaker 1: have all these people like now specifically now, after all
Speaker 1: these years, all these people coming forward, Trump rape me,
Speaker 1: Trump touched me. I'm victim number twenty seven, I'm victim
Speaker 1: number thirty. Like, doesn't it all seem very theatrical and
Speaker 1: organized and played very intentional?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everything always is by them. When I
Speaker 2: say them, I mean like the whole entire control panel
Speaker 2: power of the whole entire country. I mean, the same
Speaker 2: people have been in the same positions, doing the same thing,
Speaker 2: and they do what they have to. They manipulate things
Speaker 2: that they have to. They have the media and they say,
Speaker 2: here's the talking point. And somehow or like when them
Speaker 2: crats were coming out with all those spontaneous videos and
Speaker 2: somehow they were all saying the same exact thing, perfect tempo, perfectly.
Speaker 2: They were all, it's all you know thing, but again her,
Speaker 2: you know her, and the client list goes into my
Speaker 2: big you know thing because you know, they got it
Speaker 2: for trafficking et cetera, et cetera to apparently no one.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that they're just using that again. What my
Speaker 2: dream scenario is that it's just a big game of
Speaker 2: chest to get all the idiots to be like, we
Speaker 2: need to know, and he's like, okay, but remember, I mean,
Speaker 2: we also just saw a court case where did he
Speaker 2: got hit for you know, traffic being people across state
Speaker 2: lines for sex, but then didn't get charged with sex trafficking,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: What the fuck was that about?
Speaker 2: He got so we trafficked them for sex across state lines,
Speaker 2: he got charged with that, but you didn't get for
Speaker 2: sex traffic, right, you know. But I think that it's
Speaker 2: part of the grand I hope it's part of the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things because I heard I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's true or not, that that uh miss Maxwell
Speaker 2: sat down and answered every damn question under mankind with
Speaker 2: the DJ one of these days here recently. Man. I heard,
Speaker 2: that'd be great if that was it, you know.
Speaker 1: But as you know, what, like, are we going to
Speaker 1: get that recorded conversation or anything? Are they going to
Speaker 1: let that be be known?
Speaker 2: We should?
Speaker 1: Will?
Speaker 2: We we know how this works. That's what a everyone
Speaker 2: seems to be. The biggest disappointment is with Trump. With
Speaker 2: it is yeah that he is not. Again, I'm just
Speaker 2: hoping that just for the grand scheme of the world
Speaker 2: is going to be the biggest game of chess and
Speaker 2: the biggest gotcha of all time.
Speaker 1: Be like, fine, here you go. Nobody wants to give
Speaker 1: Trump that that credit though, like, oh, he's not a
Speaker 1: chess but he's not that smart. Well okay, no, we
Speaker 1: can argue maybe he individually isn't, but he has a
Speaker 1: large team behind him, and there's some very smart people
Speaker 1: in there, right, and he's Unfortunately for these people who
Speaker 1: make this claim, he's repeatedly been very consistent and back
Speaker 1: in these idiots into a corner and exposing their bullshit
Speaker 1: and having them play right into his schemes. Really, so
Speaker 1: like they still don't get it, They still don't get it.
Speaker 1: I I'm with you, though, Look, if Trump's on this list,
Speaker 1: if he's truly part of this, I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck if he's Trump or not, I don't care to me.
Speaker 1: If you're abusing children, man, and and and and you're
Speaker 1: using them for sex and sex trafficking and making fucking
Speaker 1: kittie porn, then you need to burn. I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck who you are. I don't even care if
Speaker 1: you're Trump. I don't care if you're Obama Clint. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Like these people should be punished, and I
Speaker 1: think straight at the execution, right, there's there's no reason
Speaker 1: for these people to ruin ruin people's lives at a
Speaker 1: young age and and and get to live and fucking
Speaker 1: tell a story like fuck that, yeh. So I hope it's.
Speaker 2: Get and just because like I mean, he's a ball
Speaker 2: in the china shop now, which always like he was
Speaker 2: bad the first time then you guys didn't leave alone
Speaker 2: for four years and this time he knows the only
Speaker 2: like he just like I only have four years left
Speaker 2: and he doesn't fucking care like and look at all.
Speaker 2: I mean he's been a troll sense like like fall
Speaker 2: until now, like he's going to be a king? What yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe he will be a king. No King's Day everywhere, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I hope you had a very good
Speaker 2: no King's Day, which I like to call the fourth
Speaker 2: of July celebt and told the king to go fuck himself.
Speaker 1: It is very thank you.
Speaker 2: Guys for that, and now we appreciate you celebrating it
Speaker 2: with us, you're too stupid, and they were out there
Speaker 2: and they were doing it on the fourth of July,
Speaker 2: having no Kings things like, you guys are actually so
Speaker 2: stupid that you're celebrating the day we told the king
Speaker 2: to go fuck himself, like on the like no King's
Speaker 2: Day on that day as a form of protest, even
Speaker 2: though we're celebrating the fact that we told the king
Speaker 2: to go fuck himself. Or you know, he's just Sinko
Speaker 2: to Mayo when you have the thing that somber like
Speaker 2: he has just been trolling these people for months and
Speaker 2: it immediately starts the spin machine, which is why I
Speaker 2: hope that's all this is. It's just a very political
Speaker 2: game of vine. Oh look what they really want me
Speaker 2: to release it? Oh no, here we go. Oh gotcha?
Speaker 2: Like pray to God that I mean, I don't pray hopefully.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. And you know what, jesse As, they're using
Speaker 1: the whole protecting victims argument as to why this has
Speaker 1: never happened, but nobody's asking for names of victims. No,
Speaker 1: we we do not need to see the tapes of
Speaker 1: victims being abused or get to know who they are.
Speaker 1: We're asking for the fucking people involved that we're paying
Speaker 1: and soliciting this service, whether it was with money or
Speaker 1: in exchange of favors, and you know, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: that's what we want. We don't. The excuse of protecting
Speaker 1: the victims is bullshit because no one's asking for who's
Speaker 1: the victim? What did they go through? Oh? Show me
Speaker 1: the video? Like, no one's sick enough to fucking want
Speaker 1: like that. That is so dumb. That is the stupidest
Speaker 1: argument ever to you.
Speaker 2: Needs to sound wrong. Yeah when I say I don't
Speaker 2: care about the victims, because I really honestly do, but
Speaker 2: I don't care who they are. They want to come
Speaker 2: forward and tell their story by all means, you know,
Speaker 2: be I agree with you. If those things are already sealed,
Speaker 2: no one's going to find out and guess what, they're
Speaker 2: very fond of that big black marker and redacting everything
Speaker 2: out of everything. They can make all of that disappear
Speaker 2: and just tell us who the people are. And it's
Speaker 2: always a shit excuse. I do think it's funny. It's
Speaker 2: the Trump and Obama thing. Yeah, Trump said something, Obama
Speaker 2: responded like, guys, we're going to.
Speaker 3: Get a little bit Yeah, Yeah, that's how you know
Speaker 3: something's going on if Obama's actually responding, but there might
Speaker 3: be something to it that someone might actually know.
Speaker 2: And then Obama's going, oh no.
Speaker 1: Well since you brought that up, so you know the
Speaker 1: argument from the other side, Jesse, He is trying to
Speaker 1: tie this to Obama, right, And and they're they're saying
Speaker 1: that Trump get Trump administration, not necessarily Trump himself, but
Speaker 1: basically his whole administration is deflecting. Right, They're just trying
Speaker 1: to distract. But what's interesting is I'm not you can
Speaker 1: correct me because I'm not sure. But as far as
Speaker 1: I know, Obama has not made any direct rebuttals or
Speaker 1: comments about this. It's been his office. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a video of him directly.
Speaker 2: Addressing I haven't seen him say a word. Has been
Speaker 2: arrest saying stuff for him. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: we're actually I mean, the fact that his office responded,
Speaker 2: I think says everything. Because look at all of the
Speaker 2: things Team Trump and Trump has said about them. It's
Speaker 2: amazing how this is the one that, you know, struck
Speaker 2: the nerve suddenly for him to have to say something
Speaker 2: after all of them. I mean, dude's been NonStop on
Speaker 2: these people. This is the one that struck the nerve
Speaker 2: enough that he I mean, we'll never see Obama say
Speaker 2: another word. Yeah, but his team someone and his team went,
Speaker 2: oh no, and that spoke that said enough for me
Speaker 2: is the fact that this is after all the jobs
Speaker 2: they've thrown back and forth at each other, and they have,
Speaker 2: you know, since Trump was running way back when, and
Speaker 2: don't get me going on all that nonsense that happened
Speaker 2: proven by the way, you're welcome, America, but you know
Speaker 2: the fact that this is finally one of the few
Speaker 2: things that got any kind of response. I think that
Speaker 2: speaks volumes. There's a word I was looking for that
Speaker 2: speaks volumes as to the whole situation in my eyes.
Speaker 2: And again that's also why I don't trust, yeah, fully
Speaker 2: trust any of the paperwork or any of the anything
Speaker 2: that you know, no offense that it came from an
Speaker 2: intelligence agency in this country. Yeah, dear God, I met
Speaker 2: some of these people.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, there's people respond there's my stance on it. That
Speaker 2: tells me everything I need to know. Because anyone that
Speaker 2: listens to your show, anyone that has years, they haven't
Speaker 2: had much nice to say about each other. At all
Speaker 2: since yeah, before he was president the first time, and.
Speaker 1: It's just been Obama's always been vocal, he's always He's
Speaker 1: always put a video or response. But he's been so
Speaker 1: silent on this accusation. And is it really an accusation
Speaker 1: or or or as you said, there's not because they
Speaker 1: know that they just got caught to a degree that
Speaker 1: they can't fucking explain this one away. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, node, I mean that could be it just like yeah,
Speaker 2: and I saw them talking more about, you know, the
Speaker 2: Russia stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he hasn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't even respond to that.
Speaker 1: It was something. No. That's another one which.
Speaker 2: Is really amazing, how like that all you know, finally,
Speaker 2: I don't know why one's like it's public knowledge. Now
Speaker 2: it's been fucking public knowledge. Where the like, where the
Speaker 2: fuck is?
Speaker 1: Like what fuck? Man?
Speaker 2: Like we knew this back at like like even the
Speaker 2: guy that investigated it for all that.
Speaker 1: Whole entire and all the evidence they had against Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton's involvement, the like they got a special counsel to
Speaker 1: look into it because he was apparently such a bad dude,
Speaker 1: you know, Trump with all of it.
Speaker 2: And all they came up. This was Hillary paid for
Speaker 2: what they like, he didn't do anything, like, he wasn't
Speaker 2: in contact with any of them. Don't get me going
Speaker 2: on the servers and how they hacked into it, and
Speaker 2: she had like, you know, seventeen devices, god knows how
Speaker 2: many servers and hard drugs.
Speaker 1: What the fuck was she doing with her own personal
Speaker 1: servers at her house with this fucking info. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: and I think I heard if anything came out from this,
Speaker 1: that if anything, Russia had information on Hillary that day.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Jesse isn't really stirring.
Speaker 2: Is this news?
Speaker 1: Is this really news for America? Like for any country
Speaker 1: that outside influence is always there. They're like, there's always
Speaker 1: some outside.
Speaker 2: News for I think it's news for certain parts of society,
Speaker 2: like for all of us that yeah, have the ears right,
Speaker 2: have like experience in life, Yeah, have left their hometown.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the difference here, Jesse is that the evidence Okay,
Speaker 1: I think the difference here is that the Trump administration
Speaker 1: he's got enough people in place, like the FBI, for example.
Speaker 1: And that's another discussion because I'm not necessarily completely impressed
Speaker 1: with what's been going on there with Patel and fucking Bongino.
Speaker 1: But regardless, he's got enough of his people that he
Speaker 1: trusts in place. And maybe the difference now is they
Speaker 1: know that they're not going to stop digging and exposing
Speaker 1: the evidence, and they don't have access anymore to bury it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the difference this time around.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I mean they did it to themselves. Now,
Speaker 2: that's the second Trump was gone there revoked everybody's everything,
Speaker 2: which no one ever did before. Immediately, I mean he
Speaker 2: even waited on some of the people to tell them
Speaker 2: to kick rocks and revoke their like, like he was
Speaker 2: nicer about it than you know, shit he was. He
Speaker 2: didn't even well, he was in mar Lago. He quit
Speaker 2: that morning. He was gone away early. But like the
Speaker 2: first thing they did was revoke all of everyone's stuff
Speaker 2: to be able to look at anything and do anything like, sorry,
Speaker 2: well none you have access anything.
Speaker 1: I agree with though no one once they're gone that
Speaker 1: should Yeah, you're no longer serving, you're no longer for
Speaker 1: you don't need it.
Speaker 2: That turns you into John Carrey flying in his private
Speaker 2: jet going and trying to you know, influence things because
Speaker 2: he still has access to, you know, everything. He just
Speaker 2: happens to be the first name that comes to mind,
Speaker 2: But he did. He still had all the access in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: And you shouldn't. Trump.
Speaker 2: You didn't get rid of all of that. Trump didn't
Speaker 2: get rid of all their stuff out there, you know
Speaker 2: when he went in the first time. You know, he
Speaker 2: kept the thing going, and then we all saw that Gune.
Speaker 2: None of them, I don't even care when he's on
Speaker 2: if they don't have a role in the government. Yeah,
Speaker 2: why the hell do you need access to none of them?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what party you're part of or who
Speaker 1: you are, like anything.
Speaker 2: Like if you're not in the government kicking rocks, it's
Speaker 2: like if there's on any of us. Yeah, if any
Speaker 2: of us got fired or left the job, what happens
Speaker 2: right away? Your access, your email, your your your account,
Speaker 2: everything is done. You have you no longer able to participate,
Speaker 2: monitor anything anything. You're separated from that, from that company
Speaker 2: to the movie The Rock with Nicholas Cage, you're on
Speaker 2: need no basis.
Speaker 1: Exactly and you don't need to know. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna hope that all of this. I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope this whole epscene thing doesn't get drug out for
Speaker 1: another you know, three years, like we're gonna wait till
Speaker 1: the end of Trump's turn, but there's rumors that things
Speaker 1: are gonna happen here really soon. Obama's response or non
Speaker 1: responses is a dead giveaway, as you said, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think I think that's a that's
Speaker 1: a bigger issue that's being ignored because they don't have
Speaker 1: a response. They have nothing right now. And then you
Speaker 1: know the whole But but we do have to discuss this.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that there's a fracture within Trump's administration
Speaker 1: because it seems like BONDI she what she says is
Speaker 1: always being contradicted by Ptel for example, and she, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, the first the first phase, fucking binders.
Speaker 1: That's another debacle. But anyway, the first phase, she has
Speaker 1: the evidence. She goes, there's thousands of hours of videos
Speaker 1: that we got to go through, and there's so much picture,
Speaker 1: so much of it's all my desk. It's all my desk.
Speaker 1: And then Betel, oh, we don't have anything. We looked
Speaker 1: into it, so hope there's nothing. There's just nothing there.
Speaker 1: And then bon Gino, he killed himself, you know, the
Speaker 1: biggest actor, right, all of a sudden. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else you want me to say?
Speaker 1: He killed himself like, and now they're going to release
Speaker 1: video evidence of him killing himself when the camera is
Speaker 1: conveniently didn't work at the time. So what do you
Speaker 1: think is happening there? What's what is the rift and
Speaker 1: separation or is it just all misdirection and meant to
Speaker 1: keep us guessing. I'm hoping it's that. I'm hoping, you know.
Speaker 2: And you got to think she said there's a minute missing,
Speaker 2: then they're going to release, you know, everything, get everything
Speaker 2: put together after that minute, and then suddenly there's three
Speaker 2: minutes missing or something. Yeah, yeah, I think that there's Yeah,
Speaker 2: between all of them, there seems to be a bigger
Speaker 2: picture of something between them. I mean, but even Trump
Speaker 2: has you know, said things that contradicted you know, Pam
Speaker 2: Bondi has said, you know, on some things, you know,
Speaker 2: not everything. You know, he'd say one thing, she'd be
Speaker 2: saying another thing. Granted he's an asshole, he doesn't care,
Speaker 2: but he could be trying to misdirect everybody, pulling the
Speaker 2: gotcha just you know, But something doesn't seem copa set kosher.
Speaker 2: Perhaps that's what it's sudden, seems off of it. I
Speaker 2: hope it's just mis direction. I mean I don't know
Speaker 2: what's going on in there, but yeah, apparently her relationship,
Speaker 2: you know, when she was down there and going after Yeah,
Speaker 2: at Stein and I having all kinds of different Like
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff floating around. We've all read it,
Speaker 2: we've all seen it. I just hope it's misdirection. Now
Speaker 2: could it be just people lying through their teeth? I
Speaker 2: mean it's the federal government, Yeah, but obviously, especially at
Speaker 2: the DJ.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to question whether or not Bondi is the
Speaker 1: one lying. Yeah, you know, I don't know if she is.
Speaker 1: I mean she she's the ag. Like why would she
Speaker 1: publicly the person who's directing all law enforcement right say
Speaker 1: one thing and then have the FBI or other departments
Speaker 1: agree with her and then go well after for the review.
Speaker 1: You know, there's really nothing. So someone's getting too pattel
Speaker 1: and and you can't ignore the fucking one eighty with Patel.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get in there and expose like he had
Speaker 1: he had access to certain information before he was there.
Speaker 1: Now he's there, Suddenly he doesn't. Suddenly there's nothing that
Speaker 1: he can do at all, Like you're the fucking director,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And then it looks like
Speaker 1: Boon Gino's just playing the part. Or I had this
Speaker 1: discussion with another guest of mine and he had he
Speaker 1: made a good point about bongino I and I kind
Speaker 1: of I kind of agree with him. Is that you know, look,
Speaker 1: he gave up this career in podcasting, this making millions
Speaker 1: of dollars a year, one of the biggest shows there was,
Speaker 1: you know, at least in the politics and space, he
Speaker 1: was huge, and then he stepped into something with his experience,
Speaker 1: right you know, secret service, et cetera, and didn't realize
Speaker 1: how deep it went. And now he's stuck. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, how do I I can't how do I
Speaker 1: get out of this? I don't think he can actually
Speaker 1: say what he really feels or because definitely yeah, so
Speaker 1: oh yeah absolutely so. I don't think he wants to
Speaker 1: fuck his relationships up, right, like his access and his
Speaker 1: relationship to the administration. But at the same time, you
Speaker 1: can see the disappointment. You can see like he's like
Speaker 1: I want to say something, I know things, but I can't.
Speaker 1: Now is he under a threat? Do you think there's
Speaker 1: some kind of threat hanging over his head, and he's
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that I think maybe not concerned
Speaker 1: with him in his personal safety so much as maybe
Speaker 1: his family, his wife, etc. Do you think there's something
Speaker 1: like that that might be going on when it comes
Speaker 1: to people like Bongino, who and and even Patel who
Speaker 1: are so adamant about all the corruption and everything they're exposed,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's like they're just
Speaker 1: fucking parting the same old shit, the previous fad that
Speaker 1: goes back to you know what I said earlier.
Speaker 2: You know certain players in there. Yeah, they knew it
Speaker 2: was there. They knew it was there. Then they saw,
Speaker 2: like you said, how deep it actually went. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: even though they know it's there. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of tongue biting, yeah, or like the Undertaker used
Speaker 2: to say, how he kept himself from you know, not
Speaker 2: breaking character. He just bite him inside of his lip
Speaker 2: as hard as humanly possible just to keep that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: There's I think there's yeah part that because there's no
Speaker 2: way they didn't get in there and then suddenly go
Speaker 2: holy shit, yeah because the holy shit. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it a beets ya know what we both said. I
Speaker 2: think that they stepped into a bigger pile than they imagined,
Speaker 2: and they want to say things.
Speaker 1: But again, if there's people you know, royalty and you know,
Speaker 1: all these other people involved, and you know, again family safety,
Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of things that can go into
Speaker 1: if you know, they exposed all of those people, you know,
Speaker 1: not at the right time, and all that that can
Speaker 1: cause you know.
Speaker 2: Irreparable harm you know to them loved one all that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's definitely part of it. But you could
Speaker 2: definitely tell the dance well you're in front of don't
Speaker 2: let it down on the side of the His body
Speaker 2: language is not of someone that's exactly happy with what
Speaker 2: they're saying. Doesn't seem himself for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not very comfortable with his other I'm trying
Speaker 1: to give him that. I'm trying to give him that
Speaker 1: that credit.
Speaker 2: Trying to give him that much.
Speaker 1: I don't want to believe that he's he's a bought
Speaker 1: and chill you know, Yeah, nobody does. But what we're
Speaker 1: seeing is complete opposite of what was right. So all right, look,
Speaker 1: we beat this Epstein whatever thing up enough. We're never
Speaker 1: gonna know until we know, like we're speculator.
Speaker 2: When I told someone like Nomber, like, why don't you care?
Speaker 1: Like I care?
Speaker 2: But it's one of those until someone does anything, like,
Speaker 2: we're only gonna know as much as we know, and
Speaker 2: there's things that are actually happening that yeah, we know
Speaker 2: about again via like we talked about you know, the economy.
Speaker 2: You know, like there's all kinds of actual, real things
Speaker 2: that we know what's going on on. Right, So Epstein's
Speaker 2: no offense to the world. Feel bad for the victims,
Speaker 2: you know, heart goes out all of that. But until
Speaker 2: whoever decides we can actually know, No, yeah, we're never
Speaker 2: gonna know.
Speaker 1: No, I agree. I just I'm just not one to
Speaker 1: buy into the dismissal of suddenly no evidence, and so
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't believe that's my thing.
Speaker 1: I do agree with you. It's like I think we
Speaker 1: are ourselves right now. I think people are given too
Speaker 1: much air to this. Look, we know there's evidence, we
Speaker 1: know there's a list, we know it's being worked on.
Speaker 1: And this isn't a gotcha moment for Trump or the
Speaker 1: Trump administration. If anything, what's coming out is a big
Speaker 1: gotcha moment for the Democrats who are in fucking charge
Speaker 1: all these years. And that's not even ignore the fact
Speaker 1: that during Trump's first term, who had majority of the
Speaker 1: of the Congress Democrats.
Speaker 2: You know, so he got impeached twice.
Speaker 1: Right, So, like there's a bigger story to tell here
Speaker 1: outside of you know, the conspiracy that that people are ignoring.
Speaker 1: But you're right, like at this point, it's like everyone's
Speaker 1: saying what they got to say. Everyone's getting their clicks
Speaker 1: and likes and their fucking eyeballs off this thing, and
Speaker 1: it's it's time to like, you know, not forget, but
Speaker 1: but let's let's let them play this out, you know,
Speaker 1: let's see where it goes. Because obviously, like you said,
Speaker 1: Obama's silence is a big tell in this whole thing
Speaker 1: right now, So.
Speaker 2: Don't forget, like god knows how many of our intelligence
Speaker 2: agencies that we're involved in it. Somehow there's such a
Speaker 2: bigger web than anyone ever thinks of on it just
Speaker 2: relationship like this thing, this thing spun a web, spunny yard,
Speaker 2: I don't care what phrase you want, And it's huge
Speaker 2: and if involved you know, bearing our intelligence stuff that
Speaker 2: also his stuff that you know they have to do.
Speaker 2: Kid gloves and make sure they have every single damn
Speaker 2: thing dotted crossed random motherfuckers through grammarly to make sure
Speaker 2: that you know, like they have to, they have to,
Speaker 2: you have to do it properly, because I think it's
Speaker 2: again bigger than anyone ever give credit to.
Speaker 1: And I don't trust our intelligence. So that's another story.
Speaker 1: But well, let's let's let's move on to a lighter
Speaker 1: topic that's kind of more fun. Old Bear, Good for him,
Speaker 1: Old Bear. What do you think, man? All Bear? He's
Speaker 1: so uh canceled and not coming back ever, and not
Speaker 1: just him but the show itself, so which is a shame. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of history before. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of the.
Speaker 2: Lenno and then you know.
Speaker 1: Parson, you know all of it that it had such
Speaker 1: a run when it was actually like just interviewing guests,
Speaker 1: you know it. It's just you know, whether we whether
Speaker 1: we agree with these people or not. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least for the most part, they they kept it fairly neutral.
Speaker 1: I mean, they always had a little bit that the
Speaker 1: inflect in terms of politics, but not to the level
Speaker 1: that Colbert did. And I'm not sure if that was
Speaker 1: Colbert himself or the decision of the network at the
Speaker 1: time because his previous show, That's pretty much what it was, right,
Speaker 1: it was just parody and you know, sarcasm in politics,
Speaker 1: and I'll admit, I mean I didn't even care he
Speaker 1: was liberal. I laughed. I thought it was funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you can't see both sides and laugh, I
Speaker 1: mean sorry that I can. I can do that. But
Speaker 1: when when he came over to to host, uh forgot
Speaker 1: Late Show tonight. I don't even pay attention, even myself,
Speaker 1: but when he came over to host the Late Show,
Speaker 1: I think that something definitely changed. It wasn't the same. Uh,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the same, or didn't appear to be. So
Speaker 1: the excuse that the reason he is canceled is because
Speaker 1: of Trump is fucking ridiculous. Losing forty was it forty
Speaker 1: million a year? Just oh, fifty million, somewhere between forty
Speaker 1: and so as a business, if you're losing fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year and someone punches your ticket and they say,
Speaker 1: we can't afford to do this anymore, how was that
Speaker 1: got anything to do with Trump? Like you were losing money?
Speaker 1: I think it was in their second or third season, right,
Speaker 1: is when the decline started really happening. He oh what
Speaker 1: you got? Oh yes, I was waiting for this. I
Speaker 1: still got my notes. It's for seved time. They were
Speaker 1: just way too far away. But all right, well let's
Speaker 1: take it away. Let's take it away. You you you
Speaker 1: let us know.
Speaker 2: What's up with the okay, Well, I mean if we
Speaker 2: go back to Leno between two thousand and two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine, you know, five to six million average, which
Speaker 2: isn't bad. You know, it's not you know, the Carson numbers,
Speaker 2: but it's still you know, good. Twenty ten to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: when he came back because the other guy sucks so bad,
Speaker 2: three point eight to four, which was declined. His final
Speaker 2: episode got fourteen point six million, which that's a hell
Speaker 2: of a number. Thenyone says, Fallon's debut, even though you
Speaker 2: know they're ten seconds apart, was down to eleven point
Speaker 2: three million, just you know. Debut twenty thirteen, the average
Speaker 2: was one point seven. Fallon twenty twelve was at one
Speaker 2: point one to two million average. Colbert took over in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen at three million, and since then it went
Speaker 2: to two point four. Twenty seventeen it jumped up to
Speaker 2: three point two. You know, when all the non stop
Speaker 2: bashing Trump and Republicans, twenty eighteen was at three point seven,
Speaker 2: we saw three point eight and twenty nineteen three point six.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, then they lost half a million, average
Speaker 2: went down to three point one, and then they've been
Speaker 2: hovering around two and a half million since twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two to include the end of around what two four
Speaker 2: we're seeing them And.
Speaker 1: In these numbers, just Survey knows you're you're you're referring
Speaker 1: to viewership.
Speaker 2: Yes, hit viewers on average, and all of those include
Speaker 2: the people that recorded on their DVR and watch it
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: So they're trying to politicize a business decision, right, everything
Speaker 1: based on numbers.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. When it happened, yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my god. I was up way too late, way
Speaker 2: like I don't even remember what happened.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was like four point thirty in the morning that day.
Speaker 2: Like I was just going and going and going and
Speaker 2: going going. I don't know, like because I got into
Speaker 2: the comments and she was like, look I want and
Speaker 2: I had to drive a third McDonald's because she wanted
Speaker 2: to diet coke because we just went down the hole
Speaker 2: and we were driving and I was just like, and
Speaker 2: it was just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, the dictator. My
Speaker 2: favorite one is I hope is rapist in chief as
Speaker 2: they called it, but I don't like to say the word,
Speaker 2: but you know, it would be really fun. As the
Speaker 2: Marine Corps has a group that goes over everyone social
Speaker 2: media to make sure they're not doing anything stupid or
Speaker 2: post anything stupid and they get in trouble if they do.
Speaker 2: He should get one of those and find every single comment,
Speaker 2: every single person that said that, because if he owns it,
Speaker 2: you know, he got Stephanopoulos, you got CBS, he can
Speaker 2: get all of you and hear that he didn't actually
Speaker 2: get found guilty of no, no, and then he could
Speaker 2: just own all of them. I don't like being petty,
Speaker 2: but you know what, if they're going to be this
Speaker 2: petty for this long, I say bury them, because it
Speaker 2: turns out, you know, ABCNBCCBS, all of them since twenty
Speaker 2: eighteen have lost, you know, an average of four hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty nine million dollars in AD revenue combined to
Speaker 2: include his fifty.
Speaker 1: Isn't this an admission of the change though in American
Speaker 1: culture and what people want, like it's me. I think
Speaker 1: I think the Democrat Party is in so much show
Speaker 1: because they can't acknowledge that their way of thinking and
Speaker 1: their messaging is no one's buying it anymore. But when
Speaker 1: it comes when it comes to Colbert, I want to
Speaker 1: keep it about I want to keep this about business
Speaker 1: for a second. Fifty million dollars, Ye, fifty million dollars here.
Speaker 1: Why does a show? Why does a show like that
Speaker 1: need over one hundred employees? Which is very much what
Speaker 1: you and I do. Look, it's it's a live podcast,
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Talk shows are are the precursor
Speaker 1: to podcasting. Why And at the most, you know, they
Speaker 1: have multiple camera people, I get it three If you
Speaker 1: have three camera positions, greats and get different angles. But
Speaker 1: they have a guest, they have a host. Do you
Speaker 1: need the band? No? But they got one? Okay, where
Speaker 1: are the other employees? Do you need twenty four fucking
Speaker 1: writers for you to speak your mind and ask people questions?
Speaker 1: And most of these interviews are such shit because it's
Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen minute segments and then bring in
Speaker 1: the next guy, like there's not enough time to have
Speaker 1: a real conversation anyway, So why can't they just acknowledge
Speaker 1: that people have moved on. They want long form conversations
Speaker 1: so they can get to know who people really are.
Speaker 1: And they're also just absorbing media differently. I mean they're
Speaker 1: looking at YouTube, they're looking at podcasts, they're looking at
Speaker 1: you know, shorts and reels on Instagram and you know
Speaker 1: X for news and updates. It's they just acknowledge that, look,
Speaker 1: you need to evolve or every show like Colbert is
Speaker 1: in danger of going down the same path. They they
Speaker 1: don't want to admit that. They just want to go
Speaker 1: Trump's fault. I have something to do with Trump. It's business.
Speaker 1: You guys, you've been you've been on the downward spiral
Speaker 1: for years.
Speaker 2: I mean you've lost just I mean, when we have
Speaker 2: three point six million people to you know, talk about
Speaker 2: as your audience, losing a third of that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: huge is bad when you're running huge. And I also
Speaker 2: was commenting, you know people that I did bite on
Speaker 2: some of the comments. Yeah, nothing to do with the
Speaker 2: forty to fifty million dollar holies continuously in that they're
Speaker 2: eating because you know, it's him and like twelve people
Speaker 2: and somehow it's costing hundreds of millions of dollars to
Speaker 2: even do the goddamn thing, and all they're doing the
Speaker 2: whole time is bastardizing half the country. True, Like here's
Speaker 2: a good one, ye Disney, Like how good? How good
Speaker 2: of the numbers worked for anybody when they've done that lately.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how even the middle what they lost,
Speaker 2: They lost the you know people in the middle, you
Speaker 2: know they lost all independence. Like they even went like
Speaker 2: we're done with it because it's just been NonStop and
Speaker 2: we used I think the world, most of the country
Speaker 2: now at least, is finally back onto. We don't want
Speaker 2: to hear it all the time, Like these shows were
Speaker 2: here to entertain us and take our mind off of
Speaker 2: this non stop You said it, like it's not healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not good. It's supposed to be entertain it's supposed
Speaker 2: to be an escape.
Speaker 1: Like not everybody wants to be bombarded with politicization of
Speaker 1: every single topic or politics in general. Like you and
Speaker 1: I do this we can dive into, but not everybody's
Speaker 1: like us and even I, even you, we want the
Speaker 1: time to where we're just we don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about it, Like I just want to watch a movie.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't need the movie to
Speaker 1: try to preach to me about the morality of a
Speaker 1: certain topic or subject based on a leftist view, like
Speaker 1: could we just keep it about, Hey, the kids are
Speaker 1: playing in the playground, they're just having fun. Do we
Speaker 1: have to politicize the interaction between the kids and how
Speaker 1: this person's getting left out and it's not equitable and
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here with that? Can Can
Speaker 1: we just have a little bit of an escape? Can
Speaker 1: we can? We can we have a storytell or told
Speaker 1: to us that doesn't have to be politicized, like even
Speaker 1: the New Superman? Right, what the fuck is with that?
Speaker 2: I heard? I haven't watched it. I wasn't gonna watch
Speaker 2: it in the first time.
Speaker 1: Put well, I haven't watched it either in middlely, but
Speaker 1: I've heard like you, and I've got her feedback from
Speaker 1: many people that like, what the fuck? And that that
Speaker 1: right there from wanting to watch it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, look at snow White, Look well that
Speaker 2: did that was I couldn't I draw the things that
Speaker 2: she said and kept saying. But it's amazing how I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that they're dying on that hill. How
Speaker 2: much and they're still like every time tell me everyone
Speaker 2: else tell him too. Every single like I'm scrolling just
Speaker 2: because you get bored.
Speaker 1: And you're just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And every single one that Disney Plus or any of
Speaker 2: them does is about how fantastic that mos non stock,
Speaker 2: Like they don't show anything else. That's all I see
Speaker 2: is her face in that movie. I'm like dank, like
Speaker 2: Jesus for the love of Holy Hell. Terrifire Free made
Speaker 2: money at the box office just here at Home alone
Speaker 2: compared to snow White all together. You know how much
Speaker 2: money they put into one compared to the other. What
Speaker 2: I could tell you Terrifier was very minimal compared to that,
Speaker 2: And it is crazy. That tells you something. Watching art
Speaker 2: mall table was more of a selling point to the world.
Speaker 2: Taking your kids to see a snow White like that
Speaker 2: says everything. And again, look at SNL's ratings, Like if
Speaker 2: you look at all the ratings, as everyone says, it's
Speaker 2: just the ratings rating. We have the best show in
Speaker 2: the hour like yeah, trans Relations gut Feld still slaughters
Speaker 2: you an hour before that. What Like it's the content
Speaker 2: because at least he brings I don't watch them. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, at least there's some humor to it.
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of them anymore. I don't watch shit.
Speaker 1: I catch nothing, you know. Can we address this though,
Speaker 1: like okay, Bolbar is saying the gloves are off? Now, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: what the fuck do they mean? We don't mean the
Speaker 1: gloves are off? What do you get to do? Nothing?
Speaker 1: But the reality is, if you were so concerned about
Speaker 1: saving the show that you believed in, why didn't you
Speaker 1: come to the table and renegotiate your fucking salary If
Speaker 1: it was that important because you were the high like
Speaker 1: you were the anchor of the show. How much money
Speaker 1: were they spending just on you? Right? I guarantee three
Speaker 1: quarters of that fifty million went to him, or at
Speaker 1: least half, and the rest, you know, went to running
Speaker 1: the show in some way or another.
Speaker 2: Need that much to run it?
Speaker 1: They didn't. Fuck no, you don't ye.
Speaker 2: It's the uh sorry, you know NFL fans if you
Speaker 2: like the guy. But it's like the comparison between let's
Speaker 2: say Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. You know, they
Speaker 2: restructured everything so they'd get it through incentives, so it
Speaker 2: wasn't on the caps, so they could have players around
Speaker 2: them and keep doing good absolutely compared to let's say
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. So I don't want to be the highest
Speaker 2: paid forever. And then he complains because we only get
Speaker 2: so far, we're not getting like, well, they only get
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money and you're taking like a
Speaker 2: third of it on your own. There's another hole that
Speaker 2: dozens of people that have to also play. It's hard
Speaker 2: to pay you know you and then DeVante Adams and
Speaker 2: then another guy, and I mean another guy, and why
Speaker 2: don't have weapons because you get paid so much? But
Speaker 2: that's it's not incentive based. You want it all guaranteed,
Speaker 2: which means there's no money to go nowhere.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect example. That's a great example of how
Speaker 1: these these shows are being treated like you're the rock star,
Speaker 1: you're the quarterback. And and when you said about like
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Brady or whatever, yeah, they had enough
Speaker 1: sense to realize that if I want the team to
Speaker 1: be built around me, that I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: give a little to make this work. And none of
Speaker 1: these guys do. They're so self important that the world
Speaker 1: spins around them in their mind. Without me, you're nothing. Well,
Speaker 1: guess right, now everybody's nothing. No, no, nobody's no, nobody
Speaker 1: has a job.
Speaker 2: But I am happy that they rebranded it from the
Speaker 2: Tonight Show to the Light Show because at least when
Speaker 2: it went to a pile of shit, at least it
Speaker 2: wasn't well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, can't you can't, you can't. Yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: to put a standing person's name there. But the so
Speaker 1: what's next from Internet? Is it gonna be Is it
Speaker 1: gonna be like streams on Blue Sky or something? Wherever
Speaker 1: the fuck he uses? Like where is he going to go?
Speaker 1: Is he good? Is he gonna continue to get the support? Like, look,
Speaker 1: look what happened to uh Don Lemon? He thought he
Speaker 1: thought he was the most important talking head on seeing
Speaker 1: it went and got to deal with X through Elon Moss.
Speaker 1: He fucked that relationship up because he was too far left.
Speaker 1: He couldn't realize you know that you can't bite the
Speaker 1: hand that feeds you. And then he thought that on
Speaker 1: his own he was enough. And where the fuck is
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: And remember while he's married to that white dude, that
Speaker 2: white people are the devil and we're the most dangerous
Speaker 2: people on the planet. Or let's go back to what
Speaker 2: was his name on Fox News Chris Wallace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the Murmers.
Speaker 2: On the Big And he went to the built CNN
Speaker 2: plus around you and it lasted literally like four days.
Speaker 2: And where the hell did you go? Because you weren't
Speaker 2: worth it? You guys, aren't this brew haha? A big special?
Speaker 2: You know anything? And if you're just gonna like people
Speaker 2: want more? Why do you think Joe Rogan is so popular?
Speaker 2: I think because he talks to everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get exact. I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: that he doesn't care if he if he finds you interesting,
Speaker 1: you're on the show, if he thinks you might have
Speaker 1: something to say with you. Yeah. And the other biggest,
Speaker 1: biggest example of this self importance, like Joy read No
Speaker 1: one cares the readout is canceled. Don't care. No, it's
Speaker 1: because you're an asshole. I'm surprised Rachel Madhouse still has
Speaker 1: a show.
Speaker 2: Well, mad Coin still needs her spot.
Speaker 1: You have to have someone needs someone, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I'm lay that that Circle back Sak got shoot
Speaker 2: in by MSNBC for reruns. Oh that was great that
Speaker 2: they canceled her. What did they put in her place? Reruns?
Speaker 2: Like you're so bad?
Speaker 1: Hey, jen Saki, How okay, we want to talk about
Speaker 1: a decline? How do you go to being the greatest
Speaker 1: fucking spinster we ever seen? It didn't matter who she served,
Speaker 1: what administration, she was the best. I'm sorry, it was
Speaker 1: fucking great. How do you go from that to having
Speaker 1: a show where you look like you're like drunk eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the time. When you heard her talk, it
Speaker 1: was like, I'm like, what happened to Jensky? What happened
Speaker 1: to her? She probably did what she probably was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to accuse her of it, but just
Speaker 1: seem that way, you know, Yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Do what you gotta do to deal with being in
Speaker 2: that yeah spin zone of just just stress it again,
Speaker 2: bash your head against the wall, drink a bottle of scotch.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's Nancy Pelosi, her opinion.
Speaker 1: I all right, the Scotch, Well, Scotch does have his place,
Speaker 1: I know. Listen, so the whole Colbert thing, everybody had
Speaker 1: a melt down. I think the world needs to move on.
Speaker 1: I think, well most of the world did. He's trying
Speaker 1: to hang on to his his uh, you know, his
Speaker 1: own vision of his self importance.
Speaker 2: We'll start a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean that that's what these guys are
Speaker 1: going to do, and you know, hey, good luck to him.
Speaker 1: But I think this is just a a mission to
Speaker 1: something that has been going on, that that you know,
Speaker 1: the left has been ignoring for so long, and that
Speaker 1: is America no longer sees it the way you do.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're not going to ever have
Speaker 1: someone that agrees with them, because you know, there's always
Speaker 1: more than you know, one viewpoint one in more than
Speaker 1: one side to the story. But at the same time
Speaker 1: they're there, they can't come to the reality that they're
Speaker 1: they're losing it. And the Democrat Party in and of itself,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Colbert's part of the party, but it
Speaker 1: was a fucking, very very liberal show. Let's not ignore
Speaker 1: that their mouth pieces absolutely and and the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: now is so fractured they don't even have a leader.
Speaker 1: Who is next Who's going to be the presidential nominee? Like,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen AOC, isn't it? Jasmine Crockett is
Speaker 1: forget that racist piece of ship, and who do we
Speaker 1: have who? Who? Gavin Newsom is doing his tour, that
Speaker 1: guy is horrible. I mean, fuck the appearance he just
Speaker 1: had on Sean Ryan. I mean, to be honest, Sean
Speaker 1: Ryan fucking softball. That whole thing didn't really press him
Speaker 1: for anything, even though there's tons of facts and data
Speaker 1: that he Sean Ryan's supposed to be known for bringing
Speaker 1: it out of people. I didn't see any of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about. That shouldn't even
Speaker 1: have been I'm sorry, but I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: But Newsome's on this tour and he's a governor. He
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in North Carolina, he shouldn't be in Texas,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be anywhere doing you know, media opportunities with with
Speaker 1: anybody when he has a complete state that he's letting
Speaker 1: fall apart and can't even keep together. But wants to
Speaker 1: convince the rest of the world of how greedy is
Speaker 1: for the rest of the United States anyway, So he'd
Speaker 1: be a hell of a choice, though it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I already have a talbot, I know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, don't worry, there are enough of us. He's
Speaker 1: a silver tongue guy about just how.
Speaker 2: Much he fucking sucks that we'd be okay with that one,
Speaker 2: because there's no saving him wildfires you COVID French laundry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, my theory is he's doing this to become the guy.
Speaker 1: Like I think he's trying to get enough recognition across
Speaker 1: the United States and with other Democrats that he will
Speaker 1: be the guy that will be able to carry weight
Speaker 1: when he says I endorse this person. I think that's
Speaker 1: what he's going for. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: trying to build himself up to be one of the
Speaker 1: fact the leaders of the party, just like Obama was
Speaker 1: for so many years, right, nobody cared about Obama. I
Speaker 1: mean he was out, he was, but but when he
Speaker 1: when he said I endorse this or he gives a speech,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody pays. I think that's what
Speaker 1: Newsom's trying to do. I don't know if he's actually
Speaker 1: going to go for the president. I think he's just
Speaker 1: trying to be the guy. I think he's trying to
Speaker 1: be the the the guiding light of the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: so that whatever he says, whatever happens, it carries weight
Speaker 1: and he has influence. My theory is.
Speaker 2: Great if he ran yeah, never snowflakes. Chance like there's
Speaker 2: enough of us that know he lives rent free. And
Speaker 2: I just know this slime ball when I see a
Speaker 2: slide ball, and uh, it'd be nice. But again, I
Speaker 2: don't know who they're gonna have run. I saw what
Speaker 2: was it, Krasenstein whatever he pronounced his last name, and
Speaker 2: his brother talking about how we were afraid and we
Speaker 2: wouldn't know what to do with ourselves as AOC and
Speaker 2: Jasmine Crockett ran twenty twenty. I'm like, yeah, we would
Speaker 2: what that would be Jesus crow, But they thought they
Speaker 2: lost the independence with Kamala. You put those two shining
Speaker 2: stars up there, like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even think they could stand each
Speaker 1: other enough to campaign together.
Speaker 2: Be like ten millions. Oh my god, I think of
Speaker 2: our sentages. We would we would get like that eighty
Speaker 2: one million that we all want.
Speaker 1: How the hell did he get that? I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even think they aligned Jesse, honestly, I don't, But.
Speaker 2: Jesus, I mean it's coming from Crescent Side so or
Speaker 2: whatever his last That guy sucks him, met his brother,
Speaker 2: All of them, they just look like the beaches. But
Speaker 2: once they said that, I was like, like, dude, Jesus Christ, like,
Speaker 2: whoever's paying you? What appointment in my direction?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be stupid like you, but take
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 1: Holy.
Speaker 2: They don't have anyone. They just have speeches and Corey
Speaker 2: Booker running his suckhole. And I mean, have him run
Speaker 2: against Corey Booker. Everyone hates Corey Booker. What do you.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this third party option that
Speaker 1: Elon's trying to push.
Speaker 2: I think Elon needs to stay in his lane and
Speaker 2: shut the.
Speaker 1: Fuck up, all right, I mean think about.
Speaker 2: It, because we all have you know, cognitive thinking abilities,
Speaker 2: you know, critical thinking skills. No matter what, the people
Speaker 2: that still voted for Kamala are still going to vote
Speaker 2: that way. There's no saving It doesn't matter what the
Speaker 2: hell we do, Orange Godzilla, Hitler bad. Yeah, no matter what.
Speaker 2: And if we got another party, all that would do
Speaker 2: is take votes away from the Republicans. The Democrats are
Speaker 2: voting Democrat no matter except for that. You know four
Speaker 2: million people that suddenly fucking vanished, that came out of
Speaker 2: nowhere in twenty twenty, and then they made him out
Speaker 2: to be even worse. But somehow they weren't there. Yeahda
Speaker 2: YadA YadA. Well, I mean it's funny. They're all about
Speaker 2: this except for that one year suddenly there's this big
Speaker 2: blip that makes no sense if you look at the
Speaker 2: actual numbers per party. I have that somewhere too, but
Speaker 2: it's not in that notebook, so I'm not digging.
Speaker 1: Also, okay, but I mean I want you to give
Speaker 1: everything away on my show. I mean, you have episodes
Speaker 1: to do and release, so I mean I would just
Speaker 1: encourage people to listen to you and and and God
Speaker 1: did a deeper dive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it would take it would take away from
Speaker 2: the Republicans. That's all another party would do because Democrats,
Speaker 2: the lefties are going to vote lefty. So I mean,
Speaker 2: look at Pennsylvania. They had a dead guy on the ballot, right,
Speaker 2: and that died like what two weeks before the thing,
Speaker 2: and he still won because they were too lazy to
Speaker 2: take his name off the ballot and put someone else
Speaker 2: just on there, like they voted for a dead person.
Speaker 2: That proves the point. It doesn't prove the point.
Speaker 1: And that proves the problem with with with with with voters,
Speaker 1: in the education that voters have, they just they just
Speaker 1: look at the ballot and go, oh, I recognize that name,
Speaker 1: and they're Democrat or the Republican. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: going to check off, Like you might want to look
Speaker 1: into the candidates a bit.
Speaker 2: But doesn't matter. So a third party in the American Party,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell he wants to call it, it's just
Speaker 2: going to take away.
Speaker 1: And you agree though, that we do need more options
Speaker 1: and diversity in our choices.
Speaker 2: We need we need to revamp the whole entire thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been too many lease, you know, who's
Speaker 2: they know best worst case scenario? You know, shall we
Speaker 2: say absolutely that is? I think it needs to be
Speaker 2: completely redone. There's other things I don't like, like, let's
Speaker 2: say twenty twenty example, because I don't know the Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: map from twenty twenty four in my head, even though
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure all the same counties that were blue
Speaker 2: were still blue. He just happened to turn some of
Speaker 2: the more purple. So he won the state. But you know,
Speaker 2: Philly and you know that one right there, Chester count
Speaker 2: with those two are out there, Pittsburgh and then the
Speaker 2: dumbasses in Lackawanna County. So I find i'd Scranton has
Speaker 2: fall in the complete and utter disarray place, you know,
Speaker 2: where near what it used to be. What the hell
Speaker 2: do I know? I was only there? Yeah, those four
Speaker 2: were Yeah, three, we're the counties that Joe won. And
Speaker 2: then joke up the whole state and they say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not only the rich people, like the
Speaker 2: people that can afford to live in the big cities
Speaker 2: where the population is that matter make all the choices
Speaker 2: for the ninety seven percent rural state.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's also the problem of California.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you know, I was just talking about that
Speaker 2: with Hannah. Yeah, was like, but there has to be
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say that there has
Speaker 2: to be a better way, but like someone shouldn't just win,
Speaker 2: like the two major cities in the state, lose the
Speaker 2: rest of it and then win just because there's more
Speaker 2: people that live there than the rest of the state.
Speaker 2: But those are the people that can afford to live there,
Speaker 2: you know, spend that kind of you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: have you seen the price of living in Philly. It's
Speaker 2: not really the cheapest thing on the planet, But people
Speaker 2: that can afford to be there, and beyond that, the
Speaker 2: sports teams are beyond that.
Speaker 1: I want to circle back to which said earlier because
Speaker 1: the problem we have currently, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: two party system, regardless technically we have more, but nobody
Speaker 1: else has the money, nobody else has the power, and
Speaker 1: it always comes down to, like you you just said earlier,
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils, like, oh, well, these are
Speaker 1: the best options we have based on but they're not
Speaker 1: the best options all the time. They're just the only
Speaker 1: two given the opportunity to vote on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, North Carolina prove that in the governor race, because
Speaker 2: I'm sure you didn't. I mean, you don't get to
Speaker 2: see our ads here.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Kamala was was one of the
Speaker 1: biggest affirmations of that, Like of everybody in the d
Speaker 1: n C, everybody that part of that, part of that
Speaker 1: was the person that was a person who chose to
Speaker 1: replaced fucking Biden.
Speaker 2: Well, we all know why she was picked. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to pull They're trying to pull the two cards,
Speaker 2: which is why she didn't even make an out of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the two cards being two cards. They're like, well, let's
Speaker 2: just say it. They were playing on race and gender period.
Speaker 2: Woman president is black president, and that's what the whole
Speaker 2: thing was about. But people proved that they want more
Speaker 2: than just identity politics, like they want substance. They want
Speaker 2: to know their track record that you're bringing with you
Speaker 2: actually is going to apply to put an American people
Speaker 2: first before party politics. And regardless of what people say
Speaker 2: about Trump, that's what he was offering, whether you agree
Speaker 2: with them or not. He represented those people that were
Speaker 2: tired of the bullshit and that's why he got elected.
Speaker 2: And that's that's why the Democrats fought so hard to
Speaker 2: keep RFK on the ballot because they knew that would
Speaker 2: pull votes away from.
Speaker 1: Trump, right even though he backed out, which that's another thing,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? He literally said, I vacate, I
Speaker 1: am not running, but they wanted.
Speaker 2: To keep him on the ticket, and the Democrats went
Speaker 2: to court tried to keep him on. But that comes
Speaker 2: back to North Carolina too. That was the perfect one,
Speaker 2: you know, because we had Josh Stein who was the Democrat.
Speaker 2: Don't remember anything about his ads. We had seemed like
Speaker 2: a good enough guy whatever I mean, they all seem
Speaker 2: like good enough guy. It's and ads. But the person
Speaker 2: that we picked, the Republican Party in the state picked
Speaker 2: was Mark Robinson. And literally the Democrats all they ran
Speaker 2: the whole time was him talking about yeah, reproductive rights,
Speaker 2: you know, abortion stuff, and his exact word, it just
Speaker 2: played for months, was just because you decided you couldn't
Speaker 2: keep your skirt down doesn't mean that you need to
Speaker 2: have an abortion. And we're all going like, like, you
Speaker 2: guys like on the floor North Carolina. I'm like, so
Speaker 2: he said that in front of everyone and their mother.
Speaker 2: You knew he said it, you knew there was a
Speaker 2: video of it, and this was still the best choice
Speaker 2: the Republicans could come up with.
Speaker 1: But all they had to do was run him saying.
Speaker 2: That, and the other guy won. I again, I'm here.
Speaker 2: I'm stuck when watching racing or anything during those times
Speaker 2: where I have to see those ads NonStop, I couldn't
Speaker 2: tell you anything about Justin just went hey, this guy
Speaker 2: and they played that sound bite, that video and he
Speaker 2: lost because of it. I'm like, you knew he said,
Speaker 2: you knew that was a big issue, and that's still
Speaker 2: like the best thing you guys could come up with.
Speaker 2: Was like, we deserve to lose North Carolina to the governor.
Speaker 2: Like if that's like the best option we had, we
Speaker 2: have a big problem overall, because I know he wasn't
Speaker 2: the only option we had, and you knew the video existed.
Speaker 2: And again it was bad to be the lesser of
Speaker 2: even Republicans, some of them like well him saying that
Speaker 2: lesser of too Evil was the guy that you know,
Speaker 2: they get. That's pretty much been our system for fuck,
Speaker 2: I don't know forever. Yeah, that's been it for far longer.
Speaker 1: Too evil, And and and really, like I've said this before,
Speaker 1: you know, our politics have been nothing more than high
Speaker 1: school popularity contest. It's like, are we really voting on
Speaker 1: people based on their qualifications? I don't know of many
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say any, but I hardly any president
Speaker 1: who was actually literally qualified for the job. Very few,
Speaker 1: very few. We got to fix the system. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna do it. But if we
Speaker 1: don't talk about these things and we just ignore them
Speaker 1: because we're frustrated, it's never going to get there's never
Speaker 1: gonna be an opportunity for someone to think about fixes
Speaker 1: but that way. But look, I'm gonna wrap it up
Speaker 1: here in a bit. And you know, before we go,
Speaker 1: I want I want you to tell people about your show.
Speaker 1: Your show's back, let people know where they can find you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I just look forward to hearing
Speaker 1: more episodes, but go ahead and give people the rundown
Speaker 1: on how to find you, contact you, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Well, if you take yourself, yeah, and you want to
Speaker 2: listen to the Jess Resinski Show, you can't watch it yet,
Speaker 2: but the walls will get done. Things will happen and
Speaker 2: it looks fancy. But if you want to listen to it,
Speaker 2: it's available with Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Spotify for Creators, Good Pods,
Speaker 2: which is where he found me. Yeah, every grateful for
Speaker 2: that thing does help Amazon Music. iHeartRadio, Overcast, Audible, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's other places that I haven't heard of
Speaker 2: that it's on. But it sure isn't on Pandora because
Speaker 2: I submitted it and they said we'll get back to
Speaker 2: you an xt amount of weeks, and somehow, these many
Speaker 2: years later, it still says we'll get back to you
Speaker 2: in so many weeks. Big thumbs up to Pandora. And
Speaker 2: it's also on the website twenty one media dot com.
Speaker 2: All the links to all the platforms to include the
Speaker 2: old episodes are all on there on the page, along
Speaker 2: with my paintings that Jesse Razinski creations on Etsy that
Speaker 2: also has its own page on the website will take
Speaker 2: you right to the Etsy store, you know, for all that.
Speaker 2: And again there's always all the socials. But the easiest
Speaker 2: way if you want to get a hold of me
Speaker 2: is to say I'm a message on the twenty one
Speaker 2: forty six media dot com page, because I actually do
Speaker 2: look at that every day, so it's easier to get
Speaker 2: a hold of me. It's the best way to get
Speaker 2: a hold of me that way because everything else, all
Speaker 2: other platforms spam me and I get all these you know,
Speaker 2: you get all all of them. So I just turned
Speaker 2: all my notifications off. So if you get me on there,
Speaker 2: you might get me right away. You might get me
Speaker 2: next year, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Well, hey man, thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: I've been every wanting to get you back, uh and
Speaker 1: I thought this was a perfect opportunity to have you
Speaker 1: here because you're back on track with the show and
Speaker 1: I want people to check you out because like a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get what Jesse does is we
Speaker 1: had a great conversation, but on his own show, he
Speaker 1: is like, when you pull that that little notebook out,
Speaker 1: that's what he does. He's like, hey, here's what's going on,
Speaker 1: here's why you're being lied to. And I can prove it.
Speaker 1: And that's what's amazing. And he doesn't. He doesn't pull
Speaker 1: any punches. So give Jesse a listen. Support that. Jesse
Speaker 1: Razinski sure takes your contain on your feel attention, devils
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