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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned my lesson at this point, but I still

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't resist. I was eating peanuts during the during the

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<v Speaker 2>break there a little snack litill five o'clock snack. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if I you know, peanuts, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I can't just eat like a

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<v Speaker 2>few of them. I'm sure people are like that with

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<v Speaker 2>chips or cheese, it's or whatever. Is there a snack

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<v Speaker 2>for you, John that like once you start, you just

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<v Speaker 2>you know somebody's got to take it away from you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just gonna snack forever. Yeah, it's the dot pretzels.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that looks actually, and those dots pretzels are great,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way. Yeah, so peanuts are like that for me,

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<v Speaker 2>just this. You know, it's light, it's salty, but they

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<v Speaker 2>get stuck in my teeth and it makes it to

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<v Speaker 2>where anytime I do take anytime I get a little

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<v Speaker 2>peanut break, I find myself trying to clean my mouth

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<v Speaker 2>out before I have to, you know, start yapping again. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>So excuse me a little bit of a a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a delay there.

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<v Speaker 4>Get you nuts. We'll kind of put a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a film in your mouth a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit, absolutely, and as you.

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<v Speaker 5>Get to drink the water. I mean I was much

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<v Speaker 5>non some peanuts during one of the breaks as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll do that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, peanuts are are delicious and I'm glad we You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got some different snacks in there today.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw the chip selection, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Some different flavor compared to usual.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a fan of Dorito's, Like do you do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the regular nacho cheese flavor? Yeah? I like the

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<v Speaker 2>cool ranch. I like the nacho cheese. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're both good. I don't really seek out Doritos if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get chips. I'm usually more of like a

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<v Speaker 2>barbecue chip kind of guy. But the sweet and spicy

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<v Speaker 2>chili that purple bag in there, just see those I

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<v Speaker 2>did see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are those are? Those are my favorite griidos. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're not like hard to find. It's just rarely do

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<v Speaker 2>you see them. I mean they're never here. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>usually we have pretty you know, actually we just like

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<v Speaker 2>we have a pretty good selection. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sell a short here as far as what our our

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<v Speaker 2>snack selection is, but I know I've never seen those

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<v Speaker 2>in there before, and I'm getting a bag before I

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<v Speaker 2>leave here. Just just just everybody knows, not that anybody cares.

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<v Speaker 4>Before the basketball exhibition.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. I'm glad you mentioned that because

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<v Speaker 2>for those just joining us, I haven't talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but we are doing Louisville basketball postgame shows

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<v Speaker 2>once again this year, and I would say that over

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<v Speaker 2>the last I don't know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the people that I run into that mention like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I listen to your show, if there's one or two

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<v Speaker 2>things that they they bring up, like how they found me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like one of them is

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<v Speaker 2>like they just recognized me from the vibe check videos,

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<v Speaker 2>but the other is that like, oh yeah, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>you losing your mind on a basketball on a postgame show.

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<v Speaker 2>Like because of how bad things were for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years there, it did make it a point where

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<v Speaker 2>people wanted to tune in to the misery, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shenanigans because it became really a comedy hour at certain times,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it wasn't it wasn't just me, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way. I mean, it's a caller driven show, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the era that was the Kenny Payne era.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've never experienced the postgame shows, then you know

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't miss a whole lot. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a Louisville fan, it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a very miserable experience where we just collectively complained and

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<v Speaker 2>we're sad about the state of Louisville hoops. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you, I think I'll remember it

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and in a weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, it did help the growth of me in this station.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not to say that, you know, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing we were doing around here, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anytime I get a chance for somebody to sample what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing here myself and John on Sports Talk seven ninety,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. And because of the way things

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<v Speaker 2>went like there was, there was a lot of opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for people to tune in and hopefully they stuck around

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't just listen to the rest of the postgame shows,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully they also listen to this show, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now. But if there is one, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess silver lining, which I hate calling it that because

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<v Speaker 2>I was just as miserable as anybody to see how

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<v Speaker 2>bad Louisville was in those two years. But excuse me

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<v Speaker 2>getting choked up because I miss Kenny Pain so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, I got a peanuts stuck in my throat.

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<v Speaker 5>What's crazy is that I've never seen I've never seen

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<v Speaker 5>you happy about Louisville basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you've had very happy moments yees.

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<v Speaker 5>Since I've been around doing your postgame shows in your afternoon,

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<v Speaker 5>since we've worked together, Yeah, it's been been nothing but misery, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's not. Now it's good stuff. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I will always remember like what that was like, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it'll make us, at least it should make us.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for anybody but me, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to appreciate some good stuff, some positivity, some

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<v Speaker 2>winning in a way that I probably never had before

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<v Speaker 2>because Louis's going to be good under Pat Kelsey in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, I mean, there'll be a good team this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that in a few years we look like

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<v Speaker 2>a team that you know, is in a spot to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe annually be looked at as a team that should

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<v Speaker 2>always be in contention for the ACC. I mean, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>getting ahead of myself here the guy who coached the

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<v Speaker 2>game yet But like, I believe that Louisville basketball is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in a good spot with Pat Kelcey.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what you went through recently, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was nobody ever thought we'd live to see how bad

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<v Speaker 2>it was. So I don't know, I probably overdo it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because I know that it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. It wasn't But to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just the Kenney are It was the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the my care too. Like you throw in really

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<v Speaker 2>the last three and a half years, and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>lower than we would have ever expected it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look at it as a positive that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>usually I'm kind of bored with these kind of games, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I Mean, it's always fun to see your team in

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<v Speaker 2>action for the first time going up against somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not I mean, I'm not gonna be bored

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I mean, it's brand new, it's a new era.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get a chance to see what Pat Kelsey's

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<v Speaker 2>like on the sideline. We're gonna get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>see the type of basketball he wants to play. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a glimpse of it in the Bahamas, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was awesome, Right, That was a nice little appetizer,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, when it comes to just seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>this team was gonna, you know, who they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be as far as an identity. And yes, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just two exhibition games against inferior competition, but I happen

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<v Speaker 2>to think what you saw as far as the way

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<v Speaker 2>they were playing as far as style, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what they're gonna try to do against everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you win by fifty points tonight, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they will, but if they did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end, it's probably not gonna be super entertaining

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<v Speaker 2>for you. It'll be you know, you just dominating an

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<v Speaker 2>opponent like you're supposed to in these kind of games.

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<v Speaker 2>But one we didn't do that in recent years. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna see this team like avoid any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a random ass upset. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to jinx him, but when Pat Kelsey said last

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<v Speaker 2>week at media Day that he's going to prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>a young Harris, their opponent tonight, just like he'd be

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<v Speaker 2>preparing if it was Duke on the schedule. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just say that to sound like a coach who's being

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<v Speaker 2>serious and giving you coach speak like that's just how

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<v Speaker 2>I think, that's how this staff operates, right. They are

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<v Speaker 2>very very detailed, very organized, very much about routine, and

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<v Speaker 2>that excites me one because I think that's the right

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<v Speaker 2>way to go about it. But also I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be fun. Man, It's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. And the last few years were the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of fun, a lot of misery, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sadness. So good stuff again, Tonight tip offs

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<v Speaker 2>at seven. As soon as it ends, we'll go live

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<v Speaker 2>right here, and I hope you guys will join us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure what there is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>to react to. Hopefully it's not a close game, Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>it's a blowout. But what I'm you know, things I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for in this kind of game is just to

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<v Speaker 2>see what the rotation is, because again, I believe what

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<v Speaker 2>you see tonight would be the rotation if you were

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<v Speaker 2>playing Duke or Kentucky or North Carolina or Tennessee. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>your second opponent, because that's just how this staff's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go about it. So as far as who's the starting

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<v Speaker 2>lineup is, I mean, my guess would be that it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be Terrence Edwards, Chucky Hepburn, Cason Pryor, and then at

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<v Speaker 2>the other spots, like I don't know, like I could

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<v Speaker 2>see Cater Treire coming off the bench and really being

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<v Speaker 2>like you're ultimate six man, a guy who doesn't start

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<v Speaker 2>but still plays a lot of minutes and does a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of everything. You know. Javon Hadley though, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that I think will prop me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of options as far as what

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<v Speaker 2>you do with starting lineups. But I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of guys play and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>three point shots. They're gonna play really really fast. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I saw in the Bahamas and it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>thing like it's not it's it's not like a it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't some kind of a sign that I that I

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<v Speaker 2>viewed as Okay, this tells me not only is Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>going to be pretty good under Pat Kelsey, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be great, Like they're going to be elite.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't anything like that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It stood out that, you know, they're in the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 2>playing against you know, inferior competition, and they got three

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<v Speaker 2>guys diving on the floor for loose balls that are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of acting like high energy maniacs out there when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to their effort and their enthusiasm. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were a reflection of the guy on the sideline, the

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<v Speaker 2>maniac that is Pat Kelsey. And I shouldn't call him

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<v Speaker 2>a maniac, like it's a bad thing. Like he's high

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<v Speaker 2>energy man, he's always on. And I think this team

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be exactly like that, and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. And I go back to when they played

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<v Speaker 2>Leonora Ryan and I'm not joking. I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm telling you, these guys kind of looking asleep

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the first exhibition game, the first time

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<v Speaker 2>we're watching Kenny Payne coach this team against somebody else,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's an exhibition. I mean, like I remember thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do they look like they're half asleep, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough, they were a reflection of the guy coaching them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't mean that I was well, I try. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>could have seen them being as bad as they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody could have predicted that at all, especially when you

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<v Speaker 2>consider they actually had some pretty good players, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I don't know if you guys saw, but

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<v Speaker 2>apparently Brandon Huntley hadfield for NC State in one of

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<v Speaker 2>their charity scrimmages, like was insanely awesome. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what his numbers were, but like that doesn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>So little things tonight that I'm looking for I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to see what the rotation looks like

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<v Speaker 2>as far as who he's got in the starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are the first guys that are coming off the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>are they?

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<v Speaker 3>Defensively?

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<v Speaker 2>You know they're gonna take a little more risks than

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<v Speaker 2>what we're used to around here as far as defense,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that is gonna that'll help them get

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<v Speaker 2>games played at a style, at a pace they want

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<v Speaker 2>to play at. And again, a lot of three point shots,

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<v Speaker 2>which makes sense considering how this roster's put together. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys who who are are effective shooters that

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it is coffee and company. We are fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety eight the

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock hour, rolling along here. Usually we don't start

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<v Speaker 2>with basketball conversation on a Monday in the five o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is a game day for Louisville, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to avoid talking about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>against Miami once again, because it wasn't a loss to

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<v Speaker 2>a bad team, and I don't even think Louisville played

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<v Speaker 2>terrible football. I mean, they were right there in a shootout.

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<v Speaker 2>But it felt like the frustration with what went wrong

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<v Speaker 2>against Notre Dame and what went wrong against SMU, it

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<v Speaker 2>really it just turned to sadness after the Miami game

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, yeah, I mean, and I did this on

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<v Speaker 2>the postgame show and I stand by it. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very I mean, the special teams penalty

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<v Speaker 2>on the kickoff that had you snapping the ball from

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<v Speaker 2>what your own three yard line or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the fumble from Isaac Brown. That was this

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<v Speaker 2>team showing us their identity again as far as not

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<v Speaker 2>being able to avoid some crucial mistakes. That will absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>be a backbreaker for you. And they've done that all year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not asking them to be perfect like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like not not doing that, meaning not not committing that

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<v Speaker 2>silly penalty and then not coughing it up. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love Isaac Brown, I don't. I mean, it happens, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean terrible timing, but you know what happens. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been great. But like, avoiding those two things would not mean, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're perfect. It would just be, hey, let's not make

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<v Speaker 2>such a critical mistake that can really cost you. And

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<v Speaker 2>they've done that all year at times. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean they do it every play, but in every game

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<v Speaker 2>you'll go back to a backbreaking mistake they made that

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<v Speaker 2>that really hurt them. And it happened against Miami, and

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<v Speaker 2>you were able to, you know, claw back in it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you were able to tie that thing up.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it looked like we had a ballgame

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, right, and sure enough, you just couldn't hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a game that you never want to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's say Louisville took their first loss of

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<v Speaker 2>the season on Saturday. We'd all still be really, really sad,

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<v Speaker 2>because one it would be the first loss, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would have probably already been thinking about a potential perfect season.

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<v Speaker 2>So like we still would have been doing what you

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<v Speaker 2>do after a loss, right, nobody wants it.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to react to it. You're upset, you're disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think this one would have would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot easier to take if you would have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to clean up some things early on in

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And now you're sitting seven games in with

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<v Speaker 2>a four and three record and you are what two

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<v Speaker 2>and two in the ACC, I mean, and that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean the season's over. There's still a lot of football

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<v Speaker 2>to be played. And if they somehow went out, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how anybody would say it wasn't a good year,

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<v Speaker 2>because if so, then I think you're probably somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>just thinks Louisvill's got to be in the College Football

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<v Speaker 2>Playoff or at least be in the race for it

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<v Speaker 2>every year, or it's or it's going to be viewed, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just, you know, I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's I don't still think that's realistic, But I

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<v Speaker 2>just it's hard for me to say that I expect

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<v Speaker 2>them to finish the year undefeated. I mean, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Clemson and that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>tough place to mean, that's always they've never won their

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<v Speaker 2>right and yeah, it's possible. Clemson, in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 2>not as good as their ranking shows. They have clearly

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<v Speaker 2>bounced back in a major way and they're playing really

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<v Speaker 2>good football. All you can do is play is on

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<v Speaker 2>your schedule. But they've only got one win against a

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<v Speaker 2>team with a winning record. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 2>that they stink, but like, as much as it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 2>for them to win there, at least in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not it's not like you're asking them to

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<v Speaker 2>do something that is just downright impossible. It's just when

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<v Speaker 2>you're seven games in and you've established an identity, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just hard for me to think that they won't have

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<v Speaker 2>a backbreaking mistake in a close game that you just

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<v Speaker 2>have to avoid if you want to win close games

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<v Speaker 2>against good teams. And they've lost three games that were

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<v Speaker 2>close against good teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A variety of factors in that, but one of the

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<v Speaker 2>factors is that they just they don't play they don't

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<v Speaker 2>play clean football. And then Saturday against Miami with the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know, Miami's the number one offense in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, and that can't be overstated because I think

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<v Speaker 2>many teams would have a really tough time containing this

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<v Speaker 2>cam Ward led offense. I mean, they're special, make no

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<v Speaker 2>mistake about it. But I also think there's other teams

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<v Speaker 2>that would get that would have a tough time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>beating Miami because they're that good. But I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams that would not have one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty five rushing yards after contact, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Miami did. They ran for many more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty five yards in the game total, but one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty five yards on the ground after their

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<v Speaker 2>running backs and cam Ward made contact with the Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>defender one hundred and seventy five yards after the catch.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this team was not tackling well. We played

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bromps press conference earlier today and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can you can hear it in his voice, like having

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<v Speaker 2>to in in you know, mid to late October, talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Working on tackling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not something you ever It's not a position

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<v Speaker 2>you ever want to be in as a coach, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's just as surprised as we are that

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<v Speaker 2>we're here now. We also talked about Ron English because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a surprise. For weeks now, there have been

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<v Speaker 2>people hinting, does Jeff make a change here? Does Ron English?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he survive another week? That kind of stuff, And

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<v Speaker 2>some of that's just in the moment. That's people calling

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<v Speaker 2>after the game whenever you know, the emotions are high

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you just lost. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>that like Ron English is not I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Ron English is deserving of a lot of blame because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at the end of the day, he's in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of the defense. And even if in fact they

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<v Speaker 2>go into the film room and these guys that missed

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<v Speaker 2>these tackles or tried to arm tackle and just got

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<v Speaker 2>trucked over about these Miami running backs, they're always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be held accountable. But you know who is responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for making those guys not do that? Coaches and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the divinsive Courton. You know who's responsible for the defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach. So like there's blame that could be

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<v Speaker 2>thrown everywhere. And if you want a point, a finger

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<v Speaker 2>this way or point it that way, do whatever you want. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to put it all on Bram, knock

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<v Speaker 2>yourself out. I just I don't think getting rid of

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<v Speaker 2>Ron English now would accomplish anything at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even if you wanted to make a change

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<v Speaker 2>mid season, you probably just demote him internally and have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else call the defense. Now, maybe they've already done

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<v Speaker 2>that and we didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get the sense that they have, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to make it clear on Saturday because there

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<v Speaker 2>were a couple of callers in the postgame show that

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<v Speaker 2>really I think wanted to take that. I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>had two people specifically that I feel like, we're defending

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<v Speaker 2>Ron English. And I don't know if you remember much

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<v Speaker 2>of it, John, but you're working the phones and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you can't hear everybody, but I think one

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<v Speaker 2>person wanted to just act like, you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>his fault, which I thought was kind of odd either way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the defense was not effective and he's the

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<v Speaker 2>guy in charge of, you know, the defense, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was some person that just wanted to say, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we putting it on him.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts with Jeff.

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<v Speaker 4>You can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to defend Jeff and act like he's

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<v Speaker 2>not worthy of any criticism at all. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty routine when you're a college football

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<v Speaker 2>fan and you know you've got a guy who you

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<v Speaker 2>believe is specifically responsible for the offense and a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's specifically responsible for the defense. Whenever one of those

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<v Speaker 2>two sides is underperforming, you're gonna throw criticism at those coordinators. Now, sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>like in Jeff's case, if you're critical of the offense,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're being critical of the head coach because

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<v Speaker 2>he's in charge of the offense. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody's picking on ron English. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>quite clear he's not been good enough, and that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that it's all his fault and not player. The

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<v Speaker 2>player's fault. They got to take some accountability. That's never

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<v Speaker 2>not the case, but his The reason I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>his background a few weeks ago was that he really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just it timed out well for him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd been kind of a career journeyman as a defensive coach,

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<v Speaker 2>where he used to be a CODEC at Michigan, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you remember, then he got the job here working

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<v Speaker 2>for Crackthorpe. He was here, I believe, one year, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after that he ended up getting a head coaching

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<v Speaker 2>job at Eastern Michigan. He was really really bad there

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<v Speaker 2>in five seasons, and I mean really really bad. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he was the DC at San Jose State for

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<v Speaker 2>a year, coached the safeties at Mississippi State, coached the

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<v Speaker 2>safeties at Florida, and then he got a CODC job

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<v Speaker 2>with Jeff at Purdue. And in his second and final

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<v Speaker 2>season for Jeff at Purdue, their defense was pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think at that point Jeff just decided, Okay,

418
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<v Speaker 2>well I'm going to bring what I had in place

419
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<v Speaker 2>as far as my staff with me and try to

420
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<v Speaker 2>keep this thing rolling. And last year it worked. I mean,

421
00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the defense last year was good, and this year, you

422
00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.079
<v Speaker 2>know they're not. They make timely plays here and there.

423
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<v Speaker 2>I still think you see some of the talent that

424
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<v Speaker 2>they have at times with some big play, but I

425
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<v Speaker 2>just don't think that they're like, they don't have much

426
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<v Speaker 2>of an identity and and I don't really think they

427
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<v Speaker 2>know who they are and that the one person responsible

428
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<v Speaker 2>for that is the guy who's orchestrating the defense, and

429
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<v Speaker 2>that's around English. So again, I know I sound like

430
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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking that of both sides of my mouth here.

431
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not defending him as if he's doing a great job,

432
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<v Speaker 2>but I still just don't know what you would ultimately

433
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<v Speaker 2>accomplish if you made a move like right now. I

434
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<v Speaker 2>just don't think that would really benefit anybody. I mean,

435
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<v Speaker 2>maybe it would, right maybe it would.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Again, I but I just you know, if it did been,

438
00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can have somebody else kind of step

439
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<v Speaker 2>in and work the defense along. I mean, and they're

440
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<v Speaker 2>probably already doing that anyway. All right, let's go to

441
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<v Speaker 2>the phone lines five W two if I've seven one

442
00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:48.440
<v Speaker 2>seventy nine hundred is the number if you want to

443
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<v Speaker 2>give us a call.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Will Will. You're on sports Talk seven ninety.

445
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<v Speaker 3>What's happening, hey man?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I was thinking this weekend. I'm a little fan,

447
00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:04.519
<v Speaker 6>but I think the NIL had to come. It's great

448
00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.240
<v Speaker 6>because school's making all the money. The players are getting

449
00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:13.279
<v Speaker 6>nothing except scholarship. Okay, so I'm not anti, but it's

450
00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 6>the worst thing for coaches because and you know what,

451
00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:20.359
<v Speaker 6>I think we're gonna have to reevaluate the coaches overall

452
00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:25.680
<v Speaker 6>because it's too many good teams, historically good teams that

453
00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:28.839
<v Speaker 6>are having issues, and then you have some terrible teams

454
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<v Speaker 6>that are doing great. Man, I think it's whack them mo.

455
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<v Speaker 6>I think it's the look of the draw, you know,

456
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<v Speaker 6>because you can't realistically now, okay, like IU, they put

457
00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.359
<v Speaker 6>together a team one year. Okay, but think about it, it

458
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.200
<v Speaker 6>was the mercy of those players coming in. It's not

459
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<v Speaker 6>like I recruited that kid at seventeen and he matured

460
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<v Speaker 6>a twenty.

461
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

462
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<v Speaker 6>So I guess I'm arguing both sides. But if you

463
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<v Speaker 6>think about it, dude, I think we're just in for

464
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<v Speaker 6>it's because it's gonna be whacky. There's not gonna be

465
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<v Speaker 6>any rhyme or reason, and then you know who gets

466
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<v Speaker 6>blown out. Texas gets beat. You know they were on

467
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<v Speaker 6>the roll. So I just think, man, we're in a

468
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<v Speaker 6>top Sea Turby. You can't really judge the way we

469
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<v Speaker 6>used to judge because you probably got some great coach

470
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<v Speaker 6>Look at Bennett. You know in basketball you got some

471
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<v Speaker 6>great coaches who are like, screw it. I meant I

472
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 6>don't care, you know, So you get kind of what

473
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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think and will I appreciate the call. Look,

475
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<v Speaker 2>I think this weekend just with some of the results,

476
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and I guess you could probably look at every weekend

477
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in college football and find some some results that tell you, okay,

478
00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>with the portal and with nil. You know, the gap

479
00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>between some programs just isn't what it once was. But

480
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<v Speaker 2>as far as just like luck of the draw topsy Turby,

481
00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really look at Louisville this way, but maybe

482
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<v Speaker 2>I should. But I don't think they got sold something

483
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not legitimate, right. I don't think they went out

484
00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.319
<v Speaker 2>there and got players from the portal and are now

485
00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:02.440
<v Speaker 2>learning that they're not as good as we thought they were,

486
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.559
<v Speaker 2>because that is gonna happen like that, like if you

487
00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>are going to be dependent upon the portal heavily, like

488
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Jeff and this staff are going to. I mean, let's

489
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<v Speaker 2>be real, there a lot of schools are. But Jeff

490
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Speaker 2>in his first couple of years has brought in more

491
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<v Speaker 2>players in the portal than nearly every program. Now last

492
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 2>year he took over, so it made sense to you know,

493
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 2>when you go through a coaching change, it makes a

494
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>little more sense for you to have a roster that

495
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 2>is honestly mostly built with new guys.

496
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<v Speaker 3>From the portal.

497
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<v Speaker 2>I think Jeff loves the portal, I mean, and clearly

498
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<v Speaker 2>the results are there as far as how many guys

499
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>he brings in. But I don't think it's because he's

500
00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:36.480
<v Speaker 2>relatively new here or because last year was his first year.

501
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I think every year he is going to depend on

502
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.519
<v Speaker 2>the portal, And with that, you just have to know

503
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you know, you're gonna learn the hard way that

504
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.839
<v Speaker 2>that's a risk, and sometimes it's gonna work out great,

505
00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's going to be you know, it's gonna

506
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<v Speaker 2>be an issue. So yeah, I mean I think what

507
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<v Speaker 2>you said will as far as you know, not really

508
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.839
<v Speaker 2>knowing what you're getting and it being kind of, you know,

509
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:06.880
<v Speaker 2>luck of the draw, I'm with you. But I just

510
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<v Speaker 2>don't think here locally, there's been a really good example

511
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>of that. Like I think both teams locally that are

512
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 2>struggling as far as Louisville and Kentucky, I mean, I

513
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 2>don't really think it's personnel related. I mean, Kentucky's offensive

514
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.839
<v Speaker 2>line has struggled. Louisville, They've got some issues defensively, but like,

515
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean, maybe we could get really

516
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<v Speaker 2>deep with it, and maybe it's the fact that like

517
00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>these coaches now are having a tough time really coaching

518
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>guys knowing that they're like maybe it's not that they're

519
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.279
<v Speaker 2>resistant to guys making money, but maybe the same coaching

520
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>practices just aren't as effective because these guys are not

521
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.920
<v Speaker 2>just college players anymore. They're employees. I mean, that's what

522
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<v Speaker 2>they are. All right, quick break, we'll come back on

523
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<v Speaker 2>the other side. Keep it rolling along. It's Coffee and Company.

524
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<v Speaker 2>We are fuel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk

525
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company fueled bout Thornton's

526
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We got about twenty

527
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>five minutes left before we wrap it up, and we

528
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 2>are about an hour and a half away from from

529
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<v Speaker 2>tip off. Louisville and and Young Harris, that's the name

530
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<v Speaker 2>of the team.

531
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<v Speaker 3>There were Division two.

532
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Team, by the way, and they were I think, you know,

533
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 2>middle of the pack in their conference last year. I

534
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's like the Carolinas Conference, despite them being in Georgia.

535
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, sometimes you'll see on Division two rosters,

536
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe some guys that are that initially started at like

537
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>D one schools and and kind of transferred down. But

538
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look as if that's the case here with

539
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>with this this program. And again last year, let's see,

540
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I think they were like a few games above five hundred.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm not giving them, you know, maybe I'm not

542
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 2>giving them a whole lot of Maybe I'm not.

543
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Let me just get let me make Yeah, there's seventeen

545
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and twelve, so eleven and seven in conference play. Looks

546
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>like the majority of the schools they play are in

547
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the Carolinas or in Georgia. But I would imagine they'll

548
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>get they'll get beat pretty bad tonight.

549
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:54.279
<v Speaker 3>But we shall see.

550
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<v Speaker 2>You know, somebody on the text line asked me earlier,

551
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<v Speaker 2>have you given any.

552
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<v Speaker 3>Thought at all of like what you react would be

553
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 3>if they lose? And No, I haven't, And I mean

554
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I mean I don't.

555
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the ability to like even process sort

556
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<v Speaker 2>of what what we would do if that happened.

557
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<v Speaker 5>I think I would be scared to come back tonight

558
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<v Speaker 5>if it ended up looking like it was heading in

559
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<v Speaker 5>that direction.

560
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and we probably.

561
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't even humor it. To be honest, you're right.

562
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Because it just I mean, I mean, it's getting.

563
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<v Speaker 5>Dark just thinking it's it's like we're leaving that door open,

564
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<v Speaker 5>that left It's.

565
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<v Speaker 2>Just it's like, I mean, so clearly, I'm I'm proving

566
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to you that I that I have not and I

567
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 2>can't even process what any reaction from anybody, including myself,

568
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>would be if somehow they didn't win this exhibition game tonight.

569
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see though, I mean, I mean, I wouldn't

570
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>be shocked if they win it by forty points, because

571
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to try to, like I don't

572
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 2>think you know, they're going to be you know, this

573
00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't going to be an opportunity for Pat Kelsey to

574
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, put up, you know, just play. I mean,

575
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 2>because again, his roster, his personnel is I mean, he

576
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>was able to go out and literally build a team

577
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>that for the most part, everybody he brought in rather

578
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>it be somebody he he brought in from Charleston with him.

579
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 2>There's obviously a few guys only two are playing this year,

580
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>but obviously James Scott and Rain Smith came with him

581
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and played for him at Charleston. All the other guys

582
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that you brought in via the transfer portal. Maybe outside

583
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>of frank anslom Ivy, all those guys are guys that

584
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you brought in because you feel like they can play

585
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 2>for you and maybe play a lot like.

586
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>That.

587
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Is probably the most intriguing thing to me about this

588
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville basketball team is that when you when you go

589
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>out and you can literally start from scratch and build

590
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>your roster. You know, of the thirteen guys, they have

591
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>ten of them, especially the guys that are playing this year,

592
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>like they didn't. They weren't sold on a, hey you

593
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>can come here and be our ninth man. They were

594
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>sold on, hey, like we got all kinds of spots open.

595
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't understand. I'm going to be bringing in like

596
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>a whole new team and everybody's gonna have to compete

597
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and basically get what they earn. Like your playing time

598
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to be based upon you know how much

599
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 2>you work and you know where you stand. It's all

600
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>going to be earned, right, you earn everything within the program.

601
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things that they emphasize. So maybe

602
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 2>we find out midway through the year that, Okay, there

603
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 2>is a bigger gap between this guy and that guy

604
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 2>than we anticipated, right, Like, maybe now I think you

605
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 2>can play Case and Pryor and Noah Waterman together.

606
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

607
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we learned that Waterman's really just a specialist off

608
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>the bench to stretch the floor and knockdown threes. And

609
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he is. Maybe he plays thirty five minutes. Again,

610
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, and that is what I'm I think

611
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>one of them. That's one of the things I'm most

612
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 2>anxious to find out about is that when you do

613
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 2>start to get into real games, which by the way,

614
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 2>are not that far away. I mean, we're not that

615
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>far away from playing the number twelve team in the country.

616
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 2>That's the second game of the season when they played Tennessee.

617
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 2>So maybe even at that point, we aren't going to

618
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>know exactly where everybody stands as far as like the rotation,

619
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>because Patt will be trying to figure it out. But

620
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't shock me if you get, you know, midway

621
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>through the year and it really varies, because you have

622
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys that are not kind of I

623
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 2>don't want to act like they're all the same, Like

624
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 2>you got a bunch of robots that are the exact

625
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>same players. But I think if there's a night where

626
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>let's say Chucky Hepburn just doesn't have it going and

627
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>he's in foul trouble, maybe Koran Johnson runs the show

628
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<v Speaker 2>for you, and like whatever game that is, it just

629
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<v Speaker 2>happens to be a game where he goes off for

630
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty something points because he's feeling it. Like, you know,

631
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<v Speaker 2>I the biggest concern I have, and I guess I

632
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>can't even call it a concern until I, you know,

633
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 2>see that it could be a potential issue. But you

634
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of guys that have never really been

635
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the man for their team, if that makes sense, and

636
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't have to be. Maybe it's a collective

637
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 2>effort and this team ends up being really good and

638
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they've got a good record. They look like a tournament

639
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>team by the month of February. And it's not because

640
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>of one guy. It's because of a collection of guys

641
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>that are all pretty solid. And when you got sometimes

642
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 2>five guys on the floor that can all knock down threes,

643
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>like it just you're not worried about Louisville because of

644
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>this guy or that guy. You're worried about their collection

645
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 2>of talent, their collection of players that just are hard

646
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to match up with because no matter who you put

647
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 2>out there, they got dudes who can again stretch the

648
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>floor and and make you have to, you know, pull

649
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>your big guys out and really have to defend picking rolls.

650
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>So again, I'm rambling here because it's the ultimate unknown, right,

651
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're gonna learn a little bit tonight. We'll

652
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>learn a little bit in the next next deshibition game

653
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.519
<v Speaker 2>next week when they play Spalding. Then it's more head

654
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>state than it's Tennessee, and you know it's gonna be

655
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>a learning experience. But I don't say that to act like, hey,

656
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>they could end up being terrible.

657
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 3>None of us know. I mean, I guess that is

658
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 3>technically true. We don't know.

659
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>But I think Louisville fans have are they're justified in

660
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 2>looking at you're one of Pat Kelsey, knowing that the

661
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>ACC media people think that they're the ninth best team

662
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 2>in the league, that some people think they're maybe even

663
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 2>worse than that, Like we all, I mean, I think

664
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<v Speaker 2>even fans who think this team could be really good

665
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>understand why they're maybe not looked at as like a

666
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>preseason top twenty five team by just about everybody, But

667
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>if it all does end up working out and you

668
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 2>feel like, hey, we've got a team that looks like

669
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>a safe bet to make the tournament and maybe we

670
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>get a decent seed if we end up getting there,

671
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>not saying for sure that we will, but if we do,

672
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I think fans will feel maybe not confirmed, but like

673
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 2>that's not gonna be such a big surprise, right because

674
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I think when you look at the type of players

675
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you brought in where they come from, if this team

676
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>ends up being super successful this year, and I guess

677
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>everybody's definition of what super successful would be is probably different.

678
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>But like all I've said since the roster was complete

679
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>is that this is a team that, on paper, as

680
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>far as the pieces they've added and the coaching staff

681
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and Pat Kelsey himself as the coach, this should be

682
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 2>a tournament team. And I'm gonna run with that until

683
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I see something that tells me, you know.

684
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 3>That they don't look like a tournament team.

685
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna be tough to know, you know, tonight,

686
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 2>because again the competition, But we'll find out pretty early

687
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>on in the year because of how challenging that non

688
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>conference schedule is.

689
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, So good question, here.

690
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>On the on the text line, and I don't really

691
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>have the answer for you, but it's a good question,

692
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>says Nick. How much does Louisville need to be up

693
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>for me to turn off ACC Network Extra and watch

694
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Lamar and the Ravens. I mean, the game's gonna start

695
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>at seven at least.

696
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it is.

697
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>We double check here, and I know the NFL game

698
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 2>won't start until what eight fifteen, so you know you'll

699
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 2>probably be able to turn on the Ravens game at

700
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>halftime of the Louisville game, And maybe it's a big

701
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>enough blowout to where if you are a Ravens fan,

702
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>or you just are a big Ravens fan because of

703
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Lamar specifically, maybe you can. I don't know, that's a

704
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>good question if you're a Ravens fan and like they

705
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>become your team because of Lamar, or maybe you were

706
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 2>a Ravens fan before Lamar. They've got the Buccaneers tonight

707
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>in a pretty good Monday night football matchup. I would

708
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, would you want to continue to watch Louisville basketball.

709
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's say they're up forty at halftime or something, which

710
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 2>is an exaggeration, but let's just say, they're up twenty

711
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>at halftime twenty five, and it's and it's a blowout

712
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning, and it looks like it's going to

713
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>stay that way, knowing that it's not a knowing that

714
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not a real game, knowing that your team's not

715
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>going to really be challenged. Would you still watch this

716
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>based off the fact that it's new and it's exciting

717
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's your first chance to watch this team, or

718
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>would you be more inclined to go right to a

719
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 2>good Monday and a football game between your Ravens and

720
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the Buccaneers. I mean, only you can answer that question.

721
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 2>In fact, with technology, you can do both. To be

722
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>honest with you, like, to me, this is an if

723
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 2>you're really big on one of the NFL games, not

724
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>because we have two, don't we Yeah, we've got Chargers

725
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 2>and Cardinals that doesn't start till nine o'clock and then

726
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Ravens Buccaneers at eight fifteen. But you, like, this is

727
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 2>an iPad in your hand, or maybe you know, you

728
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>near your recliner and then the TV on a game

729
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>like that's what I would do. But I don't really

730
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.079
<v Speaker 2>care a whole lot about these And I mean I

731
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 2>hope Lamar and the Ravens wins night. I'm gonna be

732
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>keeping with it to an extent because I'm probably gonna

733
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>bet on it. But I mean, I'm going to be

734
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>locked in and watching this exhibition game closer than honestly,

735
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>probably closer than I've watched a Louisville basketball game in years. Right, Like,

736
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the last time I was excited for

737
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a game, like not to pile on the previous regime

738
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>and not to go back down that depressing road. But

739
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the last time I was excited to

740
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>watch Louisville play. I mean, I guess it was when

741
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>they were in the Bahamas just a couple of months ago.

742
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>But like last year, you had a better team. And

743
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody truly believed that with that

744
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>coaching staff that Louisville was gonna be much better than

745
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>they were the year before.

746
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 3>But you could look at the freshmen that they brought in.

747
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>You could look at some of the guys in the

748
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 2>portal and know that, hey, they did go out and

749
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>add better players, so like, maybe they'll be better. But

750
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>then when you lose your second exhibition game to Kentucky, Wesleyan.

751
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>You you narrowly avoid the upset to UNBC, and then

752
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 2>you lose to is it Chattanooga or there was Was

753
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>it Chattanooga who came in and got them last year?

754
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, they all run together. There was a

755
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>handful of teams that beat them that you know, you

756
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like Louill would never lose to. So you know,

757
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean when that happens, like you're just like all

758
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>of your fear and you're worry about how disastrous, Like

759
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>your hope of year one just being the ultimate fluke

760
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 2>is gone once you realized they brought out a team

761
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>full of only I mean they like Kenny only played

762
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>four and five star players against Kentucky Wesleyan and lost

763
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>last year, Like I mean, so that made it to

764
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 2>where the rest of the way, like let's just end

765
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 2>this thing. This is disastrous. But now we're over that

766
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and you got a new era and it's exciting. I'm

767
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>excited and maybe this this may tonight may be the

768
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 2>most excited I'll ever be about an exhibition game, given

769
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the circumstances. So the Cards and the young Harris. What

770
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 2>a weird name for a team. What's their mascot look?

771
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 4>It up the Kamala's according to some people, probably right.

772
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I get it now, and I thought you were like you.

773
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was like the real thing, and then

774
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I realized what you were doing here. I don't know

775
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>what they are, although the Mountain Lions, So the Young

776
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Harris Mountain Lions, it's a lame name. They're gonna get

777
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>blown out tonight, I hope, So God bless quick break.

778
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side about how to

779
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>panic attack. So thank you to It looks like Timothy

780
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter sent me a screenshot from The Courier Journal

781
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that says the Young Harris is a D two program

782
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 2>coached by Jeremy Currier, who has ties to pack to

783
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 2>member who has ties a little typo here for the CJ.

784
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 2>In fact, kind of kind of scary to think about

785
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Currier, who has ties members of Kelsey's staff. So

786
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of a connection here with the staff.

787
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is. But as somebody h

788
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>pointed out on this on this tweet sent to me

789
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>by Timothy, that just explains the connections.

790
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll say.

791
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Usually when you play an exhibition opponent, there's some kind

792
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of a connection as to why you're playing them, whether

793
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 2>they're local or there's a coach that familiarity with the

794
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>program or something like that, but has ties members. Let's

795
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 2>not tie up an any members of anything tonight.

796
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Let's just play basketball, guys. Let's do that.

797
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully Young Harris leaves here with a big time

798
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 2>blowout lost tonight. But regardless, we'll talk about whatever happens

799
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>on the postgame show. It'll start as soon as it

800
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>ends tonight right here on a Sports Talk seven ninety

801
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<v Speaker 2>real quick, one more shout out today for our friends

802
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<v Speaker 2>over at Jefferson Animal Hospital. Keep them in mind when

803
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to your pets. An emergency is never planned, right,

804
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how you could plan for

805
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>an emergency, but if an emergency does happen, you're playing

806
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<v Speaker 2>should be to reach out to the Jeffersonial Hospital. They

807
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<v Speaker 2>have been opened since nineteen eighty.

808
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<v Speaker 3>They've been serving the.

809
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville community for forty four years, twenty four hours a day,

810
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<v Speaker 2>including holidays, even on Christmas.

811
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<v Speaker 3>They're going to have a doctor on site.

812
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<v Speaker 2>They've got a dedicated staff and have you and your

813
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<v Speaker 2>pets covered in case of an emergency. But it doesn't

814
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<v Speaker 2>have to be an emergency. You can schedule at an

815
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<v Speaker 2>appointment for any time.

816
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<v Speaker 3>Walk right in.

817
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<v Speaker 2>They'd be happy to see you, or give them a

818
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819
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<v Speaker 2>dot com. We certainly appreciate our friends over there at

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<v Speaker 2>the Jefferson Animal Hospital, all right, and we appreciate you

821
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<v Speaker 2>guys for hanging out with us today. I'm sure by

822
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow my morale will be. In fact, by tonight, my

823
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>morale's going to.

824
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Be much better.

825
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like I was very windy today,

826
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>but I you know, I'm just being real with you.

827
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm being honest.

828
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm bummed about where this Louisville football team is right now,

829
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and I badly wish they weren't a team with already

830
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>three losses, but you know, maybe they've finished strong fingers crossed.

831
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<v Speaker 2>But I know Louisville basketball is going to be to

832
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>pick me up I need tonight. So it should be

833
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. And again we'll react to it

834
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<v Speaker 2>right here a little later tonight on Sports Talk seven

835
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<v Speaker 2>ninety have a good

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<v Speaker 3>One, do they By