WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What what's going to happen? 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:12.919 I'll take. 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:26.839 What help. Welcome to the Occult Rejects. 5 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:29.239 This episode, I got a bunch of rejects with us 6 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.839 and a new guest, somebody who's not been on before. 7 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.320 But I was very very excited to get her on. 8 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.920 But before we introduce Star, you are going to introduce 9 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:38.759 Matt Mora. What is going on? 10 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:39.000 Man? 11 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:39.479 How are you? 12 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.520 Hey? Yo? It's been great, nice to again back to back, 13 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.880 starting with the podcast the year. So very happy to 14 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.759 be here. As always, you can find me on at 15 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:56.159 Met Mora nineteen. That's going to be on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, 16 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:00.280 maybe some other base and we also have have the 17 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.679 twitters faces every Friday. That's on the Gray Lodge. So 18 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.959 that's the website, the True Grade Lodge with a V 19 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:10.560 so the True Gray Lodge dot com. Also my website 20 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.680 Kabala dot com k A A B A l a 21 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.159 h dot com. Local stuff going on there. And if 22 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:20.319 you're interested in being part as a beta tester of 23 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.719 a parent thing that I'm working on, just DM me 24 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.319 in any of these and I'll loop you in. So yeah, 25 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.359 very glad to be here. Thanks for having me, of. 26 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:30.879 Course, thank you for coming on. I appreciate it. 27 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.400 And we got rent in with Maggis in the media. 28 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.239 What is going on, sir? How are you? Thank you 29 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:35.879 for making it. 30 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.760 Hey, Nick, thank you for having me on this beautiful stream. 31 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.359 I'm really excited to get to know star here and 32 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.120 everything that she does heldo to Matt and to our 33 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.480 marks as well. I have Magas at the media on 34 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:52.760 YouTube x and TikTok just all the things. 35 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:53.680 YouTube are the big one. 36 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:58.879 That's where I break down the esoteric philosophical, mythological all 37 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:03.560 that is anime, books, media, literature, film philosophy. So check 38 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:05.519 me out at Magas and the media on YouTube and 39 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:06.239 all those things. 40 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.599 And I'm excited for this day. Let's do it. 41 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:09.800 Oh yeah, thank you very much. 42 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.639 And for the new listeners that may not have heard 43 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.759 him before, I highleastly just to go check out his channel. 44 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.080 I think if you, if you enjoy the work that 45 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.039 we've done on this show, especially some of the older stuff, 46 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.560 you'll love his stuff. So go please check it out. 47 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.199 And last but not least, before we get to the guests, 48 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.120 we got Robbie Marx. What is going on? So it's 49 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:25.000 great to have you back on. 50 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.520 Hey, hope everybody's doing well. Yeah, I'm I'm glad to 51 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:31.240 come on. It's good to come on and hang out. 52 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:36.319 See some old faces, see some new faces. But yeah, 53 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:38.919 I'm our Marx artist illustrator. If you want to check 54 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.919 out my stuff, you can go to my link tree 55 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.599 which is link tree r m ar X and then 56 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:47.439 I'll pull up all my miscellaneous stuff, my art, my podcast, everything. 57 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:49.120 So yeah, thanks for having me on. 58 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:50.479 Nick, oh, of course, thank you. 59 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.400 And finally the guest we got star from, well, we're 60 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:57.080 covering Creepy Shit and she had her show is Creepy 61 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.919 Shit Podcast, so he got a star from Creepy Ship. 62 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.840 Please let everybody know what your deal is, what your 63 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.840 show's about, and where they can find all your amazing work. 64 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:08.120 Absolutely, and thank you, thank you so much for having me. 65 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.199 I'm so happy to be here. This is really cool. 66 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:15.800 Creepy Shit Podcast is all about true documented events that 67 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.240 have happened in history, whether they are hauntings, paranormal activities, 68 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:24.719 true crimes such as vanishings, all sorts of really spooky, creepy, 69 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:26.680 disturbingly real. 70 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:32.520 Shit, awesome, awesome, and uh you don't you don't cover 71 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.240 anything like a cult, but are you like kind of 72 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:35.960 into that stuff yourself for a little bit interested? 73 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.800 Oh my gosh, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 74 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:42.520 Yeah, No, I had noticed it's some posts that you 75 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:44.439 do or real stories you do like them. That's why 76 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:46.000 I was like, oh, you went to this stuff because 77 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.599 I've noticed awesome, awesome, So yeah, she isn't too the 78 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.000 occult as well, so go check us stuff out. But yeah, 79 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.199 what now, what got you even, I guess even into 80 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:57.479 doing this type of stuff for podcasts? 81 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:57.800 Like? 82 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.639 What made you pick? You know? How did this happen 83 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:00.000 for you? 84 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.080 So the funny thing is is I was doing a 85 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:09.000 different podcast that I had created, a totally opposite of 86 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.319 what I'm doing right now, and it just didn't feel, 87 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.120 for lack of a better term, I didn't feel aligned anymore. 88 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.279 And I'm like, this just isn't what I really want 89 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.519 to talk about. And so through much I guess you 90 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:30.839 could say personal development and self searching, I discovered I'm like, 91 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.720 you know what I really need to tap into the 92 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.959 things that I love the most, and that is the paranormal, 93 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:40.199 the occult, pop culture, true crime. And I'm like, I'm 94 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.000 just going to go for it. And the funny thing 95 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.319 is is I never even really talked about it much 96 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.079 outside of like my best friend and my husband, you 97 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:53.519 know what I mean. So when I approached it and said, 98 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:55.680 you know, I'm thinking about doing this, what do you know, 99 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:56.519 just some feedback? 100 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:57.079 What do you think? 101 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.519 And they're like, We've wanted to tell you this for 102 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:01.959 so long, but you need to do that, yes, And 103 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.040 I was like okay, And so I got to work 104 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.360 on researching a couple of my favorite locations to start, 105 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.120 and all of a sudden, it just it just took off. 106 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:16.079 And it's funny when you do what you enjoy doing, 107 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:18.279 everything else will fall into place. 108 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:23.120 Like and what were you doing prior to that? If 109 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:23.920 you don't mind me asking? 110 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.240 Sure, Yeah, I was doing a podcast. It was called 111 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:33.879 Glowing Well, and it was all about like spiritual development 112 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:38.079 and tapping into like the other side. And as much 113 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.759 as I love that, that wasn't really what I wanted to. 114 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:42.480 Be talking about. 115 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:44.639 So it had a lot to do with like meditation, 116 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:50.439 yoga and connecting with oneself, which I think is definitely 117 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:51.480 all good things. 118 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:54.040 But again, it just it just didn't. 119 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.040 Hit Yeah, your passion was talking about something else. 120 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.800 Yeah, I've understood that kind of even with my own 121 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.199 sit the way it's changed a little bit talking about stuff, 122 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:06.040 I'm a little bit more passionate about you, Nice, So like, 123 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.720 did you have just asking wondering did you happen to 124 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.399 have your own like paranormal weird experiences growing up that 125 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:12.800 kind of influenced you to believe? 126 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.959 Oh my goodness, Yes, throughout throughout my life, I have 127 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.680 definitely have had some experiences for sure, Yes. 128 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:23.959 Nice, would you mind sharing you Oh? 129 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:24.519 Of course. 130 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.160 I one of the ones that stands out the most. 131 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.720 And I don't know if you would necessarily say that 132 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.720 it was a paranormal experience, but I do not believe 133 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.399 in coincidences, and this was just way too weird. So 134 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.399 I my day job and that kind of thing. I've 135 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:49.240 been in the hair industry and cosmetology for nearly twenty 136 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:52.160 years at this point, and the very first one that 137 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.319 I ever worked for was in a really old building 138 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.759 and it actually was used. There was underground tunnels in 139 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.519 it that were I rricaded off. They were used in 140 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:05.120 bootlegger days to transport you know, liquor and stuff like 141 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:08.879 that in between and underneath the ground. And this building, 142 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.639 the basement gave me the creeps so hard. 143 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.439 But one day, what's it? 144 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.120 What's with it with basements and giving people creeps? Like, 145 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.800 I know, is it really the idea of a basement? 146 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.000 Because it's just like, you know, would that creep you 147 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.279 out unless somebody else told you their basement creep you out? 148 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.480 You know what I'm saying, Like, or is it something 149 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.759 actually there that fucking tingles your senses? 150 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:31.959 Right? 151 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.399 And what's the funny thing is is like my studio 152 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:37.879 for for my podcast and where I am right now, 153 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:39.079 it's in my fucking basement. 154 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.160 You get used to it. 155 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.560 So the whole basement was really weird. 156 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.680 And we were down there one day, the staff and 157 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.279 everybody left and I was left alone, and I honestly 158 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.680 thought like people were just messing with me, because all 159 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:00.959 of a sudden, the lights all went out and I was. 160 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.519 Like hey, and I like, shout it. I'm like that funny, And. 161 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:08.199 The lights came back on immediately, and I'm like waiting 162 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.079 for someone to come out, waiting for someone to say something. 163 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:12.279 Nobody says anything. 164 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.279 And the staircase was really close to like where the 165 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.839 door was for the break room, so I thought for sure, 166 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.040 like I'd hear footsteps. 167 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:22.240 I didn't hear anything. 168 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.680 It was like almost no noise whatsoever, which made my 169 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.480 hair stand up on end. And so I decided, I'm like, okay, 170 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.480 I'm out of here. I'm going upstairs. And I'm like, 171 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:34.320 you guys, I'm like, not fucking. 172 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:35.039 Funny, you know. 173 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.679 And they said we weren't even downstairs. They're like, we 174 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.960 promise you, like swear on our life. Nobody was down there. 175 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:47.039 After we all came upstairs and I'm like, okay, Well, 176 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.320 then I had another incident in that building where I 177 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.200 had to do this. It was a mother and a 178 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:58.639 daughter that came in and I was talking in the 179 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.440 front desk air and it was Earth month. So Earth 180 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:06.159 month is really big for an a Veda salon, which 181 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:10.600 is where I was. And we had these big, huge 182 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.080 window clings that had to go in. Do you remember, 183 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.039 like back in the day, like back in the nineties, 184 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.519 this was really big where you had charitable events and 185 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.200 then you signed like a cute little cutout piece. 186 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:24.080 Of paper to put your name up and you'd like okay. 187 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.879 So it was that, but there was this huge cutout 188 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.279 of this blue man that looked like what you see 189 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.080 on like a restroom symbol, and I was like, oh, 190 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.039 and me, it's just being my quirky, weird self. 191 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.159 I'm like, we need to name it blah blah blah, 192 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.600 let's call it Carl with a K. 193 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:44.639 And you know, the front desk girl was like, yeah, okay, whatever, 194 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:45.120 you know. 195 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.039 So I take my guest back. 196 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.039 I get her into the pedicure chair and she starts crying, 197 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.320 like she's just bawling, and I'm like, oh my gosh. 198 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:55.480 I'm like, what is wrong? Like, are you okay? What's 199 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.480 the matter? And she's like, my mom and I are 200 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:02.879 here and a year ago today my dad passed away 201 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.799 and his name was Carl with a K. 202 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.279 And I was like, shut the fuck up. 203 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.840 That was too weird, that is. 204 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.039 And I was like, okay, So again, I don't know if. 205 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:21.000 That's necessarily paranormal per se, but I do feel strongly. 206 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.480 Like something chronistic. 207 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:25.759 Chronicity was going on. 208 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:26.960 Yeah, definitely. 209 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.039 Yeah, that's that's fascinating because when you talk about basement 210 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.559 and is the what our basements? Right it's, uh, it's 211 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.399 like we stored all the things that we don't want 212 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.879 to deal with right away in basements, it seems like, 213 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.399 and so it's like an also basement, like it's like 214 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.240 the unconscious mind. It's our temple's unconscious mind that we 215 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:47.919 walk into kind of like a cave. And so it's 216 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.440 interesting that then we all have this internal fear for 217 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:52.919 those things, you know. 218 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.080 Yeah, same as being afraid of the dark, right right, Yeah, 219 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.440 it's like you just see what your mind doesn't want 220 00:10:59.440 --> 00:10:59.759 to see. 221 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:06.480 So, yeah, I was covering on it was covering uh, 222 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.320 colors and stuff and how they affect you. I mean 223 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.919 something like that with the black room, like you know, 224 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.600 I don't know, but like you know, you know, all 225 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.679 white or all black will actually like affect certain shit 226 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.120 in your eyes, which will make your brain feel certain ways. 227 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.440 So I'm wondering if that even has something to do 228 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:20.679 with it. 229 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.679 But you know, that is interesting, like what what makes 230 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.600 you start getting like all paranoid? 231 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.639 Right? Is it really like, I don't know, is there 232 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.679 something around you that's making you feel like that too. 233 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.399 I think that the cones and the rods in your 234 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.360 eyes when it's pure white or pure black, you start 235 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.159 to see the functioning of the cones and the rods 236 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:44.600 and you start to have like stimulated created hallucination your 237 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.879 own subconscious that start to interject into your mind. 238 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:50.679 Yeah, the black, you'll start doing that. 239 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.840 If it's all white, you'll fucking lose it because it's 240 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.000 almost like no detail of nowhere for you to anchor, 241 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:58.159 like where the head is, and you'll actually lose it. 242 00:11:58.919 --> 00:11:59.879 Yeah. 243 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.000 Also, like the term mysteries, like all these mystery schools 244 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.120 and the caves and all those things, when we enter 245 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:08.200 into them, the blackness and that darkness what it does 246 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:11.320 is and why also you want to close your eyes 247 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.600 when you're going into these things is because that mistays, 248 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.440 meaning like behind closed eyes, we can project our unconscious 249 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:23.799 onto that darkness. And then most of the time due 250 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:27.399 to us not having uh gone through our traumas enough, 251 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:33.000 well then we'll project these demon slash paranormal slash, these 252 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.919 experiences onto the darkness. And then it's like we almost 253 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.080 have to take our sword of reason and intellect and 254 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.080 and you know, the wand of intuition to be able 255 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.879 to battle the dragons and the demons on the wall 256 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:46.399 type of thing. 257 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.720 That's how I like that though, I like it. 258 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.960 That's interesting. Yeah, well, our eyes do project six feet too, 259 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:58.799 so star uh. 260 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.720 I guess on your on your journey of doing this podcast, 261 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:05.039 what was was there like a case that maybe you knew, 262 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.080 like when you want to start this, start your show, 263 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:08.639 was there some stuff that you already had in mind? 264 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:10.039 Like I definitely got to talk about this. 265 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.720 Yes, was that you want to talk You want to 266 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:14.559 talk about one of those? 267 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:15.279 Yeah. 268 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.000 The biggest one that stood out is I heard this 269 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:26.440 story of encephalitis lethargica, and I was like, shut up, 270 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:27.519 that's actually real. 271 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.879 I was like, holy cow. 272 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:34.759 So it's this truly terrifying thing that happened. Where what 273 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.320 would happen? 274 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:35.759 Is you? 275 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.600 Do you remember the movie Awakenings with Robin Williams and 276 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:40.840 Robert de Niro? Do you remember that movie back in like, 277 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:44.279 oh gosh, that was like late eighties, early nineties sometime 278 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:44.639 in there. 279 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.159 No, I don't remember that actually. 280 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:51.159 Okay, So Robin Williams plays this guy, this doctor who 281 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.879 discovers this these group of people that are in like 282 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.360 a mental institution asylum. 283 00:13:58.840 --> 00:13:59.320 If you will. 284 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.480 And they cannot move, they cannot speak, They're fully conscious, 285 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.679 they know everything that's going on around them, but they 286 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.240 can't do anything. They can't move, they can't do anything. 287 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.720 And so it's this weird pandemic that happened. And I 288 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:15.559 want to say it was right after World War one 289 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.960 if I remember correctly, because this was probably one of 290 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.559 my I think this was like my second episode in 291 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:25.240 my podcast, and I just could not believe the fact 292 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:29.480 that it arrived so quickly and it vanished. And what's 293 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.720 so weird is people would come, they would get better, 294 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:34.879 and then all of a sudden, it would come back, 295 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.360 and they would stay like that and they would have 296 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:42.039 no way of getting out of it, communicating until this 297 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.799 doctor came along and started realizing a connection and a 298 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:50.240 pattern and he started I can't remember offhand what he 299 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.480 was dosing the patients with, but it helped them to 300 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.240 snap out of it, only to make it worse in 301 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:02.200 the long run. But eventually this disease went away, and 302 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:05.000 nobody knows what caused it, nobody knows where it came from, 303 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.960 and it could come back at any time. And that 304 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.120 scared the living crap out of me. I'm like, that's 305 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.440 worse than what we went through with COVID. I'm like, 306 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.519 that would be terrifying to be able to look at 307 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.759 yourself in the mirror and be like, I can't move 308 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:20.919 and I can't speak, and I can barely even blink, 309 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.200 Like that would be terrifying. 310 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:25.000 Oh for fish poisoning. 311 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:27.679 That's fascinating. 312 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.519 I took too much Mullen once because I had a 313 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:33.000 like bad lung thing that happened and where I couldn't 314 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.799 breathe supposedly, if you smoked much cannabis and you're young, 315 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.639 all of a sudden you get long issues. Not the point, 316 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.320 but it's such a fascinating thing. Where then I took 317 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.240 a little a Mulling tincture because that's supposed to help 318 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:43.879 with your lungs. 319 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:45.519 And what I. 320 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.399 Did is you're supposed to take just a few drops. 321 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.440 I drank the whole bottle. I was like, I need 322 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.600 to get this gone. I went home from working and 323 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.279 I laid down, and at that time, in my younger twenties, 324 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:57.679 I still love bone thungs at harmony. 325 00:15:57.759 --> 00:15:58.360 Not the point. 326 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.720 I turned on some bone thung in Harmony, and as 327 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:04.759 I was listening to that, and then I went my 328 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:09.080 body started vibrating, and I went into a hypnagogic state 329 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:14.639 where your body becomes paralyzed. And at that same time, 330 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.799 I could I was still listening to the beautiful rhythm 331 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.919 of Botha because it's that base and that rhythm and 332 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.600 their hypnotic chanting that they do with the rhythms, and 333 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.960 all of a sudden, I had like a dream state 334 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.320 where I could still be aware of my consciousness and 335 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:33.399 I witnessed like a dark figure that was beside. 336 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:34.279 Me, but I couldn't see it. 337 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:38.240 So your story actually highly makes me feel of what 338 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:40.720 I felt when I was going through my own little 339 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.559 hypnagogic paralyzed. But I can still think and be aware. 340 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.360 What is the dark being? Is it my own projection? 341 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.879 Is it actually a demon? Is it because of what 342 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:51.080 I did earlier? You know what I mean? 343 00:16:51.120 --> 00:17:00.759 So it's uh, it's fascinating went through sleep perhaps, Yeah, 344 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.799 that's fascinating. 345 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.119 I know I had mentioned earlier before you came on, 346 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.039 I thought that a Lithuania case was kind of interesting. 347 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:12.960 Oh gosh. 348 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.839 And I know it's also a newer one for you too, 349 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:16.480 so it might be easier to talk about. 350 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.519 Yeah, the Hill of Crosses is so wild. 351 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:25.359 That is that got the fact that that got bulldozed 352 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.000 three times. 353 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:31.200 By the Soviets and each time, like. 354 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:35.480 Those those crosses kept coming back, and it is so 355 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.920 wild to me, Like I never understood either when I 356 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:39.880 was going through that case. 357 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:43.480 I'm like, why did they want it gone so badly? 358 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:46.839 Like that was the weird part to me too, but 359 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.680 the fact that people go there and it's like this 360 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.880 hush that falls over the crowd, and it's not it's 361 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.359 not a cemetery, it's not really big. It's this like 362 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.279 literally it's just this hill that's maybe thirty feet eat 363 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.519 and it is just covered with like hundreds of thousands 364 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.039 of crosses that like lay on top of each. 365 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:09.000 Other over and over again. 366 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:15.039 And people report like weird optical hallucinations, and they hear 367 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.960 things that they think are it like there, but they're not. 368 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.160 And they'll notice crosses that they didn't notice like the 369 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:27.119 first time. And it's just an incredibly overwhelming site to 370 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.359 go visit. And I would, seriously, I would love to 371 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.079 go visit it. 372 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:31.799 I think it would. 373 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.640 It's definitely on my bucket list. But you know, got 374 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:35.960 to update the passport and shit. 375 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:39.559 So what year did all this happen, As far as 376 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.079 the Soviet's trying to cloud. 377 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.519 That happened, gosh, I want to say that was in 378 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.839 the Did they do that in the thirties or the seventies. 379 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.039 I got a quick look at my notes, which I 380 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:53.279 do have them, So hang on one second, we're. 381 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:57.920 Of the police too. See the image of it. 382 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.119 Yeah, that I thought, you know what I'm even wondering 383 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.440 about now and I didn't wasn't thinking about it before. 384 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:10.440 And you mentioned, uh, a hill it is it? Could 385 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.559 it maybe be on a on a a mound? Actually 386 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:16.880 that was the. 387 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.640 Thought that that also came up it. 388 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:23.519 I didn't discover anything directly, but the initial first bulldozing 389 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:29.000 happened in nineteen sixty one. 390 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:30.440 Jesus. 391 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.519 It's almost like, uh, like oh, blood wish esque type of. 392 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.920 Oh it is just the rugged, the angular momentum of 393 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.839 it all. Now, there's a town in New Mexico that 394 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:46.920 I drove through that had the entire town every yard 395 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.720 had but they were very colorful and kind of Day 396 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.400 of the Dead kind of But yeah, this is, uh, 397 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.799 this is some creepy shit. 398 00:19:57.599 --> 00:19:59.319 Indeed, it really is. 399 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.319 And I can even imagine, like can you imagine just 400 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:06.480 standing in that spot and taking that all in like 401 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.039 that would just be so overwhelming of itself. Like people 402 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:15.359 have said that they feel very uneasy, they feel either 403 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:20.359 overwhelmed by like sadness, Like there's a lot of and 404 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.359 I'm a big believer in residual energy, and I think 405 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:27.880 there's probably a lot of residual energy in that spot 406 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.000 and it does look like a mound. 407 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.400 Yeah, that's what I was saying, right, I mean it's 408 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.079 going up high it afterwhere maybe. 409 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:38.079 Yeah, you just have to wonder what was there and 410 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.640 you know, time before time. 411 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.599 Yeah, get you get the archetype of the cross, and 412 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.039 it definitely doesn't help with the energy right. 413 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.599 Right, It's like, are they trying to keep something regulated 414 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:54.680 or they're trying to keep something bound. 415 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:56.799 They're trying to you. 416 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.720 Know, Yeah, it's got that Cathonic style energy, very Craftian 417 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.799 binding it in underneath that mound. 418 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:05.559 Yeah, definitely right, it's. 419 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:06.720 Got pet cemetery vibes. 420 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.720 But you know, there was a perpetual need for them 421 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.200 to feel like they needed to go back and redo 422 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:21.359 it time after time. 423 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.160 It's kind of like when people go to bridges and 424 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.200 some of them have people doing locks the blocks for 425 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:31.720 their relationship stuff. But then it maybe just one person started, 426 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:33.440 but then you have another one and another one. 427 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:37.720 Tons of thing like piling rocks on the trails and 428 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:43.400 certain news. You know, it's people do strange accumulations of 429 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:45.480 objects in different places. 430 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:46.279 Yeah. 431 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.599 Putting their sacrifice next to the great sacrifice at the top. 432 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.799 Of the mountain, right, Yeah, definitely. 433 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.359 Crazy. How did you find when you were researching this? 434 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:57.160 How did you find this? 435 00:21:58.240 --> 00:21:58.920 Oh my gosh? 436 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:06.119 Okay, So it initially came through via Instagram and it 437 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.359 was just like a quick little like Caro ofusel thing 438 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:10.640 on it, and I. 439 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.200 Was like, all right, is this ai or is this 440 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:15.200 you know what I mean? 441 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.960 And so I started researching and then with anything, I 442 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:22.880 start falling down the rabbit hole and I was like, 443 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.359 oh my gosh, it is real, and then I just 444 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.759 it came from that. It initially started as a as 445 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.720 a weird like thing that popped in my feet on Instagram? 446 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:34.200 Interesting? 447 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.039 And then is this right outside of I'm sorry if 448 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:37.720 I missed you saying it? Is this right outside of 449 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.559 town in Lithuania? Or where? How do you get to this? 450 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.359 Yeah? So how you get to it? That's a really 451 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.720 good question that I do not have an answer for. 452 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.920 But let's see it. 453 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.400 Like, I know that it's in a town that I 454 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:59.400 cannot pronounce because I told which the name even in 455 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:05.000 the podcast. But yeah, it's like right outside of of 456 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:06.400 Lithuania itself. 457 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:15.400 Okay, cool, I think you see it? Is it villainous? 458 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.200 It's spelled v I L l I n U. 459 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:25.680 S Yeah again, I'm probably butchering that, right. 460 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.480 I'm Chris to know from start, like, what is the 461 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.200 story that you feel like was the creepiest from your 462 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.880 show if you have like the from the top of your. 463 00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:39.279 Head, Oh my gosh, the story in my own state, 464 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.880 Saint Asians is by far the creepiest. That is the 465 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:47.440 creepiest freaking story ever. And I would probably say a 466 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.680 very close second to that is the story on the 467 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:56.519 Lamb funeral home. Those two are the Saint Asians is like, 468 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.000 if I can be really really direct on this, that story, 469 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:00.720 he's fucked. 470 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:05.480 Like, So, what happened was this guy who was a. 471 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:10.720 Priest over in Germany, took about thirteen followers, brought them 472 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:16.440 over into Wisconsin, and they roamed and found an albino 473 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:21.119 cow in the middle of East Jesus nowhere and decided 474 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:26.160 to build this commune and live sustainably. Because the priest 475 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.759 got kicked out of Germany for his beliefs and all 476 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.839 of this stuff, so he forms this like religious colony. 477 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.400 Everything is wonderful and great. He's got all these different 478 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:42.200 predictions until he's dying on his deathbed and he is 479 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:47.079 like blessing people in his like catatonic state because he's 480 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.799 dying and dismissing them. And then in the whole town 481 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.279 and this is documented, the whole town on his death 482 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:59.720 starts to shake and walls start to vibrate, and there's 483 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:05.279 all this like kinetic energy happening in town, and all 484 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.920 of a sudden, everything just like goes completely silent, and 485 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.799 he's gone, and I'm like, this is so weird, like 486 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.039 it's And I have had people tell me too that 487 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.599 have been there that when they go into like the 488 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.240 because there was a school, there was JFK Prep, there 489 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:27.160 was the Church for Saint Nasians, there were rumors and 490 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.200 I can't this was I could neither confirm nor deny 491 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.720 this to be true or not true. But there were 492 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:41.240 alleged rumors that the nuns of the JFK Prep would 493 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:46.440 take children who were quote unquote naughty or misbehaving and 494 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.119 they would try to drown them in the lake that 495 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:54.480 was nearby. And I've had someone tell me that they 496 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.839 broke into the JFK Prep to like, you know, snoop 497 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:02.160 around whatever, and they said that they had the weirdest experiences. 498 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.279 And I said, well, were you high, were you drinking? 499 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.079 Like what was going on and he's like, no way, 500 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:09.000 I was totally sober, none of the kind. But I 501 00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:12.400 was in that hallway in the in the basement, and 502 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.400 it felt like the halt just kept going, Like it 503 00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.920 was like like that elongating effect that you see in 504 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.200 like movies where it's just kept going until he finally 505 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.640 reached a room and he found this room where there. 506 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.559 Was like all these belts, all these like. 507 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:34.920 Yardwork tools and like just sharp objects. 508 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.960 And then he like skipped over and went into the. 509 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:44.960 Bell tower of the church and the bell was removed, like, oh, 510 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.160 I don't even know how long ago, but it was removed. 511 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.359 And he says he swears that he could hear the 512 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.000 bell ring. Of course he saw something in the tower, 513 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:54.599 but he doesn't know what it was. He said it 514 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.200 was totally a shadow figure. I'm like, that's creepy. I'm like, 515 00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:59.559 that's definitely creepy. 516 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:01.640 Wow. 517 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:06.119 Well, yeah, they remove bells because one of the conspiracies 518 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.480 slash stories is they remove the bells across the world 519 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.720 certain kind of frequencies that would cleanse cities and states 520 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:17.920 and areas, and so there was one big like movement 521 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.119 to get rid of these bells. So then maybe think 522 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.720 crazy shit like that could happen. 523 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.599 Wow, that's interesting. I did not know that. 524 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:28.680 Yeah, and definitely that's like a rabbit hole you can 525 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.000 fall down into, very similar to like mud flood rabbit 526 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:37.319 holes as well as like the children on the trains 527 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.039 and the eighteen hundreds and so yeah, cleansing of areas. 528 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.240 That's why they would One theory is they would put 529 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.880 bells in cities to be able to cleanse the cities 530 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.839 of forces and natural forces that. 531 00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:53.039 May be more pro you know, primal. 532 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:58.640 And also along with that the Greece from the bells 533 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:05.880 after by witches because it held certain resonant vibration and 534 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.559 it was like one of the most highly like powerful 535 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:13.839 ointments and things that they would use in uh from 536 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.079 from you know, churches specifically. 537 00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.079 That's fascinating. 538 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.480 Yeah, that is really interesting. 539 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:19.799 Wow. 540 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:21.599 So that just disappeared. 541 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.559 Yeah, like he well he wound up dying. 542 00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.240 Ah before or after he disappeared? 543 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.480 Oh no, this was like he died like in that town. 544 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.720 Okay, okay, and then all that when all that like 545 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.720 vibration and all that kinetic energy happening upon his death. 546 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.240 So I know this is you are my asking you 547 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:44.880 of your what do you do you think he was evil. 548 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.599 Do you think he was doing some shady ship or 549 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:46.839 like what? 550 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:47.400 Uh? 551 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.960 I think he was definitely into some shady ship, I 552 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:51.759 really do. 553 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.920 I'm like, something doesn't totally measure up in the story, huh. 554 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:01.960 And I don't think his deeds were were of a 555 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.359 of a necessarily of a good heart. I think there 556 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.240 was something else going on entirely. 557 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.839 And because I mean, you. 558 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.839 Got kicked out of Gervity, you got kicked out of 559 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:16.160 your own like something's not right, you know. 560 00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:16.480 Like. 561 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.400 Interesting? Do you know what denomination was this priest? 562 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:21.519 Catholic? 563 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:22.559 Is Catholic? 564 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:23.119 Nice? 565 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.559 And then where did he move to? Where was he? 566 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.480 So it's in Wisconsin and he wound up being like 567 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.559 one of the big founders of that town. And to 568 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:39.079 this day, like that town is definitely creepy to this day, 569 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.920 like it's not one that you want to drive through. 570 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.759 Like I think there's maybe about six hundred people there 571 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.720 that are are still living there, but a lot of 572 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:49.400 the town. 573 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.200 Is like boarded up. It looks very ghost towny. 574 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:53.119 What was the town? 575 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:55.240 It's Saint Asians. 576 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.319 And where's that near. 577 00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.759 Uh Okay hang on uh Manut's Walk. 578 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.640 It's near Manuttwak. 579 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.440 Okay, I know where that is nice. I'm not disclosing 580 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.720 where I'm at, but I'm in the Midwest, and so 581 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.799 I've traveled around Wisconsin, and I'm just telling you right 582 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.799 now from what I know Wisconsin. All you Wisconsin It's 583 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.799 are probably great people. That's some shady shit in that state. 584 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.559 I have traveled into the forests of Wisconsin and just 585 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.480 getting to like say Lake Superior and going to small 586 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.640 towns or traveling across it. You will travel in the forest. 587 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.079 Not only have I seen a bear. Bears are cool. 588 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.240 But then all of a sudden, I see like a 589 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.359 minimum maintenance road that leads into a forest. And then 590 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.160 above that driveway to get into this forest, there is 591 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.799 a wire across, probably for electricity. 592 00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:44.559 It's electrical wire. 593 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:49.720 But then there are like red sashes and different things 594 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.920 that are like showing you, hey, maybe you should or 595 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.559 shouldn't travel down that road. And I'm not the only 596 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:56.920 one who saw it. My girlfriend was with me when 597 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.160 we saw it, and we're like and we're let's just 598 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.720 say part of this this thinking community of you know, 599 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.960 the occult, conspiracy, paranormal, and so we instant are like, 600 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:09.920 holy shit, there's some child sacrifice going on or some 601 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.480 shit going on down there, you know what I'm saying. 602 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.519 I know there was this thing where we were coming 603 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:20.039 back from up North from because I'm like, I'm not 604 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.079 that far away from from being near the up. 605 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.960 It takes me about three hours to get up to 606 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:25.319 the up. 607 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:26.119 Oh nice. 608 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.000 Nice, And so I'm in a pretty rural area anyway, 609 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.839 which the town that I live in is also known 610 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.319 for a cult. It's also known for the cult here 611 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.039 was was really predominant, predominant. At one point, there was 612 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:46.079 an attempted assassination on the mayor in this town. There's 613 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.720 also I just did an episode on the Novitiate, which 614 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.680 is a very interesting story as well, where there was 615 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.640 like a thirty four day standoff along with really a 616 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.960 whole bunch of tragedy. But I've heard too that. So 617 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.119 my point is, we went on this trip and we 618 00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.839 were coming back from the up and we wanted to 619 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.319 go see these falls because, as you know, in the North, 620 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.599 there's a bunch of like different waterfalls, hiking areas, all 621 00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:12.200 that kind of stuff. 622 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.559 It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous it is, so we're like. 623 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.039 Oh, we'll go, we'll go hit twelve foot falls I'm 624 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.279 like that sounds cool. Well, I am telling you never 625 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.559 have I ever been more terrified because it turned into 626 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.119 like this crazy dirt road and I looked at my husband. 627 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:29.519 I'm like, this is where people go. 628 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.000 To like stash bodies. 629 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.000 I'm telling you this like right now, like this is 630 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.839 a creepy as I'll get out. I've got weird vibes. 631 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.359 I kind of want to turn around because there was 632 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.440 no road. It was just gravel to get you into 633 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.240 this hiking area and there's no markings. 634 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.039 No nothing. I'm like, this is I don't like it. 635 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:50.319 That's the direction. 636 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.759 It's strange out there. We were out there doing an expo. 637 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.240 My girlfriend was doing an expo out there, Holistic Expo, 638 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.519 and we stayed in an ARABNBA. I can't remember the 639 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.000 city name, but it's the We went for a walk 640 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.799 like we always do everywhere we go, and we're walking 641 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.200 around and all of a sudden we come across like 642 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.920 a playground slash old grain bin area that was formulated 643 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.240 to look exactly like Stonehenge. 644 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:18.359 Weird. 645 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.279 Yeah, yeah, I'm not lying, I'm lying. 646 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:21.720 I'm dying. 647 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.039 Yeah, that shit was. It was crazy. And then not 648 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.599 too far along there was like a wedding dance venue 649 00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.839 where they were doing, you know, playing their normal Midwestern 650 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.960 country wedding dance things. And so it's just such a 651 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.680 fascinating like stumbling upon this little site that you could tell, 652 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:38.839 you know, I'm from farm country, so I could tell 653 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.920 it's instantly like an old grain bins that was structured down, 654 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.559 and then there's kids playgrounds and then you you instantly 655 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.200 I'm all like, that's you know, we both are like 656 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:48.519 that's an old Stonehenge site. 657 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:49.880 That's something's going on. 658 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:50.680 Yeah. 659 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.839 Yeah, it's so intriguing. How like in the US, it 660 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.880 seems like these kind of stories pop up so much. 661 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.200 You know, I don't first and ple from Brazil. There 662 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.440 is there are some crazy stories, but usually they are 663 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.519 more related to you know, like actual things going on 664 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.840 or or there there are like religious aspects to them 665 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.760 or whatever. Right, so you can you could say like, oh, yeah, 666 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.679 the person is having the kind of religious experience. But 667 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:20.519 in the US, I know, it seems it's more of 668 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.519 a general like if someone doesn't even believe in anything, 669 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:24.920 they'll just be around like a poultry is. 670 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.920 So for thirty thirty five years now, I've been traveling 671 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.239 all across the country, like I don't know, six to 672 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.280 nine months out of the year, and I run across 673 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.360 weird places. 674 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:39.440 Everywhere we go. 675 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.719 Everywhere we go has some strain, and a lot of times, 676 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.159 you know, when we get a freaky vibe, we're like, okay, 677 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.519 we're owskis and and you know, some of those back 678 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.800 roads though, you get back into some of those hills 679 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.760 and those service roads, and I mean those are some. 680 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.280 Of the most peaceful quiet. 681 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.519 But like I said, some places you just we super 682 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.280 weird vibe and you know it's just best to keep driving. 683 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.480 So yeah, one for example, you might want to check 684 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:14.280 that out afterwards. It's uh, I'll put up the name 685 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.400 and the chat afterwards. But in portugit is called that shalling. 686 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.840 It would be like seven beyond or something like that. 687 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.079 So it started I think back in before even like 688 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:29.360 Facebook or something. It was like another social media and 689 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.880 they it's like one person talked about this. It could 690 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.840 even be that they faked it. But then after they 691 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:37.400 said it, then people started having actual experiences with that 692 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.320 thing where it's supposed to be like you take you 693 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.599 take like a side road or like a side street 694 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.920 or whatever while walking and then you end up in 695 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.199 this kind of parallel dimension where it's like it's kind 696 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.719 of like in between, you know, so it's not even 697 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.079 here but not also like that, it's just like this 698 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.239 in between place and weird people and then they somehow 699 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.199 can like go back from there. But then it becomes 700 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:06.440 against after people start talking about it, then some people 701 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.880 actually have the experience, you know, so it's kind of 702 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.400 like it becomes a thing. I'll the name of. 703 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.440 The double slit experiment, you know, the future effect in 704 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:19.920 the past. 705 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.559 So so like weird then also like both stories and 706 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.639 then they kind of start mashing or even after we 707 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.039 start getting some new technology, then new folks stories have 708 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.880 to come, right because now let's say we don't we 709 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.480 don't do a bunch of stuff that we used to do, 710 00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.840 so right, Yeah, that's true. 711 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.800 That's interesting way just to hear then not to get 712 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:48.119 it to do it too much. But I mean you 713 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.159 could see like that might be folk tales. I mean, 714 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.199 I hope they don't continue, but like you got people 715 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:55.239 say that there was gonna be zombies coming out around 716 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.119 COVID nineteen, you know. 717 00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:57.679 What I'm saying. 718 00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.679 So I mean, like you know, you can get folks 719 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:03.639 tells from the stupid theories on fucking then. I mean, 720 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.960 even like I've even covered I'm not saying I got 721 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.719 it totally right, but even when I covered vampires, I 722 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.199 think there's a good case that that was you rabies 723 00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.719 and TV scare that the church and the law figured 724 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.239 out a way to calm people down, and this is 725 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:16.719 what they did. 726 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:18.920 Yeah, you know, and now and now we have. 727 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.039 A little things and then all of a sudden they 728 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.960 take them over, and that's their parasitic nature of being 729 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.119 able to control those things to feed off of it. 730 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.719 Yeah, definitely one thing you know you had mentioned before. 731 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.880 I hate to go back, but to that place, the 732 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.519 hill with the crosses, and I guess even like maybe 733 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.280 this has something to do with like other places too. 734 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.119 But I think you were saying in your show when 735 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:42.840 I was like, oh, that sounds like such a magician 736 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.599 type way of looking at it or inn ocult this 737 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.440 way of looking at it. All these people believing something 738 00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.719 is up with it? Could you eventually just like all 739 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.480 those minds thinking that, could you create something regardless? 740 00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:58.840 Oh yes, yes, I was just gonna say that. You know, 741 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:04.199 I think it's absolutely possible. I think manifestation is totally real. 742 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.039 I think our minds can create a lot of different things. 743 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.000 And honestly, I think you can create anything if you 744 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.519 believe in it, and I think it's absolutely possible. There 745 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:18.960 was actually a documented study up in Canada and it 746 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.199 was I think it was British Columbia if I remember exactly. 747 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:23.800 But they were talking. 748 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.719 About how they did the it's called the Phillip experiment 749 00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.679 and you can you can look it up. And they 750 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:33.760 tried to create this fake ghost, so to speak, and 751 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:38.800 it wound up having actual reality to it, and they 752 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.239 and it got out of hand and they didn't know 753 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.079 how to contain it. And I'm like, that's insane, Like 754 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.559 you actually physically manifested something into existence, Like that's wild. 755 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:51.679 Do you know about the slender Man? 756 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.400 I do know about the slender Man? 757 00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.599 The slender Man is crazy, right, That that story briefly 758 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.159 peaked up in one of my episodes when I talked 759 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:07.159 about the Winnebago Asylum and that that story is just wild. 760 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.320 Those two girls and how that all happened, It's just 761 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:11.960 that's unbelievable. 762 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.559 They ended up tracing that back and it was actually 763 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.199 related to an Air Force contract and a lot of 764 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.159 people think it was a sy op that they were 765 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:26.000 actually trying to create aggregors within popular culture. And you 766 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.400 know they started the kids started seeing this figure coming, 767 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:30.639 you know, out of the woods. 768 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.719 Yeah, that's fascinating. There is actually right now going on 769 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.039 in the comic book world, a comic book called The 770 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:43.960 Department of Truth, and I've been reading it. It's done 771 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:45.960 by the guy by the name of James Tinian, the 772 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.000 fourth I believe, third, fifth, whatever. But the point is 773 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.440 the Department of Truth is all about he integrates and 774 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.199 he himself, I don't believe is an occultist or a magician, 775 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.199 a magician by trade only because he's a brilliant artist 776 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.000 or writer. So that's my But he has done a 777 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.760 lot of you can tell he's done a lot of 778 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:10.679 researchers study into various conspiracies and occult traditions and magical 779 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.800 individuals through time. And just a quick premise is that 780 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.880 it's about that there are two departments, the Department of Truth, 781 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.400 which is the United States government's Black Department, Black Ops department, 782 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.360 and then there's the Department of Propaganda, which is the 783 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.199 Russian one that was going on during the Cold War 784 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.960 time frame. And what they are saying is is that 785 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.440 the universe has these principles that basis, if enough people 786 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.079 think about it, have enough people believe in it, it 787 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:43.400 actually is created. And so for instance, like the moon landing, 788 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.559 and they didn't actually in this, they say they didn't 789 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.199 actually land on the moon, but what ended up happening 790 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.280 is enough people believed in it. They created enough propaganda, 791 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.840 this Department of Truth, created enough happenstance, put it out 792 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.119 in there with standard Kubrick and all these things, that 793 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.840 then it actually happen. And so they didn't actually have 794 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:03.760 to go there, They just all of a sudden were 795 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.320 there with the correct everything going on. It's the same 796 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:11.800 thing with the Ice Wall, the Flat Earth, slender Man, Babylon, 797 00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:16.039 the Integrates, Elvestra Croley, and the magical societies of the 798 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:17.960 Hermetic Order of the gold Don going all the way back, 799 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.880 and all these things. And so I find it interesting 800 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.679 that if, as they said in this, if you put 801 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.360 out there a syop or you have enough information to 802 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.519 push onto people, you especially little kids through TV shows, 803 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.400 that then you can get kids to create these eggrigors 804 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.559 because they are of innocence and they are connected to 805 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.360 the psychic goop, cosmic cosmic goopiness that then that is 806 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.199 created like Sasquatch and all these different things, and then 807 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.960 they have in this department, like the Black Ops and 808 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:54.800 the men in Black to go out there to try 809 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.599 to take care of these things, get rid of certain 810 00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.400 stuff because you don't want something to go out of 811 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.480 skew that you can't control it. So it reminds me 812 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.760 of like these certain happenstances of enough people believing in 813 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.719 it that than it actually exists. 814 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.599 And kids are so they're so open, they're so open. 815 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.000 I'm a parent, like, I like, I can tell it's 816 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.199 crazy if I if I'm just trying, Not that I 817 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.039 would ever deliberately do this, but you can easily tell 818 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:24.800 a kid something and they're going to take it at 819 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.000 face value. If they're young enough, you know what I mean, 820 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.679 they're going to believe you. And it's like that, it's 821 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.280 they're so susceptible. They're so susceptible. That's the same thing too, 822 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.760 Like when you hear about kids who end up having 823 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:43.519 kids tend to be more poltergeist like, oh yeah, entangled 824 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.000 then then like an adult would be. And it's so 825 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.639 interesting to me. I'm like, it's always the kids and 826 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.519 I'm like, it's got to be because they're so open. 827 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.119 Right, yeah, they're like in transition still. 828 00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.440 Yeah, yeah, and that reminds me of a golden compass. 829 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:00.639 Right. 830 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.559 If you guys have ever read that book or watch that, 831 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.039 it's the same thing, is that the kids are innocent. 832 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.440 They are connected to that etheric energy a lot more. 833 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.719 And that's what that main character, or one of the 834 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.519 main bad guys want to do, is cut them off 835 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.159 from that, because then that is like the blooming into adulthood. 836 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.079 And then you scram somebody's belief structures through a certain 837 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.840 rational way of thinking and logic, and then you know, 838 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.119 they don't their damon's don't change anymore. 839 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.760 You know, we have the Monster's inc. I think it's 840 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.280 quite an English the movie as well. 841 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:36.559 Yes, yeah, you. 842 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.039 Know one thing, if you guys don't mind me, I 843 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.119 just I looked it up real quick, and I just 844 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.760 want to kind of like, I guess I want to 845 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.599 kind of just like read a paragraph here just to 846 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.599 make it understandable, like this fillip thing. I think when 847 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:51.840 I read this for the people here that practice magic, 848 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.239 you're going to be like, oh, I like it sounds 849 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.000 like you're making a fucking aggrougu and it says their 850 00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.840 goals were to create a fictional character three purposeful method 851 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.400 and then attempt to communicate with it through sands. The 852 00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.800 character was created and agreed upon. It was named Philip whatever. 853 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.119 The Alsford or whatever referred to as Philip during the 854 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.679 test his fistic His fictional history partially coincided with actual 855 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.920 events in places, but put multiple contradictions in errors. I mean, 856 00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.840 besides all that, Like Timmy, like I remember if I 857 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.400 when I made a servi tool and when I worked 858 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.360 with servitors, I mean, that's exactly what I was doing. 859 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.000 I was creating and constantly meditating on and during ritual 860 00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.360 work to create some sort of entity that I was 861 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.719 then going to conversate with and tell her what to do. 862 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.960 Yeah like that, I don't know. Just like hearing that 863 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:39.840 and them saying that, I'm like, oh, this is totally 864 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:40.639 fucking occult. 865 00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.760 Yeah, yeah, that is so weird and like that shit, 866 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.559 just like I just wanted a weird like that, Like 867 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:48.840 how do you come up with that idea? 868 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:50.000 Solemon? 869 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.239 You know, because you've been used to doing that in 870 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.199 other ways with magic, you know what I'm saying, Like, 871 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.519 where did you get that idea? From probably from ritualistic shit. 872 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.559 Yeah to you know, at least as far as we know. 873 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:06.800 You know, so I'm sure it was going on before. 874 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.840 But the biggest documented case is Solomon, you know, stumbling 875 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:12.159 up these servitors. 876 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:17.280 And but then if you think about it, even those 877 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.199 stories themselves can be created, right given the example of 878 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:26.559 the moon in the comic book you read your past. 879 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:30.519 If you want to have like a like a magical thing, 880 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.840 you're just saying, oh yeah, from this lineage from thousands 881 00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.320 of times, you make. 882 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.400 That acceptable within the mindscape of the people that are 883 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:44.519 reading it, that thereby manifests those aspects within their own realities. 884 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.719 That's why a lot of like magical or not even 885 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.079 necessarily magical, like spiritual groups will say that, oh no, 886 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.119 actually Jesus was that thing, you know, he was actually 887 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.960 from the you know they say the space Federation or whatever, 888 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.400 or he was now related thing, because then it's well, 889 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:02.239 here was it. 890 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.360 Then he was part of the galactic federation of Palladians exactly. 891 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.360 It is a Nordic alien. 892 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.880 Crazy. That's crazy. 893 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.000 Have you do you have any certain practices of your 894 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.960 own star that help you cleanse yourself from all this 895 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.840 crazy information? That's going into your your being as you 896 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:26.840 go through these things. 897 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:33.599 I'm a big believer in sage, Oh yeah, for sure. 898 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.679 And yeah, I would say that is probably one of it, 899 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.280 one of the things that I do to just kind 900 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:44.239 of cleanse my palate in a sense. I also find 901 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.239 that if I just like, if I not only sage myself, 902 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.400 sage the room that I'm in where I've done the 903 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.760 work and I've done the things, I find that if 904 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.199 I leave and come back, it's a lot better if 905 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:02.480 I take myself out of that equation. Yeah, and I 906 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.199 always have to usually cleanse the palette with nature or 907 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.480 I honestly believe it or not. 908 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:10.519 Sometimes they just have to go to my comfort show. 909 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.840 Yeah, oh I like that. Yeah, Yeah, that definitely makes sense. 910 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.800 A lot of I think there's a big schism or 911 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.599 like stigma in not only the occult community, but the 912 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:26.199 paranormal community, the supernatural community, where I think we believe 913 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.880 too much an authority, as in like the authority of 914 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:33.119 who's giving a reading, or who thinks they're a psychic, 915 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.760 or who thinks that they are a ghostbuster or sorts 916 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.199 that I think it's really important that our own free 917 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.239 agency and autonomy. We're actually designed to I think the 918 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.119 skepticism is important that if you understand that, like there's 919 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.280 no one else you like black magic and curses in 920 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.320 that psychic goo, the psychic goo, I believe you know. 921 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.320 I'm a practice. I also study on Chinese medicine and 922 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.880 Chinese martial art. I do tai chi and chigung and 923 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.039 martial arts and stuff, and I think it's really important 924 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.760 that even in those I integrate that's the ceremonial magical practice, 925 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.679 just the chigung forms, the breathing techniques, and it's that 926 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.880 I think that there is nobody out there that is 927 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:19.760 better at cleansing your aura or your spheres of sensations, 928 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.440 or you your mind than you. And I like that 929 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.079 idea of just watching something that's nice or the sage, 930 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.280 because that's your ritual. And so I think there's such 931 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.400 a Again, I'm speaking of a certain instance. It doesn't 932 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.599 matter here, but it's like there's no candle you're buying 933 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.840 from us, a mystic psychic that you can get that's 934 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.760 going to help you with that one thousand, seven hundred 935 00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:43.880 and seventy seven dollars for this candle. If you come 936 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.880 to my room, I'll help cleanse you of your you know, 937 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.079 your psychic spheres. It's like, that's all nonsense. So I 938 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.119 really that's it's simple, and I really like that, you know. 939 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.840 And you know what's funny as well, a lot of people, 940 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.920 like you said, put a thirty not only on like 941 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.639 real people, but also on these both entities or whatever 942 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:00.800 it's interact with. 943 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.519 Let's say the ghosts, and oh, the ghost is superpower, 944 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.960 but they go see a movie like The Otters and 945 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.480 you see that the ghosts is just like a family 946 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.320 that doesn't understand that they died already. They're like interacting 947 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.079 with you in real life and you're like opening the 948 00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.599 microwave room whatever, and they're going closing, like who the 949 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:21.599 fuck opened this, and like you and them back and forth, 950 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.960 you know, just two normal families that's say, oh no, 951 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.519 the ghosts are super powerful and it's just like a 952 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:28.320 mom open. 953 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.360 So yeah, most definitely just keeping it real, you know, 954 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.480 keeping it stable, I think helps a lot to ground 955 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.039 and not get caught up. Right. I did something back 956 00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:48.079 when I started learning Kamala, actually, like very very at 957 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.079 the start of it, I think, so I had this 958 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.760 thing that when I was I think eight years old 959 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:55.880 or nine years old, and I went to like a playground, 960 00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:59.239 like an amusement park, a playground amusement park with the school, 961 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.519 and they had like the ror thing going on, and 962 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.280 I don't even remember exactly what happened, but basically after 963 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.599 that day I got kind of weirded out and I 964 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.239 would look up at like two corners and windows and 965 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.159 I would kind of see but not see things. So 966 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.559 I got kind of weirded out. And with time, I guess, yeah, rationally, 967 00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.800 like my rationale was okay, it's nothing, but the emotion 968 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.679 was there. So if I was in the dark, I 969 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.119 was like, what the fuck? You know, my body would react. 970 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.800 And then when I started learning kabala, I think very 971 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.960 start as well. I did. I did like a specific technique, 972 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.400 and it was fascinating because even again understanding it, I 973 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.679 couldn't transmute the thing because my body was doing it. 974 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.840 But after doing the specific technique, I could liberate it. 975 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:45.320 And then and then like the next day, I could 976 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.360 be in the dark and there's nothing there. So it 977 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.199 really comes down to like what Marcus was talking about, 978 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:55.760 like getting the authority of your own head. So you 979 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:57.159 are the one that can do it. You know, you 980 00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:01.159 cannot just put it into a third party and expected 981 00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:02.679 to be the best one. 982 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.880 Right, And psychologically, it's interesting when you look at a 983 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.920 lot of these magical elements, like they say that generally 984 00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.519 lower astral entities hang out in space, as in angles, 985 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.079 whereas higher astral entities. 986 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:17.000 Hang out in the arcs. 987 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:17.519 Right. 988 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.599 And when you think about it, is that something susceptied, 989 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.400 Like how we were looking at the picture of the 990 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.360 crosses on the hill and the angular momentum, the jaggedness, 991 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:32.960 theF you see something that precipitates ideas of negativity, whereas 992 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.119 when you think about things that are beautiful and sweeping, 993 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.559 you think of things that are in an arcal movement. 994 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.519 So these ideas are also deeply embedded within the subconscious 995 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.159 of who we are, you know, just as participants in 996 00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:48.920 this reality. 997 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:49.880 Right. 998 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.360 And then you go to astrology. You have the wares, 999 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:54.199 which are. 1000 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.440 To right, where all the angles laid depending on how 1001 00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.119 planets are positioned, and. 1002 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.360 The septiles, which would be more circular, and then the 1003 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:04.519 good angles. 1004 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.679 Right exactly exactly nice. 1005 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.920 How long have you been doing this star? How long 1006 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:11.039 has you been doing your show? 1007 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.960 So creepy shit took place. It started in May of 1008 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.039 last year, so it's not even a year old yet. 1009 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.960 Holy shit, you've crushed it. I just looked at I 1010 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.719 just I just followed you on Instagram. Not that you 1011 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.000 need my follow because you're crushing. 1012 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.960 That's what I was like, Yo, I'm surprised this lady 1013 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:31.159 even answered me back when I. 1014 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:36.400 Realized, good for you and this fear of trying to 1015 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.079 you know, not only just create content, but do your 1016 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.320 true will. Right, That's what we always state is that 1017 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.719 you know, as you know Crowley or any of these things, 1018 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.760 do what thou wilt shall be the hold of the law. 1019 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.920 And you found that you as you said right the 1020 00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:52.760 way in the beginning, is that you found that if 1021 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.639 you were to do your will or a less less 1022 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:02.559 stigmatized individual, Joseph Campbell find your bliss. That you've seem 1023 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:04.719 to found that, and that's fascinating. 1024 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:05.599 That's good for you. 1025 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.639 I mean, your family and friends seem to love that 1026 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:10.719 for you as well, it seems. 1027 00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:13.800 Yes, yeah, I am very very grateful. 1028 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.679 I definitely have a good support team who like definitely 1029 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:19.320 is there for it, and they're like, yeah, do your 1030 00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:24.480 jam and I'm like, thank you, yeah, exactly. 1031 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.480 Yeah. 1032 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.320 It's funny. I think I had asked Star. Probably no, 1033 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:30.920 I did ask you. 1034 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.159 I asked I think i'd asked if you were a 1035 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.000 Thlamite and you're like no, but I think you kind 1036 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.320 of identified with the whole will idea something like that, 1037 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.440 and you just use that now. So it's kind of funny, like, 1038 00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:46.400 p was there any other Was there any other cases 1039 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.360 or stories that like maybe you might want to talk 1040 00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.280 about that was pretty pretty wild to you. 1041 00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:57.159 Oh boy, let's see, off the top of my head, 1042 00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.719 I can't think of anything else at the moment because 1043 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.760 we are now I'm going into next week will be 1044 00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:09.920 the thirty sixth episode, so I'm excited about that, and 1045 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:11.920 I can't think of anything. 1046 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.199 Happend, I'm sorry, that's all right. 1047 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.320 I did want to ask, and maybe we'll kind of 1048 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.079 maybe talk about this with all of us, but uh, 1049 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.960 you know, we talk about uh again, like stuff like 1050 00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.000 appearing in the you know places or in the woods 1051 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.559 or you know, like that that mound. I think like 1052 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:30.320 even kind of had like kind of paranormal activity. Besides 1053 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.760 like you know, like maybe people's intention. Do you think 1054 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:35.760 that there's like I hate to use like lay lines, 1055 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.360 but is there like some sort of like energy kind 1056 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:41.320 of something in that area that you that you think 1057 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.480 might like, you know, contribute to what's going on. Like 1058 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.840 sometimes I wonder like places where you feel a difference 1059 00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.320 and you're like, oh, this just feels negative. Is there 1060 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.039 more of like a magnetic pull, because that would actually 1061 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.079 make you feel physically uncomfortable actually too right. I do 1062 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.880 believe that just real quick, just to finish when I'm 1063 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.360 getting at the magnetic poll, maybe would pull in enough 1064 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.400 energy to finally create something that you'd see, you know 1065 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:09.159 what I'm saying, like, maybe there's. 1066 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.280 Something going on in that area. 1067 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.079 Yeah, penogetically, definitely. 1068 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.480 I think it's absolutely plausible, and I do believe, like 1069 00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:21.360 in residual energies without a doubt. I think there are 1070 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.840 certain places that definitely hold that. And you mentioned the 1071 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:28.519 lay Lions, and that is some sometimes I love looking 1072 00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.519 to see because if you ever look at the map 1073 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:33.719 of the lay Lions, I love to see if a 1074 00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:38.400 lay line does intersect to a certain place. I didn't 1075 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.400 do that with the Hill of Crosses, but now I 1076 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:42.320 want to, and now I want to go back and 1077 00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.599 see if it does actually cross, because I do find 1078 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.159 that to be I don't dismiss it. I don't necessarily 1079 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.400 unfathomably believe it either, but I never rule anything out, 1080 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.280 like I try to keep an open logical mind. But 1081 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.719 also if I can't explain it, it definitely. 1082 00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:04.440 Makes me more of a believer. 1083 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:05.679 You know. 1084 00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.800 If you go to in Brazil, we have Umbunda Kimbunda, 1085 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.119 and I'm pretty sure who do who do something that 1086 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:16.159 would work similarly where they ask you sometimes to go 1087 00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:18.559 to the crossroads to do the work. Oh yeah, And 1088 00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.119 if you think about it, the crossroads is like an 1089 00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.960 artificial ley line. Sometimes it goes together like you have 1090 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.320 the actually they build the road like on top of it. 1091 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.000 But it's then like, uh, it's again, it's the cross 1092 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.039 You're merging two things, merging directions, merging energies, and. 1093 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.599 You have all the various spirits of the crossroads to 1094 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.880 all the various cultures and the things that you have 1095 00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.119 to do to communicate. 1096 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.320 Make bargains to bring things for Yeah. 1097 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.519 Yeah, yeah. It's the thing with like similar times as 1098 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.119 in like eleven eleven, ten ten, these kind of things. 1099 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.400 It's kind of like as if the clock it's it's 1100 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.000 it's opening up now because you have two two things 1101 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.760 going on at the same time, you know, So it definitely. 1102 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:08.000 Helps well, in the true crossroad they say isn't actually 1103 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:13.199 where two roads cross, but where a road comes and 1104 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.440 you have the split between the left and the right 1105 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:17.440 hand path. 1106 00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:19.280 Exactly. 1107 00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:23.280 Yeah, just like even that other story. 1108 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.360 Not to sound like too out there of that idea, 1109 00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.079 but like you know that guy dies and then weird 1110 00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.119 shit happens. You're gonna need energy for the weird shit 1111 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.880 to happen with the guy dying. Is that part of feeding? 1112 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:34.079 I mean, I don't, I don't know. It's just I 1113 00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.599 do wonder. Like again, like I say it on the show, 1114 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:39.360 even though I've had plenty of big foot people on, 1115 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.400 I don't know if I really buy that idea. But 1116 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.239 the one thing I always find interesting is the weird 1117 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.320 shit that's going on when they think they're coming across 1118 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.679 one right, and a lot of them do share the 1119 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.719 same I mean, unless they're ripping off each other's stories, 1120 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.159 which I don't think that's the total case. People are 1121 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.440 having the same experiences with like orbs or feelings and stuff, 1122 00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:57.559 and you just wonder, is there something in the woods. 1123 00:57:58.000 --> 00:57:59.719 You know you're in an area that's just going to 1124 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:01.039 weird shit happen. 1125 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:07.639 The energetic yes shit opening and there's this weird thing 1126 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:13.079 that I got into for a minute about potentially conscious 1127 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:18.079 astral entities laying in these hollow spots within the magnetic 1128 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:22.320 field of the Earth, so getting into conscious plasma, and 1129 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.800 you we really just don't even begin to perceive all 1130 00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:29.960 the multiplicity that this reality encompasses, Yeah. 1131 00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:30.199 For sure. 1132 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.519 And they're trying to actually they you know, I'm going 1133 00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.880 to a quote unquote they there seems to and they 1134 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.320 could just be our own ego who is trying to 1135 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:42.800 linearate time and trying to understand structures of logic. And 1136 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.480 I actually just posted today at doom quote on Instagram 1137 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.480 which is basically like you know, paraphrasing, like we always 1138 00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.199 want to try to limit the universe to our humanized logic, 1139 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.360 but really the universe is beyond that. We can't even 1140 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.320 fathom the kind of logic that the universe runs. And 1141 00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.719 so they, which is what I'm always trying to do 1142 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.800 on my channel, and just when I talk to everyone 1143 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.480 in public, is it's like they is ego. They is 1144 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:11.760 my limiting thought patterns and structures, and self is my 1145 00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:17.559 own inner divine, you know, like the bigger picture of things. 1146 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.800 And so it's that self that can see and use 1147 00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.840 all four elements that we're trying to balance as magicians 1148 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.039 in the world. And so there is a they, right 1149 00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.880 the media that's continually trying to trap us into thinking 1150 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.760 that material science is all there is, or the way 1151 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.760 that the exoteric religions want us to think of things. 1152 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:44.199 And interesting enough, these exoteric religions are using ceremonial magic 1153 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.920 and the occult, and the reason that they don't want 1154 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.679 us to know about those things is because of if 1155 00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.000 we find our own true nosis and then we can 1156 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.360 read behind the lines and between the narratives, and then 1157 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:59.639 we're less likely to be controlled. And then maybe these 1158 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:05.239 pair normal experiences that you're finding that obviously is resonating 1159 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.639 with people because you're crushing it, is that like then 1160 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.639 we have if we can see that for ourselves. Maybe 1161 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:13.960 of what I've come to understand with the cabala and 1162 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.199 myrometic magic and these things, is that the clip loft 1163 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.559 like that which is the base rooting of the hollow 1164 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.800 of the tree where all these these husks are of 1165 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.079 the gaatia, and these demons and things they are angels 1166 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:31.840 in disguise that they are actually from a different perspective, 1167 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.639 can be seen as that which can help help us 1168 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.920 find the deeper meaning in our own life if we 1169 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:40.920 have the ability to see it, you know. 1170 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.480 What I mean. 1171 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:44.719 And I like the way you said that. 1172 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:48.280 Yeah, sometimes this paranormal activity is just our brain like 1173 01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.400 trying to process like fucking weird shit that it doesn't understand. 1174 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.079 We don't Yes, yes, yes, And that's jocksaval a man, Nick, 1175 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:57.199 you just said it that, Jos, that's like a paraphrase 1176 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.199 Jaqsa Valet or any of these that are trying that 1177 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.599 we Carl Jung right, It's that we have a psychic 1178 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.480 stigma out there that we're trying to understand. We have 1179 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.480 a cognitive dissonance towards it, and we want to enrapture 1180 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.599 ourselves to try to understand it. So we put fucking 1181 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:17.360 fairies onto it, or are or we put uh, we 1182 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.440 see drones nowadays and technology, so we put that in 1183 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.960 and we see these orbs because we're like hitting this 1184 01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:27.559 transhumanist state or in the past it was you know, 1185 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.760 angels and demons and so it's what you know, we're 1186 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.840 just trying to understand and we're going to project onto 1187 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.480 that what we can. 1188 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:37.559 And we all have some sort of phenomena that we 1189 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.519 experience within our lifetimes. So in some way we're all 1190 01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.199 trying to figure out how to inter relate with what 1191 01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:52.039 you know, we're seeing, you know, and participating with. So yeah, yeah, 1192 01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.880 and I think that's, you know, the inherent draw of 1193 01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.440 of all this freaky weirdness is that you know, it's 1194 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:06.079 something that everyone who takes the time has experience with. 1195 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:10.280 Yeah, definitely, And I think we don't want to And 1196 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.000 I try to not do this because I am a 1197 01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.760 kind of a bombastic, gregarious character, so I speak in 1198 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.559 absolutes when I'm really trying not to. And it's one 1199 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:19.199 of those things where it's like, it doesn't mean the 1200 01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.599 paranormal experiences aren't real, right, it does, you know, because 1201 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.440 real is such a shoddy word where we generalize abstractions 1202 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.360 to try to understand what is real. It's like, of 1203 01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:35.920 course it's real, I'm experiencing it. It's so what level 1204 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.599 of reality am I experiencing it through? It's like it 1205 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.559 becomes strange phenomena when all of a sudden, you know, 1206 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.719 what does it mean if something outside of myself scratches 1207 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.039 me when really it was me doing it and I 1208 01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.000 didn't know it, you know, But if I'm doing it 1209 01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.639 to myself without me knowing it. Is it actually myself 1210 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:56.280 doing it? Or is it my own inner demons? And 1211 01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:00.199 it gets to that Robert Anton Wilson style of my 1212 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:03.480 is it my mind within the universe or the universe 1213 01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.000 inside my mind? And that's the level of beyond logic 1214 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.719 that I'm like that Doom quote is trying to encompass 1215 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:10.880 this kind of conversation. 1216 01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:15.320 M I like, well that you said, you know, there 1217 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:18.239 was something earlier that you had mentioned and I don't 1218 01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:20.559 know why, I just I wanted to say then, but 1219 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.079 like now it's kind of out of context. But you 1220 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.960 were saying something about like not having words to explain something. 1221 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.719 And you know, sometimes I do think, like even with 1222 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.039 the paranormal or the weird shit like that, maybe like 1223 01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:33.840 in translation, like things get lost and then it gets 1224 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.400 like woooed. But I also do think, like that's a 1225 01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.239 lot of stuff I hate to say. But I even 1226 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:41.079 think when it comes to the cult or or even 1227 01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:45.760 throw religion in there, like people will take these just 1228 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:47.360 things in there that I think these gods might be 1229 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.800 archetypes of a thing that you can't it's hard to explain, 1230 01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.480 it's hard to put it into words. So you try 1231 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.880 to create an archetype and then it kind of gets 1232 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.320 taken at phase value and then you lose the lose 1233 01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.960 the deeper meaning something you're saying earlier that kind of 1234 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.239 fit in pilot or. 1235 01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:05.239 Even like how are you gonna explain like precipitation and 1236 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:08.880 a lot of stuff for people that don't have physics 1237 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.559 or math, you know, like it set a story, and 1238 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.679 then you set a story, you use the names, and 1239 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.920 then they understand, oh, okay, that's how the sun comes 1240 01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.800 and goes and so on. But then people take it 1241 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:21.880 literally and think it's an actual person. 1242 01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:27.719 One thing I did when I ask you also start 1243 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.360 to kind of get back to uh, weird shit too, 1244 01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:33.599 and I guess maybe everybody else here when it comes 1245 01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:38.800 to like, yeah, poltergeist, do you some people do wonder 1246 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.360 if it even comes from the person themselves? 1247 01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:41.920 What's your theory on that? 1248 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.559 Like, can people actually get projecting their own hountings that 1249 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:46.519 they think is something else? 1250 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.440 Pultergeys are Really that is a really fascinating thing to 1251 01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:57.599 me because it's a level of there's allegedly, you know, 1252 01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:03.360 I've never experienced pult grace. I've only ever heard the stories, right, 1253 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.760 going back into that, so it's like it's one of 1254 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:10.880 those where it's like you have you have documented things 1255 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.880 of people telling you this, but again, are you really 1256 01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:19.639 seeing it? And you talk about telekinesis and telekinetic energy, 1257 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:22.480 energy of moving objects and all of that kind of stuff, 1258 01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.039 Like poltergeist to me, are are a very fascinating thing 1259 01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:30.960 because it's like, well, is it that person actually doing it? 1260 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:35.840 Is it a hallucination caused by that person, or is 1261 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.880 it something else entirely where like your mind thinks it's happening, 1262 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.719 but it's not really happening, and so now it's become 1263 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.760 this poltergeist thing. And going back into that to what 1264 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:48.920 we talked a little bit before, is like, well, now 1265 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.800 it's becoming believable because this person said that this happened, 1266 01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:54.639 and now they're going to start to think that they 1267 01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.480 see that stuff. So is it really just a mind 1268 01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:00.280 over matter thing or is it something that is actually 1269 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.719 truly a phenomenon that is going on. Poltergeist are super 1270 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:10.639 super fascinating to me because in that realm, I don't 1271 01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:12.880 know what to believe because I want to believe that 1272 01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:19.559 such a thing could exist and that telekinesis can absolutely 1273 01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:23.199 happen from someone's mind into an actual physical object, like 1274 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.400 actually moving something across my desk with my mind, that 1275 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.519 would be amazing. But that kind of energy, and I 1276 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:33.280 am a big believer that we're all energy, Like, how 1277 01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.679 do you even harness that because nobody's ever even talked 1278 01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.039 about that from a Poltergeist experience of how they actually 1279 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:41.119 did it? 1280 01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:49.039 Does that make sense? If I'm making sense? I hope it's. 1281 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.679 Something where it's like, is it really a mind over 1282 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:54.039 matter thing and they think they're seeing it or are 1283 01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:55.840 they actually doing it? 1284 01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:01.400 Some of the phenomena associated with Poltergeist when you if 1285 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:06.840 you've read Charles fort sw egos into documenting all of 1286 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.079 these cases of money falling out of the sky, all 1287 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.199 like a lot of the phenomenal type of phenomena, and 1288 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.119 then when you get into you know, more modern times 1289 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.800 with them creating the Poltergeist movies and what all the 1290 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.719 levels that entails that, and you know that was on 1291 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.480 top of an Indian burial mound back to the mountains again. 1292 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.920 But at the same time, it's like, are are these 1293 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:39.039 things physical phenomena that physical science can't necessarily understand or 1294 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:44.599 trace down and enough people experience them that it's it's 1295 01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.079 like you have to almost think that there are some 1296 01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:52.960 sort of outside forces that are working in situations such 1297 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:53.760 as poltergeist. 1298 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.440 I have one experience, if I may share, Yeah, total 1299 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.960 this year, I think, yeah, it was this year, Like 1300 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:04.679 my mom was kind of you know, as normal sometimes 1301 01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:06.719 you get we don't have clarity in the future. And 1302 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.920 so she came to me for some readings like Enrage 1303 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.480 readings and Schorge readings. Whatever I did. I did everything 1304 01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.360 I could to like any type of reading to kind 1305 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.520 of guide her. And then it was funny because I 1306 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.119 did it. Like we spent two or three hours talking 1307 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.800 about it as one and then it was really late 1308 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:27.920 at night. We went to the kitchen to like drink 1309 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.600 some water. She went up, I went to my room, 1310 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:33.279 and then as she went up and I went to 1311 01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.359 my room, I heard like a like I stayed in 1312 01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:38.880 my chair in one and I heard like a big 1313 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.520 like like loud noise, and then I thought, like what fuck, 1314 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:44.479 Like it's all good, Like I asked her, it's a 1315 01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.800 good and then she came unless like so I thought 1316 01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:50.199 something happened to you, Like I was, yeah, it was 1317 01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.119 all good. And then we went to the to the 1318 01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:57.039 living room, and then we found like it was a picture, 1319 01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.960 not a picture, but like a drawing, like a painting, 1320 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.119 and it had felled down. Well, we were there for 1321 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:09.000 like two years already and never never bothered with that place, 1322 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:11.640 that painting, because you know, the place was granted and whatever. 1323 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:13.800 And then it just fell down like that was very 1324 01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.960 weird by itself, that the thing fell down. You know, 1325 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.920 there's no tremors, nothing right, and it was the only thing. 1326 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.399 There was another one on top of it, which if 1327 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:25.399 there was enough strength, both would fell down, but just 1328 01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.960 just that one felt them. And then we got it. 1329 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.319 I took to take a look, and then the thing 1330 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.640 was about like don' key shot, you know, I don't 1331 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:35.560 know if that's the name in English, but whatever, it's 1332 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.680 like the story the guy. It's like a warrior type 1333 01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:40.720 of thing and some one. And it was so funny 1334 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.600 because when she looked at it, she was like, ah, 1335 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.880 she got like an insight from the one thing she 1336 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.880 was thinking after she had the readings this one. And 1337 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:50.920 then we also saw from where it was and it 1338 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.399 was from a city, like again a bunch of synchronicities 1339 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:57.399 from that painting falling down where again there's no real 1340 01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:59.560 reason for them to fall down like there's nothing like 1341 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.399 there's there's aware like the house is all closed up 1342 01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.680 at night, there's nobody else in the in the in 1343 01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.840 the house and one. So it was very weird, but 1344 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:11.159 it was cool for for her because it kind of 1345 01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.319 connected like it had. Also, the synchronistic aspect was not 1346 01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:17.239 just a random painting felling down, but just like it 1347 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:21.239 had or thought patterns exactly. And then you get into 1348 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.279 what Star was saying, like it can become kind of 1349 01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:27.920 a cognitive uh you know, focused there you have like 1350 01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:30.800 a I think you want to prove, let's say, but 1351 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:36.119 I guess if it helps with something that cool doesn't matter, Like, yeah, yeah, 1352 01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.039 it was a it was a funny thing. 1353 01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:40.560 M hm. 1354 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.960 Was there anything else? Anybody want to talk about the store? 1355 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:45.840 Anything you wanted to mention before we wrap it up, 1356 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:48.840 Any other stories or anything. 1357 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:50.279 Anything, want to promote anything coming up? 1358 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:54.199 Oh well, I'll share this juicy little nugget with you. 1359 01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:00.159 I'm working on releasing my first book. Oh great, Yeah, 1360 01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:03.520 so I'm hoping that it'll be out by summer. I'm 1361 01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:06.520 in the process of doing all the dirty work of 1362 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.000 formatting and editing and all that kind of stuff and 1363 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:14.039 it's a fiction book, but it is based on the 1364 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:18.720 paranormal and supernatural type things, so I'm excited about it. 1365 01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:20.960 Oh nice, that's great. That's great. You got like a 1366 01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:22.359 publishing company or anything. 1367 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:25.359 I'm probably gonna self publish and then I'm going to 1368 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:27.880 send it off to publishers after that, just to see. 1369 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:29.239 I just want to be able to get it out 1370 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:34.079 right away, and then I'll still submit to some publishers 1371 01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:36.439 because I've got a couple that I would really really like, 1372 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:39.760 you know, the Golden Carrot kind of publishers that I 1373 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:41.479 would be really cool if they picked it up. 1374 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:42.640 But we'll see what happens. 1375 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:44.239 Yeah, good luck with that. When you put it out 1376 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:46.199 or whenever if you want, you can always come on 1377 01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:47.359 and talk about it or whatever. 1378 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.399 Oh that would be so great. Absolutely, I'd be honored 1379 01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.479 to great. 1380 01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:54.880 Yeah, that's awesome. So yeah, people take a look out 1381 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:56.279 for that. If you're going to go followers, you got 1382 01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.920 a book, come it out. I guess we'll wrap it 1383 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.239 up now if you don't want, I'll let everybody kind. 1384 01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:04.319 Of plug themselves and then you can promote your stuff. 1385 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:06.159 Matt, you want to go ahead and let everybody know 1386 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:07.720 where they can find you and all your amazing work. 1387 01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:11.159 For sure. Thanks a lot again for everyone that joined 1388 01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:13.199 and for everyone here in the panel. So you can 1389 01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:16.319 always find me at at metmor on nineteen. That's gonna 1390 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:21.199 be on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, Twitch, maybe some other place. 1391 01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.319 There's also our spaces on Twitter from the Gray Lodge 1392 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:29.079 and we archive them on the True Gray Lodge dot 1393 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.279 com with a V so truth. There's also my website 1394 01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:35.079 Cabala dot com k A A B A l a 1395 01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:37.760 h dot com, where I do a lot of cool stuff, 1396 01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:41.359 especially now the Tarot readings. For so, I'm doing a 1397 01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:43.359 cool little project. If you want to be a beta tester, 1398 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.600 just DM me you I'll hook you up into the details. 1399 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:50.640 They had a really cool experience also with Tarot recently. 1400 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.640 I posted about it on Twitter. It was really nice 1401 01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:55.640 and I want to keep working more on that. Suture 1402 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:57.039 is just them me you. I'll let you know. 1403 01:12:57.359 --> 01:12:59.840 Hit me up about that myself, man for sure. 1404 01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:06.640 Yeah, magas sorry, Hey, yeah, thank you, Nick, thank you Star. 1405 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:09.840 It was wonderful to meet you. Yeah, that's amazing. I 1406 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:13.239 will throw you on the Spotify while we're traveling and 1407 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:15.000 we'll see if we can have any of our own 1408 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.800 paranormal crazy shit happen, and I'll let you know if that. 1409 01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:19.600 Happens, and I'll be sure to follow you back. 1410 01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:20.439 Thank you. 1411 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:20.760 Star. 1412 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.920 Yes, everyone out there, please head over to magas and 1413 01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:29.640 the media and all the things YouTube x and Instagram, 1414 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.920 doing all the stuff as much as possible at all times, 1415 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:33.880 trying to come out with all the things. I'm actually 1416 01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:37.920 interviewing Ike Baker on the channel yeah, and so I 1417 01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:39.720 will be doing that this week and then coming out 1418 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:41.359 with that as soon as possible by the end of 1419 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:43.960 the week. So that should be a great conversation. He's 1420 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.720 a brilliant man. I'm also going to be doing some 1421 01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.239 stuff with Jin the Ninja coming up soon as well. 1422 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.319 Call out to our boy Jim the Ninja. When'll be 1423 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:54.720 breaking down some of that anime, comic books and all 1424 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.840 the things that we can do. I'll be coming out 1425 01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:00.880 with all kinds of stuff up soon. The world is 1426 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.760 getting stranger. I got my live streams going on, and 1427 01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:07.359 I'm just trying to break down the strange dystopic world 1428 01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:09.680 that we have going on and trying to help everyone 1429 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.520 find their own personal myth and become their own superhero. 1430 01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:16.239 So I again, Nick, thank you, so much for having 1431 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.840 me our Marks. It's great to meet you too, bro, 1432 01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:22.119 and Matt Mora. I want to do some stuff with 1433 01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:25.279 you as well. I just just accepted your friend request 1434 01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:26.640 and so we're connected as well. 1435 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.640 So for sure, great stuff. 1436 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:28.960 Thank you. 1437 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.239 Yeah, I thought that was when I when I was 1438 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.239 first getting you on, I even sent your PROFILEOGE. 1439 01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:34.880 You know, I was like, Yo, check this guy out, 1440 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:37.199 and I know it. 1441 01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:40.479 Good stuff, good stuff. You do go live on any 1442 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:42.119 certain days? Do you have a certain schedule for that 1443 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:42.319 or not? 1444 01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.520 Kind of I'm working on the schedule. Yes, it's in 1445 01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.199 the evenings on Sundays and Mondays is normally when I'm 1446 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:53.600 going live after five six seven. I my life is 1447 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.039 a little disorganized currently, so I try to put it 1448 01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.239 up on at the things when I do it. But 1449 01:14:58.279 --> 01:14:59.840 Sundays and Mondays are my lifetimes. 1450 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.119 Evening awesome, So go over to the channel, hit that 1451 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.800 subscribe button and take a look out for that live 1452 01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:06.760 notification on Sundays and months. 1453 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.119 Yeah, thank you of course of course. 1454 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.520 And mister Marks, sir, please let everybody know where they 1455 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.119 can find all your amazing work and your art. 1456 01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:17.079 Yeah, thanks for having me on again, Nick, And as 1457 01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:19.760 far as Matt and Nick. It's always good to see 1458 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:23.960 you guys. Star and Megas good to meet you guys. 1459 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.920 As far as myself, I'm an artist illustrator. I do 1460 01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:34.560 various stuff for bands, festivals, and then right now I'm 1461 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:38.159 working on illustrations for my Nimrod book, which is pretty 1462 01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.720 much what I've been wrapped up in more time than 1463 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:44.640 I care to even talk about. And that's all coming along. 1464 01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.760 If you want to check out my various stuff, my artwork, 1465 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:52.039 my social media, my podcast, the Metamindcast, you can go 1466 01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:54.359 to my link tree which is link tree r m 1467 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.760 a ar x and that'll pull up all the stuff. 1468 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.399 And it's always pretty much this time of the year, 1469 01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:04.159 I'm really a hermit, so Nick is one of the 1470 01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.079 few people that can kind of draw me out and it's. 1471 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:09.399 Always fun to try to hang out. 1472 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.199 So yeah, thank you Robbie. It's always a pleasure to 1473 01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:12.920 have you on the show. 1474 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:15.039 You know you're a staple to the occult reject so 1475 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:19.840 always love always love it me. Yes, Yes, and last 1476 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.119 but not least, Star, Please let everybody know where they 1477 01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:22.760 can find. 1478 01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:23.199 All you stuff. 1479 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:26.640 Absolutely, and thank you, thank you so much Nick for 1480 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.720 bringing me on for this. This was amazing. Meeting all 1481 01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.479 of you guys has been absolutely fantastic. I will definitely 1482 01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.640 be seeking you guys out to friend you and all 1483 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:37.800 of that. It's been so wonderful. Thank you to everybody too. 1484 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:40.199 I see like the comments popping up on my screen 1485 01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:43.000 and everything, and you guys are super awesome, so thank you, 1486 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.800 thank you. You can find me over on Instagram at 1487 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:50.119 Creepy Underscore Shit Underscore Podcast. I'm also on TikTok at 1488 01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.119 Creepy host Star and you can listen to the Creepy 1489 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:57.680 Shit Podcast wherever podcast platform you love perfect. 1490 01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.279 Yes, thank you so much again for coming on love 1491 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:01.159 talking about weird shit. 1492 01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.159 So this was perfect. We'll have to get you on 1493 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:04.920 and talk about some more creepy shit in the future. 1494 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.399 And again, good luck on the book and everybody in 1495 01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:08.920 the chat. Thank you. That's what's up. There was a 1496 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:10.319 lot of good comments in there, a lot of people 1497 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.920 checking it out and I appreciate it. And that's where 1498 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:16.319 we go live and until the next one, everybody be well. 1499 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:17.000 Lada