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Speaker 2: Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so
Speaker 2: much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman
Speaker 2: Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you being here. For years upon years,
Speaker 2: I've told Dogman eyewitnesses that unfortunately, these guys are masters
Speaker 2: at pushing our buttons. They just know exactly what to do,
Speaker 2: just the right or I should say, maybe you're the
Speaker 2: wrong moment to really get the maximum effect out of
Speaker 2: the encounters they forced to happen with us. It really
Speaker 2: isn't fortunate. It's not like they're frightening enough to look at.
Speaker 2: But when you add the fact that they're so good
Speaker 2: and knowing how to frighten us on top of that,
Speaker 2: it's no wonder that these encounters are so traumatic for
Speaker 2: so many eyewitnesses. Well, when you listen to what happened
Speaker 2: to tonight's guest when she had the two encounters that
Speaker 2: she had, it's a testament to what I've been preaching
Speaker 2: for all these years. The dog man she encountered it
Speaker 2: did what it did for maximum effect. That's all there
Speaker 2: is to that. Well, without any more delay, let's bring
Speaker 2: her in here now. Tonight's guest is Mindy. Mindy, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show.
Speaker 1: Hi, thanks so much for having me. I hope that
Speaker 1: you can hear me well.
Speaker 2: Loud and clear, and thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Mindy. Please give us a brief bio
Speaker 2: on yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm originally from Georgia and I moved to Maryland
Speaker 1: a few years ago and I live here with my
Speaker 1: boyfriend and our two dogs.
Speaker 2: Well, since one of your dogs plays a role and
Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about tonight, first thing right
Speaker 2: off the top, please tell us about her.
Speaker 1: The dog that was with me during the encounter is
Speaker 1: now three years old. She was two years old at
Speaker 1: the time. She is half American bulldog and half yellow
Speaker 1: Labrador Retriever. She's the type of dog that you know
Speaker 1: when you take her outside, she always wants to point
Speaker 1: at the other animals. So you can say, look at
Speaker 1: the bird, and she'll point with her paw at the bird,
Speaker 1: or you can say look at the squirrel, and she'll
Speaker 1: go and look for the squirrel, look at the deer,
Speaker 1: so she loves to do that, and that also plays
Speaker 1: a role in our encounter.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting combination there. Does she look more like
Speaker 2: an American bulldog or more like a lab?
Speaker 1: She looks more like a lab in the face, but
Speaker 1: she does have that chest of a bulldog, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sounds like a neat dog. Lucky to
Speaker 2: have her, you really are definitely yeah, I'll bet it
Speaker 2: sure sounds like it. Without giving any details, Mindy, from
Speaker 2: your encounters, please tell us about how those encounters have
Speaker 2: seemed to affect her well.
Speaker 1: She has definitely. She used to be more outgoing. She
Speaker 1: would walk up to strangers and want to be petted
Speaker 1: and never had an enemy. But now every time we
Speaker 1: go outside, if she hears a strange noise, she'll slip
Speaker 1: out of her harness or slip out of her collar,
Speaker 1: and she'll try to run to the door to get inside.
Speaker 1: And when she saw this, she was shaking like a leaf.
Speaker 1: And she was seventy three pounds at the time.
Speaker 2: Poor thing. Yeah, it's no wonder she was shaken like
Speaker 2: a leaf. That's how these guys affect almost all dogs
Speaker 2: out there, even ones that are well over one hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: They just have that effect on them. Won't that effect
Speaker 2: on people also? And for good reason. They're awfully frightening
Speaker 2: to be around and look at. Early in your life,
Speaker 2: from what I understand, something happened to you that just
Speaker 2: might play a role in you having these dog me
Speaker 2: and encounters and these other pureanormal experiences that you've been
Speaker 2: made beer. Please go into detail on that.
Speaker 1: Well. I had some early childhood trauma at a young age.
Speaker 1: I watched my sister get hit by a car and
Speaker 1: become paralyzed from the neck down. And they were always
Speaker 1: strangers in our house. Who were you know, the nurses.
Speaker 1: She had to have twenty four hour nursing and at
Speaker 1: a certain point in time, a team of the nurses
Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted to play a game, and
Speaker 1: they brought in a Weiji board, and so I thought
Speaker 1: they were playing a game. I've had paranormal encounters because
Speaker 1: of that since that time, and it's definitely not a game.
Speaker 1: So I highly advise you to never touch one of
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good advice for me. How they made
Speaker 2: you participate and that was just even more over the top,
Speaker 2: absolutely horrible. Please tell us more about that.
Speaker 1: Well, they asked me. They came into my bedroom and said, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to play a game with us? Then
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I think I was playing Nintendo at
Speaker 1: the time. And so they said, all right, well, we're
Speaker 1: going to come in and we're going to sit in
Speaker 1: a circle, and they lit some candles and they shut
Speaker 1: the bedroom door and they turn the lights off, and
Speaker 1: they said, we're going to hold hands. And something you
Speaker 1: have to know about this room is that there used
Speaker 1: to be a door to the outside, and my dad
Speaker 1: had walled that off and expanded the room and added
Speaker 1: the bathroom, so I had my own bathroom and that
Speaker 1: door is no longer there, but it would have been
Speaker 1: right next to my bed. And so we're sitting in
Speaker 1: a circle, we're holding hands, and one of the nurses says,
Speaker 1: if there's anyone here with us, then move our hands.
Speaker 1: And her hands started to move up and down, and
Speaker 1: I kind of opened one eye and looked at one
Speaker 1: of the nurses and I said, you're doing that, and
Speaker 1: she said, no, I'm not. And then I looked at
Speaker 1: the other nurse and I said, then you're doing that
Speaker 1: and she said no, I'm not. And if you you know,
Speaker 1: think that we're lying. Then you ask a question, and
Speaker 1: I said, okay, And I looked at my bedroom door
Speaker 1: and I said, if something's here with us, then knock
Speaker 1: on the bedroom door. And there was a knock at
Speaker 1: the door. But there was a knock at the door
Speaker 1: from the garage, and it was just a continuous knocking.
Speaker 1: It started off really softly, and then it knocked louder
Speaker 1: and louder and louder and louder until it was literally
Speaker 1: shaking the side of the house and it woke my
Speaker 1: parents up from upstairs.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is really freaky. It really is. Holy cow. Yes,
Speaker 2: an experience like that that makes it awfully hard to
Speaker 2: have a well adjusted life. But you have. After all
Speaker 2: these things you've experienced, you're still very well adjusted, which
Speaker 2: that's awfully impressive.
Speaker 1: I just do the best I can, so oh all
Speaker 1: you can do.
Speaker 2: You're definitely doing it. You definitely are. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if you realize this, not mindy, but tonight is just
Speaker 2: about a year, exactly a year to the day almost
Speaker 2: from when you had that group of dog mean encounters,
Speaker 2: because your encounter has happened on the twenty second of
Speaker 2: June last year.
Speaker 1: You said, yes, June twenty second, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Did you realize that I did?
Speaker 1: Okay, I figured out stry to make me a little nervous.
Speaker 1: So do you realize this? It's coming up on a year.
Speaker 2: Don't be nervous. Yeah, that doesn't make it any more
Speaker 2: likely to That're sure you can have another encounter, so
Speaker 2: you should be just fine. You should now that we're
Speaker 2: about a year into the future from those experiences. Have
Speaker 2: you been dealing with all those things that come along
Speaker 2: with having two encounters?
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I just do the best I can.
Speaker 1: I don't like taking my dogs out at night by myself.
Speaker 1: I prefer having my boyfriend with me, so there's two
Speaker 1: of us. I just feel like we're less likely to
Speaker 1: see something if there's more than one person outside. I
Speaker 1: live in a really quiet community. My apartment building is
Speaker 1: really quiet, so people aren't really up late that I've noticed,
Speaker 1: at least not in my building in the building surrounding me.
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to deal with it the best
Speaker 1: way that I can, which is just to pretty much
Speaker 1: avoid being outside at night by myself.
Speaker 2: Does your boyfriend know about those encounters?
Speaker 1: He does. I told him immediately because he was working
Speaker 1: late at night when this happened. At the time, he
Speaker 1: was working at a bar and the bar was open
Speaker 1: until like two thirty at three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: and so this happened around one thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I messaged him to be really careful when he
Speaker 1: comes home because we saw something in the grassy area
Speaker 1: and it was big.
Speaker 2: How did he take that? Did he take that well?
Speaker 1: Or he did He said he would be careful, and
Speaker 1: he believes me. He believes in cryptids. I was a skeptic.
Speaker 1: I never believed in cryptids. I believed in ghost because
Speaker 1: of the encounters that I'd had as a child, but
Speaker 1: I never believed in any cryptids until I was face
Speaker 1: to face with this one.
Speaker 2: And now, you know, unfortunately, y unfortunately yeah, yeah, I'd say,
Speaker 2: all right, mindy, please tell us about your encounters. Now
Speaker 2: give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we have to start with the fact that
Speaker 1: I was playing video games with my friends, and that'll
Speaker 1: come into play later. I was playing Fortnite, which is
Speaker 1: a very popular game, and the character that I was
Speaker 1: playing ass is a white wolf character named Bulpees. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can look it up and see what
Speaker 1: it looks like. It looks like the white wolf. My
Speaker 1: older dog came and notified me that she had to
Speaker 1: go potty. So I told my friends, hey, I'm going
Speaker 1: to sit out for a little bit. I've got to
Speaker 1: take my dog's potty. I'll be back. So I took
Speaker 1: my older dog out no issues, came back in, grabbed
Speaker 1: my younger dog to take her out, and across the
Speaker 1: street from me, like I said, is this field. The
Speaker 1: field is owned by the power company, so it's about
Speaker 1: a football field in length I would estimate. But my
Speaker 1: apartment community at the time, they didn't do any maintenance
Speaker 1: on the field. They didn't mow the grass or anything
Speaker 1: like that. They just let it grow because it wasn't
Speaker 1: wasn't their problem. It belonged to the power company, and
Speaker 1: the grass had grown to about four and a half
Speaker 1: to five feet tall. But typically there's beer over there
Speaker 1: all the time, anywhere from you know, five to sixty
Speaker 1: beer at one time you would see over there. They
Speaker 1: just loved it. So we were outside and I was
Speaker 1: letting my dog do you were busy. I heard what
Speaker 1: I thought was a stick breaking, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a deer approaching us. So I
Speaker 1: turned around and I said, Diana, look at the deer.
Speaker 1: And I just stopped mid sentence because what I was
Speaker 1: looking at was not a deer. I was looking at
Speaker 1: seven and a half to eight foot tall. What in
Speaker 1: my brain I could only describe as a werewolf, which
Speaker 1: sounds insane because I didn't believe in them. But my
Speaker 1: brain literally went, that is a werewolf. Werewolves don't exist.
Speaker 1: We're going to die. And I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: When I first saw it, it had its head to
Speaker 1: the side and it was sniffing the air, and then
Speaker 1: it turned its head slowly and it looked at me.
Speaker 1: It looked down at my dog and then back up
Speaker 1: at me, and so to describe it, it was very muscular.
Speaker 1: I could see one of its arms completely. Eggs were
Speaker 1: in the grass. I couldn't see its feet from what
Speaker 1: I could tell, they were more on the canine side.
Speaker 1: It had a tail that was twitching, its ears removing
Speaker 1: independently of each other. It had a long nose. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I could see it sniffing the air, so
Speaker 1: I could see its big ears with kind of like
Speaker 1: German shepherd ears. It had five fingers for lack of
Speaker 1: a better term on each hand, and the pawpad was
Speaker 1: similar to like a raccoon's popad. It was black and
Speaker 1: it had three inch curved black nails on each claw.
Speaker 1: And I just thought we were toast. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do. I started panicking. Time started to slow
Speaker 1: down like it does when you're in a life and
Speaker 1: desk situation, and I just knew this is a predator.
Speaker 1: If we run, we're going to die, so for sure,
Speaker 1: no question. So I thought, what would you do if
Speaker 1: there was a bear or a mountain lion? So I
Speaker 1: puffed up my chest, and I moved my dog from
Speaker 1: my left hand to from my right hand to my
Speaker 1: left hand because I'm right handed, and I planted my
Speaker 1: feet and I stared at it directly in the eyes,
Speaker 1: because I thought, if this thing charges me, I'm not
Speaker 1: going down without a fight. I'm at least going to
Speaker 1: try to save my dog. And I just waited on
Speaker 1: it to attack, and I stared it down. I gave
Speaker 1: it the meanest look I possibly could, and then I
Speaker 1: started slowly walking backwards. And as I started walking backwards,
Speaker 1: it made this really weird motion where it kind of
Speaker 1: shifted its hips to the left and then to the right,
Speaker 1: and it was halfway in the grass, and then it
Speaker 1: shifted tips to the left and then to the right again,
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't see it at all, so I
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was going to pounce on us.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was going to walk away.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. So I continued to walk us backwards,
Speaker 1: and I just kept my eyes trained on that spot.
Speaker 1: And then I got us into the house. I immediately
Speaker 1: dead bolted the door. I took my dog's leash off,
Speaker 1: I hung it up. Like I said, she was shaking
Speaker 1: like a leaf. I was having to pull her backwards
Speaker 1: when I was walking backwards. She didn't bark, she didn't
Speaker 1: make a noise. She was just shaking. And as soon
Speaker 1: as I dead bolted the door, I kind of put
Speaker 1: my back against the door and took a deep breath,
Speaker 1: and then I looked at my hand, and I was shaking,
Speaker 1: and I took two to three steps away from the door,
Speaker 1: and something jiggled the door handle. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was just bad timing or if this thing
Speaker 1: scented us and followed us, but I am leaning towards
Speaker 1: it scented us and followed us and tried to get
Speaker 1: into my apartment. And my dogs, which are very reactive
Speaker 1: if someone walks by outside, they're barking. They were very quiet,
Speaker 1: and they just looked at the door and then at me,
Speaker 1: and back at the door, and I just took a
Speaker 1: queue from them and stayed as silent as possible, and
Speaker 1: I tried to slow my breathing as much as possible,
Speaker 1: and I just tried to wait it out. And then
Speaker 1: when my dogs started to move around and act more normal,
Speaker 1: then I walked all the way into the living room
Speaker 1: and there was a close up of my character on
Speaker 1: the screen on the TV screen, and I just I
Speaker 1: didn't say bye to my friends. I just disconnected the
Speaker 1: xbox and turned it off, and I messaged my boyfriend
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't know what me and Diana
Speaker 1: just saw, but there's something big in the grass in
Speaker 1: the field, and you need to be very careful on
Speaker 1: the way home. Do not run walking into the house,
Speaker 1: but you need to be very careful. And that was
Speaker 1: that was our n Conner.
Speaker 2: You poor thing. That's awfully traumatic. I'm wondering, though, well,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was. It's kind of hard to answer
Speaker 2: this question, but how hard do you think this would
Speaker 2: have been to deal with if it wouldn't have come
Speaker 2: and jiggled your doorknob the way it did.
Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely still would have been traumatic, but
Speaker 1: that was like the icing on the cake. That was
Speaker 1: just another level of it knows where I live, Like
Speaker 1: it followed me home, It knows where I live. And
Speaker 1: then I I am just wondering what would have happened
Speaker 1: had I not dead Both to the door. I know
Speaker 1: that it clearly was strong enough it could have just
Speaker 1: ripped the door off, but I was afraid to look
Speaker 1: out the peopole to see if it was a person
Speaker 1: or not, because what if it was staring back at
Speaker 1: me through the peopole, And would that have given it
Speaker 1: incentive to tear the door off and come inside? And
Speaker 1: then what would have happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it didn't do anything it didn't want to do,
Speaker 2: and it did everything it did want to do. Like
Speaker 2: I told you when we had that first conversation, the
Speaker 2: biggest enemy when you have a dogman encounter, In almost
Speaker 2: every case. It's not always this way, because sometimes dog
Speaker 2: mean encounters do go bad, but in almost every case,
Speaker 2: the biggest enemy when it comes to having a dogman
Speaker 2: encounter is what your own imagination can come up with.
Speaker 2: What it can come up with it your imagination makes
Speaker 2: you believe the dog man wanted to do or might
Speaker 2: still do in the future. But like I told you,
Speaker 2: it did everything it wanted to do, and it didn't
Speaker 2: do anything it didn't want to do. That's the good
Speaker 2: news of it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I hate the fact that it came back and or
Speaker 2: it came over and jiggled at your door knob, but yeah,
Speaker 2: these guys do that sort of thing all the time,
Speaker 2: but that's just to get her more of a rise
Speaker 2: out of you. I hate the fact that they love
Speaker 2: to push her buttons away. They do, but that's clearly
Speaker 2: why it did that, Like we talked about in that
Speaker 2: first conversation, like you just acknowledged, if I wanted to
Speaker 2: snatch that door out of your wall, it could have
Speaker 2: done that, But it didn't do that because that's not
Speaker 2: what it was out to do. It just wanted to
Speaker 2: get a rise out of you. Like I said, now
Speaker 2: to highlight how these things just love to push our buttons.
Speaker 2: Perfect example. I'm not sure how many years it's been
Speaker 2: since this happened, but there was a gentleman and his
Speaker 2: wife who are sitting watching They're having a TV night
Speaker 2: movie night, just sitting on their couch watching this movie.
Speaker 2: I think it was a Saturday night or something like that,
Speaker 2: and they had a bowl of popcorn and everything was
Speaker 2: just great. Well, one of them heard, maybe both of
Speaker 2: them heard this noise at this door that was on
Speaker 2: the side of their house. So the husband, he got
Speaker 2: up and walked over to investigate. Well, he grabbed the doorknob,
Speaker 2: unlocked the door, grabbed the doorknob and twisted it. He
Speaker 2: started to open the door to take a look out. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what was standing right there on the outside of
Speaker 2: that door with its hand on the outside door knob. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a dog man. And when he saw it and it
Speaker 2: made eye contact with him, he went he threw his
Speaker 2: shoulder against the door to close it. Well, it stopped
Speaker 2: him from closing it. I don't know how it did
Speaker 2: that with his hands or whatever, but it stopped the
Speaker 2: door from closing, and they basically had a push of war. Now,
Speaker 2: you're never gonna be able to outpush a dog man.
Speaker 2: You're never gonna be able to come close to it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, imagine the trauma that he was going through.
Speaker 2: His wife was going through. She could glance and look
Speaker 2: out the crack of that door and see what was
Speaker 2: on the other side, acting like it wanted to get
Speaker 2: in again. If I wanted to get in, it could
Speaker 2: have it could have just thrown that door open, even
Speaker 2: if feels pushing on it or not. But they went
Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth. And I can't remember
Speaker 2: how that ended, if it just gave up and went
Speaker 2: away or what. But because that's been over ten years
Speaker 2: since found out about that, But I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: a perfect example how these guys will just go way
Speaker 2: out of their way to push our buttons and get
Speaker 2: a response out of us. It's horrible. It's horrible they
Speaker 2: do that, but that's their mo And if you're an eyewitness,
Speaker 2: it's vitally important you understand that it really is.
Speaker 1: Well, it definitely was intimidating. It didn't snarl, it never
Speaker 1: growled at me. I never saw its teeth, So I
Speaker 1: wanted to highlight that it didn't seem like a bloodthirsty
Speaker 1: animal to me. It just seemed like I stumbled across
Speaker 1: the wild anal and I have no doubt that it
Speaker 1: was an animal that I was looking at and I
Speaker 1: could see the wheels ticking. I could see it trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what it wanted to do in its brain,
Speaker 1: because I can ask my dog, do you want to snack?
Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll think about it. And that was the
Speaker 1: same look that was on this creature's face, Like it
Speaker 1: was look it was thinking, you could tell, like it
Speaker 1: was pondering what to do with us.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, it was just evaluating its options to push
Speaker 2: your buttons, and unfortunately it decided its best option was
Speaker 2: to cross the street and come up and jiggle your doorknob.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't surprise me, and not in the least.
Speaker 2: Talking about jiggling your doorknob. It's one thing to have
Speaker 2: an encounter when you're away from home, indeed, but yeah,
Speaker 2: your encounters when you were at home, Do them happening
Speaker 2: there at your home make it easier or harder for
Speaker 2: you to come to terms with them?
Speaker 1: Oh much harder. Because if this was some place that
Speaker 1: I was visiting and I saw this, I would just
Speaker 1: never go back to that place and I would be fine.
Speaker 1: But I live here and I just signed my lease again,
Speaker 1: so I have to be here for you know, more
Speaker 1: than a year now and through next year and It's
Speaker 1: always on my mind. Is this thing territorial? Is this
Speaker 1: part of its territory? Was it just randomly passing through?
Speaker 1: Am I going to see it again? I don't want
Speaker 1: to see it again? Are there more? Do they hunt
Speaker 1: in packs? Do they hunt by themselves? Like? Were there
Speaker 1: more out there that I just didn't see? So that's
Speaker 1: on my mind all the time, and that again affects
Speaker 1: me from leaving my house at night because I'm always
Speaker 1: afraid I'm going to see another one. I will say,
Speaker 1: I do think my apartment or someone at my apartment
Speaker 1: complex also saw this thing, though no one has approached
Speaker 1: me and told me that they did. But two days
Speaker 1: after I had this encounter, every single unit had massive
Speaker 1: floodlights installed. They started paying the yard people to cut
Speaker 1: a few feet into the field and that has been continuous,
Speaker 1: and they also spend a couple of thousand dollar to
Speaker 1: build a fence around the dumpsters. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: dumpsters that are that butt up to that field line,
Speaker 1: and so the apartment complex has taken some preventative measures
Speaker 1: that I definitely didn't tell them what I saw because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be seen as a crazy person.
Speaker 1: But I think somebody definitely saw something and took some action.
Speaker 2: It sure sounds like they did. Yeah, someone who works
Speaker 2: for the building must have Those are pretty extreme measures.
Speaker 2: Dogs obviously have to go out at night too, not
Speaker 2: just during the daytime. I'm wondering, how did he handle that?
Speaker 2: How did you handle taking her out at night time?
Speaker 2: That couldn't have been easy at all for either one
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: No, it hasn't been. It's easier for him because he
Speaker 1: didn't physically see what I saw, so he might have
Speaker 1: a picture in his mind of what that was. That
Speaker 1: he didn't see it face to face and I did,
Speaker 1: so there's a distinction there. He doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of qualms about going outside. He doesn't think this thing
Speaker 1: will be back. But he also has a different job
Speaker 1: now where he has hours that are earlier, so it's
Speaker 1: not a problem taking the dogs out because you know,
Speaker 1: we can just take him out when he gets home
Speaker 1: from work.
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't have any problems going out after the fact,
Speaker 2: But your poor dog had to be so difficult for.
Speaker 1: She does quite often wiggle out of her harness, wiggle
Speaker 1: out of her collar if she hears the noise and
Speaker 1: she's not expecting it. She just her reaction is just
Speaker 1: a bolt to the door, and she will try to
Speaker 1: jump on the door to try to get in into
Speaker 1: the apartment. So she knows where she belongs, so that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. She's not going to run into the street.
Speaker 1: She will just run straight back to the apartment. But yeah,
Speaker 1: anytime there's some noise she's not expecting, or if she's
Speaker 1: not paying attention and a person walks up, now she
Speaker 1: just runs. And she used to be the most social
Speaker 1: dog where you could just walk up to her and
Speaker 1: she would walk up to you and waggertail. And she
Speaker 1: doesn't do that anymore. She's just more fearful, poor thing.
Speaker 2: I can understand why she is, but I sure hope
Speaker 2: she moves past this and then time she's able to
Speaker 2: go back to being her happy, go lucky self and
Speaker 2: she can just live unencumbered. But of course time will
Speaker 2: tell if that's ever going to happen or not. But
Speaker 2: I can keep my fingers crossed on that, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also hope that eventually she snaps out
Speaker 1: of this, but I don't know. She might be a
Speaker 1: little scarred, and I don't blame her, because I'm probably
Speaker 1: a little scarred. By this experience myself.
Speaker 2: So oh, that's only natural. I didn't cheer this with you, mindy.
Speaker 2: But one of the things that struck me when we
Speaker 2: had that first conversation, no, I'm sorry the second conversation
Speaker 2: was I got the impression that you felt like there
Speaker 2: is something strange about how you How should I put this, Gosh,
Speaker 2: so it's not confusing, I guess the most concise way
Speaker 2: I can put it is when we had our second conversation,
Speaker 2: it struck me that it seemed like to me like
Speaker 2: you thought that how you responded to all this was strange,
Speaker 2: that this or that was kind of strange, how you
Speaker 2: were affected by having all these experiences. But I just
Speaker 2: want to make sure you understand now that nothing you've
Speaker 2: told me about how you've responded to this is unusual.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's textbook. I've spoken with thousands upon thousands
Speaker 2: of dog me and eye witnesses, and I mean you
Speaker 2: just come to expect certain things and everything that you've
Speaker 2: told me about how you responded, how this affected you.
Speaker 2: I did this, I did that, everything. It just it's
Speaker 2: just exactly what I would expect to hear. So I
Speaker 2: just want to make sure that I squash any idea
Speaker 2: that you have that any thing to do with your
Speaker 2: response to anything to do with your encounters is unusual,
Speaker 2: because none of this has been unusual.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that I probably did that was wrong
Speaker 1: that I see in hindsight is I should not have
Speaker 1: stared at it in its eyes, but I did. But
Speaker 1: I was trying to intimidate it back, I guess, so
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't attack us, or maybe it wouldn't attack us,
Speaker 1: or maybe it would be like, oh, this one's not scared,
Speaker 1: so and walk away. But you know, when dealing with
Speaker 1: any wild animal, you definitely should not look at it
Speaker 1: directly in its eyes because that could be seen as
Speaker 1: a challenge. But that's not what I was trying to do.
Speaker 1: But in hindsight, I see that was an error on
Speaker 1: my part.
Speaker 2: Well, like I told, yeah, you're put in a very
Speaker 2: difficult situation. You dealt with that situation, or both of
Speaker 2: those situations the best you knew. How I think you
Speaker 2: deserve a lot of credit for how you held it together. Now,
Speaker 2: on your end, I'm sure you probably don't see it
Speaker 2: as you holding it together, but you really did. I mean,
Speaker 2: most people would have totally fallen apart especially when the
Speaker 2: doorknob jiggled, but you held it together and you really
Speaker 2: should be commended for that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just didn't know what to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I couldn't call the police and say, hey, there's a
Speaker 1: werewolf outside, you know, because then they would haul me
Speaker 1: off to the psychiatric unit, you know. So there was
Speaker 1: nothing I really could do other than, you know, tell
Speaker 1: people who I knew would believe me what happened. Has
Speaker 1: it affected me, yes, I'm afraid to go outside at night,
Speaker 1: I have bad dreams. I have been really anxious leading
Speaker 1: up to this one year anniversary of seeing this thing,
Speaker 1: and I told you this as well. I recently found
Speaker 1: the date because I wasn't exactly sure when it was.
Speaker 1: I had to go back through my messages to my
Speaker 1: boyfriend and to find the date. And I found the
Speaker 1: date and then just had a curiosity because in my
Speaker 1: mind I had no idea what a dog man was.
Speaker 1: What I had seen in my mind was a were wolf.
Speaker 1: So I put in the date June twenty second, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, and the moon phase and it was a
Speaker 1: full moon. And then that scared me even more because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, it is a were wolf,
Speaker 1: and then later on I learned it was a dog
Speaker 1: man and that they're seen all the time, But at
Speaker 1: that moment, it was really frightening, like, oh, the legends
Speaker 1: are real, you know?
Speaker 2: Is it better knowing that it was most likely a
Speaker 2: dog man and not a were wolf. I've been public
Speaker 2: about my opinion that I don't believe were wolves are
Speaker 2: a reality. I don't think it's possible for a person
Speaker 2: to somehow magically transform from the form of a human
Speaker 2: to that of a beast like a werewolf. I just
Speaker 2: don't believe it. But I'll still be the first person
Speaker 2: to tell you I don't know everything. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say it's impossible. Anything's impossible in this crazy world.
Speaker 2: But if there were were wolves with the ability to change,
Speaker 2: to transform from a person to that of a beast
Speaker 2: like that, then of course dog men. Are you glad
Speaker 2: that it wasn't a were wolfer? Would have been better
Speaker 2: if it would have been a were wolf in your opinion?
Speaker 1: Well, in my opinion, the name were wolf is just semantics.
Speaker 1: So the best way I can describe it is if
Speaker 1: you're showing a child a picture book and you say
Speaker 1: this is a horse and there's a picture of a horse.
Speaker 1: This is a cow. There's a picture of a cow.
Speaker 1: This is a dog. There's a picture of a dog.
Speaker 1: My brain immediately went, this is a were wolf. Do
Speaker 1: I think people transform into wolves? Absolutely not. But I
Speaker 1: do think this creature is real because I've seen it
Speaker 1: with my own eyes, and I just I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought of the name dog man by myself
Speaker 1: because it doesn't look like a dog. It looks more
Speaker 1: like a wolf in the face, soh to me, that's
Speaker 1: just sem antics on were wolf versus dog man. I
Speaker 1: do personally prefer the term werewolf, not for the transformative aspect,
Speaker 1: because I don't believe in that, but just because that's
Speaker 1: what it stereotypically looks like to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all we can do is just guess when it
Speaker 2: comes to a lot of these things about what it
Speaker 2: was that you saw that night. I mean, it's entirely
Speaker 2: possible it was a were wolf. But like students are
Speaker 2: told when they're pre med learning to become doctors, if
Speaker 2: you hear a clicking of hoofs on the floor behind you,
Speaker 2: on the tile behind you, think horse, not zebra. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of wisdom to that, saying, because is
Speaker 2: it possible that it's a zebra behind you? Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is possible, But the most likely explanation is it's a horse.
Speaker 2: So that's why they're taught that, and that's why I'm
Speaker 2: saying that most likely it was a dog man and
Speaker 2: not a werewolf. But again, in this crazy world, what
Speaker 2: is impossible? I can't tell you what is. I definitely right.
Speaker 1: I mean, now that I've learned a little more about
Speaker 1: what dog men are, I mean, it definitely fits the
Speaker 1: description of a dog man. But just in that moment
Speaker 1: when I didn't know how else to phrase it, that's
Speaker 1: what it looked like. It looked like a werewolf and
Speaker 1: I had no other term. I didn't know the term
Speaker 1: dog man at that point. But it definitely was a
Speaker 1: dog man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say it was now as crazy as it
Speaker 2: might see Mandy. Some my witnesses who have had some
Speaker 2: over the top traumatic encounters with dog men, they've told
Speaker 2: me they'd give almost anything to have another encounter now
Speaker 2: under controlled circumstances, of course, but they feel like that
Speaker 2: would help them if they could have another encounter and
Speaker 2: see another dog man some day in situations where they're
Speaker 2: not at risk for being harmed. But as as far
Speaker 2: as where you're coming from, would you fit into that
Speaker 2: category where you would like to have another encounter if
Speaker 2: the dog man was at a distance and you're not
Speaker 2: at home, or would you just never want to ever
Speaker 2: have an experience like that again.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to see that again in my life.
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. I don't understand why. People, it's just
Speaker 1: my opinion, no offense to anyone who may be listening
Speaker 1: who wants to see them again. I never want to
Speaker 1: see that again in my life. And again, the one
Speaker 1: that I saw, it wasn't snarling at me, it wasn't
Speaker 1: growling at me. It was massive, and it easily could
Speaker 1: have ripped me to shreds with one swipe of its claws.
Speaker 1: And I just never want to be around that again.
Speaker 1: I never want to see that again.
Speaker 2: Well, that's understandable. Something I never did ask you about
Speaker 2: that I'm wondering is, obviously you're strongly affected by those
Speaker 2: experiences at night just about a year ago. How much
Speaker 2: was your personal life affected by all this? Did you
Speaker 2: have trouble at work? Was there other fallout as a
Speaker 2: result of those experiences?
Speaker 1: I kept it pretty well compartmentalized, so it didn't affect
Speaker 1: my work or anything like that. The worst issues were
Speaker 1: just sleep disturbances, but I have those anyway because I
Speaker 1: have a complex post traumatic stress disorder with anxiety anyway,
Speaker 1: So it didn't really affect my work at all. It
Speaker 1: didn't affect my home life at all other than me
Speaker 1: being afraid. But my boyfriend's been really great about calming
Speaker 1: me down and telling me I'm safe and making sure
Speaker 1: that I feel safe when I'm at home.
Speaker 2: Well, he sounds like a good man. I'm so glad
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 1: Thank you. He's a really great guy.
Speaker 2: Me sure sounds like it. Now. Just for clarity, when
Speaker 2: you say that you've been suffering from sleep disturbances, does
Speaker 2: that mean nightmares or nightmares and something else.
Speaker 1: Well, I get nightcarrors occasionally anyway, because of my PTSD
Speaker 1: and what I've seen and what I've been through. But
Speaker 1: right after this, I was having trouble falling asleep. I
Speaker 1: was constantly worried about what was outside. So for a
Speaker 1: few weeks after this incident, I just had difficulty falling asleep.
Speaker 1: I felt safer sleeping in the daytime versus at night,
Speaker 1: so sometimes I might stay up all night and then
Speaker 1: go to work and then take a nap, and then
Speaker 1: be up all night and then go to work and
Speaker 1: then take a nap.
Speaker 2: Ye After having experiences like the ones that you had
Speaker 2: and other eyewitnesses have had, it's just not fear that
Speaker 2: you have to go to work the next day. In
Speaker 2: a lot of cases and deal with so many things
Speaker 2: that it would be so nice if you didn't have
Speaker 2: to deal with those for quite some time. But yeah,
Speaker 2: life does go on. It's not easy, it really isn't
Speaker 2: We have those night tears? Mindy, Are they repeating night
Speaker 2: tears the same thing night after night or do they differ?
Speaker 1: They vary A lot of the times. I can't remember
Speaker 1: the actual terror, but my boyfriend might wake me up
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you were mumbling in your sleep, or
Speaker 1: you are like screaming in your sleep, and he'll wake
Speaker 1: me up, and I wouldn't know. When I wake up,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the ones that I do recall. I'll
Speaker 1: just reach for him and as long as he like
Speaker 1: takes my hand or something, I can calm back down
Speaker 1: and go back to sleep. But when the morning comes,
Speaker 1: I don't recall those dreams, but I recall the feelings
Speaker 1: I felt that the fear and the anxiety from them.
Speaker 2: Wow, it was just horrible. You have to deal with that.
Speaker 2: How long has it been since you had a night tear?
Speaker 1: The most recent one was about a month ago. My
Speaker 1: boyfriend woke me up and said that I was screaming
Speaker 1: in my sleep when he woke me up.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's intense. Have you ever thought about looking up
Speaker 2: lucid dreaming?
Speaker 1: You know, I have looked at that, but I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure if that would help me or not. I
Speaker 1: would have to do some more investigation into that to
Speaker 1: see if that would be something that would work for me. Well,
Speaker 1: something I definitely don't want to make anything worse. Sorry
Speaker 1: not to put you off, I just just don't want
Speaker 1: to make anything worse by delving into that. Either.
Speaker 2: Well, highly doubt it would make anything worse. Understand that
Speaker 2: a lot of eyewitnesses I've recommended that they try to
Speaker 2: learn how to lucid dream That's paid huge dividends if
Speaker 2: they've had a lot of trouble with nightmares or night tears.
Speaker 2: So I'd recommend that you do look into it. And
Speaker 2: it's a pretty common thing when I recommend that to
Speaker 2: an eyewitness that they tell me why I don't know
Speaker 2: where to start. Where can I learn how to lucid dream? Well, understand,
Speaker 2: there are a bunch of groups on Facebook, for example,
Speaker 2: that focus on the topic, where it'd be a piece
Speaker 2: of cake to find someone in those groups that could
Speaker 2: show you the ropes or at least send you all
Speaker 2: the resources information resources that is that you would need
Speaker 2: to learn how to do it. But if you do
Speaker 2: learn how to lucid dream, like I said, it does
Speaker 2: normally pay huge dividends. So just something to think about now.
Speaker 2: Because of this ongoing trouble that you've had with night
Speaker 2: tears and sleep interruptions, have you ever considered professional help.
Speaker 1: I have, in the past received therapy. I've graduated from
Speaker 1: therapy for my post traumatic stress disorder, so I'm not
Speaker 1: on medications or anything like that. I pretty well manage
Speaker 1: it on my own. But with anything else, so you
Speaker 1: have a chronic issue, you know, sometimes you get flare ups,
Speaker 1: sometimes things happen, and that's what these nightcers are. They're
Speaker 1: just flare ups of my condition and just these memories
Speaker 1: and feelings coming back that my brain doesn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with, and so they manifest in these really
Speaker 1: scary dreams that I have. The good thing is I
Speaker 1: don't remember them most of the time.
Speaker 2: Well I'm glad you don't remember them. But even if
Speaker 2: you don't remember those night tears, and a lot of cases,
Speaker 2: the effects from those night tears still do linger and
Speaker 2: affect your waking hours. So it's still horribly you have
Speaker 2: to deal with all that. It really is, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been dealing with it for a while,
Speaker 1: since way before the dog man encounter, So it's just
Speaker 1: something that I have adapted to and learned to live with.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it can be hard when you have a
Speaker 1: sleepless night, but you can get through it. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of things in my life that I've had
Speaker 1: to push through and you can get through it.
Speaker 2: Well. I just wish you didn't have to deal with
Speaker 2: that period. It's not like life is not hard enough.
Speaker 2: Just hate that fact you do have to deal with
Speaker 2: that at all. Is there anything about your encounters that
Speaker 2: if you could go back and have them again you
Speaker 2: wish you could do differently outside of the fact that
Speaker 2: now you know better than to make eye contact with
Speaker 2: this dog man, But is there anything else?
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, that's the only thing that I would
Speaker 1: do different differently is just not stare at it directly
Speaker 1: in the eyes, because again, I don't want to seem
Speaker 1: like I'm challenging this wild animal to you know, approach me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I wanted it to
Speaker 1: go away. I wanted, you know, to try anything to
Speaker 1: get us to live. I thought that we were going
Speaker 1: to die. I immediately thought, it's just these across the
Speaker 1: street and we're dead. So I just wanted it to
Speaker 1: go away. And that's the only thing that I would
Speaker 1: change is just not having any eye contact with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you only have one thing you wish
Speaker 2: you could go back and change, that's a really good thing.
Speaker 2: That's a lot better than a lot of eyewitnesses and say,
Speaker 2: so that's good. That really well.
Speaker 1: It definitely opened my eyes because, like I said, I
Speaker 1: was a non believer in any of the cryptids. I
Speaker 1: didn't believe in you know, the snaly Gaster or the
Speaker 1: Bigfoot or anything like that. I didn't believe in any
Speaker 1: of them. And now with this dog man that was
Speaker 1: directly in front of my face, I cannot deny that
Speaker 1: dog meen't exist. So what else might actually exist that
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's better that you don't know, because if
Speaker 2: we knew about everything that was out there. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: we knew about everything that was out there, we might
Speaker 2: not ever step foot outside of our doors ever. Again.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: That's very true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And like you said, it didn't hurt me. It didn't
Speaker 1: I said earlier, didn't growl at me, It didn't make
Speaker 1: any noise towards me, sniffed the air, turned to look
Speaker 1: at me and stared at me, and then it crouched
Speaker 1: down into the grass. So it didn't make any aggressive
Speaker 1: motions to me outwardly, And.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that. You don't need to have to
Speaker 2: deal with that, making it even more difficult to come
Speaker 2: to terms with. Before I move, I'm sorry to interrupt
Speaker 2: you there. Oh sorry, Oh no, you're fine, You are fine.
Speaker 2: Before I move on with my questions for you, I
Speaker 2: just want to let everybody in the live chat know
Speaker 2: that if you have any questions that you want me
Speaker 2: to ask Mindy here tonight, please post your questions and
Speaker 2: all caps that way I won't miss them. And after
Speaker 2: making that announcement, why there are going to be several
Speaker 2: people leaving questions without capitalizing them that I'm going to miss,
Speaker 2: but as always, I just do the best I cannot
Speaker 2: to miss them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be happy to answer any questions that anybody
Speaker 1: you know may have to the best of my ability.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when it comes to eyewitnesses come to
Speaker 2: terms with their experience, coming to terms with their experiences
Speaker 2: seeing this interaction with other people, people in the live chat,
Speaker 2: for example, reading the comments that are left in response
Speaker 2: to their shows on YouTube. That is just such a
Speaker 2: huge help when you're doing all these things to interact
Speaker 2: with a guest, with an eyewitness, when it wils down
Speaker 2: to it, there's so much more than a guest. If
Speaker 2: they come on the show. Most people will never understand
Speaker 2: the impact they have on that eyewitness how much they
Speaker 2: actually help that eyewitness. But I mean, it helps more
Speaker 2: than you're ever going to know, and I can't thank
Speaker 2: you enough for that. Wow, the question is already coming in.
Speaker 2: I guess I might as well dive into some of them.
Speaker 2: The first one is from Glenn Kamada, and Glenn wants
Speaker 2: to know did the dog men smile at you?
Speaker 1: No, it didn't. It just turned its head and looked
Speaker 1: at me. It looked down at my dog and then
Speaker 1: back up at me, and it didn't have like a
Speaker 1: readable expression on its face. It was just like a
Speaker 1: wolf looking at you with its mouth closed. It never
Speaker 1: saw its teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness it didn't smile at you, because I
Speaker 2: guess just outside of having a dog man go from
Speaker 2: all fourst to standing up on two legs, having a
Speaker 2: dog man smile at an eyewitness, that's one of the
Speaker 2: most intense things that affects eye witnesses the most in
Speaker 2: most cases as far as things generally happen when people
Speaker 2: have encounters with dog men. So yeah, thank goodness for that.
Speaker 1: That might have sent me over the edge. I was
Speaker 1: already terrified. That might have sent me over the edge.
Speaker 1: That might have killed me on the spot if it
Speaker 1: growled at me or shown its teeth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, it sends a lot of eyewitnesses over
Speaker 2: the edge. So I've got another question from Ian Ian
Speaker 2: wants to know you mentioned never wanting to see one again.
Speaker 2: What about an authentic, high quality video of one? What
Speaker 2: if one was taxidermied? Thank you for sharing, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Ian, Yes, that would be fine with me if I
Speaker 1: saw one that was taxidermaid, or if I saw one
Speaker 1: that somebody had a video clip of that wouldn't affect
Speaker 1: me so much. I just personally don't want to be
Speaker 1: face to face with one. I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: one hundred yards away from me. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see that with my own two eyes. Again, like face
Speaker 1: to face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally understandable too. I don't blame you. It
Speaker 2: looks like Andre's Carizalez wants to know when the floodlights
Speaker 2: come on at night, how much of the areas lit up?
Speaker 1: Hi andres. So these are super bright floodlights. Think about
Speaker 1: those flashlights that are led. These are LED floodlamps, and
Speaker 1: so they illuminate the whole front of the you know,
Speaker 1: the area where my dog uses the bathroom, and they
Speaker 1: also have a flood light, and I forgot to mention
Speaker 1: that earlier, so thank you for asking. They also did
Speaker 1: install a floodlight facing the dumpster. So not only is
Speaker 1: the area you know where the dog uses a bathroom
Speaker 1: lit up, but also the dumpster is lit up at
Speaker 1: night as well, so it's really bright at night. They
Speaker 1: come on at about eight pm.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness they did that. That's got to be a
Speaker 2: huge help for you. Having the whole area lit so well, Yes.
Speaker 1: If they stay away from the light, which I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that is the deterrent for them.
Speaker 2: If it is, they don't always. Yeah, I've heard it
Speaker 2: put out there quite a few times that if you
Speaker 2: never want to have a dog man come around your property,
Speaker 2: then put up bright lights and put up cameras well.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that works, but there are plenty of cases where
Speaker 2: dogmen have been reported seeing standing directly underneath flood lights
Speaker 2: bright floodlights too, So that just hammers home the fact
Speaker 2: that these guys go where they want to go and
Speaker 2: they what they want to do.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think's grateful that the Sorry, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to cut you off there. I'm grateful that the apartment
Speaker 1: has paid the yard people to mow a few feet
Speaker 1: into the field. That has been most helpful for my
Speaker 1: anxiety because I can see that it's not overgrown and
Speaker 1: I can see what's in the grass.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that is helpful. Yeah, the more you can
Speaker 2: see at night, that's got to be comforting. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to go ahead and ask my question now before
Speaker 2: i move on to the next question that the person
Speaker 2: in the listener in the live chat wanted me to ask.
Speaker 2: You have you ever thought over this year time since
Speaker 2: those experiences happened. Have you ever thought about going into
Speaker 2: the office and just in a roundabout way, trying to
Speaker 2: fish for info on why they decided to put up
Speaker 2: all those bright lights and make all those changes they
Speaker 2: mow across the road and everything else they've done.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I thought about it, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to bring attention to it. I you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want I'm still afraid that people might think I'm
Speaker 1: crazy for sharing my story, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: draw any more attention to myself. Whoever saw this encounter,
Speaker 1: It could have been someone on the third floor. I
Speaker 1: live on the first floor. It could have been someone
Speaker 1: on the third floor looking out and seeing this happen,
Speaker 1: seeing me back away and seeing this creature that reported
Speaker 1: it to the office. So no one has approached me.
Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been better for me
Speaker 1: if someone had come up to me and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I saw what you saw the other day. But I
Speaker 1: didn't go fishing, and I don't think it would be
Speaker 1: helpful for me or beneficial to go fishing with the
Speaker 1: apartment complex. But those changes happened two days after I
Speaker 1: saw what I saw.
Speaker 2: Well, your concerns are definitely warranted and understandable. But you
Speaker 2: could fish for answers in a way that wouldn't put
Speaker 2: you out there, It wouldn't leave you vulnerable to blow
Speaker 2: back like that. For example, you could always just ask, well,
Speaker 2: why did you decide to put up all these bright
Speaker 2: lights and start having the contractor move across the road
Speaker 2: when you never used to do that? And maybe someone
Speaker 2: would answer. I doubt that they would, but it couldn't hurt.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing, you know. You know, they
Speaker 1: might not tell me the truth about why they installed
Speaker 1: the floodlights, and then that doesn't give me any more
Speaker 1: answers either, because they might equally be afraid of being
Speaker 1: seen as a crazy person.
Speaker 2: You know, well, sure, and you know that's a given there.
Speaker 2: But sometimes what people don't say says more than what
Speaker 2: they do. For example, if you went in and ask,
Speaker 2: and again, there's no pressure for you to do this,
Speaker 2: you're the one who has to ultimately make that decision.
Speaker 2: But if you really did want to know, if you
Speaker 2: went in and you pop that question, why did you
Speaker 2: make these changes with all the lights and all these
Speaker 2: other things, If they start giving you the stink eye
Speaker 2: in a certain way. Then, I mean that's pretty much
Speaker 2: your answer. Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right, enough for my
Speaker 2: questions for now. The next question on deck is from
Speaker 2: Rose Smith. Hey, Rose, Rose wants to know do you
Speaker 2: know if anyone knows if dog man is male or
Speaker 2: female or maybe something else. I guess that's a general question,
Speaker 2: or Rose. People have eyewitnesses have reported seeing dog men
Speaker 2: that are clearly male, and most that are seen seem
Speaker 2: to be males. But yeah, females have definitely been seen
Speaker 2: as well where there's no doubt that they were female.
Speaker 2: So it happens, but not nearly as often as males
Speaker 2: being seen. I hope that answers your question there.
Speaker 1: And Rose, I couldn't see I couldn't see the lower
Speaker 1: half of this animal, so I'm not sure if the
Speaker 1: one was male or female that I saw.
Speaker 2: Well, you were locked onto its eyes too, which totally
Speaker 2: understandable in a situation like that. You weren't expecting to
Speaker 2: see him or it. So that's just kind of wired
Speaker 2: into our programming that you're gonna lock on its eyes
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna try and do the best you
Speaker 2: can to hold it together. So, like I said, you
Speaker 2: responded to exactly how most eyewitnesses would you really did.
Speaker 2: This next question is from Andrea's Sores, and Andrea wants
Speaker 2: to know did the dog man seem more animalistic or intelligent?
Speaker 2: Especially when using the doorknob?
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it seemed like it had definitely
Speaker 1: some sentience and intelligence. How smart I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean smart enough to know how to turn the doorknob
Speaker 1: without ripping the door off the hinges. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I could see the wheels spinning, and it was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what it wanted to do to me
Speaker 1: and my dog. I don't really know how else to
Speaker 1: describe that, but I could see it thinking definitely think
Speaker 1: they're highly intelligent.
Speaker 2: Oh, they definitely are. Yeah, that's a given there. The
Speaker 2: next question for you is from Lori Mass and Laurie
Speaker 2: wants to know, looking back, did I contact make you
Speaker 2: more afraid or actually calm you a little.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, Laurie. I think it did calm
Speaker 1: me down a little bit to stare at it, because
Speaker 1: you know, I could keep an eye on it. I
Speaker 1: could look for any sudden movements while I was, you know,
Speaker 1: looking at it. But I just backed slowly into the house.
Speaker 1: And that's the best thing that I could do. In
Speaker 1: that moment. I knew that if we ran, it could
Speaker 1: have it could have seen that as like a prey motion.
Speaker 1: It could have seen us as prey at that point,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad he didn't. The next one up on deck
Speaker 2: is from Moniqua, and she wants to know did he
Speaker 2: mind speak to you?
Speaker 1: Hi, Am Moniqua. I actually have not heard of that.
Speaker 1: But no, I didn't hear anything. It didn't even growl
Speaker 1: at me. So no, it didn't mind speak to me.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good thing. I'm glad it didn't. And
Speaker 2: Consel wants to know hand did he smell? Did he
Speaker 2: have a tail?
Speaker 1: Hi? Anne? I don't remember any smells. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: would have stuck with me had I smelled it, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I just thought it was a deer approaching.
Speaker 1: I did see a tail flicking. I didn't get a
Speaker 1: really good view of the tail. It was fluffy and long,
Speaker 1: but that's all I could really say about it. It
Speaker 1: did have a tail. It was fluffy and long, and
Speaker 1: it was flicking its tail back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that had to be quite the sight to see
Speaker 2: you never expected to see that that night. That's a given.
Speaker 2: The next one for you is from Cookies and Cream
Speaker 2: and they want to know how long after you got
Speaker 2: home did it jiggle the doorknob?
Speaker 1: Oh seconds, thirty seconds, forty five seconds. I got in
Speaker 1: the door, and I had just enough time to take
Speaker 1: my dog's leash off and hang it up dead bolt
Speaker 1: the door. I had my back against the door, and
Speaker 1: I probably took two or three breasts and deep breast
Speaker 1: and took a look at my hand that was shaking,
Speaker 1: and then from that moment I took two or three
Speaker 1: steps to the left and then the door knob jiggled,
Speaker 1: so probably about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: And when we had that first conversation, I remember you
Speaker 2: asking me, well, I don't think you saw me after
Speaker 2: I went around the corner. How could you know which
Speaker 2: unit was mine? And I told you, well, yeah that's
Speaker 2: the case. But he saw you leaning up against that
Speaker 2: post so or the corner there, so all he had
Speaker 2: to do was just sniff from there and track you
Speaker 2: right to your front door.
Speaker 1: But well, and the first thing was the first thing
Speaker 1: I saw was a side profile because it was smelling
Speaker 1: the air. So in hindsight, it probably was getting my
Speaker 1: scent and my dog sent at that time, and then
Speaker 1: it just tracked us back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would have been easy for it to do that.
Speaker 2: Andres Carisales wants to know. Was there any possible law
Speaker 2: enforcement after your encounter in your area?
Speaker 1: No, not that I'm aware of. I live in a city,
Speaker 1: but I do live close to Washington, d C. I'll
Speaker 1: say that's about forty minutes from me, close to Fort Meade,
Speaker 1: close to the NSA, so seeing law enforcement is not uncommon.
Speaker 1: But there was no additional presence that I noticed, And
Speaker 1: I think that might be your question. There was nothing
Speaker 1: out of the normal that I noticed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, like I told you, you're doing good to
Speaker 2: know your own name. So what you did notice is
Speaker 2: very impressive. I'm impressed by that. It looks like Angel
Speaker 2: Wake wants to know. Did you look out for I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: did you look for or find any tracks?
Speaker 1: I did not look for any tracks. I was terrified.
Speaker 1: I really didn't want to know anything else. It was
Speaker 1: hard enough for me to process what I had just seen.
Speaker 1: I didn't even go to look. I probably should have looked,
Speaker 1: but I didn't even go to look.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you didn't go to Luck because, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that'd be too much weight on a young back.
Speaker 2: You weren't ready to do that. I've got one more
Speaker 2: question for you. Were coming up on an hour. I
Speaker 2: need to get ready to get out of here. This
Speaker 2: last question is from Cookies and Cream and they want
Speaker 2: to know how many minutes did it take you to
Speaker 2: get home? Five minutes or more? And how long did
Speaker 2: you wait for the dog man to leave your door?
Speaker 1: Okay, well I probably should have explained that better, So
Speaker 1: thank you Cookies and Cream for the question. But when
Speaker 1: I take my dogs outside, I walked them out of
Speaker 1: the apartment and then there's around the corner there's a courtyard,
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of green space in a courtyard and
Speaker 1: it's pretty big, and so they do their business and
Speaker 1: we clean it up and throw it in the dumpster
Speaker 1: and then walk back to my apartment. So it's really
Speaker 1: right outside my door. So from the time I started
Speaker 1: walking backwards, it probably took me a minute and a
Speaker 1: half to get all the way back to my door.
Speaker 1: If that's what you're asking, well.
Speaker 2: And the answer is that, and I think that's what
Speaker 2: they wanted to know, So yeah, thanks for answering all
Speaker 2: those questions before we get out of here, Mindy, give
Speaker 2: any clothes and comments you'd like to put out there
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: You know, I've always been told that monsters aren't real
Speaker 1: and that the real monsters are humans. But these things
Speaker 1: are out there, and just keep an open to mind
Speaker 1: because you never know what you're going to see, and
Speaker 1: you might not see a dog man, you might see
Speaker 1: something else. It's just totally broken my worldview open. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I told you, I don't know what else is
Speaker 1: out there that I previously thought didn't exist, that might
Speaker 1: really exist and be out there in the world. So
Speaker 1: just keep your horizons open.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great advice. And hope you never do find
Speaker 2: out what that's what else is out there, because yeah,
Speaker 2: that wouldn't be a good thing at all. Mindy, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for coming on sharing the details of
Speaker 2: those experiences with us and for answering these questions. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, and thank you all for
Speaker 1: your questions today.
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. Thanks again so much for your time,
Speaker 2: and have a great.
Speaker 1: Night, all right you as well. Good night everybody.
Speaker 2: Thanks, we'll see ya. Well that's another one. In the
Speaker 2: books before I go. Two things don't forget. Tonight I
Speaker 2: published four new episodes of my new Dogman podcast, dog
Speaker 2: Me and Tails. Having trouble talking tonight, I apologize and
Speaker 2: also too. If you've had a Dogman encounter that you
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Speaker 2: then I'll reach out to you and we'll schedule a
Speaker 2: phone consultation so I can find out what happened and
Speaker 2: we'll just take it from there. But having said that,
Speaker 2: as always, thanks so much for listening to the show everyone,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Then, have a great night.