WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:28.879 At a book. 2 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.920 If you'd like to be able to listen to the 3 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:31.959 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 4 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.560 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 5 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:41.920 Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so 6 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:44.640 much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman 7 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:50.200 Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you being here. For years upon years, 8 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:55.239 I've told Dogman eyewitnesses that unfortunately, these guys are masters 9 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.640 at pushing our buttons. They just know exactly what to do, 10 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.000 just the right or I should say, maybe you're the 11 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.280 wrong moment to really get the maximum effect out of 12 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.400 the encounters they forced to happen with us. It really 13 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:11.879 isn't fortunate. It's not like they're frightening enough to look at. 14 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:14.599 But when you add the fact that they're so good 15 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.400 and knowing how to frighten us on top of that, 16 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:20.360 it's no wonder that these encounters are so traumatic for 17 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:24.000 so many eyewitnesses. Well, when you listen to what happened 18 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.719 to tonight's guest when she had the two encounters that 19 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:30.240 she had, it's a testament to what I've been preaching 20 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.800 for all these years. The dog man she encountered it 21 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:37.400 did what it did for maximum effect. That's all there 22 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:41.120 is to that. Well, without any more delay, let's bring 23 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:46.759 her in here now. Tonight's guest is Mindy. Mindy, Welcome 24 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:47.319 to the show. 25 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.400 Hi, thanks so much for having me. I hope that 26 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:51.479 you can hear me well. 27 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.599 Loud and clear, and thanks so much for being here. 28 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.360 Really appreciate it. Mindy. Please give us a brief bio 29 00:02:58.439 --> 00:02:59.080 on yourself. 30 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.439 Well, I'm originally from Georgia and I moved to Maryland 31 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.719 a few years ago and I live here with my 32 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.479 boyfriend and our two dogs. 33 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:11.919 Well, since one of your dogs plays a role and 34 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.520 what we're going to talk about tonight, first thing right 35 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.039 off the top, please tell us about her. 36 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.439 The dog that was with me during the encounter is 37 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:22.919 now three years old. She was two years old at 38 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:26.960 the time. She is half American bulldog and half yellow 39 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.960 Labrador Retriever. She's the type of dog that you know 40 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:33.719 when you take her outside, she always wants to point 41 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.680 at the other animals. So you can say, look at 42 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.319 the bird, and she'll point with her paw at the bird, 43 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.039 or you can say look at the squirrel, and she'll 44 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.080 go and look for the squirrel, look at the deer, 45 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.199 so she loves to do that, and that also plays 46 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:48.639 a role in our encounter. 47 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.400 That's an interesting combination there. Does she look more like 48 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.759 an American bulldog or more like a lab? 49 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.439 She looks more like a lab in the face, but 50 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.199 she does have that chest of a bulldog, if that 51 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:03.840 makes sense. 52 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:07.759 Yeah, that does sounds like a neat dog. Lucky to 53 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:12.479 have her, you really are definitely yeah, I'll bet it 54 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.879 sure sounds like it. Without giving any details, Mindy, from 55 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.439 your encounters, please tell us about how those encounters have 56 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.639 seemed to affect her well. 57 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.800 She has definitely. She used to be more outgoing. She 58 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.480 would walk up to strangers and want to be petted 59 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.920 and never had an enemy. But now every time we 60 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:38.000 go outside, if she hears a strange noise, she'll slip 61 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.000 out of her harness or slip out of her collar, 62 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.000 and she'll try to run to the door to get inside. 63 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.639 And when she saw this, she was shaking like a leaf. 64 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.360 And she was seventy three pounds at the time. 65 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.199 Poor thing. Yeah, it's no wonder she was shaken like 66 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:57.160 a leaf. That's how these guys affect almost all dogs 67 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.000 out there, even ones that are well over one hundred pounds. 68 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.639 They just have that effect on them. Won't that effect 69 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.279 on people also? And for good reason. They're awfully frightening 70 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.399 to be around and look at. Early in your life, 71 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.519 from what I understand, something happened to you that just 72 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.560 might play a role in you having these dog me 73 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.160 and encounters and these other pureanormal experiences that you've been 74 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.920 made beer. Please go into detail on that. 75 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:28.040 Well. I had some early childhood trauma at a young age. 76 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.720 I watched my sister get hit by a car and 77 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.199 become paralyzed from the neck down. And they were always 78 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.079 strangers in our house. Who were you know, the nurses. 79 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.040 She had to have twenty four hour nursing and at 80 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.600 a certain point in time, a team of the nurses 81 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.319 asked me if I wanted to play a game, and 82 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.959 they brought in a Weiji board, and so I thought 83 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.639 they were playing a game. I've had paranormal encounters because 84 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:58.920 of that since that time, and it's definitely not a game. 85 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.160 So I highly advise you to never touch one of 86 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:03.160 those things. 87 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:07.399 Yeah, that's really good advice for me. How they made 88 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.720 you participate and that was just even more over the top, 89 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.720 absolutely horrible. Please tell us more about that. 90 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.240 Well, they asked me. They came into my bedroom and said, hey, 91 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:19.759 do you want to play a game with us? Then 92 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.959 I said, okay, I think I was playing Nintendo at 93 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.680 the time. And so they said, all right, well, we're 94 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.040 going to come in and we're going to sit in 95 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:30.240 a circle, and they lit some candles and they shut 96 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.279 the bedroom door and they turn the lights off, and 97 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.959 they said, we're going to hold hands. And something you 98 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.600 have to know about this room is that there used 99 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.800 to be a door to the outside, and my dad 100 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.480 had walled that off and expanded the room and added 101 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.199 the bathroom, so I had my own bathroom and that 102 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.360 door is no longer there, but it would have been 103 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.040 right next to my bed. And so we're sitting in 104 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.120 a circle, we're holding hands, and one of the nurses says, 105 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.319 if there's anyone here with us, then move our hands. 106 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.519 And her hands started to move up and down, and 107 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.360 I kind of opened one eye and looked at one 108 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.800 of the nurses and I said, you're doing that, and 109 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:08.560 she said, no, I'm not. And then I looked at 110 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.439 the other nurse and I said, then you're doing that 111 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.639 and she said no, I'm not. And if you you know, 112 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.959 think that we're lying. Then you ask a question, and 113 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.720 I said, okay, And I looked at my bedroom door 114 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.279 and I said, if something's here with us, then knock 115 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:25.319 on the bedroom door. And there was a knock at 116 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.120 the door. But there was a knock at the door 117 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:31.839 from the garage, and it was just a continuous knocking. 118 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.120 It started off really softly, and then it knocked louder 119 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.480 and louder and louder and louder until it was literally 120 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:39.680 shaking the side of the house and it woke my 121 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:41.079 parents up from upstairs. 122 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:50.240 Wow, that is really freaky. It really is. Holy cow. Yes, 123 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:52.959 an experience like that that makes it awfully hard to 124 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:56.279 have a well adjusted life. But you have. After all 125 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.959 these things you've experienced, you're still very well adjusted, which 126 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:01.240 that's awfully impressive. 127 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:06.160 I just do the best I can, so oh all 128 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:06.759 you can do. 129 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.279 You're definitely doing it. You definitely are. I'm not sure 130 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.879 if you realize this, not mindy, but tonight is just 131 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.560 about a year, exactly a year to the day almost 132 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.560 from when you had that group of dog mean encounters, 133 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.120 because your encounter has happened on the twenty second of 134 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:25.199 June last year. 135 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.720 You said, yes, June twenty second, twenty twenty four. 136 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.200 Did you realize that I did? 137 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.039 Okay, I figured out stry to make me a little nervous. 138 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.159 So do you realize this? It's coming up on a year. 139 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.279 Don't be nervous. Yeah, that doesn't make it any more 140 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.399 likely to That're sure you can have another encounter, so 141 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.279 you should be just fine. You should now that we're 142 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:53.559 about a year into the future from those experiences. Have 143 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.480 you been dealing with all those things that come along 144 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:58.480 with having two encounters? 145 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.960 Well, like I said, I just do the best I can. 146 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.799 I don't like taking my dogs out at night by myself. 147 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:08.480 I prefer having my boyfriend with me, so there's two 148 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.320 of us. I just feel like we're less likely to 149 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.679 see something if there's more than one person outside. I 150 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:19.879 live in a really quiet community. My apartment building is 151 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:24.279 really quiet, so people aren't really up late that I've noticed, 152 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.120 at least not in my building in the building surrounding me. 153 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.879 So I'm just trying to deal with it the best 154 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.759 way that I can, which is just to pretty much 155 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:35.759 avoid being outside at night by myself. 156 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.720 Does your boyfriend know about those encounters? 157 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.919 He does. I told him immediately because he was working 158 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.840 late at night when this happened. At the time, he 159 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.559 was working at a bar and the bar was open 160 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.759 until like two thirty at three o'clock in the morning, 161 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.600 and so this happened around one thirty in the morning, 162 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.080 and I messaged him to be really careful when he 163 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:02.480 comes home because we saw something in the grassy area 164 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:04.159 and it was big. 165 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:07.919 How did he take that? Did he take that well? 166 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:12.399 Or he did He said he would be careful, and 167 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:17.399 he believes me. He believes in cryptids. I was a skeptic. 168 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.639 I never believed in cryptids. I believed in ghost because 169 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.399 of the encounters that I'd had as a child, but 170 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:29.120 I never believed in any cryptids until I was face 171 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.679 to face with this one. 172 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:37.639 And now, you know, unfortunately, y unfortunately yeah, yeah, I'd say, 173 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.320 all right, mindy, please tell us about your encounters. Now 174 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.399 give us every last detail that comes to mind. 175 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.159 Okay, Well, we have to start with the fact that 176 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.519 I was playing video games with my friends, and that'll 177 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:51.720 come into play later. I was playing Fortnite, which is 178 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.799 a very popular game, and the character that I was 179 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.799 playing ass is a white wolf character named Bulpees. So 180 00:10:57.919 --> 00:10:59.480 I'm sure you can look it up and see what 181 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.279 it looks like. It looks like the white wolf. My 182 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.759 older dog came and notified me that she had to 183 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:07.080 go potty. So I told my friends, hey, I'm going 184 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:08.360 to sit out for a little bit. I've got to 185 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:11.120 take my dog's potty. I'll be back. So I took 186 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.320 my older dog out no issues, came back in, grabbed 187 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.799 my younger dog to take her out, and across the 188 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.879 street from me, like I said, is this field. The 189 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:26.200 field is owned by the power company, so it's about 190 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.720 a football field in length I would estimate. But my 191 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.000 apartment community at the time, they didn't do any maintenance 192 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.159 on the field. They didn't mow the grass or anything 193 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:38.000 like that. They just let it grow because it wasn't 194 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:42.639 wasn't their problem. It belonged to the power company, and 195 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.799 the grass had grown to about four and a half 196 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.799 to five feet tall. But typically there's beer over there 197 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:51.440 all the time, anywhere from you know, five to sixty 198 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.759 beer at one time you would see over there. They 199 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.840 just loved it. So we were outside and I was 200 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.000 letting my dog do you were busy. I heard what 201 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.759 I thought was a stick breaking, and I thought, oh, 202 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:06.159 there's going to be a deer approaching us. So I 203 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.759 turned around and I said, Diana, look at the deer. 204 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.960 And I just stopped mid sentence because what I was 205 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.440 looking at was not a deer. I was looking at 206 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.720 seven and a half to eight foot tall. What in 207 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:25.039 my brain I could only describe as a werewolf, which 208 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:30.840 sounds insane because I didn't believe in them. But my 209 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:36.440 brain literally went, that is a werewolf. Werewolves don't exist. 210 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.960 We're going to die. And I didn't know what to do. 211 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.159 When I first saw it, it had its head to 212 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.519 the side and it was sniffing the air, and then 213 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.159 it turned its head slowly and it looked at me. 214 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.000 It looked down at my dog and then back up 215 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.399 at me, and so to describe it, it was very muscular. 216 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.759 I could see one of its arms completely. Eggs were 217 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.519 in the grass. I couldn't see its feet from what 218 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.200 I could tell, they were more on the canine side. 219 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.679 It had a tail that was twitching, its ears removing 220 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:15.159 independently of each other. It had a long nose. Like 221 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.559 I said, I could see it sniffing the air, so 222 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.279 I could see its big ears with kind of like 223 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:28.320 German shepherd ears. It had five fingers for lack of 224 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:34.600 a better term on each hand, and the pawpad was 225 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.200 similar to like a raccoon's popad. It was black and 226 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:43.919 it had three inch curved black nails on each claw. 227 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:49.039 And I just thought we were toast. I didn't know 228 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.559 what to do. I started panicking. Time started to slow 229 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.120 down like it does when you're in a life and 230 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:59.440 desk situation, and I just knew this is a predator. 231 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.440 If we run, we're going to die, so for sure, 232 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.120 no question. So I thought, what would you do if 233 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:12.480 there was a bear or a mountain lion? So I 234 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.840 puffed up my chest, and I moved my dog from 235 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:18.480 my left hand to from my right hand to my 236 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.679 left hand because I'm right handed, and I planted my 237 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.519 feet and I stared at it directly in the eyes, 238 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.519 because I thought, if this thing charges me, I'm not 239 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.840 going down without a fight. I'm at least going to 240 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.320 try to save my dog. And I just waited on 241 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.759 it to attack, and I stared it down. I gave 242 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:42.279 it the meanest look I possibly could, and then I 243 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:48.080 started slowly walking backwards. And as I started walking backwards, 244 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.159 it made this really weird motion where it kind of 245 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.960 shifted its hips to the left and then to the right, 246 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.480 and it was halfway in the grass, and then it 247 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.320 shifted tips to the left and then to the right again, 248 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.279 and then I couldn't see it at all, so I 249 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.120 didn't know if it was going to pounce on us. 250 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.600 I didn't know if it was going to walk away. 251 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.360 I couldn't see it. So I continued to walk us backwards, 252 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.480 and I just kept my eyes trained on that spot. 253 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.679 And then I got us into the house. I immediately 254 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.240 dead bolted the door. I took my dog's leash off, 255 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:23.480 I hung it up. Like I said, she was shaking 256 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:25.320 like a leaf. I was having to pull her backwards 257 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.480 when I was walking backwards. She didn't bark, she didn't 258 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.279 make a noise. She was just shaking. And as soon 259 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.879 as I dead bolted the door, I kind of put 260 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.200 my back against the door and took a deep breath, 261 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.080 and then I looked at my hand, and I was shaking, 262 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.080 and I took two to three steps away from the door, 263 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:50.159 and something jiggled the door handle. And I don't know 264 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.200 if it was just bad timing or if this thing 265 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.080 scented us and followed us, but I am leaning towards 266 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:59.960 it scented us and followed us and tried to get 267 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.440 into my apartment. And my dogs, which are very reactive 268 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:08.519 if someone walks by outside, they're barking. They were very quiet, 269 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:10.879 and they just looked at the door and then at me, 270 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.360 and back at the door, and I just took a 271 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.519 queue from them and stayed as silent as possible, and 272 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.000 I tried to slow my breathing as much as possible, 273 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.399 and I just tried to wait it out. And then 274 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.000 when my dogs started to move around and act more normal, 275 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:29.840 then I walked all the way into the living room 276 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.759 and there was a close up of my character on 277 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.480 the screen on the TV screen, and I just I 278 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.120 didn't say bye to my friends. I just disconnected the 279 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:44.240 xbox and turned it off, and I messaged my boyfriend 280 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.480 and I said, I don't know what me and Diana 281 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.039 just saw, but there's something big in the grass in 282 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.480 the field, and you need to be very careful on 283 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.679 the way home. Do not run walking into the house, 284 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.759 but you need to be very careful. And that was 285 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.600 that was our n Conner. 286 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.519 You poor thing. That's awfully traumatic. I'm wondering, though, well, 287 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.680 I'm sure it was. It's kind of hard to answer 288 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.599 this question, but how hard do you think this would 289 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.759 have been to deal with if it wouldn't have come 290 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.240 and jiggled your doorknob the way it did. 291 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.240 I mean, it definitely still would have been traumatic, but 292 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.240 that was like the icing on the cake. That was 293 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:32.279 just another level of it knows where I live, Like 294 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.359 it followed me home, It knows where I live. And 295 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:39.119 then I I am just wondering what would have happened 296 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.039 had I not dead Both to the door. I know 297 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.960 that it clearly was strong enough it could have just 298 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.759 ripped the door off, but I was afraid to look 299 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.119 out the peopole to see if it was a person 300 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.319 or not, because what if it was staring back at 301 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.160 me through the peopole, And would that have given it 302 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:58.640 incentive to tear the door off and come inside? And 303 00:17:58.680 --> 00:17:59.720 then what would have happened? 304 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.240 Yeah, well, it didn't do anything it didn't want to do, 305 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:08.440 and it did everything it did want to do. Like 306 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.599 I told you when we had that first conversation, the 307 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.200 biggest enemy when you have a dogman encounter, In almost 308 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.359 every case. It's not always this way, because sometimes dog 309 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:20.960 mean encounters do go bad, but in almost every case, 310 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.720 the biggest enemy when it comes to having a dogman 311 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.039 encounter is what your own imagination can come up with. 312 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.759 What it can come up with it your imagination makes 313 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:34.599 you believe the dog man wanted to do or might 314 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.759 still do in the future. But like I told you, 315 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.839 it did everything it wanted to do, and it didn't 316 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.359 do anything it didn't want to do. That's the good 317 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:44.000 news of it. 318 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:44.400 Now. 319 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.960 I hate the fact that it came back and or 320 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.839 it came over and jiggled at your door knob, but yeah, 321 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.599 these guys do that sort of thing all the time, 322 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:54.960 but that's just to get her more of a rise 323 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.359 out of you. I hate the fact that they love 324 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.480 to push her buttons away. They do, but that's clearly 325 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.839 why it did that, Like we talked about in that 326 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.359 first conversation, like you just acknowledged, if I wanted to 327 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.559 snatch that door out of your wall, it could have 328 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.440 done that, But it didn't do that because that's not 329 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.440 what it was out to do. It just wanted to 330 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:17.319 get a rise out of you. Like I said, now 331 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.920 to highlight how these things just love to push our buttons. 332 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.079 Perfect example. I'm not sure how many years it's been 333 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.440 since this happened, but there was a gentleman and his 334 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.759 wife who are sitting watching They're having a TV night 335 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.960 movie night, just sitting on their couch watching this movie. 336 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.720 I think it was a Saturday night or something like that, 337 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.119 and they had a bowl of popcorn and everything was 338 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.759 just great. Well, one of them heard, maybe both of 339 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.599 them heard this noise at this door that was on 340 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.599 the side of their house. So the husband, he got 341 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.400 up and walked over to investigate. Well, he grabbed the doorknob, 342 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.480 unlocked the door, grabbed the doorknob and twisted it. He 343 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.400 started to open the door to take a look out. Well, 344 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.119 guess what was standing right there on the outside of 345 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.559 that door with its hand on the outside door knob. Yeah, 346 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.079 a dog man. And when he saw it and it 347 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.519 made eye contact with him, he went he threw his 348 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.920 shoulder against the door to close it. Well, it stopped 349 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.559 him from closing it. I don't know how it did 350 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:28.400 that with his hands or whatever, but it stopped the 351 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:33.240 door from closing, and they basically had a push of war. Now, 352 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.359 you're never gonna be able to outpush a dog man. 353 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.400 You're never gonna be able to come close to it. 354 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.839 But I mean, imagine the trauma that he was going through. 355 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:45.519 His wife was going through. She could glance and look 356 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:47.480 out the crack of that door and see what was 357 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:50.519 on the other side, acting like it wanted to get 358 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:52.839 in again. If I wanted to get in, it could 359 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.559 have it could have just thrown that door open, even 360 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.319 if feels pushing on it or not. But they went 361 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:01.119 back and forth, back and forth. And I can't remember 362 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.880 how that ended, if it just gave up and went 363 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.839 away or what. But because that's been over ten years 364 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.319 since found out about that, But I mean, that's just 365 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.160 a perfect example how these guys will just go way 366 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.559 out of their way to push our buttons and get 367 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.680 a response out of us. It's horrible. It's horrible they 368 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:23.200 do that, but that's their mo And if you're an eyewitness, 369 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.960 it's vitally important you understand that it really is. 370 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:32.799 Well, it definitely was intimidating. It didn't snarl, it never 371 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:36.240 growled at me. I never saw its teeth, So I 372 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:41.559 wanted to highlight that it didn't seem like a bloodthirsty 373 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.079 animal to me. It just seemed like I stumbled across 374 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:47.039 the wild anal and I have no doubt that it 375 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.039 was an animal that I was looking at and I 376 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.079 could see the wheels ticking. I could see it trying 377 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:58.160 to figure out what it wanted to do in its brain, 378 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.079 because I can ask my dog, do you want to snack? 379 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.240 And sometimes you'll think about it. And that was the 380 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.119 same look that was on this creature's face, Like it 381 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.519 was look it was thinking, you could tell, like it 382 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:11.759 was pondering what to do with us. 383 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:16.519 Well, sure, it was just evaluating its options to push 384 00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:20.359 your buttons, and unfortunately it decided its best option was 385 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:24.039 to cross the street and come up and jiggle your doorknob. 386 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.519 But that doesn't surprise me, and not in the least. 387 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.160 Talking about jiggling your doorknob. It's one thing to have 388 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.960 an encounter when you're away from home, indeed, but yeah, 389 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:37.160 your encounters when you were at home, Do them happening 390 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.680 there at your home make it easier or harder for 391 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:41.000 you to come to terms with them? 392 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.880 Oh much harder. Because if this was some place that 393 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.640 I was visiting and I saw this, I would just 394 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:50.720 never go back to that place and I would be fine. 395 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:55.039 But I live here and I just signed my lease again, 396 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.759 so I have to be here for you know, more 397 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:03.400 than a year now and through next year and It's 398 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.039 always on my mind. Is this thing territorial? Is this 399 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.359 part of its territory? Was it just randomly passing through? 400 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:12.559 Am I going to see it again? I don't want 401 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:14.920