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done this before. You had a little think come up.
But I actually have him on the line and I
have former BYU quarterbacker. We got Riley and been both
in the line. Guys.
Speaker 3: How we doing awesome?
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be on all with you guys,
especially ahead of this game we.
Speaker 3: Got coming up this week.
Speaker 5: Love it man. Now, Hey, Starry about the emergency, little
doc emergency. But we're good.
Speaker 3: Hey, We're good. We're ready to roll.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you connecting me as well, Ronnie.
Speaker 2: Of course absolutely, But I'm gona sart of time over
you to let you guys go ahead and nextecute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so right now we're in that prep mode BYU
Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: It seems like BYU is going to.
Speaker 5: Be healthier than they have been I think for the
last three to four weeks. Are there still some question
marks around Jack Kelly shoulders hundred percent? Is a Isaiah
Glasker the same guy he was to start the season.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 5: Tommy Prass may be back, he may not be back,
but Jonathan Cabay is back right defense should be I
think in full force should be mostly healthy, the offense
mostly healthy.
Speaker 3: LJ. Mart's had a little bit of a question mark
around the shoulders.
Speaker 5: So for the most part, you could say that Bay's
running at least at like ninety five percent heading into
the biggest game possibly in the regular season, that one
of the biggest games in BAU football history.
Speaker 3: And I don't want it to be like hyperbole.
Speaker 5: We said that maybe with the Utah game leading up
to it, the biggest game in Holy War history.
Speaker 3: But Riley, are you getting that.
Speaker 5: Sense that this is one of the biggest seasons in
BAU football history, maybe the biggest because they could go
to a CFB Big twelve championship game and could be
in the running for a nineteen eighty four type of
season when given the opportunity.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not feeling that yet because of the circumstances.
Speaker 3: I personally am not.
Speaker 4: I think the fan base is maybe nationally to the
amount of attention. But like, guys, we were here last
year and went two and two in November, so like,
like this.
Speaker 3: Is somewhat familiar territory for me, So like.
Speaker 4: My hype meter is not off the charts because it
feels like we've been here right and we're good, Like
we're so our third season into this. I think, first
of all, I'm prompted because we're competing and we're at
the top of the conference way faster than I think
even the most blue goggles of BYU fans would have
would have anticipated to be, you know, in the position
that we were in last year, and then.
Speaker 3: To follow it up again this year, given all the.
Speaker 4: Preseason circumstances and everything, like, I think they far exceeded expectations.
Speaker 3: But the first lesson we cleared some of those early hurdles.
Speaker 4: I think the final hurdle that for me before I'll
really turn on the hype machine is like the conference
is one in November, the and and sometimes.
Speaker 3: It's how your schedule sh shapes out and not.
Speaker 4: You know, you look at some of the other guys
across and I think, Utah the rest of the way
has got a pretty light schedule.
Speaker 3: But you can only play the teams on your conference.
And I don't care.
Speaker 4: Whatever my deal is, if you're gonna win a conference championship,
it might not be two, it might not be three,
but you're gonna at least to have have to be
one good in this conference. It's so solid from top
to bottom that every November you're going to have to
win a huge game like the one they got coming
up this week. So well, I'm excited at the prospects
for me. Man, you got you got to go one
and oh like, you've got to take care of business
this week. Now, if they take care of business this week,
then I think the hype machine can you know, can can.
Speaker 3: Get rolling a little bit faster. But no, to me,
it's not in.
Speaker 4: Eighty four, it's not in you know, ninety six, it
is not in some of these other more historical seasons
yet because November. We still got four games to play
in November.
Speaker 5: Yeah, November can get pretty sticky, no doubt, not only
in a wate settings in front of sold out crowds,
but also at home. And we've had our fair share
of blunders in November in the modern era, even going
you know back to.
Speaker 3: My area team.
Speaker 5: So BYU is number seven in the college football Playoff poll.
Now that may not matter in the grand scheme of things,
but if BYU I mean barring anything crazy happening in
the Big Twelve, it looks like the Big twelve physicians, right,
now to have at least two teams in the college
football playoffs. It's been crazy, like the rhetoric has changed
surrounding the Big Twelve from the Committee standpoint. The national
media and even the national pundits don't respect the Big
Twelve in my opinion, but the Committee does. Riddle me
that why is that?
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, here's part of the reason why I
feel like they don't respect it. First of all, like
once Texas and Oklahoma left, there's just brand bias.
Speaker 3: But we're not gonna rehash that and talk about that.
But to me, it has more to do with the
fact that, like.
Speaker 4: You cannot have Cincinnati sitting at five and zero in
your league and Utah, who's a two lost team in
your league, and have a two loss team in your
league take an undefeat the team behind the woodshed. To me,
that speaks that, like you, you are not top to
bottom serious as a league. So you've got stuff like
that going on, like dynamics like that like this BYU
Texas techame. And what's crazy is Vegas obviously has it
as a double digit spread.
Speaker 3: It cannot be.
Speaker 4: It cannot be a double digit game if it was.
If it is a double digit game, then that hurts
the credibility of the Big Twelve. With the Big Twelve
needs is it's top players need to have heavyweight prize fights,
throwing haymakers, games that come down to the wire. And
I think as the Big Twelve continues to do that,
I think in the national media's eyes and some of
the national pundits, I think it will gain credibility. But
that's one of the biggest things to me, is like
you get your and it happened.
Speaker 3: A little bit, even if they think about the beginning of.
Speaker 4: The season when Iowa State played Kansas State in Ireland
and just that was kind of.
Speaker 3: Like a dot of a game or a letdown game.
Speaker 4: You need your best teams to play the best on
the biggest moments, and those and those big games to
be uber competitive with super super memorable plays and down
to the wire.
Speaker 5: Headings, biggest or rather, what's you're most optimistic about heading
out to Lubbock and maybe what you're most concerned about
in facing this Red Raiders team that by scoring margin,
I mean they're ravaging thirty four points in their scoring
margin in their wins.
Speaker 3: I mean that's an insane number.
Speaker 5: Their smallest margin of victory was eighteen points URSUS Houston,
a good team in the Big Twelve, and that one
loss was on the road four point loss to ASU.
Speaker 3: It came down to a final possession.
Speaker 5: So this is a good team obviously, and they've been
heralded as the best team with the Big Twelve. That
the record doesn't allow them to be that. Yu's undefeated.
But now the two best teams in the Big twelve
face each other. The thing that you're most optimistic about
and the thing that maybe is keeping up at night
leading up to the kickoff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the most optimistic is our defense's ability to keep
this offensive. They are historic, especially against good teams, historically
slow starters. You think about that Utah game and they
scored well, they scored twenty four in the second uh
is fourth quarter and a half, no, well, and it
was almost all in the fourth quarter, right, So I
think if.
Speaker 3: By's defense can continue that. Here's the other thing I
was looking up because like, what's the blueprint?
Speaker 4: Listen, here's so Texas Tech had four positions of possessions
in the first quarter of that Tech game, all three
and outs, like crazy, all three and outs.
Speaker 3: Then they got a ten play drive together that.
Speaker 4: They actually went for, but it was only ten plays
thirty eight yards right then they got to then they
got a touchdown on a short field after a turnover,
and then they got they got it rolling in the
second half. So by is gonna have to play all
four quarters. But I'm optimistic that the defense, first of all,
if you can keep them, keep them at bay, not.
Speaker 3: Get not let them get rolling and get confidence of
the offense. That's what most optimistic is. Our abilities are
our defensive ability to corral that offense, especially early on
in the game.
Speaker 4: And also with stand you know, I'm using boxing analogy,
would stand the late round flurries, right when they start
to get really active and start to just throw everything
in the kitchen sink.
Speaker 3: What I'm most worried about is this Texas Tech defense.
I think because they are both solid.
Speaker 4: Like b I use defense is incredibly solid, like their
ben don't break there. It's extremely opportunistic, but like they
don't wreak a lot of I was just looking at
some of the stats, you know, the season leaders in
the stack comparisons like Texas Tech. Not only are they
like super stout against the run and a great overall.
Speaker 3: Scoring defense, but like they got a dude on their
team that has eleven.
Speaker 4: And a half sacks, and like their sack numbers are
through the roof and their turnover numbers are tops in
the conference. So like, my most pessimistic view is that
this is going to be the best defense that we've.
Speaker 3: Played, I think by a large margin.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, Like Utah was a good defense,
U I US played some other good defenses, but we
saw what this Texas Tech team did against that Utah offense.
Speaker 3: Not that that Utah offense.
Speaker 4: Is a dynamo, right, Like our defense held them to
twenty one points. But what my most pessimistic you is
that this defense, because they are both stout and opportunistic,
could keep on.
Speaker 3: I could swelter our offense to the point that you know,
you get a your luck runs out and you give
up a defensive.
Speaker 4: Touchdown and they're so they're so stout, and you're on
the road and that stadium gets rolling, there might not
be enough possessions to overcome this really tough.
Speaker 3: Road Raiders defense.
Speaker 5: One thing that's positive is LG.
Speaker 3: Martin's back. How healthy is he is? The shoulder going
to impact him.
Speaker 5: I've been told you know, looking at the mechanism, and
I know you're dead an horthspeed surgeon, it looked like
an AC joint spring. He's ready to go, but I
wonder how much that hinders him. The offense is based.
It's core that he's still if you will, if this
offense is l J Martin, but Blau one through the
air with bear bachmer So they've shown an ability to
win without l J. But my question to you is
does the shoulder hinder lj's effectiveness? And if so, you
know you're confident that that bear can win with his arm,
with his legs through the air, with his supporting cast.
Speaker 4: So AC separations are everyone. It's not about taking hits
like elder is going to be able to run and
use his body and his shoulders and run behind his pads.
There your a c separation where when it really gets you.
Speaker 3: And by the way I've had I've had him across
all four your two a season and.
Speaker 4: Your sternal clibeculer or where you're collarboneus connects into your snum.
Speaker 3: I've popped all those to grade two and grade three,
so very familiar.
Speaker 4: It's it's really somewhat of a manageable pain because it's
not a mobile joint, and there's enough give and a
body to body collision, like enough awkward angles and things
like that.
Speaker 3: You know where there's no.
Speaker 4: Give and where the and where you lose your ability
to manage angles is getting put into the ground. So
LG's got to be really cognizant of when he's being
tackled trying to get to his back or trying to
like stay flat on his belly and not let me
because if he gets buried into the ground on that shoulder,
that's when that thing can really light up.
Speaker 3: Again and become a problem for you.
Speaker 4: So but if the offensive line, like we've seen, if
the offensive line has been able to like create holes
and he's able to get somewhat here's here's the biggest
problem as a ball carrier. If you've got defensive linemen
or those fronts. So those heavy dudes, those dudes that
outweigh you, if they're hanging on your hips and then
you're taking hits from the second level and third level guys,
that's when stuff happens.
Speaker 3: But if the old line's doing their job.
Speaker 4: And he's able to get pretty cleanly through that defensive front,
I trust his ability to manage, you know, to manage
the contact and to manage the falls to the ground.
Speaker 3: Just going against linebackers in safeties.
Speaker 4: The problem is if we allow this defensive front to
get their hands on him as.
Speaker 3: A running back, that's when all pets are off and it.
Speaker 4: Becomes really it can become really painful or punishing to
run the football.
Speaker 3: So hopefully the lie I think you talk.
Speaker 4: About Eljay's ability to with standard like the O line's
got to create some space for him at the first level,
and I got confidence that he can be very productive
and play the game, you know, at.
Speaker 3: The second third, and to have that injury not be
a problem. And then you talk about it through the air.
I don't know.
Speaker 4: I I remember, I can't remember d dude's name, but
this white boy safety that Texas Tech had, it was
all over the field. I'm going to be interested to
see because as I scout by U, I'm like, all right,
we're not letting Kingston beat us, and we're not letting
Roberts betas. So probably I'm put my best corner who's
fallen Chase everywhere, and I'm probably bracketing Parker on most plays.
So then can Carson, Ryan Beacha, can some of the
other you know, can some of the other receiving talent
get it done for you? And that's what I will know.
So you talk about compare beat it through the arm.
I don't know, man, if they got a lockdown corner
locking up your number one option and they're bracketing your
number two option, I don't think that's an exciting prospect
for any quarterback. So it'll But that said, if you know,
if they want to play straight up man like a
man free, then let's find a one on one matchup.
And I like Bear's accuracy and I like Bau's ability
to find matchups if they're just going to play straight up,
if they're going to sit back and play zone, I
love bears discipline, his way that he throes with timing,
the accuracy to be able to find completions and put
it all down the field.
Speaker 3: So I trust him Bear's ability to do it. The
one tough thing for me is just if.
Speaker 4: They can lock and I know they have what they
believe to be kind of a lockdown corner, and if
they if they follow that, if they if they locked
that meet up on Chase Roberts and have them fallen
across the field and then on key downs if they're bracketing.
Kingston to me, I like you, you're just gonna have
to do something that we haven't seen yet in order
to be successful. And whenever you're faced with that proposition
on the road in a huge game, it can be tough.
Speaker 5: No doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Riley, the.
Speaker 5: Differentiator has been, in my opinion, one of the big
differentiators for BYU in these big games. I feel like
it has been at times special teams, and as I
was looking at the analytics, I think Texas Tech is
ranked in the s P plus efficiency Special Teams make
of eightieth in the country and bas ranked six now.
Over the last three years since k pop came into
into power for that special team S unit, I've never
seen as many touchdowns from palm returns, cape returns and
then also turnovers created on punk cover kick cover. It's
a pretty monument. And then furthermore, I mean we've had
great kicking as well, like I mean flipping fields, field
position battles, great place kicking, and you know, I know
you lost some really close games due to special teams.
We tend to lean heavy on offense and defense and
neglects special teams efficiency at times and how they win
football games for you, especially in close games. Could you
elaborate on that a little bit and that impact that
it could have maybe in a close game versus sext
stick Well.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately not to bring up painful memories, but during the.
Speaker 3: During the nine game losing streak against Utah, I felt
like every both playing.
Speaker 4: In those games and then you know, finishing my career
and watching those games, I was like, all right, what
special teams like plays Utah going to have. It's either
going to completely flip.
Speaker 3: The momentum and the outlook of the game or it's
going to produce a score for them.
Speaker 4: So like that's that's the biggest example that I can do.
And then yeah, to your point, like it's nice to
know that if a drive stalls out on like this
on the twenty seven, you know, or somewhere there just
on the outside of.
Speaker 3: The red zone, that like you're still going to come
over the points.
Speaker 4: You cannot underestimate the positive momentum of being like, hey,
we had a good drive, you know bal didn't we
had a penalty, or Bal didn't bounce our way, or
just the defense made a good play on a key down,
but you can still walk away with points, which is
going against this defense. It's only giving up thirteen points
per game. Points are gonna come at a premium, and
so that is, yeah, it cannot be understated.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing.
Speaker 4: Nothing deflates a road crowd bigger than a special teams
just similarly at home, like nothing ignites a crowd like
a special team's play, a momentum swinging player, a special
team score. Nothing deflates a crowd more than a special
team score, and so it can't be understated.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean you need to win.
Speaker 4: There's three phases to football offense, defense, and special teams,
and you need to win at.
Speaker 3: Least two out of three. If you're going on the world,
you hope to win.
Speaker 4: Three out of three, but you need to win at
least two out of three to give yourself a chance.
It's nothing against the BYU defense is just it's rather
the caliber of this Texas Tech offense.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, if I'm game planning, we we must
win on defense, we must win on special teams, and
then we have to keep things neutral on offense. And
even then I think, to your point that it came
down to a final possession with Arizona State scoring with
less than a minute.
Speaker 3: Left to be Texas Tech. I still think that if you.
Speaker 4: Win defense, you win special teams, and you neutralize offense.
I think it's still going to be a type of
game that comes down to the final possession.
Speaker 5: Riley always appreciate our time together. Great inside you.
Speaker 3: Get a score prediction.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the EYU is a dog, a fairly
heavy dog.
Speaker 3: I mean, it started out it's ten and a half.
Now it's back up to ten and a half. Yeah,
so he's like ESPN, Caesars. Yeah. I mean, and.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many analysts, how many pundits. I mean,
obviously the betters. I think it's just in the betting game.
And so like you see people you know, putting down
their money. And and although it moved initially down to
nine and a half, now it's back to sen and
a half.
Speaker 3: What do you make of that? And and I know b.
Speaker 5: Yu's covered well thus far, and even the last two
games when they have been dogs, obviously they've they've covered.
Speaker 4: To me, I think that just signals that Vegas thinks
that this is the game that the bear Bachmeyer carriage
turns back into a pumpkin.
Speaker 3: I just think that they don't believe that a defense
of this.
Speaker 4: Caliber that has been so stout in doing what they've done,
and the performances and so truly you know, dominant, not
just in the conference, but on a national scale too.
I just don't think that they believe that a fresh
quarterback can lead an offensive unit against them to do that.
And then with these strong I mean this Texas Tech
you think is a pattern like go look at their
scoring patterns, and they've scored more points in the fourth
quarter than any other quarter. And so I think what
I don't think they're I don't think that ten and
a half point spread.
Speaker 3: Is indicating that this is going to be a wire
to wire, you know, comfortable win from Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: But rather, I think that what Vegas is signaling is
that when this game gets it, it's going to be
a hard fop out. But when this thing gets into
the fourth quarter, the inexperience of ba's freshman quarterback and
the flurry of offensive points scoring that Texas Tech has
demonstrated of a course of season gets this thing to
double digits.
Speaker 3: But hey, don't be fooled. Like I love Kilane the
moment more than anybody, and I'm not trying to like.
Speaker 4: What I'm a comment on him his image. But here's
one thing I know about that dude. He is fiercely competitive.
You best believe that he's his boys know that they
are double digit dogs that despote being number one in
the conference, despite being by having beat them, despite having
gone on the road in Iowa State when they were
dogs again. You best believe that everybody in that facility
down in Provo knows that they're double digit dogs, and
Klannie's and not just Kilanie but also you know, uh
Jay Hill and Aaron Roderick and all the way down through.
Those boys know.
Speaker 3: That they're being disrespected and that's going to mean something
to them.
Speaker 4: And so look, dude, you can prognosticate, and you can.
Speaker 3: Set in Vegas, can say all the things, but this
is what I.
Speaker 4: Used to tell my little league team this year because
they would get online and they'd see these other teams
that they play in the scores and this, and.
Speaker 3: That I'd be like, this is why we play the game.
Speaker 4: Like we don't sit there and go off scores or
in this case, we don't go off Vegas spreads and
just declare a winner. This is why you line up,
You line up, you buckle up your chin strap, and
you go out and play.
Speaker 3: Because on any given Saturday, anything can happen.
Speaker 4: So this started with you asking me for a score
prediction twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: That's what I can for you.
Speaker 4: Like BYU wins an absolute slug and actulute slugfest.
Speaker 3: They hold Texas Tech to their.
Speaker 4: Defensive season or to BYU's defensive season average at seventeen clients.
And I think Texas Tech's allowing thirteen points. I think
our offense manages that. And to your point, I think
there's a defensive our special team score in there. That's
the difference twenty to seventeen coups.
Speaker 3: Great breakdown, Riley. Always appreciate our time less.
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