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The 21 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:19,480 views opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their 22 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:22,879 own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,879 of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,840 companies they represent. Now, let's dive in to today's episode. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,439 I like to welcome to the show, Lisa Williams. 26 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Lisa, Oh, thank you so much. It's nice to 27 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:37,840 be here. I'm good. 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on the show. 29 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:45,159 Speaker 1: I've been I was watching a lot of your TV. 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,680 You did a lot of television back in the days 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,719 as a psychic medium in the nineties. It looks like 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,079 it's like nineties, early two thousands stuff. 33 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:57,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, early, it was early two thousand. It is two 34 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:02,599 thousand and six that I started came over here, and 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,239 it's my twenty years in America this year. 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: Really yeah, wow, Yeah, that's fantastic. 37 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was kind of thrown onto the whole TV 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,800 scene and it was just a real it was really 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,800 new for me. I'd never done anything like it. 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well. 41 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the late nineties early two thousands, there was 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,439 a lot of you know, psychic shows and James Van 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,039 Prague and John Edwards and those guys. 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,439 Speaker 2: Everybody was what Sylvia. 45 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:33,879 Speaker 1: Brown had around back in the day. All these people 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,280 had a different shows, so it was all the rage 47 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:38,520 back then. But I think that was kind of the 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,080 starting point though, of this stuff. And that's Sally point 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,240 in the sense of like making it, normalizing it and 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,879 pulling it out from the back of the corner of 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 the occult bookstore or the carnival. 52 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: You know, that's what we came from under, from out 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,240 of our tent with our crystal ball and our big 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,120 ear rings and our tied diye a velvet cloaks. 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,879 Speaker 2: Lots of velvet, lot of crush, velvet of crush. 56 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, you know it was and 57 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,840 I think, you know, for me, I grew up watching 58 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:12,439 the TV like John Edward, James Van Prug, Silvery Brown. 59 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:16,599 And when I got the opportunity to come over to America, 60 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:20,400 you know, you say, you say yes to opportunities, and 61 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,759 I came over and I was not expecting it to 62 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:30,240 be this like crazy time in my life, because truly 63 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:34,520 what happened is I think everybody just went, oh my god, 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,919 I believe it. I believe it. I believe it, And 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 now it's everywhere. So there's there's part of me that 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,080 feels really proud to actually have been part of that, 67 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,599 I guess pathway for other people to develop their own abilities, 68 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:51,000 but it was kind of a it was a little 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,960 daunting at the time. It really was. 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Girlfriend, I completely understand what you're saying, because this is 71 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:02,319 this is daunting at times doing this, So I, in 72 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:06,199 a different way understand your path for sure. So let's 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,599 go back for a second. When did you When did 74 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,240 you first realize that you had this these gifts or 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,599 these abilities. And when I say those gifts and abilities, 76 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,879 I want to really preface it to say that everybody 77 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:22,319 has these abilities, everyone has the ability to have We're 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,000 all connected. 79 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,079 Speaker 2: It's just some of us have it. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: Like just like Michael Jordan could play basketball, you and 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,000 I could play basketball. 82 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:30,399 Speaker 2: But not like Michael Jordan could. You know. 83 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, so that kind of thing. So 84 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:35,439 I just want to preface that because a lot of people, 85 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,399 you know, put people put psychic mediums, channelers, mystics up 86 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:44,920 on a pedestal, and what we try to do is say, no, look, guys, everyone. 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Can do this. 88 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: They might be ahead down the road a little bit 89 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:48,399 and they're here to guide you. 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,879 Speaker 2: Would you agree with all. 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,079 Speaker 3: That I completely agree with that. And actually what I 92 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:57,040 always say is everyone can sing. Some people, you know, 93 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,199 may not want to get out of the gym, the 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,319 shower singing. You know, that's their little comfort zone. And 95 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:06,240 some people are the karaoke singers that can go on 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,079 with a little bit of work, they can go on 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,439 and be whoever in the world. But I do feel 98 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,040 that we all have a calling, and we all have 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,079 an ability. We all have this intuitive ability. We all 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,680 have those moments where we go, huh, did that really 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,199 happen or was that a sign? Or am I really 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,759 feeling my loved one around me? And then there's some 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,279 people that want to go on and develop it. Now 104 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,839 I will say, there are some amazing individuals that have 105 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,399 not been born gifted or born into it and have 106 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:42,639 gone on to just develop it, and it's just been incredible. So, 107 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:45,879 you know, I think I first to answer your question, 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,120 I think I first realized, you know, I didn't know 109 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,279 it was a gift. I thought we all had it. 110 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:58,879 My grandmother was a psychic medium, my aunt did paranormal investigations, 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,639 so it was part of the family really, you know, 112 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:03,920 it was just kind of a normal thing that we did. 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: So it wasn't so you so your journey and I 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,839 since I've spoken to so many you know, psychics, mediums, channelers, 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,319 these and people who are born into certain families, certain communities, 116 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,439 certain religions, like I was just speaking to one that 117 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:23,279 yesterday that was a Greek Orthodox and his family completely 118 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:28,160 has He's been ousted from the family because he wanted 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,439 to go down this round. So you actually, in your 120 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:32,920 soul blueprint said, you know what, I'm good with that. 121 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Let me go into a situation where everyone's going to 122 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:36,560 be like, this is cool. 123 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: Hey you oh, you've got the gift too. 124 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: Let's walk it out as opposed to that's the devil's work, 125 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:42,600 get out well. 126 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: And that's two different paths as well. 127 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's not it's all been peaches and cream 128 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,839 all the way. But you know what I mean, you. 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,399 Speaker 3: Know, my listen, my dad was the biggest skeptic going. 130 00:06:51,519 --> 00:06:54,360 I gotta tell you, you know, he was actually my greatest 131 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:57,920 gift because he was constantly saying to me, you know, 132 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,839 I don't believe in this, I don't believe in this. 133 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,079 My mom was completely open, but I almost had to 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,079 prove myself a love on myself up to be like 135 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,639 my grandmother, because my grandmother was like apparent, you know, incredible. 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,759 But my dad. I never forget my dad actually saying 137 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,680 we had a massive argument and he basically said I'm 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,040 not coming to support you, and I was really upset 139 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,639 and then we had this big argument. Anyway, he came 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,759 and he sat there. He went to Wayne Dyer's event, 141 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:33,480 he went to you know, Brian Weiss's, and then he 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,600 sat in with me and he was like, well, you know, 143 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:38,600 there might be something to this thing, but I'm going 144 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,959 to go and see the man with that it doesn't 145 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,360 wear shoes on stage where I played golf with, which 146 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,439 was Wayne Dyer. And I was like, okay, And I 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,600 never forget. One year he came to Australia with me 148 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:55,879 and he searched every theater, you know, for hidden cameras, 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,759 for audio devices. He searched the backstage, even looked in 150 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,000 my ear before I went on stage too if I 151 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,279 had a hidden like little earpiece, and I said no. 152 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,600 And at the end of that whole show run of 153 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,720 shows we did twelve in a row, he said, you 154 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,959 know what, I've got to believe you, he said, because 155 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,680 I sat next to someone who had a reading I've 156 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,120 questioned people, is that I've got to believe you. 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,279 Speaker 1: So there's two questions there I have that I want 158 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:24,600 two follow up questions to that. 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: One. 160 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I find it fascinating as a father not to I mean, 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,240 to go so hard into not believing your daughter, like 162 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,759 I have kids. So I mean, there's a certain exec skepticism, 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,879 but at a certain point I personally, through my path, 164 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,519 I would have just like, Okay, I get this. 165 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: But that's one. 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,879 Speaker 1: Two though, the follow up question is what causes someone 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,600 to have such a skeptical point of view on something. 168 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:57,240 Is it one because they don't want to believe, they're 169 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:01,200 afraid that it's actually true, or two it really just 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 shakes their foundation of the story that they've told themselves 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,120 of how the world works. That I cannot and that's 172 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,360 it could get to an extreme where I have to 173 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:12,840 fight you about it, or like it's kind of like 174 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:15,960 my God's better than your God kind of come up right, it's. 175 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,279 Speaker 3: You know, I think I've done a lot of thinking 176 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:20,279 about this, and me and my mom have spoken about 177 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,639 it many times, and I love my dad and he 178 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,559 I think he's scared. I think there's a real depth 179 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:32,200 of his fear here. And I think at the beginning, 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,200 when I first started, it was all about saving face, 181 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:37,720 because you know, if he went to the golf club 182 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:40,840 and you know, all of his guys were there, and 183 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:42,559 he was like, but what am I going to tell 184 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,639 them at the golf club, I'm like, I speak to 185 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,559 dead people. And then he saw one of his friends 186 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,519 who was at the golf club come out of my office. 187 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,159 He's like, what was he doing here? I went the 188 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,960 same as most of my other clients, and he went no. 189 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,279 And so I think there was that element of saving face, 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,000 but it really shakes his core belief. My dad's a 191 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:06,480 big atheist, doesn't want doesn't want to believe in God, 192 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,399 doesn't believes that. You know, if there was a god, 193 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,039 why would they take children? Why would there be this political, 194 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,600 you know dispute, why would all of this be happening. 195 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: Right, we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 196 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,559 and now back to the show. 197 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: And you know, the more And it's interesting as he's 198 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:36,679 getting older, he's seventy eight, now hates his birthday and 199 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,039 realizes I think he's realizing he's getting to that older 200 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,399 age and he now has to face this potential of 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,600 you know, we're all going to pass away at some point, 202 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,039 and I think it shakes him. I think it really 203 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,000 does he My dad is so fearful of death, and 204 00:10:56,039 --> 00:11:01,879 which is ironic here because his daughter lives and swims 205 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:06,360 in death every day. And I think I find death 206 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,279 such a beautiful experience, and it's such a and it 207 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,320 sounds really bizarre, but I think it can be such 208 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,399 an incredible experience if you are blessed to be part 209 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,679 of that ritual of passing. But my dad's just being 210 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:21,679 for it, and I think that's one of the reasons 211 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,440 why he's so skeptical. 212 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's closer to the end than he is to 213 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:26,279 the beginning. 214 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:28,799 Speaker 1: Is essentially at this point in the game, you know, 215 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,960 And I think that's you know, you and I seem 216 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,559 to be a similar vintage. 217 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: So I love that we're a similar vintage. 218 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:44,399 Speaker 1: And even us, we're we're now midway, and I understand, 219 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,159 I understand why all of a sudden midway at best 220 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,679 case scenarios, you know, God knows where we're going to be, 221 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:54,799 and with technology and advancements in all medicine and all 222 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:57,360 that stuff's going to be. But but I understand the 223 00:11:57,399 --> 00:11:59,919 midlife crisis, the midlife question. 224 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:01,399 Speaker 2: I get it. 225 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:04,759 Speaker 1: I was told about the I don't have a ferrari no, 226 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,799 no pun intended. You know, I'm not chasing you know, 227 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:09,279 young women and none of that stuff. 228 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I couldn't. I couldn't. 229 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,399 Speaker 1: No, No, I have too much work to do, I 230 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:17,919 have no time. But I but I, but I understand 231 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:20,600 that idea and it starts to question. You start to 232 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,919 question a whole lot of things. And just like you, 233 00:12:23,039 --> 00:12:26,759 I swim in this scenario all the time. It's something 234 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:28,279 I think about all the time. It's it's in my 235 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,919 work on a daily basis, so for me it's also 236 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:35,759 and it's like a questioning of like I feel comfortable 237 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:36,120 with death. 238 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't like everyone. 239 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:39,759 Speaker 1: I always liked the joke because like everybody wants to 240 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:40,879 go to heaven, just not right now. 241 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,639 Speaker 2: And it's a true story, it's a very true story. 242 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,279 Speaker 1: But I but I, but I understand that. And now 243 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:51,480 that my my parents are of that age as well, 244 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,919 one is more comfortable with it, my mom than my dad. 245 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,159 My dad is very much like your father. 246 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, terrified not atheists, but. 247 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: Atheist adjacent understands like raised in Catholic and Christian ideas, 248 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:10,320 and stuff like that. 249 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: But I wonder just part of me wonders, because obviously 250 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,440 I see this every day. Part of me wonders if 251 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,279 it's the feminine just being so accepting of where they are, 252 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:25,480 and if it's the men that masculine energy of fight, fight, 253 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:29,919 you know, push, push, control. And I think it's that 254 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,960 it's interesting with the dynamic of masculine and feminine because 255 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,240 I see it. Yet my husband, who is younger than 256 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:40,000 I am, he's really comfortable with death, you know. I 257 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,519 mean he was ex military now of twenty years and 258 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,240 he's you know, so he's seen a lot around. But 259 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,840 I think it's a very interesting, especially that generation. You know, 260 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,240 I've seen so much of it in that generation where 261 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,519 there's a lot of this is how it should be, 262 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,279 this is what the Bible says, this is where you know, 263 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,679 it's it's how it was, how it was laid out 264 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:04,600 for them. It's just interesting. 265 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a story that they were told and 266 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,919 it's a story that they held on to some difficult 267 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:11,000 times because they you know. 268 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,519 Speaker 2: That generation was raised through very difficult times. 269 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Not that this is peaches and cream right now for us, 270 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,360 but we were different. We have a different experience, and 271 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,679 these younger generations coming up there are not buying any 272 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,080 of it. 273 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,519 Speaker 3: No, no, they're not. 274 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even when they are told it, they're just like, 275 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:34,799 don't know, things like it's interesting to see. 276 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I actually have a lot of my 277 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,559 staff are in that younger generation, and I have two 278 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,759 adult children now, and you know, I love the fact 279 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:46,320 that they're coming up with their own thoughts, their own minds, 280 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,039 their own ideas. And I remember actually saying to my 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,679 one of my members of staff, who has become like 282 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,360 a daughter to me. She said, I said, I just 283 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:58,960 want to apologize for a generation, you know, because we 284 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,320 have like this is how you've got to do it, 285 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,639 because that's how it was impressed upon us. But the 286 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:08,879 fact that you know, she was born into a very 287 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,639 very religious background, you know, there was a space with 288 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,120 her parents, and now she's actually trained as a psychic 289 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,320 medium and she now works for obviously me in the school. 290 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,840 It's very interesting how there's still a little rigidity in 291 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:29,840 the dynamics there. But I think that the younger generation 292 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 are born knowing there's just this, They're aware of it. 293 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:36,879 They're just so aware of the energy and how everything's 294 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 moving and changing, and if we think about it, they're 295 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,519 our future and we really do have to nurture that 296 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,240 because they're the ones that are going to be making 297 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,320 decisions for us when we are older and maybe we can't. 298 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,840 So I always try to guide them in the right 299 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:51,879 right way. 300 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: It's just Yeah, during your early years doing this, did 301 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:59,759 you ever feel before you started doing it as a 302 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,159 as a career or as part of your life purpose, 303 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,600 when you discovered that, I'm assuming the first time you 304 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:11,080 saw that person or starting getting you said, oh, yeah, 305 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,240 this is the way I'm supposed to go. 306 00:16:13,159 --> 00:16:14,399 Speaker 2: How did that actually go? 307 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:14,879 Speaker 3: Free? 308 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:16,639 Speaker 2: I mean, you weren't, but you. 309 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,879 Speaker 1: Were introduced to all of this stuff by your grandmother 310 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,159 and in aspects of your family, So it wasn't like, 311 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,639 what's happening? 312 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:26,559 Speaker 2: What did you feel? It was abud? 313 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,399 Speaker 3: No, it kind of was because my grandmother, you know, 314 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,399 my grandmother, we always had this, We had a certain 315 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,919 code that we had to knock on the door in 316 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,039 a certain way because she knew it was us. And 317 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,080 then you know, and we were not allowed to touch 318 00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:41,480 these particular cards. We weren't allowed to sit in this 319 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,679 seat because it was sacred, you know, And so it 320 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,519 was it was kind of a little bit weird really 321 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:50,080 if you think about it. Back in the eighties and nineties, 322 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:54,799 and I remember she passed away before any of this 323 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,679 really developed in me. And I remember sitting with her 324 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:02,799 and I was nineteen, and she sat me down on 325 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,599 the special seat that was sacred, and she tapped her 326 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,359 finger on the on the table and she said, I'm 327 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,079 going to read for you, but if I see my 328 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,000 own death, I'm stopping. And I was like, oh, so 329 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:20,160 that was actually my first introduction to it. And she said, 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,119 you are going to be You're going to be famous, 331 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,640 you're going to be in America, you're going to be 332 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,160 on TV, You're going to marry someone in the military 333 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,599 or in a uniform. And she said, and you are 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,279 going to continue with my work. And I went there went, 335 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:39,480 no way, I'm speaking to dead people. I don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 336 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:42,079 And so I kind of had that moment. But what 337 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,759 was interesting is I always knew looking back, I always 338 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,559 knew at school when things were going to happen, and 339 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,400 that intuitive part of it was very, you know, very 340 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:55,240 much alive in me. But when I first saw my 341 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,920 first dead person, that I that when I was older. 342 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,039 You know, I'd seen them when I was much younger, 343 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:04,079 but when I first saw it when I was older. 344 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,640 I'm sitting and i'd had a few drinks and we'd 345 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,680 been out for the night and it was a you know, 346 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,079 I had a girlfriend and we came back and she 347 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,880 said I can't drive. I said, well, you're going to 348 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,359 have to stay over. And we were in bed and 349 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,119 we were just like because I said, you know, the 350 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,279 spare room isn't you know, whatever, so you don't have 351 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:22,680 to sleep with me. So I was sitting there and 352 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,759 she said, you know you're a medium. Oh and yeah, okay, 353 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,440 and she said, no, you're a medium. I was like, okay. 354 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,240 And then I just suddenly looked over by the closet 355 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,119 and I said, there's a man standing over there, and 356 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,119 she said, tell me more, tell me more. I said, well, 357 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,759 he's like your dad. He's not your dad, but he 358 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:42,279 died of a heart attack. And I don't know what 359 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:45,119 else to say because he's just staring at me. And 360 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,799 she said, my adopted dad died of a heart attack. 361 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:54,240 And I was like oh, and I didn't know what 362 00:18:54,279 --> 00:18:58,160 else to say, and so it really shocked me at 363 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,759 that point. It shocked me. And that was the first 364 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:05,799 experience that I had. And then and then it was 365 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,759 shortly after that that I did a paid reading. What 366 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,599 was were my first paid reading that it really freaked 367 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,400 me out, and I just didn't know what I was doing. 368 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,680 It was like fumbling in the dark. I had no 369 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:23,240 idea what I was doing. But it became this thing 370 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:26,559 that I just fell into and before I knew it, 371 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:29,400 everyone was coming from miles around. I had a you know, 372 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:33,160 a waiting list of months and it was insane. So 373 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,720 I guess the gift chose me. I didn't really choose 374 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:37,440 this work. 375 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:40,519 Speaker 1: Sounds like it was almost laid out on a platter 376 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:44,039 for you totally. Yeah, you didn't have to like hustle 377 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,759 and struggle and all that. Like it was just like 378 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:48,279 here you go, now you're doing the work. 379 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly it, you know. And what was interesting 380 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960 with it is I remember my grandmother always saying to me, 381 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,519 you'll never have to advertise. She said, remember you don't advertise, 382 00:19:57,559 --> 00:19:58,839 you always do worth of mouth. 383 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 384 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,759 and now back to the show. 385 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,839 Speaker 3: And you know, I was only thinking about this recently, 386 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,440 and I was like, Yeah, you know what, Nan, We're 387 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,319 now in twenty twenty six and now it's social media 388 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,640 and everything else that is a form of interviews, everything else. 389 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,039 But She's been right. I've never had to hustle. I've 390 00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:34,839 never had to It's always been laid on this plate, 391 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,799 so to speak. And the more I've dived into my 392 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,440 soul calling, and the more I've dived into, you know, 393 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:46,599 my life choices and what I chose, the more I 394 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,920 truly realize is that obviously I chose this pathway, you know, 395 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:57,079 and it became this enlightened experience, and in so many 396 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,599 ways touching people now has just been in the best 397 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,480 part of my life, being able to help some and 398 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:08,480 be a facet of someone's healing, which I think has 399 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:10,839 been just so beautiful in a way. 400 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: What is the hardest truth you've ever had to deliver 401 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:21,440 to somebody in a reading? Oh, and then we'll follow 402 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,720 that one, which is the funniest? 403 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, the hardest truth was recently. The hardest truth 404 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:31,240 was recently. I had been working with a client of 405 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,359 mine for quite some time and I hadn't heard from her, 406 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,680 and then I got a message from her husband saying 407 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,759 that she was in ICU, and she said he said 408 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:46,200 to me and said I would love a reading. And 409 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720 I was like, oh no, no, no, no no, And 410 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:51,000 all I could all I knew is that she was 411 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,880 going to pass. As soon as you told me she 412 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,200 was in ICU, I was like, she's going to pass. 413 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:01,640 So he came. He we did a reading, and interesting enough, 414 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,680 while she was still alive, she still came through and 415 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:05,880 she was discussed. She was talking to me and she 416 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,720 was talking in a you know, I know the difference 417 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:13,319 when they're alive and when they've crossed over. And it 418 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,119 was a really hard space because I had to I 419 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,440 was never going to give him I was never going 420 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,880 to take his hope away. But I had to prepare 421 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,400 him for what was the inevitable. And that was a 422 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:33,359 really hard space. And that was really devastating. And she 423 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,799 passed two days after that. But in a way, what 424 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:44,480 was really remarkable was that he went back prepared. So 425 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:47,920 when she did have the brain hemorrhage and then they 426 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,000 took her off dialysis and she you know, there was 427 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:54,839 she only survived like five minutes after that, there was 428 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,319 a preparation in him, and you know, and it's hard 429 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,480 to think that now that was the situation. It's only 430 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,799 been a couple of weeks and I read for him 431 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:11,000 and the family just last week, and the way that 432 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,319 they were prepared, the way that they held it together, 433 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,519 was unbelievable, And I think that was one of the 434 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:21,440 hardest truths that I've had to really step into. 435 00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:21,559 Speaker 2: Before we get to the funniest. 436 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Can we just talk about the ethics of being a 437 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,319 psychic medium, which is so important because I've had horrible 438 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,680 readings when I was in my twenties, Like people were 439 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,039 like telling me things that. 440 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,839 Speaker 2: They shouldn't have. 441 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:38,559 Speaker 1: You know, you don't from what I understand, you don't go, yeah, 442 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:41,200 you're going to die on March seventh, two thousand and 443 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,039 forty six, at around twelfth twenty, right, like you that's 444 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,599 not something that supposedly you're supposed to do. 445 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:50,279 Speaker 2: So can you just talk about. 446 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: The ethics and also for people who are searching, because 447 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,839 if they're watching this, they're probably interested or thinking about 448 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,759 doing a reading with someone if it's not you, or 449 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,720 with somebody else. To kind of protect them and to 450 00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:05,559 have discernment on this is this psychic medium? Right for me, 451 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,519 because just because you have the abilities of being a 452 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:09,400 psychic medium, doesn't make you a good person. 453 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: Correct, correct? 454 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: You know? 455 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: And I'm glad that you brought this up, actually, Alex, 456 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:16,799 because I think this is one of the things that 457 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,079 I really stand for, is the ethical part of it. 458 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,559 I have had to I have I have shared many 459 00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:28,839 times that someone is going to pass, but not in 460 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,319 the way that I am saying it to you, where 461 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,480 sometimes I have said, oh, I'm being shown yet you 462 00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:38,519 know a certain color roses and I'm being told this, 463 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,160 and then looking back on hindsight, you know that's exactly 464 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,559 what happened in those roses meant death to that person. 465 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:49,519 So there has been a couple of times and instances 466 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:54,599 where that's happened. But in reality, if when it comes 467 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,319 to ethics, I'm never going I always ask do you 468 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,519 want to know everything? I'm known for that. I asked 469 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,200 it on every TV show. I ask in every reading, 470 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,039 I make sure and then what I do is throughout 471 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,799 the reading I ask for micro consent all the way. 472 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,079 So I'm constantly asking are you okay to receive this? Because, 473 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,599 as we know, with nervous systems and neuroscience, which I 474 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,759 studied a huge amount since the pandemic, I've gone into 475 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:26,400 this and I've realized that as much as people say yes, yes, yes, 476 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,000 I want to know their nervous system can't cope with it. 477 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440 I am not here, and I think one of the 478 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,079 biggest things here is I'm not here to ruin someone's life, 479 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,079 because you know this. And I've had it where my 480 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,519 husband's going off to Afghanistan and she said, if your 481 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:47,640 husband goes Throughfaghanistan, he will not come home alive. And 482 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,880 I will tell you that devastated me. You kill and 483 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,200 you know it was someone I trusted to do a 484 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,000 reading with me as well, and that was a very 485 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:03,559 hard space. So whenever we're in that place, I always 486 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,079 ask for this micro consent. I always constantly ask. I'm 487 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960 always watching for signs and their cues of their body, 488 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:16,359 not necessarily body language, but their nervous system. And I 489 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,160 will always I always feel like I'm carrying the life 490 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,799 their life in the palm of my hands, not just 491 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,880 for that hour that they're with me, but for the 492 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,200 rest of their life, because I will guarantee the betam 493 00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:34,440 that they can remember everything that a psychic has told 494 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,279 them twenty years ago. But you can't remember what you 495 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,359 have for dinner last night because it's so emotional, and 496 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640 people are going to remember it how they want to 497 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,279 remember it. So there's times in my readings I don't 498 00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:50,240 do as traditional reading where I'm like, be quiet. I 499 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,599 encourage communication because for me, we're dealing with some real 500 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,359 tragic stuff, and I've had to in my work. I've 501 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,279 actually studied trauma because of the amount of people that 502 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:07,440 I get who have massive amounts of trauma that come 503 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,400 along and I sit with them and I'm like, okay, 504 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720 we're going to have a conversation here, you know, and 505 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,960 we step in and then they're cycling and cycling. I say, 506 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359 do you want to know where this has come from? 507 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,200 So then we dive back and sometimes we go into 508 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:28,400 childhood and so we're seeing these moments, sometimes childhood wounds 509 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,559 come up. But there's always these little micro consents that 510 00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:35,119 we have to have because it's ethics. And so I 511 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,880 would say to anybody if they are listening and they're 512 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,279 thinking about going see a psychic medium, you have to 513 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:45,359 trust your own instincts. Just because you know somebody said 514 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,519 this person's amazing, it doesn't always mean that they're right 515 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,839 for you. And you that psychic medium that healo, that 516 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,920 teacher has to create a safe container for you, safe 517 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,599 container to hold your emotion, and that, to me is 518 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,759 so powerful. And so I think it's really about trusting 519 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,519 your own instinct before you actually jump in and book 520 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:11,279 an appointment with. 521 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: Somebody beautifully said beautifully, sir, Yeah, thank you, So your 522 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,759 your ability. You're saying that you saw that stepfather in 523 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:23,079 the corner. Is that just out of curiosity? Because everyone's different. 524 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,640 Some people just hear, some people see smell all the clears. 525 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:34,599 Do you just walk around seeing dead people? There? Is 526 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,480 there anybody here right now? 527 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Like, is uncle Bob here? 528 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Well? You know what's funny if you just said that 529 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,160 it's anyone here? I was like, oh, his grandfather is there. 530 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,559 But no, I don't. I don't want to because honestly, 531 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,519 I think I'll be six ft under with them at 532 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,000 that point. It would drive me absolutely crazy. But I 533 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,880 do feel a grandfather here for you. I'm just saying 534 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:02,400 hello from your granddad, but without without going it was. 535 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, he's starting, he's starting to chat you up, isn't he. 536 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: Yes, he's very chatty. 537 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,799 Speaker 2: Tell him to hold off. We'll talk later. 538 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, anyway, it's so interesting, Oh my gosh, 539 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,240 it really is a chatterbox, isn't he. It's like he's 540 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,039 the something. 541 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, so let me ask you this then. 542 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,920 All right, So now he's talking to you. This is 543 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,039 a real world experience right now, your world. So my 544 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,359 grandfather's there chatting you. You're trying to have a conversation 545 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480 with me. Can you put the clothes sign up for 546 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:36,079 a minute ago? 547 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Hey, just relax, Yes I can. Okay, you can't do that? 548 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,119 Speaker 3: Yes, and I do, and I absolutely do, and I've 549 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,160 just had to do it. But when some of them 550 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,319 sometimes they want to come in really really strong, and 551 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,599 you know, in a way, I was gearing up for this. 552 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,519 I was kind of aware that someone may come in 553 00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,839 and I'm open to it at this point. But in 554 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,039 everyday experiences, you know, when I'm driving, when I'm in yoga, 555 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,000 when I'm going to the store, I don't want to 556 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,559 speak to them. You know, I want to live my life. Yeah, 557 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,839 And honestly that's what I do. You know, you can 558 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,799 switch it on, you can switch it off. 559 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: I apologize for my grandfather. 560 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: He's very proud of you, by the way, and he's 561 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,440 really glad that you followed the dream. I was like Okay, fine, 562 00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:30,079 that's amazing. 563 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 564 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:40,039 and now back to the show. 565 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you. 566 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,359 Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking a lot about the smaller 567 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880 aspect of like that's a smaller but the micro aspect 568 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,720 of it. But let's get into the macro because there's 569 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,519 a lot of stuff going on in the world. When 570 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,319 you tune into humanity right now, what is the feeling 571 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:00,400 that is coming because there is a lot of fear 572 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,920 out there. 573 00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of fear. And I'm really glad 574 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,480 that you asked that question because when I tap into humanity, 575 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,880 and it's actually a conversation I've had many times, is 576 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:16,839 that we're in a massive shift. We're in a complete shift, 577 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,920 and it's been happening for the last several years. And 578 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,799 as I'm talking about it, I literally have full body 579 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,559 chills right now. And I do feel that old Paradigm's 580 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,599 old constructs are leaving. It's like this, there is a 581 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:38,039 dissolution of a regime that is dissolving before our eyes, 582 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,640 and that we are having an infiltration of energy, of 583 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,319 new energy, whether you want to call it a new age, 584 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,240 whatever you want to call it, but new energy influxing 585 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,880 in and the advances of science that is happening right now. 586 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,160 And this has actually been channeled to me right now. 587 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,160 But the advances of science that is happening, you bring 588 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,640 that in with the old laws of spirituality. We're getting 589 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,839 a new wave in the world. We're getting a new wave, 590 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,319 and we're actually starting to see how humanity should be working. 591 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,039 But all of this fighting and all of this destruction 592 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,680 is actually paving the way for the new world to 593 00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,359 actually be upon us. 594 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,559 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense because you have to 595 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,839 kind of well, I mean, like any like a forest fire. Yeah, 596 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,119 fire has to happen in order. I think it's in 597 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680 the I think it's pine trees. I'm not sure if 598 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,279 it's pine trees or there is a tree that their 599 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:44,000 seeds do not get released until they are burned, and 600 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,599 they are so when there is a forest fire, all 601 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,839 those seeds go into the ashes and all the new 602 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,759 ones come up. 603 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: So it is part of nature. 604 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,039 Speaker 1: I mean, if you see sometimes things get overgrown, there's 605 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,000 too many trees or too many things fighting for two 606 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,400 many resources in a specific set of land. Nature comes 607 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,039 in and goes no, no, no, there's a we're out 608 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:10,079 of balance here. We have to clear out some stuff naturally, 609 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,599 and yes, it's because there is an equal balance in nature, 610 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,319 even with you know, predators and prey and all of 611 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:22,000 that stuff. But when the balance gets shifted, and a 612 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,039 lot of times that balance get shifted by us, you know, 613 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,319 I mean you you're in Florida. I come from Florida. 614 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,839 When I was growing up, there were no anacondas in 615 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,720 the ever Glades, and now there are ana conda's in 616 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,680 the Everglades, and now they have become the apex predator 617 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,200 and the alligator is suffering because he doesn't know because 618 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200 he's not supposed to be there. So they're out of balance. 619 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,519 So I use that as an example of the how 620 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,599 we're as humanity. The world is so out of balance, 621 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,559 so we have So do you do you agree that 622 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,920 a lot of the insanity, and it is insanity that 623 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:03,640 is happening right now, it's not only needed, but it 624 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,720 has to happen in order for the new to come along, 625 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,320 because you kind of need these bulls. And there are 626 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,000 many bulls in China, shops. 627 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,079 Speaker 3: All around the world, all around the world. 628 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,519 Speaker 1: Breaking things left and right. So they're breaking things that 629 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920 we would rather not have broken and other things that 630 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,320 absolutely need to be broken. But it's kind of like 631 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,719 a there's no scalpels here, It's all sledge. 632 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 3: Here, right, you know. It's a great way of putting it. 633 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,760 And in all fairness, I think if we if we 634 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,920 understand the mind, and I think we have to understand 635 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,360 the mind right now. The mind is our realm of safety. 636 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480 We our mind is geared to keep us safe. And 637 00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:47,239 so whatever has culturally kept us safe, you've had You've 638 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,880 had a life, I've had a life, people and everyone's 639 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,400 had a different life. We have cultural differences, and so 640 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,760 our cultural differences have formulated what we perceive to be 641 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,119 safe or unsafe, and our lived experiences perceive us to 642 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:06,760 be safe or unsafe. So our brain has a reference point. 643 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960 So anything outside of that that is going on that 644 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,639 we are not comfortable with or that we sometimes are 645 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:17,599 struggling with, our brain's going to go and have this 646 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,199 freak out. But reality, when we connect into the soul 647 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,199 and we actually take the brain away from us and 648 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,280 we are in that soul space and we look at 649 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,000 it almost from a bird's eye view of what is 650 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,199 actually happening in humanity, we can see that this actually 651 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,519 needs to happen. This needs to happen to find some 652 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:44,519 form of semblance, to find some form of balance, because 653 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:48,880 there is such an imbalance right now. And I always 654 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,880 say to people, whenever you've got that happening, and your 655 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,960 mind is racing and you're questioning the what, where, why, when, how, who, 656 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,800 and your soul is really struggling to actually understand what's 657 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480 going on, I ask you people to take a breath 658 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,519 and create space between the two, because that breath will 659 00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,639 allow you to calm and in that breath you can 660 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000 find some form of understanding, in some form of balance. 661 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000 But it is scary out there, and I do think 662 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:23,280 that we need this shakeup for us to find that 663 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,239 balance back in the world. 664 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: Now when you're seeing all of these conflicts happening around 665 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,119 the world right now obviously as we as of this 666 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,760 conversation in the US is at war with Iran, and 667 00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:38,239 you know Russia still in the Ukraine, and you know 668 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,280 the Palestindians, and there's just so many different conflicts going 669 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,880 on in the world. Some are pretty pretty terrifying. Yeah, 670 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,920 specifically the US and Iran right now, because it's not 671 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,920 just a local Hey, I need more land, yeah kind 672 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,280 of scenario. This is like, this has much bigger implications. 673 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,599 Speaker 2: What do you see in that? 674 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: What do you see in the next five years, ten 675 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,079 years in regards to these Iran specifically the Iran and 676 00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,960 God knows what other conflict that might arise any day 677 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,599 now somewhere else. 678 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,199 Speaker 3: I know, I know. I Oh, so that's a loaded question. 679 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,599 I think when I look at what is going to happen, 680 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,440 I think there's a lot more termal that we're going 681 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,480 to experience. I think, what's I truly believe that we've 682 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,480 all chosen to be born this time because our souls 683 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,480 are ready for this conflict. And I do think there's 684 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,960 going to be a lot more choices in let's talk 685 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,079 America right now, because this is where we both live. 686 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,360 But if we talk about America, I do feel that 687 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,239 Americans will have to have a lot more choices. And 688 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,639 I do feel that I keep feeling for the next 689 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,039 three years there's going to be some form of conflict. 690 00:37:57,679 --> 00:37:59,760 So for the next three years is going to be 691 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,239 some form of conflict. And I keep wanting to go 692 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,039 to twenty twenty eight, maybe beginning of twenty twenty nine, 693 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,199 and I do feel that there's going to be a 694 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,039 lot more decisions that the American people will have, but 695 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,920 they have to start stepping up, and there has to 696 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,280 be a lot more. It's going to create us a 697 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,239 lot more gathering of people coming together and speaking up. 698 00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,360 That's what's going to help us. But I do think 699 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,039 there's going to be a lot of And for some reason, 700 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:31,000 I just kept seeing different countries also being involved as well. 701 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: In these in these in this turmoil, yeah, in this turmoil. 702 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,599 Speaker 1: Against us or with us, with us, with us, with 703 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,280 going into. 704 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: It, going into it. 705 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't particularly this is my gut feeling. 706 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:48,760 I mean, but you're the professional. 707 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,559 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't. 708 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: Believe there'll be another world World War in this in 709 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,119 the scope or the scope or the way we know 710 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,239 of it like we're doing. I don't think there's going 711 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,519 to be anything like that because we're just that our 712 00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:08,800 technology now has become so powerful and that we can 713 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,760 wipe ourselves out. 714 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, very easily, very very easily. 715 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:15,679 Speaker 1: So I don't believe there is that, But I do 716 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,880 agree with you there's going to be there's Listen, there's 717 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,800 some players on the sidelines right now who have not 718 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,360 decided to come in yet yet. 719 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: So, and that's who I think will come in. I 720 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,400 agree with you. I don't think there's going to be 721 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,000 a world war as we've known it. I think there's 722 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,679 going to be definitely a technology space that will be 723 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,760 battling as well. I don't know, you know, which is 724 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,159 already happening. But I do feel that we're actually going 725 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,519 to be okay. But I do feel that it's actually 726 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880 I feel like we almost have to perceive it from 727 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,280 that bird's eye view and look at it for what 728 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,159 it is. It's almost like we're clearing out the debris 729 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,800 and we're being able to then move forward. But it's 730 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,000 very sad. It's really sad that it's happened to come 731 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,400 to it. 732 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 733 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:16,159 and now back to the show. Well, it's kind of 734 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,079 like when you see and I have to imagine, this 735 00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:21,800 is what it's like for the other side to watch us, 736 00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,559 our loved ones on the other side, our spirit guides. 737 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: Our angels. 738 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,039 Speaker 1: It's kind of I mean, I joke that we're the 739 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,039 greatest reality show in the world, where like the Real 740 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:40,960 Housewives of Earth, but just like a parent when you 741 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,119 see a child about to make a mistake in their life. 742 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,599 Sometimes you have to let them make it because that's 743 00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,280 the way they learn. And I guess that's in a 744 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,199 much much larger scale, that's kind of what we're going 745 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,440 through right now as a species and as a consciousness. 746 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree. And I think what's also happening 747 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,480 is if we look at consciousness, if we look at 748 00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:07,280 the way that spirituality is, what's happening is there's a 749 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,639 lot more people that are becoming more and more spiritual. 750 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,119 There's a lot more awakenings that are happening with the 751 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:18,079 certainly with the openings of plant medicine psilocybin iahuasca. You know, 752 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,079 people are becoming a little bit more aware, people are 753 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,880 ready to do the healing. People are stepping into somatic practices, 754 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,000 they're stepping into energy spaces. They're starting to understand where 755 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,519 energy works and how energy works, and we're starting to 756 00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:36,960 understand consciousness. If we look at what's just happened in 757 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,280 the last you know, in September, when Dan Brown opened 758 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960 the book of you know, the book the Secret of Secrets, 759 00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,360 I mean, that's all about consciousness. And if we can 760 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,079 look at this as a whole, we are becoming more 761 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:54,719 and more aware of this consciousness space. And I feel 762 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440 that there is a segue here where there's some people 763 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,199 that are very very logical that are staying in that 764 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,800 logical space, that are staying in that place, and that 765 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,199 is where there's a lot of discord and fighting. But 766 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,639 then you also have on the other side, you've got 767 00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:11,519 a lot of people who are coming from that logical 768 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,199 place over into this more esoteric space, which is more 769 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,920 consciousness and aware and energy where they are seeing that 770 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,639 there is more that that isn't serving us, and so 771 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:30,119 they're stepping in here and they are becoming more connected. 772 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,880 And I think that's a really beautiful part of it. 773 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,639 And I think science is now proving that there is 774 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:43,880 a part where we sit that science is it's proving 775 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,159 what we're doing, you know, And I think this is beautiful. 776 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,800 So I feel like there is this there's a real 777 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,519 shift in the universe and the world right now in 778 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,320 all of this, And I feel honored to be part 779 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,320 of all of this whole process because it's a massive, 780 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,880 massive time in society. 781 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:03,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting. 782 00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: We have a film called First Contact with Darryl Banka Bashar. 783 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,079 I don't know if you're not familiar with him on our 784 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,400 platform and in that movie and on our next level 785 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,800 SOO TV. And in that movie, they actually he went 786 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,400 into a science in a into a with a scientist. 787 00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:20,519 They plugged his head up with neurons and they actually 788 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,400 saw what his brain did when he channeled, and it 789 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,119 there was stuff that they couldn't understand what was going on, 790 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,679 like this shouldn't be happening. 791 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: So there is something happening. 792 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: And now science is starting to, like to prove your point, 793 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,039 science are starting to. 794 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Catch up to it. 795 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: And the same I've seen things like that with psychic 796 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,960 mediums as well. They they trapped them in and they go, 797 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:43,400 oh wait a minute. When they're they're talking to Uncle Bob, 798 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,320 their brain waves shift in a way that you shouldn't 799 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,000 be able to control. 800 00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: Right, Well, if you also look at this, if you 801 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,719 also look at the semantic mapping of a brain. Our 802 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,159 brain lights up in certain areas when we're talking, but 803 00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,920 when you're actually in a we're working in a reading, 804 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,360 you're getting pieces of information and just drop in of information. 805 00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,280 So all of a sudden, you know, I might hear top, 806 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,760 and my brain is actually looking for a top of 807 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,079 a mountain, top of a car, top of this, top 808 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,719 of that. So my brain is lighting up like a 809 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,159 Christmas tree, and that's actually what's happening. And obviously the 810 00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,440 brain waves the way that we're getting into this place. 811 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,599 And it's so true, and I will say what happens 812 00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,599 with psychics and mediums. We hit this scalar energy, this 813 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,199 quantum energy, this universal energy. And when we're in that 814 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,199 scalear energy, we're just channeling. We're just a focus, We're 815 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,079 a force. Because I've done it where I can be 816 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,960 so sick before a client, before a reading, before going 817 00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,880 on stage, and I'm on stage and in the client 818 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,840 and i am absolutely fine. And that is where I'm 819 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,920 absolutely tapped into the scalar energy. I'm tapped into universal energy, 820 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,480 chi prana, whatever you want to call it. And that 821 00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,480 is what is now being picked up because we have 822 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:12,519 the technology to show it. And it's just magnificent. 823 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 824 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 825 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,599 Speaker 1: Now, what is what role will truth play in global 826 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,760 leadership over the next decade or so, because there has 827 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,000 to be a shift around the world. 828 00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:32,079 Speaker 3: I agree with that, and you know, that's such a 829 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,639 big question, and part of me wants to believe that 830 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,440 we are going to be shifting into transparency and truth. Now. 831 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,960 As much as our governments and society are talking about, oh, 832 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:51,280 we're transparent, we're transparent, well they're limited transparency because they're 833 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,039 obviously just it's going to work for them. But I 834 00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:58,800 do feel yeah, of course, but I feel like there's 835 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,199 a massive shift in the way that our leadership needs 836 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,440 to be in truth. And I will say this, when 837 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,760 Mary Ann Williamson was doing her campaign for presidency, you know, 838 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,559 I mean, what an amazing gift that would have been 839 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,639 had you know that that would have been obviously this 840 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,559 woman who is also very very connected into the universal energy. 841 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,480 But I don't feel as though society was ready and 842 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,000 society you know that, I don't feel as though that 843 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,119 was a place. But what's interesting is I feel like 844 00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:38,039 it has to shift into this united front of truth. 845 00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,440 And I do feel our leadership has to find we 846 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,440 have to be putting people in place that resonate for 847 00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:48,800 our truth because you know, we look at it with 848 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,400 the gurus out there, people who have been you know, 849 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,039 been followed and been like just followed in just such 850 00:46:56,039 --> 00:47:00,760 an adorned, worshiped worshiped, and they have let us down. 851 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:05,440 You know, they've been taking the truth, but they you know, 852 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,280 there's always another side to it. So I would like 853 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,199 to think that there's going to be truth. But truth 854 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,039 is really abstract. Well, I believe it's true, may not 855 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,199 be right for everybody else, and so I think it's 856 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,440 a really abstract space. But I would like to think 857 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,280 that there would be more transparency. 858 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,639 Speaker 2: And I agree with you. 859 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: You said, like your truth might be different than somebody 860 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,800 else's truth, but true truth, like truth, universal truth. Yes, 861 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,719 it's gravity true. You know that you could argue all 862 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,719 you want. You know, I don't believe in gravity. Well, 863 00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:42,599 there's certain things that are universally true. And I understand 864 00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,599 what you mean though, Like your perception of a story 865 00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,880 that you've created for yourself, Yeah, that makes sense to you. 866 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,199 Might be different than me, and that's fine, and that's 867 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,719 the way we're all. 868 00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: Trying to figure this crazy game out. 869 00:47:56,519 --> 00:48:03,039 Speaker 1: It's insane, insane. This is an insane roller coaster. So 870 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:06,599 from your point of view, speaking to spirit, I mean, 871 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:12,199 this is like the ultimate ride, the ultimate school for 872 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,079 a soul to go through. And from what I've from 873 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,440 what i've seen, but what I've heard, it's a giant 874 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,679 celebration when someone passes because they're just like, oh man, 875 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,480 did you Man? You are so brave. Wow, you went 876 00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,159 down there. Not brave, but you know what I mean, 877 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:29,840 but like that, I can't believe you did this. 878 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,559 Speaker 2: Like this is not easy. 879 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,639 Speaker 1: This is very difficult to be down here, and like 880 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,800 you chose to come down in the late nineties and 881 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,559 early two thousands and to see the birth of the 882 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:43,000 Internet and the birth of AI and all of the 883 00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:44,920 other stuff and the shift of consciousness. 884 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: My god, it's it's that. Is that what you see 885 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,079 on the other side as well? Are here? 886 00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 887 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,559 Speaker 3: You know it's funny because I always and I'm writing 888 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,159 a book on this, is that we're we all have 889 00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,719 a sole purpose and our sole purpose whatever that soul 890 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,519 per is that sole lesson. We've all come to learn 891 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:06,840 one core lesson. There's a sub lesson underneath, and we 892 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,079 were learning it in such a powerful way. And then 893 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,159 there's when we pass over. And I wrote a book 894 00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,239 on this called Survival of the Soul. When we pass over, 895 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,679 there is it's like this cheerleading squad like, yeah, you 896 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,800 made it, you did it, and here's your lesson that 897 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,239 you had to learn. And it's so interesting because you know, 898 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,880 we were looking at when they're in spirit and they 899 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,480 look at us, it's almost like they're looking and going, ha, 900 00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:38,840 you know, because we are really having these big emotional experiences. 901 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,199 This is a place that you learn so much emotion, 902 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,239 you carry so much emotion, and you have to navigate life. 903 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:53,320 It's like you're coming in blinded, blinkered, and you don't 904 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,880 have to be blinked. I always say, always trust your 905 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,400 instinct because that's going to take the blinders off and 906 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,800 it will give you some understanding of where things are 907 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,320 going to go. But I do I feel like the 908 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,719 spirits are actually going to say, yeah, you made it. 909 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,599 You made it on this roller coaster of life, and 910 00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:10,480 you can stay here for a minute and then you're 911 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,880 going to do it again. Then we're gonna throw you back. 912 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 2: And that's just this life. 913 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: Let's not talk about parallel lives or parents in future lives. 914 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,079 Speaker 2: Let's never go down that road. 915 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it's interesting when we look at it, 916 00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,079 you know, when we look at the big grand scale 917 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,920 of it, how we are living all of this simultaneously. 918 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor 919 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:47,519 and now back to the show. It's infanta fatile like, 920 00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:51,599 but you know, it's you can't even comprehend the complexity. 921 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,559 We can't comprehend the complexity of our body. No, you know, 922 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,880 it's still it's still the most perfect machine ever created 923 00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,719 or designed on this play in it period. Yeah, but 924 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,519 and yet we're barely scratching the surface of understanding why 925 00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,519 certain things happen and why other things don't. Right, And 926 00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:13,039 that's just our that's just our body and nature and 927 00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:15,519 nature and to see and let's not even talk about 928 00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:18,320 the universe and what we're discovering about the universe and 929 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,280 seeing away and all that kind of stuff. 930 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 3: It is. 931 00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: It's so man, if this is a computer game and 932 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,440 we're just we're just avatars for some alien species playing 933 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,280 a video game. My got the computing. 934 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,679 Speaker 3: Power, Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know, I've got a friend 935 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,079 of mine who she loves gaming, and she'll sit there 936 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,920 and she'll she'll sometimes say that her gaming is like 937 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,519 life and she loves all of this stuff, and she's like, 938 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,719 I can't wait to die and see what it's what 939 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,079 really life is like. And I'm like, that's not really 940 00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:55,519 a way of doing it. She said, I'm not going 941 00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:59,159 to go yet, but I'm just curious, and so I do. 942 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,000 I think that, and now you so right. It's it's 943 00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:04,239 so bizarre. 944 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: It's a bizarre video game. We're just Mario. We're just 945 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,519 Luigi and Mario trying to save a princess at the 946 00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:13,840 end of the day, and we just have different avenues 947 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:19,280 to go down the same. So if we may, if 948 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,360 we may look into that crystal ball one more time 949 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:27,480 and talk about and talk about the economy and the 950 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,840 economic stability of the world, because that is also on 951 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,320 a lot of people's minds, and a lot of people 952 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,360 are afraid and things are shaking, Things are becoming much 953 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360 more expensive, you know here in the States obviously, but 954 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,840 around the world because of geopolitical issues, and also a 955 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,880 lot of decisions that were made twenty years ago that 956 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,880 were starting to sense like something's coming, something's coming something. 957 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,679 We're way overdue in general for an economic downturn, a 958 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,760 major economic downtown, and I feel that it's been on 959 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,280 a on a just as technical aspect, it's been propped 960 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,840 up for a long time. And I'm not talking about 961 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,320 conspiracy theories. This is just economic truth, and you can 962 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,000 just look it up. Yes, So where do you see 963 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:18,599 us economically? And then furthermore, let's talk about money afterwards, 964 00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,159 because I just want to hear your ideas of where 965 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,440 money is going, because that's a whole other. Like everything 966 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,960 else in the world, everything else is in flux. Why 967 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,880 not that right? 968 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,679 Speaker 3: And you know, I see it. And what I've also 969 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,960 seen is that money. Money is around. There's money around, 970 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,760 and it's how there's always money around, and it's how 971 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,679 we are magnetizing that money to us or what we're 972 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,960 doing to not necessarily earn money, but to gain money. 973 00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:52,840 But I do feel if we talk about economics, I 974 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,360 do feel that there's going to be a damn shift. 975 00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,679 I got to I just do. I feel as though 976 00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:02,239 there's going to be a real, all real struggle and 977 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,159 a down shift of the economic space. And I feel 978 00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:08,679 like it's gonna you know, as I look at it, 979 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,280 I don't want to think that we would go back 980 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,559 to two thousand and eight, but there is this feeling 981 00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:16,320 of that things are gonna crumble again and things are 982 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,360 gonna shift. And I've often said to a friend of mine, 983 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,800 I'm like, you know, I think you need to put 984 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,079 your money somewhere, you know, be aware, spread the money 985 00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:28,480 in different places, because I just keep seeing this. It's 986 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,400 like this tightness and I just keep seeing the bottom 987 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,119 falling away. But what's on the other side of it 988 00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:38,960 is I feel again we are getting rid of old constructs, 989 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,880 old paradigm's, old understandings, and there's a new shift and 990 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,039 a new wave that is going to lead us, which 991 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,719 I think might be where you are taking me into 992 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,360 about money, because I do feel that there's almost this 993 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,480 new area. And that's what I'm seeing right now, is 994 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,840 there's this new area of money. It's almost like a 995 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,519 new playing field when I talk about money. But I 996 00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,039 do feel the economy is going to struggle, and I 997 00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,840 feel as there's almost there's going to be a real 998 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,480 segue between the wealthy and those who are not so wealthy, 999 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,239 and that's where it's going to struggle. And I've seen 1000 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,000 it for quite some time, and I hate saying that. 1001 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:19,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's going to be what it is. 1002 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 1003 00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 1004 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,199 Speaker 1: But it doesn't And we're not saying when you're saying 1005 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,920 these things, it's not to create fear. It's just to look. 1006 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 2: You and I both lived in Florida. 1007 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: You live in Florida. I lived in Florida. We all 1008 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,400 saw a hurricane coming. Yeah, you've been there what a 1009 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,800 bunch of years, right, So you've probably experienced either the 1010 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,599 threat of a hurricane or actually gone through it. I 1011 00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:48,880 went through like, I went through three direct hits or 1012 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,440 close to direct hits in my time in Florida. The 1013 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,360 worst thing about a hurricane, in my opinion, is knowing 1014 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,840 that it's coming eight ten days down? Right? 1015 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:01,639 Speaker 2: Is it coming? Is it not coming? Is it coming? 1016 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,159 Speaker 1: Do we got to go to Publix to go buy 1017 00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:07,360 all the water like and all the that and the like. 1018 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,079 Speaker 2: Should we put the shutters up? Should we not? 1019 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: That's the worst part of it for me at least. 1020 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,280 It's horrible. And I've gone through I'd lost roofs. I mean, 1021 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,760 I've had you know, FEMA come. I've gone through some 1022 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,800 stuff with hurricanes and it's very difficult. Similar with this conversation, 1023 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,199 the things that you're saying, I'm like, look, this is 1024 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,119 going to happen. 1025 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 2: It is period. 1026 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: Now there is there is abilities and correct me if 1027 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,719 I'm wrong. Shifting timelines or consciousness depending on how we 1028 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,239 choose as a as a consciousness can't shift certain things 1029 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,119 to certain ways here and there. Right, Yeah, Because I 1030 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,280 heard for a long time we've there was two roads. 1031 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,920 We could either go down the self destructive timeline and 1032 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,840 completely just end it for humanity, or we've chosen and 1033 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,719 as a consciousness, we've chosen to like, no, no, no, 1034 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,039 we are going to go this other way. 1035 00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 2: So we are, you know, going to be fine. 1036 00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:09,119 Speaker 1: But this is a rollercoaster, right that we'll have it up. 1037 00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 3: To de Yeah, And I agree with that. And I 1038 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,559 think what I would like to say is I'm bringing 1039 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:18,079 awareness to a situation. And having awareness is like you 1040 00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:21,400 said that ten day before a hurricane hits, that you 1041 00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:25,880 can start preparing for the what could be. And I 1042 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,039 think when we have awareness, and I'm all about awareness 1043 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,960 of and that's what a psychic is. You know, we're 1044 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,320 giving you awareness of potentialities, but it's your decisions on 1045 00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:40,559 what you are going to choose in where you go. 1046 00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:43,840 And I agree with us with what you said about humanity. 1047 00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,840 I agree that we have all collectively said no, we're 1048 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,079 going this way, and this is exactly what we're going 1049 00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:51,840 to do, and this is how it's going to be. 1050 00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:57,280 But because we've chosen that, now we've got to get 1051 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,400 rid of the old world and step into that new space. 1052 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,280 I'm kind of really looking forward. I don't know why, 1053 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,880 but to twenty twenty, two thousand and forty I feel 1054 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,800 which sounds like a long time away, but I feel 1055 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,480 like there's going to be a massive shift up until 1056 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,480 two thousand and forty, and in twenty forty, I think 1057 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,679 you're going to find something very, very, very different. 1058 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard. 1059 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,119 Speaker 1: The date that always sticks out is twenty thirty two 1060 00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:28,440 is the major Like, Okay, we have now made it 1061 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,039 over the hump of all the all the crazy, and 1062 00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:34,239 now we're starting to move towards this other direction. It's 1063 00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:37,480 not going to be quick, Yeah, it's going to be slow, 1064 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,760 but it's going to be moving in that direction, but 1065 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,760 where the roller coaster is still going to be bumping 1066 00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:43,320 up until twenty thirty two. 1067 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 2: Is that what you see as well? 1068 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,199 Speaker 3: I agree with that, Yeah, because I always see around 1069 00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:51,159 twenty and thirty five being a little bit more calmer, 1070 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:53,559 and twenty and forty I see it being like not 1071 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,880 necessarily a better Roses because nothing is, but definitely much different. 1072 00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,440 It's almost like we'll be looking back in do you 1073 00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:03,679 remember when we went through in two thousand and whenever 1074 00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:07,119 it was? And I think it's gonna I think it's 1075 00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:11,480 this part of our time will really stand stand us 1076 00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:12,440 in history. 1077 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:13,519 Speaker 2: Now. 1078 00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:15,719 Speaker 1: Another area I wanted to kind of look into the 1079 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:21,199 future as well is the health and medicine. That is 1080 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,519 fascinating to me because you know, our parents' generation was 1081 00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:28,599 like you wear a white coat there. 1082 00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,119 Speaker 2: God, that's just. 1083 00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: Just the way it was. Whatever they said was you know, scripture, 1084 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,239 and you know where my at least I'll speak for myself. 1085 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,239 Speaker 2: I don't look at that now. 1086 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: I have a critical eye, am like, because I know, 1087 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,440 I know have a lot of friends who are doctors, 1088 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,039 have a lot of family members who are doctors, and 1089 00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:48,000 we have conversations. 1090 00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:49,079 Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't what. 1091 00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: You don't even know the basics of nutrition and they're like, yeah, 1092 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,239 we didn't get any because they're only taught two things. 1093 00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,800 They're essentially taught and please forgive all the please forgive 1094 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,000 me for any doctor's watching. But it's like either prescription 1095 01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:07,920 of medicine or surgery. There are those doctors who are 1096 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,280 now evolving into like no, no, no, let's look at 1097 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,480 the cause of this. What is your nutrition? What is 1098 01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:15,079 your But the majority of them are not taught that. 1099 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,559 This is now shifting into other kinds of world. So 1100 01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,519 I'd love to hear what you think where you see 1101 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,960 for health and medicine. We'll be right back after a 1102 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,920 word from our sponsor and now back to the show. 1103 01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:39,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, this is actually something that is very near 1104 01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:42,559 and dear to my heart, actually because I have started 1105 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:46,159 to go down the pathway of understanding the root causes 1106 01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:49,679 of health and problems that we have, and a lot 1107 01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:51,599 of it is our emotions. You know. I deal with 1108 01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:54,800 a lot with people who have autoimmune disease and cancer, 1109 01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,159 and there are emotional elements to those illnesses that have 1110 01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,840 brought them on. And I started to dive in and 1111 01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:07,039 realize that I took three thousand readings that I did 1112 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,840 and I identified with the help of AI it was 1113 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,960 a beautiful thing. But throw it all in and I 1114 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,079 could actually see where people were having reading and their 1115 01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:18,760 mother passed away. Oh and then six months later a 1116 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,400 chronic it almost happened, And so that's really interesting. So 1117 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,719 I do think that the more that we are starting 1118 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,880 to understand that, the more that we can now especially 1119 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,400 with the advances of neuroscience, all of the somatic work 1120 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,039 and the healing that we're doing, we can actually start 1121 01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:40,400 working on the issue at the time, because when we 1122 01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:43,519 look about look at grief, if we don't start working 1123 01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:48,679 towards not necessarily healing grief, but identifying and understanding our 1124 01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,880 grief within the first month, it then becomes hardwired into 1125 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,719 our brain like an addiction pattern, and so we have 1126 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,400 to We're now having this awareness on science. So I 1127 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,719 do feel that science is absolutely exponentially changing in the 1128 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,719 medical practice, you know, medical facilities, because we've now got 1129 01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:10,519 the advancements of peptides, We've got the advancement of understanding 1130 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,719 how our dentistry impacts our health, how our emotions, We've 1131 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,480 got Chinese medicine. People are now turning to acupuncturists and 1132 01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,159 holistic doctors and functional medicine doctors more than they are 1133 01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:27,960 going to their own GP, and even my own GP, 1134 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,840 which when I go there, I listened to him. I'm like, 1135 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,440 do you really sure you're supposed to wear a white coat? 1136 01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:38,960 Because he is now about exercise, diet, look at your 1137 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,239 look at your emotions, let's try this. Let's not do surgery, 1138 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:49,000 which I think is so amazing and in some people 1139 01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:50,960 they would think it was so radical, but it's not. 1140 01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:53,599 It's actually in everyday life. And if you look at 1141 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,880 the advancement of the biohacking industry. You know, Dave asked me, 1142 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,519 in the biohacking industry, this is I mean, I've been 1143 01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,159 in part of that whole world and I've seen it 1144 01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:07,239 where people are now starting to understand their bodies and 1145 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,400 the science behind it and the millions of money, millions 1146 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,880 of dollars that they put into it. It's incredible. And 1147 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,440 if and I think what we've also got to have 1148 01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:20,199 is this shift, this this shift from the old way 1149 01:03:20,239 --> 01:03:24,440 of thinking, like like you said, doctors are they're amazing, 1150 01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,320 they know it all da da da, and all of 1151 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:32,400 these studies to also understanding that there are other ways 1152 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,000 that we can approach our health. We can look at 1153 01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:38,760 it from an emotional point of view, a somatic point 1154 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,639 of view. We can realize that our emotions hold in 1155 01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:46,079 our body and that when we start to actually think about, okay, 1156 01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:49,039 how what is what is my stomach trying to tell me, Oh, 1157 01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:51,800 you're sad? All right, well why is the cause of sadness? 1158 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,639 Now we get with journalize all of a sudden, the 1159 01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:58,280 stomach's fine, you know, it's it's interesting. So I think 1160 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,840 there's going to be experent show changes in our healthcare systems. 1161 01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:05,199 Speaker 2: Is AI going to have a major part of that. 1162 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 3: I do think so, absolutely. 1163 01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:10,039 Speaker 2: Exactly. 1164 01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:16,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, doctor GPT is he's 1165 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,480 not perfect or she's not perfect, but it does give 1166 01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:23,800 you a good It gives you a battle plan. Like 1167 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,800 I saw a course out there about there were doctors 1168 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,320 teaching you how to use chat GPT to help you 1169 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,079 self diagnose a bit and then go into an MD's 1170 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,320 meeting or appointment with this arsenal of information to help 1171 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,880 the doctor help you better. So it's like this combination 1172 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,159 of everything because it is it's so powerful. 1173 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 2: I found that. 1174 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:52,559 Speaker 1: I saw a story the other day that there was 1175 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,280 a woman that went to twenty doctors could not figure 1176 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,960 out none of them could diagnose it. They put it 1177 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,679 all into GPT and CHATGIPT, and all of a sudden, 1178 01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:05,039 she's got the diagnosis and it was accurate, and then 1179 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:08,519 the doctors were able with that diagnosis, the doctors were 1180 01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:11,480 able to treat her properly. They go, oh, we didn't 1181 01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:16,000 think of that, because a human brain can't process ten 1182 01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:19,679 million research. You know, doctor, you know all this kind 1183 01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:23,119 of it just has access to all the information, and 1184 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,519 that's how they say that AI will possibly find the 1185 01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:29,440 cure for cancer because it will look at every research 1186 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,639 ever done, yes, and combine it on cross rock until 1187 01:05:33,639 --> 01:05:36,239 finally it goes, Oh, is it kind of like what you. 1188 01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Did with your with your meetings? It connected? 1189 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: That's that you could have never couldn't have even with 1190 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,079 your second even with your second abilities. 1191 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:44,519 Speaker 2: No. 1192 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was screaming me in the face, you know, 1193 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,840 I had. I had too many people coming to me 1194 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,199 and saying, you know, all of a sudden, I've been 1195 01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:56,239 diagnosed with breast cancer, I've been diagnosed with with this 1196 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,480 or that or the other, I've got this chronic disease, 1197 01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:02,079 or I'm an autoimmune and I'm like, there is something 1198 01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:05,880 that is happening here. And as I started to look 1199 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,199 at it, I was like, I wonder if I could 1200 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,440 just take all of my readings that I've done in 1201 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,679 the last couple of years. So I did, and I 1202 01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:15,760 grabbed as many as I could, and I put them 1203 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,719 all through them all into notebook LM, and I started 1204 01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:24,519 to understand the actual patterns that were going on. And 1205 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:29,440 I'm like, fascinating when we look at it that now 1206 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,760 I can map where the where the illness was related 1207 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,199 to and the emotion that it came from it. It 1208 01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:37,280 was so fascinating. 1209 01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Now, in the next five or ten years, do you 1210 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,639 see any major global events on the horizon that it's 1211 01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:46,679 going to shift humanity's path in a very, very big way. 1212 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,719 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't really looked at that. I try 1213 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,039 not to, and I think there is that I try 1214 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:55,920 not to be honest, because I think sometimes living in 1215 01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:02,119 the now is hard enough for some people. And again, 1216 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,679 I think there's always going to be something. I think 1217 01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:08,519 there's going to be major earthquakes. I think there's definitely 1218 01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,239 going to be major losses that we have. But I 1219 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,360 try not to look at it because and I'll be 1220 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,599 honest why I why I didn't look at it for 1221 01:07:18,639 --> 01:07:20,719 a long time. It was because my husband was military 1222 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,960 and it was only in October that he retired, So 1223 01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:27,000 I chose not to look at it for a reason, 1224 01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:32,440 knowing that he could have been taken into that space. So, yeah, 1225 01:07:32,719 --> 01:07:35,400 that's one of the questions I can't answer, and it's 1226 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,000 not something I have chosen to look at. 1227 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: Got you fair Yeah? Fair enough? Fair enough? 1228 01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:46,519 Speaker 1: And is there a level of personal responsibility that we 1229 01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:49,000 all have to take with this information that we're getting 1230 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,079 because we all feel you know, look, I understand all 1231 01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:56,360 the stuff we've talked about, like it's my sole blueprint, 1232 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,880 and hey, we're learning through these lessons everything, But at 1233 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,280 the end of the day, there's still in some and uncertainty. 1234 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,719 For the human brain is still difficult to process because 1235 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,840 it's it's hardwired into us. So the tiger doesn't eat 1236 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,760 us kind of thing. 1237 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,199 Speaker 2: So what can someone. 1238 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,600 Speaker 1: Do who is really just terrified of the future and 1239 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,359 not truly living in the now. What advice would you 1240 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,600 have for them on how to process and deal with. 1241 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 2: All of this. 1242 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first of all, I think there's several things 1243 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,319 that they can do. Is quiet in the noise, you know, 1244 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,920 choose what they choose to listen to. I had a 1245 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,840 client of mine who everybody was talking about a certain 1246 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,960 date in February where you know, part of California was 1247 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,840 going to disappear, and I when I read for her, 1248 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,000 I said, it's not I said, You're going to be okay. 1249 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,960 And she was in this panic and she was thinking, 1250 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,439 I've got to sell my house before this particular date, 1251 01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,920 and yeah, and I'm like, I want you to use discernment. 1252 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,000 So first of all, choose what you listen to choose 1253 01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:05,359 what noise you want to turn down, and turn down 1254 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,159 the noise really important. Try not to have the news 1255 01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:12,760 on as much. Be informed, but don't get you don't 1256 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,840 get your news from Facebook or get your news from 1257 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:21,319 reputable sources. The other part of it is really step 1258 01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:25,880 into a meditation practice. Step into a meditation practice, even 1259 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,359 if it is quiet in your mind for ten minutes 1260 01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:31,760 in the morning and ten minutes in the afternoon, because 1261 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,880 by quieting your mind you're allowing your nervous system to 1262 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,840 settle down. Then you can start listening to that discernment 1263 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,960 that we have, that intuitive part of us, where that 1264 01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:47,319 intuitive part is going to tell you what news source 1265 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,039 is right and what you feel is right and wrong 1266 01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:54,920 for you to work with because we all have our 1267 01:09:55,039 --> 01:09:58,560 internal barometer of what is right wrong, what acts some 1268 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,720 internal compass of what works for us. And I think 1269 01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:08,960 really using discernment and trusting your own intuition that is 1270 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,680 going to be massive in the next ten years in 1271 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,000 moving forward. 1272 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,079 Speaker 1: Beautifully said Lisa, Where can people find out more about 1273 01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:19,520 you and the amazing work you're doing, You know, they. 1274 01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 3: Can go to Lisa Williams dot com or follow me 1275 01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:27,399 on socials I'm Lisa Williams medium pretty much everywhere, so yeah. 1276 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 1: And do you have any final messages for the audience. 1277 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 3: You know, my final message would be is trust your 1278 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,239 own instincts. As much as we've talked about some bigger 1279 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,199 global impacts here, I think it's really taking what works 1280 01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:45,640 for you, what really resonates for you. I always say, 1281 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,079 if you're looking to develop your own spiritual awareness, find 1282 01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:53,439 what works for you. You are your own in a guide. 1283 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,439 You don't need anybody else to tell you. It's really 1284 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,039 about what you trust. So I just encourage everyone to 1285 01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:00,159 listen to themselves. 1286 01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: Beautifully, said Lisa, it has been such a pleasure and 1287 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,319 honor speaking to you today. You're wonderful. I love your energy, 1288 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,239 I love your sense of humor, I love your perspective 1289 01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:12,960 on the world, and I appreciate you and everything you're 1290 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,000 doing to awaken the planet. 1291 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,119 Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you. 1292 01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 3: It's been an absolute pleasure and some great, great conversations here. 1293 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,960 Thank you for having me, Thank. 1294 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: You for spending this sacred time with us today. If 1295 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,920 you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find 1296 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,039 the show notes for this episode at next levelsoul dot com. 1297 01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,600 Forward slash sixty nine to four, and if your soul 1298 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,680 is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level 1299 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,920 Soul TV our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, 1300 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,319 guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and transformative teachings. It's a 1301 01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:53,079 space created to support your awakening, you're healing, and your 1302 01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:56,199 return to the truth of who you really are. Begin 1303 01:11:56,279 --> 01:12:01,720 your journey at Next levelsoul dot TV. Next time, Keep expanding, 1304 01:12:02,079 --> 01:12:05,800 keep seeking, and keep walking your path towards the next 1305 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,920 level of your soul. 1306 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 2: M M M