WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:04.240 Hey everybody, Dando here and welcome to this very special 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.160 sneak peek at our Patreon exclusive review of season eleven's 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.080 eight Misbehavior. Now, if you listen to this, you'll be wondering, 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.320 where's Guy. Well, there is no Guy in this review. No, 5 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:17.199 it is reviewed by myself and my original co host, Mitch. Now, 6 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.399 if you're a supporter of ours on Patreon, you would 7 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.960 already be well aware that Mitch has rejoined the show 8 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.960 after six long years, and every single month we review 9 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:28.280 two season eleven episodes of the show exclusively for our 10 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:30.800 supporters on Patreon. So Mitch was my co host for 11 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.520 the first ten seasons of four Finger Discount. He took 12 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:35.600 a break, and now we are kicking off where we 13 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:37.560 left off. So we started at the beginning of season 14 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.079 eleven and we're working our way through the teen era 15 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.240 of the show, which for the most part, Mitch has 16 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:44.079 never seen. So it's a lot of fun. But it's 17 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:46.320 just fun to catch up and talk about dad life 18 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:48.600 because Mitch is now a dad as well, and it's 19 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:50.600 just good for a good old fashioned Mitch and Dando 20 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.280 catch up each and every month. So each month our 21 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:57.320 Patreon supporters get access to two exclusive season eleven reviews 22 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.679 featuring Mitch and Dando and his little sneak peak at 23 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.880 our recent review of eight Misbehaven. Hope you guys enjoy this, 24 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:05.760 and if you do, in fact enjoy it, think about 25 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.239 maybe supporting the show on Patreon for getting access to 26 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.959 every single episode featuring mich and Dana. But for now, 27 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.400 enjoy our review of eight Misbehaven. 28 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.280 Are you sure you want the child a Pooh? 29 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:17.120 You're not? I dou? 30 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.439 I mean there comes a damon a man's life when 31 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.760 he asks himself, who would flood my corpse down the Ganges? 32 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.359 Oh pooh, take me now? 33 00:01:26.920 --> 00:02:00.239 Or cacta fourfinger Discount dude. 34 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.319 Welcome to four Finger Discount, the podcast where we always 35 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.359 appreciate a good banana bread and Dando, I am Mitch. 36 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.560 Would you like nuts in your banana breada or you were? 37 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:57.439 Well maybe not in this house? Yeah, a riot to Nicolai. 38 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.000 Will never been a nut man. I've never liked peans, 39 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.480 never liked the smell of them. Look any form of nuts, 40 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:05.920 Tala Teler of the Kid weird right, no texture in 41 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:06.560 your banana bread? 42 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.240 Then you with like just a soft, smooth, toasted. 43 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:11.560 Or fresh I had never eaten banana bread before I 44 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:13.960 met Nikola. She opened up me to a whole new 45 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.520 world of food. Yeah. I never tried Indian food. I've 46 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.639 never tried Thai food. I just never. I was just 47 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.039 my mum made sausage and vegetables growing up. You know 48 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.960 what I mean, the heat and be meat and bedge. 49 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.639 I put it to you that not much smells better 50 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.840 than banana bread baking in the house. I think I 51 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.240 was gonna say cinnamon scroll Maybe what's better than the 52 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.560 smell of a taste? I mean, nicola makes What I 53 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:36.840 like about banana bread is nicola makes it healthy as well. 54 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.120 And sometimes you got to spoil yourself with with your treats. 55 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.960 And but I like eating it knowing this is better 56 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:44.599 for me than normal banana bread. 57 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.080 You know that it's something that like I've done a 58 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:48.080 few healthy banana breads. 59 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:49.919 You don't want to feed your kid too much sugar. 60 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.319 But then a few weeks back, I was like, you 61 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:56.319 know what, fuck it, I'm just gonna like I am 62 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:58.960 throwing everything in this and I don't care and enjoy it. 63 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.120 And it was the soft, juiciest most And I was 64 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.960 just like, oh, that's the secret. Like if you if 65 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:05.840 you're eating, if you want to know if the banana 66 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.319 bread is good for you're bad for you. If it 67 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.639 kind of feels closer to cardboard, it's healthy. Yeah, if 68 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.319 it feels in any way soft, fifty grams a sugar person, 69 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.039 that's the secret. Because I was making a rap the 70 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:21.120 other day, right, chicken rap, not hip hop album, No 71 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:26.560 No No, I wish and our friend Big Brigsy whole 72 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.120 gray must I had whole gray mustard or I had 73 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.759 garlic aoli and I was like, whole. 74 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.800 Grad mustard is good for the waist mustard. And this 75 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.360 voice in my head was like, just do it, just 76 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.039 just do the Ali. And I was like, we're going 77 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.280 to make something. I want to enjoy it. It's just Ali. Yeah, 78 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.360 And I had the Ali, loved it. Yeah. Good. Sometimes 79 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:52.240 just going to be a sandwich you were mentioning earlier 80 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.960 when you last a couple episodes ago. You make taco 81 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.560 sometimes and the light sour cream is like, not light, 82 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.520 it's going to do it? Just make sure. Yeah, light 83 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.400 cheese fuck that. Yeah, we always get we get light cheese. Yeah, 84 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:04.919 and it's sort of a bit that much lighter. It's 85 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.879 like maybe two grams less fats just go full. Yeah, 86 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.479 an old manager of mind that always drank light milk. 87 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.159 What are you doing yourself, Matty? Not saving anything? It 88 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:14.800 just enjoys it. 89 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.120 I was like, I was holding up nutrition labels and 90 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.959 are you sacrificing the flavor so much for like the 91 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:20.639 ten percent. 92 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.120 Don't go by the serving sizes, go by the per 93 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.319 hundred mil That's where the real comparisons are much better. 94 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.360 But this episode here, it's about a Pooh and Andula 95 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.839 finally getting a child, well eight of them. It's an 96 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:34.639 episode that's very bizarre by the end. But I thought 97 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.839 everything leading up to the wacky end was really fun 98 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:38.399 and enjoyable. 99 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.519 Wacky end was grim, I'll be honest, and I feel 100 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.560 like that is not a fair judgment of the episode. 101 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.040 It's more because, in a similar way to idiocracy, when 102 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.120 society has pushed yourself so far that you look back 103 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.120 at satire from twenty years ago, and I was watching it, 104 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.720 I was like, it actually just doesn't feel all that 105 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.160 far fetched, And as a result, I feel sad for 106 00:04:59.199 --> 00:04:59.680 these babies. 107 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.240 They're not laughing at the idea of them. I feel 108 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.240 like if someone had topless now, we'd get a reality 109 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:05.759 show about it. 110 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.680 While they already was there. It's not the one with showed, 111 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:11.160 was it. I'm sure that was the crazy thing? Is 112 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.000 I believe it? It doesn't seem unrealistic? Yeah, yeah. We 113 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:16.519 watch Have You Been Paying Attentions? 114 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.680 The only show we watch on free to air TV, right, 115 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.360 and we see a lot of ads for reality shows 116 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.839 and I'm watching this, going why is this person getting 117 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:26.920 their own reality show? Who is this person? It's like, 118 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.199 you know, some hillbilly guy in the States has got 119 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.519 his dating two sisters are his two different wives, And 120 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.639 I'm like, why is this now a television show? 121 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.680 Not to make a joke or make light of a 122 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.120 bad situation, but the most recent reality show thing that 123 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.680 was that I saw was that from Maps I think 124 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:44.800 it was UK Maps. 125 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:45.319 A couple of. 126 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:50.639 Contestants alleged alleged sexual assault and I think as far 127 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:51.199 as to say it. 128 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:52.079 Was one of them was raped. 129 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.360 Well on reality show, on the show and it's just 130 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:02.399 always the ones you most suspect. Well, this here, I thought, 131 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.000 the overall story of a Pooh and Mandela struggle to 132 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.680 get pregnant, then deal with the task of parenthood despite 133 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:12.120 the fact this is everything they wanted. Then the realization 134 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.879 of Oh, this is hard, because parenthood is hard. It 135 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:17.000 has its challenges, but you do it because you love 136 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.879 it and that's what you've wanted. I thought it was 137 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.720 just very relatable for people who have, particularly prison. 138 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.040 Yes if you don't those who have who have now 139 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.839 had a child, I thought they really I thought who 140 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.480 wrote this episode. I think it was Matt Salmon. I mean, 141 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.600 Matt Salmon did a really good job of just capturing 142 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:35.079 that the pressure and stress of parenthood because you love 143 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.160 your kids are death. But it's just like, oh I 144 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:37.720 need a break. 145 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:39.519 Yeah, a couple of days in and I mean, imagine 146 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:40.000 eight of. 147 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.800 Them, That's what I say. It was hard enough with one. 148 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.600 Let me obviously had that second, but eight on your 149 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:45.399 first go around. 150 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.160 Ash had a really good friend had triplets and I 151 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.079 saw them for the first ones that went from not 152 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:52.639 having had kids to having three of them, and I 153 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.040 saw them a couple of weeks later. And you've never 154 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.600 seen a more tired pair of people in my life. 155 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.759 Yeah, it's not just mentally, it's physically as well. Everything 156 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:00.639 about actually change it. 157 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.920 You think, like, I mean, it's not war, obviously think 158 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.399 but now no one knows that I'm making this as 159 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.480 a serious comparison, But you think about the idea of 160 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.600 someone fighting in the somme and there's just like fucking 161 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.759 shelling after shelling after shelling, and you're not getting any sleep, 162 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.839 and like, that's the closest comparison that I can imagine. 163 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.480 And even just with one, it was that like those 164 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.959 first two weeks, you know, you hit a tiredness that 165 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.680 you didn't know existed, where it's just like, I'm les 166 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:31.079 never slept for more than like three hours. Sorry through 167 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.399 the at nighttime it was never more than three and 168 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:35.800 in the day it was never more than like forty 169 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.199 five minutes to an hour. So every forty every every 170 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.600 three hour cycle would begin with like wake up, have 171 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.720 a feed, but whatever, have a little bit of a play, 172 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:51.279 go to sleep. Then within that forty five minute period, 173 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:52.959 it's like I have to clean everything. I've got to 174 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:54.800 clean the towels that we just use for all of this. 175 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.000 I've got to make sure that we've got There was 176 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.839 breastfeeding and bottle feeding was like make sure that all 177 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:01.800 that stuff is fine, and we've cleaned the bottles and 178 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.399 everything's gone, and you'd be seventy percent of the way 179 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.319 through that and then she'd wake back up, and it 180 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.879 was and it's just that for like two straight weeks. 181 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.959 Two weeks. Holly didn't sleep for an entire two years. 182 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.279 Did you guys have to go sleep school? 183 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:19.920 Did you? Oh? No, you just Holly? She had when 184 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:25.360 they throw up in their mouth talking to me syndrome. No, no, 185 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.519 they throw up in their throat and it causes like, no, 186 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.439 that burning sensation in your throat when you're thrown up. 187 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:34.080 So she hasn't actually thrown up silent reflex because she's 188 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.799 not actually throwing up, it's just sort of burning her throat. 189 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.159 So she just cried and cried and cried, and it 190 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.960 was it was just after two full years she slept 191 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:45.360 the full night. Yeah, okay, Yeah. 192 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.559 Was she diagnosed for that or was it an unknown? 193 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.039 Okay? So you knew and still just couldn't count even 194 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:52.399 do it? You can't, you can't. There's no cure for 195 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.720 silent reflex. They just outgrow it. The doctors would just 196 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.879 say grow it, like grow it easy for you to say, doctor, 197 00:08:57.960 --> 00:08:59.840 Oh no, it's like yeah, but when it's like every 198 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.799 I was different and I'm like that doesn't help me 199 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.679 because that's for us. It was knowing or not knowing 200 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:08.720 when is this going to end. It will end at 201 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.320 some point. But when and we met someone once at 202 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.840 like this like group thing, she was like, my child's form, 203 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.000 she's still doing it and like that broke Nikola, like 204 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.879 it broke me. Like Nikola was just when I saw 205 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:21.639 I wasn't too bad. But when I saw that it 206 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.320 broke Nicola. I'm like, if Nicholas broken, unbroken, like Nicholas 207 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.200 stronger than I am mentally. And when I saw that 208 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.159 she was just broken, I'm like, yeah, I'm done. That's rough. 209 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.720 Were like, that's what We only have one child now, Yeah, 210 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.879 and you're better for it. And it's nice that I've 211 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.080 got somewhere to sleep if I too after recording. 212 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:40.240 Ye, but yeah, I just thought there's particular scenes in 213 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:44.240 this that really captured the vibe of parenthood. You're just 214 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.080 touching on the when they wake up in the night 215 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.200 and whatnot when a pooh, it's the times and he's 216 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.679 just fallen asleep with them. Have you had you done that? 217 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:51.720 There was a couple of times where I just fell 218 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.600 asleep next to the I woke up next to the 219 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:55.559 cot not realizing that I've fallen asleep. Ah. 220 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:59.919 Yeah, only one time comes to mind, and kind of shamefully, 221 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.279 it was an accident. I'd actually we were on holidays 222 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:04.240 and I'd had a few drinks and I came back. 223 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.120 I went out with mates while ash was in the hotel, 224 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:08.759 and I came back and Lex was crying. And I 225 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.879 could tell with mates after she was born, no, no, 226 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:16.279 not after she was born. She would have been about one. 227 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.360 She was not quite one at this age. But I 228 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.879 came back and could tell from the look on Ashal faces, 229 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:23.440 like all this has been going on a while, and 230 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:24.919 as much as all I want to do right now 231 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.639 is crawl into bed, I've got to relieve. 232 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.799 The I've been having fun and she's been here doing this, yeah, 233 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:31.600 and that. 234 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:33.399 The only way I could get her to stop crying 235 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.039 was to sit her on my chest and sort of 236 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.519 lay back myself. And then I fell asleep and woke up. 237 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.559 And just because of how small she was and the 238 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.639 fact that I was not sober at the time, I 239 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.240 did really hate myself for that one, to be honest, 240 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:49.559 I was like, that wasn't not cool. You feel jealous 241 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.919 for doing things for yourself? Yeah, I mean, but you 242 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.120 feel feel guilty, feel guilty, You feel guilty yeah, you 243 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:57.919 feel you feel I knew what she meant it, but like, 244 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:01.159 that's that's the deal. You just from that, I was like, 245 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.039 I'll never get drunk again if there's a chance that 246 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:04.559 I have to be looking after it, because it's not 247 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:05.919 worth with that. 248 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:10.039 Beyond that, though, I typically go back to the like 249 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:10.840 really young. 250 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:14.720 If she was having a hard time sleeping. I liked 251 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.039 being awake for those moments because I knew that it 252 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:18.919 would pass pretty quickly and she would only be that 253 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.039 small for such a small time thing. Yeah, so I 254 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.840 would listen to audiobooks or watch a movie on an 255 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.080 iPad and like I'd set up a little thought of 256 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.159 mattresses or dooms or whatever. 257 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:30.519 Pillows whatever. 258 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.759 I had to keep the light away from her eyes, 259 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.320 so it'd be like she'd be on my left shoulder 260 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.279 and I'll just be around the corner there watching Star Wars. 261 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.519 But yeah, so that was kind of how I rolled. 262 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.000 I was like, what, I had five weeks off, which 263 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:49.720 helped with some manual even parental leave. So I was 264 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:51.320 in that state where I was like, whatever, I'll just 265 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.440 be tired in the day. I want to take these 266 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:54.720 moments and let Ash have asleep. 267 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.879 That's for me. Obviously, podcasting is my job. Now. I 268 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.559 could go out and get an office job somewhere whatever, 269 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.200 But I just like they're any little once. Yeah, and 270 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:03.559 I've got so much time out. I pick them u 271 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.000 from school every day. I take them to schoolvery day. 272 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.399 I kick the footy with Elliott for an hour after 273 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.679 school at his school, play with Holly on the monkey 274 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.480 bars and whatnot. I won't get to do this forever. Yeah, 275 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.639 so I'm just gonna take this chance now, enjoy these moments, 276 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:16.919 and I think our relationship be better for it. In 277 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:19.960 the future, of course it will be. Yeah, amazing. But 278 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.279 Homer and Margin this episode, I thought they were used 279 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.519 pretty well. I thought, you know, they they kind of 280 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.639 become the default of poor Mandula couple's friends. Yeah, yep. 281 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:31.759 Never really seen a poor manjol hanging out with anybody 282 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.519 else but the Simpsons. Ye, and Homa was there for 283 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.000 them in the earlier stage of trying to get them 284 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.399 help pregnant, help save the babies in the end as well, 285 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.879 and Marge was just there making her banana butter as well. Yeah. 286 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.600 Yeah, like Marge largely, I think she was written and 287 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.840 performed really well in this, Like it felt pretty true 288 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.159 to life of of a mother, like an experienced mother 289 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:55.440 helping an expectant and then ultimately new mother through that process. 290 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.159 Trying to yeah, give her advice and whatnot, because when 291 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.000 you're a first parent, you don't take advice. I remember 292 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:01.679 my parents give me advice and I'm like, you don't 293 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:04.919 know what you're talking about, old lady. I know what 294 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.320 I'm doing, Mum. Just leave it to me, Give me 295 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:08.759 the ball and I'll do the rest. 296 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.240 Yeah, myself in trouble if I talk too much about 297 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.440 I was like, take it from everywhere, but I could 298 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:17.159 also take it with a grain of salt, whereas Ash 299 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:18.600 would take it to heart a little bit more. 300 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.679 How'd you guys take it? When someone was telling you 301 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.600 weren't doing it right, I. 302 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.639 Wouldn't shoot back at them again. For me, it was 303 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.440 more about defending Ash. So Ash would question herself and 304 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.759 then I would be like, fuck that. The only thing 305 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.799 that matters is lex and the thing you said before, 306 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.480 All kids are different. So I was always able to 307 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.840 be like, Okay, yes there's advice, and there's a spectrum 308 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.480 and all those sorts of things, like we had a 309 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.639 maternal health nurse say you shouldn't pat them on the 310 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:49.519 bum when you're trying to settle them, because it can 311 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:53.200 disrupt some kids. And I was like, great, except when 312 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:55.799 I do it, it works, and I think she's like 313 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:57.720 so it was just that it was like, well, I'll 314 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:01.639 be led by her more so than what a textbook 315 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.279 or what someone else's experience would be. Try it, sure, 316 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:06.639 but if it doesn't work, it's all right. 317 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:06.840 Cool. 318 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.399 I'm not going to try to make my kid fit 319 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.039 that box. It's more go in the direction that is 320 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:11.840 working for the kid. 321 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.559 We changed health nurses. Yeah, have three different ones. The 322 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.440 first one was always The first one was just like 323 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.480 this is how you do it and you can't do 324 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.200 it any other way. The second one was just sort 325 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:23.840 of I could tell she was judging us for this 326 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:25.600 and the other. So we went to the third one. 327 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.799 The third one was like, what have you guys been doing? 328 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:30.120 And we sort of explained things and they're like what 329 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:34.360 works the best, this option, this option. She's like, just 330 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.840 do more of that. She's like, all kids are different. 331 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.399 You do what works for you guys, and for your kid. 332 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:41.440 I'm like that's what we needed to hear, Like, you're 333 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.559 not doing it wrong, you just need to do it 334 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:44.080 your way. 335 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.039 Granted, there are some things that are definitely wrong. 336 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.159 Pillows not on the top of the face. Yeah, yeah, 337 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.799 wrap them up in winter. I feed them three times 338 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:53.080 a day. 339 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:54.960 Yeah, a few basics that I think we can all 340 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.120 get behind this. But then the other little things like, 341 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.639 you know, some kids are going to like a night 342 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:01.399 light on in the room or white noise. Some kids 343 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.039 are going to want a dark room in silence. Some 344 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.919 kids like to be swaddled, some kids like to be 345 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.000 in you know. The stupidest, simplest one for us was 346 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:13.559 changing to sleepsuit. Like Lex hated being wrapped up as 347 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:15.360 a kid, so like if her arms were tucked in, 348 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.320 she was awful. Then we got the saffish things. Yeah, 349 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.240 the Staffish sleepsuit was golden for ages, and that was 350 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:24.519 one of those things of like, oh no one said 351 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:25.120 we could do that. 352 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.639 Yeah, and then I thought we were supposed to do that. Yeah, yeah, 353 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.000 I thought they liked being snug. 354 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.399 Yeah, yeah, exactly that, or even just like even if 355 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.320 we didn't have one of those, like just let her 356 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:35.879 have her arms here and she was fine. 357 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.159 I think Holly was exactly the same. Yeah, she still 358 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.480 woke up, but would fall asleep better. My favorite favorite 359 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.240 moments for me. I didn't want to spoil this in 360 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.519 the intro, but can we talk about the banana bread scene? Yes, 361 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.080 we go. This is one of the funny Simpson scenes 362 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:51.759 thin in a while. Yeah, I think because I'm a 363 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:53.919 parent and I've lived through people bringing food over and 364 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.360 I'm like, how is this going to help me? But 365 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.360 problems aside, but the way I pooh, because this is 366 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:02.840 what this is what you go through when you're a 367 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.240 new parent. It's the I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just emotional, 368 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.360 but not a bread I'm sorry bread. 369 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:14.879 I still I mean, I think you still carry it's 370 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.320 it's more heightened them, but you carry it through now. Right, 371 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.120 Like my dad, we both work ash and I both 372 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.759 work full time likes in kinder Monday to Friday from 373 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:24.320 like eight thirty issues. 374 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:25.519 About five o'clock. 375 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.279 It's largely all she's ever known, so it's not a 376 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:32.000 huge deal and she does well, but we feel that 377 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:33.960 guilt as well about not being able to have the 378 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:38.200 exact sort of time you were talking about. And Dad 379 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:40.120 was calling mix he wants to take her to the 380 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.840 zoo and got a Zoom membership. I was like, yeah, 381 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.720 that sounds great. And wanted to leave the conversation there 382 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.440 because like meaning, well was that thing of you know, 383 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.320 because it's just such a long day for there, mate, 384 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:53.960 Like it's such a big I know, she's like, I 385 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.799 know she's getting bigger, but it's such a long day. 386 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.480 Kind I'm like, yeah, I'm aware, shut the fuck. 387 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.000 Up about it. Please don't do anything about it. 388 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:05.920 Yeah, like yeah, so yeah, that people helping can trigger 389 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:09.839 you in ways where you're like, because I think it, Well, 390 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.960 the banana bread thing, You're like, that's not what I 391 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:13.720 need right now. 392 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:18.599 What I need right now is sleep. I liked when 393 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.480 they brought over hot meals, like a pasta bake or 394 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.319 a lasagne, Like this is something I can actually enjoy it. 395 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.079 But I like banana bread, but it's some an essential meal. Yeah, yes, 396 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.880 it's not helping me all that much. But I think 397 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:32.759 the other thing that can get you, though, is that 398 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.720 people helping you in a moment when you're feeling. 399 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:42.200 You're aware of your deficiencies. Yeah that sometimes it can 400 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.519 just like hold up a mirror a little bit too 401 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.759