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<v Speaker 1>In the last episode, we discussed part one of Sheila Davilou.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today we're going to be continuing that story with

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<v Speaker 1>part two, so be sure if you haven't heard yet,

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<v Speaker 1>to check out part one before continuing with us today.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, let's get into the rest of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcasting. The following podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>material intended for.

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<v Speaker 1>A mature audience. Listener discretion is advised. I owe everyone

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<v Speaker 1>on an apology. Do you I do?

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>When I uploaded part one the other day, I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to put part one in the title. Wow, until like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like six hours later and I realized so.

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<v Speaker 1>But however, we did talk about in the intro of

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<v Speaker 1>that episode that it was part one. Oh, but I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to put in the title.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that intentional?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't. It was completely accidental.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm just bugging. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just sitting there chilling. Then I can just

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, this like epiphany hit me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't put part one in the title.

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<v Speaker 1>So I rushed back and edit it and put it

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<v Speaker 1>back in and I was like, I hope not too

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<v Speaker 1>many people are going to be mad at me.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta love those epiphanies, say right, that realization of oops,

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<v Speaker 2>I fucked up. I hate when they happen in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night, when you're like trying to fall

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<v Speaker 2>back to sleep or something and you're like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels the worst. It feels like you're your like heart

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<v Speaker 1>and stomach is dropping through the bed you're laying on,

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<v Speaker 1>you just like sink deeper into just like despair. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's the worst. But one thing does help that, really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually there's two things that helps it. This and signing

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<v Speaker 1>up over on Patreon. Did you see that covin I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that one I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you probably thought it was gonna be the first one,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, the second thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here and can see you going to open your

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<v Speaker 2>oh to fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough, fair enough. Well, maybe I got some people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the second thing is signing up over on Patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have some amazing patrons to thank this week,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Maggie Williams, Amanda greg Ka Ray. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I said your name right, Sandra and Dennis, Katie Ort,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Yates, Tammy Sutton, Sarah Wellen, Kristen and Amanda Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>They all signed up. They're getting that access behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>They get our Friday photo dump, some pre shows exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>episode that comes out at the end of the month

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who signed up to that all access.

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<v Speaker 2>Than mag It's a good list of peeps.

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<v Speaker 1>It is good list of peeps, and it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little place to just hang out, learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>the show and learn more about us too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good vibes over there. Honestly, good vibes is

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<v Speaker 2>a good way of putting it. Yeah, but are.

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<v Speaker 1>You ready for part two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Talking about good old Sheila.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about good old Sheila. I don't know if i'd

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<v Speaker 1>really say good old Sila.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of a bitch. But we're telling her story regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>She's kind of a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>She's kind of a fucking bitch. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the truth. That's that's what she's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? Yeah, I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I've got a little bit of a recap

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<v Speaker 1>in case there's been some time since you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>part one, So a little bit of a recap on

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on last episode. So. Sheila Davlou was a

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical research scientist living in New York in the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands. She was married to Paul Christos, a doctoral

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<v Speaker 1>student and researcher, and the two appear to be living

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<v Speaker 1>a stable, very professional life now. In reality, Sheila had

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<v Speaker 1>a very long history of hiding relationships and controlling what

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<v Speaker 1>people around her knew about her personal life. After immigrating

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<v Speaker 1>from Iran as a child, Sheila grew up in a

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<v Speaker 1>very strict household, one that emphasized academic success and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a public image to go along with it, because hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we want, right people to perceive us well

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<v Speaker 1>and also to do well. She studied biochemistry at Stonebrook

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<v Speaker 1>University and later earned a master's degree at New York

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<v Speaker 1>Medical College. Under family pressure, she entered her first marriage

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<v Speaker 1>at quite a young age, but still while married, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when she began an affair with Paul Christos. Now after

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<v Speaker 1>her divorce, she married Paul in two thousand and moved

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<v Speaker 1>in with him in Pleasantville, New York. Both Sheila and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul worked very demanding schedules, and their marriage gradually became

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<v Speaker 1>rather emotionally distant. Paul remained loyal and very trusting, believing

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<v Speaker 1>that their situation would eventually improve, and in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one, while working at Purdue Farmer in Stamford, Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>began an affair with a coworker named Nelson Sessler. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson was unaware that she was married, and to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the two men separate, Sheila told Paul that her mentally

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<v Speaker 1>ill brother visited regularly and required Paul to leave their apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>remove all his belongings in any existence of him, basically

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<v Speaker 1>not to upset her brother. Now during these periods, she

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<v Speaker 1>brought Nelson to the condo, of course, not this brother,

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<v Speaker 1>making him believe that she was in fact living alone

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<v Speaker 1>and single. So at the same time, Sheila told Paul

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<v Speaker 1>very ongoing stories about a workplace love triangle involving Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and Anna Lisa. Now these stories were actually about herself, Nelson,

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<v Speaker 1>and another woman in Nelson's life, Anna Alissa Raymundo, and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul unknowingly gave Sheila advice about well her own relationship

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the side. Nelson eventually chose Anna Alisa

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<v Speaker 1>over Sheila, and as her relationship became more serious, Sheila

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<v Speaker 1>became increasingly obsessed with him. She monitored his schedule with Analisa,

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<v Speaker 1>access to Nelson's voicemail, and arranged coincidental encounters in public spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>By late two thousand and two, she viewed Annalisa as

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<v Speaker 1>the main obstacle to being with Nelson. She's the one

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<v Speaker 1>in the way. So on November eighth, two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>Shila left work for several hours and went to Analisa's condo. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>after gaining entry, she attacked her in a violent struggle

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<v Speaker 1>and stabbed her to death. Then she placed an anonymous

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<v Speaker 1>nine to one one call from a nearby pay phone,

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<v Speaker 1>tipping off the very bloody murder scene she had just

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<v Speaker 1>left behind, and then returned to work. Police initially focused

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<v Speaker 1>on Nelson, but his ALBI proved extremely concrete, so now

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<v Speaker 1>investigators didn't know about Sheila's relationship with him at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and early forensic evidence did not identify any other suspect,

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<v Speaker 1>so the case essentially stalled. After the murder, Sheila reinserted

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<v Speaker 1>herself into nelson life as the emotional support person, and

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship started to blossom in razume. Meanwhile, Paul, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he remained unaware of all of this, and he continued

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the home during those supposed brothers visits. Now, early

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three, Sheila was again maintaining two

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<v Speaker 1>separate relationships, but the difference now was Paul was beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to question some of these things. And that is where

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<v Speaker 1>we left off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is just a wild story. It is, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>hard to believe that that is even true.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she is a very much so manipulative person.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say a master manipulator, which she very

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<v Speaker 1>much so is, but I don't want to give her

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<v Speaker 1>that credit. At the same time, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, She's kind of a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>She's kind of a bitch. That's the ongoing theme of

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<v Speaker 1>this story for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any questions or anything you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go over before we dive into the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>part too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, pretty straightforward. Yeah, it all came back to me

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<v Speaker 2>in one little.

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<v Speaker 1>Hush, little overwhelming wave of she kind of a bitch? Yeah, gotcha. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with that all out of the way, let's dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the story. So by early two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three, the strain on Sheila and Paul's marriage had

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<v Speaker 1>become quite impossible to ignore. What had once been a

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<v Speaker 1>partnership built around shared ambition and mutual respect, while it

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<v Speaker 1>had slowly turned into a relationship that was more defined

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<v Speaker 1>by distance. Paul was spending most of his time working

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<v Speaker 1>on his doctoral research and teaching, while Sheila seemed increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed in her own world. Their schedules while they rarely aligned,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they were together and conversations happened while they

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<v Speaker 1>were often brief and only really surface level ones. The

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<v Speaker 1>arrangements surrounding Sheila's brother, it too, had become one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest sources of tension between them. For years, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>had accepted the idea that he needed to leave his

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<v Speaker 1>own home whenever her brother had visited. He packed up

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<v Speaker 1>his belongings, removed fos, photos and any sort of personal items,

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<v Speaker 1>and stayed in hotels without any sort of complaint.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's pretty messed up, because it's not just that

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<v Speaker 2>he's like leaving, it's that he has to take his

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<v Speaker 2>whole existence out of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is true. And what we talked about in Part

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<v Speaker 1>one was the idea that like her brother being mentally ill,

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<v Speaker 1>she's leaning on the idea of saying that, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>he sees that I have a relationship with you, it

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<v Speaker 1>could upset him that, you know, he's not central to

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<v Speaker 1>my life anymore and disrupt his like his balance, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand Paul's wanting to be very supportive of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but at a certain point that becomes too much, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and I think it it in his mind, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should just let me meet the brother

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<v Speaker 2>and like work this out kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of thing for sure. Like at first, he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably doing something necessary to not only integrate myself

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<v Speaker 1>into her life, but you know, the brother's life. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get there. But over time he's like, Okay, these

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<v Speaker 1>visits are becoming more frequent, less predictable, Like they happened

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<v Speaker 1>like monthly, and other times they were even like more

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<v Speaker 1>often than that, and each visit it meant that Paul

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<v Speaker 1>was disappearing from his own life for days at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he eventually is just like, well, this is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer a reasonable situation. So he had never met the

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<v Speaker 1>brother in law, he'd never been included in conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>the future. He was being asked to pretend that his

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<v Speaker 1>life inside his own marriage basically didn't exist, and so

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<v Speaker 1>his frustrations are growing, and he started actually expressing some

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<v Speaker 1>concerns to Sheila, which is good. Good for him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually standing up to himself or for himself and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I think like, at first, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be supportive and do what you're wanting and needing

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<v Speaker 1>from me, but at a certain point you need to

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<v Speaker 1>let me have me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's unreasonable and we need to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with a game plan going forward one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So he asked whether the situation could change, and he

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that her brother might eventually need to know the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and he questioned whether continuing to live separate lives if

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<v Speaker 1>it actually made any sense. Now, these conversations with Sheila,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't exactly go well. Sheila reacted quite emotionally whenever

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<v Speaker 1>the topic was brought up. She framed Paul's concerns as

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<v Speaker 1>while Paul was pushing back. He also began noticing other

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<v Speaker 1>she worked late more often, and she sometimes seemed distracted

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<v Speaker 1>It was now like off. Something was there he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been responsible. Now, with all of this happening from

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila's perspective, Paul was becoming a bit of a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He was no longer content to quietly accept her word

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<v Speaker 1>And those expectations, will they directly threaten the life that

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<v Speaker 2>That is so messed up that that would be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right, But that's exactly the situation. She's leading

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm obsessed with Paul. He just seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, I mean he's a little naive, let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way and be honest. But yeah, he's very trusting,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. But he is not what she wants I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, wants him to keep being this little

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<v Speaker 2>naive person that doesn't ask questions or think about outside

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<v Speaker 2>the box of how can we fix this or change this?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, she just wants attention in certain ways, and if

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<v Speaker 1>she finds it in the other and another relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's not only confronting it and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce because hey, this relationship isn't for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to find someone else and lead the double life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, Shila faced a choice. She could end

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<v Speaker 1>her marriage, pursue a divorce just as I was talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and deal with the financial, the professional, the social consequences,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that sort of stuff that comes along with it,

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<v Speaker 1>or choice number two, she could remove Paul as an

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<v Speaker 2>Two. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was not long after these tensions intensified that

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila introduced Paul to a new idea. She told him

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<v Speaker 1>that she heard about a trust game from coworkers now.

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<v Speaker 1>She described it as a bonding experience, something designed to

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<v Speaker 1>had a little bedroom game sort of say, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>game for couples, you know, involving blindfolds, handcuffs, and guessing

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<v Speaker 1>objects based on touch. Sheila framed it as very harmless

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<v Speaker 1>and intimate, a way for them to reconnect after months

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<v Speaker 1>of emotional distance right now. Paul being very eager to

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<v Speaker 1>improve their marriage, he missed feeling close to his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and he believed that she was genuinely wanting to rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship, and when she suggested playing this game, he

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<v Speaker 1>agreed without hesitation. On Sunday, March twenty third, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three, Sheila and Paul spent most of the day

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<v Speaker 1>running errands and visiting family. They had lunch with Paul's

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<v Speaker 1>mother in White Plains and returned to their Pleasantville condo

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon. By all appearances, it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>calm and usually pleasant day for the couple that had

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<v Speaker 1>grown distant. They talked easily, shared small moments, and showed

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<v Speaker 1>signs with no conflict in them. But later Paul would

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<v Speaker 1>describe it as one of the better days that he

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<v Speaker 1>had in those months with his wife. They were together,

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<v Speaker 1>they were living, they were existing. Now it was some

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<v Speaker 1>time around four pm. Sheila reminded Paul about this trust

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<v Speaker 1>game that she had mentioned earlier in the week, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she gathered what she said she needed for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>A blindfold that she made from some black pantyhose, a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of handcuffs, and a heavy wooden chair with sturdy rungs.

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<v Speaker 1>They set it up in a spare bedroom that had

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<v Speaker 1>carpeted flooring. Now Sheila went first. Paul handcuffed her wrists

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<v Speaker 1>to the chair and tied a blindfold around her eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>He pressed various objects from the house against her body

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<v Speaker 1>and asked her to guess what they were. Now, they

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<v Speaker 1>used various items from the home, like a camera and

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<v Speaker 1>a box and whatever else they could find, and after

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<v Speaker 1>several rounds, Sheila correctly identified most of the items. And

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<v Speaker 1>when it was over, Paul removed the handcuffs and the blindfold,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was Paul's turn. Sheila secured his wrist

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<v Speaker 1>to the chair and blindfolded him. She began the same process.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul guessed most of the items correctly too, as they

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<v Speaker 1>were pressed against his skin. And as the game continued,

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila left the room several times in searching for some

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<v Speaker 1>objects to use, of course, and at one point Paul

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<v Speaker 1>heard her in the kitchen, and when she returned to him,

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<v Speaker 1>she told him that the next object would be the

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<v Speaker 1>last one. Now Paul, still tied to the chair, was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the last object to be pressed against his skin.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt his wife, Sheila, begin to position herself with

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<v Speaker 1>her legs on either side of his thighs as he

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<v Speaker 1>sat cuffed in the chair. Then he suddenly felt an

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<v Speaker 1>intense blow to the chest. The impact was so powerful

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<v Speaker 1>that it knocked the breath right out of him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he heard Sheila scream. The moments later, he felt another

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<v Speaker 1>violent strike right near the same spot. Now, Paul, remember

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<v Speaker 1>was still blindfolded in handcuffed to this chair. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see what was happening to him. He struggled to breathe

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<v Speaker 1>and felt a very immediate severe pain. Sheila told him

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<v Speaker 1>that she thought she had hurt him accidentally, and she

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that, you know, she must have accidentally fell or

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<v Speaker 1>tripped and caused some injury. And when Paul insisted she

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<v Speaker 1>removed the blindfold, she eventually did, and he saw her

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<v Speaker 1>standing over him, panicking and disoriented, and his shirt was

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<v Speaker 1>covered in blood as it was seeping down to the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Sheila.

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<v Speaker 1>Had stabbed him two times in the chest with a

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<v Speaker 1>pairing knife accidentally quote accidentally, according to her, But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really understand this. Still, he didn't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>had happened. All he knew was that his wife had

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<v Speaker 1>somehow hurt him, and he assumed that, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>in fact an accident. Why would he think otherwise. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila said she could not find the handcuff key as

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<v Speaker 1>he asked to be uncuffed, so instead Paul just told

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<v Speaker 1>her to break the wrung of the chair, and after hesitating,

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<v Speaker 1>she did so, freeing his arms. Now he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up, but collapsed from the pain and the weakness,

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<v Speaker 1>and he began sweating heavily and felt his heart racing.

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<v Speaker 1>He repeatedly told Sheila to call nine one one, but instead,

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<v Speaker 1>when she went into the kitchen, she returned with a

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<v Speaker 1>glass of juice, telling him to drink it. When he refused,

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<v Speaker 1>she eventually pulled out her phone and appeared to make

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<v Speaker 1>a call. While pacing through the apartment, she told Paul

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<v Speaker 1>she was speaking to the emergency services and that help

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<v Speaker 1>was on the way. She told Paul eventually that emergency

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<v Speaker 1>responders were short staffed and it would take twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty minutes before they would arrive at the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this explanation made very little sense, but Paul was

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<v Speaker 1>in too much pain to argue otherwise. He began to

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<v Speaker 1>feel himself fading out, and at one point Sheila offered

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<v Speaker 1>him night quill, suggesting it would help him feel better,

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<v Speaker 1>but he pushed it away, and Paul he realized he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait for the ambulance. He didn't have twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes or thirty minutes, however long it would take for

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<v Speaker 1>them to arrive. He told Sheila that she needed to

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<v Speaker 1>drive him to the hospital, and she needed to do

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately now. She agreed, and after slowly helping him

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<v Speaker 1>into a jacket, she brought him to the car and

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<v Speaker 1>placed him in the back seat. Instead of taking the

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<v Speaker 1>direct route to Westchester Medical Center, Sheila drove slowly along

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<v Speaker 1>a secondary route. She made unnecessary turns and delays in

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<v Speaker 1>the path she was driving, and Paul became increasingly alarmed

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<v Speaker 1>at what was going on. He's slowly starting to think,

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<v Speaker 1>why is she doing this? Why is she taking so long?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is she taking these routes? And finally, when she

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<v Speaker 1>got to the hospital grounds, she drove right by the

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<v Speaker 1>emergency entrance to the er and drove behind the building

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<v Speaker 1>into a largely empty parking lot near the rear at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness, gracious, this woman doesn't have a heart.

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<v Speaker 2>She is just like Puer.

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<v Speaker 1>Evil she is. She's essentially trying to prolong this and

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<v Speaker 1>hope that he died.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, After stopping the car, Sheila dropped the keys on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor and was pretending to search for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>when she finally exited the vehicle after allegedly finding the keys,

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<v Speaker 1>she walked around to Paul's door on the passenger side

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<v Speaker 1>in the back seat and opened it, but instead of

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<v Speaker 1>helping him out, she lunged at him holding a knife,

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<v Speaker 1>and she stabbed him in the chest once again. What

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<v Speaker 1>and as she raised the knife for another strike, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>reacted instinctively. He knew now that what had happened wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an accident. He knew she was attacking him, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>He knew that his wife was batshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy exactly, and as this strike was coming down this

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the fourth stab, he blocked her arm

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<v Speaker 1>and shoved her away and forced himself out of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>despite losing blood rapidly. He grabbed the blade with his

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<v Speaker 1>it aside and staggered towards two people exiting a nearby building.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Sheila followed him, and she was pleading with him

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<v Speaker 1>to say this was just an accident. Just please just

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<v Speaker 1>tell him it was an accident. She told him that

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<v Speaker 1>if he told the truth, she was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in so much trouble. And when the bystanders reached Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>they immediately saw the severity of his injuries and called

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<v Speaker 1>for emergency assistance. Sheila ran from the scene right away,

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<v Speaker 1>but police caught up with her a very short distance

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<v Speaker 1>away and placed her under arrest. Paul was rushed into

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<v Speaker 1>emergency surgery, and surgeons discovered that the earlier stabbings had

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<v Speaker 1>punctured his heart and damaged major blood vessels. One wound

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<v Speaker 1>had even nicked an artery, causing blood to fill his

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, because yeah, I was thinking this was not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna end well, like just listening to the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>blood and stuff he's losing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she prolonged it, and if she was able to

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<v Speaker 1>prolong it anymore, he likely would have died before reaching

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. And then she just freaking like fled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, she ran.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I cannot even believe that someone's just terrible

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<v Speaker 2>as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, after Sheila was arrested outside the parking lot and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to run on March twenty third, two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>she was taken into police custody and brought in for questioning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, investigators were still uncertain whether Paul would

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<v Speaker 1>survive at all. His condition in hospital was very critical,

422
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<v Speaker 1>and doctors had warned that he might not make it

423
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<v Speaker 1>through the night. Police were fully aware that if Paul

424
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<v Speaker 1>did die, Sheila would be facing a murder charge rather

425
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<v Speaker 1>than a tempted murder. Detectives began asking Sheila to explain

426
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<v Speaker 1>what had happened inside the apartment and during the drive

427
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital as well. Now she appeared calm and

428
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>cooperative at first, but her story immediately raised a lot

429
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of concerns. She told officers that she and Paul had

430
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<v Speaker 1>been playing a consensual bedroom game, which they were and

431
00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>during that he was accidentally injured. According to her initial account,

432
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:29.319
<v Speaker 1>she claimed that she had been holding a pairing knife

433
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and somehow lost her balance, causing it to puncture into

434
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<v Speaker 1>his chest.

435
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't make sense to literally anyone.

436
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>No, and she insisted that she never meant to hurt

437
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<v Speaker 1>him and that everything was basically an unfortunate accident. And

438
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>yet doesn't make sense. You might might be able to

439
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<v Speaker 1>get away.

440
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<v Speaker 2>With saying that once, yeah, one stab wound, but like at.

441
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<v Speaker 1>Three right, yeah, but like oh I fell, Oh I

442
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 1>fell again. Oh we're in the parking lot of the hospital.

443
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh I fell, still holding the knife, Like what the fuck? Okay,

444
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<v Speaker 1>So that's essentially what she's trying to say, and the

445
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>police weren't buying it. Now, She also told police that

446
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>she immediately called nine one one and followed their instructions.

447
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.759
<v Speaker 1>She said emergency services were delayed and that she had

448
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 1>done her best to help Paul while they were waiting. Now,

449
00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>when they asked why she had not driven directly to

450
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<v Speaker 1>emergency service and the entrance right, she went right past

451
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the emergency entrance, and she claimed, well, because she drove past,

452
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 1>she was confused. She didn't know where to go.

453
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's generally pretty obvious. It usually actually, if

454
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<v Speaker 2>you're actually driving right past it, you're gonna be able

455
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<v Speaker 2>to tell that, Okay, this is the emergency entrance.

456
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but basically she's trying to portray herself as like

457
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<v Speaker 1>panicking and frightened over what happened, which is why she

458
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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it. Oh my god, even though it would

459
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<v Speaker 1>have been obvious.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Usually it's lit up and it says emergency.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very safety kind of oriented thing. It's

462
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<v Speaker 1>like blaring lights like for people in emergency situations, so

463
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to find to notice. Yeah. Now, when investigators

464
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.160
<v Speaker 1>asked for more details about the nine one one call

465
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that she said she made, Sheila gave different time estimates

466
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<v Speaker 1>for when she supposedly made the call, and well, it

467
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was very gray on how she described this call, it happened,

468
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and how it occurred. She also struggled to explain why

469
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 1>she offered Paul juice and cold medicine instead of any

470
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<v Speaker 1>sort of first aid. I mean, that was her first

471
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<v Speaker 1>aid while waiting for medical aid to come.

472
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<v Speaker 2>I can kind of understand the juice just slightly, really

473
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, because I don't know, maybe she's thinking

474
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>he's losing a lot of blood, He's going to need

475
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:36.039
<v Speaker 2>like some sugar or something. I don't know, I don't know.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Just playing Devil's advocate, I can kind of, I mean

477
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<v Speaker 2>five percent understand that maybe.

478
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as someone who was a previous first aid attendant,

479
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it makes no sense to me. But hey, if you

480
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>say so, all right, I'll let you have that one.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Now.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, police were already reviewing evidence from the scene itself.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Kay, I'm just going to interrupt you. I think why

484
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>it's understandable is because when you give blood, right, and

485
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes people faint in there, Like I've given blood

486
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 2>and someone fainted and then they kind of like come

487
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>to and they're given juice because they just lost a

488
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:16.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of blood and like they're trying to replenish them.

489
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<v Speaker 2>So I get this as a totally different scenario one

490
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten percent. But it's like, that's why I'm saying,

491
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I can five percent understand that is a.

492
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Controlled environment though controlled bleeding. That's not a Oh I

493
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>nicked your artery with a knife and you are actively

494
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 1>bleeding out on the floor begging for nine one one.

495
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Here's a cup of juice, Like, are you fucking kidding me?

496
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>You're just over your laughing that I could even understand

497
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<v Speaker 2>this remotely.

498
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit blown away, Yes, a little bit

499
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>taken aback if you will. But anyways, Hey, I play

500
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a devil's advocate all the time. I'm not going to

501
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 1>argue on that. What you're saying does make sense. It

502
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense to me, but it makes sense that

503
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 1>someone might not know what to do and that might

504
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>be a reflex, So i'll give you that. Now. Police

505
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.279
<v Speaker 1>had recovered Sheila's phone from the parking lot where it

506
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 1>had been dropped during the struggle, and when they examined

507
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>its call history, they found no record of any nine

508
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 1>one one call.

509
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was curious, No, she.

510
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Didn't call nine one one. Instead though police found something else.

511
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>The phone showed repeated calls and voicemail attempts to one

512
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>other number that belonged to Nelson Sessler. And it don't

513
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>mean just a history from like before. I mean, while

514
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Paul was at home bleeding, she was trying to call Nelson.

515
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I am just fired up with this one,

516
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 2>because that's fucked.

517
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Up, that is. And when confronted with this, at first,

518
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>she just flat out denied it, and then she claimed

519
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>she must have accidentally died the wrong number, and later

520
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 1>again she said she couldn't remember who she called. Like

521
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>her explanations were changing constantly, and each new version it

522
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 1>just contradicted the one before it. Now detectives were speaking

523
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 1>with Paul at the hospital too. Now, despite his injuries,

524
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he was fully alert and very cooperative. He told investigators

525
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 1>exactly what had happened. He described being blindfolded, handcuffed, you know,

526
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>with this consensual game with couples at home sort of say,

527
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 1>and then being stabbed twice and denied medical help, then

528
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>driven in circles and stabbed again in the parking lot

529
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>when he was on the far end of the hospital grounds.

530
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 1>He explained how Sheila pretended to call for help and

531
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 1>tried to convince him to lie about the attack when

532
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>he was finally on the doorstep of emergency services. His

533
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 1>account was detailed and matched the physical evidence on hand precisely.

534
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>The location of the wounds, the knife recovered nearby, the

535
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>dropped cell phone, and witness statements all supported Paul's version

536
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of events. It was clear that Sheila was lying through

537
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>her teeth.

538
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it almost kind of impressive that he was able

539
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 2>to remember all this stuff too? Hey, like he's in

540
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>a very bad state.

541
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>He is, but he was very much so conscious this

542
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>entire time.

543
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, But I'm just thinking he could almost

544
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>have been in shock and not even have remembered exactly

545
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>what was going on, or thinking he was delusional. But

546
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm very glad that he remembers it so clearly definitely.

547
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Now. Detectives then change their strategy at this point. Instead

548
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 1>of treating the situation as a possible accident, as Sheila claimed,

549
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 1>they began confronting her directly with the evidence that supported otherwise.

550
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>They informed her that Paul had survived surgery and that

551
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in fact expected to live at this point,

552
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>which removed any possibility that she could continue portraying this

553
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>as an accident or a tragic misunderstanding that had ended

554
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 1>in a death, or anything right. And when she learned

555
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that Paul was alive, her demeanor changed. She became more defensive,

556
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and she even suggested that she'd been in emotional distress

557
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and began going down the very classic path of well

558
00:29:57.880 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe I blacked out.

559
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh we've heard that before.

560
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>All too many times. Regardless how she defended herself, though

561
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>she maintained that she never intended to kill him, But

562
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>investigators knew they were dealing with a deliberate attack, not

563
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 1>an accident, and Sheila was formally charged with attempted murder. Soon,

564
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>detectives began conducting a full review of Sheila's background, personal relationships,

565
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>communication records. Now, this is obviously very standard procedure in

566
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>major violent crime cases, especially when suspects behavior suggests long

567
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>term planning or hidden motives, and investigators were no longer

568
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>looking only at what happened on March twenty third, two

569
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and three. They were also trying to understand whether

570
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:47.599
<v Speaker 1>this attack that a larger sort of pattern. One of

571
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the first things police examined in detail was Sheila's cell

572
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>phone investigators analyzed months of callogus, voicemails records, and saved contacts.

573
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>It was during this review that they noticed just how

574
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>frequently she had been communicating with this Nelson Sessler. Now.

575
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 1>The sheer volume and timing of the calls indicated to

576
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>them clearly that their relationship was very significant. Now. Sheila

577
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>initially minimized their relationship when asked about it. Of course,

578
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 1>she described him as a former coworker and casual acquaintance. However,

579
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the phone records show frequent late night calls, long conversations,

580
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and repeated attempts to reach him on the day of

581
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Paul stabbing too, which directly contradicts her claims of just

582
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 1>being casual coworkers and that sort of thing. So investigators

583
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>then contacted Nelson himself and asked him to come in

584
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>for questioning. During this interview, Nelson acknowledged that he had

585
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 1>known Sheila through work at Purdue Pharma. He also admitted

586
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 1>that he had been involved in a romantic relationship with her.

587
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>He explained that he had started seeing her before becoming

588
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 1>serious with Anna Lisa Rimando, and that he eventually ended

589
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>things with Sheila to focus on the relationship with Analisa.

590
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It was then that he learned Shila was married, and

591
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 1>he said he didn't know that Sheila was married at all.

592
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>He had no clue this entire time. Now, up until

593
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that point, the two thousand and two murder of Anna

594
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Rimando had been treated as a very isolated crime.

595
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>The investigation had focused primarily on her boyfriend, workplace contacts,

596
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and possible random intruders. No suspect had ever been charged

597
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 1>in the case, and it had gradually gone cold. But

598
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 1>now while police were learning that the woman accused of

599
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to kill her husband had previously been romantically involved

600
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>with Anna Lisa's boyfriend or fiance if they were engaged,

601
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they were, and that connection immediately raised

602
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>some serious questions in red flags. So detectives reviewed the

603
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>original murder file and compared it to what they knew

604
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>about Sheila's behavior. They noted that Sheila had been working

605
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at Purdue at the same time as Annelie and Nelson,

606
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 1>as well, she would have known their schedules, routines, and

607
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>relationship status. They also learned that Sheila had been closely

608
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>following the love triangle involving Nelson and Alisa, and another

609
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.279
<v Speaker 1>woman often discussed in detail with her husband as Melissa,

610
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but this before was of course just gossip. Now, however,

611
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>it appeared more personal and filled the jealous motive. Police

612
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>also learned that Sheila had taken a long lunch break

613
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>on the day of Analisa's death. Security records show she

614
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 1>left work at ten fifty three am and did not

615
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 1>return until one fifty three pm, and this time window

616
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>aligned with the time of her murder. Investigators began to

617
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>re examine her movements on November eighth, two thousand and two,

618
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and looked deeper into this and they compared badge swipes,

619
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the records for parking and phone pings, and witness statements.

620
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>They mapped out her location during all of these hours,

621
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<v Speaker 1>and the results show that she had both the time

622
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and the opportunity to travel to Analisa's condo and return

623
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 1>without raising any sort of suspicion. They also reviewed the

624
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>anonymous nine to one one call that led police to

625
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the crime scene. Voice analysis experts were consulted, and while

626
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>not definitive on its own, the analysis suggested similarities between

627
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the caller's voice and Sheila's. Forensic specialists also revisited physical

628
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>evidence from the condo two, which involved a complete re

629
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 1>examination of the physical evidence collected from there. This included clothing,

630
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>blood samples, household surfaces, and items from the bathroom and kitchen.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Many of these materials have been preserved in storage but

632
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 1>had never fully been analyzed. Using newer testing methods, forensic

633
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 1>specialists focused particular attention on the bathroom sink area. During

634
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the original investigation, technicians had documented small amounts of blood

635
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>found on the faucet hand and surrounding surfaces. At the time,

636
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>these stains were believed to belong to the attacker, who

637
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 1>had likely cut themselves during the struggle and then attempted

638
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 1>to wash off blood before leaving. One tiny blood droplet

639
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 1>on the faucet handle was selected for renewed testing. Advances

640
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in DNA technology now made it possible to extract usable

641
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>genetic material from extremely small samples, and laboratory analysis revealed

642
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that that droplet contained a mixture of DNA a mixed

643
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>DNA profile. Part of the sample matched Anne Lisa Raymondo

644
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and the other part matched Sheila Davilou Boom.

645
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Hey. Yeah, if she didn't do this to Paul, then

646
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>she would probably have never gotten.

647
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Caught exactly she probably wouldn't have, So this meant that

648
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Sheila's blood was present inside the victim's apartment, specifically in

649
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom where investigators believed the attacker had attempted to

650
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 1>clean up. But the thing is, Sheila had consistently claimed

651
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that she had never, and I mean never been inside

652
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>an Elisa's home, so according to her, there was no

653
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>legitimate reason for her DNA to be present there what soever.

654
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Investigators began working to confirm that the blood sample found

655
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>containing Sheila's DNA could not be explained by contamination. Since

656
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 1>she said she's never been in that apartment whatsoever, they

657
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 1>needed to ensure that it wasn't contamination that placed it there.

658
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>They reviewed the handling of the evidence from the moment

659
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it was collected, through every stage of storage and testing.

660
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Chain of custody records showed no irregularities, and independent analysis

661
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 1>confirmed the validity of the results. At the same time,

662
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 1>police went over the timeline of Sheila's movements on the

663
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 1>day of the murder, and still it pointed towards her

664
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>having a window of time to do this. Investigators also

665
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>revisited witnesses interviews from two thousand and two. Several coworkers

666
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 1>remembered Sheila being unusually quiet or withdrawn after Analisa's death,

667
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>which isn't unusual, but others even recalled her quickly becoming

668
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>emotionally supportive for Nelson, and at the time, again, it

669
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't suspicious behavior to anyone, but in hindsight, that's when

670
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>it suggested a very calculated involvement.

671
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, she's good, Hey, like she really did play her cards. Well, oh,

672
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm to a degree, to a degree, so I'm glad

673
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 2>though that this is all being discovered. But I do

674
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>feel like she I mean, she spent her whole life

675
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of being that.

676
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Way, that's true, But I like, I don't think she

677
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 1>played her cards the best. I think luck was on

678
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>her side for a lot of it, too, because all

679
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>it would have taken was for Nelson to divulge that

680
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he was in this love triangle earlier on, and she

681
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>would have been immediately on that suspect list. But for

682
00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, personal or otherwise, we don't know, Nelson and

683
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything, or she was left out of the picture.

684
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Did he even think it wasn't of importance or there

685
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>was no way she would have done something like this.

686
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Whatever, reason he had for not bringing her name up

687
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 1>and letting police know that there's potential other people you

688
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 1>might want to look at because of connections, not because

689
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>of you know what. I think she could have done it,

690
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but this person's connected. At least. He just didn't tell

691
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the full picture and that left her in a blind spot,

692
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 1>which was pure fucking luck.

693
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I guess if he would have said her name,

694
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it would have pretty easily been solved.

695
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, phone records further supported this new developing theory

696
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that Sheila was in fact responsible. She had been in

697
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 1>frequent contact with Nelson both before and after the murder,

698
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 1>but after Annealsa's death, the volume of communication increased, showing

699
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>not only that she had begun seeing him shortly afterwards,

700
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but that she was in fact still married to Paul

701
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>while doing this. So to prosecutors, it's seeing that Sheila

702
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>had become obsessed with Nelson, viewed Anna Lisa as an obstacle,

703
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>decided to remove her, and after succeeding, she attempted to

704
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 1>eliminate her own husband as well, who was another obstacle,

705
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>so she could pursue the relationship without any sort of

706
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 1>ongoing complications. But when that attempt failed. Her double life

707
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and murderous ways were finally exposed, and she had nowhere

708
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>else to go. Over several years, detectives, prosecutors, and forensic

709
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 1>experts worked together to refine the case. They prepared expert

710
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>testimony on DNA analysis, voice identification, behavioral patterns, and they

711
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>gathered records, reconstructed timelines, and re interviewed key witnesses. They

712
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>did their due diligence as best as they could, and

713
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 1>by the time Sheila went to trial for the murder

714
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of an Alisa Raymondo, while she was already serving a

715
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 1>twenty five year sentence in New York. You see, in

716
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four, she'd already been on trial in

717
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Westchester County for what she did to her well ex

718
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>husband Paul. Since he survived and there were witnesses in

719
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>that parking lot of the hospital, it was a pretty

720
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>open and shut case. So by this time she was

721
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>already serving her time for the conviction of attempted murder

722
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of Paul Christo's.

723
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>She got twenty five years for that. Hey, she got

724
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years for that's I'm glad. That's impressive. I

725
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>was thinking it was going to be of less.

726
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 1>No, she got twenty five years, which is phenomenal. Yeah,

727
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And now this case, however, it was essentially going to

728
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>determine whether she would ever be released from prison or not. Okay,

729
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 1>because if we have this twenty five years, if there's

730
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>anything on top of it, it's likely that she's going

731
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 1>to freaking die in jail, behind bars and never be released.

732
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

733
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But if she gets away with it and is not convicted,

734
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>then potentially it could be twenty five years and then out.

735
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>She's not going to get away with it. You don't think,

736
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 2>no way, There's no way.

737
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 1>So the murder trial began in twenty twelve in Stamford, Connecticut.

738
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Prosecutors presented a detailed timeline showing Sheila's movements on November eighth,

739
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two, supported by Purdue Pharmer's security records

740
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and witness testimony. These records established that she had left

741
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>work at ten fifty three am and did not return

742
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 1>until one fifty three PM, a window that aligned with

743
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the estimated time of Ana Lisa's killing. The prosecution's central

744
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>evidence focused on three points, the anonymous nine one one call,

745
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the blood found at the crime scene, and Sheila's lack

746
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of any credible alibi. Audio experts testified that the voice

747
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 1>in the nine one one recording matched Sheila's voice patterns

748
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in tone speech habits. But while the voice identification was

749
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 1>not precise as DNA testing was, the prosecutors argued it

750
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 1>was a strongly supportive piece for their case when combined

751
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>with the other evidence. May not match her exactly necessarily,

752
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 1>saying she could be hiding her voice or changing it

753
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in some sort of way, but when you look at

754
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 1>the big picture, it makes sense now. Forensic specialists also

755
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 1>explained the DNA analysis in very much so a lot

756
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of detail. They told the jury how the tiny blood

757
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>droplet on the bathroom faucet contained both Analisa and Sheila's

758
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>genetic material. Independent laboratories even confirmed its match, and experts

759
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.199
<v Speaker 1>testified that contamination was extremely unlikely given the proper handling

760
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:33.559
<v Speaker 1>procedures and storage records they had. Prosecutors also emphasized that

761
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Sheila had no legitimate reason to be inside Analisa's apartment.

762
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 1>In fact, she had denied ever visiting that condo at all.

763
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:45.119
<v Speaker 1>She was never in there before, no witnesses placed her

764
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>there socially, there was no professional connection that would explained

765
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>her presence there, yet the presence of her blood at

766
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 1>the murder scene, right where investigators believe the murderer would

767
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>have cleaned up, was yet present. This evidence directly contradicted

768
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 1>her her statements and in their mind, proved that Sheila

769
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was lying. Phone records and testimonies showed that Sheila was

770
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 1>emotionally and romantically involved with Nelson, and that they had

771
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:16.119
<v Speaker 1>resumed their relationship shortly after Aneals's death. The state argued

772
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that this clearly demonstrated Sheila's motive and intent, and when

773
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 1>it came time for the defense, they focused on attacking

774
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the reliability of the forensic evidence. Sheila claimed the blood

775
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>sample must have been contaminated. She disputed the voice analysis

776
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and argued that it was subjective. She maintained that she

777
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>was not present at the crime scene and suggested that

778
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>investigators had rushed to judgment after her conviction in New

779
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>York against Paul. At one point, Sheila represented herself in

780
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>parts of the proceedings and personally questioned witnesses, including Nelson

781
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and Paul. This was an unusual decision that drew a

782
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of attention, but it did very little to weaken

783
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the prosecution's case. At all. After several weeks of testimony,

784
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 1>the jury deliberated and returned with a verdict. Sheila Davlou

785
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was found guilty and convicted of first degree murder.

786
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she was.

787
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>In April of twenty twelve, she was sentenced to fifty

788
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>years in prison in Connecticut.

789
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>These are some dang long sentences, the good ones, yeah now.

790
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Because of her New York and Connecticut sentences, they were

791
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>ordered to run consecutively, not concurrently, so she would first

792
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>complete her twenty five year sentence for attempting to kill

793
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Paul Christos and only after that which she began serving

794
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the fifty year sentence for Anna Lisa's murder. In practical terms,

795
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the rerually meant that she would likely spend the rest

796
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 1>of her life in prison, because she had a total

797
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>of seventy five years to serve. When she was sentenced

798
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, the legal system closed the final chapter

799
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>of the case. But for the people who had been

800
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>affected by her actions, well, the consequences didn't end with

801
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a verdict. Annelissa Raymundo's family, the loss was permanent and

802
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>very irreplaceable. She'd been a successful pharmaceutical researcher with advanced degrees,

803
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a stable career, and a long term plan with Nelson Sessler.

804
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Friends and relatives described her as disciplined, generous, and deeply

805
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>committed to her family. Her death didn't come as a

806
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 1>result of random violence or chance. She was targeted by

807
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>someone that she'd once trusted as a coworker. Remember she

808
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>opened her condo door because she recognized and trusted the

809
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>voice on the other side. Her parents, siblings, and extended

810
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>family were forced to live with the knowledge that her

811
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>life had been taken because of a jealous romantic rivalry

812
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that she herself never even knew existed. Court proceedings stretched

813
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 1>off for nearly over a decade, prolonging their grief and

814
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 1>forced them to repeatedly relive the circumstances of her death.

815
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Paul Christos, on the other hand, well he had survived,

816
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>but his life was permanently changed. Physically. He endured open

817
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 1>heart surgery, extended hospitalization, and months of recovery. The stab

818
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>wound that nicked's heart and damaged his lungs could easily

819
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 1>have been fatal. Doctors had even stated that if help

820
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 1>arrived even slightly later, he likely would not have survived. Emotionally,

821
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the impact was just as severe. Paul had trusted his

822
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>wife completely and without any question. He'd accepted years of

823
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>strange behavior, unexplained absences, and humiliating requests to erase himself

824
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.599
<v Speaker 1>from his own life. He had believed her explanations and

825
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 1>defended her when others might have questioned them. Learning that

826
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>she had planned and attempted to kill him shattered him.

827
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, how would you ever trust another soul again?

828
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know now. In interviews and court testimony, Paul

829
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>described struggling with long term anxiety, difficulty forming relationships, and

830
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 1>lingering lingering trauma over all those same things. How would

831
00:46:59.280 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you trust anyone?

832
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't. I mean, I wouldn't blame him if

833
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 2>he just never did.

834
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair enough now. Meanwhile, Nelson Sessler was left to

835
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 1>reckon with his own role in the events. He lost

836
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 1>his fiance in a brutal murder. He later learned that

837
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the woman who had comforted him during his grief was

838
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>responsible for that very killing, and he also faced public

839
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<v Speaker 1>scrutiny for his involvement in overlapping relationships and his failure

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<v Speaker 1>to disclose Sheila's existence to police early in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he was never charged in wrongdoing. The case had

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<v Speaker 1>followed him for years. For investigators and prosecutors, Sheila's case

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00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 1>became a prime example of how easily complex personal relationships

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<v Speaker 1>can obscure violent crimes. Early misdirection, withheld information and subtle

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00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>manipulation delayed justice, and it took far too long to

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00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>uncover the truth. Sheila Davilou has continued to deny her

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00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>responsible for Annalisea's murder. She's filed appeals and given interviews

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<v Speaker 1>asserting that the evidence was flawed and that she was

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<v Speaker 1>wrongfully convicted, but the courts have repeatedly upheld the verdicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back, investigators and psychologists who studied the case have

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<v Speaker 1>pointed to a consistent pattern in her behavior. When relationships

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<v Speaker 1>no longer fit the narrative she wants, she attempts to

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00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 1>remove any obstacle rather than confronted, and when deception failed,

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00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>while she turned to violence, and when violence ultimately failed,

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00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>she simply denied responsibility. Had Paul Christos not survived, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say if Sheila would have been linked to

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<v Speaker 1>Annalisea's murder at all. The case may have remained unsolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Two deaths might have been written off as unrelated tragedies.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she wouldn't have served time if Paul died. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she would have been able to play off this incident

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<v Speaker 1>as an accident like she hoped, with medical teams rushing

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<v Speaker 1>out to the parking lot with a grieving wife holding

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<v Speaker 1>her dead husband in her arms. Instead, one man's survival

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<v Speaker 1>exposed the full scope of what had happened and who

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila really was. This case highlights just how deadly obsession, manipulation,

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<v Speaker 1>and secrecy can become once it escalates beyond your control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a case that is exactly remembered for sensationalism

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<v Speaker 1>or mystery, but instead for the quiet, methodical way a

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<v Speaker 1>double life unraveled and revealed its cost simply because one

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<v Speaker 1>person wanted attention and was looking elsewhere to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the story of Sheila Davilou. What a bit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were going to end it with that sentiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a bit, okay. I It's sometimes hard for

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00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>me to fathom that people, when they're so obviously guilty,

875
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<v Speaker 2>are still just like I didn't do it and doing

876
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>appeals and shit. It's like, at some point, girl, like

877
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<v Speaker 2>you did it, like just I know, just admit it really, Oh.

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00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I must have blacked out. Oh I didn't do that.

879
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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. It's not me. You're wrong, not me, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you seriously?

881
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

882
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Like literally the evidence everything shows like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, I mean, I guess what else do they

884
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<v Speaker 2>really have to do while they're serving time? You know, yeah,

885
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 2>might as well, I guess just waste people's time. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if there's any hope of you ever having

888
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<v Speaker 1>another life, I mean, that's deny deny, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I sure hope that Paul has a good life

890
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<v Speaker 2>now because he or I mean, I know, he's obviously

891
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 2>going to struggle forever, but like he survived for a reason, right,

892
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we can only help hope that he does

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<v Speaker 2>find someone that is deserving of him and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's super kind. I really hope that Sheila and what

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<v Speaker 1>she did to him didn't change that kindness in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Yeah, this story is just it's unbelievable actually.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but like seriously, Okay, I'm going to go

898
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 1>into like a fucking metaphor here. Paul had like the

899
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>kindest fucking heart and she literally scarred his heart. Yeah,

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00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he had a heart of gold and now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a literal scar.

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00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it literally and physically really yeah both Yeah.

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00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like how when you got that, you're like,

904
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, Yeah, because she did.

905
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 2>She pierced his fricking heart.

906
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she broke his fucking heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh then I could sob. Now my eyes are watering.

908
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

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00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 1>That man deserves the world.

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00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I think that this is going to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of my top cases for a while. Yeah, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>mind blowing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wild it's a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to put it, you did very least. You did

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<v Speaker 2>a good job, Like, holy shit, you just took us

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<v Speaker 2>to the fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know I took you to the fair,

918
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.159
<v Speaker 1>threw you on a ride, didn't buckle up your seatbelt,

919
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<v Speaker 1>and didn't tell you that it's a roller coaster that

920
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<v Speaker 1>goes upside down and three loop to loops and exceeds

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<v Speaker 1>sixty miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Actually that's kind of how I feel. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I just got off of that. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. I don't know if there's ever roller coaches

925
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<v Speaker 1>that exceed that speed. I just pulled a random speed

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<v Speaker 1>out of my ass. But I think you get the point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also want to highlight one more point, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's we are extremely grateful that you are here listening

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<v Speaker 1>to our show. We're an independent podcast. It's us who

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<v Speaker 1>research right record all of it. There's no big corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's us living in our tiny home doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>we have the support of people like you who listen

933
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<v Speaker 1>to the show all the way to the very end,

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<v Speaker 1>like right now. It means the world to us and

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<v Speaker 1>it does a lot for us to keep being able

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<v Speaker 1>to do this going forward. So thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we really really appreciate every single one of you

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<v Speaker 2>that's here.

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<v Speaker 1>We do. And if you want to check out more

940
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<v Speaker 1>for our show, we have Patreon, we have social media's

941
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 1>all the links are in the description of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to give us a review, that too

943
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 1>goes a long way. It shows other people that, hey,

944
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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is a great show, you like it,

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<v Speaker 1>what your honest thoughts are, and we'd appreciate reviews as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes, like I said, a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, Yeah, so sure does. So. I think it's your

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<v Speaker 2>turn though to to you know this off.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you got to get me there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well done.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounded a little dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's horrid. Okay, anyway, thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super awkward, and until next time, stay wicked.
