1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Here sits. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,839 Speaker 1: Your source of information and analysis to help you win 4 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:18,199 your fantasy hockey league. Block off hot A step hit on, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,120 stay lock. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: Live once again. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,839 Speaker 2: It's Jesse Severe fan Tracks, It's Victor Nuno a VP ringside. 9 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:35,280 It's Fantasy Hockey time and that means we got to 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,960 talk about it. Victor, how you doing today? 11 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Jesse. 12 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:42,759 Speaker 3: I'm so excited that they're actually games back on TV 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,600 to watch and so I'm doing great. 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,119 Speaker 4: How are you doing? 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,119 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. 16 00:00:47,119 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Man. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: Beautiful fall here in Wisconsin. We're going to get those 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,520 two weeks of fall that we really enjoy before it 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,079 gets cold and rainy and miserable and all the leaves 20 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:59,520 are wet. So yeah, I can't complain. I can't complain. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,799 I just preemptively complained about the future. But I can't complain. Victor, 22 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:07,599 this has been your weather report, as we like to 23 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:10,879 give in all the introductions, and that is the case. 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,480 There is not, in fact a weather report channel in 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,200 our discord. Perhaps we should make one, but I don't 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,519 think it would be very relevant to hockey. There are 27 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:21,920 mostly things that are relevant to hockey in there is 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,319 what I mean, and you can check them out by 29 00:01:24,439 --> 00:01:26,959 joining our discord, talking with a few hundred of your 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,280 favorite fantasy hockey friends and just chatting hockey all the time, 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,760 asking questions, getting ideas from the high mind. And to 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,879 do that, all you need to do is get a 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,959 link from us. That's how discords work. You get that 34 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:43,680 by emailing us Fantasyhockeylife at gmail dot com or hitting 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,120 Victor or myself up on x at Fanhockey Life at 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Victor nugnio twelve. Victor, what are the other things that 37 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:54,159 people ought to know about as we get into the show. 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,959 Speaker 3: If you want some extra content, you want to support 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,000 the show, then go over to patreon dot com fear 40 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:02,760 Hockey Life. You can check out all the bonus content there. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,359 You can be a lifer and get all the patron cast, 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,439 patron Priority channel, you can plain in the tidy the 43 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:13,240 Tiered Dynasty. You can increase to the top level and 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 get access to the player cards, the ranks, the lists, 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,000 all the extra cool features including getting roster doctors and 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,120 personalized attention. There's all kinds of great stuff that you 47 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:28,879 can get. Check out our Patreon at penttreon dot com, 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,840 slash Fantacy Hockey Life and thanks so much for any 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,680 support you want to offer. 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: And in fact, one of the things you get, of 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,759 course is the tidy, the tiered dynasty leagues, and today 52 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:42,439 is going to be all about that tidy, Victor, don't 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,719 I haven't made a trade yet this year in the tidy, 54 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:47,759 and I need to make myself a dang trade. Maybe 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,599 the trade will have happened in the interregnum between the 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,439 second we're recording this and the second that you're recording. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,719 I'm not going to be here though for it. It's 58 00:02:57,759 --> 00:02:59,919 going to be you and the Admiral right after the 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,800 break talking tidy trades. 60 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: All right, Time to talk some tidy cakes, and of 61 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,960 course that means we get to bring back our tidy Admiral. 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 I believe Ryan, you have had some shore leave to 63 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:21,400 take care of some fun business. How you doing, my friend? 64 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Hey, yes, Victor, it's been a busy summer for me. 65 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:27,159 And yeah, for those who don't know, I got married 66 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:29,879 over the summer the Admiral. The Admiral needs to take 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,680 a little bit of a short leave as you said 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,080 from the ship, but we're setting out to see here 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,439 on the Tidy Take segment and we are back and 70 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:39,319 better than ever and Victor. Before we get started here, 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,479 I want to give a quick shout out to a 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,479 new factor here to consider for the Tidy League, and 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,719 that is the Tidy Commissioner Team. But if you listen 74 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:49,080 all the way to the end of every Fantasy Hockey 75 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:51,759 Life episode, you will hear Jesse shout them out, and 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 I'm going to shout them out right now to Simon 77 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:57,199 Craftster and Timmy. The peak behind the curtain here is 78 00:03:57,199 --> 00:04:00,000 that it's actually a lot of work to be commission 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,159 for six divisions of a league like this, especially with 80 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:07,039 promotion and relegation factors to account for. So I came 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,840 to you over the summer and with the wedding and 82 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:12,159 mind and other obligations I have this year, I said 83 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,080 I wasn't sure if I could do it all again 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,480 this season, and we were able to come up with 85 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,040 this solution where these guys were only too happy to 86 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,439 lend a hand. And I'm so proud of how we've 87 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:24,959 been able to navigate the off season adjustments, dispersal drafts 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,519 and more to get to this point, the group chat 89 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:30,319 was popping off pretty much the entire summer, and so 90 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,600 I really appreciate everything those guys have been doing to 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,680 make the Tidy League one of the best leagues in 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,920 the world. And the other thing is that this administrative 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,800 change gives me a lot more time to focus on 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,319 the Tidy Takes segment, which is what I really love 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,240 about my role here within the Tidy commissioning team. Without 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,959 any further ado, let's get started here as we launch 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,920 another season of Tidy Takes. For the uninitiated. Here's how 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Tidy Takes works. One of myself or tim A, collects 99 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,360 all of the trades across the entirety of the Tidy leagues, 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,680 and we post them as trade polls in the Tidy 101 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:05,360 Trades channel on the FHL Discord. Just in case you 102 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:08,639 needed another reason to come and join us over on discord, 103 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:12,199 this might be your opportunity. I comb through the list 104 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:14,279 to see if there are relevant players to discuss or 105 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:17,000 interesting trends to dissect, with the hope that the information 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,639 that we present is relevant to people across a variety 107 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 of league types. We also present the poll results as 108 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,600 a snapshot of what the FAHL community thinks about certain 109 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:28,720 players and their values, with the caveat, of course, that 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,560 we are a bunch of prospect sickos over here at 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,959 the Fahl Discord, and so in a very general sense, 112 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,959 the younger the player, the higher. 113 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,439 Speaker 5: The appeal for the Tidy managers. 114 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: With all that being said, the first trade we're going 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,959 to discuss has some familiar elements for listeners to last 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,360 year's Tidy Take segments. It's a trade involving new Tidy 117 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,879 deckhand Craftster, who also has found a place in the 118 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:53,360 Lord Stanley division to nobody's surprise. If you were a 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,120 listener last year, you know I'm a big fan of 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Craftster and the way that he evaluates players, very detail oriented. 121 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:02,120 And he starts out this season acquiring a Tidy Takes 122 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,560 favorite from the twenty three to twenty four season in 123 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:08,800 Pavel Minchikov along with Buffalo Sabers spark Plug Zach Benson 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,480 from the Steel City Stars for Alexei Lafrenier. It's interesting 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,879 to note here that our Tidy community has voted in 126 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,199 favor of crafts Er here acquiring Mitchikov and Benson over Lafrenier. 127 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:23,920 Some people think it's even and then we do have 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,399 a few people who are Lafrenier fans. At this point, 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,879 usually I will share some feedback from the managers about 130 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,040 what they thought of the deal and how it came together, 131 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:35,279 and I'm going to start with Ricky from the Steel 132 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,279 City Stars, who says that he is much higher on 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,079 Lefrenier than most watching him play. In his opinion, he 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,199 has the ability to be a dominant player, playing at 135 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,639 a much faster pace, more decisive with his reads, and 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,040 more confident than ever with holding onto the puck as 137 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:53,759 everyone saw during his playoff run last season. He admits 138 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:55,600 that there's no clear spot for him on power play 139 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:59,160 one big knock against him in my opinion, but thinks 140 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:01,399 that it would re fle poorly on the Rangers if 141 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:02,920 they don't find a way to make room for him 142 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,000 in the coming years. In name value, he gives up 143 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 a lot in Benson and Minchikov, but he believes Benson 144 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,120 made the league too early. He's not confident that he 145 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,279 will be fantasy relevant as he becomes a full time 146 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:18,360 fantasy pro this season. As for Minchikov, given Ricky's position 147 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:20,800 in the draft, he felt that he could draft Levshinov 148 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:23,519 to replace Minchikov and get out from under the uncertainty 149 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,959 that Minchikov faces sharing a blue line with Zelwegger Luno 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,439 at all and in usual crafts Or fashion, if we 151 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:33,360 were here reading everything that Crafts wrote to me, he 152 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:35,839 wrote a novel. I appreciate that for context, but if 153 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:37,279 I were to read it, we would still be here 154 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:39,279 recording the episode at the start of the twenty five 155 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,920 to twenty six season, and so please enjoy these highly 156 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,160 edited comments from Kraft Craftster's main focus here was Team 157 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Construction as a dispersal team in the Lord Stanley Division. 158 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:51,079 He feels he needs to scrape for every edge he 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,839 can find, and having as many players as possible that 160 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:57,240 can flex back before black back and forth between pro 161 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,639 and farm is one way to gain a small edge. 162 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: Benson will lose. 163 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,439 Speaker 1: His eligibility in the first half of the season, Minchikov 164 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,279 has a bit of a longer leash, plus Anaheim has 165 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,759 its typically great schedule, and if he gets really desperate, 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,079 these are exciting names that can be dangled at the 167 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:14,399 end of the year to contenders in deadline deals to 168 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:17,519 try and survive in Lord Stanley. Big fan of Benson 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,759 and Minty Interestingly, his concern with both is both players 170 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,480 is the concern that he has with Laffarnier. Are they 171 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:26,639 no doubt power play one guys in the medium to 172 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,560 long term there are obvious five on five studs, but 173 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,720 will they demand top power play time for his short 174 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:34,840 term needs? He doesn't think he needs that since the 175 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,039 player he gave up won't have power play one either. 176 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:40,240 In laffarniir Crafter goes on to say he thinks Benson 177 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:42,759 could get top line duty at points this year and 178 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:45,600 that he doesn't think the internal options like Paterka, Quinn 179 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:49,080 and Tuck are immovable, which, as a Quinn stand I 180 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:52,720 might push back on a little bit. Interesting context here 181 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:54,759 is that Craftster and Ricky have mentioned they've known each 182 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,159 other for years, being former college roommates who would print 183 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,960 out the NHL rosters and bring them to school and discuss, 184 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 and they're therefore very comfortable dealing with each other. Those 185 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:06,799 are fantasy hockey goals, Victor, if I ever saw one. 186 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:09,080 We've got a juicy one for you here to chew 187 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,159 on with young studs with upside on both sides of 188 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:14,799 this deal without guaranteed power play time, do you prefer Lafrenier, 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,679 victor Or Benson, and Minchikov. 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an absolute gem of a trade, I think, 191 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,120 and I totally agree. I love hearing both these guys talk. 192 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:27,200 I've dealt with both of them in trade negotiations, and 193 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:31,360 I was with Graftser in the dispersal draft, which was 194 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,639 super fun, So we had a lot of fun conversations, 195 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 and yeah, it's just nice to be able to have 196 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:38,879 those really in depth conversations with people. I believe when 197 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,960 I voted for this that I voted for the Minchikov 198 00:09:42,039 --> 00:09:45,679 Benson side, just for full disclosure, things have happened since 199 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:48,480 then that might shift that a little bit. I think 200 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:51,960 in general, you prefer I think in general my philosophy 201 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,320 is to prefer the side that has one player with 202 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,720 more points upside, and as it stands right now, that 203 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,080 is clearly the case that Lafrenier has more Fantasy points 204 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,960 per game. But it's not just a white right now, 205 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 it's a what do we see for the future. And 206 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:08,559 I agree with what you said about Lafrenier, and that's 207 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,639 been my biggest concern too, is that he looks great 208 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,080 and his near sixty ish point pace is pretty impressive. 209 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,440 Especially considered he had six power play points this past season, 210 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,600 and I agree with Ricky's point that they should find 211 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,559 a point for a place for him on the power play, 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,960 but can they Can they find him with enough of 213 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,120 a role that he's going to be able to boost 214 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:30,840 that past ten to fifteen, which is really what he's 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,360 going to need to be a seventy point player. And 216 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,039 I think that he will gain more ice time. Seventeen 217 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:38,759 time on ice is what he had last season, and 218 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,600 he's proved that he's earned more. But there's just only 219 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:43,639 so many minutes to go around on a contender like that, 220 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,639 and that's a bit of my concern. I think that 221 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:48,279 at least for the next year or two, he might 222 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:50,919 have a little bit of a lower ceiling that that 223 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,480 is going to be hard for him to push pass 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,039 because of all those elite players on the Rangers. I 225 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,600 think everyone who's heard me talk knows that I love 226 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:01,080 Pablo Minchikov and Zach Benson, all these or my fans, 227 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,840 but I'm definitely more Minchikoff Benson truther than anything. But 228 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:09,240 I don't disagree with what Ricky said about Benson. I 229 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:11,120 do have this worry that he's just going to be 230 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,919 more of a real life all situations put him out 231 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,639 there and he can just shift the tide to what 232 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,200 the team needs, not too terribly unlike Mark Stone, I 233 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,480 think in some ways, who can put up a lot 234 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,879 of points, but also is just really an effective play driver, 235 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 and you might put him on a third line to 236 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,960 drive that line, and that could be really bad for 237 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,919 his fantasy prospects. But I do think he's a guy 238 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:37,600 who demands power play time, and I think that, you know, 239 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,440 maybe he made the team a little too early, but 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,919 he's just so dang good that it's hard to keep 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,840 him off. I do wonder that his fantasy points in 242 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:48,480 this format don't ever become elite though, just because he's 243 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:50,519 such an effective real life player that we try to 244 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:53,600 reward ice time and fenwick and takeaways, which are things 245 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,279 he should be good at, so I think that might 246 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,320 help him. The real sticking point for me is Minschikov. 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,159 I think we talked about him a couple times on 248 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,799 the show last year when he got traded a couple 249 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:08,080 different times, and I just think this guy is so impressive, 250 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,080 and he did really come out hot out of the gate, 251 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,240 and he had some pretty good numbers early on, and 252 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:16,200 then I think they really wanted him to focus more 253 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,039 on his defensive play, which he definitely needs to work on. 254 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:21,120 I don't know it was so much him though, than 255 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,279 the team around him, because his even strength defensive minutes 256 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,919 were thirteenth percentile for the league, which is obviously not great, 257 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:30,840 but you're talking about a really young player on a 258 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:32,519 really bad team, and so I don't know that you 259 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:36,320 can hold that much against Minchikov. I think he has 260 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:41,000 He totally has top like number one D all situations 261 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:42,840 written all over him. And that's a guy that can 262 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,000 play twenty four minutes and put up fifty sixty points 263 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,200 with power play points, hits and blocks. That's the kind 264 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,279 of guy that gets you seven plus points fantasy points 265 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,039 in this format. And so I think that I would 266 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,360 take that side just because of how much I believe 267 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,559 in Minchikov, even if it's plus minus on because as admiral, 268 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,480 there's a pretty big boost to defensive scoring in this league. 269 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,919 Speaker 1: There is, and I also think that Minchikov will take 270 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,639 a big step defensively, as will the entire Anaheim Ducks 271 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,519 roster as they age up and they level up in 272 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,639 their time in the league here, I think, for me, 273 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:20,919 given Kraftster's reasoning about where he is as a dispersal team, 274 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,440 that I probably lean towards his return, and indeed I 275 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,000 did vote for it. I have a little bit of 276 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:29,480 concern about the potential of Zelweger taking some of Minchikov's 277 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,639 reps on power play one, but I checked this morning 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,080 at the practice lines for Anaheim and Zellweger seems like 279 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,159 he might be the seventh defenseman, so certainly for this year, 280 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,919 I'm pretty high on Minchikov, and so short term with 281 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:44,159 the potential of moving him on at the deadline. Like 282 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,399 Krafter said, that really isn't a concern. I've never been 283 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,840 all that high on Lafarnier either, even when he was 284 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:53,720 playing for Team Canada. I just didn't see how it 285 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:56,799 would translate as well. And then when the Rangers picked 286 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,000 him and that shock move up the draft board, I 287 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,600 was pretty sure that he wouldn't really get the opportunity 288 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:06,320 that maybe people have been hoping for him. I don't 289 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,120 know how they make room for him on that power 290 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:10,799 play with all those top skill guys locked in for 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,080 at least two more seasons, and some of them for 292 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,519 five and six seasons down the road. It may take 293 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,000 a trade from New York for lafferniir to realize his 294 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,279 full potential, And I don't know if the Rangers will 295 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:24,440 admit defeat on that front. They might be more happy 296 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:26,519 to move like a CaCO or someone like that, but 297 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 I don't think they'll be ready to move Laffarnier anytime soon, 298 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:32,159 So I don't think I want to wait around for that. 299 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:34,600 If I could get a power play one D like 300 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:37,759 Minchikov and then the scrappy wild card in Benson, so 301 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,759 I think I leaned Craftster as well. 302 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: Just one more thing I want to say about that 303 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:48,200 is that I totally agree. I wonder just how much 304 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:50,759 more Lafernier has to grow there too, because I have 305 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 thought those things about Lafarnier too, But he really has 306 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:57,399 changed the way he plays in a lot of ways. 307 00:14:57,399 --> 00:14:59,679 Part of that is because of the weird development that 308 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,159 Ne gave him, but also he was just a guy 309 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,360 who would skate in off the rush and beat guys 310 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:06,879 wide and just I agree that was pint of the 311 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:08,879 concerns I have, But I think you really have to 312 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:11,200 give it to him in some respects because he has 313 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:15,799 upgraded his game significantly in the last few hundred games 314 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,919 that he's played, and he has really developed more skills, 315 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,879 especially down low, driving to the net, being able to 316 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:24,759 be more of an end zone type creator that we 317 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,840 didn't really see before. So you know, this is a 318 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,159 new era. But those other concerns about the team and 319 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:33,240 how just how they get him, I know that. 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,159 Speaker 4: It's going to be hard. 321 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:36,799 Speaker 3: Even if they want to give him lots of opportunity 322 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:38,399 and power play time, it's going to be hard to 323 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:41,720 give him enough to get up to past seventy points. 324 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:43,480 That's I just think that's going to be a challenge, 325 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,519 even if they really want to, So that part, despite 326 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,399 his improvements in his overall game, isn't going to necessarily 327 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:49,840 go away. 328 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I guess the other way that they could make this 329 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,120 happen is if they ship at one of those veterans. 330 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,840 We saw this past offseason that they are not exactly 331 00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:00,879 shy about calling out some of their veterans see Jacob 332 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,759 Truba's situation right now. So it's there's some potential that 333 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,399 with the quote unquote last dance for the Truba version 334 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,360 of this team coming up this season, that maybe if 335 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,279 they don't have the success they're looking for. Maybe they 336 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,279 move on a Zabanajad or a Crider or someone who's 337 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,559 on that top power play. And maybe we do see 338 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,159 Lafregner fulfill his potential, but hard to say. And this 339 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,639 is a trade for this season. Definitely leading crafts are here. 340 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,240 We'll shift away from the Top division to the ore 341 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,039 division here and although we're changing divisions, we are not 342 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,080 changing subjects as we're sticking with Michikov. Yeah, this is 343 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,440 the Fantasy Hockey Michikov podcast. For this week, Goku Chuck 344 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,399 yourself also known as Cory, acquires Minchikov for a collection 345 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:47,720 of very interesting players at differing development levels. Here NHL 346 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:51,879 regular Matty Benier's new Jersey defensive hopeful Seamus Casey, and 347 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Predators prospect matthew Wood from the Desert Scorpion team. The 348 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,559 Tidy managers voted overwhelmingly for the Desert Scorpions, which I 349 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:04,839 might disagree with, would Casey and Beaneers versus Minchikov. Corey 350 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,000 has this to say, I overpaid. I know that, However, 351 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:11,480 in this type of league, does it really matter that much? 352 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,319 I had more centers than I could play? And Benier's 353 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,119 probably being what he is last year one for one 354 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,519 was probably fair with Minchikov, but de always costs more, 355 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,519 and so one of Wood or Casey should have gotten 356 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:26,160 it done. But really wanting Minchikov, he thought he might 357 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,880 have to add a little bit more and his value 358 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,359 will only go up. Anyways, Casey and Wood are currently 359 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,160 buried on teams that clearly made additions and want to win, 360 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:37,079 so he thinks the players will be waiting longer than 361 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,839 usual to make the team. They're certainly blocked in Nashville 362 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,400 and New Jersey, Desert Scorpions had this to say. I 363 00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:46,119 wasn't selling Minchikov and had never made the decision to 364 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,319 really move on from him, but this offer came in 365 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,440 and it was an intriguing idea made me really think 366 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,759 about making a move. My only real hesitation was moving 367 00:17:54,839 --> 00:17:57,160 on from a young stud d man in Minchikov before 368 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 I really got to see him succeed. But the returns 369 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,759 seemed impressive. In the end, I stare at the offer 370 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,440 for a good hour, and knowing that the value was there. 371 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 5: Pulled the trigger. 372 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: No drawn out of negotiation, just a good offer made 373 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,039 and accepted. This one is really fascinating to me. 374 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 5: Victor. But I know right away which side I'd rather 375 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,160 be on with this one. What do you think? 376 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think it's any question for me either. 377 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,559 I would one hundred percent take Minchakov here. And I 378 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:27,440 think there's several things here. First of all, I love 379 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,000 the idea of you want your guy, you overpay, and 380 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,240 you just get them. I totally agree with Corey there, 381 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,000 because what could happen back and forth? I think we've 382 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:38,480 all been through this back and forth negotiation. Other people 383 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,599 get involved with the people off for other things and 384 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,720 you might just lose out, or they get tired of it, 385 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:43,480 they get offended. 386 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: You never know what could happen. 387 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,759 Speaker 3: So if you want your guy, just make a reasonable 388 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:48,960 offer and get him. 389 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that at all. 390 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:53,319 Speaker 3: I think you can say lots of different things about it, 391 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,920 but I. 392 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: Totally agree with that strategy. 393 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: And having missed out on guys here or there that 394 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,759 maybe you wish you had offered a little more for 395 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,880 is a good reminder sometimes that yeah, that guy could 396 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,480 have been on your team, and are you really going 397 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:08,039 to miss these other guys? As really part of the 398 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,880 question I was recording yesterday with Scott Wheeler for dober 399 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,279 Prospect's report, and one of the guys we talked about 400 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:19,599 was Seamus Casey, and holy cow, he loves Seamus Casey, 401 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,920 and he has really looked awesome this preseason. He had 402 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,640 an amazing career at Michigan. And I think part of 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,200 the question that I think we all have and that 404 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:31,279 we discussed is what does his future look like. 405 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:31,839 Speaker 4: In New Jersey? 406 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,599 Speaker 3: And I try really not ever to think about that 407 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,319 because and one of the things I clarifyed with Scott 408 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,400 is I think that Seamus Casey could go to another 409 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,440 team and be a second or third pairing top power 410 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,759 play guy. And he totally agreed. So if that happens, yeah, 411 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:47,880 this might look a little worse because I think Casey 412 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,039 could have similar points. I don't think he has the 413 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,720 upside nearly that minchikav has isn't like. I don't think 414 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:55,319 Casey will ever be at number one D. I'm not 415 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,079 even sure he can be a top forty, but he 416 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,960 can certainly run a top power play if he's not blocked. 417 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,079 And then so you got that going for you. You 418 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,359 got Matthew. 419 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 4: Wood, who has struggled a little bit. 420 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: He's switching college teams and I think that he still 421 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,119 has a bright future but has some development to go obviously, 422 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,079 and his foot speed is always going to be an issue. 423 00:20:16,079 --> 00:20:18,119 But guys that have that hand, those hands and that 424 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,359 size are always gonna get an opportunity, So big upside 425 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,240 for those two. I think part of it comes down 426 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,599 to Beanier's and what you really think about him. I 427 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:28,960 know a lot of people have different opinions about Benier's 428 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:36,039 but in the tidy there's a pretty important roster flexibility 429 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,559 that you need to have and if your guy isn't 430 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:43,200 locked into that center spot, I totally get what's Corey. 431 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,720 Corey is saying there are guys I've had. I think 432 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:48,119 it was I had Cousins. Yeah, I had Cousins on 433 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,920 my team for a couple of years, and even though 434 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,880 he's like a good player, there are times where he's 435 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,559 on the bench. So depending on your team construction, you 436 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:58,720 can have a really good player like Beniers, he could 437 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:00,400 end up just being on your bench if he's a 438 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,000 three to three and a half to four and a 439 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:06,440 half Fantasy points per game player. So that's a situation 440 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:09,119 where it depends on the team. Maybe if you have 441 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,319 a guy who's center, left wing or if you have 442 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,519 your absolute stud center like Jack Eichel, who I have 443 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,039 as my top center. Now that's kind of situation where 444 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:20,880 there's a no there's a no brainer. But if Beniers 445 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,319 doesn't get back to scoring sixty to seventy points, I'm 446 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,279 not sure he's going to be much more than a four. 447 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: To four and a half point guy. 448 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: And then with Minchikov having the upside, like I talked about, 449 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,880 having you know, up to six or seven fantasy points 450 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,160 per game, then I like the consolidation. I think that 451 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:39,200 there's a lot to be said there, and of course 452 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,000 the D value and the fact that he's ready now right, 453 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:44,880 I think just next season, I'm pretty sure Minchikov will 454 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,039 outscore beniars and unless Peniers goes bonkers with his scoring. 455 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,440 So you get the consolidation, you get the d which 456 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,400 are always a bit more valuable, and I think that 457 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:55,839 you just go get your guy. 458 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 4: Do you like that strategy? 459 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 460 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,519 Speaker 2: I like. 461 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,039 Speaker 1: I like especially in this league where there's no guarantee 462 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:04,960 you're going to keep your team. If your team has 463 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,039 a really bad year, that team's going into dispersals. If 464 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:11,279 you're gonna have some of these kind of extraneous prospects 465 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,240 like a Casey or a Matt Wood, and we should 466 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:16,799 talk about him a little bit as well. It's good 467 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:19,519 to move on and consolidate and get that sure thing, 468 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,720 no doubt player. So I agree with Corey just talking 469 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,440 a little bit about Casey. Still good to know. That's 470 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,559 what's going to be coming out for the DPR show 471 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,559 on Seamus Casey with Wheeler and yourself. I was listening 472 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:34,720 to Prah earlier today on the Athletic Hockey Show Prospect series, 473 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:37,200 and they were talking about Seamus Casey, who has had 474 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,839 a really great preseason for New Jersey and looks set 475 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,039 to maybe get into a few games early in the 476 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:46,319 season here as some of those injury issues on the 477 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,039 Devil's Blue lines sort themselves out. And one of the 478 00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:52,480 things that Corey Prohman brought up was that he's blocked 479 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:57,200 threefold by Hamilton, Hughes, Knemich and other strong New Jersey 480 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Blue liners there. But today this time could serve as 481 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,519 an audition for NHL teams around the league, who, you know, 482 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,519 maybe see this guy as an extra piece here in 483 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:10,039 New Jersey and someone who could really help them out. 484 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,319 A la Tyson Barry perhaps early in his career. I 485 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,680 could definitely see Casey moving on and putting up some 486 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,079 similar numbers. But you know, if that's what it takes 487 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,039 to get the deal done, that's what it takes to 488 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:22,000 get the deal done. You know, if he ends up 489 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:24,759 closer to a Ryan Whitney type than a Mike Green type, 490 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,480 then that's that's fine. 491 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 5: Ryan Whitney was. 492 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,559 Speaker 1: Pretty decent early in his career with the point scoring especially. 493 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,799 I'd like to get your opinion here on Matt Wood. 494 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,720 For me, the boots are a little heavy skating has 495 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,200 always been a knock on him, and I'm pretty low 496 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,319 on him, especially after his lackluster performance in last year's 497 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,119 World Juniors. I certainly would welcome an opportunity to move 498 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,200 on him if I owned him, especially since the Nashville 499 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,079 middle six is teaming with good options moved down by 500 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:54,440 the acquisition of Stampcos and Marchesso where does Wood factor 501 00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:55,160 in here for you? 502 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, the boots are a huge issue for Wood, and 503 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,000 I think a lot of us saw that looking at 504 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440 some of his tracking data from that World Championships. There 505 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,400 were definitely some good things, but we also saw some 506 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,960 of the lacking things. I think with Wood. The problem 507 00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:14,759 with him, is that you really need someone to move 508 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,839 the puck and set him up. You need someone to 509 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,400 do a lot of work for him. He needs to 510 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,400 be in the right situation and you can't ask him 511 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,680 to do too much. There are some wingers that you 512 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,839 can absolutely there's some wingers that you can absolutely just 513 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,440 help drive the entire play and you don't need to 514 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,000 worry about them. Guys like Miko Ranton and come to mind, 515 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,599 doesn't matter what line you put them on, Kevin Fiala. 516 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 They're so creative, they're so dynamic, it doesn't matter what 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000 is not that type of player. He needs a very 518 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:44,079 specific centerman playmaker creator. He can get down low, but 519 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,279 he can't get the puck in the zone. He can't 520 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720 necessarily drive the puck to the middle all the time. 521 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Sometimes he's getting a little bit better at going from 522 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,559 boards to the middle, but that's still something that he 523 00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,880 needs a little bit of help with. So I think 524 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,599 in the right situation he can be good and Nashville 525 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:01,039 has no reason to rush from along, which is good. 526 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm looking at my. 527 00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:05,319 Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Life player card and one of the things 528 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,359 that you think about with Wood is that he's a big, 529 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,720 physical guy. But he actually doesn't really hit that much 530 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:13,759 that much. His per sixty hits are below average in 531 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:17,119 the NCAA. He shoots a lot, though, so that's good. 532 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,920 His shots are great, but he also doesn't block, so 533 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,480 his peripheral floor is basically he shoots, and so he's 534 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,119 more of a points only play and he's more of. 535 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 4: A goal scorer. 536 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: He hasn't really developed that much of his playmaking side, 537 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,240 so to me, he's the type of player that just 538 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,680 needs a very specific situation, which is part of where 539 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,200 my rating comes in. For those of you who haven't 540 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,759 talked about this before, but the puck said rating. I 541 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:39,920 have him at a five point five to seven, which 542 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,799 means fifty seven percent chance of a five out of 543 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:46,240 ten on your roster, So that's like average roster that's 544 00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:50,000 not even above average, which means he's he at best. 545 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,519 In my opinion, he'll be close to replacement level, so 546 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:57,559 that's not super exciting. I do think there's a world 547 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,319 where he becomes like a second line powerful forward, plays 548 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680 on the top power play like that certainly is still 549 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,160 within his reach, but there's each season that's getting less 550 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480 and less likely, and it's looking like he's going to 551 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:12,640 have a monster season that Minnesota with this new change, 552 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,599 which could happen, but there's more, there's farther to go now, 553 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,680 and I think those things are a little less likely. 554 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,160 And I haven't seen a huge improvement in his feet, 555 00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:23,119 which is something he really needs to work on. 556 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,599 Speaker 1: So we both disagree with the Fantasy Hockey Life discord here, 557 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,519 who voted overwhelmingly in favor of Desert Scorpions. Remember I 558 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,640 said earlier a bunch of prospects, sikos and these guys 559 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,839 really love guys like Casey would, but Minchikov is the 560 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,759 proven element here, and very happy to get him in 561 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:43,400 that kind of a deal, especially if I move on 562 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,160 from a guy like Wood who could end up on 563 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,359 the waiver wire. We'll be right back with more tidy takes. 564 00:26:52,880 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: This too excellent, are serious injury. 565 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: And we're back victor onto our next deal. Here, we're 566 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,319 going back to the top division, that Lord Stanley Division 567 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,799 for this one. It's a doozy involving last year's Norris 568 00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,200 Trophy winner. I remember I sent this one to you 569 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,640 and you were very excited to talk about it. Indeed, 570 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,000 one of the most underrated centers in the league and 571 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,680 a slew of polarizing prospect d to discuss here Clay 572 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,759 and Tidy. Lord Stanley acquires Quinn Hughes for last season, 573 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:30,240 the Norris Trophy winner for a selection of prospect D 574 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,599 here Montreal Canadians, now injured defensive prospect David Reinbacher Ottawa 575 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,519 Senators soon to be power play one in a couple 576 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,680 of years, d Carter Yakumchuk, a solid top four defenseman 577 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:47,400 in Tanner Mahlendyke for the Nashville Predators, and center Sebastian Ajos, 578 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,519 perhaps one of the more underrated players in the league. 579 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920 And here's what Clay had to say about this deal. 580 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,559 The main reason I was trying to make this deal 581 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,799 was just trying to fix my own mistake of over 582 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,759 rostering centermen with my acquisition of Dubo the deadline last 583 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,240 year and both Doc and Line coming off of my 584 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:05,559 IR looks like Line is going back on there. But 585 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,960 he felt he could get more production out of another 586 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160 elite winger or d man. He canvassed the league pretty 587 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,519 thoroughly with trade offers to assess what the market would 588 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:16,920 be like to flip either Tage Ah or Ryan O'Reilly. 589 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,440 I feel like in any other format, I wouldn't have 590 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,559 paid the price that I did here. But I'm assuming 591 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:24,960 that both Yakimchuk and Mahlandike will take several more years 592 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,279 to make any impact on an NHL level, and that 593 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:30,039 Reinbacher will take a back seat to Hudson on Montreal's 594 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:30,480 blue line. 595 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,039 Speaker 5: Interesting thought there. 596 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,799 Speaker 1: He sees Hughes as a top five D in the 597 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:36,920 league for the foreseeable future, with one of the highest 598 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,160 vorps in this format that's value over replacement player, where 599 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Aho is around top ten at his position with a 600 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:44,200 much deeper. 601 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,319 Speaker 5: Pool of positional competition. 602 00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: Clay thinks that in a couple of years he might 603 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 want this one back, but with relegation on the table 604 00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:53,440 this year in Lord Stanley and it is it's worth 605 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160 the risk to push in every year to win the championship. 606 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,599 Liam got this offer at a nowhere and smash accept 607 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,880 when it was offered to him totally out of the blue. 608 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:06,240 He likes Aho and one of Yakimchuk and Ryan Backer. 609 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,759 He might have said yes to just Aho and one 610 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:10,680 of those guys, but instead he gets both of them 611 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,920 plus Mooldendyke, who could be a second pair guy. Liam 612 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,039 also did say to me. He was a little surprised 613 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,240 at how close the vote was. And I have to say, 614 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,039 considering how prospect crazy this discord tends to be, I 615 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,839 tend to agree, what do you make of Hughes for 616 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,839 AHO and these three young d Victor. 617 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: I know Clay did his due diligence because he also 618 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:32,960 reached out to me, and being in Lord Stanley, I 619 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,440 got the privilege of having that discussion. You might have 620 00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:40,920 had some discussion with that too. It was in general, 621 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,920 I love the consolidation one better player, and if you 622 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,319 just look at the points from last season, Hughes did 623 00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,119 have more points per game than Aho, so on a 624 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:54,400 just superficial value, I always liked that concept better and 625 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400 I totally get the having too many good centers thing 626 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,480 and trying to upgrade another premium position. That philosophy works 627 00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:03,880 well for me and I know Clay well. He and 628 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,960 I co manage our DPR team together, dub Prospects Report team, 629 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,240 which we won last season. 630 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: And I know he's smart. 631 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: He's been in the discord and been in different leagues 632 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,720 for a while, so you have that initial Okay, he 633 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,279 knows what he's talking about. This isn't some silly request 634 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,319 like he's obviously thought about it, and it's not coming. 635 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,279 It's not coming without some forethoughts, so you like that. 636 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,480 I think part of it comes down to two things. 637 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,039 One is what we saw from Hughes last season the 638 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,759 peak or is there more to come? And what do 639 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,559 you make of these other guys the other defenseman And 640 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,759 I think that's a big part because I think Sebastianajo 641 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,839 is pretty much where he is. He's a fantastic fantasy 642 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:46,079 points per game center at a position that there's a 643 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:47,799 lot of death, but there aren't a lot of centers 644 00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,119 who score that much, so it's definitely like a pretty 645 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,200 good value for him. And in terms of Ryan Bacher, 646 00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:59,079 Yakimchuk and Molandike, I think Mollendyke is someone who is 647 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:00,680 going to play in the league, but I'm not sure 648 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400 his fantasy points is going to be much more above replacements. 649 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,319 He'll be really valuable on his ELC when you're flexing 650 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,319 him up and down, and beyond that, I'm not sure 651 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,799 how valuable he will be. Ryan Bacher, who seems pretty 652 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,640 nh already, might have the same benefit of being able 653 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,319 to flex those guys up and down, but when he's 654 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,359 full time he might be just a little bit above average. 655 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,559 And I think it really a lot of it comes 656 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:26,200 down to Yakimchuck. And you can talk to probably ten 657 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,519 Fantasy gms and get ten very different impressions about kri Yakamchuck. 658 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,680 I personally haven't changed my mind that much, even though 659 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,359 he's had a fantastic preseason, because when you watch him 660 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,079 without the puck and when you watch him defend, all 661 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:39,960 those concerns are still there. So when he has a 662 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,119 puck on his stick, which is what we've always said, 663 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,039 you know, when you watch him in the dub puck 664 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,319 on his stick, he's incredible. He's super dynamic, he can score, 665 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,200 he can set plays up. He's fun, super fun. But 666 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,000 he's also fun for the other team when defending and 667 00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:55,799 away from the puck, And so that's not good. 668 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,119 Speaker 4: You worry a little bit. 669 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: I just can he be that top pair all situations guy? 670 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,359 And I still don't think so. And so if he's 671 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,680 what we talked about with Shamus Casey, if he's third 672 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000 pair of top power play, that's good. 673 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,039 Speaker 4: But it's not. It's not Quinn Hughes. 674 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: It's not like he's not going to get almost eight 675 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,319 Fantasy points per game. That's the rub. Is he like 676 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,200 a four to five Fantasy points per game kind of 677 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,160 guy at his peak? That's more what I'm thinking, and 678 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,559 so but if that shifts, then it's a completely different situation. 679 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,200 And I also don't think that Quinn Hughes has even 680 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,759 hit his peak. I think he is an elite player 681 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200 and he might even have a little more to give. 682 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,720 And I think, you know, if he's in that eight 683 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,319 Fantasy points per game range, he's like kel McCarry, he's 684 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,119 like best of the best. So that is it's worth 685 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480 having the best, and if you can get that consolidation, 686 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,680 then I personally would prefer that, even though Ajo and 687 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,039 those guys are perfectly reasonable, and I think I would 688 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,920 probably lean more towards even But if I was forced 689 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,799 to choose, I think I'd want Quinn Hughes premium position 690 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200 that probably even has a little bit more to give, 691 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,519 and I would be very happy with that. 692 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: What do you think? 693 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to agree. I'm lower than most on 694 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,119 Rinbacher and Mollendike. Like you said, I think they'll be 695 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,839 pretty valuable on their entry level of deals, and when 696 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:18,880 we can flex them up and down from minors, get 697 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,240 those valuable peripheral stats, maybe a little bit of extra 698 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,720 scoring here and there, but I think Mollendike is the 699 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,039 kind of guy who you could find on the free 700 00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:31,640 agency waiver wire. I think reinbacher at he's a talented 701 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,960 player with some very exciting physical tools, there's no denying that, 702 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,559 but there's just a ton of competition in Montreal for 703 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,839 lineup spots, and that injury that he sustained really spooks 704 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,039 me on his value for the coming seasons here. So 705 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,559 I think they're absolute ceilings. Those two guys are top 706 00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,599 four defensemen. Certainly, that's valuable in our league. Like you mentioned, 707 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,079 we try to assign some value to time on ice 708 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,599 and Fenwick and that kind of thing. But I don't 709 00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:58,640 think that they're a threat for power play time on 710 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880 their teams, and so they're not really interesting to me. 711 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,440 The one guy who could be a power play threat 712 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,279 is Yakim Chuck. I know Corey Prahman is particularly high 713 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:08,480 on because he's six three to two hundred pounds, and 714 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,800 we know that Corey loves size, especially for these young guys. 715 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440 But I do think he's blocked in the short term 716 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,199 by Shabbat and Sanderson, who will probably be the power 717 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,599 play guy on that team for the next decade, And 718 00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,519 so if he has to compete with Jake Sanderson for 719 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,960 power play time and Shabbat is ahead of him, he's 720 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,360 not super interesting to me. And like you mentioned, yeah, 721 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,280 Yakimchuck is great in the dub but it's not like 722 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,280 the quality of competition in that league is particularly high. 723 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,360 I really am not that interested in Yakimchuck. And when 724 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,519 the other side of the ledger is Quinn Hughes, it's 725 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,719 no question for me. Hughes is a great player to 726 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,960 have right now, especially for a team that's looking to 727 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,639 contend like the Lazy Boys, and it's been a discussion 728 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,800 of consolidation this entire episode. I'd be very happy to 729 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,360 get Hughes here. I do recognize that this was a 730 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,480 pretty good deal for Liam, who adds a top ten 731 00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,639 center in Oho. That's nothing to sneeze at, certainly, and 732 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,760 some nice good use to flesh out the prospect pool 733 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,800 of the defense of the Queer one imports. Who knows 734 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,519 Ottawa could trade out a blue Liner or Hudson could 735 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:13,719 sputter and give Rinbacher some power play time, and Liam 736 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,559 will have cycled out Hughes for the future power play 737 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,519 quarterback of either Ottawa or Montreal. But for me it's Hughes. 738 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,119 What do you have to say about that? 739 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: No, I totally agree. I think that it's going to 740 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719 be really interesting to track. I also think it's really interesting. 741 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,400 These two teams are both in Lord Stanley and Queer 742 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,239 One was sixth in last season and Lazy Boys eleventh, 743 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,159 So as Clay mentioned, they they're both in Tier one 744 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,920 and Clay worried a little bit more about relegation. He 745 00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:49,440 was close last season. You were the last team that 746 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,760 narrowly avoided relegation, you and d Right. 747 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we. 748 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,079 Speaker 5: Don't need to talk about that. 749 00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,039 Speaker 1: We're not talking about our team yet. 750 00:35:58,039 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: But it's a real big deal. 751 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,079 Speaker 3: For those who aren't familiar with the format, the bottom 752 00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:07,280 four teams essentially play a playoff and the winner of 753 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,960 those four stays. The other three get relegated. So you 754 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,039 don't want to be in that round robin. It's super 755 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:15,599 not fun and stressful and you lose your team and 756 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,880 you get relegated and all that. So avoiding that is huge. 757 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,840 At least if you're in the middle, you're playing for 758 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,679 draft picks, but you're safe you don't have that chance. 759 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480 So he was not that far away, and he and 760 00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,000 Clay trying to do the best he can to improve 761 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,960 his teams. It's interesting, especially in Lord Stanley. 762 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: I have found it. 763 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: I've had a lot of discussions since being promoted, and 764 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,400 everyone's going for the same goal. 765 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: It's different when you're in the lower. 766 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: Tiers and you're like, this might be not this might 767 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,960 not be my year, like in typical dynasties. Right, I'll 768 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,760 take some futures for you can have this win guy 769 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,679 now and Lord Stanley, there isn't any of that. 770 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: It's all we're trying to win. But it's a little bit 771 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,840 more like redraft. 772 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,599 Speaker 3: You have to be a little bit more careful so 773 00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,840 you can have some positional consolidation. You can have a 774 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,800 little bit of I'll take two blos us to be's 775 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,039 for my A or something like that. You can do 776 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,119 some of that, but you got to be careful because 777 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,239 in the end we're all going for the same goal, 778 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,320 which just to win, but also to avoid relegation. 779 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we're really thinking about the next three seasons, 780 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,400 I think is the way I think about the tidy 781 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,000 Lord Stanley division. And you mentioned that we were pretty 782 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:23,199 close to being in that round robin last year, and 783 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,880 that's what prompted what will be our last trade discussion 784 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,519 of today. You've given me the perfect way to dovetail 785 00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,599 right into this trade here. That's what being a professional 786 00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:35,119 podcast host is like. By the way, folks, this is 787 00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:38,719 peak performance from Victor Nunio. It wouldn't be a Tidy 788 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840 Take segment without me cornering you and soliciting feedback on 789 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,719 a deal of my own ed and I traded Branford Bulldogs. 790 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960 Still feels weird to say Branford Bulldogs stand out forward 791 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,760 Merrick Vaniker, who we just drafted in the Prospect Draft 792 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960 this season, and the lynchpin of the Prince George Cougar 793 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,639 is Riley Hite, who I know is. 794 00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:58,159 Speaker 5: A favorite of this podcast. 795 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:02,159 Speaker 1: And we got back ready made NHLer in Nick Paul, 796 00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:05,519 who does it all for the Tampa Bay Lightning, and 797 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,639 a very exciting young defensive prospect for the Chicago Blackhawks 798 00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,679 in Alex Vlassik. Voted to be mostly an even trade 799 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,880 here between us and Clay by the tidy listenership here 800 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,039 and from our perspective, we were initially offered Nick Waugh 801 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,519 instead of Alex Vlassick, so two centers there for the 802 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,000 Height and Vaniker tandem. We're pretty solid at center on 803 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,360 our team, and we're much weaker at d We always 804 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,239 have been since we drafted this team, and so we 805 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,400 counted with Vlassic in the hopes of picking up a 806 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,519 Pariff's guy who we can flex up and down for 807 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:40,800 at least part of the season. 808 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 5: This year. 809 00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,599 Speaker 1: We were also happy to get a guy like Paul 810 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,960 with dual eligibility and a shot at the top power 811 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,239 play in Tampa, where that fourth spot is a split 812 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,639 between himself and Brandon Hagel. Clay thinks that the power 813 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,920 play is a little more cut and dry in Tampa. 814 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,199 He sees that Hagel is taking that power play back 815 00:38:56,599 --> 00:39:00,199 all season, and he sees that Paul's last year and 816 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960 was possibly his career high watermark, which I don't necessarily 817 00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,079 disagree with. He believes that Vlastic is a hard hold 818 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,760 after he loses his minor eligibility, even though he has 819 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,360 a good floor in this format. He's a big believer 820 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,920 in height as am I, but he thinks that he 821 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,159 has been the straw that stirs the drink in Prince George, 822 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,400 not a whole lot going on up in Prince George 823 00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,639 certainly right now and a bit of a deep cut 824 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,360 here for fans of the DUB, but Clay offers this 825 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,000 analysis of what Prince George is going through with Wheatcroft 826 00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,480 and Funk finishing their junior careers next to him and 827 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,400 both finishing second in the DUB end points. Last season, 828 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,960 Vaniker was the clear leader production wise on a competitive 829 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,280 OHL squad, and if Lardis can stay healthy this year, 830 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,639 he can sees them being them as being one. 831 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 5: Of the highest scoring duos in the OHL this year. 832 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,039 Speaker 1: He thinks that anytime an organization trades to get a 833 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,840 player in the first round, everyone should bunch bump him 834 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,360 up a notch in their rankings. So, in summary, this 835 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480 deal for Clay was moving some guys that have diminished 836 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,719 value in his perspective, in Vlassik and Paul for some 837 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,079 prospects that he is very into. So, Victor, what do 838 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:06,639 you think of the deal that we were able to 839 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:09,639 come up with here Flastic and Paul on the BFF 840 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,960 side and Vanniker and Height Going back to Clay. 841 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,199 Speaker 3: Since I am a COGM with Clay, I happen to 842 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,199 know he absolutely loves Mark Vanneker. There's no question about that. 843 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,079 He basically talked to me, talked my ear off in 844 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,599 a good way about Vaniker, just how he thinks he's 845 00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:27,599 gonna he's going to really pop off. 846 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:28,559 Speaker 4: And I think Clay is one of. 847 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 3: These guys that watches a lot of the chl very closely, 848 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,159 and so I respect that, not being not having as 849 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,440 much access to watch that. I totally believe and respect 850 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,199 when people have those opinions. And he I have chatted 851 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,840 with him for many times over the years, and generally 852 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,719 his takes are pretty right when he sees these kinds 853 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,800 of things happening, especially with respect to what kind of 854 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,920 role a player has and what they're going to be 855 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,280 getting in the future and all that kind of stuff. 856 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,599 I think that's really important. Looking at Vanniker, there's ice 857 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,920 time he was getting, you know, eighteen minutes last season 858 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,039 that should balloon this year. And he was able to 859 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:10,360 do quite a lot for Branford with very limited time 860 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,159 on ice. I mean he had a little bit, but 861 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440 you know, well over point per game. I think he 862 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,400 you know, he could be zero point and a half 863 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,519 to two this season with a lot more opportunities. So 864 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,119 you love it when a guy plans his flag on 865 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:24,559 a guy, So you love that. I'm not sure that 866 00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,320 I fully agree with Manniker. I haven't seen as much 867 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,599 as he has, so I'm willing to just say, yeah, 868 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:33,159 maybe with that guy. That's when he asked to Adam 869 00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:36,199 to draft him. I shrugged my shoulders and said, yeah, man, whatever. 870 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,039 So if you believe that strongly about height is another one, 871 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,719 so both these guys. So Height is someone I absolutely 872 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480 think is going to be great. He even had a 873 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:49,760 really good camp and prospect tournament. So Height is someone 874 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,679 who I think is turning heads even within the Wild organization, 875 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,719 which is great. I have him at a seven point 876 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,719 three to one for height. I do think he has 877 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,840 pretty good upside. I'm not sure how realistic it is 878 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,639 you get there, but man is he's feisty. He's got 879 00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:05,880 a little bit of that snarl in him that a 880 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,039 lot of people love. Pims count negatively in this league. 881 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,639 Speaker 4: But he does a lot of that. 882 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,679 Speaker 3: So if you're into that, so these are but these 883 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,000 are two maybes right for what you got, which is 884 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:20,679 clearly Nhler's. I agree about the Nick Paul situation. I 885 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,320 think he might be closer to replacement level moving forward. 886 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,039 But you get some depth, which is good. I also 887 00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:28,800 think it's funny you guys made this trade since you're 888 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,800 right even with each year, like you were right near 889 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,360 that line of relegation line, and those of us who 890 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,440 just join the league are all going to be trying 891 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,119 to pull you down, so. 892 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 4: We're all in that same range. 893 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of this hinges on Alex Flassik, 894 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,079 and I personally think that he's a stud. And one 895 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,360 of the things that's always useful to do is to 896 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,079 go look at the money. And especially if you're not 897 00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:52,880 a cap league, you may think I shouldn't look at 898 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,800 the money, but you absolutely should look at the money 899 00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,639 because you can tell that the Chicago Blackhawks obviously think 900 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:05,719 very highly of Alex Flassek, giving him for four point 901 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480 six million dollar cap hit, even though he hasn't played 902 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,000 you know, that many games. But I think it's pretty 903 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,239 clear based on his body of evidence. I mean, his 904 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,360 defensive impacts were insane. He was ninety ninth percentile for 905 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,000 his defensive impacts in the entire league on a historically 906 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,559 bad team, you know, for the Chicago Blackhawks, so that 907 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,360 I think is really impressive. As this team gets better, 908 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,920 they added a whole lot of guys that are at 909 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,960 least NHLers to round out and support Connor Berdard Hall 910 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,519 will be healthy. We'll see what Bertuzzi and toy Ver, 911 00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:42,679 Terry Vine and can bring. But they just have more 912 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,599 competent NHLers to play with and I think that's going 913 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,440 to make a big difference here. And alex Flassk is 914 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,480 going to be leaned upon second most time on ice, 915 00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:54,639 I'm sure, and I think he can bring more periffs 916 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,960 this league. Also rewarding play driving I think is going 917 00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,559 to improve dramatically for alex Flastic this season because it 918 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,800 was hard to have any positive last season with that. 919 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,079 Speaker 4: And then you also. 920 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 3: Brought up the minor eligibility, which won't last that long, 921 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,239 but while it does, that'll be super helpful. So I 922 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,599 can see why if you could be patient for a 923 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:18,440 vanikar and height in particular height, and if you believe 924 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,719 in Vaniker, then I can see how that makes sense, 925 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,960 especially if you think Paul is going to regress, which 926 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,599 I think he might. It really depends on how high 927 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:30,360 alex Plastic goes, because I think it's not terribly inconceivable 928 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,079 that alex Plastik nearly doubles his fantasy points, and if 929 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,760 he does, that's looking really great for now, and then 930 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480 we just have to wait and see what Riley Hype 931 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,400 can do. But I'm not sure that Riley Heyde is 932 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,440 a no doubt top liner. He's probably more of a 933 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,679 middle six playmaker type guy. I like this for you, actually, 934 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,400 I think that I would prefer that, especially in this 935 00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,400 division where you might not have the ability to be 936 00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:53,079 that patient. 937 00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: Right. 938 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,639 Speaker 3: You need to focus a little bit more on what's 939 00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:59,000 happening now, So I would probably lean towards the aleck 940 00:44:59,039 --> 00:44:59,719 Blastic side. 941 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Victor for validating my opinion here. I just 942 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,800 want to wax poetic a little bit about Vlassic here. 943 00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:10,800 I really love the player. I think that kind of 944 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,079 player early in his career. I think of a guy 945 00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:17,159 like Samuelson over in Buffalo, another guy who got that 946 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,880 kind of bigger contract. He's younger, he's got some physical tools, 947 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,440 he's strung defensively. I really love that archetype of player 948 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,400 in this league. And does Vlassik have the potential to 949 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,159 be like a Brent Seabrook over the course of his career. 950 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,119 Is that something where we could be looking at him 951 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,800 ten years from now, when Badard and co. Have won 952 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,039 their second Stanley Cup and we're looking at that guy 953 00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:41,159 as a really big piece of that team. He's already 954 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,320 on the level of some of these established NHLers, and 955 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,639 so I'm excited to have that particular player, especially given 956 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:51,599 that Edward and I last season we rostered Eric Branstrom, 957 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:56,639 we rostered Sean Walker, we rostered Jalen Chatfield, we roster 958 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,719 still to this day, Jake Middleton. So we need some help, 959 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,239 certainly on that blue line, and we're looking for a solution. 960 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,760 So Vlassic seems to be a guy we can plug 961 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,280 in every night and be very happy with the return there. 962 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,760 I want to talk now about Riley Height, who I 963 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760 agree he's an exciting player. I just wanted to share 964 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960 this tweet us out the other day from Mike Russo, 965 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:21,320 who is the gospel here for the Minnesota Wild fans. 966 00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,559 He tweeted a few days ago about Height when the 967 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:26,079 Wild sent him back to PG saying that the talent 968 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,360 is clear for Height, but that he is not remotely 969 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,760 ready for the NHL. 970 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 5: And I agree about that. 971 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: I love Height and players of his archetype, but his 972 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,599 height is a concern for me and I think his 973 00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,280 biggest fans might see him as a Braiden Point type 974 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,880 if he hits all of his benchmarks. The puck stud 975 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,880 rating of thirty one percent, what is it, thirty one 976 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,840 percent of being a seven that doesn't scream Braiden Point. 977 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,320 To me, Point was more consistently dominant in junior than Height, 978 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,960 and he still took two years to make the NHL 979 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,599 and two more years after that to be fantasy relevant. 980 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,519 So we're looking at twenty six twenty seven for Height 981 00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,719 to really make an impact, and like you mentioned Vaniker, 982 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,440 he might have a bit more of a cook time 983 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,800 as well. We don't have that long to wait. As 984 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,480 you've mentioned, we're at the bottom of the Lord Stanley standings, 985 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,320 and so if Height isn't ready and Vankar isn't either, 986 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,880 Given that all of our prospect draft picks this year, 987 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,840 we're left wings with weight Times and Isiserman and Chernishov, 988 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,599 we felt very comfortable moving on from Vaniker to get 989 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,679 something that we needed right now. No losers in this deal, 990 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,159 with the discord basically voting this asn't even split. But 991 00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,159 I'm happy to come out with the NHL ers and 992 00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:34,559 with guys that can help us move up the standings 993 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,159 right now. 994 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,519 Speaker 3: Indeed, I yeah, I think I would have a hard 995 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,320 time taking play side just because I would be really 996 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,559 nervous about giving up some competent nhl RS when you 997 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,599 have to worry about relegation and all that, I totally 998 00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:50,679 get it. But if you can when if you can 999 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,360 be patient, then I'm totally on board with that. It's 1000 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,840 that's what makes tidy so fun. You have to consider 1001 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,679 these different variations. You have to consider the fact that 1002 00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,239 you might get relegated, you have to consider that you 1003 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,280 might feel like you're safe, and then you make a 1004 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,639 trade and now you're fighting to stave off relegations. I 1005 00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:09,639 think that all makes it super fun. And obviously we 1006 00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,639 want as many people that join this super fun league 1007 00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:13,519 as possible. That's why part of the reason we're talking 1008 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:15,519 about it. But also we just want to give insights 1009 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:16,599 on these players. 1010 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,639 Speaker 1: Right exactly, Victor. That's why this Tidy Takes segment exists. 1011 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,960 Thanks for having me back, Victor. It's great to be 1012 00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:26,440 back here on the Tidy Takes segment. I'm very excited 1013 00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,400 for the next time we get to talk. We've got 1014 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960 a couple more trades in the Hopper to discuss going forward, 1015 00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:34,800 some very exciting players, and I'll just tease a little 1016 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,199 bit here some of the players that we might talk 1017 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,519 about next time, and one that just came across my 1018 00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:43,960 desk today. We might be talking about an exciting player 1019 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,960 in Colorado, Nikolai Kovalenko, who's had some run with some 1020 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,199 of the top guys there through the preseason. Here, Danieli Yurov, 1021 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,440 who I know Jesse will be tuning in for. He's 1022 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,400 a big year off guy. And Kent Johnson, who has 1023 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,199 been a bit of a enigma as he crests into 1024 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,519 his kind of second third season here as being an 1025 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:05,480 NHL tweeeners lots to discuss going forward, Victor, and I'm 1026 00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:07,280 excited to be back in the grind. 1027 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 4: With you absolutely so much. 1028 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 3: Appreciate you curating all this fantastic data, and thanks to 1029 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,360 all the participants for lending their insights. It is so 1030 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,039 fun to hear. To me, that's the best part, hearing 1031 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:23,440 all the reasoning behind the trades, how they come together. 1032 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,960 It's just a super fun part. And to me, some 1033 00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:27,960 of these relationships are one of the best parts of 1034 00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:30,360 fantasy hockey, So I really enjoy it and hopefully other 1035 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,239 people are going. 1036 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 2: And before we sign off, reminder our shows brought to 1037 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,480 you by fan Tracks. You can move leagues over to 1038 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,239 fan Tracks. That's where we play the Tidy. You could 1039 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,079 start new leagues. There's ten different sports. There's some that 1040 00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,119 you can get in on right now, like basketball. There's 1041 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,199 still time to start your hockey league. There's only been 1042 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,719 a couple of games played so far and they're the 1043 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,840 most options for scoring, salaries, contracts, rookie eligibility, all the 1044 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,639 stuff you need. Fantrac's HQ has fantasy content. There are 1045 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,800 articles on fantasy hockey and all the other fantasy sports 1046 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,400 going on there. FHL team shout out to all of them. 1047 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,800 Today you heard several referenced with the Tidy. Ryan the Admiral, 1048 00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,599 but also Craftzer, Simone and Timmy are the team that 1049 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,599 keeps those things running. Ryan also helps a lot with 1050 00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,320 show prep. Well you heard it today, he did most 1051 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,480 of the show prep. Jeremy V and Tony our co 1052 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,960 lead scouts. Scouting reports are never too far away here. 1053 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,079 Brandon is our website guru. He's a scout and he's 1054 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,079 helping with prospect ranks and visualizations. If you'd like to 1055 00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,920 help out the show. All these people just sort of 1056 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,119 came to us, and you could do so too. Hit 1057 00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:56,360 Victor up in the discord email or on X We're 1058 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,159 brought to you by Dauber Hockey and Dabber Prospects. Victor 1059 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,280 is an editor. Follow his work there as well as 1060 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,519 his other podcast, Aubert Prospects Report with Peter Harlan. You 1061 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,719 heard reference to Scott Wheeler being on this week. That's 1062 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,559 a get Ladies and gentlemen. Check out Victor's articles at 1063 00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,800 EP Ringside too, where he's part of the fantasy team 1064 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,719 with Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford. I do a solo show, 1065 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,679 Dynasty Sports Life. I talk all the different dynasty sports. Recently, 1066 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,159 I've been doing what I call the City Blender editions 1067 00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:30,079 where I rank players from all four teams, all four 1068 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:33,519 major sports teams into city and believe me, hockey figures 1069 00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,679 prominently in those. So if you ever think about spreading 1070 00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,960 out your Dynasty wings, you can listen to Dynasty Sports 1071 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,559 Life with me. Follow this show on X fan Hockey 1072 00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:48,960 Life is Me Victor Newno. Twelve v CTR and N. 1073 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,320 One two is Victor. Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 1074 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,119 wherever else you get your pods. We thank you once 1075 00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,920 again for listening. Hope you enjoyed these trade breakdowns on 1076 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,920 the tidy takes, and until next time, keep living that 1077 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:09,320 fantasy hockey life.