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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to bill handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty bill handle here on a Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>May twelfth, is Oh, what a weekend it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big stories. I mean, there are a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of massive stories, and probably in terms of business

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. You just notice Heather reporting that the

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<v Speaker 2>stock market is up the now he's up a thousand points.

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<v Speaker 3>And why is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because over the weekend, China and the United States

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<v Speaker 2>have agreed to lower tariffs on goods from each other's

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<v Speaker 2>countries for ninety days. And let me tell you, business

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<v Speaker 2>is reeling in a positive direction.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a temporary reprieve in that trade war.

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<v Speaker 2>That threatens that I'm saying, almost guarantees of global recession.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was I mean, the fight between China in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States could have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Just enormous, just enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>So what Treasury Secretary Scott Descent and US Trade Representative

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<v Speaker 2>Greer said that after weekend talks in Geneva with a

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese delegation, US tariffs will be reduced from one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty five percent to thirty percent, on top of

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<v Speaker 2>the already in place ten percent. Now we're talking forty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty percent for a lot of companies is doable. It's tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's doable. And as you know, I talked to

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<v Speaker 2>my partner every single day about these tariffs because they

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<v Speaker 2>totally affect our business. And we were at one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty one percent. Tariffs couldn't move now forty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we can deal with it, not well,

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<v Speaker 2>but and Beijing said that its blank of terrific on

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<v Speaker 2>American products for as one hundred and twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>now drops to ten percent, and this kicks.

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<v Speaker 3>In on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, one hundred and forty five percent and

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and twenty five percent forget about a

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of tariffs.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a complete embargo. It's a total embargo of American.

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<v Speaker 2>Products being sold in China, Chinese products being sold in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. That comes to a screeching halt. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no business being done between the two countries at

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of tariff rate, and so stock markets across

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<v Speaker 2>Asia already are up here in the US one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>points and we have a ninety day pause and a

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<v Speaker 2>joint statement released by both countries. We have agreed on

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety eight pause and the spirit of mutual opening,

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<v Speaker 2>continued communication, cooperation, and mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would argue cooperation.

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<v Speaker 2>And mutual respect is a big word which defines perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship with China. One of the problems with the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration is not even so much the tariffs themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that it changes day today. And here is the

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<v Speaker 2>problem you're going to see right now. Short term, there

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<v Speaker 2>goes the stock market up through the roof a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>points today, and then if tariffs kick in after ninety days,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to drop a thousand points.

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<v Speaker 3>But long term, here's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>The President has said trillions of dollars have been announced

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<v Speaker 2>by various companies to be invested in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>new factories, new distribution systems, and what he is saying works.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with business is what business wants more than

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<v Speaker 2>anything else is stability. The markets want stability, and what

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<v Speaker 2>does a major company do. So you've got a major company,

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<v Speaker 2>let's pick a company, General Motors, who has agreed to

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<v Speaker 2>invest X number of dollars in the billions into a

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<v Speaker 2>factory in the United States, moving it from Mexico. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the President has arbitrarily and individually decided on the tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>because remember, Congress gives him anything he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Republican Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>And therefore, the next president, who is a Democrat, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>goes the other way and reduces terrorists, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, the twenty thirty forty billion dollar factory that's

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<v Speaker 2>being built in the United States doesn't make sense anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It becomes too expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the average worker that works in a auto

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<v Speaker 2>plan in the United States makes twenty five twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a day. In China, the average worker makes under

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars a day or under two dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, twenty five dollars an hour for the average

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<v Speaker 2>worker in the United States, and an auto plant versus

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars an hour can't compete. And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>China dumps money subsidizes their big manufacturing firms. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's you can't rely on anything. And let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you the decision for a major company to invest

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars into a manufacturing plant in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States and move it from Mexico, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>No small deal. That takes years.

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<v Speaker 2>So right now, the trade surplus with the US was

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred billion dollars. Last year, China sold more products

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<v Speaker 2>to the US than US bot from sin by one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump says it was in the trillions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you know. One of the things about the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers are kind of outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to see what happens. So the trade

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<v Speaker 2>war is continuing to a smaller extent the way during

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<v Speaker 2>his first term, there was a twenty percent tariff issued,

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<v Speaker 2>and this had to do with the fentanyl related chemicals

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the country, which China does do or allows.

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<v Speaker 2>It allows fentanyl products, and this is the products that

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<v Speaker 2>manufacture fentanyl. They don't actually sell fentanyl. What they do

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<v Speaker 2>is they settle in materials to make fentanyl. So that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense in one sense, But the same tariffs are

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<v Speaker 2>going against Canada because of this massive amount of fentanyl

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<v Speaker 2>materials is coming from Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Not also the immigration issue.

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<v Speaker 2>While China does have an immigration issue with Chinese nationals

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<v Speaker 2>coming in United States, how many Kate Canadians are sneaking

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<v Speaker 2>over the border.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's all mixed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is put into a blender, mixed up No one

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<v Speaker 2>knows what's happening at this point. All we know is

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get a smoothie. And so as the government

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<v Speaker 2>has said the Alicia Garcia, ro Chief Economists for Asia Pacific,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an investment bank.

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<v Speaker 3>The deal is not a solution.

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<v Speaker 2>It's simply a smoothing of the impact of the bifurcation,

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<v Speaker 2>the splitting up of our relationship. But it's certainly better

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<v Speaker 2>the news than was happening Friday or last week, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get local for a moment. And this has

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<v Speaker 3>to do. This story has to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the La Time story about the faulty alerts that

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<v Speaker 2>happened during the La fires. And this was after an

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<v Speaker 2>investigation into La County's faulty emergency alerts during the January fires.

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<v Speaker 2>US Congressman Robert Garcia, who was investigated this, issued a

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<v Speaker 2>report calling for more federal oversight of the nation's patchwork.

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<v Speaker 3>And it privatized the emergency alert system.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's privatized, and it's under contract with the

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<v Speaker 3>And here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The investigation was launched by Garcia in more than a

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<v Speaker 2>dozen members of the Congressional delegation LA's congressional delegation after

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<v Speaker 2>La County sent a whole series of faulty evacuation alerts

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<v Speaker 2>on January ninth, urging people to evacuate, now not just

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<v Speaker 2>in the fire areas or where the fire was moving,

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<v Speaker 2>but all over the metropolitan region of ten million people.

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<v Speaker 2>Go evacuate ten million people, a lot of which had

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<v Speaker 2>no issue. As a matter of fact, this alert came

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<v Speaker 2>two days after the firestorms erupted in Pacific Pales days

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<v Speaker 2>in Altadena, and the alerts, which were intended for a

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<v Speaker 2>very small group of residents near Calabasas, has had to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the Calabasas.

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<v Speaker 3>Fire which was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much burned in Calabasas, it turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>those folks were very lucky. So they were intended for Calabasas,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were blasted repeatedly to communities as far as

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<v Speaker 2>forty miles away in which the fire had zero chants

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<v Speaker 2>of going to.

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<v Speaker 3>And engulfing those homes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the report is titled Sounding the Alarm Lessons

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<v Speaker 2>from the Kenneth Fire False Alerts, and this talks about Genesis.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the software company that contracted with the county

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<v Speaker 2>to issue wireless emergency alerts.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're saying a technical.

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<v Speaker 2>Error is what caused it to happen, That this was

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<v Speaker 2>a faulty alert that went across the entire metro region.

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<v Speaker 2>And according to Genesis, oh there goes my printer again,

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<v Speaker 2>the software did not upload the correct evacuation area.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. Well, they're saying it was human order, human error.

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<v Speaker 2>The report found that contrary to accounts of La County officials,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple echo alerts went out as cell phone provider's experience

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<v Speaker 2>overload due to high volume and the long duration of

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<v Speaker 2>the alerts, even when not only were they false, they

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<v Speaker 2>went on for minutes and minutes, and confusion was compounded

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<v Speaker 2>and it was all kinds of vague wording in the

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<v Speaker 2>original alert.

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<v Speaker 3>Garcia said, it's clear there's so much reform needed.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to have operating systems that people can rely

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<v Speaker 2>on and trust in the future. That's scary stuff when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about emergency alerts that are either false or

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<v Speaker 2>somehow in error. They don't do it in an area

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<v Speaker 2>which they should. In this case, they were broadcast. They

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<v Speaker 2>were sent to people over cell phones in a much

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<v Speaker 2>broader area cos panic in areas that had no chance

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<v Speaker 2>of being engulfed in flames. Garcia said, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the loss of life and property, people's confidence in our

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<v Speaker 2>emergency notification systems.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, do you rely on emergency notification systems? I do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know? If I'm looking at an alert, get out

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<v Speaker 2>of Dodge. I'm getting out of Dodge, even if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't live in Dodge. Are there any towns named in

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<v Speaker 2>southern California? I don't think so. But it's really scary stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>Garcia said. People need to be able to trust that

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a natural disaster, they're going to get an alert,

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<v Speaker 2>which we do get, and it's going to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct information which we didn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>So the report makes some recommendation more federal funding, like

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get it right for funding, planning, equipment, training,

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<v Speaker 2>system maintenance. The FEMA has an Integrated Public Alert and

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<v Speaker 2>Warning System national system that provides emergency public alerts through

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<v Speaker 2>mobile phones using wireless emergency alerts privately owned and it

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<v Speaker 2>goes to radio and TV via the.

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<v Speaker 3>Emergency Alert System. Now we get those all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Amber alerts, we get those even if the phone is

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<v Speaker 2>turned off, we get these.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right, by the way, Uh, if you turn

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<v Speaker 3>the phone off. Do you still get the emergency alerts

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<v Speaker 3>or does it not come in? No matter what you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the answer, they still come in. It

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<v Speaker 3>may not make a sound, but you see a visual

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hate that emergency alert. I mean my ears

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<v Speaker 2>blow off, blowout, and you go, come on, Really, so

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<v Speaker 2>you have some kids getting kidnapped? I mean, is that

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<v Speaker 2>worth it to blow my ears out?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>So the report presses the FCC to established performance standards

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<v Speaker 2>and develop measurable goals for monitoring, and we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to have it. It's that simple. So big failure

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<v Speaker 3>in government.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is one of those non privatized businesses services

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, maybe the government should be involved. Now

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are not happy with the government

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<v Speaker 2>being involved, but once in a while you do want them.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I'm okay with the FCC the FAA establishing

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<v Speaker 2>to another airline. Love it, Okay, Neil, this is for you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Here's a question for you. And I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has to do with the religion and government,

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't. I know Neil does, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil is in the majority in this country because there

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<v Speaker 2>are a whole lot more Christians than any other religion,

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<v Speaker 2>although that number has decreased dramatically. So during his campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump told Christian supporters that if he became president, they

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<v Speaker 2>would never have to vote again because we'll have it

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<v Speaker 2>fixed so good. And I don't think he was talking

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<v Speaker 3>I don't buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it had to do because remember he's telling

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that has to do in most people.

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<v Speaker 2>And based on what he said, is bringing back Christian

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<v Speaker 2>values and eradicating anti Christian bias, because that seems to

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<v Speaker 2>anti Christian bias, and he set up a task force

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<v Speaker 2>to somehow decide what exactly constitutes authentic Christian belief and practice.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that. So President Trump is in fact

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe Christian followers have no problem with the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he was a complete.

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<v Speaker 2>Womanizer and has violated many many Christian beliefs, But then

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<v Speaker 2>again you have to turn the other cheek. Interesting how

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<v Speaker 2>the politics work on this, because frankly, anti the pro Christian,

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<v Speaker 2>the Christians belief it was abortion that was the number

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<v Speaker 2>one thing an abortion has taken care of. So this

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<v Speaker 2>with the examples that the Trump administration considers to be

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<v Speaker 2>unacceptable discrimination against Christian Christians, including prosecutions during the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>era of Christian anti abortion protesters.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a law the Freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>To Access Clinical Interests that were passed, and the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>four as the year's Transgender Day of Visibility, and this

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<v Speaker 2>you had, I mean, it's completely turned around. This is

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<v Speaker 2>no longer freedom of religion where everybody practices and the

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<v Speaker 2>government has nothing to do with religion nothing, because under

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<v Speaker 2>where is where the interpretation of the Constitution comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where you have the Supreme Court deciding how

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<v Speaker 2>far a provision of the Constitution goes. For example, Second Amendment,

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<v Speaker 2>the Court has decided the language of the militia. In

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<v Speaker 3>That disappears, it's just the freedom to bear arms.

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<v Speaker 2>The Court also ruled that, and this is in the

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<v Speaker 2>past that freedom of religion and separation of church and

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<v Speaker 2>state was absolute. The state cannot get involved in any

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, no prayer in school at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't mention God in classrooms, can't have the Ten Commandments

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<v Speaker 2>state building, a a state classroom. And separation of church

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<v Speaker 2>and statement. You can't mix the two up. Well, that

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<v Speaker 2>has changed, Boy has that changed, and so conservative Christians

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<v Speaker 2>are saying we are being discriminated against big time. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>the Freedom to Access the Clinical Entrances Act, which they

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<v Speaker 2>going in the door and harassing them and calling them murderers.

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<v Speaker 2>And the court was pretty clear in terms of upholding

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<v Speaker 2>the Freedom to Access Clinical Interests Act. You can protest

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot harass people, you cannot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yell murder all. That's a different issue. You probably we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's changed because now under freedom of religion, how

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<v Speaker 3>It has switched completely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back and finish this up because

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<v Speaker 2>this is I mean, we're changing big time. When I

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the way we're going and trade presidential power,

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<v Speaker 2>this one. I think this is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>problematic issues of the day. And they have to determine

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<v Speaker 2>who's a Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Do you know who a Christian is?

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<v Speaker 2>Does anybody who believes in Christ a Christian? If God

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<v Speaker 2>tells you to block someone from entering a or being

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<v Speaker 2>coming in because of your religious belief, are you allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that? Well, there are arguments up and down

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalk on that one. Now there's also anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>that the White House has come down really hard and

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<v Speaker 2>deporting people and stopping the quote anti Semitic, and having

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just anti Christian Semitism. It's also anti

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish Semitism. And for some reason, we don't have much

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<v Speaker 2>out there of anti Muslim sentiment other than not letting

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a basic tenet of belief. But the big

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<v Speaker 2>one is Christians. And why is the big one Christians?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there are so many Christians. Although although in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ninety percent of Americans identified themselves as Christian today,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty two percent say there are followers of Christ much

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<v Speaker 2>less organized religion. So someone who is a Muslim, that's

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<v Speaker 2>fairly easy to determine. Someone who is Jewish, that's fairly

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to determine who a Jew is. Christians are

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<v Speaker 2>Why because christian is a more all encompassing religion.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Neil is shaking his head. Is basic? Let me

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<v Speaker 3>ask them? Is basic Christianity just a belief in Christ? Period? No,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the point I believe in you have to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the trinity. Now, there's gonna be people that

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<v Speaker 1>argue this. Jehovah's Witnesses believe differently, and there's those that

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but is it self described if you believe in Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Jehovah witnesses, if you pass a law saying

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<v Speaker 1>But there are things that make you a Christian. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never understand why people think that it's just like I

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really how it works. There are tenants to

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<v Speaker 1>between the dual nature of his godhood and his humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>There are things that you have to believe to be

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So let me ask you there.

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<v Speaker 2>You are committed all kinds of horrific acts, non Christian acts,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you die you have genuine remorse, and you

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<v Speaker 3>I really believe in you. Does the door open up?

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<v Speaker 1>No chance in hell. You're not getting in just on

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<v Speaker 1>personality traits. Well, this is what people don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>You ask about.

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<v Speaker 1>The standards of right and wrong are not man made.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are your laws. The standards of God are different.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone fails that you smash a mirror, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>mirror is broken. You don't get a piece of the

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<v Speaker 2>So are we born in sin? See we're moving over

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<v Speaker 2>to a whole different issue. Yes, And you are born

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<v Speaker 2>in sin becose I was not born in sin.

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<v Speaker 3>I developed my sin with a lot of work. It

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<v Speaker 1>It was a sin for you to be born.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm not arguing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The point is that I know we've gone off

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<v Speaker 2>on a tangent here. The point is there is a

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<v Speaker 3>We now want. But people misunderstand it.

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<v Speaker 1>The separation of church and state, not in the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is to protect the church from the state,

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<v Speaker 1>not the state from the church.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is no, It's to protect individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's to protect individual and you don't protect the state

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<v Speaker 2>from the church. You know, it is the individuals because

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution deal with your rights, not the state's rights,

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<v Speaker 2>but individuals' rights.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love getting the last word in Neil, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what this show is about. Whether I'm right or wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>name not mine, Whether I'm wrong or right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, kfi am six you've been listening to the Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Handle Show.

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