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Making Great Audio Drama event with the Audio Drama Institute,

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and I'm here with Austin Peachee. Hello. Hello, And we

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are on day four.

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Speaker 2: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, fifth day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, technically the fifth day. There wasn't anything going

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on on Sunday night, but that was technically the day

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when everybody arrived. So yeah, so here we are. We

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had initially planned to do some recaps a little bit

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more frequently, little updates, but the schedule, although it's not

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been super tight, there is just I don't know the

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logistics of this particular place, and coupled with the conversations

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that keep happening, the spontaneous part of this event has

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made it a little bit difficult to schedule some time

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to actually sit down and record. So I want to

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say at the top, apologies for that, but we are

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trying our best, and this is going to go out unscripted, unedited,

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so we're doing our best to give you some, you know,

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a little taste of what being at this event is like.

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And we're just recording it on the fly here and

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dropping it down the feed and if you are new

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to Audio Theater Central, this is not a normal episode.

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usually much better than this, So if this is your

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first time around, you might want to check out a

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previous episode in the feed. All right, well, Austin, this

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has been an incredible week so far. I've seen so

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many and this is probably the biggest takeaway, as it

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usually is with an event like this. I've seen so

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many people making connections. We have writers, actors, sound designers, composers,

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than Sonic Con, but also it's a more intimate kind

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of setting with that because it's a smaller group, but

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you're you're all eating you know, meals together. You're eating

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and other people in the ledger industry and people that

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are wanting to get into it and fans of Odyssey

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and things like that. It's just, yeah, that's one of

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the one of the biggest and the best thing about

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being here is just hanging out with a lot of

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like minded people, meeting new friends and seeing old ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, we're just recording this live here. So

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if you hear somebody walking by or hear some voices

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in the background, that's what's going on. We are actually

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Ranch campus, and right outside there's some some people talking

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audio drama. So that's just a vibe of this whole place, right.

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I mean, everywhere you go there's people having coms and

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we all have this this shared interest, shared passion for

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making great audio drama. And I'm just just having a

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great time, you know. And so you know, you mentioned

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some of the people who are here, some of the

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teachers we've got, you know, Kathy Buchanan, Phil Lawler, John Fornoff,

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Katie Lee, Todd Busteed, John Campbell. Did I say that?

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but they're also a lot of them multi talented. They

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have different sort of skills, and they've got a lot

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of experience in this industry and a lot of experience

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in life in general, and so they're able to chime

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in on the different sessions, even if it's not one

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that they're teaching and it's a it is formal in

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that we have an official itinerary, there's a schedule we're

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times we're able to just have open conversations.

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your your college days, and it's about subjects that you

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and hearing like different comments from people or some witty

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comments from Katie or something like that. But like we're

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it happened so many times where like I think today

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be an audio audio engineer, so so fascinating to her

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things like that. So she learned some things, like she

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little bit more and different things that we're learning from

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each other, even the teachers, I'm sure, from the students

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different experiences or tools or websites or something that could

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be beneficial to them as well. So it's for everybody.

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different classes. Of course, this is a making audio drama, right,

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drama fans, and there are a lot of industry folks

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events or some of the sessions that have been covered.

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interfaces with the director, how that relationship works a little bit.

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take ways for you, Austin, of any of the classes.

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better term, I'm hey, I'm running around trades. Yeah. Yeah,

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I'm running on low sleep here, so my brain's not

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functioning at full capacity. But I think you know what

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of the process. So is there anything that has stood

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one that Kathy did on Monday on the personality puzzle,

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where she gave out handouts on the ennegram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the enneagram, which I think I've.

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of like a personality of these kind of personalities where

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a core one for that. And then I don't think

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i've ever heard of this before, but interviewing your characters.

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Lee and created character. Enough people did as well, and

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information that we created those characters into this actors were

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different event. And that's gonna help me so much of

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my writing, which I kept the papers. These are gonna

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character questionnaires before, but never framed in that same way,

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just listening to Todd Bustyed kind of break down his

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his story even which is extremely inspiring. Yeah, and yeah,

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calling it a car wash audio drama because John likened

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it to the process where there's a more modern auditor. Boy,

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the brain is really not working those more modern car

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what we're doing, an assembly line audio drama here. Yeah.

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John hughes. I've been in some of his and Katie's

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classes where that was used before. But seeing the changes

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the sheep, like the sheep bleeding, and then also seeing.

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify it, that's bleeding, not bleeding.

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and everything like that. But seeing the as you said,

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the alterations that they suggested and just seeing the process

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of you know, they're giving him notes, these are suggestions,

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these are things we think can make it better. But

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he can then go back as he's redrafting, editing, he

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can make the decision whether to incorporate those things or not.

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much better script. Right, And that's the whole point. We're

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making great audio drama, not good or okay audio drama,

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and we're doing it together exactly. Yeah, so I know

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you're gonna love that. This is a it's a very

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very funny script, Phil and even Oh so that was

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the other thing too, the collaboration in the recording and

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the directing. There were things that weren't necessarily in the script,

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even though it had been revised and we had a

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new draft and it was much better. There were things

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, for sure. It was a lot of fun

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and some running jokes and things like that that happened

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that just led to even outside of the recording, that

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some jokes that we were making outside of the recording.

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I guess we're in the camp, but yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So obviously we've we've barely scratched the surface of

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everything that has happened in these four fold days and

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a partial fifth one. So we're gonna we're gonna reconvene

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and we're gonna share a little bit more. An amazing

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thing happened on Wednesday night, and that was a world

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premiere of a brand new audio drama from Heart Matters.

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because it's been so rich in that regard.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's been absolutely worth the time and

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effort and money to get here, and I'm glad it's

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So we will check back in with you soon.

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It's just about time for dinner anyway, so we're gonna

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have to wrap this up, but we're looking forward to

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sharing a little bit more about this event with you

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in the next recap. So stick around, and again, if

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you've made it this far and you haven't checked out

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previous episodes of the show, please dive into our back catalog.

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Austin is a frequent guest on the show and shares

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a lot of great well I mean, he's done reviews

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with us over the years and just general conversations. Have

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you ever done news updates, settlement or if you've done that,

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Yeah that's right, yep, yep. So he's been a co

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host frequently on here. So go check out something in

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the back catalog and hopefully there'll be something there that

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