1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to reality TV. Chris. I am one 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,839 of your hosts, Delia here with my real tight homegirl 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,800 and my daughter in law, the exquisite and the quintessence 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:29,280 of loveliness be that's me. We are here to talk 5 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,200 sister wives. Honey. We had a little break, just like 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,799 a one week needed to get away from a lot 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,920 more moms a little bit. And we are diving into 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,719 season nine, which is the season of the legal divorce, 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,840 the adoption of those three kids, and then the catfish. Yeah, 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,159 so I'm super and also Galvis Alston, the couple family therapy. 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 It goes straight to how oh and Janelle and Mary 12 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:03,159 trying their hand at therapy. Big yikes. So there's a 13 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,319 lot going on in this season and I can't wait 14 00:01:05,359 --> 00:01:08,439 to get into it. Bubbyfore we do, we have to 15 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:13,359 issue you a disclaimer. Please hide your wife, and you 16 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:14,680 better hide those kids. 17 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: Better. 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the clause. Say it again. We are an 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,439 irreverent podcast. We're here to have fun. We talk matt 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,079 shit about reality TV. We're offensive and we're vulgar, so. 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: Heave your suits. Do the same for you, honey. Boo boo. 22 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: You might want to find yourself another dumpster. But if 23 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:43,959 you're down to I guess witness the final nuptials of 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,079 Cody Brown and Robin Brown will then welcome to this 25 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,159 dumpster puke. 26 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,239 Speaker 2: And if you like what we do over here, please 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,079 be sure to follow us on Instagram at Reality tv 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Cringe and join us on Patreon, patron dot com, sash, 29 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:01,159 Reality tv Cringe, the vip where it's at. You get 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,000 all of our bonus content plus every weekly episode of 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,959 ours ad free. 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Let's hype your girls up. 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: Please. 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,479 Speaker 1: It's a ray, bunny, It's a ray for the algorithm. 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Every single thing you do allegedly helps us. 42 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: And so thank you in Lily, thank you. 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into our recap of this first 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,560 episode of season nine, Beatrice, I do have to ask 45 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:44,000 you if you have any takeaways. 46 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: My takeaway is that Cody and Robin totally remember this 47 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:56,080 little secret elopement that they had at the fucking county office. 48 00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:59,960 Like they're acting like it doesn't matter, but they're dressed up, 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,680 they got a camera bag. I'm like, y'all, I can't. 50 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,719 I don't know if anybody watched this back then and 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,560 was like sussing it out, because I'm watching this and 52 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:09,960 I'm like. 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I can see it all. Yeah, from the perspective of 54 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,560 twenty twenty six, it's so clear and the hell that 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,560 we've all been through with these hoes. Yeah, you can 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,840 see the machinations and what they were doing clear after. 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Now my takeaway has to do with our girl Mary Ooh, 58 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:32,319 her stank face, her hook face as we say in Hawaii, 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Like just when Janelle was approaching her to see if 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,719 she could like give an olive branch and if there's 61 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:41,080 something that they can do in therapy to men their relationship, 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:47,680 just like, the countenance of Mary Brown was terrible, so rude, 63 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,439 very rude, very smug, very superior. It's as if she 64 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:57,840 feels like her alliance with Robin means she doesn't have 65 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,719 to get along with any other wife. Yeah, and I 66 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:05,159 don't even understand why Janelle in this moment is groveling 67 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:08,800 in front of Mary and asking for some sort of reconciliation, like, 68 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,919 what are we doing? Janelle? Is Cody putting you up 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 to this? I'm not sure what's up with that. 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Maybe Cody is putting her up to it because he's like, 71 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:18,639 you need to get along with all them wives, and 72 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,439 she's like, Okay, I guess I'll start with Mary. 73 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 74 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was like some sort of 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,639 a plot point content manufactured by production because Janelle doesn't 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,519 really seem to want to be doing it and Mary 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,279 doesn't really want to hear it. Yeah, so I don't 78 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:37,279 know what was going on. It was very confused. But Mary, 79 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,399 come on, man, Mary's such a bitch, not very kind 80 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:40,879 at all. 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,639 Speaker 1: Okay, So without any further ado, let's get into Sister Wives. 83 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,040 He's a nine episode one in toutto. 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,959 Speaker 2: A Secret Marriage and Sister Wives Unseen, which is like 85 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,480 supposed to be about the tell all that's attached to 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,759 this episode, which was boring. 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,759 Speaker 1: A we're not going to cover that, We're not just 88 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,600 gonna cover the episode. 89 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: There was literally nothing interesting that was talked about in 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,319 that stupid tale. Also, in the episode, we pick up 91 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:09,519 where we left off at the end of season eight, 92 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,879 where we're still at the lawyer's office. We're signing the 93 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,560 divorce papers, which we already saw at the end of 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,040 season eight, like whatever, we have to watch Rob and 95 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:19,920 cry about it again because. 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: It hurt her, the divorce her and she's sad for Mary. 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: And then we have Cody and Mary going to dinner afterwards. 98 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:31,680 They're hand in hand and Cody's making sure to let 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,879 Mary know and the cameras know that we're not actually divorced. 100 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:40,639 Nothing's actually changed here. I still love you, We're still married. 101 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:43,839 And then when they're at their little restaurant, Cody tells 102 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,639 Mary that he's so proud of her because of her 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,160 commitment that she made to the family, and he's proud 104 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,639 to be married to her. And of course Mary laps 105 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,920 it up and it's terrible. 106 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,199 Speaker 1: Yes, And I think, to add insult to injury, Is 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,680 it like happening in the Rainforest cafe? I thought, Are 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 you guys at a mall? Are you guys at the 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,160 Rainforest cafe? I thought, Like, you can't take her out 110 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 to like a nice place. You're in Vegas. There's the 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,480 whole strip in everything. You can take her to a 112 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:16,360 great meal, But no, we're going to the mall. 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,319 Speaker 2: Mary it's like a cheap, shitty cafe. That's what you deserve, 114 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:24,639 that's all you get. And then we fash flash forward 115 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,399 two weeks later. We're at codyum Robin's house in their 116 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:33,680 beautiful backyard that was renovated with everybody's money, and Robin says, 117 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,480 we need to chat. We need to talk to Mary 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,199 because the divorce papers or the divorce isn't finalized at 119 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,160 this point in time, but Robin has since filed adoption 120 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,000 paperwork or something in the state of Montana, where her 121 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:52,600 ex husband lives, and she needs to talk to Mary 122 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,319 about it on camera to make everybody think that this 123 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,279 really is just about the kids. It's not about Cody 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,680 and Robin wanting to get married. 125 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Did I wink out and go to some other timeline, 126 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,839 because I don't remember that being a part of the 127 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,639 conversation at all. I thought it was like more about 128 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:15,399 Mary going to the actual ceremony for Cody and Robin. 129 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:17,519 I know becomes that, but I think I don't remember 130 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,800 the adoption. How can she put into adopt those kids 131 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:25,240 if their divorce is not final and their marriage hasn't 132 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,360 happened yet. I don't know. 133 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:28,959 Speaker 2: I thought it was a really weird, non sequitur thing 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,040 for her to bring up because they hadn't really discussed 135 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,040 that yet and it's only been two weeks since the 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 legal divorce. But I think the reason why she brought 137 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:40,079 it up was for the cameras and for the fans 138 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,879 to be like, no, no, no, just remember this is 139 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,560 the anchoring thread here that it's all about the kids. 140 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,600 But then it does turn into a conversation about Cody 141 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:52,079 and Robin's legal marriage. 142 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Well, there was a comment that Robin made. It must 143 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,680 have been in this scene that I totally blanked out on, 144 00:07:57,759 --> 00:07:59,959 but she said something like, yeah, we want to wait 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 adopt the kids because their biological father hasn't even seen 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,360 them in two years. Yes, he's been absent, that's the 147 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:10,399 word that she used. And I'm thinking, but haven't you 148 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:14,399 alienated him from his kids? Yeah, didn't you move from 149 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,199 Saint George to Lehigh down to Vegas? I mean, has 150 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,639 he had the opportunity to have sufficient visitation with his kids? 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: Right? 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: You just want to paint it like this picture, as 153 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 if you've been abandoned, And ultimately she does allude to 154 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:30,360 being abused and all of these things, but like, we 155 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:33,720 never get to hear from the kids in terms of 156 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:36,200 their perception of their father, and certainly we never hear 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,120 from the dad, but like we're just like, don't do that. Yeah, 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,200 don't act like he's absent when we all know you've 159 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,960 isolated him from his kids. 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: It felt really icky to me. And then she was 161 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,159 also talking about how Cody is their real dad. She's like, 162 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:51,399 you know, he's been there the last two years, he's 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,240 been there. He's their real dad. And then I think 164 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:57,720 we had like a little scene with Robin's kids where 165 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,919 they talked about Cody being their dad, and it was 166 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,799 kind of a non sequitur. But I'm just like, man, 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,360 this whole thing feels really gross to me. And like, 168 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,879 when you think about it from the perspective of Codium 169 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Robin just wanted to get married. Like they really are 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,159 just using the kids as pawns and cover a shield 171 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:16,200 for this, and it's really icky. 172 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really really relative. 173 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: And of course, you know, the moms of the family 174 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,879 are going to go along with it because they care 175 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,639 about the kids and they care about the family. But 176 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 in reality, it's really just for codyum Robin to seal 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,120 their marriage together. But when they start talking about getting 178 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:38,399 married and how it's just paperwork, it's just shuffling around paperwork, 179 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,960 it's legalities, like it doesn't mean anything. Mary chimes in 180 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,519 and says, you know, I actually don't want to be 181 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,320 a part of that. I don't want to be there. 182 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,240 I don't want to know when you guys get married 183 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:50,639 because I'm having a lot of emotions that are coming 184 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,559 up from this whole legal divorce that I'm kind of 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,799 surprised by. And she says to the cameras, you know, 186 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,600 I don't really trust myself to be a part of 187 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,799 this problem because you know, I'm going to think, well, 188 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,720 now you have two anniversaries. Now you've got two dates 189 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,759 that you'll want to remember. And Mary does stay to 190 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:10,799 the camera too, which I thought was interesting that if 191 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:13,799 she were Cody and Robin, she would want to remember 192 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,799 that day too. So I'm like, oh, okay, giving an 193 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:20,960 excuse for Robin and Cody to remember this day, even 194 00:10:21,039 --> 00:10:24,200 though the whole episode is them saying that they're not 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,399 going to remember it at all. 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this as a little bit 197 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,559 of a sidebar, and definitely want to kick it to 198 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:35,279 everybody in the comments. If it's not about the kids, okay, 199 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,879 And if it's about something else, what do we think 200 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:42,840 it's truly about, Because to me, it would either be 201 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,200 because they truly feel that they're soulmates and it's important 202 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,840 that they are legally married to each other because they 203 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:53,639 are so much in love, or there's something even more 204 00:10:53,759 --> 00:10:57,240 going on. And I'm wondering if it's possible at this 205 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,799 point in the timeline, and we're in twenty fourteen, Like 206 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:04,000 is Robin and is Cody already thinking about how they 207 00:11:04,039 --> 00:11:08,000 can take over this family in terms of legalities, in 208 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,600 terms of finances in particular, Like do we think this 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,919 is a master plan, is what I'm asking? Or do 210 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,200 we think it's just about love and the cats? What's 211 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:19,840 the vibe? 212 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: It's kind of hard because I think that they're evil people, 213 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,519 So I'm like it is sinister, like there is a 214 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:29,279 master plan to take over the family and take over 215 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,159 the finances, but I think I don't think they're able 216 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,159 to do that because if we fast forward throughout the seasons, 217 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,320 like the other wives still have somewhat of a financial 218 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,519 independence and they still have access to some of the money, 219 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:43,799 I think it might. 220 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:47,279 Speaker 1: Robin legally has more now and Mary didn't assert any 221 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,639 of her power in the divorce. Yeah, she didn't ask 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,879 for half, She didn't ask for anything to be deeded 223 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 over to her. So now Robin is in the power position. 224 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like more kind like power of attorney. 225 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,159 I think Robin wanted to be able to make the 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,320 decisions over Cody, and then Cody be able to make 227 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,799 the decisions over Robin. So in that way, she doesn't 228 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,840 have to worry about the other three bitches and their 229 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:11,679 families and stuff and their legal power of anything. And 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,639 she definitely doesn't have to worry about Mary, because they 231 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,440 do bring that up in this episode about power of attorney, 232 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,919 Like Robin brings it up and says, you know, I 233 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,200 know that it's a big responsibility that once I get 234 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,120 married to Cody, like I will have to make the 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,480 decisions in case something happens to him, and like, I 236 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:30,600 take that very seriously. So she's aware of that. 237 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Ye, And it's more than power of attorney though. Now 238 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:35,919 she has access to half of whatever Cody has access to, 239 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,360 and Cody has access to half of what those three 240 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:42,320 women exactly have, and so that means now Robin has 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,519 a quarter of that right. 242 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:44,759 Speaker 2: So she gets to have it. 243 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm just wondering what everybody thinks. Do we 244 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,080 think that she's thinking like that now in twenty fourteen? 245 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like if they're planning for that now, God, 246 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:55,759 I'm like, well, what do. 247 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: You have though? 248 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,879 Speaker 2: Like Cody's fucking broke. Cody doesn't have a job, you 249 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,600 don't work, you know, like what are you going to have? 250 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,320 You have this two point one million dollar McMansion for sure, 251 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,639 but like how are you going to afford your house 252 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:08,639 payments and stuff? 253 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: Well? Right now, they're sitting pretty and they're doing fine. 254 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:14,919 How many episodes it was in the last two seasons, Yeah, 255 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,639 I have like forty or fifty episodes. They're being paid 256 00:13:17,639 --> 00:13:21,320 probably forty thousand each or more. So they're sitting pretty 257 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,080 and she's been sitting pretty for over ten years twelve 258 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:25,159 years now for now. 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: But it's like the Tower of Bebylon. Yeah, yes, bitch, yes, 260 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,919 So I'm just waiting for that to happen. What do 261 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,159 y'all think? I do think you're right, there's got to 262 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:34,559 be some kind of power play there. 263 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's about the kids. I don't think 264 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,840 it's just about love. I think that they've both been 265 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:40,759 planning things right now in twenty fourteen. 266 00:13:40,919 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that for sure. And so after 267 00:13:43,879 --> 00:13:47,120 their little conversation in Robin's backyard, then we shift gears 268 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,279 entirely where we have Janelle who's going over to Mary's 269 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,039 haunted house to talk about going to counseling with her. 270 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,320 And this is something that Janelle has kind of mentioned 271 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,639 a little bit in the last few episodes. You know, 272 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,720 she's been seeing the family counselor Nancy individually, and she 273 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,360 is ready to take the step to try and heal 274 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,159 and mentor relationship with Mary. Why So she goes over 275 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,840 to Mary's house and already the vibe is awkward as fuck, 276 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Like it's tense. She has to knock to enter the 277 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:23,679 house because you know, God forbid, we're family or whatever, 278 00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:26,120 we have an open door policy. We've got a knock 279 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,840 at the door. Mary opens it, she's awkward, and Janelle's like, look, 280 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,240 I don't know how to say this. I'm a little uncomfortable, 281 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,399 but I would like to try and work on things 282 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:43,000 with you and maybe go to counseling. And Mary already 283 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,960 has a stank, fucking face, and Janelle was hoping that 284 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:50,159 this would go over okay, but she wasn't necessarily sure 285 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:54,960 how Mary would react to it, because apparently, according to Janelle, 286 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,360 Mary has tried to extend all of branches in the past, 287 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,600 and Janelle has kind of blown them off or rejected 288 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:05,360 them because she wasn't necessarily ready to work on things 289 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,879 at that time. But she's ready now. So Mary invites 290 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:10,840 her in and is like, well, you want to sit down, 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,120 maybe we can talk. Janelle thinks like, oh, maybe it'll 292 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:17,600 be maybe it'll be good, and then Mary immediately is like. 293 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you? I kind of gave 294 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:23,799 up on that and I haven't really wanted that for 295 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:24,600 quite some time. 296 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, for at least the last years. 297 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Like that, they's just a nicer way to say something 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,120 like that, especially if Janelle is being authentic. Well maybe 299 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:37,639 Mary doesn't think Janelle is authentic, or maybe Mary is 300 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:40,399 dubious for some reason based on their relationship, because we 301 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,840 know that it was extremely volatile in the early years, 302 00:15:44,919 --> 00:15:47,919 and we know that in particular, Mary lashed out a 303 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,759 lot at Janelle, and so Janelle harbored offenses for a 304 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:55,759 long time, refused to reconcile. But now maybe she's ready. 305 00:15:55,759 --> 00:16:01,080 But Mary's like taking the opportunity to with hold again. 306 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: And be a bitch. Yeah, And Mary says she's been 307 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,879 in therapy for the last eight years. 308 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell, honey. 309 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: And she even says, like, I've been in therapy for 310 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,600 the last eight years, and through the last eight years, 311 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:15,799 I've become aware of the things that I've done to 312 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:19,000 hurt Janelle. So don't say that, Okay. So you went 313 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:23,080 on for how many decades completely unaware of how much 314 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,559 of a big, old fucking bitch you were and how 315 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:28,960 mean and hurtful you were to Janelle in particular, and 316 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,879 so in the last eight years you've come to realize that. 317 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:34,840 And then I guess I'm assuming in this last eight 318 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:39,039 years she's tried to extend all of branches to Janelle. 319 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,039 Janelle has rejected it or blown it off or whatever. 320 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:45,240 So I don't understand why Mary wants to sit on 321 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,399 a high horse here and be bitchy like this and 322 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,399 be like, well, you know, I've actually lost interest, Like 323 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:51,120 are you gonna. 324 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,679 Speaker 1: Stick with it? Like are you going to be open 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,559 and transparent? Like are you? I know, her walls are 326 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,000 constantly up. 327 00:16:58,159 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: And Janelle is nice about it. In the moment, She's like, well, 328 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:03,519 you know, I didn't become self aware of my own 329 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:07,160 feelings until the last year, Like I had to work 330 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,839 on actually acknowledging how I felt even all those years ago, 331 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,960 because Janelle, it seems, likes disassociated or she's completely disconnected 332 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,680 from everything because she didn't know how to deal with 333 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,480 any of it. And Janelle's really kind. She's like, you know, 334 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,400 we didn't have a lot of resources, we didn't have 335 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,319 a lot of help back then, so there was a 336 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,920 lot of things we just did wrong because we didn't 337 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:32,440 know how to handle these situations. So I'm wanting to 338 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,440 work on it with you now. And Mary's like, well, 339 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:37,960 I'm gotta think about it because I need to know 340 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,039 if I can trust you. 341 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: And based on the previews, she comes back after losing 342 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,240 her h pylori weight of thirty pounds over weeks and 343 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 tells Janelle she's gonna be okay with counseling, so she's 344 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,000 gonna make Janelle wait a long time for an answer exactly, Yeah, 345 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:57,359 which is so lame. It's kind of vindictive. Yeah, it's 346 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,759 kind of manipulative. 347 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just like, where do you get off 348 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,839 on that when you're the one that hurt Janelle. It 349 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,440 sounds like. 350 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: When I just kept thinking back as I was watching 351 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,240 this to the recent McKelty interview with Cults to Consciousness, 352 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,400 which by the way, we watched on our Patreon and 353 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,799 we reviewed. But like mckelty's like, Mary is mean. She 354 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,599 was mean, She's still mean to this day. She's a 355 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,160 mean woman. 356 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, and you know what, I can 358 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,319 see it. 359 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: I fucking believe it, especially if it took you, I 360 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,599 don't know, however many years to realize. 361 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm abusive, I guess, yeah. 362 00:18:32,839 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: Which is just crazy to me. I'm like, how can 363 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:38,880 you go through life that long, acting and reacting the 364 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,319 way that you do, and then not realize until you're 365 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,319 in your forties that you were being a bitch? Like okay, 366 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:49,039 miss me with that. And so after Janelle leaves, then 367 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:52,000 it's like the next day or whatever, Mary gets an 368 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,519 email that the divorce papers are finalized. She's in her 369 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:59,119 sad little office in her haunted house, all by her lonesome, 370 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,599 and she's feeling a lot, obviously because it's kind of 371 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,200 a big deal to have these divorce papers finalized and 372 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,480 to read the legal language, which is just crazy and 373 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:13,920 basically Mary gave up all her rights when this divorce, 374 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,000 which is so fun. 375 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: She's well done. 376 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,839 Speaker 2: She's so stupid. And Mary does say to the cameras 377 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,000 that she is kind of upset by how much this 378 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:28,599 has made her so emotional, like everything that's brought up 379 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:31,000 from this divorce, Like she's like, shouldn't be this way 380 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:33,279 because I know we're still married. We have a little 381 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:37,839 conversation about eternal marriages and what aub believes and blah 382 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,119 blah blah. We have to hear from all of the 383 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,279 other wives and how their marriages are still valid and 384 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,000 still true. 385 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: It's my truth. 386 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: There's a reason Mary is this emotional, and it's because, 387 00:19:53,720 --> 00:20:00,400 vibrationally speaking and in the energy, she knows what's going on. Yeah, 388 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:03,480 And we believe that Robin and Cody behind the scenes 389 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,839 have been pressuring Mary, and Christine confirmed this in her 390 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,480 recent book. They were pressuring Mary to legally divorce Cody, 391 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:19,319 and so she knows intuitively or just straightforwardly that she's 392 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,960 been pressured to do this. There's a reason for that. 393 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,559 And as much as Cody might have promised that their 394 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:26,759 marriage was going to stay the same or get even better, 395 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,359 she does not believe it and that is why she 396 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,400 is so mournful. 397 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: Of course, yes, And it's a big deal regardless, like 398 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:35,559 even if they did have a healthy marriage at this 399 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,240 point in time, like they didn't, they didn't, but even 400 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:42,319 if they did, having that legal divorce be finalized like 401 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,599 this after however many years I think it's been twenty 402 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,680 or twenty four or something like that at this point, 403 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,039 Like that's a big deal, yes, And so she's feeling 404 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,440 a lot, and she decides to call Robin over and 405 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,440 she wants Robin to be the first one to know. 406 00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:58,279 So Robin comes over and she's like, what what's up, 407 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,079 Like why did you call me? And she acts all 408 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,680 clueless or whatever, and Mary tells her it's final. Robin 409 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,880 immediately looks uncomfortable, and then she says to the camera 410 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:12,559 something like, you know, this isn't proper. Cody has to 411 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:14,640 be here. I don't know why she called me first, 412 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,200 which I thought was kind of interesting. So I'm like, well, 413 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,920 you're a part of the. 414 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Process and your friends. 415 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,279 Speaker 2: You guys are friends at this point, so like, yeah, 416 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,440 of course she's gonna call you because she can relate 417 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,599 to you more on emotional level than Cody. And then 418 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:31,720 when she inevitably calls Cody over right after she tells him, yeah, 419 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,319 the divorce is final, and he's like okay, like no 420 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,880 big deal, no comfort or anything. He doesn't even go 421 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,880 up to Hugger. He just sits there and he's like, 422 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,440 all right, cool. So now on process too, we gotta 423 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,400 get married, and then process three, we gotta adopt them kids. 424 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440 And he's just very clinical about it. I think he's 425 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,200 putting on that as a as a facade. 426 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely performative. He wants everybody to think that 427 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,480 it doesn't matter to him that he's gonna be marrying Robin. Now, 428 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:04,240 it's not that special. It's just a legality. It's perfunctory. Yeah, 429 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,119 but it's a show. It is a show. It's a 430 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,519 performance totally. And I think Mary can see right through it. 431 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: For sure, totally because when they're in their living room, 432 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,599 the three of them, Mary brings up, I've decided actually 433 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,039 that I do want to be a part of your 434 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,720 guys's marriage ceremony. I think that that would be really great. 435 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,400 I've thought about it. I know I've been emotional, but 436 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,160 I think I can put my emotions aside and I 437 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,079 want to be there because we're a team and this 438 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,920 is a team decision and whatever, and Robin agrees on 439 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:34,000 camera right performatively, she. 440 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Says, they have already talked about it though, and you 441 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,599 know it behind the scenes beforehand totally. 442 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: And you can even tell with Robin, even though she's 443 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,359 putting on this performance, like she agrees and is in 444 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,799 support of Mary being there, you can tell her and 445 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:51,880 Cody have discussed this ahead of time. And Cody, of 446 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,039 course is the one that brings it up. He's like, well, actually, 447 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,319 I've been thinking about it, and we don't want you there. 448 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: You're not allowed, right, And the way he frames it 449 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,359 is like, if you're going to be there, then Leon's 450 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,079 going to be there, you know, if the kids are 451 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,200 going to be there, then the other kids are going 452 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,880 to want to be there. And if you're going to 453 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,880 be there as an og wife, then the other two 454 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960 will want to be there. Maybe, like and it becomes 455 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,559 this bigger thing than I want it to be, because again, 456 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:22,000 we just want to emphasize how much of not of 457 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:26,039 a thing this is. Yeah, but what's really happening underneath 458 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:28,680 all of that is Mary, You're not invited. This is 459 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,640 going to be our actual sacred ceremony that we're going 460 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,759 to share together and you're not going to be there exactly. 461 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000 We never wanted you there to begin with. 462 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: We were actually glad when you said you didn't want 463 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,200 to be there, because we had already planned for this 464 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,519 to be a beautiful ceremony. So it's crazy how quickly 465 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:49,519 he shot that down and how much of a discussion 466 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,799 we have about his reasoning for it. And like, you know, 467 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,079 on the surface, I could understand it, because he doesn't 468 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,119 want it to be a big wedding and he doesn't 469 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,599 want a thousand people at the county off watching their 470 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,480 little elopement. I get it, but I don't believe it. 471 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:08,160 I don't believe it at all. And at the very least, 472 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,119 you could have just had Mary. 473 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:12,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have just three of you. She could 474 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,799 have been the witness. 475 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: Yep. 476 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: He does bring up the fact that Robin apparently wanted 477 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,039 her kids there with her and Cody, and then Cody's like, well, 478 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,200 but then I'm thinking, you know, Leon's got to be there, 479 00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:26,039 and Mary and blah blah blah and all these people, 480 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880 and that's too much. And I'm just like, huh, of 481 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,799 course Robin would want her kids there, and of course 482 00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:34,680 she's framing it like I want the kids there because 483 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,799 this is really about them, it's about the adoption. But 484 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:42,960 I think Robin, the other sinister plot over everything, is like. 485 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: This is our family. 486 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,319 Speaker 2: We're the real family, y'all are not a part of it. 487 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:47,759 Speaker 3: M h. 488 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,039 Speaker 2: And so Mary feels rejected in this moment because she 489 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,640 had come to terms with being there and Cody told 490 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,400 her no, and Cody's like, you're not being rejected Mary, 491 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,359 Like it's not a big deal, Like this isn't no wedding, 492 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,920 this isn't a ceremony. We're not going to remember the date. 493 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,000 It's not important at all. We already had our wedding. 494 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: It's done. 495 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: Mary, you've been had, Honey, you've been bam bozo. 496 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: It's so bad. Then, of course, Robin, being the manipulative 497 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,920 shrew that she is, she's like, well, I'm. 498 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: So confused because this is an active unity, not an 499 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:25,240 active separation. And I actually agree with Mary being there. 500 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: And Cody's like, no, I'm the patriarch. We're not gonna 501 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:31,960 have it. And Robin's like, okay, all right, I'll accept it. 502 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,079 But you know, when they're home alone together, she's. 503 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Like, great job, I'm gonna give you a blow week exactly. 504 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,559 Speaker 2: It's crazy. And so then we have another time skip. 505 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,079 It's been over four weeks since the divorce has been finalized, 506 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,200 and now Robin and Cody are going to get married. 507 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,000 And my thought is, like, didn't you want to get 508 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,839 married like right away? Like wasn't the whole point of 509 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,359 like getting divorced having it be finalized so that way 510 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,240 you could get married immediately. Why wait such a long 511 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:09,799 time to draw it out. And when we see them 512 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,039 finally getting married, Cody and Robin drive separately to an 513 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,400 undisclosed location meet up, and then they get in Cody's 514 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200 car to drive to the county office, all secret like 515 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,640 because they don't want anybody to know where it's at. 516 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:27,160 They don't want any of the family to know what 517 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,599 the day is they I mean, apparently nobody knows that 518 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 this day is the day that Cody and Robin got married, 519 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,440 so it is super secret. So they meet up, they 520 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,720 go to the county office. They're also dressed up. Yeah fancy, 521 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,920 like fancy, Yeah, Cole's fancy right exactly. It's nothing crazy, 522 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,559 but like they're wearing nice clothes. It's not like they're 523 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,160 wearing like pajama pants or whatever, go into the county office. 524 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:55,960 Cody's got his hair slicked back. She's got her hair 525 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,119 and makeup done, and her nail's done. Cody has a 526 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,079 camera bag. We're pretending like he's not carrying that, but 527 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920 he is totally carrying a camera bag. And then they 528 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,960 go into the county office. Cameras were not allowed apparently, 529 00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,640 and they get married, and then we hear from Cody 530 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,079 and Robin on the couch saying it was very lackluster, 531 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,920 which is what they wanted. There was no pomp and circumstance. 532 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,680 But I'm like, okay. And I was actually on Reddit 533 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:27,720 and people had said that Robin has the marriage license 534 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,960 or the marriage certificate framed in her house really from 535 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,400 this day, oh man, that people have sleuthed so she 536 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,759 hasn't framed, which means that there's probably pictures of this day, 537 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,279 of course that she has framed or like put in 538 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,559 a photo album or whatever. And I was like looking 539 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,759 up the anniversary dates because I was trying to see 540 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:50,359 if anybody made any correlations. Like I wondered if they 541 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,359 had waited four weeks for a specific day, for like 542 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,799 a special day for them, maybe it's a day that 543 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,960 means something special to Cody and Robin. 544 00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: Well, Robin is a lee U and I looked at 545 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,559 the date stamp on the legal divorce. It was like 546 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,839 September seventeenth, twenty fourteen or something like that. Four weeks 547 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,440 later would be sometime in October. Yeah, And is that 548 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:15,680 when they got married or did they get married in November? Well? 549 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: I think it. Google says December because they had two 550 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,359 weeks to wait for the or two plus weeks to 551 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,400 wait for the divorce to be final, and then it 552 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880 was four weeks after the divorce being final, so I 553 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,759 think that would push it into December. Google said they 554 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:31,200 got married on like December eleventh or something like that 555 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,960 of twenty fourteen. So I don't know if that means 556 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200 anything special to Cody and Robin, but my psychic vibe 557 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680 is that it does. Probably they probably waited for a 558 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,720 specific day that they like picked out or whatever, and 559 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,880 this is their real marriage or something, because why else 560 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,880 bring the cameras. 561 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,799 Speaker 1: It's so diabolically, it's so crazy, just lying to everybody's 562 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240 face in the family who cares about us? No, Yeah, 563 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,599 like lying to the entire family, lying to marry de 564 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:01,359 emphasizing the sacredness of that day and then going out 565 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,559 of their way to be so secretive about it and 566 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,799 frame things and take pictures and dressed up and were 567 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:07,519 their kids there. 568 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,799 Speaker 2: I was also thinking that too, because she drove there 569 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,039 in her minivan, right, So I'm like, what if the 570 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,559 kids were told to like keep their heads down, you know, 571 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,240 like we're gonna transfer over into Cody's shitty lexus, right pretend, 572 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,240 or maybe they told the camera crew like we don't 573 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480 want the kids to be on film or something. I 574 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,839 wouldn't put it past them to have the kids there, 575 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,559 but yeah, this whole thing felt really diabolical. And then 576 00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,359 after they get married, you know, they're all very lovey 577 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480 dovey about it. I think they're in the parking lot 578 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,480 or something and Cody says congratulations to Robin for getting 579 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,119 married to him, And it's just so gross. And I 580 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:49,279 can't imagine how the og wives felt watching this back 581 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:52,000 like when the original episodes aired, because I would be 582 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,559 so upset. But I know that, like at this time, 583 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,920 the wives and the family are manipulated to think that 584 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,279 it was supposed to be seen because they didn't want 585 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:01,960 to make a big. 586 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: Deal about it. 587 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just reminded me of Season one 588 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,680 with the wedding dress, and now they were very secretive 589 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,720 about that, and now that really hurt Christine in particular. 590 00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,440 Like I think, whether they're going to show this on 591 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,119 camera or not, which I doubt that they will, but 592 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,279 I think it's going to hurt at least Christine. It 593 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,440 is hurting Mary. Mary did want to be there, and 594 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,000 she expressed that, and after everything she did for you, 595 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,279 you could have at least thrown her that little bone 596 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:33,799 to make her feel like she was a part of 597 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,839 this thing, but you didn't, yeh. Like I would imagine 598 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,240 there was hurt across the. 599 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Board one hundred percent. I mean, the whole thing is 600 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,799 just terrible. I do know that when they have the 601 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,279 kids get adopted, they do invite the whole family, So 602 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:50,400 the entire family fills up the whole courtroom and everything, 603 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,599 and so they do make them a part of that process. 604 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,960 And I think at that time maybe the family probably 605 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,240 just used their cognitive dissonance. They're like, Okay, even though 606 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,279 this whole situation feels weird, at least we're involved in 607 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,519 the adoption process, and it's like really great for the family. 608 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,440 But we know as the viewers that this is where 609 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,119 everything starts to go downhill. Cody starts like neglecting all 610 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,319 of the wives and all of the rest of his children. 611 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: And I forget whether we read about it in Christine's 612 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,200 book or whether Mary addressed this directly, but Cody had 613 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,279 been promising Mary up unto this point, up into the divorce, 614 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,279 like if you do this, like it's it's going to 615 00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,599 be so great. And I promise you. I know we're 616 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,799 having issues right now, we don't spend a ton of 617 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,160 time together, but I'm going to be coming over more. 618 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,480 It's going to clear the way for so much more 619 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:41,319 peace in the family. That's going to be so good 620 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,720 for me and you, and I really want to I 621 00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,119 really want to get closer with you, Like he made 622 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,240 her these promises that he was going to really focus 623 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,559 his attention on their union, and then I think in 624 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Christine's book she's like, within a couple of weeks he 625 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,079 was ghosting her. Oh yeah, he was gone, gone gone. 626 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,319 Speaker 2: I think talked about it in her book, and I 627 00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,920 think Mary also mentioned it in the most recent seasons. 628 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,799 Speaker 1: I don't think did she connect it to the actual divorce. 629 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:09,640 I think so Okay, I don't remember. 630 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 631 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,559 Speaker 2: Because we've watched so much of this and so much 632 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,119 much of it is like repetitive crap. But like, yeah, 633 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,119 I think she did mention it a little bit because 634 00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:20,200 they talked about Cody slowly moving all of his shit 635 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,000 out yea, And so it was after the divorce like 636 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,880 where he started moving everything out. Of course, you know, 637 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,079 people want to say it was the Cafish and that 638 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,799 was the reason. 639 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: It's like, no, well, and Cody claims that she kicked 640 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,200 him out right, but maybe it was like the final 641 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480 box of things that he had in her house. She's like, 642 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,039 just get it out of here already. I don't know. 643 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,519 We're going to watch it hopefully this season and next season. 644 00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,880 But it's just really sad because in this moment, in 645 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,839 this episode and in the last episode, like we can 646 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,480 see Mary believing them, yep, believing what they're selling to her, 647 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,039 and in very short order she's going to be sucking 648 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,440 on a banana in a tub with her h Pylori. Yeah, 649 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,559 because she realizes these people took me for a. 650 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Well, and I wouldn't put it past it, Like I 651 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,640 think at this point in time, this is when Cody 652 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240 and Mary stopped having sex. I want to say, no, 653 00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,960 it was before this, It was like way before the Yeah, 654 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,359 so like you're not having sex, you're not having an 655 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,039 intimate marriage, you don't really hang out with her very often, 656 00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:18,319 you don't take her out on dates. 657 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: He does not like her. 658 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,079 Speaker 2: And then we haven't even touched her. Yeah, it's like 659 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640 it's terrible, Like no wonder. Mary's having a hard time 660 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,559 and she's going through menopause and her kid moved out, 661 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:28,640 so she's alone in this. 662 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: She menopause right now. 663 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,279 Speaker 3: She's in her forties, so yeah, probably well, I mean 664 00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:33,160 Perry menopause. 665 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Maybe Perry menopause. Yeah, and she's going to go in. 666 00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: Their fifties, right, I don't know. Some go early, yeah, 667 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,359 mom early? 668 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:39,839 Speaker 3: Some do? 669 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,079 Speaker 2: So she she well she does. 670 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,759 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say it because I say 671 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:46,680 inappropriate things and I don't want to be offensive. But 672 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:51,000 she does kind of have like menopause face yeah, and 673 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:55,440 menopause body. So maybe she is also like extremely hormonal 674 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,640 at this time in her life and horny and just 675 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,000 say something little, let's touch it just a little bit, please. 676 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,319 Speaker 2: Just a little bit. It's really just so diabolical and 677 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,200 it just gives so much credence to the fact that 678 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,840 Cody and Robin are possessed by demons and they're evil. 679 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were bad for a long It's not 680 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,519 like COVID changed Cody. I assert that they were planning 681 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,760 this a long time before this actual divorce took place. 682 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, even up to their win their courtship, like him 683 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,360 going and spending weekends down in Saint George, like you know, 684 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,760 you guys are fucking like you're having an affair. It's 685 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,760 just so messed up. 686 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,519 Speaker 1: The whole entire stace, siphoning the money at this time, Allegedly, 687 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,920 he's funneling resources, he's collecting his assets. It's all happening 688 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,320 right about now because now they're legally married, they can 689 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920 do it, yep, exactly. And then Janelle's going to cover 690 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,320 for them. 691 00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: Yep, she totally is, because he's banging her back out 692 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,719 at this point in time, and she's probably getting the 693 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960 money that she wants or whatever, and so he's satisfying her. 694 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,280 So that way she keeps the peace, or tries to 695 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,280 keep some of the peace. 696 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: She keeps this secrets to financial secrets. 697 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: That and so that's why it works out for now. 698 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: Yep, for now, it's terrible. Well, I think that concludes 699 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,480 the episode. But I know that you watched the tell all. 700 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:13,679 I did not because I could not be arsed to 701 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,960 do so. Was there like anything at all that was 702 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,400 of interest or that we don't know. 703 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: The only reason why I watched it was because it 704 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,400 said Sister. 705 00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Wives raw tell all raw. Oh my god, like. 706 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be unedited, like you know, unscripted. Whatever was it? 707 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,400 And no, and it was. It was weird because it 708 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,719 was a forty minute tell all, but it was like 709 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,320 a compilation of all of the tell alls from seasons 710 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,039 one through eight. 711 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,079 Speaker 1: Okay, so it was like. 712 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: Random like little spurts and stuff, and I'm like, this 713 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,559 is stupid. There were only a couple things that kind 714 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,760 of stood out to me when I was zoning out 715 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,320 watching this. 716 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: They did say. 717 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:53,199 Speaker 2: In one of the clips that they would still choose 718 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,760 and live their plural lifestyle even if they lost their faith, 719 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,760 even if they stopped believing and stopped going to the 720 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,679 aub church. Like they said that, and it was all 721 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,119 of the adults saying that, and of course Tameron Hall 722 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:08,760 was pushing back on it, like why, like isn't that 723 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,280 the whole point of your lifestyle is like it's a 724 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,800 religious thing, and they're like, no, we love it, we 725 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,599 love our family, and our love will trump anything else. 726 00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,480 I just thought that aged like milk, because obviously everybody 727 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:25,960 lost their faith in Seasons eighteen nineteen twenty, and they 728 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000 don't live this lifestyle at all, and they don't even 729 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:31,400 act like a big plural family, like everybody's super separate. 730 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,199 Speaker 1: Well, Mary lives the faith, Mary believes, and I think 731 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,840 Janelle got her spiritual release because she wanted to be 732 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,880 in compliance with her faith. So there's a couple of 733 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000 people still out there trying to live, trying to make 734 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:43,960 it to co lobes. 735 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: But they're not like acting like a plural family absolutely, 736 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,800 And so if that's a tenet of your faith, then 737 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,280 why don't you try to hang out together. But like 738 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,400 everybody's just on separate areas of the countries. 739 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm drinking. Yeah, everybody's drinking in the family drinking. 740 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,159 Speaker 2: And they just don't give a shit. And then the 741 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:02,960 other thing that I thought was interesting was that they 742 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,320 brought up My Sister Wives closet and at one point 743 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,000 they made a comment saying that because I think tammeron 744 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:13,400 Hall was like, do you believe this business will be successful? Like, 745 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,760 you know, you guys didn't get the investor money, Like, 746 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000 what's going on with that? And I think Cody said, 747 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,719 in the first year, my Sister wives closet made enough 748 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,559 to support one to two households in the family. So 749 00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:29,480 I'm like, huh, interesting, which means. 750 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,199 Speaker 1: So Robbin's house exactly and maybe a little bit extra 751 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,880 fake Mary or Janelle exactly. So they did bring that 752 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000 up define support grocery build. 753 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: Cody made it seem like it was enough to pay 754 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,039 all of their bills for that first year press x 755 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,400 to doubt exactly. I'm like, I don't think it made 756 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,679 that much at all. But that was it. I mean, 757 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,480 the rest of the tell all was like just pointless bullshit. 758 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,320 I think this is like one of the last ones 759 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,079 that we have with tammeron Hall or maybe we have 760 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,599 a couple more after this, but it it starts to 761 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,519 ramp up to the point where the Browns are like, 762 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:05,000 you're fired. 763 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: Right made it lady, You're not allowed. 764 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 2: Because she was pretty harsh in these tell I was 765 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,119 like she was pressing them like a journalist. 766 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: Should hello and to Sukiana, yeah, damn so that thank 767 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,320 you for taking one for the raccoon team and watching 768 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,159 that bit because I didn't. Honey, this's my job. Well, 769 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,280 is there anything else that we should say to these 770 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,400 beautiful raccoons before we get out of here? 771 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a 772 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,320 favorite go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us 773 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,440 a glowing five star review. It really helps us grew 774 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,280 the pod and we would really appreciate it, so thank 775 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,000 you very much. 776 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: We will be back this week to continue our coverage 777 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,639 of Welcome. 778 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 2: To Blaville, Welcome to Snoozeville, Welcome to weird Ville, but 779 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,800 definitely come back for that. 780 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,199 Speaker 1: We appreciate your support. Until then, please do not forget 781 00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,679 that we have nothing but love for you, and please 782 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:07,159 Speaker 2: H