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sister wives. Honey. We had a little break, just like
a one week needed to get away from a lot
more moms a little bit. And we are diving into
season nine, which is the season of the legal divorce,
the adoption of those three kids, and then the catfish. Yeah,
so I'm super and also Galvis Alston, the couple family therapy.
It goes straight to how oh and Janelle and Mary
trying their hand at therapy. Big yikes. So there's a
lot going on in this season and I can't wait
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Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into our recap of this first
episode of season nine, Beatrice, I do have to ask
you if you have any takeaways.
Speaker 2: My takeaway is that Cody and Robin totally remember this
little secret elopement that they had at the fucking county office.
Like they're acting like it doesn't matter, but they're dressed up,
they got a camera bag. I'm like, y'all, I can't.
I don't know if anybody watched this back then and
was like sussing it out, because I'm watching this and
I'm like.
Speaker 1: I can see it all. Yeah, from the perspective of
twenty twenty six, it's so clear and the hell that
we've all been through with these hoes. Yeah, you can
see the machinations and what they were doing clear after.
Now my takeaway has to do with our girl Mary Ooh,
her stank face, her hook face as we say in Hawaii,
Like just when Janelle was approaching her to see if
she could like give an olive branch and if there's
something that they can do in therapy to men their relationship,
just like, the countenance of Mary Brown was terrible, so rude,
very rude, very smug, very superior. It's as if she
feels like her alliance with Robin means she doesn't have
to get along with any other wife. Yeah, and I
don't even understand why Janelle in this moment is groveling
in front of Mary and asking for some sort of reconciliation, like,
what are we doing? Janelle? Is Cody putting you up
to this? I'm not sure what's up with that.
Speaker 2: Maybe Cody is putting her up to it because he's like,
you need to get along with all them wives, and
she's like, Okay, I guess I'll start with Mary.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was like some sort of
a plot point content manufactured by production because Janelle doesn't
really seem to want to be doing it and Mary
doesn't really want to hear it. Yeah, so I don't
know what was going on. It was very confused. But Mary,
come on, man, Mary's such a bitch, not very kind
at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So without any further ado, let's get into Sister Wives.
He's a nine episode one in toutto.
Speaker 2: A Secret Marriage and Sister Wives Unseen, which is like
supposed to be about the tell all that's attached to
this episode, which was boring.
Speaker 1: A we're not going to cover that, We're not just
gonna cover the episode.
Speaker 2: There was literally nothing interesting that was talked about in
that stupid tale. Also, in the episode, we pick up
where we left off at the end of season eight,
where we're still at the lawyer's office. We're signing the
divorce papers, which we already saw at the end of
season eight, like whatever, we have to watch Rob and
cry about it again because.
Speaker 3: It hurt her, the divorce her and she's sad for Mary.
Speaker 2: And then we have Cody and Mary going to dinner afterwards.
They're hand in hand and Cody's making sure to let
Mary know and the cameras know that we're not actually divorced.
Nothing's actually changed here. I still love you, We're still married.
And then when they're at their little restaurant, Cody tells
Mary that he's so proud of her because of her
commitment that she made to the family, and he's proud
to be married to her. And of course Mary laps
it up and it's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think, to add insult to injury, Is
it like happening in the Rainforest cafe? I thought, Are
you guys at a mall? Are you guys at the
Rainforest cafe? I thought, Like, you can't take her out
to like a nice place. You're in Vegas. There's the
whole strip in everything. You can take her to a
great meal, But no, we're going to the mall.
Speaker 2: Mary it's like a cheap, shitty cafe. That's what you deserve,
that's all you get. And then we fash flash forward
two weeks later. We're at codyum Robin's house in their
beautiful backyard that was renovated with everybody's money, and Robin says,
we need to chat. We need to talk to Mary
because the divorce papers or the divorce isn't finalized at
this point in time, but Robin has since filed adoption
paperwork or something in the state of Montana, where her
ex husband lives, and she needs to talk to Mary
about it on camera to make everybody think that this
really is just about the kids. It's not about Cody
and Robin wanting to get married.
Speaker 1: Did I wink out and go to some other timeline,
because I don't remember that being a part of the
conversation at all. I thought it was like more about
Mary going to the actual ceremony for Cody and Robin.
I know becomes that, but I think I don't remember
the adoption. How can she put into adopt those kids
if their divorce is not final and their marriage hasn't
happened yet. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a really weird, non sequitur thing
for her to bring up because they hadn't really discussed
that yet and it's only been two weeks since the
legal divorce. But I think the reason why she brought
it up was for the cameras and for the fans
to be like, no, no, no, just remember this is
the anchoring thread here that it's all about the kids.
But then it does turn into a conversation about Cody
and Robin's legal marriage.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a comment that Robin made. It must
have been in this scene that I totally blanked out on,
but she said something like, yeah, we want to wait
adopt the kids because their biological father hasn't even seen
them in two years. Yes, he's been absent, that's the
word that she used. And I'm thinking, but haven't you
alienated him from his kids? Yeah, didn't you move from
Saint George to Lehigh down to Vegas? I mean, has
he had the opportunity to have sufficient visitation with his kids?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You just want to paint it like this picture, as
if you've been abandoned, And ultimately she does allude to
being abused and all of these things, but like, we
never get to hear from the kids in terms of
their perception of their father, and certainly we never hear
from the dad, but like we're just like, don't do that. Yeah,
don't act like he's absent when we all know you've
isolated him from his kids.
Speaker 2: It felt really icky to me. And then she was
also talking about how Cody is their real dad. She's like,
you know, he's been there the last two years, he's
been there. He's their real dad. And then I think
we had like a little scene with Robin's kids where
they talked about Cody being their dad, and it was
kind of a non sequitur. But I'm just like, man,
this whole thing feels really gross to me. And like,
when you think about it from the perspective of Codium
Robin just wanted to get married. Like they really are
just using the kids as pawns and cover a shield
for this, and it's really icky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really really relative.
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, the moms of the family
are going to go along with it because they care
about the kids and they care about the family. But
in reality, it's really just for codyum Robin to seal
their marriage together. But when they start talking about getting
married and how it's just paperwork, it's just shuffling around paperwork,
it's legalities, like it doesn't mean anything. Mary chimes in
and says, you know, I actually don't want to be
a part of that. I don't want to be there.
I don't want to know when you guys get married
because I'm having a lot of emotions that are coming
up from this whole legal divorce that I'm kind of
surprised by. And she says to the cameras, you know,
I don't really trust myself to be a part of
this problem because you know, I'm going to think, well,
now you have two anniversaries. Now you've got two dates
that you'll want to remember. And Mary does stay to
the camera too, which I thought was interesting that if
she were Cody and Robin, she would want to remember
that day too. So I'm like, oh, okay, giving an
excuse for Robin and Cody to remember this day, even
though the whole episode is them saying that they're not
going to remember it at all.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this as a little bit
of a sidebar, and definitely want to kick it to
everybody in the comments. If it's not about the kids, okay,
And if it's about something else, what do we think
it's truly about, Because to me, it would either be
because they truly feel that they're soulmates and it's important
that they are legally married to each other because they
are so much in love, or there's something even more
going on. And I'm wondering if it's possible at this
point in the timeline, and we're in twenty fourteen, Like
is Robin and is Cody already thinking about how they
can take over this family in terms of legalities, in
terms of finances in particular, Like do we think this
is a master plan, is what I'm asking? Or do
we think it's just about love and the cats? What's
the vibe?
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard because I think that they're evil people,
So I'm like it is sinister, like there is a
master plan to take over the family and take over
the finances, but I think I don't think they're able
to do that because if we fast forward throughout the seasons,
like the other wives still have somewhat of a financial
independence and they still have access to some of the money,
I think it might.
Speaker 1: Robin legally has more now and Mary didn't assert any
of her power in the divorce. Yeah, she didn't ask
for half, She didn't ask for anything to be deeded
over to her. So now Robin is in the power position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like more kind like power of attorney.
I think Robin wanted to be able to make the
decisions over Cody, and then Cody be able to make
the decisions over Robin. So in that way, she doesn't
have to worry about the other three bitches and their
families and stuff and their legal power of anything. And
she definitely doesn't have to worry about Mary, because they
do bring that up in this episode about power of attorney,
Like Robin brings it up and says, you know, I
know that it's a big responsibility that once I get
married to Cody, like I will have to make the
decisions in case something happens to him, and like, I
take that very seriously. So she's aware of that.
Speaker 1: Ye, And it's more than power of attorney though. Now
she has access to half of whatever Cody has access to,
and Cody has access to half of what those three
women exactly have, and so that means now Robin has
a quarter of that right.
Speaker 2: So she gets to have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm just wondering what everybody thinks. Do we
think that she's thinking like that now in twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like if they're planning for that now, God,
I'm like, well, what do.
Speaker 1: You have though?
Speaker 2: Like Cody's fucking broke. Cody doesn't have a job, you
don't work, you know, like what are you going to have?
You have this two point one million dollar McMansion for sure,
but like how are you going to afford your house
payments and stuff?
Speaker 1: Well? Right now, they're sitting pretty and they're doing fine.
How many episodes it was in the last two seasons, Yeah,
I have like forty or fifty episodes. They're being paid
probably forty thousand each or more. So they're sitting pretty
and she's been sitting pretty for over ten years twelve
years now for now.
Speaker 2: But it's like the Tower of Bebylon. Yeah, yes, bitch, yes,
So I'm just waiting for that to happen. What do
y'all think? I do think you're right, there's got to
be some kind of power play there.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about the kids. I don't think
it's just about love. I think that they've both been
planning things right now in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that for sure. And so after
their little conversation in Robin's backyard, then we shift gears
entirely where we have Janelle who's going over to Mary's
haunted house to talk about going to counseling with her.
And this is something that Janelle has kind of mentioned
a little bit in the last few episodes. You know,
she's been seeing the family counselor Nancy individually, and she
is ready to take the step to try and heal
and mentor relationship with Mary. Why So she goes over
to Mary's house and already the vibe is awkward as fuck,
Like it's tense. She has to knock to enter the
house because you know, God forbid, we're family or whatever,
we have an open door policy. We've got a knock
at the door. Mary opens it, she's awkward, and Janelle's like, look,
I don't know how to say this. I'm a little uncomfortable,
but I would like to try and work on things
with you and maybe go to counseling. And Mary already
has a stank, fucking face, and Janelle was hoping that
this would go over okay, but she wasn't necessarily sure
how Mary would react to it, because apparently, according to Janelle,
Mary has tried to extend all of branches in the past,
and Janelle has kind of blown them off or rejected
them because she wasn't necessarily ready to work on things
at that time. But she's ready now. So Mary invites
her in and is like, well, you want to sit down,
maybe we can talk. Janelle thinks like, oh, maybe it'll
be maybe it'll be good, and then Mary immediately is like.
Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you? I kind of gave
up on that and I haven't really wanted that for
quite some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for at least the last years.
Speaker 1: Like that, they's just a nicer way to say something
like that, especially if Janelle is being authentic. Well maybe
Mary doesn't think Janelle is authentic, or maybe Mary is
dubious for some reason based on their relationship, because we
know that it was extremely volatile in the early years,
and we know that in particular, Mary lashed out a
lot at Janelle, and so Janelle harbored offenses for a
long time, refused to reconcile. But now maybe she's ready.
But Mary's like taking the opportunity to with hold again.
Speaker 2: And be a bitch. Yeah, And Mary says she's been
in therapy for the last eight years.
Speaker 1: I can't tell, honey.
Speaker 2: And she even says, like, I've been in therapy for
the last eight years, and through the last eight years,
I've become aware of the things that I've done to
hurt Janelle. So don't say that, Okay. So you went
on for how many decades completely unaware of how much
of a big, old fucking bitch you were and how
mean and hurtful you were to Janelle in particular, and
so in the last eight years you've come to realize that.
And then I guess I'm assuming in this last eight
years she's tried to extend all of branches to Janelle.
Janelle has rejected it or blown it off or whatever.
So I don't understand why Mary wants to sit on
a high horse here and be bitchy like this and
be like, well, you know, I've actually lost interest, Like
are you gonna.
Speaker 1: Stick with it? Like are you going to be open
and transparent? Like are you? I know, her walls are
constantly up.
Speaker 2: And Janelle is nice about it. In the moment, She's like, well,
you know, I didn't become self aware of my own
feelings until the last year, Like I had to work
on actually acknowledging how I felt even all those years ago,
because Janelle, it seems, likes disassociated or she's completely disconnected
from everything because she didn't know how to deal with
any of it. And Janelle's really kind. She's like, you know,
we didn't have a lot of resources, we didn't have
a lot of help back then, so there was a
lot of things we just did wrong because we didn't
know how to handle these situations. So I'm wanting to
work on it with you now. And Mary's like, well,
I'm gotta think about it because I need to know
if I can trust you.
Speaker 1: And based on the previews, she comes back after losing
her h pylori weight of thirty pounds over weeks and
tells Janelle she's gonna be okay with counseling, so she's
gonna make Janelle wait a long time for an answer exactly, Yeah,
which is so lame. It's kind of vindictive. Yeah, it's
kind of manipulative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just like, where do you get off
on that when you're the one that hurt Janelle. It
sounds like.
Speaker 1: When I just kept thinking back as I was watching
this to the recent McKelty interview with Cults to Consciousness,
which by the way, we watched on our Patreon and
we reviewed. But like mckelty's like, Mary is mean. She
was mean, She's still mean to this day. She's a
mean woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, and you know what, I can
see it.
Speaker 2: I fucking believe it, especially if it took you, I
don't know, however many years to realize.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm abusive, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2: Which is just crazy to me. I'm like, how can
you go through life that long, acting and reacting the
way that you do, and then not realize until you're
in your forties that you were being a bitch? Like okay,
miss me with that. And so after Janelle leaves, then
it's like the next day or whatever, Mary gets an
email that the divorce papers are finalized. She's in her
sad little office in her haunted house, all by her lonesome,
and she's feeling a lot, obviously because it's kind of
a big deal to have these divorce papers finalized and
to read the legal language, which is just crazy and
basically Mary gave up all her rights when this divorce,
which is so fun.
Speaker 1: She's well done.
Speaker 2: She's so stupid. And Mary does say to the cameras
that she is kind of upset by how much this
has made her so emotional, like everything that's brought up
from this divorce, Like she's like, shouldn't be this way
because I know we're still married. We have a little
conversation about eternal marriages and what aub believes and blah
blah blah. We have to hear from all of the
other wives and how their marriages are still valid and
still true.
Speaker 3: It's my truth.
Speaker 1: There's a reason Mary is this emotional, and it's because,
vibrationally speaking and in the energy, she knows what's going on. Yeah,
And we believe that Robin and Cody behind the scenes
have been pressuring Mary, and Christine confirmed this in her
recent book. They were pressuring Mary to legally divorce Cody,
and so she knows intuitively or just straightforwardly that she's
been pressured to do this. There's a reason for that.
And as much as Cody might have promised that their
marriage was going to stay the same or get even better,
she does not believe it and that is why she
is so mournful.
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, And it's a big deal regardless, like
even if they did have a healthy marriage at this
point in time, like they didn't, they didn't, but even
if they did, having that legal divorce be finalized like
this after however many years I think it's been twenty
or twenty four or something like that at this point,
Like that's a big deal, yes, And so she's feeling
a lot, and she decides to call Robin over and
she wants Robin to be the first one to know.
So Robin comes over and she's like, what what's up,
Like why did you call me? And she acts all
clueless or whatever, and Mary tells her it's final. Robin
immediately looks uncomfortable, and then she says to the camera
something like, you know, this isn't proper. Cody has to
be here. I don't know why she called me first,
which I thought was kind of interesting. So I'm like, well,
you're a part of the.
Speaker 1: Process and your friends.
Speaker 2: You guys are friends at this point, so like, yeah,
of course she's gonna call you because she can relate
to you more on emotional level than Cody. And then
when she inevitably calls Cody over right after she tells him, yeah,
the divorce is final, and he's like okay, like no
big deal, no comfort or anything. He doesn't even go
up to Hugger. He just sits there and he's like,
all right, cool. So now on process too, we gotta
get married, and then process three, we gotta adopt them kids.
And he's just very clinical about it. I think he's
putting on that as a as a facade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely performative. He wants everybody to think that
it doesn't matter to him that he's gonna be marrying Robin. Now,
it's not that special. It's just a legality. It's perfunctory. Yeah,
but it's a show. It is a show. It's a
performance totally. And I think Mary can see right through it.
Speaker 2: For sure, totally because when they're in their living room,
the three of them, Mary brings up, I've decided actually
that I do want to be a part of your
guys's marriage ceremony. I think that that would be really great.
I've thought about it. I know I've been emotional, but
I think I can put my emotions aside and I
want to be there because we're a team and this
is a team decision and whatever, and Robin agrees on
camera right performatively, she.
Speaker 1: Says, they have already talked about it though, and you
know it behind the scenes beforehand totally.
Speaker 2: And you can even tell with Robin, even though she's
putting on this performance, like she agrees and is in
support of Mary being there, you can tell her and
Cody have discussed this ahead of time. And Cody, of
course is the one that brings it up. He's like, well, actually,
I've been thinking about it, and we don't want you there.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed, right, And the way he frames it
is like, if you're going to be there, then Leon's
going to be there, you know, if the kids are
going to be there, then the other kids are going
to want to be there. And if you're going to
be there as an og wife, then the other two
will want to be there. Maybe, like and it becomes
this bigger thing than I want it to be, because again,
we just want to emphasize how much of not of
a thing this is. Yeah, but what's really happening underneath
all of that is Mary, You're not invited. This is
going to be our actual sacred ceremony that we're going
to share together and you're not going to be there exactly.
We never wanted you there to begin with.
Speaker 2: We were actually glad when you said you didn't want
to be there, because we had already planned for this
to be a beautiful ceremony. So it's crazy how quickly
he shot that down and how much of a discussion
we have about his reasoning for it. And like, you know,
on the surface, I could understand it, because he doesn't
want it to be a big wedding and he doesn't
want a thousand people at the county off watching their
little elopement. I get it, but I don't believe it.
I don't believe it at all. And at the very least,
you could have just had Mary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have just three of you. She could
have been the witness.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: He does bring up the fact that Robin apparently wanted
her kids there with her and Cody, and then Cody's like, well,
but then I'm thinking, you know, Leon's got to be there,
and Mary and blah blah blah and all these people,
and that's too much. And I'm just like, huh, of
course Robin would want her kids there, and of course
she's framing it like I want the kids there because
this is really about them, it's about the adoption. But
I think Robin, the other sinister plot over everything, is like.
Speaker 1: This is our family.
Speaker 2: We're the real family, y'all are not a part of it.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 2: And so Mary feels rejected in this moment because she
had come to terms with being there and Cody told
her no, and Cody's like, you're not being rejected Mary,
Like it's not a big deal, Like this isn't no wedding,
this isn't a ceremony. We're not going to remember the date.
It's not important at all. We already had our wedding.
Speaker 3: It's done.
Speaker 1: Mary, you've been had, Honey, you've been bam bozo.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. Then, of course, Robin, being the manipulative
shrew that she is, she's like, well, I'm.
Speaker 3: So confused because this is an active unity, not an
active separation. And I actually agree with Mary being there.
Speaker 2: And Cody's like, no, I'm the patriarch. We're not gonna
have it. And Robin's like, okay, all right, I'll accept it.
But you know, when they're home alone together, she's.
Speaker 1: Like, great job, I'm gonna give you a blow week exactly.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. And so then we have another time skip.
It's been over four weeks since the divorce has been finalized,
and now Robin and Cody are going to get married.
And my thought is, like, didn't you want to get
married like right away? Like wasn't the whole point of
like getting divorced having it be finalized so that way
you could get married immediately. Why wait such a long
time to draw it out. And when we see them
finally getting married, Cody and Robin drive separately to an
undisclosed location meet up, and then they get in Cody's
car to drive to the county office, all secret like
because they don't want anybody to know where it's at.
They don't want any of the family to know what
the day is they I mean, apparently nobody knows that
this day is the day that Cody and Robin got married,
so it is super secret. So they meet up, they
go to the county office. They're also dressed up. Yeah fancy,
like fancy, Yeah, Cole's fancy right exactly. It's nothing crazy,
but like they're wearing nice clothes. It's not like they're
wearing like pajama pants or whatever, go into the county office.
Cody's got his hair slicked back. She's got her hair
and makeup done, and her nail's done. Cody has a
camera bag. We're pretending like he's not carrying that, but
he is totally carrying a camera bag. And then they
go into the county office. Cameras were not allowed apparently,
and they get married, and then we hear from Cody
and Robin on the couch saying it was very lackluster,
which is what they wanted. There was no pomp and circumstance.
But I'm like, okay. And I was actually on Reddit
and people had said that Robin has the marriage license
or the marriage certificate framed in her house really from
this day, oh man, that people have sleuthed so she
hasn't framed, which means that there's probably pictures of this day,
of course that she has framed or like put in
a photo album or whatever. And I was like looking
up the anniversary dates because I was trying to see
if anybody made any correlations. Like I wondered if they
had waited four weeks for a specific day, for like
a special day for them, maybe it's a day that
means something special to Cody and Robin.
Speaker 1: Well, Robin is a lee U and I looked at
the date stamp on the legal divorce. It was like
September seventeenth, twenty fourteen or something like that. Four weeks
later would be sometime in October. Yeah, And is that
when they got married or did they get married in November? Well?
Speaker 2: I think it. Google says December because they had two
weeks to wait for the or two plus weeks to
wait for the divorce to be final, and then it
was four weeks after the divorce being final, so I
think that would push it into December. Google said they
got married on like December eleventh or something like that
of twenty fourteen. So I don't know if that means
anything special to Cody and Robin, but my psychic vibe
is that it does. Probably they probably waited for a
specific day that they like picked out or whatever, and
this is their real marriage or something, because why else
bring the cameras.
Speaker 1: It's so diabolically, it's so crazy, just lying to everybody's
face in the family who cares about us? No, Yeah,
like lying to the entire family, lying to marry de
emphasizing the sacredness of that day and then going out
of their way to be so secretive about it and
frame things and take pictures and dressed up and were
their kids there.
Speaker 2: I was also thinking that too, because she drove there
in her minivan, right, So I'm like, what if the
kids were told to like keep their heads down, you know,
like we're gonna transfer over into Cody's shitty lexus, right pretend,
or maybe they told the camera crew like we don't
want the kids to be on film or something. I
wouldn't put it past them to have the kids there,
but yeah, this whole thing felt really diabolical. And then
after they get married, you know, they're all very lovey
dovey about it. I think they're in the parking lot
or something and Cody says congratulations to Robin for getting
married to him, And it's just so gross. And I
can't imagine how the og wives felt watching this back
like when the original episodes aired, because I would be
so upset. But I know that, like at this time,
the wives and the family are manipulated to think that
it was supposed to be seen because they didn't want
to make a big.
Speaker 3: Deal about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just reminded me of Season one
with the wedding dress, and now they were very secretive
about that, and now that really hurt Christine in particular.
Like I think, whether they're going to show this on
camera or not, which I doubt that they will, but
I think it's going to hurt at least Christine. It
is hurting Mary. Mary did want to be there, and
she expressed that, and after everything she did for you,
you could have at least thrown her that little bone
to make her feel like she was a part of
this thing, but you didn't, yeh. Like I would imagine
there was hurt across the.
Speaker 2: Board one hundred percent. I mean, the whole thing is
just terrible. I do know that when they have the
kids get adopted, they do invite the whole family, So
the entire family fills up the whole courtroom and everything,
and so they do make them a part of that process.
And I think at that time maybe the family probably
just used their cognitive dissonance. They're like, Okay, even though
this whole situation feels weird, at least we're involved in
the adoption process, and it's like really great for the family.
But we know as the viewers that this is where
everything starts to go downhill. Cody starts like neglecting all
of the wives and all of the rest of his children.
Speaker 1: And I forget whether we read about it in Christine's
book or whether Mary addressed this directly, but Cody had
been promising Mary up unto this point, up into the divorce,
like if you do this, like it's it's going to
be so great. And I promise you. I know we're
having issues right now, we don't spend a ton of
time together, but I'm going to be coming over more.
It's going to clear the way for so much more
peace in the family. That's going to be so good
for me and you, and I really want to I
really want to get closer with you, Like he made
her these promises that he was going to really focus
his attention on their union, and then I think in
Christine's book she's like, within a couple of weeks he
was ghosting her. Oh yeah, he was gone, gone gone.
Speaker 2: I think talked about it in her book, and I
think Mary also mentioned it in the most recent seasons.
Speaker 1: I don't think did she connect it to the actual divorce.
I think so Okay, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Because we've watched so much of this and so much
much of it is like repetitive crap. But like, yeah,
I think she did mention it a little bit because
they talked about Cody slowly moving all of his shit
out yea, And so it was after the divorce like
where he started moving everything out. Of course, you know,
people want to say it was the Cafish and that
was the reason.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, well, and Cody claims that she kicked
him out right, but maybe it was like the final
box of things that he had in her house. She's like,
just get it out of here already. I don't know.
We're going to watch it hopefully this season and next season.
But it's just really sad because in this moment, in
this episode and in the last episode, like we can
see Mary believing them, yep, believing what they're selling to her,
and in very short order she's going to be sucking
on a banana in a tub with her h Pylori. Yeah,
because she realizes these people took me for a.
Speaker 2: Well, and I wouldn't put it past it, Like I
think at this point in time, this is when Cody
and Mary stopped having sex. I want to say, no,
it was before this, It was like way before the Yeah,
so like you're not having sex, you're not having an
intimate marriage, you don't really hang out with her very often,
you don't take her out on dates.
Speaker 1: He does not like her.
Speaker 2: And then we haven't even touched her. Yeah, it's like
it's terrible, Like no wonder. Mary's having a hard time
and she's going through menopause and her kid moved out,
so she's alone in this.
Speaker 1: She menopause right now.
Speaker 3: She's in her forties, so yeah, probably well, I mean
Perry menopause.
Speaker 1: Maybe Perry menopause. Yeah, and she's going to go in.
Speaker 2: Their fifties, right, I don't know. Some go early, yeah,
mom early?
Speaker 3: Some do?
Speaker 2: So she she well she does.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say it because I say
inappropriate things and I don't want to be offensive. But
she does kind of have like menopause face yeah, and
menopause body. So maybe she is also like extremely hormonal
at this time in her life and horny and just
say something little, let's touch it just a little bit, please.
Speaker 2: Just a little bit. It's really just so diabolical and
it just gives so much credence to the fact that
Cody and Robin are possessed by demons and they're evil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were bad for a long It's not
like COVID changed Cody. I assert that they were planning
this a long time before this actual divorce took place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even up to their win their courtship, like him
going and spending weekends down in Saint George, like you know,
you guys are fucking like you're having an affair. It's
just so messed up.
Speaker 1: The whole entire stace, siphoning the money at this time, Allegedly,
he's funneling resources, he's collecting his assets. It's all happening
right about now because now they're legally married, they can
do it, yep, exactly. And then Janelle's going to cover
for them.
Speaker 2: Yep, she totally is, because he's banging her back out
at this point in time, and she's probably getting the
money that she wants or whatever, and so he's satisfying her.
So that way she keeps the peace, or tries to
keep some of the peace.
Speaker 1: She keeps this secrets to financial secrets.
Speaker 2: That and so that's why it works out for now.
Speaker 1: Yep, for now, it's terrible. Well, I think that concludes
the episode. But I know that you watched the tell all.
I did not because I could not be arsed to
do so. Was there like anything at all that was
of interest or that we don't know.
Speaker 2: The only reason why I watched it was because it
said Sister.
Speaker 1: Wives raw tell all raw. Oh my god, like.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be unedited, like you know, unscripted. Whatever was it?
And no, and it was. It was weird because it
was a forty minute tell all, but it was like
a compilation of all of the tell alls from seasons
one through eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was like.
Speaker 2: Random like little spurts and stuff, and I'm like, this
is stupid. There were only a couple things that kind
of stood out to me when I was zoning out
watching this.
Speaker 3: They did say.
Speaker 2: In one of the clips that they would still choose
and live their plural lifestyle even if they lost their faith,
even if they stopped believing and stopped going to the
aub church. Like they said that, and it was all
of the adults saying that, and of course Tameron Hall
was pushing back on it, like why, like isn't that
the whole point of your lifestyle is like it's a
religious thing, and they're like, no, we love it, we
love our family, and our love will trump anything else.
I just thought that aged like milk, because obviously everybody
lost their faith in Seasons eighteen nineteen twenty, and they
don't live this lifestyle at all, and they don't even
act like a big plural family, like everybody's super separate.
Speaker 1: Well, Mary lives the faith, Mary believes, and I think
Janelle got her spiritual release because she wanted to be
in compliance with her faith. So there's a couple of
people still out there trying to live, trying to make
it to co lobes.
Speaker 2: But they're not like acting like a plural family absolutely,
And so if that's a tenet of your faith, then
why don't you try to hang out together. But like
everybody's just on separate areas of the countries.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking. Yeah, everybody's drinking in the family drinking.
Speaker 2: And they just don't give a shit. And then the
other thing that I thought was interesting was that they
brought up My Sister Wives closet and at one point
they made a comment saying that because I think tammeron
Hall was like, do you believe this business will be successful? Like,
you know, you guys didn't get the investor money, Like,
what's going on with that? And I think Cody said,
in the first year, my Sister wives closet made enough
to support one to two households in the family. So
I'm like, huh, interesting, which means.
Speaker 1: So Robbin's house exactly and maybe a little bit extra
fake Mary or Janelle exactly. So they did bring that
up define support grocery build.
Speaker 2: Cody made it seem like it was enough to pay
all of their bills for that first year press x
to doubt exactly. I'm like, I don't think it made
that much at all. But that was it. I mean,
the rest of the tell all was like just pointless bullshit.
I think this is like one of the last ones
that we have with tammeron Hall or maybe we have
a couple more after this, but it it starts to
ramp up to the point where the Browns are like,
you're fired.
Speaker 1: Right made it lady, You're not allowed.
Speaker 2: Because she was pretty harsh in these tell I was
like she was pressing them like a journalist.
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