Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back, but also not back who
knows to the new Welcome back to Dexter, but welcome
to the first episode of Dexter Resurrection. I'm your Miamigo Trasnell,
and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I'm your Wrinkley Kirkland, Pat.
Speaker 3: Sa, I'm the Dark Passenger Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, Lea's Joan. We are here once again. Funny enough
for me and Tavid Summons off here too. Dexter doses
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So Taylor, just in case people are jumping off the
first time, just a quick overall of your thoughts of
Dexter and new Blood. We'll leave original synat it because
that has nothing really do with that, but just Dexter
new Blood And what did you think of these first
two episodes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dexter, it was something I jumped on too. When
season five or six was airing on TV. I remember
being curious about it. And this is when it was
streaming on Netflix back in the day.
Speaker 3: So I watched the first season.
Speaker 2: I watched it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like I was.
Speaker 4: I was out of high school, so I was just
gaming and I was still at my parents' place. So
like eighteen nineteen years old, like you know, you had
a job, wasn't a full time job. I just had
free like limited not paying rent, tons of fucking money
and just did fuck, it was great.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: So okay, Dexter season one, but that's where I started
with that first season, and I was hooked.
Speaker 3: It was that and Game of Thrones. With the Game
of Thrones, I remember.
Speaker 4: I bought the first season and I got hooked and
ended up buying the second season like the next day
because I just binged through it, and with Dexter, it
was just a non stop ride, just going, going, going.
I loved it and got as far as I could,
which I think Netflix only had at the season five
or six. Season seven was airing on TV, but it
was not I didn't have access to that cable channel
or whatever at the time, so I had to wait
for it to come out on DVD, which I own
it on DVD, and I bought that because the reason
I bought it was mainly I after I binged through
the whole season, when I go to my dad's on
the weekends, I'd played there and I got him hooked,
and so we watched the whole Jesus Christ, the whole
season of it again and then we watched up our
season seven together. And yeah, after that, I because it
was season eight right that the like Devora gets killed
and he goes into the Hurricanes.
Speaker 3: Isn't that right?
Speaker 2: Asking me the wrong questions? I didn't think going through
it right. Well, I'm on season five. It's been a
it's been a slow go on the rewatch, but I
think I got to season eighth and then never finished it.
But for some reason, I feel like there's nine let
me uh or it sounds like they're type into.
Speaker 4: Uh season nine would be new Blood and yeah, it's
extra okay, eight seasons. Yeah, so the season eight's when
he does his little his little jaunts.
Speaker 3: So that's uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Season seven is the only season that I actually own
and purchased. But after you know, getting through that that
was great and I thought, Okay, that's it. Like we
we finished it, and we talked about it for many
moons to come. This is just his fate ultimately, and
I think we we you know, had conversations about how
they could bring him back or different things like that,
but just early geek first stuff. I I just I
love that show. There was much in it that I
really did not expect to get attached to and engaged with.
Speaker 3: And just the humor and like the.
Speaker 4: Just the different storylines and the characters. I'm a big
Masuka fan. He's fucking hilarious. But when they came back
with New Blood, I'm glad that we were able to
cover that and review it. Though those were some fun
conversations and just with Kurt and everything, it was just
it just it was cool to be back in that
world as well, even though it to get a little
messy at times. But after that with you said not
to mention Original Sin, but I'll just sugarcoat it. Original
Sin caught me off guard because I was not expecting
it to be as you'd.
Speaker 1: Be giving us an elevator picture, but Taylor's, uh.
Speaker 2: The elevator it's not working.
Speaker 4: Original Sin was fantastic. I loved it a lot more
than I thought I was going to. But again, I'm
not coming off the cusp of having doing the These
two guys here in the chat.
Speaker 3: They're gonna earn the in the room. They're gonna have very.
Speaker 4: Different opinions, and I will because I've not done the rewatch,
so I've I'm very much different and not up to
up to par with my my canon and my history.
But so virginal Sin Original Sinate. It rubbed me the
right way, and then get into this I was eating
it all up, and I, for the life of me
could not figure out what canon events you were freaking
out about, Like that was breaking Cannon.
Speaker 1: So I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, I never
can you find breaking Yeah, and reckconning because everyone takes
us like, oh, they went back in time and changes,
No recconic can just be like Ray and Last Jedi.
They go, hey, you're nobody, and then the next directors like,
I don't really like that, and then Kyle's like, guess what,
you're a Palpatine that that's what they did in like
the first twenty mins this it was like three things
that happened in New Blood. They're like, actually, though, like
you know this happened, and you know, going about your
way like they they clearly ended the show and they're like, fuck,
what do we do? Like just say this and that
fixes it. So that's what I mean by reckoning. It's
not like they went back and revealed Dopes as Dexter's
brothers and not like that. It's just like directly they
had to kind of put the genie back in the
bottle somehow. But that's all.
Speaker 4: I was expecting something massive or whatever whatever, but just that,
like I thought, Okay, it works, it's fine.
Speaker 3: We're carrying on.
Speaker 4: And so far everything that they've they've pushed forward with.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 4: There are moments, you know, when it's not spoiler, Dexter's
doing like his Dexter thing, and he's smiling to himself
as he's examining something. It's like, just the context of
this is is hilarious and fucked up. But no, like
watching with Madison, we both were really enjoying it. And
there's stuff in the trailer, one particular narrative that concerns me,
and it'll be interesting to see when we actually get there,
because I don't know how I'm gonna uh, what's the word. Yeah,
it'll be interesting to interpret that. But uma Thurman, seeing
her so far mysterious and very very interested in that dynamic,
and then seeing again the other things that they're setting up,
like other threats and everything, I'm just I'm really really
getting on board with it, and I'm I'm excited to
see how much more of a hook they can kind
of reel me in with. But everything so far with
Harrison and with Dexter, I'm I'm eating it up and
I'm really enjoying it. And I like that it's not
completely changing, being something completely different. Like you mentioned the
guys that are helming this, they were notorious for their
reputation on the later seasons, which is what's.
Speaker 2: That you said.
Speaker 3: It was the people that came back from the season
like six.
Speaker 1: And the guy who wrote episode two was the show
runner of six to eight. I did not say he
was helming this show, that he was leading the charge.
They just went, hey, let's go get Scott Buck back.
Who I'm sorry. I try not to be this mina crass,
fucking sucks. He did six to eight for Dexter, he
did Iron Fist, he did in Humans like this guy
does not have a good track records. When I saw
hit like written by Scott Buck went oh, no, like
I that's but again, I just said, oh, he's writing that.
Speaker 2: I not.
Speaker 1: Taylor's miscoded me twice already, so people don't listen to this.
Speaker 4: Wait, you said this was me when I got to
credits and episode two, show winner for Dexter six to
eight is back for Resurrection writing episodes. So I took
that as Okay, he's writing all these episodes. We didn't specify,
but you said episodes. You didn't specify just episode.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's gonna be more than just this episode,
So maybe I could be wrong, but like I, I
think there'll be more than one.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think the chances are high. Great take it away,
looks mad.
Speaker 2: Great intro.
Speaker 3: Taylor, start from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your mythos, Dexter. I a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I went down to make sure my kids are asleep,
tuck them in, came back. Taylor was like, and then
there was there was new Blood, and I was like,
whoa he went for a.
Speaker 2: Season two I had to talk about. Yeah, he fished,
came with Thrones in there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Dexter fan back of the day. Watched it, never rewatched it,
watched all the previous show. Oh. Actually, I guess I
should preface by saying I never ended up finishing it.
I got to season eight and I bowed out and
did not feel the need to end it, and then
came out. Yeah, well I witnessed some of it. You
said six to eight, right, and I I like season seven.
Speaker 1: I digress.
Speaker 2: And the new Blood came out and that was very enjoyable.
A because I think maybe a big part is because
I just didn't rewatch it. So like it was just
moments of Dexter that I remember, and then like just
seeing Michael C. Hall back and like his performance was great,
and then we were just meming with Kurt and just
some other aspects of the show and it was a
really fun time. I think we were doing midnight reviews
with those nine pm.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect Those were nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of fun with that,
And although like in hindsight now, I think I have
a lot more issues with just the story and man,
when they give us like the recap, because I didn't
rewatch New Blood in anticipation for this, When they give
us the recap, I'm like, oh, right, Like this is
some of the stuff Dexter was doing. When he's like
snapping that cops neck and the police and the I'm
like Jesus Christ, like what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like oh. And then as
Taylor mentioned, I also enjoyed Original Sin. So there you go.
That's my that's my full Dexter Methea.
Speaker 1: Peter, I think your fund rating was like a six
point five.
Speaker 2: It's going down so much now that I've been rewatching it,
Like even just watching the first couple of seasons of Dexter,
I'm like, oh man, original sin like hairy, like specifically,
I'm just so frustrated with that character and even just
like early stuff that Dexter does, it's it's unfortunate that
we nothing to do with performances in that in that
show whatsoever, except.
Speaker 1: For Who's sorry Harry, I would say Christian.
Speaker 2: Slater, Like I don't think he's a big I.
Speaker 1: Don't think he's a bad actor in that show, but
I don't think he's like a good Harry. It's like
if you were to read the character description where.
Speaker 2: It's like I can was he like a young actor
in like the eighties or something like so popular?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think the vampire is okay.
Speaker 2: I didn't rewatch that yet.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I don't know what his big It was
true Romance, a Tarantina movie with our CAATs, you know,
in the eighties. I'd say late eighties.
Speaker 2: He really popped, okay, because it's just famous, famous name,
you know. I haven't seen a lot of stuff with him,
but Christian Slater, you know, just good, good acting name,
good Hollywood name.
Speaker 1: That's a badass name. Christian Slater, Like that's a fucking
John Wick villain right there.
Speaker 2: It's no what's that guy's name? Texas Battle from Wrong Turn,
It's no Texas Battle the goat name of all time?
Check out Wrong Turn too. And honestly, for this show
Dexter Resurrection, I like like a fluff of it of hype.
I think, like, like, like my only hype is like
possible funny moments to like talk about in the review
and like just kind of getting Michael C. Hall back
because I still think he is good, but just where
we're at with the character on like his timeline, like
oh my god, man, like there's no going back. Well,
actually maybe there is, because it's some stuff that they
just fucking puke on us in the episode one. We'll
get there. But yeah, very low hype for this show.
And I just even remember like seeing that first teaser
trailer where he's like and of New Blood gets shot
bleeding out that's how this character dies. And then the
first teaser he's like bleeding out in a cop and
I'm like, fuck right off or sorry, bleeding bleeding out
in a cop card. I'm like, fuck right off, this
is so ridiculous. And then just how the show starts
of like here's your fucking blank check and you're all
expunged of everything with like, yo, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3: He's he.
Speaker 2: I think I think the show like needs to grip
me with like some fun characters to like really get
me interested and unfortuate. It hasn't quite happened yet. I
am interested, but I definitely was. I feel like semi
checked out on like some of the stuff that was
happening specifically which is around Dexter and like the logistics
of it. But I don't know. It's rough start. But
I really was not hyped for this because we'll get
into because but the promised.
Speaker 1: The reason you feel checked out is because in the
first twenty minutes this episode, they may they they show
that everything massive that happened last season, it doesn't really matter.
We'll just right away it's gone. So why should I
be invested in if Dexter Harrison Die get caught When
just something as simple as what they do, which we'll
get there, just yeah, gets Dexter back on a venture.
It's like there's you, You've ruined the sticks. It's like
what some people say about the MCU right of people
that hate the multiverse stuff. It's like why do I
care if X character dies or you can just bring
them right back. And that's we are in Dexter comic
book territory. Word is he has reached that where it
doesn't matter if he gets shot or whatnot. Like Dexter
could get his head chopped off and I could. He's
still coming back, you know, And maybe that's what they
have to. Like he said, I gotta go that rope.
Maybe they gotta be like how Freddy Krueger even she
just got more funnier and just wilder. Maybe they have to,
and that hurts my heart. But yeah, my quick elevator pitch.
Dexter for a while was my favorite show. Those first
seasons one to four I think are fantastics and the
best television ever made. It's still minor spoils for our
top ten TV shows. It's still up there, luckily because
some things have happened. But there was some really rocky
to really bad stuff that happened the end of this season.
I was very excited for new Blood because I think
they all knew, hey, we didn't hit the nail on
this ending, so let's do it again. And I know
even that again was a controversial ending, but for me,
this is I won't say it was a perfect ending
as a sense of like oh everything, story, the pacing,
the writing. No, it wasn't perfect, but for an ending
of the Dexter character, which was realizing, Hey, I am
a bad person, and you know what, Harrison, I shouldn't
be around you because everyone around I corrupt or they
end up dead. So I'm definitely not gonna be around you. Ever.
I've realized to be a good father, I gotta sacrifice myself. Right,
we'll wait till again to spoilers. So to me, perfect
ending for Dexter when it's like, oh, Rachel Sin the
Trinity stuff, it's like, okay, we're definitely squeezing as much
toothpaste at the tube. It's like that makes sense, let's
go that road. But then when they announced this show,
and that's not even the plot, which we'll get into
at some point with the whole serial killer suicide squad
and that like we are getting to a point where
it is like the later books where Dexter's dark pastner
was an actual demon that possessed him and there was
a cult, Like we're getting into those late things that
we're getting into those really bad action movie sequels when
it's like or even whatever Tam would describe for like
Wrong Turn six, like oh that's what they did, Like
we are in the Wrong Turn slash Wrong Turn six
era of Dexter, where it's like what can we do
with them? Well, let's do this, And it's tough because.
Speaker 2: If it's to be wrong Turn right, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be we should have a flashback of old Hairy having
sex with Dexter's James.
Speaker 2: Action is like swap between actors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so could you imagine if this show started and
when he saw Harriet was Christian Slater Jesus, And imagine
that's what I would love if they're like, that's just
like who are you? Like, I'm your dad, Dexter, Like
I would have been so great. The whole time. He's
like always questioning, like you're not my fucking dad, like
I have photos, like I have photos of when he's younger.
He doesn't act like this, I'm your father, so all right, cool,
like just everything right. But this show does not give
a fuck about people looking old. Triny's dead but he
looks twenty years older, like it's fine, it's aging. But
they did I feel like they didn't even bother the makeup,
they're like whatever that people don't care, and do they
really care? I don't know. So I was not excited
for this show other than like what Kirkland said, I
think we're gonna have a fun next seven weeks breaking
it down. I think we.
Speaker 2: Worst case it's just bland and like, oh, here we go,
let's talk about Dexter. What happened this week?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it's bland and if people don't listen,
then this will be the ending of the Dexter reviews.
But because Dexter reviews usually always do well for us,
because there is a Rabbit fan base, because that's one
thing that's still aways good about the show. Michael Cea
Hall's always great. That's the thing. I love seeing him
be the Dexter character, right, I think that's in his blood.
It's like I've talked about before, we're in Hugh Jackman
when he was in bad Wolverine movies. It's like, yeah,
but it's still Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. So that's where the
show always as long as they got Michael Cea Hall
and even the fucking original Sin like that did great
numbers too, right, People just like the concept and especially
in today's day and age with the whole fucking what
was that guy called the CEO killer and stuff like,
that's still like a somewhat relevant topic of Like yeah,
like it's it's a relevant topic of you know, should
you kill bad people and take just in your right hands?
Like it's it's still today. It's just the fact if
I don't think they're going that route and this, yeah,
I already spoiled my thoughts. They do a lot of
retconning or a lot of hand waving of the big issues,
which that was really annoying. There's a lot of weird
already inconveniences. It feels like things are very easy for
Dexter and the crew. I like having Harry back because
I think James Lamar is a great actor, and I
think I like that the actually of Harry being a
little bit different so far. If he's not even his dad.
He even says to him like, oh, I'm your peer
and we'll get into it. Like I like the switch
on that relationship. It's a father talking to another father.
But yeah, I think it's like what I'm saying is
the stakes are gone and it's just there's no point
to evolve anymore, like at Myers Spoils. But at one
point Harry is like, oh, it's different. You care about
people this time. No, Like Dexter's cared about many people
throughout the show. That that was the evolution of the
old show. Like like that is the thing Like when
Rita dies and Dexter's like, oh fuck, I did love
her and I didn't even realize it. Right, It's like
we've been here already, We've done That's the thing where
it's like we've done all the things we can do
with Dexter the character, and I'll be interesting what they
can do. I think it will just be this where
the recycle storylines because they don't they'll be for people
like Taylor and other people are they're not rewatching the
show or haven't rewatched it in a long time. They
just go. Dexter's never cared about each other, right, he
has them, but it's like, no, he's tons of people
he's carried about. He cared about those kids, he cared
about Harrison, he cared about Rita, he cared about Debra.
He even cared about Batista. You know, like there's a
bunch of stuff that happened so Hannah McKay right, like
fucking like, there's a whole laundry list of Beep Brian
to extend. So but yeah, let's just get into it
because I think we'll talk more in spoils. But so far,
not a great start. Not but I wasn't expecting a
great start, So it's like hitting the expectations. If anything,
I'm it's lower than the expectations with the first episode.
Anything positive, anything acting is all good. You know. I
like stuff with Batista. I don't know, I don't point
yeah to a point. I just hope that Resurrection ends
with Batista put in a fucking bowl in Dexter's head
and to like everything like just yet everything melt them
down powerful, and then it's gonna be like Dexter like
Rebirth and he's a fucking ghost or something. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm so down, like let's get trying crossover with Dexter.
Speaker 1: And this is the only way I can enjoy it
is that I'm trying to tell myself that this is
like a fan funded season, like new Blood was the
end and this is like a fan film. It's like, oh,
they got lots of cool production budget for this fan film.
Because because even the first fifty minute feels very fan
filming of like let's get all these people back. So
that's I'm trying to enjoy it. But the old Dexter
Fano me that loved that quality of one to four
new Blood, it's tough pill swall right now.
Speaker 2: So anything else, I just want to pick up where
you're going. But I want to pick up in right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna jump right in with our boy, mister
Batista here.
Speaker 3: I was super.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe one of them Angel of the Batista variety.
I was very much looking forward to, like the big
head clash in Dexter Newbla between Batista and Dexter, which
got I don't know a little bit unsatisfying on how
that played out. But so as soon as we as
soon as we see Angel here, I got like super hype, like,
holy fuck, we're actually gonna do the face to face
and again I got an asterix here. I do not
remember what happened at the end of the show of
the original Dexter because I didn't actually see it, so
I assumed Angel knew everything about the big Harber Buscher
and it being Dexter like, just because I didn't see
the show. I assumed everyone like his whole secret came out.
It was just like the big point and overturn moment,
but that is clearly not the case here whatsoever. I
do like how he was susing him out, but like
man like. It starts with the lady cop Dexter's I
can't remember her name, the ex girlfriend from New Blood
Angela giving her giving him a car, being like you
know this one's now, or even or like you better
watch out, there's stop with your tomfoolery. Basically just yeah,
signifies that she's not chasing him or any thing like whatsoever.
The cops are not against him at all. And then
it's followed up by Angel from Miami Metro being like, yeah,
we got Dexter resurrected for a figure speech or I
guess legally like as he can use his name now,
and just all of this big like consequence. I think
that should have been on Dexter for building up through
every single season of Dexter, through Dexter New Blood and
then now to Dexter Resurrection. It's just like completely wiped
out in this moment. I don't think it's gonna be
like fully disappeared. But the way that the show just
started in that way. It just made me so upset because,
like you mentioned, Travis, like with the we've already been
here before with like certain like threats or situations that
Dexter has to come over, or like what you said
with him feeling for people and like like having remorse
and like there is like somewhat of a human in there.
We've done that through the whole show of Dexter, and
I just feel like it just keeps ca I'm pounding
to like the big moment of pointing overturn. He's on
the run now permanently, and then it's just like the
first moment in the show, it's like, oh no, he
can just go to New York and use his own
name now and absolutely no consequence there. So I was
so frustrated with just the very start of the of
the episode one, and I wasn't really able to recover
from that point. I don't think at any point in
the first two episode maybe like a little spike of
interest here and there, but like I was just so
upset with the setup and just thinking of, like, man,
this is like an anthology adventure now, like it's just
Dexter as if it's the Double seven Universe. He just
goes to this adventure and then the next movie is
just something that's like unrelated, because that's kind of how
it feels. But they're also making the attempt to throw
Angel Batista in there. I don't know. I don't know.
I was jammering on there, but yeah, disappointed with angel
initial visitation here, and like the scene between the two
of them, Like, I think it was mostly just roast
into glasses because I was excited to see Angel and
Michael C. Hall like together again, But I don't know,
I just wanted more.
Speaker 4: Did you want him to kind of like apprehend Dexter
more like push him?
Speaker 2: It just fucking beat him up? I think so, Like
I think I wanted to be more than just like,
oh hey, buddy, like let's just chat and here's your
carte blanche for just just being Dexter again.
Speaker 1: And well, I don't think it was that, though I'll
push back on that. I think it's I think Batista
knows that Dexter at this point is a squirrelly motherfucker,
and anytime people get close enough and start to accuse him,
they do start to disappear. Doaks the Guerda fishkup because
even then he's like, oh, it's so weird, like your
girlfriend would just shoot you, and then the next day
be like, oh my bad and Dex's like, I got
bad luck. So I think that I think Batista was
just doing the feeling out process. I wonder what it
would have been like the next day when he was
going back.
Speaker 4: I don't he was heated, he had guns ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think he in that scene is as
fake as Dexter usually is. I think he's just pretending
to be the good old Batista, getting him you know,
the cabana food, like all this stuff. I don't think
there was an actual genuine moment of friendship there. Even
the hug. I feel like it's Batista being like, eh,
I don't know, Like I think that's his way of
reeling him in. So I didn't have a problem that
I liked the scene. I liked asking stuff because I
was like, he's like, the last time I saw you
was stealing Deb's body. I was like, right, that would
be an awkward conversation just even like you. And then
that's why I feel like Batista is undercover in a sense,
because he's like, yeah, I just have a tough time.
Why wouldn't you press him? More like, but why'd you
take your sister's dead boy and drying a fucking hurricane? Dude?
Like that's fucked up, Like that's I think he's like.
Speaker 3: He's like Foster body over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun were And then Batista's like, yeah it
was a dark time, right, and It's like yeah, it
was so like I think he was placating his is
not his ego but just his alibi a little bit.
But yes, the because the whole episode he's recovered, right,
And I thought because in most situations when a criminal
is heard or in the hospital, you see them with
the hand cuts there, so it's not okay, sorry, this
is what I'm thinking though, right, because new Blood, he
anga has found out that he's killed at least Matt
kirk Caldwell like the Sun, right, and then he thinks
this is a big Harbert butcher and she hasn't locked
up something. Okay, it's a criminal, he must have the
things on and then the whole episode he doesn't, and
I'm like, what's going on here? So when Dexter does
say like, oh, how am I a free man to Teddy,
I'm like, yeah, I do want this answer? I agree
with Kirklam. That's their event of referring to Taylor where
just to for Dexter to reveal, oh, yeah, you know
those girls you're looking for, they're here, And for her
to be like you were even, I could kind of
buy that for everything when I can't buy and I
know this was a big hand with me in New Blood.
He fucking killed that innocent cop and that was one
of Angel's friends to say, we're just even. What does
that change? But hey, thanks you showed me like because
the point of being even, he did not tell her
that information as a good person, he told that information
so he had a diversion to get the fuck out
of there. And that's where for her I'd be like, hey,
thanks for telling me that. I appreciate it. Maybe I'll
make sure you don't get the fucking chair, but you're
still going to prison because one they made Angrel a
smart character, she should know that was a trap. And
two you fucking kill Logan, this guy who was like
a surrogate dad to you or to Arison, Well, Dexter
was running with deers and shit like that, Like that's
the guy who Harrison should have ended up with was
fucking coach, like he had a good head on his shoulders,
But no, Dexter snapped his neck because he was just
dating his job. Even for Angel to make a police
report saying that Logan falsely fired at Dexter, so we
had to defend himself, are you fucking cus? Was that falsified?
Speaker 4: Because that's where I got kind of confused, because like
she she falsified the other things. Yes, but when she
wrote that, I was thinking back, like, man, no one
would have like, how would anyone have seen what really
would have happened there?
Speaker 3: It was just the two of the note.
Speaker 1: Chance to put something though, right because.
Speaker 4: It shows, but it shows that the cop went in there,
and the cop he fired his gun off, and then
it just showed that he died.
Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, well so what is the scenario here?
Speaker 1: But she could just say Dexter killed him because I
have all this proof of the other things he did.
There's no reason why she has to. We're even leave
Iron Lake. That's just it was such a cop out.
It was such a oh, we can do anything in
the show. Leave it as a cliffhanger and we'll just
get right out of it. At least I would have
somehow enjoyed or preferred them getting the actress back and
maybe give her a great scene that she's torn and
she can sell it. But just to note it just
feels so easy, and that's a whole season. That's a
whole season. Her figure like to me, someone figuring out
and having proof, because that was the thing with a
Gordon and Doe, because they always had proof, but it
was very superficial, nothing to lock them. When she got
the whole needle bites and everything he had done and
everything linked to bay her butcher, it's like the moment
Dexter's finally caught, that should be the nail in the coffin,
but it's not. Because Exter what told her where some
bodies were buried. Why as her as a cop, would
she feel like they're even and let and he's a
serial killer. She's gonna now let him go and just
go off and kill more more. Logan.
Speaker 4: A lot of those girls too, weren't they weren't they
like reservation girls?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They were. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that probably hits home and one of them too,
I think was wasn't it one of our friends growing
up or something like that that was.
Speaker 1: Her best friend that they were looking for. But still
like he killed he killed the innocent man. It's it's
not like if he was just Dexter, the dark Pasture
takes it the bad guys. If the finale, if he
doesn't kill Logan, I'm not fun with it, but I
can kind of walk with it. But the fact that
he killed that innocent cop is I.
Speaker 2: Mean a lot to me. I feel like that is
like because it happens in the finale, this is the
moment when Dexter dies. So it's like he goes off
so far off the deep end. He's fighter flying back
in the corner. He yeah, it's survival between him and
an innocent man, and he kills the innocent man. So
it's like, okay, this is like his villain turn. And
then he dies and it's like okay, that's like the
end of the story there, like he went to extreme measures,
but he didn't he killed Logan. And then in my
mind now it's like, oh, he's actually a bad guy,
Like he murdered an innocent man. It will forever just
be cemented, like he can't undo that.
Speaker 1: So and I was waiting for a moment of anything
with Harry with someone for him to express some regret,
and maybe that's why he was doing the code again
of like I gotta do I gotta.
Speaker 2: Make it right, make up for yeah, sins or I killed.
Speaker 1: An innocent man. I got almost double that, triple that.
But he is like so when Harry at the end
is like, oh you care about people now, No, he doesn't.
He has no remorse for this innocent man that he killed,
like zero, Like it just it doesn't make any sense
with this. And how does Angela not know he's gonna
kill more innocent people? How does she not know the
next time he's caught he's just not gonna because he will, right,
We've seen that he'll just break the net and slit
the throat of somebody. And it's like so every time
Andrew's watching the news and sees the path of Dexter's
and be like, oh, that family that now lost their dad,
that was my fault because we're even like it's it
hurt the Angela character, It hurt everybody with Dexter. Dexter's like, oh, well,
I'm pretty cool. And then them not even mentioning the
cop thing with him him killing and he said, man,
that's even so my only hope is because this is
what's gonna be. The next thing to drop is how
does Harrison react, because in the finale that was a
big thing. They didn't show them the recap. But what
happens is they're gonna run away together. I'm not sure
if you, but Dexter escapes to me at this point,
they're gonna run away together, and he's like, hey, whose
blood is that? And he's like, oh, like, I had
to get out of there, and Harrison puts together that
he killed the cop. And the second he does, that's
when Harrison pulls the gun of like that was a
good man and you just killed them like you Like,
So if they just make Harrison find that his dad's alive,
which I think they're starting to do because they had
that vision of saving his dad and Dexter's like, oh
could you, Like they're already making him regret it. And
and then that to me was another retcon where the
finale to me set up, he dabbled in it, but
Harrison found out he's not a murderer, he's not his dad.
There is a path forward to him this episode. Now
let's make him just fucking destroy guy's head with a
toilet bowl, and it's just like, I know that he
killed a guy out of passion, but still it's like
that was the finale of that show.
Speaker 4: That ever the case, though, because even when they were saying, hey,
we're gonna give Harrison his own show, it's like, Okay,
well he's gonna continue.
Speaker 3: They never said the killer but didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 1: That was all rumored. They never did. They never said
he was gonna get his own show. They've never publicly
said that. The only publicly things was the prequel on
the Trinity Show. They've never put that out. That was
just that they're looking at other stuff. But that's why
I think that season's a little odd because I think
they were thinking bad that, but they're like, ah, let's
just end it. So that's why again it makes no sense.
New Blood ends with Harrison ree in the snowe from
his dad driving off. He come to the conclusion he's
not a fucking murderer and I'm gonna try and do better,
And you know, cut to ten weeks later just bashing
a guy's head and I get it, he's a rapist.
I completely all fun with that. But it's just it
just it doesn't work to me. And my last point
because I don't want to forget it. What I saw
a non spoiler, same thing. The whole resolution was Texter
also realizing, oh he sees all these people that he's killed,
and heard and Deborah the ghosts the whole time something
like you are bad for him, and that was the
point of kill me, so I don't ruin your life.
And now what's he doing. He's fucking five feet away
from It's like, oh, I'm just gonna have to help him. Yeah,
I have to help him.
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: And you have ghosts Harry, who's like, you know, every
son needs his fall out. That's not true. That's not
true if your son's a fucking or your dad's a monster.
So it's like the Dexter being arrested, Dexter realizing he's
a bad person, Dexter realizing Harrison doesn't need him, and
the show telling us Harrison's not a killer. That's four
big things in New Blood they did, and they've taken
that all back to be like, well, we really want
Dexter to have some fun in New York.
Speaker 4: And I would say a big difference with Harrison though,
just spiritually being there is. He's very like you already highlighted,
he's very different from before, But I ain't the big
thing with Harrison and even all the ghosts that appeared before,
like they're all encouraging him, and I think it's him.
I think it's him in control of them more than
like them, just like Harrison offering him the advice of
like the code and before. I feel like he's kind
of like he has like Harrison present and Harrison is
like just saying these things, but I feel like it's
more so. And then again, I'm head canning this. It's
however you want to interpret it. But I just feel
like at the sense that Dexter is kind of instigating
what he wants in reaffirming himself with what Harrison is
telling him or Harry is telling him.
Speaker 1: I guess absolutely because like and I'm fine always Harry,
all of them that are his conscience. There's a world
to me where Docs was like you know what you know?
What I know about you? I didn't know back then.
There's some good and you no like the Kirk you
just watched season two where does is when he's in
that cage and he's nice to Dexter that moment, remember
that moment when he tells them about like, man, I
figure out that Harry killed himself because of me. I'm
a monster and don't stands up. He's like this, good Morgan,
Let's go to the station right now, you and me,
let's turn yourself in. Like the second dope smells that
Dexter's on the ropes, He's like, yeah, let's arrest you.
You know, like that's the second where Doakes is like
he would not be that way. So the ghosts, yeah,
they all are of his imagination. It's just that that's
what sucks. Where last season it felt like he came
to the realization of who he actually was, but now
he's back to it's like we said, it's back to
the original show where he's in denial, where he has
these crazy person and his figments of his madination lying
to him, being like, you're doing the right thing. You're
a good you're a good guy, you could be a
good dad, like all the stuff, which is we we've
been told now for nine seasons that's not true, but
now we're doing this again. But yeah, I did love Doakes,
just like, yeah, I know there's some good in there,
it's like, no, they're what we having? Doakes?
Speaker 2: Do you know here?
Speaker 4: And they had him do all the classic stuff like
he had no reason to go with the I point.
Speaker 1: Like that this line, this felt like Defoe saying like
you know, I'm something of a scientists, like in no
way home, like yeah, it's tough. It was great to
see everybody back. I liked Liftgal seeing the best because
it actually felt like like he was there just not
doing that, yeah, doing the hits, you know, even Miguel
I love, I love Jimmy Smiths at one AM. That
gave me a surge of like it's still there. Yeah
we once were. And Dixter's all like fired up and
and but I love yeah, like you said try, He's
like yeah, but look all the good you're doing, like
you'd be taking these people out. And that was Miguel.
But that that's where I think the lift Goal one
had some actual substance because it was going on and on,
because that made sense when he said, like the problem
was you wanted to be the killer and have everything.
You can't do that, And that's where I would been,
like you said Kirk on the anthology, if Harrison wasn't
here if it was just Dexter somehow alive, he doesn't
know what to do, and he does just making his
life mission. I'm just gonna kill bad people till I
get caught or dead for real this time, like I'm
just gonna go to the wheels off. But it's still
just like, well, my son needs me and I need
to like like find a way to bond or have
a connection there, like I just I don't know. So
it was great seeing everybody, Don't get me wrong, it
was very fun. I just wish those scenes were a
bit longer, especially the Doakes one that really felt like
he just came in to play the hits, like everyone
was there, Like I wish all those scenes were at
least five minutes, you know, but especially like I imagine,
these people aren't like just cheap higher so you have
them there for the day, like right, some meatia stuff
for them to dialogue with Michael C. Hall. But they
were fun, nonetheless, as a man that loves Christmas Carol,
that's what they were doing. They even make that joke
of like there's usually only three ghosts in these stories.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said there.
Speaker 2: I was underwhelmed by pretty much all of the appearances,
I think like the initial just oh shit, it's John
Lithgow there, or oh it's Jimmy Smitz, like like just
seeing them that was the most hype part. Jimmy, Yeah,
I'm probably with you. I think Lithgow and then Jimmy
Smith's were my favorite. But yeah, like maybe more substance
or just longer seen or something to really make me
because I don't know, it's just these are these are
like big iconic characters in the Dexter series, and uh,
to just like rapid fire them all in one short succession,
I just felt a little bit wanting more, I guess.
Speaker 1: But yeah, tay your thoughts on the ghosts before. I
was surprised they led with him so quickly, Like when
we heard that welcome back, I thought this would be
sprinkled throughout the season or whatnot just episode one to
get them all.
Speaker 2: And angels in there too, like without dream sequence. Right,
Like it's just like all these quick appearances, and like,
is there someone else that's missing, like amongst like the
cameos like the original show. I know there's a lot
of characters that could pull from, but like specifically ones
to his story, like who's Uh is it Hannah McKay.
Is that the one that took Harrison?
Speaker 1: She she died, which again the same thing I thought
when they show the bathtub. They refused to bring Julie
Ben's back for this, I would love Rita.
Speaker 2: To be I couldn't tell if that was her, and
I'm like, damn, not even showing her face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's still kicking, he's having fun. He's with Quinn,
Detective Quinn Batista attachment.
Speaker 3: That was a good show. Yeah, no, I think uh,
I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think Trinity Killer was definitely the most flowing of
all of them that appeared. I mean, I guess mcguerto maguerto. Sorry,
it was definitely not his kill. It was debraas that
makes sense.
Speaker 3: But I liked.
Speaker 1: I liked.
Speaker 4: You know, Doakes was a little bit two on the nose,
but just when the curtain he rips it open, surprised
by the fire. That made me laugh. So I got
a kick out of that. And then who else was
there that he had? Again I'm drawing a blank. Who
are the other two? The other ghosts that popped up?
Because it wasn't just Doakes in Trinity there was two.
Speaker 1: Well you got Harry was back, and then Miguel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Miguel right, and Harry was the one. I thought
it was different because I thought Harry was just he
you know.
Speaker 1: Because at first that Doakes was the fourth ghost. It
was to start with Harry, and then it was Trinity,
and then it was Miguel, and then it was Doaks
was the last one, which she got a montage later
on too. So that's where it's like, again, I hope
to be right, but like I hope for the redemption.
My hope is that because Doaks was the first one
to figure it out, because Batis brought that like, oh yeah,
what did Doaks always felt off about you when you
call you a creep motherfucker and just that like fifteen
second montage of all these things he called them. I
would love it if they do it that way, where
through Doaks finding out that led to LaGuerta and Batista
being like the last one. I said, I hope that kids.
I hope Batista fucking kills this man. So maybe that's
my only hope of like, are we had lots of
Doak stuff, because that's gonna be the tipic And again
Tom about Dexter was a bad person. Let's redeem Doaks.
There's when did that show happen? Two thousand and six,
So two thousand and seven, so we're almost twenty years
a decade. His two decades, his family has had to
live with the fact that he got branded the Bay
Harbor butcher. He was, I want to say, an innocent man,
but he was not a serial killer. And his family,
his lives have again, think about that, their family, their
lives have probably been ruined. That's your son, that's your brother,
he has all those sisters, your brother, Oh, that's your
your brother fucking cut up. All those people their lives
ruined because Dexter, you know invernently, No, he doesn't eve
matter about life, like he was gonna frame Doaks no
matter what, he was gonna frame Doaks. So that's why
I would love if Doaks was the full circle point
of Oh yeah, I should have fucked with Doaks because
Batista was his friend and that Lettuce here. But I
don't know. It could just be, hey, we just want
a montage of James L. King like saying a bunch
of funny shit about Dexter.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, I was happy to see him back,
especially I feel like we were just talking how he's
not really acting anymore? Is that true? Or Oh no,
I think we looked it up and there was actually
a couple of random things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took only a long break. I think it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Treasure come back.
Speaker 2: Third's gonna be.
Speaker 4: The rumors.
Speaker 1: They're making it right.
Speaker 2: So these are the exact same like outfit. So it's
like very similar up hearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we thinking? What are we thinking about Harrison?
So far? We talk about a little bit. But ten
weeks later, he's working as like a bellboy at a
very high end hotel in New York. He does a
bunch of things there. He's friendly with this girl who
he's just watching some kid randomly, which it's like, Man,
I don't think you're in the headspace to be watching
this kid, But I digress. You've murdered two people within
the last ten weeks. You're doing cocaine again, Maybe stay
away from the impressionable child. But again, whatever Harrison's gonna do,
that's his debism's coming in there, right. So he's working here.
There's some lady that he's kind of nice with. U's
there for some sort of conference, like they just chat.
She seems nice. We get that we met this guy
earlier who's like, Oh, this guy's my favorite employee here.
He's looking after my watch like he's a recurring customer
here the hotel. But it looks like, oh, he slips
on air drink, he's gonna do something pretty bad. They
make it as subtle as a fucking elementary school explaining
what sexual abuses video, as far as like what you
do and don't like just just like what's going on, man,
don't worry. We're just gonna have fun. Like this guy.
Speaker 2: It was so like on the nose.
Speaker 1: This guy made it well, just don't worry, I'm gonna
rape her, like the way he's speaking like, and I'm
sure I feel like that. But this is like a
high end hotel. He's he's married. He's married, so he's like,
he can't be extra sneaky. So you would think this
guy has to play it subtly like.
Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't because the girl guy was like,
oh I didn't think you were married, because he was lying.
He said this is my wife, so he was he's
not married. He was just taking advantage saying it was
his wife who was who was the same with his wife,
like the guy was he carried the great blonde girl
and he said to Harris like, oh, no, it's my wife.
And Harris's like, I didn't think you were married. That's
what he's like, don't worry about it, don't wory about
But it wasn't his wife.
Speaker 3: So he's not married.
Speaker 1: I miss so because that that lady he was with
at the beginning, though, was that his Why that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I thought he was married.
Speaker 3: No, I think that was just another woman that he
was just hooking up with.
Speaker 1: No, I think he's married. I think that was his wife.
Speaker 4: But why wouldn't they bring in the wife for any
anything else like questioning or anything like that? Why was
he didn't She didn't have anything in the hotel room either.
It was all just his stuff only right.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll relent on that. Still did not like
the way he was behaving of just the entire hotel.
Would know this guy's up to something bad. And then yeah, literally,
like Harrison breaks down the door. He's just like taking
his clothes off, he's getting ready. Harrison Joe Goldberg spears
him into the wall. Like Harrison, who's not a big guy,
picks this guy up.
Speaker 2: Who's you know, the relight. He's like, fucking stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did double leg him. Yeah, I guess so
he was stay champed. So yeah, okay, I'll relent on
that one. He gets him down, kills him with the
twitt thing, and I'm far of the cleanup. That's all
makes sense. He's I like that he's referring back to
like what his dad taught him and stuff and.
Speaker 2: Back the fucking mustache here when you like just bleeding
out and he's like, okay, you would be like there's
gonna be many women, more, many more girls out there.
They're all the same, like, oh my god, why would
you do that fucking grabs the toilet bowl or the
toilet cover.
Speaker 1: They just have to make it so obvious, like, hey,
this is a sexual Fenders like we get.
Speaker 3: Him again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we understand this is a bad person.
We full even to the point where it actually wrong.
It is like maybe stirn his own cold going after rapists,
like like we understand this guy was a fucking asshole,
Like he fits the coach. Yeah uh. And then yeah,
Harrison uses the kitchen cleans, all of which I think
would probably be risky, but you know whatever, he has
his dad's powers, gets away with it for the most part,
but the cops are investigating. I'm so not looking forward
to seeing these cops. These cops were so boring, and
I just said, like, don't do this stories, Like don't
just like wait and get Batista there and have him
do the comp stuff like I just already when they're
investigating and they do the whole like Boondog Saints thing,
when they're like, oh, she rolls her own way. She
puts on some headphones and she's just like digging through
the like it's so like, so what she listens to
some music while she digs through garbage? Like what makes
her difference? Like no, man, she's one of the best,
Like she works all she does it differently. It's different
than Boondog Saints when the Foe puts on the music
and he's like so dead. He's dancing and he's like vibing,
he's feeling the area like it's this whole thing. But
she's just kind of like, I mean, I listen to
some beats while I dig through shit, Like I actually
think the guy who's playing Harrison is a better actor
than he was in New Blood. So and I still
like the Harrison character. I just so far this story
and now he's doing lines of coke, Like, I'm gonna
have to see this play out. I don't think it's bad,
don't get me wrong. I just have to see how
this all plays out, because this could be a lot
of stuff when we look back at the end the season,
be like we didn't need this, we didn't need that.
And I do have one other funny thing to point out,
but I'll pass the baton on to someone else. About
Harrison Harrison.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I like him more than New Blood.
Like you shout it out there, I feel like I
feel like his storyline specifically is the most enticing because
it just feels like the most natural of like he
was born in blood, just like his serial killer father.
He's got the tendency. He's like clearly like that that
was shown in New Blood, and then the big finale
is like that's not the path that he wants to
go down at all. But then here just the darker,
just the dark passengers creeping up on him. Uh and
and he's he's going all out on that and just
like the self destructive nature, I do like seeing just
the layers to the character. So like my issue, Like
I feel like my main issue is is like around
specifically Dexter, and just like because it's such an important
character on like the effect that he's had on so
many different people and then just fucking wipes wipe this
light clean the start of the show and just everything
else that's been going on, like his motivate, his psyche.
Now it has been frustrating, but for Harrison, I have
been enjoying it. And yeah, I don't know, I'm curious
what's gonna be happening with that female friend of his,
with the with the the son. I imagine something well, uh,
I don't think just gonna die. Maybe, Yeah, Like I
figure some something is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm like that if I had to put
five bucks on it, I bet that kid is in danger,
you know?
Speaker 4: So yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you Are you a fan of Promising Young Woman Travis?
Speaker 1: Yes, this is one of my favorite movies is Last Decade?
Speaker 3: The guy the guy that uh that Harrison kills. He's
in that movie.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently the rape guy.
Speaker 1: No, he's not one of the two because one of
them is a new girl guy. Like I can't remember
which guy or is.
Speaker 2: It new girl He oh, yes, yeah, you're right, yeah Schmidt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the other guy's from like raised an anime
prie practice. It's not one of the main ones, but
he's probably at.
Speaker 2: That party type cast.
Speaker 1: Man, he's are you are you telling me that proms
woman and Dexter in the same universe. It's it's shame
on that movie, and it would be great to get
those characters together. But uh yeah, it's what a tight cast.
Speaker 3: To be, Like just just this agent's really.
Speaker 2: Another one for you?
Speaker 1: Hey, friend, I just not question. Yeah, man, what's up?
Why is it like brutal Rapist number five? I've played
a couple of those. Oh you know, man, they just
really love it. You didn't, yeah, which, like is there
the money's there?
Speaker 2: Man? Trust me?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, this is gonna lead you to other stuff.
You're in Dexter now, you know, and just like you yeah, oh,
I got the script of the first X Men like rapists, Like,
what are you keep doing this? It's not just a
one off? He killed him and then throw episode two.
He's just like like he keeps popping up as like
a ghost and stuff.
Speaker 2: So oh man keeps bringing his family to his movie premiers.
Speaker 1: Or that's my son. He's playing a ready fist again.
I swear to the next one this won't be happening.
So oh, let's take an ad break and then we'll
read right back. All right, and we're back. I want
to mention one thing too. I thought it was just
again Dexter and Harrison terrible dad. So Harry, he's like,
you gotta go to him, you gotta talk to him.
He needs his dad and Harriet Dexter's like, yeah, I'm
gonna stay far back and to make sure he makes
no mistakes, you know, parent from afar h And he's like,
if I you know, not only does he not know
him alive, he was the one that killed me. Excuse me,
he's the one that killed me. So if I come
back right now, that's just gonna really fuck him up.
So it's like, okay, I you know, I don't know.
Dexter's logic is down, and it's it's like, fine, I
can see in Dexter's mind why that might be logical. Sure,
so now I know it's accidentally, but inevertally, he's fucking
his son up even more because there's a moment before
Harrison gets in a car and he looks down the
street and he sees Dexter on the road and then
he looks and he looks back and Dexter's gone. So
now he's fucking up Harrison in a different way. That
hes he's just seeing ghostor he's guilty, but it's actually
his dad there. But he's just like, oh, I can't
get him out of my mind. He's already had that
fucking dream and now he's seeing Dexter on the street,
Like I just love, like, well, I'm not gonna mess
him up. But then by doing that, he's like messing
up in a whole different way. Yeah, Like it's like
I wonder if we're gonna a couple more times where
Harrison sees him but doesn't see him. So I just
got a good giggle out of that that he was
trying so hard. But yeah, they they introduced a Dark Passenger.
A first, I thought they were doing it for comedy,
but then there the end episode, sometimes it felt like
Dexter was actually mad about this Dark Pastors thing, which
was weird. It's so weird because like that fuck like
they wouldn't like they didn't call you the Dark Passenger, Miami.
You were the Bay Harbor butcher, like no one knows
this but you and your fucking mind like it was.
It was such a weird moment U for also show
in the ghost section, remember we got to see young
Brian and they love bringing young Brian back. Really, I'm
I'm wondering if they did reach out the actor didn't
work out, because I would have loved to get like
the real adult Brian back as a ghost as well.
That would have been fun. But I digress. So Dexter
he's going after this dark passenger guy. They set up
that it's a guy that gets in an uber. They
don't call it an uber, but like their show version
of an uber. And he very ramdom but like he
cuts off the heads of the drivers and asking all
these questions butnot he has some fucking hoodie where it's
like you can't whoa wait a second, that's another sid
Why do you want one of.
Speaker 4: Those kirkling det out patients in Cologna.
Speaker 2: If sidebar, if you're in that situation, guy you're driving,
guy throws the wire around your throat like and he's like,
hey pull over here, like like take a left, like
you drive in like fucking forty clumbers. I feel like
I'm flooring it and like slamming on the brakes because
he's that.
Speaker 1: Guy that got out right, he slammed the brakes, then
pull the seatback.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, So like this guy, I don't know it's
survival and stincts were just stressing me out.
Speaker 4: You know, he's probably taking a seatbelt off so he
can reach ahead and do the loop around your neck.
The downside is all modern day cars, they're all electrical
seat reclined, so it's slow as fuck. You need one
of those, like at least nineties, maybe early two thousands,
and it's the lever you crank and you just fucking
exorcist your back backwards and just like get it.
Speaker 2: That's what he put it out, mud it out, so
it's like a fucking hydraulic just smash it back.
Speaker 1: A dark passenger survival vehicle right here.
Speaker 2: Five d thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I could to afford that, sir. But yeah, so they
set out that he's killing. There's like a bunch of victims.
He keeps his trophy, already keeps the ID and he
puts like a blood X on them and whatnot. We'll
get to how we see it later. But anyway, so Dexter, uh,
he just finds us out right because he gets in
the back of this uber and he's talking this driver
who's now a side character and he's like yeah, they're
call him the Dark Passenger and they're like, well the
what's like the Dark Passenger and this driver how they
set him up is he pulls aside and he's like
you you Dexter Morgan and he's like, yeah, oh you sure,
like ID like ask him for He's like yeah, here
it is like okay, you can get him. And then
he apologized. He's like, you know, I'm really sorry. There's
like a killer going around killing uber drivers. I just
had to make sure you were the right person, right,
And he's just stressing that, you know, all his friends
have been being killed and he's really worried and whatnot.
He just met this guy. Cut to twenty minutes later.
I'm having a party at my place tomorrow. You should
come stop by actually win And I thought at this point, like, oh,
clearly they have some like footage or something to show
that it's not this like Dexter, right, Like, no one
that looked like the profile Dexter. When they go to
the party, they meet the survivor. He's like, well, he
had your build and your height, and he was white
and he had a hoodie and actually liked the joke
where Dexter's like, I don't got a hoodie, Like I
like that. He didn't say it was not a killer,
but like, there is nothing to disprove that this man
you just met is not the dark Passenger killer. So
it was just a weird dichotomy of being frightened for
your life by picking this guy up to inviting a
complete stranger to your home. Also, if people aren't watching
along a home that has his wife and his daughter
in it, and now he's known Dexter for a toll
two days, guess what. Guess who's renting the downstairs basement,
This fucking random guy he just picked up. This was
so that's where when when it said episode two where
by Scott Buck, I was like, oh, yeah, this has
fucking last few seasons of Dexter Wren all over. Ever,
things just super convenient, super easy, and nothing makes sense.
But I did get lots of laughs. It's just like, yeah,
I gotta party more. And of course Dexter just goes
to you know, find more details I'm sure he's gonna
fuck up this guy's life too. They're gonna fucking kill
this guy's daughter and wife, and Dex was gonna like, oh,
I'm really sorry. I didn't think it was gonna go
this way, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got curious and I was looking up like
his just to circle back to him him dying, faking
his death, and then him getting reinstated as Dexter Morgan.
I was thinking in my head like, man, you wouldn't
you have to like backpay taxes or something like that.
And so I was looking into it though, and I
don't have a definitive answer, but I typed it up
and I was like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Really worried Tayor wants a hoodie. He's looking into faking
his death, Madison. Look out.
Speaker 4: The hoodie is just genius because it's just the fact that,
like why, you know, people take photos all the time.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, I was taking photos of you.
Speaker 1: Here's the situation. It'd be like you wan't care and
they were having me photo. Are you walking around Canada
with your fucking eli? Oh yeah, oh yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: You part a look at their family photos. It's like
why is that guy's face.
Speaker 1: Just's birthday where it's just like nasen Stina Taylor Madison's
married a fucking mysterio over there, Like that's a little
shady that you've ever said, Oh, I need to get
this hood Like, no, you don't, Taylor.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, probably super expensive, but so I typed it
in and uh.
Speaker 4: Someone commented on a Reddit length that the caption of
the title was is faking your death illegal or is
it what happens afterward like faking your identity? And shout
out to this guy this guy's name, his name is
pussy Magnet, And he actually commented on then well he
he he posted it in this like legal advice reddit,
but that was what he wrote, and then in his
comment underneath it, he said, I was watching Dexter new
Blood when he said that faking your death was technically
not illegal, and I just want to fact check it.
I just thought it was funny that he prompt Dexter
led him to the same question that I prompted the
same question with.
Speaker 3: So it always comes back to that.
Speaker 4: So it's not illegal, No, it's illegal. Disappearing leaving your
friends and family thinking your dead is not illegal. Lying
to businesses that you owe money to insurance and then
like different policies that you have in place and police
and whatnot that is illegal.
Speaker 1: So none of that stuff because I'm like, he just
left his job whatever. But like you said, what about
the taxes.
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, that I don't have an answer yet, And.
Speaker 1: I guess that's probably how he has all his money,
right just to like he can go he's been in
a coma for ten weeks, but he can just start
paying rent, no job. He's buying food from vendors like
Dexter should be eating out of fucking garbages right now.
But I guess, but that's probably why he had to
pay no taxes, as Jim lindsay, right, he's just banking
all the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as a.
Speaker 4: Serial killer, you're gonna have accounts set up different things, right,
probably a different few uh personas as well.
Speaker 1: So oh absolutely he has Dude, he's a big saver.
He's not spending it on anything.
Speaker 3: It's a good idea. I should do that. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: You gonna have it hole in the wall they punches, yeah,
jesus oh man. Yeah, any thoughts on uh, you know,
dark pasture fun enough villain that's gonna take out probably
next week.
Speaker 2: And that works, well, that's my car.
Speaker 4: Sorry I think she was that.
Speaker 2: But he's like about to kill an Uber driver and
then Dexter's like, don't take my car.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, and then Dexter decides to phone him
down the railway and whatnot.
Speaker 4: But we were joking about that, like what was he
gonna say don't take my train or something next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, what was this plane? If that guy
sees and he's like, why the fuck is this like
Uber client following me the whole time? Like his cover
would have been blown. And again that Harry tried to
be like it's because you care. It's like I guess, man,
sure whatever, like try and enforce whatever fake fake character
evolution you have here for Dexter. But yeah, they are
setting up. They set up that he's weak because he
was in the coma, because they have some line where
he's like, yeah, I was in the best shape my
life because I was chasing deer all the time.
Speaker 3: He would run deer in the forest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said it like that, like what the fuck
is this show? So I'm like, I know it's completely true,
but just like it was just a weird line like, yeah,
I was in the best shape because but like he's
been the coma and he's been shot, so he gets
bumped and that hurt him and everything. But yeah, Dark Pastor.
I was kind of surprised he I thought someone would
see the table in the first two episodes here, I
thought's where again the two drop? But no, they they
withheld and I think next week though, he's do you
guys think the Dark Pastor makes it pass? Next week?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm curious how it's gonna go because I
think he's gonna kill a dark passenger and then all
these other like interested parties are gonna notice that and
be like, Okay, Dexter, you take his place or Dexter's
he does the recon right, So I think Dexter's gonna
go to his place and find the evidence, find his
trophies because usually he finds the trophies of the Cerirracull
and that's when he's gonna find the invitation everything like, oh,
this is interesting, and maybe he'll just take that and
this he'll kill the guy. Either way, the guy gonna die.
Speaker 1: And this is why I just want to see, like
why does dexter go to this thing because my pitch
before when I was trying to make it work when
we top of the trailers, I was like, Oh, he
probably has no money, and that would make sense of
why does he join this weird serial killer gang because
it's kind of like and same thing what I said
about his identity. I'm like, Oh, this is probably gonna
be a billionaire that can give him money, give him
his life back, and that that right, I said, That's
what was gonna protect him from being arrested. Was this
guy's gonna like bankroll him to do whatever. But like,
I'll make sure you don't want to prison, but you
got to kill this guy. You gotta be my weapon.
But no, Angela took away the prison thing. Batista gave
him his life back and he's now paying rent on
his own.
Speaker 4: But then what was the guy that Uma Thurman was
approached and what not? Because that guy seemed like he
had everything put together right, like yeah, house.
Speaker 1: And he was a killer though, like he did say that,
and he said it sounded like he old him like
one hundred K. So I really don't know what like
serial killer pyramid scheme they got going on here honestly,
we'll find out and with them just fucking murders that
guy with a baseball down in the middle of the
street right out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus Christy right now.
Speaker 1: So that's telling you what's gonna happen this show. There
are the lines of like, no one's everyone's fine, you know,
so anything else were missing?
Speaker 2: I'm just excited for more Uma Thurman. I feel like
she must have been in marketing, I imagine I did.
I was shocked. I was shocked when I saw her,
so I, oh, really, did you not know until that?
I do not know until right now. Maybe I knew
and then forgot about it, so that that was a
nice surprise and just really intrigued by Yeah, just like
it's like I'm again like a Double O seven movie.
It's like this female spy type character that's just coming
in here and kicking ass and just haven't seen Uma
Thurman and uh and much lately. So it was, uh, yeah, well,
I'm excited to get some more of her.
Speaker 1: Do you know peer Dnklish is in this season?
Speaker 3: I did know that.
Speaker 1: Do you know Neil Patrick Harris is in the season.
Speaker 2: I saw his image when I googled the show, just
recently and David, none of them, did you say, David
Mush Mush isn't this also? Yeah, all, I see, I'm
all surprised they weren't in the first episodes, like, none
of those characters other than Uma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get. That's why I think next week will
be the kill and then we'll meet these people. And
then I'm also curious how much Harrison and him are
gonna really interact him in dexter. I had a thought like,
imagine the whole season if he actually never goes to
doctor Harrison. He just watching from that car the whole time.
Speaker 2: I thought they might too, man the fucking what's his
name dark passenger guy, but it might be too soon
for that.
Speaker 4: I would love to see if we got the detectives
kind of pieced together, like Okay, this mo o of
this guy getting killed with the nine body parts and
whatnot is very similar like the Bayhrvor butcher back in
the day, and just I would love it if the
cops like, holy shit like this. The bee Haver Butcher
is like, she's like the best detective in the best
garbage bag deducer.
Speaker 1: Some headphones on. She'll find out, she'll find Deb's body
in the fucking lake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought all the evidence right here.
Speaker 1: Oh and Dexter did kill that innocid man. It wasn't
it wasn't a miss fire.
Speaker 4: You know that well, that that scene when he was
in the suite at the hotel and he was looking
and he caught that the shower curtain the liner was
changed but the curtain was still the same, and he's smiling.
It's like, oh, he used the liner to wrap up
the body.
Speaker 3: Oh smart boy. Yeah I was.
Speaker 4: I was eating all that up because he's smiling like proud,
proud son and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, some good ship.
Speaker 1: Let me pull my notes to make sure I didn't
miss anything, you know, not anything else. I think I
mentioned it would have liked if they got the actress
for Angela back for seeing it would help. But no,
I think that's everything on this episode. For me. I'm
I don't know, it's not even nine because the meme.
I'm not interested. I'm not ONREATA. I'm curious where we go,
and I'm curious to see what they do with all
these people, these characters, and what happens with Harrison and
Dexter and also right Christian Ritters in this season as
well too, like there's a lot of good people. So yeah,
we'll see. Like I said, hopefully it's some fun. I
did have some fun here. Sometimes it's maybe too good
to you know, or so bad. It's good fun, but
you guys got anything else? Or in that episode off,
how did uh?
Speaker 2: How did deb die? In the original show, You're gonna
finish it one day, it.
Speaker 1: Might be a year from now, he's asking because he's
he's not finishing it. He gets she gets killed by
the brain surgeon.
Speaker 2: Oh god, like the villain of that season or something.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, it's like there's a there.
Speaker 2: I don't even ask.
Speaker 1: It's really anti climactic too, like she just gets shot
and like that's it.
Speaker 2: You know some times that she's in peril in that
whole show. For her to just die like that is.
Speaker 1: They're they're a therapist that they reveal that Harry went to,
and it's revealed that Harry and her worked on the
code together for Dexter. But then there was another person
like Dexter that was like a Brian situation where he's
like a failed experiment and he starts going cutting people's brains.
It's like whatever part's missing, Like they.
Speaker 4: Told him like that, you just do whatever you want,
there's no no holdbacks. It's like the bad version of no.
Speaker 1: I think he just didn't listen to the rules or
could understand the concept of the code. But he would
like cut people's brains out. That like the part where
you're like you miss you're missing something like like psychos
and stuff when they scan your brain. So he would
go and like cut people like brains out. And he
was after this therapist and that was the same thing
that he's the therapist's son as well too. So it's messy,
it sucks and uh yeah and uh yeah, Well I
won't spoil how he meets his end. You'll have to
get there in a year. He needs his end. It's
maybe even worse than everything I just told you.
Speaker 2: So thanks for sharing. Yeah, so excited to get there
and watch that for the first time. M hm.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have anything else. I'm just really excited,
really excited. You see, there's like there's.
Speaker 4: Multi Dexter is not multi generational characters. We've got like
Dexter's parents and then we got Dexter, and then we
got Dexter's kid here and the kid his kid is
now helping raise another kid like babysits.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Haryson's going to be teaching that boy the code
after his mom dies nine pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, after his mom dies, he has to take kids.
And then Dexter's gonna be his fucking grandfather. Oh god,
damn it. Oh man, Well, we'll see what happens next grandson.
Speaker 3: I can see that scene. Harrison isn't my grandson.
Speaker 1: Like us, He's gonna be He's like killing bull He's like, ah,
making his own code.
Speaker 3: I see, he's like drawings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting like ten year old bullies. Oh yeah,
and he's gonna make him call him, call me Papa
dex now grandpa, like he'll they'll give him some stupid
name for Dexter that he'll go by. But Hi, I
don't know. We'll see, we'll see what happens. That's one
thing that this show could go anywhere as it's unpredicted,
unpredictable right now, So we'll be back every week to
break it down. I hope you enjoyed this. Oh don't.
There's one more quick thing?
Speaker 3: Were quick thing?
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a chance that Dexter tries to
get on the crew with the police is like they're
forensics because they made a point the doctor made the
officer made up. What is saying like forensics, isn't here
forensics something or whatnot? Something with forensics? Would that be
too far fetched if he's like he does because he
ditches the driving the car thing after right, because he
gets his killed.
Speaker 3: But then maybe he makes that jump and he gets
on there.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Fish season ends and he's just like
working for New York Metro Home and we're literally there's
some former military guy like you creep Fuckingmogan. If they
just like remake the show but in New York, you're
gonna hear a bad finale review from me.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I think like the New York City and
at least like I don't know, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: They'll reveal that Dexter and Brian had a fucking sister.
They'll bring her in all that stuff. But no, I
actually think he's gonna keep the driving job. I think
he's I think it's gonna be like Moonnight Jake Lockley,
where one of his personalities was a cab driver. Because
he keep his eyes and ears on the ground. I
think he's gonna kill him but be like, oh, this
is a good gig and he's still gonna need some money.
So I'm not one hundred percent that prediction, but I
think there's a chance he could keep the driving gig.
So yeah, good friend, Yeah sure. Hopefully fucking Batista shoots
the tires out there and he falls off the Brooklyn Bridge.
But we'll see what happens. Go Angel on POLLM. I
swear if they fucking kill Angel, I know, I know
he's gonna die, and it's gonna be like a situation
where like the villain kills him and Dexter has to
get revenge. So it's like he kind of has like
a moment with Batista, like I didn't mean for this
to happen, but my.
Speaker 3: Surgeon's son gets them.
Speaker 4: I mean, who's son, brain surgeon's son gets him or something.
Speaker 2: Like this is gonna be Angel at the end of
the show.
Speaker 3: That's got the evidence.
Speaker 2: He's gonna Dexter like dead rights. And then he just dies.
Speaker 1: Because ghost Harry comes alive and actually starts choking Batista
like my son alone, but he turns into Christian Slater
and was like, what the fun is going on on
this show? And then somehow that. Yeah, that's the big twist.
When dex was working at New York, they like, Harry
is alive and he also becomes a cop again, so
they're like working together, father and son ghosts. Yeah, we'll
see what happens. We'll be back every week talking about
Dexter resurrection, I promise you, and we'll
Speaker 2: Be boring man,