1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's Hits, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,839 your source of information and analysis to help you win 3 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:16,199 your fantasy hockey league. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Block off hot a step hit on, stay lock Blocks. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nunhoe Fantasy Hockey. 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: Live once again. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,399 Speaker 4: Jesse Severe Victor Nuno in the place to be. How 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,359 you doing today, Victor? 9 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome. Jesse. Yeah, it's good to be here 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,119 again with you. And how you doing, my friend? I'm 11 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,000 doing great, doing great? 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: What is this month? January? I can't keep track anymore, Victor. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Good times are rolling on and hockey is rolling we 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,200 Actually I may have overshot it a little bit, Victor. 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,399 We're close to the Fantasy hockey playoffs and a couple 16 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:53,880 of our leagues, which seems crazier to me now than 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,240 it did before. But this stupid Olympic break is really 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 cramping my style. Prepare everybody to hear me say that 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,359 about two twenty more times over the next month. But 20 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:03,840 how are you doing, man. 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,359 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I am super excited for the Olympics. 22 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:09,519 I think it's going to be a lot of fun, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 but I also agree that it's making a mass out 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,640 of the Fantasy Hockey playoffs, so. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,599 Speaker 3: It's good in the bad. It's good in the bad. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,439 Speaker 2: We are doing a Fantasy Hockey Life Olympic Pool, just 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,359 like we did the World Junior Pool, so that's not 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,599 something you even need to be a patron or anything for. 29 00:01:24,719 --> 00:01:27,719 So if you're interested in getting in on that, we'll 30 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:29,359 get a bunch of groups together and there'll be a 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,760 lot of fun. So that's another reason to come join the. 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: Fun, Victor. There's maybe one other thing you want to 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,920 mention here, is there not? 34 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: That's right. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,519 Speaker 2: Last week we mentioned the Dauber Midseason Guide giveaway. We're 36 00:01:41,519 --> 00:01:43,560 doing that again. Daber Hockey has hooked us up with 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,599 copy copies of the mid Season Guide and we're giving 38 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:47,760 them away to our lawyer listeners. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,959 Speaker 3: Is it. Thank you for the support. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: All you have to do leave us a five star 41 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:54,079 review on the podcast aggregator of your choice, take a screenshot, 42 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:57,519 send it to me Victor email at Fantasyhockeylife dot com 43 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,159 at gmail dot com, or you can email. You can 44 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:03,359 demand me on ex, Twitter or discord. That's it, simple 45 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:06,040 and quick. We'll keep doing this until we run out, 46 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,599 and it's by far the best fantasy resource out there, 47 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 So hughes thanks to Dabber and definitely. 48 00:02:12,039 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: Want to get in on that. Good luck to have 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,039 one who enters. 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,719 Speaker 4: All right, Victor, let's get to it. It's time to 51 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:28,639 talk a little bit more World Juniors. Right after that, Victor, 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,439 we're talking the World Juniors today for one more time. 53 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,719 My goodness. Yeah, didn't work out that great for the Americans, 54 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,039 but I still enjoyed the World Did you enjoy the 55 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:40,719 World Junior's, Victor when you were watching there? 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I always enjoy it. 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: There's always fun storylines, There's always heroes that score on 58 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:51,479 overtime or unfortunately sometimes make a bad play or whatever. 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,439 Speaker 3: But it's just it's where you remember. 60 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: Like these memories people and can I certainly remember Jordan 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,080 Emberley and he's the guided them forever, regardless about how 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,840 good is a NHL career is, So those kinds of 63 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:04,240 things just stick with you forever. 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: So I love it. 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: And the storylines were totally there, even though some teams 66 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,319 were better than others. It's just an awesome time. And 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,879 maybe it's also because for me, I'm usually off a 68 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,120 little bit, I've worked a little bit lighter during that time, 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,360 so you actually get to watch a lot of the games, 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,319 whereas I feel like for the UA teens or the 71 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,439 Gretzky Alnka, I just don't have time during those tournaments 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,199 usually to watch it. So the U twenty is just 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,560 it's perfect timing. I just said, and just enjoy I. 74 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:31,039 Speaker 4: Love day sports. I love that the World Juniors is 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,879 on during the day. Man. Yeah, so let's get into 76 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:36,599 some of the players victory because I know you got 77 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:38,360 some takes to get off. We did a little bit 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,039 of that last week. We're gonna do a little bit 79 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:44,479 more right now. We're gonna start with Max Plant the American. 80 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:47,560 He's been lighted up for Minnesota Duluth this year again, 81 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:51,240 with thirty two points in twenty one games seventeen goals 82 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,879 so far this year. He was named an alt captain 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,439 for the tournament with the USA, but he took an 84 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,319 upper body injury and missed the final two games. The 85 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,000 two loss. Is that a coincidence? Who can say? Stevie 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,719 Eiserman's second round pick in twenty twenty four, so he 87 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:10,039 was a Red Wings draftee. His draft time rep was 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,840 for passing, but he's averaging nearly a point per game 89 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:17,240 in college only one goal in three games at the tourney, though, 90 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,079 So we're going to compare Max Plant today to Merrik 91 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Vaniker of the Chicago Blackhawks, and in the Mason Black 92 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,879 NHL Ranking, Pole Plant comes out. I had seventy thirty 93 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:33,839 in a big voting turnout. Victor is playing stock on 94 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,360 the rise, er on the fall. 95 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:39,199 Speaker 2: I don't think his World Junior performance helped him all 96 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,480 that much. The way you framed it, it does certainly seem 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,480 like he helped, and I think his presence would have 98 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:47,360 been helpful had he been there. But the reality is 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,160 that he really didn't do that much in the three 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,040 games he was there. He was a minus three. I 101 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:53,000 know we don't worry too much about that, but one 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,519 assist in three games when you're literally the leading scorer 103 00:04:56,519 --> 00:04:59,639 in the NCAA. And quite frankly, I said it beforehand, 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,759 the Americans are going to go they as Max Pliant goes, 105 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 and they needed him to be an All Star in 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,639 this event to have a chance, and he wasn't and 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,079 they didn't. But I think there's a direct correlation there. 108 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:13,360 I certainly think that they had enough. They could have 109 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:16,519 still made it to the Semis had they all played 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,920 a little bit better, but really they didn't deserve to 111 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:21,680 win that game against Finland. They didn't really play that 112 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:23,279 well and a lot of it was on him. He 113 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,680 could have done a lot better. So I think his 114 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:26,639 stock is down a little bit. But a lot of 115 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,519 times these one small sample sized tournaments, and maybe he 116 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:32,360 was dealing with something even before he was out, so 117 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:35,839 who knows. The reality is he is having a fantastic tournament, 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,319 sorry season in the NCAA. And actually this can work 119 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:42,079 both ways, right, Like sometimes you can have a strong 120 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:45,600 tournament stock up and people really want to have you 121 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,360 and trade for you and all that kind of stuff. 122 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: So I think that's something to think about. 123 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: And then the other way too, like you can have 124 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:53,839 not so great tournament and maybe people perceive your stock 125 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,199 is down and maybe you could get him as a 126 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,079 bit of a bargain. And I think that might be 127 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:01,279 reasonable because he is he is someone who could be 128 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:05,120 who should still be better than what we saw in 129 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,240 this tournament. So I think that it just creates a 130 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,199 little bit of an opportunity. 131 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: Jesse. 132 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,319 Speaker 2: All that to be said, I think that I would 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,519 still take plant here. I would go with the people 134 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,959 seventy thirty. I think is pretty clear. Of Vaniker is 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,439 someone who he's a Chicago prospect taken late in the 136 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,360 first round, and I think that he has showed pretty well. 137 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:25,879 He plays for Branford, who's at absolute wagon. He's playing 138 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:27,399 a little bit more of a depth role because they 139 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:31,160 have so many talented players on that team. He's getting 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,199 a little bit buried, but he's still strong. And I 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 think that between the two though, you clearly want Plant 142 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,680 despite the stockdown. So if you had Vanikar and or 143 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,360 someone you might want to send it to the Plant 144 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,759 owner because you might be able to get a bit 145 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,720 of a bargain. Looking at the Hockey prospecting between the two, 146 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:48,360 it's fifty nine percent star potential for Plant and just 147 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:51,199 five percent for Vankar. He's trending down and Plants trending up, 148 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,480 so that one seems pretty clear. And if you look 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,000 at the Fantasy Hockey Life data and the puck sid's 150 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,759 score rating, Plant is a little bit higher than Vanker, 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,480 both of them seem to be doing pretty well. Although 152 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:05,560 the ncaamors for Plant are a bit better, with his 153 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,399 transition and play driving all a little bit stronger than Vannikers. 154 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:13,040 The bash is a little bit stronger for Vaneker overall, 155 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:15,519 he should be more of a bash master, but Plants 156 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,160 bash is still pretty good at eightieth percentile, where but 157 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,639 Pannikers is at ninety one. So I definitely would take Plant. 158 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,959 But I think that Vanniker's value is a little bit 159 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,040 depressed because he's on this really strong team and not 160 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:29,480 able to show as much as he can show. 161 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:35,519 Speaker 4: Jesse next, Yeah, Victor, I notice you're not going to 162 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 plant your flag on that guy, so we'll let that 163 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:41,360 one go. James Hagen's next up. He is in his 164 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:44,879 second year of point per game performance at Boston College. 165 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:47,600 In the World Juniors. He put up two goals and 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,680 five assists in five games. That was a similar pace 167 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,000 to what he had on last year's winning team. Actually, 168 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:57,120 subjective reviews I read of his performance were generally positive, 169 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:00,600 and Haggin's is one of the top prospects, certainly outside 170 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,160 the National Hockey League at this point. As we do 171 00:08:04,279 --> 00:08:07,720 the Mason Black NHL Ranking poll, James Hagen's up against 172 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,759 Porter Martone, the player drafted one spot ahead of him 173 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 for the Philadelphia Flyers last year, who's doing very well 174 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:20,800 for himself in Michigan State this year, and Porter Marton 175 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:23,240 wins this poll just to see came out ahead in 176 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:26,399 the NHL draft fifty three to forty seven percent on 177 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,240 another big turnout here, Hagen's a touch behind Marton. How 178 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,120 is your opinions? How is your opinion involving evolving on 179 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Hagen's and what you got here? 180 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Hagen's tournament was pretty underwhelming. I think 181 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:46,440 we were expecting as a returner. He played with Pirot 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,720 and Leonard last year and it was exciting and we 183 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:52,559 thought he could do great things and he's super talented. 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,480 He went high in the draft, and I think it 185 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:58,159 was just rather disappointing that he didn't do as much 186 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,039 as we hoped he could. So that was a big story. 187 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,039 And I think it's reasonable to show a little bit 188 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,639 of stock down here for Higgins. 189 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: We would have liked to see a whole lot. 190 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: More from him than the two points in five games, 191 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,080 So that's all extremely reasonable. On the other hand, I 192 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,320 don't think Porter showed everything that he needed to show 193 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,320 or wanted to show in this tournament. I think he 194 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,799 was good, he wasn't incredible. He was the captain and 195 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:27,519 he was supposed to be on the best line, and 196 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:30,919 he showed up in a few spots in that semi final, 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,879 he did score it a tie against chech Ya, and 198 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,039 so there was some moments, but overall it was just 199 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:39,679 a little unimpressive. Someone that is really doing fantastically in 200 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,600 the NCAA as well, and we thought that he could 201 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,720 come in here and just absolutely tear. 202 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: It up, and he didn't. 203 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think he did a lot of really 204 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,679 good things, and I wouldn't say that his stock is down, 205 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 but I think we wanted to see more from Martau 206 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,600 that we did, so I think that both of these 207 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,919 guys were maybe just a little bit disappointing, but more 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,240 in the sense that we thought that they would be 209 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,240 absolute stars and they were just kind of good. So 210 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,759 I think that was something to be said. I think 211 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,120 between the two, and you mentioned this on the last episode. 212 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,759 It is often generally the case that you want wingers 213 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:10,679 more than centers and fantasy. In real life you probably 214 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,960 want the center, that would be an easy choice, but 215 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,240 in fantasy it's often easier to get centers, and so 216 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,080 you might want the winger. And in this case, I 217 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,879 think I would take martone. His hockey prospecting is a 218 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:24,159 little bit higher to fifty five percent chance of being 219 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:25,759 a star, whereas Haiggens has dropped down. 220 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: To thirty six. 221 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: And if you just look at the bash between the two, 222 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Hagen's actually surprisingly has quite a bit of bash. People 223 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:34,840 think of Martone as this big power forward, and he 224 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:37,399 is big, but he doesn't necessarily bash that much, so 225 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,120 his bash is only at sixty fifth percentile, whereas Haiggins 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,840 is at ninety three. I think they both have a 227 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,080 tremendous upside to have them both rated as a seven, 228 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,840 but Martone's is eighty five percent chance of hitting that 229 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:51,360 and Hagins is seventy five, and Haiggins's might have gone 230 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,320 down a little bit after this tournament. The rest of 231 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,000 their skater cards look pretty similar, so I think that 232 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,240 it's probably accurate to say fifty three forty seven might 233 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,960 just depend on context. Might also consider the fact that 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Boston doesn't have that many great prospects and Hagen certainly 235 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,200 looks like he could be the top line center of 236 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,120 the future, whereas Marton looks like a top line winger, 237 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:13,200 but they also have some other pretty good wingers in Philly, 238 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:15,519 so maybe he doesn't earn that right away, so that's 239 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,240 something to consider. But I think all in all, I 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,960 would just rather take marton Jesse. 241 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: Very good. Let's move on to a Meal Heming. He's 242 00:11:23,759 --> 00:11:26,080 been a Texas Star and a Barry Colt this year. 243 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,600 Of course, he is on his way to be a 244 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,200 Dallas Star one of these days. Aside from the tournament 245 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,639 that is a Texas Barry and now the World Juniors. 246 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:38,440 The recent first rounder potted three goals in seven games 247 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,399 for the Finns. His production has been higher at Barry, 248 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,639 but you can't argue with Finland's results given their odds. 249 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:47,679 A Meal Heming, I've been watching him close because I will, 250 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:50,600 full disclosure, have him on some fantasy rosters because I 251 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,399 figured anybody who the Stars wanted late in the first round, 252 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,440 I just want it in on. But that hasn't worked 253 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,840 out yet for a Meal. A Meal Heming. In the 254 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:04,360 NHL ranking Mason Black poll is up against Vaclaude Nestrasil 255 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,799 of the Czech team, who also had himself a very 256 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:13,480 nice tournament and a Chicago Blackhawks again number twenty five 257 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:17,360 pick in last year's draft. Nestra Sil comes out way 258 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:21,039 ahead in the poll here, sixty nine to thirty one percent. 259 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:23,919 Yea had a better world junior. So what do you 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,679 think of the performance here? Is Heming still on your radar? 261 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,559 Is nest You're still moving up? What's going on? 262 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 263 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: I think overall, both these guys played to their team 264 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,480 strengths more than they'd been shown as individual stars, and 265 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:41,159 I think that's important. I think you could say both 266 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:43,919 of them were a little disappointing. Their team success was 267 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,080 more important than their individual success. Heming just has an 268 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,720 absolute canon of a shot, and that's a weapon, no 269 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:53,559 matter whether he uses it as a shot or as 270 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,559 a decoy. And you saw him a lot using I 271 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,799 saw more of it this year than I ever had before, 272 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:00,559 of him using his shot as a decoy where he 273 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,679 takes up the one timer and he doesn't actually shoot it, 274 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,759 he fakes it and then tries to create more of 275 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:07,919 a pass or more of an opportunity for someone else. 276 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,159 So that's good to see a little bit more playmaking 277 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,440 from him, But the reality is that there's still a 278 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,120 lot of issues away from the puck from him. He 279 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,279 isn't that engaged when he's not in the offensive zone. 280 00:13:17,399 --> 00:13:19,559 That's still a little concerning because even though his shot 281 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:21,679 is good, he's not like Ov where he can just 282 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,679 stand there and do nothing and rip one timer. So 283 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,320 he's got to do a little bit more. Nestra Sill, 284 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:28,840 I wish I saw a little bit more from him 285 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,679 in this game. I think you can't necessarily knock him 286 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,000 for the whole team being so successful in him playing 287 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:35,879 his role really well, because he did have some really 288 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:38,440 strong moments. It just seemed like some of the draft 289 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,679 eligibles and some of the second rounders. I've shown him 290 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,559 a little bit more, which was interesting. And I'm sorry 291 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,200 to tell you, but I don't think that Emil Hemming 292 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,039 is going to be the next White Johnson in case 293 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,600 that's what you're looking for. But I do think that 294 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 I would take Nestra Still here pretty easily. I think 295 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:55,279 he's a more complete player. He's also both these guys 296 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:58,480 actually bashed pretty well and decent shots, blocks and hits 297 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,360 for both of them at seventy seventy eight percentile of bash, 298 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,480 but Nestrasil up at ninety one per bash. He's gonna 299 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:09,840 just be hidden and destroying everything. I don't think either 300 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:11,919 of these guys have super high points upside, so the 301 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Perferle floor I think is even more important for Nestra 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Sill and the Hockey prospecting is just slightly higher six 303 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,480 percent versus four percent for himing, and a lot of 304 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,720 that is based on really low production in his draft 305 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,080 minus one season for n Estra sil like non existent 306 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:27,960 and then not a great, not a super high season 307 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:30,720 last year and then blowing the doors off the NCAA 308 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,639 this season. So definitely, like in Estra Sill, I think 309 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,279 he's a more complete player. I think he's going to 310 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,960 fit into that Chicago lineup really well. I think that's 311 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,919 exactly the kind of guy that they need, someone that 312 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,759 will run around in bash. He's like a younger, more 313 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:44,879 skilled version of Nick Folino who's on the way out, 314 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:46,799 but he's got a rough and tumble guy who will 315 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,840 protect some of the stars, and I think Estra still 316 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,399 will be the next in line to do that. 317 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: All right, then let's move to our next player, and 318 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,639 that is going to be Cole Aserman. 319 00:14:57,759 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Ooh. 320 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: Eiserman did not get subjector reviews that I read, and 321 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,440 there was a I think a little reference at the 322 00:15:04,559 --> 00:15:06,960 end that maybe Cole Eiserman was not a topic we 323 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:09,360 talked about last week because we were trying to stay positive. 324 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,279 His production was two goals and an assist in five 325 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,720 games in two years college. In college, my guy has 326 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:19,279 thirty three goals and fifteen assists as he prepares his 327 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,840 application for the Josh Anderson School of scoring all goals, 328 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,840 no assists. Still a dynamic goal scorer who would be 329 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:28,519 very nice for the Islanders to get if he is 330 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,080 able to do that at the higher level. The NHL 331 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,279 ranking pole is going to put him up against teammate 332 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,320 Victor Eckland, who also played in the tournament for the 333 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,600 winning Swedish squad, and the people have spoken fifty nine 334 00:15:42,679 --> 00:15:45,919 to forty one percent in favor of Victor Eckland. I'm 335 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,679 not at all surprised by this. I wonder if the 336 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:50,600 question is I'll let you talk about which player is better. 337 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:53,279 But I'm starting to wonder is Cole Eiserman ever going 338 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,279 to be a thing because it seems things are not 339 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,320 going that well. What do you think, Victor, So. 340 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,679 Speaker 2: You can take what I said about hemming and you 341 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,440 can add amplify it by one hundred With Cole Eiserman, 342 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:05,320 He's just invisible away from the puck. He just doesn't 343 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,919 do anything. At one point I tweeted out when he 344 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 had that really nice goal in the semi final, like 345 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,080 all he does is score big goals, which is good 346 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,320 but also bad because that's all he does. He literally 347 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:19,559 doesn't do anything until you need him on the power play. 348 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:22,080 And he's the kind of guy who you know, maybe 349 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,799 like Victor Olifson, who plays like nine minutes a night, 350 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:27,120 but eight of it's on the power play or something 351 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:29,039 like that, and you just park him in that spot. 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,960 You don't trust him with any even strength minutes and 353 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:34,080 you just use him for his shot that does not 354 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,679 bode well for tons of fantasy success. And you hear 355 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,159 that he's trying, you hear that he's improving, but in 356 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 this tournament, best on best, he was not there. He 357 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,200 was not where he should be, a lot of those 358 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,879 other things had not improved, and maybe the fact that 359 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,519 his good buddy got knocked out and stretchered off really 360 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,879 affected him. I could imagine how scary that would be 361 00:16:54,919 --> 00:16:57,960 for a player, seeing your friend and teammate. But a 362 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,240 lot of the other Americans pulled through and did a 363 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,120 bit better. We talked about Zeller's and Ziemer and some 364 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:06,599 other guys who did pretty well despite that. I'm actually 365 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,359 surprised with this poll, Jesse, because I think it should 366 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,400 be like ninety five to five or something like that. 367 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:14,759 I think it should be much higher. I would take 368 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:16,680 Victor Eckland here easily. Even though it's funny you look 369 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,119 at the hockey prospecting and Iiserman is still a forty 370 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,680 two percent chance of being a star and Victor Eckland 371 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:24,319 is down to ten percent. But I mean, you watch 372 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,440 the tournament and you saw how impactful Eklund was. And 373 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:29,960 he's a basher, he's a gamer. He engages in all 374 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,839 aspects of the game. He's someone you can rely on 375 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,599 when you need a goal, when you're trying to protect 376 00:17:34,599 --> 00:17:36,519 the lead. He's going to earn the coach's trust, and 377 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:39,079 he's going to earn ice time, and he's for sure 378 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,759 going to be an NHL regular. I think Cole Eiserman 379 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,680 I have strong concerns whether he will even be an 380 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:47,440 NHL regular. I think he will certainly get looks, he'll 381 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,640 get opportunities, and will what will he make of it? 382 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,079 I think is the question. And not on the power play, 383 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,079 but at even strength in his own zone away from 384 00:17:57,079 --> 00:17:58,680 the puck. Those are all the things that need to 385 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,839 come Miles, and I just didn't see enough in this tournament. 386 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,440 To make me think he's going to get there. So yeah, 387 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,319 I would strongly prefer Eckland right now. And just a 388 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,200 reminder that Victor Eckland, unlike his brother, is a strong basher. 389 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:15,720 William doesn't do a lot of that Victor does. And 390 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:18,400 I do think that Victor even has even maybe more 391 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:21,279 points upside at least similar, if not a little bit 392 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:24,759 more than William Ecklin. So I think that's all pretty exciting. 393 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,400 We're not talking about a point per game plus player, 394 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,279 but I think we're talking about somewhere in the sixty 395 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:32,559 to seventy point range with maybe upside for a little 396 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:33,160 bit more. 397 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,599 Speaker 4: Tremendous. Let's move on. Adam your Check is next. No, 398 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,720 we did talk about Adam your Check a little bit 399 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:42,799 last week, but there's never a bad time to talk 400 00:18:42,839 --> 00:18:46,960 about Adam. You're a check defenseman. Scoring four goals and 401 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,960 an assist in five games is pretty remarkable for a 402 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,640 successful check team. As we said before, Branford is loaded. 403 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,400 He's a big part of that, and we'll see what 404 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,799 impact he's able to make with the Blues. Some prankster 405 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,160 put Adam your Check up against David Erecheck in the 406 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:09,720 NHL ranking poll and results ensued, as one might expect, 407 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,599 eighty three to seventeen percent for the younger brother, Adam 408 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:19,960 over the older brother David. Victor. I know you still 409 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,599 haven't quite given up the ghost for Adam obviously or 410 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,400 for David. Obviously Adam the better prospect at this point, 411 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,480 but to let people know what you're thinking about him. 412 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,319 Speaker 2: I definitely would take your check in this poll. So 413 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:36,839 I think that settles it. Adam way to take a 414 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,920 stand Victor, Yeah, that prankster would be Mason Black, of course. 415 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,200 To put these together, it's interesting, right, I mean, they're 416 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,559 obviously at very different stages, and David Eercheck has just 417 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:49,720 been so disappointing in his transition to the pros. And 418 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,400 that's why I always find it interesting when people when 419 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,720 a prospect makes it known that he wants to be moved, 420 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,839 and people often will jump to the defense and say, see, 421 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:01,279 just needs to change the situation. 422 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: He's great and he'll be great. 423 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: And the reality is that a lot of these pro 424 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:06,400 scouts and a lot of these coaches, they know what 425 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,759 they're doing right, and they saw some struggles with him, 426 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,960 and they have continued. Eighteen games in the NHL this season, 427 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,839 he's up to seventy seven total and zero points. But 428 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,960 not only that, but he's pretty awful defensively. He's getting turnstiled, 429 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,640 he's getting turned around. His defensive metrics are pretty awful. 430 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,000 His offensive impacts are minimal. But even in Iowa, maybe 431 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,440 he's lost some confidence. But just five points in fifteen 432 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,279 games this season, seven points in twenty seven games last season. 433 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,039 That's in the AHL. It just doesn't seem like it's 434 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:36,240 going to happen for David Earcheck. So I guess if 435 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,920 you're in a competitive team that wants someone just playing now, 436 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,559 maybe you would take David. But I think the reality 437 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,079 is that anyone would want Adam Aircheck. Especially the funnel theory. 438 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Just kick it down the line a little bit. Take 439 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,880 the guy who's younger, who at least hasn't proven yet 440 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,240 that he can't handle the NHL. Maybe Adam can't handle 441 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,799 the NHL either, but at least we haven't seen proof 442 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:56,759 of concept of that yet, so we might as well 443 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:00,160 take the younger Earcheck. I do think Adam has some 444 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240 differences in his game. I think he's a bit feisty. 445 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,799 I think he's a better skater, and I think that 446 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,079 his all around game is a bit better. He may 447 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:10,599 not be as good offensively as his brother, but hey, 448 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,920 if that's going to allow him to stick in the 449 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,240 lineup and actually earn some minutes and respect from the coaches, 450 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,240 then you'll take that. You'll take someone at least playing 451 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,480 in the NHL and he bashes a lot. They both do, 452 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:22,359 although David's lost a bit of his bash because I 453 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,680 think he's trying to improve his skating, but Adam at 454 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:29,000 eighty six percent bash and great transition and play driving numbers. 455 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,319 Although we talked about this on the other show last week, 456 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359 you have to take some of Adam Yirchek's numbers with 457 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,359 Branford with a grain of salt because the whole team 458 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,200 is awesome. But I think watching him with check Yo 459 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,400 was good away from those other stars and just looking 460 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,240 at his individual skill and development, and he's progressed a lot. 461 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,559 Speaker 3: So I think you've got to give it to him. 462 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:47,319 Speaker 2: Got to give it to him in this poll, and 463 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,920 you probably want to reach out and try to acquire 464 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,519 him if you can. 465 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: Very good, Victor, It's time to take a brief break, 466 00:21:56,039 --> 00:22:09,720 come back and talk some more World Juniors prospects. 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Just emails Fantasy Hockey 498 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,839 Life at gmail dot com. We'll get you in that 499 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,240 discord for free. Back to the prospects. Aeron kibbi Haru 500 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,119 of Finland. He captained the overachieving Fins with five assists 501 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,319 in six games. His day job is modest, scoring in 502 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,119 Hifk Liga, but of course a young man is still 503 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,440 a teenager. Not doing that much in liga is not unusual. 504 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:53,759 Speaker 3: Victor. 505 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:59,039 Speaker 4: I want you to know. I wore my HIFK jersey 506 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,720 to the upsode today. 507 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: That's right. 508 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: I have an HIFK jersey, baby, yeah, eighteen ninety seven. 509 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:11,200 Mostly advertisements before in Jerseys look like yeah, yeah, that's right, 510 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,160 that's right. That's why I chose them. But yeah, I 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,839 got to visit their stadium once, but KiB Haru was 512 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,440 not there at the time. As far as I know. 513 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, what's that he wasn't there to welcome you. 514 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,599 Speaker 4: He wasn't very rude of him, frankly, and I think 515 00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:27,960 you should mark him down on that account. But if 516 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,359 you want, if you wonder why it's not so easy 517 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,319 to score in Liga for a teenager, Aaron kiv Hary 518 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,400 is teammates with your Electra, Remember your elect He played 519 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,519 three hundred and seven games for the Blues and Flyers 520 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,839 like the mid twenty tenths. He's thirty eight years old. 521 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,640 He is double the age of Aaron kiv ar You 522 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,960 and they are teammates, so that gives you a sense 523 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,559 these man's league's overseas. Anyway, Let's put kivvy Haru up 524 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:57,079 against Dominic fens Or on this NHL ranking poll. That's 525 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,680 another defenseman who's much older, actually drafted in twenty nineteen 526 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,680 and a Chicago Wolves slash Carolina Hurricanes prospect. He'd got 527 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,119 some good numbers this year, twenty one points in twenty 528 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,000 four games. I believe that thirty two and sixty seven 529 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,000 was last year. So Aaron kivvy harre You comes out 530 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:19,480 significantly a head of fence Or on this comparison. Seems 531 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,000 like defenceror was going to be a thing you might 532 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,839 have already happened, although certainly that kind of production says, 533 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,039 hey give him a try in the NHL at some point. 534 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:30,279 So even Kri Aaron Kivvy harre you seventy five to 535 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:34,200 twenty five over fence or very different developmental tracks. People 536 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,440 seem to like Kivvy. How are you just in this comparison? 537 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,880 What do you think about these young gentlemen? 538 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's pretty simple. Actually, I think I 539 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,599 agree with the people in the poll, but I just 540 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,640 don't think Dominic fens Or is ever going to be 541 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,799 in NHLer. So I think you want the guy who 542 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,000 still has a chance to be in NHLer, which. 543 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Is Aaron Kivy. How are you? 544 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: Which I found out today I was messaging with Byron 545 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,519 Bader because I was looking at his hockey prospecting card 546 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:01,920 and I noticed that he had a Danish flag Denmark flag, 547 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,640 and I was like, isn't he finish? And he pointed 548 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,039 out to me that he was born in Denmark, and 549 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,440 so that's why his flag has the flag of Denmark, 550 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,079 which then we were discussing maybe it should be the 551 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:16,480 country he represents, because that's confusing, and he was. 552 00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: The captain of the Finnish team and you're talking about 553 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,440 Kivy Harry here, right, he's the captain of the team 554 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,279 and he's from another country. Come on, this is a scandal. 555 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he is finish. You could be born in 556 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:30,480 another I was born in Spain. I'm American. I was 557 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,640 born on a US military base. So I don't know 558 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,799 his situation, but it does happen. And he's clearly finished 559 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,880 and he's always represented Finland, but he was born in. 560 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:38,799 Speaker 3: Denmark, which I didn't know. 561 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,559 Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm sorry to take us down that the dietribe, 562 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,759 but it was interesting. I just was like, huh, why 563 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,599 is the flag different? I was expecting the finish flag, right, 564 00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,319 at least I know my flags. I guess that's at 565 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,519 least to some extent. Anyways, Kivy Harre, you we didn't 566 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,920 talk about him too much on the yet, but I'm 567 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,119 really happy for the young man because he needed a 568 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,640 redemption tour after we talked about him as potential number 569 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,519 one overall pick three years ago before he was in 570 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,680 his draft season and then he started not performing as well, 571 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,160 and basically everyone else grew around him and he didn't 572 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,519 grow and he's still five to ten and so anyways, 573 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,319 he ended up going, as a lot of people know, 574 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,319 in the fourth round, not clearly, not first overall, not 575 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,079 even in the top ten or first round, and. 576 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: So he's had to work his way back. 577 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,519 Speaker 2: He's been playing in LIGA for years, in the top 578 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,720 league there, and he's really improved a lot of his 579 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,400 play driving, a lot of his puck battles, a lot 580 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720 of his loose puck recovery, his physicality his bashes is 581 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,119 still not great, but his transition game and play driving 582 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240 have really improved. And you saw him in this tournament. 583 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: He was a force. 584 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: He was an important factor in that team that nearly 585 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:46,960 won a bronze medal and pushed several of the really 586 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000 good teams to their limit. 587 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,599 Speaker 3: So I was really good to see. 588 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,039 Speaker 2: And yes, Spencer had some high pedigree for a while 589 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:56,839 and some promise, and he is still doing well in 590 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960 the AHL, but at this point he's been in the 591 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,279 HL for several years and I just don't know that 592 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,759 he's ever going to get a clear shot. He did 593 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,000 play one game this season in the NHL, but a 594 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,079 lot of his underlying numbers there in the AHL are 595 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,680 not great, and so I'm just not sure that he's 596 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680 ever gonna do it. So I would take kiv Haryu, 597 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,759 who I think has a little bit of stock up 598 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:19,160 and we just haven't seen him in the AHL yet 599 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,960 and we haven't seen him struggle at that point. So 600 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,359 let's go with kivy hary You, the Danish born Finn. 601 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,519 Speaker 4: There you go, There you go. Let's move on to 602 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,160 a guy who I drafted in the first round of 603 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,039 the World Junior's Tournament. We did victory that did not 604 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,359 go well for me because this fel At Cole Hudson, 605 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200 great player. Things did not go well at the tournament. 606 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,519 He was injured early on. He came back strong in 607 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,640 the Finland game with a goal and assists, but over 608 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,359 the course of three games had one goal three assists, 609 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000 so it didn't come out with big numbers for him. 610 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,119 He did play in that Finland game. He played twenty 611 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,799 seven minutes coming back from injury in a game that 612 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,920 went about sixty two minutes before it ended dramatically in overtime. 613 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:12,519 Cole Hudson's Boston University team was sixth in Hockey East Conference. 614 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,279 At press time, things are not going great at Boston. 615 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,640 You considering that he's a leader of that roster in 616 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,240 terms of prospect stock or prestige if you want to 617 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,079 go by that and Boston University's roster. If you look 618 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:31,359 on elite prospects, everyone, almost everyone, ninety percent of the 619 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160 players on that roster have been drafted by an NHL 620 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200 team already. This is this looks like an AHL team 621 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,960 or something. It's pretty crazy that Boston University hasn't been 622 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,119 more successful. But again, don't blame the guy who's doing 623 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920 very well. There are twenty points in eighteen games. We're 624 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,359 going to put him in the NHL Rankking Pole up 625 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:52,559 against a guy who was drafted much earlier, and there 626 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,960 are many good things to say about and it's already 627 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,079 playing in the NHL. Denton Mattaichuk, who is two years 628 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,519 older and again was drafted the first round, whereas Cole 629 00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,480 Hudson was drafted two years later and in the second 630 00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:10,000 round mistakenly for many NHL teams. Cole Hudson wins this 631 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,160 poll seventy or sixty sixty eight to thirty two percent 632 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,480 over Mittey Chuck and again a big response. Denton is 633 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,599 fine and all, but it seems like this is blawed 634 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,559 to me, but I don't know, Victor. I know you 635 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,279 love Cole Hudson. What do you think of this? 636 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think this is accurate. 637 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,119 Speaker 2: In fact, when someone one of the patrons was recently 638 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,640 dming with me and talking about acquiring Hudson in this trade, 639 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160 and I was like, yeah, do it. The other pieces 640 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920 weren't substantial, And then I thought about it and said, 641 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,880 I'm not actually sure what's Hudson he meant? And then 642 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,640 I was like, it doesn't matter. You want you want 643 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,279 the Hudson, whether it's Cole or Lane. I think Cole 644 00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,279 we've talked about projects to be as good, if not 645 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,960 better than Laane in terms of a lot of his metrics, 646 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,839 a lot of his NHL's and PNHL. So I think 647 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,720 that you're gonna want Cole Hudson. He what the Americans 648 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,039 missed when he was out was so obvious. They just 649 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,319 could not move the puck. He had such a tremendous 650 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,079 impact on that team, and last year when they had 651 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:09,119 more stars, he took over a couple of those games. 652 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,680 He's a gamer, he's a difference maker. You want cool 653 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:16,079 huts on your team. That doesn't mean that Denti Mitchitchak 654 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,799 is bad by any means. I actually just traded for 655 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,079 him and the Tidy, which maybe we'll talk about on 656 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,440 a future episode. I think he's obviously blocked by Zach Wrensky, 657 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:28,400 one of the best out there, but he's still able 658 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,599 to be impactful. He's playing over twenty minutes. He's on 659 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,519 a forty point pace. He's injured right now as we're 660 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,480 recording this, but decent bash and decent point pace. So 661 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960 I think you got to take that for what it's worth. 662 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,119 And his offensive impacts in the NHL have been extremely 663 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,039 strong and suggests that he even deserves more points. His 664 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,839 defensive impacts have been a little bit below average. He's 665 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,880 treading water, I would say, so, I think that you 666 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,799 got to take huts in here, but I think frankly 667 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:53,799 you'd be okay with either of them. And I just 668 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,720 want to also say that the thing that happened to 669 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,319 him was super scary. In fact, I did a little 670 00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:01,599 digging upon it, and it's really weird what happened to him. 671 00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:03,599 He got hit in the neck with a puck and 672 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240 it basically shocked his spinal cord to the point where 673 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,000 he couldn't move. But luckily it was a temporary condition, 674 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,480 and he was able to regain full function. There's only 675 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720 been a couple of recorded cases of that ever happening, 676 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,119 which I thought was super interesting because obviously you fear 677 00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,160 the worst, and certainly proalysies and things like that can happen, 678 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,799 but they usually happened with a hit, being pushed into 679 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,440 the boards or having your neck turned or compressed in 680 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000 a certain way. A super interesting medical thing that happened. 681 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,559 But I'm glad he's completely fine, and I definitely would 682 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,160 I don't think there's going to be any long term 683 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,559 effects if anyone's wondering about that. It seemed completely reversible, 684 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,759 and obviously he played in the last game there. 685 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: But both these guys are interesting. 686 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: I would take Cole, though, and I think that it's 687 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,319 reasonable to want him close to seventy thirty there. 688 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: Totally. That is what I thought you'd say, and I 689 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,599 would agree with it. Let's move on to a guy 690 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,519 whose name I'm going to no longer mispronounce on this show, 691 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,759 and that is Michael h. Because he is showing out 692 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:05,480 top scorer in the World Junior's Tournament two goals thirteen 693 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:10,039 assists for fifteen points in seven games, again leading the tournament. 694 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,559 Hage has been very good at Michigan, with two straight 695 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,000 years over a point per game there, and of course 696 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,359 he was a first round draft pick in twenty twenty 697 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:24,200 four of the Montreal CANADIANSNHL ranking poll puts him up 698 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,559 against Yerikolit of the Buffalo Sabers, who has been out 699 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:33,200 for a long time this year, but is really still 700 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:37,039 very well regarded. It cool baffles me anyway, because I 701 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,160 have him in our four sport league and he never 702 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,920 really I don't know his reputation has exceeded his production 703 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,079 so far, but I will give the ben for the doubt. 704 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Is this the high tide of Hage or just the 705 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,279 evidence of a full breakout finally coming for him? 706 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: I think two things can be true here. Michael Hage 707 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,680 is awesome, and I think this might be the high 708 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,000 tide for him. So I think that you do want him. 709 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:06,559 I think that he will be good. I think that 710 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,400 he is probably still just a middle six center. I 711 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,599 don't know about just that's important. I think he can 712 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,360 be that two C that Montreal really needs down the road. 713 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,320 I think they clearly have their number one center and 714 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,159 no question about that now, and so can Hage be 715 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,239 the two C? Or is he more of a three C. 716 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,000 I think he's still in that neighborhood. But he showed 717 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400 a lot more of pushing to be a top sixer, 718 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,800 and he was awesome in this tournament. I think he 719 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,519 did everything you wanted them to be. He was one 720 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,880 of their best players with their leader. He showed a 721 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,599 lot of grit, and I think that you definitely want 722 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,599 him between these two because Coolick, as you said, he 723 00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,800 hasn't quite lived up fully to his potential. He's had 724 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,559 some injuries, they've had some depth issues there, and he 725 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,599 did center the top line for a minute there when 726 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,440 it looked okay, and he had some production, but yeah, 727 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,440 a lot of his underlying numbers still are not great. 728 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: I'd love to see. 729 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: Him in the lineup now when Buffalo is actually doing 730 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,119 well well, that would be fun to see, and I 731 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,079 think that he could contribute to that. I don't think 732 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,199 they're doing well because he's out or anything like that. 733 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,400 So I would definitely take Hage. But also if you 734 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,440 have Michael Hage, you might want to just see what 735 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,599 you could get from him, because if you could get 736 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239 seventy to eighty point guy like a Tage Thompson, I 737 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,000 don't know. I think I do that because I don't 738 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,199 know that he's going to hit fully that upside. I 739 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:21,639 think Age is going to be very good. I think 740 00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,280 he's going to be rosterble. I think he's going to 741 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,800 be someone you wouldn't mind having on your team. But 742 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,639 I have him righted as a six point seven four 743 00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,159 I meaning just above average, and he bashes pretty well. 744 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,159 He's probably going to play center, which means that they 745 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:34,280 might push him down to the third line at some 746 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,039 point and just have him drive his own line or 747 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,519 do a middle six kind of thing. So that's always 748 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,000 a bit worrisome when you have centers that they might 749 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,920 just need to plan a different line or get a 750 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,239 different line going, and so that's always a bit concerning. 751 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,719 But I like both these guys, and I still do 752 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,119 think there's hope for Koolick. I just think that Buffalo's 753 00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:52,840 been a mess for the whole time he's been there, 754 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,760 and maybe they're pulling out of it now and maybe 755 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,599 he can be part of that. 756 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: I think he has more to. 757 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: Give very good. Let's move on to talk about Zane Perak, 758 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,960 another guy we talked about last week. But again I'm 759 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:13,639 always down for PreK talk. He was on fire scoring 760 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,719 wise at the tournament, with five goals, eight assists thirteen 761 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,519 points in seven games. I'm impatient. I want him done 762 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,719 cooking in the Saddledome for reels playing for the Calgary Flames. 763 00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,960 I know you, and you and our guests last week 764 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,519 both expressed a little bit of doubt about how he 765 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,039 really looked out there, and this one kind of shocked me. 766 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 3: Victory. 767 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: The NHL ranking poll put Perek up against Alexander Nikishin, 768 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,079 and Perrek won sixty to forty. What happened there? Is that, right, 769 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,000 Victor am I did Alexander Nikishin? Did he like lose 770 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,880 a leg? Is he completely burn people out up in 771 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,039 the pros? What do you think of all this? 772 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,159 Speaker 3: I think a few things happen here. 773 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,559 Speaker 2: One Parak has come or sorry, Nikishon has come in, 774 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,719 and people alway want the new shiny toy to just 775 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,400 ascend the top of the lineup and play all the 776 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,920 minutes and do all the things. And even though he's 777 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,559 played several years in the KHL, he's still a rookie 778 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:13,239 in the NHL, and especially in Carolina, how they deploy things, 779 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,320 there's just no way that was going to happen, Like 780 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,159 he wasn't going to get all the top minutes, he 781 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:19,800 wasn't going to get the most important role, and they 782 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,760 still has some pretty good defenders on that lead on 783 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360 that team, right, So I think some people are a 784 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960 little disappointed with what he has done, but he's still 785 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,480 depending on how you look at it, top five, top four, 786 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,920 depending on injuries. In terms of ice time, yeah, it's 787 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,360 a little bit less than maybe you would like, but 788 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,679 even strength anyways, So I think that you have to 789 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,320 be a little bit more patient. 790 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 3: With or Pink. 791 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,159 Speaker 2: Some people also saw PreK with all the points he 792 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,480 scored at the World Juniors, and just focusing on that, 793 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400 we talked last week how there's a lot more concerns 794 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,239 about PreK than just the points. The points were never 795 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,079 really the concern, it was the rest of the game. 796 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,840 And so I think this poll is wild as well. 797 00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,800 I think it would absolutely take Alexander Nikisha. He clearly 798 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,000 is NHL or you look at his underlying numbers, and 799 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,559 his offensive impact is incredible to the eightieth percentile and 800 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,800 his overall impact is sixty three. Like his defense hasn't 801 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,760 been great, but he's been good enough and he's on 802 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,159 a good team, and he's bashing, and he's learning and acclimating, 803 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,239 and I think he ultimately will step into that top line, 804 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,840 top pair role, and I think that's the guy. 805 00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 3: That you're gonna want. 806 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: Zane PreK we talked about the issues, and he will 807 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,440 be on the top power Play eventually if he sticks 808 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,679 in the NHL, But is he going to be like 809 00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:31,119 a Tyson Barry third pair Top power Play limited minutes? 810 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 3: And of course Barry did. 811 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 2: Have some strong seasons, but he also was a bit 812 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,800 frustrating at times when it wasn't going well and he 813 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,119 was getting benched and not living up to maybe the 814 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,800 full potential that he could have had. So I would 815 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,840 definitely rather have Nikishen here. I'm definitely worried about the 816 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,360 full projection of PreK and how well he can actually 817 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,119 how high he can ascend, So those are still some 818 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,559 concerns in mine. But yeah, I was a bit surprised 819 00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:59,039 by this too, wondering sometimes if we're watching the same 820 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,679 thing what some people are seeing, But sometimes you see 821 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:03,519 what you want to see. You see the goers goals 822 00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:05,840 in the scoring, and he had some really beautiful goals 823 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,599 and some really impressive offensive output, and maybe that's all 824 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:09,800 people were focused on Jesse. 825 00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:13,119 Speaker 4: Shoot, I need to look at where I have back 826 00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:15,239 and see if I can make a swing for Nikishing, 827 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,800 because I think I would still like to try that 828 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,960 one Victor, any last takes on these World Juniors as 829 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,440 we kind of wrap this episode. 830 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,159 Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, this was a great tournament. 831 00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,119 Speaker 2: I think just always remember that this is a snapshot 832 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,079 in time the World Junior, and I would encourage to 833 00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:36,559 make any big decisions one way or the other, stock 834 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,960 up or stock down. These are snippets in time, and 835 00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:41,719 there have been plenty of star players who didn't have 836 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,280 exceptional World Juniors, and there have been plenty of players 837 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920 who've had exceptional World Juniors who don't become relevant at 838 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960 all in the NHL. So don't read it too much 839 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,639 into it one way or the other. And generally, most 840 00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,280 people's strategy that I talked to is they like to 841 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,960 sell high on their players who do well at the 842 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,039 World Juniors, and I think that works out more often 843 00:39:59,079 --> 00:39:59,320 than not. 844 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 4: All right, very good Victor, Thanks and we will be 845 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:17,079 back right after this. Quot about our show band tracks 846 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,280 dot Com You've heard me say it before. There's the 847 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,079 website that sponsors all of our leagues. Can start new leagues, 848 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,320 lots of different sports, all the options you're gonna want. 849 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,920 I've got some Baseball first year player drafts coming up. 850 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:33,159 I can customize it to the exact number of Indians pitched, 851 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,000 games played, of course, the hitters at bats or games played. 852 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,320 Whatever you want, man, just set it. If you want 853 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,159 to set it where when somebody graduates during the year, 854 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,239 they can stay in your minors slots for the rest 855 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,199 of the year, you can do that. You want to 856 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:48,760 make it so that they got to be taken out 857 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,440 of those minor slots in a couple of days, you 858 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,280 can do that. You want to make it so that 859 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,599 if they actually get sent down to the minors, but 860 00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:56,800 they're a pro player, they can be sent down. 861 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 3: You can do that. 862 00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 4: Man. Everything is there in that goes for hockey as well. 863 00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,000 Fantraks HQ, lots of fantasy content over in that right 864 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,960 hand column. When you're on your team roster page, articles 865 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,920 on fantasy hockey, other fantasy sports, FHL, the team, it's 866 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,480 like Spaceball's the Breakfast Cereal. It's Tim Ryan Crafter and 867 00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:22,719 Simoon doing Tidy League commissioner stuff. Tidy League is about 868 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,440 wrapping up the regular season and your boy is selling. 869 00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,039 You might hear something about that on next week's episode. 870 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,840 Tony and Patrick are lead scouts. We're gonna have scouting reports. 871 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,199 We always have scouting reports coming up. Brandon helps with 872 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,000 the website, prospect ranks and visualization. Sometimes I think you 873 00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,440 can see the prospect ranks there. But did you know 874 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,239 that Victor ranks all prospects and we've got some database 875 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,840 stuff that will project their stud score, their bash, a 876 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,280 lot of those types of things when they get up 877 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,800 in the pros. It's pretty useful. I use it myself 878 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400 when when I'm trying to get things done, and I 879 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,719 think you've got to be subscribed as a Patreon to 880 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,679 a certain level to see that. But some of the 881 00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:03,079 stuff you can see for free. If you'd like to 882 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,760 help the show get better and the Fantasy Hockey Life 883 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,239 universe get better. Victor would love to hear from me. 884 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,800 He's always looking for ideas. We're always looking for ideas. 885 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,760 Find Victor in the discord, email or social media. Victor 886 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,639 and I are brought to you also by Dabber Hockey, 887 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,719 Dabber Prospects, Daber Hockey Man. I think I just saw there. 888 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,280 They've been it for twenty years. Good job, Dabber. That 889 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,199 is some great stuff. And Dabber Prospects is just a 890 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,079 part of that whole amalgamation, that whole empire of hockey websites. 891 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:34,400 Victor is an editor over there. That's what makes Doaber 892 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,400 Prospects special. He writes a column called The Journey, and 893 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,519 I do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I 894 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:44,400 talk about lots of different Dynasty Sports. This week, you 895 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,840 are going to hear there's a lot of hockey on 896 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440 this week's episode. We do what I call a city 897 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,840 Blender series, where we take all of it. Because I 898 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,119 like multi sport leagues. We have a four sport league 899 00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:59,000 that's part of the Dynasty Sports Live community. Eighteen teams, 900 00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:02,760 four sports callery caps everything. You want to trade Austin 901 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,039 Matthews for Josh Allen, you can, And in this episode 902 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,400 that question actually comes up because what we do is 903 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,159 I try to take all the teams in a metropolitan area, 904 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:17,719 throw them together, and then me and Marcus, a FHL patron, 905 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400 a friend of mine, and he comes on and he 906 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,800 and I are going to rank all the players from 907 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,199 the Toronto and the Buffalo Professional Sports team. So we 908 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,599 got two hockey teams, one football, one basketball, one baseball, 909 00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,679 and we try to slot them. And let me tell you, folks, 910 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,280 a lot of hockey players from Buffalo in Toronto making 911 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:41,039 that list. Social media follow us on x Fan, Hockey Life, 912 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,800 Victor and New twelve or Blue Sky probably a little 913 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,719 more active there, Jesse Severe All one Word or the 914 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,119 one Victor with the one being an actual number you 915 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,679 could rate, reviews, Apple Pod, Spotify, wherever else you get 916 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,199 your podcast. Thank you for listening to everybody. Hope you 917 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480 enjoyed this edition of Scouts About and until next time, 918 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:02,119 keep but that's man's just see hockey later