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Speaker 1: Well here we are welcome to the Big Podcast. Happy

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Monday to you on this President's Day. Yeah, no, no, no,

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it's a federal holiday. Not much as closed. The banks

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are closed, the government is closed, and Wall Street is closed.

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So that's about it. Everything else I think is open.

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It's one of those kind of holidays where I don't

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know it's around. I'll tell you. I'll get to a

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piece and just a bit. There's a wonderful piece written

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by George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush.

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Speaker 1: They're doing some sort of project. Basically, he wrote a

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piece today that's in the New York Times about George Washington,

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and it's open. It's a series of essays about US

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presidents and George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. There's one

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mother that also three presidents that have written about all

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President Obama about prior presidents. So in this essay that

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George W. Bush wrote today, he says few qualities have

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inspired me more than George Washington's humility. Our first president

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could have remained all powerful, but twice he chose not

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to about relinquishing leadership after the revolution American Revolutionary War.

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Then he stepped down as president after two terms, and

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Bush wrote, by relinquishing power rather than holding on to it.

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He ensured America would become would not become, sorry, a

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monarchy or worse. So it's a piece about humility. And

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George Bush doesn't really do interviews anymore, but he wrote

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this essay as part of this project that they're putting

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together for the two hundred and fifty year anniversary. There's

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also Bill Clinton wrote one on or is going to

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write one on Theodore Roosevelt. Barack Obama is going to

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write a essay on Abraham Lincoln. Brett behar Over at

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Fox has been asked to write one, so he's writing

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on President Eisenhower, and Chief Justice John Roberts is writing

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one on William Howard Taft, who happens to be the

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only person to serve both as President and a Supreme Court.

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So it's all part of the two hundred and fiftieth commemoration.

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And now they're not writing about they're not asking Donald

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Trump or Joe Biden to write. The thing is too

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it's too new, and it's full of all kinds of pitfalls.

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So that's what the project is all about, and it'd

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be worth reading George w. Bush's essay about George Washington.

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So we've got that. I also want to start the

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podcast today with a personal note that's making news. Robert

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duval the actor, has passed away today at the age

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of ninety five. Actually he died at his home in

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Virginia yesterday at ninety five. Robert Duvall and my wife's

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family were as close as you could be. They ve

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ak together, they went. I mean they've they've known each other,

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very close friends for a long long time. So hats

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off to Duvaul. I mean, he's getting a lot of

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news today because he was He was not just your

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average actor. He was huge and well he right, this

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is the ball. He was interviewed I don't know, four

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or five years ago, and he tells the story about

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when he was a young guy trying to break in

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to acting. He and two other guys were we'd go

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around every day around Broadway in New York looking for

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acting jobs. Here's a little bit from Robert Duvall and

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his book. Brando said wonderful things about I mean, that's

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enough for me. We used to gather at Cromwell's drug store, me,

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Tustin Hoff, and Gene Hagman two three, four times a week.

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Speaker 3: Way back.

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Speaker 1: If we mentioned Brando's name once we mentioned at thirty times.

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Speaker 2: He was like our guy.

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Speaker 1: He was our guy Brando. And you know when he

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you get a pat on the back by him, then

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you don't care what all the other people say. Story was,

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he and Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman were three young guys.

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They were doing what three young guys trying to get

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into the active business do. They were waiting tables, they

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were being janitors, they were doing anything they could to

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make some money. Hackman was married, but Dustin Hoffman was not.

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So Duval and Hoffman were roommates in some cheap place

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in New York. That was a long time ago, because

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I mean he lived a good long life, ninety five

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years of age. And his family. I've gotten to know

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the Duval family, and they're all very successful people in

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their own right and all with humility. Nobody thinks of

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themselves as a big deal, but they are all very

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successful people. So our condolences to the Dubal family today.

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Cighton David over at Variety, one of many from Hollywood

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chiming in, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, it's incredibly sad, you know when you look at

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this time that we're currently in, you know, after losing

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Jeane Hahman and over the last year, and you look

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at a person like Robert Duvall, who's been a staple

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of cinema for over six or seven decades. It is

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a loss that you know is incredibly sad. But at

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ninety five years old, I mean, what a career, what

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a life, so many memorable roles, including The Godfather, Apocalypse now,

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you know, smell of Nate Palm in the morning is

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like one of those one liners you'll just remember forever.

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And for people like my wife, to Kill a Mockingbird

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is her favorite film of all time. Boo Radley and

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to Kill a Mockingbird, this is he means a lot

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to a lot of people. You know, for a lot

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of people, they'll say The Godfather. But I was the

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nineties kid, so you know, you catch up with a

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lot of the classics that you get older. I remember

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one of the first movies ever remember watching Robert Balin

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was Falling Down with Michael Douglass Joel Schumacher classic in

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the in the mid nineties, I remember seeing him in

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The Apostle, which this movie he directed, got nominated for

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a Best Actor the same year as Titanic was an

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incredible performance. He played a preacher, and then he was

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still working even still recently, just over a decade ago,

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he got nominated for another Oscar for The Judge opposite

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to be nominated for Supporting Actor. He was eighty four

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at the time. So he's one of those actors that

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if we have to argue about what's his best movie,

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that means you're a pretty good actor. We can't agree.

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The fact that this happened, you know today, and you

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know it's bringing here in California. I mean, it seems

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also pretty you know, serendipitous, like you know, the world

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is crying because we lost a great man today. So

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also like he did.

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Speaker 1: He lived a very good, long life and again very humble,

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very down to earth man, his whole family, everybody. So yeah,

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our condolences again to the du Baal family. So we've

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got the latest on Nancy Gotthrie. I know people are going, oh, man,

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come on, I know they haven't found her. And that's

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the thing. They haven't found her. What's really strange about

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all of this is they, for some reason, I presume

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they're working with Mexican authorities. But I mean, Mexico's just

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an hour down the road. In any case, it's still

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going right. So rather than I've got four hundred comments

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from various police experts and FBI retired, FBI this and

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retired share with that, and we've heard all of those

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comments over and over again. But Harvey Levin over at

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TMZ got yet another email from the guy that wants

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payment in order to say where Nancy Guthree is being

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held and by whom she's being held. Here's Harvey Levin

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talking about it today.

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Speaker 5: It is Monday morning. We have received a fourth letter

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from the same person who says that he knows where

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Nancy gotthree is and he wants money in return for

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the information. Essentially, he wants the reward. So I have

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something to say to you, and I have already talked

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to the FBI about this, that if you are not real,

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you're committing a crime and you should know that, and

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this is a serious federal crime. If you are real.

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This is the fourth letter you've sent, and I should

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tell everybody that. In this letter, it says I know

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what I saw five days ago south of the border,

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and I was told to shut up, so I know

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who he is and that was definitely Nancy with them.

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than one person involved in this. He said there is

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a main person and there are others, and he said

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it here he is saying that Nancy was taken to Mexico.

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Now this is what he's saying. I'm not going to

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vouch for him, but this is the fourth letter. We

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have sent them all on to the FBI. And he

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also says one of the reasons he's worried about coming

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forward is he has a record. He has a burglary

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on his record from ten years ago. So I don't

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know if you're real or not if you're watching this,

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but if you are, and I have told the FBI

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that we're going to do this, they know.

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Speaker 1: This that.

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Speaker 5: If you're worried about getting this money and you really

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do have this information, send it to us. You're sending

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us these letters, send it to us. We will forward

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it to the FBI, and that way there's a record

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that we have that you supplied this information. If they

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find her, and they find the kidnapper, then at least

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there is evidence because we have it that you're the

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one who provided the information. So this is a way

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for you to get that money. If this really is legitimate,

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send us the information. We will pass it on to

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the FBI, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we'll see what happens with that. But I

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think I get pretty clear everybody thinks this is bogus.

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But that's the problem with situations like this, you never know.

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Savanah Got three did put out another videotape earlier today.

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Let's listen to what she said.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to come on and it's been two weeks

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since our mom was taken, and I just wanted to

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come on and say that we still have hope and

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we still believe. And I wanted to say to whoever

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has her or knows where she is, that it's never

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too late, and you're not lost or alone, and it

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is never too late to do the right thing, and

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we are here, we believe, and we believe in the

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essential goodness of every human being.

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Speaker 1: So she's worn out. You can tell the stress on her.

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the fourth one that she's put out. That it's not

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not scripted, that's totally adalib just like the last one.

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First two were scripted. I think the FBI wanted her

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to say certain things, but in the last one and

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then today, Savannah is just pouring her heart out there

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about wanting her mother back. One law enforcement expert on

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all this is John Miller. I always think that he's

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about the most informed person of all the group that

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we hear from. Let's see what he says today.

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Speaker 2: They are trying to appeal directly to the kidnappers, but

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a broader appeal. I believe that part of their message

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is sure, if anybody saw anything, tell us. We've heard

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that a number of times, and that goes without saying

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if you're the kidnapper, we believe she's still out there.

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be in physically. But I think it's also inherent in

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that message that she's appealing to the good in people

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because she understands that someone out there who may not

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white spouse, a friend, someone who is associated with the

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kidnapper maybe had knowledge of the plot or saw something.

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She is and when you see the video, she is

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clearly exhausted. She's been under so much pressure, but she's

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saying there's someone out there who has the key to

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us getting our mother back.

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Speaker 1: So as far as behind the scenes, it's kind of

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a strange way that they're going about this. They found

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that glove. Everybody saw that last week. If you're following

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this case, they found a glove. They've actually they found

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six steam gloves. What's with all the gloves out there

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in the desert. But apparently they're saying a lot of

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the the people that are out looking for evidence are

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wearing gloves and they just toss them, which is what's

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the matter with those people? In any case, they found

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sixteen gloves. This one, they say, looks like the one

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in the video on the front porch, So it looks

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like that, and that's the one that they sent off

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to Florida. Now they've done their work, they are sending

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it to the FBI. For the FBI has the control

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over the codis database. That is the database that has

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every DNA in it of everybody who's ever been convicted

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of a crime. So they're trying to match that right

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now as we speak. In fact, by the time you

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hear this podcast, they may have already discovered whatever the

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answer is. The chances of it are slim. To none.

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said there was DNA in the home. Okay, there was

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DNA obviously on the glove that the bad guy was wearing.

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and a half miles down the road in on the

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side of the road. I doubt it. But they're going

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to find somebody's DNA and then from there they've got

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to figure out who that was. What I'm still I

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don't understand is if they found DNA in the home,

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he likes in Florida. Why haven't they sent that up

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to Quantico? Baby they have? And then if they get

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no hit on that because there's not it doesn't match

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anybody in Cotis, then do the genial logical DNA that's

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not brand new. Now it's been a few years. They

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caught the Golden State killer that way out in California.

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was working in the He's a lab technician. He's the

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one who came up with this idea of doing genealogical research,

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putting together a family tree that's how they caught the

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guy who killed the four kids in Idaho. So I

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don't know what they're doing, but they are working on

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that DNA. We'll see what they come up with. I

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hate to be this way, but it sounds like the

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sheriff there almost doesn't know about genealogical DNA. He keeps

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talking about, well, we'll run and see what we'll get. Meantime,

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they have something called a signal snipper and it's on

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their helicopter, and that's why they're flying the helicopter low

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around Nancy got Thrie's home. Is it picks up the

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signal from a pacemaker. If you live in that area

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and you have a pacemaker, they're going to find your signals,

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not going to hurt anything, but they're looking for Nancy's pacemaker,

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and so far they haven't said that they've founded back

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to the home. The sheriff said there's more cameras in

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the home. Are they trying to extract the video from those?

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Day sixteen, that they have no leading theories. They don't

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know if it's really about money or about revenge. Somebody

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do something and somebody's getting back at Savannah or the family.

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Was it just a robbery gone bad and they did not.

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with them. And then there's over the weekend there was

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that big They had a caravan of police vehicles and

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exam trucks and others that went out to do a

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search of a home. And they went through that home.

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in that warrant you have to tell the judge we

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believe that there is criminal material in this location. And

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then they also found a third person from that home

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that was in his car in a restaurant parking lot.

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back of a car. They interrogated him for three hours,

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and once again they let all these people go, but

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they did not let him take his car. It's a

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range Rover Silver Range Rover. They impounded it for I'm going, well,

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how would you let that guy go if there's something

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in the car. I don't understand. They keep releasing the

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crime scene. They release people right and left, so there's

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a lot going on. I just thought that you need

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to have probable cause of a crime or a criminal

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material for a judge to sign off on a warrant,

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and they keep getting warrants and they keep not funding anything.

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Then there's the question about whether Savannah will even go

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back to the Today Show. People are saying that, and

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I get this, that she would be fearful as somebody

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would try and get other members of her family. So

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she's we'll see what she does. God bless the woman.

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So we got all of that. What else do we have? Well,

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the government's still shut down. I know it's a holiday today,

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so you probably did not notice because all of the

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government is shut down today. But yeah, we've got the

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Department of Homeland Security. We're not talking about the Post Office,

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talking about homeland security. This was put together right after

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nine to eleven to protect our nation, and instead Congress

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hasn't funded it. Old timver shit, good old boy. This

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is his reaction.

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Speaker 3: They have no real agenda other than the disrupt President

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Trump's agenda, and that's America's agenda. Who in the world

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would want to defund ice, defund FAMA, defund the TSA.

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Why would you do that? All you want to do

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is cause pain in this country. It's clearly clearly about politics.

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So the issue is I've got the list from the

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Democrats in Congress about what they want before they will

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fund DHS. One of them is they want targeted enforcement.

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All right, Well, Tom Holman went to Minneapolis and he

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he was I mean, he didn't come out and lambasted

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them too much, but basically they were not doing targeted enforcement.

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Speaker 1: And he said, that's what we're doing. That's what we do,

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and that's what we're going to continue to do. And

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everybody in Minneapolis, Saint Paul said great. So number one

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on their list has been satisfied. Number two on the

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list is no masks. This is where I differ from

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a lot of people that I know that are conservatives

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or lean right. I wore a badge, carried a gun.

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I never wore a mask. Most is your local police department,

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are they wearing masks? No? How about your highway patrol,

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your state police, how about your county sheriff? Are they

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wearing masks? No. I've complained about the fact that a

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lot of them are starting to look like soldiers. They're

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wearing camo and ball caps and all they should wear

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police uniforms. And I don't have a problem with the

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fact that they should not wear masks unless they were

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undercover officers trying to keep something. So number two on

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the list, no masks. I'm good with that. And guess

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who else is also he doesn't want to do it,

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but he understands and he's he's okay with it is

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Tom Holman.

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Speaker 7: As far as a mask, Look, you know, I don't

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like the masks either, but because threats against ice officers,

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you know, are up over fifteen hundred percent. Actual assaults

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and threats are up over eight thousand percent, these men

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and women have to protect themselves. As far as I

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dentifying themselves, they all have plaquers. I dentify himself as

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ICE e er O HSI DEA FBI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you heard what he said. I don't

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like masks either, he said. But I mean most police

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officers where they have a badge with a badge number.

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And I can't tell you how many people said to me,

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what's your badge number? I tell him. And I also

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had a name tag on the front of my shirt,

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and so I I mean, I'm sorry, even in the army,

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all of you in the military, you have your name

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tag right there on the front of your uniform. So

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I'm not sure what the big I know they're getting threats.

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I got threats to everybody was going to that I

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was going to arrest a put in jail, and I'm

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going to come find you and kill your family. Okay,

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what else do they want of us? Let's require ID. Okay,

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that's the name tag for protect sensitive Locations. That's totally

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misinformation about ICE rating churches and schools. They chased a

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guy one time, five miles who crashed into a school

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and they said, oh, you're going into schools. No, they

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weren't number five in racial profiling. I agree. So I mean,

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I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, this doesn't seem

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like it's all that hard to agree to. But that's

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what the disagreement's about. Republican Congressman from South Florida Carlos Tamenez,

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he also doesn't really have a problem with masks.

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Speaker 8: Depends on the on the issue. I know that one

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of the things that they asked for is body cameras

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on all ICE agents. I have absolutely no problem with that.

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I think I've stated on this show that when I

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was mayor of Miami Dade County, one of the One

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of the first things I did has the mayor was

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also the sheriff of the Miami Day Police Department, was

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put body cameras on all our police officers because I

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think body cameras can answer a lot of questions that

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are left kind of open whenever you know you don't

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know exactly what happened in the situation. Body cameras have

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a way of answering those and then putting people's minds

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at ease. Most of the time, the officers the events

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the way that they saw it. It was actually what happened,

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and so we were able to calm down a lot

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of the community on let's say, police shootings and all that.

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A lot of that was calmed down through the use

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of body camera. So I'm using I'm good with that.

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As far as unmasking ICE agents, I could also know,

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probably not because many of those are involved in undercover

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operations and you don't want to put them in danger.

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree with them. One. Undercover officers should stay undercover.

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They should not be out there on the front anyway.

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They're the ones who do the other type of work.

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So I don't see the big disagreement. One of the

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things though, that is this isn't about the list. I mean,

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we've gone over the we'd go over the list, the

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body cameras and mass id all that sort of stuff.

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This really comes down to what's the politics behind this?

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And the man who answers this just a straight shooting

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as you can get, is Senator Mark Wayne Bullen from Oklahoma.

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Listen to his theory about why this shut down.

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Speaker 9: Well, if we were actually negotiating on actual terms to reopen, yes,

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but that's not the state of play here. The state

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of play is to be shut down during the state

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of the Union for DHS, and that's what has always been.

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If it was actual a conversation about reforms, it wouldn't

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have taken them ten days to come back with a

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proposal after they shut us down almost three weeks ago.

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And then when they did send us a proposal, the

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White House sent back a rebuttal another proposal that's way

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negotiations work, in forty eight hours, and then they wouldn't

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even negotiate on another cr The whole state of play

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was they knew that himing behind this right when they

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shut us down. They knew that we're going into this

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holiday weekend, meaning that all TSA. All the federal employees

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to which they're holding hostage here through DHS was going

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to go ahead and receive their payment, their first paid

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or the middle of the month pay check, because they

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get paid on the fifteenth and on the first, but

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because fifteenth fell yesterday, they got paid on Friday, and

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then the first will be after the State of the Union,

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and so this isn't about really making changes. This is

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just political theater for them to go into because they

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can't talk about the border because President Trump has secured that.

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They can't talk about the economy because the economy is booming.

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They can't talk about taxes because we lower taxes. They

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can't talk about foreign policy because the world is safer.

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They can't talk about anything except more rhetoric about what

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they had done here by holding what well employee federal

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employees hostage once again like they did just a few

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months ago.

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Speaker 1: I think he nailed it. I think that's what it's about.

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It's about the politics. State of the Union, by the way,

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is week from Tuesday is the twenty fourth of February.

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President Trump will give his second State of the Union

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in his second term, So that's coming up. Making of

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President's I told you about George w Bush writing a

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piece on George Washington. President Obama was being interviewed by

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a guy who Lean's Left has some podcast. But the

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first question that he asked him, and the answer is

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getting I don't know some chuckles. Are aliens real?

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Speaker 10: They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not

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being kept in what is it fifty one? There's no

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underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hit

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it from the President of the United.

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Speaker 1: States, What was the first question you wanted answered when

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you became president?

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Speaker 10: Where the alien?

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Speaker 1: So were the audiences that made me laugh? Yeah, So

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he asked them, you know, are are the aliens real?

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I think they are. I think there's life out there

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besides us, somewhere out in the universe. But that's getting

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a lot of attention and it's not political. So I

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thought we would plug that in there as well. So

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that's it for today. The markets are closed today because

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of President's Day. It's actually you know, President's Day was

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actually supposed to be Washington's birthday, and his birthday is

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the twenty second. They had a holiday for Lincoln on

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the twelfth and Washington on the twenty second, and somebody said,

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that's too many holidays. There's something like twelve, like there

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are twelve federal holidays out there, and so they're going, okay,

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But it's officially Washington's birthday, but everybody calls it President's Day.

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It's really about mattress sales, isn't it, Because all you

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hear about is it's President's Day. Go buy a mattress

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in any case. Oh and by the way, the president's

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approval is just in the tank, and everybody in their

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brother has him down really far, in the low thirties,

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if you will. But the New York Times came out

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today and actually has a higher number than most others

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as far as approval. Regarding the economy, thirty five percent

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of the voters say that Joe Biden was to blame

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for the lousy economy. Thirty one percent blame Donald Trump,

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thirty three percent say neither but yeah, thirty five percent

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blame Biden, thirty one percent blame Trump for the lousy economy.

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We'll see if it's lousy. But there's people that are

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struggling to try to keep up with bills because the

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price of things is not going up as fast, but

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it's still most things are still going higher. That's why

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we have what was the report to zero point seven

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percent inflation something No. Two point five came out just

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a couple of days ago. I haven't memorized it. But

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everybody's economy is unique to their own circumstances. So that's

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it for today. No markets. Markets are closed. We're going

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to take a break and be back again tomorrow. Hopefully

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we will see you there.

