Speaker 1: Well here we are welcome to the Big Podcast. Happy
Monday to you on this President's Day. Yeah, no, no, no,
it's a federal holiday. Not much as closed. The banks
are closed, the government is closed, and Wall Street is closed.
So that's about it. Everything else I think is open.
It's one of those kind of holidays where I don't
know it's around. I'll tell you. I'll get to a
piece and just a bit. There's a wonderful piece written
by George W.
Speaker 2: Bush.
Speaker 1: They're doing some sort of project. Basically, he wrote a
piece today that's in the New York Times about George Washington,
and it's open. It's a series of essays about US
presidents and George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. There's one
mother that also three presidents that have written about all
President Obama about prior presidents. So in this essay that
George W. Bush wrote today, he says few qualities have
inspired me more than George Washington's humility. Our first president
could have remained all powerful, but twice he chose not
to about relinquishing leadership after the revolution American Revolutionary War.
Then he stepped down as president after two terms, and
Bush wrote, by relinquishing power rather than holding on to it.
He ensured America would become would not become, sorry, a
monarchy or worse. So it's a piece about humility. And
George Bush doesn't really do interviews anymore, but he wrote
this essay as part of this project that they're putting
together for the two hundred and fifty year anniversary. There's
also Bill Clinton wrote one on or is going to
write one on Theodore Roosevelt. Barack Obama is going to
write a essay on Abraham Lincoln. Brett behar Over at
Fox has been asked to write one, so he's writing
on President Eisenhower, and Chief Justice John Roberts is writing
one on William Howard Taft, who happens to be the
only person to serve both as President and a Supreme Court.
So it's all part of the two hundred and fiftieth commemoration.
And now they're not writing about they're not asking Donald
Trump or Joe Biden to write. The thing is too
it's too new, and it's full of all kinds of pitfalls.
So that's what the project is all about, and it'd
be worth reading George w. Bush's essay about George Washington.
So we've got that. I also want to start the
podcast today with a personal note that's making news. Robert
duval the actor, has passed away today at the age
of ninety five. Actually he died at his home in
Virginia yesterday at ninety five. Robert Duvall and my wife's
family were as close as you could be. They ve
ak together, they went. I mean they've they've known each other,
very close friends for a long long time. So hats
off to Duvaul. I mean, he's getting a lot of
news today because he was He was not just your
average actor. He was huge and well he right, this
is the ball. He was interviewed I don't know, four
or five years ago, and he tells the story about
when he was a young guy trying to break in
to acting. He and two other guys were we'd go
around every day around Broadway in New York looking for
acting jobs. Here's a little bit from Robert Duvall and
his book. Brando said wonderful things about I mean, that's
enough for me. We used to gather at Cromwell's drug store, me,
Tustin Hoff, and Gene Hagman two three, four times a week.
Speaker 3: Way back.
Speaker 1: If we mentioned Brando's name once we mentioned at thirty times.
Speaker 2: He was like our guy.
Speaker 1: He was our guy Brando. And you know when he
you get a pat on the back by him, then
you don't care what all the other people say. Story was,
he and Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman were three young guys.
They were doing what three young guys trying to get
into the active business do. They were waiting tables, they
were being janitors, they were doing anything they could to
make some money. Hackman was married, but Dustin Hoffman was not.
So Duval and Hoffman were roommates in some cheap place
in New York. That was a long time ago, because
I mean he lived a good long life, ninety five
years of age. And his family. I've gotten to know
the Duval family, and they're all very successful people in
their own right and all with humility. Nobody thinks of
themselves as a big deal, but they are all very
successful people. So our condolences to the Dubal family today.
Cighton David over at Variety, one of many from Hollywood
chiming in, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, it's incredibly sad, you know when you look at
this time that we're currently in, you know, after losing
Jeane Hahman and over the last year, and you look
at a person like Robert Duvall, who's been a staple
of cinema for over six or seven decades. It is
a loss that you know is incredibly sad. But at
ninety five years old, I mean, what a career, what
a life, so many memorable roles, including The Godfather, Apocalypse now,
you know, smell of Nate Palm in the morning is
like one of those one liners you'll just remember forever.
And for people like my wife, to Kill a Mockingbird
is her favorite film of all time. Boo Radley and
to Kill a Mockingbird, this is he means a lot
to a lot of people. You know, for a lot
of people, they'll say The Godfather. But I was the
nineties kid, so you know, you catch up with a
lot of the classics that you get older. I remember
one of the first movies ever remember watching Robert Balin
was Falling Down with Michael Douglass Joel Schumacher classic in
the in the mid nineties, I remember seeing him in
The Apostle, which this movie he directed, got nominated for
a Best Actor the same year as Titanic was an
incredible performance. He played a preacher, and then he was
still working even still recently, just over a decade ago,
he got nominated for another Oscar for The Judge opposite
Robert Danny Jr. I caame the third oldest person ever
to be nominated for Supporting Actor. He was eighty four
at the time. So he's one of those actors that
if we have to argue about what's his best movie,
that means you're a pretty good actor. We can't agree.
The fact that this happened, you know today, and you
know it's bringing here in California. I mean, it seems
also pretty you know, serendipitous, like you know, the world
is crying because we lost a great man today. So
also like he did.
Speaker 1: He lived a very good, long life and again very humble,
very down to earth man, his whole family, everybody. So yeah,
our condolences again to the du Baal family. So we've
got the latest on Nancy Gotthrie. I know people are going, oh, man,
come on, I know they haven't found her. And that's
the thing. They haven't found her. What's really strange about
all of this is they, for some reason, I presume
they're working with Mexican authorities. But I mean, Mexico's just
an hour down the road. In any case, it's still
going right. So rather than I've got four hundred comments
from various police experts and FBI retired, FBI this and
retired share with that, and we've heard all of those
comments over and over again. But Harvey Levin over at
TMZ got yet another email from the guy that wants
payment in order to say where Nancy Guthree is being
held and by whom she's being held. Here's Harvey Levin
talking about it today.
Speaker 5: It is Monday morning. We have received a fourth letter
from the same person who says that he knows where
Nancy gotthree is and he wants money in return for
the information. Essentially, he wants the reward. So I have
something to say to you, and I have already talked
to the FBI about this, that if you are not real,
you're committing a crime and you should know that, and
this is a serious federal crime. If you are real.
This is the fourth letter you've sent, and I should
tell everybody that. In this letter, it says I know
what I saw five days ago south of the border,
and I was told to shut up, so I know
who he is and that was definitely Nancy with them.
This is the second time he has referred to more
than one person involved in this. He said there is
a main person and there are others, and he said
it here he is saying that Nancy was taken to Mexico.
Now this is what he's saying. I'm not going to
vouch for him, but this is the fourth letter. We
have sent them all on to the FBI. And he
also says one of the reasons he's worried about coming
forward is he has a record. He has a burglary
on his record from ten years ago. So I don't
know if you're real or not if you're watching this,
but if you are, and I have told the FBI
that we're going to do this, they know.
Speaker 1: This that.
Speaker 5: If you're worried about getting this money and you really
do have this information, send it to us. You're sending
us these letters, send it to us. We will forward
it to the FBI, and that way there's a record
that we have that you supplied this information. If they
find her, and they find the kidnapper, then at least
there is evidence because we have it that you're the
one who provided the information. So this is a way
for you to get that money. If this really is legitimate,
send us the information. We will pass it on to
the FBI, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So we'll see what happens with that. But I
think I get pretty clear everybody thinks this is bogus.
But that's the problem with situations like this, you never know.
Savanah Got three did put out another videotape earlier today.
Let's listen to what she said.
Speaker 6: I wanted to come on and it's been two weeks
since our mom was taken, and I just wanted to
come on and say that we still have hope and
we still believe. And I wanted to say to whoever
has her or knows where she is, that it's never
too late, and you're not lost or alone, and it
is never too late to do the right thing, and
we are here, we believe, and we believe in the
essential goodness of every human being.
Speaker 1: So she's worn out. You can tell the stress on her.
This was the second one in a row now, or
the fourth one that she's put out. That it's not
not scripted, that's totally adalib just like the last one.
First two were scripted. I think the FBI wanted her
to say certain things, but in the last one and
then today, Savannah is just pouring her heart out there
about wanting her mother back. One law enforcement expert on
all this is John Miller. I always think that he's
about the most informed person of all the group that
we hear from. Let's see what he says today.
Speaker 2: They are trying to appeal directly to the kidnappers, but
a broader appeal. I believe that part of their message
is sure, if anybody saw anything, tell us. We've heard
that a number of times, and that goes without saying
if you're the kidnapper, we believe she's still out there.
We want her back in any condition that she may
be in physically. But I think it's also inherent in
that message that she's appealing to the good in people
because she understands that someone out there who may not
be the kidnapper also may know that could be a
white spouse, a friend, someone who is associated with the
kidnapper maybe had knowledge of the plot or saw something.
She is and when you see the video, she is
clearly exhausted. She's been under so much pressure, but she's
saying there's someone out there who has the key to
us getting our mother back.
Speaker 1: So as far as behind the scenes, it's kind of
a strange way that they're going about this. They found
that glove. Everybody saw that last week. If you're following
this case, they found a glove. They've actually they found
six steam gloves. What's with all the gloves out there
in the desert. But apparently they're saying a lot of
the the people that are out looking for evidence are
wearing gloves and they just toss them, which is what's
the matter with those people? In any case, they found
sixteen gloves. This one, they say, looks like the one
in the video on the front porch, So it looks
like that, and that's the one that they sent off
to Florida. Now they've done their work, they are sending
it to the FBI. For the FBI has the control
over the codis database. That is the database that has
every DNA in it of everybody who's ever been convicted
of a crime. So they're trying to match that right
now as we speak. In fact, by the time you
hear this podcast, they may have already discovered whatever the
answer is. The chances of it are slim. To none.
But I don't blame them for trying because the sheriff
said there was DNA in the home. Okay, there was
DNA obviously on the glove that the bad guy was wearing.
But is that the same glove that they found one
and a half miles down the road in on the
side of the road. I doubt it. But they're going
to find somebody's DNA and then from there they've got
to figure out who that was. What I'm still I
don't understand is if they found DNA in the home,
I presume the sheriff sent it to the lab that
he likes in Florida. Why haven't they sent that up
to Quantico? Baby they have? And then if they get
no hit on that because there's not it doesn't match
anybody in Cotis, then do the genial logical DNA that's
not brand new. Now it's been a few years. They
caught the Golden State killer that way out in California.
A detective from East Bay, the Bay Area Police Department,
was working in the He's a lab technician. He's the
one who came up with this idea of doing genealogical research,
putting together a family tree that's how they caught the
guy who killed the four kids in Idaho. So I
don't know what they're doing, but they are working on
that DNA. We'll see what they come up with. I
hate to be this way, but it sounds like the
sheriff there almost doesn't know about genealogical DNA. He keeps
talking about, well, we'll run and see what we'll get. Meantime,
they have something called a signal snipper and it's on
their helicopter, and that's why they're flying the helicopter low
around Nancy got Thrie's home. Is it picks up the
signal from a pacemaker. If you live in that area
and you have a pacemaker, they're going to find your signals,
not going to hurt anything, but they're looking for Nancy's pacemaker,
and so far they haven't said that they've founded back
to the home. The sheriff said there's more cameras in
the home. Are they trying to extract the video from those?
I know it's hard, but at this point on this Monday,
Day sixteen, that they have no leading theories. They don't
know if it's really about money or about revenge. Somebody
do something and somebody's getting back at Savannah or the family.
Was it just a robbery gone bad and they did not.
Maybe Nancy knew who they were, so they took her
with them. And then there's over the weekend there was
that big They had a caravan of police vehicles and
exam trucks and others that went out to do a
search of a home. And they went through that home.
They had to get a warrant from a judge, and
in that warrant you have to tell the judge we
believe that there is criminal material in this location. And
then they also found a third person from that home
that was in his car in a restaurant parking lot.
They put him in cuffs, they put him in the
back of a car. They interrogated him for three hours,
and once again they let all these people go, but
they did not let him take his car. It's a
range Rover Silver Range Rover. They impounded it for I'm going, well,
how would you let that guy go if there's something
in the car. I don't understand. They keep releasing the
crime scene. They release people right and left, so there's
a lot going on. I just thought that you need
to have probable cause of a crime or a criminal
material for a judge to sign off on a warrant,
and they keep getting warrants and they keep not funding anything.
Then there's the question about whether Savannah will even go
back to the Today Show. People are saying that, and
I get this, that she would be fearful as somebody
would try and get other members of her family. So
she's we'll see what she does. God bless the woman.
So we got all of that. What else do we have? Well,
the government's still shut down. I know it's a holiday today,
so you probably did not notice because all of the
government is shut down today. But yeah, we've got the
Department of Homeland Security. We're not talking about the Post Office,
talking about homeland security. This was put together right after
nine to eleven to protect our nation, and instead Congress
hasn't funded it. Old timver shit, good old boy. This
is his reaction.
Speaker 3: They have no real agenda other than the disrupt President
Trump's agenda, and that's America's agenda. Who in the world
would want to defund ice, defund FAMA, defund the TSA.
Why would you do that? All you want to do
is cause pain in this country. It's clearly clearly about politics.
So the issue is I've got the list from the
Democrats in Congress about what they want before they will
fund DHS. One of them is they want targeted enforcement.
All right, Well, Tom Holman went to Minneapolis and he
he was I mean, he didn't come out and lambasted
them too much, but basically they were not doing targeted enforcement.
Speaker 1: And he said, that's what we're doing. That's what we do,
and that's what we're going to continue to do. And
everybody in Minneapolis, Saint Paul said great. So number one
on their list has been satisfied. Number two on the
list is no masks. This is where I differ from
a lot of people that I know that are conservatives
or lean right. I wore a badge, carried a gun.
I never wore a mask. Most is your local police department,
are they wearing masks? No? How about your highway patrol,
your state police, how about your county sheriff? Are they
wearing masks? No. I've complained about the fact that a
lot of them are starting to look like soldiers. They're
wearing camo and ball caps and all they should wear
police uniforms. And I don't have a problem with the
fact that they should not wear masks unless they were
undercover officers trying to keep something. So number two on
the list, no masks. I'm good with that. And guess
who else is also he doesn't want to do it,
but he understands and he's he's okay with it is
Tom Holman.
Speaker 7: As far as a mask, Look, you know, I don't
like the masks either, but because threats against ice officers,
you know, are up over fifteen hundred percent. Actual assaults
and threats are up over eight thousand percent, these men
and women have to protect themselves. As far as I
dentifying themselves, they all have plaquers. I dentify himself as
ICE e er O HSI DEA FBI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you heard what he said. I don't
like masks either, he said. But I mean most police
officers where they have a badge with a badge number.
And I can't tell you how many people said to me,
what's your badge number? I tell him. And I also
had a name tag on the front of my shirt,
and so I I mean, I'm sorry, even in the army,
all of you in the military, you have your name
tag right there on the front of your uniform. So
I'm not sure what the big I know they're getting threats.
I got threats to everybody was going to that I
was going to arrest a put in jail, and I'm
going to come find you and kill your family. Okay,
what else do they want of us? Let's require ID. Okay,
that's the name tag for protect sensitive Locations. That's totally
misinformation about ICE rating churches and schools. They chased a
guy one time, five miles who crashed into a school
and they said, oh, you're going into schools. No, they
weren't number five in racial profiling. I agree. So I mean,
I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, this doesn't seem
like it's all that hard to agree to. But that's
what the disagreement's about. Republican Congressman from South Florida Carlos Tamenez,
he also doesn't really have a problem with masks.
Speaker 8: Depends on the on the issue. I know that one
of the things that they asked for is body cameras
on all ICE agents. I have absolutely no problem with that.
I think I've stated on this show that when I
was mayor of Miami Dade County, one of the One
of the first things I did has the mayor was
also the sheriff of the Miami Day Police Department, was
put body cameras on all our police officers because I
think body cameras can answer a lot of questions that
are left kind of open whenever you know you don't
know exactly what happened in the situation. Body cameras have
a way of answering those and then putting people's minds
at ease. Most of the time, the officers the events
the way that they saw it. It was actually what happened,
and so we were able to calm down a lot
of the community on let's say, police shootings and all that.
A lot of that was calmed down through the use
of body camera. So I'm using I'm good with that.
As far as unmasking ICE agents, I could also know,
probably not because many of those are involved in undercover
operations and you don't want to put them in danger.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with them. One. Undercover officers should stay undercover.
They should not be out there on the front anyway.
They're the ones who do the other type of work.
So I don't see the big disagreement. One of the
things though, that is this isn't about the list. I mean,
we've gone over the we'd go over the list, the
body cameras and mass id all that sort of stuff.
This really comes down to what's the politics behind this?
And the man who answers this just a straight shooting
as you can get, is Senator Mark Wayne Bullen from Oklahoma.
Listen to his theory about why this shut down.
Speaker 9: Well, if we were actually negotiating on actual terms to reopen, yes,
but that's not the state of play here. The state
of play is to be shut down during the state
of the Union for DHS, and that's what has always been.
If it was actual a conversation about reforms, it wouldn't
have taken them ten days to come back with a
proposal after they shut us down almost three weeks ago.
And then when they did send us a proposal, the
White House sent back a rebuttal another proposal that's way
negotiations work, in forty eight hours, and then they wouldn't
even negotiate on another cr The whole state of play
was they knew that himing behind this right when they
shut us down. They knew that we're going into this
holiday weekend, meaning that all TSA. All the federal employees
to which they're holding hostage here through DHS was going
to go ahead and receive their payment, their first paid
or the middle of the month pay check, because they
get paid on the fifteenth and on the first, but
because fifteenth fell yesterday, they got paid on Friday, and
then the first will be after the State of the Union,
and so this isn't about really making changes. This is
just political theater for them to go into because they
can't talk about the border because President Trump has secured that.
They can't talk about the economy because the economy is booming.
They can't talk about taxes because we lower taxes. They
can't talk about foreign policy because the world is safer.
They can't talk about anything except more rhetoric about what
they had done here by holding what well employee federal
employees hostage once again like they did just a few
months ago.
Speaker 1: I think he nailed it. I think that's what it's about.
It's about the politics. State of the Union, by the way,
is week from Tuesday is the twenty fourth of February.
President Trump will give his second State of the Union
in his second term, So that's coming up. Making of
President's I told you about George w Bush writing a
piece on George Washington. President Obama was being interviewed by
a guy who Lean's Left has some podcast. But the
first question that he asked him, and the answer is
getting I don't know some chuckles. Are aliens real?
Speaker 10: They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not
being kept in what is it fifty one? There's no
underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hit
it from the President of the United.
Speaker 1: States, What was the first question you wanted answered when
you became president?
Speaker 10: Where the alien?
Speaker 1: So were the audiences that made me laugh? Yeah, So
he asked them, you know, are are the aliens real?
I think they are. I think there's life out there
besides us, somewhere out in the universe. But that's getting
a lot of attention and it's not political. So I
thought we would plug that in there as well. So
that's it for today. The markets are closed today because
of President's Day. It's actually you know, President's Day was
actually supposed to be Washington's birthday, and his birthday is
the twenty second. They had a holiday for Lincoln on
the twelfth and Washington on the twenty second, and somebody said,
that's too many holidays. There's something like twelve, like there
are twelve federal holidays out there, and so they're going, okay,
But it's officially Washington's birthday, but everybody calls it President's Day.
It's really about mattress sales, isn't it, Because all you
hear about is it's President's Day. Go buy a mattress
in any case. Oh and by the way, the president's
approval is just in the tank, and everybody in their
brother has him down really far, in the low thirties,
if you will. But the New York Times came out
today and actually has a higher number than most others
as far as approval. Regarding the economy, thirty five percent
of the voters say that Joe Biden was to blame
for the lousy economy. Thirty one percent blame Donald Trump,
thirty three percent say neither but yeah, thirty five percent
blame Biden, thirty one percent blame Trump for the lousy economy.
We'll see if it's lousy. But there's people that are
struggling to try to keep up with bills because the
price of things is not going up as fast, but
it's still most things are still going higher. That's why
we have what was the report to zero point seven
percent inflation something No. Two point five came out just
a couple of days ago. I haven't memorized it. But
everybody's economy is unique to their own circumstances. So that's
it for today. No markets. Markets are closed. We're going
to take a break and be back again tomorrow. Hopefully
we will see you there.