Speaker 1: You're listening to Everything out there with your host Steve Stockton.
Speaker 1: Hello friends, Hello once again, everybody's Steve Stockton here with
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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Joining me once again tonight Pastor Eric and
Speaker 1: Justin from South in the so Far at Messianic Ministries
Speaker 1: and to come back to continue their talk about the
Speaker 1: occult influence in popular culture. The pastors, how are you
Speaker 1: doing tonight? Good to have you back good? How are
Speaker 1: you doing good? Cold here New England? But uh, I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot colder there where a pastor Justin is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It's negative negative twelve, negative fifteen. So we we just
Speaker 3: bought a bought a f two to fifty diesel truck
Speaker 3: and on sing brother Eric, I learned a lot literally,
Speaker 3: if you don't warm it up, and if you don't
Speaker 3: keeping on fuel, your fuel can evaporate pretty quickly. But
Speaker 3: also if you don't put like this anti jail in it,
Speaker 3: it'll keep your your truck will be jail. So I've
Speaker 3: had to learned to get used to doing that. And
Speaker 3: uh but yeah, I took that thing up some mountains
Speaker 3: and that that King's ranch has got a aftermarket stuff,
Speaker 3: It's got some power. So Alaska's fun if you ever
Speaker 3: get an opportunity you come up here.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to visit, but I honestly don't think
Speaker 1: I could live there.
Speaker 4: I can't do cold weather anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you. I can tell you that
Speaker 3: the because we're we're in an area where the Alaska
Speaker 3: Triangle is and and it's real stuff. I mean that
Speaker 3: there is a play, there's a there's a spirit here,
Speaker 3: there's things here. People I've talked to, some people believe
Speaker 3: it's some people don't. But there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that influence here, just the weather. So if yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the weather, but the weather's kind of weird, you know,
Speaker 3: And but yeah, it's it's a really thing. It really is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard from other people that have lived there
Speaker 1: that there's some very dark energy. There are some evil
Speaker 1: spirits if you will, that all that place home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and a lot of the areas, and this will
Speaker 3: probably go into the segue of what we're going to
Speaker 3: talk about, but if you go to various villages, various things,
Speaker 3: you know, there's people believe that some of the areas
Speaker 3: that haven't been discovered could have burial sites. But within
Speaker 3: those areas there are a lot of pools that are
Speaker 3: opening up, and just not too far from here, there's
Speaker 3: people that have disappeared and they don't know how they disappeared.
Speaker 3: Granted it's weather, animal stuff like that, but you have
Speaker 3: people that will vash and they never see them again.
Speaker 3: So I think that what we're talking about tonight is
Speaker 3: a chain reaction of when you go against Uderonary eighteen,
Speaker 3: and you consult things, or you talk about things, or
Speaker 3: you make a pack with things, you open up something
Speaker 3: that's not going to leave your home and it's going
Speaker 3: to stay there. So I think that is kind of
Speaker 3: the segue of what we're going to talk about tonight
Speaker 3: in the reports has happened to various people historically when
Speaker 3: they've been in rock and roll or pop culture music
Speaker 3: or whatever, and the after after aftermath of their decision
Speaker 3: trying to make a pact with with things that go
Speaker 3: against God.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see that in not only rock music,
Speaker 1: but just in popular culture. The people bring things into
Speaker 1: their home and are really unaware of what they're bringing
Speaker 1: in there. I mean stuff like they can have attachments.
Speaker 1: I've heard it said that back in the day some
Speaker 1: of those rock records, they supposedly had ceremonies, dark ceremonies
Speaker 1: over the masters of those albums and sent demons with
Speaker 1: those albums so that anytime anybody played that the demon
Speaker 1: would be released or it could manifest.
Speaker 3: And well, if you if you watch, I think I
Speaker 3: assured this view of you guys. But if you've seen
Speaker 3: why concert with a lot of pop culture they do
Speaker 3: right now, they'll just come out and I obviously say
Speaker 3: I'm doing something for the devil, and people said when
Speaker 3: they go, so they feel something coming from from the
Speaker 3: crowd or some ceremony that they're doing. And that is
Speaker 3: another way. And you also see just within actors from Disney,
Speaker 3: people that have been in rock and roll or whatever
Speaker 3: will not rock and roll. But now the uh, the
Speaker 3: child pedophiliate's going on, you know, And that's that was
Speaker 3: part of part of the occulting practices in the tour
Speaker 3: of the sacrifice of children and stuff that opens up
Speaker 3: in the mondern pools because it's trauma to those kids
Speaker 3: that that's going on. So a lot of things that
Speaker 3: are things that in our minds we don't see that
Speaker 3: the Lord sees that these things are having so much
Speaker 3: fun with.
Speaker 1: It's frightening to think about. And like you said, they're
Speaker 1: just out in the open about it. At least back
Speaker 1: in the day, Brother Eric and I talked about that
Speaker 1: last time that it was it was kind of thinly veiled,
Speaker 1: you know, but it was there if you knew what
Speaker 1: to look for in the artwork on the albums and
Speaker 1: the t shirts and and the lyrics.
Speaker 4: But now they do.
Speaker 1: They don't even any have any attempt to hide it
Speaker 1: or avail it or anything. It's just out there, just unabashedly.
Speaker 3: Well admittedly it's because it's because people have been desensitized
Speaker 3: to it. People are desensitized. Think of the not trying
Speaker 3: to veer off on the subject, but I think various
Speaker 3: well known biblical Bible beli even pastors, and even Brother
Speaker 3: Eric I talked about this in Silent sho far just
Speaker 3: with just with the demonic manifestations, with UFOs and stuff.
Speaker 3: No no pastors knocking down the door call saying hey,
Speaker 3: did you hear what's going on? You know, I think
Speaker 3: the Lord's getting ready to return. People are just living
Speaker 3: like normal. They don't care. They're desensitized. That's what the
Speaker 3: enemy wants and it's part of culture. It's been accepted
Speaker 3: now and as the Apostle Paul says, they have fallen asleep.
Speaker 1: And then places like in New Mexico where I used
Speaker 1: to live there they have a Satanic temple there. That's
Speaker 1: just you know. There again it's these are things that
Speaker 1: people used to do in secret, and now they do
Speaker 1: it just in front of everybody without a care in
Speaker 1: the world. Absolutely, I think at points to in times
Speaker 1: if if you look at the the things in the
Speaker 1: Bible we're looking, I mean the headlines so today are
Speaker 1: straight out of the Book of Revelation and other parts
Speaker 1: of the Bible.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, well we were, I think when me
Speaker 3: and when me and Eric brother were convening about this,
Speaker 3: he was talking about and then I'll just I'll let
Speaker 3: you take take the Williams brother. But you're talking about
Speaker 3: that the guy that we're talking about, who was I
Speaker 3: guess the guitar player drummer that the that the Ouigi
Speaker 3: boar said that he was going to die.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, And actually I think it is. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm not a legal expert. My my area is theology.
Speaker 2: When you have a guy that died and a year
Speaker 2: and a half I think it was before that happened.
Speaker 2: They had a OIGI session that he sat on and
Speaker 2: it there was no activity whatsoever, and then right before
Speaker 2: they closed it said Randy will die. You know yeah.
Speaker 1: I think if you look at the whole rock era,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of people, a lot of bands
Speaker 1: that went on to megastardom where one of the early
Speaker 1: members died strangely or tragically, bands like led Zeppelin, of course,
Speaker 1: The Who, Metallica, on and on. You can list a
Speaker 1: lot of bands where it seems like there was a
Speaker 1: sacrifice that had to be made for them to be
Speaker 1: propelled into the megastardom, the world wide stardom. And I
Speaker 1: think it happens too often to be coincidence. I really
Speaker 1: don't believe in coincidence. I believe in synchronicities. And there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: Absolutely take a look at ac DC, bomb Scott and
Speaker 2: admittedly makes a deal with Satan, he dies shortly thereafter.
Speaker 2: They get another singer completely unrelated and absolutely out sell
Speaker 2: everything they did with Bomb Scott. Metallica lost Cliff Burton
Speaker 2: in eighty six. Look at the transition and of the
Speaker 2: band dynamic and the fan the number of fan fans
Speaker 2: between the Master of Puppets album on the one which
Speaker 2: Cliff Burton had passed, and that Black album that came
Speaker 2: out in ninety ninety one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're worldwide and they're still huge that their
Speaker 1: music in that regard is timeless. They still pack stadiums worldwide.
Speaker 2: And other bands like that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The Red Hot Chili Peppers, all those have lost one
Speaker 1: of their early members and then went on to just
Speaker 1: phenomenal things.
Speaker 2: Well, you'll think about the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They
Speaker 2: lose they lose their original guitar and the album that
Speaker 2: follows is titled after Aleister Crowley's Sex, Blood and Magic,
Speaker 2: and that album, even though they had a you know,
Speaker 2: they had a much smaller following before then, that album
Speaker 2: launched them to international superstardom.
Speaker 1: And I believe that was the one that they recorded
Speaker 1: at the old, the Haunted studio there in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 1: Who didn't he mansion I think or something in that area.
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin put them all in that house and they
Speaker 1: talked about there was manifestations there while they were recording.
Speaker 1: They saw things, they heard things, and you've got other
Speaker 1: bands that talk about that. Led Zeppelin talked about that
Speaker 1: Black Sabbath, Ozzie's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, John John Bonham died in Alistair Crowley's home
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Page owned it. Yeah, led Zeppelin became bigger
Speaker 2: than anything after Bonham had passed and they broke up.
Speaker 4: And they're still.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just never been anything like him and
Speaker 1: probably will never be again.
Speaker 2: No, and and and and speaking as an ex you know,
Speaker 2: when I was a teenager and stuff, I was a
Speaker 2: huge Zeppelin fan. Yep, same, every one of their songs,
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Iron Maiden, but every one of their songs.
Speaker 2: Every one of Zeppelin's songs has a very dark, dreary,
Speaker 2: medieval kind of feel to it.
Speaker 4: And and they talked about that.
Speaker 1: Robert Plant talked about when he wrote the lyrics for
Speaker 1: a Stairway to Heaven, he literally said that came from
Speaker 1: somewhere out in the ether, that it just he like,
Speaker 1: he channeled that he was just sitting there writing and
Speaker 1: said he didn't even know where it was coming from.
Speaker 1: And that's probably if there is such a thing as
Speaker 1: a rock anthem, that that's it. You know, everybody knows
Speaker 1: stair Way to have it.
Speaker 2: Yes, and ironically, and of course I never did this
Speaker 2: before as a when I was younger as a Zeppelin fan.
Speaker 2: But you know, after getting saved and stuff, I hear it,
Speaker 2: come on the radio and listen to the words, and
Speaker 2: it is absolutely the most contrary thing to salvation and scripture,
Speaker 2: purchasing and buying your way into heaven.
Speaker 4: There's still time to change the path you're on.
Speaker 2: There you go, that's like, yeah, well, John John fourteen
Speaker 2: six Shoe has said, I am the truth in the
Speaker 2: way in the life. No man can come to the
Speaker 2: Father but through me. Well, change the course, change your course,
Speaker 2: change the path. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you think about it and you you move
Speaker 3: it today and people are people are more open about
Speaker 3: things as well, you know, and you see, you see
Speaker 3: how what happens is when when when when the enemy's
Speaker 3: done with them, he's done with them. I think that uh,
Speaker 3: people like you know, Vince McMahon WW Wrestling just came
Speaker 3: out about stuff about him, and I think those when
Speaker 3: those people are done, they throw them away and they
Speaker 3: get rid of them because they don't need him anymore.
Speaker 3: And it's it's always the same thing time and time again.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You take, for example, we talked about Aaron Carter.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: What the brother of the of the Backstreet Boy who
Speaker 3: was supposedly suicide. But what was interesting was is he
Speaker 3: had mental health illness and he was calling out a
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff, and it was talked about in
Speaker 3: there that somebody put in his I guess like as
Speaker 3: Instagram when he two hours before he died, he somebody
Speaker 3: said I'm gonna kill you or or they're coming to
Speaker 3: get you, and he's taken out. So it's Hollywood, the music, entertainment,
Speaker 3: all stuff is all that is a devil's playground. And
Speaker 3: when they're done with you, they're done with you. And
Speaker 3: that's why we're hoping that as people hear this message,
Speaker 3: they come to know the Lord and that if they're
Speaker 3: involved in this stuff, the Lord can break those curses
Speaker 3: because the Lord's death upon the Cross canceled all those
Speaker 3: things that Satan and his minions think that they have
Speaker 3: control over and they don't.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to go into a brief history of
Speaker 2: this of the occult and bring it up to today,
Speaker 2: if that's.
Speaker 4: All right, Oh, feel free.
Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff, all right, starting in Deuteronomy eighteen and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna look at nine through twelve and then we'll
Speaker 2: discuss it and go into the history. When now our
Speaker 2: when thow ur come into the land which the Lord
Speaker 2: thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do.
Speaker 2: After the abominations of those nations, there shall not be
Speaker 2: a found. There shall not be found among you anyone
Speaker 2: that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through
Speaker 2: the fire, or that uses divination, or an observer of times,
Speaker 2: or an enchanter, or a witch or a charmer, or
Speaker 2: a consult with familiar spirits, or a wizard or a necromancer.
Speaker 2: For all that do these things are an abomination unto
Speaker 2: the Lord. And because of these abominations, the Lord thy
Speaker 2: God doth drive them out before before thee. All right,
Speaker 2: we're talking about Moloch worship, remphan worship, bail worship. Now,
Speaker 2: these were the practices of the Canaanites, of the Heaviites,
Speaker 2: of the Hittites, and all those pagan groups that occupied
Speaker 2: the land of Israel. This was God's final list of
Speaker 2: instructions to the children of Israel not to do any
Speaker 2: of these things, because worship is exclusive to the God
Speaker 2: of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. From these groups Hittites, Canaanites,
Speaker 2: the Sumerians, the ancient Babylonians, even the Egyptians, worshiping of Bail,
Speaker 2: worshiping of Molech, worshiping of a Nubis, of Osiris, of raw.
Speaker 2: First of all, we have to understand that every one
Speaker 2: of these deities are all the same thing, and that
Speaker 2: takes us back to Genesis chapter six with the sons
Speaker 2: of God fell from heaven. They're demonic spirits, and the
Speaker 2: forms you see him in, like Moloch, can either appear
Speaker 2: as a humanoid thing with a cow head or it
Speaker 2: appears as a giant owl, depending on the culture and
Speaker 2: the people. Ultimately, it's a demonic spirit, that's all it is.
Speaker 2: It is a demonic spirit. And these are demonic spirits
Speaker 2: that appear in different forms to different cultures and different peoples. Again,
Speaker 2: it's all the same thing. You're looking at, a demonic spirit,
Speaker 2: and ultimately it's Satan. Satan is the head of all
Speaker 2: of it. He's the guy hiding in the shadow behind
Speaker 2: all of it. Now, as history and time goes on,
Speaker 2: these occultic practices that are outlined in Deuteronomy chapter eighteen,
Speaker 2: they spread to different countries and different nations and such.
Speaker 2: And as it spread to different countries and different nations,
Speaker 2: you have groups of people that picked up on it
Speaker 2: and basically formed secret groups and clubs. And the reason
Speaker 2: why I say secret is because while these occultic practices
Speaker 2: had spread, we have to remember that Judeo Christianity also
Speaker 2: was spreading to the same countries and nations and peoples.
Speaker 2: So they would form secret groups that would practice these
Speaker 2: things in order to avoid persecution from the churches. As
Speaker 2: time and history have gone on, we have also seen
Speaker 2: a consolidation of these occultic groups and practices. And as
Speaker 2: the process of globalization has been happening in the recent decades,
Speaker 2: all these occult practices have kind of formed into a
Speaker 2: single entity with how would you say, a single entity
Speaker 2: with different branches. The occult now and has been since
Speaker 2: the beginning of time. It just took the process of
Speaker 2: time for that to happen. The occult now is the
Speaker 2: quiet throne in the shadows being set up for the Antichrist.
Speaker 2: These practices are still practiced. They may have changed forms
Speaker 2: or altered forms a little bit in their practices, but
Speaker 2: the practices are still the same, and that includes the
Speaker 2: sacrificing of one to excel them to prosperity, to recognition.
Speaker 2: Back in the time of Deuteronomy and among the Canaanites,
Speaker 2: they would sacrifice women, they would sacrifice their children, and
Speaker 2: this would give them prominence, this would give them, supposedly,
Speaker 2: would give them prosperity. So, like I said, the rituals
Speaker 2: may have been altered a little bit, but they're still
Speaker 2: practicing the same things. When you see bands that had
Speaker 2: tried tirelessly for a couple of years, and no matter
Speaker 2: how hard they work and how hard they put their
Speaker 2: material out, it just couldn't get past a certain fan
Speaker 2: base or out of a certain area, and then they
Speaker 2: cave in to the industry and they agree, I believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not there at those meetings, of course,
Speaker 2: never have been, never will be. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of evidence that shows that they agree, Okay, we
Speaker 2: will lose whoever. And next album or two later, they're
Speaker 2: selling out stadiums and arenas and they're still basically doing
Speaker 2: the same thing they've been doing. So how did that change?
Speaker 2: And again, bi.
Speaker 1: Natural element, and they're not to interrupt you, but it
Speaker 1: would almost have to be.
Speaker 2: Exactly. And I believe the occult now that is basically
Speaker 2: the Antichrist prepare that controls everything from entertainment, to media,
Speaker 2: to government. These were the groups that started out as
Speaker 2: the ancient Canaanites, the Babylonians, the Egyptians and such, and
Speaker 2: again spread to different countries, different nations. The practices were
Speaker 2: kept in secret. There were many, many branches and factions,
Speaker 2: and then over the years have been consolidating members and
Speaker 2: powers and now together as a collective, they're controlling everything
Speaker 2: and they are influencing everything. Now, that's everything I've studied,
Speaker 2: as far as scripture, as far as history, as far
Speaker 2: as Alister Crowley's writings, because everything Alster Croley practice in
Speaker 2: every cult group he was a member of seems to
Speaker 2: fit the one big one now and every bit of
Speaker 2: a cult practice that he was into, you could see
Speaker 2: it was the practices again of the ancient one, of
Speaker 2: the ancient times, in the medieval times, all the way
Speaker 2: up to now, as far as the death Randy Rhodes
Speaker 2: Goo goes. You know they were talking about, oh well
Speaker 2: we came up with the idea for the song mister
Speaker 2: Crowley on the Blizzard of Oz album because yeah, we
Speaker 2: had the books sitting on a coffee table in the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's just common reading material everywhere in offices, homes
Speaker 2: and studios right right.
Speaker 1: And I even heard an interview with Ozzie one time
Speaker 1: where somebody asked him about that, and he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I wrote that just because I like the way it
Speaker 1: sounded lyrically, it doesn't have anything to do with Aleister Crowley. Well,
Speaker 1: how many mister Crowley's are there? And you can tell
Speaker 1: with the lyrics exactly who he's singing about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Crowley, what went on in your head? Did
Speaker 2: you talk to the dead? Yeah? And I believe And
Speaker 2: this is going on Randy's brother's testimony in an interview.
Speaker 2: Randy had recently became a staunch Lutheran when he had joined.
Speaker 2: That may explain why he did not party as the
Speaker 2: rest of the band did. It would probably explain a
Speaker 2: couple things. I think he because, according to the band members,
Speaker 2: he sat in on a Ouiji board session, and I
Speaker 2: think he probably did so, probably kind of knowing what
Speaker 2: it was, but not really keen to what it truly is.
Speaker 2: And nothing happens, and then all of a sudden at
Speaker 2: the end, at the end of the session, the board
Speaker 2: spells out, Randy, you are going to die a year
Speaker 2: and a half later. Well, it just so happens, he
Speaker 2: died and no one else. If you take a look
Speaker 2: at the sales as far as concert tickets go, as
Speaker 2: far as merchandise goes, number of albums sold, amount of airplay, Uh,
Speaker 2: that's given as far as radio and and and MTV went.
Speaker 2: From Speaking the Devil to Bark at the Moon is
Speaker 2: like a leap from day and from night in to day.
Speaker 2: I mean the numbers almost tripled and tripled within what
Speaker 2: maybe a year's time. Brother Steve, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you ever if you had these albums in the Uh
Speaker 2: I did back in years ago.
Speaker 1: I was a Sabbath fan, and then when when they
Speaker 1: broke up, I still listened to Sabbath, the marb Rules
Speaker 1: album and those, And then I picked up Ozzy solo work.
Speaker 1: And I never got to see Sabbath with Ozzy, but
Speaker 1: I saw them with Ronnie James Dio and then I
Speaker 1: saw Ozzie uh as a solo act. I never got
Speaker 1: to see Randy Rhodes. But uh, yeah, I admit to that.
Speaker 2: You know, as a kid growing up, I'm I mean
Speaker 2: Ozzy oz Born was the Blizzard of Oz was my world. Well,
Speaker 2: I got to looking at the albums online just to
Speaker 2: see because a lot of times the occult gives itself
Speaker 2: away and what they're going to do, they just do
Speaker 2: it cryptically. But I got to examining the cover of
Speaker 2: Diary of a Madman, and I don't know if you
Speaker 2: remember the album cover. It shows Ozzy kind of bloody
Speaker 2: and psychotic, and there's a little kid in a table
Speaker 2: behind him, and then behind him on the wall there's
Speaker 2: a upside down cross hanging well to the left of
Speaker 2: the inverted cross, as if the inverted cross wasn't it
Speaker 2: wasn't a tell sign enough, But to the left of it,
Speaker 2: there's a parchment hanging on the wall. And on this
Speaker 2: parchment there are two types of writing. The first one
Speaker 2: is a Greek word, and then under it is a
Speaker 2: language called theban. Now, theban was a Latin cryptic cipher
Speaker 2: that witch covens and occultists use in order to get
Speaker 2: their messages back and forth to each other without the
Speaker 2: Church being able to intercept and catch them, basically, and
Speaker 2: it was invented back in the I want to say,
Speaker 2: the fourteen and fifteen hundreds. The Greek word that's on
Speaker 2: the parchment is allah, and Allah is the Greek number
Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty six, And then I got to
Speaker 2: looking at the cover of Speak of the Devil, which
Speaker 2: was the album math Diary of Madman. This was right
Speaker 2: after Randy had passed, and it's an album of all
Speaker 2: the songs Ozzy did with Black Sabbath, except it's him
Speaker 2: doing it with his band and Brad Gillis from Night Ranger,
Speaker 2: I believe, was the guitarist on that album for that tour.
Speaker 2: On the album cover, it shows Ozzy sticking his head
Speaker 2: through like an archway and he's got like some gel,
Speaker 2: blood colored gel dripping out of his mouth and he's
Speaker 2: wearing a pair of fangs while on the archway. Is
Speaker 2: this weird writing? Again and again I looked at it,
Speaker 2: and it's deben. It's the writing. It's the writing of
Speaker 2: the Occult and Witchcraft. So his whole claim and Sharon's claim, Oh,
Speaker 2: we don't have anything to do with the Devil or
Speaker 2: the Occult, that's not true. Yeah, how many lot of
Speaker 2: musicians know about theban.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody who designed that there was commissioned by Ozzie
Speaker 1: and his management in the band and everything. They knew
Speaker 1: what they were doing. That that wasn't a coincidence. There's
Speaker 1: that word. Again, that was done intentionally. That was a
Speaker 1: sign of signal. They were, like you said, signaling their intentions.
Speaker 1: But most people wouldn't have any idea of what it
Speaker 1: was just looking at it.
Speaker 2: No, and you know, not that the average headbanger went
Speaker 2: to college to study archaic Middle medieval language like theban
Speaker 2: So yeah, of course everyone probably just looked at and said, oh,
Speaker 2: that's weird writing. Hey, awesome album cover. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of I believe there's a lot of evidence that
Speaker 2: shows that Randy's death was not an accident. I think
Speaker 2: they forecasted it. I mean, come on, a year and
Speaker 2: a half before. Again, they're sitting around a a Oigi
Speaker 2: board doing a Wuigi board session, which is an occultic practice.
Speaker 2: It says nothing for the whole time until the end,
Speaker 2: and then it's specifically said, Randy is going to die.
Speaker 2: And then what happened a year and a half later.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's what they were waiting on
Speaker 1: That maybe they didn't know which of them was going
Speaker 1: to die, and then because of what was said in
Speaker 1: that session, then they're like, Okay, he's the one we
Speaker 1: have to sacrifice. It was spoken to us from beyond
Speaker 1: is that a possibility, you.
Speaker 2: Think, I think, I think very much it could be
Speaker 2: a possibility. As far as a sacrifice goes. You're offering
Speaker 2: a I believe was a new it was a new Christian.
Speaker 2: I mean, would that be valuable to Satan? Would that
Speaker 2: be valuable to the cult? The occult? I believe it
Speaker 2: would be to them? Yep, you know. And then there's
Speaker 2: all the other little intricate details that I think were
Speaker 2: overlooked in as death. One of the stories, one of
Speaker 2: the cover stories, was the uh, the roadie who just
Speaker 2: happened to be able to snatch a plane because Rody's
Speaker 2: do that all the time, wanted to commit suicide. Well,
Speaker 2: that plane went up twice. The first time it took
Speaker 2: another band member and someone else. No problem. If he
Speaker 2: wanted to commit suicide, why didn't he do it on
Speaker 2: that first flight. No, it happened on the flight with Randy,
Speaker 2: And according to one of the band members, they said
Speaker 2: the plane was even swooping six feet off the ground
Speaker 2: and they saw a struggle between the pilot and Randy.
Speaker 2: I think that's information that really should have been viewed
Speaker 2: by law enforcement. And again, if you want premeditation, well
Speaker 2: go back to that Ouiji board session a year ago. Again,
Speaker 2: like you said, there's no coincidences, and then of course
Speaker 2: you look as far as the occult element of it,
Speaker 2: look at the success. After Randy's death, Randy Road started
Speaker 2: Quiet Riot, did everything to get it beyond a local
Speaker 2: LA club scene and was able to release an album,
Speaker 2: but the album was only released in Japan, and a
Speaker 2: year after Randy Rhads passes away, Quiet Right is number
Speaker 2: one on the billboards with what was a come on Field,
Speaker 2: the Noise and mental mental Health. Night Ranger. Night Ranger
Speaker 2: had a fairly good following up until three and of
Speaker 2: course Night Rangers Brad Gillis was with Ozzie right after
Speaker 2: Randy's death, finishes up that tour and goes back to
Speaker 2: Night Ranger one song Sister Christian All of a sudden
Speaker 2: Night Ranger.
Speaker 4: Superstars, I remember when that was a hit.
Speaker 2: Three times larger than they ever were. You take White Snake.
Speaker 2: White Snake, you know had had a had a fairly
Speaker 2: good following throughout the late seventies and early eighties. Rudy Sarzo,
Speaker 2: who was in Choir Riot, who played Nausy with Randy,
Speaker 2: joins White Snake eighty seven. They come out with the
Speaker 2: song Still of the Night, and look what happened to
Speaker 2: White Snake three times larger than they had ever been
Speaker 2: even taken the pop charts, and it seemed like everyone
Speaker 2: that was connected to Ozzy and and and to Randy, well,
Speaker 2: like Alistair Crowley wrote, they sacrificed him and everyone prospered
Speaker 2: from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all benefited from the sacrifice of Randy Rose.
Speaker 1: And I'd never thought about it that, never studied that
Speaker 1: lineage or lineage there between where Randy had been and
Speaker 1: where all those bands went and everybody that he touched
Speaker 1: mentioned Sarzo. There's there's a video out there of Randy
Speaker 1: playing with Ozzy. I think this crazy Train or something
Speaker 1: that Rudy's on the base. And again quite right, I
Speaker 1: remember when they were big. I saw them live. That
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge albleman. I think that was what
Speaker 1: eighty three or something like that, somewhere around in there.
Speaker 2: It was right after Randy's death, probably a little yet
Speaker 2: less than a year after Randy's death, and.
Speaker 1: They were just propelled into to superstardom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all literally almost overnight. And Quiet Riot had been
Speaker 2: around since I think nineteen seventy six when Randy when
Speaker 2: Randy and his then friend and bassis Kelly Garney started
Speaker 2: the band, and all those years, for whatever reason, they
Speaker 2: couldn't get outside or past the la club scene. Randy dies. Well,
Speaker 2: now they're selling out stadiums worldwide. And again there were
Speaker 2: direct there was direct connections to Randy. Now, of course,
Speaker 2: as far as legality goes, you know, this is you know,
Speaker 2: again it's speculations, speculation, of course, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 1: This is a you know, subject to it is conjecture,
Speaker 1: but fascinating nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again everything seems to tie into the occult.
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the Christian singer by the name
Speaker 3: of Keith Green back in the seventies.
Speaker 2: I know I may have heard the name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just.
Speaker 3: Read an article here and they're talking about the correlation
Speaker 3: between Keith Green and Randy Rose. Keith Green, I think
Speaker 3: in seventy eight or seventy seven, died in a plane crash,
Speaker 3: but he was very he was one that gave his
Speaker 3: life to the Lord. And there's been a belief that
Speaker 3: Keith Green Cole have an influence on Randy Rose coming
Speaker 3: to the Lord. But what was interesting was is they
Speaker 3: both were prominent figures in music, and both excelled and
Speaker 3: took it up like I mean, Keith Green took contemporary
Speaker 3: Christian music, which it's I would you recommend my dog
Speaker 3: listened to it, but what it was, took it where
Speaker 3: it is and where it is. And you guys like
Speaker 3: Stephen Curtis Chapman, you had the guy who wrote Awesome
Speaker 3: God who died. He had influence on the same thing here.
Speaker 3: But what was interesting in Keith Green's Tombstone, and this
Speaker 3: is what Leonard Ravenhill said. He said, are the things
Speaker 3: you worth living? Are the things that you were living
Speaker 3: for the Word of Christ is dying for. And according
Speaker 3: to Keith Green's tombstone, this is going to be with Jesus.
Speaker 3: And basically they were saying that Keith Green was very
Speaker 3: about the world, about himself, but when he came to
Speaker 3: know the Lord's life changed and he died mysteriously and
Speaker 3: it wasn't anything like Captain Randy Rhodes. But it's interesting
Speaker 3: how if you study the Book of Job and how
Speaker 3: when Satan asked how to get permission from God, let
Speaker 3: me deal with your servant. And one of those things
Speaker 3: that Satan did was he inflicted physical harm against Job.
Speaker 3: But he couldn't kill and but it's interesting enough to
Speaker 3: see that these two that prominently did something and influence,
Speaker 3: you know, and that and the rock and roll Randy
Speaker 3: Roads did the world can use to bring people into himself.
Speaker 3: He always does a lot of times. But it's interesting
Speaker 3: how these two were taken out by the enemy and
Speaker 3: were great pristine figures in music history. And like brother said,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of these bands were nothing. And
Speaker 3: then he Randy Roads comes along and they jump on
Speaker 3: his cooptails and they're they're like him. I he's all
Speaker 3: about White Snake. Yeah, you still the night? H what
Speaker 3: is the other one? Here we go again on my own,
Speaker 3: I mean multiple multiple albums. But then you look at
Speaker 3: what happens to them when they're done. They're drug addicts
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they're dead and that they're gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like they have that that burst of energy.
Speaker 1: They're propelled into the stratosphere and then they explode or
Speaker 1: implode and and that's the end of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's all you get. That's that's your shot. And
Speaker 1: then they so many of them have just destroyed their
Speaker 1: their their lives, their livers, theirselves, you know, through drugs
Speaker 1: and alcohol what not after achieving that stardom, and I
Speaker 1: think maybe part of that could be there. They're trying
Speaker 1: to escape from what they know is coming where they
Speaker 1: they've signed a deal, you know, they've signed the contract
Speaker 1: in blood or whatever. They know, this is it, this
Speaker 1: is all I'm going to get and then it's over
Speaker 1: with and it's done, and uh, I'm finished.
Speaker 4: Well, you know you need to think.
Speaker 3: About you talk about that. And and this interesting point.
Speaker 3: There's a video and I've heard somebody really trying to
Speaker 3: explain what they thought the video and this artist was
Speaker 3: crying out. They cry out when they're when they get
Speaker 3: into that fame and they start they start building up
Speaker 3: what they want and they want to get out of it.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of like it's kind of like what
Speaker 3: the Lord talked about. When when they kick that demon out,
Speaker 3: or they think they kick it out, seven more come
Speaker 3: and it's like they they're thinking, if I can just
Speaker 3: get out of this, and it's like all of a
Speaker 3: sudden until they come to know the Lord in submits
Speaker 3: of the Lord his lordship and accept him his lord
Speaker 3: and savior in their life. They try to do it
Speaker 3: in their own when they do it, they get drugg
Speaker 3: right back into it, and it's like these things tangle
Speaker 3: themselves on them and won't let them go. And that's
Speaker 3: what happens with a lot of these artists, Like they
Speaker 3: want to get out of it. But when they come
Speaker 3: out of it and they come to know the Lord
Speaker 3: and their life changes, they either are made fun of,
Speaker 3: their credibility is destroyed, they're kicked off, you never hear
Speaker 3: from again, or they die.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So a lot of them, a lot of times maybe
Speaker 3: maybe trying to get out of it until they come
Speaker 3: to know the Lord, that they'll they'll never be able
Speaker 3: to be set free from that pack they think they
Speaker 3: have with the enemy.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. There is deliverance from it. Now
Speaker 2: they come out of it, and something still may happen,
Speaker 2: but their soul can be delivered from that. I want
Speaker 2: to take a look at Acts sixteen. Let me get
Speaker 2: to it here, Acts sixteen and verses sixteen through eighteen.
Speaker 2: And it came to pass as we went to prayer,
Speaker 2: a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us,
Speaker 2: which brought her masters much gained by Sue's saying the
Speaker 2: same followed Paul and us and cried saying, these men
Speaker 2: are the servants of the Most High God, which show
Speaker 2: unto us the way of salvation. And this did she
Speaker 2: many days. But Paul, being grief, turned and said to
Speaker 2: the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: to come out of her. And he came out of
Speaker 2: and came out the same hour. So regardless of the contract,
Speaker 2: even if the contract is in blood or whatever, by
Speaker 2: the name of the Lord and the Messiah and Savior,
Speaker 2: any contract can be broken. And you know again, can
Speaker 2: something still physically happen, Yes, But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, Satan and his workers in the occult don't
Speaker 2: get that person even in death.
Speaker 1: And I remember reading an interview know this is going
Speaker 1: a lot further back, but an interview with little Richard
Speaker 1: Richard Pennaman, who was somewhat of a wild man, a
Speaker 1: rock and roll legend at the time. He talked about
Speaker 1: that when he was in the thick of things that
Speaker 1: he was, you know, participating in blood drinking rituals and
Speaker 1: things like that, averrate sexual behaviors things. He was just.
Speaker 4: Totally immersed in this.
Speaker 1: But then when he got saved and accepted Christ, he
Speaker 1: was taken out of all that and lost the desire
Speaker 1: for all the drugs and the promiscuity and things. So
Speaker 1: there's an example right there. And I think he's absolutely mistaken.
Speaker 1: If he's still alive, I'm not sure if he's still
Speaker 1: around or not. But little Richard, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, he he died I think a few
Speaker 3: years ago. But I'm telling you that man he got
Speaker 3: up there and he was preaching and and and it
Speaker 3: wasn't there was a change because he wasn't. He wasn't
Speaker 3: he was different. I mean, he was boldly preaching the
Speaker 3: gospel and he was telling people and he and even
Speaker 3: before he died, he was making his goal to go
Speaker 3: tell those people come to know the Lord and repent.
Speaker 3: And he when he preached it was it was spirit
Speaker 3: its spirit filled. And yeah, he talked about where he
Speaker 3: said those things would come to him night and manifest
Speaker 3: and would torture him and attack him. But he said
Speaker 3: to day that he he became a believer except of
Speaker 3: the Lord, everything changed like and and and he said
Speaker 3: that when he did, he was his fame went away,
Speaker 3: like he lost everything. But he said, I would rather
Speaker 3: lose everything than to lose my soul or to lose
Speaker 3: the lord.
Speaker 2: Well, look look at the story of Robert Johnson, and
Speaker 2: this was basically when Satan entered into the music industry.
Speaker 2: You know, the old Mississippi blues player. According to people
Speaker 2: at knew him, said he did nothing except just making noise,
Speaker 2: twangy noise on his guitar at the little place he
Speaker 2: used to play at, and people complained, they didn't come
Speaker 2: to see him, they complained, And he disappears for two
Speaker 2: weeks and goes to the crossroads in Mississippi, which is
Speaker 2: still there, and makes a pack with Satan. He comes
Speaker 2: back two weeks later, all of a sudden, he's an
Speaker 2: experienced guitar player. And a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 2: that's just legend, that just legend. I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, Robert Johnson, even toward the end of his life,
Speaker 2: talked about it and even wrote songs about it. What
Speaker 2: was that one song, hell Hound on My Trail and
Speaker 2: he talks about how the demons are coming after him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably again not a coincidence, but Led Zeppelin
Speaker 1: covered some of Robert Johnson's teens.
Speaker 2: Sure did they Sure did. There's a There are certain
Speaker 2: Zeppelin songs when you're listening to Jimmy Page play and
Speaker 2: it's almost like listening to Robert Johnson. There was a
Speaker 2: big Robert Johnson influence there, definitely, and especially in the
Speaker 2: more bluesy songs Zeppelin had.
Speaker 1: And again I feel like they were and homage, if
Speaker 1: you will, to people that that came before them, that
Speaker 1: they were following in their path, Aleister Crowley, Robert Johnson,
Speaker 1: and and and on and on.
Speaker 2: Do you do you remember and I think we may
Speaker 2: have touched on it last uh, last session. Do you
Speaker 2: remember the story of John Todd?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had some of his I had some of
Speaker 1: those tapes. I heard those on like a Wednesday nights
Speaker 1: the church that I was going to at the time
Speaker 1: I was a teenager. They did a series and played
Speaker 1: those I think several maybe a dozen Wednesday nights or so,
Speaker 1: and it was Yeah, the guy did an expose the
Speaker 1: whole industry, and then he was discredited and defamed and
Speaker 1: and died.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I don't think he.
Speaker 2: Died in prison.
Speaker 1: Did he die in prison of a cancer. But I've
Speaker 1: heard from you know, the conspiracy theories and stuff that
Speaker 1: that was injected him, that that was given to him
Speaker 1: just to get rid of him and shut him up
Speaker 1: because he was revealing a lot. That was the first
Speaker 1: person or talk about a lot of this occultism in
Speaker 1: the industry, and he knew a lot of those big
Speaker 1: names from that era in the sixties and seventies. And
Speaker 1: if even a tenth of what the man said is true,
Speaker 1: it's chilling, It chills the blood.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's very it's very interesting because he not
Speaker 2: only warned against the secular and specifically heavy metal, but
Speaker 2: he warned against Christian music that it was in it also,
Speaker 2: and so far almost everything he said concerning the occult
Speaker 2: and the music industry. Look at it now, almost everything
Speaker 2: he said was true. Now they don't hide it. They
Speaker 2: don't even hide it. You look at award shows, you
Speaker 2: look at like the the halftime shows for super Bowl
Speaker 2: and other big sporting events. Oh my god, they're not
Speaker 2: even hiding it anymore. Satan is right out in the open,
Speaker 2: and in fact, they make it as evident as possible.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I agree, from from the costuming to the symbolism,
Speaker 1: the hand signs they do, the pyramid sign, the eye
Speaker 1: and the pyramid, some of that stuff. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: not even thinly veiled. It's right.
Speaker 2: The sexual perversion on stage.
Speaker 3: Now, well, you're having you're having a lot of Christian
Speaker 3: artists coming out and supporting things against scripture. You recently
Speaker 3: had at the Double Wards you had so called Christian
Speaker 3: artists supporting transgenderism and wearing dresses and all sorts of stuff,
Speaker 3: and nobody said anything. It was okay.
Speaker 2: You Well, like you said, they desensitized us over the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they And it's crept in and people and I've
Speaker 3: been in a service or joy and I have seen
Speaker 3: this and they brought in a somebody brought in one
Speaker 3: of those songs and it was about what you've done
Speaker 3: for me, about eye excelling, and it was so demonic
Speaker 3: that it destroyed the surface. And you have to be
Speaker 3: careful with what you're hearing, with what you're listening to,
Speaker 3: because those same spirits that like Alos for calling them
Speaker 3: had it's blamely evil. We know that it says that,
Speaker 3: but it creeps in. It creeps inside churches, it creeps
Speaker 3: inside of music, and when it does, it creates the
Speaker 3: spirit of Jezebel all sorts of things. And so if
Speaker 3: you are not filled with the Lord, if you're not
Speaker 3: doing is I want to go to the scriptures and
Speaker 3: read this if I can find it. Comer's verse, First
Speaker 3: John chapter four tells us First John Chapter four, starting
Speaker 3: in verse one to six, love, do not believe every
Speaker 3: spirit of testing the spirits to see whether they are
Speaker 3: from God from many false prophets have gone out into
Speaker 3: the world. By this you know the spirit of God.
Speaker 3: Every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ that has come in
Speaker 3: the flesh is from God God. And every spirit that
Speaker 3: does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is
Speaker 3: the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming
Speaker 3: and now is in the world. Already, little children, you
Speaker 3: are from God and have overcome them, for He who
Speaker 3: is in you is greater than he is in the world.
Speaker 3: They're from the world. Therefore they speak from the world,
Speaker 3: and the world listens to them. We are from God.
Speaker 3: Who Ever knows God listens to us. Whoever knows it
Speaker 3: from God does not listen, does not listen to us.
Speaker 3: By this we know the spirit of truth and the
Speaker 3: spirit of error. So we're called to test the spirits,
Speaker 3: and that word testing involves through the lens of scripture,
Speaker 3: through the power of the Holy Spirit. To listen to
Speaker 3: assess the word, does it go with the Word of
Speaker 3: God and does it not. And it says that talks
Speaker 3: about these spirits, the battling one is the spirit of Antichrist,
Speaker 3: small that was going on in the world. But then
Speaker 3: it talks about two spirits, one that is greater than you,
Speaker 3: the one it's more superior than the one that's in
Speaker 3: the world, which is the spirit of Antichrist. And he's
Speaker 3: telling us that we are from God and they're not.
Speaker 3: And those who are not of God are going to
Speaker 3: hear from the one who is in charge of this world.
Speaker 3: So it's imperative that we test the spirits and know
Speaker 3: what they are so that we're not called off guard
Speaker 3: by listening to music or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, and here's something else interesting. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this has anything to do with anything, but the same
Speaker 2: year that John Todd got saved and began to do
Speaker 2: his campaign at churches to talk about a cult in
Speaker 2: the music was nineteen seventy four. It was nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: four that Ozzie's wife's father took over and became the
Speaker 2: head of Jet Records. So again, I don't know if
Speaker 2: that has anything to do with anything, but it's it's
Speaker 2: just interesting that that that it all happened the same year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't think there are coincidences and this it
Speaker 1: may be kind of far fed, you know, to connect
Speaker 1: the dots, but I believe they're there to connect in
Speaker 1: this regard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 4: H Now, what what in your opinion that's changed?
Speaker 1: You said, you know, we've been desensitized to these things
Speaker 1: and stuff. But is that where it all began? Was
Speaker 1: it part of a plan? There was a Paul Harvey
Speaker 1: thing that I listened to not too long ago. It
Speaker 1: was from the early sixties, and it was called if
Speaker 1: I was the Devil?
Speaker 2: If I were the devil?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that? And it's amazing just the
Speaker 1: bit of prop that's in there because everything he mentioned,
Speaker 1: that's the way things are now, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: fifty something years ago that he spoke those words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Paul Harvey saw it with
Speaker 2: the hippie movement. Well in order, I mean the overall
Speaker 2: big pit, what's the what's the end game here? And
Speaker 2: the endgame is Revelation chapter thirteen. The Antichrist assuming authority
Speaker 2: over the entire globe, over the entire globe's population. And
Speaker 2: you know, of course he can't just show up and
Speaker 2: go hey, I'm here, everyone follow me. That's not going
Speaker 2: to work. So there has to be a process to it,
Speaker 2: a probably a very lengthy process where each generation that's
Speaker 2: closer to the time of the Antichrist is going to
Speaker 2: be be more willing and more accepting than the previous one.
Speaker 2: And I think that process has been done.
Speaker 1: Uh just come down over time to where what used
Speaker 1: to bother you it doesn't seem as bad and now
Speaker 1: you don't even care, so it's.
Speaker 2: Just again, yeah, boiling a frog exactly. You know, again,
Speaker 2: the Antichrist can't just show up and say here I
Speaker 2: am and everyone's going to go oh yeay, okay. No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work like that. So people have to be
Speaker 2: worn down. They have to have their brains trained and
Speaker 2: changed to where stuff people have of hard at one
Speaker 2: time now look at and go oh yeah, okay cool.
Speaker 2: And that was the process. And I think, uh.
Speaker 1: The points to the word programming, I mean the television programming,
Speaker 1: radio programming, radio.
Speaker 2: Stations, programming, propaganda programmer exactly.
Speaker 1: And then you get into that, and we talked about
Speaker 1: led Zeppelin and we touched on this last time, the
Speaker 1: led Zeppelin curse, all the death and misfortune that's following.
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't just John Bonham, h Robert Plant
Speaker 1: lost the Sun to some strange stomach ailment. They had
Speaker 1: a vehicle crash in Whales that I think crippled in
Speaker 1: for a short time. There's just there's all kinds of
Speaker 1: things you can just you can see where they're they're
Speaker 1: paying for the wealth and the excess and all these
Speaker 1: things that it's taking a human toll throughout all this.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, I like the thing with Randy Rhodes,
Speaker 1: and I think the excuse was that the guy shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been flying the plane and he was the second
Speaker 1: time trip up. He was going to like buzz the
Speaker 1: tour bus and scare him or something like that, and
Speaker 1: that's when he ended up crashing. But again that's just
Speaker 1: the cover story and dead men tell no tales, so
Speaker 1: who knows what the real impetus was behind that, And
Speaker 1: in this case, I think it had to do with
Speaker 1: Randy being the chosen one, the sacrifice, if you will.
Speaker 1: And again, if you look at all the people that
Speaker 1: he had that he had touched, that he had been
Speaker 1: in contact with, and the degree of success they had
Speaker 1: after his death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. The circumstances of
Speaker 2: a roadie getting a hold of a beachcraft plane makes
Speaker 2: no sense. The fact that those the tour buses were
Speaker 2: there absolutely makes no sense. This was in May in Florida,
Speaker 2: and the tour bus was there, according to the claims
Speaker 2: to have the AC units repaired. Okay, well, I can
Speaker 2: understand that, however, you had Why in the world would
Speaker 2: you stay in big metal buses in Florida in the
Speaker 2: month of May. Weren't Why wasn't everyone put up at
Speaker 2: the hotel and the buses left at the place to
Speaker 2: be repaired. That didn't make any sense. Again, this roady,
Speaker 2: you know, this roady getting a hold of that nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty five beachcraft plane makes absolutely no sense. And by
Speaker 2: the way, they said, you know, he had just recently
Speaker 2: got his license or whatever. I don't think you could
Speaker 2: fly around doing tricks after just shortly recently getting your license.
Speaker 2: That would take a lot more time in training to
Speaker 2: be able to do.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: I read a book one time about the stunt pilots
Speaker 1: back in the day of the biplanes and the old
Speaker 1: silent movies. And stuff, and they talked about how much
Speaker 1: more difficult it was to pretend like you did know
Speaker 1: how to fly plane and do those tricks and dives
Speaker 1: and things that look like they were going to crash.
Speaker 4: And they'd pull out.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, somebody that had just got their hours in
Speaker 1: and got their license wouldn't normally be doing things like that,
Speaker 1: be doing stunts and trying to buzz the tour bus.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the one story about it was observed just
Speaker 1: a few feet off the ground.
Speaker 2: Things.
Speaker 4: That's just insanity.
Speaker 2: It is, it is. And like I said, just I'm
Speaker 2: I'm shocked. That's so much of that was just dismissed
Speaker 2: and not looked at. And and I think the saddest
Speaker 2: part is that. And and if you ever watch interviews
Speaker 2: with Randy, he absolutely did not have the star attitude.
Speaker 2: He was very soft spoken. He was also very he
Speaker 2: was very humble, and he was very friendly. Just a
Speaker 2: just a good, a good individual who was talented beyond
Speaker 2: belief as far as guitaring went. Died and this has
Speaker 2: been over forty years of injustice. The guilty got away
Speaker 2: with it clean and and and that's just I think that,
Speaker 2: I mean, besides being absolutely incredibly wrong. It's just sad.
Speaker 2: And Randy's mother passed away a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: with no sense of this justice being rendered and solved
Speaker 2: and that and then to me again, that's just very sad.
Speaker 1: I think you're more familiar with the accident than I am.
Speaker 1: But was there an inquest? Was there an investigation or
Speaker 1: did they just take what was said and say, okay,
Speaker 1: it was just an accident. He was took the plane up,
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was doing, goving off and and
Speaker 1: killed somebody. What is that as far as it went,
Speaker 1: as far as law enforcement looking into it, or do you.
Speaker 2: Know, as as far as I know, it was an
Speaker 2: open and shut case. I could be wrong, but it
Speaker 2: seems like it was just an open and shut case.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, guy, guy was fooling around, crashed, sad death,
Speaker 2: too bad. What I do find curious is the first
Speaker 2: phone call wasn't to first responders. The first phone call
Speaker 2: that was made was from Ozzie's wife, and she called
Speaker 2: her dad, the head of jet records, to let them know.
Speaker 1: What conjecture here. But the deed's been done, the fixes
Speaker 1: in the sacrifice has been made.
Speaker 4: Off will go.
Speaker 1: Again. That's gould very opinion. On if possible thing there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the truth, but I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's not either.
Speaker 2: It's just could could very well be. Brother, it could
Speaker 2: very well be from what I understood. Uh, you know
Speaker 2: the research that I did, it took NTSB over two
Speaker 2: hours to get out there, which that doesn't make a
Speaker 2: lot of sense either.
Speaker 1: That would give everybody time to get their story straight,
Speaker 1: remove or destroy any evidence or anything like that. Now,
Speaker 1: I think there was allusion to to drugs being involved,
Speaker 1: which that wouldn't surprise me either.
Speaker 4: I mean, as a rock band in.
Speaker 1: That era, cocaine was everywhere. I never was a participant
Speaker 1: in anything like that, but it was all around on
Speaker 1: stage and off during that time. It was just a thing.
Speaker 2: But that in that part, one of the stories given
Speaker 2: is that all Randy wanted to go up and take
Speaker 2: and take some aerial photos. Well, it was also a
Speaker 2: known fact that Randy hated, absolutely hated to fly unless
Speaker 2: it was absolutely you know, for touring or other reason,
Speaker 2: unless it was absolutely necessary. According to people that were
Speaker 2: closer to him, said he hated flying. So why would
Speaker 2: someone who hated who hates flying, voluntarily go up when
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to when it doesn't have to be done,
Speaker 2: and especially knowing.
Speaker 4: The license in an unfamiliar barred plane, makes no.
Speaker 2: Sense not to mention, not to mention he is now
Speaker 2: a success. Was he really willing to risk his success?
Speaker 2: Because he would also know that as soon as that
Speaker 2: plane landed, what are the chances of police or security
Speaker 2: being there waiting to arrest whoever took up that plane
Speaker 2: because the plane was stolen and he knew it, So
Speaker 2: why would he risk that? See again, there's so many
Speaker 2: little things that it doesn't make sense to the story
Speaker 2: that's being given.
Speaker 1: And the fact that, like you said, that his mother,
Speaker 1: who was very very close from what I understand, she
Speaker 1: never felt that justice was serve as far as I know,
Speaker 1: there were no charges or anything supposed perpeture as as
Speaker 1: far as I know, it killed everybody in the crash.
Speaker 1: So there you go to blame it on I don't
Speaker 1: know it just there's a book in there somewhere, if
Speaker 1: somebody hasn't already written one about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and and very and very sadly, uh you know,
Speaker 2: not just Randy uh dying unfortunately, but uh, the the
Speaker 2: band's hairdresser, Rachel Youngblood, who didn't who certainly didn't do
Speaker 2: anything to anyone, also died innocently, which is very sad
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: Just the whole thing is.
Speaker 1: Very curious that it's I said, it smacks of a conspiracy.
Speaker 4: I cover up something.
Speaker 1: There's too many loose ends, too many things that up
Speaker 1: and read herrings whatever, And again the people left to
Speaker 1: tell the story. Their version is the only version of
Speaker 1: it that there is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the only version that anyone's really listening
Speaker 2: to as well. And to show you how many content,
Speaker 2: how every everyone's account is contradictory. Even the time Ozzie
Speaker 2: gives they said it happened is an hour off and
Speaker 2: he was there.
Speaker 3: Well, what what's interesting is I guess I don't know
Speaker 3: much about this, just what I've learned. He goes to
Speaker 3: show you that Satan was going to protect his people,
Speaker 3: the enemy is going to protect his people, and you know,
Speaker 3: and he has to. He's got to deceive these people
Speaker 3: because oh, you made a contract with me, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I've gotta, i gotta keep using you because in
Speaker 3: the end, I'm going to get your soul. And they're
Speaker 3: always protected. Even when you know you look at your
Speaker 3: mind of psalms, when David was wondering, why do the
Speaker 3: evil appear to be successful, Well, because the enemy is going,
Speaker 3: because that's the desire that God has turned them over.
Speaker 3: You look in Book of Romans. They've been handed over
Speaker 3: to those desires. And these people have exchanged the truth
Speaker 3: of the Lord for a lie. They won't popularity in
Speaker 3: rock and roll. So what happened was and as a
Speaker 3: person had to die. So therefore Satan's going to protect them.
Speaker 3: And a lot of times justice here on the surf
Speaker 3: will never happened. But every niche of and every time
Speaker 3: will confess that you show his Lord, they will stand
Speaker 3: before God and give an account.
Speaker 2: Yep. Well, and the other thing I think should be
Speaker 2: considered actually to anyone who is involved in this world
Speaker 2: ultimate end game, for it is one thing. And I
Speaker 2: want to go to Revelation and look at that revelation
Speaker 2: Chapter twenty one, Revelation twenty one in verse in verse eight.
Speaker 2: But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murders
Speaker 2: and horrormongers, and sorcerers and idolators and all liars shall
Speaker 2: have their part in the lake which burneth with fire
Speaker 2: and brimstone, which is the second death. The only inevitable
Speaker 2: conclusion to a pact with Satan or involvement with the
Speaker 2: occult is what I just read. That is the end
Speaker 2: of it, and that time will come. It has one end,
Speaker 2: and that end is hell forever, time unending.
Speaker 1: Indeed, And I'm just I was looking up some facts
Speaker 1: here about that and the whole crash and everything. Again,
Speaker 1: none of this makes sense. That the timelines are often
Speaker 1: eye witness testimony, if they were eye witnesses, is off,
Speaker 1: and that's the trouble, and that in weren't even people
Speaker 1: that say they were there and saw things. And eye
Speaker 1: witness testimony is usually flawed. And when I was in
Speaker 1: pre law, we had a professor that approved that. One
Speaker 1: time we were sitting in a lecture hall, a guy
Speaker 1: runs into one of the side doors, snatches another student's
Speaker 1: purse off her desk, and runs out the other door.
Speaker 1: And he's like, now, stop, nobody move, let's talk about
Speaker 1: how we're going to describe this to the campus police.
Speaker 1: And people were given the description of the guy, what
Speaker 1: he looked like, what did and then the professor would
Speaker 1: interject things, well, what color scarf did he have around
Speaker 1: his neck? Oh, this person says it's red, it was blue.
Speaker 1: It turns out in the end he wasn't even wearing
Speaker 1: a scarf. You could put things in people's mind that
Speaker 1: they suddenly remembered because it was all I put on.
Speaker 1: He brought the guy back in and he said, now,
Speaker 1: this is what it was. It was a guy wearing
Speaker 1: like I can't remember the type of boots that were popular,
Speaker 1: ding Go boots and a pair of Dingo boots, blue jeans,
Speaker 1: a black T shirt and a Levi's jacket. There was
Speaker 1: no scarf, no sunglasses, all these things that people remembered. So,
Speaker 1: even in the best of cases, eye witness testimony is broad,
Speaker 1: but in this case, if they even witnessed it. Again,
Speaker 1: I think there's more to this story. I really really do.
Speaker 2: I'm right with you. I'm right with you. I believe
Speaker 2: there's way more to it than that. Then what's uh?
Speaker 2: What was what was being told? Absolutely? And and the
Speaker 2: other The other problem is, and as you go, as
Speaker 2: you go along in time, the further you get for
Speaker 2: the event, the game of telephone ends up becoming prevalent.
Speaker 2: Remember the game telephone Yeah.
Speaker 4: Where one person starts it out, whispers.
Speaker 1: It to the next person, and it goes on and
Speaker 1: on and then but at the end the last person.
Speaker 2: By the time it gets back to the original person, it's.
Speaker 1: Totally changed, totally a different story, and exactly like some
Speaker 1: of the urban legends and things, and that that's the
Speaker 1: way those are, and things that I heard growing up
Speaker 1: as the gospel truth. They happened, you know, it just
Speaker 1: happened right up the road a friend of a friend.
Speaker 4: And I was blown.
Speaker 1: Away when I read a book John Harold Runban taking
Speaker 1: part a lot of those urban legends and pointing out
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I heard that as a kid.
Speaker 1: It happened where I live, But everybody heard that as
Speaker 1: a kid, and it happened where they live, and maybe
Speaker 1: it didn't even happen at all. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah again I would. I would say there there's
Speaker 2: absolutely an a cult tie to it that that I
Speaker 2: see as far as evidence goes. And also just I
Speaker 2: guess from a legal standpoint, I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that's that was just either overlooked or blatantly
Speaker 2: not looked at, because it it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: at all that he was even on the plane to
Speaker 2: begin with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently the plane was a Beachcraft thirty five Bonanza.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, illegal flight.
Speaker 1: Looking at the the I guess this is one of
Speaker 1: the databases about the crash. An unknown illegal flight, three fatalities.
Speaker 1: Aircraft is written off beyond repair. The pilot, who was
Speaker 1: a rock group driver, took an aircraft from the hangar
Speaker 1: without permission to joy ride members of the group. During
Speaker 1: the second flight, the aircraft wing hit the bus during
Speaker 1: one of several low passes over the area. The aircraft
Speaker 1: then hit a tree in a residence. A postcrash fire occurred.
Speaker 1: The cause is listed here in their investigation as a
Speaker 1: judgment poor pilot in command buzzing performed. Pilot in command misjudged.
Speaker 1: They crashed into house while buzzing Ozzy Osbourne's tour bus.
Speaker 1: Three members of the Ozsie band, Randy William, Randy Rhoades
Speaker 1: who was twenty five, Rachel Youngblood, the stylist, and Andrew Acock,
Speaker 1: the tour bus driver who was pouting the plane were killed.
Speaker 1: And this is from in tsb Oars.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the tour bus driver stole a plane and killed
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 4: So what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Does it?
Speaker 2: Just the whole the whole thing does absolutely not make
Speaker 2: a bit of sense. I mean, one, I think planes
Speaker 2: would be locked up and locked away, and uh would.
Speaker 1: Leave the keys in the ignition if you thought somebody
Speaker 1: could get to it.
Speaker 2: And exactly I would think. I would think keys would
Speaker 2: be locked up in a security office and that the owner,
Speaker 2: the owner of the plane would probably have to prove
Speaker 2: and show ID and stuff to even get access to
Speaker 2: the key. So again, I I just I I have
Speaker 2: a hard time buying the whole story with Acock getting
Speaker 2: a hold of the keys in the plane and then
Speaker 2: taking it does not make a lick of sense.
Speaker 3: Is it possible that could have been drug or something?
Speaker 2: No? Uh, As a matter of fact, it was noted
Speaker 2: by every one of the band members and including family members.
Speaker 2: He did not. He did not party or get drunk
Speaker 2: or do drugs.
Speaker 3: That that's not That's not what I'm asking. What I'm
Speaker 3: asking is was it possible that he was drugged? Though
Speaker 3: not him?
Speaker 2: Oh said, Okay, I see what you're saying. According to
Speaker 2: I think it was Bob Daisley from the band when
Speaker 2: the when the plane was kind of strife the ground,
Speaker 2: you know where it was six feet above the ground.
Speaker 2: According to him, he saw Randy fighting with someone with
Speaker 2: the pilot possibly, so based on that, I would say
Speaker 2: it wouldn't seem like he was drugged up.
Speaker 3: Was he was he taken up? Do you think he
Speaker 3: was lured to go into that or was he taken
Speaker 3: up by force?
Speaker 2: Possibly? If I if I was to put together the picture,
Speaker 2: and again that this is all speculate, this is all
Speaker 2: speculation and just my opinion. But if I was to
Speaker 2: put together the picture and the occult thing is true,
Speaker 2: I would say information, information was gotten about Acock that
Speaker 2: was terribly life altering, damaging. So they were able to
Speaker 2: force him and the other two possibly by force, put
Speaker 2: on the plane and then all three. It was the
Speaker 2: perfect way to get away with to get all three
Speaker 2: out of the picture. And as brother Steve pointed out,
Speaker 2: dead Man Tell No Tales. So I think it would
Speaker 2: have been more of a scenario like that. So basically,
Speaker 2: because again again it doesn't make sense that they were
Speaker 2: even camping there because May in Florida is fairly warm,
Speaker 2: and in a metal and glass tour bus, it's going
Speaker 2: to be twice as hot. Why wouldn't they have put
Speaker 2: everyone up in a hotel?
Speaker 3: Well, like what those three sounds like that was the sacrifice,
Speaker 3: like we're gonna get you a fit, and we're doing
Speaker 3: this for whatever, and that was the sacrifice. Because it's
Speaker 3: very similar to what a lot of terrorists will do
Speaker 3: when they get on the plane or they're conducting jihad
Speaker 3: or whatever. We're going to kill ourselves for the sacrifice
Speaker 3: of the calls and be martyrs or whatever. That's what
Speaker 3: it sounds like to me, like he was that was
Speaker 3: the sacrifice, and after that that opened up for everyone
Speaker 3: to jump on the fame or get to sell them
Speaker 3: popular and whatever.
Speaker 1: And then that kind of puts me in mind of
Speaker 1: some of those horror movies like The Omen, you know,
Speaker 1: where they knew what they were doing, but it was
Speaker 1: the sacrifice. They had to do this because you know,
Speaker 1: it was for the greater good of their cause and
Speaker 1: things that they would willingly, you know, throw themselves off
Speaker 1: a roof or hang themselves or whatever, but Randy may
Speaker 1: have not been so willing. And I was just looking
Speaker 1: around here on a message board on the internet about this,
Speaker 1: So this is pure conjecture as far as I know.
Speaker 1: But supposedly after the crash, Rudy Sarzo found Ozzy in
Speaker 1: a church crying uncontrollably, and that Sharon knew that the
Speaker 1: pilot had killed someone else in a crash, but said
Speaker 1: or did nothing to warn anyone, and Randy terrified of flying,
Speaker 1: but flew anyway and was not known to use drugs
Speaker 1: at all. However, now this is alleged, just as somebody's
Speaker 1: opinion that the pilot was said to have been up
Speaker 1: all night doing drugs and drinking the night before.
Speaker 2: So well, thank you about this again, it does.
Speaker 1: And this person further states that I'm quite familiar with
Speaker 1: the lad of the Bonanza. If they were flying that
Speaker 1: close to the ground, anyone watching would have had an
Speaker 1: unencumbered view inside the cockpit. So as far as maybe
Speaker 1: Randy came to if he'd been drugs, because he was
Speaker 1: not a drug user, so maybe they didn't give him
Speaker 1: enough and he came out of it before it taken place,
Speaker 1: and maybe he wasn't such a willing participant. And there's
Speaker 1: some conjecture here that maybe Randy tried to take control
Speaker 1: of the plane when he saw what the guy was doing,
Speaker 1: which that you know, an emotional reaction like that would
Speaker 1: be common, but that would you know, could have just
Speaker 1: made it happen sooner.
Speaker 2: You know, you you think about or they could have
Speaker 2: been sorry no, go ahead, go ahead. I was just
Speaker 2: going to say, or or they could have they could
Speaker 2: have been forced by gunpoint.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: This is this is interesting because there's a correlation to
Speaker 3: an event that happened probably thirty or forty years before
Speaker 3: this happened. And I don't know if there's any correlation
Speaker 3: or anything like this, but what happened in nineteen fifty
Speaker 3: nine was was the day Rock and roll died. Those
Speaker 3: three that died in the plane crash, Buddy Holly, Big
Speaker 3: Bopper and uh Richie val Valen you know whatever his
Speaker 3: name was, they died, Yeah, yeah. But what's interesting though,
Speaker 3: when they died those three were gone, a lot of
Speaker 3: people jumped off their coattails and got popular. Granted that
Speaker 3: was more probably more talked about more than this, but
Speaker 3: there was a lot of theories about this. Somebody took
Speaker 3: a gun, took you out or whatever. Whalon Jennings was
Speaker 3: in uh Buddy Holly's band and there was a coin
Speaker 3: toss between the two and he made the claim he said,
Speaker 3: you know something about somebody dying and they die, you know,
Speaker 3: and you granted, I don't know if there was.
Speaker 1: Supposedly, Whalen said when he lost the coin toss, because
Speaker 1: the heat was out in the bus. They were in
Speaker 1: like the Midwest, somewhere in the middle of winter. They
Speaker 1: were freezing it out. They were getting sick, and that's
Speaker 1: why they plane. And after the coin toss, Highy equipped
Speaker 1: something like, well, I hope you're freezing that bus, and
Speaker 1: Wayale and said, yeah, well I hope you're playing crashes
Speaker 1: and there you go. And he said he that haunted
Speaker 1: him for years, that those were the last words he
Speaker 1: ever said to Buddy Holly. It happened, yep.
Speaker 3: And and now was there anything behind it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: It's interesting how after those three died, how various unknown
Speaker 3: people popped out of nowhere, people just who had no
Speaker 3: talent started getting popular moving forward and music and there
Speaker 3: was a lot of people, yes, a lot of artists
Speaker 3: said if they had not been taken out or had
Speaker 3: not moved on a lot of various forms of rock
Speaker 3: and roll, things would have not picked up. So I
Speaker 3: think there is something. There is a correlation here with
Speaker 3: Aleister Crowley, with Satan with music, because like you know,
Speaker 3: my brother talked about in part one and he referred
Speaker 3: to Ezekiel King of Tire talking about how Satan was
Speaker 3: this beautiful musician and there is something where there's a
Speaker 3: sacrifice made somehow, and when it's made, these things have
Speaker 3: the authority to do what they do, and those people
Speaker 3: that are loyal disciples or whatever who think they're loyal
Speaker 3: disciples get the fame and fortune as a result of this.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean throughout all throughout music there are or
Speaker 2: or or recent rock history their deaths that makes zero sense.
Speaker 2: And he and even to to people like me who
Speaker 2: you know, who are not trained in law or anything
Speaker 2: like that, can look at and go, that's not right there.
Speaker 2: There's something very not right about that situation. You take
Speaker 2: a look at the death of Jimmy Hendricks for example,
Speaker 2: Jimmy did not like the band that the record label
Speaker 2: put together for him. He did not like the record
Speaker 2: label and and was going to leave that label and
Speaker 2: that band, and he did. He uh, he replaced what
Speaker 2: was a Mitch Mitchell Noel Redding with Buddy Miles and
Speaker 2: Billy Cox and went to a whole other I think
Speaker 2: it was an independent label. And then shortly after he dies,
Speaker 2: But he dies in a very strange way. You know
Speaker 2: they said, they said, oh, he died from a drug overdose. Well, no,
Speaker 2: he died from a vomit afphixiation. He was on his
Speaker 2: back and he threw up and died like that from
Speaker 2: what I understand. Well, again I got some questions here,
Speaker 2: how come that happened after he threatened to leave the
Speaker 2: industry and try to go on his own. And what
Speaker 2: trained paramedic would take a victim who may have overdosed
Speaker 2: drinking or drugs and was throwing up, but would strap
Speaker 2: them down and have them laying on their back. That
Speaker 2: doesn't make it any sense. And so again I'm not saying, uh,
Speaker 2: well that's what happened with Jimmy Hendrix or you know
Speaker 2: that that they took him out because he he left
Speaker 2: the major label and so forth, But that death seems
Speaker 2: very questionable. Kurt Cobain's death absolutely does not make any
Speaker 2: sense as far as how he died, where he died,
Speaker 2: and in the circumstances. It doesn't It doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2: It sounds like there's some serious problems and questions that
Speaker 2: need to be asked. There and and and again. The
Speaker 2: list goes on too.
Speaker 3: Well, if you if you don't get in line, with
Speaker 3: their program, or if you don't get in along with
Speaker 3: the enemy's programs, you get taken out, or when you
Speaker 3: become a believer, well, and when you become a believer
Speaker 3: walk away from it, they try to make life miserable
Speaker 3: for you, attack your credibility, even try to kill you sometimes.
Speaker 3: You know, take for example, when people bearing off the
Speaker 3: of our topic and moving something else, think about how
Speaker 3: many people that have mysteriously found or record these creatures
Speaker 3: like these Nephilon beings and stuff, and how the government,
Speaker 3: various people will try to take them out. It's the
Speaker 3: same thing. If you know something or if you don't
Speaker 3: get in a line on something, they're going to try
Speaker 3: to instill harm upon you because they don't have control
Speaker 3: of you and you're messing or or pullying their plan.
Speaker 2: I think you're spot on. I think you're spot on
Speaker 2: that that's exactly what it sounds like, because if you.
Speaker 3: Think about it, there's saying, look, look we got to
Speaker 3: do here. We all we want you to do is
Speaker 3: do this message, and we're going to give you everything.
Speaker 3: But when they realize that what you should was saying
Speaker 3: when he told the woman at the world the water
Speaker 3: that you thirst for now you will continue thirsting. But
Speaker 3: the water I give you you will never thirst again.
Speaker 3: And it's the same thing as fame, fortune, whatever. It
Speaker 3: only goes so far.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and they said take it with you afterwards, you.
Speaker 3: Can't take it with you, and it does no good,
Speaker 3: just like how stupid Satan was, how arrogant he was
Speaker 3: when he tried to get the master. If you buy
Speaker 3: before me, I'll give you everything. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: I own everything, what are you talking about, and he said, no,
Speaker 3: you know, depart from me, you know. And that's the
Speaker 3: thing is, it's the same thing is when they realize
Speaker 3: they can't take everything and this and this stuff sucks
Speaker 3: the life out of them and they want to get out,
Speaker 3: and they're the enemy's like, no, we made a contract. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to let you go.
Speaker 1: But as I've heard any lawyers say, contracts are made
Speaker 1: to be broken. And we've got the best lawyer there is.
Speaker 2: Amen. Amen, absolutely well.
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the deception, is these
Speaker 1: people that have literally sold their souls for rock and roll,
Speaker 1: they think that there is no escape.
Speaker 4: I've already signed the contract. I'm done.
Speaker 1: I better enjoy this while I can and get everything
Speaker 1: because you know, afterwards it's the fires of hell. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. And again, like like we just read
Speaker 2: a little bit ago and Act sixteen, through the Lord,
Speaker 2: any contract can be broken because he's above any contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any of that stuff. It's just a name, you know.
Speaker 1: And then the word says that God gave his son
Speaker 1: a name that is above all names. Didn't say some
Speaker 1: names are above all contracts or you know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say there the name of Yes, sure Jesus
Speaker 1: is love all names. It doesn't. That's that's it. That's
Speaker 1: the pinnacle that nothing that's done can't be undone.
Speaker 3: Well, that's like these manifests, these things we talk about
Speaker 3: when people are taking up or whatever they call upon
Speaker 3: the name of the Lord, and they're never bothered again.
Speaker 3: Even if they all bothered again, these things disappeared because
Speaker 3: they cannot stand up against him because even in the scriptures,
Speaker 3: the demon said, are you here to destroy us? Now
Speaker 3: they had to get permission.
Speaker 2: And and and the fact that the demonic spirits knew,
Speaker 2: they knew that that he is he in the end,
Speaker 2: he's going to destroy it all. So they knew, and
Speaker 2: that's why they asked are you here now to do that?
Speaker 2: And if and if the Lord wanted to, he could,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he he's following everything that he
Speaker 2: laid out for history for half to happen. But yeah,
Speaker 2: even even the even the demons themselves knew they're powerless
Speaker 2: against him.
Speaker 4: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, one scripture where Christ is just walking by and
Speaker 1: then the demons that were in the person cried out,
Speaker 1: why why do you torture? So he wasn't even paying
Speaker 1: any attention to him, just being in his presence. It
Speaker 1: was his torture for those demonic spirits.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, because if you think about it, Satan's not stupid.
Speaker 2: Satan was there when the Bible was written, when it
Speaker 2: was when it was canonized. He knows what's coming. Satan
Speaker 2: absolutely knows his demise is coming and it's coming soon.
Speaker 2: And Satan then game is not to defeat God. He
Speaker 2: already knows he cannot defeat the Lord. Yeah, is his
Speaker 2: n game is how much of God's creation can I
Speaker 2: take down with me when I'm finally done away with
Speaker 2: And that's his end game.
Speaker 1: Now do you think the people that profess to be
Speaker 1: followers of Satan or members of the Satanic Church.
Speaker 4: Thing, do they actually think that that something's going to.
Speaker 1: Happen there and that that evil is going to triumph
Speaker 1: in the end despite of the crucifixion and death and
Speaker 1: the blood of Christ that was shed for all this.
Speaker 4: Do they really believe that or that?
Speaker 1: I think they've just been deceived because it's not going
Speaker 1: to turn out that way. But again, you talk about
Speaker 1: a persuasive enemy. He was able to take what, well,
Speaker 1: I think a third of the angels with him, but
Speaker 1: he was cast out of heaven. So there's some powerful
Speaker 1: powers of persuasion. And I think what are the names
Speaker 1: is of the Prince of Lies? So there you go.
Speaker 2: Well, and that that's that's actually a really really good question.
Speaker 1: Why would you follow something or someone, some entity, some
Speaker 1: power that you know has already been defeated. That's that
Speaker 1: would make no sense. But in none of this is
Speaker 1: supposed to make sense.
Speaker 2: The Church of Satan is a is a walking contradiction
Speaker 2: within itself because if you if you ever talked to
Speaker 2: members of the church or followers of it, they tell you, well,
Speaker 2: we don't believe in God and we don't believe in
Speaker 2: the devil they're they're hardcore atheists.
Speaker 4: I've talked about we don't we don't even believe it.
Speaker 1: The devil did, and the we're gods, we are God
Speaker 1: and uh. But but yet there you go, there it is.
Speaker 1: It's a contradiction.
Speaker 2: Well, and and the problem is when you if you
Speaker 2: ever watched any of their ceremonies, everything begins with hail Satan,
Speaker 2: so you're hailing something that you don't believe exists. And
Speaker 2: then if you take a look at uh, Anton Levy's book, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the the uh, the Satanic Bible for them
Speaker 2: not to believe that God exists and in fact that
Speaker 2: their religion is a hatred to that which I think
Speaker 2: it is. I don't think it's atheistic at all. If
Speaker 2: you look at all the precepts of the Satanic Bible,
Speaker 2: Anton Levy had to have gone through the Book of
Speaker 2: Leviticus and the and and and the law in order
Speaker 2: to write that book, to make it completely one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty degrees opposite, because everything, every rule that they
Speaker 2: have is a direct contradiction to a law of God. Yep.
Speaker 2: So I don't I mean, personally, I don't buy the
Speaker 2: or atheists. I don't I don't believe that at all.
Speaker 2: If you listen to them and and you look at
Speaker 2: some of their material, they believe, or they know, there
Speaker 2: is God, and they are what they are. And the
Speaker 2: religion is what it is because it hates God, so
Speaker 2: it embraces the literal Satan.
Speaker 1: Looking at for just a moment here now, I've heard
Speaker 1: it said that he didn't even believe in all this,
Speaker 1: that it was just a way he found that he
Speaker 1: could con people and feather his own ness, so to speak,
Speaker 1: because he had been like a work on a sideshow
Speaker 1: as a barker and a organ player, and I think
Speaker 1: like a girly show or something like that. Do you
Speaker 1: believe that he was serious about what he was doing
Speaker 1: or was he just a tool of Satan to start
Speaker 1: this movement and carry on the evil deeds? Did you
Speaker 1: believe that Levy was serious?
Speaker 4: He I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think he was he because he
Speaker 1: had all the trappings and everything. And it's hard to say,
Speaker 1: but I'm just asking for your opinion on.
Speaker 2: That, just my opinion. If you look at the church
Speaker 2: today because his daughter took it over, I would say
Speaker 2: it was serious enough that it's still around today long
Speaker 2: after his death. I think he may have started out,
Speaker 2: may have started out as a con possibly, but when
Speaker 2: you look at his his level of study into the
Speaker 2: occult and especially Alistair Crowley and especially some of the
Speaker 2: famous members he had, if it started out as a con,
Speaker 2: it definitely ended with him believing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree on that opinion. Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: people like Jane Mansfield, Sammy Davis Junior, a lot of
Speaker 1: these people that weren't the superstellar elite, but people that
Speaker 1: were household names and things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even in more modern times, Marilyn Manson, yeah,
Speaker 2: picture and some various other members. Jimmy Page, Uh, Now
Speaker 2: I never read anything that he was involved with LaVey's Church,
Speaker 2: But but Jimmy Page, even to this day is a
Speaker 2: very serious occultist and a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 2: he that he believes a lot of it is LaVey's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was seriously into magic, and he even he
Speaker 1: complained about not being able to find certain occult books
Speaker 1: and things that he wanted, so he opened his own
Speaker 1: a cult bookstore, I think it was called the Equinox,
Speaker 1: and he collected, yes, personal belongings of Croley. He had
Speaker 1: like a Croley museum. In his house or at one
Speaker 1: of his houses. I think of things that he collected
Speaker 1: that had belonged to Croley. So it's definitely if he
Speaker 1: wasn't a follower, it was definitely some sort of hero
Speaker 1: worship or an admiration. And to the teachings are evident
Speaker 1: and then are evident in the music and the lyrics
Speaker 1: and the deeds and things that Zepps and I think
Speaker 1: that maybe the others not so much. But I think Page,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was the impetus behind all that influence
Speaker 1: in led Zeppelin, and it did. It propelled them to
Speaker 1: just mega started. I mean, there's there's no bigger band
Speaker 1: than led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3: And plus two it's oh the people, even in the
Speaker 3: generations today still listen to the band. They still have
Speaker 3: the shirts. Like even the kids that are coming up
Speaker 3: retired of the music that's going on all the day,
Speaker 3: and they're listening to this stuff today. So it's carrying
Speaker 3: on as the agenda was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I agree with brother Justin. Yes, let me too,
Speaker 2: I would say. I would say also Satan, I think
Speaker 2: heavy metal was the foot in the doorway into the
Speaker 2: music industry for Satan. But now well we were coming up.
Speaker 2: There was divisions in music. You know, there was heavy
Speaker 2: metal and there were heavy metal followers which were different
Speaker 2: from pop and pop followers which were different from country
Speaker 2: and country followers and disco and so forth and so on.
Speaker 2: It's now all jumbled up into one big mess. Country
Speaker 2: is now involved with hip hop, is now involved with rock.
Speaker 2: Is all jumbled up in the pop now. And I think,
Speaker 2: like I said, I think in the seventies it started,
Speaker 2: or in the sixties it started with rock, and then
Speaker 2: Satan weaseled his way into all genres of music and
Speaker 2: now runs it as one big conglomerate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a very apt description. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's widespread. It started out, you know, like a
Speaker 1: mold spore, and then it just spread and the tentacles
Speaker 1: are everywhere, absolute, film, television, all kinds of media.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and again, and especially with the Rolling Stones,
Speaker 2: you know a Alster Crowley influenced them. If you remember
Speaker 2: the same year that that Sergeant Pepper's came out where
Speaker 2: it had Crowley's picture on the upper left hand corner,
Speaker 2: the same year that Rolling Stone album came out had
Speaker 2: Crowley's pickture on it. And then a couple of years
Speaker 2: later what ended up happening. Mick Jagger ended up playing
Speaker 2: uh Satan in Kenneth Angers, Lucifer Rising, and then of
Speaker 2: course that famous song, h yeah, Sympathy for the Devil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many after after mcjaggers sung that? How many
Speaker 3: years later did he until he died?
Speaker 2: Mcdagger is still around?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, my gosh.
Speaker 4: Joke joking.
Speaker 1: So the Rolling Stones are the Strolling Bones now because
Speaker 1: I think they're in their eighties or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking somebody else.
Speaker 3: What's his face that got killed?
Speaker 2: Twenties?
Speaker 3: Buried in Britain, London?
Speaker 2: Oh forgot?
Speaker 3: Okay, never mind?
Speaker 2: Are you thinking about John Lennon from the Beatles?
Speaker 3: Not John Lennon. We're talking about him tonight. The people
Speaker 3: that went by his grave and they when I take
Speaker 3: a picture, they sent a manifestation of him that I
Speaker 3: think he died in a car accident or something. Gosh,
Speaker 3: I can't remember he was talking about, but he was
Speaker 3: in the twenty seventh group. Jimmy Hendrix. Who's the other two? U?
Speaker 2: Jim Morrison of the Doors and Jennie Joplin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Jim Morrison. I was I was thinking to him,
Speaker 3: but I got too confused.
Speaker 1: Cobain Amy Winehouse. There's a lot of members of the
Speaker 1: twenty seven clubs.
Speaker 3: Let's let's explore that one about Amy Winehouse. So what happened?
Speaker 3: Do you think that she was taken out? I don't
Speaker 3: really know that much.
Speaker 1: I've heard. Now, again this is on the internet, so
Speaker 1: you can hear all kinds of things that, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was something going on there the night that she died.
Speaker 1: They heard screen there was blood everywhere. It was like
Speaker 1: some sort of sacrifice allegedly took place there in the
Speaker 1: place where she died. So again, there's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of strange, strange deaths throughout rock and roll.
Speaker 2: Well, and and also the uh, the testimonies of people.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people say, oh, there's no
Speaker 2: there's no blood eating, drinking or any kind of satanic
Speaker 2: garbage like that, and that's not true. Uh, look at
Speaker 2: who who's that strange woman that does blood cooking a
Speaker 2: Brahma vic She's involved with that whole industry and and yeah,
Speaker 2: she does the whole blood cooking thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Lady got has been involved with some
Speaker 1: of that. And again it's far reaching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it and now, like I said, as far
Speaker 2: as the occult of the ancient past, and now it's
Speaker 2: one big octopus, but with lots and lots of tentacles.
Speaker 1: Definitely far reaching, and again in all forms of media,
Speaker 1: and as we can't truss here enough, they don't even
Speaker 1: attempt to hide it anymore with the symbolism and all
Speaker 1: all the things that go along with that. Like in
Speaker 1: our day, Eric it was, you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a wink wink, nudge nudge out was there on the
Speaker 1: album covers and in the artwork and even in the lyrics.
Speaker 1: But a lot of my parents didn't really know what
Speaker 1: I was listening to her what went on at those
Speaker 1: concerts and things. I would have probably been forbidden to
Speaker 1: go to stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Iron Maiden. I think if my
Speaker 2: folks had really really known, Yeah yeah, I probably would
Speaker 2: have been for forbidden.
Speaker 4: I loved Iron Maiden back in the day.
Speaker 1: I saw them, I think in a total of like thirty
Speaker 1: something times over the years, and oh wow, it's it's
Speaker 1: quite a spectacle to anybody that's never been to a
Speaker 1: heavy metal concert with all the parent technics. Of course,
Speaker 1: they had the Eddy Corpse like figure that would come
Speaker 1: out and do things.
Speaker 2: And old Eddie grotesque.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was quite a show.
Speaker 2: Well, and not not just not just only a show,
Speaker 2: but the musician ship, especially of Iron Maiden. The musician
Speaker 2: ship is absolutely it's phenomenal. It's undeniable. You know. The
Speaker 2: one thing with heavy metal that really separated it from
Speaker 2: every other genre of music was the musician ship. There
Speaker 2: are no other genres of music that played guitar the
Speaker 2: way heavy metal does. There's no other genres of music
Speaker 2: that could play guitar, bass and drums the way heavy
Speaker 2: metal does. I mean, what guitars outside of heavy metal
Speaker 2: plays better than Ingvey Momstein, Randy Rhodes, or Steve I
Speaker 2: or Jimi Hendrix. I mean, you just don't find it.
Speaker 2: And especially if you were an Iron Maiden fan in
Speaker 2: pop music or anything else who plays the bass like
Speaker 2: Steve Harris. I mean, I'm I.
Speaker 1: Had the Tableture one time and I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out one of his songs. I got like the
Speaker 1: first dozen or so notes and I thought yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I listened to it and it was just it
Speaker 1: was so fast you couldn't even keep up. Think of
Speaker 1: the Trooper or something. I was trying to play like, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's that the run to the Hill.
Speaker 1: Borders on the supernatural. Just the amazing skill and speed
Speaker 1: and dexterity these guys. And they're not even paying attention,
Speaker 1: They're not even look They're just looking around and having
Speaker 1: a good time. But I guess it's just a dedication
Speaker 1: to the instrument and the music to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. And I just never had the time, patience,
Speaker 1: or the actual music inclination to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: If I practiced every single day, I was at best mediocre.
Speaker 1: But those guys are just untouchable. But it makes you
Speaker 1: wonder did they make some kind of deal to have
Speaker 1: those powers? Maybe maybe not. I mean again, we're just
Speaker 1: spitballing here, but yeah, I think some of that does well.
Speaker 2: If if that wasn't the case, then I would definitely
Speaker 2: say they absolutely ignore the fact that God gave them
Speaker 2: that ability to be able to play with that type
Speaker 2: of skill. I mean, you know, you listen to you
Speaker 2: listen to Rush for example, Rush or or Yes remember
Speaker 2: the band Yes, And I'm talking way before Asia days
Speaker 2: or the eighties. The complexity, the complexity of Rush of
Speaker 2: Yes or King Crimson's music. There's no pop, country or
Speaker 2: any other cannot even come close to that as far
Speaker 2: as that kind of musicianship. And again, if it's not,
Speaker 2: you know, making deals with a demonic spirit to be
Speaker 2: able to do that, it is definitely not acknowledging the
Speaker 2: Lord God that gave them that ability from the time
Speaker 2: they were born. And now I'm not saying all all
Speaker 2: rock musicians deny the fact that God gave him that talent,
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm sure there are there are many out
Speaker 2: there that that do acknowledge.
Speaker 4: That I was.
Speaker 1: It's what they do with that talent or how they
Speaker 1: choose to use that, and I think.
Speaker 2: Is exactly exactly. But I I can't confidently say this
Speaker 2: point me a drummer of today's generation, in the new
Speaker 2: genres of music that come anywhere near Neil Pirt of
Speaker 2: Rush doesn't exist, just my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, And I had a friend that totally idolized,
Speaker 1: just borderline worship Neil Purton. He learned to play a
Speaker 1: lot of those drum solos and stuff, and he's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't see how the man does it, so many
Speaker 1: different things going on both hands, both beat and then
Speaker 1: he played a lot of things with foot pedals too.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, the triggering samples into Yeah,
Speaker 1: much later in life. He just Rush a few times.
Speaker 1: And one of the first times I saw him, they
Speaker 1: were with a band not Quiet, right, but there was
Speaker 1: a Canadian band called Riot, and something had happened to
Speaker 1: the lead singer and they couldn't appear that night. So
Speaker 1: Rush came out and did like a super long three
Speaker 1: hour concert and played stuff they don't normally play, and
Speaker 1: that was I think that was the first time I
Speaker 1: saw Russian. It was just amazing, you know, to sit
Speaker 1: there for three hours and just be bore by these
Speaker 1: three men making all this music and noise.
Speaker 4: Incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, easy.
Speaker 4: I hardly believe there's only three people in that band.
Speaker 2: Triumph. Yeah, very hard to believe that's just a three
Speaker 2: member band. But yeah, you know again again, you know,
Speaker 2: as far as going back to your question before, do
Speaker 2: a lot of these musicians make deals with the demonic?
Speaker 2: I think possibly some, but definitely a lot of them
Speaker 2: do not and will not acknowledge that it's the Lord
Speaker 2: God who endowed them with that gift before they ever
Speaker 2: even became musicians. You know, it was already there in
Speaker 2: other words.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, those are God given towns. Like
Speaker 1: my brother, he had all the musical talent in my family.
Speaker 1: The man could play guitar, banjo, harmonica, keyboards, just and
Speaker 1: he played by air. Never had a lesson, couldn't read music.
Speaker 1: He just had the ability, but he used it for
Speaker 1: praise and worship. He was a evangelical minister and also
Speaker 1: had a really good praise and worship bands that.
Speaker 4: Would equal a lot of rock bands.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody in that band who was touted, the drummer,
Speaker 1: the bass player, the keyboardist, and then he accompanied them
Speaker 1: on guitar and things, and just it was amazing. I
Speaker 1: loved those praise and worship sessions. I mean there was
Speaker 1: times when we wouldn't even get to the church part.
Speaker 1: The place would just you know, the spirit would flow
Speaker 1: in there and we didn't need to hear preaching. We
Speaker 1: were in touch with God right there in the music,
Speaker 1: and God is in the music.
Speaker 2: M Well, yeah, that's it. You could only imagine what
Speaker 2: it would be like if a lot of these musicians
Speaker 2: got saved and actually got in got involved in true
Speaker 2: praise and worship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and I've seen some of those Christian rock
Speaker 1: bands like Petra. I don't know if this guy, the
Speaker 1: Greg Voltz, I don't know if he's still with him
Speaker 1: or not. But I saw them at like a high
Speaker 1: school auditorium back of the date. I'm just blown away.
Speaker 4: There's some good musicmanship there.
Speaker 1: And they had a song I don't remember rock and
Speaker 1: roll to you to get his message through to you,
Speaker 1: and then Kiss did their version of that. But and
Speaker 1: then they had another song called Blinded Eyes, which the
Speaker 1: melody was almost exactly the same as a Sabbath song
Speaker 1: called country Girl. So it goes to show you it's
Speaker 1: how you use those gifts and what you do with it,
Speaker 1: whether you're glorifying the creator or the.
Speaker 2: Creation exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, gentlemen, Sadly we're just about out of time here
Speaker 1: for this episode of Everything out There. As always, it's
Speaker 1: a pleasure, haven't you guys. Here we've covered a lot
Speaker 1: of strange ground tonight, but still in life talking about
Speaker 1: and I sense a part three and probably beyond for
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff we're talking about here. It's a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on if you have any words with people,
Speaker 1: and also let them know where they can find you,
Speaker 1: and I'll put it in the show notes as well
Speaker 1: the links to your Facebook page and your books.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we are with sound the show far Messianic Ministries,
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Speaker 3: Yep, we're doing doing a lot of things with where
Speaker 3: we address a lot of subjects that a lot of
Speaker 3: churches don't want to address. I'm telling you, if your
Speaker 3: follow of the Lord people are curious about what's going
Speaker 3: on in the world today and these things with paramormal activity,
Speaker 3: UFOs and all this, it opens up the gospel because
Speaker 3: it opens up the spirit realm, and we talk about
Speaker 3: that we take on subjects that nobody wants to take on.
Speaker 3: I've had people that offline have tried to debate me
Speaker 3: or don't really know, and it's like, hey, tell me
Speaker 3: otherwise that you can believe in the Messiah and resurrection,
Speaker 3: then why can't you believe the other part. So that's
Speaker 3: why we do what we do. So yeah, and by
Speaker 3: the way, if I said this the last time, if
Speaker 3: anybody that listens to us, is having trouble or wants
Speaker 3: to have us pray for them or talk to us
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Speaker 2: I and pray for you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely got these guys one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: They're the real deal.
Speaker 2: And we do. We do have a few books out
Speaker 2: and we're currently working on one. Always got a project going.
Speaker 1: Good deal. Look forward to that one as well. I'll
Speaker 1: put the links into the books on Amazon. Well again, Pastor,
Speaker 1: so thank you for being here. I appreciate your time
Speaker 1: and look forward to the next time we get to
Speaker 1: sit and shout out. I'm loving this, get to relive
Speaker 1: a little of the glory days when I really didn't
Speaker 1: know as much as I do now about what I
Speaker 1: was actually doing and kind of ashamed of some of
Speaker 1: those things. But I did have a good time back.
Speaker 1: But thanks again, I'm gonna go ahead and side off here.
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