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Speaker 3: Chris, I'm the Nerd with the Mouth David Alliance A
Speaker 3: seven Symbol Volume three hundred and four and as always as.
Speaker 2: We are, we are now breaking down another episode of
Speaker 2: X Men ninety seven eight Wolverine and Morph centric episode.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't get too many.
Speaker 2: In the first season with Wolverine and Morph at that point.
Speaker 2: You know, they were kind of they were kind of
Speaker 2: pushed to the as side.
Speaker 1: Characters in first season. So I kind of liked that
Speaker 1: we got a very much a centric episode on them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they had dropped little nuggets here and
Speaker 4: there in the original series. There's, you know, some allusion
Speaker 4: to them being very close. In season one of X
Speaker 4: Men ninety seven, there are some allusions to even more closeness,
Speaker 4: more one than the other. And so now we get
Speaker 4: a nice little Marvel I will call it their version
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Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: So my name is Brian and I have a YouTube channel,
Speaker 6: a pedestrian one. It's called Sheehan is Dead Comics. That's
Speaker 6: s h e e h a n is Dead Comics.
Speaker 6: My co pilot Scott and I like the chat. Like
Speaker 6: Chris mentioned, a whole bunch of geek stuff. We've had
Speaker 6: a bunch of guests on Dan de Dio, Jason Fabric,
Speaker 6: Philip Kennedy Johnson, We've had Richard Satrone who is stunt Batman,
Speaker 6: and the Snyder of the Snyder movies. A whole slew
Speaker 6: of interesting people, a lot of interesting stories and backstories
Speaker 6: told about Rob Leifeld, a whole bunch of stuff image
Speaker 6: all the goodies. I highly encourage you to check it out.
Speaker 6: Please also Dread Winnick we had on for Under the
Speaker 6: Red Hood. We talked about the book in the movie
Speaker 6: for almost an hour and a half.
Speaker 5: That was a great chat.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm a geeky and I'm not leaky, and
Speaker 6: I'm here to get down.
Speaker 5: I'm not the biggest Marvel fan. So this is a
Speaker 5: really good thing for me to be in doctrinated man,
Speaker 5: because the X Men always scared me and they still
Speaker 5: do as a forty four year old man. Because I'm like,
Speaker 5: where do I start reading?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've it's a.
Speaker 6: Lot if Omar put out that I don't know a
Speaker 6: few months ago of how to read and it was
Speaker 6: like a three and a half hour video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if you want to delve that deep. But
Speaker 2: I can always say this, there are two entry points.
Speaker 2: I would say, if you want to go really deep,
Speaker 2: start with Giant Size number one with Burn and Claremont.
Speaker 2: Read the Claremont run through, you know, his time getting
Speaker 2: with Jim Lee, So that's a lot there. Or jump
Speaker 2: on during House and Powers of Ten and you know
Speaker 2: kind of do the Craco Air. I'd say those are
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Speaker 2: don't if you don't have some really intense background out,
Speaker 2: you'll still be okay.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: I appreciate I appreciate that and let me just give
Speaker 6: me another minute to expound on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, as regards the x Men, I finally downloaded the
Speaker 6: Marble and limited at and I started reading Brubaker's cap,
Speaker 6: which was awesome, and then I started with Schism with
Speaker 6: the x Men and then Messiah Complex and then now
Speaker 6: I'm reading like the first two issues of when Bendis
Speaker 6: had his uncanny and then the other one.
Speaker 5: Whatever that one.
Speaker 2: Hey, you go some highs, you go some lows in
Speaker 2: that statement, and he's sticking with it. Schism is a
Speaker 2: low point. Messiah Complex, The Messiah Trilogy is really good.
Speaker 2: You got Messiah Complex, You've got uh yeah, and then
Speaker 2: war I can't remember the middle middle one, but yeah,
Speaker 2: the Messiah Trilogy is great. And then he said the
Speaker 2: bendis run not my tempo for bendis not his strong suit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just I just started with that one.
Speaker 6: And this is where Cyclops is, you know, a jerk,
Speaker 6: like a huge jerk, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: No, no, he's always a jerk. Don't don't ever hear whoa whoa.
Speaker 6: Growing up watching watching the cartoon, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 6: Cyclops is so cool. And then you know, E've ben
Speaker 6: in X Men ninety seven. He seems really cool and
Speaker 6: then in the book he's a big jerk and murdering professors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes off the defense.
Speaker 2: I more don't like Cyclops in the comics by touch
Speaker 2: by David and I have a good banter why hashtag
Speaker 2: Cyclops is wrong?
Speaker 1: But I will I will relent. They have made him
Speaker 1: a better character in Next mid ninety seven.
Speaker 5: They really have.
Speaker 6: And he's not such a stick up as behind leader either,
Speaker 6: Like he's got some personality. His powers are super awesome,
Speaker 6: you know, like especially the first episode from the first
Speaker 6: season when yeah rested his way he fell through the
Speaker 6: sky with no parachute.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's.
Speaker 1: Making he's making statements.
Speaker 6: He's he's really cool in this again. And then you
Speaker 6: mentioned Krakoa, So I started I started collecting the omnibuses.
Speaker 6: And there's so many Krocoa books coming out omnis by
Speaker 6: here and Gill and Jerry Duggan and Jonathan Hickman. I'm like,
Speaker 6: which ones do I read? What order do I read
Speaker 6: these in? So I got to look that up too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it gets a little a little crazy because
Speaker 2: they go daego tie and heavy, but it's all it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: ninety seven season two, episode five, entitled Weapon X lies
Speaker 2: in DVDs, So nice.
Speaker 1: Little homage to the title door.
Speaker 2: We've got a you know, kind of an homage to
Speaker 2: the last you know what was it.
Speaker 1: I think they did a similar thing in.
Speaker 2: The in the original show, David, Yes, they had where
Speaker 2: it was videotapes instead of DVDs. Yeah so, but yeah,
Speaker 2: so we you know, I'm not gonna go We're just
Speaker 2: gonna go straight into spoilers because there's it's kind of
Speaker 2: hard to go non spoilers with this because a lot
Speaker 2: of interesting stuff that happens in this It's, as we said,
Speaker 2: it's a morph and wolver centric episode. We saw the
Speaker 2: preview at the end of the last episode with Wolverine
Speaker 2: getting information from Black Widow and Captain America. So if
Speaker 2: you haven't watched the episode, but go go back watch it.
Speaker 2: If not getting ready to spoil it in three to one,
Speaker 2: so this is an interesting team, David, that Wolverine assembles
Speaker 2: most of them, at least two very much are thwarn
Speaker 2: enemies of Logan. You've got if we've got Lady death Strike,
Speaker 2: we've got Sabertooth, we've got Maverick and Garrison Kine. Obviously
Speaker 2: Lady das Stroke and the Lady's gonna be Daily dath
Speaker 2: Strike and Sabertooth Smart enemies of Wolverine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, harken back to the original series. Logan
Speaker 4: does have, you know, history with both of these in
Speaker 4: two different ways. He had some romantic history with Lady
Speaker 4: Das Strike before becoming.
Speaker 1: Adversarious, and we all.
Speaker 2: Know the the very volatile relationship that he has.
Speaker 1: It's Sabertooth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that, Brian of Wolverine
Speaker 2: kind of teaming up with getting his enemies to.
Speaker 1: Join him on this kind of journey back to Weapon X.
Speaker 6: Well, from watching the cartoon in the nineties, it seems
Speaker 6: like it would be sacrilege. So I don't know if
Speaker 6: that's something would have done back then. I remember the
Speaker 6: Death Strike one. She's like, my lady just strike and
Speaker 6: there was the alien ship.
Speaker 2: Yep, and they make a callback to that in this episode.
Speaker 2: So so while saber Tooths history of Woulverine is well documented,
Speaker 2: Lady Death Strikes Yuriko, who actually was a former love
Speaker 2: interest of Wolverine. Her father's scientific work will go on
Speaker 2: to be the foundation of Weapon X. Maverick was a
Speaker 2: mercenary who also operated under the code named Agent Zero.
Speaker 2: While working for Weapon X. Team made a Wolverines on
Speaker 2: tm X and finally, Garrison Kane was a mercenary who
Speaker 2: lost his arms and legs during a mission. He later
Speaker 2: was transformed into a cyborg by the revamped Weapon X program.
Speaker 2: So every one of these individuals outside of Borf has
Speaker 2: a direct connection to the Weapon X program. And you know,
Speaker 2: gathering with the conversations on the plane, David, it seems
Speaker 2: like Wolverine's kind of he has an ulterior motive that
Speaker 2: I was calling it, you know, you know, the last time,
Speaker 2: and I have a very good feeling that this was
Speaker 2: the way it was.
Speaker 1: Going to go.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, he he's keeping quiet about his
Speaker 4: reasonings for being there and gathering them all there, but.
Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious. It's obvious to everyone.
Speaker 1: But one person on that plane while they're there exactly.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think when you know, when they get
Speaker 2: off the plane and start kind of what Wolverine does
Speaker 2: and tearing up stuff, they don't realize that he's lost
Speaker 2: his adamantim at that point. Yeah, So the team trades
Speaker 2: some banter back and forth. Wolverin explains to Morph that
Speaker 2: they're going to shut down a new WEAPONEX operation and
Speaker 2: to produced questions Morris's motives for joining the mission given
Speaker 2: that he has no history with Weapon X. And the
Speaker 2: conversation's interrupted when the plane gets hit by a flock
Speaker 2: of mutated bird So wepon X is now mutating birds.
Speaker 2: And so when Morph gets out of the wreckage, he
Speaker 2: finds that Caine's been impaled. So, uh, mister Caine, we
Speaker 2: hardly knew the you are the slip knot of this episode.
Speaker 1: Yes, just opening cannon fodder.
Speaker 2: You had to you know, sacrifice someone out the gate
Speaker 2: and he was that one.
Speaker 1: Now what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think about you know, those random characters
Speaker 2: Brian that just you know, you see him, Oh, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of and then they just get wiped
Speaker 2: off the map?
Speaker 1: What do you think about doing that?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 6: When you mentioned slipknot, like those ones are so easy
Speaker 6: to spot, you're like, oh, that's the cannon fodder because
Speaker 6: he doesn't he doesn't live with this or that's a
Speaker 6: that's a you know, an auspicious character. But I was
Speaker 6: speaking of that like Morph. I love when Morph Morph's
Speaker 6: in Morph worps in too double n Tundra uh thor
Speaker 6: or like the Hulk or something like he's their gateway
Speaker 6: into using other characters. I really am looking forward to
Speaker 6: an episode when maybe Steve Avengers and the and the
Speaker 6: X Men or something like that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you can spot cannon fodder a mile away.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I love that they you know, when
Speaker 2: they did this in the first season, you know, morph
Speaker 2: had you know, a human face at that point, but
Speaker 2: they decided to go with the Age of Apocalypse version
Speaker 2: of morphin just have him have the white face and
Speaker 2: make him non binary on the show. And you still
Speaker 2: that in the first season. You kind of see that
Speaker 2: in this episode as well. But his power said, they
Speaker 2: kind of alter in an idea that he actually he
Speaker 2: because there's always been a question like how does morph
Speaker 2: do the powers of it? Is it a true mimicry
Speaker 2: of it or things like that, and he apparently in
Speaker 2: this version of the character, he does have the you know,
Speaker 2: the strength abilities of the characters.
Speaker 1: So when he transfers.
Speaker 2: Into Haulk, he has a basically a modified version of
Speaker 2: the strength of the character.
Speaker 6: Dude, I was thinking thinking that, Yeah, I was like, how,
Speaker 6: you know how because in one of them that I watched,
Speaker 6: he was he was for the one where he was
Speaker 6: the Hulk, and I'm like, does he match the power
Speaker 6: or like, how does that work that person?
Speaker 2: Yeah, bears coming in chat a ton of Easter eggs, yeh,
Speaker 2: especially when we get to the DVDs. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about all all the different Easter eggs on
Speaker 2: those DVDs that they went through. And he has more
Speaker 2: fast cycles. Oh yeah, that was that was great. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll definitely get there as well. So the three get
Speaker 2: attacked by a giant mutated bear because you know, nothing
Speaker 2: like raslin polar bears and the you know, sharing similar
Speaker 2: characteristics of the birds, They've got this kind of weird
Speaker 2: kind of mutation on them. Morev tries to fight back
Speaker 2: by transforming into sasquatch, so you know, Buddy's overpowered by them.
Speaker 2: Wolverine comes to the rescue, but he's even out masked,
Speaker 2: and so Sabertooth goes in and does what saber Tooth
Speaker 2: does best.
Speaker 1: Kill, kill hard, and kill and kill him.
Speaker 2: Dad at that point he had makes no qualms about that,
Speaker 2: and that's he is the first one to notice that
Speaker 2: Wolverine does not have his adamantem. He has bone claws,
Speaker 2: and he's wondering what has happened. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 2: really funny to see Sabertooth comes in because he just
Speaker 2: he goes right up to this giant bear, grabs him
Speaker 2: by the head and just snaps the neck. Note no problem,
Speaker 2: just like you guys are playing with your food. We
Speaker 2: got it, bigger things to do. This goes in and says,
Speaker 2: does let it happen?
Speaker 1: Let it happen.
Speaker 2: So the team goes and finds WEAPONEX facility, but it
Speaker 2: appears to have been attacked.
Speaker 1: Enter the rundown.
Speaker 2: They enter into the building providing you know, and they
Speaker 2: start going in and they get attacked, and we get
Speaker 2: Morph turning into the Thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a very cool moment and school because like, as
Speaker 4: they are going through this facility is very reminiscent of
Speaker 4: John Carpenter's The Thing and for him to turn into
Speaker 4: the superhero the Thing in order to smash these creatures.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a nice little winking knot there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So as they make their way through the facility and
Speaker 2: searching for doctor Cornelia's scientists responsible for their own experiments,
Speaker 2: they find it littered with bodies, many of which appear
Speaker 2: to be brutally killed. Sabertooth continues to be on his
Speaker 2: violent self, and Morph brings up his son Graydon Creed
Speaker 2: acknowledging the family resemblance. You know, I love more trying
Speaker 2: to break the tension with some very good time teamor yeah,
Speaker 2: I got you gotta love it when Graydon Creed is
Speaker 2: the hates mutants because his father is Sabretooth and he
Speaker 2: appeared actually in the in the original animated seriest Grade
Speaker 2: and Creed season two episode.
Speaker 1: Ten, yep leading the Friends of Humanity.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, because they are nothing but friends of humanity.
Speaker 2: They are you know, high like life. The team gets
Speaker 2: startled when Cornelius, who appears to be the only living
Speaker 2: person in the facility, calmly talks down the team by
Speaker 2: of a very intimidating group of mutants who would be
Speaker 2: very much like to kill him, which seems odd until
Speaker 2: he mentioned the queen. And that's when I started to
Speaker 2: pick up. Uh oh, I think I know where we're
Speaker 2: going with this. Well, we're in a more share a
Speaker 2: look before Sabertooth the death Right argue who's going to
Speaker 2: kill the doctor first?
Speaker 1: The argument gets.
Speaker 2: Mute when he when an alien creature literally emerges in
Speaker 2: morse from Cornelius, and we now they are now in
Speaker 2: a fight for their life. Ladies and gentlemen we now
Speaker 2: have are I think they were hinted at in the anime,
Speaker 2: the original animated series, but this is a first focal
Speaker 2: episode of the Brood, one of the fiercest villains in
Speaker 2: the Marvel universe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a shock to me. I was kind
Speaker 4: of along the lines of our friend Travis Snell, who
Speaker 4: was thinking when he saw the sliced of bodies that
Speaker 4: maybe we would get an X twenty three cameo or
Speaker 4: something along those lines.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they popped out with the Brood. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Bear was right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned into Puck first and then the thing,
Speaker 2: you're right, thank you Bear. So, Brian, what do you
Speaker 2: what do you think about what's been your kind of
Speaker 2: history reading about the Brood or what do you what
Speaker 2: do you know about him?
Speaker 6: I was just gonna raise my hand and say, you
Speaker 6: guys just fill me in real fast on me, because
Speaker 6: I know the Marauders, yeah that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Brood, these alien creatures are basically kind
Speaker 2: of as as David said there, they were modeling after
Speaker 2: kind of the Aliens of that point, because what they
Speaker 2: do is they they have a queen. They're just they're
Speaker 2: conquering species. They're a hive mind, and instead of like
Speaker 2: what they in movies where they you know, cocoon them
Speaker 2: and then get the face hugger and Aaron pops out
Speaker 2: of the chest. Well, they basically infect their their individuals
Speaker 2: and they eventually transform into a brood. And so, as
Speaker 2: mentioned later in the episode, they start figuring out that
Speaker 2: they infect those who are quote unquote the best of
Speaker 2: the best because they take on in particularly with mutants,
Speaker 2: they will take on the abilities of the mutants. So
Speaker 2: that makes him even more formidable at that point.
Speaker 5: So they're separate from like a Nile what Annihilist has.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, completely separate race. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the team escapes, bringing the debate of what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Wolverine says he's never smelled anything like them before. It's
Speaker 2: hard to believe, but the Brewer have never actually crossed
Speaker 2: paths with the X Men in the animated series, is point?
Speaker 1: I think again, I think there were.
Speaker 2: Just sequences that were seeing. You know, they were very
Speaker 2: famous for having these like you know, random cameos, but
Speaker 2: they never faced them. But when Death Strike mentions they're
Speaker 2: not from this planet, Wolverine calls this her second alien
Speaker 2: invasion in a reference to the animated series episode Out
Speaker 2: of the Past, in which Wolverine, Death Strike and the
Speaker 2: X Men duel with the alien known as the Spirit Drinker.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, that was the first episode of.
Speaker 1: The Phoenix Saga.
Speaker 2: I remember that very distinctly because that was a late
Speaker 2: night premiere of that because they were promoting like they
Speaker 2: were going to be doing the Dark Phoenix Saga and
Speaker 2: this was going to be the first episode.
Speaker 1: So I remember that.
Speaker 5: You ever better memory than me. I remember watching them
Speaker 5: like they would come on.
Speaker 6: Besides in the morning they started putting them on after
Speaker 6: school and hurrying home. I think we're playing soccer at
Speaker 6: my friend's house so we could watch The Phoenix again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Baron, she had said, yeah, the Brood, we're
Speaker 2: green in the OG series, definitely upgraded. Yeah, well they're
Speaker 2: more comic accurate now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: They you know, they Wolverne said, we got to go
Speaker 2: deeper into it, and that's when they start questing why
Speaker 2: Wolverine is really wanted to go down there at that.
Speaker 2: But that's why that's when it's basically is kind of obvious,
Speaker 2: saying he was trying to get his Adam management.
Speaker 1: He's not trying to shut anything down. He's trying to
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: So District repeatally refers to morph as Tomo, eventually explaining
Speaker 2: that she is referring referencing a shape shifting fox in
Speaker 2: Japanese folklore. She warns that Morphs blind loyalty to Wolverine
Speaker 2: could get him killed. Save just gets the power back
Speaker 2: on and More finds a series of DVDs.
Speaker 1: Remember it's the nineties, and as.
Speaker 2: He summed through it, we see some very interesting names
Speaker 2: on here, and I was able to kind of write
Speaker 2: them all down. Yeah, I say, I I took I
Speaker 2: paused the TV and took some pictures because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is so good referenced on here, and they had
Speaker 2: to we had to make some assertions with this. We
Speaker 2: have X twenty three Ajax, Aurora, Phantom X, Wolverine, Silver
Speaker 2: Fox X seven. I believe that was gonna be in
Speaker 2: reference to power and it's it's Luke Cage. At that point,
Speaker 2: Cyborg masted on Winter Soldier, Weapon six and Garrison, Kine, Sabertooth,
Speaker 2: Agent Zero, Kimura, Worm, Slugo, and Kestrel.
Speaker 1: A lot of deep cuts.
Speaker 4: With that, yeah, oh, a lot a lot of different ones.
Speaker 4: I believe Weapon six is the one that's Luke Cage.
Speaker 4: He was never officially part of the weapon X program,
Speaker 4: but it Weapon six is what they.
Speaker 1: Used in order to make him.
Speaker 2: All trying to do re replicate the super soldier Seerum
Speaker 2: in different ways, but they play the disc marked eighteen,
Speaker 2: and that is basically we're seeing Cornelius explaining that they've
Speaker 2: been experimenting with the Brood from a crash ship on Earth.
Speaker 2: He explains that the Brood is a hive mind with
Speaker 2: no individual capable of thinking for themselves, making them perfect
Speaker 2: for creating soldiers who cannot think for themselves. Because they
Speaker 2: always were trying to say, you know, the WEAPINEX program,
Speaker 2: the experiments would remove their memories, but they didn't. They
Speaker 2: were just creating monsters. And now, as always, you know, yes,
Speaker 2: screw with science. Science is gonna screw with you back yep,
Speaker 2: And I just loicked it up. Weapon seven is nuke okay,
Speaker 2: nuke okay? So weapon seven is nuke, and so which one?
Speaker 2: Which one was gonna be? Because so seven nuke seven
Speaker 2: s nuke sick is definitely luc.
Speaker 1: Yesh, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So after the video ends, they hear the Brood sneaking
Speaker 2: up on them, and one of them grabs all the more,
Speaker 2: who seemingly tries to take over the mind before death
Speaker 2: strike rips rips it apart. However, after the brief glow
Speaker 2: in Morph's eyes after the alien dies, uh there was
Speaker 2: there a seed planted in his mind, and Morph realizes
Speaker 2: that the brued are looking to breed with superior species,
Speaker 2: which is why they left so many dead bodies. Realizing
Speaker 2: Wolverine is going to be their main target because despite
Speaker 2: Dot had adamantium, he's got incredible senses and his healing factor.
Speaker 2: And Maverick calls over the radio saying their overrun.
Speaker 1: Three of them go looking for Wolverine in Maverick and
Speaker 1: instead find a sedated Omega Red, another villain of Wolverine
Speaker 1: in a stasis chamber. That was that was a surprise
Speaker 1: seeing Omega Red there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that that that pan up that the camera
Speaker 4: did on just the full glory there Omega Red. I
Speaker 4: remember having an Omega Red action figure as a kid.
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2: It had the attachable tentacles coming out the arm like
Speaker 2: that became one of my favorite villains just because he
Speaker 2: looked so damn cool.
Speaker 1: What it's been. I know you've watched the animated series.
Speaker 1: You said, Brian, but.
Speaker 2: Have you gotten any experience with Omega ret outside of
Speaker 2: the m and In series.
Speaker 6: Outside of the animated series. No, but the episode he
Speaker 6: was definitely. He was in one or two episodes in
Speaker 6: the og series and I love that one. And I
Speaker 6: was like, oh my god, they actually gonna let Wolverine
Speaker 6: go off and fight with him, you know, because of
Speaker 6: the standards and practices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, me exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was very It was very like indirect, like a
Speaker 6: little of this, a little of that, and then they
Speaker 6: were in the submarine.
Speaker 1: And mm hmm.
Speaker 2: In that episode, you got love when when Morphs is startled,
Speaker 2: when Maverick comes out, he's yelling out game over. I
Speaker 2: expect you needed to say game over, man, game over.
Speaker 2: A Maverick panics before they hear something else lurking in
Speaker 2: the room. A creature grabs Maverick, pulls him into the
Speaker 2: cloud of smoke before killing him. Maverick, at least you
Speaker 2: had a longer life than you know. Caine, Smoke clears
Speaker 2: to reveal Wolverine transforming into Brude.
Speaker 1: Now this is now.
Speaker 2: This was a great homage to what he The famous
Speaker 2: cover and storyline where Wolverine and the X Men do
Speaker 2: go against the Brood and he is infected. And that
Speaker 2: cover is from Uncanny X Men number two thirty four,
Speaker 2: just spitting image of what he transformed into into, you know,
Speaker 2: animated for him.
Speaker 1: What did you What did you think of that, David?
Speaker 4: I thought it was amazing, Like they had him again
Speaker 4: spot on one to one for that comic book covery
Speaker 4: on his knees, you know, turn head up and everything else,
Speaker 4: and I'm like this, this looks absolutely sick. And when
Speaker 4: they had that reveal, I'm like, all, a damn good
Speaker 4: fight scene is about to occur.
Speaker 2: Yep, And so you can't just have him Lega Red
Speaker 2: in stage this the fight with Wolverine, the Brood and
Speaker 2: all the what remaining cracks open Omega Red breaking them free.
Speaker 2: The villain attacks Wolverine and Morph, who is now being
Speaker 2: transforms into Deadpool, who was also part of the weapon
Speaker 2: Expert at one point pulls his friend of safety. Desk
Speaker 2: Strike and saber Tooth are making their way to the vehicle,
Speaker 2: taking down the Brood as they go through it, and
Speaker 2: you know it'd be interesting to see and they didn't
Speaker 2: really do it, but the Brood infect trying to infect
Speaker 2: Omega Red. Omega Red is dead like he is not
Speaker 2: a living necessarily be so that would be interesting to
Speaker 2: see how that.
Speaker 1: Would have resulted.
Speaker 2: He and saber Tooth begin to fight before the latter
Speaker 2: explains that Wolverine's whole reason for coming down was just
Speaker 2: to get to the Adamantium back, and so Morph excepts
Speaker 2: that Wolverine lied to them, but shifts his argument to
Speaker 2: the fact that they need to stop the brood from
Speaker 2: going out the word and to come up with a
Speaker 2: plane to get Wolverine into the Adamandium Changer, which would
Speaker 2: kill the brood in him and allow him to survive.
Speaker 2: So Morph attempts to lower Wolverine by chamber by becoming Cyclops.
Speaker 2: So David, how does how does he taunt Wolverine.
Speaker 1: In a brood like state?
Speaker 4: And this, you know, as much as I love Cyclops,
Speaker 4: this was a hilarious just the way he took on
Speaker 4: Sydeclops and did his playful nature as only more of can.
Speaker 4: And he's taunting the masculine side of Wolverine like, Oh,
Speaker 4: if you don't come out, then you know everyone's gonna
Speaker 4: think you're weak. And you know what, I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to tell Gene and what I do give her more smooches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, all right, just like Cyclaus, being
Speaker 2: the jerk that he is, he did everything shy of
Speaker 2: the old school elementary you know, put your hands on
Speaker 2: your shoulders and kind of like you're making out with someone.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: It was so childish but so funny.
Speaker 2: And the fact that they use you know, Cyclops is
Speaker 2: the actual voice actor for it, so you know, the
Speaker 2: voice matched. This just hilarious moment, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: like Loki transforming into Steve Rogers in you know, yeah Door. So,
Speaker 2: so the two longtime rivals begin to fight while Death
Speaker 2: Strike fights other brood. Eventually, Morph becomes himself again, tries
Speaker 2: to reason with Wolverine, referencing history with mister Sinister. Wolverine
Speaker 2: hesitates for a brief moment before stabbing Morph. And I
Speaker 2: didn't think that Morph was gonna die. That would have
Speaker 2: been a big kind of uh swing at that point.
Speaker 2: But you know, I appreciate him trying to probably Wolverine
Speaker 2: and be feeling guilty about it. And last did Sheppard.
Speaker 2: He transformed into the Gene, which causes Wolverine to pause.
Speaker 2: Dstrek pounces again, gets Wolverine to the Adamantium chamber to
Speaker 2: begin the infusion process. So Omega Read breaks into the room,
Speaker 2: killing dozens of brood in the process. He attacks dath
Speaker 2: Strike and Morph, who becomes Spider Man to evade the attack.
Speaker 2: So there's your next Spider Man ninety seven reference, of
Speaker 2: which you're never getting a show.
Speaker 5: That I would love that.
Speaker 2: The problem is, and we talked about this last season
Speaker 2: that because Friendly Neighborhood exists, and actually it's a pretty
Speaker 2: good show. I think that was one of our surprises
Speaker 2: of when that season came out, of how good that
Speaker 2: show was. Until Friendly Neighborhood ends, I they will probably
Speaker 2: not do as Spider Man ninety seven. There would be great,
Speaker 2: but I think that they do not want two animated
Speaker 2: shows competing with each other at that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, but it was cool to see Spider Man getting
Speaker 2: a Spider Man transformation, and just in time, Wolverine's infusion
Speaker 2: is complete. He emerges from the tank with adamantm clause
Speaker 2: doing that kind of homage to Wolverine Number one, saying
Speaker 2: I'm back Baby, slices through the brood, turning his attention
Speaker 2: to Mega Red, drops his old flow leaves him his
Speaker 2: team and the buildings about to explode. They get the
Speaker 2: jet and time and they're gonna Nukage for more, but
Speaker 2: the whole, the whole Weapon X goes up and hopefully
Speaker 2: incinerates the Brood. You know, I think this is the
Speaker 2: last we're gonna see the Brood for now. But this,
Speaker 2: this is the alien race that you could bring back
Speaker 2: if they go into space or anything like that. You
Speaker 2: don't need him invading Earth. But it was cool to
Speaker 2: kind of see you know, the Brood here and then
Speaker 2: the tussle with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good choice of, you know, an
Speaker 4: overarching villain for the week that does not disrupt the story.
Speaker 4: So going into the next episode, we can get back
Speaker 4: to where we were with apocalypse and everything else and
Speaker 4: not have this looming well what happened with that guy
Speaker 4: and what happened.
Speaker 2: With this side story? It made it for a nice
Speaker 2: self contained moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: On the jet, Oliver and explains that he needed to
Speaker 2: get his claws back because he's best at being an
Speaker 2: animal with Claus, and Morph tells him that it makes
Speaker 2: him sad to hear because it leaves his friend to
Speaker 2: stare at the as his new clause and see the
Speaker 2: reflection of a killer. Now we've talked about this, you know,
Speaker 2: since you know, the last couple of episodes we've broken
Speaker 2: down and even last season. This is the show that
Speaker 2: is not going to dwell on. They're not going to
Speaker 2: do a whole season, big story arc from the comics.
Speaker 2: They're going to do it one episode typically maybe too
Speaker 2: if we're lucky. Do I wish Wolverine did not have
Speaker 2: his clause for maybe a his adamantium clause for the season?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: I really wish we would have dealt with more of
Speaker 2: what the comics dealt with, and I think they went
Speaker 2: too long with it in the comics. But the idea
Speaker 2: of his animalistic background, that his real mutation was what
Speaker 2: we saw briefly in the future, of what he was
Speaker 2: looking like and why that was coming to be. So
Speaker 2: I understand why do it just to get him back
Speaker 2: to what people like to see, the general audience like
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: But I would have liked to see.
Speaker 2: Him more a little bit going more with him trying
Speaker 2: to deal with only having bone claws.
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you both think of that?
Speaker 4: I thought it would have been better suited as a
Speaker 4: two parter or they did part of this episode than
Speaker 4: part of another episode, the same way where they did
Speaker 4: with Storm in the previous season, where she had a
Speaker 4: chunk of an episode to deal with her stuff, and
Speaker 4: then they brought it back later and had her where
Speaker 4: she you know, regained her powers, just spread it out
Speaker 4: a little bit, not that you know, he immediately knew, Okay,
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 1: To go do this one thing.
Speaker 2: We're going to sacrifice some people, but we're gonna get
Speaker 2: it done, and I'm gonna get my claws back now.
Speaker 6: Me personally, I love an overarching story. You know, I'm
Speaker 6: spoiled since I was a Justice League Unlimited. Yeahs man,
Speaker 6: I'm still a sucker for that. I love that, And
Speaker 6: I love it in TV shows too, where there's a
Speaker 6: through line through each episode and you're like, all right,
Speaker 6: you wait for the PAIOFF. So I wish the same
Speaker 6: thing with the X Men. But I got the same
Speaker 6: impression watching the first three episodes. I'm like, things are
Speaker 6: moving really fast. I don't think they're going to really
Speaker 6: break into like a Fatal Attractions whole storyline go because
Speaker 6: I remember reading or looking through it when I was
Speaker 6: a kid, and those like four issues with the hologram
Speaker 6: on the cover.
Speaker 5: Those were like the hottest things in the whole way
Speaker 5: world at the.
Speaker 1: Time, the nineties skimmick of the comics. I've got that.
Speaker 2: I've got each one of them. They're they're treasured to me.
Speaker 2: I don't care if there worth nothing to anyone else.
Speaker 1: But it was so cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Bear agrees with us make.
Speaker 2: Them devolve for a few more episodes that before bringing
Speaker 2: back to fully Powered by the finale. But you know, again,
Speaker 2: you know, the episode overall it was okay, like it
Speaker 2: was a cool to see these characters at this point,
Speaker 2: and you know, people could say, okay, it was a
Speaker 2: bottle episode.
Speaker 1: Okay, by technical it was.
Speaker 2: It more just advanced Wolverine's plot to get him back
Speaker 2: to where he was. But to what you're saying, David,
Speaker 2: that I think the rest of the season we're not
Speaker 2: going to have any anything. I think this was our
Speaker 2: bottle episode. There may be a chance for one more,
Speaker 2: but I think everything else is going to be relating
Speaker 2: back to the apocalypse storyline with that as well. So
Speaker 2: but we'll see now next week with episode six and
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Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that next week. But we get some.
Speaker 2: Trickle of rumor mills coming out. But first one is
Speaker 2: coming from Deadline that Michael Waldron is developing a Nova
Speaker 2: movie at Marvel Studios. So after rumors started spreading with
Speaker 2: potential Nova project from filming Michael Waldron last week, sources
Speaker 2: now tell Deadline that Chad Powers creator is developing a
Speaker 2: feature film around the comic character at Marvel Studios. Insider
Speaker 2: stress that the project is still in early stages. Of development,
Speaker 2: but that Waldron is on board to pen the script
Speaker 2: with an eye to directing the project if it moves forward.
Speaker 2: The studio has originally been developed in the comic as
Speaker 2: a TV show, with Severe Pizzada penning the script, but
Speaker 2: ultimately shelled the idea in twenty twenty five. Last week,
Speaker 2: the title came up again when Waldron's WGA card was leaked,
Speaker 2: with the project being listed as a credit, leading to
Speaker 2: the reveal that Waldron had been brought on to tackle
Speaker 2: a new pitch. So Nova is a character that one
Speaker 2: Beard in nineteen seventy six and Superadventures was a member
Speaker 2: of the Intergalactic Police noticed as the Nova Corp, for
Speaker 2: which he gained superhuman abilities and increased in strength, flight,
Speaker 2: and resistance injury. While the character didn't have many run
Speaker 2: ins with some of the main figures of current or
Speaker 2: past MCU, he did get some battles with the Scrolls,
Speaker 2: who have been major parts of the Marvel product not
Speaker 2: in really good projects, and as you know, Michael Waldrin
Speaker 2: has strong test to Marvel, going back to penning the
Speaker 2: hit Doctor Strange sequel Doctor Strange in Multi Verse of Madness.
Speaker 2: He also was a showrunner for Marvel's biggest TV show,
Speaker 2: low Ki, So Nova's always been this one. You know,
Speaker 2: we've seen the Nova Core in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 2: We have as deadline talks about this has been kicked
Speaker 2: around a little bit as a TV show. I'm very
Speaker 2: surprised that because, like they said in twenty last year,
Speaker 2: this was shelved like this was very publicly about the
Speaker 2: whole kind of Okay, we're going to be refocusing on
Speaker 2: proven properties that it's been fun experimenting at this point,
Speaker 2: but it has improven either in viewership, money, things like that.
Speaker 2: So we thought the Nova project is dead. So to
Speaker 2: hear it coming back not as a TV show, but
Speaker 2: Michael Waldron Penny a script and if it moves forward
Speaker 2: more than.
Speaker 1: Likely directing it. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Now we have two maina Nova characters that are mainly
Speaker 2: known in the comics. We have Sam Alexander and Richard Ryder.
Speaker 2: Without having a idea of which direction to go, let's
Speaker 2: just go around the horn right now and kind of
Speaker 2: see what you both think about, like the idea of
Speaker 2: a Nova Core, a Nova centric movie, because that's what
Speaker 2: we're getting. It's not a TV show anymore, it's a movie.
Speaker 2: So what do y'all think about that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. I know our friend Burnt is
Speaker 1: excited to see Nova.
Speaker 4: I I would like to know, like if they're going
Speaker 4: the Sam route or the Richard Rider route, because I
Speaker 4: believe that if you go to Richard Rider route then
Speaker 4: you have to get someone in their early thirties or
Speaker 4: so it's just no, we can't do you know, everyone's
Speaker 4: Golden Boy Glenn Pass starring in another movie, you know.
Speaker 4: But and if they go Sam Alexander, then you can
Speaker 4: go a little bit younger with that the person that
Speaker 4: when this first this broke a couple of days ago,
Speaker 4: I had someone in mind who was part of a
Speaker 4: different movie franchise, and I was like, Okay, I hope
Speaker 4: they get another shot. But now we also just got
Speaker 4: news then very next day that that person's coming back
Speaker 4: as a superhero as well. So now that's out the
Speaker 4: question for me of who would be Sam Alexander. But again,
Speaker 4: if you do that route, you get the more high
Speaker 4: school to early twenties route with Sam Alexander. So I
Speaker 4: think that there's more stories that they could do with
Speaker 4: Richard Ryder. But I also think that if they decide
Speaker 4: to go to Sam Route there it could be more
Speaker 4: relatable and more tie into some other superhero properties that
Speaker 4: they've got possibly in the works.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Brian, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Nova becoming a movie?
Speaker 6: So Richard Ryder, that's who I'm I've warmed up to
Speaker 6: reading Annihilation in the midst of that, and I know
Speaker 6: he's in conquest a bit. That was one of the
Speaker 6: things that I thought that they fumbled in with the
Speaker 6: Guardians when they introduced and the uh, you know, the Novercoords, they.
Speaker 5: Didn't actually branch off to another movie.
Speaker 6: For him, because I think that could have been really
Speaker 6: cool when you know, when Infinity War started and they
Speaker 6: had already conquered uh that planet, the Novercore planet, what
Speaker 6: was it in?
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, wow, that's in Thrising, So I
Speaker 6: guess there's no uh, there's no no records in in
Speaker 6: this universe yet, Like I would have much rather have
Speaker 6: seen him introduced than out of Warlock.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of us.
Speaker 2: That was even James Gunn I think regret he said,
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't do a post credit scene that
Speaker 2: forced me to introduce a character, and then I really
Speaker 2: wish it he didn't make him a joke.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: Wardlock is a top tier A list character, but definitely
Speaker 2: did not get the treatment as is. But yeah, it'll
Speaker 2: be interesting to see if a because like that, Like
Speaker 2: we've said before many times on the show, just because
Speaker 2: a thing is early development does not make it a
Speaker 2: sure thing. There are tons of projects and how thousands
Speaker 2: of projects that are in early development and never see
Speaker 2: the light of day, and you just hear, you hear
Speaker 2: the stories about this was the thing for a time
Speaker 2: and it never happened. So it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: kind of the backstory because as Zandar is gone, he
Speaker 2: would be you know, as he is and has been
Speaker 2: for a while in the comics. He is the last Nova.
Speaker 2: He is, he is the world mind, He is everything
Speaker 2: that is Novacore.
Speaker 1: So bears vote.
Speaker 2: He wants it to be Sam very badly to make
Speaker 2: a younger Avengers roster, even though I would love a
Speaker 2: Richard movie, especially if it leads to annihil. A. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Annihilation would be a cool idea to bring
Speaker 2: to the screen, especially involving the Fantastic Four as well.
Speaker 2: So we'll see about that, see what comes up again.
Speaker 2: Michael Waldron Loki Multiverse of Madness. You know, we is
Speaker 2: definitely a proven pedigree, and for a time he was
Speaker 2: writing I don't know if he was writing Doomsday or
Speaker 2: super Wars at that point, but he was tied to
Speaker 2: writing one of those before that project shifted. So next,
Speaker 2: our final store for the even final news store for
Speaker 2: the evening is Avengers Doomsday tickets to go on sale
Speaker 2: next week. Runtime has been revealed at least the initial runtime.
Speaker 2: So the domestic sales for Avengers Doomsday, a Hollywood reporter
Speaker 2: has learned, will go on sale July twentieth. Studio will
Speaker 2: open ticket sales five months early for only It's not
Speaker 2: gonna be wide.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be for theaters that have.
Speaker 2: The Infinity Vision screens because it is their large formatsignation.
Speaker 2: Because as we have talked about, Avengers Doomsday does not
Speaker 2: get IMAX screens until January at the earliest because Dune
Speaker 2: has locked those down, which is wondering why, you know,
Speaker 2: that's some big money they're missing out on. So they
Speaker 2: have created Infinity Vision, so whatever the heck that is.
Speaker 2: So those those will be the specific tickets that will
Speaker 2: be going on sale right now.
Speaker 1: So that's about you know.
Speaker 2: I had to look up which I luckily have a
Speaker 2: theater nearby that is not when I usually go to,
Speaker 2: but to see it, you know, to get the tickets
Speaker 2: for this one. Yeah, I'll probably tempted to do it,
Speaker 2: but the ticket sale has come with the runtime, at
Speaker 2: least right now. The run time as of right now
Speaker 2: is two hours and forty five minutes, not in final cut.
Speaker 2: The film has not been locked, so changes could occur,
Speaker 2: but selling tickets on a set schedule means that the
Speaker 2: film's runtime can only change by a very small margin.
Speaker 2: So at one hundred and sixty five minutes, the film
Speaker 2: would be longer than Infinity War, which is one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty nine minutes, but shorter than Endgame, which is
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty one minutes. Disney will also offer
Speaker 2: Infinity Vision tickets for the re released of Endgame on
Speaker 2: September twenty fifth, titled Avengers Endgame Encore.
Speaker 1: That's awful.
Speaker 2: That's an awful title if I've ever heard one. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize they titled it like that. That's terrible. And
Speaker 2: Endgame is the second highest grossing movie of all time
Speaker 2: at two point eight billion dollars globally, coming just behind
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine Avatar. Marvel has declined to comment
Speaker 2: on this officially, but as we've said, Marvel is returning
Speaker 2: to Hall H, probably obviously promoting Doomsday and some other things.
Speaker 2: So question for you all, are you going to jump
Speaker 2: on tickets for this Infinity Vision when they were supposedly
Speaker 2: released next week? And what do you think about this
Speaker 2: close to close to understanding of this rap time, I
Speaker 2: mean this runtime.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump tickets. I looked it up.
Speaker 4: You know, you and I were talking the other night
Speaker 4: and I looked up. So it's it's about five minutes
Speaker 4: from me of a theater. It's not my normal theater
Speaker 4: that I go to. I'm an AMC A List member,
Speaker 4: so I prefer to go to AMC theaters, but this
Speaker 4: one is closer to me. My thing is normally Brent
Speaker 4: and I go to these movies together. So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to convince Brent to come out my way because
Speaker 4: the theater that we normally go to is literally two
Speaker 4: minutes from his house. And now he's gonna be the
Speaker 4: one making the drive. Man up, Man up, Friend up,
Speaker 4: Let go.
Speaker 2: So I will get the tickets Brent. If you just
Speaker 2: show yourself on my side of town.
Speaker 1: There you go. It calls been out at that point.
Speaker 1: What about you, Brian, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: Dave?
Speaker 6: Are you gonna be like hey, walk in and be
Speaker 6: like hey, do you all have the the.
Speaker 1: The the Infinity Vision?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Look at you? Like what? Or I this is
Speaker 5: the first I heard of the.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So Kevin fig come out of kill. It
Speaker 2: was a couple of months ago. I can't remember where
Speaker 2: it was at specifically, maybe it was CinemaCon that he
Speaker 2: put out this idea that they're going to be in
Speaker 2: this Infinity Vision and this is to counter not being
Speaker 2: an Imax screens until January.
Speaker 6: Do you do you guys really think that they'll hold
Speaker 6: that date as opposed to just move in a few
Speaker 6: weeks later for.
Speaker 1: Uh, that they're gonna they're gonna hold it. They're holding it.
Speaker 2: It's it's too far down the pipeline of marketing.
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna hold it. They they had a chance.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: There was a time when it was coming out that
Speaker 2: they lost Imax screens that they weren't going to get
Speaker 2: until January. There was that possibility. Now as the point
Speaker 2: of no return. I think this is a game of chicken,
Speaker 2: and I think in the yes as that are there
Speaker 2: across fan bases with Dune and Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: However, I think Avengers leans more that you're not gonna
Speaker 2: take your family to Doune, let's be honest, June three,
Speaker 2: I don't see that being especially around Christmas. Sign that's
Speaker 2: not the movie families are going to go see. Necessarily,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get. You're not gonna get the kids
Speaker 2: going to see that. I think that's where I think
Speaker 2: the slight edge goes to Avengers. But it is still
Speaker 2: a gamble because that is tickets lost in sense of
Speaker 2: sales that they may not get. So it's going to
Speaker 2: be very very interesting to see when this goes down
Speaker 2: at that point, and it will probably see exactly whether
Speaker 2: Avengers gets to a billion at that point. You comment
Speaker 2: in the chat saying, still a large run time for
Speaker 2: a series of movie premiere remember back when we were
Speaker 2: kids and just getting a full length feature film with
Speaker 2: a big deal.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but so.
Speaker 2: It's not Imax, it's whatever this Infinity vision is. Does
Speaker 2: this tempt you to get tickets right now?
Speaker 6: So for me, no, And I'm a type guy even
Speaker 6: when Infinity War came out an endgame, I didn't pre
Speaker 6: order the tickets.
Speaker 5: I just, you know, like when they went on sale.
Speaker 6: Like, oh, they're going until right now, and then everybody
Speaker 6: jumps in the queue. I would just you know, get
Speaker 6: my fan dango up and be like, all right, I'll
Speaker 6: see in the movie in like eight more days, nine
Speaker 6: more days, and let me deserve the ibags or whatever.
Speaker 6: So I'm really curious to see how this shakes out,
Speaker 6: because going head to head with Dune, you know, Dune
Speaker 6: is more present on everybody's hearts and minds, especially with
Speaker 6: the nosedive Marble tucks, So this will be fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely gonna be interesting. Bear says, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do to the fact that he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: theater near him that has his Infinity Vision.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I haven't even heard of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like, I'm gonna be curious to see
Speaker 2: a if this is true. I mean, it's deadline, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of basically an a tier. If they're putting
Speaker 2: it out there that they they've gotten word, it's it's
Speaker 2: pretty close to being true.
Speaker 6: Did they mentioned what theater's Chris? Did they say like, hey,
Speaker 6: Regal and AMC will have it.
Speaker 2: Or no, they just said because for me it's an
Speaker 2: AMC theater. I don't usually go to that AMC theater
Speaker 2: for many reasons of like where it is.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily it's.
Speaker 2: In them all that eh doesn't have the best track
Speaker 2: record when it comes to safety. But I go to
Speaker 2: a Regal theater, so it's not at that theater. I'll
Speaker 2: have to go to the AMC theater for that. So
Speaker 2: I will see exactly A if the tickets do go
Speaker 2: and say on the twentieth and B how much is
Speaker 2: it going to cost, Like if we're talking like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: No, sorry, I'll I'll wait.
Speaker 2: I'll wait till official tickets and I'll go to my
Speaker 2: Regal theater and get it for a discount. So I'll
Speaker 2: be very interested to see what this Infinity Vision is
Speaker 2: going to cost for the point of entry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, according to their website, there are seventy five certified
Speaker 4: Infinity Vision theaters in the US and even globally seventy five.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's small. That's really really small.
Speaker 4: So they they may be just banking on the fact
Speaker 4: that people don't care about the the Infinity Vision versus
Speaker 4: the Imax, and they're gonna just see it regardless. Because
Speaker 4: when it comes to Imax versus like the true Imax,
Speaker 4: there are a lot less that are the true Imax
Speaker 4: theaters and those that just say that they you can
Speaker 4: view it in Imax format versus ones that are like
Speaker 4: the true Imax theater. So it may be a situation
Speaker 4: where you know, they're just banking that people don't care
Speaker 4: enough about that, or they're going to see it regardless.
Speaker 4: Kid smashing saying, but how will my children learn about
Speaker 4: mankind shaking its more mortal form and achieving in humanism
Speaker 4: if I don't take them to see Doude Messiah. You
Speaker 4: bring up a very valid point, and I are I
Speaker 4: like the humor on that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is usually when you get a
Speaker 2: ticket release like this, are we getting a trailer?
Speaker 1: If it's July twenty, that is before.
Speaker 2: San Diego Comic Com begins, and I think we're all
Speaker 2: expecting there to be some sort of trailer at San
Speaker 2: Diego coma Com for Doomsday, the first official trailer that
Speaker 2: hopefully will not just be in San Diego that they
Speaker 2: were released later so we have someone to.
Speaker 1: Break down and talk about. But I don't I be.
Speaker 2: Very surprised if they do put a trailer out with
Speaker 2: these tickets or a. I could see them doing like
Speaker 2: a very tease for San Diego, a small little snippet
Speaker 2: of a you know, a true teaser, like thirty seconds
Speaker 2: to say these tickets are now on sale. I do
Speaker 2: not see a full trailer going. I think they're going
Speaker 2: to say that for San Diego. I think it would
Speaker 2: be a huge misstep if they put a full trailer
Speaker 2: up before San Diego.
Speaker 6: Well what about the runtime, you guys see that's enough
Speaker 6: time for all those characters, because that makes me think
Speaker 6: like maybe they'll have the X Men die off from
Speaker 6: the first like twenty minutes of the movie.
Speaker 1: Or Oh, I don't think you're wrong in that. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong in that.
Speaker 6: It's like, then how do you include everybody and pick
Speaker 6: it up? Though they did great in my opinion, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's the whole game.
Speaker 4: I think unless you're having major mid movie emotional beats,
Speaker 4: then you can get away with it. Because like Infinity War,
Speaker 4: it it had its moments, but it's it's big moment.
Speaker 4: The talk about moment comes at the end, so it
Speaker 4: didn't need that length, where Endgame had twenty years of
Speaker 4: we got to tie this up.
Speaker 2: We got to tie this up. We have to set
Speaker 2: this up for the next phase. We have to do
Speaker 2: this and then still have that big emotional climax in there,
Speaker 2: and then the long ass ending of it, because you know,
Speaker 2: you got to do the nods to all the actors
Speaker 2: with the signatures and everything.
Speaker 4: So you know, start to finish. Yes, in Game needed
Speaker 4: longer in order to tell its story.
Speaker 1: I think that can.
Speaker 4: Considering that there is going to be Doomsday and then
Speaker 4: there is going to be secret wars and they're already
Speaker 4: forward planning, I think they can fit it in within
Speaker 4: this runtime.
Speaker 2: And I'll Kevin Fagy said something I won't say right
Speaker 2: now because it is definitely a big it's a spoiler
Speaker 2: for a character and their presence in doomsday.
Speaker 1: How big of a.
Speaker 2: Presence they're going to be. I take it back in
Speaker 2: it'scuna be a brand new day and their presence leading
Speaker 2: into doomsday, how big of a character they're going to
Speaker 2: be in a presence in there.
Speaker 1: I think with.
Speaker 2: What they're going to be doing with Doomsday and making
Speaker 2: sure understanding what it is. We have not seen Doom
Speaker 2: outside of a end credit scene in Fantastic four. We
Speaker 2: haven't even seen dooms fay if you've seen it more
Speaker 2: in marketing and things like that.
Speaker 1: But Kevin Figgy did say that.
Speaker 2: They will excas the Russo's that we're saying that there
Speaker 2: will be an explanation for why Doctor Doom has Tony
Speaker 2: looks like Tony Stark. There will be an explanation that
Speaker 2: will be clear. So we have to take him at
Speaker 2: face value. I'll trust you. I'll trust the Russo brothers
Speaker 2: in a sense when it comes to the Marvel movies
Speaker 2: because they they do. They have proven them so great
Speaker 2: work outside of Marvel that's very mixed bag at that point.
Speaker 2: So but again they not just because we have a show.
Speaker 2: We're gonna break this down. I'm very curious. Doctor June
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite villains of all time in Marvel.
Speaker 2: So let's let's bring it on.
Speaker 5: What about what about your excitement level? Like what in
Speaker 5: the height of Infinity.
Speaker 6: War in the endgame, Like I was right there, I
Speaker 6: was so geeked, Like I'm interested and I'm intrigued, but
Speaker 6: I'm more excited for Doom, whereas this is kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll go see you when it comes out, But I'm
Speaker 6: not like, oh my god, I need to go see it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in the theater wearing Cyclops advisors.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 5: I want to see he's gonna have.
Speaker 1: Leg belts and everything.
Speaker 2: I've won the visor on the show before. I may
Speaker 2: go for the cosplay. I'm just saying it might happen,
Speaker 2: just even if they are killed within the first act.
Speaker 1: Pre Psycholops caused the destruction of the.
Speaker 4: X Will that we saw from the little teaser trailer
Speaker 4: of The X Men. Combined that seeing that on the
Speaker 4: big screen, I'm just here for it. I'm here for
Speaker 4: that drop down Jan Knees shoot the optic blast into
Speaker 4: this guy.
Speaker 1: Put it in my veins.
Speaker 2: Yes, for me, I'm a very passive Dune fan. Like
Speaker 2: I've never read the books. I mean, I could say
Speaker 2: that a lot of things, but like I've never read
Speaker 2: the books, I've the movies. They're they're made like Danny
Speaker 2: belle Neuve, amazing director, cinematography great, the acting is great
Speaker 2: in it. But I've never had a strong connection to
Speaker 2: these series as as much so my to answer your
Speaker 2: question about excitement in comparison to it's an apples and
Speaker 2: oranges kind of thing. So Avengers went down in that
Speaker 2: to answer you in the sense of kind of what
Speaker 2: you just said, Like Infinity War Endgame, you were all in.
Speaker 2: That's because they did a good job building towards this moment.
Speaker 2: In what they did this one, it is not the
Speaker 2: same hype level. It is more curiosity and how are
Speaker 2: they going to land this rickety plane that was Phases four, five,
Speaker 2: and six. To bring it in for a conclusion, it
Speaker 2: will not be a satisfying conclusion. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 2: going to blow up an explode. I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be a conclusion to to say these movies.
Speaker 1: Were good, like I hope both of them are good.
Speaker 2: When I say, I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a satisfying conclusion four phases four or five and six
Speaker 2: because it hasn't been a good Phase four or five
Speaker 2: and six.
Speaker 1: It has been very disjointed. There are some.
Speaker 2: Really really great highs and there are some hard hitting
Speaker 2: lessons that they they are taking to learn that I
Speaker 2: hope that they that they move forward with the next
Speaker 2: the next stage, which will be the mutant saga.
Speaker 1: So go X Men.
Speaker 5: So but can I raise one more thing? Yeahs the
Speaker 5: X Men.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Did you guys see I saw it on an X
Speaker 6: earlier I think it was today Larry Houston came out
Speaker 6: and said that X Men ninety seven. He said, we're
Speaker 6: we think we can run it between five and nine seasons,
Speaker 6: for five and ten seasons.
Speaker 5: Did you guys see that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen it.
Speaker 2: It's it's one of those that because Brad Windenbaum has
Speaker 2: said that the idea also they want one season to
Speaker 2: come out every single year. That will be great, but
Speaker 2: we also know animation has a lot of moving parts
Speaker 2: to it that that make that's very It's hard to
Speaker 2: do if you are not hitting the ground ahead of time.
Speaker 6: Sure, but my my concern, let me know if you
Speaker 6: guys agree or or disagree. I'm concerned that they're going
Speaker 6: to do what they did to the Earth's mightiest heroes
Speaker 6: and be like, all right, this is good, but now
Speaker 6: we've got to bring it into the cinematic universe and
Speaker 6: have it looked like what's on the screen again, and
Speaker 6: then it goes from like X Men ninety seven to
Speaker 6: like X Men X. You know, newtant Saga twenty seven
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 2: I I have faith in Kevin Figi right now because
Speaker 2: he was there in the beginning of The X Men,
Speaker 2: because he was on he was part of the original
Speaker 2: movies at that point when they were first coming in.
Speaker 2: And I think if we've all kind of talked about
Speaker 2: it in the idea that if Kevin Figi is getting
Speaker 2: ready to eventually retire from Marvel Studios as being the
Speaker 2: head of Marvelo Studios. He's never hinted at that, but
Speaker 2: you know, I think we're seeing the writing on the wall.
Speaker 2: I think of all the things he wants to bring
Speaker 2: in and put his stamp on before he leaves, it's
Speaker 2: going to the X Men. I have faith that of
Speaker 2: all the properties that are getting ready to happen, this
Speaker 2: is one that he is going to take very special
Speaker 2: interest to. And I think that I have faith they're
Speaker 2: going to do it right and do it with justice.
Speaker 1: So I have.
Speaker 5: Including the cartoon or just.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think they're going to keep
Speaker 2: them separate, and I think that's where they should be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Bo de Mayo, you know, like last year
Speaker 6: he made it like fig was so jealous of the
Speaker 6: success they were having and we don't.
Speaker 1: Listen to anything.
Speaker 2: I think, I think there's some what I'll say about
Speaker 2: b Tomeo's this, I think that they're with everything. I
Speaker 2: don't believe everything that he's saying, nor do I believe
Speaker 2: everything that the studio is saying and has put out.
Speaker 2: I think there's some truth on both sides and some
Speaker 2: things that were wrong on both sides. Not in the room,
Speaker 2: not being a lawyer in the room at that point,
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be very interesting to
Speaker 2: see whenever this lawsuit gets settled, how it's going to
Speaker 2: be and what eventually comes out. But I BO has
Speaker 2: a right to stand on like what he was in
Speaker 2: doing in the room and how much he I mean,
Speaker 2: we can't deny, I mean the studio can't deny him
Speaker 2: in the sense of like what he was responsible for.
Speaker 2: And we've already seen his name attached to a couple
Speaker 2: of the episodes at that point for writing.
Speaker 1: So I it's just I always.
Speaker 2: Have red flags come up when you are very much
Speaker 2: becoming very grandiose.
Speaker 1: In certain things.
Speaker 2: Are how much truth is that or how much tooting
Speaker 2: of your own horn.
Speaker 1: Is exaggeration versus the truth?
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not saying everyone's got to be humble about
Speaker 2: certain things, you know it. Don't hate the player, hate
Speaker 2: the game. But sometimes, as I'll take a line from
Speaker 2: the show Hamilton, there's somebody to be said about talking
Speaker 2: less small more. There are times for being grandiose, and
Speaker 2: there are times to say like, hey, I did this,
Speaker 2: there's ways to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't like how much he's doing it in a
Speaker 1: certain way. He's not been out there as much this season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very much. Yeah much.
Speaker 2: He has moments, but I think there were times last
Speaker 2: season where he did a good job of putting certain
Speaker 2: things out there, and there were times like, uh, I
Speaker 2: get they've wronged you, but it's also not a good look.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I just I just hope that, you know, egos don't
Speaker 6: get in the way and they try to cancel it
Speaker 6: and bring it into like what's in the movies, because
Speaker 6: x N ninety seven is so enjoyable, it's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that. I think they're going to
Speaker 2: keep them separate and just to keep it like that.
Speaker 2: So but all right, So that is all the news
Speaker 2: we got for this week. So we're going to take
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Speaker 2: listener question, we had one come in this week, So David,
Speaker 2: why didn't you put the question into the chat?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: So question from Phil Barker. Do you think X twenty
Speaker 4: three is likely to be introduced after the events of
Speaker 4: this episode?
Speaker 1: What do y'all think?
Speaker 4: I am gonna say, yes, I think that we will
Speaker 4: have some form of introduction of X twenty three. I
Speaker 4: don't know if we're going to get like a full
Speaker 4: moment or just a cameo as part of a setup
Speaker 4: for an ongoing into next season. But I think the
Speaker 4: events of him getting his Adamantium back, we will get
Speaker 4: X twenty three.
Speaker 6: I see like I think that maybe Morph will transform
Speaker 6: into Laura and you know X twenty three, and you'll
Speaker 6: get a hint at her maybe like in that way,
Speaker 6: and it'll spark like, oh, that that did happen when
Speaker 6: they actually do introduce it, but I don't know if
Speaker 6: they're going to do.
Speaker 5: It this season.
Speaker 2: I think X twenty three would be great kind of
Speaker 2: with the idea that I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: happen this season, but I think they've done a very
Speaker 2: good job of trying of bringing in fan favorite characters.
Speaker 2: And yes, even though X twenty three didn't get introduced
Speaker 2: until much later as coming in.
Speaker 1: From well, it was Wolverine and the X and X
Speaker 1: Men evolution.
Speaker 2: I can't remember which one she was introduced into, and
Speaker 2: they got brought into the comics when a very not
Speaker 2: not so very good introduction at that point. We'll leave
Speaker 2: it at that. But the character itself I think is
Speaker 2: worthy of being the introduction. So but hey, I'm here
Speaker 2: for Sex twenty.
Speaker 1: Three at level ORKINNY. So yeah, but it was evolution.
Speaker 1: Thank you, drogo.
Speaker 2: All right, so let us move on to Factor fiction. So, uh,
Speaker 2: mister NS and I forgot to thank mister Hines for
Speaker 2: stepping in for me last week when I was on vacation.
Speaker 2: So thank you Travis for stepping in for me last week.
Speaker 2: These were from him. Factor Fiction number one Wolverine will
Speaker 2: get as Adamantium skeleton back in the next two seasons
Speaker 2: of X Men ninety seven. Eighty nine percent said fact,
Speaker 2: eleven percent said fiction. I think we all are not
Speaker 2: even gonna put it to you, Brian on what you stand.
Speaker 1: We just we just went over that.
Speaker 2: So number two, Magneto will return in X Men ninety seven,
Speaker 2: eighty eight percent said fact, twelve percent said fiction. What
Speaker 2: do you think Magneto is gone? Magneto has been killed
Speaker 2: by apocalypse? Will he return in any future of.
Speaker 1: X Men ninety seven? I say yes, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so we get a.
Speaker 2: Fact, yeah, all right, last one, we will get another
Speaker 2: Avengers cameo in this season of X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 2: So we had Black Widow and Captain America show up
Speaker 2: in the last episode at the end. Will we get others?
Speaker 2: Ninety one percent said fact, nine percent said fiction. What
Speaker 2: do you think Brian Wire getting another quick Avengers cameo
Speaker 2: this season?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: And I loved how all the nerds geeked out on
Speaker 6: that from that cover.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that's a very miscover.
Speaker 2: So all right, David, what do you got for us
Speaker 2: this week for your factor fictions? Okay, so one of
Speaker 2: them is actually, uh, it came to me as I
Speaker 2: was reading the notes and reading about the the nova
Speaker 2: coming out, and I made a joke earlier, and my
Speaker 2: joke does lead to my fact of fiction, and that
Speaker 2: is Hollywood's favorite current semi young actor, Glenn Powell, will
Speaker 2: appear within one of the next three Marvel movies.
Speaker 1: I made a joke about earlier.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling he's one of those people who
Speaker 4: they're like, we got to get him in here somehow,
Speaker 4: some way.
Speaker 5: What do you think, Brian, Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 5: high probability. You know, DC's had their chance to cast
Speaker 5: him as Booster Gold. We've all seen those rumors in
Speaker 5: the past couple of years.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I could definitely see that, probably within the
Speaker 6: next even shorter time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think so I could see that.
Speaker 2: I mean I could see it. I mean just because
Speaker 2: he's he's the end thing. I I don't know what
Speaker 2: we could I mean there there are obviously certain ideas
Speaker 2: at that point, but we'll just see. Because I I
Speaker 2: think it was him. I really do think it was
Speaker 2: him that I see. Now I'm stepping on back because
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about interviews that he's done and he
Speaker 2: has been very much on record that these these franchises
Speaker 2: don't interest him and so but when you say that,
Speaker 2: you say that, and a lot of times it just
Speaker 2: takes the right script, the right person, things like that.
Speaker 2: I mean again, he very famously when he auditioned for
Speaker 2: to be Goose Goose's son and Topgun Maverick, he didn't
Speaker 2: get it, and he was offered the part he was
Speaker 2: offered and actually walked away from it because he was
Speaker 2: very much he didn't feel it and took Tom Cruise
Speaker 2: come and note this. I think you're gonna be great
Speaker 2: in this. I think this is why this is what
Speaker 2: more of this character than you think. And it kind
Speaker 2: of put him on the map at that point. So
Speaker 2: he says that now I respect it. He does not
Speaker 2: care for getting into DC and Marvel and these kind
Speaker 2: of big franchises at this point.
Speaker 1: But you never know. So I'm gonna say fiction for
Speaker 1: right now, but never say never.
Speaker 5: That's easy, that's that's easy to say. Yeah, yeah, money
Speaker 5: talks and everything else walks, right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I have a feeling the right if if
Speaker 4: they offer him a lead character, like a someone who
Speaker 4: is who is going to be a central figure and
Speaker 4: not just they throw away.
Speaker 1: I I think we will see him.
Speaker 5: Glenn Powell is, hey, there.
Speaker 1: We go, So all right, what's the next one? All right?
Speaker 4: My next one is And this ties into our post
Speaker 4: credits as well. An X Men actor will be officially
Speaker 4: announced at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 2: Man, We've had like a lot of these kind of
Speaker 2: aroundabout in some ways that it might might be a
Speaker 2: repeat of a Factor fiction or something like that, or
Speaker 2: or changeover. So all right, do you think, Brian, are
Speaker 2: we going to get an X Men announcement of any
Speaker 2: cast member officially at San Diego Comic Con?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: I'll be a controller to say no.
Speaker 2: I do not think we're I don't think we're the
Speaker 2: reason I've said this is I've said this before a
Speaker 2: couple of times in.
Speaker 1: The show that I do not think the X Men where.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna they will wait till next year
Speaker 2: because I think they want to really kind of separate
Speaker 2: the whole idea, especially if the Fox era of X
Speaker 2: Men is gonna be introduced, is gonna be their quote
Speaker 2: unquote swan song. I'm not saying they're all gonna be
Speaker 2: wiped out and now gonna have any presence in Secret Wars,
Speaker 2: but the fact that the movie has not even been
Speaker 2: it hasn't been finished written yet. We have a director,
Speaker 2: we have a writer and team. At that point, we're
Speaker 2: not even close to that. If it is believed that
Speaker 2: Sadie Sink is a X Men character, if you're looking
Speaker 2: at chat you can see what the the rumor is.
Speaker 2: I won't count that as an official announcement. I think
Speaker 2: what you're saying is David is someone beyond that character
Speaker 2: that Sadie Sinc is linked to. I think you're looking
Speaker 2: for more or of a different like here's your cyclops,
Speaker 2: here's your professor X something like that. I think that
Speaker 2: is more of a possibility for next year San Diego
Speaker 2: coom versus this year. I think it is all doomsday
Speaker 2: this year. I do not think we're gonna get any
Speaker 2: official announcement for X Men right now.
Speaker 4: I feel with the current rumors floating around, we might
Speaker 4: just get that.
Speaker 2: Person's official announcement. But I don't see like I don't
Speaker 2: see any of the X Men proper. I could see
Speaker 2: a villain announcement rather than the actual lineup of the
Speaker 2: X Men.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, well, we'll love to see, we'll wait. We'll
Speaker 1: have a week to wait. So all right, what's your
Speaker 1: last one?
Speaker 2: Okay, so, speaking of X Men, both Charles and Magneto
Speaker 2: will die in Doomsday.
Speaker 1: So one more time we's dying. Both Charles and Magneto
Speaker 1: will die in Doomsday.
Speaker 4: This is the official, Sir Patrick, Sir Ian, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: sorry about it, but here's your official.
Speaker 2: Goodbye, dead dead for died a lot, not getting his
Speaker 2: next snapped in an alternate dream reality type deal or
Speaker 2: anything else like this is dead dead or not getting
Speaker 2: blown away but then later revealed that his consciousness is
Speaker 2: in someone else's body.
Speaker 1: We're not doing it. This is dead dead, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Brian, What do you think are we seeing the
Speaker 2: final end of those two characters?
Speaker 6: I think those two actors, but I think they're going
Speaker 6: to do something wacky with the cosmic cub or something,
Speaker 6: and someone else is going to be cuss. But definitely
Speaker 6: those two actors are signing on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I could see one of them not making it
Speaker 2: to Secret Wars.
Speaker 1: I don't see both of them not making it to
Speaker 1: Secret Wars. I think they're there.
Speaker 2: There's something to be said, because then it just especially
Speaker 2: with Professor X, it just comes off of as me worthy,
Speaker 2: It's like, oh great, he's dead again. Sure, you know,
Speaker 2: I think it would be more surprising if he if
Speaker 2: of all the two of the two Professor X does
Speaker 2: make it out of Doomsday and will be present in
Speaker 2: Secret Wars. You know, I think that'll be the more
Speaker 2: jokingly shocked.
Speaker 5: So man Man asked a quick question, remember what was it?
Speaker 5: Was it at the end of the Wolverine when.
Speaker 6: You know he he wakes up and all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: everybody's alive again, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that was a day of future past.
Speaker 6: Ever explained how they came back to life, because I
Speaker 6: remember being so pissed when I watched X three. I've
Speaker 6: only watched that one time.
Speaker 1: I think it's just because that.
Speaker 2: Tommy wymye they didn't get mystique Mystique captured and did
Speaker 2: the whole Nimrod thing at that point. So, yeah, the
Speaker 2: looseness of as David said, Tommy Wyman, Wibbley wobbly x
Speaker 2: men cannon is all over the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's not like I missed I missed the connection.
Speaker 2: No, And I think from what we're either hearing or
Speaker 2: what we kind of theorized to I think that this
Speaker 2: these X Men are from that kind of days of
Speaker 2: future past, kind of recorrection of the timeline. So all right,
Speaker 2: so I will put those out there on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2: We have some people weighing actually in the chat about
Speaker 2: some of the factor of fixtions. Uh. Yes, too early
Speaker 2: to recast Marvel Studios and Kevin fig should not go
Speaker 2: doing what James Gun did when he came to recasting
Speaker 2: characters like he did in DC. I think as far
Speaker 2: as live action goes, they will wait wait for the
Speaker 2: ten year mark to announce the reboot of Live Action
Speaker 2: X Men.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Live Action X Men. That's that's happening
Speaker 1: that they they is happening.
Speaker 4: They he verified that not only in recent various announcements,
Speaker 4: but it also after the Marvels where they have the
Speaker 4: scene with beasts coming back like it. It's been verified
Speaker 4: they the Mutants saga is.
Speaker 1: Going to be a thing.
Speaker 2: That is also why people are so heavy on the
Speaker 2: Sadie Sinkish Gene Gray thing, and that's where that's going
Speaker 2: to be our tie in, our jump in and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: And they've done other.
Speaker 2: Things to reintroduce the mutants. So it's it's going to
Speaker 2: be a thing, and Hugh Jackman will be here until
Speaker 2: he's ninety ninety yep, and the last one in three
Speaker 2: universes are going to merge together in Doomsday, the MCU,
Speaker 2: the Fantastic four Universe, and the x MEUNI yeap, hey,
Speaker 2: anything can happen. So but all right, so that will
Speaker 2: have those posted on Sunday afternoons to let your voice
Speaker 2: be heard with that, And Brian, I know you didn't
Speaker 2: read this, so you're welcome to kind of stick around
Speaker 2: and hang. At that point, we are going into compook
Speaker 2: club for we're looking at the Other from Amazing from
Speaker 2: Spider Man way back when We're looking at Other Part
Speaker 2: two Marvel Knight Spider Man number nineteen. So, David, why
Speaker 2: don't you kind of break it down? This is a
Speaker 2: Mary Jane very specific comic.
Speaker 4: That, yes, this is This is told from the majority
Speaker 4: of Mary Jane's perspective, and it starts off with her
Speaker 4: reading the newspaper. As we saw in the last issue,
Speaker 4: uh Peter accidentally attacked Ja Jonah Jameson's limo while chasing
Speaker 4: down the tracer. So now you know it's she's sitting
Speaker 4: at one of her stage shows and she's trying to
Speaker 4: figure out, you know, why is Peter doing the way
Speaker 4: he's doing, Why is he acting the way he's acting?
Speaker 4: And then we get a flashback to her playing pool
Speaker 4: with Captain America. And I do think that there was
Speaker 4: a funny line in here that that doesn't get expounded
Speaker 4: on much afterwards. But you know, when she's asked him
Speaker 4: why does he do the things that she does? Ask
Speaker 4: him if he's seen a musical, The Man of le
Speaker 4: Mancha and it's about Don Quixote, and he says, I'm
Speaker 4: not much for musical and she says, I guess that
Speaker 4: proves you're straight, and he just stops. He goes, how
Speaker 4: does that prove? And she just quickly moves on. I'm like, so,
Speaker 4: is there rumors in the Avengers mansion? Like, is is
Speaker 4: someone out here wondering? Like because they don't see him womanizing?
Speaker 4: What's going on? But that was a funny moment.
Speaker 2: That that was a very I thought it was cringe
Speaker 2: worthy back then. I'm kind of surprised being at Peter
Speaker 2: David saying that I was writing that, I was kind
Speaker 2: of surprised that that line was sad.
Speaker 4: It it comes it comes out of nowhere, and there's
Speaker 4: there's no expounding on her reasoning for thinking this like
Speaker 4: this do others. It's never been hinted at or you
Speaker 4: never heard anyone joking about it. It's just a random
Speaker 4: throwaway line. And it is funny to me that they
Speaker 4: just threw this in there without any excellent a shouldn't
Speaker 4: then just skip right over it afterwards?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, but yeah, no, I I as a whole you know,
Speaker 2: you have Morland kind of lurking in the background, kind
Speaker 2: of like almost at some points protecting Mary Jane as
Speaker 2: getting like people trying.
Speaker 1: To go after her at that point.
Speaker 2: But it is interesting seeing the from her perspective of
Speaker 2: dealing with Peter's you know, going after the villains, you know,
Speaker 2: iron Man suit getting taken over and he's having to
Speaker 2: fight him and things like that. But how she's ends
Speaker 2: up saving the bar from being.
Speaker 1: You know, shot up.
Speaker 2: It was okay, but all in all, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the end of the issue being that the revelation that
Speaker 2: he's he has we still don't know what, but something
Speaker 2: is affecting him and his abilities and may he may
Speaker 2: be dying, and that's kind of how we end So hopefully,
Speaker 2: I hope that part three will pick up a little bit,
Speaker 2: because this one was just kind of a meh it.
Speaker 1: It was very much mad.
Speaker 2: I think the crowning moment of this would be either
Speaker 2: her bar fight or her talking to Peter and saying that,
Speaker 2: you know, she's figured out the reason that he does
Speaker 2: what he does is because of his guilt of Uncle Ben,
Speaker 2: and she feels like he just wants to die and
Speaker 2: be with him. And that's when Peter says, Nope, I
Speaker 2: don't want that at all. In fact, I'm scared of
Speaker 2: death and shows her the paper that he has from
Speaker 2: doctor Castillo, where we don't know what it says. We
Speaker 2: just know that they have a moment and you know,
Speaker 2: they embrace, and that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: Are the end of the issue? I do so.
Speaker 4: Next we are going into Amazing Spider Man issue five
Speaker 4: twenty five for part three of the other the Evolver Die.
Speaker 2: Yes, so all right, so we will get into that
Speaker 2: next and you know volume eight three or four in
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Speaker 2: joining us this week. Really really appreciate it and you're time,
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Speaker 2: All right, guys. Post credits discussion tonight talking about X men,
Speaker 2: the rumor mills, the castings, everything. It kind of lit
Speaker 2: up this week, starting with scuber madness. Again, these are
Speaker 2: anything can happen. People can be throwing stuff at the wall,
Speaker 2: trying to get trying to get traction or clicks, anything
Speaker 2: like that. But it's worth worth kind of discussing and
Speaker 2: hearing thoughts. So Scooper my time to shine. Hello, put
Speaker 2: out there that Scoop. We have our first casting for
Speaker 2: the MCU x ME and reboots. Sources have told her
Speaker 2: or him whoever they are that Adam Driver has been
Speaker 2: cast as a villain other Scooper apocalypt Horseman came followed
Speaker 2: this up by saying I can actually corroborate this.
Speaker 1: He's playing Magneto.
Speaker 2: But then later a couple of hours ago he she
Speaker 2: or they have come back on that one saying that
Speaker 2: they were wrong.
Speaker 1: It is actually mister Sinister.
Speaker 2: A few literally hour after that, NeXT's point News has
Speaker 2: now called an exclusive saying that sources have told their
Speaker 2: sources have said Adam Driver is a villain and it
Speaker 2: was playing who was it bully?
Speaker 1: Was it trask? No? Why is it escaping me right now?
Speaker 1: But it's it's not trash William.
Speaker 2: Striker, WILLIAMS Striker, that'sho it was. I couldn't remember it
Speaker 2: top by it so William Striker. All right, So we'll
Speaker 2: get back to Adam Driver. But here are some of
Speaker 2: the other casting also. Uh. They were saying that Bill
Speaker 2: Scar's Guard is in talks to possibly be considered for
Speaker 2: Professor X among a handful of actors. They're aiming to
Speaker 2: cast a young per a younger actor for Professor X.
Speaker 2: Cooper Hoffman is in the mix for Cyclops, but not
Speaker 2: the only choice. So any of these things if you
Speaker 2: want to, we can focus on Driver whatever. Like Adam Driver,
Speaker 2: the most consistent thing we can say is two things
Speaker 2: one and talks to be a villain of some sort,
Speaker 2: whether it be Magneto Sinister Striker. I think Williams Striker
Speaker 2: is the most boring choice for for an actor like
Speaker 2: Adam Driver. I think he is much more can be
Speaker 2: done like that. And this also points to the rumors
Speaker 2: before Fantastic Forecasting he was in the running and talked
Speaker 2: about a lot for being in the running for mister Fantastic. However,
Speaker 2: they could not agree to the money terms and so
Speaker 2: that is why he walked away from that along with
Speaker 2: Margot Robbie. So he's back in this one. So being
Speaker 2: a villain, which one is it? Don't know what do
Speaker 2: y'all think about this these ideas? Who would you like
Speaker 2: to see Adam Driver any of these choices or another
Speaker 2: villain stands out to that he could take on.
Speaker 1: If I had to.
Speaker 4: Go between these choices, it would definitely be sinister for me.
Speaker 4: I think that he his voices Cadence would be great
Speaker 4: for that as well as you know, if they decide
Speaker 4: to do something where they alter the face, you know,
Speaker 4: for the white skin and everything else.
Speaker 2: He he is very good with emoting, with his voice
Speaker 2: and with his mannerisms, and so I think that that
Speaker 2: would be a good pick. When I heard Magneto at
Speaker 2: one point, I wasn't totally against it, but I also
Speaker 2: wasn't for it.
Speaker 4: Like I said, Adam Drivers is a great actor. But
Speaker 4: I also think that man, the gravity of the Magneto
Speaker 4: role is you either need to have someone who is young,
Speaker 4: and you need to have someone who is young and
Speaker 4: hungry to prove themselves, or you need to have someone
Speaker 4: who is confident enough that can just be like, look,
Speaker 4: I'm just coming here to do what I gotta do.
Speaker 4: I don't give a damn what the public says. I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people were also mad when this
Speaker 4: came out because they're like, well, he's not Jewish. I'm like,
Speaker 4: neither has the last two actress been. Michael Fastbender wasn't certain,
Speaker 4: McKellen wasn't so, and they both did phenomenal jobs. So
Speaker 4: I don't think that is a prerequisite as long as
Speaker 4: you honor the heritage of Magneto.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Brian?
Speaker 6: I second everything you said, Dave, but especially the part
Speaker 6: of him being a good mister Sinister. He could bring
Speaker 6: some of that Kylo rend energy to that. I think
Speaker 6: it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had Droga in the chats, and yeah Sinistor
Speaker 2: makes more sense. But what if he's the blah Well,
Speaker 2: that'd be interesting too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I I when I first heard him out, the rumors
Speaker 2: had been for a while Mister Sinister before a Driver
Speaker 2: was kind of hinted towards this. The rumor for mister
Speaker 2: Sinister would be the first villain of the new X
Speaker 2: Men at that point, which would be very interesting being
Speaker 2: that Jean Gray and Cyclist being focal points of the
Speaker 2: team as well.
Speaker 1: I love original Sinistre.
Speaker 2: I also love Sassy Sinister that was introduced in the
Speaker 2: Kurcoa era of X Men. I think he could go
Speaker 2: both with this and find some balance. But like you said,
Speaker 2: how he carries himself as an actor, but also his
Speaker 2: voice is Kadence, things like that.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be great as Sinister. Magneto good.
Speaker 2: I think it's okay if we step away from Magneto
Speaker 2: at least for the first film and do something a
Speaker 2: little different. If if Kevin Figy is all about making
Speaker 2: a not doing the same old, same old that we've seen,
Speaker 2: especially after we're seeing Goodbye to Ian McKellen's portrayal of
Speaker 2: the character of Magneto. I think we can safely put
Speaker 2: Magneto off for at least one film as being a
Speaker 2: focal point, maybe being in it, but not being the
Speaker 2: focal point. I don't know, but yeah, let's see Adam
Speaker 2: Driver being mister sinister.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: And as mister Snell put in our group chat a
Speaker 2: bit ago, saying that this proves one thing that wherever
Speaker 2: the Scoopers are getting these things, Disney's doing some let's
Speaker 2: just throw stuff out there to see what gains traction,
Speaker 2: to just mess with everyone in say like, you guys
Speaker 2: have no idea what we're gonna do. Maybe one of
Speaker 2: you got it right, but some of you are gotting
Speaker 2: it very off base.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I like Nexus Point News. They have a good track record.
Speaker 2: I think this one. I don't know if I would
Speaker 2: have put this one out there just because I think
Speaker 2: it's the one that people are like.
Speaker 1: That doesn't get anyone excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do see a scenario where Marvel is purposely
Speaker 4: flooding with fake news in order to kind of hide
Speaker 4: somewhere in the middle of that, what's really going on.
Speaker 4: If you got five or six things to speculate on,
Speaker 4: then it's easier to sneak past something that might be happening.
Speaker 2: But all right, well, we will see what happens when
Speaker 2: any of these rumors. We'll be back at you next
Speaker 2: week for episode six of X Men ninety seven as
Speaker 2: we march towards Comic Con, and we hope you have
Speaker 2: a good weekend ahead and a good week as well,
Speaker 2: and catch y'all later.
Speaker 1: Bye bye, see, So we're off