WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see, something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:19.960 What what's going to happen? I think, what's. 3 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.480 Up everybody? It is another headless is magical empty mail 4 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.920 bag with my body and neck. So we decided, since uh, 5 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:38.240 there's no new experiences in the mail we're gonna give 6 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.039 one of ours. So uh, we'll go through our symbols 7 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:45.039 and then we'll get to it. So, you know, what's 8 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.679 kind of interesting. You know, really muted. I think I 9 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:49.520 can't hear you. 10 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.280 Oh no, I know I'm not muted. Good. Oh fun? 11 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.079 Nothing really that's that's gonna be a problem. 12 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:56.679 Maybe it's me. 13 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.200 Yeah, I don't know. I mean I could kind of 14 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:01.320 leave and come back this thing. 15 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:08.159 Yeah, I think it's me. Let me change my settings 16 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:09.760 real quick. Wow. 17 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:11.439 This is what happens to people when you go live 18 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.280 unfortunately sometimes. But as I was going to say, I said, 19 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:16.719 list is trying to fix this thing. I think like 20 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:18.359 one of the first shows we did, I was actually 21 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.680 supposed to get my experience and never got to it. 22 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.599 So I hear you, yeah, yeah, yeah. 23 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.000 What I was saying is I think I was owning 24 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.560 an experience anyway, from like one of the first shows 25 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.200 we did. I think we said we're gonna I was 26 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:30.480 going to talk about one of mine, and then we 27 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:32.480 never did it, so I guess I owe it anyway. 28 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:42.200 Yeah. Yeah, So first off, we got the triscalion, and 29 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:45.079 everybody should know this symbol. It's one of the oldest 30 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.519 symbols in the whole world. So this was that New Grange. 31 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:55.799 They think it's fifty thousand years old. Oh so this 32 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.920 has the idea of like body, soul, spirit, the whole 33 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.159 whole kind of trinity thing you can imagine, is put 34 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:08.520 into this triscalion symbol. It's it's used all over the 35 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:13.639 place in ancient Greek. They decided that it would be 36 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.000 better as legs since you get the feeling of motion 37 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:20.800 from the triscalion, so they referred to Sicily as the 38 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:28.120 triscale and they put what's that? 39 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.000 No, no, what you're saying. I was just like, yeah, 40 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.240 that's right, definitely. We were talking about that recently. Yeah, 41 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.759 the three legs. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 42 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:36.560 Let me see if I can pull up the flag 43 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:37.319 of Sicily here. 44 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:41.400 Yeah, you got Sicily and what's the other country? Uh, 45 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:43.080 there's two of them that have that guy on that 46 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:44.960 of course. 47 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:49.000 Not well format, but yeah, Sicily and the Isle of 48 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:52.280 Man both have the triscalion, and they don't try to 49 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.960 make any lakes between Sicily and the Isle of Man, 50 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.960 which is weird. It's like they just decided they liked it. 51 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.639 I think that's funny about some of these motifs that 52 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.080 keep repeating over and over again through time, is that 53 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.360 there's a definite continuity there, and if they actually looked 54 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:11.159 at that continuity might reveal something about the nature of 55 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.039 these things. But since nobody's actually trying to put the 56 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.560 pieces together between the Isle of Man, which has these 57 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.719 three night legs, and Sicily, which has the three legs 58 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:27.639 and the face of Medusa, yeah, there should be kind 59 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:32.319 of something linking these up, right. What are your theories? 60 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:33.960 I think it has something to do with the water 61 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:35.960 this image. 62 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.280 Yeah, waters. I would even wonder like maybe a little 63 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:41.840 bit of like I don't know so much about the 64 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:47.560 Fibonacci sequence, but I do wonder about like I know 65 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.560 I've said myself, I think gravity sometimes or downward spiral, 66 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.520 upward spile, something showing some sort of type of energy. 67 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:59.159 But yeah, it's interesting. I didn't think about it when 68 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:00.879 you first mentioned it. But to go back to the 69 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.039 triscalion thing, this is really a. I would wonder if 70 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.319 they're both showing the same thing, and then if there 71 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.439 is this pre swastika. A lot of people think that 72 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:12.639 it's pre swastika. 73 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:16.000 I think the Nazis sort of cantidate that forty five 74 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.519 degree angle to give it more of the feel of motion, 75 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.120 kind of like the triscalae. They were all about going 76 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:26.839 back to the original kind of symbols because they figured 77 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.199 that had more power in the minds of the people 78 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.920 who saw it. You know, So picking the swastika, picking 79 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.759 the triscale, any of these like really really old symbols 80 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.720 would get people's attention and have them moving in a 81 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.079 certain direction. And again, it's like that motion here on 82 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:47.199 earth that is kind of spiritually motivated, you know. So 83 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.639 you got the body, soul, and spirit. You know, you 84 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:54.680 got the three alchemical principles, which would be the salt, sulfur, 85 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.720 and mercury. They got Father, son, Holy Spirit. You got 86 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:04.399 you know, Ma and woman and Son, you know, Osiris, 87 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:08.720 Horus and isis all these trinities you know. 88 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.160 Yeah, I was even saying before I totally forgot when 89 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:12.639 you asked me my opinion on it. I had said 90 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.000 earlier before the shows, like even the supernal triad, which 91 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.360 I would even say putting the water as a symbol. 92 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.959 Like even people are saying in the chat that would 93 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:22.959 you know, I was saying, I wonder if the supernal 94 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.199 triad came from this, because you know it's kind of 95 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:32.560 the waters the abyss. There's three of them. 96 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.319 Right, And there is a form of the yin yan, 97 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.600 the yingyang symbol that has three in it, and that's 98 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.079 also called the triscalae as well, so they're all sort 99 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.879 of pointed towards the middle. And we've also got the 100 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.439 vulk nut, which is the three triangles that are inside 101 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:51.639 of each other. So these sort of triple symbols all 102 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:56.240 have something to do with the interaction between matter, energy 103 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:57.519 and the spirit. I think. 104 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.399 So you know what I see people saying in chat, 105 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.120 and I don't think you said it already. Maybe you 106 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:04.839 did and somehow I didn't hear it, But they're talking 107 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.800 about like the triple goddess and KTE you mentioned the 108 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.720 medusa head in the middle with the trescallions, and now 109 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.040 I'm like, yeah, could that be like. 110 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:16.839 A interesting Well, Heckuta is a very potent symbol of 111 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:21.680 three ways. It said that you if you bring an 112 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:27.439 offering to a three way crossing, right, So the devil, 113 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:29.240 if you're making a deal with the devil, you've got 114 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.000 to bring it to a four way crossing. But to Hecita, 115 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.879 it's got to be a three way. So if you're 116 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:37.560 looking into. 117 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:43.240 That, she takes a lot to get it convinced. 118 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.160 Oh god, right, just take out one of the roads 119 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:52.279 and then listen out listen for those those dogs because. 120 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:56.120 Yeah, yo, that was another thing. Remember when the dogs 121 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.079 always in pairs of three two, aren't they? 122 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:01.240 Yeah? 123 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.720 And what I do like about this symbol too, to 124 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.759 even tie it into more like kabbalistic like in my opinion, 125 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.639 the first top three they kind of even if you're 126 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.399 gonna go one, two, three, I think they all have 127 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.879 a relationship somehow, and you're seeing that with them all 128 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:17.639 connected in this. 129 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:23.040 Right, they're they're inseparable at the top, yes, down below 130 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.399 they're not, you know, I mean they kind of flow 131 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.360 into each other, but there's different paths. This is to 132 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:29.959 try completely unbroken. 133 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.120 Yeah, yeah, I had no idea. This is fifty old, 134 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:39.199 fifty thousand years oldest. That's it's impressive. 135 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.079 Well, you know how they date things, you can never 136 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:43.800 really trust it. 137 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.839 Oh, no, but still, I mean even if it's you know, 138 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.959 I mean it's an old at shit symbol. I mean, 139 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.279 how many times you've seen spirals and petroglyphs petri right, Well. 140 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.279 That's the thing. I mean, it went from all those 141 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.560 forms of spirals into this form of spiral, and it's 142 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:02.399 like it's the completion. But yeah, there's all these spirals 143 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.639 at the petroglyphs, and usually it's matched up with the sun, 144 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:10.000 or with the U or with the equinoxes something like that. 145 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.560 There's always the spiral associated with the petroglyphs that are, 146 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.920 you know, pointing to the equinoxes. 147 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:24.639 You got people in here even saying now the three muses, uh, consciousness, 148 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:31.519 matter and energy, past president future. It's interesting. Yes, indeed, 149 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.000 so somebody did. Somebody did say, I don't know what 150 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.039 they mean. I don't know what EP means by taking 151 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.519 my mailbox over. I mean, just you got people sending 152 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.559 you crazy message. I mean, you know stories that we 153 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:45.639 can use. Sure it's almost not sending them to us, 154 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.279 but I don't know what that means. And we did 155 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:49.840 have somebody I'm. 156 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.960 Putting the email there too. It's so weird, like I thought, 157 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.000 it'd be an easy email to remember. 158 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.080 No, I'm not like trying to break either, but the 159 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:00.960 amount of people listen to my show, it's like, Yo, 160 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:02.799 not one of you you can fucking send in an 161 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.360 email like Jesus Christ is thousands and thousands of you. 162 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.559 Was like, fuck's sake, someone, right. 163 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.399 I think they just forget the email because you know, 164 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.279 the word hadless is in it, and the word hadless 165 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.440 makes people forget for some reason. Yo. 166 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.360 You know what's interesting though, To tell you the truth, 167 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.279 I think I actually have him the Occult Research Institute. 168 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.679 I actually do think it wasn't for this show, but 169 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:25.360 I think there was one or two people that sent 170 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.879 me weird shit in there that I could probably actually 171 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:28.480 take you. 172 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:29.720 Yeah. 173 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:31.600 I was just thinking about that because I hadn't checked 174 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.200 the Occult Research Institute email and probably like months, and 175 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:36.840 I opened it up and there was just tons of 176 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:37.960 shit in there, and I was like, oh, I got 177 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:39.720 people like sending Yeah. I think there was a couple 178 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.919 of stories in there, but like old yeah, say if 179 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.440 I can pull them out, Yeah, we'll check that out. 180 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.759 So here's your symbol. Hell yeah, yes, today we got 181 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.480 this is a little bit of all the one uh 182 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.919 not as all as tidlesses, but you know I was trying. Uh. 183 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.759 This one goes back to twelve twenty five. This is 184 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:02.039 called the Son of Noss the Great. I do find 185 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.480 it interesting, you know, as we'll see it can be 186 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.000 put on gold. But you know, the sun normally is 187 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.399 associated with six squares and the moon is normally associated 188 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.200 with nine. So but this is associated with the sun. 189 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.679 It supposedly came from the book. Please you know, remind 190 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.039 me trying to pronounce the shit. It's Arabic Sham's al 191 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:27.039 mah Araf al kubrah Uh. And that was done by 192 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.519 Ahmad Abin Ali Abunai, which I'm pretty sure I think 193 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.039 Lisa actually covered him on the cole Rejecks a while ago. Yeah. 194 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:39.440 It was written in a Yubid era Egypt between twelve 195 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.759 hundred and twelve twenty five see by the Sufi scholar 196 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:48.279 mage Ahmad Albuni. His uh surviving autograph is lost, but 197 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.320 dozens of the thirteenth to the fifteenth century manuscripts still exist, 198 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:58.600 so odds are around thirteen hundreds bike correct. For the structure. 199 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.120 This book comes in the four books and it teaches 200 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:07.000 UH like letter mysticism and Quranic magic squares and planetary hours. 201 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.480 You know, hence the planetary square decigil is a nine 202 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.440 by nine magic square. Who's rose and columns and diagonals 203 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:18.039 all equal. That's like something too to mention with these squares. 204 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:19.840 I'm sure I've mentioned on the cole rejecs. I'm gonna 205 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.399 mention it here. You know, they all all those lines 206 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.519 are supposed to like keep adding up to the same number, 207 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.240 and this one you will get a total of three 208 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.279 sixty nine at the end of everything. So I mentioned that, Umm, 209 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.279 it is supposedly again in ms is I'm not ever 210 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.360 gonna try to pronounce that same thing. The classical use 211 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.000 of the thirteen hundreds casting the talisman, you would copy 212 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.200 the square on gold during the sun's hour on a 213 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.120 Sunday when the sun is dignified or Leo is rising preferred, 214 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.519 there would be an invocation. You would write the nineteenth 215 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:59.120 a letter uh Quranic Osmolah would write this letter three 216 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.879 hundred and six the nine times and then the solar 217 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:08.679 divine name yard Ner or o Light while while basically 218 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:18.759 burning tons of saffron and frankinsense what you're getting expensive, Yeah, sulffumulgating. 219 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:20.720 I fucked that word up, but that's what it said. 220 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.440 The powers that a you're getting out of what you're 221 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.320 getting out of this supposedly kingship, honor, bodily, health, and 222 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:30.000 liberation from fear. It causes princes to favor the bearer 223 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.720 and furnishes of an invulnerable armor of light. The placement. 224 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.240 It's only sewn into a cap, or it's engraved on 225 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:41.039 a ring or hung over the doorway of a treasury. 226 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:47.720 Ottoman court workshops copied the square onto talismanic shirts for Sultans, 227 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:55.679 the Maghribi whoever marabouts etched it on lead drinking bowls 228 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.440 for healing, and the Hasa and the Yoruba healers still 229 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:05.519 painted on on ruggia boards rinsed in medicinal water. You 230 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.200 do see it show up in sixteen eighty on an 231 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:12.480 Ottoman silver mirrorback. It bears the square amid the seven seals. 232 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.519 It shows up again in talismanic like I said, with 233 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:23.440 the Sultans in sixteen ten. Yeah again. It was first 234 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:26.399 created in Egypt around twelve to twelve twenty five. It 235 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.679 is absorbs the soul of light. It's in for authority. 236 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:33.399 Health and protection. The Ottomans used it and the you 237 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.440 know it's been used for Sufi medicine and the Yeah, 238 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.480 I think that's about it for that's enough enough. Oh, 239 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:41.919 let me just go through some of the pictures and 240 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.360 show you more. If you want to say something, he listen. Yeah, absolutely, 241 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.440 that would see. That one is interesting because it's not 242 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:53.279 the nine by nine. There's another version of it on 243 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:58.919 I guess gold how all this this was some reason 244 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:00.080 came up when I looked at up. 245 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:07.559 But yeah, nice, it was really uh kind of reminiscent. 246 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:14.120 Uh knock you. Yeah, I don't know how many squares, 247 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.720 but like, uh, let me see if I can found it. 248 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.480 There's so many tables in an Oki and it's just amazing. 249 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:37.879 John Doe's showsting. There's the dm ams right sigillum amth 250 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:45.759 dam and then there's the big one look for her 251 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.200 and you know it goes by, it goes by all 252 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:56.080 of Do you think the vanishing Ritual of the Pentagram 253 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:01.919 is older than or younger than Anaki? Yeah? John d Ooh, 254 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:06.480 I don't know. 255 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.120 I know some people have uh actually I think John 256 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:14.240 de might have fuck I don't know, may have been 257 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.039 John d because I know some people have. I think 258 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.000 some people I know could be wrong, but they kind 259 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.279 of thought that Albert Pike might have kind of influenced 260 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:28.919 the Pentagram ritual. The Golden Dawn was known for doing 261 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.320 the Pentagram ritual and the Hexagram ritual. Those were kind 262 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.279 of their things. So maybe, if you want to, obviously 263 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.080 they might have pulled that from somewhere earlier, but if 264 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.279 you look at when they started, it was after John 265 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.919 Dee right. 266 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.799 Well, in the Enochian tablets, there's the cross down the middle, 267 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:47.639 and then there's a cross that way, and then you've 268 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:49.679 got the four elements and each one of the four 269 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:53.399 elements have their own angelic interpretations. I keep looking for it, 270 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:59.120 but I can't find it whatever. Anyways, But yeah, it's 271 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.879 it's a modic square that's broken down into more magical squares, 272 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.399 broken down into more magical squares, and in some sense, 273 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.440 I get the feeling of like, you know, three D rendering, right, 274 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.559 So you need all of these different squares built on 275 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.799 like the sounds and these you know, incantations, so that 276 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.600 you can get the three D model, you know, And 277 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.240 so it's sort of like building itself in the process 278 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.320 of you doing the magic, So you know, who's really 279 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.000 getting used. I think it's kind of a toss up. 280 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.399 Yeah, So. 281 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:42.559 I wanted to bring up my experience with the Amityville Horror. 282 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.519 So a lot of the people have probably seen the movies. 283 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:51.960 Really interesting stuff. I got a original printing of the 284 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.840 Amityville Horror back when I was a kid, back in 285 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.639 high school, and my dad's friend said that his cousin 286 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.759 knew the da Fayos, and so I gave him the 287 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.000 book and he signed it in there, talking about Ronnie D. 288 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.799 Fayo and how you know, he was a troubled kid 289 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.720 and all the rest of this stuff. And then, you know, 290 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:18.599 promptly lost the book. But it's kind of interesting that, 291 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.079 you know, somebody would actually sign this book because you know, 292 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.839 the murders that took place there were pretty horrific, you know, 293 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.319 and that was before the Amityville Horror thing where they're 294 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:29.839 being you know, chased by ghosts and stuff and having 295 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.759 the walls bleed. But that whole Ronnie D Fayo angle 296 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.319 was kind of interesting. And later on I met a 297 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.240 dude who actually went to the Amityville House and this 298 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.480 is what he told me. He said that when he 299 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.119 got back to his house. He was just like overcome 300 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.559 with this this sickness, right, he had to go to 301 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:53.279 the hospital, and then the CDC was called in because 302 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.799 it had certain characteristics that they hadn't seen before, and 303 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.759 so they were pumping him full of experimental drugs and 304 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.640 apparently like they were concerned that whatever he had was 305 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:09.680 going to go and become infectious. Wow, and he wasn't 306 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:12.079 sick before he went to the Amityville house, and they 307 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.359 couldn't really identify what he had, So I thought that 308 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:16.319 was kind of interesting. 309 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:19.160 Yeah, especially like you know, I don't know what to 310 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:21.119 think about it. But sometimes they talk about like either 311 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:25.240 like like pultageist or even demonic possessions or whatever possessions. 312 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.240 Sometimes people will get sick or like exhibit like something 313 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:31.119 wrong with their skin or their body, like you know, 314 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.720 almost like lesions. Yeah, bad reactions put it that way. 315 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:34.880 You know. 316 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.359 Interesting, you know, it's not something healthy, you know healthy 317 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:39.319 that you want put it down. 318 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.680 Well, I mean, is there really even a difference between 319 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.039 demons and parasites, you know, other than the physicality, you know, 320 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.480 but they're basically the same thing. They do the same thing. 321 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.319 They just feed off of you. So for them to 322 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.240 be causing illness that that doesn't surprise me, especially given 323 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.359 that it's only recently that we've started associating sickness is 324 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.960 with germs instead of demons, because usually that's what they 325 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.680 attributed the sickness to. It's a bad spirit has come 326 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.200 over them, you know. And it's interesting the way they 327 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.720 talk about medicine in the book The Golden Ass by 328 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:19.559 a Police which second century. They would always ascribe different 329 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:25.000 illnesses to the the gods that would be associated with 330 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:28.720 the symptoms, right, and so that's how they would classify 331 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:33.599 illnesses back then. Oh wow, So I'm not sure what 332 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.400 that that pig? You know? Do you remember the pig 333 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.480 in the in the movie, like the imaginary friend turned 334 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.440 into a massive pig. Well, I imagine that pig is 335 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.759 probably something pretty horrible to come down with. 336 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:53.480 All right, nice, nice, all right? 337 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:53.880 Uh. 338 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.240 Yeah, So I had a story that I think I 339 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.480 was offering to tell a long time ago, probably like 340 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:02.039 I said, the first the second show be Uh, it 341 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.440 was a weird experience that I had in my house. 342 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:08.000 As you know, I think I was in my teens. Yeah, 343 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:12.279 it was definitely at least sixteen seventeen. I will preface 344 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.640 this right away. I wasn't high, so you can't even 345 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:20.039 say that, uh I was I at this point. At 346 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.400 one point when I was younger, my grandfather was going 347 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.720 to move into the house with us, and my father 348 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.319 redid the whole basement for my grandfather turned around and say, 349 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:31.640 I changed my mind. So we had a whole finished basement, 350 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:33.240 and he was like, I guess if you want to 351 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:34.599 take it, you can go down there if you want, 352 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:36.200 you know. And I was like playing the guitar and 353 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:37.799 I was sudden to get into like, you know, bands, 354 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.240 and he's like, you know, go down there. It is 355 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.039 just better if you want to fucking kick and bring 356 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.319 his trums over and leave him there with them. So 357 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:45.079 it just worked out for me. So like now I'm 358 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.440 in the basement that I always thought, honestly was creepy 359 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:49.000 as fucking my house. Anyway, it was like it was 360 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:50.759 like one of those basements I've admitted. It's like as 361 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.200 I was walking up the stairs, I'm looking behind me, 362 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.720 thinking something's gonna grant, but it told me, you know, 363 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:55.880 this is fucking weird, like something's creepy's looking at you. 364 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:57.759 I used to hate that feeling. 365 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.640 Now I love yeah, yeah, you have to talk oppositely. Now, 366 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:02.200 I'm like, is this something? Now, let me see, let 367 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:07.759 me find out, motherfucker. Uh So yeah. So like I'm 368 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:10.279 down there and one night I think I'm just like going, 369 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.480 I'm laying in bed, you know, I'm going to bed, 370 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.000 and you know, sometimes my father will like come downstairs. 371 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:18.079 You know, no, you know, normal parent. I guess you know, 372 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:19.720 need the bust your chops. I want to remind you 373 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.599 about something, just annoy about some dumb shit. And I 374 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:24.839 can hear footsteps coming. I'm like, oh fuck, he comes 375 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.240 my fucking father. Fuck sakes, It's like late, I don't 376 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.960 want to hear shit. And I just hear the steps 377 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.880 and then nothing, and I'm like, oh, maybe I'm like 378 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.319 hearing shit. And then like I think, I hear it 379 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:37.160 again and I'm like, yo, what the fuck? And like nothing, 380 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.279 You're just like you hear the steps end and that's it, 381 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.160 and I'm like, nobody's there. And then I started hearing 382 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.839 it again. I'm like, yo, what the fuck? So I 383 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.440 get up and I literally go upstairs and I'm like yo, Dad, 384 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:49.920 and he's like I woke him up. And I was 385 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:51.319 like He's like, what is the problem. I was like, oh, 386 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.200 I said, I actually thought you were like coming down 387 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:54.680 up and down the stairs. I was gonna ask you, like, 388 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:56.279 what the fuck are you doing. I thought he might 389 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:57.799 have been fucking with me. It's some shit. I don't know. 390 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.559 It just didn't make any sense. So he he was sleeping. 391 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.599 I go back to my bed. I hear it again, 392 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.480 and I'm like, yo, what the fuck. So now I 393 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.480 hear it again and like at the top of the stairs, 394 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.720 like it kind of ends like on a I don't 395 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:14.359 think there was a carpet right away, still like a 396 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.799 whatever type of floor. Then eventually the carpet kicked in. 397 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.160 I would hear the footsteps come down the steps, and 398 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.920 then it started sounding like floop parents like something stepping 399 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.400 on the rug getting close to my bed. But then 400 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.599 I'll like stop halfway and I was like, yo, what 401 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:33.000