Speaker 1: Okay, we're liveing.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: This is William Ramsey. Thank you for joining us on
Speaker 1: William Ramsey Investigats On tonight's show. I have a very
Speaker 1: special guest. His name is doctor Eric T. Carlstrom, and
Speaker 1: he was the former emeritus professor of geography at California
Speaker 1: State University, Stanislaus. But I reached out to him because
Speaker 1: of my interest in the subject of gang Stocking and
Speaker 1: I know that he had talked about it, and you'll
Speaker 1: see his website if you're on YouTube right now. He
Speaker 1: has this one page title gang Stocking Mind Controlling Colts.
Speaker 1: And what brought it kind of brought it to my
Speaker 1: attention was after reading an article about what happened in
Speaker 1: East Germany, and that was if I think you're like
Speaker 1: having some read berg Eric, if you can turn that
Speaker 1: audio off, or maybe it's me, but it was from
Speaker 1: an article about this book the Gray Men pursuing the
Speaker 1: Stazzi into the President, and they had gone through and
Speaker 1: instead of really abducting people and disappearing him, they started
Speaker 1: really psychologically torturing some of the people in East Germany.
Speaker 1: And what they would do is go into their house,
Speaker 1: they would move their belongings, they'll call them in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night and really a form of psychological harassment.
Speaker 1: So I asked Eric to be on. He's been gracious
Speaker 1: enough to oblige and be here tonight. So doctor Eric Calstrom,
Speaker 1: are you there?
Speaker 2: Very good, William, thanks for asking me to talk about
Speaker 2: this subject which is now near and dear to my heart,
Speaker 2: because I have been myself maliciously targeted since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: I was a geography professor for thirty years, most recently
Speaker 2: at California State University Status Laws, and retired in twenty
Speaker 2: eleven after a thirty year career in physical geography. I
Speaker 2: have five websites that are gang Stalking, mind Control, cooats
Speaker 2: dot com, nine to one one, nWo dot com, Natural
Speaker 2: Climate Change dot org, San Luis valleywaterwatch dot com, and
Speaker 2: my music website is Eric Karlstrom dot com. I've always
Speaker 2: enjoyed playing guitar and recording with guitar, banjo and piano,
Speaker 2: but since twenty eleven I've been in this program which
Speaker 2: does have a long long history. As you mentioned, you
Speaker 2: mentioned the East German connection, and that of course was
Speaker 2: carried out by the East German Communist Stasi's political police,
Speaker 2: and they had developed and perfected really a program called Zersetsung,
Speaker 2: which is a German word for decomposition. How can we
Speaker 2: systematically destroy the life of a target or enemy of
Speaker 2: the state in a secret manner. And there's a movie
Speaker 2: about this that's called The Lives of Others. It's a
Speaker 2: documentary and it's quite worth watching because East Germans or
Speaker 2: now they're just Germans, but they're coming to grips with
Speaker 2: this part of their past. But it goes back further.
Speaker 2: It certainly goes back to the Russians, the Soviets that
Speaker 2: KBG trained, the East German Stassi, and it goes back
Speaker 2: to the West through countries NATO M I six and
Speaker 2: the CIA. We were guilty of the same kinds of
Speaker 2: uh skullduggery and political murders and torture and terror all
Speaker 2: over Europe after World War Two with the stay behind armies.
Speaker 2: And the most famous is Operation Claudio in Italy, in
Speaker 2: which they assassinated Aldo Moro, the Prime Minister of Italy.
Speaker 2: And this is a book about that. It's called The
Speaker 2: Political Use of Terrorism in Italy, The Puppet it's called
Speaker 2: Puppet Masters, and it documents it. There's very very it's
Speaker 2: very well documented, and you know, I would recommend or
Speaker 2: I would I would estimate there's a millions and millions
Speaker 2: of targeted individuals. Is the name they're given or given
Speaker 2: by the establishment, because that's a term that suits their
Speaker 2: purpose is actually.
Speaker 1: And rather the targeted individuals than gang stop.
Speaker 2: Really are coming out of the intelligence agencies. What this
Speaker 2: is really is counterintelligence stocking or counter terrorism or contract stocking,
Speaker 2: in which civilians and military joined together special operations forces.
Speaker 2: It's called many things, the man hunting business, authoritarian, political warfare,
Speaker 2: comprehensive coercion. I mean, I can give you a long,
Speaker 2: long list of names for this, but my initial point
Speaker 2: here is that this has a long track record. And
Speaker 2: as you had mentioned in our pre show conversation, Gene Seeberg,
Speaker 2: the beautiful actress, was tortured to suicide by the FBI
Speaker 2: in their co intel Pro counterintelligence program. But she was
Speaker 2: a civil rights activist. And of course it was the
Speaker 2: co intel Pro that also assassinated Martin Luther King and
Speaker 2: Malcolm X and twenty eight Black Panthers in one year
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight. So this is a political retribution. This
Speaker 2: isolitic targeting. It goes through the Department of Homeland Security
Speaker 2: and the fusion centers that are run by DHS and FBI,
Speaker 2: and the.
Speaker 1: Nobody really mentions anymore, right, it doesn't seem to get.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a yeah, this is all post nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. It really ramped up with nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: and it's all part of nine to eleven. In fact,
Speaker 2: nine to eleven is all part of this COVID thing too.
Speaker 2: If you if you look deeply at the false flag
Speaker 2: state sponsored terrorism such as nine to eleven, you know,
Speaker 2: you see that there are many such incidents, you know,
Speaker 2: the seven seven bombings and the you know, the Boston bombings,
Speaker 2: et cetera, and Sandy Hook, and these are staged and
Speaker 2: we targeted individuals. We have the same or treated to
Speaker 2: the same live spy setups and syops on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: And if you're in a big city, it must be
Speaker 2: a nightmare. You might get one hundred of these attacks
Speaker 2: psychological attacks a day. They profile your personnel, they have
Speaker 2: all the data on you, and then they bring to
Speaker 2: bear all these different military military military psychological operations weapons
Speaker 2: including electronic directed energy weapons and neuro weapons. So the
Speaker 2: Russians terms for this, the Soviets term for this was psychotronics,
Speaker 2: which is a combination of psychological warfare and electronic warfare.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, and that's what it is
Speaker 2: still today. And so we really have a silent genocide
Speaker 2: going on now, a silent holocaust, a massacre which is
Speaker 2: flying under the radar because the press refuses to cover
Speaker 2: it and because I think Congress basically is complicit. Now,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump himself was targeted big time around the twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen election. And this this is a scalable operation now
Speaker 2: for I know I'm going rattling on, but I just
Speaker 2: want to set the stage. There's a there's a there's
Speaker 2: an excellent series of podcasts given by a journalist, researcher,
Speaker 2: politician and targeted individual out of New Zealand named Susie Dawson.
Speaker 2: And it's called Opening the Five Eyes Exposing the Spies,
Speaker 2: and it's a ten part series that I've got on
Speaker 2: my website and I've transcribed it. It's so important because
Speaker 2: her insights are so deep. She was head of the
Speaker 2: Internet Party in New Zealand. And so if anybody who's
Speaker 2: believes they're targeted and whose lives are being unraveled and destroyed,
Speaker 2: and they're about to commit suicide. I recommend, you know,
Speaker 2: education is the best antidote at first, the best countermeasures,
Speaker 2: so to speak. And then the next thing I would
Speaker 2: recommend if they want more information, I have put together
Speaker 2: a five and a half hour a series called Lifeline
Speaker 2: Essential Insights and Healing Music for Illegally Targeted Citizens. That's
Speaker 2: on my music website, Ericcarlstrom dot com. It's called the
Speaker 2: Lifeline Project, and that's for sale on my music website.
Speaker 2: It's a matter of life and death for targets, and
Speaker 2: it soon will be a matter, I think, William of
Speaker 2: life and death for the entire American populace. Because what's
Speaker 2: happening now, as you I'm sure know, is that you know,
Speaker 2: after the quote unquote riot insurrection on January sixth, which
Speaker 2: was another staged event, I'm sure Ashley Babbitt is alive
Speaker 2: and well I've seen footage that shows that it was
Speaker 2: all staged. This is what they do, this is what
Speaker 2: the psychological operations groups out of the military does. And
Speaker 2: she was former intelligence in the Air Force, so I
Speaker 2: am positive, proof positive this was all a set up.
Speaker 2: This was a way to take the momentum of you know,
Speaker 2: a decent protest with you know, heartfelt lawbiding American citizens
Speaker 2: and turn it into you know, as Chuck Schumer, Senator
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer says, you know, worse than Pearl Harbor, total fabrication.
Speaker 2: So the lies are just get getting bigger and bigger
Speaker 2: and bigger and bigger. So what's going to happen now?
Speaker 2: As you know they are, you know, making all kinds
Speaker 2: of noises that the new terrorist profile is Trump supporters,
Speaker 2: white supremacists. So now they're going to have to go
Speaker 2: through the DHS, FBI Fusion Center and be classified as
Speaker 2: terrorists like we targets have been. See, this is the
Speaker 2: whole terrorism scam which came from the nine to eleven
Speaker 2: false flag, which of course is also run by the
Speaker 2: government in order to justify all these foreign wars, the
Speaker 2: war on terror broad and then the radically ramped at
Speaker 2: police state at home, and then COVID comes along, and
Speaker 2: then it's just COVID is just reinvigorating this whole thing
Speaker 2: because people were getting a little bit bored and they
Speaker 2: weren't afraid enough of terrorists anymore. Because your chance of
Speaker 2: being killed by a terrorist is about the same as
Speaker 2: you know, being killed by your TV set. One in
Speaker 2: twenty million. In other words, you won't be.
Speaker 1: By a terrorists is to test by an actual terrorists
Speaker 1: right now, a government run terrorists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the terrorists in the FBI, the CIA, the DHS,
Speaker 2: and the special operations forces and the military and their
Speaker 2: private investigator partners. Another book that I think is very
Speaker 2: important to read is this book by Arcan Priest and Arcan,
Speaker 2: Top Secret America, The Rise of the New American Security State.
Speaker 2: It came out in twenty fourteen, but there's as of
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, over two thousand private intelligence agencies and private
Speaker 2: security agencies that trade did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to interrupt, but they did like a study
Speaker 1: on how big the intelligence agencies just in the United
Speaker 1: States were. They're enormous, Like, they have all kinds of
Speaker 1: time and power. And those fusion centers were instrumental in
Speaker 1: solidifying the power of the Bush administration after nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: Why we're an interesting connected So yeah.
Speaker 2: Well we're in serious trouble. We we've had a communist revolution.
Speaker 2: Now it's a totalitarian society now. And of course California
Speaker 2: is supposed to open up on June fifteenth. But I
Speaker 2: noticed when a news article that they have a they
Speaker 2: have a tear system, colored tear system for the different counties,
Speaker 2: depending on how you know bad the COVID is supposed
Speaker 2: to be. It's just like the color system that they
Speaker 2: rolled out after the War on Terror, you know, Streight
Speaker 2: and all of all of that is just non seditioning.
Speaker 2: And so the American conditioning, we're we we're you know,
Speaker 2: with the masks, we're conditioning, we're conditioned. With the socialized
Speaker 2: social isolation, with the lockdowns. This is all just you know,
Speaker 2: baby steps towards complete martial law and complete totalitarian takeover.
Speaker 2: So if the American people don't wake up and push back,
Speaker 2: I fully expect that they will, they will go to limit.
Speaker 2: I think that the you know, the the international bankers
Speaker 2: backed by the intelligence and militaries of the world, which
Speaker 2: Susi Dawson calls the NSA Global spine network. You know,
Speaker 2: all the Five Eyes countries over one hundred with these
Speaker 2: agreements with the NSA and g HQ and Britain and
Speaker 2: Unit eighty two hundred in Israel. It's all one thing.
Speaker 2: And except for those are at the top of the tiers,
Speaker 2: and then the others become more progressively vassal states to them.
Speaker 2: So We've already got this one world government really in
Speaker 2: place without those three in power, Israel, the United States
Speaker 2: and Britain if de facto, and all these other countries,
Speaker 2: even the Five Eyes countries like New Zealand, they're vassal states.
Speaker 2: They and of course America itself is becoming a vassal
Speaker 2: state to this system. And the American citizens, Yeah, the
Speaker 2: American citizens. You know, this is extra judicial. We targets
Speaker 2: lose all our simple liberties, just like the rest of
Speaker 2: you are going to lose all your civil liberties if
Speaker 2: we don't push back.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe what we can talk about is that what
Speaker 1: was Susie Dawson Tarbo, How did she become a targeted individual?
Speaker 1: And her what is her example of gangs talking? And
Speaker 1: then we can talk about yours individually, and then how
Speaker 1: that played out. Just for the listeners, did they know
Speaker 1: the mechanics or the what is happening to them by
Speaker 1: these nefarious individuals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good, good way to go. Susie Dawson,
Speaker 2: you know, I just discovered her a couple of months
Speaker 2: ago and then and I transcribed all of her videos.
Speaker 2: A brilliant young lady. I guess she's in her thirties,
Speaker 2: young mother, single mother, now living in Moscow because her
Speaker 2: life was really in danger at New Zealand, so she
Speaker 2: had to ask for asylum there. But she was a
Speaker 2: political activist. She was with the Occupy Aucklands and she
Speaker 2: was with the Stop TPP, the Transpecific Partnership, and she
Speaker 2: was particularly effective political organ and she was also the
Speaker 2: head of this internet party. So she's very savvy with
Speaker 2: social media. Unlike me, I'm not savvy at always. I'm
Speaker 2: not on any of that stuff. But she's totally with it,
Speaker 2: and she became progressively targeted and she figured out how
Speaker 2: the system works. She realized that there was a particular
Speaker 2: there were five agencies in New Zealand that were specifically
Speaker 2: targeting her, and they were made up their private agencies
Speaker 2: like I think it's Townsend Clark or something like that,
Speaker 2: made of X cops, and.
Speaker 1: So they're like the intel, it's like from the intelligence,
Speaker 1: almost like Black Cube or some of these other ones
Speaker 1: were they they're friends, they have the experience, but they're
Speaker 1: supposedly independent, which gives them much more leeway.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, exactly, just like Black Cube, which is of
Speaker 2: course out of Israel. But she found out and through
Speaker 2: her research and her contacts. Very smart woman. That's a
Speaker 2: company like Townsend Clark something like that would actually build
Speaker 2: the New Zealand government for their service. So this is
Speaker 2: what we're talking about, is the radical expansion and privatization
Speaker 2: of the spy industry all over the world. And there's
Speaker 2: a lot of money being exchanged in this and it's
Speaker 2: a growth industry, so they need more targets. That means
Speaker 2: they need to destroy more people's lives. And in her interviews,
Speaker 2: Susy talks with a psychologist and they go through a
Speaker 2: document that came out of twenty eleven by j TRIG,
Speaker 2: which stands for Joint Threat Response Intelligence Group, which is
Speaker 2: a sub kind of a subgroup of GCHQ, which is
Speaker 2: Government Communications Headquarters, which is Britain's NSA, And they have
Speaker 2: a document or a manual which trains stokers in you
Speaker 2: know how they are going to operate to destroy the
Speaker 2: lives of online people like Susie and Meat using the
Speaker 2: five d's from the GHQ, which are deceive, denied, disrupt, degrade,
Speaker 2: and destroy. Okay, that's their mop and and that's exactly
Speaker 2: what they do. They're very clever and of course they
Speaker 2: work hand in hand with the human and the sigient personnel.
Speaker 2: Human stands for human intelligence. Those are spies on the
Speaker 2: ground and the signals intelligence the cigant is NSA and
Speaker 2: their partners, and they track these targets everywhere, and they
Speaker 2: actually have signals that go to the brains of the targets.
Speaker 2: They know this the the brain signature of the targets,
Speaker 2: and many of these targets will then actually start to
Speaker 2: hear the voice to skull microwave synthetic telepathy and get
Speaker 2: these horrible, horrible messages from God knows where again to
Speaker 2: designed for the five d's to degrade, deny, destroy, disrupt,
Speaker 2: et cetera, deceive, and then they will be led along
Speaker 2: until hopefully they become completely enslaved. The idea is to
Speaker 2: turn them into a cyborg slave.
Speaker 1: Does somebody who neutralize them, right, like to neutralize them
Speaker 1: turn them into basket cases?
Speaker 2: Right? Well? For how case? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you how did your gang targeted?
Speaker 1: Individual gangs talking? Why do you think that you were targeted?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not positive, but I can tell you
Speaker 2: that after I retired from cal State University in twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: I moved back to Crestone Colorado. It's a small mountaintown
Speaker 2: in Colorado in the southern part, beautiful area with beautiful
Speaker 2: high mountains, which is a small town of fifteen hundred,
Speaker 2: which has really the United Nations of spiritual groups. Maurice Strong,
Speaker 2: very high in the United Nations environmental movement, the guy
Speaker 2: who headed up Agenda twenty one and the Real Earth
Speaker 2: Summit and the Real Plus twenty and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Friends of the Rockefellers in the Rothschell, major player. This
Speaker 2: was really his doing. This particular town. This was kind
Speaker 2: of the town that backed up the Real Earth Summit
Speaker 2: with all these NGOs and spiritual groups you know, Dalai,
Speaker 2: Lama and Sting. So we have all these religions there.
Speaker 2: The United Nations have religions, which I thought was really
Speaker 2: cool because it was very international. But then I started
Speaker 2: peeling back what was going on and realized that there
Speaker 2: was a much darker agenda, in fact, Agenda twenty one
Speaker 2: that's underlying the whole thing. And I started writing a
Speaker 2: series in twenty eleven called is Preston Bacca The Vatican
Speaker 2: City of the New World Order and Expose of the
Speaker 2: New World Religion, And that series is on myne nWo
Speaker 2: dot com website under occult or New World Religion question mark,
Speaker 2: and it's now got twelve chapters with something like one
Speaker 2: thousand pages and ninety appendices. Well, you know, in doing that,
Speaker 2: of course, was I was kind of excavating the dark
Speaker 2: side of Creston Baca and the UN, which, of course
Speaker 2: all of this COVID stuff for the World Health Organization,
Speaker 2: all this climate change garbage is all coming really from
Speaker 2: the UN. So we're dealing with a whole series of
Speaker 2: lives to push us into this, you know, Agenda twenty one,
Speaker 2: Agenda twenty thirty one, World Government and the worship of Satan.
Speaker 2: It is the New World Religion is Satanic. So this
Speaker 2: is what I found out. The New Age Religion is
Speaker 2: is you know, really an invention of the elite to
Speaker 2: try to you know, to usher us into the Soluciferian,
Speaker 2: Luciferic Antichrist kingdom, which is what they've been ponying two
Speaker 2: for a long time.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's where it started for you. Then somebody
Speaker 1: else was exposing it was.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was two years after I started that paper,
Speaker 2: that series of articles, in fact the year before, and
Speaker 2: I'm told by people like Susy Dawson it's really important
Speaker 2: to know what you were doing when you were targeted.
Speaker 2: And I had just finished chapter four on the controllers,
Speaker 2: chapter five on how they control, and chapter six on
Speaker 2: mind control History and Applications, which is like a sixty
Speaker 2: or seventy or eighty page summary of about fifty books
Speaker 2: that I read on the topic of MK Ultra and
Speaker 2: Tavistock Institute and the mind control that British and American
Speaker 2: and Soviets and various other nations have been doing under
Speaker 2: the table top secret. And it's very dark, it's very satanic,
Speaker 2: and those techniques are being rolled out on more more people. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm convinced there's a lot of people that are on
Speaker 2: your mind control now with these extremely low frequencies from
Speaker 2: HARP and elsewhere, you know, and that this they know
Speaker 2: how to change people's moods. They know how to give
Speaker 2: subliminal suggestions. It's a subject that's very dark, but it's
Speaker 2: important to know what's going on because this is their
Speaker 2: secret weapon. This and the gang stocking, the mind control
Speaker 2: and the gang stocking quote unquote gang stocking demand hunting business.
Speaker 2: It's also called uh this they target politicians, and of
Speaker 2: course Jeffrey Epstein yeah, Jeffrey Epstein. Those guys will will,
Speaker 2: of course, you know, bribe and compromise the politicians and
Speaker 2: get them in their back pocket. But but they can
Speaker 2: also terrorize them with this gang stocking set of tools. Again,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a growth industry. It's a
Speaker 2: for profit growth industry. Susy Dawson would say that Jamal
Speaker 2: Kashogi was a target and probably a target of the
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabian government. So any government can or any rich
Speaker 2: person can can buy into the system because it's more
Speaker 2: or less privatize net and these militarized technologies are out there.
Speaker 2: She would also say that Solimani, the intelligence top guy
Speaker 2: from Iran. She would also say that this basic system
Speaker 2: nsa global Spye network which targets individuals like her and
Speaker 2: myself and the Wiki leaks guy Julian Massange. For sure, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's definitely targeted. That this very system is the same
Speaker 2: system with Sigant on the the signals intelligence with n
Speaker 2: s A, and the human with the human intelligence on
Speaker 2: the grounds byes with CIA and their cutouts. This is
Speaker 2: the system that figures out where to drop the bombs
Speaker 2: in Syria and other places in the world. So they
Speaker 2: can scale it up to wars, you can scale it
Speaker 2: down to destroying a person. So this, I think is
Speaker 2: why that it has been so difficult for targeted individuals
Speaker 2: back through history, and it's been going on for forty
Speaker 2: or fifty years in America alone, maybe sixty. And I
Speaker 2: can give you the history of that too, because it's
Speaker 2: all on my website. But it's so no, no successful
Speaker 2: lawsuit has been brought been because the lawyers and the judges,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to fuck be in the
Speaker 2: military industrial complex. There's too much money and power here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're they're beyond getting all that stuff subpoena
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I mean, I don't think that
Speaker 1: would even be possible to get those things out. When
Speaker 1: you when you were gangstock, did they let you know
Speaker 1: that it was happening. Was this something obvious to you
Speaker 1: or did they really try to keep you unknowing of it?
Speaker 1: Because I think that some people that I've read, like
Speaker 1: the Intel people, really want you to know. They're harassing you,
Speaker 1: to freak you out. You know, close the door, see
Speaker 1: you open the door for you, go to the dog park,
Speaker 1: do these kind of things, you know, to destabilized you.
Speaker 1: What was your experience like.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, lie, spy setups and psyops. And at first
Speaker 2: it's like shock and off because you don't have any
Speaker 2: idea what's happening. You know, all of a sudden, people
Speaker 2: are scowling and flipping you off and doing these strange things,
Speaker 2: and people who were your friends or all of a
Speaker 2: sudden acting like, you know, they hate your guts because
Speaker 2: somebody else, you know, some some you know, some interloper,
Speaker 2: perpetrator or purp or handler has come into the community
Speaker 2: and told people that you're a pedophile, or you're a
Speaker 2: you're a you know, prostitute, or you're dealing drugs or whatever.
Speaker 2: They systematically destroy your your reputation, impetunity after after they
Speaker 2: have systematically gained as much information about you as they
Speaker 2: can over a period years. But yeah, what's.
Speaker 1: Scary is we all have dossiers in the United States.
Speaker 1: Every person has a dossier there. Somebody can access to
Speaker 1: that or not. But the intense psychological understanding of somebody
Speaker 1: knowing all that stuff about a person is more than
Speaker 1: disturbing of having one psychiatrist have that notion because it's
Speaker 1: an intel agent who you know has the capacity to
Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff through the Internet and through
Speaker 1: other individuals. So it's pretty scary, are you without having
Speaker 1: really any oversight?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Sorry, absolutely no, please, your insights are great. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I say, the shock and on the first couple
Speaker 2: of years, many people succumb and you know, they just
Speaker 2: their lives are going totally terrible, and they some take
Speaker 2: their own lives, some get through that, and then they
Speaker 2: start to see these patterns emerge and they start to
Speaker 2: see that, oh yeah, people want us to know that
Speaker 2: we're being stocked and harassed, and they do it very visibly,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a contempt, it's kind of a malice.
Speaker 2: And from what I understand, the these vigilanti groups, these
Speaker 2: neighborhood watch groups and these citizen on patrol groups who
Speaker 2: contract with these these handlers who are you know, private
Speaker 2: security agencies and whatnot infraguard and whatnot. They are paid
Speaker 2: in bitcoin and gift cards and things like this, and
Speaker 2: this becomes a big part of their lives and they
Speaker 2: actually make a living doing this. So I think that
Speaker 2: you know, as the economy shuts down, what has kept
Speaker 2: American economy afloat, well, all of the you know, machinations
Speaker 2: of the bankers, you know, because they're very good at,
Speaker 2: you know, playing these games. But I think that this
Speaker 2: has been a huge growth industry for the last ten years,
Speaker 2: and more and more citizens are having an off the
Speaker 2: books kind of living now becoming well, they're really becoming
Speaker 2: human devils because if you look at what they're doing
Speaker 2: is it's a death of a thousand cuts. What they're
Speaker 2: doing is trying to destroy the target and you know,
Speaker 2: completely unraveled their personality and their life, destroy the life
Speaker 2: of the target, and then pretty soon the sitting there here,
Speaker 2: I don't have a life anymore? Who am I? How
Speaker 2: do I function? You know? And that is the goal
Speaker 2: of the program is to murder the life of the
Speaker 2: target and then see how long the target might survive.
Speaker 1: Right, what was that German word you used at the
Speaker 1: beginnings IST's tone or something?
Speaker 2: What was it? Yeah, because they had that.
Speaker 1: When I was reading this article about the book I
Speaker 1: was telling you about the Gray Men, they mentioned that
Speaker 1: same word like they knew what they were doing. They
Speaker 1: had I think the guy's name was Marcus Woolf, who
Speaker 1: was the head of the Stasi for like decades, and
Speaker 1: he had an iron grip on everybody, every fourth person
Speaker 1: was an informant. But the public doesn't know the games
Speaker 1: that the public master can play on top. And that's
Speaker 1: what's even more scary. If you have a really irresponsible
Speaker 1: intel agency or anything or government, you're in trouble, especially
Speaker 1: if people want to have a one world order or
Speaker 1: something like that. And then people then you get adamized
Speaker 1: because people think you're crazy, and it just goes it
Speaker 1: gets even worse and worse.
Speaker 2: Well, isolation, yes, is a big part. It's a torture technique,
Speaker 2: and that's what they do. They force people into isolation
Speaker 2: through fear. But yeah, Marcus Wolf, you brought up he's
Speaker 2: he was the you know, head of the STOTS. He
Speaker 2: was brought over to help train the new DHS and
Speaker 2: form the new Department of Homeland Security right around.
Speaker 1: I remember that he was brought over, was right.
Speaker 2: And not only that, but the guy, the guy who
Speaker 2: very recently has been the head of the DHS just
Speaker 2: happens to have the same last name, so it could
Speaker 2: well be his son, you know. And and so we're
Speaker 2: dealing with that's an industry, Yes, it's an industry. And
Speaker 2: and you know who who funnels the recommendations for who
Speaker 2: the terrorists are. Well, it can come from all sectors.
Speaker 2: You know, people are encouraged to to you know, see something,
Speaker 2: say something, report this to your up, your fusion center, whatever,
Speaker 2: your neighborhood. And then this all goes up through this
Speaker 2: enormous intelligence chain, you know, to the NSA where it
Speaker 2: gets stored in bluff Field, Utah, you know, in a
Speaker 2: million square foot areas. So they've got the goods on everybody.
Speaker 2: And well it's incredible. Yeah, reason you're luck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say you're lucky if you're
Speaker 1: only gangstock because some of those I think some of
Speaker 1: those quasi governmental agencies do some very dirty work, not
Speaker 1: just gang stocking. And that's my opinion, but I.
Speaker 2: Think so, yeah, it's a scalable thing. You know, they
Speaker 2: can they can take you out like they did sol
Speaker 2: the money. They can put you in the different programs.
Speaker 2: You know, many of us, I think are human trafficked
Speaker 2: into a non consensual biomedical experimentation. And I believe it
Speaker 2: has to do with mapping human consciousness. Uh, the Human
Speaker 2: Brain Project out of Europe twenty thirteen and the Obama
Speaker 2: Brain Initiative, which was supposed to supply data for the
Speaker 2: Human Brain Project in Europe. They work together. I think
Speaker 2: that a lot of us are EEG and fMRI data
Speaker 2: which they can gather from us remotely is traded on
Speaker 2: a kind of a stock exchange which goes to different
Speaker 2: medical institutions and universities, and people are making money on it. Now.
Speaker 2: Somebody wrote me a letter one of the tis and
Speaker 2: or somebody wrote me comments, I get very interesting comments.
Speaker 2: And she said, she said she's you know, her ex
Speaker 2: spouse was the grandson of a you know, Supreme court
Speaker 2: justice and her his father was also a very high justice.
Speaker 2: And that the congressmen were also involved in trading on
Speaker 2: these stock exchanges. In terms of this, in terms of
Speaker 2: this biomedical data, I think the super rich want to
Speaker 2: live forever, William, and they want to discover, they want
Speaker 2: to digitize human consciousness, and they want to hook up
Speaker 2: everybody's brain to artificial intelligence and depending on cloud. And
Speaker 2: this is how it relates back to the vaccine, because
Speaker 2: the vaccine then would put the artificial stuff in us
Speaker 2: that that would you know, like that be a kind
Speaker 2: of a self assembling chip which then could be accessed
Speaker 2: remotely with these frequencies, and then we could become a cyborgs,
Speaker 2: which is a merger a machine.
Speaker 1: They already have that. I mean, Elon Musk already has
Speaker 1: that brain to active chip. It's just a better way
Speaker 1: people take it. I mean, cyborgs. Even Google Glass was
Speaker 1: pretty close to a cyborg when you could take it off,
Speaker 1: or even the well, look at Zuckerberg and Oculus Reft.
Speaker 1: I mean, geez, I don't know why anybody would want
Speaker 1: to put that on their head, but that's These are
Speaker 1: dangerous precedents.
Speaker 2: But how many, absolutely, I mean, just you think many
Speaker 2: targets have these implants in them. You know, I've had
Speaker 2: targets come to me and say they've been implanted forty
Speaker 2: years ago and have been hit with microwaves ever since
Speaker 2: and tortured with them. But these implants that Elon Musk
Speaker 2: is talking about been studied, you know, for the last
Speaker 2: seventy years by the US government, by the CIA, MK
Speaker 2: Ultra and other programs in concert with the military and
Speaker 2: the military of the Medical and University establishment. And going
Speaker 2: back to doctor Norbert Leaner in nineteen fifty five at MIT,
Speaker 2: who invented the auto correlator, which could communicate remotely electronically
Speaker 2: and read the EEG patterns electro encephalogram patterns on twelve
Speaker 2: channels from people and then come and spit out a
Speaker 2: piece of paper which which shows the eg's and he
Speaker 2: was able to decode how you read and interpret any EG.
Speaker 2: And so this has been going on since nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 1: What was the guy's name who put the chip in
Speaker 1: the in the cow's brain and you got it to stop.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you've been doing these these kind of
Speaker 1: internal brains, the ones that been public a shut publicized,
Speaker 1: I should say. And so we're fifty years beyond that.
Speaker 1: So God only knows what's happening in some of these
Speaker 1: secret labs and things like that. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really terrifying to think.
Speaker 2: It is terrifying. People need to know that. You know,
Speaker 2: you talked about brain to computer interface, brain to brain interface.
Speaker 2: The military has poured an enormous amount of black budget
Speaker 2: money into this. I would say the gang Stocking program
Speaker 2: is the largest black op and black budget op in
Speaker 2: human history. And it does have to do with military
Speaker 2: building superman uh super soldiers, et cetera, and developing these
Speaker 2: technologies by using us the tis as guinea pigs. So
Speaker 2: they at some point would have had to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: this person is a pain in the butt, we don't
Speaker 2: like him, he's a political enemy or her. Because most
Speaker 2: of the targets are females. It could could be random.
Speaker 2: It could be you you represent a specific demographic that
Speaker 2: they you know, that the Pentagon wants to study. You know,
Speaker 2: how can we work with this? And I've got these guys,
Speaker 2: you know, giving their lectures on my on YouTube's on
Speaker 2: my website. You know, doctor James Giordano is one of
Speaker 2: these modern Joseph Mangelo types who you know, is a
Speaker 2: neuroscientist at Georgetown University, big mk LTR University who is
Speaker 2: a DARPA consultant and a neuroethicist consultant with the Human
Speaker 2: with the Human Brain Project.
Speaker 1: In your public public label, right Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he's talking. He's a he says, he's a neuro
Speaker 2: weaponologist and and and he's giving these talks all over
Speaker 2: the place to military people and government people at Lawrence
Speaker 2: Livermore Lab and Special Operations Forces. Doctor James Canton the
Speaker 2: same thing with the Special Operations Forces, with the Jason Group.
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are just telling you what they're doing,
Speaker 2: and people can't.
Speaker 1: Believe that they can't believe that it's actually happening, but
Speaker 1: they should because I think that the researcher was for
Speaker 1: the this Operation Chaos. The guy found out that uh,
Speaker 1: what was the guy's name is? Greenberg was the CIA
Speaker 1: doctor and then it was uh uh Jolly West. They
Speaker 1: said that they cracked the brain. But then the real
Speaker 1: challenge wasn't they're cracking the brain. It was to make
Speaker 1: sure nobody knew that they actually did it, so they
Speaker 1: had to publicly lie and said it was impossible, but
Speaker 1: they knew that they could create a mind control zombie
Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, it's really incredible, but uh.
Speaker 2: Cyborg, Yes, exactly, you've got it right on. I mean
Speaker 2: even the name, I think Greenberg is one of the
Speaker 2: top Nazi doctors who came over here in Operation paper Clip.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and it was doctor Delgado, who's a Delgado experiment.
Speaker 2: He did the experiment with the bull, and that was
Speaker 2: what I was thinking of. Yes's electrical stimulation of the brain.
Speaker 2: He wrote a book called the psychos uh uh something
Speaker 2: about electrical stimulation of the brain toward a psycho civilized society.
Speaker 2: And he believed that he was really a totalitarian in
Speaker 2: his mind from Spain who believed that people don't have
Speaker 2: the right to develop their own minds. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: the guy who stopped the bull electronically remotely supposedly got
Speaker 2: into the bull ring with his little Stimo sever gear
Speaker 2: there there exactly, Yeah, and supposedly was able to pacify
Speaker 2: the bull with that. It might have been.
Speaker 1: The thing is, Eric, is this is what nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: So we're talking like, you know, over fifty years ago.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so these guys were taking around with these
Speaker 1: very clunky electronic devices. So we're we are really at
Speaker 1: the era of the mind control cyberg, like you said.
Speaker 1: But what's also scary is that mind control is kind
Speaker 1: of like the hand made into the occult. So it
Speaker 1: has you have to have that evil will to be
Speaker 1: willing to engage in mind control of another person. And
Speaker 1: you see, like Michael Akino was a logical military officer
Speaker 1: of mind war was beyond psychological operation that you're constantly
Speaker 1: pounding mind war on people never let up, and you
Speaker 1: throw in some psychatronics and you're work beyond or Well
Speaker 1: and Alvis Huxley work on something that those guys never imagine.
Speaker 1: It's beyond pharmaceuticals. It's into something different.
Speaker 2: Very much more, very good point. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: your stuff. Yeah, add in Alistair Crowley, because now we're
Speaker 2: dealing Michael Akino, who you mentioned. He he was the
Speaker 2: founder of the Temple of set He was a Satanist,
Speaker 2: and he's also accused of, you know, being a pedophile
Speaker 2: with a large number of children at the presidio not
Speaker 2: too far as you know, in near San Francisco. And
Speaker 2: you know, this is a you know about the time
Speaker 2: of Anton Levey and his Church of Satan in the
Speaker 2: late sixties. And Manson who was also a mind control victim,
Speaker 2: who was also you know, cult leader.
Speaker 1: And the user, right like I mean he I think
Speaker 1: he is techniques. He's handler than handler.
Speaker 2: He was a very effective handler. In fact, he just
Speaker 2: he's a very old guy now, but he just married
Speaker 2: a gallaner twenties. He must be very good at mind control,
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, this is a very dark part
Speaker 2: of American history, and it took me a whole year
Speaker 2: to write this paper, Mind Control History and Applications, which
Speaker 2: I highly recommend on my website if people want a
Speaker 2: basic introduction to this subject. You know, this is how
Speaker 2: the New World order, you know, will control us. And
Speaker 2: now that Elon Musk has his SpaceX and his Neureral
Speaker 2: link and you know, the low Earth orbit satellites. Uh,
Speaker 2: what we're dealing with his satellites, supercomputers, electromagnetic frequencies, and
Speaker 2: it's all tied together now.
Speaker 1: So now it's an overlapping network, a web in a
Speaker 1: way that much broader and much more then just merely
Speaker 1: an Internet connection.
Speaker 2: So that's really what's Yeah, and you know, people like
Speaker 2: Leo Zagami, who you may may know about. He's written
Speaker 2: a book. Yeah, he's written a book, and he talks
Speaker 2: about cyber Satan. I mean, AI is supposed to take over, right,
Speaker 2: and there's a race to develop AI and to get
Speaker 2: AI to control everything. And this guy, this clown, Elon
Speaker 2: Musk says, oh, well, we have to we have to
Speaker 2: merge with AI, which of course means just you know,
Speaker 2: just send your soul right to Hell. So the.
Speaker 1: Book of Revelation territory, Well.
Speaker 2: I'm i'm i'm I'm persuaded that you know, Jesus Christ
Speaker 2: is the Son of God and and Satan is the adversary,
Speaker 2: you know, and that we're dealing with times that are
Speaker 2: very close to the times, and that it looks like
Speaker 2: it's rolling out kind of, you know, as as the
Speaker 2: Book of Revelations said, and that we may be right
Speaker 2: on the cusp of the tribulation because the phenomenal weapon
Speaker 2: that they can bring to bear. But the most important
Speaker 2: thing that people need to realize really is that Americans
Speaker 2: now are facing hybrid warfare, which is conducted against the
Speaker 2: or unconventional warfare. It's asymmetrical warfare, which is conducted by
Speaker 2: our own military intelligence against us. The state has decided
Speaker 2: that there's too many of us and that we need depopulation,
Speaker 2: and the secret societies have decided that hey, they would
Speaker 2: like immortality, and for those of us that they want
Speaker 2: to keep around, they would like to turn us into
Speaker 2: bio robot slaves. And they have the technology to do
Speaker 2: these things. And we targeted individuals. We have been the
Speaker 2: guinea pigs for a process which I think now is
Speaker 2: about to roll out on the world with these vaccines.
Speaker 2: Because if they can change your DNA, and they can
Speaker 2: use your DNA to target you, and they can change
Speaker 2: your DNA and patent you and then use these self
Speaker 2: assembling nano chips to quantum dot tattoos or whatever this
Speaker 2: can everybody can be then turned into a piece of
Speaker 2: computer right, like a literal Crowley's axiom, the slaveshall servant
Speaker 2: to a real modern post apocalyptic nightmare, like a true
Speaker 2: beyond any any dystopia ever written. Can I read you
Speaker 2: this quote from Marshall mcclun that it came across today.
Speaker 2: It is he said, world War three is a gorilla
Speaker 2: information war with no division between military and civilian participation.
Speaker 2: So we may be in kind of a new type
Speaker 2: of warfare, a new global warfare outside of national boundaries,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't have the obvious World War two feel,
Speaker 2: So I meant them it's a very good point. And
Speaker 2: actually I think it was nineteen fifty six or fifty
Speaker 2: nine that Els Samuel Huntington, who was one of these
Speaker 2: big CFR guys, wrote a paper talking about the need
Speaker 2: to integrate civilian forces or irregular forces with military forces.
Speaker 2: And then this has been done increasingly since that paper
Speaker 2: because the CIA uses these CFR position papers as their
Speaker 2: marching orders. Really, so CFR and CIA have been really
Speaker 2: running the show since they killed Kennedy nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2: As per my and many others research and it's all
Speaker 2: been towards this, you know, kind of this Fabian socialist
Speaker 2: gradualism to totalitarianism. But the Revolution and Military Affairs RNM
Speaker 2: really occurred back in the sixties, seventies and eighties when
Speaker 2: they started rolling out and using these directed energy weapons
Speaker 2: and increasingly the neuro weapons. And this is in all
Speaker 2: kinds of military documents which are very boring to read
Speaker 2: but tell you a lot of stuff and the public
Speaker 2: doesn't read them offen. Sorry, do you mind taking a
Speaker 2: few questions? Doctor got some questions from listeners. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: What are your favorite books about MT Ultra mind control?
Speaker 1: You wrote your own? Can you mention that again? Or
Speaker 1: people can find.
Speaker 2: Those yes on my nine to one one nWo dot
Speaker 2: com website and on my gang Stocking Mind Controlcolts dot
Speaker 2: com website. I have posted mind Control History and Applications,
Speaker 2: which is about I don't know, sixty seventy eighty pages long,
Speaker 2: which is basically reviews about fifty books. And yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a mind control cults, right, Yeah, it would be under
Speaker 2: mind control being in mind control and cults. And it's
Speaker 2: called mind Control History and Applications, and that one reviews
Speaker 2: these books, so I can give you some of these
Speaker 2: other books and excellent and there were starting to be
Speaker 2: written right about the time of the Church Committee investigations
Speaker 2: back in the seventies when they when they start investigating
Speaker 2: what the CIA had been up to in all these
Speaker 2: cobrodots since they're founding in nineteen forty seven. The Church
Speaker 2: Committee was in nineteen seventy six and nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2: And then John Marx came out with a book called
Speaker 2: In Search of the Manchurian Candidate, and he's talking about
Speaker 2: the CIA's mind control projects. I don't know the subtitle,
Speaker 2: but basically, he and a team he was from the
Speaker 2: State Department. He and a team of a lot of
Speaker 2: researchers went through all these boxes of classified documents which
Speaker 2: CIA director Helms thought he had destroyed back before the
Speaker 2: Church Committee, but they wound up somehow in this finance
Speaker 2: room and they got a hold of him something like
Speaker 2: I don't know, ten thousand documents or something like that,
Speaker 2: and they went through them and figured out which subprojects
Speaker 2: of cias MK culture went to which universities and which
Speaker 2: professors and what they were doing. And so that was
Speaker 2: an excellent one. And then and then an excellent book
Speaker 2: by Walter Bowart is called uh project mind Control, operation
Speaker 2: mind Control, the CI plot, CIA plot against America. Uh,
Speaker 2: this is a good one. Monarch the New Phoenix program
Speaker 2: by Marshall Thomas, which talks about how the MK culture
Speaker 2: of Findings and their monarch, which is the militarized use
Speaker 2: of these MK ulture mind control techniques are actually being
Speaker 2: combined with the game Stocking program. This is the psychotronics.
Speaker 2: So you can call it many names, but gain Stocking
Speaker 2: is very very incomplete name.
Speaker 1: Uh. Well, there's the here's the intro sentence. Army intelligence
Speaker 1: officers are using classified anti personnel weapons to target activists
Speaker 1: and people who fit a common profile. This is from
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the the the number. Let me just give
Speaker 2: you a sense of of the the the many many
Speaker 2: names you can use for this. I I recently posted
Speaker 2: a post on my gang Stocking mind Control cults dot
Speaker 2: com about the newly revealed entire sixth branch of the
Speaker 2: military called Signature Reduction. That's a little bit like there's
Speaker 2: that sun sig Reducts, which is the Dark States undercarm undercover,
Speaker 2: sixty thousand strong spy army, incivily and closed mostly special
Speaker 2: operations forces and human intelligence spies and cyber warriors cyber stalkers. Okay,
Speaker 2: so this on the title I said, Okay, that equals
Speaker 2: unconventional warfare equals counterintelligence contracts, stocking equals the man hunting
Speaker 2: business equals slow killed torture and murder of law abiding
Speaker 2: citizens equals counter and terrorism equals authoritarian political war equals
Speaker 2: comprehensive coercion equals cyber war. Stocking and torture equals psychotronic
Speaker 2: war psyops and directed energy and neuroweapons equals the Havana
Speaker 2: syndrome which we now know a little bit about. They
Speaker 2: use this against the diplomats in Cuba and in China
Speaker 2: equals Russia.
Speaker 1: The same thing happened in Moscow too, using psychotronic weapons.
Speaker 2: Well, Moscow was using it against against Americans at the
Speaker 2: American embassy since at about the late fifties. In fact,
Speaker 2: during the Cold War, they were targeting our diplomats and
Speaker 2: the US government wanted to study the results, so they
Speaker 2: just paid them hazard paid. They didn't take them, and.
Speaker 1: Some of them, if my understanding's correct, they had long
Speaker 1: term injuries from the secotronic weapons, like they had ring
Speaker 1: in their years, or deptists or something.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, permanent memory loss, et cetera. I call it
Speaker 2: G five for global government, gang stocking, genocide Gestapo. We
Speaker 2: can also call it the UN New World Order policing system,
Speaker 2: because I think this is what they intend to use
Speaker 2: with the new smart cities, smart everything, which you know,
Speaker 2: you can substitute towards satanic equals, traders, thugs, criminals, cowards, bullies, spooks, weapon, psychologists,
Speaker 2: five D deceived, degrade, disrupt, destroy, devils and equals highest treason.
Speaker 1: They have to put like a sugar coating on it,
Speaker 1: make it smart. Oh see, if you have this, you'll
Speaker 1: be smart and it's smart. So smart as you right, so,
Speaker 1: but you could definitely end up getting real trouble. I
Speaker 1: got another question for you. Does he know who Greenbaum
Speaker 1: actually was? As far as I remember, he was the
Speaker 1: author of Operation mind Control. Hint that he knew who
Speaker 1: the doctor was. Do you know? Is that some familiar question? Come?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes? Oh yes, well okay, So from what I understand,
Speaker 2: he was coming from the Nazis, He was a Jew,
Speaker 2: he was into the Kabbalah, and he was very good
Speaker 2: at programming in through trauma based mind control, which means
Speaker 2: rape and torture of young children under the age of six,
Speaker 2: structures with many different personalities and rooms. Envision a castle
Speaker 2: with all these different identities in all the different rooms.
Speaker 2: You know, this one's the you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a sex kitt and this one is a demon,
Speaker 2: this one is an animal. This is all these different identities,
Speaker 2: and you know up to one hundred or one thousand
Speaker 2: identities would be programmed in in these in these programs,
Speaker 2: and again very demonic. It's coming from the Illuminati. It's
Speaker 2: coming from the Nazis, which comes from Joseph Mangla and
Speaker 2: is brought over to America with Joseph Mangola and Green Bama,
Speaker 2: I believe. And there's Corey Hammond who was a psychologist
Speaker 2: who in the nineteen nineties got up in front of
Speaker 2: a big group at a professional meeting and said, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm having patients from all over the world who are
Speaker 2: telling me the same story about this doctor Green or
Speaker 2: they same time to call him doctor Black or doctor
Speaker 2: white or whatever, and the same kinds of problems, the
Speaker 2: same kinds of issues when he goes deep. It's very
Speaker 2: difficult to treat these people because it's so cleverly done,
Speaker 2: but it is demonic and it is. Unfortunately, the military
Speaker 2: and the CIA have weaponized this. And you know, Fritz
Speaker 2: Springbyer has talked about this in his books and estimated
Speaker 2: something like over a million in America are programmed like
Speaker 2: this and over ten million in the world. But I
Speaker 2: think it's got to be much higher. These are sleepers.
Speaker 2: These are Manchurian candidates that can be triggered remotely through hypnotism,
Speaker 2: through electronic signals to do anything, to do anything.
Speaker 1: Well, interesting story, So The Manchurian Candidate was a film
Speaker 1: about mind control. Assassin was done by John Frankenheimer, who
Speaker 1: is the director who the night that Robert Kennedy was
Speaker 1: taken to the Ambassador Hotel was John Frankenheimer drove him
Speaker 1: to the Ambassador Hotel where he was shot by a
Speaker 1: mind controlled patsy named Sir Answer. And I mean, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: This guy's this is nineteen sixty eight, I think, so
Speaker 1: long ago. So these things have happened for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm totally convinced her Answer and somebody tinkered with him
Speaker 1: in a lab and it's really hard to believe. But
Speaker 1: there's a couple of good books I've read, and I've
Speaker 1: actually interviewed an author I can't remember right now, but
Speaker 1: she basically said they probably had four different mind controlled
Speaker 1: Patsy's in any spot where Robert Kennedy left the Avastor Hotel,
Speaker 1: and Sir hanser Anne was the guy. He couldn't remember
Speaker 1: anything from that night. He had had a very serious
Speaker 1: head injury. He was a horse jockey who fell off
Speaker 1: the horse on the interior side of the track and
Speaker 1: bounced his head off of that interior rail. So he
Speaker 1: had already had the susceptibility of being programmed, as my understanding,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's people believe.
Speaker 2: It's good to bring in this historical dimension. I think
Speaker 2: we need to see Sir hansor Han as a patsy,
Speaker 2: not as the shooter. He's the guy who's supposed to
Speaker 2: take the blame. Like Lee Harvey Oswald was also a patsy.
Speaker 2: And this book that came out Mentoring Kennidate or this
Speaker 2: movie came out in nineteen sixty two, a year before
Speaker 2: Kennedy was killed, and Lee Harvey Oswald would also have
Speaker 2: been a patsy and he knew it, and of course
Speaker 2: that's why they had to kill him. And I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: That Manchurian candidate. They didn't let put it out for
Speaker 1: another year, like it was so scandalous that I don't
Speaker 1: think it came out till sixty four or something like that.
Speaker 1: There was real problems with the post production.
Speaker 2: As my understanding, to me, that's the best thing Frank
Speaker 2: Sinatra has ever done. He was the star of that movie,
Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, excellent Frank Sinatra. I never really
Speaker 2: even liked him as a singer, but as an actor
Speaker 2: in that movie, he came across very convincing. And it's
Speaker 2: a great movie. I think it's a fantastic The original
Speaker 2: Black and White his hands down, much better than the remake.
Speaker 2: And there's actually a little a cult signature in there.
Speaker 2: When they're in the bar together, Frank Sinatra and the
Speaker 2: actor whose name I can't remember, they're flipping over the
Speaker 2: cards and in the background the bartender says, oh, what
Speaker 2: time is it out? Eleven?
Speaker 1: So they use the number of magic just as he's
Speaker 1: flipping the queen over. It's incredible. So Frankenheimer put that
Speaker 1: little the little element of magic in there is pretty
Speaker 1: amazing little reference. Like for me, as somebody who kind
Speaker 1: of understands that numerology I was like, this is incredible.
Speaker 2: Any I can I can see William, you found my article.
Speaker 2: That's great, very good works. Those are some of the
Speaker 2: pictures that I've got in the Mind Control History and Applications.
Speaker 2: You know, as an academic for thirty years, I wrote
Speaker 2: professional papers about physical geography. So what we do in academics,
Speaker 2: first thing we do when we start a project is
Speaker 2: we do a literature review. You know, we do a
Speaker 2: literature research to see what's been done. And so basically
Speaker 2: this is just a literature review, you know, with a
Speaker 2: long bibliography and pictures of some of the principles. There's
Speaker 2: Alan Dulls on the top and then Sidney Gottlieb. Those
Speaker 2: were the guys who started mk ELTRA in nineteen well
Speaker 2: it started in fifty three. Dulles would have signed it on.
Speaker 2: Sidney Gottlieb was the was the chemist PhD who oversaw
Speaker 2: the Technical Services Division four mk ULTRA. He was another
Speaker 2: doctor death, doctor Joseph Mendele and then doctor and then
Speaker 2: Richard Hilmes was the next CIA director. And the guy
Speaker 2: below that is George Esterbrooks, who was another psychologists we're
Speaker 2: talking about weaponized psychology here. He he was Okay. Whereas
Speaker 2: Sidney Gottlid was a Jew, this guy is a high Freemason,
Speaker 2: as was Alan Dulles. These are the these are really
Speaker 2: the secret societies behind this, I believe. And uh, this
Speaker 2: guy uh. George Esterbrooks wrote a book about hypnotism back
Speaker 2: in Gosh in the forties and he claimed, yeah, he
Speaker 2: claimed that he could create a menchering candidate simply from
Speaker 2: hypnotism during World War two, and he he he approached
Speaker 2: the government saying, hey, we need this, you know, and
Speaker 2: give me some you know, contracts, and we'll develop this
Speaker 2: for you guys. You know. So it's this weird Jolie
Speaker 2: West in West University u c LA who killed the
Speaker 2: elephant with LSD and was into colts and all stuff.
Speaker 1: And he was he was the psychologist for sir answer
Speaker 1: And I mean, could you imagine nobody really ever questioning that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: who's your psychologist? Oh? Is it the mind control guy?
Speaker 1: Oh that'll be perfect, Like this such an obvious plant.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's also the founder of the false memory syndrome,
Speaker 2: you know, which is a huge CIA cover up, you know,
Speaker 2: the false syndrome, the False Memory Syndrome Society or whatever.
Speaker 2: Then came about. Yeah, when you can.
Speaker 1: See past all their fronts and their covers, it's just
Speaker 1: the brazenness of where they're placing their assets. It is
Speaker 1: just like God, this is so obvious, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, all these guys have operated above the law
Speaker 2: and they need to be held to account. You know,
Speaker 2: this is the cryptocracy, the rule by secrecy, the CIA
Speaker 2: and their partners and apparently, you know, there is the
Speaker 2: Satanic connection. You know, they really fed on each other
Speaker 2: and they you know, they kind of spread the mid Hey,
Speaker 2: this is fun, We're having fun, you know. And this
Speaker 2: guy at the bottom, George White, who was a colonel
Speaker 2: who operated the operation Midnight Climax, where he slipped LSD
Speaker 2: into the drugs of John's who were visiting prostitutes in
Speaker 2: San Francisco back in the sixties. He said it was fun, fun, fun,
Speaker 2: where else gonna you know, red blooded American boy live
Speaker 2: still kill, cheat and rape with the blessings of the
Speaker 2: all highest, you know.
Speaker 1: And he was drinking alcohol all day and he was
Speaker 1: down the street. Jolly West I think was working at
Speaker 1: the hate Ashbury Free Clinic under an assumed name too.
Speaker 1: So these guys are all operating Andre and I think
Speaker 1: that was in O'Neill's book, who I interviewed as well.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend people get that book, which is Operation Chaos.
Speaker 1: I think it is. Is the title really good book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Operation Chaos, FBI's co intel pro the Phoenix program
Speaker 2: in Vietnam is there sets on all these things feed
Speaker 2: into what's happening now. You know this is this is
Speaker 2: a globalized version of all of those programs, which is
Speaker 2: more deadly and more horrific than ever before. I mean,
Speaker 2: I you know, I correspond with tis that take their lives,
Speaker 2: you know, so you know this is this is a
Speaker 2: holocaust and it's under operating under the radar because the
Speaker 2: media and the Congress aren't going to touch it. So
Speaker 2: somehow the American people need to stand up for ourselves
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we own this country. You know we
Speaker 2: we did not We do not give you permission to
Speaker 2: kill off citizens extra judicially, Department of Homeland Security n
Speaker 2: FBI with your Fusion Center. We do not consent to
Speaker 2: you know, you putting half of the American populace on
Speaker 2: the terrorism watch list because they voted for Trump or
Speaker 2: because they are quote unquote white supremacists, and by the way.
Speaker 2: The people that are feeding these lists tend to be
Speaker 2: people like from the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law
Speaker 2: Center of course, of both Jewish organizations. So you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to know who's behind all this stuff,
Speaker 2: there's a three thousand year plan to take over the world,
Speaker 2: you know, by Satanic cults, and the Masons are very
Speaker 2: highly involved. And Jews, you know who Jesus named as
Speaker 2: the Synagogue of Satan are are central. But they have
Speaker 2: of course all their other you know, many headed monster there.
Speaker 2: But it's a Satanic cult, and so we we are
Speaker 2: being usher. We've been satanized as a society. I think
Speaker 2: going back to the sixties, I think that was a
Speaker 2: big Satanic ritual.
Speaker 1: I grew up early. He said it was the birth
Speaker 1: of the child. He said it was the birth of
Speaker 1: his The Age of Horace really was that. Other people
Speaker 1: call it the age of a quorus. But he actually
Speaker 1: predicted that that would be the time where his ideas
Speaker 1: would come to fruition, which in part I definitely agree with.
Speaker 1: And Leary carried on the tradition of curly so drugs
Speaker 1: free secks, anti Christian you know, goes on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ron Hubbard on Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, was
Speaker 2: was the Office of Naval Intelligence and a fiction writer,
Speaker 2: and you know he was plugged in all this mind
Speaker 2: control stuff and Jack Parsons at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
Speaker 1: Fletcher Prudy. Fletcher Prudy, who wrote The Secret Team, said
Speaker 1: that he thought that Hubbard's entire World War Two career
Speaker 1: was was a legend. It was an intel legend was fake,
Speaker 1: which I think is pretty interesting from a guy who
Speaker 1: was a military intelia.
Speaker 2: Well, I think of his book is just one of
Speaker 2: the one of the ones that really is required. Proudy
Speaker 2: was the liaison officer between the military and the CIA
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five to nineteen sixty three. He saw the
Speaker 2: CIA take over the world during that time, the CIA
Speaker 2: in with the military, and then he was sent to
Speaker 2: Australia for the assassination of Kennedy, so they knew he
Speaker 2: was on the side.
Speaker 1: I think that's in Oliver Stones book too, It's like
Speaker 1: they send him off to Australia, Antarctica or something for them.
Speaker 2: And he wrote that book because the we could team
Speaker 2: the CIA and its allies in control of the United
Speaker 2: States and the world back in nineteen seventy three. It
Speaker 2: was selling well, and then the CIA decided they didn't
Speaker 2: like it. They scooped up every copy in the world
Speaker 2: and confiscated them and they disappeared them. That's how powerful
Speaker 2: powerful they were. And now it's being reprinted again.
Speaker 1: Right, So, I mean, the interesting thing is how many
Speaker 1: countries did we overthrow in the fifties, and then we
Speaker 1: finally overthrew our own country in nineteen sixty three, by
Speaker 1: our own You know, I've had conversations. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get Yeah, it's bad, but they've got it.
Speaker 1: You've got it, You've got it anyway, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's great talking to you. I could probably rip off
Speaker 1: all this stuff for another hour. I unfortunately have to
Speaker 1: wrap it up. Is there anything you would like to leave?
Speaker 1: Where are the websites? Where can people find contact information?
Speaker 1: Social media if they want to reach out and talk
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not on social media. I do get comments
Speaker 2: on my websites and I sometimes go through them right
Speaker 2: now I'm going through them and kind of putting them
Speaker 2: up on a different post, and sometimes I answer those.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw out another book that's been
Speaker 2: very helpful to me. This is by doctor Ronnie Kilda.
Speaker 2: Who was the chief Medical Officer of Northern Finland. It's
Speaker 2: called bright Light on Black Shadows. She was tortured for
Speaker 2: thirty years with this program because she was kind of
Speaker 2: a whistleblower. Her her husband was in the un representative
Speaker 2: of Norway. She's from Finland, and she was murdered by
Speaker 2: this program. Now there's very very good people being murdered.
Speaker 2: I want you to keep this in mind. People, This
Speaker 2: is not fun and games. You know, this is not entertainment.
Speaker 2: Bright Light on Black Shadows is the worst edited book
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. And this is not
Speaker 2: uncharacteristic of these kinds of books. It was published posthumously
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, the editor who doesn't this is
Speaker 2: English was her fifth language, and the editor is from Poland,
Speaker 2: is not hers languages from Canada. But then it's it's
Speaker 2: horribly added. But there's so much good information in here
Speaker 2: that I've definite publishers don't take books like that. That's
Speaker 2: one of the problems is a very few publishers, right.
Speaker 2: And this guy from Poland published it, and so you
Speaker 2: can buy it from him, and he's in Canada. But
Speaker 2: again it's a horrible organization, is hideous, but she's a
Speaker 2: brilliant woman, and she understood the problem. She even gave
Speaker 2: talks on mind control of military conferences back in two thousand.
Speaker 2: She understood how it worked. She called it cybernetics and
Speaker 2: biotelemetry and human long long words she'd used, you know,
Speaker 2: for it's what's going on? Is is it? It's computer
Speaker 2: communication with the human brain through remote signals. And this
Speaker 2: is what the NSA has been doing since World War
Speaker 2: Two with their signals intelligence, and most people don't know that.
Speaker 2: And supercomputers are involved, and also your glen towers and
Speaker 2: your local UH towers and portable towers, and your agents
Speaker 2: on the ground, who include the gang stocking booms who
Speaker 2: are hired as thugs to intimidate and to do these
Speaker 2: psyacts or psychological attacks on the individual individual target while
Speaker 2: their minds are being studied by nearby Department of or
Speaker 2: A d i A and CIA psychologists who are making
Speaker 2: big money studying you and studying you twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: They've got teams of these of d I A, CIA psychologists.
Speaker 2: This is on your dollar, American citizen. And if we
Speaker 2: don't stop this, you know, we deserve what we get
Speaker 2: because we targeted individuals have been trying to tell you.
Speaker 2: Of course, they're very good at burying us and killing us. So,
Speaker 2: but the information is out there. I have studied some
Speaker 2: of the best and the brightest of the targeted individuals.
Speaker 2: It's on my website. We have to turn this around.
Speaker 2: This is the one ring to bind them all. This
Speaker 2: is the secret weapon of the cryptocracy of Satan, if
Speaker 2: you will of you know, you know, Mark Zuckerberg and
Speaker 2: Elon Musk and Bill Gates and all these guys are
Speaker 2: moving towards a psycho civilized world of bio robot slaves.
Speaker 2: And I personally, I believe the humanity, you know, is
Speaker 2: the best in the brightest of God's creation, and that
Speaker 2: the human mind and the soul are sacrosanct, and that
Speaker 2: no one has the right to to interfere with that.
Speaker 2: And what they're doing or crimes against humanity, and they
Speaker 2: are punishable by death. This is high treason, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's a Code eighteen twenty three eighty one or
Speaker 2: whatever says doing this kind of thing is treason. So
Speaker 2: if we were to have a Nuremberg two, we would
Speaker 2: have to put you know, not only the president and
Speaker 2: his administration, but the previous presidents and their administrations. We'd
Speaker 2: have to, you know, we'd have to do to them
Speaker 2: what we did to the Nazis, because this has gone
Speaker 2: on under the radar for the last fifty years. Sixty
Speaker 2: years Kennedy stood up to him, look what happened to him.
Speaker 2: But this has been going on since the sixties. And
Speaker 2: I've got testimony from people who have been chipped back
Speaker 2: in the sixties under microwave attack, brains, being studied by
Speaker 2: these ghoules, by these monsters, by these psychopaths, who deserve
Speaker 2: the death penalty. I would say worse, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a humane guy. I'm trying to be Christian. I'd
Speaker 2: say they deserve, you know, to be cut up and
Speaker 2: thrown in the ocean to the shirks. But it's even
Speaker 2: worse because we're on the cusp. We've known what's happened
Speaker 2: in the past and present, but the future, if it
Speaker 2: doesn't stop it, you're looking at a future that's scrim
Speaker 2: Beyond these dystopias and even the other historical bus you
Speaker 2: could literally have millions of people psychotronically affected by governments
Speaker 2: and just turned into zombies. They're willful slaves like and
Speaker 2: if somebody had cult enough or somebody from the cryptocracy.
Speaker 2: I was trying to just say, and the christ cryptocracy,
Speaker 2: he stays in power. So this, I would say, target
Speaker 2: individual psychotronic weapons is a way for the cryptocracy to
Speaker 2: maintain its power. Really, and so it's pretty dangerous. But
Speaker 2: Eric Calstrom, thanks so much for your time. People go
Speaker 2: check out his websites. Really fascinating interview. Again, he has
Speaker 2: nine to eleven nWo dot com. The one I'm looking
Speaker 2: at right now is gang Stalking, mind Control Cults dot com.
Speaker 2: And then you have three others too, So there's a
Speaker 2: ton of information. I was just scrolling down this one
Speaker 2: part of your mind control history and it's like really
Speaker 2: a book or novel. So people, tons of information and
Speaker 2: you can reach find his contact information on those websites too, correct, Yes,
Speaker 2: I believe so, yes. I get emails from people and
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 1: To respond yeah yeah, okay, cool, all right, Well, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for your time. I really appreciate it. Really
Speaker 1: great interview, really fascinating.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you too. Is you really up on this stuff.
Speaker 2: So we're working together, my friend, and you know, pray
Speaker 2: to God and keep growing to shore because we're up
Speaker 2: against the dark fo now with you know, and they're
Speaker 2: using people, and they're using technology, and this is I
Speaker 2: think what Satan's biggest weapons are is his minions and
Speaker 2: these technologies. So agreed.
Speaker 1: All right, have a great night.
Speaker 2: Take care. Yeah you're two, will In take care.