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and two spores of you are I would assume last

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MSUE thing of the year unless they do a what

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if and you and then that's like you know, other

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kid like, oh, it's in the universe, but like I know,

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we might get a friendly neighborhood. There might be what

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and we're ending with the most anticipated project yet.

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As you can see, there's two of us here. No

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Taylor will join in the future in DYLM may or

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not be. It's conflicting with some of his Wednesday stuff,

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but there'll be a collection of us talking about Agatha

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for the next few weeks to see. You know, what's

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the last MSU show of the year. Gonna give us

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hopefully good stuff, maybe disappointing stuff, who knows, but we're

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gonna find out. So, as usual, we're gonna do our

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non spoils thought. So if you've there's a ton of

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people already on our discratic. Oh I forgot was today

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watch it later, or if you are on the fence,

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but yeah, and we got lots of stuff. We did

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talking about spiermn for rumors and MAK seventeen trailer, and

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we talked about Agatha. Even though you've seen these two episodes,

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the chat GPT predictions that Taylor had cooked up. There

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so it's worth it's worth a listen to the Penguin one.

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It's a good time. And yeah, lots of good stuff

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on the feeds right now. If you're a Marvel fan,

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and five version up on Patreon. And then we got

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nine and all that good jazz. Will tell you more

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lotus on the total pole. So now that you've seen

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the first two episodes, has this made you more confident

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going into episode three and four? Be like, you know what,

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a fair shake, but there can be some looking forward

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to it. Or are you kind of where you were

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just say, yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised. I think so far

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with the start of the show. I think the fact

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steam in their fucking Halloween towns or they're Halloween whatever,

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you know, other Halloween shows about that. I'm sure there's

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thinking about that scene, so yeah, no she Hey Dan,

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the show I probably won't be like rewatching, but who knows,

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but hopefully there is a lot of a lot of

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this show. Now. Am I in a situation where I

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still need the show? No, like you don't need anything,

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level of that, but you know, I'm not gonna talk

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about Agatha first Rings of Power. That's I don't think

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comparable in any way, but just in the sense of

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shit and it's just Catherine Hall and that's what's all good.

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like a Myners boy, we saw like a nude female bottom,

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and I tried to think about them, like, I don't

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know if we've seen that in the MCU. You know,

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we've seen men male like a thor and stuff, but

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have we ever just seen like ash cheeks a lady

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like probably some cheeks.

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think the show and the showrunners they're trying to push

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it as far as they can to kind of be set.

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and that's very tough because I feel like they probably

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got a lot of limitations, but they're trying their best.

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I won't say mystery, but like the McGuff and what

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we're doing. I like the mystery with one character. So yeah,

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so far, I'm I'm really enjoying it. I again have

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to see what happens, and I will obviously, you know,

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lean into my bias that I'm a horror guy. So

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the you know Midnight Suns, what we got with WandaVision,

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some other you know, doctor Strange. I do want Marvel

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to get more into supernatural stuff, and I like the

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concepts that they're throwing out here. So for me, especially

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like you're saying it's Halloween time, I generally like that

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stuff a lot in just other medium Like my favorite

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John rather than Superhero is horror. So maybe that's why

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it's like easier for me to digest, but easily it

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is Catherine Hahn that is like raising it to a

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level where, Okay, I'm wanting to watch this every week

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and be hopefully entertained. But I just right now, the

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way she's like operating, it feels like I'm gonna be

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entertained no matter what the rest of the show could

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end up being shpited around her, but I don't think

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she's gonna be shit. And I'm actually just liking the

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character overall right now because I feel like she's the protagonist.

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But they didn't like make her be some uber good

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girl turn like she still kind of seems like an asshole,

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like villainus in a way right, which I think sometimes

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that can be the issue when I think they did

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that well with Loki too, where okay starts off where

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they should still kind of have some of their villain tendencies, right,

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and then maybe transition into But yeah, no, I'm surprised

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that I'm liking it. I think, like you said, though,

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I don't think it's like for me. I don't see

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this like cracking the top like twenty like. I'm fine

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if it's just like a solid, good time mid pack

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MCU like, that's a fine thing for me. I don't

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need everything to be no way home or endgame like.

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That's fine. I don't need to be civil war. I

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can still be happy with like a seven out of

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ten project. And if this the next episodes, I can't remember,

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I think it's eight or nine. If they can stay

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this quality, I'll be happy by the end of it.

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If it's just like a fun little venture with some

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mc illusions, some magic, maybe setting up a two thing

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here or there. Perfect call me, you know, call me,

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don't call me Shirley, call me happy. That's all I got.

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So anything else, No, the Witch is wrong. All right,

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We're gonna get into it. So if you're not seeing it,

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sounds like I guess we both recommend it, which I

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wouldn't have been saying, not that I think I always

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said that I didn't think the show was ever gonna

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be like maybe awful, but I had no excitement for

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But I'll be curious to see what Taylor thinks next

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we can deal and when we get them on at

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some point, to see what people are thinking. But that

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seems to be the general consensus is like Katherine halln Man,

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she's she's delivering here. So we will take our first

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ad break and then we'll be right back. We are back.

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So they had shown this, I think in some of

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the trailers and everything. But how did you feel the

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first episode primarily being Agatha in a fake true detective

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type of you know, drama, HBO drama. How did you

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feel about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I was intrigued for sure, especially like I love

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the opening how it just like showed like the characters' names,

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not actually like the actors, Yeah, the makers of it's

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like the Danish vendevulge, whatever the hell it was.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I kind of chuckled and it just kind of show

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me glimpses of like WandaVision again of just how weird

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that was, and I I was enjoying it, but I like,

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while it was happening, it's like, are we really just

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doing the WandaVision thing where there's gonna be like a

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whole season of her just kind of figuring out and

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then right at the end of that same episode she

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comes out of it, and I like, it's weird because

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I'm really torn on this because like I did enjoy

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the actual content, but then once it's just like, oh,

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like that's not what's happening, and it's a quick reveal

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in that same episode, it's like do I even do that?

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it's just like if I can see like kind of

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the trick already happening. It was really special in Wanda Vision,

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not just because it was the first time it happened,

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but we really had no idea what was going on,

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but like we're like it just it seems like we

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were getting like really obvious hints of like oh like lately,

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like like they're just using like a witch terminology or

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like like like like it's just so obvious that like

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this is a mind trippy moment for for Catherine Han

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and like she is in West View, so I think

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it's just like it's almost like a magician doing like

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another trick, even though like I've already seen it before

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and I've seen it explain through WandaVision. So but at

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the same time, I also like seeing Catherine Hawn like

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like in that role and and some of the characters that, Like,

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I love the sequence between her and Aubrey Plaza in

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her office. I thought that was fantastic. But by the

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end of the episode, it's like I'm curious if by

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the end of the show, like after the finale, if

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I look back and like, why did we waste that

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episode when we could have spent more time on the

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actual content of like down the Riches Road and and

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stuff like that. But as of right now, I would

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definitely say I'm very in the middle on it. Uh,

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what about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would keep this stuff, but it's tough,

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but I say, like cut it in half and maybe

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not just like take out stuff because that's something I

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didn't mention and I don't think he did either. In

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the non splores. It definitely does. Even though we don't

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have Vision or Wanda. It feels like a sequel to

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Wanna Vision. They have other than them, and like, of course,

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I guess there's like the Shield Asians and Darcy. But

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there's tons, tons of all the Westview characters that will say,

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where did it say? East View? I missed that? Then?

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Where why did it? Where? Where did it say?

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Speaker 1: Sue? I think they go back and forth from West

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U and East U. I'll uh, that's we're gone, I'll

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pull it up. I think definitely him has to.

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Speaker 2: I'll believe you.

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Speaker 1: I just wish I had an obvious example of it.

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It's like multiple times, but but and and teen, that

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guy he like teen, He says that like before. I

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think it's the second episode actually when he's explaining that,

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when he's explaining like like his.

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Speaker 2: Orange teen, Okay, I was like, who the fuck are

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you talking aboutn't.

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Speaker 1: Say his name right? Every time he says his name,

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it like mutes him. And then when he's explained his origin,

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he says, well, I'm from Eastview and then it just

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like cuts out. So multiple multiple times.

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Speaker 2: But okay, there we go. Now right, we will refer

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to him as teen for now, so but we'll go

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with that.

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Speaker 1: This is his name on IMDb.

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Speaker 2: It is okay, I didn't know that that's fair, and

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they never say his name in the show for obvious reasons, but.

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Speaker 1: She calls him teen Dean.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. Yeah, I get, I get. I thought she

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shows with some other sort of name, like pet name

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for him, but that was like degrading. But anyways, so

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but yeah, they it feels like a successor to banda Vision.

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Of course, like I said, A Vision and Wanda are

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not there, but Westview plays a big part off Siegatha.

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But all those towns people come back. So I do

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like seeing that. I like in this whole true detective

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world where you know, one guy's a f you know

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he's a sergeant, the other guy is like Dottie's working

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at the live ear. I like that. But I think

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you could have just taken each scene and shortened it

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a little bit, because I do like that connection to

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one A Vision. I do like it feels like, Okay,

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this is all in the same world. It's not just

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okay Atha Boom breaks his balance, she's off. So I

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like theirs because the show does end in a way

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where she's set to live in Westview, right, so it

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should make sense that she's kind of having to be

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around some of these people. So I really like ask

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that aspect. I just don't think the whole episode. I'd

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say the episode's like, I don't know, because how does

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episode one end? Like, what's the last thing that happens

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in it?

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Speaker 1: She's in her home, Teen is in the closet, and

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then oh my gosh, like some something like she like

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looks at something and then says a comment, and then

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it ends. And then the start of episode two is

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her in the house talking to Teen.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, she fights I'll be plaid in the episode

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one though, right that happens? Yes, yeah, okay, so that's

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kind of the ending. Okay, So to me, that's the

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thing where I think you don't need I think there's

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a couple just edits I would make this episode. But yeah,

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I liked the concept. I think it just went on

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for too long. I guess to say short and sweet

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that they should have kept at short and sweet. I

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think whatever, if the screen time was seventy five percent,

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I think it should have been maybe a fifty to

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fifty where Okay, if this episode's forty minutes make twenty

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minutes of the detective stuff. Maybe I'd have to clock

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it and see when it switches over, because there is

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some those moments in One Division right where it's the

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same thing a you know, quote unquote show is happening,

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but something's breaking reality, something is happening where you're okay,

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this is not off all like you said, you know

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some of the wordplay. Even Aubrey Plaza, many times she'll

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stay stuff like oh, this is really what you want

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to be doing right now, and there's like, yeah, I

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want to go in the case, and then Aubrey Plaz

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like switches back to the detective character or the FBI character,

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which I really like. So I like those moments. I

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think it just was eventually like okay, I think we

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kind of get it. I do like the her climbing

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back to be Agatha, like going through all the outfits

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from Wan Division. I think that was a fun scene.

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And I like them using all the dead Audi illusions

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to that being wand of like you know the date

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and they say, oh, well you know where she fell. No,

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she was crushed. And I really like what she's talking

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back and forth with the cop at the beginning, it's like, oh, yeah,

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she's dead for sure, surely, and then yeah, there's no

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coming back from that. It's like they're really hitting you

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over the head of like it's almost a Deadpool winkie

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way of like yeah, we know one is not dead,

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but like they are in a way trying to, I

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don't know, give a wink and nudge like yeah, we

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get it. But for the story, she's gonna be dead.

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And even then, it doesn't look like Wanda right now

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is gonna play much into it. That's just the setup

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for getting Agatha out of there. So that's where I

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am where I enjoyed it, but I could maybe I

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would enjoy this more if each episode was an hour,

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you know, but it's yeah, right now, they're both longer.

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At least they're forty but we've all said that with

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Marvel two, where all these are a bit longer, and

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then come episode five it's like twenty three minutes, like

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what the fuck's going on? So yeah, I could have

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used a little less, but I still enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: So yes, agreed, What do you.

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Speaker 2: Think of the actual Agath again now? And then a'lbrey

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plaza So far as I don't think they've named draw

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Rio Yeah, yeah, Rio, Yeah, And I think that's I

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think she's gonna be somebody.

472
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: Else there but interesting, okay, the black Heart whatever she is, yeah,

473
00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:25,519
I I, I mean yeah, I kind of I think

474
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,759
I touched upon this in my spoiler free section of

475
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,359
just like the actual plot of what's going on of

476
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,440
like her trying to get the power back and finding

477
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,759
these which is going down this this which is road.

478
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,160
It's not it's not like the most interesting thing by

479
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960
any mean, like that sounded really harsh to way have

480
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,839
said that. It's not like my top tier favorite MCU

481
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,599
maybe storyline to follow, but yeah, for this story, like

482
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,240
I I actually really like it. I like that it's

483
00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:55,640
not some big world ending type situation that like interferes

484
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,279
with projects that have kind of already happened, because maybe

485
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,440
on the timeline of that, like this is set right

486
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,079
after Wanda, like right like like if I'm thinking about.

487
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,279
Speaker 2: What, I don't think so they three years, right they

488
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,960
because they said, yeah, they said you've been here for

489
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,200
three years. So I guess technically that Agava has been

490
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,240
there for a while and one has been dead and

491
00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:23,319
Multiverse Manness came out in twenty twenty so they're like

492
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,440
a year ahead in twenty twenty five, so yeah, they're

493
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,000
saying it's three years after that.

494
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:30,759
Speaker 1: So okay. Yeah, So it's it's close to at least

495
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,680
to the common timeline, the modern timeline, what's going on.

496
00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:39,119
But I don't know, Like I do like that the

497
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,599
adventure is kind of adjacent to the overall story. I'm

498
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,680
curious how it's gonna end of kind of like what's

499
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,920
going on with Agatha going forward, just just for the

500
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480
future of the character and Katherine Hans's inclusion in the

501
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:52,960
overall MCU. I don't think she's gonna like die at

502
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,240
the end of this, and I don't think she's just

503
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:58,240
gonna like retire. I think that would be weird. Who knows,

504
00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:00,799
maybe maybe they could write the story in such a way.

505
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:02,920
But like even just the fact that we have this

506
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,599
project right now makes me think that like she could

507
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:09,559
be seen at least some point going forward. I think

508
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:11,480
you kind of touch what But it's just it's funny

509
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,599
like the era of mc where like they just announced

510
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,440
all these shows and some of these shows aren't happening.

511
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,680
And when I started this episode, I was like just

512
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,200
thinking to myself, like this is so strange actually, like

513
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:26,279
this show is actually like still happening, just just because

514
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,240
of what's been going on, you know, in the last

515
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,720
few years with the MCU. But yeah, getting getting back

516
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,440
to your question at hand of just the overall mystery

517
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,680
story of how she's gonna get her power back. I

518
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,680
am invested in it, and I think it's really intriguing

519
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,839
obviously for Catherine Han, but also just for Agatha as

520
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,960
a character. I don't know too much about her. She's

521
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,799
a Marvel snap card, you know, other than what I like.

522
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: Experience, I guess the Connoisseur either, So.

523
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like obviously Wanda Vision, but like Midnight Suns,

524
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,680
like she she has a like a role in that game,

525
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,880
which is fantastic. But I really don't know too much

526
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,759
about her, and I think just the fact that she

527
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,799
is like such a wild card of a character. It's

528
00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:12,319
it's showing already in these first two episodes of when

529
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,599
they're doing like the little Seance Rachel whatever you'd call it,

530
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,519
and she just like one another which is like calls

531
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,559
her out that like she didn't even want them here

532
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:22,440
in the first place, like she is just egging them on.

533
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,680
And then she just like admits it. It's like, blast me,

534
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,359
you bitches.

535
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

536
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: I love that line. But I like how she is

537
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,799
kind of a wild card, and even us following her

538
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,599
as our protagonists, we don't we don't even know her

539
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:37,359
full motivations or what she has planned, and that makes

540
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920
it exciting and intriguing. And obviously you have some spooky

541
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,319
stuff going on there in the background that I do enjoy,

542
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,400
and even just the overall look of the road, I'm

543
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,960
I'm I don't know how much time we're going to

544
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,839
be spending there over all on the show, but it

545
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480
looks good on this first appearance when they tiptoe down

546
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:55,400
the trail.

547
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I hope we spend most of the time, like I

548
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000
would like, Yeah, other than the finale, even the fnale,

549
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,319
Like it's like, I hope it's not to like so

550
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,400
we can use the volume, but like I want it

551
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960
to be, you know, you sparingly, but yeah, i'd like

552
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680
it's like that puts it aside, like I could see

553
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,559
them midway point they get out of there, But I

554
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,519
feel like you can add in from the train when

555
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:18,920
we saw demons and monsters and stuff. Hopefully with each

556
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,720
stop you can add something along the way. But yeah,

557
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,640
like you said, that's the thing where it's like, yeah,

558
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,119
if i'm ranking my top storyline mcguffins, I'm like, oh,

559
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,359
when Agatha went down the road. But for me, as

560
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,640
I've said before, I still prefer this in these type

561
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,880
of movies because I don't want if this gets to

562
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,480
a point where it gets to the road and then

563
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,559
at the end it's like we have to stop, you know,

564
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,160
so and so on it's gonna tear the ever you know. Yes, yeah,

565
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,720
there's gonna be a wormhole and all the teams are

566
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,039
gonna come on the shore. We're like, no, I don't

567
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:49,920
want that like this and tim where Yeah, it should

568
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,480
just be about hey, this show's about Catherine Hall and

569
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,960
playing Agatha and that's going well and she wants to

570
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,519
get her powers back done, like make the conflict with

571
00:26:57,559 --> 00:26:59,559
the characters with that, I don't need it to be

572
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:01,960
even if you want to go the greater mcu of

573
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:05,640
you know, finding Wander some minutes, not sure, but I

574
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,400
don't need that with Especially the Disney Plus shows to me,

575
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,880
should never ever be world ending scenarios. To me, those

576
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,799
should be like the the fun tie ins the comics

577
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,240
where you don't have to read them, but it helps

578
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,319
a lot. Like I've always said before that there's gonna

579
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,519
be tons of people that saw Endgame and then they're

580
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,799
gonna see the new Captain America movie and they never

581
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,119
need to show to They never needed a television show

582
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,519
to realize that. Like Sam's Captain America's endgame was he

583
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,400
got the shield and he's like, I'll do my best.

584
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720
You don't need an origin for that, but I like

585
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,000
that it's there, right, And even then they never got

586
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,240
to world ending things. It's just like, oh, these terrorists,

587
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,519
so I like that as a motivation for her. I

588
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,640
like the other characters they gave them again very just

589
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,839
like it's a trope of we meet character, they say no,

590
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,400
and it's like, well, because of this, X, Y, and Z,

591
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,440
you should do this, Like each character has a reason

592
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,160
like well, I guess I really need it, Like I

593
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,759
wish one of them was just like, yeah, I'm in

594
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:58,440
because I really would like to get this power. But

595
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,160
all of them were getting their arm twists. Oh right.

596
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,079
It's the classic, very cliche heist thing where the girl

597
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,160
says like, don't I'm fine doing my products. They're like, oh,

598
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,799
you've a lawsuit. It's like, alright, that's the stuff I

599
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,640
don't need, Like it's just like it's But that's fine

600
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,519
because the show's a bit more comedic, and I think

601
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,720
again that Catherine Haughnan has had chemistry with all these people,

602
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,160
and so far, I like the other witches. I really like.

603
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,480
I can't remember her real name, but obviously the Month

604
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,599
and the seventy show. Yeah, because I was wondering. I

605
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,440
knew she was in the show. We saw our trailers,

606
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,640
but I was like, okay, how does this happen? And

607
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,559
the idea is okay, she doesn't want to bring in

608
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,319
an actual green witch, which is I would presume what

609
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Aubrey Plaz was supposed to be, right, So she brings

610
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:42,160
in Kitty, who is like a gardener who they did

611
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,799
it in Cannon Whi. It's her husband that she had

612
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,920
and Wanavision has passed away, so she's just a lonely

613
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960
widow just looking for a girl's night, looking to hang out.

614
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,599
And for me, that's where sometimes in shows movies, I

615
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,759
could see somebody like, oh, this is gonna suck for me.

616
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,839
I'm like, oh, this has fun stuff written all over,

617
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,200
because she is no idea what they're chanting everything but

618
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,480
she still chooses like even any of this says like,

619
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,279
all right, have your other like you shouldn't are getting

620
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,880
off the pot. She said something else more specifically, but

621
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,160
it's just like yeah, like are you just gonna jump

622
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,359
in and join us on this magical venture or go

623
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,319
back home? And she's got nothing to lose. She's a widow,

624
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,759
she's bored. Yeah, sure, let's come along. And that's great

625
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,799
that a'll leave their shoes there. So I'm I'm liking

626
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,799
the setup where we got there and even the uh

627
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,240
I can't remember her name, but the one my favorite

628
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,680
origin of the maybe kitty, but is the girl that's

629
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440
going there because Agatha. To me, this felt more right

630
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,839
where her mom walked the Witch's Road and that was

631
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:38,599
the last time she's ever heard of No one knows

632
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:42,039
what happens to her. The daughter originally says no, and

633
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:44,240
she goes, well, you know, if you don't do that,

634
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,279
you're never gonna find what happened to your mom. I

635
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,480
like that more than oh there's a law suit or

636
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,160
oh you're not making much money off your fortune telling readings,

637
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,119
Like I would have been fine with one of those,

638
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,200
and there's really only two. So it's not that bad,

639
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,440
but I just felt it was like a little rinse

640
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,079
and repeat, like that's all we can think of, is

641
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,880
like a money sort of thing. But I like that

642
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,039
origin of a character being like, hey, don't like Agatha,

643
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,000
I don't even want the power. I would just like

644
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,720
the opportunity to find what happened to my mom. And

645
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,160
I hope they continue that through line every episode. Maybe

646
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,680
it's just like a little bit added. I don't need

647
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,880
like the full episode dedicated to it. But that was like, Okay,

648
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
I can buy this of a character. Yeah, that's something

649
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,279
where it'd be the same thing like in real life

650
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:21,640
if someone goes missing, that would nag at you forever, right,

651
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,400
and this is your chance to get that answer. So

652
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,559
for the most part, they give a little origins and

653
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,880
he just wants to go for he has abilities, but

654
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,000
he doesn't have power. So I was very confused on

655
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960
that origin kind of point. It was weird because like

656
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,799
he could break one to spell, you can do these things,

657
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,960
but he's say, but I don't actually have power. But

658
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,880
it's like to me, that would be a power. You're

659
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,319
almost like a defensive sort of power, but like you know.

660
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: I am really curious of just who this character is.

661
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640
I think they did a good job at the mystery

662
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,279
aspect of it.

663
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: You weren't on the when we did the predictions. You

664
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,279
were on the you weren't on the portion when I

665
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,680
spoiled who this character was, right, No, okay, because I

666
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400
won't say it. I won't say it. Yeah, Dylan and

667
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Taylor didn't know, and I thought it's been like a

668
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,200
known secret and even some people like we've talked about

669
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,160
this jeway like it's just like for us, it's like no,

670
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:15,960
but I'm not gonna say anything. But it is like,

671
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,599
uh like I think will be in the end up

672
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,799
being an important character.

673
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: So awesome. No, that's exciting. I like, how do you know?

674
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: It was just because to No, it's just that when

675
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,960
he got cast, it was pretty much it's this character.

676
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,720
And then they're doing the thing like well that no,

677
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,640
I don't know who that is, so I'm just playing

678
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400
this character. It's like yeah, right, like but it's definitely

679
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,039
a certain character.

680
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: This is where it's it's nice to be, you know,

681
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,839
Ignorance is bliss. It's like when you you you don't

682
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,799
watch a trailer for for something and then you go

683
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,440
into a line and it ends up being a good movie.

684
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,119
You're you're surprised, so I, yeah, hopefully I'll stay clear

685
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,319
of any spoilers. And that's sense because I think for

686
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920
the show wise, like if if you're like me and

687
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,680
you just jump in without knowing you, I think they're

688
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,559
doing a good job of just building up the anticipation

689
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,119
of who he is, because, yeah, I am very intrigued

690
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,359
on who this character is.

691
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't even matter who he is. It's like,

692
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:14,440
why can't he's like what sort of spell or enchantment

693
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,640
or whatever is around him that he can't say because

694
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,680
he asked for his name and then he tries to

695
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,400
say that and then they you know, it gets blurred

696
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,319
out twice, and then even his whole origin. It's just

697
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,960
like Agatha has like ringing ears and can't hear anything

698
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,759
when he's talking about worries from his family, everything like that.

699
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,599
So I'm like that any sort of information, I'm curious

700
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,200
to see what's gonna happen if another character asks him this,

701
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,920
like is this just for Agatha or is everybody in

702
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,799
this world? If he's asked, he can't, you know, and

703
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,519
he doesn't know any better, but he can't say where

704
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,759
he's from and even then we saw like in episode

705
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,160
one Aubrey Plais was there to she said just to

706
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,920
her like it's a weird thing where she kind of

707
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,839
maybe wants her back, but then she wants to hurt her.

708
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:57,960
But even Katherin Hant says like, oh, you can't kill me.

709
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,799
I guess she says there's a rule again, SAP. So

710
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400
clearly I'm not sure whether it was Agatha or someone else,

711
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920
she's putting some spell and chapping on herself that Aubrey

712
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Plais's character as of right now can't kill her. So

713
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:11,720
it's the same thing. I'm like, Okay, who and why

714
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680
put this thing onto the teen? I almost said the

715
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:19,319
character's name said to this teen? And why does he

716
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,160
not even know about?

717
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,279
Speaker 1: Right?

718
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Because it's not like a thing where he's like, oh,

719
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,440
I'm trying to tell people who I am, but they

720
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,359
can't hear me. He has no idea. He just thinks

721
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:27,960
as taking in all this information about is that it's

722
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:28,599
not the truth.

723
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, where else do you? Uh? Deborah Joe Rep

724
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,799
that's her name, by the way, what's your last name?

725
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:40,680
Are U? P? P?

726
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you think? Atmosphere of her at the

727
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,720
end is she gonna get powers.

728
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:50,519
Speaker 1: I think it's possible.

729
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: I think I think you would assume, right if you

730
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,759
make it. And yeah, and all these other characters their

731
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
whole pitches like I'm either going to be more powerful

732
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,480
or get my powers back at the end. So it's like, well,

733
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,400
you know, especially.

734
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: If she's like a gardener, it'd be fun if she

735
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,199
kind of gets you know, green powers, like how she's

736
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,320
supposed to be filling that role. It would be it'd

737
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,199
be fun if if that ends up being the case.

738
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,119
Or she could just die too, I guess, like fucking

739
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:20,880
a VP requiem just sure a kinned in the hallway.

740
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,599
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't have a husband waiting for he or anything. Right,

741
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,000
So it's not like if she dies people are gonna

742
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:26,559
I'm sure some neighbors will notice, but like they those

743
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:29,440
neighbors are fucking weird. They're just like, oh, you're pretending

744
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360
like you had a true crime kick and we were

745
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,039
just playing along with you. It's like, what the fuck

746
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:33,800
does that even mean?

747
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I did like the scene when Cather

748
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Haun's out there just fully nude and like just like

749
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,119
the neighbors like reaction everything that's going on. It's so

750
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,159
when she's just like she's like annoyed of it, and

751
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,119
she like knows.

752
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,199
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, there's the jeweler.

753
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great.

754
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,159
Speaker 2: And I want to mention this before you go, because

755
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,639
I'll probably forget it. They did mention that they don't

756
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,280
speak one is name at Westview. It's like, you know,

757
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:00,800
the I thought they did.

758
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I thought they I thought they did win. Uh Deborah

759
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:10,599
Joe reup. She because because because uh, I'm on first

760
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:11,840
name art.

761
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: Or something like that, right, she calls her by her

762
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,079
WandaVision show name.

763
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she's like, oh, like like that was

764
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,800
a one, like that was what Wanda gave me.

765
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: But remember when she was talking to her cop buddy

766
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,039
at like with the first guy when she's naked, and

767
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:27,079
she's like, oh, well, I don't say that. We don't

768
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,920
say that name around there. So yeah, exactly, the house

769
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,559
is still broken down burnt there, and there's like a

770
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,800
you know, spray paint evil Witch and then her logo

771
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,079
and stuff. So I want to bring that up that

772
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,679
the town still uh Wanda still has a presence there

773
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,519
in a sense.

774
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, you just reminded me of the

775
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400
sequence when she's still in like the cop dream world

776
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:51,280
and she's in the library and she looks like the

777
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,360
like the burnt stack of books and just like that

778
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,920
guy's behind her. That was actually like such a chilling

779
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,840
sequence that there was a couple freaky moments that that's

780
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,840
how happened so far in this first two episodes, and

781
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,360
I hope they stay on that because I think it's

782
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,960
it's it's like a goosebumps level of horror in my opinion,

783
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,639
which you know, like I was watching with Shane. She

784
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:12,960
was getting a little freaked out with the what do

785
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,320
they call the Salem Seven. I'm assuming that's what they are,

786
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,119
the creatures that are chasing her. But it's like a

787
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,440
nice level of horror that fits with just the Marvel

788
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,000
brand and and like just just what the show is

789
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,639
doing so far. So I did like it. Obviously I

790
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,079
can handle a little bit scarier, but I think for

791
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,960
what this is and like because it's not just like

792
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:39,119
jump scares and like a really terrifying horror, like I

793
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,360
think it fits on that like fun aspect of a

794
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,679
Halloween movie or project or show or something like that.

795
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:48,199
So yeah, I like all that stuff.

796
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Seven. I think the like a

797
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,719
fun bad guy. You know a thing that'll pop up

798
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,360
a bunch throughout the show. It ties to the first

799
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,559
or ties to wan vision, right, because she took out

800
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,519
the whatever, the sale or that whatever. They showed that

801
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,400
whole thing where she sucked up their powers, which I'm

802
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,239
not sure in Wanda vision if they said this, but

803
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,559
at least for me confirmed that she can't stuck up

804
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:11,960
their powers unless they blast her. I guess she can't

805
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,480
just like take them. I think we kind of I

806
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,119
think you could see that visually. I just don't know

807
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,320
if that was like outright said in the show. So

808
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,559
it's kind of good to have to confirm because at

809
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:22,360
first the which is where at least one of them

810
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,559
wasn't gonna work with them because they couldn't tust He's like, well,

811
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:26,079
she had to like show her hand of like, well,

812
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,440
I actually can't take anything from you unless you blast me.

813
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,760
So as long as you don't do that, like I'm

814
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,119
kind of stuck. So which I thought was like that's

815
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,440
why I like I gufa at times in this episode,

816
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,159
and this is a pause of was giving those Jack

817
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:41,719
Sparrow type of vibes were very like, very confident, very egotistical,

818
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,840
but the end of the day kind of kind of

819
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,800
be a little pathetic and has to show their hand

820
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,800
to maybe make a deal or something right, And that's

821
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,559
where I I would come in very hot, but it's like, well,

822
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,840
you still need to come and to get this thing

823
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,519
going if you want to go down the Riches Road, right,

824
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,599
which they did say she had been down before, which

825
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,679
again I don't know if that's something they'd send wand

826
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,599
a vision, but it's like, okay, that's a because she

827
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:01,960
knew right way to take the shoes off. So I

828
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,599
think that's kind of interesting because she can be the

829
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,119
guide throughout that we don't have to meet hopefully some

830
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,480
exposition character, which I thought, that's what the I didn't

831
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,760
mind it, but I thought the Aubrey Plaza scene in

832
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,239
the middle, where's she finds teen in the clause and

833
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,920
she like, well, if you're here, that means and then

834
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960
the house starts to shake and Aubrey Plaza shows up.

835
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,760
For me, it just felt like two things of One,

836
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,000
this show has not had a lot of actions, so

837
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,320
let's throw a fight scene in here, and then two,

838
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Aubrey Plaza is gonna give us everything of like you

839
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:31,679
don't have your powers. This is how you could get

840
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,519
it back. Salem's Lots cut like the Salem's Seven, Like

841
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,320
I think there was maybe a couple other ones, but

842
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,039
just felt like, okay that it is needed. I wish

843
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:42,840
there was just maybe like a more natural way because

844
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,119
and then Aubrey Plazz just goes away because she can't

845
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,800
apparently hurt her. So it just felt like I wouldn't

846
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,639
find if she disappeared until like clearly Plaza's coming back

847
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:52,840
later on the show, So I wouldn't find for that

848
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,199
fight scene not to happen. But I get why they did.

849
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,920
I just wish there was maybe another way around it.

850
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I think I'm gonna agreeance with you.

851
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,079
I think that sequence was a little bit weak for

852
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:08,840
me overall. I just like, I don't know if you

853
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,280
have Aubrey just kill her right there, like that's just

854
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,880
the end of the show the show, So I get

855
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,880
why that doesn't happen, but like she just has her

856
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,800
like deads to rights and she clearly like wants to

857
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,199
kill her, and then it's just like, don't you want

858
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,159
to kill me when I'm more formidable and my power's back,

859
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,599
and it's like okay, well, Salem seven, we'll get you,

860
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,280
so I'll just be out of here. It just it

861
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,000
was weird because it seemed like she was fully intent

862
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:30,719
with killing her until she said that, and it's like, oh, yeah,

863
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
maybe I could leave you alone. So to me, it

864
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:37,400
like makes the real character, which is Audrey Audrey Aubrey,

865
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:41,960
Oh my god, is it Aubrey or Audrey? Okay, I

866
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,760
had a mental moment there, like like it just makes

867
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,159
that character a little bit dumber in my mind.

868
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:48,639
Speaker 2: Well that's why I wasn't sure was it that or

869
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:50,920
was it because like she says, it was against the rules.

870
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,599
So because you're right that she said the whole like,

871
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:54,960
oh you want me at my full strength, So I

872
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,079
was more fine with it. Of okay, if there's some

873
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,840
enchantment she can't kill yeah, so that makes sense. But

874
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,480
the whole that's such a lame blot of like, oh,

875
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,000
you want me your best but it's like no, like

876
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:06,599
I would just want to kill you. It's such a

877
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,559
it's such a plot armor for our main character.

878
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,599
Speaker 1: And like, I think you can have the same scene

879
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,400
and she just pops up there and just like this

880
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,199
is a warning the Salem set coming for you like

881
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,400
watch Out and that's that, you know, like like nothing

882
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,079
else more.

883
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: And the fact that she's powered ath is not like

884
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:22,480
if it doesn't have a near power. So it just

885
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,320
feels like I'll be planted. Like she couldn't even like

886
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480
win like a like a tussle with her, like it

887
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,079
was like an even match for until the end, it's like, well,

888
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,400
I feel like you should pop off and be whipping

889
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,679
her around, even if she would have had her dead

890
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,440
to right to be like, hey, I could have killed you,

891
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,840
because she did say in that episode, I guess it goes, well,

892
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,400
you don't have a heart. She goes, well, I do

893
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
have a heart. It's black and it beats for you.

894
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,000
So it's like, Okay, they're insinuate. They insinuate multiple times

895
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,840
that they were a couple in the past, insinuate that

896
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,119
they still feelings for each other. You could have just

897
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,320
done that where oh she couldn't bring herself to do it,

898
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
but you know someone else will like I don't know.

899
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,679
There's just like multiple avenues that I think they could

900
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:02,079
have went that felt more clean than what they did,

901
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,039
which just kind of got convoluted there.

902
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:08,159
Speaker 1: And I agree, Yeah.

903
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: But even though plaus is great. That's thing, Like she's

904
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480
one of those actuals that like raises the uh, the

905
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,119
quality of a signific even if it's subpar. And I'm

906
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,239
interested to see where that all goes with those two.

907
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: So and just like what her inclusion is going to

908
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:24,320
be going forward, because judging from the trailers, it's not

909
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,360
like she is this you know character all in black

910
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,440
with Daggers that's like trying to kill Agatha. So just

911
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:34,000
kind of like what happens there. Yeah, I'm looking forward

912
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:34,320
to that.

913
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anything I liked Teen? Overall? I found

914
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,679
him and Agatha good chemistry. I like that he's just

915
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:43,559
just a little lackey.

916
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: So I was worried he was gonna be really annoying

917
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,119
and like too much, and it's like, h this is

918
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:50,480
actually a nice level. I appreciate this.

919
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's with Agatha all the time in the

920
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,320
episode two, but it like, like you said, I appreciated it.

921
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,320
I was always worried when you get that young side kicking.

922
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,000
Oh anyway, So.

923
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: And like I think the mystery aspect of him is

924
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,559
another thing that just lifts it overall. So I think

925
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:10,280
what they're doing with a team right now is actually

926
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,880
quite good. And I am excited for that reveal when

927
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,159
it comes, and hopefully it's not super disappointing. I'm like,

928
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,119
that's it, really, I don't know, No.

929
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: I think I don't think it will be. I think

930
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,840
it's going to be one of those that happens at

931
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,719
the end of an episode and then that's gonna be like,

932
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,360
get to wait till the next week, and then.

933
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: It's just my fisto. Finally, it's like we waited all

934
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,880
through one division. I think I'd already mentioned it, but

935
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,000
I love the moment when they do the chant and

936
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,039
then it doesn't work and she's just like shit talking everyone,

937
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,639
just like you like such mediocrity. Why do you think

938
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:41,480
I would even bring you on the Witch's role? Like

939
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,840
you don't even belong there. Like I just loved her

940
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,960
getting to that level. And then fast forward a couple

941
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minutes later, she's like, I had no doubt in my

942
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tem it's just like Catherine Han being so charismatic and

943
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just just being great in that moment. And it's such

944
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,599
like a quick line. But I think you do that

945
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,840
line with like a hundred different actors and you just

946
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,559
get it in such a different way. And she's yeah,

947
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she has a certain pizzage she puts on it, so

948
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good stuff. Let's see. I I'm like, I feel like

949
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I mostly just talked about the first episode. No we

950
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told episodes.

951
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Speaker 2: Episode two is like that recruiting episode, and that's where

952
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,639
that's where for me, I was a little bummed and

953
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,519
why I wish, I wish. But I also think it

954
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:26,440
would have been smart to do a third episode because

955
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,159
episode two does feel there's like at least half of

956
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960
it that is very formulaic. Right, we know it's gonna

957
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,840
be she's gonna pop up to it, Like I said,

958
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,519
pop up a ram. People give them a reason and

959
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,880
other reasons sometimes like all right, I guess this works

960
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,639
and then go and assemble the team. So it just

961
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,320
felt like a there wasn't gonna be much surprise, and

962
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,440
there there really wasn't, you know, there was just more

963
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,440
kind of world steps. That's why I hope next week,

964
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,880
episode three, we have some really cool uh moments that

965
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,440
are very supernatural.

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00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: So I will say though, I feel like there is

967
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,719
a universe where episode one happens. Then episode two her recruiting,

968
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,119
like one member. Episode three is her recruiting. God Yeah,

969
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,440
and like what a slog that could have been, So

970
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:08,440
I am happy that they just kind of got through

971
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480
it all in the second episode there.

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Speaker 2: And we are already have the richest the Witches Road too,

973
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which I like, there was a part of me that

974
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
worried that that was gonna be like a midway season

975
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:19,000
point thing. And the fact that hey, episode two ends

976
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,840
with them on this road. The last shows them walking

977
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,960
down and the roads in the fore or in the

978
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,599
back front our backview. I don't know, I'm combining words now,

979
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and that to me is like okay, yeah, like that

980
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,840
to me, that is alluding that next week should have

981
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,320
fun stuff going on, adventures and everything. But maybe it's

982
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,320
a flashback episode to Kitty's husband's funeral or something.

983
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm convinced now

984
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960
that like most of the show will happen actually on

985
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,239
this this which is road type area, because it also

986
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,639
just gets us away from Westview, and because we set

987
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,519
the whole WandaVision there, I think that it is a

988
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:02,440
smart idea to go elsewhere. So yeah, I don't even

989
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,880
know if it was you that convinced me, but just

990
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,679
the overall conversation all yeah, it was Travis along, it.

991
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:13,119
Speaker 2: Was Yeah, me all along. Let me bring up my notes.

992
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:14,159
But I think I hit on.

993
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,159
Speaker 1: I have negative notes I talked to me.

994
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that that's about it. So yeah, we'll

995
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,119
be back next week. There'll be a culmination of us

996
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,599
talking about Agatha. See what happens. Hopefully it continues this

997
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,840
momentum and we get to be another positive view because

998
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,039
at the end of the day, unless it's really bad,

999
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:35,960
it's so good. I think we all prefer to have

1000
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some positivity and the things we talk about because it

1001
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,199
leads to just happiness. So I hope you're happy with

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this review. We will be back next week and many

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other times this week for all multiple other shows, and

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it'll not be boring, but