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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist

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and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just

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as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Molly,

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did you see the candidate Maine who accidentally got a

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Nazi tattoo? At one point?

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Speaker 2: So, I've seen a little bit about this person. I

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feel like he was in the news for having what

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was this, like one of the many people who are

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being outed for bad texts or something.

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Speaker 1: He did that as well. Yeah, his name is me

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is a Graham Planter. He's a candidate for the Democratic

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Senate seat in Maine. I believe he is. I bet

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I believe the other person running is like an old

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seventy eight year old governor, is it? But one had

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out at him with it's not even a Nazi tattoo.

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It's actually an SS tattoo. It's that skull with the crossbones.

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It's called like a totten com or something like that.

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I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. He came

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out and said, I'm not a secret Nazi when he

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was on pod Saves America. That podcast reminded me slightly

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if I am not a witch. I don't know. It's

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a while back for people. What is that Delaware?

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Speaker 2: Christine? Christine? What O'donald?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I think so where that come from?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's right. I A lot so some

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people have defended him, saying, listen, if you walk into

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a tattoo parlor, you know, and you just get something

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that looks cool, it's probably going to be. Now he

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apparently got this in Croatia while he was in the Marines.

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I think, I say that's bs. I mean, if you

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don't know over the years you've lived, right, and you

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have this tattoo that is in movie after movie as

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a clear Nazi insignia SS insignia, and no one's mentioned

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that to you, I just I don't buy it. I'm listen.

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I'm not saying the guy's in Nazi today, But you know,

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if you mark yourself in that way, I think it

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says something about you. And if you didn't know, I

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don't think really that you should be a US senator.

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I feel like maybe that's not the job for you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I really feel like I

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need to know more about this person in their life,

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but so I know very little, and I apologize that,

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but I want to say that I did read that

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he The reason why we have pictures of this tattoo

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that he got is because it was a wedding that

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he gave his brother and his brother's wife or his

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sister and her husband or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well two songs. Oh, I heard it to.

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Speaker 2: Sing a Taylor Swift song or a Miley cyrus song

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with his shirt off at their wedding, And I think

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that's a bigger problem than the tattoo. In a way,

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Eddie's scary was saying, like, what a horrible wedding gift

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to make someone else's wedding be all about you and

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people having to watch you uncomfortably.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. I have long maintained

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that too many people are taking their shirts off in public.

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I think that the people who want to be naked

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are the last people we want to see naked. I

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think that this guy from the pictures I saw of

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him singing Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball in the two thousand

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and seven wedding, which is also in Croatia. You tell

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me no net that wedding's like, hey, bro, why do

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you have a Nazi tattoo right with the shirt off?

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Speaker 2: Is it a common one? I saw it. It's like

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a skull, But is that a common win or does

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it read like tough guy, military guy?

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Speaker 1: To me? Like?

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Speaker 2: How do people? How many symbols are there? I'm familiar

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with the swastika and the.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you watch if you watch Inglorious Bastards

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or if you watch like any well, there you go,

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they'll have the SS insignia. It's pretty famous. I just

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don't buy his story. I think it's it's it's ridiculous.

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And also I think if you have a tattoo like that,

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like who was it? Pete Heseth? You know he has

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all these tattoos and people were trying to pretend that

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they were some kind of you know, white supremacist tattoos.

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Speaker 2: They were like the.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's yeah, that those are like I'm a tough guy,

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you know tattoos or you know that those tattoos say

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something and they might make people on the left kind

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of uncomfortable, but I've seen them all over.

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Speaker 2: I say, we have Jerusalem crosses at my church were

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not tough. By tough.

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Speaker 1: What I mean is he's got more than that, you know.

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I mean, he's got you know, it's a certain aesthetic.

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forces or I'm you know, like this and it looks

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like it's the only one he has. I mean, let's

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be honest. I'm kind of sick of giving everyone the

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benefit of the doubt on this sort of thing. Hey,

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you want to vote for the guy. I'm sure he's

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changed his mind. I think he's like a far left

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wing guy is and he you know, you want to

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vote for him. Both for him, I don't care. But

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let's not pretend here.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, in addition to me having

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a problem with him singing the Miley Cyrus song, I

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also remember Mark Hemingway's greatest piece, America has a tattoo problem.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Or we've got to do something about America's tattoo problem.

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And I frequently want to become a tattoo consultant who

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just helps people not get tattoos.

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Speaker 1: Basically, let's dive in on that. I walk around here

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and you know, in the summer, and people have a

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lot of tattoos as some of them look cool and

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I'm impressed, and some of them I like, you are nice,

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you know, And many times, or more often than ever,

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it doesn't seem like people are putting a lot of

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thought into wear on their body. They're placing them. They're

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just like throwing them on all over. They're not very

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well done, and I find it really Listen, I'm an

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old guy, but I find it pretty un I find

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it unattractive in general, the way people place their tattoos.

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Am I wrong about this? Am I imagining this?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. My niece and godchildhood I love very

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much gotten a tattoo when her grandpa died, her dad's dad,

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and I was like, are you gonna have to do

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that now? When everybody dies? Like it didn't seem that

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she had gamed out how it's going to work over

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the long haul. But on the other hand, she's in

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Colorado and like everybody there has so many tattoos. It's

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like no big deal.

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Speaker 1: But I see a young person without a tattoo, I'm impressed,

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Like I'm impressed. They're they're like bucking the trend, it

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seems to me. And another thing is I see a

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lot of people now up their next I sound like

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such an old man, but like invading their facial area,

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Like to me, you're just a gang banger. Now. I

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don't even understand what people are doing anyway.

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Speaker 2: I once we had this guy that was I was

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living with my girlfriend and there was a guy that

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we were letting stay there, or he was a friend

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of another one of our roommates or something, and he

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wasn't paying rent, and he offered to pay in tattoos

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because he had a tattoo machine, and my friend took

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him up on it. I was like, we don't need

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any money, Like I'm not getting a free tattoo from

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a guy we're letting crash here at our apartment in Denver.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I know I have friends with tattoos and

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relatives of tattoos and all that. I can't even if

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I wanted one. I don't think I could land on

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an image that I'd wanted my body forever. I couldn't

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really decide what to do in that way. You know.

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Speaker 2: I worked with this lady at a real estate office,

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and she said that anything that like you're tempted to do,

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you should just wait till you're fifty. So she had

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never done any drugs and she's like, I'm not really

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going to do it, but if I'm going to do it,

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I'll wait till i'm fifty. And same thing with a tattoo,

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And that's one way to approach it too.

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Speaker 1: And that's another thing.

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Speaker 2: Don't do cocaine until you're seventy.

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Speaker 1: Then well you've heard have you heard nor McDonald's thing

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on that where you're like, when you're young, You're like,

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I'll wait to eighty and I'll do heroin, Like you're

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going to be less scared of things, when in truth,

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you're just way more scared of things. And he talks

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about is how is his grandmother had like this massive

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black and blue and he's like, what happened grandma? She's

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like the wind, you know, So let's talk about that

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for a moment. Have these people thought through what these

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tattoos are going to look like when you're seventy, because

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it is not going to be as you know, pretty,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how much hate mail we're

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going to get here? I know because Mark always gets

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hate mail for his tattoo piece, mostly from his own

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family or my family but we're going to get email

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from all of our listeners who are like, no, I

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have a beautiful tattoo. It's the best ever.

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Speaker 1: Some of them, honestly, some of them I'm impressed, or

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some of them, I'm like, this looks nice. I get it.

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But that is rare these days for me. Do what

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you want though. It's America. You want to look like,

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you want to look that way. Do what you gotta do.

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All right. That was one story I wanted to hit.

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Another story I wanted to hit today was the Donald J.

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Trump ballroom freak out. On this weekend, or maybe it

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was Monday. We're taping this Tuesday at you know, late

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there were pictures started to circulate of the East wing

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having some renovations, big renovations, like they're tearing down walls,

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and the entire left freaks out. Now, before we get

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into the specifics of this, I just want to say,

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it is insufferably boring to deal with people who are

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freaked out every day about everything. All the time. I'm

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in waves of anger and hysteria, which I doubt is

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even real about everything that's going on. Every president does

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some renovations of the White House, you know, I look

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it up. I mean, like virtually every single one. And

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it's all performative. And this came a day after the

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No Kings protest, which we'll talk about in a moment.

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So here's the deal, Donald Trump, apparently, and you will

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know more about this than me. I'm sure the White

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House doesn't often have enough room for the sorts of

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events it puts on, so they have tents on the

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lawn and stuff like that. So Donald Trump's building this

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ballroom which is going to house six hundred and fifty

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or have room for six hundred and fifty people. It

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cost around two hundred million. And I loved how all

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these Democrats were like, we have a big you know,

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look at the debt, and this is what Donald Trump's doing. Well,

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it's all private money and it'll be done pretty soon,

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you know. I'm sure it'll get done in a real

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patively quick period of time. And it seems to me

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not to be a big deal at all. What say you,

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Molly Hemingway.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, one of my former students, who's

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the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller or was she?

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I think she was a student Hellsdale student at the

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very least Reagan. Reese was saying that when she walked

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into the White House today, there was a construction worker

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who was bringing in like slabs of concrete or material

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or whatever, and he was telling the security that President

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Trump had asked to see these, and they had to clarify, like, oh,

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he's really taking that hands on of an approach. Of

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course he is. He is a builder, so he's really

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interested in that kind of thing. The White House is

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it actually needs to be massively overhauled. And I hope

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that whoever is president next will work to overhaul the

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West wing too. So this East wing is so small

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you can't really hold functions like you need to. If

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you've been at parties there, it's not that big, you know,

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and it's hard to get everybody in. And it's not

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that I mean, it's beautiful, but not it's not like

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European places, And so I could see it being improved upon.

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The West wing is so cramped, and I think that's

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what also needs to be improved upon. So hopefully someone

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else will do it. But Mark Hemingway had said that

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I saw him tweet that it wasn't so much that

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anyone really objected to constructing a White House ballroom. It's

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that people are agitated that they have to deal with

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a permanent reminder that Trump was ever president. And then

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after he tweets this, one of those people at the

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Bulwark said that next time a Democrat is elected president,

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they have to tear they have to raise the Trump

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ballroom and restore the White House to pre Trump's status.

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And he said, you have to tear down the physical

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manifestations of authoritarianism. Yes, an improved ballroom is definitely a

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manifestation of authoritarianism. But it was just like, it's hard

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to know how to deal with people who are so

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deranged that they can't just accept, They can't just objectively

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analyze should this White House always remain in the same

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state or can't be improved upon? Can it be improved

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upon by any president? Or does it have to be

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one that I voted for? You know, it's just weird.

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Speaker 1: What is in a manifestation of Trump's authoritarianism? You know,

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they they've lost all credibility because they freak out and

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melt down about everything. So even when there's a real

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thing to melt down about, no one's even really listening anymore.

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I don't think they are.

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Speaker 2: But I do. I want to say, since I just

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mentioned the Bulwark, I never read it. I've never found

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it to have you know, anything that draws me in.

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But I did read a piece yesterday and it was

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unintentionally high hilarious. It was an overly long, incredibly detailed

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story about a guy who had that day left the

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Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: I love that story.

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Speaker 2: Did you read it, Yes, it was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is not that he left the party

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and these I love these people. I've never been like

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a registered Republican in my life. I can't imagine being

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like today. I renounced the party. But the funny thing

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about it was he left for a bunch of reasons

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that Reaganites wanted to happen. Like he left because the

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Supreme Court was upholding you know, the law.

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Speaker 2: No, specifically, he said he left because the Supreme Court

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overturned Roe, which is something that multiple legs of the

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Reagan stool, as you just pointed out, had long fought

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for for fifty years. You had pro lifers who hated

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Roe because of how it made it impossible to protect

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any unborn life. We also had just constitutional conservatives who

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may or may not have been pro life who recognized

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it as a really bad decision that was polluting the

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entire Supreme Court jurisprudence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it brought his amber to uphold it.

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Speaker 2: You had to like do insane stuff.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, sorry, no, no, you're fused together the social

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conservative wing and the sort of legal federalist society wing.

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I mean this is this was a project, an ongoing

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project for many, many years. I think a worthy one,

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of course, So the idea that you're leaving because this

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project has finally been realized. Also, by the way, years

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after I didn't even know what this guy is. I

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don't know what a lot of people are.

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Speaker 2: But wait, that's what I want to get to. But

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first I just want to say he said specifically because

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he believed a conspiracy theory that's not true, that overturning

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Rob Wade removed like fertility treatments or something, I mean,

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which is just not true. And I guess if you

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read left wing publications like that, you don't know what

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the truth is. But it's really embarrassing that that made

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it to publication. And then he also said he believed

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in the very fine people both sides hoaxed that had

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been debunked years ago, so he's not getting very good information.

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But the kicker is you get this really long story

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about how he's left because the conservative movement finally achieved

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things that they'd always said they'd wanted to achieve, and

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they published it like it's a big thing. And it's

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a guy I don't even remember his name, but he

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was a low level fundraiser at a digital fundraising firm

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I'd never heard of. So we went from first Trump

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administration where you'd have like Governor Chris Christie, you know,

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denouncing Trump or you know, big names or whoever. His predecessor, Christine.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Anonymous. It was a similar sort of guy, right, Anonymous,

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remember that.

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Speaker 2: Book Anonymous by comparison, Actually it's huge. It was at

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least a Trump appoint or you know, had been hired

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in the Trump administration. This guy is. It was embarrassing

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how nobody he was and how they were trying to

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push it out. But I thought it was kind of

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a good sign that this is what they're resorting to.

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You've got a ton of people leaving the Democrat Party,

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according to studies, or not wanting to identify with them.

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They're so extreme that they're losing a lot of their centrists,

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even if they're not becoming Republican, they're just not wanting

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to associate with Democrats. And then in exchange you get

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you lose a no name direct mail writer or whatever.

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I don't even know what he did, but like, who cares?

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Is so funny.

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Speaker 1: The self aggrandizing, like denouncement of an entire party is

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so dumb. Like write a column about what you don't

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like or do like or whatever, make an argument. No

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one gives a crap who what your card says or

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what party you're in. I don't think they do. And

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it's just I mean, maybe the Bulwark readers do. I

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don't really read that publication. I have to be honest.

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What did I want to? Oh? Yeah, so let's just

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go back to the ballroom unless you have something else

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to say. Ony person, his name, his name, we don't

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even know and can't remember. But you said. Well, first

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of all, let me read some tweets that made me

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laugh out loud, and one was from Hillary Clinton, who

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just is a gift if the keeps giving. It's not

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his house, it's your house, and he's destroying it. That's

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what Hillary Clinton said, Now, some of us who are older,

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remember that Hillary Clinton, the first couple of the nineties,

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rented out the Lincoln bedroom like they were an old

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West tavern owners, right like to anyone who came by

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for money. And then I don't know if you remember this,

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they stole the furniture and the tableware and the dishes.

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They took it the people's dishes and furniture. I don't

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know if you remember this. It was like twenty k

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worth and they had to send it back with an apology.

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I mean, they were stealing stuff from the people's house.

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I only bring this up because this idea that they

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hold this place sacred, you know, and that the people's

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house and all this. I mean, who treated the White

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House worse than the Clinton's I mean what, I don't

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even want to get into what happened in there, the debauchery.

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So but I also like Maria Schreier saying that this

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breaks my heart and it infuriates me. Hundreds of millions

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of dollars to build a new ballroom. Good God, Now

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this is President John F. Kennedy's niece, right, if Kamala

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had won the presidency and built a new ballroom, these

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people would be celebrating it as the next Camelot, you know,

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as you know, we'd be hearing about the designers.

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Speaker 2: And if it were paid for privately, I don't think

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you would hear criticism from people who are conservative unless

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the design was bad, you know what I mean, Like

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it's just weird.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Obama Library design? I did look

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something that I love North Korea.

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Speaker 2: Love how truthful it is in terms of it being ugly. Also,

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did you see that there's a whole wall of text

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no carved into the outside and someone did someone put

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it next to a picture where it says the left

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can't mean and it's just a wall of script because

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the right will do really stupid, funny memes that immediately

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get the point across using imagery, and the left will

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just do these overly long in this house, we believe,

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you know kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: It was his? Do I have this right? I could?

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This might be wrong, but didn't he give the Queen

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of England as a gift like his best speeches on

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an iPod or something? I mean, he's so anyway. Last

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thing I want to say about this is you said

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that the White House is not like European halls which

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are big.

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Speaker 2: Or which is good. I don't mean that in a

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bad way, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know, well, I'm just saying if the if the

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point here was from the left that hey, you know,

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we're Americans and we have Republican values, you know, and

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and we you know, and and there's modesty, so we

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should just have exactly that would be different. I'm with them.

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I think we treat d C to I wish we

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didn't have big parties there. I don't want any of that.

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But they love d C. They love the parties, they

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love that stuff, and they just hate Donald Trump's done it.

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So I think Mark Scott that right.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering, do you know if they will still

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do Christmas decorations this year?

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Speaker 3: Or no?

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Speaker 1: Why do you ask me that? And how would I know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just wondering if that this will

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disrupt the Christmas decoration. Oh also reminds me of one

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of my favorite things from Milania. It's such a sad

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thing that she had a friend who betrayed her and

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oh yeah, like voice conversations that they'd had, which meant

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she was recording her which was awful. But she had

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said something about how much she hated doing the Christmas decorations,

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how it was, and how she or she'd like maybe

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she hated the criticism that she got for them or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. I don't remember all the specifics,

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but I wrote about it because it did actually upset me,

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because it felt to me like she was just voicing

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frustration and a lot of work that she had to

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do wasn't anything, you know, very ugly anyway, And and

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and it had nothing to do with politics and the

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idea that all these stay every you know, everyone's running

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with these tapes thin it was import formed. There was

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only real journalistic reason to do it. But look who

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we're talking about, right all right? East? Okay, no Kings

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just quickly. I mean, what made me laugh about that?

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First of all, I don't think protests mean very much. Honestly,

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I've always thought this. I also don't think that protests

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are very American in a way. I just I don't

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think that's how Again, Republican governance is about getting into

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a street just because I can have millions of people

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in a mob saying something it doesn't shouldn't really matter.

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But anyway, what makes me laugh about it is that

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they were protesting the thing the norms that they created.

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For the most part, they are the ones who made

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President's king. Obama is the one who made a president king.

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Joe Biden's the one who went on Twitter and tried

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to add an amendment to the Constitution through tweet, not

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Donald Trump. I don't like everything Donald Trump does. I

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think that he uses the executive branch more aggressively than

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i'd like, and some things I think are wrong, but

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I think that he's working within the framework that was

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created by Barack Obama. Now, if they want to change that,

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they should worry about that when they're in power, just

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like Republicans who don't like it should worry about it

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when Trump's in power. I don't know. Sounds a little

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bit idealistic, but that's the only way to fix the

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no King's problem, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: I just want to talk about the no Kings protests

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in general, so that they did want one of these

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in June, and I think it was designed to be

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kind of related to the efforts to stop ice enforcement

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in LA. They were doing big riots. Oh yeah, so

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LA was doing riots, which I just like to remind

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people those riots inorganically stopped. Maybe they inorganically started, but

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they stopped in a way that we're not accustomed to

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seeing with riot movements like BLM. The moment DJ said

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they were going to start investigating the funding of those riots,

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it just like went away. It was weird, but they

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had launched the first No Kings protests around those riots,

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and I thought, Okay, well here we go. We're gonna

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have another summer of love and violence and hatred and

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George Floyd two point zero. And then it just didn't happen.

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They had a big turnout of older white people. In

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most cases, like you looked at this past weekends No

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King's protest and it could be Atlanta or Philadelphia, and

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it wasn't that there were zero black people or people

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of color, but it was very few, very very few.

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And then the crowds itself seemed to be just older.

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And that matched with my experience. I was out on

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Saturday walking down King Street in Alexandria. Virginia has a

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town Alexandria that's older than the country, and the streets

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are named like King, Duke, Prince, Yeah, very royal names.

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And there was an elderly man walking past us with

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a sign that said no Kings and my kid wanted

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to pretend that they thought that this guy was protesting

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the street we were on, and I said, let's not.

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You know, we don't need to interact here.

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Speaker 1: These people are a little crazy. Yeah, well do you remember?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

474
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Speaker 1: Sorry, no, No. I was just going to say, I

475
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just don't think there's any kind of central cause really

476
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,759
here other than Donald Trump, which is just doesn't work anymore.

477
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,640
That's why there's no there's no woman's rights, abortion here,

478
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,079
you know, stuff here, There's no it's it's just a

479
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,799
bunch of people were angry that Donald Trump won the election.

480
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Speaker 2: Okay, So first off, I just want to say the

481
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idea that this guy was protesting King Street was reminding

482
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:49,240
me of the jerk you know, when the guy is

483
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,480
trying to shoot him and he keeps hitting all the

484
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:54,720
oil cans, and Steve Martin's character is like he must

485
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:57,680
hate these cans, and so I just kept thinking, like,

486
00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:02,680
they must really hate King Street. But to your point, yeah,

487
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,359
I had no idea what was organizing them. Also, we

488
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,680
have gone through, gosh, it's about almost ten years of

489
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,599
the left hating the American founding, hating it, trying to

490
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,759
destroy it, supporting kneeling when the national anthem is played,

491
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:26,160
burning down statues, removing statues, teaching all of our children

492
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,039
that America is an evil country that should not be loved,

493
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that patriotism is bad. And then all of these people

494
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000
get out there and they're like wearing George Washington stuff

495
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:39,680
and claiming to believe in the Constitution. And I'm like, you, guys,

496
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,559
I don't believe you. Like I wish you were. I

497
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,640
wish you were that way, but I really genuinely don't

498
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,799
believe it. And also I don't think they realize how

499
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,920
much they messed up by being so anti patriotic. Unpatriotic,

500
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but anti patriotic too.

501
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Speaker 1: I mean a person who picks up the New York Times,

502
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which a lot of liberals do, older liberals, probably around Alexandria,

503
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,839
for instance, and read the sixteen nineteen Project which tells

504
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,119
them that the American Founding was just a war to

505
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,519
preserve slavery, which is completely astore, not even a historical

506
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,200
it just mythology. And now I'm supposed to pretend they

507
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,000
care about George Washington, Madison and all these people that

508
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,880
I don't buy it for a second. The even now

509
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,680
in the New York Times, I'm just using them. They're

510
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400
my straw man. Right now. There's a piece the other

511
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,240
week about how we need to get rid of the Senate,

512
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,759
we need to get rid of the electoral college, we

513
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:35,759
need to get rid of what else was it, you know,

514
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,680
all this stuff. Essentially, they want to create a centralized

515
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,680
democracy because they think they're going to win that way

516
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,519
and been doing it forever. So I don't believe them

517
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,359
at all. And you're right about the statues if you're listen.

518
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,880
We've said this before and people get mad. But I

519
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,799
can tell who the Democrats are where I live and

520
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,559
who the Republicans are by who flies an American flag.

521
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680
I'm sorry, That's just how it is. And until that changes,

522
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,480
and we both you know, both sides, and that doesn't

523
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,279
mean that the people are Republicans in my view at

524
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,599
least are doing everything right, or that they're always adhering

525
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,240
to the Constitution. But let's be honest about who cares

526
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,039
about that. So they just hate that Donald Trump got elected.

527
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:20,200
That's it. Speaking of hating America, Let's talk about Zoar Mamdani,

528
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:26,000
the candidate for mayor of New York. I would like

529
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,519
to preface all this by saying that cities elect ridiculous

530
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:36,960
people for mayor all the time. Right, I don't want

531
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,640
to make a bigger deal out of this than it is.

532
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,079
We have to remember he's running against he ran against

533
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,880
a corrupt mayor. He's running against a corrupt and failed

534
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,160
governor who is long his due date is over right,

535
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,799
And he's running against Curtis lia who I know. I

536
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,319
grew up with him around. I think he's kind of

537
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,440
just a publicity hound. I don't I think he's a

538
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,079
serious person. I don't think he seriously thinks about anything.

539
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,920
I also think he's a fraud. The Guardian Angels I

540
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,359
was so into them when I was young, but it

541
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,279
turned out a lot of their stories were made up

542
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:13,240
in fake and you know whatever. So he's not exactly

543
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,960
running against any kind of formidable opposition. And it's New

544
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,359
York City, so how many Republicans are actually going to run?

545
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:23,440
But my problem is that a ton of elite Democrats

546
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,839
and basically the entire progressive wing of the party has

547
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,640
backed this guy and normalized what he says and made

548
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,039
him basically the I don't know the model for how

549
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640
people are supposed to be running in the country, right.

550
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,119
I bring him up because he met with this imom

551
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,839
in Brooklyn who said terrible the usual terrible stuff. I mean,

552
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,440
I have to say. People are saying he was an

553
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,359
unindicted co conspirator in the ninety three World Trade Center bombing.

554
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720
I don't think that's true. I don't think he was.

555
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:01,200
The people who went to his mosque were involved. He

556
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:05,440
defended those people after he said terrible things. But I

557
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,519
don't think he was an unindicted co consert. But it

558
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,200
doesn't really matter anyway. I don't know where I'm going

559
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,880
with this other than to say that I think he's

560
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720
going to win. Even if Slee was stepped out, I

561
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,319
think he's going to win, and I think that boats

562
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,319
poorly for the future of the left.

563
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it. I was actually talking

564
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,759
on Fox about how there's a push for Curtis Sliwa

565
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,039
to drop out since he has no chance of winning,

566
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:35,720
and he's becoming an impediment to Cuomo having a chance

567
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:40,039
at winning is quite an impediment, actually, But I think

568
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:43,640
even if he removed himself from the race, I think

569
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,079
his name is still going to be on the ballot,

570
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:46,559
and I don't think it would really make much of

571
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,799
a difference. I agree with you that mom Donnie is

572
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:54,079
going to win, but I also resent being told that

573
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Governor Cuomo is in any way an acceptable alternative to

574
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:02,680
mom Donnie. I mean, the guy speaking of no kings

575
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,039
and authoritarianism and tyranny. The dude was very bad as

576
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:12,279
governor during COVID. He had really bad restrictions. He had

577
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:15,960
bad policies, you know, that led to people dying. I

578
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,440
think his administration was even under investigation for what they

579
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,200
did with the nursing homes during COVID. He told pro

580
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,359
lifers to leave the state. He's a bigot. He is

581
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,920
responsible for a lot of Republicans leaving New York and

582
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:36,319
the idea that this is what the options are. It's

583
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:37,960
just a very bad thing. And by the way, I

584
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,720
would probably vote for him if I were a New

585
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:46,000
York City resident, you know, given the alternative. You're correct

586
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:49,279
that people shouldn't overread a mom Donnie when given how

587
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:52,359
bad the opposition is. But I also think that people,

588
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,119
particularly those on the right, should be at least a

589
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,599
little concerned about why mom Donnie is popular in New York.

590
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,000
Part of it is he just seems to like the

591
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,440
city more than the people he's running against, and I

592
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,319
think that works in a mayoral election. But also we

593
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:15,319
have some concerns growing with the difficulty that younger people

594
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,720
have buying houses, buying things. And I always think of

595
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:23,960
that thing Greg Connolly says, which is, you're not going

596
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
to have a conservative movement if young people can't buy houses.

597
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,519
And so you have to be thinking constantly about how

598
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,440
to make sure that life is a certain way of

599
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,240
life is worth conserving for a conservative movement to work,

600
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:42,759
and the right just should be mindful of that and

601
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:48,319
how things have become more difficult for young people in

602
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:49,000
some cases.

603
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,319
Speaker 1: I agree with you on Cuomo. I mean, I think

604
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he's one of the worst people in your politics in

605
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,519
a long time, and that is saying something I don't

606
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,240
buy the way. And I agree with you that housing

607
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:07,039
is important, Affordability is important. It's not going to happen

608
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,440
in Manhattan. You know, It's never been really affordable there.

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,640
There's no place to build. I'm sorry, that's just physics.

610
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400
If you want to build, you need to move somewhere else.

611
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880
You can't live in Washington, you can't live in New York.

612
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,039
It's not just here. It's across Europe, you know, I mean,

613
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,200
major cities are super expensive. You have to build elsewhere.

614
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Most of the building problem, I think, at least for

615
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,559
world i've read, is a state problem. It's a municipality problem.

616
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:33,920
It's a city problem. People don't let you build more.

617
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,039
That's one thing. But I don't buy for a second

618
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,960
that mom Donnie is speaking in some language. Every mayoral

619
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,000
candidate's spoken about rents being too high. There was literally

620
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,799
a candidate who just said the rents are too damn high.

621
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,960
It's not a new topic. I don't buy for a

622
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,359
second that he's this charismatic guy. I believe that many

623
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,720
New Yorkers, some immigrants, and many of the socialists, you know,

624
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,880
the the well pretty well off people who are in

625
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,320
rich areas in Brooklyn and elsewhere, who come often from

626
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,199
other places around the country and congregate in New York.

627
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,440
They like him because he's a socialist. They want some

628
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,079
free stuff, they want a free bus, you know. They

629
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,000
like him, I'm sorry, because he is a Muslim and

630
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,280
they think it's cool to vote for one. This is

631
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440
why he's popular. And he's young, right, There's always an

632
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,079
energy in youth that you're not going to get for

633
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,360
Cuomo Como was old entireties. Yesterday.

634
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: I did see that recent polls showed that if only

635
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,239
men were voting, the non Mum Donnie candidates were like

636
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,880
two to one versus Mom Donnie, and that native born

637
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:47,480
voters like overwhelmingly rejected Mom Donnie, but that non native

638
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,840
born voters overwhelmingly supported him.

639
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this has always been the problem with the

640
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,719
New York and the mayor's race. You know, you have

641
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Staten Island, and you had certain parts of Brooklyn which

642
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,039
were still working class in normal and there are fewer

643
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:03,440
and fewer of those places left. People have been priced out,

644
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
they moved to Long Island, they moved to other places

645
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,519
and which are more more conservative. So that's always been

646
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:13,960
the case. But I just don't buy this idea. Like

647
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,840
everyone in the media, you know, in the in the

648
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,719
legacy media talks about him like this, you know, candidate

649
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,400
that needs to be aped by everyone else. He so

650
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,679
successfully knows how to speak to people, But no one

651
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:29,639
talks about John Fetterman. Why not ape him? I mean,

652
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:31,880
he is a person who is popular in a state

653
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,280
that Donald Trump want. He's a Democrat, right, No, it's

654
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,400
got to be the guy in the New York City

655
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:39,880
who appeals to people who live in Park Slope. I mean,

656
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,000
it's just insanity, I think for them. Though, we cannot

657
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:47,719
disregard the fact that that kind of socialistic rhetoric, the

658
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,360
frankly the promas rhetoric, and the other stuff that he

659
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,039
does is very popular with a certain segment, and it's

660
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,840
a growing segment, and there's no way around that, and

661
00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:59,519
I think that bodes poorly for America just in general.

662
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,639
I don't want to again overstate his importance, but he's

663
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,199
not alone, right, You have Bernie, you have AOC, you

664
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,719
have others. I mean, AOC could be a senator. It's

665
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,800
not out of the realm of possibility that you would

666
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,599
become a senator.

667
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: So I do think that smart people should work to

668
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,639
thwart the worst impulses of mom Donnie. He has said

669
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,440
some really radical and awful things on the campaign trail.

670
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,519
I think there's a lot of concern that he would

671
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,719
not protect the civil rights of Jewish New Yorkers. There

672
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,039
are concerns that he would improperly use government resources to

673
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,800
compete against private business owners like bodega owners, as he

674
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,440
wants to set up a socialized healthcare thing. The safety

675
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480
of the citizens by opening up buses so that, you know,

676
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,440
even worse problems happen there in terms of people on

677
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:03,960
public transit. But one thing I learned from the left

678
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,760
they have spent this first year of the Trump administration.

679
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,039
I think it was the New York Times the Washington

680
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:13,880
Post said the only effective thing, that's the only thing

681
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,719
that's effective for the left right now is the law

682
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,800
fair against Trump. So the moment he says, Okay, I'm

683
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,960
president in a constitutional republic, people who work for me

684
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,320
can be fired by me. I'm firing this person, and

685
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,679
all of a sudden, they you know, they circuit shop

686
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,039
an effort to keep that from happening, and it works,

687
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:39,480
and they stall, delay, thwart everything he's doing. Well, if

688
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,360
you can do that for things that are totally constitutional,

689
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,880
how much more should smart people be doing it to

690
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,280
protect small business owners like bodega owners in New York

691
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,920
or you know, grandmothers who are on the bus, Like,

692
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,039
shouldn't there be efforts to protect them?

693
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,199
Speaker 1: Also, how do you mean you mean employing law here

694
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,800
against mom done to stop.

695
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like it's hard to fight people like that. If

696
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,559
you can do it, like the Democrat Party has done,

697
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,039
in unison against Trump. Why can't people who care about

698
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,840
the free market or care about rule of law also

699
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,960
work to thwart They should just be on guard. They

700
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440
should be on mom donning and watch like, Okay, you

701
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,039
want to have this inappropriate socialist thing to compete against

702
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,079
small business owners. We're going to We're going to see

703
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:34,639
what we can do to stop you legally.

704
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: I have so many things to say. I guess one

705
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,440
part of me is like, Okay, this is what you

706
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,599
guys wanted have it. Let's see how it works out

707
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,320
for you. Let's see how your free busses work out.

708
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,559
Let's see how your socialized supermarket supermarkets work out while

709
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,559
you rich people live on the east side or west

710
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,639
side whatever. Another part of me is like, I'm you know,

711
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,800
a New York native and twenty years a generation after

712
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,280
twenty five years, almost a generation after nine to eleven, Mom,

713
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Donnie's going to be mayor of New York, a person

714
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,199
who makes excuses for terrorists and all of this stuff.

715
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,400
And then you know, online people say you're Islamophobic, which

716
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,800
is like a stupid, cowardly word that doesn't mean anything.

717
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,039
I am. I am phobic of bad ideas of a

718
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:21,760
certain kind of thinking. I should be able to criticize them,

719
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,440
just as I could criticize Christian ideas or Jewish ideas

720
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,159
if I felt like it. But anyway, I think that

721
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,639
what kind of lawfare can you use to stop him?

722
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:38,599
I mean, he won the Democratic primary fairly, you know,

723
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,559
the Republicans stop him.

724
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,159
Speaker 2: Stop him from running. I totally think people should have

725
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,159
every right to vote for him and all that I'm saying.

726
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,679
If he proposes doing something that's a violation of people

727
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,800
civil rights.

728
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Sue and sue and sue and sue. Yeah, I get that.

729
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,679
I mean, let's be honest, it's very difficult for a

730
00:39:56,679 --> 00:40:00,880
person who believes in any kind of system to deal

731
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,159
with democratic socialists because democratic parts just there until they

732
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,159
have power, then they'll do whatever they want to do.

733
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,719
They're consequentialists. They don't care about the laws, all about

734
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,480
the endgame, right, So I agree. I mean, I don't know,

735
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:18,840
I don't know how you can stop him.

736
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,639
Speaker 3: Is a legal immigration actually breaking emergency care? Who watched

737
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738
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,519
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739
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and how it affects your wallet. Illegal immigrants are going

740
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to the er for non emergencies like cold and flu

741
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,320
because they have to get treated. What was meant for

742
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,239
true emergencies has turned into a system overwhelmed. Whether it's

743
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,400
happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting

744
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you financially.

745
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Speaker 1: Be informed.

746
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,639
Speaker 3: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

747
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

748
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of breaking the law, I think that my segues

749
00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:00,760
are great today because speaking of Britain laws, La Moodless,

750
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:09,119
let's talk about John Brennan. Apparently there's a report that

751
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:13,320
that that the You'll correct me if I'm wrong, but

752
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:19,280
Congress is asking the DOJ to not investigate but indict him.

753
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:25,599
Speaker 2: Correct yeah too, Yeah, they are for a line to them,

754
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:33,199
which he apparently did. I have seen so many referrals

755
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:39,039
from Congress for things that haven't happened. I mean, I

756
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:43,000
remember Lindsey Graham, of all people, sent over a criminal

757
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:49,920
referral about Christopher Steele line to Congress, and nothing ever

758
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,480
happened with that. I mean, obviously it wouldn't have happened

759
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:55,559
because he sent it to a DJ that was completely

760
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,039
corrupted by that time.

761
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,519
Speaker 1: Well, just because someone deserves to be in jail doesn't

762
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,039
mean that you have the evidence, you know, in a

763
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,760
legal sense, to put him there. I just want to

764
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,159
say that it seems when I read about this story.

765
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:14,039
This is from twenty seventeen, Brennan led that the CIA

766
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,519
did not use any information from the Steel report, but

767
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:18,880
it exists in an annex right if I have the

768
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,679
wording right, And isn't it going to be incredibly difficult

769
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,719
to prove that the wording he used, which is a

770
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,159
little merely mouthed, like, is it going to be incredibly

771
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,320
hard to get a jury to convict someone on unlying

772
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:38,480
to Congress even if you went moved forward with this

773
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:42,519
when it's like an appendix that it's in that it's

774
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,519
not that he can just say it wasn't really part

775
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,760
of how we conducted business, that it was just sort

776
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,639
of supporting evidence or whatever. I don't know what the

777
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:53,119
defense will be. It seems to me like it's a

778
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:56,760
pretty flimsy case, not because I don't think it's ripe,

779
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,199
because there's really no way to go after someone so powerful.

780
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know. First off, one of the problems

781
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,920
is that these things take place in Washington, DC, or

782
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,559
the Eastern District of Virginia, which are overwhelmingly left wing

783
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,599
jury pools. So even if you can get an indictment,

784
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:17,719
which can be hard, getting a conviction is even harder.

785
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,239
But it is also true that that Hipsie report that

786
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,400
came out in July is absolutely explosive. When we were

787
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
covering the Russia colusion hoax, we thought of it mostly

788
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,119
as an FBI thing. The Hipsy report shows that it

789
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,679
was absolutely a CIA thing, and it shows how he

790
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:48,719
overruled multiple permanent staff of the CIA to get this

791
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,480
included and for it to be used to paint a

792
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:58,559
false picture of the Russia collusion hoax. And that was

793
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,880
him doing it much more. I mean, Komi had his

794
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,199
own problems and obviously was playing around with the dossier

795
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,719
to begin with, but the weaponization of the dossier was

796
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,079
really done by Brennan, and it was done through this

797
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,320
by putting it in as an annex and also citing

798
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:18,679
they would make these outlandish claims and they would say

799
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,159
for more on this, read the annex or you know.

800
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,679
And he he played around with that dossier in really

801
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,800
bad form. But I will also say he did worse

802
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:37,960
things in that intelligence report then just use the dossier.

803
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,760
He also brought in all sorts of other unvetted evidence

804
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,800
that he was personally controlling that didn't go through the

805
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,360
normal procedures that you would for when evidence comes in

806
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,280
about something where you put a lot of eyes on

807
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,599
it and sort of make sure you have a rigorous

808
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,920
review of what it could mean and the quality of

809
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,880
the information. He kept it strictly held. He briefed personally

810
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,039
members of the Gang of Eight, giving each member of

811
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,480
the Gang of Eight a different briefing based on whether

812
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:17,320
they were Democrat or Republican. He the only evidence of

813
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,719
there was so much evidence, there was overwhelming evidence from

814
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:26,840
a multiplicity of sources saying that Russia had no preference

815
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,760
in the election. But he said he had like personal

816
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,400
knowledge of this one guy and it was all based

817
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,599
on this phrase where he said Putin was counting on

818
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,960
Trump to win, but five analysts looked at it, looked

819
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,119
at it, and had five different responses to it. Namely,

820
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,119
this was being uttered right before the Republican convention that

821
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,320
was being contested by Ted Cruz and others, and Putin

822
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,320
was counting on Trump to win, not chounting on it

823
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840
like I'm controlling it or I'm you know, just he

824
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,639
thought Trump would win, and he was right. Trump did

825
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,519
easily win, and that was just a the Russia collusion hoax.

826
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,159
Speaker 1: Sorry, just as a Ryan. In the twenty sixteen email, Brennan,

827
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,840
while disregarding his deputy, said the deputy said that the

828
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,719
credibility of the entire paper would be undermined by including

829
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,159
that information. Meaning it's almost as if he's like, we

830
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,239
need to get Trump, but if we put this in there,

831
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,960
it's going to make it even worse. I mean, that's

832
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,880
how I read it. I don't know or not that's

833
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,760
true or not. And his answer was, my bottom line

834
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,440
is that I believe that information warrants inclusion in the report,

835
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,039
which does show that he knew it was in there.

836
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: Right, But again, he was the one who ran that

837
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,039
intelligence document. Remember we were covering this like a couple

838
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,920
months ago. Obama was about to be briefed that Russia

839
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000
had not successfully interfered in the election. The FBI says,

840
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,760
we change our mind, We're not signing on to this.

841
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,920
There's a secret meeting with all the spy chiefs and

842
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,239
they come up with this plan that they will do

843
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,000
a new intelligence report, something that would normally take like

844
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,360
a year or maybe even two years, and instead they

845
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,920
rush it out in a matter of weeks. And you know,

846
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,440
Brendan Comene Clapper are all involved in this, like complete

847
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920
manufacturing of evidence. And then when Congress is asking about it,

848
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,960
they give these mealie mouthed answers, as you say, not

849
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,400
revealing that they had fabricated this entire thing in order

850
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,400
to do a soft coup of the maybe not so

851
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,960
soft coup of the president. And it's just hard because

852
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,519
he knows what he was doing. He knows he was obstructing.

853
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
I mean, I would refer more for like obstruction of justice.

854
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,239
They were investigating the Russia collusion hoax, and he kept

855
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,280
them from understanding what they were investigating until the Statute

856
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,559
of limitations ran out.

857
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: And you remember how this infuriates me. But you remember

858
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,400
when people ask questions or would attack him. Samantha Power

859
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,239
were going MSNBC and same, it's not a good idea

860
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,800
to get John Brennan mad, you know, or or Chuck

861
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,760
Schumer said, like the was it six ways?

862
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,079
Speaker 2: I have six ways from Sunday of getting back at

863
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,719
you if you which is and yeah.

864
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: Which is complete abuse of power and notes almost admitting

865
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,559
that there's an abuse of power there, that they can

866
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,599
do whatever they want, that they're above the law, that

867
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,840
they can destroy you if you say something. So I

868
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960
would love for one of these people to pay a

869
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:11,400
price for clapping.

870
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:19,039
Speaker 2: Allie for the Senate January seventeen, twenty seventeen, headlined top

871
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,559
level intel officers war against Donald Trump is bad for

872
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:27,000
the country. I just want credit here January seventeenth to

873
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:31,599
twenty seventeen. That's before Trump was elected, and I reread

874
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,679
what I had there, and I totally figured it out.

875
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,159
You might remember I figured it out because Jack Tapper

876
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,400
accidentally revealed it all to me while I was sitting there.

877
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,360
But nevertheless, I'm still proud of how early I figured

878
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,639
out a lot of this stuff.

879
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: With There's no accidents, there's just opportunities. You were in

880
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,519
the right place at the right time, and you followed

881
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:55,400
the clues. I've written many columns over the years begging

882
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
or wanting or wish casting John Brennan to be an

883
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,519
orange suit in prison in somewhere. I don't know that

884
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:05,480
it'll ever happen, but that's where he belongs, all right.

885
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,599
On that note, you want to talk a little bit

886
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:16,719
about culture, Yes, yes, let's start by talking about the

887
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,639
amazing heist at the Louver. Oh.

888
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: That reminds me. I had multiple people correcting my pronunciation

889
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:35,920
of on on jegen oneah. Some people just made fun

890
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,599
of me without telling me how to say it properly,

891
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:41,320
but other people actually helped me.

892
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,599
Speaker 1: You know, we're the only people in the world who

893
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,840
always have to pronounce things the way that the foreigners

894
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,199
pronounce it. You know what I mean, I should. I

895
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,679
think it's like when people say vankach or whatever. It's

896
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,280
just annoying to me. But anyway, so I didn't think

897
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,679
that heist likes like this could happen anymore. It's very

898
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,920
like nineteen sixties to me or something. And anyway, these

899
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,960
people back to truck into the loop and stole and

900
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,079
they use like a glass cutter. There's no cameras. Can

901
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:12,840
you believe that there's no cameras at this museum which

902
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,679
has priceless work of art after priceless work of art.

903
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,800
And they didn't steal any paintings or anything like. They

904
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,960
stole jewelry, tiaras, earrings, and necklaces. I think they have

905
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,920
like two thousand diamonds in their possession now or something

906
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:30,679
like that. Obviously, selling the Mona Lisa's is very difficult,

907
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:34,920
but selling diamonds is not, though I have read that

908
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,679
because of the kind of artificial diamonds they make now

909
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,719
that the market isn't the same. But anyway, they have

910
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:47,880
sapphires and other emeralds, and it's just listen. I'm not

911
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,360
happy that they stole the stuff, but I am happy

912
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,880
that I get to read a story like this these days.

913
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: I know, I was so excited reading this. It's horrible,

914
00:50:56,119 --> 00:51:01,440
and also it's just amazing backed that they pulled a

915
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,159
truck up. They had a ladder to the second story,

916
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:06,480
they climbed up. They all were wearing gear that made

917
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,199
them seem like they were museum workers. They went to work,

918
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,599
completed everything in just a few short minutes. They dropped

919
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,840
one of the crowns on the way out in the

920
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,360
gutter and it cracked. That's sad. And I was reading

921
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,800
that there had been a similar theft at the louver

922
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,920
of part of this collection, I think in around nineteen

923
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,559
sixty or something like that, where that has never been solved. Really,

924
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,920
I was reading Charles The Tense Coronation Sword or something.

925
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,039
Speaker 1: I read in The New York Times that in nineteen

926
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,679
that the other big burglaries, and this one blew my mind.

927
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,960
But in nineteen ninety four at the National Museum in Oslo, Norway,

928
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:56,079
a bunch of people went into the museum there and

929
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,960
stoleed a screen by Edward Munch and left a note

930
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,280
that said a thousand things for your poor security. That's amazing.

931
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,480
I assume they got this painting back because it's one

932
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,800
of the most famous paintings in the world. Right, But

933
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,559
this kind of stuff actually happens more than you'd think.

934
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,039
You know, once every ten years there's some big theft

935
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:23,719
like this. Anyway, interesting story, right, Oh, I just remembered. Also,

936
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,119
I wanted to mention that Ace Freely died, you know,

937
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:28,800
the guitarist of Kiss. So when I was like a kid,

938
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,079
they were huge. I was really he was seventy four,

939
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:36,079
and I was thinking, man, he was young. The height

940
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:37,840
of Kiss in the mid seventies. He was like twenty

941
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,719
years old. You know, we're twenty two years old. That's

942
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,480
just you don't think about it that way. And he

943
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,840
was an amazing It was amazing when I was a kid.

944
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,920
I love that band. Anyway.

945
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Speaker 2: I grew up in Tilarry County, California, in the middle

946
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of nowhere, and our Lutheran school didn't have kindergarten, so

947
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I went to kindergarten in the public school system. Was

948
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high school or maybe I don't even know it was

949
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high school or like just there were high school kids

950
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that were on campus dressed as Kiss, but I thought

951
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it really was Kiss because I was five, and I

952
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remember realizing, like many years later, like Kiss did not

953
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visit Terra Bella, California.

954
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Speaker 1: You don't know, I remember having like Kiss trading cards

955
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,199
in elementary school. They were just like everyone loved them.

956
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,920
I didn't even know what it was really about. Like

957
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I didn't really have their albums at the time, but

958
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I was just like one big part of the group. Okay,

959
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so I'll quickly talk about what I watched, and we

960
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can talk about what you watched. But I did watch

961
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the John Candy documentary like you. I thought he was

962
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,920
excellent and wasn't it so good? It seemed like a

963
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,079
really good man, family man. It did bother me that

964
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,400
he didn't take any care of himself even though he

965
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:57,639
was people kind of told him, and that his dad

966
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:01,400
had died young. His brother had a heart attack I

967
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:07,360
think in his thirties, so he's just ignored doctors. He smoked, obviously,

968
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,760
it's constantly smoking in the videos, and he obviously he

969
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,960
ate way too much. And it bothers me that he

970
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,639
didn't take care of himself, because I think he could

971
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:17,280
have given us a lot more.

972
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Speaker 2: Then.

973
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Speaker 1: I watched the longest documentary. It must have been six

974
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hours long or something like that, you know in episodes,

975
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:32,760
but it's a documentary of Martin Scorsese, the director. I

976
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,199
loved every second of it. I'm going to watch it again.

977
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,480
If you're into him, this is on Apple TV, you

978
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:43,639
should watch it. It spends I mean, you know, it

979
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,159
spends a lot of time about his upbringing in little Italy.

980
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,360
It spends a lot of time on his relationship with

981
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Robert de Niro and Leo DiCaprio and all his films.

982
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,599
You know, they get into mean Streets and they actually,

983
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:56,760
I don't know if you've ever seen Mean Streets. It's

984
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his first like real movie with de Niro and Harvey

985
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,320
cay Tells in it. But they actually tracked down the

986
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people who it was based on, who were like, you know,

987
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when he was growing up in Italy. They're really old

988
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,960
now and they talk to them and it's just so

989
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:13,920
well done. I think it's done by Daniel da Lewis's wife,

990
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,360
Rebecca Miller, who is the daughter of Arthur Miller, the playwright.

991
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Very well done. I would recommend it to anyone who's

992
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into that. But it is long. That's it. How about you, Kay?

993
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,119
Speaker 2: I can't remember anything. I did go to a gala

994
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,400
on Saturday night that was the craziest gala I've ever

995
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been to. It was the National Italian American Foundation's fiftieth anniversary.

996
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, that sounds great.

997
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,559
Speaker 2: It was great. It was at the Reagan Hilton.

998
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:55,639
Speaker 1: Okay.

999
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Speaker 2: It was like twenty five hundred people, a completely ungoverned,

1000
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a bull crowd unless the pope was talking or like

1001
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
a priest was up Like if the pope was pictured,

1002
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,559
they were quiet. If a priest was up there, they

1003
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were quiet. And otherwise it was just raucous and crazy.

1004
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Everyone was dressed really beautifully. They had a silent auction

1005
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that had like a perrari and a jeep because the

1006
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,320
head of the jeep company is Italian.

1007
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Speaker 1: Man, this is one thing I would want to go do.

1008
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This is the first thing you've ever mentioned that I

1009
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want to go.

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Speaker 2: Do COMPARI sponsored the pre party, so we had negron eneties.

1011
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,360
It was great, and then it was just person after

1012
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,079
person they were celebrating. Also, Georgia Maloney, you know, phoned

1013
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in from Italy and she's so pretty. She was the

1014
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first of many people to thank President Trump for restoring

1015
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Columbus Day, which I guess like had officially been changed

1016
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to Hate America Day, or through the.

1017
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Speaker 1: Form of Indigenous Indigenous People's Day, which I'm all.

1018
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Speaker 2: I like holidays, I'm all for more holidays. The idea

1019
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that you would replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day

1020
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is such a slap. And so Maloney says that she's like,

1021
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,679
we all know the reason they get rid of Columbus Days.

1022
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They don't want to give credit to the great Italian

1023
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Americans who have helped build America, you know. And everyone

1024
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was like cheering, and then more people were mentioning that,

1025
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and Maria Bartiromo was there, speaking of very pretty people.

1026
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Speaker 1: Am I allowed to ask you why you were invited

1027
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to this? I mean, obviously you're a public, you're a celebrity,

1028
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but aren't you part of Italian maybe a little bit

1029
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at the.

1030
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Speaker 2: Time, I am in no way Italian except for love

1031
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:48,239
of Italy, and I had a friend who invited me.

1032
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Speaker 1: I love the Italians. My wife is Italian. She comes

1033
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,559
from the Italian family. I grew up around Italians. I

1034
00:57:56,599 --> 00:58:03,599
love Italian stuff. Telling cars I mean from Afar. That

1035
00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:06,960
sounds like fun. Oh man, I'm curious of that. Usually,

1036
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like I went to the you know, the some kind

1037
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,559
of boring DC thing that would never want to go to.

1038
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But this sounded amazing. Yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm sure

1039
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,119
the stuff he goes to is very interesting. Was this

1040
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,239
a good episode or a bad episode? I can tell

1041
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:27,000
talking a mile minute. I'm so tired. Okay, if you'd

1042
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like to reach the show, please do so at radio

1043
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,559
at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to hear from you.

1044
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We'll be back next week. Until then, be lovers of

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freedom and anxious for the play of add Shitter.