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Speaker 1: That was Dating Tips from Porn Stars. Now back to
another podcast with Izzy Presley.
Speaker 3: All right, we are back. That was dating Tips from
Porn Stars, and we are back now with a man
that I cannot believe we got him on during hockey season.
It's like seeing Santa in like May. He is a
proprietor the main man behind Mettle Blade Records. You know him,
you love him. My good friend, Brian Slagel, how are
you doing today? Good sir?
Speaker 4: I'm good, sir. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fucking great man? Ready to talk some rock and roll.
Let's get into hockey first. And it boggles my mind
that a kid from southern California, growing up when nobody
gave a shit about the Kings became such a hockey nut.
How in the hell did that happen?
Speaker 4: Well, Uh, it's a bit of a long story. Well,
so when I was a kid in the seventies, believe
it not, a hockey in LA was a big thing.
We had the Kings and we also had the La Sharks,
and they were building rinks like everywhere where. I grew
up in Woodland Hills and there were three rinks around
me in Woodland Hills. So it's kind of a big
thing back then. But I was just I was into
all sorts of sports. It wasn't just wasn't just hockey
as a kid, And unfortunately I couldn't afford to play
hockey because single no money, I didn't play hockey. But
what I really became completely in love with it was
so the guy that was printing my fansy at the
time in nineteen eighty one, he was doing work for
the Lakers and the Kings, and I just started getting
into the Kings. I started going to games right around
there because you would get in for like five bucks
because nobody was going. So we go watch a few
live games. And once you see that sport live, it
takes a whole different dynamic than just you know, watching
it on TV. So I started going to a few games.
It was super fun. Started getting into it. So anyway,
so he had to deal with Kings and the Lakers,
and it was a barter deal where he would give
they would print stuff for both teams. It was all
owned by the same people at the time, and they
would give him season tickets for the Lakers and the Kings.
And his son, who was what I was dealing with,
said hey, you know, I know you were going to
some of these Kings games. And this was like halfway
through the season or something. He said, you know, we
have season tickets. Do you want to take these off
our hands? We don't ever go.
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah.
Speaker 4: So I bought them and just and just loved it.
And the next year I said can I just have them?
And he's like yeah, switched it over to my name
and it became season ticket holder of frick Kings and
ever since then, I just started to be a massive fan.
But also where it happened right before that was hockey
was not on television at all in the late seventies
and early eighties. But all of a sudden, one night
I got I was usually done with everything I was
doing by like eleven o'clock and just set down and
turned the TV on just to veg out for a
little bit before going to sleep. Well, this local station
just started playing the Islanders Stanley Cup games. I think
it was, Yeah, it's either eighty or eighty one, I
can't remember. So I started watching, like, oh, I forgot
how cool this sport is. And it kind of kind
of went crazy from there.
Speaker 3: When did you become such a like a nut though?
Because I mean, I know you have you have a
place just for jerseys. Yeah, you have apartments just to
go to hockey games in multiple parts of the country.
It's like I wore my Sake Cloud State Jersey and like, dude,
Saint Cloud stay. It's like, how the fuck do you
know that? I mean, when did When did the obsession start?
Speaker 4: I mean started really again in eighty two when I
first started going to the Kings games on a regular
basis and just was like, I love this sport. It's
really great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 4: It was really my therapy at that point. I was
just I was just getting into the whole scene and
doing a million different things and all music related. It
was kind of fun to just have, like, ah, a
little break to go watch some sports. I was always
been a big sports man. I'd have been with football, baseball,
the whole thing, but just going to the games live,
I just I just really started to love the sport
and it was, you know, so much fun back then,
the games like seven to six and had just fights
and all this crazy stuff. So just so slowly became
more and more into it that I met other people
around the country and we would like tape video trade,
we would tape trade vhs, videotapes of all because you
couldn't see any of these games anyway. So I just
became obsessed with And then I started going to college
games and you know everything else, and just I just
became completely head over heels in love with this board.
Speaker 3: I just can't believe that. Yeah, we all know about
the metal tape traders. I didn't realize there was hockey
tape traders.
Speaker 4: It just it kind of started off innocently where I
was in New York at a Ranger game, and back
then they used to have I forget what it was
called o'sches or something. There was a ball right next
to the garden. I was in there after a game,
just hanging out with a couple of friends of mine,
and I heard these these actually two girls talking about
the La Kings and they raisually even playing them. They're
just talking about the La Kings and the Edmonton Oilers
and I go, you know about those teams. They go yeah,
we're huge fans, and I go, oh, I'm from LA.
I have seen tickets and just became friends with them.
And they were the ones that they were obsessed with
the Kings and more importantly the Edmonton Oilers, which was
you know, the Gretzkis and the Muse and I'm sarrying
Gtks and messiers. So they said, hey, we'll we'll trade you.
We'll tape Ranger games on VHS and send them to
you and you can tape the Kings and Edmonton Olio games.
I go, oh, sure, that's a good idea. So we
started doing that. Then there was a team in a Heartford,
Connecticut and we had a back off Fates Warning, and
I uh got the one of the guys from Fates
Warning who was a big hockey fan. Guy, can you
take me Harford Whaler games and send them to me?
And he's like, yeah, sure, and it's kind of kind
of started from there. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 4: It was based on my love of tape trading, so well,
of course, do you.
Speaker 3: We're going to get into music in a little bit,
but this still just fascinates me. Do you have a U?
Do you have a Krem de la crem? Your your
top notch collectible for hockey? There's a couple have.
Speaker 4: A Marlogam you autographed jersey from when they won the
Cup in the early nineties. It's that's not.
Speaker 3: Please please don't say ninety one in Minneapolis.
Speaker 4: Uh it was, I forget, you know, I'm not even
really sure which which one it was. It might have
been the second one against the Blackhawks, so okay, it's easier, easier,
mind a little bit. I also have an autograph uh
Gretzky All Star jersey from the Rangers, which is pretty cool.
Cool and one of my favorite jerseys though of all
time is from a team that never played a game
called the Tucson scorch and they had a really cool
logo and really cool jerseys, but they never played a
single game. And I had a hunt and peck to
find those jerseys. They ended up being in some equipment
guy's basement and I bought them all from him, and
so that that's pretty cool because like hardly anybody has
anything from.
Speaker 3: Them, So that's that's fucking badass. Uh, do you have
any good Cup stories? I mean, obviously, unfortunately you've seen
it here with the Golden Knights, and you know my
just stand for the Golden Knights. But I still go
to the games because you know, in the wild play.
But do you have any good up Cup stories being
around the Cup? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well here's here's a few of them. So I've been
lucky enough to be able to hang out with all
these NHL media guys. Uh, they've kind of adopted me
as one of their own. You know. I I listen
and watch and read all these guys stuff. So it's
kind of humbling to be a part of them. And
one of the guys that was part of them was
this guy named Mike Bolt who was the keeper of
the Cup. You know field Phil feels like the main
guy on TV and everything, but well was the one
that did the heavy lifting and he was a super
great guy, huge music fan. So I've had many crazy
nights with a Cup. I'll give you a couple of stories.
One of them, I was in Tampa. I was in
Tampa when the Tampa was going for the Cup. But
I don't think they t remember what year that was.
I think it was before they had won. I think
they're playing Chicago was the year that they didn't win it.
But anyway, where there's this this bar called Hat Tricks
was just right next to the arena, and we're in
there with a whole bunch of people that night, and
one of one of them was my buddy Von Lewis,
who managed to still switch engage. He come down and
I had a chance to hang out with a cup
before then, because Mike just like, come come hang with
a cup. I'm like, what do you mean, Like, it'sa
in my hotel room. Just come by and you can
take pictures and do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, okay. So I went there, just.
Speaker 4: Sitting in his hotel room. I said, what happens when
you go out?
Speaker 3: So it just sits here.
Speaker 4: It's like there's no security or anything. He said that
not really, So anyway, uh uh, Vaughn goes. He goes, Hey,
I'm gonna it's getting late. It's getting like one thirty
in the morning or something. And I was like, Hey,
I'm gonna go Mike's gonna take me. And this hotel
was like about three minute walk from the from the bar.
So he goes, I'm gonna go over with Mike and
see the cup. Okay, good, have a good time. Next
thing I know, five minutes later, they're closing the bar early,
kicking everybody out except for you know, me and a
few of the hockey guys. And in comes the big
you know case with the cop and outcomes of the
cop and it's up on the bar. He's taking pictures
with it. It's crazy. So that was fun, and the
other one was so the the second Cup that the
Kings won. I went to all five of those games.
All the ones in New York they put the Rangers.
The ones in New York are the ones in LA
I believe it was game five, and I was with
my buddy Monty Pittman, who was playing guitar for Bandanna
for many years. Yeah, he's great, he's out with the
ministry now. But anyway, we were there because we both
lived in the South Bay at the time.
Speaker 3: So that's the game.
Speaker 4: Whatever. So I'm walking in the concourse in between periods
and I get a text from Lars and he goes Hey,
I see you. I'm like, what is this? He goes,
You're wearing a thin Lizzie shirt. I go, where are you?
So it turns out he was in a box right
behind where I was sitting, like about ten rows up
from I was sitting. Because his his wife is a
huge hockey fan. So they literally just decided that day like, hey,
let's go down and watch the finals game. So so
I was talking to them and I go, oh, cool,
you said hi and whatever. For a little while, they said,
you guys are leaving it after the game. I'm assuming
they go yeah, yeah, you know, we got to go
back up because you know, they can fight private and
all that stuff. So yeah, So anyway, the Kings win
it in all over time. So now Monty and I
are like, and you know, I know a few people
with the Kings, and obviously Lars was there, and so
Montian and I are like, well, so what do we do?
Like do we stay here and see what happens? Or
do we get out of here? Because just before a
year or two before that the Lakers had won the championship,
they frigging burned down downtown LA and it was like, you,
I know people that were working that game. They couldn't
get out till like six o'clock in the morning. So
we're thinking, okay, we're in downtown laing one, let's just
get out of here. We'll go back to the South Bay,
which is where all the players live, and there's a
couple of really great hockey bars there. Let's go down
there and celebrate because I'm sure there's gonna be a
big celebration. So we go back to get an uber.
We go back to back to Hermosa, which is where
the Big King's Bar was nothing. There's like five people there.
It's like nothing had happened, like no parties know nothing. Really,
this is lame then, So Mani and I were just
sitting there having a couple of drinks, celebrating, and then
I get a photo from Lars about, you know, half
an hour we're there him holding the Stanley Cup over
his head at at the lounge at at Staples, and
I'm like, He's like, He's like, they'll let anybody touch
this thing. I was like, I guess we made the
wrong decision. And they finally brought the cup down there,
but not until like two thirty in the morning or something.
I was not going to stay out that late. But
in retrospect, we should have because I know a bunch
of people were in the party scene where it was
like Lars and some friends might work for the Kings
and everything. It's like, we should have just freaking stayed
at Staples and there's no riots or anything.
Speaker 3: Nobody cares right right, Well, I could just imagine that
cup's about as tall as Lars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. He had some I think it was
him and his wife. Hole they get over their heads.
But I've I've had a lot of quality time at
the cup and and had, you know, been able to
bring friends over to see the In fact, I brought
Darius Rucker over to see the cup once. Yeah, it
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: That's good. I was hoping you were going to say
you were at the Pantera party.
Speaker 4: No, you know, I I could have been, which which
is the bummer. Uh, But it was one of those
things where there's just so much going on. I couldn't
get down there. However, Rita has and other people I
know have dispelled the rumor because the bigger rumor was
they threw the cup off the second story into the
pool and dented it. Well, they did throw it off
the second floor of the pool. But there's no dent
and it wasn't such a big deal. And that's been
confirmed by Ritos, you know, Dimes, Widow and and Mike
Bolton other people. So I was like, yeah, kind of
ruins the story a little bit. But I know, I know,
I know, I hate to I hate to break it
to everybody, but.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the podcast that you have right now.
I mean, because one of the reason I want to
have you honest to promote your shit. The podcast is
called one hundred Songs That Define Heavy Metal. How did
this thing come about? Because, like a lot of people
started a podcast over the pandemic. I've been doing this
for thirteen years. It's November fourth, is the thirteenth year
of this show, and you finally got into it. How
did it happen? And you know what finally drew you in?
Speaker 4: Well, I did do a podcast for a while before this.
I did it with my friend Sean Rourk who's at
NHL dot com, and we it was called Metal Misconduct.
We did it for about a little over two years,
so we would just talk to hockey players and athletes
and celebrities who loved metal, and Sean came up with
that idea and I go, it sounds like fun. But
you know these hockey players, you know, honestly have when
you're talking to them or you see them in the press,
they have no personality. Goes, let's just we'll talk about music.
It'll be fun, all right. So the first guy we
did was Drew Stafford, who played the Buffalo Sabers at
the time, and he's friends with a lot of people
that I knew really well too. But he was a
terrible interview, like horrible, like three words and that's it,
and I'm like, how are we going to get this
kind of talk? We talked over an hour. He was
so into the music, and afterwards Sean Sean texted him.
He's like, hey, man, like where did all that come from?
Like I've interviewed you before and it's like it's hard
to get anything out of you. He's like, I love music,
so I was talking about something I love doing. So
we did that for a couple of years and then
they need NHL put a kaibash on that and said, no,
do you think Sean does has to be on NHL
dot com. So we did that for a couple of years,
which is fun. But this came about so this guy,
Christian Blatt, who was a podcaster and producer. He was
Dennis Miller's guy for years and years and years. He
did all of his podcasts and TV shows and all
that stuff. So he he listens to Eddie Trunk all
the time, and I'll go on Eddie Show and going
to Swallow just kind of hang out for a couple
of hours, and he said, hey, you know, I hear
you on Eddie Shrunk. Would you like to do a podcast?
I'm like, yeah, sure, why not? And he kind of
came up with like, let's do It won't be a list,
but we'll do you know, one hundred songs. I forget
what the original tiught I was one hundred songs about
heavy metal, hundred met hundred belts songs or whatever it was.
And we're originally gonna do it through AXS TV because
they were starting a podcast division. Well that never happened.
The Access never started that, so it just kind of
just kind of sat around, and you know, he knows
people and whatnot, so about I don't know about a year.
A little over a year later, I went and did
the Metallica podcast are the guys who distribute that. These
guys from Pantheon Media text me and said, hey, we
heard you on the Metallica podcast. Would you be interested
in doing a podcast? It said, well, I have a concept.
So we met with them and kind of honed it
down a little bit and discussed it and got it
to go, and now I'm doing this weekly podcast.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.
Speaker 4: It is a lot of work, and that's the one thing.
It's a lot of fun to do, but it's an
insane amount of work. I mean, luckily the producer does
all the nuts and bolts of the whole thing, thank
God for that. But you know, I've got to come
up with the guests and the and the tracks. And
you know, because we do we do two parts. We
have a we talked about the production with a producer
or engineer, and then we talk about the actual saw
with either somebody involved in it or somebody a fan
of it. So yeah, that's the biggest problem is just
booking this thing and getting everybody's schedules together. And yeah,
it's it's it's more work than more work that I
don't need to be doing at this point.
Speaker 3: Welcome to my world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It is fun though, and so far the reaction
has been amazing, so that kind of makes it a
little bit better.
Speaker 3: Let's uh, you do have some products out now. You
have the brand new Metal Blade whiskey, which I have
not tried yet, and you have the Metal Blade coffee,
which I haven't tried yet. What made you want to
kind of dive out into other other realms of just
other than selling music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, you know, we've always had people approach us
about those sort of things, and where I was like,
let the band do it, you know, let them do it.
It's you know, let them do all these different you know,
branding sort of things. And at some point a few
people were like, look, you guys have a really good brand.
You're kind of missing out by not doing stuff with
your brand because not only is it, you know, potentially
making you somebody, but just you know about visibility and
you know, and you have a brand name that you
should use. So I'm like, all right, so we're thinking
about that. And then you know, both your and my
friend Scott McKinley. Yeah, I was talking to him one
night at a hockey game and he was mentioned that
he was kind of doing the branding because you know,
worked on that what was that show, the nine o
two and oh uh doctor Plastic Surgeon guy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forget what the name.
Speaker 4: Of the show was, but he was doing all the
like that, yeah, something like that, I forget. But he
was doing the branding for him, like all this, you know,
skincare line and all this sort of stuff. So he
was familiar with the brandy guy. Were actually looking for
somebody to kind of be the brand manager here, would
you would you be interested? And he said yeah, he
you know, kind of wanted to get out of the
giggy he was at at the time. So we armed
him on and just started doing a bunch of this stuff.
And uh, it's been fun. But you know, certainly the
all of the liquors we've made. We've made a couple
of beers, vodka, we've done a couple of these bourbons now.
But there's a run try, Yeah, there's a rum trying
to get paid for this is nearly impossible. That whole
world is kind of weird. But but it's been funny.
We've done coffees and candles and shoes and you know,
everything we could possibly imagine. But but it's cool. It's
just kind of cool and there's you can work with
some fun people doing it too. So as long as
the I think the biggest thing is we just got
to make sure whatever we're doing, uh, it's good quality.
And it's because you know, you're putting your name on there,
basically your brand on you don't want to ruin it.
So far, so far, knock on wood, it's been okay.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the vodka was great. I know because
I drank that entire bottle. So no good cheers, cheers, cheers.
Let's talk about the museum too. And like I said,
like over the over the pandemic, a lot of people
started podcasts. You built your man cave and then you
decided to open it up to the public. Is it
when did the idea of like, well, fuck, we should
let people come in and see this stuff?
Speaker 1: Still?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I moved, you know, I moved to Vegas
is like nine years ago now, and uh it was
we realized it was a lot cheaper to have storage
units in Las Vegas than it was in Los Angeles.
So we took everything that we had in our storage
units there and put it out here. And you know,
while I was going going on, you know, it's kind
of I was the one basically, you know, putting it
all in there just kind of it just sucks that
all this stuff is sitting in a storage unit. So
I was in the I was in the process of
doing about a bunch of real estate stuff. You know,
I dabbled in real estate buying and selling and stuff.
So this is you know, when the market was, you know,
you could buy a house for nothing in Las Vegas,
So so about a house just to kind of put
this stuff in. Ifin it's gonna be fun, good investment
for the house, and it's a I call these tangible
investments because you can actually do something with them and
you're still making money on the on the the property.
So I put this museum together in the house, and
you know, I just I figured I'll put it there
and invite friends and when they come in from out
of town. Somebody pop come into Vegas all the time,
so you know, guys like Charlie Minante and Joey Vera
from Art Saint and a few other guys would come
in and they'd go, hey, can we take pictures? I
don't care, do whatever he wants. They would start taking
pictures and putting them on social media, and I all
started getting all these responses, Oh my god, how do
we see this? Like where do we go see this?
And oh my god, I don't know. I mean, I
don't know. They could have thirty people at a single
family home in Vegas. I don't think it's zoned for that.
So kind of got the idea, well, let's just see
if there's a piece of property here that's not super expensive.
And we found this, you know, a little place and
a strip mall right off right near the right, near
the rio, right near the strip, and it was like
really inexpensive, and the owners were super cool. So I
just that was my pandemic thing. I just every day,
when you weren't supposed to be leaving your house, I
would go, you know, we'd luckily we'd started to move
in some of this stuff beforehand. But I just basically
spend every day kind of putting it all together over
there during the pandemic. So it gave me something to
do for four months.
Speaker 3: And I love that it's open now every day. It
used to be just sat just Saturdays, I believe, and uh,
but you still show up every once in a while
and do the tours. Do you enjoy doing that?
Speaker 4: Do you enjoy it's fun? It's yeah, it's super fun.
I wish I could do it more often because it's
it's super fun. It's a lot of fun. And uh yeah,
it's been every day noon to three except for Sundays
and go to metal bay dot com slash Museum for
all your information. But yeah, it's fun. It's fun, and
it's it's another thing where you know, I love the
reaction from the fans. I mean, every so far everybody
has seen it's been really into it, and you know,
when I'm there and not you know Scott he's doing
it now too, and he does a really great tour
over there. So yeah, it's fun. It's just it's cool
to share that sort of stuff with other people. Uh,
it's not just metal Blade stuff because we working one
artists over the years. We've got Deepurple Than Lizzie, Alice Cooper, Hayls,
sound Guard and Faith No More. There's you know, a
bunch of different guns and roses, a bunch of artifacts
in there, and there's no heavy metal museum really anywhere
in the world, so it's at least we have something
out here in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's dive into that a little bit. Like
the Guns N' Roses and the Mister Big A lot
a lot of people don't know that you had a
little hand in that stuff, Like the Appetite for Destruction.
You helped that record kind of get to where it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So in the early nineties, you know, we saw
the writing on the wall for the metal scene, unfortunately,
because you see all these new bands coming in and
all these major labels are signing all these bands, but
they have no idea what to do with them in
the underground world. And we're like, hey, look, you know,
we we can help market this to college radio, which
is really important and all the you know, underground fanzines
and underground record stores. You know, we can help you
because we have all the contacts there. You know, we'll
just hire us on and pay us some money and
we'll go do the work for you. And we did that,
started doing it. I worked out really well. The labels
were happy, you know, we got some extra money, you know,
when you know, it wasn't great, it was fun to
work with.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: We did Guns and Roses, Faith No More, Alison Chains, Aerosmith, Queens, Rike,
Mother Love uh yeah, Mother Love Bone, which turned into
Pearl Jam obviously Sound Garden, so a lot of that
Seattle stuff especially, So it was a lot of fun.
It was really cool because we you know, we all
love the music, right, I loved all that stuff. I
even though bands couldn't say that they were into metal
at the time. I mean all those bands were basically
metal bands, just doing it a little bit differently because
metal was kind of should should have been slapped to
the underground because we just big commercial garbage at that
point really, so so yeah, it was a lot of
fun to be able to do all that and do
all that work, and then of course we licensed you
know the whenever Warner Brothers real likes Steep Purple and
then Lizzie and Alice Cooper and a bunch of cool stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, fun. When did you know that this was
that the that Metal Blade was actually going to be
a thing. See he put out that first record and
you know that obviously the fame of you know, Metallica
being on there for the very first time, along with
Black and Blue and Keel and I think it was Steeler, right,
Steeler Steeler, Yeah, yeah, and Rat and all that stuff.
When did you When did it hit you that, Oh
Jesus Christ, I think I'm onto something here.
Speaker 4: It was a while. I mean, honestly, it was a while.
The first three years it was just me working out
of my mom a room in the back of my
mom's on the in the backyard of my mom's house
with no air conditioning, by the way, with the nills, California,
where it's one hundred and eight degrees in summer. That's yeah,
that's probably why I love the desert and the heats.
I just had to convince myself to get used to it.
But it's just me for like three years doing everything
all by myself, and I didn't really think much about it.
It was it was fun to do, and I was
helping the bands out. I wasn't really making any money.
I was still living, still living at home at that
point because I didn't have enough money to move out,
because it was you know, whatever money came in, you
put it out, and you know, it kind of took time.
I think it wasn't until you know, almost four years
in so that would have been like eighty five probably that. Yeah,
it started to get starting to get a little big.
We got like a little office center and our first employee,
and that's kind of one. I'm like, all right, well,
I guess I have an office now and an employee,
so I guess this might actually be something. And then
it kind of just kept kept growing from there, Like.
Speaker 3: How did Armored Saint come on to your radar? I mean,
I think they're playing this week here in Vegas. Correct,
They're playing in Thursday. Thursday.
Speaker 4: I will not be there, said, I'm in Dallas, and
I need to be two people at this point in
my life.
Speaker 3: But right right, well, hold on, were you at the
game last night watching my wild to get destroyed?
Speaker 4: No? No, No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was out
with a girlfriend last night. So but I did watch
the replay. Yeah, sorry about that, but.
Speaker 3: It's brutal, it happens.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean arm st it's a funny story.
Speaker 3: Example.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there was a publication back in California at
time called BAM. It was banary and magazine, but it
was throughout the whole state and they covered a lot
of metal and there was a full page ad for
this band that had won some Battle of the Bands
and they all wearing leather and spikes and they looked
super heavy metal, and I armored Saint was the name.
I'm like, this is amazing. So they had a phone
number on there to call, so I called this phone number, said, hey, y,
I'm Brian Slagall. I do these metal maskers. I'd love
to come out and see the band. And I forget
who was on the on the other front, said well,
they're they're out of commission for four or five months
because the bass player hurt his hand. And the story
behind that, which is told in the Dirt but complete
wrong story. Joey Vera was playing in a band with
Tommy Lee and they had played a gig up in
the mountains in California, and Tommy Lee picked up some
girl and and you know, Joey was with them, and
he was in like a Toya hatchback and it was
snowy and whatever. They spun off the roadway and the
ice and snow, and Joey went through the glass partition
in the back part of the thing and and messed
up his hands so he couldn't play for months. And
then they finally played it played a gig and I
went to go see them and just blown away. They
were like, oh my god, this this sort of European
style heavy metal band in La just you know, aside
from Metallica. You know, Slayer wasn't I didn't know Slayer
at that point. It's like, wow, this is really great.
So and they were really professional, sounded amazing, and you know,
they had a pretty big following out where they're from,
in Pasadena and stuff. So I'd just like, hey, let's
let's do something. And we ended up putting them on
a metal mascer and then doing an EP and off
that ebud they got signed to Rystalis pretty quickly, which
is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that, like I think Chris Chrysalis is no,
I wasn't Christalis. There was a there was another label
where basically they didn't know what to do with bands,
so he was more of a.
Speaker 4: Well that was incudible. Yeah, that was kind of all
of them back then. I mean, even Chrysalis. You know
Ron Fair, the guy that signed them, who's beyond become
like you know, he was running record labels and he
signed Christina Guilera and like a whole bunch of huge bands.
But he was great, he loved the band. But yeah,
Christals just had no idea what to do with them
at all. They didn't have any other metal rock bands
at that point. They didn't really anybody at the label
that really knew how to market and promote it, so
you know, it went the way it did.
Speaker 3: How much did MTV help you out, because obviously once
the head Banger's Ball started, you started seeing some of
these bands, and how much did that help your business?
Speaker 4: Oh? Massively huge. I mean there to this day, I
talked to so many kids who said, I first I
first heard about your bands on the head Banger's Ball,
and yeah, it was massive. And you get a video
on head Banger's Ball once a week. You know, you
had millions of people watching that show. You could just
see once once the video got played on there that
you know, record sales went up and just kind of
everything went up for the band. So it was massive,
I mean, just not just for us, for the entire
metal community. It was amazing because we had this outlet
that we never had before because before there was this
all underground and you're talking about college radio stations and
fanzines and you know, all the underground stuff, and all
of a sudden, here's this. You know, MTV was massively
huge at that time, So you had this mainstream channel
that would devote an hour or two of metal every week,
which was just incredible. And then you know, Beefa's Buttthead
came along and that was a big thing for us
because they loved a lot of our bands, and so yeah,
that was huge, hugely important.
Speaker 3: Was there ever a band where you just randomly saw
them and went, ah, fuck, I gotta do something with
these guys.
Speaker 4: Huh. I mean, well, kind of you know, happened in
the early days in the scene in LA because you know,
I didn't you know, I think I saw like a
band Savage Grace, that was like, oh man, these these
guys are really good, and then we worked with them
and then they're offshoot omen and there's a few of
them in the early days, but for the most part,
it was really from demo tapes that I got, like,
you know, back in the early days, like Trouble just
sent just cold Set me a demo from Chicago and
I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. Uh Voivod,
you know band from Canada sent me a demo. I
was like, oh my god, this is amazing. Work with
them and Fates Warning same thing. Got this demo from
Fates Warning. I remember we got the demo and it
was so good, it sounded so good. I remember calling
up I think it was Jim with THEOS who's the
main guy, and said, hey, can we like release this
like this? I think we can remix this and re
release it. And he's like, what are you talking about?
And so we ended up adding a couple more songs
and started working with them. So that's that's the most
part I think, trying to think. I don't think there's
any like Cold Times where I went and saw somebody.
Most of the time I had heard about them. For example,
Sacred Reich was a band I heard about in Phoenix
well before that, even Floughts them and Jetsam. They were
opening for a couple of bands, and people said you
should come out and see them. So I went and
saw them and blew me away and we signed them.
And it was similar take with Sacred Reich as well
out in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: When did you start getting an influx of demos?
Speaker 4: Honestly, after the first Metal Masacar came out, I mean
all of a sudden, I didn't really you know, I
didn't know there was all these other bands and other
parts of the cun Tree and the world that we're
doing the same thing. I just thought, there, here's our
little scene in La And of course there's no internet
or anything back then, but yeah, I started getting demos
really quickly, and then by the time, you know, we
put on a bitch EP and then a metal masker too,
and then it was the mailbox. I think I had
an appeal box at that point, because the mailbox in
my mom's house started getting a little too small.
Speaker 3: Was there any demos that you heard that you're like, ah,
that actually went on to be something big.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. There probably is, because there's a
couple of bands I know over the years that said that,
well he sent you a demo way back in the day,
but even they admit it wasn't particularly very good at
the time. But not too much, I think, because there
weren't that many bands and you could tell, you know,
I mean, that's the one, I guess, one thing that
I can. I can tell what's good and what's not good,
and luckily things that I like other people like. So
there weren't too weren't too many of those things that
we that I would hear and we missed out on.
I guess the only thing would probably be the early
death metal stuff is I wasn't really super into.
Speaker 3: It at the time.
Speaker 4: I was late to the party where you know, Relapse
and and Earache and some of those other labels. Roadrunner
were you know, way way into it. So I know
we got some of those band's demos at the at
that time, but just wasn't my thing quite yet. It
took took me a minute to latch onto that.
Speaker 3: I jump all over in this show, uh Napster. When
Napster happened as a record label owner, what was your
initial thoughts and was there did you have any ideas
of how to fix it?
Speaker 4: Well, see, here's the thing. I totally understood as a
record buyer. I totally understood that you would go spend
twenty dollars to buy a record, you'd have one good
song on it. I was like, happened to me, and
I was like, this sucks so and that was happening
a lot. So you know, these people found out a
way to make the music free, and everybody like, hey,
we can get music for free and it's good. So
as opposed to going out and saying, oh, this is
terrible and you know, a lot of people were saying
all those sort of things. I was like, well, how
can we how can we embrace this because these are
our fans, so we don't want to piss off our
fans by saying don't do this. So what we did
was we the bands were really great because the bands
would come out and say like, look, we understand why
you're doing this, and you know, more power to you.
But if you keep getting all this music for free
and we can't make any money, we can't make any
more music for you to enjoy. That's just the reality
of it. And slowly but surely kids started figuring that out.
I remember at some point there was a whole thing
where it was kind of a badge of honor to
buy the CDEs of the bands now to support them,
and more so I think in our world than anybody else.
And I never said, and I don't think any of
the bands ever said anything terrible about it, like you know,
fuck these guys or anything like that. It's just like, hey,
we get it, we understand why you're doing this, but
here's the reasons why you shouldn't be doing this. And
we kind of looked at it like, well, you know,
at least people are listening to these bands and getting
able to hear them, which is good, and you know
all of that sort of stuff. So we didn't really
rebel against it. We just did what we could to
control what we could control. And again it was really
the band's narrative, and we made a point to tell
you know, these bands, you got to tell that your
fans like, hey, this is we get it, we understand,
but if you keep doing this, you might not get
any music from us anymore.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, the thing that I used it, I mean
like everybody did, but I would like i'd listen to
something that I'd go out and buy it, yeah, you know,
because because I like having you know, physical product. And
the thing that I really hated is when stuff was
coming out before the album would come out, you know,
it's like here's the new Panterra sy It's like, what
the fuck it's not coming over like five months, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the big the big trouble.
Speaker 3: We had to do, like i e.
Speaker 4: Encrypt everything and do all these things to make sure
when we send out promo copies to the magazine and stuff,
it didn't get out. And you know, all that stuff
was kind of tricky and expensive.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is what it is. Well, it's weird.
I have the Silver Tide CD, a band out of Philadelphia,
a great rock band from the from the early two thousands,
and I can't rip it to my computer. It will
not let me rip it.
Speaker 4: It was like you said, it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you guys ever do anything like that?
Speaker 4: I think we did. I think we did a few
of those things, but really no, because it just it
was expensive to do, and I just felt like, you know,
these kids are gonna be pissed off, like you know, yeah,
no reason. Again, we don't want to anger the fans.
We don't want them to be upset with us. I
think it was more about an education system of why
it's a problem if.
Speaker 3: You do this, so like moving forward, I mean now
it's like, you know how everything works, now, what is
the best way to release music now? Because I was
talking to a Cat from the band and the Young Dubliners,
and he was saying that we have to release singles
because if we don't, if we release the entire record
and then you release a single after that, it doesn't
count as a single because it's already out on the album.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I think the way you know, we
I mean most labels and you know, we kind of
I don't want to say follow the leader, but we do,
you know, what everybody else does. And that's the kind
of the way you do now. You release two or
three singles before the record. It's more for people to
hear the stuff and you go, oh, that's cool, we
like it, and kind of get the word out that
the record's coming out. And then by the time the
record comes out, I just heard a couple of songs,
they've seen a couple of videos, and then you know,
we end up having these you know, massive first weeks
of sales, which is great because you know, we've had
I don't know, in the past few years, ten or
fifteen top ten Billboard albums, which is kind of crazy
the way things are these days. But yeah, that's it's
kind of the way you do it. But I think, yeah,
the problem is if you put out the full record
and trying to carve a single out of it is
just people already heard the record and it's like, well,
we don't really you know, they'll pick the songs, but
it's better to do it beforehand. And also just lead
up to it so people know it's coming out and
you know, all of those things. Although there's a lot
of artists now that are just only releasing singles yea,
and not even releasing albums, and even in the rock
and metal world, so we're not quite there yet. But
but you can do whatever you want. Like with King Diamond,
we've released you know, two singles in the last couple
of years because trying to get the album done has
been a little difficult. But you can do that because
you know, you can kind of do whatever you want
now there's really no no rules any any longer. So
that's kind of do you do you like that though?
Speaker 3: Do you do you miss the old way of doing it,
you know, before all the technology or like boom, this
is it. You know, you put out the single before
the album and then you know, then you release a
couple of singles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I get why it's done. That's fine.
But what I do personally is I don't listen. I
don't listen to this before they come out. I wait
until the day the record comes out, and that that's
whether it's one of our records or one of the
band that I really love, like for example, you know
Iron Maiden, like I easily could have got you know,
singles and and you know, pre album releases to listen
to the whole record. But I don't want to do that.
I want to wait, just like just like I did
as a kid, like listen to it. I'll get the
records out of the day. And even with our stuff,
I hate to listen to the record too early because
then by the time it comes out, you're like, hey,
I've already listened to that record on a thousand times.
So I wait, even on our records to go listen
to it and then try to get into it, which
is which is kind of kind of fun to do,
so just makes it differently. But but the other way
is the way people are used to having it done,
and I get it. It gets people excited for the
record by hearing there's a new song, and then they
hear another new one and they get super excited for
the record, and the record comes out it does really well.
So so that formula seems to work. So uh, you know,
we'll do it.
Speaker 3: So we I mean, we have to dive into kiss
before we go actually, before we get in kiss into
the void you are you were a consultant on the
series Into the Void on on Hulu. How did that
whole thing come about and were you what did you
think of the finished product.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a company called Banger Films, Sam Dunn and
Scott McFadden up in Canada that did you know the
Alice Cooper documentary, the Rush Seasy Top, the Metal Evolution
series Flight six x six Byron Maid And they do
amazing work. So some of the people that were like
the behind the scenes people there because I did a
lot of work with them, they went over to this
this company and Hulu. It's these guys that do this
show called Dark Side of the Ring, which is a
you know, the wrestling kind of the dark side of
Wrestling sort of thing. And I'm not a big wrestling
guy these days, so you know, I didn't really know
who they were. But somebody that I knew from Banger
Films said, Hey, we're starting this new venture and we
have this new thing we'd like to talk to you about.
I'm all right, So I get on with you know,
Evan and the producers and a couple of the people
from from Bangor who now work for the new company,
and they're just telling me like they were like humongous
metal heads and you know, they do the show Dogs
out of the Ring they've done for four or five years,
and they really wanted to do a metal thing and
they went to Hulu because it's on Hulu, and Hulu said,
whatever you guys want to.
Speaker 3: Do, you can do it.
Speaker 4: So they were like, we want you to come in
and help us because they you know, they love the music,
but they don't know anybody. So it's kind of like,
can you come in and help us kind of with
you know, getting people involved and getting his phone numbers
and talking to people and also just kind of helping
us with the concepts and these sort of things. So
I was like, yeah, it sounds it sounds like fun
of me. Anything I can do kind of the podcasts
the same thing. Anything I can do to get metal
to the mainstream or a different audience, and it's certainly
a television show on Hulu is amazing. So we just
went about it. It was definitely a lot more work
than I thought it was going to be. Uh, you know,
they they paid me for it, but they you know,
probably I probably think I made a dollar an hour.
Maybe it all comes to welcome to my world. And
it was difficult too, because you know, we're trying to
convince people that don't know there's no show, there's nothing
you can say like, hey, this is what it looks like.
You're kind of putting your hopes on these guys who
you know, do a wrestling thing to make a music thing.
So it took a long time, and like, for example,
the Pentear episode, you know, I talked to read A
six or seven months ago before they even ended up
doing anything, and she's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
and just kind of never happened, and I kept bugging her.
I feel bad bugging her, but it's like, you know, hey,
you know, we'd still love to do this, And eventually
it happened and it worked out great because the episode's
fantastic and Reda's like loved all the producers, all the people.
They're all part of the family now, so so that
was really cool. But yeah, it was difficult because you know,
trying to get you know, Sharon Osbourne and you know,
these people aren't easy to get to get into something
and it's something that they don't know really what it is, right,
and even for me, I was doing all this work,
but I didn't see any of the footage. They interviewed
me a lot for the death one, and there's another
there's a Cliff Burton one in the can that hopefully,
hopefully we get a season two. Yeah, that was really great.
That was going to come out. But then at the
last minute the Metallica people said, Okay, we want to
get involved with this now and you know, maybe get
the band interviewed and stuff. So we kind of, yeah, smart,
couldn't get it done in time, But hopefully there's a
season too, because that's going to be a really really
great episode.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: But even for me, and you know, I'm doing all this,
but I don't know what it's going to look like.
I don't know how it's going to be, you know,
the dark Side. I watched a few of the Dark
Side of the Ring things and they're really dark and
kind of exploited a little bit, and I didn't want that.
I said, I don't want to be involved with that.
So they did a good job. I think I've seen
all the episodes. I think they're fantastic.
Speaker 3: So far.
Speaker 4: The reaction from everybody I know, like ninety five percent
have all been super positive and so so it's been
a good experience, and more importantly, the people that were
involved in telling these stories, from the family members to
everybody else, really seem to be happy with the way
the episode turned out too.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well it was taken because I was a
couple of weeks ago I interviewed and I sent you
the picture of Jason McMaster wearing his old school metal
blade shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I asked him before we did, It's like,
have you watched this series yet? And he's like, no,
I don't have Hulu was like, fuck, just get a
trial just so you can watch it, you know, and
we're but I brought it up and he I started
talking about because he's a he's a metal metal guy,
you know, Jason, he hails you. And also he pulls
up this picture of him and the guy from Death
because they had worked together, you know, years ago, and
he's like, oh, dude, it's like it's so funny how
small this whole community is.
Speaker 4: Very much. So yeah, he's another lifer. He's a great dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So we got to get into kiss
before I let you go. Uh when did kiss? First?
I was just watching your episode with Stony, so of
course I got kiss on my fucking brain because I
always have Kiss on my brain. When did Kiss hit you?
Speaker 4: Well, I was really lucky. I grew up in LA
in the seventies, and I think it was it was.
I was pretty sure I started in seventy five.
Speaker 3: But we had a hold on, hold on. How old
were you.
Speaker 4: And seventy five? I was fourteen?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: So we have a radio station in LA called k
West and it was an early FM radio station and
they played all metal. That's where I discovered Judas Priest,
a Ufo, Kiss, so many other other bands, Rush and
all that stuff. They were playing all this all that
you know, seventies rock stuff. So it's I first heard
rock and roll all night on the radio station. I
was like, oh wow, what's this and went out and
bought the record. I was like, oh, this is great,
and then of course backtrack to the early records and
then I became obsessed with Kiss. They became my favorite band,
you know, pretty much right away I was making like
homemade Kiss shirts to where to school. These people at school,
what do you what is that? What are you doing?
I was like, no, this is a really great band.
So yeah, so I start started getting into them right. Probably.
I think that that album Tres to Kill had maybe
been out, I don't know, a couple a month or so,
probably before I got into it. And like I said,
then I went backwards to hotter than Allen Kiss.
Speaker 3: So you uh, and you said you first saw him
on the A Live Tour seventy six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it first comes whatever nineteen February nineteen seventy six
on the live tour. Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 4: I got super lucky because I was you know, I
was only what fifteen at that point. My mom was
not gonna let me go to any concerts at that point.
But I live next door to this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He's had a huge influence. He was an R and
B artist. He had a couple of records out on
A and M record. His name is Carl Graves, Black
R and B guy, had a couple of hits. But
he moved in next door to us, and he had
a studio and all this stuff. So you know, I
would hang out in the studio a lot. He let
me hang out. He gave me my first ever real
real tape. When he go on tour, he his his
wife would go on tour. I'd watched the house of
the studio for them. He was just a great guy
and he knew how much I wanted to go to
that show. So he went to my mom and said,
I'll take him. Like, I'll take him, don't worry about it,
I'll take him. And so he took me and it
was like, you know, just an unreal expert. I mean,
the first the first show anyways, like oh my gosh,
what is this? But see Kiss of all things? Then
it was just spectacular. They did the whole Kiss Alive
set so nice.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was incredible and scary. He moved away and kind
of lost track from years later, our lawyer works with
ingle Boyino and he was asking me, do you know
a guy named Carl Graves. I go, yeah, he was
the guy that you know it took me a first concert.
Well he's a keyboard player out in ingle Boyino.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: So we kind of reconnected years later because I think
supposed that he had talked to Bill and said, hey,
do you know the guy that runs Metal Blade, and yeah,
he's been our client since day one, So that was
that was pretty cool. But yeah, so Kiss nineteen seventy
seventy six.
Speaker 3: And you uh did you get to go to the
uh the amusement park filming. I did.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: I won tickets from the local radio station, so I went.
I couldn't believe I want, I want tickets. So I went,
and you know, I got there early. I go to
Magice Mount all the time, so I've been on multiple
rides a thousand times. So I went for a little bit.
But then I wanted to get a good place to
watch the show because they basically set up at the
parking lot. So I was there and I was waiting,
and they kept playing this one album over and over
and over again, and nobody knew what it was. I
kept asking, like, no one knew. I even went to
the soundboard and so do you guys know who this is?
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is?
Speaker 4: I was all right, but they played it a buch
of It was great. It was amazing. So the filming.
So the filming comes, they do the show, it's great.
Then they start explaining the film and they start doing
some of the acting scenes on stage and it's horrible
and they're explaining everything. Oh my god, this is gonna
be awful. So a couple of days later, I was
in the record store, and I would always you know,
search through the promo bins because you they won't buy
records for a couple of bucks. And I see a record,
I look at the song titles. I think that's the
album that they played at the Kiss Stack. So I
bought it insured if it was. And that was a
CDC's Poweradge album.
Speaker 2: Wo.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of when I went from Kiss being
my favorite band of all time to a CDC now
being the favorite pick.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, that's wild. Did you ever I mean, speaking
in southern California, did you ever like see Van Halen
at those backyard parties or no? Too young to see
him in the clubs? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was too young, I was.
Speaker 3: I was too young.
Speaker 4: I missed it by by probably a year or two. So, yeah,
I was too young to go to any of that stuff.
And I didn't really know much about what was going
on in clubs and stuff like that, because it was,
you know, I was still learning about these sort of things,
and you know, it wasn't you know, I was just
in school and playing sports and you know, my mom
wasn't gonna let me go, and I didn't have any
friends that were really into that scene. Either. So yeah,
never never got to go.
Speaker 3: Well before I let you go. Do you have any
good van Halen stories?
Speaker 4: Uh, there's a couple by the way, really quickly I did.
I did get to see Randy Rhodes playing Quiet Riot
once at the Starwood. My friend was taking lessons from
him and we went, we sat, we set to it
right in front of him at the show and the
band was gonna but he was fantastic, just fantastic. So
that was a lot of fun. I don't really have
a lot of Aerosmiths, sorry, a lot of Van Halen stories.
The one story I do have is I was going through,
you know again, going through all that when I moved
to Vegas. I'm kind of going through stuff and finding things,
and you know, I have all these different boxes over
the years. I had so much stuff, so I was
kind of trying to go through stuff but also to
see what was there for the museum. And I opened
this one box and there's this signed photo of Eddie
van Hale, like, hey, Brian, you know, nice to you know,
hope to see you soon or something really nice on
Eddie van Halm. Like I was for a minute, and
I'm like, where did I get this from and it
kind of remembered. I got at Nam and one of
the guys who was doing the evh apps apps at
the time was working with Eddie. I remember he was
asking me, you should come, you should come say hi
to Eddie. He'd love to he'd love to meet you.
I'm like, he knows, he knows who I am. He's like, yeah, yeah,
so but I never got to I never got to
see him. And I guess in lieu of yeah, he
gave me this autograph picture which is just spectacular. So
it's now well in my in my my music house,
that's well displayed there.
Speaker 3: That is fucking great. Brian, dude, I really appreciate you
taking the time to do this. Let me hit the
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