1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,319 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,319 --> 00:00:06,919 Epstein Chronicles. Over the years, we have heard from a 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,839 lot of women and girls who are abused by Jeffrey 4 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:13,880 Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. But the truth is a vast 5 00:00:13,919 --> 00:00:17,480 majority of the women and girls who were abused have 6 00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:23,199 never come forward and have never spoken publicly about what happened. Well, 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,320 in Jeffrey Epstein's case in twenty nineteen, when he was indicted, 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,000 there was a victim who was called minor Victim number one. Well, 9 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:36,960 minor Victim number one is now speaking publicly for the 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 first time about her abuse at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,679 So let's just dive right into the article and let's 12 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:47,320 see what she has to say. Headlined. We need the 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,119 Epstein files to be out. Central witness in Epstein's case 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,079 speaks publicly for the first time. Marina Leserta was minor 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,960 victim number one in Epstein's indictment. Sources say this article 16 00:01:01,079 --> 00:01:05,879 was authored by Peter Charlemboose and James Hill. The woman 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,799 who provided critical evidence that allowed federal prosecutors to charge 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Jeffrey Epstein with sex trafficking of minors in twenty nineteen 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,680 is speaking out publicly for the first time, urging lawmakers 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,200 to release records related to the convicted sex offender to 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,239 help his victims heal. Sources say that Marina Lecerta, thirty seven, 22 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:30,480 was identified in Epstein's twenty nineteen indictment as minor victim 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,680 number one and provided key information that helped prosecutors put 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,879 the sex offender behind bars. Can you imagine what this 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,719 lady has lived with all these years, knowing she is 26 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:46,000 minor victim number one and just keep him quiet because 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,400 she knew what would happen, right, She knew the nonsense 28 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:51,799 that would come her way. But now I think that 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,200 the chips have hit the table, and I think we're 30 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:56,239 going to be hearing from a lot of people that 31 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:58,840 have been silent in the past. And I think that 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,280 when you call something like this a hoax, you say 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,280 it's just you know, made up political rhetoric, You're going 34 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:06,519 to open the door to people who have actually been 35 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:09,400 abused to step up and say, hey, the only hoax 36 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:11,319 is the fact that you don't want to pursue this. 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,039 Speaking publicly for the first time, in an interview with 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,960 ABC News, Licerta called on the Trump administration to release 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,759 their records related to Epstein and encouraged other survivors of 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,879 abuse to come forward. And I think we'll see more 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,439 people coming forward. Like I said previously, when you have 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,080 one person step up like Marina's doing right here, that 43 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:39,120 usually leads to more. We saw what happened when Virginia 44 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,159 stepped up, so I think we might be in store 45 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:45,000 for something like that happening now. I mean, how many 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,319 of these young girls have we talked about in these depositions, 47 00:02:48,479 --> 00:02:52,240 in these documents that were being taken from places like 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,840 mc squared to live at Jeffrey Epstein's house. And when 49 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:01,280 we hear that this lady, Missleserta, is from Brazil, it 50 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:04,039 all makes sense, right. Think back to the deposition that 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,639 we read recently from Missus Vasquez talking about Jean lup 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,879 Bernell mc squared and there are trips down to South America. 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,479 It all comes into focus, doesn't it. And that's why 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,840 the document dumps are important because it confirms things that 55 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:23,159 we already knew. And the insidious part is this, they 56 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:26,159 know that. That's why they don't release the documents. They 57 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:27,960 know that there's people out there that are going to 58 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:30,960 tie it all together and put the pieces together and 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,400 they can't have their narrative blown apart right, So here 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,439 we are. I would like for them to give all 61 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,400 the victims transparency right to what happened and release these files. 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,080 It's not only for the victims, but for the American people, 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Lecerta told ABC News Lindsay Davis regarding Epstein, the wealthy 64 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:55,039 financier and convicted sex offender who died by suicide allegedly 65 00:03:55,319 --> 00:04:01,000 in a New York jail in twenty nineteen. Investigators for 66 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:03,639 his contact with Lecerta in two thousand and eight, but 67 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:08,800 Epstein secured a controversial and once secret non prosecution agreement 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 with federal prosecutors before she could tell a Grand Jerry 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,279 about her allegations of childhood sexual abuse. Investigators returned to 70 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Leserta more than ten years later, using her experiences to 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,439 build a case that charged Epstein with sex trafficking miners 72 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,240 in New York. According to the indictment, Licerta first met 73 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,959 Epstein when she was fourteen years old in two thousand 74 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,560 and two, when she was recruited to come to his 75 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:36,920 palatial New York home to provide a massage to Epstein, 76 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,279 an interaction that ultimately led to years of sexual abuse. 77 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:45,680 His house was a revolving door. There was always girls, 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Licerta told ABC News if he was in New York, 79 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,240 he had his weak prepped to see as many girls 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,519 as possible. I would say he was seeing about five 81 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,680 to maybe eight women, maybe even more, maybe up to 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,279 ten women a day. Well, no one, mister egg dick 83 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:06,000 and is disgusting. As proclivities, I don't put it past them. 84 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:09,360 So if miss Leserta says that she saw up to 85 00:05:09,399 --> 00:05:11,120 ten women a day going in and out of there, 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,480 I believe her. After immigrating from Brazil with her family, 87 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,519 Licerta said that she was living in Queen's and sharing 88 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,879 a single bedroom with her mother and sister when she 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,040 first met Epstein. A friend first introduced her to the financier, 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,199 framing it as an opportunity to make money to support 91 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:33,480 her family. The typical EMO find a vulnerable girl, drag 92 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,639 her into the web and start grooming her and normalizing 93 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:41,040 the abuse. She said that you know, I was going 94 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,040 to massage somebody and there wasn't much specifics. Lyserta said, 95 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,399 I wasn't expecting what led on to that day because 96 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:51,040 I think with Jeffrey Epstein, it starts somewhere, but then 97 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,240 it ends either you having sex with him, whether you 98 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:57,600 like it or not. Over the next three years, Lycerta 99 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,839 said she became part of a growing network of your 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,839 girls recruited by Epstein in New York, meeting and being 101 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:07,120 forced to have sex with a disgraced financier two to 102 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:10,360 three times a week. He forced me to have sex 103 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,480 with him. Basically, I really had no choice, she said, 104 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,279 fourteen year old girl. Keep that in mind, okay. Leserta 105 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,399 said Epstein eventually paid her thousands of dollars, and she 106 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:24,240 believed being associated with the financier would open doors for 107 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,560 her as an immigrant from Brazil. She recalled that Epstein 108 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,199 displayed photos of high profile celebrities and politicians in his 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,639 home and that he conducted phone calls with high profile individuals. 110 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,240 I thought that if I just played along, that I 111 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,680 wouldn't be this immigrant from Brazil, you know, and that 112 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,040 I would have something to look forward to, she said. 113 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,279 And Epstein, along with Jean Luke Brunel, they loved to 114 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,000 exploit that that was one of the levers that they 115 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,000 love to pull on. They would have these girls here 116 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:57,680 from all these countries, whether it's Eastern Europe, South America, whatever, 117 00:06:58,079 --> 00:07:00,160 and a lot of these girls would be here on 118 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,480 visas or the promise of a visa that was provided 119 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,800 by Epstein and Jean Luke Brunel. But what really happened 120 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,839 is they ended up coming here and getting abused. But 121 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,920 Lacerta said, Epstein's interest in her faded as she grew 122 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:18,279 older and she began recruiting other women for him. It 123 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,600 came to a point when I was I'd say sixteen 124 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:23,319 and a half or seventeen, he didn't want me anymore. 125 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:27,160 He was just like, you're too old, she said. Years later, 126 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:30,560 Lycerta said the FBI agents arrived at her doorstep to 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,000 ask questions about Epstein. She said she immediately called Epstein, 128 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,120 who provided her with a lawyer. While she prepared to 129 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,079 speak to the grand jury in two thousand and eight 130 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:43,720 about Epstein, the opportunity was cut short when Epstein secured 131 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,720 a deal with prosecutors. Imagine that shit. All these girls 132 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,040 were lined up to speak against him, and he just 133 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,639 miraculously gets this deal. Oh, I'm sure that alex Acosta 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,560 was the one pulling the strings right, the all powerful 135 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,079 alex Acosta. I would felt much better today speaking if 136 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:03,759 I was able to speak in two thousand and eight. 137 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,560 She said, if they give me the chance to speak, 138 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,199 these women would not be through this. She's not wrong. 139 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:13,720 How many people would have avoided the abuse if he 140 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,519 didn't get that deal. And that's why the NPA is 141 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,079 so garbage. That's why the NPA has to be done 142 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:23,360 away with. We should just accept it. Why why should 143 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:27,199 we accept it? Why should we think that that's okay. Well, 144 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,439 i'll tell you what. I don't think it's okay, and 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,759 I never will. A guy like Jeffrey Epstein shouldn't get 146 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:36,960 a deal like that, especially one that protects unnamed co conspirators. 147 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Are you kidding me? Right now? Eleven years later, the 148 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:44,799 FBI contacted Licerda again as New York prosecutors opened the 149 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:49,679 case into Epstein. Her experience ultimately provided prosecutors with key 150 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,919 information to unravel his alleged network of child sex abuse 151 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,919 in New York. Again with the alleged there's no alleged here. 152 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:02,879 This is what happenedople were molested, Jeffrey Epstein diddling kids, 153 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:08,559 no need for the alleged. The Trump administration has been 154 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,600 dealing with the fallout from its decision not to release 155 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,000 materials related to the investigation into Epstein, following the blowback 156 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,919 it received from MAGA supporters after it announced last month 157 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,720 that no additional files would be released. Epstein, whose private 158 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,600 island estate was in the US Virgin Islands, has long 159 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,080 been rumored to have kept a client list of celebrities 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,840 and politicians, which right wing influencers have baselessly accused authorities 161 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,399 of hiding. So all of a sudden, ABC News is 162 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,440 boot licking. Now, look, I don't believe there's a list, 163 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:45,519 but let's not act like it's just MAGA who was 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,000 asking for it. And that's certainly a problem with a 165 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,080 lot of these journalists. They can't help themselves. Just report 166 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,200 the news, bro, you start talking like that. That's why 167 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 people think it's a big hoax. Right, Oh well, it's 168 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,840 just another political hit job. Did you see so and 169 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,440 So's article. Just give us a neutral reporting of the news, Okay, 170 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,279 save the opinions for the opinion pieces. The Justice Department 171 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,799 in the FBI announced in July that they had found 172 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,120 no evidence at Epstein kept a client list, after several 173 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:19,080 top officials before joining the administration had themselves accused of 174 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,919 the government of shielding information regarding the Epstein case. On Tuesday, 175 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,799 Lacerta met with congressional lawmakers alongside other survivors of Epstein 176 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,360 decades after her abuse. She said the incestan coverage of 177 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,799 Epstein and the lack of transparency only exacerbate the harm 178 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,159 suffered by his victims. We need to have transparency, We 179 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,919 need the Epstein files to be out, she said. Today 180 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,519 I spoke about it. I want to have my files 181 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,480 so that I can begin to heal. And over the 182 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:52,279 next few days, I'm sure we're going to hear from 183 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,759 a lot of other women who we haven't heard from before, 184 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:59,799 and like usual, we'll be here every step of the way. 185 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:02,519 All of the information that goes with this episode can 186 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,799 be found in the description box.