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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k

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<v Speaker 1>IF I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Okay, we're not doing ailments, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but my husband this morning says, did you get Gary

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas present yet? And I said I did, And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, oh, okay, because I was gonna recommend you

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<v Speaker 1>get him that face stuff that I use. And I go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I thought about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, but that's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird, Like I'm not going to get him grooming products,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's odd.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually there's a funny thing. Yes, there is a

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<v Speaker 4>line about what you can buy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, yes, And so then he says it was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. So then he says, well, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you tell him that it was from me? And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's not weird? And I'm like, that's kind of okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that would weird, that would work. Yes, I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to buy a friend. I was going to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a friend some workout shorts that I like that I

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<v Speaker 1>that I've used in there. It's a great brand and

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<v Speaker 1>super comfortable and all that sort of stuff. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through and I'm ordering a pair of shorts. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it says liner or no liner, and I thought that's

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<v Speaker 1>too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I just assumed, like even if it came with

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<v Speaker 4>the liner, which is like the built in boxer short

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thing, our boxer briefs. Basically, if it had

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<v Speaker 4>just come with it, I would have been okay, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would have bought the shorts and been like, I

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<v Speaker 4>really like these shorts and here's you know, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>the right size and if not, very easily don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so it was that decision between liner and no liner.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, that's too far, because then I have

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<v Speaker 4>to tell them I assume you like either one or

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<v Speaker 4>the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing about your genitals exactly exactly, I gave any thought

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<v Speaker 1>to your genitals, and too far.

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<v Speaker 2>I picked a color.

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<v Speaker 4>I picked the in seam lengthsage also that's the touchy one,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I and then I picked, like, uh, the

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<v Speaker 4>size that I thought was appropriate. But then it asked

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<v Speaker 4>liner or noliner, and I was like, I'm gonna pull

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<v Speaker 4>a plug on that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with like small, medium, large choices, but then

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<v Speaker 1>like if it gets to be like pants, like.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the thirty two, thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four or the caller side the next size all that

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds too intimate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's just a line, right, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the drones have not not stopped coming, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>this is getting this is getting kind of weird. There

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<v Speaker 4>are briefings that are going on, some of them classified,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them not where We've got the FBI, the Coastguard,

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<v Speaker 4>Department of Defense, other you know, New Jersey State Police, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>That are briefing lawmakers on what the hell's going on

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<v Speaker 4>and the sky's over New Jersey and New York. Congressman

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Gotttheimer just this morning held a news conference where

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<v Speaker 4>he said, listen, I don't think this is a big deal,

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<v Speaker 4>but I need to know this is not and I

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<v Speaker 4>need the government to tell me that.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you to know that based on the information,

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<v Speaker 5>the briefings that I've received to date, I'm not concerned

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<v Speaker 5>about any imminent threats to public safety or our national

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<v Speaker 5>security regarding these drones. But and I've made this very

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<v Speaker 5>clear to the FBI, the Homeland Security in the FAA,

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<v Speaker 5>the agency is chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity, they

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<v Speaker 5>must immediately disclose more information to the public. It's totally

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<v Speaker 5>completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going

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<v Speaker 5>on that people are seeing with their own eyes. And

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<v Speaker 5>even if it's not all drone activity, and some of

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<v Speaker 5>it is manned aircraft, there appears to be plenty of

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<v Speaker 5>drone activity that people are seeing with their own eves.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the

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<v Speaker 5>public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Gotttheimer is a Democrat, and he's going after the

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<v Speaker 4>sitting administration and the agencies that are working for them

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<v Speaker 4>and saying you're not doing enough to assuage the fears

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<v Speaker 4>of the people of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Specifically New Jersey. A hobbyist group. Why haven't we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from the hobbyist group? And when are people going to

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<v Speaker 1>start shooting these things? It's only a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's other we saw.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say hysteria because that it brings

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<v Speaker 4>with it a negative connotation and awareness of things in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky. Think of what happened back when China floated

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<v Speaker 4>that balloon across the continental of the United States. People

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<v Speaker 4>then started seeing more and more balloons, and we saw

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<v Speaker 4>Norads scrambling jets to shoot some balloons out of the

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<v Speaker 4>air because we didn't know what they were doing, and

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't know what they were So in this case,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm highly suspect of what the government is doing right now,

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<v Speaker 4>which is staying incredibly silent about it. It's one thing

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<v Speaker 4>to have the guy at the White House Press Briefing podium,

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<v Speaker 4>John Kirby, for example, come out and say we believe

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<v Speaker 4>it's manned aircraft. Okay, but what is that me? What

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<v Speaker 4>does that mean? Does that mean there is somebody in

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<v Speaker 4>a drone? There are big enough you know that style

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<v Speaker 4>multi propeller.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make you feel better? Yeah, that's the crime. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So you say it's man where is it going and

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<v Speaker 4>what is it doing? Why is it hovering for four

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<v Speaker 4>hours in Bob mcgillicutty's backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are the rules and why haven't the rules

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<v Speaker 1>caught up with the amount of drones out there?

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<v Speaker 4>And if this is this is the other part about

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<v Speaker 4>it that I think is most frightening. One of the

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<v Speaker 4>things that we saw one of the headlines that we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen repeatedly over the last couple of years when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, when Russia

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<v Speaker 4>invaded Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the use of drones.

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<v Speaker 4>Not just drones, you know, predator drones that can drop

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<v Speaker 4>our fire missiles, but drones as suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Vehicles or you know, you arm them with.

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<v Speaker 4>Explosives and you drive that thing into a tank or

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<v Speaker 4>a battalion or whatever. That should be top of mind

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<v Speaker 4>for the people who defend us. Why aren't Where is

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<v Speaker 4>that defense system against drones? Does it only exist in

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<v Speaker 4>those forward operating bases, does it only exist outside of

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<v Speaker 4>the United States? Or do we have the capability here

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<v Speaker 4>to defend if this, if these were from uh evildoers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would just be nice to have an

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<v Speaker 1>adult in the room step forward and say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we have found. This is where they originated, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where they're coming from. This is you know it

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<v Speaker 1>in the fact that there's no voice, no singular voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I give you a voice? Yeah, the voice of

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<v Speaker 4>the person who is currently in charge. And granted, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>if Trump starts sounding like this, I'm gonna play it too.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is pretty bad at the moment, and others

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<v Speaker 2>could do better than I did. I'm not saying I

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<v Speaker 2>was perfect, but ends up at this moment, the best economy,

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<v Speaker 2>strongest economy in the world. He sounds full of life

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<v Speaker 2>and for all Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Leader, Leader of America, we got a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't you do not have a lot to do? Kindly

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<v Speaker 1>step aside, it is time for you to Also, why

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<v Speaker 1>is Nancy Pelosi going to a Battle of the Bulge remembrance?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know she was there for it, but

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is she doing being shuttled across the world.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>She's now suffered an injury, admitted to a hospital in Luxembourg.

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<v Speaker 1>She pulled a Mitch McConnell. It looks like another person

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<v Speaker 1>who should be retired.

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<v Speaker 4>A statement from her office said, while traveling with a

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<v Speaker 4>bipartisan Congressional delegation speaker Emerita, Nancy Pelosi sustained an injury

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<v Speaker 4>during an official engagement and was admitted to the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>for evaluation.

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<v Speaker 2>But still no work. Did she I mean, she's eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she fall?

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<v Speaker 4>That seems the most likely kind of an injury for

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<v Speaker 4>someone to It's not like she was arm wrestling somebody

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<v Speaker 4>and snapped her timmy in her Wait a minute, no,

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<v Speaker 4>we're radius and Ulna.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about leg Pelosi's body parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing like I don't want to hear about your

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<v Speaker 1>dry skin patches.

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<v Speaker 4>You asked if I put lotion on. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you opened the door. You're gonna have to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Kono from the Morning Show broke news to me that

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi trades and people mimicking her trades are a

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<v Speaker 1>thing I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you, yes, absolutely, people make money. People make money

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<v Speaker 4>off of the moves that.

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<v Speaker 2>She has made.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>We will continue and in just a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 4>the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder, specifically that

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<v Speaker 4>Luigi Guy was not a United Healthcare insurance holder.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, if you want to quit this show, leave now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not stand on the sidelines and refuse to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh if we need a linebacker, we need a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>don't suit up if you're not going to go be

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was the other thing. Cono said. He's bad

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<v Speaker 4>mouth and the forty nine ers fix true. You team lost, No,

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't lose, they quit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's a different a bad look.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I also become that guy who's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to catch that.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not catch that? Like I could catch

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<v Speaker 2>it and you jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Up when you say that you throwing this bottle cap

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<v Speaker 1>to me right here at a slow speed.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you not catch that?

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<v Speaker 3>You sit down? Sit down, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking about the ongoing drone issue over New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people sound like paranoid idiots? Get it together?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that we're paranoid that I think this is Aliens,

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<v Speaker 4>or that it's Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>Or that it's Russia. But to know who it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the part that bothers me is.

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<v Speaker 4>That it's that there's been such a vacuum of information

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to this kind of thing. This should be,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope a wake up call to federal and state agencies. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to be able to identify what these things

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<v Speaker 4>are pretty quickly, because if this was something that was nefarious,

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<v Speaker 4>New Jersey would be gone. Because we don't have the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to defend against this.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI should come out and say, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that there's unease going on right now, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly who's flying these drones. It's the New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>Drone Hobbyist Association and they're gearing up for their holiday

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<v Speaker 1>show or whatever. It's the NNGDH or it's a run

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<v Speaker 1>in China together, just tell me, you know the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what we are going to see, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>this weekend is going to be a key for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to see a lot of people reporting drones everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night, apparently there were some over Temecula. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>report that there was some mysterious lights moving at extreme

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<v Speaker 4>speeds in the skies over Eugene, Oregon a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>mysterious drone sightings over the next couple of days. The

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<v Speaker 4>next step in the Luigi Mangioni case is still trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out why he targeted Brian Thompson, the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>And we now know he was not insured by United Healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no record that he was ever insured by the company.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting because Candice Dalan DeLong is a former FBI profiler

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<v Speaker 4>and said that may take away one aspect of motive.

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<v Speaker 4>But as we've been saying, people are looking for a

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<v Speaker 4>hero and feel when the government doesn't have the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to do something, they're going to rely on these vigiliantes

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<v Speaker 4>to do it for it doesn't matter that.

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't personally injured. He seems to have taken it

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<v Speaker 6>upon himself to be some kind of avenging angel, and

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<v Speaker 6>he has, in what he did, kind of wrapped himself

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<v Speaker 6>in this cloak of righteousness. I am here to protect

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of all of you from evil insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an interesting online footprint that this guy had. We

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<v Speaker 4>the health issues that he was going through. He's twenty again,

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<v Speaker 4>he's twenty six years old, but he was talked about

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<v Speaker 4>changing his diet because of irtable ball syndrome, battling his

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<v Speaker 4>chronic back pain, restless sleep, he said in twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, posted about how the back pain came

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<v Speaker 4>after a vertebrae had split slipped. Sorry, and he wrote

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<v Speaker 4>online he said, when my spondee went bad on me

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<v Speaker 4>last year, remember spond spond low life thesis. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>it was completely devastating as a young athletic person. Seemingly

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<v Speaker 4>was just destined to chronic pain in a desk job.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said that representation was terrifying, inaccurate, and completely

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed me until I realized the silent majority of fusion

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<v Speaker 4>spinal fusions are highly successful. I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>guy who was I could not say that at the

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<v Speaker 4>age of twenty five or twenty six, I had anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>near as much medical knowledge as this guy did about

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<v Speaker 4>my own well, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very intelligent, is very intelligent. We've seen that throughout

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<v Speaker 1>his entire life, like the most intelligent kid at his

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<v Speaker 1>very high profile schools.

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<v Speaker 2>There just had to have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep going back to this because it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the Oulkham Schraser and it's that there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that happens sometimes with young men in particular when they

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 4>If he is taking We don't know much about his medications, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's in chronic pain.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he's not on any take killers. That's weird, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be weird. Florida woman has been arrested in

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<v Speaker 1>charge please say she ended a phone call with her

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<v Speaker 1>health insurance provider with threats mimicking the wording associated with

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<v Speaker 1>this shooter. Now she's forty two. Her name's Breonna Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>She was speaking with someone from Blue Cross and she

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<v Speaker 1>was told that her medical claim was denied. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the recorded conversation and she can

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<v Speaker 1>be heard saying delay denied.

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<v Speaker 3>Depose you people are next.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrested for that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that she chose the words that he wrote

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<v Speaker 4>on the bullet casings, which was actually different than the

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<v Speaker 4>book title. All about the insurance company and how they

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<v Speaker 4>deny claims all the time. Yeah, this guy, this Luigi Mangioni,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, may have been identified by San Francisco

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<v Speaker 4>police four days before he was arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, remember he was declared missing from his mom to

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco police months ago because she thought that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry it was in November. It was mid November, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe when she contacted SFPD and said my son's missing.

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<v Speaker 1>She believed him to be in San Francisco. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a report out that she hadn't talked to him since July.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it would make sense if he was reported

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<v Speaker 1>missing by his mom. It's a rich, high profile family.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to get attention, so they probably had an

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<v Speaker 4>The San Francisco Chronicle says an SFPD officer tipped off

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<v Speaker 4>the FBI after they recognized those surveillance images that were

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<v Speaker 4>put out by the NYPD, which of course they would

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<v Speaker 4>because hey, they're looking for the guy too. He was reported,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you said, November eighteenth was the date that mom

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<v Speaker 2>So oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of the FBI, just a quick headline the new

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<v Speaker 4>report that came out yesterday. The FBI did not have

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<v Speaker 4>any undercover agents in the crowd in the January sixth

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<v Speaker 4>fiasco at the Capitol, but the Justice Department's Inspector General

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<v Speaker 4>is a big butt said that they had more than

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<v Speaker 4>two dozen informants in the crowd that day. Some of

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<v Speaker 4>them were instructed to go there, but many of them

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<v Speaker 4>just went on their own. Three of the informants, referred

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<v Speaker 4>to as confidential human sources, were specifically tasked by the

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<v Speaker 4>FBI Field Office to go to DC to report on

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<v Speaker 4>domestic terrorism case subjects that they had been investigating. And

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, a special Holly the edition of Have

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<v Speaker 4>you Ever Met This Person before? That's a news feature.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we're going to start today or something like that. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to the that's the voice of Russ Taff

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<v Speaker 4>and he is the lead singer of the Imperials, or

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to the and he is going to join

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny is I guess it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>big of a coincidence. But I was listening to just

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<v Speaker 1>my Spotify Starred playlist or whatever, and that came on

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<v Speaker 1>when I got in the car this morning. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first song, but that popped up, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got here and you said, we're interviewing him today.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course that's how it works.

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<v Speaker 3>Wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>College football's bowl season starts tomorrow after Army Navy or

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<v Speaker 4>there is the annual Army Navy Game tomorrow, but also

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<v Speaker 4>the Jackson State Tigers in South Carolina State Bulldog in

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<v Speaker 4>the Cricket Celebration Bowl tomorrow, and the is fourst Salute

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<v Speaker 4>to Veterans bull between the South Alabama Jaguars and the

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not the arc of the Covenant, but this

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<v Speaker 1>story in the La Times comes straight out of an

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones esque type of movie, right, But it's real

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<v Speaker 1>life and it's hard to believe that this many people

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<v Speaker 1>and this many lives were caught up with this weird

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<v Speaker 1>cursed emerald heavy, also very heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's emerald.

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<v Speaker 3>It's from Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Bahea Emerald, and it talks about this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this lawyer here in La John Natalenko, who opened up

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<v Speaker 1>a letter about ten years ago. It was allegedly from

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil and it was a Brazilian government person that wanted

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<v Speaker 1>his help to retrieve a stolen eight hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six pound emerald.

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<v Speaker 2>He said this was twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the height of the Niget jury and Prince scam,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what the hell is this?

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<v Speaker 3>And he just throws it away. I'm a fallen for this.

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<v Speaker 1>But then his boss says, could you look into this

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<v Speaker 1>to find this Bahea Emerald?

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He reaches out to a colleague in his office in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a big network of PI firms or

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<v Speaker 1>what have you, and he learns that the Bahea Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>is real and that the Brazilian government was seriously asking

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<v Speaker 1>him to help track it down in California.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean trying to trace the lineage.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this the provenance of this Bahi emerald is crazy

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<v Speaker 4>because it starts back in two thousand and one. A

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<v Speaker 4>couple guys from northern California. We're in some financial dire

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<v Speaker 4>straits because of a failing tech startup that they got,

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<v Speaker 4>So they were going to go and basically buy emeralds

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<v Speaker 4>down in Brazil and bring them back to the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and try to make a profit on them to

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<v Speaker 4>save this failing investment that they had made.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to use the emeralds as collateral on

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<v Speaker 1>a loan to save the startup.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never heard of that being done.

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<v Speaker 4>So they secured twenty five million dollars, or they would

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<v Speaker 4>secure twenty five million dollars worth of small, cut and

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<v Speaker 4>polished emeralds from a couple of guys, and they would

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<v Speaker 4>use the stones as collateral, like you said, to participate

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<v Speaker 4>in the investment program. They was going to make quick money.

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<v Speaker 4>They were going to just cash out and everything was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be fine. But no one from their group

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<v Speaker 4>was able to assemble a loan that would be used

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<v Speaker 4>to buy the cut emeralds in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>But during the trip, the two guys in Brazil who

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<v Speaker 1>had actually plucked this thing from a mine in there

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one, decided to take the Americans

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<v Speaker 1>to show them this Bahea emerald. Remember, they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to look for smaller emeralds, and there said, well look

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<v Speaker 1>at this one. A month later, one of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>from northern California wires one of the guys from Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>sixty thousand dollars a fee that he said was used

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase the Bahea emeralds, But in court documents they lied.

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<v Speaker 1>They said this was used to cover the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>cutting and polishing a collection of emeralds that they had

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<v Speaker 1>gathered for this loan. In the meantime, the Bahea emerald

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<v Speaker 1>mysteriously disappears in transit to California. They think it was

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<v Speaker 1>someone in the Brazilian government to blame, so they never

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<v Speaker 1>file a theft report. Of course, they never file a

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<v Speaker 3>Shenanigans now.

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<v Speaker 4>And the guy, when he was asked about where the

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<v Speaker 4>bill of sale was, did you guys keep the receipt

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<v Speaker 4>on this thing? He say, oh, yeah, well actually I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I did keep the receipt, but it burned up

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<v Speaker 4>when my house burned down in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>So a judge gets involved.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty fourteen, a judge in La County and said

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<v Speaker 4>that that guy's testimony was like sand in the wind,

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<v Speaker 4>constantly shifting and changing its shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the guy that he went with to Brazil, the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy from northern California, those two the fall of

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<v Speaker 1>their business, had a falling out themselves. Apparently it was

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<v Speaker 1>his business partner turned rival that ended up possessing the emeralds.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy sent the stone from Northern California to a

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<v Speaker 1>storage facility in New Orleans where it happened to become

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<v Speaker 4>So so what they're going to do is they they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to sell this whole thing. If a guy's going

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<v Speaker 4>to say, you know what, let's cut our losses. Just

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<v Speaker 4>sell this whole, this eight hundred and thirty six pound

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<v Speaker 4>block that has a bunch of emeralds in it and

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<v Speaker 4>will cash out. So they enlist a couple guys, Larry

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<v Speaker 2>You can't make this up. It's just it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So they ship the stone back to San Jose try

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<v Speaker 4>to get a buyer.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Larry the Plumber says to Jerry the gem dealer

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<v Speaker 1>that he was kidnapped by Brazilian warlords asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>send ransom money. So it was the gem dealer, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>who decided to take over efforts to sell the stone

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<v Speaker 1>because the Plumber had gone off the deep end.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry sells the stone, transports it to a storage facility

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<v Speaker 4>in al Monty, couldn't or wanted to sell it, couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>find a buyer, but uses it as collateral for some

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<v Speaker 4>other gem deals that he's been doing. That deal falls

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<v Speaker 4>through the other one that he was using this collateral for.

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<v Speaker 2>He moves the stone to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Now not happy about the disappearance of the Emerald, the

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<v Speaker 4>guy actually reported it stolen, Larry Larry the Plumber reported

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<v Speaker 4>it stolen from el Monty. So the La County Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 4>Department gets involved. And I can't imagine what that call

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<v Speaker 4>was like for these guys who were like, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 4>what wait, where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 4>You just said it was in Hurricane Katrina. It goes

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<v Speaker 4>from there to Idaho, It goes from Idaho to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part is when the detectives from the La

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's department go to Idaho where they basically threatened

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<v Speaker 1>to unwrap every present underneath the Christmas tree and the

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<v Speaker 1>home where the gem is supposed to be to look

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<v Speaker 1>for it.

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<v Speaker 4>To look for it. Now, a judge finally gets involved.

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<v Speaker 4>They find it in Vegas, they bring it back to

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<v Speaker 4>it's an evidence now here in La County. The judge

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<v Speaker 4>decides after all of this, it still belongs to the

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<v Speaker 4>government of Brazil, and basically what it is is that

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<v Speaker 4>if there's no appeal, they're going to do a full

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<v Speaker 4>repatriation ceremony for this eight hundred and thirty six pound

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<v Speaker 4>emerald back to Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>But the stone, when smuggled here back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five, came with it. All of these crazy stories, right,

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<v Speaker 1>some are fact, some are fiction. There's the guy from

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<v Speaker 1>northern California who swore his house burned to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>There was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Startup guys who lost it to the flooding of the hurricane.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the plumber that I aimed he was kidnapped

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<v Speaker 1>by Brazilian war lords. So there's all this talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it being a cursed gem. I think the people involved

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<v Speaker 1>with the gem and acquiring the gem were just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of liars and charlatans, and that's where these stories

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<v Speaker 1>came from. However, the detective right the PI that was

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<v Speaker 1>contacted by the Brazilian government says, I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 1>it in person, but there's a small part of me

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<v Speaker 1>that may just throw salt over my left shoulder, keep

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<v Speaker 1>my fingers crossed behind my back.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away.

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<v Speaker 4>I have always dreamed about a dog that could speak

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<v Speaker 4>and understand what I tell it.

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<v Speaker 6>Speak Hi there?

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<v Speaker 2>Did that dog just say Hi there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, my name is Doug. I have just met you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love you. My master made me his collar.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a coded smart master, and he made me

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<v Speaker 4>his collar so that I may talk squirrel.

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<v Speaker 2>And you may have seen the videos.

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<v Speaker 4>There have been plenty of them, even small documentaries made

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<v Speaker 4>about dogs using sound boards, where you teach a dog

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<v Speaker 4>certain words. You know, you push a little button like

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<v Speaker 4>the little Staples buttons, little red button. You push the

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<v Speaker 4>button and it says a word, and the dog knows

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<v Speaker 4>that that word and that button gets it something, gets it, food,

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<v Speaker 4>gets it, pet get petted, petited, petted, gets it to

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<v Speaker 4>go outside. Gets it's a toy, whatever it is. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean those you can train a dog to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can train a bunch of animals to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But there you see San Diego Comparative Cognition lab, which

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<v Speaker 4>when I go back to school, that's exactly where I'm going,

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<v Speaker 4>shows that dogs that are trained to use these soundboards

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<v Speaker 4>are capable of making two word combinations that go beyond

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<v Speaker 4>what would otherwise be random behavior or a simple imitation

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<v Speaker 4>of what their owners are teaching it. That's that they

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<v Speaker 4>can at least put together two words. Frederico Rozzano is

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<v Speaker 4>an associate professor of cognitive science that you see San

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<v Speaker 4>Diego and said, dogs are pressing buttons purposefully to express

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<v Speaker 4>their desires and needs, for example, words like outside or

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<v Speaker 4>treat or play or potty but I hate that word potty. Notably,

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<v Speaker 4>accommodations like outside and potty or food and water are

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<v Speaker 4>used in meaningful ways that they occur more frequently than

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<v Speaker 4>they would if it was just left up to simple chance.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you hate worse? Potty or tummy?

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<v Speaker 4>I said the word scramby when I was offering to

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<v Speaker 4>make my wife eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you want your eggs?

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<v Speaker 3>You want a little scram maybe?

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<v Speaker 4>She said, never, never say it straight face, angry tone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>never say that again, because it's not sexy. She said,

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't say that, but what she said was low tea,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah exactly. And I said, and then I go, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't tell me not to do something, because then I said,

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<v Speaker 4>would would mommy like scramby eggs for her tummy? And

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<v Speaker 4>then she turned around and left. Yes, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 4>her for three days. For three days, is.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dog still unwrapping presence under the tree?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? No, thankfully?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you do to deter this behavior?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a gate, there's a there's a little gate, so

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<v Speaker 2>he can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the puppy gate, so little Poppy can't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the potty.

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<v Speaker 2>What I.

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<v Speaker 4>Need is to put a train around the bottom of

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<v Speaker 4>my tree so that the train runs them over, like my.

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<v Speaker 3>Child at home.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a child.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a husband who puts a train under the tree.

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<v Speaker 4>But he did he call it a chu chuo? No, no, see,

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<v Speaker 4>you would say, you'd say low tea, and you'd turn

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<v Speaker 4>around and leave. That would be the last words that

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<v Speaker 4>he heard you say.

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<v Speaker 3>See, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the other dog stories that I found also was,

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<v Speaker 4>she's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>There are dogs I wish I could.

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<v Speaker 4>There are dogs that have been captured near the Chernobyl

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear power plant, and they said that they have developed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there have been a couple generations. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 4>Chernobyl was eighty six, right, there have been a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of generations of dogs that have been born since then.

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<v Speaker 4>And the current crop of dogs that exist in that

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<v Speaker 4>Chernobyl exclusion zone are they use the word immune to radiation,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know if they're immune to it, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're at least not as affected by it as other

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<v Speaker 4>organisms would be. So in other words, what they did

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<v Speaker 4>to conduct this study about these dogs, these feral dogs

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<v Speaker 4>that live there is the blood samples were collected during

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<v Speaker 4>vaccination procedures back in twenty eighteen and nineteen, and the

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<v Speaker 4>samples are transported to America where we did DNA extraction

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<v Speaker 4>and analysis, and they said that there were four hundred

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<v Speaker 4>outer outlier low SI genomic locations showed extremely divergent patterns

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<v Speaker 4>from the rest of the genome. Fifty two of those

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<v Speaker 4>genes associated with out the outlier low side that could

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<v Speaker 4>be linked to environmental contamination because of the nuclear power plant,

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<v Speaker 4>and those mutations have been passed down through generations. But

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<v Speaker 4>They said that those mutations are the things that enabled

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<v Speaker 4>these dogs to live in the conditions of the exclusion zones.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the most interesting things they said was that

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<v Speaker 4>they found about ten percent of the DNA of all

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<v Speaker 4>of the dogs they tested, about ten percent of it

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<v Speaker 4>was German shepherd and they don't know if there's they

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's that's just the kind of dog

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<v Speaker 4>that was living in the area, that was predominant in

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<v Speaker 4>the area at the time that this family tree started,

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<v Speaker 4>or if it was something specific about the German shepherd

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<v Speaker 4>DNA that made it more resilient and therefore it was

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<v Speaker 4>the it was the genetic soup that survived.

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<v Speaker 3>Chernobyl genetic soup. Yeah, if you didn't have that on

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<v Speaker 3>your Bengo card, well for this day.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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