Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
Speaker 1: IF I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Okay, we're not doing ailments, okay,
Speaker 1: but my husband this morning says, did you get Gary
Speaker 1: a Christmas present yet? And I said I did, And
Speaker 1: he said, oh, okay, because I was gonna recommend you
Speaker 1: get him that face stuff that I use. And I go,
Speaker 1: you know what I thought about it?
Speaker 2: I said, but that's like.
Speaker 3: Weird, Like I'm not going to get him grooming products,
Speaker 3: like that's odd.
Speaker 4: I actually there's a funny thing. Yes, there is a
Speaker 4: line about what you can buy.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yes, And so then he says it was
Speaker 1: a whole thing. So then he says, well, why don't
Speaker 1: you tell him that it was from me? And then
Speaker 1: it's not weird? And I'm like, that's kind of okay,
Speaker 1: that would weird, that would work. Yes, I was actually
Speaker 1: going to buy a friend. I was going to buy
Speaker 1: a friend some workout shorts that I like that I
Speaker 1: that I've used in there. It's a great brand and
Speaker 1: super comfortable and all that sort of stuff. And as
Speaker 1: I'm going through and I'm ordering a pair of shorts. Uh,
Speaker 1: it says liner or no liner, and I thought that's
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 4: Like I just assumed, like even if it came with
Speaker 4: the liner, which is like the built in boxer short
Speaker 4: kind of thing, our boxer briefs. Basically, if it had
Speaker 4: just come with it, I would have been okay, and
Speaker 4: I would have bought the shorts and been like, I
Speaker 4: really like these shorts and here's you know, I hope
Speaker 4: the right size and if not, very easily don't know.
Speaker 4: Just so it was that decision between liner and no liner.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's too far, because then I have
Speaker 4: to tell them I assume you like either one or
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 1: Thing about your genitals exactly exactly, I gave any thought
Speaker 1: to your genitals, and too far.
Speaker 2: I picked a color.
Speaker 4: I picked the in seam lengthsage also that's the touchy one,
Speaker 4: and then I and then I picked, like, uh, the
Speaker 4: size that I thought was appropriate. But then it asked
Speaker 4: liner or noliner, and I was like, I'm gonna pull
Speaker 4: a plug on that, right.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with like small, medium, large choices, but then
Speaker 1: like if it gets to be like pants, like.
Speaker 2: What's the what's the thirty two, thirty.
Speaker 1: Four or the caller side the next size all that
Speaker 1: that sounds too intimate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just a line, right, it's funny.
Speaker 4: Well, the drones have not not stopped coming, and in fact,
Speaker 4: this is getting this is getting kind of weird. There
Speaker 4: are briefings that are going on, some of them classified,
Speaker 4: some of them not where We've got the FBI, the Coastguard,
Speaker 4: Department of Defense, other you know, New Jersey State Police, etc.
Speaker 4: That are briefing lawmakers on what the hell's going on
Speaker 4: and the sky's over New Jersey and New York. Congressman
Speaker 4: Josh Gotttheimer just this morning held a news conference where
Speaker 4: he said, listen, I don't think this is a big deal,
Speaker 4: but I need to know this is not and I
Speaker 4: need the government to tell me that.
Speaker 5: I want you to know that based on the information,
Speaker 5: the briefings that I've received to date, I'm not concerned
Speaker 5: about any imminent threats to public safety or our national
Speaker 5: security regarding these drones. But and I've made this very
Speaker 5: clear to the FBI, the Homeland Security in the FAA,
Speaker 5: the agency is chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity, they
Speaker 5: must immediately disclose more information to the public. It's totally
Speaker 5: completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going
Speaker 5: on that people are seeing with their own eyes. And
Speaker 5: even if it's not all drone activity, and some of
Speaker 5: it is manned aircraft, there appears to be plenty of
Speaker 5: drone activity that people are seeing with their own eves.
Speaker 5: The fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the
Speaker 5: public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Josh Gotttheimer is a Democrat, and he's going after the
Speaker 4: sitting administration and the agencies that are working for them
Speaker 4: and saying you're not doing enough to assuage the fears
Speaker 4: of the people of the United States.
Speaker 1: Specifically New Jersey. A hobbyist group. Why haven't we heard
Speaker 1: from the hobbyist group? And when are people going to
Speaker 1: start shooting these things? It's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2: Well, there's other we saw.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say hysteria because that it brings
Speaker 4: with it a negative connotation and awareness of things in
Speaker 4: the sky. Think of what happened back when China floated
Speaker 4: that balloon across the continental of the United States. People
Speaker 4: then started seeing more and more balloons, and we saw
Speaker 4: Norads scrambling jets to shoot some balloons out of the
Speaker 4: air because we didn't know what they were doing, and
Speaker 4: we didn't know what they were So in this case,
Speaker 4: I'm highly suspect of what the government is doing right now,
Speaker 4: which is staying incredibly silent about it. It's one thing
Speaker 4: to have the guy at the White House Press Briefing podium,
Speaker 4: John Kirby, for example, come out and say we believe
Speaker 4: it's manned aircraft. Okay, but what is that me? What
Speaker 4: does that mean? Does that mean there is somebody in
Speaker 4: a drone? There are big enough you know that style
Speaker 4: multi propeller.
Speaker 2: Does that make you feel better? Yeah, that's the crime. Okay.
Speaker 4: So you say it's man where is it going and
Speaker 4: what is it doing? Why is it hovering for four
Speaker 4: hours in Bob mcgillicutty's backyard.
Speaker 1: And what are the rules and why haven't the rules
Speaker 1: caught up with the amount of drones out there?
Speaker 4: And if this is this is the other part about
Speaker 4: it that I think is most frightening. One of the
Speaker 4: things that we saw one of the headlines that we've
Speaker 4: seen repeatedly over the last couple of years when it
Speaker 4: comes to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, when Russia
Speaker 4: invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Is the use of drones.
Speaker 4: Not just drones, you know, predator drones that can drop
Speaker 4: our fire missiles, but drones as suicide.
Speaker 2: Vehicles or you know, you arm them with.
Speaker 4: Explosives and you drive that thing into a tank or
Speaker 4: a battalion or whatever. That should be top of mind
Speaker 4: for the people who defend us. Why aren't Where is
Speaker 4: that defense system against drones? Does it only exist in
Speaker 4: those forward operating bases, does it only exist outside of
Speaker 4: the United States? Or do we have the capability here
Speaker 4: to defend if this, if these were from uh evildoers.
Speaker 1: I think it would just be nice to have an
Speaker 1: adult in the room step forward and say, this is
Speaker 1: what we have found. This is where they originated, this
Speaker 1: is where they're coming from. This is you know it
Speaker 1: in the fact that there's no voice, no singular voice.
Speaker 4: Can I give you a voice? Yeah, the voice of
Speaker 4: the person who is currently in charge. And granted, listen,
Speaker 4: if Trump starts sounding like this, I'm gonna play it too.
Speaker 2: But this is pretty bad at the moment, and others
Speaker 2: could do better than I did. I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: was perfect, but ends up at this moment, the best economy,
Speaker 2: strongest economy in the world. He sounds full of life
Speaker 2: and for all Americans.
Speaker 3: Leader, Leader of America, we got a lot to do.
Speaker 1: Can't you do not have a lot to do? Kindly
Speaker 1: step aside, it is time for you to Also, why
Speaker 1: is Nancy Pelosi going to a Battle of the Bulge remembrance?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know she was there for it, but
Speaker 1: what the hell is she doing being shuttled across the world.
Speaker 2: She's eighty four.
Speaker 1: She's now suffered an injury, admitted to a hospital in Luxembourg.
Speaker 1: She pulled a Mitch McConnell. It looks like another person
Speaker 1: who should be retired.
Speaker 4: A statement from her office said, while traveling with a
Speaker 4: bipartisan Congressional delegation speaker Emerita, Nancy Pelosi sustained an injury
Speaker 4: during an official engagement and was admitted to the hospital
Speaker 4: for evaluation.
Speaker 2: But still no work. Did she I mean, she's eighty four.
Speaker 2: Did she fall?
Speaker 4: That seems the most likely kind of an injury for
Speaker 4: someone to It's not like she was arm wrestling somebody
Speaker 4: and snapped her timmy in her Wait a minute, no,
Speaker 4: we're radius and Ulna.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about leg Pelosi's body parts.
Speaker 1: Same thing like I don't want to hear about your
Speaker 1: dry skin patches.
Speaker 4: You asked if I put lotion on. I feel like
Speaker 4: you opened the door. You're gonna have to hear about it.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Kono from the Morning Show broke news to me that
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi trades and people mimicking her trades are a
Speaker 1: thing I had no idea.
Speaker 4: Oh you, yes, absolutely, people make money. People make money
Speaker 4: off of the moves that.
Speaker 2: She has made.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating.
Speaker 4: We will continue and in just a couple of minutes
Speaker 4: the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder, specifically that
Speaker 4: Luigi Guy was not a United Healthcare insurance holder.
Speaker 1: Also, if you want to quit this show, leave now.
Speaker 1: Do not stand on the sidelines and refuse to play.
Speaker 1: Oh if we need a linebacker, we need a linebacker,
Speaker 1: don't suit up if you're not going to go be
Speaker 1: a linebacker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the other thing. Cono said. He's bad
Speaker 4: mouth and the forty nine ers fix true. You team lost, No,
Speaker 4: they didn't lose, they quit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a different a bad look.
Speaker 1: And then I also become that guy who's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you got to catch that.
Speaker 2: How do you not catch that? Like I could catch
Speaker 2: it and you jump.
Speaker 1: Up when you say that you throwing this bottle cap
Speaker 1: to me right here at a slow speed.
Speaker 2: How do you not catch that?
Speaker 3: You sit down? Sit down, ma'am.
Speaker 4: We were talking about the ongoing drone issue over New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Do people sound like paranoid idiots? Get it together?
Speaker 4: It's not that we're paranoid that I think this is Aliens,
Speaker 4: or that it's Iran.
Speaker 2: Or that it's Russia. But to know who it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the part that bothers me is.
Speaker 4: That it's that there's been such a vacuum of information
Speaker 4: when it comes to this kind of thing. This should be,
Speaker 4: I hope a wake up call to federal and state agencies. Hey,
Speaker 4: we need to be able to identify what these things
Speaker 4: are pretty quickly, because if this was something that was nefarious,
Speaker 4: New Jersey would be gone. Because we don't have the
Speaker 4: ability to defend against this.
Speaker 1: The FBI should come out and say, all right, I
Speaker 1: understand that there's unease going on right now, but we
Speaker 1: know exactly who's flying these drones. It's the New Jersey
Speaker 1: Drone Hobbyist Association and they're gearing up for their holiday
Speaker 1: show or whatever. It's the NNGDH or it's a run
Speaker 1: in China together, just tell me, you know the answer.
Speaker 4: Here's what we are going to see, and I think
Speaker 4: this weekend is going to be a key for it.
Speaker 4: You're going to see a lot of people reporting drones everywhere.
Speaker 4: Last night, apparently there were some over Temecula. There's a
Speaker 4: report that there was some mysterious lights moving at extreme
Speaker 4: speeds in the skies over Eugene, Oregon a couple of
Speaker 4: days ago. We're going to see a huge influx of
Speaker 4: mysterious drone sightings over the next couple of days. The
Speaker 4: next step in the Luigi Mangioni case is still trying
Speaker 4: to figure out why he targeted Brian Thompson, the CEO
Speaker 4: at United Healthcare.
Speaker 1: And we now know he was not insured by United Healthcare.
Speaker 1: There's no record that he was ever insured by the company.
Speaker 4: Interesting because Candice Dalan DeLong is a former FBI profiler
Speaker 4: and said that may take away one aspect of motive.
Speaker 4: But as we've been saying, people are looking for a
Speaker 4: hero and feel when the government doesn't have the ability
Speaker 4: to do something, they're going to rely on these vigiliantes
Speaker 4: to do it for it doesn't matter that.
Speaker 6: He wasn't personally injured. He seems to have taken it
Speaker 6: upon himself to be some kind of avenging angel, and
Speaker 6: he has, in what he did, kind of wrapped himself
Speaker 6: in this cloak of righteousness. I am here to protect
Speaker 6: the rest of all of you from evil insurance companies.
Speaker 4: There's an interesting online footprint that this guy had. We
Speaker 4: believe that he was right on Reddit about some of
Speaker 4: the health issues that he was going through. He's twenty again,
Speaker 4: he's twenty six years old, but he was talked about
Speaker 4: changing his diet because of irtable ball syndrome, battling his
Speaker 4: chronic back pain, restless sleep, he said in twenty three,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, posted about how the back pain came
Speaker 4: after a vertebrae had split slipped. Sorry, and he wrote
Speaker 4: online he said, when my spondee went bad on me
Speaker 4: last year, remember spond spond low life thesis. He said,
Speaker 4: it was completely devastating as a young athletic person. Seemingly
Speaker 4: all I could read on the internet was that I
Speaker 4: was just destined to chronic pain in a desk job.
Speaker 4: And he said that representation was terrifying, inaccurate, and completely
Speaker 4: destroyed me until I realized the silent majority of fusion
Speaker 4: spinal fusions are highly successful. I mean, this is a
Speaker 4: guy who was I could not say that at the
Speaker 4: age of twenty five or twenty six, I had anywhere
Speaker 4: near as much medical knowledge as this guy did about
Speaker 4: my own well, he.
Speaker 1: Was very intelligent, is very intelligent. We've seen that throughout
Speaker 1: his entire life, like the most intelligent kid at his
Speaker 1: very high profile schools.
Speaker 2: There just had to have been.
Speaker 1: I just keep going back to this because it seems
Speaker 1: like it's the Oulkham Schraser and it's that there's something
Speaker 1: that happens sometimes with young men in particular when they
Speaker 1: are in their early twenties psychologically, and it causes a
Speaker 1: psychotic break.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if.
Speaker 4: If he is taking We don't know much about his medications, obviously,
Speaker 4: but he's in chronic pain.
Speaker 2: He's talked about that.
Speaker 1: He said that he's not on any take killers. That's weird, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be weird. Florida woman has been arrested in
Speaker 1: charge please say she ended a phone call with her
Speaker 1: health insurance provider with threats mimicking the wording associated with
Speaker 1: this shooter. Now she's forty two. Her name's Breonna Boston.
Speaker 1: She was speaking with someone from Blue Cross and she
Speaker 1: was told that her medical claim was denied. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of the recorded conversation and she can
Speaker 1: be heard saying delay denied.
Speaker 3: Depose you people are next.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Arrested for that.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that she chose the words that he wrote
Speaker 4: on the bullet casings, which was actually different than the
Speaker 4: book title. All about the insurance company and how they
Speaker 4: deny claims all the time. Yeah, this guy, this Luigi Mangioni,
Speaker 4: by the way, may have been identified by San Francisco
Speaker 4: police four days before he was arrested.
Speaker 1: Well, remember he was declared missing from his mom to
Speaker 1: San Francisco police months ago because she thought that I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it was in November. It was mid November, I
Speaker 1: believe when she contacted SFPD and said my son's missing.
Speaker 1: She believed him to be in San Francisco. There was
Speaker 1: a report out that she hadn't talked to him since July.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it would make sense if he was reported
Speaker 1: missing by his mom. It's a rich, high profile family.
Speaker 1: It's going to get attention, so they probably had an
Speaker 1: id on him.
Speaker 4: The San Francisco Chronicle says an SFPD officer tipped off
Speaker 4: the FBI after they recognized those surveillance images that were
Speaker 4: put out by the NYPD, which of course they would
Speaker 4: because hey, they're looking for the guy too. He was reported,
Speaker 4: Like you said, November eighteenth was the date that mom
Speaker 4: mom reported him.
Speaker 2: So oh.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the FBI, just a quick headline the new
Speaker 4: report that came out yesterday. The FBI did not have
Speaker 4: any undercover agents in the crowd in the January sixth
Speaker 4: fiasco at the Capitol, but the Justice Department's Inspector General
Speaker 4: is a big butt said that they had more than
Speaker 4: two dozen informants in the crowd that day. Some of
Speaker 4: them were instructed to go there, but many of them
Speaker 4: just went on their own. Three of the informants, referred
Speaker 4: to as confidential human sources, were specifically tasked by the
Speaker 4: FBI Field Office to go to DC to report on
Speaker 4: domestic terrorism case subjects that they had been investigating. And
Speaker 4: by the way, a special Holly the edition of Have
Speaker 4: you Ever Met This Person before? That's a news feature.
Speaker 4: I guess we're going to start today or something like that. Really, yeah,
Speaker 4: I listened to the that's the voice of Russ Taff
Speaker 4: and he is the lead singer of the Imperials, or
Speaker 4: at least he was when they recorded this.
Speaker 2: I listened to the and he is going to join
Speaker 2: us later in the show.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I guess it's not that
Speaker 1: big of a coincidence. But I was listening to just
Speaker 1: my Spotify Starred playlist or whatever, and that came on
Speaker 1: when I got in the car this morning. It was
Speaker 1: the first song, but that popped up, and then I
Speaker 1: got here and you said, we're interviewing him today.
Speaker 2: Of course that's how it works.
Speaker 3: Wild.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not that one.
Speaker 3: It's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: It is pretty good.
Speaker 4: College football's bowl season starts tomorrow after Army Navy or
Speaker 4: there is the annual Army Navy Game tomorrow, but also
Speaker 4: the Jackson State Tigers in South Carolina State Bulldog in
Speaker 4: the Cricket Celebration Bowl tomorrow, and the is fourst Salute
Speaker 4: to Veterans bull between the South Alabama Jaguars and the
Speaker 4: Western Michigan Broncos.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not the arc of the Covenant, but this
Speaker 1: story in the La Times comes straight out of an
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones esque type of movie, right, But it's real
Speaker 1: life and it's hard to believe that this many people
Speaker 1: and this many lives were caught up with this weird
Speaker 1: cursed emerald heavy, also very heavy.
Speaker 2: It's emerald.
Speaker 3: It's from Brazil.
Speaker 1: It's called the Bahea Emerald, and it talks about this guy,
Speaker 1: this lawyer here in La John Natalenko, who opened up
Speaker 1: a letter about ten years ago. It was allegedly from
Speaker 1: Brazil and it was a Brazilian government person that wanted
Speaker 1: his help to retrieve a stolen eight hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: six pound emerald.
Speaker 2: He said this was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: It was the height of the Niget jury and Prince scam,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3: And he just throws it away. I'm a fallen for this.
Speaker 1: But then his boss says, could you look into this
Speaker 1: to find this Bahea Emerald?
Speaker 3: So he's like, okay.
Speaker 1: He reaches out to a colleague in his office in Brazil.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a big network of PI firms or
Speaker 1: what have you, and he learns that the Bahea Emerald
Speaker 1: is real and that the Brazilian government was seriously asking
Speaker 1: him to help track it down in California.
Speaker 2: But I mean trying to trace the lineage.
Speaker 4: Of this the provenance of this Bahi emerald is crazy
Speaker 4: because it starts back in two thousand and one. A
Speaker 4: couple guys from northern California. We're in some financial dire
Speaker 4: straits because of a failing tech startup that they got,
Speaker 4: So they were going to go and basically buy emeralds
Speaker 4: down in Brazil and bring them back to the United
Speaker 4: States and try to make a profit on them to
Speaker 4: save this failing investment that they had made.
Speaker 1: They were going to use the emeralds as collateral on
Speaker 1: a loan to save the startup.
Speaker 3: I had never heard of that being done.
Speaker 4: So they secured twenty five million dollars, or they would
Speaker 4: secure twenty five million dollars worth of small, cut and
Speaker 4: polished emeralds from a couple of guys, and they would
Speaker 4: use the stones as collateral, like you said, to participate
Speaker 4: in the investment program. They was going to make quick money.
Speaker 4: They were going to just cash out and everything was
Speaker 4: going to be fine. But no one from their group
Speaker 4: was able to assemble a loan that would be used
Speaker 4: to buy the cut emeralds in the first place.
Speaker 1: But during the trip, the two guys in Brazil who
Speaker 1: had actually plucked this thing from a mine in there
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, decided to take the Americans
Speaker 1: to show them this Bahea emerald. Remember, they were going
Speaker 1: to look for smaller emeralds, and there said, well look
Speaker 1: at this one. A month later, one of the guys
Speaker 1: from northern California wires one of the guys from Brazil
Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a fee that he said was used
Speaker 1: to purchase the Bahea emeralds, But in court documents they lied.
Speaker 1: They said this was used to cover the cost of
Speaker 1: cutting and polishing a collection of emeralds that they had
Speaker 1: gathered for this loan. In the meantime, the Bahea emerald
Speaker 1: mysteriously disappears in transit to California. They think it was
Speaker 1: someone in the Brazilian government to blame, so they never
Speaker 1: file a theft report. Of course, they never file a
Speaker 1: theft report because this is all under the table.
Speaker 3: Shenanigans now.
Speaker 4: And the guy, when he was asked about where the
Speaker 4: bill of sale was, did you guys keep the receipt
Speaker 4: on this thing? He say, oh, yeah, well actually I
Speaker 4: mean I did keep the receipt, but it burned up
Speaker 4: when my house burned down in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: So a judge gets involved.
Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, a judge in La County and said
Speaker 4: that that guy's testimony was like sand in the wind,
Speaker 4: constantly shifting and changing its shape.
Speaker 1: Well, the guy that he went with to Brazil, the
Speaker 1: other guy from northern California, those two the fall of
Speaker 1: their business, had a falling out themselves. Apparently it was
Speaker 1: his business partner turned rival that ended up possessing the emeralds.
Speaker 1: That guy sent the stone from Northern California to a
Speaker 1: storage facility in New Orleans where it happened to become
Speaker 1: submerged for weeks after Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 4: So so what they're going to do is they they're
Speaker 4: going to sell this whole thing. If a guy's going
Speaker 4: to say, you know what, let's cut our losses. Just
Speaker 4: sell this whole, this eight hundred and thirty six pound
Speaker 4: block that has a bunch of emeralds in it and
Speaker 4: will cash out. So they enlist a couple guys, Larry
Speaker 4: and Jerry one Larry the plumber, Jerry the gem dealer.
Speaker 2: You can't make this up. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4: So they ship the stone back to San Jose try
Speaker 4: to get a buyer.
Speaker 2: They can't, and.
Speaker 1: Then Larry the Plumber says to Jerry the gem dealer
Speaker 1: that he was kidnapped by Brazilian warlords asked him to
Speaker 1: send ransom money. So it was the gem dealer, Jerry,
Speaker 1: who decided to take over efforts to sell the stone
Speaker 1: because the Plumber had gone off the deep end.
Speaker 4: Jerry sells the stone, transports it to a storage facility
Speaker 4: in al Monty, couldn't or wanted to sell it, couldn't
Speaker 4: find a buyer, but uses it as collateral for some
Speaker 4: other gem deals that he's been doing. That deal falls
Speaker 4: through the other one that he was using this collateral for.
Speaker 2: He moves the stone to Vegas.
Speaker 4: Now not happy about the disappearance of the Emerald, the
Speaker 4: guy actually reported it stolen, Larry Larry the Plumber reported
Speaker 4: it stolen from el Monty. So the La County Sheriff's
Speaker 4: Department gets involved. And I can't imagine what that call
Speaker 4: was like for these guys who were like, Okay, now
Speaker 4: what wait, where did it come from?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 4: You just said it was in Hurricane Katrina. It goes
Speaker 4: from there to Idaho, It goes from Idaho to Vegas.
Speaker 1: My favorite part is when the detectives from the La
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's department go to Idaho where they basically threatened
Speaker 1: to unwrap every present underneath the Christmas tree and the
Speaker 1: home where the gem is supposed to be to look
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 4: To look for it. Now, a judge finally gets involved.
Speaker 4: They find it in Vegas, they bring it back to
Speaker 4: it's an evidence now here in La County. The judge
Speaker 4: decides after all of this, it still belongs to the
Speaker 4: government of Brazil, and basically what it is is that
Speaker 4: if there's no appeal, they're going to do a full
Speaker 4: repatriation ceremony for this eight hundred and thirty six pound
Speaker 4: emerald back to Brazil.
Speaker 1: But the stone, when smuggled here back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, came with it. All of these crazy stories, right,
Speaker 1: some are fact, some are fiction. There's the guy from
Speaker 1: northern California who swore his house burned to the ground.
Speaker 3: There was the.
Speaker 1: Startup guys who lost it to the flooding of the hurricane.
Speaker 1: There was the plumber that I aimed he was kidnapped
Speaker 1: by Brazilian war lords. So there's all this talk about
Speaker 1: it being a cursed gem. I think the people involved
Speaker 1: with the gem and acquiring the gem were just a
Speaker 1: bunch of liars and charlatans, and that's where these stories
Speaker 1: came from. However, the detective right the PI that was
Speaker 1: contacted by the Brazilian government says, I'd love to see
Speaker 1: it in person, but there's a small part of me
Speaker 1: that may just throw salt over my left shoulder, keep
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed behind my back.
Speaker 2: Stay away.
Speaker 4: I have always dreamed about a dog that could speak
Speaker 4: and understand what I tell it.
Speaker 6: Speak Hi there?
Speaker 2: Did that dog just say Hi there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, my name is Doug. I have just met you,
Speaker 2: and I love you. My master made me his collar.
Speaker 4: He is a coded smart master, and he made me
Speaker 4: his collar so that I may talk squirrel.
Speaker 2: And you may have seen the videos.
Speaker 4: There have been plenty of them, even small documentaries made
Speaker 4: about dogs using sound boards, where you teach a dog
Speaker 4: certain words. You know, you push a little button like
Speaker 4: the little Staples buttons, little red button. You push the
Speaker 4: button and it says a word, and the dog knows
Speaker 4: that that word and that button gets it something, gets it, food,
Speaker 4: gets it, pet get petted, petited, petted, gets it to
Speaker 4: go outside. Gets it's a toy, whatever it is. But
Speaker 4: I mean those you can train a dog to do that.
Speaker 4: You can train a bunch of animals to do that.
Speaker 4: But there you see San Diego Comparative Cognition lab, which
Speaker 4: when I go back to school, that's exactly where I'm going,
Speaker 4: shows that dogs that are trained to use these soundboards
Speaker 4: are capable of making two word combinations that go beyond
Speaker 4: what would otherwise be random behavior or a simple imitation
Speaker 4: of what their owners are teaching it. That's that they
Speaker 4: can at least put together two words. Frederico Rozzano is
Speaker 4: an associate professor of cognitive science that you see San
Speaker 4: Diego and said, dogs are pressing buttons purposefully to express
Speaker 4: their desires and needs, for example, words like outside or
Speaker 4: treat or play or potty but I hate that word potty. Notably,
Speaker 4: accommodations like outside and potty or food and water are
Speaker 4: used in meaningful ways that they occur more frequently than
Speaker 4: they would if it was just left up to simple chance.
Speaker 3: What do you hate worse? Potty or tummy?
Speaker 4: I said the word scramby when I was offering to
Speaker 4: make my wife eggs.
Speaker 2: How do you want your eggs?
Speaker 3: You want a little scram maybe?
Speaker 4: She said, never, never say it straight face, angry tone. Yeah,
Speaker 4: never say that again, because it's not sexy. She said,
Speaker 4: she didn't say that, but what she said was low tea,
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. And I said, and then I go, you
Speaker 4: can't tell me not to do something, because then I said,
Speaker 4: would would mommy like scramby eggs for her tummy? And
Speaker 4: then she turned around and left. Yes, I haven't seen
Speaker 4: her for three days. For three days, is.
Speaker 1: Your dog still unwrapping presence under the tree?
Speaker 2: Uh? No, thankfully?
Speaker 3: What did you do to deter this behavior?
Speaker 2: There's a gate, there's a there's a little gate, so
Speaker 2: he can't.
Speaker 1: Get the puppy gate, so little Poppy can't go to
Speaker 1: the potty.
Speaker 2: What I.
Speaker 4: Need is to put a train around the bottom of
Speaker 4: my tree so that the train runs them over, like my.
Speaker 3: Child at home.
Speaker 2: You don't have a child.
Speaker 3: You have a husband who puts a train under the tree.
Speaker 4: But he did he call it a chu chuo? No, no, see,
Speaker 4: you would say, you'd say low tea, and you'd turn
Speaker 4: around and leave. That would be the last words that
Speaker 4: he heard you say.
Speaker 3: See, that's great.
Speaker 4: One of the other dog stories that I found also was,
Speaker 4: she's so funny.
Speaker 2: There are dogs I wish I could.
Speaker 4: There are dogs that have been captured near the Chernobyl
Speaker 4: nuclear power plant, and they said that they have developed.
Speaker 4: I mean there have been a couple generations. Obviously, the
Speaker 4: Chernobyl was eighty six, right, there have been a couple
Speaker 4: of generations of dogs that have been born since then.
Speaker 4: And the current crop of dogs that exist in that
Speaker 4: Chernobyl exclusion zone are they use the word immune to radiation,
Speaker 4: but I don't know if they're immune to it, but
Speaker 4: they're at least not as affected by it as other
Speaker 4: organisms would be. So in other words, what they did
Speaker 4: to conduct this study about these dogs, these feral dogs
Speaker 4: that live there is the blood samples were collected during
Speaker 4: vaccination procedures back in twenty eighteen and nineteen, and the
Speaker 4: samples are transported to America where we did DNA extraction
Speaker 4: and analysis, and they said that there were four hundred
Speaker 4: outer outlier low SI genomic locations showed extremely divergent patterns
Speaker 4: from the rest of the genome. Fifty two of those
Speaker 4: genes associated with out the outlier low side that could
Speaker 4: be linked to environmental contamination because of the nuclear power plant,
Speaker 4: and those mutations have been passed down through generations. But
Speaker 4: They said that those mutations are the things that enabled
Speaker 4: these dogs to live in the conditions of the exclusion zones.
Speaker 4: One of the most interesting things they said was that
Speaker 4: they found about ten percent of the DNA of all
Speaker 4: of the dogs they tested, about ten percent of it
Speaker 4: was German shepherd and they don't know if there's they
Speaker 4: don't know if it's that's just the kind of dog
Speaker 4: that was living in the area, that was predominant in
Speaker 4: the area at the time that this family tree started,
Speaker 4: or if it was something specific about the German shepherd
Speaker 4: DNA that made it more resilient and therefore it was
Speaker 4: the it was the genetic soup that survived.
Speaker 3: Chernobyl genetic soup. Yeah, if you didn't have that on
Speaker 3: your Bengo card, well for this day.
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