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Gonna close out the show with hoops Talk. Gotta talk
about a big time matchup, Top twenty five, Top fifteen
matchup tomorrow BYU Traveling. I believe right now, as we
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look this is gonna be loud, rambunctious. But look that's
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Protective Films Dot Calm. Without further ado, Let's get out
to the hotline and welcome in our wonderful guest to
close out the show with us. Is gonna be a
great segment. He is radio co host of the pre
and post game for Kansas Basketball. We have Sean Kellerman
on the line. Sean, how are you going today?
Speaker 1: What's up? Ron? Doing great? Man? How are you hey?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I have to ask this first one.
Get out the way. Kind of a funny one, you know.
I saw Kellerman the last name. I'm like, is there
any relation to you know, Max Kellerman? I have to
get it out of the way. You probably have gotten
out your whole life.
Speaker 1: I've gotten it. Yeah, ever since Max got big on
ESPN and all of his escapade, No no relation at all.
I thought it was so interesting when I first saw him,
because I come from a big family. But I actually
don't see a lot of keller men, so no relation.
So I guess I gotta got a home my own road.
Speaker 2: Here Hey, you're holding it down, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Us.
Speaker 2: Sean, just give us a little bit of background what
you do, where you do it at I think this
is the first time we had you on the program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So, like you said, I am the host
of the pre and post game show for the Jayhawk
Radio Network. I'm in my eighth year doing that. Also
do postgame on the network for KU football. We do
the Crimson a Blue Show and the Jayhawk Locker Room
Show with One's pre One's Post and basically are on
thirty plus stations across the state of Kansas and of
course online as well, So we're the place to go
for all the pre game post game coverage and we
go on essentially before the game broadcast and come on
again after and then I also host a sports talk
show during the week called Rock Chalk Sports at Kansas Nation.
Kansas Nation is a studio that we have downtown Massachusetts
Street and Lawrence. That's kind of the big downtown place
to be in Lawrence's Massachusetts Street. So got a nice
studio down there, and yeah, host our show for Kansas Nation.
But yeah, separately game day coverage Jayhawk Radio Network and
it's been a blast man.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of hats that you wear, and
you do a phenomenal job. I was obviously when I
talked to you this morning about what we would discuss
and looked up. I was like, man, I was like,
this dude is phenomenals, Like how have we missed having
them on? Especially with that last name Kellerman? No doubt
before I know this is a basketball segment, but I
do need to ask you again us about football too,
because why football runs the ship at every you know program,
unless as Arizona football drives the ship, the basketball drive
the ship there excuse me, but just thoughts on you know,
a lands light pole. The Kansas Jayhawks b yu's zero
and two against them in in football botwo and oh
and basketball? So far Jayalen Daniels leaves the program, but
you pick up a nice pick up and Dylan Edwards
in the offseason, I like his game from Kansas State.
What do you what do you feel like? Uh Kansas
takes in football going into the offseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how strange is that? First off? The two and
oh BYU is against Kansas and basketball and oh and
two in football. You wouldn't have you wouldn't have guessed
that right since never BYU joined the conference. So yeah,
that's kind of how it's gone. But you know, the
last two seasons of KU football have been have been disappointing.
I would say it's fair to say that five and
seven both years and disappointing because I mean, you know,
everybody knows where Kansas football was from about two thousand
and eight until twenty twenty. We had season where we
didn't win any games, and it was it was down
in the dumps. You hired light Pole than twenty twenty one,
and then he really brought the program up from the dead.
I mean, it was the bottom program in terms of
power conferences, and you won six games, went to the
Liberty Bowl in twenty two, you won nine games, You
won the Rate Bowl at Chase Field in twenty three,
and then you had Jaylen Daniels coming back for twenty
four and you were thinking, all right, this is the
last year a JD. And he was rusty the first half,
didn't play well the second half. So then he got
another year of him in twenty five, and he was
great the first half and then didn't play well the
second half. So he had like a thirteen game stretch
where he was as good as any quarterback in KU history,
but it was across two seasons and Kansas just didn't
get consistent play. You pair that with losing so many
close games, blowing so many fourth quarter leads, and it
led to back to back five and seven seasons. But
this upcoming season, like you said, it'll be the first
time since Leipold got here that there's a quarterback battle.
Isaiah Marshall I think is going to eventually win that.
He is a guy who's going to be third year
in the program, a dual threat, kind of can do
a little bit of everything, but he'll be a little
raw still with not having as much game talent. And
you mentioned Edwards. I mean, he came over from k
State and they hate us, so that was kind of
funny for us. He's the type of scatback that we needed.
The big story for Kansas football heading into this upcoming season,
Ron is we are bringing back our offensive coordinator from
those two bowl seasons that I mentioned, Andy cotal Nicky
is coming back as the associate head coach. He spent
the last two seasons as Penn State's offensive coordinator. So
we're keeping our offensive coordinator. But We're bringing Cotl Nicky
back as the associate head coach, and I think having
the dual threat QB that I think again, Marshall will
win that job. With Edwards who comes over from k
State and some other nice pieces, there's reason for hope
for sure. And we got a new stadium that's going
to be finalized at the end of twenty twenty six.
I think there's a decent amount of pressure to win
this upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what the jay Awks have a love Lance,
light pull, what he brings in height runs his program.
It's been fun to watch Jalen Daniels, Andy col and Nikky.
Like you said, I'm excited to see what he does.
And look, I know Kansas State hates you, but look
things that went wrong and that's how it goes. We
all know all about eight over here. It would by
U and Utah, so I trust me. I know about
those in state Robert games for Trum'm excited for that
new stadium as well, So this is gonna be a
fun time. Bau will travel to Lawrence in November. I
don't like that that matchup's late. I won't lie to you, Sean.
That might be the one that could help boy you
out of the big to championship. We'll see, because it's
hard to win in Kansas. It's hard to win in Kansas.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah it is. It is no doubt about it.
And uh and yeah, we're actually going. We got a
London game, the first game ever played at Wembley Stadium
September nineteenth, ku Arizona State. We're kind of forfeiting a
home game for that, which is gonna make it four
home games and or five home games whatever it is,
forfeiting one to go play the first ever game against
Arizona State because the stadium is gonna be half under
construction and it's a quasi rebuilding year. They say, but
but that'll be a good experien answer the guys, it
will be.
Speaker 2: That's you can't be taking those international trips, especially as
a team. Got to enjoy those. Well, let's get to
what everybody wants to hear. The premiere matchup, the projected
number one, number two pick, going at it number thirteen
BYU number fourteen Kansas tomorrow. Just your overall thoughts on
this game. It was announced earlier yesterday. I believe Darren
Peterson will play. Bill self confirmed that I'm excited for that.
I didn't there was no doubt in my mind or
I don't think yours anybody else that Darren would miss
this matchup at all.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I mean, you know, I think he could
have played at k State when KU won there on Saturday,
but I thought it was interesting and maybe a semi
flex to Casey postgame when coach said, oh, yeah, he'll play,
as we didn't need him today necessarily, but he's gonna
want to play. I mean, it's just there have been
games that Darren's missed, and you know, there's a lot
that's gone into that, and it's been tough for kau
fans honestly. I mean, you know how fan bases get.
I mean people say, oh, you collecting the nils and
all that. He legitimately has had leg issues, whether it
was a hamstring or cramping and that sort of thing,
and it just hasn't been a one hundred percent situation.
And I think you know, a couple of weeks ago
he was getting close to one hundred percent and then
rolled his ankle at Colorado. Did finish that game, but
you knew with the fact that Kansas bye week coming,
you know, happened to be in between k State and BYU.
It's like, Kay, only one game in the next ten days,
Let's see if we can rest up VP and see
if he can go. So I'm not saying he's going
to be one hundred percent, but I think he'll be
as close to it as he's been. We haven't heard
much from the leg side of things. I assume that's
subsided the past month or so, so that's been big.
I'll say this regarding Kay. You you know, with Peterson
being in out of the lineup, it's been pretty choppy
for Kansas until the Iowa State game. KYU lost to
West Virginia. They were sitting at eleven and five, one
and two in Big twelve play. You lose to West Virginia,
who you know at that time your thing. It was
a bottom feed or all of a sudden, you look
and they're five and three, but you lose to West
Virginia and you're like, man, this is not right. We're
falling out of the rankings. And now we got number
two Iowa State coming in. I don't know what changed,
but Iowa State came in and k you just put
it on them and it was the first time with
DP out there that KU really was showing aggressiveness from
all spots. With Peterson in and out of the lineup.
There had been times where Kansas looked better without him
because the guys had just so many more reps without him,
And then when he came back, it was a lot
of ball watching kind of stagnant because there was a
lot of all, right, let's just stand in the corner
and watch DP go to work. Something clicked to where
the guys started being aggressive when DP was out there,
and DP was aggressive, and all of a sudden, the
guys were kind of jelling, and now we saw, even
though DP didn't play against k State, it looked like
a team that's kind of found its rhythm. So K's
rolled off four straight after the State game. It hasn't
been the most difficult stretch, but they needed to win
those four games to kind of get back in the conversation.
And again, most importantly is it seems like the guys
are gelling more whether Peterson is out there or not,
which is a really big story around here. While he
was in and out during.
Speaker 2: Most of the non con Look, those four games are valuable.
You beat a top ten opponent at home. I know
it was on the road for them, but that's difficult.
You beat them by twenty, then you have to play Baylor,
a top quad one team. You beat them, and then
you gotta go on the road. We know how difficult
it is to win in the Big twelve. You get
a Colorado team and then you get a Kansas State team.
Both of those places aren't easy to play. So I mean,
I look at that schedule. People could say not formidable,
but to me, that's tough regardless. But that leads me
to my next question. This team Elite eight team, you know,
where do you see the ceiling? Obviously you need a
player like Darren Petison to compete for a national championship,
but you just mentioned it. At times when he's not
in the gam or on the floor, they look better
at times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have, And I think that that's going to
eventually not be true because I think, assuming DP is
going to be healthy, you know people, I mean people
around here again, like I said, you know how fans
get I mean, they get salty and they get tried
full about their program and you know, oh, you know
they want him to be tiring enough about Kansas to
play out there no matter what he does. It's not that,
it's just, you know, everything's better when you're winning, and
everything's worse when you're losing, and when you're losing, all
of a sudden, it feels like the wheels are falling off.
This guy doesn't want to play here. Do the guys
even like each other? There hasn't been any of that.
But I think with a healthy Peterson out there, I
think Kansas could get to the Final four. And I
know that's saying a lot, but what's changed compared to
the last couple of years which have been I can't
even overstay this incredibly disappointing from a kau basketball standpoint.
You're a four seed and a seven seed. Kansas had
never been lower than a four before getting a seven
last year, so people were hungry for a roster turnover.
The difference is they've gotten these other guys in who
they've hit on in the transfer portal, primarily Melvin Council
and Trey White. Melvin Council is the heartbeat of this team.
I mean, he's unbelievably fast. He plays, you know, with
that dog type energy that you'll see a lot. And
then Trey White he's having the best year of his career.
I mean, he's shooting upwards of forty percent from three.
He's only six six probably, but he's got five double doubles,
and he's not afraid to be in there with the trees.
It seems like every other game he's got a bloody
nose in there. And they're just kind of embracing the
Kansas culture and the toughness that coach self has always
wanted and has always had so much success for. So
I do think Final four could be a ceiling for
this team. A lot has to come together, and I
honestly think, even though we don't like talking until he
gets closer to March about seating, my big thing is
you got to get up to that three line if
you can, because Kansas is being on the four or five.
I mean, you know how the tournament is. You got
four to five. I mean your first game is hard,
and then your second game is against a four or five,
and then your next games against the one. Like, you
don't want that, so you want to try to get
up to the two three line. And as hard as
Kansas schedule is moving forward and a lot of big
twelve teams, it also is an opportunity to do that
and continue to build your resume. So so we'll see.
But if everybody's able to stay healthy, I love what
I've seen in the last couple of weeks in terms
of a ceiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned obviously the schedule and everything. Let's go
back a little bit that I always state game he said,
Trey white Man. Was he a special in that game?
Nineteen points, those ten rebounds, like you said, one of
those double doubles leading obviously Kansas in that game. And
look that dude gets hot. He's scary. I was watching
him a shoot. I was like, if look, you go
back to Iowa State last year, when you think of
the guys that they had, I'm forgetting the guy that
was lighting up from from tre Yeah Curtis Jones, Yeah exactly,
you just took it. He reminds me of that. Like
when he gets going, he's a problem, and like Frank
Freschil says, you better stop him because if you don't,
he's gonna punish you a lot. And look, it's not
just offensively like you mentioned, he will go in there
and being a guy that sixty five sixty six, bang
down on and grab boards, which look this big, The
Big twelve conference is so talent. From your standpoint, what
do you observe because you just said schedule right, you're
gonna play BYU. Do you go on the road to
play number eleven Texas Tech, and then you know, dischedule
the rest of all. You got Iowa State again, Houston
at home, you go on the road to number one Arizona.
Is this this conference is a lead from top to bottom.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's brutal. And I know Arizona's got a tough
schedule this stretch too. They got to play you guys twice.
They got to play us twice. And it's nice being
a good program like KU and BY you have because
then you can you can have that mindset of yeah,
we have to play these teams, but they got to
play us, right. But that's the situation this next month,
and that's why those last four games that we talked
about were so important for k You just kind of
getting back to where they need to be at five
and two, a respectable conference record at this point. But yeah,
it's kind of the one game at a time mentality
and knowing that it's not going to be fun when
Arizona comes to town, or when Houston comes to town
and Lubbock's become one of the tougher places to play
in the conference, and that'll be a quick turnaround for
KU also. But you know one other thing I want
to point out about the roster. You mentioned White, and
he really has been a dog and these guys in
the portal, because you look Kansas the last couple of years,
I mean, they missed on aj Store that didn't work out,
Ryley Griffin didn't work out, Nick Kimberlake the year before
that didn't work out. They've had some misses, but Counsel
and White, those are the guys who have really, like
I said, embraced the culture. And the other thing that
makes Kansas ceiling getting to the final four, in my
opinion is Florie Badunga, who's a guy who remember he
went into the transfer portal briefly and Kyu essentially had
to get him back. He's a sophomore. The whole chatter
around here in the offseason, Ron was the one two
punch of Darren Peterson and Florida Badunga and how the
non kink kind of went on and Kansas did have
some great moments and won all three games in Vegas,
the players there and all that. The non kink kind
of went on as you had the DP saga where
he was in and out of the lineup and Flori
was okay, had some good moments, but it was a
lot of Melvin Counsel Trey White grinding out up these
wins and a lot of good things in that. But
the last couple of weeks you've still had Counsel in White.
But then you've got DP, who's just an incredibly special talent,
and we've seen that at times, and then all of
a sudden, Flory's coming about. He had twenty one to
ten against K State. He doesn't not have the whitest body,
but he's very bouncy and he's a great rim protector.
Now this stat isn't taking into account Wilts because it
goes back to seventy four to seventy five, but Flory
was the quickest to one hundred blocks in KU history
since that was supported. And he also has shown the
ability the last couple games to guard one through five.
I mean PJ. Haggerty couldn't get by him K State.
I mean he had that kind of ability to keep
PJ down and not allow him anything easy, and then
when they do shoot, he's able to protect the rim.
So that's going to be big, I think, especially tomorrow
against BYU, because you guys got a lot of dudes,
and certainly Rob Wright was our absolute nightmare in Waco
last year. Oh they remember second half? Yeah, I'm sure,
I'm sure and we remember too. We had had a
lot of games that we want to forget in recent years,
but he was a nightmare. But again, you know, we're
gonna switch a lot. We have the guys. I'm hoping
for a big game from Bryce and Tiller because he's
really talented, raw freshman that'll start at the four, but
you know, not quite as quick twitch as some of
those other guys. But the ability to switch four or
five is big. And Flory the Dune got is a
big reason why Kansas can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at Floria obviously, the sixteen, two hundred
and thirty five pounder. Look their big by is gonna
go big. Is gonna be a great matchup? Is that
the guy to guard aj? Look, I know everybody's gonna
be like, all right, a j and Darren go out
of which they guarded each other in high school. The
last time they matched up, I think Darren dropped fifty
eight the buzzer beater in ajad forty nine. That's not
happening tomorrow. I don't think guys are gonna go one
on one, and if you do, I think you're gonna
lose the game. I don't think you can buy into
the NBA narrative of let them go out, of you
have to play team basketball. But it is Floria that
guy to to take aj you know, to to start
the game, just with how athletic he is in that
size and like you said, coming off with twenty one
and performance.
Speaker 1: My gut would say yes. But I'm worried about all
your guys because because Caba Cada is a load, I mean,
he kind of reminds me around these parts of kJ Adams,
who I know, you guys respond, but Cave is even bigger,
a better imp protector, and even stronger than kJ, who
is just a freak athlete in his own right. But
I could see just from a quickness standpoint, Flory being
matched up initially with aj and then BT, who usually
plays the four, would be matched up with with Cada,
and again Tiller potentially getting in foul trouble would be
a concern because we don't go we don't go deeper.
I mean, Trey White kind of plays the four at
times and he's, like I said, only six six, So
that's gonna be a big is a big deal is
can Kansas too big stay out of foul trouble? And
and they do have the ability to switch, Like obviously
if if A's got the ball and Kansas is switching,
you know, Council is a really good defender. And then
DP obviously has links as well. But yeah, I mean,
I'm it's not just the big three that you look
at that that's Scario with aj and and Saunders, and
right it's Jones hit five threes or Davis rather hit
five threes. And then you know Cad I already mentioned
is averaging nearly two blocks a game. But but Saunders
has given me some nightmares too, so I'm interested to
see if Kansas can can keep him off the line.
The other thing that you know, as you know, is
a rarity is by us beating Kansas the last two
years and and our trip, our our beautiful trip to
Provo and Salt Lake City last year was about as
as rock bottom as this program has been since Coach
Selt has been here, not just because you guys got
us by thirty four, but then we went to Utah
and lost. I mean, and you can imagine how how
people here are feeling about Kansas basketball listening to Utah.
I mean, I don't want to be disrespectful, but what
are we doing, guys? So so it was definitely a
trying trip. But I know there was some some interesting
locker rooms after that, and Kay, you never could quite
figure it out. But but yeah, I think there may
be a little bit of revenge factor. But at the
end of the day, it'll be all that in the
pomp and circumstances of game day. It'll be one in
between the lines and and it should be an awesome game.
Speaker 2: It should be, like I said, students already camping, I
was gonna be loud, raucous. I mean, that's the environments
you want to play. And if you're Darren Peterson, you
got the home crowd this time. But going on the
road in AJ as well as definitely gonna be a game,
no doubt. Yeah that I had never seen Bill self,
and I mean you probably saw it. He cost two
timeouts in the first like six minutes, and he after
the second one, he put his hands behind his head
and lean back and said, Yep, it's gonna be I'm like,
is he admitting defeat this or and it was? It was.
It was defeated in the first like five minutes to
so wow, I don't think I've ever seen a college
basketball game where the players and the coaches feel feel
that pressure and like it's it's over. Like it was
over in the first five minutes of the game.
Speaker 1: We actually had a on the Jay Hark Radio network.
We had a coach who's no longer on staff come
on and he didn't say this on air, but he
had told one of my coworkers basically that we were
going to know in the first five minutes if it
was gonna be a blowout or if or if we
were going to be able to hang and we did
right away no, that it was not going to go
KU's way. But you know, KU, last year, like I said,
they were the seven. They've never been lower than a
four before that since coach has been here. But they
didn't have the ceiling, which is silly because the last
two years KU was preseason number one. But you look
at the roster, and it's like, well, why you know,
like Hunter Dickinson obviously was a good player in terms
of points and rebounds, but he was kind of slower.
And Dewan Harris was a nice floor general point guard,
but he wasn't like these ridiculously talented guys that we're
seeing in college basketball right now. And k you, like
I said, missed on some of those portal guys just
didn't work out either. But yeah, it was. It was
a rough three day stretch to Utah for KU, and
and honestly, last year what did it for KU? They
had a late January game at home against Houston. I
don't know if you remember, I do remember every one. Yeah,
I mean Kansas had a six point lead in regulation
down the stretch, blew it. Overtime happened. Then you got
a six point lead and you're shooting free throws a
few seconds to go and you blow that somehow, And
it's just I think that was something they never recovered from.
But vibes are much better around here this year because
you do have the guys who have kind of embraced
the culture, and you know they're they're hoping to hoping
to grind through this thing.
Speaker 2: Here with Sean Kellumer radio co host for the pregame
and postgame with Kansas basketball so on Jayhawk Radio, does
a lot of other things. You got to check them out,
you got to follow them on extit, Twitters or whatever
the kids in the adult call it these days. I'll
get you out of here on this Sean, and appreciate
your time. I wish we could go longer, but we
have to end the show. We're gonna have to bring
you back later in the season. What BAYU football definitely
comes along? How do you see this one playing out
BYU hasn't yet to get a quad one went on
the road. I know Ag and Rob are coming off
a nine and forty performance, but to go well, to
beat Kansas three times in a row, to go back
to back trips, to fall to Lawrence Kansas to win,
and fog Allen field House, I feel like that's a
tough ass to have a team to do, especially when
you have a projected number one overall pick on the roster.
Speaker 1: Yep. And we know that that's not something that's between
the lines, but it also is very real, right and
I think that that may be a factor. I think
it might be at least as a k fan. KU
fans are hoping it would be kind of one of
those Allen Field House games where you know, down the
stretch you're able to get that extra juice and get
it done. I'll tell you I felt great about Kansas
against Iowa State. Everybody thought I was crazy, but k
was one and two and reeling Bill Selsley in post
game West Virginia. We suck right now. I just felt
like the guys would bounce back because that's how they've
done it majority of coach Sell's tenure, and they went
out in clobdom. I felt good about the other three games.
This one, I don't feel as good about it. And
I think a lot of that is the talent of BYU.
And you know, I saw Kansas was a small favorite.
I think it's going to be even closer than that.
I think it's going to be one of those down
to the last one or two possessions. And and like
you said, you know, we don't want it to be
a Peterson versus bonsa thing. But hopefully college basketball fans,
NBA fans, whoever is tuning in can appreciate the greatness
that both these guys have and enjoy it, and I
know that the message that I'm sure coach self and
Coach Young have said is, Hey, this is a team effort.
We got to do it together. It's not just about
all this, But enjoy that show, and I think it'll
come down to the wire. I think it's important for
Kansas to limit the three ball. Whether it's Saunders or
Wright who hello is shooting forty three percent from three,
or Davis as well, that's always going to be key.
And the other thing that scares me from a k
fan perspective is BYU cleans up the offensive glass. That's
where Kay has been susceptible this year too. So can
the bigs of k you stay out of foul trouble?
Can they clean up the defensive rebounds? That sort of thing.
All that is going to be important. But yeah, man,
it should be should be an instant classic. I wish
we got you guys twice this year because I know
the maryat then it.
Speaker 2: Would be just see. I'm glad that you mentioned that
Brett or Martinia, who to have a conversation needs to
be investigated. I want to thirty for thirty. Why is
that not twice? Like, look, I know the winner of
this is probably gonna be the number one draft pick.
Let's just be honest, But like that, do you feel
that just as criminal that BYU and Kansas when we
get this matchup once?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? And I know they went from twenty to eighteen games,
and they want to keep KU with Case State, which
I'm honestly we hate in Zoo. I could care less
about facing Case Case State hates us, but but you know,
Masoo Mzoo is who we really hate. But they want
to keep those those teams together. But yeah, even self,
I remember said at some point during the season last year,
because in January or something last year, talking about scheduling.
When asked, he said, you know, what are the chances
kind of rhetorically, what are the chances that Peters and
Debotay get each other twice next year? Like assuming it
would happen, because everybody assumed it would happen because it's
such a showcase. But yeah, very strange. We get I
would stay in Arizona twice, which is not exactly fun.
I know that Arizona get gets US and you guys twice,
So I don't know who did all that, but only
get three teams twice? You still think they could have
probably made room on the schedule for one versus two
A couple of times.
Speaker 2: You definitely would. Someone in Vegas is not doing anything right.
Someone's not nice anyway. But look, yeah, you gotta Kansas
limit the old boards, don't get in foul trouble. If
your BYU number twenty two last time hit a buzzer
beater against AJ's team, it could happen again. Game day
is there. You said they were setting up earlier when
we talked earlier this afternoon, I'm excited for this matchup,
and look, I think you would agree. Whoever wins this game,
this is going to determine who's the five or the
six and give full advantage in the Big twelve standings
and going into the tournament.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be important, right, The tie breakers,
all that's important. The seed that you get in the
Big twelve tournament, all that matters. And like I said,
in terms of the NCAA tournament, I just I'm just
hopeful Kansas is able to hop over the four or
five line, just because you know you're facing a good
team pretty much pretty much throughout they're all good teams.
But but yeah, if you can you could sneak up
to a two or three. That'd be big, And there's
all so many marquee games that you can really do that.
But yeah, it should be shaping up to be in
the one thousandth game at Allen Field House, special it's
ever played. Yeah, it should be a really special one.
Speaker 2: Hey, best time, number one, number two pick going at
it BYU number thirteen, number fourteen Kansas tomorrow in the
one thousand game in fog Allen field House with Bill Sof,
one of the greatest college coaches. Will by you. As
I keep joking put Bill self into retirement. I always
keep joking about that. But we'll see. I think Kansas
might get this one tomorrow and it might solidify a
lot of things. Sean. Before I let you go, it has
been great having you. Got to get you back on
when especially when you get back to prof I got
to take you out to dinner for sure. Best way
our listeners can support you what you're doing, how you do.
Speaker 1: It, Hey, I appreciate that. Yeah. Well, you can follow
us on socials at the Kansas Nation. That's where we
have our daily show called Rock Talk Sports Talk All
Things KU at the Kansas Nation on Twitter, and then
I'm on Twitter at Sean Kellerman as well. But yeah,
on the Jayhawk Radio network, we'll have all sorts of coverage.
Hoping to get Jay Billis on pregame and yeah, hoping
to have a great time. But really appreciate it Ron
and enjoyed coming on absolutely well, return the favor when
you get to Lawrence. Would love to take you out
here as well, and hopefully a lot of a lot
of great conversations, a lot of great matchups and breaking
bread down the line as a conference post.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we definitely will break bread. You'll break bread with me.
Actually earlier. I'll be there in March for that big
twelve tournament, so you'll catch me there first, and then
definitely I'll make my way down to Lawrence, Kansas. I
went to the graduated last April and we went and
we saw all of the buildings and everything down there.
Got to go to fall Allen Man beauty, beautiful campus,
beautiful campus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is appreciate it. Yeah, I went to school
here and have never left. That's that's how strong I
feel about it. But I've heard great things about Provo
as well, so I'll be excited to get out there.
Speaker 2: Someday one hundred percent one of the best views in
college football for sure. Sean will let you go. Have
a good day, man, all right, thanks a lot. Ron
appreciate that was Sean Kellerman. We got to let him go,
but that is we'll do the rest of our show. Guys,
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