1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,879 Speaker 1: Iams right now, I gotta know the faux segment Tod 2 00:00:02,919 --> 00:00:05,080 Cougar Sports with Ben Kretel. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,839 Speaker 2: Now, welcome back to Cougar Sports here on one O 4 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:09,439 three nine ninety eight three ESP and the fan Ronald 5 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:12,039 the three man Weaver here. I appreciate everyone that's tuned 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,679 in for our show, that showed up and show out. 7 00:00:13,919 --> 00:00:17,199 Gonna close out the show with hoops Talk. Gotta talk 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,839 about a big time matchup, Top twenty five, Top fifteen 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,280 matchup tomorrow BYU Traveling. I believe right now, as we 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,239 speak to Kansas Lawrence, Kansas, to be exact, they'll probably 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,679 fly into obviously you know, Missouri, I think, or somewhere 12 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:35,000 over Aaron, Kansas and Missouri Kansas, you know, or whatever 13 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:37,280 it is. I don't know, and then go to Lawrence, 14 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:39,119 unless that's another airport I might not know. There's a 15 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:41,200 guy on the line who I'll welcome in momentarily. He 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,920 might know. There might be another airport closer, but nonetheless 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,119 that's where the game will be played. Fag Allen Field House. 18 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:48,560 If you thought the Marriott Center is a good atmosphere, 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,439 which it is, it's one of the great ones. Fag 20 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:53,719 Gallen Field House is another BYU has already taking a 21 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:56,520 one off Kansas and conference play going there. Can they 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,119 do it again this time? I think it's gonna be 23 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:02,479 even tougher, is gonna be even louder. I looked online 24 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:05,840 at Twitter. Fans are already camping out. Students were let in, 25 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:10,159 look this is gonna be loud, rambunctious. But look that's 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,400 what aj Demonsas said in one of his HISI media 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,159 availabilities in the post game after Utah. He came to 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,280 the Big twelve to not duck any smoke. He came 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,319 to play in these big time environments. What will happen 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,239 tomorrow will break it all down. 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That's eight zero one, eight hundred ninety 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,319 seven sixty seven to schedule your appointment today at Utah 42 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:54,519 Protective Films Dot Calm. Without further ado, Let's get out 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,840 to the hotline and welcome in our wonderful guest to 44 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,879 close out the show with us. Is gonna be a 45 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:01,760 great segment. He is radio co host of the pre 46 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:05,280 and post game for Kansas Basketball. We have Sean Kellerman 47 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,560 on the line. Sean, how are you going today? 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: What's up? Ron? Doing great? Man? How are you hey? 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I have to ask this first one. 50 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,319 Get out the way. Kind of a funny one, you know. 51 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:15,840 I saw Kellerman the last name. I'm like, is there 52 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,599 any relation to you know, Max Kellerman? I have to 53 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:20,879 get it out of the way. You probably have gotten 54 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:21,639 out your whole life. 55 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,159 Speaker 1: I've gotten it. Yeah, ever since Max got big on 56 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,639 ESPN and all of his escapade, No no relation at all. 57 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:32,319 I thought it was so interesting when I first saw him, 58 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,800 because I come from a big family. But I actually 59 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,039 don't see a lot of keller men, so no relation. 60 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,479 So I guess I gotta got a home my own road. 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Here Hey, you're holding it down, no doubt about it. 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,039 Speaker 1: Us. 63 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Sean, just give us a little bit of background what 64 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,919 you do, where you do it at I think this 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,159 is the first time we had you on the program. 66 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So, like you said, I am the host 67 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,599 of the pre and post game show for the Jayhawk 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,039 Radio Network. I'm in my eighth year doing that. Also 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,039 do postgame on the network for KU football. We do 70 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,120 the Crimson a Blue Show and the Jayhawk Locker Room 71 00:03:03,159 --> 00:03:06,520 Show with One's pre One's Post and basically are on 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,319 thirty plus stations across the state of Kansas and of 73 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,199 course online as well, So we're the place to go 74 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,319 for all the pre game post game coverage and we 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,120 go on essentially before the game broadcast and come on 76 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,439 again after and then I also host a sports talk 77 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,719 show during the week called Rock Chalk Sports at Kansas Nation. 78 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,639 Kansas Nation is a studio that we have downtown Massachusetts 79 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Street and Lawrence. That's kind of the big downtown place 80 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:35,919 to be in Lawrence's Massachusetts Street. So got a nice 81 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:38,960 studio down there, and yeah, host our show for Kansas Nation. 82 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:41,680 But yeah, separately game day coverage Jayhawk Radio Network and 83 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,039 it's been a blast man. 84 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,599 Speaker 2: You got a lot of hats that you wear, and 85 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:47,000 you do a phenomenal job. I was obviously when I 86 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,599 talked to you this morning about what we would discuss 87 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:50,759 and looked up. I was like, man, I was like, 88 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,639 this dude is phenomenals, Like how have we missed having 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,520 them on? Especially with that last name Kellerman? No doubt 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 before I know this is a basketball segment, but I 91 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:01,039 do need to ask you again us about football too, 92 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:03,680 because why football runs the ship at every you know program, 93 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,639 unless as Arizona football drives the ship, the basketball drive 94 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:09,919 the ship there excuse me, but just thoughts on you know, 95 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:12,840 a lands light pole. The Kansas Jayhawks b yu's zero 96 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,000 and two against them in in football botwo and oh 97 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,319 and basketball? So far Jayalen Daniels leaves the program, but 98 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,240 you pick up a nice pick up and Dylan Edwards 99 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:22,600 in the offseason, I like his game from Kansas State. 100 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,199 What do you what do you feel like? Uh Kansas 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,120 takes in football going into the offseason. 102 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, how strange is that? First off? The two and 103 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,680 oh BYU is against Kansas and basketball and oh and 104 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,839 two in football. You wouldn't have you wouldn't have guessed 105 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:38,199 that right since never BYU joined the conference. So yeah, 106 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,279 that's kind of how it's gone. But you know, the 107 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,720 last two seasons of KU football have been have been disappointing. 108 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:45,519 I would say it's fair to say that five and 109 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,120 seven both years and disappointing because I mean, you know, 110 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,759 everybody knows where Kansas football was from about two thousand 111 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:54,600 and eight until twenty twenty. We had season where we 112 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,040 didn't win any games, and it was it was down 113 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:59,399 in the dumps. You hired light Pole than twenty twenty one, 114 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,759 and then he really brought the program up from the dead. 115 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,120 I mean, it was the bottom program in terms of 116 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,519 power conferences, and you won six games, went to the 117 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,560 Liberty Bowl in twenty two, you won nine games, You 118 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,600 won the Rate Bowl at Chase Field in twenty three, 119 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,439 and then you had Jaylen Daniels coming back for twenty 120 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,319 four and you were thinking, all right, this is the 121 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,519 last year a JD. And he was rusty the first half, 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,680 didn't play well the second half. So then he got 123 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,639 another year of him in twenty five, and he was 124 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,600 great the first half and then didn't play well the 125 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,040 second half. So he had like a thirteen game stretch 126 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,000 where he was as good as any quarterback in KU history, 127 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,319 but it was across two seasons and Kansas just didn't 128 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 get consistent play. You pair that with losing so many 129 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,160 close games, blowing so many fourth quarter leads, and it 130 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,920 led to back to back five and seven seasons. But 131 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,360 this upcoming season, like you said, it'll be the first 132 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:53,920 time since Leipold got here that there's a quarterback battle. 133 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Isaiah Marshall I think is going to eventually win that. 134 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,600 He is a guy who's going to be third year 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,199 in the program, a dual threat, kind of can do 136 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,319 a little bit of everything, but he'll be a little 137 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:05,959 raw still with not having as much game talent. And 138 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,079 you mentioned Edwards. I mean, he came over from k 139 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,720 State and they hate us, so that was kind of 140 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,680 funny for us. He's the type of scatback that we needed. 141 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:18,240 The big story for Kansas football heading into this upcoming season, 142 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,800 Ron is we are bringing back our offensive coordinator from 143 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,040 those two bowl seasons that I mentioned, Andy cotal Nicky 144 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:27,759 is coming back as the associate head coach. He spent 145 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,240 the last two seasons as Penn State's offensive coordinator. So 146 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,879 we're keeping our offensive coordinator. But We're bringing Cotl Nicky 147 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:36,240 back as the associate head coach, and I think having 148 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,279 the dual threat QB that I think again, Marshall will 149 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,639 win that job. With Edwards who comes over from k 150 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,360 State and some other nice pieces, there's reason for hope 151 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,319 for sure. And we got a new stadium that's going 152 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,160 to be finalized at the end of twenty twenty six. 153 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:51,839 I think there's a decent amount of pressure to win 154 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:52,759 this upcoming season. 155 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what the jay Awks have a love Lance, 156 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,120 light pull, what he brings in height runs his program. 157 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,000 It's been fun to watch Jalen Daniels, Andy col and Nikky. 158 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:03,800 Like you said, I'm excited to see what he does. 159 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:07,040 And look, I know Kansas State hates you, but look 160 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,920 things that went wrong and that's how it goes. We 161 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:13,160 all know all about eight over here. It would by 162 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,759 U and Utah, so I trust me. I know about 163 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:16,800 those in state Robert games for Trum'm excited for that 164 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,639 new stadium as well, So this is gonna be a 165 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,000 fun time. Bau will travel to Lawrence in November. I 166 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,600 don't like that that matchup's late. I won't lie to you, Sean. 167 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,399 That might be the one that could help boy you 168 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,240 out of the big to championship. We'll see, because it's 169 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,279 hard to win in Kansas. It's hard to win in Kansas. 170 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:35,399 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah it is. It is no doubt about it. 171 00:07:35,439 --> 00:07:37,720 And uh and yeah, we're actually going. We got a 172 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,439 London game, the first game ever played at Wembley Stadium 173 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,000 September nineteenth, ku Arizona State. We're kind of forfeiting a 174 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,639 home game for that, which is gonna make it four 175 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:50,319 home games and or five home games whatever it is, 176 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:53,800 forfeiting one to go play the first ever game against 177 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Arizona State because the stadium is gonna be half under 178 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,120 construction and it's a quasi rebuilding year. They say, but 179 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,360 but that'll be a good experien answer the guys, it 180 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:01,720 will be. 181 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: That's you can't be taking those international trips, especially as 182 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,920 a team. Got to enjoy those. Well, let's get to 183 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,079 what everybody wants to hear. The premiere matchup, the projected 184 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,600 number one, number two pick, going at it number thirteen 185 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:16,920 BYU number fourteen Kansas tomorrow. Just your overall thoughts on 186 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,879 this game. It was announced earlier yesterday. I believe Darren 187 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,079 Peterson will play. Bill self confirmed that I'm excited for that. 188 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:25,560 I didn't there was no doubt in my mind or 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,839 I don't think yours anybody else that Darren would miss 190 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:28,639 this matchup at all. 191 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I mean, you know, I think he could 192 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,919 have played at k State when KU won there on Saturday, 193 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,399 but I thought it was interesting and maybe a semi 194 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,240 flex to Casey postgame when coach said, oh, yeah, he'll play, 195 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,600 as we didn't need him today necessarily, but he's gonna 196 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,480 want to play. I mean, it's just there have been 197 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:50,720 games that Darren's missed, and you know, there's a lot 198 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:53,279 that's gone into that, and it's been tough for kau 199 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,120 fans honestly. I mean, you know how fan bases get. 200 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,279 I mean people say, oh, you collecting the nils and 201 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,919 all that. He legitimately has had leg issues, whether it 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,360 was a hamstring or cramping and that sort of thing, 203 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:09,799 and it just hasn't been a one hundred percent situation. 204 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:11,879 And I think you know, a couple of weeks ago 205 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,679 he was getting close to one hundred percent and then 206 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:17,879 rolled his ankle at Colorado. Did finish that game, but 207 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,159 you knew with the fact that Kansas bye week coming, 208 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,679 you know, happened to be in between k State and BYU. 209 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,879 It's like, Kay, only one game in the next ten days, 210 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Let's see if we can rest up VP and see 211 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,200 if he can go. So I'm not saying he's going 212 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,320 to be one hundred percent, but I think he'll be 213 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:35,480 as close to it as he's been. We haven't heard 214 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,480 much from the leg side of things. I assume that's 215 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:41,879 subsided the past month or so, so that's been big. 216 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,080 I'll say this regarding Kay. You you know, with Peterson 217 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,240 being in out of the lineup, it's been pretty choppy 218 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:53,480 for Kansas until the Iowa State game. KYU lost to 219 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:55,919 West Virginia. They were sitting at eleven and five, one 220 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,000 and two in Big twelve play. You lose to West Virginia, 221 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,559 who you know at that time your thing. It was 222 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,879 a bottom feed or all of a sudden, you look 223 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:04,559 and they're five and three, but you lose to West 224 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Virginia and you're like, man, this is not right. We're 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,960 falling out of the rankings. And now we got number 226 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,440 two Iowa State coming in. I don't know what changed, 227 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,320 but Iowa State came in and k you just put 228 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,879 it on them and it was the first time with 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,000 DP out there that KU really was showing aggressiveness from 230 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,559 all spots. With Peterson in and out of the lineup. 231 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,639 There had been times where Kansas looked better without him 232 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:30,840 because the guys had just so many more reps without him, 233 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,679 And then when he came back, it was a lot 234 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 of ball watching kind of stagnant because there was a 235 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,919 lot of all, right, let's just stand in the corner 236 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,799 and watch DP go to work. Something clicked to where 237 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:44,320 the guys started being aggressive when DP was out there, 238 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,399 and DP was aggressive, and all of a sudden, the 239 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,000 guys were kind of jelling, and now we saw, even 240 00:10:51,039 --> 00:10:54,639 though DP didn't play against k State, it looked like 241 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,679 a team that's kind of found its rhythm. So K's 242 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:01,080 rolled off four straight after the State game. It hasn't 243 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,200 been the most difficult stretch, but they needed to win 244 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,440 those four games to kind of get back in the conversation. 245 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,600 And again, most importantly is it seems like the guys 246 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,360 are gelling more whether Peterson is out there or not, 247 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,799 which is a really big story around here. While he 248 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:15,080 was in and out during. 249 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,759 Speaker 2: Most of the non con Look, those four games are valuable. 250 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:19,720 You beat a top ten opponent at home. I know 251 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:21,519 it was on the road for them, but that's difficult. 252 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,000 You beat them by twenty, then you have to play Baylor, 253 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,720 a top quad one team. You beat them, and then 254 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,399 you gotta go on the road. We know how difficult 255 00:11:27,399 --> 00:11:28,919 it is to win in the Big twelve. You get 256 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,399 a Colorado team and then you get a Kansas State team. 257 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,519 Both of those places aren't easy to play. So I mean, 258 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,080 I look at that schedule. People could say not formidable, 259 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,720 but to me, that's tough regardless. But that leads me 260 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,320 to my next question. This team Elite eight team, you know, 261 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,039 where do you see the ceiling? Obviously you need a 262 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:47,720 player like Darren Petison to compete for a national championship, 263 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,519 but you just mentioned it. At times when he's not 264 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,399 in the gam or on the floor, they look better 265 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,240 at times. 266 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have, And I think that that's going to 267 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:59,159 eventually not be true because I think, assuming DP is 268 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,799 going to be healthy, you know people, I mean people 269 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:04,000 around here again, like I said, you know how fans 270 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,919 get I mean, they get salty and they get tried 271 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,879 full about their program and you know, oh, you know 272 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,919 they want him to be tiring enough about Kansas to 273 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,000 play out there no matter what he does. It's not that, 274 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,480 it's just, you know, everything's better when you're winning, and 275 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:21,759 everything's worse when you're losing, and when you're losing, all 276 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:24,559 of a sudden, it feels like the wheels are falling off. 277 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,240 This guy doesn't want to play here. Do the guys 278 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,159 even like each other? There hasn't been any of that. 279 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,320 But I think with a healthy Peterson out there, I 280 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,080 think Kansas could get to the Final four. And I 281 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,720 know that's saying a lot, but what's changed compared to 282 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:40,639 the last couple of years which have been I can't 283 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:44,960 even overstay this incredibly disappointing from a kau basketball standpoint. 284 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,440 You're a four seed and a seven seed. Kansas had 285 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,480 never been lower than a four before getting a seven 286 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:53,080 last year, so people were hungry for a roster turnover. 287 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 The difference is they've gotten these other guys in who 288 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,639 they've hit on in the transfer portal, primarily Melvin Council 289 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,440 and Trey White. Melvin Council is the heartbeat of this team. 290 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,360 I mean, he's unbelievably fast. He plays, you know, with 291 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,840 that dog type energy that you'll see a lot. And 292 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:13,759 then Trey White he's having the best year of his career. 293 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:15,840 I mean, he's shooting upwards of forty percent from three. 294 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,360 He's only six six probably, but he's got five double doubles, 295 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 and he's not afraid to be in there with the trees. 296 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,600 It seems like every other game he's got a bloody 297 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,879 nose in there. And they're just kind of embracing the 298 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,759 Kansas culture and the toughness that coach self has always 299 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,279 wanted and has always had so much success for. So 300 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,080 I do think Final four could be a ceiling for 301 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,759 this team. A lot has to come together, and I 302 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:42,240 honestly think, even though we don't like talking until he 303 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:45,039 gets closer to March about seating, my big thing is 304 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,679 you got to get up to that three line if 305 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,559 you can, because Kansas is being on the four or five. 306 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,399 I mean, you know how the tournament is. You got 307 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:53,720 four to five. I mean your first game is hard, 308 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:55,480 and then your second game is against a four or five, 309 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,080 and then your next games against the one. Like, you 310 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,559 don't want that, so you want to try to get 311 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,480 up to the two three line. And as hard as 312 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,279 Kansas schedule is moving forward and a lot of big 313 00:14:04,279 --> 00:14:07,000 twelve teams, it also is an opportunity to do that 314 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,519 and continue to build your resume. So so we'll see. 315 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,759 But if everybody's able to stay healthy, I love what 316 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:13,279 I've seen in the last couple of weeks in terms 317 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:13,919 of a ceiling. 318 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned obviously the schedule and everything. Let's go 319 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:19,879 back a little bit that I always state game he said, 320 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:22,240 Trey white Man. Was he a special in that game? 321 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Nineteen points, those ten rebounds, like you said, one of 322 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,360 those double doubles leading obviously Kansas in that game. And 323 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:30,600 look that dude gets hot. He's scary. I was watching 324 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:32,480 him a shoot. I was like, if look, you go 325 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:34,679 back to Iowa State last year, when you think of 326 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,639 the guys that they had, I'm forgetting the guy that 327 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:41,399 was lighting up from from tre Yeah Curtis Jones, Yeah exactly, 328 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,200 you just took it. He reminds me of that. Like 329 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,759 when he gets going, he's a problem, and like Frank 330 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:47,879 Freschil says, you better stop him because if you don't, 331 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,279 he's gonna punish you a lot. And look, it's not 332 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,679 just offensively like you mentioned, he will go in there 333 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,919 and being a guy that sixty five sixty six, bang 334 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,360 down on and grab boards, which look this big, The 335 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,399 Big twelve conference is so talent. From your standpoint, what 336 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,240 do you observe because you just said schedule right, you're 337 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,240 gonna play BYU. Do you go on the road to 338 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,320 play number eleven Texas Tech, and then you know, dischedule 339 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:09,639 the rest of all. You got Iowa State again, Houston 340 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:12,559 at home, you go on the road to number one Arizona. 341 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Is this this conference is a lead from top to bottom. 342 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,919 Speaker 1: Oh, it's brutal. And I know Arizona's got a tough 343 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,559 schedule this stretch too. They got to play you guys twice. 344 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,399 They got to play us twice. And it's nice being 345 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:26,559 a good program like KU and BY you have because 346 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,600 then you can you can have that mindset of yeah, 347 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,879 we have to play these teams, but they got to 348 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:33,600 play us, right. But that's the situation this next month, 349 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:35,639 and that's why those last four games that we talked 350 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:37,480 about were so important for k You just kind of 351 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:40,399 getting back to where they need to be at five 352 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,799 and two, a respectable conference record at this point. But yeah, 353 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,320 it's kind of the one game at a time mentality 354 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,360 and knowing that it's not going to be fun when 355 00:15:49,399 --> 00:15:51,840 Arizona comes to town, or when Houston comes to town 356 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:54,440 and Lubbock's become one of the tougher places to play 357 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,440 in the conference, and that'll be a quick turnaround for 358 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,720 KU also. But you know one other thing I want 359 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,399 to point out about the roster. You mentioned White, and 360 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:04,960 he really has been a dog and these guys in 361 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:07,240 the portal, because you look Kansas the last couple of years, 362 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,200 I mean, they missed on aj Store that didn't work out, 363 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:13,200 Ryley Griffin didn't work out, Nick Kimberlake the year before 364 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,519 that didn't work out. They've had some misses, but Counsel 365 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,480 and White, those are the guys who have really, like 366 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,919 I said, embraced the culture. And the other thing that 367 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:24,159 makes Kansas ceiling getting to the final four, in my 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,840 opinion is Florie Badunga, who's a guy who remember he 369 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,480 went into the transfer portal briefly and Kyu essentially had 370 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,279 to get him back. He's a sophomore. The whole chatter 371 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,600 around here in the offseason, Ron was the one two 372 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:42,879 punch of Darren Peterson and Florida Badunga and how the 373 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,000 non kink kind of went on and Kansas did have 374 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:47,639 some great moments and won all three games in Vegas, 375 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:49,960 the players there and all that. The non kink kind 376 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 of went on as you had the DP saga where 377 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,679 he was in and out of the lineup and Flori 378 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,840 was okay, had some good moments, but it was a 379 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:00,360 lot of Melvin Counsel Trey White grinding out up these 380 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,480 wins and a lot of good things in that. But 381 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:06,000 the last couple of weeks you've still had Counsel in White. 382 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,960 But then you've got DP, who's just an incredibly special talent, 383 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:13,839 and we've seen that at times, and then all of 384 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:16,079 a sudden, Flory's coming about. He had twenty one to 385 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,799 ten against K State. He doesn't not have the whitest body, 386 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:21,960 but he's very bouncy and he's a great rim protector. 387 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,440 Now this stat isn't taking into account Wilts because it 388 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,559 goes back to seventy four to seventy five, but Flory 389 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,799 was the quickest to one hundred blocks in KU history 390 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:32,880 since that was supported. And he also has shown the 391 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,720 ability the last couple games to guard one through five. 392 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:38,680 I mean PJ. Haggerty couldn't get by him K State. 393 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:41,440 I mean he had that kind of ability to keep 394 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,799 PJ down and not allow him anything easy, and then 395 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:46,680 when they do shoot, he's able to protect the rim. 396 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,680 So that's going to be big, I think, especially tomorrow 397 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,279 against BYU, because you guys got a lot of dudes, 398 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,400 and certainly Rob Wright was our absolute nightmare in Waco 399 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:58,400 last year. Oh they remember second half? Yeah, I'm sure, 400 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:01,440 I'm sure and we remember too. We had had a 401 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,440 lot of games that we want to forget in recent years, 402 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,160 but he was a nightmare. But again, you know, we're 403 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,440 gonna switch a lot. We have the guys. I'm hoping 404 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,400 for a big game from Bryce and Tiller because he's 405 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,839 really talented, raw freshman that'll start at the four, but 406 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:19,279 you know, not quite as quick twitch as some of 407 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:21,720 those other guys. But the ability to switch four or 408 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,880 five is big. And Flory the Dune got is a 409 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,200 big reason why Kansas can do that. 410 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:27,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at Floria obviously, the sixteen, two hundred 411 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,480 and thirty five pounder. Look their big by is gonna 412 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,200 go big. Is gonna be a great matchup? Is that 413 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:35,680 the guy to guard aj? Look, I know everybody's gonna 414 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,160 be like, all right, a j and Darren go out 415 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,640 of which they guarded each other in high school. The 416 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,880 last time they matched up, I think Darren dropped fifty 417 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,039 eight the buzzer beater in ajad forty nine. That's not 418 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,680 happening tomorrow. I don't think guys are gonna go one 419 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,319 on one, and if you do, I think you're gonna 420 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,680 lose the game. I don't think you can buy into 421 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,799 the NBA narrative of let them go out, of you 422 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,559 have to play team basketball. But it is Floria that 423 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,640 guy to to take aj you know, to to start 424 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,359 the game, just with how athletic he is in that 425 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,880 size and like you said, coming off with twenty one 426 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:01,240 and performance. 427 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,799 Speaker 1: My gut would say yes. But I'm worried about all 428 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:09,519 your guys because because Caba Cada is a load, I mean, 429 00:19:09,559 --> 00:19:12,319 he kind of reminds me around these parts of kJ Adams, 430 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,400 who I know, you guys respond, but Cave is even bigger, 431 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,559 a better imp protector, and even stronger than kJ, who 432 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:20,799 is just a freak athlete in his own right. But 433 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,720 I could see just from a quickness standpoint, Flory being 434 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:29,119 matched up initially with aj and then BT, who usually 435 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,319 plays the four, would be matched up with with Cada, 436 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:35,799 and again Tiller potentially getting in foul trouble would be 437 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:38,640 a concern because we don't go we don't go deeper. 438 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,400 I mean, Trey White kind of plays the four at 439 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,559 times and he's, like I said, only six six, So 440 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,400 that's gonna be a big is a big deal is 441 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,799 can Kansas too big stay out of foul trouble? And 442 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:52,400 and they do have the ability to switch, Like obviously 443 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,559 if if A's got the ball and Kansas is switching, 444 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:56,920 you know, Council is a really good defender. And then 445 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,400 DP obviously has links as well. But yeah, I mean, 446 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 I'm it's not just the big three that you look 447 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,960 at that that's Scario with aj and and Saunders, and 448 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:09,839 right it's Jones hit five threes or Davis rather hit 449 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,480 five threes. And then you know Cad I already mentioned 450 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:17,119 is averaging nearly two blocks a game. But but Saunders 451 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,880 has given me some nightmares too, so I'm interested to 452 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,079 see if Kansas can can keep him off the line. 453 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:24,160 The other thing that you know, as you know, is 454 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,799 a rarity is by us beating Kansas the last two 455 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,559 years and and our trip, our our beautiful trip to 456 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,200 Provo and Salt Lake City last year was about as 457 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,400 as rock bottom as this program has been since Coach 458 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,920 Selt has been here, not just because you guys got 459 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720 us by thirty four, but then we went to Utah 460 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,319 and lost. I mean, and you can imagine how how 461 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,559 people here are feeling about Kansas basketball listening to Utah. 462 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,200 I mean, I don't want to be disrespectful, but what 463 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,759 are we doing, guys? So so it was definitely a 464 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:59,440 trying trip. But I know there was some some interesting 465 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,799 locker rooms after that, and Kay, you never could quite 466 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,160 figure it out. But but yeah, I think there may 467 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 be a little bit of revenge factor. But at the 468 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:09,160 end of the day, it'll be all that in the 469 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,920 pomp and circumstances of game day. It'll be one in 470 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,160 between the lines and and it should be an awesome game. 471 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: It should be, like I said, students already camping, I 472 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,759 was gonna be loud, raucous. I mean, that's the environments 473 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:21,039 you want to play. And if you're Darren Peterson, you 474 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,599 got the home crowd this time. But going on the 475 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,039 road in AJ as well as definitely gonna be a game, 476 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:28,039 no doubt. Yeah that I had never seen Bill self, 477 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,359 and I mean you probably saw it. He cost two 478 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,759 timeouts in the first like six minutes, and he after 479 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:36,200 the second one, he put his hands behind his head 480 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,000 and lean back and said, Yep, it's gonna be I'm like, 481 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,640 is he admitting defeat this or and it was? It was. 482 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,519 It was defeated in the first like five minutes to 483 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:45,200 so wow, I don't think I've ever seen a college 484 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,680 basketball game where the players and the coaches feel feel 485 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,960 that pressure and like it's it's over. Like it was 486 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,119 over in the first five minutes of the game. 487 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: We actually had a on the Jay Hark Radio network. 488 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,400 We had a coach who's no longer on staff come 489 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,880 on and he didn't say this on air, but he 490 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,640 had told one of my coworkers basically that we were 491 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 going to know in the first five minutes if it 492 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:10,680 was gonna be a blowout or if or if we 493 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,680 were going to be able to hang and we did 494 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:15,160 right away no, that it was not going to go 495 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,559 KU's way. But you know, KU, last year, like I said, 496 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:20,480 they were the seven. They've never been lower than a 497 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:23,680 four before that since coach has been here. But they 498 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,960 didn't have the ceiling, which is silly because the last 499 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,240 two years KU was preseason number one. But you look 500 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,240 at the roster, and it's like, well, why you know, 501 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:35,200 like Hunter Dickinson obviously was a good player in terms 502 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,279 of points and rebounds, but he was kind of slower. 503 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,519 And Dewan Harris was a nice floor general point guard, 504 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,680 but he wasn't like these ridiculously talented guys that we're 505 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,279 seeing in college basketball right now. And k you, like 506 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:50,359 I said, missed on some of those portal guys just 507 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 didn't work out either. But yeah, it was. It was 508 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,400 a rough three day stretch to Utah for KU, and 509 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,519 and honestly, last year what did it for KU? They 510 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:01,680 had a late January game at home against Houston. I 511 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,279 don't know if you remember, I do remember every one. Yeah, 512 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,680 I mean Kansas had a six point lead in regulation 513 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,480 down the stretch, blew it. Overtime happened. Then you got 514 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,440 a six point lead and you're shooting free throws a 515 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:17,680 few seconds to go and you blow that somehow, And 516 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,400 it's just I think that was something they never recovered from. 517 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,400 But vibes are much better around here this year because 518 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,119 you do have the guys who have kind of embraced 519 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,680 the culture, and you know they're they're hoping to hoping 520 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,759 to grind through this thing. 521 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,559 Speaker 2: Here with Sean Kellumer radio co host for the pregame 522 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:36,200 and postgame with Kansas basketball so on Jayhawk Radio, does 523 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,920 a lot of other things. You got to check them out, 524 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,079 you got to follow them on extit, Twitters or whatever 525 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,440 the kids in the adult call it these days. I'll 526 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,440 get you out of here on this Sean, and appreciate 527 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,920 your time. I wish we could go longer, but we 528 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,759 have to end the show. We're gonna have to bring 529 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:50,359 you back later in the season. What BAYU football definitely 530 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,799 comes along? How do you see this one playing out 531 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,640 BYU hasn't yet to get a quad one went on 532 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,400 the road. I know Ag and Rob are coming off 533 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,279 a nine and forty performance, but to go well, to 534 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,759 beat Kansas three times in a row, to go back 535 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,799 to back trips, to fall to Lawrence Kansas to win, 536 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:06,839 and fog Allen field House, I feel like that's a 537 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,519 tough ass to have a team to do, especially when 538 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000 you have a projected number one overall pick on the roster. 539 00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: Yep. And we know that that's not something that's between 540 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200 the lines, but it also is very real, right and 541 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,759 I think that that may be a factor. I think 542 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,519 it might be at least as a k fan. KU 543 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:25,960 fans are hoping it would be kind of one of 544 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,519 those Allen Field House games where you know, down the 545 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:30,559 stretch you're able to get that extra juice and get 546 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:33,640 it done. I'll tell you I felt great about Kansas 547 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,799 against Iowa State. Everybody thought I was crazy, but k 548 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,000 was one and two and reeling Bill Selsley in post 549 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,440 game West Virginia. We suck right now. I just felt 550 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,680 like the guys would bounce back because that's how they've 551 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,440 done it majority of coach Sell's tenure, and they went 552 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,640 out in clobdom. I felt good about the other three games. 553 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,839 This one, I don't feel as good about it. And 554 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,160 I think a lot of that is the talent of BYU. 555 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:58,039 And you know, I saw Kansas was a small favorite. 556 00:24:58,079 --> 00:24:59,920 I think it's going to be even closer than that. 557 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:01,920 I think it's going to be one of those down 558 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,839 to the last one or two possessions. And and like 559 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480 you said, you know, we don't want it to be 560 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,240 a Peterson versus bonsa thing. But hopefully college basketball fans, 561 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,599 NBA fans, whoever is tuning in can appreciate the greatness 562 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,079 that both these guys have and enjoy it, and I 563 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,279 know that the message that I'm sure coach self and 564 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,400 Coach Young have said is, Hey, this is a team effort. 565 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,960 We got to do it together. It's not just about 566 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,279 all this, But enjoy that show, and I think it'll 567 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,039 come down to the wire. I think it's important for 568 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Kansas to limit the three ball. Whether it's Saunders or 569 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:38,079 Wright who hello is shooting forty three percent from three, 570 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 or Davis as well, that's always going to be key. 571 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,519 And the other thing that scares me from a k 572 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,440 fan perspective is BYU cleans up the offensive glass. That's 573 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,759 where Kay has been susceptible this year too. So can 574 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,720 the bigs of k you stay out of foul trouble? 575 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,079 Can they clean up the defensive rebounds? That sort of thing. 576 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,119 All that is going to be important. But yeah, man, 577 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,119 it should be should be an instant classic. I wish 578 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,680 we got you guys twice this year because I know 579 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,400 the maryat then it. 580 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: Would be just see. I'm glad that you mentioned that 581 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,680 Brett or Martinia, who to have a conversation needs to 582 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440 be investigated. I want to thirty for thirty. Why is 583 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,559 that not twice? Like, look, I know the winner of 584 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:11,160 this is probably gonna be the number one draft pick. 585 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Let's just be honest, But like that, do you feel 586 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,200 that just as criminal that BYU and Kansas when we 587 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,079 get this matchup once? 588 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,599 Speaker 1: Absolutely? And I know they went from twenty to eighteen games, 589 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,759 and they want to keep KU with Case State, which 590 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,880 I'm honestly we hate in Zoo. I could care less 591 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,160 about facing Case Case State hates us, but but you know, 592 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,240 Masoo Mzoo is who we really hate. But they want 593 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,880 to keep those those teams together. But yeah, even self, 594 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,880 I remember said at some point during the season last year, 595 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,640 because in January or something last year, talking about scheduling. 596 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,839 When asked, he said, you know, what are the chances 597 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,039 kind of rhetorically, what are the chances that Peters and 598 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,279 Debotay get each other twice next year? Like assuming it 599 00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,440 would happen, because everybody assumed it would happen because it's 600 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,200 such a showcase. But yeah, very strange. We get I 601 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,839 would stay in Arizona twice, which is not exactly fun. 602 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 I know that Arizona get gets US and you guys twice, 603 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,880 So I don't know who did all that, but only 604 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,599 get three teams twice? You still think they could have 605 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,519 probably made room on the schedule for one versus two 606 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:09,160 A couple of times. 607 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: You definitely would. Someone in Vegas is not doing anything right. 608 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,640 Someone's not nice anyway. But look, yeah, you gotta Kansas 609 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,880 limit the old boards, don't get in foul trouble. If 610 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,440 your BYU number twenty two last time hit a buzzer 611 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,039 beater against AJ's team, it could happen again. Game day 612 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,079 is there. You said they were setting up earlier when 613 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:29,200 we talked earlier this afternoon, I'm excited for this matchup, 614 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,640 and look, I think you would agree. Whoever wins this game, 615 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,559 this is going to determine who's the five or the 616 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,000 six and give full advantage in the Big twelve standings 617 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 and going into the tournament. 618 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be important, right, The tie breakers, 619 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,079 all that's important. The seed that you get in the 620 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,799 Big twelve tournament, all that matters. And like I said, 621 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,759 in terms of the NCAA tournament, I just I'm just 622 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,359 hopeful Kansas is able to hop over the four or 623 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,720 five line, just because you know you're facing a good 624 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,440 team pretty much pretty much throughout they're all good teams. 625 00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,720 But but yeah, if you can you could sneak up 626 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,799 to a two or three. That'd be big, And there's 627 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,240 all so many marquee games that you can really do that. 628 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,559 But yeah, it should be shaping up to be in 629 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,680 the one thousandth game at Allen Field House, special it's 630 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720 ever played. Yeah, it should be a really special one. 631 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: Hey, best time, number one, number two pick going at 632 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,799 it BYU number thirteen, number fourteen Kansas tomorrow in the 633 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,519 one thousand game in fog Allen field House with Bill Sof, 634 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,200 one of the greatest college coaches. Will by you. As 635 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440 I keep joking put Bill self into retirement. I always 636 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,400 keep joking about that. But we'll see. I think Kansas 637 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,559 might get this one tomorrow and it might solidify a 638 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:32,799 lot of things. Sean. Before I let you go, it has 639 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:34,400 been great having you. Got to get you back on 640 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,000 when especially when you get back to prof I got 641 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,000 to take you out to dinner for sure. Best way 642 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440 our listeners can support you what you're doing, how you do. 643 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,079 Speaker 1: It, Hey, I appreciate that. Yeah. Well, you can follow 644 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,559 us on socials at the Kansas Nation. That's where we 645 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,279 have our daily show called Rock Talk Sports Talk All 646 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,799 Things KU at the Kansas Nation on Twitter, and then 647 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,160 I'm on Twitter at Sean Kellerman as well. But yeah, 648 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,559 on the Jayhawk Radio network, we'll have all sorts of coverage. 649 00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:00,519 Hoping to get Jay Billis on pregame and yeah, hoping 650 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,640 to have a great time. But really appreciate it Ron 651 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,880 and enjoyed coming on absolutely well, return the favor when 652 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,960 you get to Lawrence. Would love to take you out 653 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,839 here as well, and hopefully a lot of a lot 654 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,279 of great conversations, a lot of great matchups and breaking 655 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,039 bread down the line as a conference post. 656 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we definitely will break bread. You'll break bread with me. 657 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,559 Actually earlier. I'll be there in March for that big 658 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:21,680 twelve tournament, so you'll catch me there first, and then 659 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:24,160 definitely I'll make my way down to Lawrence, Kansas. I 660 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,640 went to the graduated last April and we went and 661 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,559 we saw all of the buildings and everything down there. 662 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,200 Got to go to fall Allen Man beauty, beautiful campus, 663 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,039 beautiful campus. 664 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is appreciate it. Yeah, I went to school 665 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720 here and have never left. That's that's how strong I 666 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,279 feel about it. But I've heard great things about Provo 667 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,799 as well, so I'll be excited to get out there. 668 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:44,319 Speaker 2: Someday one hundred percent one of the best views in 669 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,160 college football for sure. Sean will let you go. Have 670 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,279 a good day, man, all right, thanks a lot. Ron 671 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:50,839 appreciate that was Sean Kellerman. We got to let him go, 672 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,720 but that is we'll do the rest of our show. Guys, 673 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,519 we appreciate everybody that shoined us. Shout out to Dave McCann. 674 00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:57,400 Shout out to Sean Kellermer who we just heard. Steve 675 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,960 Clements also joined us. We listened to Kevin Young sound 676 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,880 as well. Also listening to Brett always bringing the hammer. 677 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200 He joined the program brand and so he learning. Caleb Lions, 678 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,559 VIC Cramlin Data aggregation. Shout out to all of our sponsors. 679 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,480 Can't do a show with all of our sponsors that 680 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,400 would do it for this week. Tune in tomorrow on 681 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,319 the pregame basketball show starting at one thirty pm Andrew 682 00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,000 Peterson and myself. But until then, everybody, have a good night, 683 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:20,279 have a safe night. You've been listening to Coogar Sports