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<v Speaker 1>Oh there. Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger warn This podcast may include explicit content that will

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<v Speaker 2>take you out of your comfort zone and make you

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<v Speaker 2>question reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener's discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, and welcome back to the show. A little change

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<v Speaker 4>of scenery. We'll talk about that another time. Onto business.

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<v Speaker 4>How is everybody doing a lot of stuff that we

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<v Speaker 4>need to catch up on today? So I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>about this, Colby told me about this. What did I

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<v Speaker 4>fucking say?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Like two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? I said, in

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<v Speaker 4>order to distract from the Epstein files, they're gonna come

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<v Speaker 4>out with some fucking crazy shit about aliens, extraterrestrials something.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I guess Trump tweeted that he was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do some ancient aliens disclosure type shit. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if he's done it yet or not, or if

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<v Speaker 4>he's just talking trying to distract, because they're about to

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<v Speaker 4>come out and say there was some shit in Epstein

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<v Speaker 4>files about getting piped up the b hole or some

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. It's about to say, you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>was drowning puppies, we was eating babies, we was doing

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<v Speaker 4>all the things. Oh, by the way, aliens. So we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see how that shakes out. I fucking told you so.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like Alex Jones right now, minus that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like a CIA operative. Anyways, so I was watching this

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<v Speaker 4>thing the other day. I got two stories for you,

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<v Speaker 4>both true stories. You can google it. The first story was,

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<v Speaker 4>this dude was just sitting on his back patio or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, just minding his own business, maybe doing

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<v Speaker 4>a little barbecue in I don't know, and all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden he sees this airplane, commercial airplane like Southwest

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<v Speaker 4>or some shit like that, just flying over his house

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<v Speaker 4>and a dude person he didn't know was a dude

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<v Speaker 4>at the time, just falling straight out of the airplane.

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<v Speaker 4>So he starts freaking out, calls nine to one one

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, and he tries to walk over to

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<v Speaker 4>where he thinks this guy's gonna drop, and by the

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<v Speaker 4>time he gets there, there's a man in a bathrobe

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<v Speaker 4>standing there his whole back patio. This cement is fucking cave.

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<v Speaker 4>The fucking like a fucking meteor shower just occurred, and

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<v Speaker 4>the dude that fell out of the airplane hit this

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<v Speaker 4>other guy's back patio, shattered the concrete, and there were

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<v Speaker 4>just bits and chunks of dismembered body parts, blood, everything

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<v Speaker 4>splattered all over the fucking place. And it turns out,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how they came to this conclusion, but

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<v Speaker 4>this is what they say. The guy was already dead

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<v Speaker 4>before he hitited the patio, and he was also frozen solid.

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<v Speaker 4>And at the end of the show they try to

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<v Speaker 4>explain it away by saying, oh, he was probably like

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<v Speaker 4>a stowaway person and he got stuck somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 4>airplane and froze into an ice cube. However that happens,

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<v Speaker 4>not saying it can't, but that's what this story is.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was already dead because he was a frozen

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<v Speaker 4>chunk of ice cube in the airplane. And then somehow,

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<v Speaker 4>all on its own, the airplane decided to open some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hatch and his body was ejected from the

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<v Speaker 4>airplane and just went spiraling through the air landed on

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's back patio. He comes out in his bathrobe.

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<v Speaker 4>That's definitely not something you'd expect to see on a

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday morning in your bathrobe. It's like, Oh, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I might do a little barbecuing today. I think I might,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Refiel the bird feeders enjoy and relax a

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<v Speaker 4>peaceful Sunday morning. No, you got a frozen, dead ass

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<v Speaker 4>corpse sky falling onto your back patio and shattering into

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<v Speaker 4>a million pieces. Now let's turn on our conspiracy brains

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<v Speaker 4>for a second. Let's say there's many possible options here,

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<v Speaker 4>But let's say it was a stowaway who got trapped

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<v Speaker 4>in the airplane, somehow turned into an icicle and then

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<v Speaker 4>fell out of the plane. Why would the airplane open

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a commercial, it's like a passenger airplane. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like Delta fucking flying over a neighborhood. Why would the

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<v Speaker 4>airplane suddenly open to eject this guy. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>sense to me. That would have freaked out all the

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<v Speaker 4>passengers if they're Oh, by the way, if you hear something,

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<v Speaker 4>we're just opening up whatever under the plane going to

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<v Speaker 4>throw out this dead guy. Secondly, how is it, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm just retarded. If he was a stowaway, why

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<v Speaker 4>was he in a frozen block of ice? It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of winter. This was summertime. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it gets cold the higher up you go

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, But a frozen block of ice and then

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<v Speaker 4>the airplane opens just in time to expel this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>so he falls out over a neighborhood and the guy

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<v Speaker 4>was never identified. Like if that happened to me, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like following up and shit, like, who's DNA do

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<v Speaker 4>I have all over this patio? And do they have

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<v Speaker 4>a cousin or a spouse or something that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>reimburst me for the damage to my patio? Like I

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<v Speaker 4>get a rip and everything. I got a patio I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta fix. Does he have a life insurance policy? What's

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<v Speaker 4>the name? I can look for it under? All right, so,

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<v Speaker 4>and does homeowners cover that? Like that's the call you

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't want to make it to your homeowner's insurance. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a problem I need to report. I'd like

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<v Speaker 4>to open up a case file for my back patio.

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<v Speaker 4>It's caved the fucking dead frozen chunk of ice. Did

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<v Speaker 4>ass corpse busted up my patio? And I was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have people over next weekend and now I can't because

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<v Speaker 4>there's bludd and guts all over my fucking brand new

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<v Speaker 4>fucking patio, shit furniture, and who's gonna pay for But anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd just be thinking about stuff like this, like the

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<v Speaker 4>guy never got identified, It was never explained how he

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<v Speaker 4>turned into a frozen block of ice and why he

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<v Speaker 4>was dumped out of a passenger airplane over a neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>Just dot dot dot, I guess remains to be seen,

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<v Speaker 4>little creepy, little weird hopefully. You know, just when you

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<v Speaker 4>go out of your house, people look for the kimtrails,

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<v Speaker 4>look for you know, they'd be spraying us and shit,

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<v Speaker 4>but also frozen dead ass corpse falling unidentified bodies in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky. This is America. You never know what you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get. Okay, maybe aliens according to Trump. Now, second

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<v Speaker 4>story I heard about, Okay, this one, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>google it. I'm about to google it right now because

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot the name of the team. And this will

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<v Speaker 4>add credibility to this shit, cause you guys be thinking

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<v Speaker 4>I make this stuff up. Okay. Nineteen ninety eight, the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Republic of the Kungo. All right, eleven players from

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<v Speaker 4>one soccer team worst, This is okay. The soccer team

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<v Speaker 4>was the binadash Shadi Ta Shadi team whatever. Who cares?

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Republic of the Congo Okay, nineteen ninety eight. During

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<v Speaker 4>this soccer match, eleven players from the Tishati team were

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<v Speaker 4>all simultaneously struck by lightning, and nobody from the other team.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a fucking thing happened to him, No lightning bolt,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing going on, okay, And thirty of the fans for

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<v Speaker 4>the Tashati team were somehow got a blowback lightning thing

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<v Speaker 4>going on and suffered severe like third degree burns, and

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<v Speaker 4>none of the fans from the other team got sizzled.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a little interesting to me, okay. And this again,

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<v Speaker 4>you can google it, all right, the whole team, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole team, just that team, eleven players simultaneously struck by

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<v Speaker 4>lightning and if you remember, and then thirty of their

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<v Speaker 4>fans scorched, sizzled, burnt, roasted. Okay. And apparently there's several

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<v Speaker 4>other instances of this happening Peru November twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 4>Ohio June twenty twenty five, South Africa twenty eighteen, Sunshine Coast, Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>October twenty twenty five. So you tell me, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not even just a one off case. Several times this

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<v Speaker 4>has happened, apparently. Now this is some hoodoo voodoo the

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<v Speaker 4>democratic of the Congo that it sounds like some shit

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<v Speaker 4>that they would be doing right let's be real ritualism.

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<v Speaker 4>But it makes me think of the Brazil episode because

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<v Speaker 4>they be consorting with witch doctors who do voodoo witchcraft

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<v Speaker 4>stuff controlling the weather. That's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>they're known to be fucking with. The bitch with the

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<v Speaker 4>more gallant sorry, the young woman who may or may

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<v Speaker 4>not be on the verge of a psychotic break from

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<v Speaker 4>the SRA Part one and two. She got struck by lightning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>there was that other guy I mentioned in that episode

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<v Speaker 4>who kept getting struck by lightning. So weather manipulation is real. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>They sizzled the whole soccer team in thirty fans, so

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<v Speaker 4>be careful who you support out there, all right, might

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<v Speaker 4>not want to wear one of their jerseys to Walmart.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay if you fan, keep that shit a secret, or

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<v Speaker 4>else get hit by lightning and have more Gellon's disease

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<v Speaker 4>and shit, I don't know what to tell you. Tragic,

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<v Speaker 4>Google it, it happened. Okay. We live in a world

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<v Speaker 4>where this We live in a world where these things

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<v Speaker 4>are possible. Now, imagine being a fan of this soccer

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<v Speaker 4>team living in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and

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<v Speaker 4>be sitting Okay, on your back, patio dead frozen guy

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<v Speaker 4>falls on your back patio blood and gets everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, you know what, I think I'm gonna cheer

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<v Speaker 4>myself up by going to this soccer game. Later, your

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<v Speaker 4>whole team gets simultaneously struck by lightning and you get

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<v Speaker 4>third degree burned, scorched right in a seat. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the world we live in. It's a paranormal, supernatural, unbelievable, disgusting, gross, horrific, horrendous,

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<v Speaker 4>terrifying place to live. So watch your six enjoy this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we can enjoy the simple things in life.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got a little bit of another watch party

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<v Speaker 4>for us today. I might skip through some stuff. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>call me retarded, but I really hadn't never heard of

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<v Speaker 4>this woman before. Apparently she's a little bit infamous and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a little bit also on the verge of a

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<v Speaker 4>psychotic break I did. Now, this is why I'm skeptical

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<v Speaker 4>of this woman. Okay, because apparently she's popped up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But I still feel like it's worth hearing the whole

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<v Speaker 4>testimonial from her, Okay, and then we can decide as

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<v Speaker 4>we go along if we believe it or not. But

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<v Speaker 4>I seen this bitch on Facebook ads, because I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>scrolling through there, you know, watching mom videos and looking

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<v Speaker 4>for free furniture on Facebook marketplace, as one tends to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and she popped up on an ad trying to sell

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of hippie, dippy nonsense oil to rub on

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<v Speaker 4>your taint, to conjure spirits or something like that, some

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<v Speaker 4>blue Lotus maringa taint rub, And I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, that's that bitch from that video saying she

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<v Speaker 4>was an Siray survivor. The same, the very same bitch

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<v Speaker 4>from that video saying she was an SIRA survivor. Now

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<v Speaker 4>she's on ads for maringa taint rub. Like, what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on with this woman? She's attractive, well spoken, got a

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<v Speaker 4>vibe about her, you know what I mean. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>wondering if she might not be just like an actress

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<v Speaker 4>faking a lot of this stuff, or if maybe she

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<v Speaker 4>is telling the truth. Maybe she is an SRA survivor

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<v Speaker 4>and now she's just moved on with her life and

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<v Speaker 4>she sells blue Lotus maringa taint rub to conjure the

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<v Speaker 4>Cundalini's and the Tortolini's and whatever else behole Leni's vage

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<v Speaker 4>holtenis whatever. I don't be doing this stuff. You might,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys might know more about it. But this woman

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<v Speaker 4>popped up as like you know, on YouTube and can't

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<v Speaker 4>I watched the video or whatever, like SRA survivor. Her

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<v Speaker 4>name definitely sounds made up, okay, Her name definitely sound

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<v Speaker 4>like a porn star name, somebody who would be selling

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<v Speaker 4>Couci Tordolini rub all right. That definitely okay, matches with

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<v Speaker 4>her profile. But could this be a real person who

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<v Speaker 4>really went through some traumatic stuff and just moved on

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<v Speaker 4>with their life or is this someone who has been

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<v Speaker 4>planted to throw some weirdness in with the authentic, genuine

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<v Speaker 4>SRA Survivor testimonies to kind of disc credit them, like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh look at this, you know, bitch, she's saying all

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<v Speaker 4>this whatever whatever, this that, and the third thing, this

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<v Speaker 4>is wild. This is crazy. This is the most bizarre shit.

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 4>And if she's lying, they're probably all lying. So take

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<v Speaker 4>that for what you will. Maybe she is planted and

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<v Speaker 4>staged or whatever. But I do think it's interesting and

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<v Speaker 4>we can kind of unpack this together, as we go.

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<v Speaker 4>But let me sure my screen. Hang on, let me

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<v Speaker 4>pull this shit up her, because I'd be slacking. I

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<v Speaker 4>get so excited to chat with my besties, I forget

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<v Speaker 4>to pull up the videos and stuff. All right, here

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<v Speaker 4>we go, hang on, all right. The bitch name is

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<v Speaker 4>Teal Swan, okay, and she wants you to teal your

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<v Speaker 4>swan with her tordelini rub And this is the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing she'd be doing. I read all the comments.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, she's talking about all the things we know about,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody in the comments section is let's make this

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<v Speaker 4>go viral. You know, she's the strongest woman I know,

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<v Speaker 4>and this and that. So people are really buying into

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff. And I definitely think she has an interesting

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<v Speaker 4>story to tell. Whether or not all the bits and

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<v Speaker 4>pieces biscuits and gravy are true remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's watch it together. We'll unpack it, discuss it

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<v Speaker 4>and go from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have my checks and everything?

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<v Speaker 6>just for the my check and so we have it

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<v Speaker 6>on record, kind of how you say and spell your name?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's Teals one T E A L. S.

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<v Speaker 6>W a m okay, and I'm just gonna have you

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<v Speaker 6>just kind of tell me your story from six years

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Well I should probably start before then,

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<v Speaker 1>because this all started basically when I was really young,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started exhibiting these types of abilities basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether somebody does or doesn't believe in extra

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<v Speaker 1>sensory abilities or psychic behavior or else being able to

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<v Speaker 1>heal someone with energy stuff like this, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in the world who do believe in

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and a lot of religions that believe in

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Right, So when I was younger, I would

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<v Speaker 1>put my hands on people and they'd experience healings, or

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<v Speaker 1>I would talk to them from the standpoint of their

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<v Speaker 1>dead relatives stuff like that. And I was also able

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<v Speaker 1>to see the org field what I now understand is

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<v Speaker 1>the ORG field. So I would be talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>about things that I technically shouldn't know at that age,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a little off putting to my parents,

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<v Speaker 7>If I wanted to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>To have this kid who they were really scientific, not

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<v Speaker 1>even religious people, and so to have this kid with

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<v Speaker 1>all these these interesting abilities was like WHOA, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do with this. So it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that because it's the real basis for why

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<v Speaker 1>I was brought in like I was. So my parents

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up being offered a job, a wilderness for

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<v Speaker 1>stranger job in this like rural area in between Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>and Utah, and I don't know if they were super

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<v Speaker 1>aware of just how intensely religious everything was in the

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<v Speaker 1>about whether it would be a major impact on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when I got here as a kid, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really socialized yet, so you don't know what's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not normal. So I would just do what it

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<v Speaker 1>was normal, and I'd say, go to class. My first

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<v Speaker 1>few times going to school was not good. I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the teacher and I'd be like having converse

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<v Speaker 1>with her about something that her dead father that had

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say to her, or you know, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just so happens that the most dominant religion

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<v Speaker 1>in the area that I grew up in is Mormonism,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Mormonism they believe in this concept that all

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<v Speaker 1>of the God given abilities, which are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I'm demonstrating extra sensory abilities, the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>heal people, the ability to give blessings, stuff like that

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<v Speaker 1>that is seen as a gift from God to Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and from Joseph Smith to men in the church.

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<v Speaker 1>And so women technically could not hold priesthood, which are

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<v Speaker 1>something that abused these abilities. So if a woman is

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<v Speaker 1>exhibiting these abilities, they believed at the times that it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was a gift of the devil.

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<v Speaker 1>So it like raised the hackles on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the neck of a lot of people that were in

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<v Speaker 1>this really small community that was near us, and they

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<v Speaker 1>you know how word travels at church in small towns.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like this person told that person, told this person,

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<v Speaker 1>told that person, and it was like mass ostracization. They

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<v Speaker 1>did not want me playing with their children. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want me going into their houses, they didn't want any

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<v Speaker 1>interaction whatsoever. They weren't seeing my parents at sacrament meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>They were super upset about that. So after aggressively trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convert my family in it not working, they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gave up and they pulled the turn the other

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<v Speaker 1>cheek type of mentality. But the issue there is that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got all these splinter groups off of the Mormon religion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got the FLDS, which is what most people

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<v Speaker 1>are super familiar with their fundamental Mormons. They believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of polygamy. Now there are other splinter groups.

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<v Speaker 1>One of these is a cult which operates in Utah

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<v Speaker 1>and Idaho mainly, and it's called the Blood Covenant. They

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<v Speaker 1>believe in blood atonement. So they've attached to that doctrine

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way that the FLDS have attached to

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of polygamy and blood atonement basically, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something which Brigham Young was obsessive about. He would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this on lots of his pulpit speeches. You can

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<v Speaker 1>look it up if you want to. Blood atonement is

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<v Speaker 1>basically the idea that there are some sins which can't

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<v Speaker 1>be paid for by the death of Christ. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be paid for by the blood of man. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a really famous pulpit speech where he basically stood

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<v Speaker 1>up in front of the people and said, if your

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor commits adultery, if you love him, you will kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>So this particular group has latched onto those teachings and

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<v Speaker 1>has used it to justify all kinds of things, which

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<v Speaker 1>is of course at an issue in all religions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's up to so much interpretation that let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got your basic sociopath or psychopath. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>can infiltrate a church basically, and they can use those

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<v Speaker 1>teachings to justify what they're doing. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are in this Blood Covenant group are

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<v Speaker 1>like super deviant, like psychotically deviant. And so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, like, for example, there was a family that

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up around in this cult where it's the

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<v Speaker 1>kids would steal something from like the cupboards, and like

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<v Speaker 1>a kid tries to go take a cookie, they would

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<v Speaker 1>slit their wrists and lead them over a sink for

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<v Speaker 1>like an allotted amount of time. And that was just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal punishment. So it's the Mormon version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic penitentes, where in suffering and in bleeding you will

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<v Speaker 1>basically be absolved at your sins. So I was caught

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<v Speaker 1>on the radar of this particular cult group, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly how that happened, but there was a

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<v Speaker 1>member of that particular group who actually knew my mother

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<v Speaker 1>from previous to when I was born, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know any of that, by the way, So at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like four or five, and I didn't know any

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<v Speaker 1>of that background story. But my mother was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get me around friends because I had none. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there was a girl who was in my kindergarten class,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was, and she thought, Okay, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good opportunity to get her around them because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not Mormon. She didn't know what they were, but they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't Mormon, So let's get her to go over to

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<v Speaker 1>this girl's house and see if she can make friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a wickedly shy child, so she brought me

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<v Speaker 1>over to that house. And the first time that I

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<v Speaker 1>was when I found out that her father was actually

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<v Speaker 1>part of a Satanic cult. So this is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>separate cult which exists in this area, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what rank he held in this particular Satanic religion,

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<v Speaker 1>but that first night that we went over there and

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<v Speaker 1>I had my first sleep over with her, the father

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<v Speaker 1>was taking pornographic photographs of the daughter and I in

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<v Speaker 1>his little basement area now this is it's like he

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<v Speaker 1>liked satomasochistic porn. So when I was down there, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a man who walked down the stairs who would

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<v Speaker 1>of course turn into this person who pulled me into everything,

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<v Speaker 1>my keeper they call it. Who was this man who

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<v Speaker 1>knew my mother previously? But he basically came downstairs with

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<v Speaker 1>these buckets full of cowblood that he had purchased from

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<v Speaker 1>or I assume purchased maybe was just given from the

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<v Speaker 1>slaughterhouse which is in town in hiram Utah. And the

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<v Speaker 1>father then put the blood over us and then kept

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<v Speaker 1>taking pictures of us kissing each other and touching each

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<v Speaker 1>other things like that. So I assumed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>selling those photographs or whatever else. And then probably two

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<v Speaker 1>or three times more I went with her to satanic

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<v Speaker 1>rituals that were taking place with those people.

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<v Speaker 7>I had no idea what the hell was going on

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<v Speaker 7>with them. I was super shy.

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<v Speaker 1>That father was not like as deviant as the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that I would meet. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing the really confusing back and forth stuff with his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter a lot, where one minute he would be doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, the next minute he'd be like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful, you know I love you, right, this is

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<v Speaker 1>our little secret. So but the real reason I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you this whole thing because that is where I got

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<v Speaker 1>on the radars of this particular guy who would become

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much my number one abuser and what they call

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<v Speaker 1>a keeper in the group was.

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<v Speaker 7>Just this man.

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<v Speaker 1>So that summer he ended up targeting me. I was walking,

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<v Speaker 1>not walking, I was riding my little Huffey bike sort

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<v Speaker 1>of down below my house in a Mormon steakhouse building parking,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had come up behind me, basically drugged me

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<v Speaker 1>off the Houffey bike, took me into this steakhouse, and

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<v Speaker 1>then pushed me down to the ground on my face

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<v Speaker 1>and I was raped by him. That was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I was ever raped and my first interaction with

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<v Speaker 1>that man specifically, and he picks me up, put me

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<v Speaker 1>back on the Hffy bike and rode me back towards

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Now I was completely convinced at this point

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<v Speaker 1>that I had been in trouble for riding my bike

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere that I wasn't supposed to be. I knew Mormons

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<v Speaker 1>hated us like we were no Mormon. Of course I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be around the stakehouse, but it's just like sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are the fucking parents?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I crazy or something? Or did I just have

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<v Speaker 4>like a hyper vigilant mother. If I went and spent

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<v Speaker 4>the fucking night at a friend's house, she called me

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<v Speaker 4>at the friend's house, what you do? And how are Yeah?

418
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Is the dad weird things like this? Okay? And when

419
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>she'd either pick me up at the friend's house or

420
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 4>if I got dropped off, the first thing she'd say

421
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 4>is what did you guys do? Did you have a

422
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:20.319
<v Speaker 4>good time? You know, fill me in on all the details.

423
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 4>Did you braid each other's fucking hair? Did you fucking

424
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 4>do makeup parties? What movies did you watch? What did

425
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 4>you do? Okay? Where are the pair runs? Okay? And

426
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 4>I get it. She looks a little bit older than me,

427
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 4>but probably still a nineties kid. Okay, maybe late eighties

428
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 4>early nineties kid. Parents were a little bit more relaxed

429
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Speaker 4>back then. But nobody's asking. Nobody's asking, Like if I

430
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 4>would have come home from a friend's house and said, mom,

431
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, we your blood on each other and we

432
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 4>got naked and Jessica's dad took pictures? No, no, okay,

433
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 4>and there would have been at least a phone call

434
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 4>at least one phone call from my mom that night. Hey, Julia,

435
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 4>your mom's on the phone. She wants to talk to you.

436
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Every single time I spent the night at a friend's house, okay,

437
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 4>and most of the time she would say, I think

438
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 4>their house is dirty. They need to come spend the

439
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 4>night with us. Or I don't like you know, I

440
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 4>don't like Whitney's dad. He gives me the creeps. She

441
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 4>needs to come spend the night over here, all right?

442
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, is it just me or is it

443
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 4>not weird? Sometimes, like you hear these stories and you

444
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 4>think to yourself, where the fuck was your mom mean that?

445
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was my fault, of course at

446
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that protected point, but I tried to ride my Hoffy

447
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 1>bike home.

448
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 7>It didn't work.

449
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I pulled it out of the side of the road

450
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and then ran into the field that was by it

451
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't. I was really torn up. I was bleeding,

452
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I couldn't ride my Hofey bike. So I

453
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>ran off into this side of this field and just

454
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>sat there like in complete shock, and my whole reality

455
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 1>fell to pieces, because up until that point, it's like

456
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you sort of assume that your parents are going to

457
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 1>be these omniscient, ominipent beings that pick you up before

458
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you were about to fall off a cliff or something.

459
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the real moment that your childhood in is

460
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and you realize that they're not there. Ever, you know,

461
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 1>not only are they not there, they can't protect you

462
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of things. A lot of things are

463
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot bigger than you when you're you know.

464
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 7>Six years older, five or sick over.

465
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 1>It was in Yeah, So from from six years old

466
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 1>on this is when it really got intense because he

467
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>figured out he managed like a lot of like real

468
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 1>sociopathic people do. He managed to figure out enough about

469
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>my family and enough about what I was doing that

470
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>he cornered me at a horse lesson that I was

471
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>working at. He was a veterinarian, so he worked actually

472
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>with the horses that I was taking lessons on. And

473
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so I was riding around one day and got off

474
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of the horse and my instructor left me alone for

475
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, walked into the house and here is

476
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 1>this guy. So I'm watching him tie this slit knot

477
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>which they tie with horses, and I was super fascinated

478
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>with it at that age, and I was kind of like,

479
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember this feeling of paralysis coming over me looking

480
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 1>at this guy, remembering like what it was that he

481
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>had done, you know. But he turned over when nobody

482
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>was around because she had gone inside and don't remember

483
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 1>what to get. But he took my throat, pushing me

484
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>up against the side of the building and said, you

485
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what your life is. You have no idea

486
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>who I am, but i'm your father and your mother

487
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 1>is a whore. And if you say anything about the

488
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that we have talked to each other, your whole

489
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>entire family's gonna die. And he's like, you better look

490
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>out for me, a girl.

491
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 7>It's basically he said.

492
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, and how old were you?

493
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I was six of that okay, but it was in

494
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 1>between a sort of like before I started first grade. Oh,

495
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets super like super complicated because

496
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>of the nature of this particular man. But I was

497
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>like from that moment on because he cornered me like that.

498
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And when you were little, like we got to understand this.

499
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>When you're little, you have no reason to disbelieve an

500
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>adult none. So if a guy says he's gonna kill

501
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 1>your family, he's gonna hear a family. There's no there's

502
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 1>no like if ans or butts about that. So this

503
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>guy had already managed to figure out that that my

504
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>family and I were not a good match.

505
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 7>We'll put it that way.

506
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, people would love me to say

507
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>my parents were fabulous. I just got sort of taken,

508
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 1>but the reality is is that I didn't get along

509
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>as my family and especially my mother. I was like

510
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>majorly ostracized in the family that I grew up in.

511
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 1>So sociopaths often like to capitalize on that, like the

512
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>kid that doesn't fit in, or the kid no one

513
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 1>relates to. They're like usually really quiet and sort of off.

514
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 7>To the corn.

515
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good venue for them to kind of

516
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>get in between the parents and the kid, which is

517
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he did. So when he told me that

518
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 1>he would be there, that was like I really look

519
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 1>at that as sort of the end of my whole childhood,

520
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>because from that moment on, it's like it doesn't matter

521
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>whether I'm going on a hike with my family or

522
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.079
<v Speaker 1>a camping trip, or whether I'm at school, there's always

523
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a part of me that's like, where is he going

524
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to be? It's that scary sort of he's all around

525
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and could be anywhere at any point type of thing

526
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 1>which drives you nuts when you're in this kind of

527
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 1>a situation. So that's when he started systematically without my

528
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>parents' knowledge, taking me places, like he'd take me from

529
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>dance class. Sometimes he takes me from school. And we

530
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>have to understand too. When I went to school, it

531
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 1>was not like it is now. You don't have to

532
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to like take pictures of people who

533
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>could pick your kid up. Nobody knew about this stuff,

534
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>especially not in the bigger cities. I mean, everything hits

535
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>rural towns like five years too late or ten years

536
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>too late. So nobody really thought that this was a possibility.

537
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 1>And so what would happen is he sent me to

538
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>school after the first time, of course, of like just

539
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 1>calling the school and saying Tilney's to meet us outside,

540
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and then me walking outside having a behin there. Instead

541
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of my parents, he would send me to school with

542
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>in my lunch box with these notes written from my

543
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>parents that I was to hand in after they took role,

544
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and they would say Tilneys to come to gymnastics class

545
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>or something, and we're going to pick her up at

546
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>this time, and my little elementary school was on the

547
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>grounds of a college campus. Edith Bowen was where I

548
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>went to, and so they couldn't monitor like where people

549
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 1>were or weren't. There's adults all the time wandering in

550
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and out of the children because it was on a

551
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>college campus, so it wasn't like there would be any

552
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>red flags if there was a random person that showed up.

553
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 1>And so he would say park his truck and then

554
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I would get out, and they'd be like, gen, need

555
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>someone walk you out. I'd say no, and so I'd

556
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>go out and I'd get in his car and then

557
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he'd have me gone for the whole day and then

558
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>bring me back and drop me off before my parents

559
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>would pick me up. So that was a routine that

560
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>went on for a while. Then he stole me out

561
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of bed a few times as well. Before he trained

562
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>me to wake up, which was quite easy for him

563
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to do. He just employed like your basic pav laws

564
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 1>response stuff. So I would wake up three twenty two am,

565
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>walk out to the end of the driveway and he'd

566
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>pick me up and we'd go do these cult rituals.

567
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 1>So this is so I'll explain this person the context

568
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of my childhood isn't going to make sense unless I

569
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>do that. Because the particular man who was what they

570
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>call my keeper in this group had multiple personality issues,

571
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like big ones where one minute you'd call him by

572
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 1>one name and he wouldn't even know who you were

573
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to, you know, and then he'd have these So

574
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>basically he had these. Like a personality which I would

575
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>often call Doc was like the all knowing the one

576
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 1>that most people in the society saw. And he was

577
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like a really educated, super charismatic or typical sociopath type

578
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>of a person who could have just pulled one on anybody.

579
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 1>He was really friendly, really charming, super handsome, So that

580
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>was that personality. The other personality, which he called Eggniver ironically,

581
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 1>was like super evil and was part of these Satanic groups.

582
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>So here we have this dichotomy. So you've got the

583
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 1>multiple personalities with this person. And depending on which personality

584
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>he had, he belonged to this group or this group,

585
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 1>he belonged to two cults. One cult was that Satanic cult.

586
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 1>The other cult was the Blood Covenant cult. Now it

587
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 1>gets ironic is that they're against each other. This is

588
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>where if you really want to know about some messed

589
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>up stuff that happens when you're too bored in a

590
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>rural town and have some issues. The Blood Covenant cult

591
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take the opinion.

592
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 4>Now, this shit is what I'm talking about. You know,

593
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 4>when people are lying, the story seems to like feel

594
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 4>scripted and shit. And this is a lot of detail,

595
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 4>right he would have had split personality, and he belonged

596
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 4>to two Warren colts, and he was this guy to

597
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 4>this cult and this guy to this I mean, it's

598
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 4>getting at the horseback riding and stuff, the notes for

599
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 4>this to get out of school and stuff. It does

600
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 4>seem a little detailed and specific. So I'm gonna say

601
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 4>points towards the truth on this, points towards her being

602
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 4>a fake, staged porn star Cuchi Rubs selling psychotic woman

603
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 4>the name Teal Swan. She's got horrible extensions in right now,

604
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 4>some kind of Pirates of the Caribbean shirt on wherever

605
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 4>she's at right now is giving me the creeps. Why

606
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 4>would you paint all your walls white like this, have

607
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 4>a random two by four in the background in some

608
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 4>grandma desk. They need work on their background.

609
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>But let's continue and turn the other cheek they don't

610
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>agree with that. What they believe is that it's your

611
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>direct job to rid the earth of evil. So they're

612
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>aware that there are Satanic groups that operate in the

613
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>towns that they're living in. So what they do is

614
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>they use somebody that's part of the group to infiltrate

615
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>the Satanic group so that they can hold counter rituals.

616
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.800
<v Speaker 7>So let's say that in Satanic people have like if

617
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 7>you look at.

618
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Their calendar year, it's at least once or twice a

619
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>month they have some kind of holiday. So what they'll do,

620
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>say if they have like a Black Sabbath day, is

621
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that they the next day, the Blood Covenant group will

622
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 1>will like hold it return back to the Light of Christ.

623
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 7>Type of ritual.

624
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>So and it's like, here you have mainstream Mormonism and

625
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 1>mainstream society, and they're completely unaware of these things that

626
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 1>are happening on the undercurrent here of these two rival

627
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>groups basically that are more than aware of each other.

628
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 7>So the man I was with.

629
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Was attending both of these ceremonies but saying to the

630
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Blood Covenant group that he was just doing the Satanic

631
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>group stuff for the sake of holding counter riginals. So

632
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, good, yeah, you can continue to do

633
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that because it benefits us. But from my perspective, he

634
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 1>actually liked that and was really participating with it. So

635
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that's where it got super complicated.

636
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 7>But over the.

637
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Course of so that was when I was six. It

638
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 1>was when I was infiltrating. I infiltrated these groups with him.

639
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>He was using me in the Satanic group as look

640
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>at her abilities. She's got all these amazing abilities. You

641
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 1>can use them to invoke the devil and demons and

642
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>things like that. And then simultaneously I'm getting like tortured

643
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>by the Blood Covenant group because it was their idea

644
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that they could get the demon out of me. That

645
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was their whole philosophy. The reason that I could do

646
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is that my body was taken over by

647
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a demon and that when I was two, I kicked

648
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that spirit out and I took it over basically, and

649
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that if they could get this demon out, that that

650
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>spirit would come back.

651
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 7>That was their whole thing. So they went to.

652
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Work like bleeding me, doing all kinds of horrific stuff

653
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to try to get me to come back to Christ.

654
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So my childhood from age what I consider six, even

655
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 1>though technically it started beforehand, but it was when I

656
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>really consider like the end of my childhood, when I

657
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>got brought into them and I really didn't belong to

658
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>my parents anymore. All the way to nineteen, I was

659
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>with these groups, and specifically with this man. Now, when

660
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you are part of a lot of these groups, and

661
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking Satanic specifically, what they'll do is they'll

662
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 1>assign somebody like me. They call me an oracle. An

663
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.079
<v Speaker 1>oracles is a role where somebody has the ability to

664
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>access the underworld or whatever. So we oracles are not

665
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 1>actually allowed to take care of ourselves at all. Now,

666
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>having grown up, I can see that this is just

667
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 1>a ploy, of course, to keep us completely.

668
00:42:58.119 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 7>Dependent, unable to leave.

669
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>But we are not able to cook for ourselves, we're

670
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>not able to clean for ourselves, we're not able to

671
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do any self care type of behavior. Instead, we're assigned

672
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 1>a keeper. Of course, it was obvious, let's just give

673
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>her to the person who brought her to us, right,

674
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 1>which is this particular guy, and he becomes the keeper role.

675
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>So his job is to make sure that I am

676
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 1>where I'm supposed to be. He's the one driving me,

677
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>he's the one feeding me. He's the one that's making

678
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>sure things are the way they are now. The reason

679
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>that my childhood is a lot more complicated than most

680
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 1>is because I didn't get outright taken away from my

681
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>parents and kept somewhere without their knowledge. What happened is

682
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that he ended up when I the older that I got.

683
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>When I was eight years old, my parents decided to

684
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>get me a horse. So there was his perfect opportunity

685
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to come into the family and like really weasel his

686
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>way in there so that knowledgeably they would give me

687
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>to him. Basically, he was like, Okay, I'll be your

688
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>vet for your horse, and I'll teach her everything she

689
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>needs to know about horses. And my parents, you know,

690
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 1>in their defense, they were like, I don't know what

691
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to do with this kid. She's obviously miserable. We have

692
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>no idea why she's got these abilities. We don't understand,

693
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't really relate to her, and so if we

694
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>can find somebody that could help her with something, then

695
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>let's just do that. And so, thinking that it would

696
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>be like a mentorship, they allowed me to go on

697
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 1>weekends with him up to his house, or on rounds

698
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>during the day.

699
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 7>Stuff like that. Thinking the whole time that you know,

700
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 7>at least somebody knows how to help her.

701
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But he was creating the very condition that he said

702
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.559
<v Speaker 1>that he was solving. Basically, Yeah, so that's that's.

703
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 7>How we'll start. I don't know what else to say.

704
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the sort of issues they're like, there's so

705
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 1>many details you're going over like thirteen years basically of

706
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>really horrific shit.

707
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 7>There's so many, so many things that happened.

708
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It's like hard for me to know exactly which ones

709
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>people want to hear about and chronologically lay them out.

710
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 6>So you can keep going, I mean, all the way

711
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 6>Upstrough when you got out and whatever you're comfortable talking about.

712
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 6>I know you said that he took you to his house.

713
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 6>When what we I mean, what sort of things were

714
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 6>happening there?

715
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, first time I went to his house, my parents

716
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed me my first time when I was eight years

717
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 1>old with my horse. So we went up to his

718
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.599
<v Speaker 1>house and it was a super rainy day and we

719
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>ended up that night going on this horse ride in

720
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the rain, and he was training these two horses and

721
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>he was super sadistic, like really really sadistic, so he

722
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 1>thought it was super funny even though I was petrified,

723
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>even though it was a horse freak. I was super

724
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>petrified at that age of like horses being so small.

725
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.519
<v Speaker 1>So I was riding this horse that I had just

726
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>barely got for my birthday for the very first time,

727
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and he had this super insane horse that was just

728
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>barely being trained, who was a twin And with twin horses,

729
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>if you separate the mount basically they throw fits and

730
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they try to get back to the other one. So

731
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was super funny, like to like let

732
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 1>it go and let it run up on the back

733
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 1>of my horse. So when he did that, my horse

734
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 1>steps over this embankment, which is like this huge drop off,

735
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 1>and I had this enormous horse fall basically where I

736
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>fell down this embankment and looked up to watch my

737
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>horse fall back over onto her back into a somersault backwards,

738
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and of course he comes down.

739
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 7>He starts yelling.

740
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>He was a real sort of Western Bravado type of

741
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a person. There was no gentleness about.

742
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 7>Him at all.

743
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>So he stood over me and he was like, you

744
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get back on that horse right now. I'm shivering, the

745
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>horse is shaking. I feel paralyzed. Can't do it because

746
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it. He threw me down on the

747
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 1>floor and then he stepped on both of my arms

748
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 1>and actually ended up paralyine fracturing them. So I ended

749
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 1>up getting me back on my horse rode to the house.

750
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Later that night he ended up raping me. He had

751
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a wife, ironically, who was not there.

752
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 7>Then I have no idea where he was.

753
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 1>And then as punishment, I was put down in the basement,

754
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 1>which was like this little cement.

755
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 7>It was like a cellar.

756
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just a cement part of his house basically, and

757
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like it was common for him not to let me

758
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>do normal things like sleep in beds. My place that

759
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I could sleep was in the bathtub with no blankets,

760
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and he would make me eat out of the dog

761
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>bulls and drink out of the dog bulls. I wasn't

762
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>allowed to pee or anything inside. I had to go

763
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>outside for that. So that was that that day. When

764
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 1>I went up there first too, he ended up showing

765
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>me these polaroid pictures, which is where it got really creepy.

766
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So this man actually killed children, And what he would

767
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 1>do in his drawer of his office is he kept

768
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a polaroid camera and with every kid that he killed,

769
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.639
<v Speaker 1>he would keep a stack of the exact same positions

770
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that he would take a picture of every kid in.

771
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.159
<v Speaker 1>So one of them was like, you had to be

772
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>looking at the camera with your eyes up like that

773
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>because he liked the whites of the eyes because that

774
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>looked super innocent. And then he'd take a profile to

775
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>both sides and he'd take a straight up and then

776
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>he would basically he take this stack.

777
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 7>Of polaroids and he'd keep them.

778
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So he walked me out to the back and I

779
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't see this particular murder take place like I saw

780
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 1>other ones happen. But he took me out to his

781
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>back place, and he had a lawn that sort of

782
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>abudded this enormous wilderness, and there was like a piece

783
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of earth that was obviously dug up. And he gave

784
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 1>me this polaroid stack of pictures of this little like

785
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I would probably guess she was a

786
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 1>five year old like little blonde girl. And he told

787
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>me basically that he was keeping her safe.

788
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 7>This is where it is. So that was his dysfunction.

789
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>His dysfunction was basically that by having these kids, especially girls,

790
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 1>in his property, that he could keep them safe that way.

791
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm sitting there looking at this picture, looking

792
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>at the grave, looking at the picture. Now, I can't

793
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you that I know for a fact she was there,

794
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't witness it, but having seen him kill

795
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>other children after that, I have no reason to doubt

796
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>that that was. What I was seeing was basically these

797
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>polaroids of a kid he had killed and then buried

798
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>in his backyard. So you know, that was my first

799
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 1>really lovely introduction to him. Then very quickly after that,

800
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 1>he started in with the intentional programming. So most people

801
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 1>who are part of these groups, they get into mental programming,

802
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and most of the mental programming routines that they carry

803
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>out they have found from these documents, which are mostly

804
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>written in German. I don't know where they've gotten them.

805
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But one of my first programming sessions was performed in

806
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 1>a veterinary office. I walked in there and it was

807
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not just my keeper, it was also another guy who

808
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 1>had his face was covered in black mesh like he

809
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't want me to know who he was. Later I

810
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 1>did meet him and know exactly who he was. Because

811
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 1>the older you get in these groups, now suddenly you

812
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>become part of the perpetrator circle and you're now working

813
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on younger children. So at that beginning, I didn't know

814
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 1>who he was and he just had that black stocking,

815
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and so what he was doing was a basic bonding program.

816
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 1>So if you look at these these mental programming sessions

817
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 1>that they do on children, it's a very it seems complicated,

818
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's actually more easy than it. So it's basically

819
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a twelve program psych One of the very first things

820
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 1>you want to do programming a child is to bond

821
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>them to the perpetrator. So what you do is you

822
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>induce a trauma. So the way that they like to

823
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 1>do that is to use electric shocks, which is sipper easy.

824
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 1>You just buy a kit basically. So I was sitting

825
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>there that first day. They are putting these white pads

826
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 1>with a little gel underneath them all over my body

827
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and then they turn on the electric shocks, so you

828
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>get traumatized.

829
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 7>I pissed myself.

830
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like being electrocute to this pretty much the most

831
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>unbearable thing you can imagine. So that induces the state

832
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of trauma in the system. And then what this man

833
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.519
<v Speaker 1>was instructing the guy to do is you're not allowed

834
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to touch someone like me who's being programmed. If you're

835
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 1>the perpetrator, unless you're doing it to specifically bond the

836
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 1>person to you. So the way you do that is

837
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>by becoming in like the savior. So the only point

838
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 1>at which this man was allowed to show me physical

839
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>affection is when I was in a state of trauma.

840
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.639
<v Speaker 1>So he induces the trauma with that, and then he

841
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>tells this guy, Mike.

842
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 7>Keeper to hold me.

843
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's very bizarre sensation, even though this person

844
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 1>is the one that's traumatizing you. Simultaneously, it's like the

845
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.199
<v Speaker 1>relief feeling you feel when somebody hugs you, regardless of

846
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 1>who they are, when you're going through that kind of trauma.

847
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like this unbelievable chemical bond almost that goes on

848
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in your body. So I remember that feeling of like

849
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>intense relief and just holding onto him after that was happening,

850
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and so that really creates in the mind this circuitry

851
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 1>where I love this guy. This guy is the person

852
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to follow around, and it's like it's we're

853
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 1>past love at this point. It's like an excessive type

854
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>of dependence. And you'll watch this a lot with victims

855
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 1>who have been traumatized and we deliberately in groups, will

856
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>program for it to create a scenario where the person

857
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is like trauma bonded to the very person who's creating

858
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the issue. You can observe this in animals even so,

859
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like you know, the dog who gets kicked by their

860
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 1>owner is like the one who's underneath them wagging their tail,

861
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and they're constantly obsessed with whether they're going to get approval,

862
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>whether they're going to get approval. So if you're if

863
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 1>your life rests in somebody's hands, you your life is

864
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 1>going to be about one thing, one thing only, and

865
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 1>that's finding approval from that person.

866
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 7>It's it. So there you have trauma bonding.

867
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So my relationship with this man from that point on

868
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>turn turned to this like excessive attachment. I was obsessed

869
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 1>with getting his approval no matter what, because my life

870
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 1>is in his hands. And then so we were attending

871
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 1>rituals we're doing I mean, he was doing messed up

872
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>stuff with me on his own, but we were attending rituals.

873
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Also rituals where they did murder children and animals. Animals

874
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is what they did, like on your average holiday, but

875
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>on the big ones, which they call black masses, which

876
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 1>is probably what the public would like to know about

877
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.079
<v Speaker 1>most where Basically, it's where basically, and it's just mostly

878
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Satanic people. These covens of like thirteen usually because they

879
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>believe in thirteen silver moons. In a year, there's thirteen

880
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>full moon, so it's usually thirteen members of a Satanic coven.

881
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.559
<v Speaker 7>They'll get together with other covens in.

882
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>The area for these big black masses they call them,

883
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and those are on specific days throughout the year.

884
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 7>So on a few of.

885
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Those I watched them actually kill children, and that's when

886
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 1>we really got into the human sacrifice thing, which is

887
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.199
<v Speaker 1>what most people want to interview me about, you know,

888
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>because that's like so abhorrent and most people can't even

889
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 1>imagine that going on. So when I got older, I

890
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>found out how they actually found these children. When I

891
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 1>was younger, they would use me and other kids who

892
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 1>are part of the groups to entice these children into

893
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 1>the car. It's a very stereotypical act. All you do

894
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is you case the neighborhood, which is easy because they're

895
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>bored and looking for ways to excite themselves and they're

896
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>really statistic fetishes anyways, So they case the neighborhoods for

897
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 1>kids that are not being watched. Their number one favorite

898
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 1>group is children who are part of the foster care system.

899
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 1>So there's a loophole in our foster care system in

900
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 1>this United States and West specifically. I don't know if

901
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it's super bad out east, but out West as a

902
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 1>really bad loophole where basically, if you want to foster

903
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>children because they're so overrun with children to foster, then

904
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll give you the kid and you get your monthly

905
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>stipen check. And so there was a lot of these

906
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 1>families who, especially in the Idaho area that I met,

907
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>who they foster children, not because they really want to

908
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 1>foster children, but they want that check every month. So

909
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>these parents are it's like really horrific they get these

910
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>kids from the foster care system.

911
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 4>This is some sick shit right here, because I just

912
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 4>sold my I was selling a bunch of stuff on

913
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Facebook marketplace, right and I just sold my baby's crib

914
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 4>to this lady. She hit me up on Facebook. I

915
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 4>had it posted for like eighty bucks and she hit

916
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 4>me with this sob story, and you know, I got

917
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 4>a delicate's heart. Okay, you know, I was just not

918
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 4>in the mood to be hearing about this sad shit,

919
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:02.440
<v Speaker 4>and it just killed me. She was like, I'm fostering

920
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 4>six four month old essentially what we would call crack babies,

921
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and I just really need a crib. I'm feeding my

922
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 4>baby right now, his little bottle, a little sweetie, and

923
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 4>it just I was like, oh my god, this woman

924
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 4>is literally fostering six four month old little crackheaded babies

925
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 4>and she needs a crib. She said, I can have

926
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.440
<v Speaker 4>my son come pick it up right now, would you

927
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:41.360
<v Speaker 4>take fifty dollars? And I was like, of course, Like

928
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 4>that just broke my heart. And you want to think

929
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 4>that people who sign up for that stuff, okay, people

930
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:58.800
<v Speaker 4>who would sign up for fostering six four month old

931
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 4>crackheaded babies, they would be like a saint, like, oh

932
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.880
<v Speaker 4>my god, how selfless is this person. I can barely

933
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 4>handle the one and he's not even crackheaded, okay. And

934
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.400
<v Speaker 4>then you get to hear and stuff like this. And

935
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 4>I've heard other foster people, you know, foster kids say this.

936
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Father foster families were horrorball okay, horra baal. And you

937
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 4>know they don't be looking into who's fostering these kids.

938
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 4>They I bet they don't even really do home checkings

939
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 4>and shit like that. They get their monthly stipen okay,

940
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 4>for their fosters, and that's what they They count on them,

941
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 4>a little foster stipend checks to come in and they'd

942
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:01.800
<v Speaker 4>be doing some nefarious shit because they don't love. There's

943
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.119
<v Speaker 4>no way they could be loving these kids like they

944
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:12.400
<v Speaker 4>were their own. Okay, it's not realistic and it's a shame.

945
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 4>That's really fucking fucked up and sad.

946
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So they tell them, I don't want to be watching you,

947
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 1>so just come home at eight o'clock, and I don't

948
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>want you to come home before eight o'clock.

949
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 7>So they're wandering around.

950
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>They go to public school, and then between when public

951
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>school gets out at eight o'clock at night, when a're

952
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be home, they are wandering around.

953
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 7>Basically, they had nothing to do.

954
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's a prime target for these groups because they

955
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>find out these kids, they know exactly where they're walking

956
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 1>to and from school, and then when they take them,

957
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets really super messed up if

958
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you take one of these foster kids.

959
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:46.119
<v Speaker 7>I'll back up.

960
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So the foster care people, they check in on kids

961
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 1>that are being fostered, right, but their caseloads are.

962
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 7>Huge as well. So even they'll tell you we're really overrun.

963
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 1>We can't get to everybody, and like we try, but

964
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like once every six months, once every year.

965
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 1>So let's say that you're one of these families that

966
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 1>is just using that income for the foster care kids

967
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to support your family, and you don't want to lose

968
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that check. Now, if the kid disappears, bam, and you

969
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>go and you tell someone.

970
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:16.159
<v Speaker 7>Then your monthly check's not gonna come.

971
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these kids that we're getting are

972
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>from families like that, where it's like if they disappeared,

973
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna.

974
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.480
<v Speaker 7>Say anything to the government. You're kidding me.

975
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna wait to the last possible second to say, oh, well,

976
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>oh I don't know, they ran away or something. So

977
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look up at the statistics of

978
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the amount of like runaway missing children that there are

979
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>in this country, it's gonna blow your mind. I mean

980
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>children we never find again, not kids that run away

981
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in and they come back. We're talking kids that never

982
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 1>show up again. It's literally gonna blow your mind.

983
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:46.360
<v Speaker 7>So the fact that.

984
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>The country is like, wow, how does anybody not notice

985
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know, how did that mean? How

986
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 1>does that many thousands, hundreds of thousands of children go

987
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>missing every year and nobody knows? And then people are like, well,

988
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>how do people not hear these things happening? Have you

989
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>ever been to the Utah Nahol You can go ten

990
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.559
<v Speaker 1>minutes off of the side of any road and nobody

991
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 1>will hear you ever again. So this is like a

992
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>really good window that people have here in this particular

993
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>state to get away with super deviant activity. Another way

994
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 1>that they like to find these children and procure children

995
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>is by going to the illegal immigrant communities. Those are

996
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>super easy to find. Anybody who wants to hire somebody

997
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>from home depot in the morning can figure out how

998
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to find them. So what they do is they follow

999
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.320
<v Speaker 1>those kids and they take those kids also. And this

1000
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.360
<v Speaker 1>is why they take those kids. If you're an illegal

1001
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 1>immigrant and your children get taken or your child and

1002
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you go to the police office and you say my

1003
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>kid is missing, they say give me your ID now.

1004
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 1>If they find out that you're illegal, they will deport you.

1005
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So you have an option basically, as a parent who's

1006
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 1>lost a child inside this country. Either you don't say

1007
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>anything and you look by yourself for a kid that's missing,

1008
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>or you get deported to an entirely different country than

1009
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.519
<v Speaker 1>the one that your kid is now missing in. So

1010
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously most parents opt to not say anything in to

1011
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:09.599
<v Speaker 1>search by themselves. So that's basically the two biggest group

1012
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.440
<v Speaker 1>ways that they find these these children essentially that they

1013
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.519
<v Speaker 1>take in. Sometimes they'll kill them that night. Sometimes they

1014
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 1>will keep them for months at a time. And they

1015
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have like a lot some of the members will have

1016
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 1>these these lava tubes. So in Idaho they have lava

1017
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 1>tubes all over the place. And so like on private land,

1018
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not uncommon to like find something of us, like

1019
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 1>a sinkhole that's on the property. And so if it's

1020
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a big enough sinkhole, then what they'll do is they'll

1021
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.679
<v Speaker 1>keep these kids in there in animal cages, so just

1022
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like the one you'd buy like a classic German shepherd

1023
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.440
<v Speaker 1>or something, and they'll keep them in there for months,

1024
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 1>leading them up to these ritual ceremonies.

1025
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, we were used for that, which is like Heillinis.

1026
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 6>You talked about your keeper doing multiple things to you.

1027
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.039
<v Speaker 6>He raped you, he kept you in the bathtub. What

1028
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 6>else did he do to you.

1029
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:04.440
<v Speaker 1>His favorite things to do is to chase me through

1030
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 1>the woods. He was obsessed with survival stuff, and so

1031
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.199
<v Speaker 1>he played these tracking games. He called them in retrospect,

1032
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like the creepiest thing in the world to me.

1033
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 1>But when I was going through it, I was like, Oh,

1034
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>he's just doing this for my own good. He was

1035
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>teaching me how to escape demons by being completely untrackable.

1036
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So so he would like, say he'd be driving and

1037
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.039
<v Speaker 1>he'd just start counting. It was like he would switch

1038
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>into these different personalities sometimes, so he'd be driving and

1039
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:33.559
<v Speaker 1>suddenly he'd be like twenty nineteen eighteen, he'd like pull

1040
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 1>over the side of the road.

1041
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 7>And that was my key to that.

1042
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to get out of the car and

1043
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 1>then run basically, and I was supposed to evade him.

1044
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 1>And so it was like for a time period of

1045
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 1>like two or three hours, I would be trying to

1046
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.360
<v Speaker 1>run away from him while he tracked me, and if

1047
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 1>he caught me, I would get punished, like my rib

1048
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:54.119
<v Speaker 1>cage is covered in these scars, because.

1049
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 7>He would count coup.

1050
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 1>That was what he believed was some like what enemies

1051
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and the I think as Native American cultures used to

1052
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 1>do is they would count coup on somebody that they

1053
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 1>would triumph over, so I have slits in my ribcage from.

1054
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 7>Each time that he won.

1055
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Essentially those tracking games and rape was also a part

1056
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of that, but they didn't mind that as much as

1057
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 1>being like, you know, having a knife drawn across in

1058
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.760
<v Speaker 1>my rib cage. And if I got away, then I

1059
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>would get rewarded either with a tutsie roll or with

1060
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 1>a lesson, because he liked to teach me things. So

1061
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like if I got away from him and it was

1062
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.840
<v Speaker 1>two hours had gone by and he hadn't found me,

1063
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 1>he would do a whistle and I would come back,

1064
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he'd be like super congratulatory, and then he

1065
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.280
<v Speaker 1>would teach me something about quantum physics, or teach me

1066
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 1>something about what herbs I could eat outdoors if I

1067
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 1>was ever in a survival situation, or he'd teached me

1068
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 1>an extra thing about how to cover my tracks so

1069
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody knew where I was. So it's like back then,

1070
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I got really proud of myself when I would get

1071
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 1>away from him, instead of realizing that I was being

1072
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 1>chased through the woods by somebody who killed children, which

1073
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 1>is what the sort of reality is retrospects.

1074
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:06.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. No, I don't even know what to do but

1075
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.119
<v Speaker 7>laugh because it's like so messed up.

1076
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:12.159
<v Speaker 3>How many children did you watch him kill?

1077
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:18.280
<v Speaker 7>I can remember well him specifically, not the group of five.

1078
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 6>See you you physically watched him kill five. How many

1079
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 6>did the group did you witness?

1080
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Probably seven over the course of my life, I think, yeah,

1081
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I haven't counted them exactly.

1082
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 3>But there were a significant amount.

1083
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1084
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 3>And this wasn't just a we're going to shoot you

1085
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 3>and get it over. What there was pain.

1086
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:46.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you want to go into detail of

1087
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:48.800
<v Speaker 6>how this happened, you're want to welcome to but talk

1088
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 6>to me a little bit about what you witnessed.

1089
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Well. With him, it was always it was always the

1090
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 1>same scenario when he killed boys. I didn't watch him

1091
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 1>kill girls. I don't think.

1092
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:03.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I remember when I watched him killed boys. What

1093
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 7>it was was that he would get them off.

1094
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:06.119
<v Speaker 1>The side of the road and then he would bring

1095
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 1>them to a house or another location, and then he

1096
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>would have the boys kiss me, almost like he was

1097
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 1>getting off, so he'd be jacking off all he was

1098
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 1>watching the little boy do whatever he was doing with me,

1099
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and then it was like something would snap, and he

1100
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:20.480
<v Speaker 1>would go into this completely other mode of like jealousy,

1101
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 1>rage and so as if he was mad that the

1102
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 1>boys were touching even though he was the one that

1103
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 1>told them to.

1104
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:27.920
<v Speaker 7>He would grab them and like brutally beat.

1105
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Them to death, or in one occasion, he hacked them

1106
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.360
<v Speaker 1>to death with a small axe.

1107
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.679
<v Speaker 7>That was him on his own. With the ritual group,

1108
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 7>they're not like that. It's not like a.

1109
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Hodgepodge emotionally induced type of the thing. It's more like

1110
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what's creepy about the group is it's more like there's

1111
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>zero emotion involved in it, where their number one way

1112
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.320
<v Speaker 1>is to do it on ritual bonfire. So they would

1113
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:53.719
<v Speaker 1>have in like this black mass I'll tell you one

1114
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of them, because this is pretty much what it was

1115
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like most of the time. So we were in Idaho

1116
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>wilderness right outside of this I guess if you go

1117
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.239
<v Speaker 1>from Preston, Idaho and you drive up this side canyon,

1118
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.679
<v Speaker 1>you're in this huge aspen grove. And so we were

1119
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 1>up there, probably five minutes walk from one of the

1120
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 1>main roads that was winding through that particular area, and

1121
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 1>we were all brought to this place where people were

1122
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.000
<v Speaker 1>wearing these gold masks with like purple robes, and then

1123
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 1>some people were wearing black masks or blaming black robes

1124
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 1>with white masks. So they're all standing in this grove

1125
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than just the coven that I had

1126
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.559
<v Speaker 1>been introduced to. It was probably three or four covens,

1127
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:38.880
<v Speaker 1>so I would say in total, probably forty something people

1128
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.280
<v Speaker 1>were at this particular gathering.

1129
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 7>So we're standing there.

1130
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:44.719
<v Speaker 1>They're doing like a chanting, so they're around the circle

1131
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 1>and they're reading I guess from Old Tide, no idea

1132
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:52.280
<v Speaker 1>what language it was. Most of them didn't explain these

1133
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 1>types of things to me when I was a kid.

1134
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 7>I just was watching it.

1135
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm standing there and through the woods come these

1136
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.960
<v Speaker 1>two men and they had like a pole kind of

1137
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like you'd use for a tea peopole, and there was

1138
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a little girl. I'm guessing again she was probably five.

1139
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:11.480
<v Speaker 1>She was super tiny. She was Mexican and oriented. I

1140
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 1>can tell because she had the dark skin and everything.

1141
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 7>So they had.

1142
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Taken her and she was tied up, so they had

1143
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 1>put this tea peopole thing there, and then they tied

1144
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:21.480
<v Speaker 1>her hands and her legs up to it, so it

1145
01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was like her face was facing down right, and these

1146
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 1>two men were carrying her in towards this enormous fire

1147
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that they had made. And to make a fire hot

1148
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:33.079
<v Speaker 1>enough to burn a human body is like you have

1149
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:34.519
<v Speaker 1>to make it really, really hot, So they had to

1150
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 1>be burning it probably since the morning, way before I

1151
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 1>ever got there. But they ended up doing a ritual

1152
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 1>with her, and then they just picked her up and

1153
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:43.599
<v Speaker 1>put her right down over the top of the fire. No,

1154
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it is one of the most perfect things you'll ever watch,

1155
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:50.639
<v Speaker 1>not because it's like they actually die pretty quickly that way,

1156
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:53.039
<v Speaker 1>because the second that they get over that immense amount

1157
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of heat, they take their first in breath and they're gone,

1158
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 1>and it basically sees your lungs to the point in

1159
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:01.039
<v Speaker 1>a return. But the most horrid thing is just watching

1160
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and like I remember it is when they put her

1161
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:05.800
<v Speaker 1>in her hair was dissolved instantaneously. It's like when you

1162
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 1>put hair in fire, it just disappears. So not only that,

1163
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.400
<v Speaker 1>what most people have never thought about and don't see

1164
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 1>is that the skin just like liquefies and it starts

1165
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to fall off of the body in sheets, so that

1166
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I was watching it fall into the fire like that,

1167
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and then pretty soon we were left with basically only

1168
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>bones and like sinews and stuff like that. So I

1169
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they do with the bones that they

1170
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 1>do in those rituals because usually we leave before anything's

1171
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 1>cleaned up. It takes quite a while for a body

1172
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>to completely burn.

1173
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 7>So that was a pretty.

1174
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Typical way of killing them. And this you have to

1175
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 1>know too, for the different holidays. It requires killing people

1176
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:52.320
<v Speaker 1>in different ways in different ages. So some of the

1177
01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:56.119
<v Speaker 1>rituals require aborted fetuses, some of them require tiny babies,

1178
01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:58.880
<v Speaker 1>others require like a woman who's in the prime of

1179
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 1>her reproductive cycle, things like that. And if they if

1180
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:03.719
<v Speaker 1>they take a woman who's in the prime for reproductive cycle,

1181
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the way that you kill them, who is by slicing

1182
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 1>them across the road?

1183
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 6>How how did you not fall victim to being a sacrifice?

1184
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:14.679
<v Speaker 7>I would love that.

1185
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I would love to tell you that I know exactly

1186
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:20.119
<v Speaker 1>why I don't like it. Then, looking back from an

1187
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 1>adult standpoint, it's like I can see a few times

1188
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 1>where it got really close, really really close, and I

1189
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think what it was. If I'm an adventurer, I guess

1190
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the because of what I was

1191
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 1>capable of doing with these abilities that they really did

1192
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.560
<v Speaker 1>believe in that why would you get rid of your

1193
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.880
<v Speaker 1>access to the underworld? Why would you get rid of

1194
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they used to drink my blood rituals on purpose,

1195
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:48.439
<v Speaker 1>thinking that if they did that, they'd have protection or

1196
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to see into the future, things like that.

1197
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:54.239
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't it wouldn't make sense, I guess, to

1198
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice that. And also if you have somebody with these

1199
01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:03.720
<v Speaker 1>insane occult abilities, basically I guess there was some part

1200
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.039
<v Speaker 1>of them that hoped to groom me for a matriarchal position,

1201
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:09.560
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of the Satanic groups are highly matriarchal,

1202
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 1>not patriarchal. This is another thing which might surprise people

1203
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 1>to know. So like usually instead of there being a

1204
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 1>primary male priest that's like presiding over all, these women

1205
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 1>in the patriarchy is what keeps everyone down a lot

1206
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 1>of times. It's a super deviant matriarchal character, like the

1207
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Crone type of character, who is the one who's telling

1208
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:31.279
<v Speaker 1>people what to do and is orchestrating these huge events

1209
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. So I could assume they are

1210
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 1>probably grooming me for that particular position, because when I

1211
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 1>turned thirteen, the tables flipped, even though I was still

1212
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.680
<v Speaker 1>getting like tortured by them, programmed by them everything, because

1213
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to reinstate programs like some of them will

1214
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.720
<v Speaker 1>stick longer other ones. You have to read program over

1215
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and over again to make sure that those neuropathways stay

1216
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 1>completely fresh in the brain. So besides that, though, the

1217
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:56.920
<v Speaker 1>tables were turned and I was now flipped into a

1218
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 1>position of working with the younger children's programming them, which

1219
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 1>worked for my therapy because I know how they do it.

1220
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:05.279
<v Speaker 1>So if I know how they do it, I now

1221
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 1>know how to d program myself. And it's beneficial also

1222
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.159
<v Speaker 1>because I can teach you know, these people who are

1223
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.159
<v Speaker 1>working in the profession of ritual trauma psychologists and things,

1224
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I could teach them how to d program now. But

1225
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that was originally why I didn't want to talk to

1226
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.399
<v Speaker 1>people about what was going on with me. I had

1227
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 1>never planned on telling anybody. By the way, this is

1228
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.279
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes surprising to me that I'm now super public

1229
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:31.000
<v Speaker 1>about this because none of us are going to talk,

1230
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we get away, that's where we start.

1231
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:38.439
<v Speaker 4>So let's just say that she's telling the truth. Okay,

1232
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:42.119
<v Speaker 4>Let's just say that this is one hundred percent, genuine,

1233
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 4>genuine s R A survivor. Sometimes I wonder how these

1234
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 4>people are able to say the things that they do,

1235
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.720
<v Speaker 4>to come out in public with this stuff, And it

1236
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.399
<v Speaker 4>makes me wonder if it's not just part of the plan,

1237
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 4>part of the plan and to desensitize people on what

1238
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:09.560
<v Speaker 4>really is going on with this stuff, you know, And

1239
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 4>I sometimes wonder, like, am I a part of the

1240
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:21.399
<v Speaker 4>problem because I share this stuff with people? And I

1241
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 4>am part of desensitizing people. Like sometimes I'm watching these

1242
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 4>videos and they're like talking about their life as a child,

1243
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.880
<v Speaker 4>and you know, just random stuff, and I'm like, Okay,

1244
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.920
<v Speaker 4>come on, did you get raped or not? Did you

1245
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.720
<v Speaker 4>see them meet the babies? What happened to your be hole?

1246
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Let's get into it, Like do I got to pry

1247
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 4>it out of you about your rape story? We're just

1248
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.640
<v Speaker 4>gonna sit here and talk about popsicles for the Like,

1249
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm becoming desensitized to a degree and also

1250
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.119
<v Speaker 4>skeptic of a lot of these people's testimonies, Like are

1251
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:08.079
<v Speaker 4>these crazy people? Are they do they just want us

1252
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 4>to think that these are crazy people, so we discount

1253
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:17.159
<v Speaker 4>how horrific their story is. But it does, you know,

1254
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 4>It's something that I've thought of before. But let's continue.

1255
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I had planned on not telling anybody, especially because I

1256
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:27.279
<v Speaker 1>was convinced I was going to be put in jail.

1257
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Because when you realize, like, oh, these things are like

1258
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 1>punishable crimes. Oh, you know, you realize I've programmed children,

1259
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I participated in sacrifices.

1260
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:40.000
<v Speaker 7>And even though it's like.

1261
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 1>It's because you've been traumatized and you have no option.

1262
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's too difficult to talk to somebody who's

1263
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.439
<v Speaker 1>been in a space of freedom. You can't really explain

1264
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to them what it's like to mentally be in the

1265
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.600
<v Speaker 1>situation where you would do anything you were told to

1266
01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:58.000
<v Speaker 1>do because you don't have another option, But you get

1267
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:02.000
<v Speaker 1>there mentally. So even though I had no other option

1268
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 1>than to do these things with these groups, it's like

1269
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the massive amount of guilt that I have a hard

1270
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:06.920
<v Speaker 1>time getting over.

1271
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:08.279
<v Speaker 7>And it's the reason I didn't want to talk.

1272
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to end up in a Jill soul

1273
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>because I did something when I was seventeen with a

1274
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:13.399
<v Speaker 1>cold group that took me in when I was six.

1275
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you you programmed some of the children that

1276
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:22.239
<v Speaker 3>were brought into the cult. Did a child ever die

1277
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:22.840
<v Speaker 3>at your hands?

1278
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:23.279
<v Speaker 4>No?

1279
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 7>No, but I didn't.

1280
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:28.199
<v Speaker 1>What really kills me is that I didn't do anything

1281
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to stop them. It's like when the older I've gotten,

1282
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like the more you get out of this haze

1283
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that you get in with these groups, the more that

1284
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of like wishing that they would have killed

1285
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me just because.

1286
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 7>I was protesting.

1287
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like it would almost be morally better to die

1288
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 1>because you were saying no, then watch and not be

1289
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:47.159
<v Speaker 1>able to do anything like I felt like I was

1290
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 1>doing for so long.

1291
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.000
<v Speaker 3>So there was a point where you started protesting while

1292
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 3>you were oh.

1293
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I never protested. That was my that's my issue.

1294
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:56.279
<v Speaker 1>That's like my number one guilt.

1295
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 3>That you didn't protest.

1296
01:13:58.319 --> 01:13:59.279
<v Speaker 7>I didn't think it was an option.

1297
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 3>And you were nineteen when you got out yep. And

1298
01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:03.560
<v Speaker 3>how did you.

1299
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Get out and what was the what was it that

1300
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:08.279
<v Speaker 6>clicked for you or what was that moment when it

1301
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:10.800
<v Speaker 6>was like, oh crap, I have to get out.

1302
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 1>This is really funny because this is like people love

1303
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.000
<v Speaker 1>me to They want to hear a story where I'm

1304
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.800
<v Speaker 1>basically so excited to be gone finally, and that is

1305
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.640
<v Speaker 1>so the not the way that it went. The way

1306
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that it went is that I was wanting to leave

1307
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to do other things. I was like, because I had

1308
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.159
<v Speaker 1>started modeling. He used to prostitute me when I was younger.

1309
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things.

1310
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 7>I haven't talked about that he'd done to me that

1311
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:35.279
<v Speaker 7>I was like.

1312
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:36.960
<v Speaker 1>But basically, one of the things he used to do

1313
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>is make money by prostituting me hout when I was younger.

1314
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:39.439
<v Speaker 7>So he'd take.

1315
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Polaroid photographs of me covered in blood, and then he

1316
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.000
<v Speaker 1>would go and like to Wendover was the most typical

1317
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>place we went, or sometimes motels just in Logan, Utah,

1318
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:51.920
<v Speaker 1>are in Preston, Idaho. And what he would do is

1319
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:54.720
<v Speaker 1>he would sit in the back of his truck. And

1320
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the hell he orchestrated this because

1321
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch him call these people, but men would

1322
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 1>approach the truck. He'd show them these pullaroid photographs and

1323
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 1>they decide what they would want me to do with them,

1324
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 1>and they'd pay him for it. So like one of

1325
01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the most common things to do. I don't know if

1326
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you remember the back in the day with these gas stations,

1327
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:15.960
<v Speaker 1>what they used to have with gas stations is an

1328
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.000
<v Speaker 1>outdoor bathroom, not an indoor bathroom, right so what they

1329
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:21.199
<v Speaker 1>do is pulled it the side and I would go

1330
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:23.479
<v Speaker 1>into the outdoor bathroom and then the guy would come

1331
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:25.079
<v Speaker 1>in and then he'd do whatever the hell he wanted

1332
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>to rape or have me, you know, perform filatio stuff

1333
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:31.119
<v Speaker 1>like that, and then they would go back and then

1334
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.960
<v Speaker 1>pay him for it. So he would take me and

1335
01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably see like the most I ever saw in

1336
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the night was eight. Usually it was like two or three.

1337
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 1>And that was how he's making money. But when I

1338
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.520
<v Speaker 1>turned twelve, it's like the guys who were into that

1339
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 1>pedophile stuff, they don't really want to have sex with

1340
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you anymore because you're older. So at first this guy,

1341
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 1>my keeper was super pissed about it. He's losing money, Like,

1342
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with the fact that you're getting older.

1343
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.399
<v Speaker 1>This is not okay because you're losing clients. Tell in fact,

1344
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to pay me for the money that

1345
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm losing because you're getting tits. So I didn't know

1346
01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 1>how to do that, and he got it in his

1347
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.479
<v Speaker 1>mind that basically, what if she could model, you know,

1348
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that'd be a good idea because she's pretty na. Why

1349
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>don't we just see, like what happens there so I

1350
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.000
<v Speaker 1>started I sort of got into it. Like the funny

1351
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>part is, it's not like he threw me into the

1352
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:25.720
<v Speaker 1>modeling thing. Gave me that suggestion, and I was like,

1353
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 1>oh bummer. I was like amazed by this other world

1354
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 1>out there because I was growing up in this rural

1355
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:34.159
<v Speaker 1>town as a like bumpkin kid. Basically even though I

1356
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 1>had educated children all right, sorry, educated parents.

1357
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 7>I had educated parents.

1358
01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>So even though I had that reality, I sort of

1359
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.399
<v Speaker 1>saw this glamor, you know, in the world of fashion,

1360
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and these women who were like instead of being used

1361
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and destroyed, basically, they were like glorified, and I.

1362
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 7>Loved it the god.

1363
01:16:57.159 --> 01:17:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So I became totally obsessed with modeling, got into it.

1364
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Most of the money that I was making out of modeling,

1365
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I was giving right back to my keeper because that

1366
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>was the rule that they're And when I was nineteen

1367
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:13.079
<v Speaker 1>or so, I had graduated from high school.

1368
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 7>I was sixteen.

1369
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I was incapable of doing anything, which is typical of

1370
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:19.960
<v Speaker 1>children who are in cults like this, when we're programmed

1371
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:21.560
<v Speaker 1>with the no self care programs.

1372
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.359
<v Speaker 7>It's like the time that your parents sort of expect

1373
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:25.439
<v Speaker 7>you to fly, but no.

1374
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in and out of hospitals in psychology offices

1375
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:31.960
<v Speaker 1>every other ten seconds, and they were trying to figure

1376
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>out what the hell was going on with me. They

1377
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 1>mentioned abuse more than a hundred times, but like looking

1378
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 1>at my parents and figuring it's not them, They're like, well,

1379
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 1>it can't be abused, so what the hell are we

1380
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>looking at? And I slipped through the cracks like a

1381
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of children who are part of these cults do,

1382
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 1>even though there are people who suspect. It's like, it

1383
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.359
<v Speaker 1>never occurs to my parents that it's a family friend,

1384
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>never occurs to the people that it can be like

1385
01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole cult group that's super good at doing what

1386
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they do. So it just went unchecked and I was

1387
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like not functioning. But I still had these sort of

1388
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:11.239
<v Speaker 1>dreams of being a model. So I had planned to

1389
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get away from him for just a little bit to

1390
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 1>go do some modeling. I was not planning on running away.

1391
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll just like go there and now and tell you.

1392
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think i'd ever be gone. So it was

1393
01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>just like I need to go on a trip, which

1394
01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was not allowed. The last time I'd gone on a trip,

1395
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he actually killed my dog. So I planned on going

1396
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>on this trip. He found out caught wind from my

1397
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.680
<v Speaker 1>mother and he had planned the scenario because he was

1398
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.159
<v Speaker 1>super furious. So I get back from a trip and

1399
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:42.239
<v Speaker 1>he injected me as ketamine.

1400
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 7>This is the other story.

1401
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Because he was a veterinarian, he had access to ketemine,

1402
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:48.680
<v Speaker 1>dormitory and zyolazine, So all three of those drugs were

1403
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>used on me like a lot throughout my childhood. At

1404
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that point, I was actually hooked on a ketamine that

1405
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you could drop on the pulse points of your skin

1406
01:18:57.920 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>that he had given me to calm down because I

1407
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was having what they call bleedover symptoms when you put

1408
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:06.359
<v Speaker 1>somebody through so much trauma. Then the programming that they

1409
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:09.199
<v Speaker 1>institute to be able to shift into emotional states.

1410
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:09.960
<v Speaker 7>So this is what I mean.

1411
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.119
<v Speaker 1>If you're a kid basically who's been in these groups,

1412
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:17.199
<v Speaker 1>they need you to be able to function so that

1413
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:19.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody notices. So what they do is they create a

1414
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.119
<v Speaker 1>split program so that if they teach you to snap

1415
01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:24.960
<v Speaker 1>your fingers and the minute you do that, you feel good.

1416
01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:25.840
<v Speaker 7>You don't feel anything.

1417
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>So anytime you start feeling emotional anxiety or something like

1418
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 1>that and you snap your fingers, you can actually train

1419
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a child to in one. On one hand, they're crying

1420
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the next minute to do that.

1421
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:39.000
<v Speaker 7>They're like, what's going on? It's that simple.

1422
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So they train you with this split programming so that

1423
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>they can make sure that you can function at school

1424
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and so that you're doing this with the group, and

1425
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it's basically you're living a double life. So I specifically

1426
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.079
<v Speaker 1>program children for this. So I've watched them do this

1427
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was done on me as well. So bleedover

1428
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 1>symptoms is what happens when this is no longer working,

1429
01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:01.680
<v Speaker 1>when you've got so much subconscious trauma, actually that most

1430
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:03.479
<v Speaker 1>of the time the person spends in a state of

1431
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>serious anxiety. So I was starting to have seizures, which

1432
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:10.199
<v Speaker 1>they think is it's either trauma seizures or it's caizars

1433
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that are induced by the long term use of kenemine

1434
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 1>things like that. So that's another bleed over sentiment sort

1435
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of like they're no longer able to contain completely the

1436
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:23.039
<v Speaker 1>trauma that's happening within the system. So the extreme anxiety

1437
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I was going through, he would give me droplets of

1438
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.199
<v Speaker 1>ketemine to put on my skin instead, and I was

1439
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.840
<v Speaker 1>carrying that around with me. So I think that that

1440
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>was the reason. If I'm going to go and put

1441
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 1>a theory in. I think that's the reason that he

1442
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:39.640
<v Speaker 1>gave me the wrong dose, which is the first time

1443
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he's ever messed up like that in my life. So

1444
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.199
<v Speaker 1>he was planning an the elaborate programming scenario where he

1445
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:48.439
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to inject me with a full dose of ketamine,

1446
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>which would put me unconscious and then I would wake

1447
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:55.039
<v Speaker 1>up having no memory. It didn't work that way. I

1448
01:20:55.079 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's because of the fact that he had given

1449
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>me that dropper to continually take kenymine tolerance was higher,

1450
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>so he missed. He gave me a miss dose and

1451
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't lose consciousness. And when he put me in

1452
01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the back of this van that I was in, I

1453
01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was conscious the entire time I was there. I was groggy.

1454
01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't move my body, which is pretty typical. It's

1455
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:16.880
<v Speaker 1>one reason they love using that. The cult groups love

1456
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>ketamine because ketamine you can still feel everything until you

1457
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>go completely conscious. You can still feel everything, but you

1458
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>can't move.

1459
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:25.680
<v Speaker 7>So I couldn't move my body.

1460
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But I was awake watching at twilight, watching all of

1461
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the you know, like the trees when you drive, you've

1462
01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>got like that sort of sunshine dappled sunlight that's coming through.

1463
01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So then he brought me to this group of really

1464
01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:43.520
<v Speaker 1>tall pine trees and walked me off of the road.

1465
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Probably ten twenty minutes could have been into the woods

1466
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and there was a body there. Now, one of the

1467
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 1>members of the Satanic group is this guy who owns

1468
01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a mortician place, so he's you think he's a morticianer.

1469
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:03.399
<v Speaker 1>So it's a good way for people who are trying

1470
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>to really traumatize children to procure instruments of torment, essentially

1471
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.880
<v Speaker 1>by using these bodies. So we were brought into morticians'

1472
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.079
<v Speaker 1>offices as well as him doing what he did this day,

1473
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.319
<v Speaker 1>which was to procure that body and bring it into

1474
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>the woods. So at nineteen years old, I walk into

1475
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the woods. Here's this body that he has put there.

1476
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Now he comes up behind me, which was quite typical

1477
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>for him, and smacked me in the back of the

1478
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:31.479
<v Speaker 1>head and threw me to the ground and said, look

1479
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what you do when I am not watching you every second.

1480
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of trouble you put us all in.

1481
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to convince me that I had killed

1482
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this person, and I was supposed to then be like.

1483
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:44.159
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

1484
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that you're like helping me with this,

1485
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and I know the cops are because that's the whole thing.

1486
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:51.439
<v Speaker 1>The cops are after you now, so you have to

1487
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>stay with me. So I'm like feeling mentally messed up

1488
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>because I've been around enough dead bodies in my childhood

1489
01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to know exactly what was going on there, and I

1490
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't out of it because he didn't notice me high enough.

1491
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting next to this body which was missing

1492
01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>its entire bottom jaw because it was a suicide victim.

1493
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:10.560
<v Speaker 7>That's like pretty typical.

1494
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>If they angled the gun wrong when they put it

1495
01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:14.439
<v Speaker 1>in their mouth, they blow their jaw off instead of

1496
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>their head. So I'm and this man's probably thirty something.

1497
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Not only that he smelled like formaldehyde, not only that

1498
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he had a full bruise along the bottom side of

1499
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>his body, and not only that you touch his skin

1500
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't bounce back. That tells me, having been

1501
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>around bodies for that long as a child, that this

1502
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is an older body. So I'm like, why is he

1503
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:37.640
<v Speaker 1>telling me that I did something I didn't do. I

1504
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:40.119
<v Speaker 1>remember everything I've done today, I know exactly like he

1505
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:43.159
<v Speaker 1>smells like formaldehyde. Like he's been in a mortician's office.

1506
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to convince me that I did something I

1507
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't do. I have no context for this. So basically

1508
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>that day he had me like carving ritual symbols into

1509
01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the body. And because the body was in rigam, his

1510
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>penis was completely erect. So he also had me perform

1511
01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like sex with this body, which is one of the

1512
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>worst memories, of course, of my life, because my face

1513
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was three inches away from this huge wound in the

1514
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:17.479
<v Speaker 1>bottom half of this guy's face. And so I'm having

1515
01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>sex with this course.

1516
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:28.680
<v Speaker 8>And ow hell now, hal to the fuck now, Oh god,

1517
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:29.439
<v Speaker 8>I'm gagging.

1518
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gagging. I'm gagging. That sounds like did you guys

1519
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:38.279
<v Speaker 4>ever watch The Haunting in Connecticut where that guy he

1520
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 4>had the mortician or whatever, he had the funeral home

1521
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.079
<v Speaker 4>and he was carving symbols and doing all kind of

1522
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.760
<v Speaker 4>occult rituals and shit with them bodies and stuff. If

1523
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:50.880
<v Speaker 4>they would have included a scene like that, I think

1524
01:24:50.920 --> 01:24:54.560
<v Speaker 4>they would have fucking thrown the movie out. But this

1525
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.319
<v Speaker 4>really really reminds me of that movie. You guys should

1526
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 4>watch it, But hale to the now. You know what,

1527
01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:08.520
<v Speaker 4>his dead corpse ass fucking nasty penis probably smelled like

1528
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>and his dead carved up beehole and she had a

1529
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:22.000
<v Speaker 4>climb one. Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. But that is

1530
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 4>going to conclude part one of the Teal Swan story.

1531
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna stop my share real quid. Okay, folks, So

1532
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:35.319
<v Speaker 4>that is gonna do us for part one of the

1533
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Teal Swan story. You could probably go to YouTube, type

1534
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.760
<v Speaker 4>this bitch's name in and watch the rest of this

1535
01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:45.520
<v Speaker 4>interview all on your own, but then you would be

1536
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:51.159
<v Speaker 4>lacking the very entertaining side commentary and conversation with yours truly,

1537
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:54.159
<v Speaker 4>and we're besties. I don't know why you'd want to

1538
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:57.359
<v Speaker 4>watch it without me. We'd be doing stuff together. We're

1539
01:25:57.439 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 4>family over her. But yeah, so that's gonna do for

1540
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>part one. I got some shout outs and some stuff

1541
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to mention for part two. I was gonna

1542
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:11.159
<v Speaker 4>put them in this, but I forgot my bee. I

1543
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 4>will include the shout outs on the part two, but

1544
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:20.600
<v Speaker 4>until then, I love you, thank you for watching, and

1545
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I will catch you out the next one. Girl, figure,

1546
01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:30.039
<v Speaker 4>you were the trigger.

1547
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.600
<v Speaker 5>You brought me to an obstructive you when you know

1548
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:39.600
<v Speaker 5>the picture speaker who went my kiden, who from knocking in?

1549
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.960
<v Speaker 5>You doin everything, you do it every time you want

1550
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:48.199
<v Speaker 5>my enemy, you want no friend of mine. Motherfucker, you're

1551
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 5>motherfucking right, You're all fucking right on.

1552
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>You're mother fucking right on trigger. You're all fucking right up.

1553
01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>I wanna fuck you right up.

1554
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:02.520
<v Speaker 5>I just the lights now, and you know when the

1555
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.359
<v Speaker 5>sun go down, when it would all go down?

1556
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Been a minute, it's been a while yet.

1557
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Nobody it is it.

1558
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.720
<v Speaker 5>You're with it, you know you. It's not what do

1559
01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.720
<v Speaker 5>with it? But I know mean you without you with it,

1560
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm out to burn this beach down. You gonna need

1561
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:20.800
<v Speaker 5>to lie down because I'm not trying a.

1562
01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:21.760
<v Speaker 7>While down now.

1563
01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:26.079
<v Speaker 5>But right now I don't know what okay for Paul

1564
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 5>might fuck around and go crazy because my fucking around.

1565
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Have to pay me and blood.

1566
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.439
<v Speaker 4>This ain't the way that you want. Might catch your

1567
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 4>case in this bitch. Don't let me catch your face

1568
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:39.039
<v Speaker 4>to face in this bitch. Try in. My heart is

1569
01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:41.720
<v Speaker 4>not do this respect after what you did, man.

1570
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:42.720
<v Speaker 5>What you've expected.

1571
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Your motherfucking your mouthfucking right, your motherfucking right on, bitter,

1572
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>your motherfucking right on trigger, Your.

1573
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:55.640
<v Speaker 5>Motherfucking right up, shout a lot of time.

1574
01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:58.319
<v Speaker 4>Shout a lot of time.

1575
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.520
<v Speaker 5>Go by, shut out the time.

1576
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:05.319
<v Speaker 2>He'll oh at the time, go oh the memories.

1577
01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:12.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh you mentally, oh no, history, Oh that's history. Out

1578
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:19.359
<v Speaker 5>come down, eventually, fall back, eventially, please call me back. Eventually,

1579
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:22.119
<v Speaker 5>fall back again to me here