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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome back to the show. A little change
Speaker 4: of scenery. We'll talk about that another time. Onto business.
Speaker 4: How is everybody doing a lot of stuff that we
Speaker 4: need to catch up on today? So I didn't know
Speaker 4: about this, Colby told me about this. What did I
Speaker 4: fucking say?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Like two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? I said, in
Speaker 4: order to distract from the Epstein files, they're gonna come
Speaker 4: out with some fucking crazy shit about aliens, extraterrestrials something.
Speaker 4: And so I guess Trump tweeted that he was gonna
Speaker 4: do some ancient aliens disclosure type shit. And I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's done it yet or not, or if
Speaker 4: he's just talking trying to distract, because they're about to
Speaker 4: come out and say there was some shit in Epstein
Speaker 4: files about getting piped up the b hole or some
Speaker 4: stuff like that. It's about to say, you know, we
Speaker 4: was drowning puppies, we was eating babies, we was doing
Speaker 4: all the things. Oh, by the way, aliens. So we'll
Speaker 4: see how that shakes out. I fucking told you so.
Speaker 4: I feel like Alex Jones right now, minus that I'm
Speaker 4: like a CIA operative. Anyways, so I was watching this
Speaker 4: thing the other day. I got two stories for you,
Speaker 4: both true stories. You can google it. The first story was,
Speaker 4: this dude was just sitting on his back patio or
Speaker 4: something like that, just minding his own business, maybe doing
Speaker 4: a little barbecue in I don't know, and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden he sees this airplane, commercial airplane like Southwest
Speaker 4: or some shit like that, just flying over his house
Speaker 4: and a dude person he didn't know was a dude
Speaker 4: at the time, just falling straight out of the airplane.
Speaker 4: So he starts freaking out, calls nine to one one
Speaker 4: something like that, and he tries to walk over to
Speaker 4: where he thinks this guy's gonna drop, and by the
Speaker 4: time he gets there, there's a man in a bathrobe
Speaker 4: standing there his whole back patio. This cement is fucking cave.
Speaker 4: The fucking like a fucking meteor shower just occurred, and
Speaker 4: the dude that fell out of the airplane hit this
Speaker 4: other guy's back patio, shattered the concrete, and there were
Speaker 4: just bits and chunks of dismembered body parts, blood, everything
Speaker 4: splattered all over the fucking place. And it turns out,
Speaker 4: I don't know how they came to this conclusion, but
Speaker 4: this is what they say. The guy was already dead
Speaker 4: before he hitited the patio, and he was also frozen solid.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the show they try to
Speaker 4: explain it away by saying, oh, he was probably like
Speaker 4: a stowaway person and he got stuck somewhere in the
Speaker 4: airplane and froze into an ice cube. However that happens,
Speaker 4: not saying it can't, but that's what this story is.
Speaker 4: And he was already dead because he was a frozen
Speaker 4: chunk of ice cube in the airplane. And then somehow,
Speaker 4: all on its own, the airplane decided to open some
Speaker 4: kind of hatch and his body was ejected from the
Speaker 4: airplane and just went spiraling through the air landed on
Speaker 4: this guy's back patio. He comes out in his bathrobe.
Speaker 4: That's definitely not something you'd expect to see on a
Speaker 4: Sunday morning in your bathrobe. It's like, Oh, I think
Speaker 4: I might do a little barbecuing today. I think I might,
Speaker 4: you know, Refiel the bird feeders enjoy and relax a
Speaker 4: peaceful Sunday morning. No, you got a frozen, dead ass
Speaker 4: corpse sky falling onto your back patio and shattering into
Speaker 4: a million pieces. Now let's turn on our conspiracy brains
Speaker 4: for a second. Let's say there's many possible options here,
Speaker 4: But let's say it was a stowaway who got trapped
Speaker 4: in the airplane, somehow turned into an icicle and then
Speaker 4: fell out of the plane. Why would the airplane open
Speaker 4: like it's a commercial, it's like a passenger airplane. It's
Speaker 4: like Delta fucking flying over a neighborhood. Why would the
Speaker 4: airplane suddenly open to eject this guy. It doesn't make
Speaker 4: sense to me. That would have freaked out all the
Speaker 4: passengers if they're Oh, by the way, if you hear something,
Speaker 4: we're just opening up whatever under the plane going to
Speaker 4: throw out this dead guy. Secondly, how is it, and
Speaker 4: maybe I'm just retarded. If he was a stowaway, why
Speaker 4: was he in a frozen block of ice? It wasn't
Speaker 4: in the middle of winter. This was summertime. You know,
Speaker 4: I know, it gets cold the higher up you go
Speaker 4: or whatever, But a frozen block of ice and then
Speaker 4: the airplane opens just in time to expel this guy,
Speaker 4: so he falls out over a neighborhood and the guy
Speaker 4: was never identified. Like if that happened to me, I'd
Speaker 4: be like following up and shit, like, who's DNA do
Speaker 4: I have all over this patio? And do they have
Speaker 4: a cousin or a spouse or something that's going to
Speaker 4: reimburst me for the damage to my patio? Like I
Speaker 4: get a rip and everything. I got a patio I
Speaker 4: gotta fix. Does he have a life insurance policy? What's
Speaker 4: the name? I can look for it under? All right, so,
Speaker 4: and does homeowners cover that? Like that's the call you
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to make it to your homeowner's insurance. Yes,
Speaker 4: I have a problem I need to report. I'd like
Speaker 4: to open up a case file for my back patio.
Speaker 4: It's caved the fucking dead frozen chunk of ice. Did
Speaker 4: ass corpse busted up my patio? And I was gonna
Speaker 4: have people over next weekend and now I can't because
Speaker 4: there's bludd and guts all over my fucking brand new
Speaker 4: fucking patio, shit furniture, and who's gonna pay for But anyways,
Speaker 4: I'd just be thinking about stuff like this, like the
Speaker 4: guy never got identified, It was never explained how he
Speaker 4: turned into a frozen block of ice and why he
Speaker 4: was dumped out of a passenger airplane over a neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Just dot dot dot, I guess remains to be seen,
Speaker 4: little creepy, little weird hopefully. You know, just when you
Speaker 4: go out of your house, people look for the kimtrails,
Speaker 4: look for you know, they'd be spraying us and shit,
Speaker 4: but also frozen dead ass corpse falling unidentified bodies in
Speaker 4: the sky. This is America. You never know what you're
Speaker 4: gonna get. Okay, maybe aliens according to Trump. Now, second
Speaker 4: story I heard about, Okay, this one, and you can
Speaker 4: google it. I'm about to google it right now because
Speaker 4: I forgot the name of the team. And this will
Speaker 4: add credibility to this shit, cause you guys be thinking
Speaker 4: I make this stuff up. Okay. Nineteen ninety eight, the
Speaker 4: Democratic Republic of the Kungo. All right, eleven players from
Speaker 4: one soccer team worst, This is okay. The soccer team
Speaker 4: was the binadash Shadi Ta Shadi team whatever. Who cares?
Speaker 4: Democratic Republic of the Congo Okay, nineteen ninety eight. During
Speaker 4: this soccer match, eleven players from the Tishati team were
Speaker 4: all simultaneously struck by lightning, and nobody from the other team.
Speaker 4: Not a fucking thing happened to him, No lightning bolt,
Speaker 4: nothing going on, okay, And thirty of the fans for
Speaker 4: the Tashati team were somehow got a blowback lightning thing
Speaker 4: going on and suffered severe like third degree burns, and
Speaker 4: none of the fans from the other team got sizzled.
Speaker 4: So it's a little interesting to me, okay. And this again,
Speaker 4: you can google it, all right, the whole team, the
Speaker 4: whole team, just that team, eleven players simultaneously struck by
Speaker 4: lightning and if you remember, and then thirty of their
Speaker 4: fans scorched, sizzled, burnt, roasted. Okay. And apparently there's several
Speaker 4: other instances of this happening Peru November twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: Ohio June twenty twenty five, South Africa twenty eighteen, Sunshine Coast, Australia,
Speaker 4: October twenty twenty five. So you tell me, okay, it's
Speaker 4: not even just a one off case. Several times this
Speaker 4: has happened, apparently. Now this is some hoodoo voodoo the
Speaker 4: democratic of the Congo that it sounds like some shit
Speaker 4: that they would be doing right let's be real ritualism.
Speaker 4: But it makes me think of the Brazil episode because
Speaker 4: they be consorting with witch doctors who do voodoo witchcraft
Speaker 4: stuff controlling the weather. That's one of the things that
Speaker 4: they're known to be fucking with. The bitch with the
Speaker 4: more gallant sorry, the young woman who may or may
Speaker 4: not be on the verge of a psychotic break from
Speaker 4: the SRA Part one and two. She got struck by lightning. Okay,
Speaker 4: there was that other guy I mentioned in that episode
Speaker 4: who kept getting struck by lightning. So weather manipulation is real. Okay.
Speaker 4: They sizzled the whole soccer team in thirty fans, so
Speaker 4: be careful who you support out there, all right, might
Speaker 4: not want to wear one of their jerseys to Walmart.
Speaker 4: Okay if you fan, keep that shit a secret, or
Speaker 4: else get hit by lightning and have more Gellon's disease
Speaker 4: and shit, I don't know what to tell you. Tragic,
Speaker 4: Google it, it happened. Okay. We live in a world
Speaker 4: where this We live in a world where these things
Speaker 4: are possible. Now, imagine being a fan of this soccer
Speaker 4: team living in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and
Speaker 4: be sitting Okay, on your back, patio dead frozen guy
Speaker 4: falls on your back patio blood and gets everywhere, and
Speaker 4: you're like, you know what, I think I'm gonna cheer
Speaker 4: myself up by going to this soccer game. Later, your
Speaker 4: whole team gets simultaneously struck by lightning and you get
Speaker 4: third degree burned, scorched right in a seat. This is
Speaker 4: the world we live in. It's a paranormal, supernatural, unbelievable, disgusting, gross, horrific, horrendous,
Speaker 4: terrifying place to live. So watch your six enjoy this episode.
Speaker 4: You know, we can enjoy the simple things in life.
Speaker 4: And I got a little bit of another watch party
Speaker 4: for us today. I might skip through some stuff. Now,
Speaker 4: call me retarded, but I really hadn't never heard of
Speaker 4: this woman before. Apparently she's a little bit infamous and
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit also on the verge of a
Speaker 4: psychotic break I did. Now, this is why I'm skeptical
Speaker 4: of this woman. Okay, because apparently she's popped up everywhere.
Speaker 4: But I still feel like it's worth hearing the whole
Speaker 4: testimonial from her, Okay, and then we can decide as
Speaker 4: we go along if we believe it or not. But
Speaker 4: I seen this bitch on Facebook ads, because I'd be
Speaker 4: scrolling through there, you know, watching mom videos and looking
Speaker 4: for free furniture on Facebook marketplace, as one tends to do,
Speaker 4: and she popped up on an ad trying to sell
Speaker 4: some kind of hippie, dippy nonsense oil to rub on
Speaker 4: your taint, to conjure spirits or something like that, some
Speaker 4: blue Lotus maringa taint rub, And I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, that's that bitch from that video saying she
Speaker 4: was an Siray survivor. The same, the very same bitch
Speaker 4: from that video saying she was an SIRA survivor. Now
Speaker 4: she's on ads for maringa taint rub. Like, what's going
Speaker 4: on with this woman? She's attractive, well spoken, got a
Speaker 4: vibe about her, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 4: wondering if she might not be just like an actress
Speaker 4: faking a lot of this stuff, or if maybe she
Speaker 4: is telling the truth. Maybe she is an SRA survivor
Speaker 4: and now she's just moved on with her life and
Speaker 4: she sells blue Lotus maringa taint rub to conjure the
Speaker 4: Cundalini's and the Tortolini's and whatever else behole Leni's vage
Speaker 4: holtenis whatever. I don't be doing this stuff. You might,
Speaker 4: you guys might know more about it. But this woman
Speaker 4: popped up as like you know, on YouTube and can't
Speaker 4: I watched the video or whatever, like SRA survivor. Her
Speaker 4: name definitely sounds made up, okay, Her name definitely sound
Speaker 4: like a porn star name, somebody who would be selling
Speaker 4: Couci Tordolini rub all right. That definitely okay, matches with
Speaker 4: her profile. But could this be a real person who
Speaker 4: really went through some traumatic stuff and just moved on
Speaker 4: with their life or is this someone who has been
Speaker 4: planted and she it's like stage two, you know, she's
Speaker 4: planted to throw some weirdness in with the authentic, genuine
Speaker 4: SRA Survivor testimonies to kind of disc credit them, like,
Speaker 4: oh look at this, you know, bitch, she's saying all
Speaker 4: this whatever whatever, this that, and the third thing, this
Speaker 4: is wild. This is crazy. This is the most bizarre shit.
Speaker 5: I've ever heard.
Speaker 4: And if she's lying, they're probably all lying. So take
Speaker 4: that for what you will. Maybe she is planted and
Speaker 4: staged or whatever. But I do think it's interesting and
Speaker 4: we can kind of unpack this together, as we go.
Speaker 4: But let me sure my screen. Hang on, let me
Speaker 4: pull this shit up her, because I'd be slacking. I
Speaker 4: get so excited to chat with my besties, I forget
Speaker 4: to pull up the videos and stuff. All right, here
Speaker 4: we go, hang on, all right. The bitch name is
Speaker 4: Teal Swan, okay, and she wants you to teal your
Speaker 4: swan with her tordelini rub And this is the kind
Speaker 4: of thing she'd be doing. I read all the comments.
Speaker 4: You know, she's talking about all the things we know about,
Speaker 4: and everybody in the comments section is let's make this
Speaker 4: go viral. You know, she's the strongest woman I know,
Speaker 4: and this and that. So people are really buying into
Speaker 4: this stuff. And I definitely think she has an interesting
Speaker 4: story to tell. Whether or not all the bits and
Speaker 4: pieces biscuits and gravy are true remains to be seen.
Speaker 4: But let's watch it together. We'll unpack it, discuss it
Speaker 4: and go from there.
Speaker 3: Do you have my checks and everything?
Speaker 6: We're good, okay, So we'll just go ahead and get started,
Speaker 6: just for the my check and so we have it
Speaker 6: on record, kind of how you say and spell your name?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Teals one T E A L. S.
Speaker 6: W a m okay, and I'm just gonna have you
Speaker 6: just kind of tell me your story from six years
Speaker 6: old on.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well I should probably start before then,
Speaker 1: because this all started basically when I was really young,
Speaker 1: and I started exhibiting these types of abilities basically, and
Speaker 1: regardless of whether somebody does or doesn't believe in extra
Speaker 1: sensory abilities or psychic behavior or else being able to
Speaker 1: heal someone with energy stuff like this, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people in the world who do believe in
Speaker 1: those things, and a lot of religions that believe in
Speaker 1: those things. Right, So when I was younger, I would
Speaker 1: put my hands on people and they'd experience healings, or
Speaker 1: I would talk to them from the standpoint of their
Speaker 1: dead relatives stuff like that. And I was also able
Speaker 1: to see the org field what I now understand is
Speaker 1: the ORG field. So I would be talking to people
Speaker 1: about things that I technically shouldn't know at that age,
Speaker 1: and it was a little off putting to my parents,
Speaker 1: super scary to them.
Speaker 7: If I wanted to be honest.
Speaker 1: To have this kid who they were really scientific, not
Speaker 1: even religious people, and so to have this kid with
Speaker 1: all these these interesting abilities was like WHOA, we don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with this. So it's really important
Speaker 1: to understand that because it's the real basis for why
Speaker 1: I was brought in like I was. So my parents
Speaker 1: they ended up being offered a job, a wilderness for
Speaker 1: stranger job in this like rural area in between Idaho
Speaker 1: and Utah, and I don't know if they were super
Speaker 1: aware of just how intensely religious everything was in the
Speaker 1: state before they moved, and so they weren't really thinking
Speaker 1: about whether it would be a major impact on me.
Speaker 1: Now when I got here as a kid, you don't
Speaker 1: you're not really socialized yet, so you don't know what's normal.
Speaker 1: It's not normal. So I would just do what it
Speaker 1: was normal, and I'd say, go to class. My first
Speaker 1: few times going to school was not good. I'd go
Speaker 1: up to the teacher and I'd be like having converse
Speaker 1: with her about something that her dead father that had
Speaker 1: wanted to say to her, or you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: And it just so happens that the most dominant religion
Speaker 1: in the area that I grew up in is Mormonism,
Speaker 1: and the Mormonism they believe in this concept that all
Speaker 1: of the God given abilities, which are some of the
Speaker 1: things that I'm demonstrating extra sensory abilities, the ability to
Speaker 1: heal people, the ability to give blessings, stuff like that
Speaker 1: that is seen as a gift from God to Joseph
Speaker 1: Smith and from Joseph Smith to men in the church.
Speaker 1: And so women technically could not hold priesthood, which are
Speaker 1: something that abused these abilities. So if a woman is
Speaker 1: exhibiting these abilities, they believed at the times that it.
Speaker 7: Was a gift of the devil.
Speaker 1: So it like raised the hackles on the back of
Speaker 1: the neck of a lot of people that were in
Speaker 1: this really small community that was near us, and they
Speaker 1: you know how word travels at church in small towns.
Speaker 1: It was like this person told that person, told this person,
Speaker 1: told that person, and it was like mass ostracization. They
Speaker 1: did not want me playing with their children. They didn't
Speaker 1: want me going into their houses, they didn't want any
Speaker 1: interaction whatsoever. They weren't seeing my parents at sacrament meeting.
Speaker 1: They were super upset about that. So after aggressively trying
Speaker 1: to convert my family in it not working, they kind
Speaker 1: of gave up and they pulled the turn the other
Speaker 1: cheek type of mentality. But the issue there is that
Speaker 1: you've got all these splinter groups off of the Mormon religion, right,
Speaker 1: So you've got the FLDS, which is what most people
Speaker 1: are super familiar with their fundamental Mormons. They believe in
Speaker 1: the idea of polygamy. Now there are other splinter groups.
Speaker 1: One of these is a cult which operates in Utah
Speaker 1: and Idaho mainly, and it's called the Blood Covenant. They
Speaker 1: believe in blood atonement. So they've attached to that doctrine
Speaker 1: in the same way that the FLDS have attached to
Speaker 1: the idea of polygamy and blood atonement basically, which is
Speaker 1: something which Brigham Young was obsessive about. He would talk
Speaker 1: about this on lots of his pulpit speeches. You can
Speaker 1: look it up if you want to. Blood atonement is
Speaker 1: basically the idea that there are some sins which can't
Speaker 1: be paid for by the death of Christ. It has
Speaker 1: to be paid for by the blood of man. So
Speaker 1: there's a really famous pulpit speech where he basically stood
Speaker 1: up in front of the people and said, if your
Speaker 1: neighbor commits adultery, if you love him, you will kill him.
Speaker 1: So this particular group has latched onto those teachings and
Speaker 1: has used it to justify all kinds of things, which
Speaker 1: is of course at an issue in all religions. It's
Speaker 1: like it's up to so much interpretation that let's say
Speaker 1: that you've got your basic sociopath or psychopath. Now they
Speaker 1: can infiltrate a church basically, and they can use those
Speaker 1: teachings to justify what they're doing. So a lot of
Speaker 1: the people that are in this Blood Covenant group are
Speaker 1: like super deviant, like psychotically deviant. And so if you're
Speaker 1: growing up, like, for example, there was a family that
Speaker 1: I grew up around in this cult where it's the
Speaker 1: kids would steal something from like the cupboards, and like
Speaker 1: a kid tries to go take a cookie, they would
Speaker 1: slit their wrists and lead them over a sink for
Speaker 1: like an allotted amount of time. And that was just
Speaker 1: a normal punishment. So it's the Mormon version of the
Speaker 1: Catholic penitentes, where in suffering and in bleeding you will
Speaker 1: basically be absolved at your sins. So I was caught
Speaker 1: on the radar of this particular cult group, and I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how that happened, but there was a
Speaker 1: member of that particular group who actually knew my mother
Speaker 1: from previous to when I was born, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of that, by the way, So at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm like four or five, and I didn't know any
Speaker 1: of that background story. But my mother was trying to
Speaker 1: get me around friends because I had none. And so
Speaker 1: there was a girl who was in my kindergarten class,
Speaker 1: I think it was, and she thought, Okay, well, it's
Speaker 1: a good opportunity to get her around them because they're
Speaker 1: not Mormon. She didn't know what they were, but they
Speaker 1: weren't Mormon, So let's get her to go over to
Speaker 1: this girl's house and see if she can make friend.
Speaker 1: I was a wickedly shy child, so she brought me
Speaker 1: over to that house. And the first time that I
Speaker 1: played with that girl at her house on her own
Speaker 1: was when I found out that her father was actually
Speaker 1: part of a Satanic cult. So this is a whole
Speaker 1: separate cult which exists in this area, and I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what rank he held in this particular Satanic religion,
Speaker 1: but that first night that we went over there and
Speaker 1: I had my first sleep over with her, the father
Speaker 1: was taking pornographic photographs of the daughter and I in
Speaker 1: his little basement area now this is it's like he
Speaker 1: liked satomasochistic porn. So when I was down there, there
Speaker 1: was a man who walked down the stairs who would
Speaker 1: of course turn into this person who pulled me into everything,
Speaker 1: my keeper they call it. Who was this man who
Speaker 1: knew my mother previously? But he basically came downstairs with
Speaker 1: these buckets full of cowblood that he had purchased from
Speaker 1: or I assume purchased maybe was just given from the
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse which is in town in hiram Utah. And the
Speaker 1: father then put the blood over us and then kept
Speaker 1: taking pictures of us kissing each other and touching each
Speaker 1: other things like that. So I assumed that he was
Speaker 1: selling those photographs or whatever else. And then probably two
Speaker 1: or three times more I went with her to satanic
Speaker 1: rituals that were taking place with those people.
Speaker 7: I had no idea what the hell was going on
Speaker 7: with them. I was super shy.
Speaker 1: That father was not like as deviant as the rest
Speaker 1: of the people that I would meet. So he was
Speaker 1: doing the really confusing back and forth stuff with his
Speaker 1: daughter a lot, where one minute he would be doing
Speaker 1: stuff like that, the next minute he'd be like, you're
Speaker 1: so beautiful, you know I love you, right, this is
Speaker 1: our little secret. So but the real reason I'm telling
Speaker 1: you this whole thing because that is where I got
Speaker 1: on the radars of this particular guy who would become
Speaker 1: pretty much my number one abuser and what they call
Speaker 1: a keeper in the group was.
Speaker 7: Just this man.
Speaker 1: So that summer he ended up targeting me. I was walking,
Speaker 1: not walking, I was riding my little Huffey bike sort
Speaker 1: of down below my house in a Mormon steakhouse building parking,
Speaker 1: and he had come up behind me, basically drugged me
Speaker 1: off the Houffey bike, took me into this steakhouse, and
Speaker 1: then pushed me down to the ground on my face
Speaker 1: and I was raped by him. That was the first
Speaker 1: time I was ever raped and my first interaction with
Speaker 1: that man specifically, and he picks me up, put me
Speaker 1: back on the Hffy bike and rode me back towards
Speaker 1: the house. Now I was completely convinced at this point
Speaker 1: that I had been in trouble for riding my bike
Speaker 1: somewhere that I wasn't supposed to be. I knew Mormons
Speaker 1: hated us like we were no Mormon. Of course I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be around the stakehouse, but it's just like sad.
Speaker 4: Where are the fucking parents?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Am I crazy or something? Or did I just have
Speaker 4: like a hyper vigilant mother. If I went and spent
Speaker 4: the fucking night at a friend's house, she called me
Speaker 4: at the friend's house, what you do? And how are Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is the dad weird things like this? Okay? And when
Speaker 4: she'd either pick me up at the friend's house or
Speaker 4: if I got dropped off, the first thing she'd say
Speaker 4: is what did you guys do? Did you have a
Speaker 4: good time? You know, fill me in on all the details.
Speaker 4: Did you braid each other's fucking hair? Did you fucking
Speaker 4: do makeup parties? What movies did you watch? What did
Speaker 4: you do? Okay? Where are the pair runs? Okay? And
Speaker 4: I get it. She looks a little bit older than me,
Speaker 4: but probably still a nineties kid. Okay, maybe late eighties
Speaker 4: early nineties kid. Parents were a little bit more relaxed
Speaker 4: back then. But nobody's asking. Nobody's asking, Like if I
Speaker 4: would have come home from a friend's house and said, mom,
Speaker 4: you know, we your blood on each other and we
Speaker 4: got naked and Jessica's dad took pictures? No, no, okay,
Speaker 4: and there would have been at least a phone call
Speaker 4: at least one phone call from my mom that night. Hey, Julia,
Speaker 4: your mom's on the phone. She wants to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Every single time I spent the night at a friend's house, okay,
Speaker 4: and most of the time she would say, I think
Speaker 4: their house is dirty. They need to come spend the
Speaker 4: night with us. Or I don't like you know, I
Speaker 4: don't like Whitney's dad. He gives me the creeps. She
Speaker 4: needs to come spend the night over here, all right?
Speaker 4: So I mean, is it just me or is it
Speaker 4: not weird? Sometimes, like you hear these stories and you
Speaker 4: think to yourself, where the fuck was your mom mean that?
Speaker 1: I thought that that was my fault, of course at
Speaker 1: that protected point, but I tried to ride my Hoffy
Speaker 1: bike home.
Speaker 7: It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I pulled it out of the side of the road
Speaker 1: and then ran into the field that was by it
Speaker 1: because I couldn't. I was really torn up. I was bleeding,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't ride my Hofey bike. So I
Speaker 1: ran off into this side of this field and just
Speaker 1: sat there like in complete shock, and my whole reality
Speaker 1: fell to pieces, because up until that point, it's like
Speaker 1: you sort of assume that your parents are going to
Speaker 1: be these omniscient, ominipent beings that pick you up before
Speaker 1: you were about to fall off a cliff or something.
Speaker 1: And that's the real moment that your childhood in is
Speaker 1: and you realize that they're not there. Ever, you know,
Speaker 1: not only are they not there, they can't protect you
Speaker 1: from a lot of things. A lot of things are
Speaker 1: a lot bigger than you when you're you know.
Speaker 7: Six years older, five or sick over.
Speaker 1: It was in Yeah, So from from six years old
Speaker 1: on this is when it really got intense because he
Speaker 1: figured out he managed like a lot of like real
Speaker 1: sociopathic people do. He managed to figure out enough about
Speaker 1: my family and enough about what I was doing that
Speaker 1: he cornered me at a horse lesson that I was
Speaker 1: working at. He was a veterinarian, so he worked actually
Speaker 1: with the horses that I was taking lessons on. And
Speaker 1: so I was riding around one day and got off
Speaker 1: of the horse and my instructor left me alone for
Speaker 1: a little bit, walked into the house and here is
Speaker 1: this guy. So I'm watching him tie this slit knot
Speaker 1: which they tie with horses, and I was super fascinated
Speaker 1: with it at that age, and I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: I remember this feeling of paralysis coming over me looking
Speaker 1: at this guy, remembering like what it was that he
Speaker 1: had done, you know. But he turned over when nobody
Speaker 1: was around because she had gone inside and don't remember
Speaker 1: what to get. But he took my throat, pushing me
Speaker 1: up against the side of the building and said, you
Speaker 1: don't know what your life is. You have no idea
Speaker 1: who I am, but i'm your father and your mother
Speaker 1: is a whore. And if you say anything about the
Speaker 1: fact that we have talked to each other, your whole
Speaker 1: entire family's gonna die. And he's like, you better look
Speaker 1: out for me, a girl.
Speaker 7: It's basically he said.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, and how old were you?
Speaker 1: I was six of that okay, but it was in
Speaker 1: between a sort of like before I started first grade. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets super like super complicated because
Speaker 1: of the nature of this particular man. But I was
Speaker 1: like from that moment on because he cornered me like that.
Speaker 1: And when you were little, like we got to understand this.
Speaker 1: When you're little, you have no reason to disbelieve an
Speaker 1: adult none. So if a guy says he's gonna kill
Speaker 1: your family, he's gonna hear a family. There's no there's
Speaker 1: no like if ans or butts about that. So this
Speaker 1: guy had already managed to figure out that that my
Speaker 1: family and I were not a good match.
Speaker 7: We'll put it that way.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, people would love me to say
Speaker 1: my parents were fabulous. I just got sort of taken,
Speaker 1: but the reality is is that I didn't get along
Speaker 1: as my family and especially my mother. I was like
Speaker 1: majorly ostracized in the family that I grew up in.
Speaker 1: So sociopaths often like to capitalize on that, like the
Speaker 1: kid that doesn't fit in, or the kid no one
Speaker 1: relates to. They're like usually really quiet and sort of off.
Speaker 7: To the corn.
Speaker 1: That's a really good venue for them to kind of
Speaker 1: get in between the parents and the kid, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what he did. So when he told me that
Speaker 1: he would be there, that was like I really look
Speaker 1: at that as sort of the end of my whole childhood,
Speaker 1: because from that moment on, it's like it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: whether I'm going on a hike with my family or
Speaker 1: a camping trip, or whether I'm at school, there's always
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, where is he going
Speaker 1: to be? It's that scary sort of he's all around
Speaker 1: and could be anywhere at any point type of thing
Speaker 1: which drives you nuts when you're in this kind of
Speaker 1: a situation. So that's when he started systematically without my
Speaker 1: parents' knowledge, taking me places, like he'd take me from
Speaker 1: dance class. Sometimes he takes me from school. And we
Speaker 1: have to understand too. When I went to school, it
Speaker 1: was not like it is now. You don't have to
Speaker 1: you didn't have to like take pictures of people who
Speaker 1: could pick your kid up. Nobody knew about this stuff,
Speaker 1: especially not in the bigger cities. I mean, everything hits
Speaker 1: rural towns like five years too late or ten years
Speaker 1: too late. So nobody really thought that this was a possibility.
Speaker 1: And so what would happen is he sent me to
Speaker 1: school after the first time, of course, of like just
Speaker 1: calling the school and saying Tilney's to meet us outside,
Speaker 1: and then me walking outside having a behin there. Instead
Speaker 1: of my parents, he would send me to school with
Speaker 1: in my lunch box with these notes written from my
Speaker 1: parents that I was to hand in after they took role,
Speaker 1: and they would say Tilneys to come to gymnastics class
Speaker 1: or something, and we're going to pick her up at
Speaker 1: this time, and my little elementary school was on the
Speaker 1: grounds of a college campus. Edith Bowen was where I
Speaker 1: went to, and so they couldn't monitor like where people
Speaker 1: were or weren't. There's adults all the time wandering in
Speaker 1: and out of the children because it was on a
Speaker 1: college campus, so it wasn't like there would be any
Speaker 1: red flags if there was a random person that showed up.
Speaker 1: And so he would say park his truck and then
Speaker 1: I would get out, and they'd be like, gen, need
Speaker 1: someone walk you out. I'd say no, and so I'd
Speaker 1: go out and I'd get in his car and then
Speaker 1: he'd have me gone for the whole day and then
Speaker 1: bring me back and drop me off before my parents
Speaker 1: would pick me up. So that was a routine that
Speaker 1: went on for a while. Then he stole me out
Speaker 1: of bed a few times as well. Before he trained
Speaker 1: me to wake up, which was quite easy for him
Speaker 1: to do. He just employed like your basic pav laws
Speaker 1: response stuff. So I would wake up three twenty two am,
Speaker 1: walk out to the end of the driveway and he'd
Speaker 1: pick me up and we'd go do these cult rituals.
Speaker 1: So this is so I'll explain this person the context
Speaker 1: of my childhood isn't going to make sense unless I
Speaker 1: do that. Because the particular man who was what they
Speaker 1: call my keeper in this group had multiple personality issues,
Speaker 1: like big ones where one minute you'd call him by
Speaker 1: one name and he wouldn't even know who you were
Speaker 1: talking to, you know, and then he'd have these So
Speaker 1: basically he had these. Like a personality which I would
Speaker 1: often call Doc was like the all knowing the one
Speaker 1: that most people in the society saw. And he was
Speaker 1: like a really educated, super charismatic or typical sociopath type
Speaker 1: of a person who could have just pulled one on anybody.
Speaker 1: He was really friendly, really charming, super handsome, So that
Speaker 1: was that personality. The other personality, which he called Eggniver ironically,
Speaker 1: was like super evil and was part of these Satanic groups.
Speaker 1: So here we have this dichotomy. So you've got the
Speaker 1: multiple personalities with this person. And depending on which personality
Speaker 1: he had, he belonged to this group or this group,
Speaker 1: he belonged to two cults. One cult was that Satanic cult.
Speaker 1: The other cult was the Blood Covenant cult. Now it
Speaker 1: gets ironic is that they're against each other. This is
Speaker 1: where if you really want to know about some messed
Speaker 1: up stuff that happens when you're too bored in a
Speaker 1: rural town and have some issues. The Blood Covenant cult
Speaker 1: doesn't take the opinion.
Speaker 4: Now, this shit is what I'm talking about. You know,
Speaker 4: when people are lying, the story seems to like feel
Speaker 4: scripted and shit. And this is a lot of detail,
Speaker 4: right he would have had split personality, and he belonged
Speaker 4: to two Warren colts, and he was this guy to
Speaker 4: this cult and this guy to this I mean, it's
Speaker 4: getting at the horseback riding and stuff, the notes for
Speaker 4: this to get out of school and stuff. It does
Speaker 4: seem a little detailed and specific. So I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: points towards the truth on this, points towards her being
Speaker 4: a fake, staged porn star Cuchi Rubs selling psychotic woman
Speaker 4: the name Teal Swan. She's got horrible extensions in right now,
Speaker 4: some kind of Pirates of the Caribbean shirt on wherever
Speaker 4: she's at right now is giving me the creeps. Why
Speaker 4: would you paint all your walls white like this, have
Speaker 4: a random two by four in the background in some
Speaker 4: grandma desk. They need work on their background.
Speaker 1: But let's continue and turn the other cheek they don't
Speaker 1: agree with that. What they believe is that it's your
Speaker 1: direct job to rid the earth of evil. So they're
Speaker 1: aware that there are Satanic groups that operate in the
Speaker 1: towns that they're living in. So what they do is
Speaker 1: they use somebody that's part of the group to infiltrate
Speaker 1: the Satanic group so that they can hold counter rituals.
Speaker 7: So let's say that in Satanic people have like if
Speaker 7: you look at.
Speaker 1: Their calendar year, it's at least once or twice a
Speaker 1: month they have some kind of holiday. So what they'll do,
Speaker 1: say if they have like a Black Sabbath day, is
Speaker 1: that they the next day, the Blood Covenant group will
Speaker 1: will like hold it return back to the Light of Christ.
Speaker 7: Type of ritual.
Speaker 1: So and it's like, here you have mainstream Mormonism and
Speaker 1: mainstream society, and they're completely unaware of these things that
Speaker 1: are happening on the undercurrent here of these two rival
Speaker 1: groups basically that are more than aware of each other.
Speaker 7: So the man I was with.
Speaker 1: Was attending both of these ceremonies but saying to the
Speaker 1: Blood Covenant group that he was just doing the Satanic
Speaker 1: group stuff for the sake of holding counter riginals. So
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, good, yeah, you can continue to do
Speaker 1: that because it benefits us. But from my perspective, he
Speaker 1: actually liked that and was really participating with it. So
Speaker 1: that's where it got super complicated.
Speaker 7: But over the.
Speaker 1: Course of so that was when I was six. It
Speaker 1: was when I was infiltrating. I infiltrated these groups with him.
Speaker 1: He was using me in the Satanic group as look
Speaker 1: at her abilities. She's got all these amazing abilities. You
Speaker 1: can use them to invoke the devil and demons and
Speaker 1: things like that. And then simultaneously I'm getting like tortured
Speaker 1: by the Blood Covenant group because it was their idea
Speaker 1: that they could get the demon out of me. That
Speaker 1: was their whole philosophy. The reason that I could do
Speaker 1: this stuff is that my body was taken over by
Speaker 1: a demon and that when I was two, I kicked
Speaker 1: that spirit out and I took it over basically, and
Speaker 1: that if they could get this demon out, that that
Speaker 1: spirit would come back.
Speaker 7: That was their whole thing. So they went to.
Speaker 1: Work like bleeding me, doing all kinds of horrific stuff
Speaker 1: to try to get me to come back to Christ.
Speaker 1: So my childhood from age what I consider six, even
Speaker 1: though technically it started beforehand, but it was when I
Speaker 1: really consider like the end of my childhood, when I
Speaker 1: got brought into them and I really didn't belong to
Speaker 1: my parents anymore. All the way to nineteen, I was
Speaker 1: with these groups, and specifically with this man. Now, when
Speaker 1: you are part of a lot of these groups, and
Speaker 1: now we're talking Satanic specifically, what they'll do is they'll
Speaker 1: assign somebody like me. They call me an oracle. An
Speaker 1: oracles is a role where somebody has the ability to
Speaker 1: access the underworld or whatever. So we oracles are not
Speaker 1: actually allowed to take care of ourselves at all. Now,
Speaker 1: having grown up, I can see that this is just
Speaker 1: a ploy, of course, to keep us completely.
Speaker 7: Dependent, unable to leave.
Speaker 1: But we are not able to cook for ourselves, we're
Speaker 1: not able to clean for ourselves, we're not able to
Speaker 1: do any self care type of behavior. Instead, we're assigned
Speaker 1: a keeper. Of course, it was obvious, let's just give
Speaker 1: her to the person who brought her to us, right,
Speaker 1: which is this particular guy, and he becomes the keeper role.
Speaker 1: So his job is to make sure that I am
Speaker 1: where I'm supposed to be. He's the one driving me,
Speaker 1: he's the one feeding me. He's the one that's making
Speaker 1: sure things are the way they are now. The reason
Speaker 1: that my childhood is a lot more complicated than most
Speaker 1: is because I didn't get outright taken away from my
Speaker 1: parents and kept somewhere without their knowledge. What happened is
Speaker 1: that he ended up when I the older that I got.
Speaker 1: When I was eight years old, my parents decided to
Speaker 1: get me a horse. So there was his perfect opportunity
Speaker 1: to come into the family and like really weasel his
Speaker 1: way in there so that knowledgeably they would give me
Speaker 1: to him. Basically, he was like, Okay, I'll be your
Speaker 1: vet for your horse, and I'll teach her everything she
Speaker 1: needs to know about horses. And my parents, you know,
Speaker 1: in their defense, they were like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with this kid. She's obviously miserable. We have
Speaker 1: no idea why she's got these abilities. We don't understand,
Speaker 1: we don't really relate to her, and so if we
Speaker 1: can find somebody that could help her with something, then
Speaker 1: let's just do that. And so, thinking that it would
Speaker 1: be like a mentorship, they allowed me to go on
Speaker 1: weekends with him up to his house, or on rounds
Speaker 1: during the day.
Speaker 7: Stuff like that. Thinking the whole time that you know,
Speaker 7: at least somebody knows how to help her.
Speaker 1: But he was creating the very condition that he said
Speaker 1: that he was solving. Basically, Yeah, so that's that's.
Speaker 7: How we'll start. I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 1: This is the sort of issues they're like, there's so
Speaker 1: many details you're going over like thirteen years basically of
Speaker 1: really horrific shit.
Speaker 7: There's so many, so many things that happened.
Speaker 1: It's like hard for me to know exactly which ones
Speaker 1: people want to hear about and chronologically lay them out.
Speaker 6: So you can keep going, I mean, all the way
Speaker 6: Upstrough when you got out and whatever you're comfortable talking about.
Speaker 6: I know you said that he took you to his house.
Speaker 6: When what we I mean, what sort of things were
Speaker 6: happening there?
Speaker 1: Well, first time I went to his house, my parents
Speaker 1: allowed me my first time when I was eight years
Speaker 1: old with my horse. So we went up to his
Speaker 1: house and it was a super rainy day and we
Speaker 1: ended up that night going on this horse ride in
Speaker 1: the rain, and he was training these two horses and
Speaker 1: he was super sadistic, like really really sadistic, so he
Speaker 1: thought it was super funny even though I was petrified,
Speaker 1: even though it was a horse freak. I was super
Speaker 1: petrified at that age of like horses being so small.
Speaker 1: So I was riding this horse that I had just
Speaker 1: barely got for my birthday for the very first time,
Speaker 1: and he had this super insane horse that was just
Speaker 1: barely being trained, who was a twin And with twin horses,
Speaker 1: if you separate the mount basically they throw fits and
Speaker 1: they try to get back to the other one. So
Speaker 1: he thought it was super funny, like to like let
Speaker 1: it go and let it run up on the back
Speaker 1: of my horse. So when he did that, my horse
Speaker 1: steps over this embankment, which is like this huge drop off,
Speaker 1: and I had this enormous horse fall basically where I
Speaker 1: fell down this embankment and looked up to watch my
Speaker 1: horse fall back over onto her back into a somersault backwards,
Speaker 1: and of course he comes down.
Speaker 7: He starts yelling.
Speaker 1: He was a real sort of Western Bravado type of
Speaker 1: a person. There was no gentleness about.
Speaker 7: Him at all.
Speaker 1: So he stood over me and he was like, you
Speaker 1: get back on that horse right now. I'm shivering, the
Speaker 1: horse is shaking. I feel paralyzed. Can't do it because
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. He threw me down on the
Speaker 1: floor and then he stepped on both of my arms
Speaker 1: and actually ended up paralyine fracturing them. So I ended
Speaker 1: up getting me back on my horse rode to the house.
Speaker 1: Later that night he ended up raping me. He had
Speaker 1: a wife, ironically, who was not there.
Speaker 7: Then I have no idea where he was.
Speaker 1: And then as punishment, I was put down in the basement,
Speaker 1: which was like this little cement.
Speaker 7: It was like a cellar.
Speaker 1: It's just a cement part of his house basically, and
Speaker 1: like it was common for him not to let me
Speaker 1: do normal things like sleep in beds. My place that
Speaker 1: I could sleep was in the bathtub with no blankets,
Speaker 1: and he would make me eat out of the dog
Speaker 1: bulls and drink out of the dog bulls. I wasn't
Speaker 1: allowed to pee or anything inside. I had to go
Speaker 1: outside for that. So that was that that day. When
Speaker 1: I went up there first too, he ended up showing
Speaker 1: me these polaroid pictures, which is where it got really creepy.
Speaker 1: So this man actually killed children, And what he would
Speaker 1: do in his drawer of his office is he kept
Speaker 1: a polaroid camera and with every kid that he killed,
Speaker 1: he would keep a stack of the exact same positions
Speaker 1: that he would take a picture of every kid in.
Speaker 1: So one of them was like, you had to be
Speaker 1: looking at the camera with your eyes up like that
Speaker 1: because he liked the whites of the eyes because that
Speaker 1: looked super innocent. And then he'd take a profile to
Speaker 1: both sides and he'd take a straight up and then
Speaker 1: he would basically he take this stack.
Speaker 7: Of polaroids and he'd keep them.
Speaker 1: So he walked me out to the back and I
Speaker 1: didn't see this particular murder take place like I saw
Speaker 1: other ones happen. But he took me out to his
Speaker 1: back place, and he had a lawn that sort of
Speaker 1: abudded this enormous wilderness, and there was like a piece
Speaker 1: of earth that was obviously dug up. And he gave
Speaker 1: me this polaroid stack of pictures of this little like
Speaker 1: I would say, I would probably guess she was a
Speaker 1: five year old like little blonde girl. And he told
Speaker 1: me basically that he was keeping her safe.
Speaker 7: This is where it is. So that was his dysfunction.
Speaker 1: His dysfunction was basically that by having these kids, especially girls,
Speaker 1: in his property, that he could keep them safe that way.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting there looking at this picture, looking
Speaker 1: at the grave, looking at the picture. Now, I can't
Speaker 1: tell you that I know for a fact she was there,
Speaker 1: because I didn't witness it, but having seen him kill
Speaker 1: other children after that, I have no reason to doubt
Speaker 1: that that was. What I was seeing was basically these
Speaker 1: polaroids of a kid he had killed and then buried
Speaker 1: in his backyard. So you know, that was my first
Speaker 1: really lovely introduction to him. Then very quickly after that,
Speaker 1: he started in with the intentional programming. So most people
Speaker 1: who are part of these groups, they get into mental programming,
Speaker 1: and most of the mental programming routines that they carry
Speaker 1: out they have found from these documents, which are mostly
Speaker 1: written in German. I don't know where they've gotten them.
Speaker 1: But one of my first programming sessions was performed in
Speaker 1: a veterinary office. I walked in there and it was
Speaker 1: not just my keeper, it was also another guy who
Speaker 1: had his face was covered in black mesh like he
Speaker 1: didn't want me to know who he was. Later I
Speaker 1: did meet him and know exactly who he was. Because
Speaker 1: the older you get in these groups, now suddenly you
Speaker 1: become part of the perpetrator circle and you're now working
Speaker 1: on younger children. So at that beginning, I didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was and he just had that black stocking,
Speaker 1: and so what he was doing was a basic bonding program.
Speaker 1: So if you look at these these mental programming sessions
Speaker 1: that they do on children, it's a very it seems complicated,
Speaker 1: but it's actually more easy than it. So it's basically
Speaker 1: a twelve program psych One of the very first things
Speaker 1: you want to do programming a child is to bond
Speaker 1: them to the perpetrator. So what you do is you
Speaker 1: induce a trauma. So the way that they like to
Speaker 1: do that is to use electric shocks, which is sipper easy.
Speaker 1: You just buy a kit basically. So I was sitting
Speaker 1: there that first day. They are putting these white pads
Speaker 1: with a little gel underneath them all over my body
Speaker 1: and then they turn on the electric shocks, so you
Speaker 1: get traumatized.
Speaker 7: I pissed myself.
Speaker 1: It's like being electrocute to this pretty much the most
Speaker 1: unbearable thing you can imagine. So that induces the state
Speaker 1: of trauma in the system. And then what this man
Speaker 1: was instructing the guy to do is you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to touch someone like me who's being programmed. If you're
Speaker 1: the perpetrator, unless you're doing it to specifically bond the
Speaker 1: person to you. So the way you do that is
Speaker 1: by becoming in like the savior. So the only point
Speaker 1: at which this man was allowed to show me physical
Speaker 1: affection is when I was in a state of trauma.
Speaker 1: So he induces the trauma with that, and then he
Speaker 1: tells this guy, Mike.
Speaker 7: Keeper to hold me.
Speaker 1: It's like it's very bizarre sensation, even though this person
Speaker 1: is the one that's traumatizing you. Simultaneously, it's like the
Speaker 1: relief feeling you feel when somebody hugs you, regardless of
Speaker 1: who they are, when you're going through that kind of trauma.
Speaker 1: It's like this unbelievable chemical bond almost that goes on
Speaker 1: in your body. So I remember that feeling of like
Speaker 1: intense relief and just holding onto him after that was happening,
Speaker 1: and so that really creates in the mind this circuitry
Speaker 1: where I love this guy. This guy is the person
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to follow around, and it's like it's we're
Speaker 1: past love at this point. It's like an excessive type
Speaker 1: of dependence. And you'll watch this a lot with victims
Speaker 1: who have been traumatized and we deliberately in groups, will
Speaker 1: program for it to create a scenario where the person
Speaker 1: is like trauma bonded to the very person who's creating
Speaker 1: the issue. You can observe this in animals even so,
Speaker 1: like you know, the dog who gets kicked by their
Speaker 1: owner is like the one who's underneath them wagging their tail,
Speaker 1: and they're constantly obsessed with whether they're going to get approval,
Speaker 1: whether they're going to get approval. So if you're if
Speaker 1: your life rests in somebody's hands, you your life is
Speaker 1: going to be about one thing, one thing only, and
Speaker 1: that's finding approval from that person.
Speaker 7: It's it. So there you have trauma bonding.
Speaker 1: So my relationship with this man from that point on
Speaker 1: turn turned to this like excessive attachment. I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with getting his approval no matter what, because my life
Speaker 1: is in his hands. And then so we were attending
Speaker 1: rituals we're doing I mean, he was doing messed up
Speaker 1: stuff with me on his own, but we were attending rituals.
Speaker 1: Also rituals where they did murder children and animals. Animals
Speaker 1: is what they did, like on your average holiday, but
Speaker 1: on the big ones, which they call black masses, which
Speaker 1: is probably what the public would like to know about
Speaker 1: most where Basically, it's where basically, and it's just mostly
Speaker 1: Satanic people. These covens of like thirteen usually because they
Speaker 1: believe in thirteen silver moons. In a year, there's thirteen
Speaker 1: full moon, so it's usually thirteen members of a Satanic coven.
Speaker 7: They'll get together with other covens in.
Speaker 1: The area for these big black masses they call them,
Speaker 1: and those are on specific days throughout the year.
Speaker 7: So on a few of.
Speaker 1: Those I watched them actually kill children, and that's when
Speaker 1: we really got into the human sacrifice thing, which is
Speaker 1: what most people want to interview me about, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's like so abhorrent and most people can't even
Speaker 1: imagine that going on. So when I got older, I
Speaker 1: found out how they actually found these children. When I
Speaker 1: was younger, they would use me and other kids who
Speaker 1: are part of the groups to entice these children into
Speaker 1: the car. It's a very stereotypical act. All you do
Speaker 1: is you case the neighborhood, which is easy because they're
Speaker 1: bored and looking for ways to excite themselves and they're
Speaker 1: really statistic fetishes anyways, So they case the neighborhoods for
Speaker 1: kids that are not being watched. Their number one favorite
Speaker 1: group is children who are part of the foster care system.
Speaker 1: So there's a loophole in our foster care system in
Speaker 1: this United States and West specifically. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's super bad out east, but out West as a
Speaker 1: really bad loophole where basically, if you want to foster
Speaker 1: children because they're so overrun with children to foster, then
Speaker 1: they'll give you the kid and you get your monthly
Speaker 1: stipen check. And so there was a lot of these
Speaker 1: families who, especially in the Idaho area that I met,
Speaker 1: who they foster children, not because they really want to
Speaker 1: foster children, but they want that check every month. So
Speaker 1: these parents are it's like really horrific they get these
Speaker 1: kids from the foster care system.
Speaker 4: This is some sick shit right here, because I just
Speaker 4: sold my I was selling a bunch of stuff on
Speaker 4: Facebook marketplace, right and I just sold my baby's crib
Speaker 4: to this lady. She hit me up on Facebook. I
Speaker 4: had it posted for like eighty bucks and she hit
Speaker 4: me with this sob story, and you know, I got
Speaker 4: a delicate's heart. Okay, you know, I was just not
Speaker 4: in the mood to be hearing about this sad shit,
Speaker 4: and it just killed me. She was like, I'm fostering
Speaker 4: six four month old essentially what we would call crack babies,
Speaker 4: and I just really need a crib. I'm feeding my
Speaker 4: baby right now, his little bottle, a little sweetie, and
Speaker 4: it just I was like, oh my god, this woman
Speaker 4: is literally fostering six four month old little crackheaded babies
Speaker 4: and she needs a crib. She said, I can have
Speaker 4: my son come pick it up right now, would you
Speaker 4: take fifty dollars? And I was like, of course, Like
Speaker 4: that just broke my heart. And you want to think
Speaker 4: that people who sign up for that stuff, okay, people
Speaker 4: who would sign up for fostering six four month old
Speaker 4: crackheaded babies, they would be like a saint, like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, how selfless is this person. I can barely
Speaker 4: handle the one and he's not even crackheaded, okay. And
Speaker 4: then you get to hear and stuff like this. And
Speaker 4: I've heard other foster people, you know, foster kids say this.
Speaker 4: Father foster families were horrorball okay, horra baal. And you
Speaker 4: know they don't be looking into who's fostering these kids.
Speaker 4: They I bet they don't even really do home checkings
Speaker 4: and shit like that. They get their monthly stipen okay,
Speaker 4: for their fosters, and that's what they They count on them,
Speaker 4: a little foster stipend checks to come in and they'd
Speaker 4: be doing some nefarious shit because they don't love. There's
Speaker 4: no way they could be loving these kids like they
Speaker 4: were their own. Okay, it's not realistic and it's a shame.
Speaker 4: That's really fucking fucked up and sad.
Speaker 1: So they tell them, I don't want to be watching you,
Speaker 1: so just come home at eight o'clock, and I don't
Speaker 1: want you to come home before eight o'clock.
Speaker 7: So they're wandering around.
Speaker 1: They go to public school, and then between when public
Speaker 1: school gets out at eight o'clock at night, when a're
Speaker 1: supposed to be home, they are wandering around.
Speaker 7: Basically, they had nothing to do.
Speaker 1: And it's a prime target for these groups because they
Speaker 1: find out these kids, they know exactly where they're walking
Speaker 1: to and from school, and then when they take them,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets really super messed up if
Speaker 1: you take one of these foster kids.
Speaker 7: I'll back up.
Speaker 1: So the foster care people, they check in on kids
Speaker 1: that are being fostered, right, but their caseloads are.
Speaker 7: Huge as well. So even they'll tell you we're really overrun.
Speaker 1: We can't get to everybody, and like we try, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like once every six months, once every year.
Speaker 1: So let's say that you're one of these families that
Speaker 1: is just using that income for the foster care kids
Speaker 1: to support your family, and you don't want to lose
Speaker 1: that check. Now, if the kid disappears, bam, and you
Speaker 1: go and you tell someone.
Speaker 7: Then your monthly check's not gonna come.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these kids that we're getting are
Speaker 1: from families like that, where it's like if they disappeared,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna.
Speaker 7: Say anything to the government. You're kidding me.
Speaker 1: They're gonna wait to the last possible second to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: oh I don't know, they ran away or something. So
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look up at the statistics of
Speaker 1: the amount of like runaway missing children that there are
Speaker 1: in this country, it's gonna blow your mind. I mean
Speaker 1: children we never find again, not kids that run away
Speaker 1: in and they come back. We're talking kids that never
Speaker 1: show up again. It's literally gonna blow your mind.
Speaker 7: So the fact that.
Speaker 1: The country is like, wow, how does anybody not notice
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, how did that mean? How
Speaker 1: does that many thousands, hundreds of thousands of children go
Speaker 1: missing every year and nobody knows? And then people are like, well,
Speaker 1: how do people not hear these things happening? Have you
Speaker 1: ever been to the Utah Nahol You can go ten
Speaker 1: minutes off of the side of any road and nobody
Speaker 1: will hear you ever again. So this is like a
Speaker 1: really good window that people have here in this particular
Speaker 1: state to get away with super deviant activity. Another way
Speaker 1: that they like to find these children and procure children
Speaker 1: is by going to the illegal immigrant communities. Those are
Speaker 1: super easy to find. Anybody who wants to hire somebody
Speaker 1: from home depot in the morning can figure out how
Speaker 1: to find them. So what they do is they follow
Speaker 1: those kids and they take those kids also. And this
Speaker 1: is why they take those kids. If you're an illegal
Speaker 1: immigrant and your children get taken or your child and
Speaker 1: you go to the police office and you say my
Speaker 1: kid is missing, they say give me your ID now.
Speaker 1: If they find out that you're illegal, they will deport you.
Speaker 1: So you have an option basically, as a parent who's
Speaker 1: lost a child inside this country. Either you don't say
Speaker 1: anything and you look by yourself for a kid that's missing,
Speaker 1: or you get deported to an entirely different country than
Speaker 1: the one that your kid is now missing in. So
Speaker 1: obviously most parents opt to not say anything in to
Speaker 1: search by themselves. So that's basically the two biggest group
Speaker 1: ways that they find these these children essentially that they
Speaker 1: take in. Sometimes they'll kill them that night. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: will keep them for months at a time. And they
Speaker 1: have like a lot some of the members will have
Speaker 1: these these lava tubes. So in Idaho they have lava
Speaker 1: tubes all over the place. And so like on private land,
Speaker 1: it's not uncommon to like find something of us, like
Speaker 1: a sinkhole that's on the property. And so if it's
Speaker 1: a big enough sinkhole, then what they'll do is they'll
Speaker 1: keep these kids in there in animal cages, so just
Speaker 1: like the one you'd buy like a classic German shepherd
Speaker 1: or something, and they'll keep them in there for months,
Speaker 1: leading them up to these ritual ceremonies.
Speaker 7: So yeah, we were used for that, which is like Heillinis.
Speaker 6: You talked about your keeper doing multiple things to you.
Speaker 6: He raped you, he kept you in the bathtub. What
Speaker 6: else did he do to you.
Speaker 1: His favorite things to do is to chase me through
Speaker 1: the woods. He was obsessed with survival stuff, and so
Speaker 1: he played these tracking games. He called them in retrospect,
Speaker 1: it's like the creepiest thing in the world to me.
Speaker 1: But when I was going through it, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's just doing this for my own good. He was
Speaker 1: teaching me how to escape demons by being completely untrackable.
Speaker 1: So so he would like, say he'd be driving and
Speaker 1: he'd just start counting. It was like he would switch
Speaker 1: into these different personalities sometimes, so he'd be driving and
Speaker 1: suddenly he'd be like twenty nineteen eighteen, he'd like pull
Speaker 1: over the side of the road.
Speaker 7: And that was my key to that.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to get out of the car and
Speaker 1: then run basically, and I was supposed to evade him.
Speaker 1: And so it was like for a time period of
Speaker 1: like two or three hours, I would be trying to
Speaker 1: run away from him while he tracked me, and if
Speaker 1: he caught me, I would get punished, like my rib
Speaker 1: cage is covered in these scars, because.
Speaker 7: He would count coup.
Speaker 1: That was what he believed was some like what enemies
Speaker 1: and the I think as Native American cultures used to
Speaker 1: do is they would count coup on somebody that they
Speaker 1: would triumph over, so I have slits in my ribcage from.
Speaker 7: Each time that he won.
Speaker 1: Essentially those tracking games and rape was also a part
Speaker 1: of that, but they didn't mind that as much as
Speaker 1: being like, you know, having a knife drawn across in
Speaker 1: my rib cage. And if I got away, then I
Speaker 1: would get rewarded either with a tutsie roll or with
Speaker 1: a lesson, because he liked to teach me things. So
Speaker 1: like if I got away from him and it was
Speaker 1: two hours had gone by and he hadn't found me,
Speaker 1: he would do a whistle and I would come back,
Speaker 1: and then he'd be like super congratulatory, and then he
Speaker 1: would teach me something about quantum physics, or teach me
Speaker 1: something about what herbs I could eat outdoors if I
Speaker 1: was ever in a survival situation, or he'd teached me
Speaker 1: an extra thing about how to cover my tracks so
Speaker 1: nobody knew where I was. So it's like back then,
Speaker 1: I got really proud of myself when I would get
Speaker 1: away from him, instead of realizing that I was being
Speaker 1: chased through the woods by somebody who killed children, which
Speaker 1: is what the sort of reality is retrospects.
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I don't even know what to do but
Speaker 7: laugh because it's like so messed up.
Speaker 3: How many children did you watch him kill?
Speaker 7: I can remember well him specifically, not the group of five.
Speaker 6: See you you physically watched him kill five. How many
Speaker 6: did the group did you witness?
Speaker 1: Probably seven over the course of my life, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't counted them exactly.
Speaker 3: But there were a significant amount.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And this wasn't just a we're going to shoot you
Speaker 3: and get it over. What there was pain.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you want to go into detail of
Speaker 6: how this happened, you're want to welcome to but talk
Speaker 6: to me a little bit about what you witnessed.
Speaker 1: Well. With him, it was always it was always the
Speaker 1: same scenario when he killed boys. I didn't watch him
Speaker 1: kill girls. I don't think.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember when I watched him killed boys. What
Speaker 7: it was was that he would get them off.
Speaker 1: The side of the road and then he would bring
Speaker 1: them to a house or another location, and then he
Speaker 1: would have the boys kiss me, almost like he was
Speaker 1: getting off, so he'd be jacking off all he was
Speaker 1: watching the little boy do whatever he was doing with me,
Speaker 1: and then it was like something would snap, and he
Speaker 1: would go into this completely other mode of like jealousy,
Speaker 1: rage and so as if he was mad that the
Speaker 1: boys were touching even though he was the one that
Speaker 1: told them to.
Speaker 7: He would grab them and like brutally beat.
Speaker 1: Them to death, or in one occasion, he hacked them
Speaker 1: to death with a small axe.
Speaker 7: That was him on his own. With the ritual group,
Speaker 7: they're not like that. It's not like a.
Speaker 1: Hodgepodge emotionally induced type of the thing. It's more like
Speaker 1: what's creepy about the group is it's more like there's
Speaker 1: zero emotion involved in it, where their number one way
Speaker 1: is to do it on ritual bonfire. So they would
Speaker 1: have in like this black mass I'll tell you one
Speaker 1: of them, because this is pretty much what it was
Speaker 1: like most of the time. So we were in Idaho
Speaker 1: wilderness right outside of this I guess if you go
Speaker 1: from Preston, Idaho and you drive up this side canyon,
Speaker 1: you're in this huge aspen grove. And so we were
Speaker 1: up there, probably five minutes walk from one of the
Speaker 1: main roads that was winding through that particular area, and
Speaker 1: we were all brought to this place where people were
Speaker 1: wearing these gold masks with like purple robes, and then
Speaker 1: some people were wearing black masks or blaming black robes
Speaker 1: with white masks. So they're all standing in this grove
Speaker 1: a lot more than just the coven that I had
Speaker 1: been introduced to. It was probably three or four covens,
Speaker 1: so I would say in total, probably forty something people
Speaker 1: were at this particular gathering.
Speaker 7: So we're standing there.
Speaker 1: They're doing like a chanting, so they're around the circle
Speaker 1: and they're reading I guess from Old Tide, no idea
Speaker 1: what language it was. Most of them didn't explain these
Speaker 1: types of things to me when I was a kid.
Speaker 7: I just was watching it.
Speaker 1: So I'm standing there and through the woods come these
Speaker 1: two men and they had like a pole kind of
Speaker 1: like you'd use for a tea peopole, and there was
Speaker 1: a little girl. I'm guessing again she was probably five.
Speaker 1: She was super tiny. She was Mexican and oriented. I
Speaker 1: can tell because she had the dark skin and everything.
Speaker 7: So they had.
Speaker 1: Taken her and she was tied up, so they had
Speaker 1: put this tea peopole thing there, and then they tied
Speaker 1: her hands and her legs up to it, so it
Speaker 1: was like her face was facing down right, and these
Speaker 1: two men were carrying her in towards this enormous fire
Speaker 1: that they had made. And to make a fire hot
Speaker 1: enough to burn a human body is like you have
Speaker 1: to make it really, really hot, So they had to
Speaker 1: be burning it probably since the morning, way before I
Speaker 1: ever got there. But they ended up doing a ritual
Speaker 1: with her, and then they just picked her up and
Speaker 1: put her right down over the top of the fire. No,
Speaker 1: it is one of the most perfect things you'll ever watch,
Speaker 1: not because it's like they actually die pretty quickly that way,
Speaker 1: because the second that they get over that immense amount
Speaker 1: of heat, they take their first in breath and they're gone,
Speaker 1: and it basically sees your lungs to the point in
Speaker 1: a return. But the most horrid thing is just watching
Speaker 1: and like I remember it is when they put her
Speaker 1: in her hair was dissolved instantaneously. It's like when you
Speaker 1: put hair in fire, it just disappears. So not only that,
Speaker 1: what most people have never thought about and don't see
Speaker 1: is that the skin just like liquefies and it starts
Speaker 1: to fall off of the body in sheets, so that
Speaker 1: I was watching it fall into the fire like that,
Speaker 1: and then pretty soon we were left with basically only
Speaker 1: bones and like sinews and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what they do with the bones that they
Speaker 1: do in those rituals because usually we leave before anything's
Speaker 1: cleaned up. It takes quite a while for a body
Speaker 1: to completely burn.
Speaker 7: So that was a pretty.
Speaker 1: Typical way of killing them. And this you have to
Speaker 1: know too, for the different holidays. It requires killing people
Speaker 1: in different ways in different ages. So some of the
Speaker 1: rituals require aborted fetuses, some of them require tiny babies,
Speaker 1: others require like a woman who's in the prime of
Speaker 1: her reproductive cycle, things like that. And if they if
Speaker 1: they take a woman who's in the prime for reproductive cycle,
Speaker 1: the way that you kill them, who is by slicing
Speaker 1: them across the road?
Speaker 6: How how did you not fall victim to being a sacrifice?
Speaker 7: I would love that.
Speaker 1: I would love to tell you that I know exactly
Speaker 1: why I don't like it. Then, looking back from an
Speaker 1: adult standpoint, it's like I can see a few times
Speaker 1: where it got really close, really really close, and I
Speaker 1: think what it was. If I'm an adventurer, I guess
Speaker 1: I think it was the because of what I was
Speaker 1: capable of doing with these abilities that they really did
Speaker 1: believe in that why would you get rid of your
Speaker 1: access to the underworld? Why would you get rid of
Speaker 1: I mean, they used to drink my blood rituals on purpose,
Speaker 1: thinking that if they did that, they'd have protection or
Speaker 1: be able to see into the future, things like that.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't it wouldn't make sense, I guess, to
Speaker 1: sacrifice that. And also if you have somebody with these
Speaker 1: insane occult abilities, basically I guess there was some part
Speaker 1: of them that hoped to groom me for a matriarchal position,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of the Satanic groups are highly matriarchal,
Speaker 1: not patriarchal. This is another thing which might surprise people
Speaker 1: to know. So like usually instead of there being a
Speaker 1: primary male priest that's like presiding over all, these women
Speaker 1: in the patriarchy is what keeps everyone down a lot
Speaker 1: of times. It's a super deviant matriarchal character, like the
Speaker 1: Crone type of character, who is the one who's telling
Speaker 1: people what to do and is orchestrating these huge events
Speaker 1: and things like that. So I could assume they are
Speaker 1: probably grooming me for that particular position, because when I
Speaker 1: turned thirteen, the tables flipped, even though I was still
Speaker 1: getting like tortured by them, programmed by them everything, because
Speaker 1: you have to reinstate programs like some of them will
Speaker 1: stick longer other ones. You have to read program over
Speaker 1: and over again to make sure that those neuropathways stay
Speaker 1: completely fresh in the brain. So besides that, though, the
Speaker 1: tables were turned and I was now flipped into a
Speaker 1: position of working with the younger children's programming them, which
Speaker 1: worked for my therapy because I know how they do it.
Speaker 1: So if I know how they do it, I now
Speaker 1: know how to d program myself. And it's beneficial also
Speaker 1: because I can teach you know, these people who are
Speaker 1: working in the profession of ritual trauma psychologists and things,
Speaker 1: I could teach them how to d program now. But
Speaker 1: that was originally why I didn't want to talk to
Speaker 1: people about what was going on with me. I had
Speaker 1: never planned on telling anybody. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: like sometimes surprising to me that I'm now super public
Speaker 1: about this because none of us are going to talk,
Speaker 1: you know, when we get away, that's where we start.
Speaker 4: So let's just say that she's telling the truth. Okay,
Speaker 4: Let's just say that this is one hundred percent, genuine,
Speaker 4: genuine s R A survivor. Sometimes I wonder how these
Speaker 4: people are able to say the things that they do,
Speaker 4: to come out in public with this stuff, And it
Speaker 4: makes me wonder if it's not just part of the plan,
Speaker 4: part of the plan and to desensitize people on what
Speaker 4: really is going on with this stuff, you know, And
Speaker 4: I sometimes wonder, like, am I a part of the
Speaker 4: problem because I share this stuff with people? And I
Speaker 4: am part of desensitizing people. Like sometimes I'm watching these
Speaker 4: videos and they're like talking about their life as a child,
Speaker 4: and you know, just random stuff, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: come on, did you get raped or not? Did you
Speaker 4: see them meet the babies? What happened to your be hole?
Speaker 4: Let's get into it, Like do I got to pry
Speaker 4: it out of you about your rape story? We're just
Speaker 4: gonna sit here and talk about popsicles for the Like,
Speaker 4: I just I'm becoming desensitized to a degree and also
Speaker 4: skeptic of a lot of these people's testimonies, Like are
Speaker 4: these crazy people? Are they do they just want us
Speaker 4: to think that these are crazy people, so we discount
Speaker 4: how horrific their story is. But it does, you know,
Speaker 4: It's something that I've thought of before. But let's continue.
Speaker 1: I had planned on not telling anybody, especially because I
Speaker 1: was convinced I was going to be put in jail.
Speaker 1: Because when you realize, like, oh, these things are like
Speaker 1: punishable crimes. Oh, you know, you realize I've programmed children,
Speaker 1: I participated in sacrifices.
Speaker 7: And even though it's like.
Speaker 1: It's because you've been traumatized and you have no option.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's too difficult to talk to somebody who's
Speaker 1: been in a space of freedom. You can't really explain
Speaker 1: to them what it's like to mentally be in the
Speaker 1: situation where you would do anything you were told to
Speaker 1: do because you don't have another option, But you get
Speaker 1: there mentally. So even though I had no other option
Speaker 1: than to do these things with these groups, it's like
Speaker 1: the massive amount of guilt that I have a hard
Speaker 1: time getting over.
Speaker 7: And it's the reason I didn't want to talk.
Speaker 1: I don't want to end up in a Jill soul
Speaker 1: because I did something when I was seventeen with a
Speaker 1: cold group that took me in when I was six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you you programmed some of the children that
Speaker 3: were brought into the cult. Did a child ever die
Speaker 3: at your hands?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 7: No, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: What really kills me is that I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: to stop them. It's like when the older I've gotten,
Speaker 1: it's like the more you get out of this haze
Speaker 1: that you get in with these groups, the more that
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like wishing that they would have killed
Speaker 1: me just because.
Speaker 7: I was protesting.
Speaker 1: It's like it would almost be morally better to die
Speaker 1: because you were saying no, then watch and not be
Speaker 1: able to do anything like I felt like I was
Speaker 1: doing for so long.
Speaker 3: So there was a point where you started protesting while
Speaker 3: you were oh.
Speaker 1: No, I never protested. That was my that's my issue.
Speaker 1: That's like my number one guilt.
Speaker 3: That you didn't protest.
Speaker 7: I didn't think it was an option.
Speaker 3: And you were nineteen when you got out yep. And
Speaker 3: how did you.
Speaker 6: Get out and what was the what was it that
Speaker 6: clicked for you or what was that moment when it
Speaker 6: was like, oh crap, I have to get out.
Speaker 1: This is really funny because this is like people love
Speaker 1: me to They want to hear a story where I'm
Speaker 1: basically so excited to be gone finally, and that is
Speaker 1: so the not the way that it went. The way
Speaker 1: that it went is that I was wanting to leave
Speaker 1: to do other things. I was like, because I had
Speaker 1: started modeling. He used to prostitute me when I was younger.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things.
Speaker 7: I haven't talked about that he'd done to me that
Speaker 7: I was like.
Speaker 1: But basically, one of the things he used to do
Speaker 1: is make money by prostituting me hout when I was younger.
Speaker 7: So he'd take.
Speaker 1: Polaroid photographs of me covered in blood, and then he
Speaker 1: would go and like to Wendover was the most typical
Speaker 1: place we went, or sometimes motels just in Logan, Utah,
Speaker 1: are in Preston, Idaho. And what he would do is
Speaker 1: he would sit in the back of his truck. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell he orchestrated this because
Speaker 1: I didn't watch him call these people, but men would
Speaker 1: approach the truck. He'd show them these pullaroid photographs and
Speaker 1: they decide what they would want me to do with them,
Speaker 1: and they'd pay him for it. So like one of
Speaker 1: the most common things to do. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember the back in the day with these gas stations,
Speaker 1: what they used to have with gas stations is an
Speaker 1: outdoor bathroom, not an indoor bathroom, right so what they
Speaker 1: do is pulled it the side and I would go
Speaker 1: into the outdoor bathroom and then the guy would come
Speaker 1: in and then he'd do whatever the hell he wanted
Speaker 1: to rape or have me, you know, perform filatio stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and then they would go back and then
Speaker 1: pay him for it. So he would take me and
Speaker 1: I'd probably see like the most I ever saw in
Speaker 1: the night was eight. Usually it was like two or three.
Speaker 1: And that was how he's making money. But when I
Speaker 1: turned twelve, it's like the guys who were into that
Speaker 1: pedophile stuff, they don't really want to have sex with
Speaker 1: you anymore because you're older. So at first this guy,
Speaker 1: my keeper was super pissed about it. He's losing money, Like,
Speaker 1: I can't deal with the fact that you're getting older.
Speaker 1: This is not okay because you're losing clients. Tell in fact,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay me for the money that
Speaker 1: I'm losing because you're getting tits. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to do that, and he got it in his
Speaker 1: mind that basically, what if she could model, you know,
Speaker 1: that'd be a good idea because she's pretty na. Why
Speaker 1: don't we just see, like what happens there so I
Speaker 1: started I sort of got into it. Like the funny
Speaker 1: part is, it's not like he threw me into the
Speaker 1: modeling thing. Gave me that suggestion, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh bummer. I was like amazed by this other world
Speaker 1: out there because I was growing up in this rural
Speaker 1: town as a like bumpkin kid. Basically even though I
Speaker 1: had educated children all right, sorry, educated parents.
Speaker 7: I had educated parents.
Speaker 1: So even though I had that reality, I sort of
Speaker 1: saw this glamor, you know, in the world of fashion,
Speaker 1: and these women who were like instead of being used
Speaker 1: and destroyed, basically, they were like glorified, and I.
Speaker 7: Loved it the god.
Speaker 1: So I became totally obsessed with modeling, got into it.
Speaker 1: Most of the money that I was making out of modeling,
Speaker 1: I was giving right back to my keeper because that
Speaker 1: was the rule that they're And when I was nineteen
Speaker 1: or so, I had graduated from high school.
Speaker 7: I was sixteen.
Speaker 1: I was incapable of doing anything, which is typical of
Speaker 1: children who are in cults like this, when we're programmed
Speaker 1: with the no self care programs.
Speaker 7: It's like the time that your parents sort of expect
Speaker 7: you to fly, but no.
Speaker 1: I was in and out of hospitals in psychology offices
Speaker 1: every other ten seconds, and they were trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell was going on with me. They
Speaker 1: mentioned abuse more than a hundred times, but like looking
Speaker 1: at my parents and figuring it's not them, They're like, well,
Speaker 1: it can't be abused, so what the hell are we
Speaker 1: looking at? And I slipped through the cracks like a
Speaker 1: lot of children who are part of these cults do,
Speaker 1: even though there are people who suspect. It's like, it
Speaker 1: never occurs to my parents that it's a family friend,
Speaker 1: never occurs to the people that it can be like
Speaker 1: a whole cult group that's super good at doing what
Speaker 1: they do. So it just went unchecked and I was
Speaker 1: like not functioning. But I still had these sort of
Speaker 1: dreams of being a model. So I had planned to
Speaker 1: get away from him for just a little bit to
Speaker 1: go do some modeling. I was not planning on running away.
Speaker 1: I'll just like go there and now and tell you.
Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd ever be gone. So it was
Speaker 1: just like I need to go on a trip, which
Speaker 1: was not allowed. The last time I'd gone on a trip,
Speaker 1: he actually killed my dog. So I planned on going
Speaker 1: on this trip. He found out caught wind from my
Speaker 1: mother and he had planned the scenario because he was
Speaker 1: super furious. So I get back from a trip and
Speaker 1: he injected me as ketamine.
Speaker 7: This is the other story.
Speaker 1: Because he was a veterinarian, he had access to ketemine,
Speaker 1: dormitory and zyolazine, So all three of those drugs were
Speaker 1: used on me like a lot throughout my childhood. At
Speaker 1: that point, I was actually hooked on a ketamine that
Speaker 1: you could drop on the pulse points of your skin
Speaker 1: that he had given me to calm down because I
Speaker 1: was having what they call bleedover symptoms when you put
Speaker 1: somebody through so much trauma. Then the programming that they
Speaker 1: institute to be able to shift into emotional states.
Speaker 7: So this is what I mean.
Speaker 1: If you're a kid basically who's been in these groups,
Speaker 1: they need you to be able to function so that
Speaker 1: nobody notices. So what they do is they create a
Speaker 1: split program so that if they teach you to snap
Speaker 1: your fingers and the minute you do that, you feel good.
Speaker 7: You don't feel anything.
Speaker 1: So anytime you start feeling emotional anxiety or something like
Speaker 1: that and you snap your fingers, you can actually train
Speaker 1: a child to in one. On one hand, they're crying
Speaker 1: the next minute to do that.
Speaker 7: They're like, what's going on? It's that simple.
Speaker 1: So they train you with this split programming so that
Speaker 1: they can make sure that you can function at school
Speaker 1: and so that you're doing this with the group, and
Speaker 1: it's basically you're living a double life. So I specifically
Speaker 1: program children for this. So I've watched them do this
Speaker 1: and it was done on me as well. So bleedover
Speaker 1: symptoms is what happens when this is no longer working,
Speaker 1: when you've got so much subconscious trauma, actually that most
Speaker 1: of the time the person spends in a state of
Speaker 1: serious anxiety. So I was starting to have seizures, which
Speaker 1: they think is it's either trauma seizures or it's caizars
Speaker 1: that are induced by the long term use of kenemine
Speaker 1: things like that. So that's another bleed over sentiment sort
Speaker 1: of like they're no longer able to contain completely the
Speaker 1: trauma that's happening within the system. So the extreme anxiety
Speaker 1: I was going through, he would give me droplets of
Speaker 1: ketemine to put on my skin instead, and I was
Speaker 1: carrying that around with me. So I think that that
Speaker 1: was the reason. If I'm going to go and put
Speaker 1: a theory in. I think that's the reason that he
Speaker 1: gave me the wrong dose, which is the first time
Speaker 1: he's ever messed up like that in my life. So
Speaker 1: he was planning an the elaborate programming scenario where he
Speaker 1: was supposed to inject me with a full dose of ketamine,
Speaker 1: which would put me unconscious and then I would wake
Speaker 1: up having no memory. It didn't work that way. I
Speaker 1: think it's because of the fact that he had given
Speaker 1: me that dropper to continually take kenymine tolerance was higher,
Speaker 1: so he missed. He gave me a miss dose and
Speaker 1: I didn't lose consciousness. And when he put me in
Speaker 1: the back of this van that I was in, I
Speaker 1: was conscious the entire time I was there. I was groggy.
Speaker 1: I couldn't move my body, which is pretty typical. It's
Speaker 1: one reason they love using that. The cult groups love
Speaker 1: ketamine because ketamine you can still feel everything until you
Speaker 1: go completely conscious. You can still feel everything, but you
Speaker 1: can't move.
Speaker 7: So I couldn't move my body.
Speaker 1: But I was awake watching at twilight, watching all of
Speaker 1: the you know, like the trees when you drive, you've
Speaker 1: got like that sort of sunshine dappled sunlight that's coming through.
Speaker 1: So then he brought me to this group of really
Speaker 1: tall pine trees and walked me off of the road.
Speaker 1: Probably ten twenty minutes could have been into the woods
Speaker 1: and there was a body there. Now, one of the
Speaker 1: members of the Satanic group is this guy who owns
Speaker 1: a mortician place, so he's you think he's a morticianer.
Speaker 1: So it's a good way for people who are trying
Speaker 1: to really traumatize children to procure instruments of torment, essentially
Speaker 1: by using these bodies. So we were brought into morticians'
Speaker 1: offices as well as him doing what he did this day,
Speaker 1: which was to procure that body and bring it into
Speaker 1: the woods. So at nineteen years old, I walk into
Speaker 1: the woods. Here's this body that he has put there.
Speaker 1: Now he comes up behind me, which was quite typical
Speaker 1: for him, and smacked me in the back of the
Speaker 1: head and threw me to the ground and said, look
Speaker 1: what you do when I am not watching you every second.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of trouble you put us all in.
Speaker 1: He was trying to convince me that I had killed
Speaker 1: this person, and I was supposed to then be like.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you're like helping me with this,
Speaker 1: and I know the cops are because that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The cops are after you now, so you have to
Speaker 1: stay with me. So I'm like feeling mentally messed up
Speaker 1: because I've been around enough dead bodies in my childhood
Speaker 1: to know exactly what was going on there, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't out of it because he didn't notice me high enough.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting next to this body which was missing
Speaker 1: its entire bottom jaw because it was a suicide victim.
Speaker 7: That's like pretty typical.
Speaker 1: If they angled the gun wrong when they put it
Speaker 1: in their mouth, they blow their jaw off instead of
Speaker 1: their head. So I'm and this man's probably thirty something.
Speaker 1: Not only that he smelled like formaldehyde, not only that
Speaker 1: he had a full bruise along the bottom side of
Speaker 1: his body, and not only that you touch his skin
Speaker 1: and it doesn't bounce back. That tells me, having been
Speaker 1: around bodies for that long as a child, that this
Speaker 1: is an older body. So I'm like, why is he
Speaker 1: telling me that I did something I didn't do. I
Speaker 1: remember everything I've done today, I know exactly like he
Speaker 1: smells like formaldehyde. Like he's been in a mortician's office.
Speaker 1: He's trying to convince me that I did something I
Speaker 1: didn't do. I have no context for this. So basically
Speaker 1: that day he had me like carving ritual symbols into
Speaker 1: the body. And because the body was in rigam, his
Speaker 1: penis was completely erect. So he also had me perform
Speaker 1: like sex with this body, which is one of the
Speaker 1: worst memories, of course, of my life, because my face
Speaker 1: was three inches away from this huge wound in the
Speaker 1: bottom half of this guy's face. And so I'm having
Speaker 1: sex with this course.
Speaker 8: And ow hell now, hal to the fuck now, Oh god,
Speaker 8: I'm gagging.
Speaker 4: I'm gagging. I'm gagging. That sounds like did you guys
Speaker 4: ever watch The Haunting in Connecticut where that guy he
Speaker 4: had the mortician or whatever, he had the funeral home
Speaker 4: and he was carving symbols and doing all kind of
Speaker 4: occult rituals and shit with them bodies and stuff. If
Speaker 4: they would have included a scene like that, I think
Speaker 4: they would have fucking thrown the movie out. But this
Speaker 4: really really reminds me of that movie. You guys should
Speaker 4: watch it, But hale to the now. You know what,
Speaker 4: his dead corpse ass fucking nasty penis probably smelled like
Speaker 4: and his dead carved up beehole and she had a
Speaker 4: climb one. Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. But that is
Speaker 4: going to conclude part one of the Teal Swan story.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop my share real quid. Okay, folks, So
Speaker 4: that is gonna do us for part one of the
Speaker 4: Teal Swan story. You could probably go to YouTube, type
Speaker 4: this bitch's name in and watch the rest of this
Speaker 4: interview all on your own, but then you would be
Speaker 4: lacking the very entertaining side commentary and conversation with yours truly,
Speaker 4: and we're besties. I don't know why you'd want to
Speaker 4: watch it without me. We'd be doing stuff together. We're
Speaker 4: family over her. But yeah, so that's gonna do for
Speaker 4: part one. I got some shout outs and some stuff
Speaker 4: I'm going to mention for part two. I was gonna
Speaker 4: put them in this, but I forgot my bee. I
Speaker 4: will include the shout outs on the part two, but
Speaker 4: until then, I love you, thank you for watching, and
Speaker 4: I will catch you out the next one. Girl, figure,
Speaker 4: you were the trigger.
Speaker 5: You brought me to an obstructive you when you know
Speaker 5: the picture speaker who went my kiden, who from knocking in?
Speaker 5: You doin everything, you do it every time you want
Speaker 5: my enemy, you want no friend of mine. Motherfucker, you're
Speaker 5: motherfucking right, You're all fucking right on.
Speaker 2: You're mother fucking right on trigger. You're all fucking right up.
Speaker 2: I wanna fuck you right up.
Speaker 5: I just the lights now, and you know when the
Speaker 5: sun go down, when it would all go down?
Speaker 2: Been a minute, it's been a while yet.
Speaker 4: Nobody it is it.
Speaker 5: You're with it, you know you. It's not what do
Speaker 5: with it? But I know mean you without you with it,
Speaker 5: I'm out to burn this beach down. You gonna need
Speaker 5: to lie down because I'm not trying a.
Speaker 7: While down now.
Speaker 5: But right now I don't know what okay for Paul
Speaker 5: might fuck around and go crazy because my fucking around.
Speaker 2: Have to pay me and blood.
Speaker 4: This ain't the way that you want. Might catch your
Speaker 4: case in this bitch. Don't let me catch your face
Speaker 4: to face in this bitch. Try in. My heart is
Speaker 4: not do this respect after what you did, man.
Speaker 5: What you've expected.
Speaker 2: Your motherfucking your mouthfucking right, your motherfucking right on, bitter,
Speaker 2: your motherfucking right on trigger, Your.
Speaker 5: Motherfucking right up, shout a lot of time.
Speaker 4: Shout a lot of time.
Speaker 5: Go by, shut out the time.
Speaker 2: He'll oh at the time, go oh the memories.
Speaker 5: Oh you mentally, oh no, history, Oh that's history. Out
Speaker 5: come down, eventually, fall back, eventially, please call me back. Eventually,
Speaker 5: fall back again to me here