Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Constance.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about Benjamin Nittanya who speech to Congress
Speaker 2: to protest outside. In the way in which the three
Speaker 2: major networks covered those protests. I will do this in
Speaker 2: the next few weeks just to check. But ABC and
Speaker 2: CBS did a very feir balanced report. If you were
Speaker 2: watching NBC News with Lester Holt, you never saw any
Speaker 2: of the flag, the American flag being burned, You never
Speaker 2: saw the American flag being pulled down. You never saw
Speaker 2: the intensity of the protests those protesters. It looked to
Speaker 2: me like it was January sixth all over again. Those
Speaker 2: Capitol police officers were literally doing hand to hand combat
Speaker 2: with these protesters. They actually, I think almost had a
Speaker 2: tougher time with some of these protesters because they had
Speaker 2: to resort to Pepper Spry. Let me go next, and
Speaker 2: we're talking about the report by Andrea Mitchell on NBC
Speaker 2: which which basically called again using the adjectives calling NETNA
Speaker 2: controversial and defiant, and that Israel walked away from peace talks.
Speaker 2: Israel walked away from peace talks because they don't trust
Speaker 2: to mass That's why they walked away. Uh, and it's
Speaker 2: simply the peace talks ended. I mean, it would have
Speaker 2: been like Hitler giving us peace talks as as Berlin
Speaker 2: was falling. Uh, and the and the US said we
Speaker 2: don't want to talk to Hitler if we're going to
Speaker 2: take them out. Well, the US walked away from peace
Speaker 2: talks with Hitler. Huh. If you reported like that, Andrea,
Speaker 2: let's go to Martin, Southborough. Martin, you're next on nights.
Speaker 2: I first up this hour, Go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan, I was so happy that you talked about
Speaker 3: this tonight. I was just shamed at our two centers
Speaker 3: for not at least being in the audience and listening.
Speaker 3: I know that to the far left, but they should
Speaker 3: have been there. And we're gonna reelect one of them.
Speaker 3: I'm not, of course, but the state's gonna probably re
Speaker 3: elect Elizabeth Warren. And you know she doesn't go to
Speaker 3: something as important as that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't make that assumption because I think that elections
Speaker 2: are important. And let's see what happens with the Republican candidates.
Speaker 2: There are three of them running for the US Senate nomination,
Speaker 2: and let's see how how they do. Look, Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 2: did very badly here in Massachusetts in the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: presidential primary.
Speaker 3: Remember that.
Speaker 2: I think she finished third or fourth, And I don't
Speaker 2: think that vote was to say, oh, we love Elizabeth
Speaker 2: Warren so much, we want to keep her here in
Speaker 2: the Senate.
Speaker 3: We don't want How many House members did not attend,
Speaker 3: I don't know the.
Speaker 2: Time to get that. I think that Anna Pressley did
Speaker 2: not attend. I believe Jim McGovern did not attend, which
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3: There are two of the more.
Speaker 2: Radical members I would be I would assume that Steve
Speaker 2: Lynch attended, but I don't know that for sure. I
Speaker 2: believe that they said that Jake Arkham Cross attend. I
Speaker 2: would assume Seth Molten attended. Again, these are our assumptions
Speaker 2: I'm making, but I can't I can't be sure. I
Speaker 2: would be surprised that Bill Keating did not attend, but
Speaker 2: again I'm I'm shooting. I would hope that the Globe
Speaker 2: in or the Herald, because they have a staff of
Speaker 2: dozens of people, they can call their offices pretty easily.
Speaker 2: We have a staff of one aka Marito aka Lightning.
Speaker 2: So we're we're doing best best we can. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: The thing that bothers me the most is that Hama
Speaker 3: started this thing October seventh, yep, and you know what
Speaker 3: he is gonna has to feel safe yep. And they
Speaker 3: can't if they know that there are many many hamoskus
Speaker 3: still running under tunnels and everything in Gaza.
Speaker 2: Well, there are not as many today as I know that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I will try to get that information for you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone it's funny. I mean, Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: the reason we're one party state is that the Globe
Speaker 2: doesn't do its work, doesn't do its job, and the
Speaker 2: Herald tries their best. But obviously the Globe is the
Speaker 2: dominant newspaper, and I mean that should be front page news.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's easy to say the both Marky
Speaker 2: and Warren didn't go, and fine, but what about the
Speaker 2: members of the congressional delegation. Well, I'll see if I
Speaker 2: can find out during the during my next break. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, how often do you call this program? Martin?
Speaker 2: I haven't heard your voice in a while, or maybe.
Speaker 3: Not all I've been on in a while. But you know,
Speaker 3: I I finally retired from my job, so you might
Speaker 3: hear me more often.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope, I do because it's important to have
Speaker 2: different voices. Okay, whatever your point of view is, okay, yep,
Speaker 2: Mark appreciate it very much. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Welcome, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Have a great night, Rob. Have you checked out my
Speaker 2: next caller? Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
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Speaker 2: Feel free to join the conversation. Let me go to
Speaker 2: a Mike and Beverly. Mike, you are next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: Hey Grenadian Ada and Mike and Beverly Hawaiia doing great?
Speaker 2: What's on your mind tonight? Mike?
Speaker 5: The whole Israel thing, I support Bend one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I don't understand the whole Democratic Party mostly did not
Speaker 5: attend the uh the Israel showing up the other day,
Speaker 5: and the whole flag burning thing, and then you know,
Speaker 5: twenty four hours later we get a statement from the
Speaker 5: from Kamala Harris, like you know, and there's no I
Speaker 5: don't know. I think the whole situation is terrible. I know,
Speaker 5: speak of Mike Johnson and a bunch of Republicans went
Speaker 5: afterwards and put a new flag up on the fight phone.
Speaker 5: After the after that event that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh, I knew that the whole system. And then we're
Speaker 5: trying to tell another country how to dictate their war,
Speaker 5: and we're trying to tell them how a two party
Speaker 5: two parties stayed and like, I don't understand it all. Uh,
Speaker 5: some money came in and killed thousands of people and
Speaker 5: was trying to dictate how they did with killers that
Speaker 5: don't give it give a crap, well human life. I
Speaker 5: don't understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But by the way, Mike, I just want to
Speaker 2: update the information. We had the eight senators who did
Speaker 2: not attend yesterday, both senators from Amon, Pat Leahy, and
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. I want to make sure that this is
Speaker 2: the Lay. He's no longer a senator, so this may
Speaker 2: be a dated story here. This is a I'm sure
Speaker 2: this is this is this is no no, this this
Speaker 2: is a dated story. My mistake on that. I'm trying
Speaker 2: desperately as I talked to you to find this information.
Speaker 2: Uh and uh and I just you know, want to
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta As soon as I saw Pat
Speaker 2: Lay's name, I knew that's an incorrect group. So we'll
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 5: Box had a list that's a lot of them that
Speaker 5: didn't show up. I know that Ladiana, one of those
Speaker 5: states that had the Palestinians, showed up. But she had
Speaker 5: a sign that Jenna prime Minister's of genocide. Like yeah,
Speaker 5: that was that was.
Speaker 2: The UH to leave. The congresswoman from.
Speaker 4: Michigan, yeah her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's got a sign that says war criminal.
Speaker 2: I didn't see her, say, have a sign that said UH,
Speaker 2: war war criminals?
Speaker 5: For it was some small sign in a hand.
Speaker 2: But but you didn't have a sign that said hamas
Speaker 2: war criminals?
Speaker 6: Did she?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: I don't that.
Speaker 5: You're trying to deal with something me kill people, and
Speaker 5: then we're trying to tell them how to dictate things,
Speaker 5: and I don't understand it all, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's like crazy, you know. And then Tomala comes up
Speaker 5: with a statement statement twenty four hours later, it's like
Speaker 5: where's your where's your statements about that? And then there's
Speaker 5: nothing about crickets while seeing in all that sort of
Speaker 5: stuff about the flag burning stuff, and then there's a
Speaker 5: guy watched closely as an American guy trying to put it around.
Speaker 5: He's got a broken arm, and then they pound on
Speaker 5: him and into the UH into the people.
Speaker 4: What our routes.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got it. I totally got it. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I do finally have a list of uh
Speaker 2: the members who who who who skipped here? Uh and
Speaker 2: I will go through this list uh and and give
Speaker 2: you uh the information. There were a bunch of uh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't see Markey's name on the list here,
Speaker 2: so I'm.
Speaker 5: Not sure both those from Masters you should be tossed
Speaker 5: out of seat anyway.
Speaker 2: But I don't see and yeah, and uh, I don't
Speaker 2: think that Marky's I don't think Marky skipped according to
Speaker 2: this the I'm just going through the senators and what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do also is find out the members
Speaker 2: of our congressional delegation who skipped.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, at home, John, I hope John Keaton gets in.
Speaker 5: The Republicans from the Western Master here, ip you it's in.
Speaker 5: It takes Warren's job because she's I can't stand her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she hasn't done a great job, There's no doubt it.
Speaker 2: Ale all right, Mike, I gotta let you go because
Speaker 2: about my breakup.
Speaker 5: Aprecition, I appreciate you very much.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm still looking for names here taking names,
Speaker 2: but about half of the Democrats in the Senate and
Speaker 2: half in the Democrats in the House skipped but will
Speaker 2: maybe the global will have done the work they work today.
Speaker 2: But Rob, we're going next to Eric in Attleborough. I
Speaker 2: see that you checked with him. Let's go to Eric
Speaker 2: and Addleborough. Hey, Eric, thanks for hanging in here. You're
Speaker 2: next on Nightside.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Dan Living listening to your show for
Speaker 6: on and off for at least a dozen years that
Speaker 6: I've been in the Boston area. Always enjoy your show.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to just call just to point out
Speaker 6: a couple of things. Number One, you know, by all means,
Speaker 6: I can understand people's discontent when they you know, see,
Speaker 6: our elected officials do not show up for Benjamin Yeah,
Speaker 6: who's speech to Congress. But however these are that's an
Speaker 6: empty gesture in terms of when you compare it to
Speaker 6: the legislation that's been passed and one, for instance, the
Speaker 6: legislation that it was passed by the House and the Senate,
Speaker 6: it was twenty thirteen, which earmarks eleven million dollars a day,
Speaker 6: which amounts to just under four billion annually. That's specifically
Speaker 6: airmarked for Israeli military security and defense spending. And that's
Speaker 6: that's you know, written into American law to fund the
Speaker 6: military operations of a foreign power. Okay, So with that
Speaker 6: being said, that's a big, a heavy, heavy point of
Speaker 6: the contention, and it's not really discussed enough because the
Speaker 6: other part is military conscription in Israel for young men
Speaker 6: women between the ages of eighteen and twenty six two
Speaker 6: years of military conscription, like which means required military service
Speaker 6: if they're fit for service.
Speaker 2: But again, why are we concerned about what Israeli conscription is?
Speaker 2: I don't get. I don't get what our concern is there.
Speaker 2: That's that's just an internal issue in their country, right.
Speaker 6: Well, because not every single person that's been conscripted to
Speaker 6: the military is meant to be a warrior or a soldier.
Speaker 2: Well, they also, I think they do. I think that
Speaker 2: they do have you know, public service. You know, we
Speaker 2: have conscience. When we had a draft we haven't had
Speaker 2: a draft since nineteen seventy two. I believe we had
Speaker 2: conscientious objectors. But what is it of our interest as
Speaker 2: to how Israel If if Israel as a democracy, through
Speaker 2: their Kanesset and their prime ministers, they happen to have
Speaker 2: a draft, they're in a very conscription, as you would
Speaker 2: call it. They're in a very different situation politically than
Speaker 2: we are. We don't have people at our borders, well
Speaker 2: maybe we do, but we don't have people at our
Speaker 2: borders who are coming across the border, kidnapping citizens, attacking
Speaker 2: citizens and taking them away. Hey there's a small little
Speaker 2: piece of piece of land over there. I don't see
Speaker 2: what what is our standing to say to them, stop
Speaker 2: being conscription. I know that they have Orthodox members of
Speaker 2: the Orthodox sect, and that apparently has recently been lifted,
Speaker 2: and I think there's been some demonstrations on that.
Speaker 6: Eric right, Yes, yes, I don't my My My point was,
Speaker 6: I visited Israel when I'm Jewish. Actually, so I visited.
Speaker 6: You know, Judaism is a faith where it's a relationship
Speaker 6: with the Creator and Zionism. It's a political ideology which
Speaker 6: kind of contorts Judaism. And I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 6: But what I wanted to say is I was there
Speaker 6: here two thousand. I was also there the two thousand
Speaker 6: and nine. So what I'm trying to say is that
Speaker 6: when you know, when things get hot like they did
Speaker 6: all October seventh. And another thing to consider too, October seventh,
Speaker 6: nineteen forty eight. I mean, if people want to look
Speaker 6: into that, I mean, you might give people an idea
Speaker 6: as to what motivated for the Palestinian resistance to activate.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're somebody who's Jewish and you do not
Speaker 2: support the Netanyahu government, that's pretty clear to me.
Speaker 6: Okay, No, no, no, I do believe ultimately in the
Speaker 6: right of like just things as they go.
Speaker 2: You know, since you're a student of Israel, how many
Speaker 2: times has Israel been attacked by its Arab neighbors?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean.
Speaker 2: I hear Israel attacked in nineteen forty eight. Well, actually
Speaker 2: the answer to that is yes, was was Israel attack
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight? Of course that is also yes, right,
Speaker 2: But was Israel attack in nineteen seventy three?
Speaker 7: It was?
Speaker 6: But do people understand what the Hagana was and how
Speaker 6: is how the Zionist elements prior to the you know,
Speaker 6: to the carrying out of the ballifour decoration being implemented
Speaker 6: in nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so again America, I really don't want to
Speaker 2: argue because I think you and I see it differently.
Speaker 2: You tell me you're Jewish. Okay, I'll accept.
Speaker 6: That based upon and first like, but I care about
Speaker 6: my country first, you should.
Speaker 2: You should, But I also care about my country in
Speaker 2: the Middle East? Is Does the United States have a
Speaker 2: better friend in the Israel in the Middle East than
Speaker 2: Israel that you can think of?
Speaker 6: I asked people to ponder, what has your greatest ally
Speaker 6: ever done for you?
Speaker 2: Fair Enough, We'll let it go with that. I'm having
Speaker 2: a tough time believing you're actually Jewish, but you've told
Speaker 2: me you are, and I'm going to accept that as
Speaker 2: a fact.
Speaker 4: I am no I believe you say.
Speaker 2: You say it, and I guess there are there are
Speaker 2: people like you who happen to be Jewish who see
Speaker 2: Israel differently. I I disagree with him. We could we
Speaker 2: could spend hours talking about the Balfour Declaration. We could
Speaker 2: talk hours about I thought that, Yeah, we could talk
Speaker 2: hours about it. Okay, you've been to Israel. I've never
Speaker 2: been Israel. I've been Outschwitz. I saw what happened in
Speaker 2: Auschwitz firsthand. You know, I don't think i'll convince you,
Speaker 2: and I don't think you'll convince me. But I appreciate
Speaker 2: you calling and giving attempt to give a different point
Speaker 2: of view. You're You're welcome here any night.
Speaker 6: Okay, Thank you, David, and you have a great light.
Speaker 6: God bless you.
Speaker 2: Right back at you. Thank you. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Jeff and Waltham. Jeff, I suspect you of you is
Speaker 2: going to be a little different.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 4: I think that last caller is a in.
Speaker 2: Full no attacking, last no attacking other cars.
Speaker 4: An attack. But I really think that it was off base. Okay,
Speaker 4: Israel is defending itself and everybody has the right of
Speaker 4: self defense, every nation and every individual. But I wanted
Speaker 4: to address myself to your comment on the news coverage
Speaker 4: that you found efficient of the protest outside the capital,
Speaker 4: and I think this was that was a model. It
Speaker 4: was a hallmark of that kind of the textualizing as
Speaker 4: a hallmark of prejudicial reporting. Okay, what's left out? Okay,
Speaker 4: because it it's it's it's distortional, Okay, when you leave
Speaker 4: out the the instigating UH, the the relevant the context
Speaker 4: in which these events occur. And I agree with you
Speaker 4: that that that that I'm not going to mention the network,
Speaker 4: but the one you refer to it.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 4: Unprofessional to leave out the context that But you see,
Speaker 4: UH decontextualizing has been a hallmark of prejudicial UH reporting
Speaker 4: generally in the Mid East and UH and elsewhere, and UH,
Speaker 4: I think this is just an example of it.
Speaker 2: I would agree with I would agree with you, Jeff.
Speaker 2: You know you and I normally see this situation UH
Speaker 2: the same. The problem with the Mitchell piece is she
Speaker 2: told half the story. It's a simple as that she
Speaker 2: told half the story. She she never mentioned the American
Speaker 2: flag being pulled down by these Palestinian Hamas supporters. She
Speaker 2: never showed the story of the American flag then being burned.
Speaker 2: She never showed the story of the Palestinian flag being raised.
Speaker 2: She never showed the story of you know, federal memorials
Speaker 2: being defaced. UH, and that was part of the story.
Speaker 2: I mean, if these people they had to protest that Yahoo,
Speaker 2: they're very right to do that. But when they start
Speaker 2: burning an American flag, and I know that technically, you know,
Speaker 2: people are going to say, hey, Dan, you're a lawyer.
Speaker 2: People can protest with the American flag, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hold it against you every time. And if you're a
Speaker 2: reporter and you don't so called reporter Andrea Mitchell, and
Speaker 2: you don't have the integrity to show both sides of
Speaker 2: the story and to show that she had to make
Speaker 2: a specific judgment to leave that out of her peace
Speaker 2: because she felt that ethical.
Speaker 4: It's unethical because when you leave things out, you are
Speaker 4: putting forth prejudicial reporting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's biased by definition. I mean, just showed
Speaker 2: her bias. It's very clear to me at this point.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm sure what she says in the news it's acceptable.
Speaker 4: You know, it's almost like saying that, well, you know
Speaker 4: the American Revolution, you're talking about the given account of
Speaker 4: the American Revolution. Who are these rustic farmers are creating
Speaker 4: such a commotion in the colonies without mentioning the British
Speaker 4: abuses controversial decades before. I mean, it's it's the same principle.
Speaker 4: So any kind of professional reporting cancer includes the right
Speaker 4: and the relevant context.
Speaker 2: You've got it. Thanks, Jeff, appreciate your callers always. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Dan, thirty.
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Speaker 2: with John in Dorchester right after the quick break at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. State right there, John got Bob,
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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the best I can do for you
Speaker 2: on the doing a little research here myself. Both Senators
Speaker 2: Warren and Marky skipped the net who speech yesterday to Congress,
Speaker 2: as did Jim McGovern from Worcester, Ayanna Presley from Boston.
Speaker 2: Steve Lynch from the South Shore, kind of a surprise
Speaker 2: to me, skipped, as did Lori Trehan, a Merrimack Valley
Speaker 2: member of Congress. Those who did attend Jake Auchencloss of Newton,
Speaker 2: Katherine Clark, who is the whip I believe at this
Speaker 2: point in the third in line, in the second line
Speaker 2: in the Democratic House, Bill Cleating and Bill Keating of
Speaker 2: the Cape, and Seth Moulton of who we had on
Speaker 2: the program earlier this week on Sunday Night. They all
Speaker 2: attended Ark and Cross, Clark, Keating and Moulton, and if
Speaker 2: I had been in Congress, I would have attended as well.
Speaker 2: All right, I think we're going next, Rob. If I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken in John in Dorchester, have you cleared John
Speaker 2: in Dorchester for me for the quality of the call.
Speaker 2: Let's go to you really, okay, I'm looking at twenty
Speaker 2: nine minutes here. That's okay, John in Dorchester, Go ahead, John.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 8: And to get to the woman that didn't do a
Speaker 8: whole report, I mean I'm not a report, correct, Thank you?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 7: Where?
Speaker 6: One?
Speaker 7: Why? And me is the other one?
Speaker 6: I don't know? Why not?
Speaker 7: Is you're gonna tell a story, tell the whole story.
Speaker 7: Nothing about the story. The big part of the big.
Speaker 2: Part of the story, clearly a big part of the story,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, was the fact that these demonstrators were
Speaker 2: there more to protest, to protest Danielle. But they wanted
Speaker 2: to pick down an American flag and burn the And
Speaker 2: they did burn the American flag. Uh, and there should
Speaker 2: be burnt with this, yeah. And then they raised the
Speaker 2: Palestinian flag. I mean you do that in my country.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that that that is what that
Speaker 2: me and I want my audience to know about it.
Speaker 6: What's the other flag?
Speaker 8: Say, don't tread on me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know it is what it is.
Speaker 4: It's a shame.
Speaker 8: But uh yeah, I mean a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 8: You know Hamas.
Speaker 7: You know it was people being killed. And like you
Speaker 7: said that, I think anything on the head at the
Speaker 7: beginning with the trust.
Speaker 8: I mean, the base of any good relationship is built
Speaker 8: on trust and honesty is to be you know, it's
Speaker 8: like a foundation.
Speaker 7: You know, once you stray from that, I mean that's
Speaker 7: it's sound as a white wives and this and half.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know sometimes another you your goal, you're
Speaker 7: I mean, you get along, you get gone.
Speaker 8: But you just like you said, I mean it's all
Speaker 8: about you know, you know your allies and you know
Speaker 8: people being killed, decapitate people.
Speaker 2: Well that's it. I mean, Israel has never engaged in that.
Speaker 2: Israel's gone into Hamas. They have tried as best they
Speaker 2: can to avoid so called collateral damage, but Hamas has
Speaker 2: has had tunnels and their barracks underneath hospitals and schools.
Speaker 2: They have used children, innocent Palestinian children as shields. That's
Speaker 2: absolutely men and women as shields. You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: give me a break. I mean, I'm tired of of
Speaker 2: the These are the same people who tried to disrupt
Speaker 2: college campuses around the country and who will probably try
Speaker 2: to disrupt the disrupt things this fall. And the Democrats
Speaker 2: better be smart. And I think the Vice President Yesterdy
Speaker 2: was smart when she basically said, I condemned the burning
Speaker 2: of the American flag. That flag is a symbol of
Speaker 2: our highest ideals as the nation and represents the promise
Speaker 2: of America. It should never be desecrated in that way.
Speaker 2: It should never be desecrated, period, but especially in that way.
Speaker 7: So well said, and I hope we've had one don
Speaker 7: a kid my soy golf?
Speaker 4: Well, good, bless all right.
Speaker 2: Next up is Bob in California, Bob you and next
Speaker 2: on Nightsiger, right.
Speaker 10: Ahead, Yes, Dan, good evening. I just want to pop
Speaker 10: from California. Obviously, throw a couple of points out there.
Speaker 10: And I don't really have an explanation how these sacks
Speaker 10: will relate to Andrew Mitchell's I hear with you irresponsible reporting,
Speaker 10: but the irony is Andrew Mitchell is Jewish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what her religion is.
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 6: Google it.
Speaker 10: It's very clear she's Shureish. She's Mary Callen Greenspan. She
Speaker 10: is Jewish. Brian roberts who runs Comcast NBC, right, their
Speaker 10: family is Jewish. To his credit, Obviously he's letting the network.
Speaker 10: You know, their hands off with the network, Brian Robertson
Speaker 10: who owns it, like they're letting NBC obviously have I
Speaker 10: don't want to say objective reporting, because you're right she
Speaker 10: I think she should be fired, okay, but clearly maybe
Speaker 10: she doesn't like net yaou Yeah, well, I think.
Speaker 2: That came that came through She's using the words controversial, defiant,
Speaker 2: and how that according to her. You know, Israel uh
Speaker 2: walked away from the peace talks. Well, if you're negotiating
Speaker 2: with with terrorists and at some point you think that
Speaker 2: they're just you know, jerking you along, you are going
Speaker 2: to walk away. You have no you have no responsibility
Speaker 2: other than to other than to walk away. The other thing, too,
Speaker 2: is that I looked at both the ABC Evening News
Speaker 2: in its entirety last night during the day today. You
Speaker 2: can go back and look at it, and I did
Speaker 2: my homework, and I looked at CBS, and both ABC
Speaker 2: and CBS did far superior reports. They included the flag burning,
Speaker 2: They included the fact that the Palestinian flag was raised
Speaker 2: after the American flag was lowered. They got the whole
Speaker 2: context of the story. It showed these protesters who they are,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And my understanding is that, well, I watched
Speaker 2: all three and I just was interesting how Middle America
Speaker 2: was going to see these reports. Well, if I'm in
Speaker 2: Middle America, if I'm living in the middle of Kansas,
Speaker 2: and I rely upon Lester Holton NBC News, I didn't
Speaker 2: get the whole story last night, right, because I probably,
Speaker 2: as an American, would have been really offended by the
Speaker 2: fact that my flag was being burned by these protesters.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, And again she's entitled her opinions about
Speaker 10: net and Yahoo. But you're right, there should be objective reporting.
Speaker 10: I think to chase there and where I've called obviously before,
Speaker 10: the enemy here is Iran. And I hope if Trump
Speaker 10: gets back in, he can cut a deal with Putin, Okay,
Speaker 10: and say, let me let us take out Iran. We
Speaker 10: have to take Iran out for this, you know terror.
Speaker 2: Well, well, Trump Trump had choked off their their financial
Speaker 2: supply by preventing them from selling oil and holding back funds.
Speaker 2: The you know, President Biden, Biden Harris have gave them Iran,
Speaker 2: as did President Obama billions of dollars. Now, maybe their
Speaker 2: attitude is if we're good to them, we can rule
Speaker 2: them over to the side. We're not going to pull
Speaker 2: over this theocracy for the side which has been our
Speaker 2: fierce enemy for forty years. I have a greater sense
Speaker 2: that we could work a deal with Kim Jong Moon
Speaker 2: in North Korea, who I think is somewhat rational. These
Speaker 2: theocrats in Iran, they look at this as if if
Speaker 2: the world blows up, they're all going all akbar, They're
Speaker 2: going to heaven.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's why again we have to take them out.
Speaker 10: I mean, we need to stop, excuse the term, pussy
Speaker 10: footing around. Okay, and when Trump gets in, I think
Speaker 10: the next step is take Iran out.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you don't have to necessarily take them
Speaker 2: out militarily. I just think you have to be prepared to.
Speaker 2: But I think you take them out economically, is what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. And at that point, hopefully people
Speaker 2: in around who want freedom. You know, people in Iron
Speaker 2: who who might be gay and don't want to be
Speaker 2: hung by the neck until dead. And women who want
Speaker 2: to be able to live a relatively normal life as
Speaker 2: opposed to what they're being you know what's being imposed
Speaker 2: upon them now, Bob, I got to keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: I got pack lines, which I love, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you run for now.
Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob, appreciate very much. Next Doreen in Chelsea, Dorian,
Speaker 2: you're next on Nieaca right ahead, Hi.
Speaker 11: Dan on my hot break so much when I see.
Speaker 10: My flag being burned, yep, I don't.
Speaker 2: Like it at all.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 12: The whole thing is they better, They better get down
Speaker 12: to real tactics when it comes to foreign policy. Now
Speaker 12: it is so terrible. It's a disgrace.
Speaker 4: That's all I have to say.
Speaker 2: Well said Doreen direct and to the point, I love
Speaker 2: your calls. I feel your your anger and your frustration,
Speaker 2: and I share it with you. Thank you, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. I'll give you much more time next time.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks dry, good night, good night.
Speaker 2: All right. Let me see here we're coming up. Let
Speaker 2: me get I get one more in here. One more
Speaker 2: in quickly. Let me go back to California. Lola in
Speaker 2: San Diego, Lola next on nightside.
Speaker 9: Hi Dan, I'm in Watertown right now.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, So.
Speaker 9: I don't know how that flag was able to get
Speaker 9: burned and taken down and the other one wasted up.
Speaker 9: Who was watching these protests?
Speaker 2: Well, I think what happened was there were a lot
Speaker 2: of protesters and we had Capitol police out there doing
Speaker 2: their best.
Speaker 11: It looked very reminiscent of the Capital Capitol Police.
Speaker 4: Where was with.
Speaker 9: Where's our government with the where's the FBI and the
Speaker 9: CIA when it's being done like that?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you need the Capitol I don't
Speaker 2: think you need the FBI and the CIA. I think
Speaker 2: what you need is national Guard there. They should have anticipated.
Speaker 9: Them whatever, Yeah, Washing Washington police.
Speaker 2: I think that the Capitol police had all they could
Speaker 2: do to hold the line and they could not probably
Speaker 2: have gotten through the crowd to defend that flagpole. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, that's the video that I saw.
Speaker 9: Well I don't I don't like it. They should have
Speaker 9: been there ahead of time. They should have been there
Speaker 9: ahead of time. They should have known something was going on.
Speaker 9: They monitor all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of I know that I think they knew there was
Speaker 2: a demonstration coming.
Speaker 9: But again I don't think no, no, no excuse, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, I'm with you know, and all.
Speaker 9: These Democrats they're not showing up when there's an event
Speaker 9: going on. Shame on them. They should be fired.
Speaker 2: That's up to the voters in November.
Speaker 9: Well, the voting you know here here, we're going down
Speaker 9: that road again. Vote all, vote all you want, vote away,
Speaker 9: and it never gets changed. Now yeah, well let.
Speaker 2: Me say wait, wait. Jamal Bowman, who was a member
Speaker 2: of the Squad, just lost his Democratic primary in New
Speaker 2: York to a moderate Democrat. He was the guy that
Speaker 2: pulled the fire alarm in the Capitol and escaped being
Speaker 2: penalized for that. So there's a possibility that some that
Speaker 2: some of the you know, members of Congress in the
Speaker 2: Squad would would be turned away. This was a moderate
Speaker 2: Democrat who beat Jamal Bowman. He was actually older, he's
Speaker 2: like sixty eight. Bowman I think is only fifty. So
Speaker 2: he was able to knock him off in a Democratic
Speaker 2: primary in New York.
Speaker 9: You know, you.
Speaker 2: Got to continue to believe in the system, because.
Speaker 9: That's all we have right now, right well, you know
Speaker 9: when they took the Pledge of Legiance out of schools,
Speaker 9: that was the beginning of the end of life as
Speaker 9: we know.
Speaker 2: With you, it's a matter I don't disagree with that
Speaker 2: life as we knew it back then. I'm with you
Speaker 2: on that, Lola. I got to run. I got you
Speaker 2: in before the break, so I got to scoop now.
Speaker 9: But talk to you soon, Okay, got to you soon,
Speaker 9: Dan take here, Thank you, good night.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, four, ten thirty, triple eight nine
Speaker 2: two nine, ten thirty. Got a couple of lines available
Speaker 2: if you like. I got David in Baltimore, Laurie and Idaho,
Speaker 2: and I have room for you. I'd love to hear
Speaker 2: from you. We kept trying to get everyone in. I
Speaker 2: promise six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, nine three one ten thirty For and
Speaker 2: Andrea Mitchell Fanning. You wanted to defend the fairness and
Speaker 2: the comprehensive nature of her reports. Love to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the window World,
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We've got three calls, going to try to get them
Speaker 2: all in, starting with David in Baltimore. David, you were
Speaker 2: next on Nightside. Welcome. Yeah, Dan, I'm here, David. I'm
Speaker 2: listening ahead.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 13: I wanted to say, you know, they're old saying that
Speaker 13: you know that the devil is in the details. The
Speaker 13: gentleman that called who said he was Jewish, you know,
Speaker 13: he's a kind of Jewish person that you know. I
Speaker 13: think all of us should be willing to fight a
Speaker 13: wrong side when because he's very interested in the truth.
Speaker 13: But of course, the strategy of the Middle East is
Speaker 13: when when there's a fight in the family, you know,
Speaker 13: the Arabs and people are both called femis. I don't
Speaker 13: know half of half of what and half of what
Speaker 13: back then it's like a fight in the family. I
Speaker 13: wish there was peace now for the people who miss
Speaker 13: my opinion, the people who miss to listen to to
Speaker 13: No Congress when Benjamitnation I was talking. That's very wrong
Speaker 13: and very bad because how do you get to advise
Speaker 13: somebody or or criticize somebody and lets you hear what
Speaker 13: they have to say. Okay, I feel bad for the
Speaker 13: him now because he is a he's a young man
Speaker 13: who lost a little miseral for a little too long.
Speaker 13: But he's a side young man who lost his brother.
Speaker 13: His brother was the only person who was lost, you
Speaker 13: know in Temy.
Speaker 2: Talking about Benjamin and who's brother David yep.
Speaker 13: Okay, so you know, and for him to be in
Speaker 13: power this song who knows where? You know, he can
Speaker 13: be like a little baby brother who's throwing a rett
Speaker 13: type of tantrum. But it is sad that in fact,
Speaker 13: you know that you know, there's there's there's a problem
Speaker 13: there now the.
Speaker 2: People who well, I assume he's been in power because
Speaker 2: he's been elected in in a democracy by the Israeli people. Correct.
Speaker 13: Uh, you know it's very often you can you can
Speaker 13: you can go and say let's make pression pressure great again,
Speaker 13: and everyone would write side side for the side with you,
Speaker 13: even though you okay, because I don't understand.
Speaker 2: That David whatsoever. I really don't. So give me your
Speaker 2: point here because I got two other calls behind you.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the Andrea Mitchell's report and NBC uh
Speaker 2: not acknowledging that the American flag was taken down, a
Speaker 2: Palestinian was taken Palestinian flag taken up, and the American
Speaker 2: flag was burned.
Speaker 13: That is that is very bad because first of all,
Speaker 13: if you want to submotize things Palastinian is to in
Speaker 13: America is to low at the American flag, burn it
Speaker 13: and raise the POLICI fag that's a client. Okay, you
Speaker 13: shouldn't do that. And if I'm wanted to submitize things Palistinian,
Speaker 13: that's what I would do. So I don't know who.
Speaker 13: I don't know who did who did that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's very it's very counter productive. These are these
Speaker 2: are radicals who who do not are not as sophisticated,
Speaker 2: probably as as you are. And I mean that as
Speaker 2: a compliment. It's very counterproductive for what they did. David,
Speaker 2: you haven't called in a while, but I gotta let
Speaker 2: you run because I got two behind you and I'm
Speaker 2: going to get him in.
Speaker 13: Okay, if you cover both both.
Speaker 2: Things, Thank you much appreciate it. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Laurie and Idaho. Laurie, welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 11: I'm doing pretty well?
Speaker 2: You well, I'm good, except I am tied on time.
Speaker 2: That's the one commodity I'm losing right now. But I
Speaker 2: love to know what you think.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 11: I actually we had the privilege actually to watch or
Speaker 11: to listen to Manuel Who's speech live and I was
Speaker 11: rapid the whole thing.
Speaker 4: What an orator? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 11: So I can't imagine being a member of anybody that
Speaker 11: would sit out on that, whatever my beliefs were. But
Speaker 11: and yes, my favorite line was the yeah the idiots.
Speaker 4: Yes, useful idiots, useful idiots.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh that that's a phrase that goes back a few years.
Speaker 2: But that is true. That is very very true. And
Speaker 2: we played a lot of his sound bites in the
Speaker 2: in the ten o'clock hour from ten to ten thirty.
Speaker 2: That's how good I thought the speech was. If you
Speaker 2: didn't hear those, did you.
Speaker 5: Picked my four favorites?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Good? Okay, great, okay, well there are a lot of favorites.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you there were a lot of favorites, Laurio.
Speaker 11: It was a fantastic speech.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 11: I thought it was great. He's very fervent.
Speaker 9: She is who he is.
Speaker 2: But wow, what yeah, well, you know he's very merchanized
Speaker 2: and yeah, and he's a he's a leader. You know
Speaker 2: where he stands, and you know when he says something,
Speaker 2: he means that. Did you, uh, what did you think
Speaker 2: of did you happen to see the Andrea Mitchell report
Speaker 2: on NBC, which ignored the fact that now I no.
Speaker 11: Never to me, never news to me has gone kind
Speaker 11: of soft right now. And if I had seen it,
Speaker 11: I would have been appalled. And it's not reporting, it's
Speaker 11: not news. It's an opinion piece.
Speaker 2: And she's exactly, it's an op ed piece disguised as
Speaker 2: a news piece. You're so correct, Yeah, so correct. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's disgraceful because there's millions of people
Speaker 2: whatever whatever they get, five million, six million people. They're
Speaker 2: looking at it. They're doing well, the poor Palestinians. But
Speaker 2: they don't realize those protesters were doing the same thing
Speaker 2: as the so called rioters or insurrectionists. They were fighting
Speaker 2: the capitol police. The capitol police are trying to keep
Speaker 2: them off out of the buildings.
Speaker 6: That's what happened.
Speaker 2: It was a tougher fight than then January sixth.
Speaker 11: In my opinion, and I no, I agree, And I
Speaker 11: don't know why they just why do you decide to
Speaker 11: do that kind of bias? Does the network think they're
Speaker 11: going to get an audience that maybe the other networks
Speaker 11: aren't getting. I don't understand why you know that.
Speaker 2: Audience starting an MSNBC audience. I think that the very
Speaker 2: service to their viewers, and I hope that people who
Speaker 2: listen and who listen to NBC realize that maybe it
Speaker 2: should be now called MSNBC. Laurie, I got a screwed.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, we're going to do another poll on the
Speaker 2: new constituted presidential race eleven o'clock.
Speaker 6: Please, I want to have your vote. Okay, thanks tonight.
Speaker 11: Thanks for taking my car, Thanks very much.
Speaker 2: How much time I got left here? Rob? What do
Speaker 2: I got mint and a half? Okay, I lean, I
Speaker 2: got you in. I can give you au Oh my
Speaker 2: lost her? I guess did we lose her? Okay, that's fine. Okay.
Speaker 2: We tried to sneak in, I lean in, but it
Speaker 2: didn't quite work, so that's okay. Wish we could have
Speaker 2: given her thirty seconds. Okay. Done for the night. I
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