Speaker 1: Steve Ribera and Jacin Salis. They have their eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on two Sons Sports Stage shaft, Fox Sports
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eying the Ball here on Fox
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Speaker 2: Henry with breaking news.
Speaker 3: It's now working.
Speaker 4: Red Sox outfielder Jaron Duran has been suspended two games
Speaker 4: for saying an anti gay slur to a fan during
Speaker 4: yesterday's game.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard what it was, but obviously something yeah,
Speaker 3: very bad. Yeah, he apologized and stuff. But you can't
Speaker 3: say that stuff. Dude.
Speaker 2: It's best you just not say anything and just say,
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I make millions more than you. Shut up.
Speaker 3: Well again, I hear thinks. You know, there was a
Speaker 3: there was a video of a fan at the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: game screaming at Rice Harp and I'm like, who are
Speaker 3: you right? Well, that's called twitter, Yeah, I mean no, right,
Speaker 3: And the guy standing up and screaming and Bryce Harper
Speaker 3: turns around and just kind of gives it, throws his
Speaker 3: hands up kind of like you got nothing right, right?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm here, You're there, you got nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just what.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. What the what these.
Speaker 2: People think they're funny or something? They do it for attention.
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do I know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mookie Betts, who is returning off the aisle today,
Speaker 4: is deciding to stay in Milwaukee. It is declining to
Speaker 4: stay in Alwaukee hotel with the team due to stories
Speaker 4: of being haunted, and is instead staying in an airbnb.
Speaker 3: I guess he's done this before. So there's this hotel.
Speaker 3: The hotel they stayed is building like eighteen ninety three,
Speaker 3: and just around Milwaukee, people say it's haunted. It's been right,
Speaker 3: and so you know, he said he's never seen anything
Speaker 3: weird there, but he can't sleep because every noise he
Speaker 3: hears he thinks there might.
Speaker 2: Be something it. It's in your head.
Speaker 3: It's in your head, right exactly.
Speaker 2: Have you ever stayed in a place like that? No?
Speaker 2: You never? Have you been to the Gadst?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, man, you got to go and stay at the
Speaker 2: Gadst and down in uh it's a little spooky that
Speaker 2: down in Douglas. Douglas. Yeah, No, I never stayed there.
Speaker 2: Take a trip, spend a day, see nice knowing you.
Speaker 3: Never really that's it's a spooky, spooky.
Speaker 2: So we're just hotel I've ever been in. Oh you
Speaker 2: you stayed in the uh and this is we stayed
Speaker 2: in uh Douglas at the motel. That was not that
Speaker 2: was not scary, but it was just right spooky.
Speaker 3: Thing about that was it was next door to the
Speaker 3: EU I President. Yeah, that was spooky, you know, coming
Speaker 3: and looking in the back seat of your car to
Speaker 3: make sure there wasn't somebody in there. That's spooky. That's
Speaker 3: that's a different kind of spooky though than like thinking
Speaker 3: there's ghosts and stuff that calls coming from it. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: now that was that wasn't creepy. That was just scary.
Speaker 2: Google the games here, we got a call hold on,
Speaker 2: we got to call.
Speaker 3: You're on the air and the ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, I didn't expect you to pick up the ring.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: I wanted to make a mention here mentioned about uh,
Speaker 6: you know, people rooting against Washington or yeah, they just
Speaker 6: give it up and stuff and I don't live and die,
Speaker 6: but what Jeff Fish does or anything like that, you know,
Speaker 6: but there are teams that you wrote against.
Speaker 8: Yes, so now there's they're a team that we root against.
Speaker 8: But my bigger point is that. You know, I don't
Speaker 8: get to listen to you guys a lot because I
Speaker 8: don't get off work early enough sometimes, but I did today.
Speaker 8: But I do turn in when I can. And but man,
Speaker 8: it seems like you guys, especially you see that you
Speaker 8: you rip on Bucsan fans or blumpus all together in
Speaker 8: one big pile, and and said, well, that's that's Tucson
Speaker 8: or that'suson Arizona.
Speaker 6: Fans for it.
Speaker 2: Who's who? Your name Bill? Bill? So there's Bill on
Speaker 2: the right side. Everybody else is on that.
Speaker 8: No, no, I never said that, never said that. But
Speaker 8: but you you don't everybody together.
Speaker 9: Arizona that's Arizona fan for you. I would say, that's
Speaker 9: not and that's you know, it's just I just thank
Speaker 9: god that we have podcasts now.
Speaker 8: We have we don't have to rely on newspapers or
Speaker 8: one radio station to uh listen to sports. And it's
Speaker 8: just it's it's just irritating when when you get lunked
Speaker 8: in and your stereotype a whole group of people into
Speaker 8: one group.
Speaker 2: Bill Miakopa, I'm not going to change my mind. Thanks
Speaker 2: for listening.
Speaker 3: We do appreciate ch You don't have to you don't
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 5: You just have to.
Speaker 8: You can just not be informed and not be you know, uh,
Speaker 8: you can just be stereotypical. I'm sure you do that
Speaker 8: your whole life.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, exactly appreciated Bill. Thanks for calling. I
Speaker 3: love I love Arizona fans together all the time.
Speaker 2: Is this my my theory wrong?
Speaker 3: No, We're a lot of like, yeah, we did that,
Speaker 3: we get we get better about guys like Jetfish. You'd
Speaker 3: say that they found a better place to go about that,
Speaker 3: but Arizona fans are like, this is what.
Speaker 2: I've done for what I've done for living, and you've
Speaker 2: done it from all time. I write stories, right, I've
Speaker 2: done it for thirty seven years. I think I think
Speaker 2: I could be wrong about this, but I have thirty
Speaker 2: seven years of writing about it and talking to people
Speaker 2: about it. I think I'm not a heart surgeon, so
Speaker 2: I don't do that. I do this so I think
Speaker 2: I know the people that I write about. Does it
Speaker 2: make sense?
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal, And I think Bill took this
Speaker 3: a little more seriously than he should. Right here. Here's
Speaker 3: the deal is that when we say stuff like that,
Speaker 3: we're making generalizations because we say Arizona fans are rooting
Speaker 3: against Jetfish. We don't mean every single Arizona fan is
Speaker 3: against dead Fish. But I bet if you went if
Speaker 3: you got ten Arizona fans in a room, I'll say this.
Speaker 3: You got ten Arizona fans in a room and you
Speaker 3: asked every Arizona every one of those fans, are you
Speaker 3: rooting against dead Fish this year? Seven or eight?
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: I agree that in that context, I think we can
Speaker 3: say that in general, Arizona fans are going to root
Speaker 3: against Jeed Fish. Now Sean Miller is a different story, right,
Speaker 3: Sean got fired. He had a nice little run here.
Speaker 3: People don't hate him. Maybe they didn't like what happened
Speaker 3: at the end. And now that turned out. I don't
Speaker 3: hear fans saying I'm rooting against Sean Miller, and in fact,
Speaker 3: I hear fans rootal for I hope it turns out
Speaker 3: well for it. So we're not bitter about everything. But
Speaker 3: I'll bet you that nine out of ten fans we're
Speaker 3: rooting against Larry Smith.
Speaker 2: When you went to USC that said, do you think
Speaker 2: an issue I hate for you?
Speaker 3: Ten out of ten?
Speaker 2: Okay, nine out of ten. I was just say nine
Speaker 2: and a half out of ten.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's gonna be one who says, well, my daughter
Speaker 3: went there, Sody, you're gonna have to get to like
Speaker 3: fifty to be able to break, you know, a half, right,
Speaker 3: because at fifty there's like forty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: I get what Bill saying that, and he's he's okay
Speaker 2: to say that's me. I'm fine because generally that's how
Speaker 2: I am with fans, but I know the fans.
Speaker 3: We generalize about the fans all the.
Speaker 2: Time, especially in this situation, and.
Speaker 3: Like I'll sit here and I'll say, Arizona football fans
Speaker 3: are used to bad things happening, right, and we are
Speaker 3: a lot of us are. Now there are some who
Speaker 3: haven't had all those bad things happen because thirty years old,
Speaker 3: so they don't have that. So, you know, it's an
Speaker 3: interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, and all you have to do, Bill just go
Speaker 2: to uh to read cheer or read some people on
Speaker 2: social media and they're they're not kind to the guy
Speaker 2: who and not just one.
Speaker 3: Of them, all of them, all of them pretty much all.
Speaker 2: Nine out of ten probably, So that's kind of like
Speaker 2: how but Bill, you're you're entitled talk whole.
Speaker 3: We do help you we're happier listening. And if you
Speaker 3: don't like Steve, get a line of sometimes I don't
Speaker 3: like Steve, get a lot of you're.
Speaker 2: At the back of the line. But if you don't
Speaker 2: listen to our podcast, yeah, maybe he was the guy
Speaker 2: that created the Facebook page could be all right?
Speaker 4: Arizona Soccer kicks off their season on Thursday.
Speaker 10: Forward.
Speaker 4: Nicole Dallen has been named to the Big twelve preseason
Speaker 4: All Conference. Did they kick off one Thursday at I think?
Speaker 3: Oh okay?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Calling man? How was how was back on Mars?
Speaker 2: Fantastic? You know, how could you not be right? She's
Speaker 2: very bright, pretty straightforward. Good. We'll see how good they
Speaker 2: do or well they do? They people from all over
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: Well again by all accounts. You know, the coaching change
Speaker 3: was a big change. You know, she does things way
Speaker 3: different from what uh Tony did, so you know sometimes
Speaker 3: those things take time to take root.
Speaker 2: You know, sure, well, this is your could you for
Speaker 2: year four?
Speaker 3: Fourth year?
Speaker 2: Year four? We spoke to her the first first weekend
Speaker 2: that she was here. She hadn't even moved yet, well unpacked,
Speaker 2: but four years? I mean, how long does it take?
Speaker 2: And and then she said, you know, what the surprising
Speaker 2: thing to me is moving from the Pac twelve to
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. It's it's the same as football, same
Speaker 2: as basketball. It's less finesse and more physical. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that doesn't change interesting, you know because now you have
Speaker 2: to be more physically.
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, no, yeah, I mean it's a this is
Speaker 3: gonna be a big change for for everybody to you know,
Speaker 3: to just move because they're different types of schools. They're
Speaker 3: not U c.
Speaker 7: L A.
Speaker 3: They're not you know, USC and Stanford, who are just
Speaker 3: kind of pretty much in every sport, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of a kind of ness, uh, you know, fess sports.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Yeah, this is her fourth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, she was great. Okay here all right.
Speaker 4: Ju Rika Handy of the Los Angeles Sparks has officially
Speaker 4: fired a filed a federal lawsuit against Las Vegas Aces
Speaker 4: and the w n b A detailing the repeated acts
Speaker 4: of intimidation discrimination in last January, as the Aces traded
Speaker 4: her when she became pregnant.
Speaker 2: Right, I remember that. I remember that. That's it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of old news, but it's new news for that
Speaker 2: right in Vegas doing it things differently. Every player gets
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars paid by the city. So they're
Speaker 2: they're winning for a reason and the one they're good,
Speaker 2: and then they have incentives on top of that, right,
Speaker 2: and then the coach is pretty tough. I mean she's
Speaker 2: a good coach, a heck of a good coaches. Interesting, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, anything else you have? No, you know, just uh,
Speaker 2: you're not going to stay in a hotel.
Speaker 3: Oh well, this just came up. The US gymnastical heel
Speaker 3: of Jordan childs uh uh losing her bronze medal. Bronze
Speaker 3: medal was denied not because the US couldn't prove that
Speaker 3: they got their appeal in on time, but because the
Speaker 3: rules don't allow an appeal of an appeal that's been
Speaker 3: ruled on. So because the decision was made to take
Speaker 3: the bronze away on an appeal, that ruling stands. No
Speaker 3: matter what, you can't you can't appeal. You can't keep appealing.
Speaker 3: That it. That's it. Even if even if the proof
Speaker 3: that the US provided shows that they got their appeal
Speaker 3: in on time, and even though in the appeal it
Speaker 3: was ruled that they didn't, even if they can prove
Speaker 3: that they did that's it, it's done. Yeah, the US
Speaker 3: says they are. This is not over with. They said
Speaker 3: they're not gonna let this rest. They're going to keep
Speaker 3: trying to figure out a way to to uh see
Speaker 3: if they can get this thing turned.
Speaker 2: If you're the USA gymnasts who finished third but didn't
Speaker 2: get third place in your mind, in your mind, did
Speaker 2: you finish third.
Speaker 3: If you even should at the medal. But she knows
Speaker 3: she didn't finish third.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, if you're the USA child, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she thinks she finishes third.
Speaker 2: Okay, you finished third. Now you have to give the
Speaker 2: thing away. You want the medal, You want the medal,
Speaker 2: of course, but you finished third. I mean it's like
Speaker 2: it's like the U A or Washington or whomever gets
Speaker 2: their games taken away from them. Right, the USC usc
Speaker 2: doing as as well as they did with with the
Speaker 2: resibutional Right, did you just see the games? Yes, they want,
Speaker 2: they want, they want.
Speaker 3: Yes, she'll say that, she'll say, but un fortunately she
Speaker 3: wants the medal. She wants the medal hanging in her
Speaker 3: in her in her home or whatever that is. But
Speaker 3: here here's the here's a pair of it says, despite
Speaker 3: USA Gymnastics. This is from Sports Illustrated. Despite USA Gymnastics
Speaker 3: alleging to have video evidence proving Landy that's whoever appealed
Speaker 3: is submitted the challenge forty seven seconds after the ruling,
Speaker 3: well within the allotted one minute. The CIS, which is
Speaker 3: the that's the ruling organization, the Court of Arbitration. The
Speaker 3: CIS indicated it cannot overrule the decision made by the
Speaker 3: arbitrary panel. So this got appealed to an arbitrary panel.
Speaker 3: Who stripped them, who stripped the metal, And once that
Speaker 3: decision is made, it's over, no matter what you can show.
Speaker 3: So even though they can prove it, they can't change
Speaker 3: the decisions what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Right, that's even more power to That sucks, but that's
Speaker 2: more power to hear the saying we kind of know
Speaker 2: that you did you did the job and you finished third,
Speaker 2: but we can't change it. That just sucks. Yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: do you see that. Saron Rodgers kind of was felt
Speaker 2: bad that he had used the word he was immunized
Speaker 2: or not that he was immunized, because it's in a
Speaker 2: new book coming out by a friend of mine, you O'Connor,
Speaker 2: and he regrets saying that he was immunized. If there's
Speaker 2: one thing I wish I could have a gun would
Speaker 2: have gone different, it's that because that's the only thing
Speaker 2: the critics could hit me with. Remember when two three
Speaker 2: years ago he said he was immunized, took a lot
Speaker 2: of heat and then he wasn't. Yeah, yeah, well he's
Speaker 2: a here's the Aaron Rodgers, talented guy. What kind of
Speaker 2: kind of yeah, kind of different to read.
Speaker 3: And I'm not he got whack. He wasn't always that whack.
Speaker 2: I'm not bitter about it.
Speaker 3: I know what happened to him?
Speaker 2: Did you miss that?
Speaker 3: Yes, I heard. I'm just going right past he got
Speaker 3: he got weird. Well, he's the smartest student the room.
Speaker 3: Something happened to him. He eat that stuff that he.
Speaker 2: Was well though, Yeah, yeah whatever, Yeah, that's what happened. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's kind of always be smarter.
Speaker 3: Than all Right, we're gonna take our break, We're gonna
Speaker 3: come back. We're gonna bring in Jack Magruder right for
Speaker 3: Forbes Sports Money. Uh. He did did a piece last
Speaker 3: week about the hot airs on the Diamondbacks, and he's
Speaker 3: got another piece out on the Western Division race, which
Speaker 3: is tightened up with the Dodgers. The Diamondbacks and the Padres.
Speaker 3: Dodgers started series tonight against the first place Brewers. Well,
Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks are playing the lowly Colorado Rocky, so there
Speaker 3: could be a big change in the standings. You're coming up,
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera and Jake and Saliz they have their eye
Speaker 1: on the ball on Tucsons sports, Stax yet Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty streaming live I mean IHID Radio wapp.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I am the ball here, Fox
Speaker 2: wats fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's jaking sauce. Now
Speaker 2: we have Jack Marguder from Forbes Sports. Jack, how are
Speaker 2: you good?
Speaker 6: Are you?
Speaker 2: We doing fine? I just want to let you know
Speaker 2: that we're all ze zero and zero.
Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll be better.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we will.
Speaker 3: So we wanted to get you on because I know
Speaker 3: you've been You've been focusing on the on the Diamondbacks,
Speaker 3: who suck. All right, there's one. You did a piece
Speaker 3: in Forbes last week about the streak that they're on
Speaker 3: now up to fifteen out of eighteen, including winning three
Speaker 3: straight from the Phillies over the weekend. I mean, what
Speaker 3: the hell are they doing?
Speaker 5: Well? They're getting very healthy for one thing. As part
Speaker 5: of it. Meryl Kelly won yesterday and Wana Rodriguez one
Speaker 5: Wednesday in Cleveland. He didn't finch against Philadelphia, and I
Speaker 5: think that's a big plus. K Martes having a pretty
Speaker 5: close st MVPC. But I know the Dodger fans Jay
Speaker 5: are thinking Altany's gotta locked up and he and he might.
Speaker 5: Martey's having a heck of a year. And then they
Speaker 5: just played the right way. It's fun to watch them play.
Speaker 5: They played good defense, they moved runner, They often protect believes,
Speaker 5: although that's been a little bit of an issue. They
Speaker 5: just know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Is Carol doing better. Last time I saw him, he
Speaker 2: was building like a book ninety or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's doing better. He's not the like I think
Speaker 5: twenty five. And the big issue where the big question
Speaker 5: was what happened to his sway? And he said he
Speaker 5: changed his swing a little bit in the off season
Speaker 5: and needs to get it better, flattening it out a
Speaker 5: little bit. But you know, it's it's sort of a
Speaker 5: mystery the way baseball goes. Right. You're great one year,
Speaker 5: great the next year. But he's work and he's running.
Speaker 5: He does a lot of the little things still, and
Speaker 5: I think his average is coming back to He's got
Speaker 5: a little more. He's show a little more power lately.
Speaker 5: So in that regard to three them for optimism.
Speaker 3: And this has all been without Christian Walker, right, who
Speaker 3: was just a big stud last year, because I know
Speaker 3: he was on my fantasy team last year and he
Speaker 3: had gotten off a pretty good start. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: and he's been.
Speaker 5: Gone well since the trade deadline. That oblique issue, which
Speaker 5: is really trouble because he's a two great two way player,
Speaker 5: gold Gloves candidate, power hitter. But you know, I think
Speaker 5: another reason that the d Backs are kind of picking
Speaker 5: it up these days is Mike Haven is a just
Speaker 5: a terrific job at the deadline of identifying needs getting
Speaker 5: players to fill those needs. And Josh Bell's one of
Speaker 5: those guys. You know, Walker gets hurt, you can't replace it.
Speaker 5: He's too good to replace, right, But Josh Bell is
Speaker 5: an established major league player, and it seems like he's
Speaker 5: a little bit revitalized coming to a contended team now.
Speaker 5: He's so that kind of thing. Haven has full the
Speaker 5: right strings the last couple of years. That I think
Speaker 5: that's another example of when they get close, they'll make
Speaker 5: the most to try to get better.
Speaker 2: So what the Diamondbacks are doing now was it kind
Speaker 2: of like they did last year. Came on late and
Speaker 2: showed kind of who they were.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're certain a little you know, they started very
Speaker 5: well last year, remember, and then they hit a slump.
Speaker 5: Actually about this time last year, they slumped and they
Speaker 5: were even under five hundred if memory service before getting
Speaker 5: back to it in September. This is this is the
Speaker 5: best they played. I think since the postseason, they've won
Speaker 5: twelve out of fifteen or twenty five and ten I
Speaker 5: believe since early July, and they I think they've got
Speaker 5: that the building on that confidence that they gained in
Speaker 5: the post season and they're starting to get healthy. It's
Speaker 5: a good mix.
Speaker 3: How much of a key is Toy Levolo because I
Speaker 3: mean he almost got fired a couple of times and
Speaker 3: even last year that you know, there was when they
Speaker 3: went into that slump after the All Star break, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of buzz and then they turned around
Speaker 3: then the National League champions. What kind of a guy
Speaker 3: is he and how does why does he fit this organization?
Speaker 5: You know, he's a He's a perfect fits for the organization.
Speaker 5: I think I could take issue with almost getting fired.
Speaker 5: I know there was a lot of heat in the
Speaker 5: Twitter sphere and in the.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying, yeah, show right, But he
Speaker 3: was never.
Speaker 5: He was never going to get fired, right. Mike Hazel
Speaker 5: was smart enough to admit that he made some mistakes.
Speaker 5: Every years ago, he gave Toy a team that really
Speaker 5: was not competitive. And the guy that he is, the
Speaker 5: man that he is, he didn't plave Toy he played himself.
Speaker 5: But getting back to Tori, I mean he's a great
Speaker 5: fit as a with the player. He relates to them well,
Speaker 5: he tells them specifically what their job is going to be,
Speaker 5: what their role is going to be, and he doesn't
Speaker 5: debate from that, and that really creates a sense of
Speaker 5: he's doing what's best for me. I'm going to fight
Speaker 5: for him, you know, I'm going to make this thing work.
Speaker 5: And he's you know, he's a guy that didn't have
Speaker 5: a great measure league career. Obviously, he's picked around the
Speaker 5: majors then was a the famous college player. I severed
Speaker 5: him in college. He was a remarkable college player. But
Speaker 5: he knows also what it's like to be the twenty
Speaker 5: sixth man. He doesn't. He doesn't relate to everybody on
Speaker 5: the team, and that I think that goes a long way.
Speaker 2: So I've asked this question a number of times to
Speaker 2: a number of coaches recently, in fact, So how important
Speaker 2: or what's the percentage of importance to a manager like
Speaker 2: Lavello or anybody in in pro baseball? You know, we
Speaker 2: have basketball, college basketball, and the talent to coaching ratio
Speaker 2: in terms of importance, what's that in this team, or
Speaker 2: maybe in baseball itself.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're right, the supporting staff is very valuable.
Speaker 5: The manager makes the call, no question, but he's got
Speaker 5: an able staff behind him. You know the guy from
Speaker 5: my candidates slipping my name now, the Banks coach is
Speaker 5: a former manager of Houston who won with Texas rather
Speaker 5: than won the American League. Jeff Banish, one of the
Speaker 5: American League with Texas. His pitching coach is a tremendous
Speaker 5: veteran coach. These guys. He gives them the ranks, the
Speaker 5: ray instance, get his groups, get their groups going. But
Speaker 5: he has a final call. And it's valuable to have
Speaker 5: those that are guys, no question about it. They benefit
Speaker 5: from that too.
Speaker 2: I'm talking more. Okay, so you have talent, they say
Speaker 2: wins the day, right, But what if you have talent
Speaker 2: and coach it's not very good. But you have a
Speaker 2: coach that's good and the talent is okay, you know
Speaker 2: so so, but he makes those guys play better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think talent does take the deat. I mean,
Speaker 5: there are certain tweets you can make, right, and a
Speaker 5: savvy especially a saving pitching coacher, staff can tweak a
Speaker 5: certain guy's delivery and add a pitch or subtract a
Speaker 5: pitch and do a little better. But I think it's
Speaker 5: still talent that when the when's the win's the dead.
Speaker 2: Well, Dodgers are talented, right, the Yankees are talented. Where
Speaker 2: do the Diamondbacks rank in terms of talent?
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know if they're certainly in that group.
Speaker 5: They play with a lot of togetherness, which helps a lot.
Speaker 5: You know, the Yankees are probably more talented at the top,
Speaker 5: although the back of their line there isn't all that strong.
Speaker 5: The Dodgers have had so many injury it's a shame.
Speaker 5: You know, Mookie's one of the five best players of baseball,
Speaker 5: and without him you can survive a little bit for
Speaker 5: a little wady, you can't compensate for the loss of him.
Speaker 5: You can't compensate for the Lasa Yamamoto, who's a key
Speaker 5: to their starting rotation. So injuries have hurt them a lot.
Speaker 5: They've got a lot of talent, I mean, there's no
Speaker 5: question about it. Freddy Freeman great player. The Diamondbacks aren't
Speaker 5: quite there, but they you know, they make up there.
Speaker 5: Jock Peterson may not be Freddy Freeman, but Jock Peterson's
Speaker 5: having a nice year, and he can contribute and do
Speaker 5: his and that's just as good.
Speaker 16: Almost.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned that, you know, the injuries to the Dodgers,
Speaker 3: and some of those guys are coming back. Movie comes
Speaker 3: back tonight. I think Yo motives on the edge of
Speaker 3: coming back. He was throwing the other day. Maximunths he
Speaker 3: comes back next week. But and the Dodgers just hung on. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a three and a half games spread. You were
Speaker 3: You talked about that in a in a piece you
Speaker 3: did today about the division. These guys, all these teams
Speaker 3: spent a bunch of money and now they're in a
Speaker 3: hell of a race. It's three and a half games separate,
Speaker 3: you know, the three teams. How is this race gonna
Speaker 3: stay like this to the end, even with you know,
Speaker 3: both all the teams getting their guys back as we
Speaker 3: get on in the season. Look, I'm I'm I'm one
Speaker 3: of those guys that does don't think that a one
Speaker 3: dimensional hitter like show, Hey, who's only a d h
Speaker 3: should be the m v P. I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: think that. I don't care if you hit sixty homers.
Speaker 3: I think you got to play, you know, do more
Speaker 3: than that. Now he's over the top when he's pitching.
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I'm not voting for him for
Speaker 3: for m v P, although I'm glad the Dodgers haven't.
Speaker 3: But anyways, getting back to the race, what do you
Speaker 3: think about this race? You know down the stretch where
Speaker 3: it's you know, we're almost ad mid August. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is this is this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 5: It is gonna be very fun, n I think. Can
Speaker 5: I think all the teams involved are talent enough to
Speaker 5: stay there. Well, we know baseball, we know peaks and valleys,
Speaker 5: ups and downs. The Dodgers are on a down. Arizona,
Speaker 5: San Diego, even San Francisco they're on or not. So
Speaker 5: you tend to think it's gonna the Dodgers still up
Speaker 5: by three and a half, you tend to think it's
Speaker 5: going to balance out. It's going to even out. The
Speaker 5: Dodgers will start playing better, the other teams will hit
Speaker 5: a little bit of a lull as often happened. Now
Speaker 5: it doesn't have to happen, but looking back at history,
Speaker 5: you would think that would be the case. But you know,
Speaker 5: you look at these teams. The San Diego has Michael
Speaker 5: King and Dylan Tis at the head, of the rotation.
Speaker 5: I think Joe Musco's back tonight. That's a strong free
Speaker 5: The Giants has Loaded Webb, Robby Ray, Blake Snell at
Speaker 5: the top of their rotation, right. I think all these
Speaker 5: teams have the pitching that can lift them even through
Speaker 5: a poor offensive spurt. I would expect to raise to
Speaker 5: say a little better. I think Dodgers had a better
Speaker 5: schedule the last fifty games or so last sixty games,
Speaker 5: because they don't. They're done with San Francisco and the
Speaker 5: rest of the division. They've got two series against Colorado
Speaker 5: and one against San Diego and one against uh, what
Speaker 5: else is in the race? They don't have different The
Speaker 5: Diamondbacks difficult to schedule and with the with them health,
Speaker 5: you know, you got to like them. They've got great players.
Speaker 5: Dave takes a lot of great day Roberts, but he
Speaker 5: does a nice job of keeping that team to get it.
Speaker 5: I think he's a valuable Talking about managers, I think
Speaker 5: he does a great chat too.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Jack McGruder from Ford Sports Money. Jack,
Speaker 3: you know, looking at this and just right now, these
Speaker 3: next three days, you've got the Diamondbacks have Colorado while
Speaker 3: the Dodgers are playing the first place Brewers. I mean,
Speaker 3: this lead could change in the next three days, three
Speaker 3: four days. I mean, it's scary. If you're a Dodger,
Speaker 3: it is, it is for sure.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, maybe the Diamondbacks, maybe the
Speaker 5: Rockies take two out of three and things change. It's
Speaker 5: it's hard to predict this game. It's just hard to predict.
Speaker 3: Well, you're the scorekeeper for the Rockies. How bad are they?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: There who said we are? What the record said? Somebody
Speaker 5: said that, some coach, and that's about what they are.
Speaker 5: They've got some good young talent. This guy's Letton Doyle
Speaker 5: that not too many people have heard of, the center
Speaker 5: fielder on the Golden Globe last year. He's already twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: He's already twenty homers, twenty stole the basin their shortstop.
Speaker 5: That's very good, as Vikiltba the third base and Ryan
Speaker 5: McMahon could win a Gold Glove and he's that good.
Speaker 5: You watch him play every day and he makes all
Speaker 5: the plays. They just are hurting, you know, they're hurting
Speaker 5: like they always kind of are. On the pitching side
Speaker 5: of things, They've had some starters hurt their both pen
Speaker 5: of struggles and it's just such a test to pitch
Speaker 5: up here. And I don't know if the beats guys down,
Speaker 5: but it's just hard to do.
Speaker 2: It's just hard for and this year specifically, what everyone's
Speaker 2: going through injuries, I mean everybody. Atlanta just lost a
Speaker 2: good picture too. What's going on with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, that's a that's a good question.
Speaker 5: The pictures, I think it's the pitch block. The pitchers
Speaker 5: think that they're being forced to pitch too quickly, and
Speaker 5: then they're all going for velocity now you know, they're
Speaker 5: all trying to get ninety six nine, seven, ninety eight,
Speaker 5: and those two combinations of trying to throw hard and
Speaker 5: trying to throw a little quicker, they think is an issue.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if everybody believes that. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: if the industry believes that or not. But Pictures sure
Speaker 5: think that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard it.
Speaker 2: I've heard it.
Speaker 5: It's just crazy injuries, Akuda, all these Michael Harris Junior.
Speaker 5: The Grays work just up here last week and they're
Speaker 5: devastated by injuries right now.
Speaker 3: All right, So who wins the West? You still think
Speaker 3: the Dodgers win it?
Speaker 5: Daughters?
Speaker 3: You think so?
Speaker 5: All right, But I think, you know, I wrote today,
Speaker 5: you could have this will happen, but you could have
Speaker 5: the Dodgers or or Arizona anybody. Dodgers women the division
Speaker 5: down the back from Podres and as two of the
Speaker 5: three wild cards, and the Giants are only game and
Speaker 5: a half out of the third wildcards. That would be
Speaker 5: wild to get the same division in the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 5: I probably won't happen, but it's hard when they go
Speaker 5: there playing each other. You know, somebody's got to lose.
Speaker 5: But that would be a lot of fun. But I
Speaker 5: you know, you got to go with the talents, and
Speaker 5: I think it probably in LA right now. Although you Jay,
Speaker 5: you know that you gotta worry about their starting pitching,
Speaker 5: Alam big.
Speaker 3: Time worried about the Dodgers starting pitching. Modor's got to
Speaker 3: come back strong. I don't know where the hell Walker
Speaker 3: Buehler is, right, Kershaw's not doesn't seem right, So I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 5: He's not the same guy. Yeah, he tried, he compete,
Speaker 5: but he's just not the main guy.
Speaker 2: So are you still in Colorado?
Speaker 5: I am, yeah, sitting in the back porch here doing
Speaker 5: the fantasy football research.
Speaker 2: What a life? Jack I'm not bitter, I'm not better work.
Speaker 5: That's a.
Speaker 2: Nice nice So where can we find his such?
Speaker 3: What's the what's the website for your for your stuff?
Speaker 5: It's uh Forbes worts money, sports money is all one
Speaker 5: word or sports money. I think you just go to
Speaker 5: the basic Forbes website and uh, you know your name
Speaker 5: or got Google. They just search for Diamondbacks or Dodgers.
Speaker 5: There me and you'll find you'll find.
Speaker 2: That's Jack mcgooder.
Speaker 3: Great, all right, Jack, stay cool up there and then
Speaker 3: bring your butt back to Hoddle Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Man. Jay's going with the Dodgers for fifty bucks to
Speaker 2: win the web.
Speaker 5: Don't get don't get me on that. I can't wait
Speaker 5: to get back there. Guys. I love it down there,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, thanks a bunch fun fun the bull, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta go the bull. All right, we gotta go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break. Five two zero four one
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Speaker 1: Extremely live, Honey, iHeartRadio WAFT. This is I On the
Speaker 1: Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: sporteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to On the Ball here a Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty of Steve. You're Jane at Henry That
Speaker 2: sixteen minutes, Uh, Jack Selly's fun to have. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: been good show today with the with the little league coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of baseball and softball and softball.
Speaker 3: But that you know, the Bay, the baseball races are
Speaker 3: heating up, but they're gonna be good. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a little disappointed that that the that the
Speaker 3: National League West is heated up because the Dodgers have
Speaker 3: been comfortably ahead, you know, all season long. But you've
Speaker 3: got a good You've got you know, that's a good race.
Speaker 3: You've got a good race in the in the Central
Speaker 3: where the Guardians and the Twins and the Royals are
Speaker 3: duking it out. And then the Astros and Mariners tied
Speaker 3: for first in the Al West. So it's a couple
Speaker 3: of good races. Someone get you know, gotten away from
Speaker 3: from up them. But and then you got your oars
Speaker 3: and the Yankees duking it out. So a lot of
Speaker 3: good stuff. It should be fun down the stretch. And
Speaker 3: then with the you know, added wild card spots, it
Speaker 3: should be good a lot of a lot to play
Speaker 3: for during the last stages of the month.
Speaker 2: So I haven't only been paying attention to moch of
Speaker 2: but except for the West because of all the good
Speaker 2: baseball that's been played.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So see what do you want looking
Speaker 3: for for football season?
Speaker 2: Guess question, I don't know. I haven't been out to practice.
Speaker 2: What what am I I don't know. I think that
Speaker 2: I'm going to see I think, you know what, they're
Speaker 2: gonna win. So that'll bring out the fans, uh, there'll
Speaker 2: be very supportive of of of new coach, which of
Speaker 2: course the Tucson should should be because uh again, no
Speaker 2: disrespect to to I'm I'm I'm a fan of Fish.
Speaker 2: I mean because he's done well, he thought this, he
Speaker 2: did what we asked him to do. Yeah, so, Bill,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where you're getting that.
Speaker 3: He did what he was asked to do. Sure, and
Speaker 3: and yes, and fans, well, here here's the thing, Steve,
Speaker 3: fans are pissed at him because he did well and
Speaker 3: then left.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, why are we good enough?
Speaker 3: Exactly? So that's why, you know, but he came and
Speaker 3: he did what he was asked to do, and he
Speaker 3: did it way faster than you could have expected him
Speaker 3: to do it, no question. So now what has to
Speaker 3: happen is that you know, we always say the fans
Speaker 3: come out when you win. Okay, well they won, especially here,
Speaker 3: they won. They want they won ten games last year.
Speaker 3: So I don't care if it's New Mexico or you
Speaker 3: know what some other What time is that game? It's
Speaker 3: a it's a seven thirty or some other you know,
Speaker 3: crappy team, get your butt out there because that's what
Speaker 3: you've been waiting for. Well it's too hot, Well, it's
Speaker 3: the summer, it's Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 2: And you're pooing on it, right, And then I don't
Speaker 2: want and I hate that. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: sound like you're being negative. No, but you're being.
Speaker 3: Truthful, but truthful into what our fans do.
Speaker 2: And you've been doing this for how long?
Speaker 3: Okay it was it was two years ago, right when
Speaker 3: when Arizona started winning a few games and people were
Speaker 3: bitching about the games. They're all, they're too late, and
Speaker 3: then they got them a day game and then and
Speaker 3: they didn't come out because they said it was too hot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what our fans.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And you're being you're being negative or
Speaker 2: you're being critical or whatever the word.
Speaker 3: I'm being truthful.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And that's what I that's and that's what you
Speaker 2: know right right? You go to the game, you see it, right,
Speaker 2: I go to the games and I write about it
Speaker 2: and how that's Maybe it's two fans that don't feel
Speaker 2: that way the ones that show up, right, but there
Speaker 2: are a lot like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. New Mexico is a seven thirty game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's gonna be hot, perfect, it's gonna be hot,
Speaker 2: but it'll get you.
Speaker 3: You don't want it at noon or what August for sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all remember that San Diego State game.
Speaker 3: Brutal two years ago.
Speaker 2: Brutal.
Speaker 3: Where were you? I was in the sun, I was
Speaker 3: in the end zone. Did you go underneath the overhand?
Speaker 3: I stayed for the whole thing was.
Speaker 2: It was brutal.
Speaker 3: We took we parked downtown or near downtown and took
Speaker 3: the train trolley in so going home, going back after
Speaker 3: the game, everybody we're at that. We're on the on
Speaker 3: the platform for for the for the train. A lady
Speaker 3: passed down. They an ambulance came for her, you know,
Speaker 3: she just passed out.
Speaker 2: Well, I remember people going onto the under the auning
Speaker 2: on both sides.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: That was the weekend.
Speaker 3: My car got wind, oh got broken into yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, we went up and the we went up
Speaker 3: in the shade half. They ran out of water at
Speaker 3: the snack bars all that stuff. But you know, we
Speaker 3: got it out and we stayed to the to the
Speaker 3: end and and it was you know, it was it
Speaker 3: was really the start of something good, you know when
Speaker 3: they won that game. And I remember thinking, man, you know,
Speaker 3: we didn't expect this. I mean I remember I had taken.
Speaker 3: I bet well it was two and a half, was
Speaker 3: the over under for that year, two and a half
Speaker 3: for that year. And I put a hundred bucks on it,
Speaker 3: and I got and we hit that. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: got this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tried to tell my wife the good news, said,
Speaker 3: you know, gap, I put one hundred bucks on the
Speaker 3: air Zona go over two and a half.
Speaker 2: Why did you bet that much money? We've all we're
Speaker 2: gonna win.
Speaker 3: We've already got a win.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's screw.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. I just got my mush out.
Speaker 2: That was exactly. But it's called marriage.
Speaker 3: I know it is.
Speaker 2: I know it is.
Speaker 3: We could have paid the rent with that. We're gonna
Speaker 3: pay more rent with it.
Speaker 2: You put the water out exactly.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, So Arizona they open on the
Speaker 3: thirty first, it's seven thirty game. The NAU game the
Speaker 3: next week is a seven o'clock game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 3: It's just those are gonna be hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets nice at nine o'clock. Maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: let me say this, here's not a generalization. Okay, we
Speaker 2: talk about the fans, and I'm gonna Bill picked on me,
Speaker 2: So I'll just say what I know, halftime, what do
Speaker 2: fans do? They leave?
Speaker 3: Okay, not all fans, not off, but a lot of them.
Speaker 3: But that's the general enough of them that it makes
Speaker 3: a big difference in what the stadium.
Speaker 2: Correct And that's not you, that's not me. The fans leave,
Speaker 2: whether you want to be lumped in that thing or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the fans leave. Not every fan leaves, but a lot
Speaker 2: of fans leave, correct. So what are we gonna say, Oh,
Speaker 2: maybe just a smattering.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's not no, it's and especially those games
Speaker 3: people get people get wiped out, halftime comes, they say,
Speaker 3: they go into the shape, they go in the shade
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they go, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 3: going back out there.
Speaker 2: They call it a night, right, and it's just the
Speaker 2: way it is, what it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: we were talking to mcmaon mcmaamon last week, right, he
Speaker 2: gets he gets criticized or whatever. He says, I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you, yeah, telling you how what I feel. But
Speaker 2: I know and if people don't agree, well that's just
Speaker 2: the way it is exactly anyway.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's been a while since I've been
Speaker 3: this anxious to get a football season. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 2: Know how anxious it's still kind of because we haven't
Speaker 2: been out there. We don't know, but we've been in here.
Speaker 2: How anxious? Give me, give me the love, give me
Speaker 2: the level. What do you mean anxious? Eight to ten,
Speaker 2: eight to nine seven? Because maybe anxious is.
Speaker 3: Not the right word. I'm just excited to get it
Speaker 3: started because I'm curious. I want to know. I want
Speaker 3: to see them put a forty five up on New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Someone asked me about my prediction today when I posted
Speaker 2: the forty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I see something like that, then I'm okay,
Speaker 3: we've got something. And then they then they should they
Speaker 3: should try and score like one hundred and five against
Speaker 3: an Au for beating him a couple of years ago. No,
Speaker 3: not bitter about that one. You know, run it up,
Speaker 3: keep the starters in, get to one hundred and and
Speaker 3: I'm good with that.
Speaker 2: The last memory of that any of you game, we
Speaker 2: were in the press box and the coaches were giddy.
Speaker 2: Then you told me that we own Arizona. I think
Speaker 2: it acts like you've been here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they haven't.
Speaker 2: And then they want again somewhere they hadn't been there,
Speaker 2: and they and they thinking, oh man, what have they
Speaker 2: and then they went to they were terrible that year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were awful that year. But uh no, I
Speaker 3: you know, I'd be okay if they put like eighty
Speaker 3: five on them, I wouldn't have any.
Speaker 2: Problem with them, and that would be called Saturday. Won't
Speaker 2: do that, though, No, I don't think so well, who knows?
Speaker 5: How?
Speaker 2: Who knows?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean there was that time what stoops
Speaker 3: team put a seventy or on Idaho State I think
Speaker 3: it was, and then he without even trying. I mean,
Speaker 3: they weren't. They didn't keep trying to score. They just
Speaker 3: kept score.
Speaker 2: How do you prevent court? Start?
Speaker 3: Yes, win the game right, stop them, stop them? But
Speaker 3: I just want to see I want to see the team.
Speaker 3: Mac is healthy, right, and he's running around out there
Speaker 3: and doing all the things that TAC shows. I want
Speaker 3: to see the norf Flafida got better, even though he's
Speaker 3: really good last year. I want to know that he
Speaker 3: got better. I want to know that all these guys
Speaker 3: got better. I want to see what this running game
Speaker 3: looks like. You know, with these all these guys, the
Speaker 3: only one we know is Speedy Luke, right, and Speedy
Speaker 3: is just not you know, he's not had the opportunity
Speaker 3: to to showcase all the different things he can do.
Speaker 3: I want to see what they're gonna do with him.
Speaker 3: I want to see what Jacob Mane, who looks like
Speaker 3: is he going to be one of the best linebackers?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know that Arizona's ever had.
Speaker 2: I think guys like that, like Jacob, you are who
Speaker 2: you are and if you're good, it's like Scooby and
Speaker 2: and those guys. You're just good. Yeah, you're just good
Speaker 2: and it's hard for you to unless you got fab
Speaker 2: but you got to get better. Yeah no, no, still
Speaker 2: got to get better. I think you're gonna definitely see that.
Speaker 2: It's like the offense, Like you don't know about the
Speaker 2: quarterback situation because there's a chance, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: have the same compliments of players or whatever. But if
Speaker 2: you're a linebacker or that guy, you're just gonna kick
Speaker 2: some asks.
Speaker 3: Because that's what you do. I want to see justin flow.
Speaker 3: I want to vary its that guy. I want to
Speaker 3: see you have this incredible talent, is incredible body?
Speaker 2: What are you going to That's the that's like the
Speaker 2: big mystery because you you saw him, we saw him.
Speaker 2: He first showed up here the Holy crab, who's this dude?
Speaker 2: But then he's kind of got a bottle of excitement
Speaker 2: that you need to kind of restrain because that's his
Speaker 2: issue or learning the program or whatever the because we asked,
Speaker 2: we asked, what's the what's the thing? Well, he just
Speaker 2: needs to play within the game, within the system, yeah,
Speaker 2: or you know, just let him loose on third down.
Speaker 3: So there's a there's a lot of stuff like that
Speaker 3: that I want to you know, I want to start seeing.
Speaker 3: And it's we're stilled a few weeks away, but I
Speaker 3: really want to start seeing this stuff. That's that's what's
Speaker 3: got to be fired up about this. And then just
Speaker 3: the college football season as a whole, with the college
Speaker 3: football playoff and how that's going to play be playing
Speaker 3: out towards the end.
Speaker 2: Because there's a lot to play for, right right if
Speaker 2: they do really well to get to the playoffs and
Speaker 2: then come on, this is but.
Speaker 3: All the races are going to be you know, you know,
Speaker 3: teams trying to you know, wedge their way in there,
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be a lot of games that matter.
Speaker 2: So at the end of at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: August twelfth, eleven, twelve, twelfth. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: do they make the.
Speaker 3: Playoffs Arizona, Yeah, just out Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 3: they'll finish even if second or third in the league.
Speaker 3: I think I think they're going to have a tough
Speaker 3: unless here's the only way the Big Twelve gets two
Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs, they get their champion. Right now,
Speaker 3: if Arizona win, you know, I think Arizona can win
Speaker 3: the championship. But I don't think they will, Okay, I
Speaker 3: really don't. I think I think Arizona can even win
Speaker 3: ten can go ten and two and not be in
Speaker 3: the championship game. But maybe they can be. But if
Speaker 3: they're ten and two and in the championship game and
Speaker 3: some and they say that's an eleven and one team
Speaker 3: and they lose, now they're ten and three, they're not
Speaker 3: going into yeah, right, so they almost have to Well,
Speaker 3: obviously you win the league you're in. But let's say
Speaker 3: there's two eleven and one teams in the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 3: in the in the Big twelve championship game, the loser
Speaker 3: is probably out right, so you you pretty much have
Speaker 3: to win. I was thinking all along, you you finished
Speaker 3: first or second you're in. That's not the narrative that
Speaker 3: you're hearing right now. It's it's going to be taken
Speaker 3: over by the SEC and and the Big ten. They're
Speaker 3: each going to get four teams in. A CC gets
Speaker 3: a team, Big twelve gets a team, there's a group
Speaker 3: of five, and then there's one more spot.
Speaker 2: All they did then was make it to twelve, expand
Speaker 2: the SEC opportunity that's ten. They didn't really make it
Speaker 2: mill available for everybody else.
Speaker 3: No, that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 2: They just heard more pieces of the pies for you guys.
Speaker 3: That was the plan the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, money, money was the plan.
Speaker 3: Now, let's say let's say a Big twelve team is undefeated,
Speaker 3: and then and the second place team is eleven and one,
Speaker 3: and let's say the eleven and one team wins, they
Speaker 3: got two two you know, heart to twelve and one teams.
Speaker 3: They both got to get in. It's gonna it has
Speaker 3: to be something like that. But I don't see a
Speaker 3: two loss Big twelve team getting in over say three
Speaker 3: loss SEC team or a three loss Big ten team.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's no such thing as fair, right, and
Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: The a SEC and the Big twelve are happy that
Speaker 3: they've just got an automatic bid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And and not only an automatic bid, but the first
Speaker 3: round by you know that they get that, they get
Speaker 3: to play, you know, in the second round no matter what.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's got to play out. It's got
Speaker 3: to play out.
Speaker 2: If they can get there, they're gonna be Kansas State
Speaker 2: because it's got to be kansasity.
Speaker 3: Do we do either one of us think Arizona's going
Speaker 3: to lose only two games?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But they could surprise. I mean they could.
Speaker 2: I mean the chances not happen are not very good,
Speaker 2: but they could surprise even more than we think they could.
Speaker 3: Look again, if they go do something ridiculous, it start.
Speaker 2: Four and all Kansas State, right, you know what state
Speaker 2: in Utah? Wow? Wow? And then right it gets what
Speaker 2: will happen? You'll have fifty thousand people in the state. Yeah,
Speaker 2: consistently for Texas Tech. Yeah, for that opener, And guys
Speaker 2: like Henry will not be drunk because he can drink,
Speaker 2: but he'll have fun.
Speaker 10: Go to every game.
Speaker 2: You show up and you hear your brothers from the
Speaker 2: fraternity house, you must be excited about this.
Speaker 4: I think it's good that the Kansas State game, if
Speaker 4: they lose, it doesn't affect them in the conference. So
Speaker 4: I think as long as I think the Utah game
Speaker 4: is way more important.
Speaker 3: So and who knows, again, win the league and then
Speaker 3: you're in and that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Not that this is being all whatever. But they beat
Speaker 2: Utah last year. That's got to help going up there. Hey,
Speaker 2: we did it before no one thought, and we can
Speaker 2: do it up there.
Speaker 3: And you got to beat us. We've already kicked your ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but then but then you know how Pistol
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 3: They are going to be mad, and and if cam
Speaker 3: Rising is is there right right right, and who knows
Speaker 3: what they've got, right, and that's what they've got.
Speaker 2: They're like the one day eleventh in the twelfth, yeah
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twelfth and thirteenth. I think in the two poles.
Speaker 2: They'll deserve me. That's deserve me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. But again, I just want to get
Speaker 3: I just want to start to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3: You know, I got that feeling walking into the stadium
Speaker 3: on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: You know, well, we'll probably end up going to this
Speaker 2: weekend to watch them play the Sunday. They don't practice
Speaker 2: on Saturday. I don't think they practice on Sundays, So
Speaker 2: I don't know when the first scrimmage is going to be.
Speaker 2: Did you see the new schedule? I looked at it,
Speaker 2: but I haven't really paid attention. Okay, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Jeff sentence.
Speaker 3: I have not seen it.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with that, because it'd be
Speaker 2: nice to see what we need to see before it starts.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of storylines, so as long as
Speaker 2: they stay healthy.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, the last schedule lining has there? Is
Speaker 3: there been a new one since.
Speaker 2: I think Jeff or whoever else?
Speaker 3: The last night I got was August first? Is that
Speaker 3: the one?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 2: I think they sent the new one. I have to
Speaker 2: go find it. Kind of revamped revamped schedule.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, tomorrow they're practicing at the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're doing and then Saturday there's a practice Saturday at
Speaker 3: seven thirty Saturday night. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they moved that the Saturday Saturday. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that might be like a scrimmage stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then then they actually the next two Saturdays
Speaker 3: they practice at seven thirty at the stadium.
Speaker 2: Is what I see.
Speaker 3: And that's the last schedule that I got from UH,
Speaker 3: from Jeff back on August the first. So let's see.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta go see a couple of those.
Speaker 3: I just haven't been able to make those nine to practices.
Speaker 3: There's just too much stuff going on. But they do
Speaker 3: play practice at seven o'clock tomorrow night at the stadium.
Speaker 3: I can't go to that.
Speaker 2: This is I got one dated Yeah August first, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just last week. Yeah, okay, in fact, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I made deadline for my credential.
Speaker 3: Well, you might not get to see any game.
Speaker 2: No, I'll go in. But day game, the game I think, which.
Speaker 3: Is you know you're just gonna be a big painted
Speaker 3: the butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 3: That's it. Thanks to Jack mcgrudor for being here. Thank
Speaker 3: you to Patrick McCumber from the will Cox uh A
Speaker 3: little league softball team. That was That was a great interview,
Speaker 3: had a lot of fun with him. Congratulations to those
Speaker 3: coaches and those girls. Good future ahead for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun. That was different.
Speaker 3: So tomorrow we know everybody lined up yet for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We'll find something. We'll find somebody.
Speaker 3: Exactly all right. Thanks everybody for being here. We'll see
Speaker 3: you tomorrow.