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<v Speaker 1>Around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini cast. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to line number two. Alexi, you've been very patient. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're with us, how are you this morning your commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, good morning, gentlemen. It's a pleasure to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>both of you. My impression is with the space program,

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<v Speaker 1>especially here in the United States, it is predominated by

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<v Speaker 1>government influence. The government, no doubt has military ambitions which

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<v Speaker 1>they want to perfect and create, so that is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the driving impetus to supply money to NASA and

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<v Speaker 1>the space program. But interesting, you have about what twelve

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<v Speaker 1>different countries that have the capability to put amend and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps some colony, some some structures on the Moon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be the wisest thing to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>over the next decade or so because because you know why,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you have all these colonies, you're rush at China, India, Parents, England,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. So it's all on the moon. Number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It builds an international rapport between the occupants of the stations.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all in the same place at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, and they are free from the petty

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<v Speaker 1>influences and demands of the dictators such as Putin and

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<v Speaker 1>g so they can act more independently, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a good basis for developing a high degree of

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<v Speaker 1>international friendship and working together. Are scaring you have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen before?

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds positive? A Lookxy, I appreciate that. But Rod, you're

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<v Speaker 2>more the space expert on the subject of the international

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<v Speaker 2>space cooperation And yeah, well maybe we don't hear enough

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<v Speaker 2>about the Internet efforts of what people are doing around

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, gosh, how many more hours do we have? So

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<v Speaker 3>I generally agree, although the US in terms of military

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<v Speaker 3>spending on space actually fell far behind in relative terms

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<v Speaker 3>relative their economies, both Russia and China for a number

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<v Speaker 3>of years, and we only recently started spending more or

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<v Speaker 3>what some people think we should be spending because primarily

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<v Speaker 3>of the Chinese it was perceived as a Chinese threat.

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of humans on the Moon and elsewhere

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<v Speaker 3>in space, you know, the International Space Station has really

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<v Speaker 3>been a beacon of cooperation, as I think you were

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<v Speaker 3>alluding to. Well, I see, especially with the United States

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<v Speaker 3>and Russia. So regardless of our problems on the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be crimea Ukraine, whatever, the cruise up there

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<v Speaker 3>continued to get along.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Always you know, if they get a little grumpy, they

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<v Speaker 3>can always retreat to the Russian side of the American

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<v Speaker 3>side and close a hatch. You know, they do have

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<v Speaker 3>two different habitats, but they have been getting along remarkably well,

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<v Speaker 3>and the mission controls on the ground, which we often

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<v Speaker 3>don't think too much about, have been continuing to work

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<v Speaker 3>together very well. There are still visits back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>the Americans to Star City and Russia and vice versa

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<v Speaker 3>for training and cooperation. So it's just the governments that

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<v Speaker 3>are having the trouble getting along. But I think there

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<v Speaker 3>is hope. And the other thing I'd add is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who study this stuff feel that the

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<v Speaker 3>Antarctic model is a very good one, where you have

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<v Speaker 3>a number of international settlements around the perimeter of the

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<v Speaker 3>Antarctic continent with this US base at the South Pole,

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<v Speaker 3>and they collect there to do research and work together,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when their project is done or when they

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<v Speaker 3>want to take a break, they go back to their

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<v Speaker 3>own group of people and can observe their own customs

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<v Speaker 3>and their own food and speak their own language.

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<v Speaker 1>And so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of people think, what's really forged that

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<v Speaker 3>besides just the idea of international cooperation is the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that if you're going to survive down there or on

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<v Speaker 3>the moon, you better get along because you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>need each other at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good test.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you entirely