Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
We're going to pick up where we left off with
the Johanna Schoberg deposition, so let's just get right back
to it. McCauley, and earlier, you testified that you don't
have any knowledge of what happened behind closed doors, but
you also said that Jeffrey had told you what other
girls did for him, and that he wanted you to
do those things for him. Is it fair to say
that you knew that other girls were performing sexual acts? Answer? Yes,
manage your objection foundation and forum. McCauley. And I know
you mentioned previously that your relationship and interaction with them
progressed over time. Did there come a time when you
were expected to have sexual intercourse with Jeffrey? Answer yes, McCauley.
And when was that? Answer two thousand and five. McCauley.
That's it. I just do want to also put on
the record that we're designating the testimony as confidential under
the protective order further examination by miss Meninger Menager. Okay,
you just testified that you have knowledge, you had knowledge
that of what Jeffrey was doing behind closed doors with
other girls. Was that your testimony. Answer based on what
he had told me. Menager. Okay, So Jeffrey told you
things that he had done with other girls. Answer yes, Menager,
you did not observe any of those things. Answer no, Menager,
you did not talk to any of those girls about
what they had done with Jeffrey behind closed doors. McCauley objection, menager,
correct answer correct, Menager. The only source of knowledge you
have is based on what Jeffrey told you he had
done with other girls. Answer correct to this. McCauley objects, Menager,
you said that there were possibly nude photos amongst the
other photos that you saw on various walls at the
Palm Beach House. Correct answer correct, Menager, none of them
appeared pornographic. Answer no, Menager, you didn't see any fully
frontally nude photographs. Correct answer no, not that I recall, Manager,
And you don't recall seeing any girls that appeared to
be underage. Correct answer no, Manager. You said Glaine asked
you to take photos of yourself for Jeffrey. Correct answer correct. Manager.
Did she ask you to take any nude photographs for
yourself or just a photograph of yourself? Answer a nude
photograph of myself? Manager, what exactly did she say to you? Answer?
I don't remember exactly, but I know that I never
felt comfortable. I would have felt fine taking photos of
myself my face, but I knew I was never comfortable
with it because I had to take photos of my
body and I also didn't know how to take a
photo from standing behind. You have to have someone else involved, Manager,
that's my question. How would you take a nude photograph
of yourself? Answer exactly, someone else would have to do it. Manager.
Do you recall any of the particulars of what she
said to you that led you to believe she wanted
you to do that? Answer? No, just asking for the photos. Manager.
Do you know when in your time there? Answer it
was near the beginning, because that's when I was interested
in the photography. Manager. Was it in the context of
your discussion of your photography class? Answer no, Manager, Was
it in the context of anything. Answer about the camera
she had bought for me? Menager, what did she say
in relationship to the camera that she bought for you
and taking photographs of you? Answer just that Jeffrey would
like to have some photos of me, and she asked
me to take photos of myself. Manager. What did you say.
Answer I don't remember saying no, but I never ended
up following through. I think I tried once. Manager. This
was the pre SELFI era. Correct answer exactly, Manager, I
want to go back to this. You testified to two
things just now with sigared that you said were implied
to you. Answer okay, Maxwell. The first one was it
would take pressure off of Maxwell to have more girls around.
Answer right, Manager, What exactly did Maxwell say to you
that led you to believe that was her implication? Answer
she said she doesn't have the time or the desire
to pleasure him as much as he needs, and that's
why there were other girls around. Manager. And did she
refer specifically to any of the other girls? Answer no, Manager.
Did she talk about underage girls? Answer no, Manager. Was
she talking about massage therapists? Answer not specifically, Manager. Okay,
there were other girls in the house that were not
massage therapists. Correct answer yes, Manager. Nadia is another person
that was around. Correct answer yes, Manager. There were other
people she traveled with? Answer uh huh McCauley objection Manager,
correct answer correct Manager. Other girls answer yes, manager, adults
answer yes, Manager. When I say girl, I really mean woman?
Correct answer correct, Menager. There were other women around who
hung out with Jeffrey, and you don't know what they
did behind closed doors. Correct answer correct. Manager, So when
you heard the implications that she wanted other girls around
to take the pressure off of her sexually, in your mind,
that meant other adult women that she had in her life.
Correct McCauley. Objection, witness, correct doing what I was expected
to do in a massage, you know, Menager, and Glane
didn't have anything to do with you bringing this woman
over for a physical workout with Jeffrey. Correct answer correct, Menager.
She asked you to bring another girl to be to
perform massages at the home. Answer yes, Well, she was
always asking if I knew anyone else, and so I
brought this one girl that I didn't even know. I
worked with her at a restaurant, so I didn't care
what she thought of me if anything happened, and so,
but it never turned into any thing. Manager. She was
an adult. Answer she was an adult manager working at
a restaurant with you. Answer yes, manager, what restaurant was that?
Answer it's a restaurant that's closed. It's called redacted. Menager.
You were asked about the famous people you said you
met Michael Jackson. Answer yes, Manager, but you did not
give him a massage? Answer no, Menager. There were other
famous people perhaps who were around Jeffrey's home that you
didn't meet. Correct answer correct, menager. Do you know whether
Virginia Roberts has told the truth about the age she
was when she met Gallain Maxwell McCauley objection exceeds scope
of the cross the witness. I don't have any idea
what she told them in terms of her age, Menager.
Do you know if Virginia Roberts is telling the truth
about whether she spent her sweet sixteenth birthday with Jeffrey
and Gallain Maxwell. McCauley objection, Shoberg, I don't know anything
about that, Menager. Do you know whether Virginia Roberts is
telling the truth about whether Glen Maxwell sexually assaulted her
on her first day on the job. McCauley objection, Shoberg,
I have no knowledge of that, Menager. Do you have
any knowledge of weather Virginia is telling the truth about Virginia?
Excuse me about Glenn Maxwell forcing Virginia Roberts to go
down on her McCauley objection. Witness, no knowledge menager, do
you have any knowledge about weather? Virginia Roberts is telling
the truth about whether Glenn Maxwell forced her to participate
in orgies with other women. Miss McCauley objection, Witness no menager,
do you have any knowledge about weather? Virginia Roberts is
telling the truth about whether Glenn Maxwell directed her to
have sex with Prince Andrew. Miss McCauley objection, Witness no,
only based on what I've read in the media, Manager
and Alan Dershowitz. McCauley objection, witness the same menager, Prime Ministers.
McCauley objection, Showburg, No menager, do you have any knowledge
about weather or Virginia Roberts is telling the truth about
foreign presidents? Ms McCauley objection the witness no knowledge. Manager.
Do you know whether Virginia Roberts is telling the truth
about Glenn Maxwell forcing her to participate in an orgy
with Prince Andrew and other underage girls on the island.
McCauley objection, Witness no knowledge. Manager. Did Glenn Maxwell ever
ask you to have her baby? McCauley objection, show Burg,
no menager, No further questions. McCauley, thank you for your
time we are done, McCauley, We are off the record. Videographer.
The time is one to eleven. This concludes the video deposition.
Off the record, all right, folks, So that's going to
conclude our look at the Johanna Schoberg deposition. And obviously
with all the documents that are dumping and have been dumped,
we have our work cut out for us. So, like
when you're eating any elephant, you just got to eat
it won by that at a time, and that's what
we're going to continue to do. We'll continue you to
add these documents to the catalog so that they're available
to you all and so that all of you have
the context that's necessary to understand what in the hell
happened here and what in the hell is still happening here.
All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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