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Speaker 2: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sovier and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. Jenni fan Tracks, Victor

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Nuno u et leite Prospects. Victor. How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, I'm really excited to be

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recording again with you. And how you doing?

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Speaker 3: My friend doing great? Doing great, Victor. I've been on

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the road this week. I'm I'm dazed, I'm confused. I'm

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trying to get back into the routine of everything we

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got going on here. But it's Victor. There's a place

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that you can be every day of the week if

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you care too. It doesn't matter if you're home, if

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you're on the road. You can be on your phone,

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be watching hockey. You could be I won't go into

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all that, but Victory, you could be on our discord

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is the bottom line here and all you have to

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most typical way people do it, and we give youell

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link and we get yourself in there. Victor. There are

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Why don't you tell people about those?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all kinds of bonus content through the Patreon.

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You can join our tier Dynasty, which got a couple

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Speaker 3: Victor, did you say we still have openings for the tidy?

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Is that what you just said?

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Speaker 2: We just filled a couple currently. I don't think there

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are any in need of being filled, but the waiting

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list is low right now. So yeah, you get on there,

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you might get in soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, you've got nothing to lose by doing that.

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If you're out there, if you want to participate, because

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we are definitely some people tune out at this time

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of year. You just if you've got one hundred people,

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there's just going to be a certain rate of attrition.

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But they are very fun leagues, and just imagine the

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way you could jump in, Victor, I think we should

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get to the meet. It's just you and me today,

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just you and me next week. But we'll let you

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know what we're doing right after this. It is time

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for a little check in that we're going to call

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the buyer self on the Western Conference in this year episode,

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and what Victor and I are doing, we're going to

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go back and forth, just like the Ketchup and Mustard days,

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and we're going to give one player we would buy

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on each particular team, and one player we might sell

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and defend our decisions and then mock one another for

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our decisions. So you can mock me. I won't mock you, Victor,

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because you know you're a pretty smart guy. But we're

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going to do the West Coast first, because West coast

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bias on this show always, and we're going to start

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with the Anaheim Docks of the Pacific Division. Victor, you

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are on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I got a couple of interesting

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ones here, and I will say that some of these

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in this exercise, some of these teams I might want

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to sell more than one person or buy more than

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one person, but the way we set it up is

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to buy one and sell one. So that is what

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we are going to stick with. Some of these work

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really well. Some of these might not, but I think

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for Anaheim it actually does work out pretty well. There's

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a clear buyer that I would suggest, and that is

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Jackson Lacombe. Jackson Lacombe, who was drafted back in twenty

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nineteen a second rounder. He's a defenseman, left shot D

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six two two oh five and he has been playing

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in the league just for the last couple of seasons.

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He got a couple of coffee in twenty two to

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twenty three. He played seventy one games. Last season. You

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probably didn't notice him too much because he didn't really

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do too much in terms of scoring. Before that, he

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was at the University of Minnesota and he was great.

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And this season he has a forty three point pace

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in his thirty eight games played. He's just north of

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that one hundred games played mark. And I think the

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biggest thing for me is that he's absolutely just killing it.

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In terms of all around play, he has the best

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coursing on the team, the best expected goal differential, only

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the second most time on ice behind Jacob Truba. Jacob

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Truba is not doing very well in terms of driving play,

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but he does other things and he has a big contract,

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so maybe that's why they're giving him time. And in

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terms of power play usage, you might think mac lacomb

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isn't getting much, but he is. He's got the second

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most behind Olin Zelweger, He's ahead of Minchikov. He was

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right in there, similar with Fowler before he was traded.

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And even without the power play pacing for the most

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points on the blue line by far, it's not even close.

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So he's way out producing Zellweger and everyone else on

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that blue line. And when you look at his underlying metrics,

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you might think he's more of just a defensive specialist,

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but his expected goals is really high. He's just getting

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a bit unlucky. He's not converting as much as teammates

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aren't committing as much, so he's generating a lot of offenses.

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Jackson McComb, he's just not it's just not all resulting

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in points, and so his forty three point page should

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be much higher. So that's going to be my bi candidate.

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I'll pose both of the US to U Jesse and

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then you can make a comment. My cell candidate is

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going to be Mason McTavish. And McTavish we just finished

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the World Junior Talk, and he was a hero from

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a couple of years ago. Everyone had these really high expectations,

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if you remember people. I was always telling everyone to

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lower their expectations and to calm down a bit on

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Mason McTavish, despite some people urging me to get more

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hyped on him. I just always thought he'd be more

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in this forty to fifty point range, maybe fifty forty

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five to fifty five point ish guy, and that's who

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he's been through his first two hundred NHL games played.

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He's right around that mark right now. And could there

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be more? Could this be the two hundred games played breakout?

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Sure totally, But he's at a forty point pace and

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it really doesn't deserve it seemed like he deserves any better.

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Quite frankly, I know that Anaheim has been up or

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down this season, but there are many players who have

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much better analytics than Mason McTavish, and they're doing their

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best to drive the bus and drive these plays. He's

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got the third worst expected goal differential of any Duck forward.

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He's in the Brett Lesa and Robbie fabric territory really bad.

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And at this point, this is where I've projected him

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to be. I think this is where he's going to live.

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And if anyone wants to buy into that, he still

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has that potential and he's at the two hundred games played,

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he's he's nearing his breakout, then I would absolutely sell

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to that person, quite frankly. So that's my Seale candidate.

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Jesse Bysel Lacombe McTavish. You want to either of those.

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Speaker 3: I like them both. Lacombe is a guy I have

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picked up I believe in some leagues, and with so

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many defensive prospects, it's hard to see him ever becoming

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the dominant one on this team. It would certainly be

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an upset, but I like him relative to the value

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he probably has. McTavish, you're break in my heart. I

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hope that it will just take him a few years

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to do this, but the statistics don't lie, Victor. I

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think you've got a good case there. We will move

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on at the Calgary Flames are my first team, and

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for my buy on this team, I'm gonna do Martin Paspacil.

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And it's always hard to say what the perceived value

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of some of these guys is actually. His points per

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game has dropped in tidy from last year, but there

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are so many good things going on underneath the hood here.

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He's been getting excellent deployment for half a season. Nazem

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Kadre John Huberto, the two leading scorers on the team,

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points have been minimal. He's a late bloomer for fans purposes,

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I know he's already in his mid twenties and he's

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only in his second year. The hits are through the roof,

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so you've got the peripheral floor there. He's getting a

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touch of power play Tom and ice as the season

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has gone on, but the goals of red replacement victor

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are through the roof. When I go to Evolving Hockey,

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one of the things I did for each one of

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the teams that we're going to talk about this week

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and next is look at the goals of replacement charts

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for the individual team, and his are through the roof.

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He's a close second to the top on the team,

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way ahead of all the other forwards, be just behind

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McKenzie Wiger. So the upshot is he's a pretty good

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player going forward, He's going to be perceived as mostly

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a banger. Will he ever be a first line superstar score? Yeah,

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maybe not, But he is a guy who I think

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might not be valued as or seen quite to the

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level of value I think I would have him have.

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There are so many different ways to interpret buy and

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sell Victor. The guy I'm going to have for sell

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here is going to be a guy who's maybe I

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would try to move if I was in a rebuilt

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type of situation, and it is pretty obvious Nazem Kadri

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is a guy who would fit to that mold. He's

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thirty four years old. He's still getting great deployment, but

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his advanced stats are way down. They're trickling down as

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his career has gone along. He's second to last actually

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in advanced stats. At five on five. He makes both

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the offense and the defense worse for the Calgary Flames

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out there, which is surprising for a guy who has

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as many points as he does. But it's certainly not

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as much an offensive line, perhaps as defensive. So what

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accounts for his box stats one third of his points

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around the power play. He's still doing very well on

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the power play. If you look at his career impact

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on again evolving hockey, most of his stuff is dropping.

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and second line, because of the points that he is performing,

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so many different areas of his performance have then slipping

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that I think if you can convince somebody that Nazi

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Kadri is somebody who will help him get over the

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top for the next couple of years, maybe you can

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still do it. Victor. I don't know, but what do

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Speaker 2: You're making me a little sad too, because I actually

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just bought an Asim Kadri in one of my lenks.

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I guess I was convinced enough. But this is a

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cap league where there aren't a lot of options for centers,

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and he still does a lot of the things, even

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if he's not driving as much play and doing as

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much scoring. Calgary is a confusing team. They're on that

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mushy middle and they're hanging around a little bit, and yeah,

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some of his scoring isn't as much as it should be,

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but he still covers a fair number of boxes. He

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still hits in blocks to some extent, and face off

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wins are good, those are counted in that league, and

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the shots are decent. So I that's what I was thinking.

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There were limited options and I needed to bolster my

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center depth. But in general, I don't disagree with what

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you're saying. I think and there's a trend, and if

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I think that's that's probably reasonable. He is getting a

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bit older and there might be there might be better options,

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but for a win now team or a team that's

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trying to be competitive, I think that makes a lot

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of sense. It's not going to last too much longer,

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probably for Kudrey, but that's where he is right now.

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Pasposl is someone who's really confused me because we know

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he hits a lot, But I think you hit on

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the issue is what else is he going to do

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and how much more is he going to do that?

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And at first I was really on the train of

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I think he's just a hitter. I don't think there's

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much else there, But he has shown that there is

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and that there's a little bit more, and so that's

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that's fun. And so I think that I think that

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the let's go ahead and buy him, I think that

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he's probably not going to do as much scoring still

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it is going to be his thing. But in terms

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of what he's been able to do with his play driving,

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it's been It's opened my eyes a little bit, I

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guess what I'm trying to say. So I like those

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two and let's move on to my next two and

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that Edmonton Oilers, And so I'm gonna buy Ryan Nugett

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Hopsen Ryan Nugent Hopkins. And he's been a really interesting

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guy over the years, obviously being that number one pick

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in a sort of weak draft quote unquote, and his

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scoring has been up and down. Had that one hundred

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and four point season and never broke point per game

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other than that, and so I think we know that

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wasn't who he is. But he's on a forty eight

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point pace this season. That would be his second worst

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point pace since the twenty sixteen to seventeen season, where

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he played all eighty two games and had forty three points.

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And so that's pretty bad. But when you look at

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some of his numbers, all of the main indicators of

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positive aggression are there. So his PDO is high, his

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IPP is sorry, his PDO is low, his IPP is low,

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is powerplay IPP is low. His shooting percentage is a

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touch high. Maybe that doesn't indicate anything better, but a

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lot of these indicate that he should be getting a

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little bit more points. But I think the biggest thing

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you can point to is that he's playing most of

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his time on ice with Connor McDavid, and that just

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does not lend itself to a sub fifty point pace

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for a talented player like him. Certainly, we've seen many

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third wheels rotate around with Connor McDavid and not do anything.

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But Ryan June Hopkins is not a third wheel. He's

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a very good player. He's talented player. Maybe he's not

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the most offensively dynamic player and settled in more to

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a two way role, but he is still much better

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than what he's doing getting the opportunity that he's doing

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being on the power play. So all of those things

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to me mean that he's going to deserve a lot

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more if you just regress his power play individual points

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participation to where he was a couple of seasons ago,

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he'd be near sixty point pace. So I think that

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there's some pretty good opportunity there. So I'm buying Ryan

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Nwton Hopkins if I can. Guy I'm going to sell

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is going to be Matthew Savoy. And we've talked about

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Savoy a bit on this show. He was people were

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going crazy for him when he was lighting it up

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in Junior and we were all really excited about him.

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But this season his P and H league finally crashed

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back to the range that I've realistically thought that he

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would be as a probe, and that fifty five to

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sixty point range before that, when he was in the

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dub he was scoring his his projection made him look

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like he was going to be this ninety eighty to

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ninety point guy. And he is a smaller guy. He's

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still five 'ot nine, one hundred and eighty pounds and

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he's even in the WHL you'd see him struggle with

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some of the physicality. And we saw him at the

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World Junior when he was expected to be a big

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time contributor, and it was just it wasn't. It was

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a little less than you would have hoped. Now he's

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twenty one and he's got twenty seven points in thirty

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three games for Bakersfield. That I think is a good opportunity,

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a good selling point where I think you can sell

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someone on that strong HL production because I think that

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means that he will he's still pretty likely to be

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in NHL or but how much scoring is he going

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to do in this top league? I don't think much,

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so I would take what I can get from Savoy.

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I have him in my Fantacy Hockey Life player card

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as a six point twenty five. That means he's just

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above average if five is average, and he doesn't have

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a huge percent to get there. Interesting enough, he has

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been blocking a lot in the AHL, but he hasn't

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been hitting or shooting, so his bash is probably going

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to be pretty low, and I think that I would

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still try to capitalize on that whatever hype is left,

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including his HL hype and the fact that anyone could

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get that slot next to Connor McDavid and be a superstar.

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At least, that's what you should sell him as. What

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do you think?

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Speaker 3: It's some good points and you've got me excited because

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I think I'm looking at a trade off for mean

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into me that involved Ryan Nugent Hopkins. So now you've

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got me hyped up a little bit that they're maybe

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an opportunity for me to buy rather than just add

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Do I really want him and Savoy? Yeah, this is

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one of those guys that's been in between for a while.

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We try to decide is this a guy who we

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would really want to acquire or is he a little

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bit over hyped? So yeah, but it seems like he

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might still have some price, take some value on him.

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A lot of people had put value on him before,

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so yeah, why not? I like them both. Victor the

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La Kings are next up my buye. It's hard with

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this team. I went with Drew Dowdy. Victor the Krusty

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Vett has not yet played this year. It looks like

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he's on the end. He's coming back soon. You never

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know about buying guys who have been injured former stars

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who've been injured, because sometimes people will stubb hang on.

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Sometimes people will be less willing to trade them as

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they get closer to healthy. Sometimes very savvy managers will

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wait till the guy is right right at a debut

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and then might be able to get a premium off them.

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It just depends on the psychology of the league. It's

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also going to be hard for somebody who's seen what

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Brent Clark has been doing very well, and maybe they

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have doubts that Dowdy is going to come back and

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just Dowdy away like he used to. So it needs

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to be a by low and definitely not in a

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salary league. But I think there may be an opportunity

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to get a guy who when he's rolling along, he

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could be an excellent asset for your playoff run. And

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for my cell, I'm going Kevin Fiallo Victor. He has

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been on the down low. He's been a dumpster fire

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at five on five this year, he's the second leading

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goal scorer on the team. He's going to have sell value. Obviously,

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he's a reputation of a star and near the top

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of the charts, and boys, I notice I have him

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in multiple leagues, so that's not great. But he still

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takes a whole lot of shots and that helps lead

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to the goals. But if you look at some of

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his advanced stats over time, they are not necessarily getting better,

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and even at the power play he's moving down. So

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I think that Fiala is a guy who balances the

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you could probably sell them fairly high with You need

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to be worried about the fact that he has the

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absolute worst goals about replacement on the entire LA Kings

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team this year, and to think about, now's the time

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to make that move if you can. What do you think, Victor?

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Speaker 2: My various shares of Kevin Fiala don't like and I

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am reminded that he is always a second half player,

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So maybe there's this fire that will happen towards the

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end of the season. We have seen him down the

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stretch in the last twenty thirty games. Just absolutely go bananas.

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There's only so many times you can do that. He

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has hit that over point per game. He's exiting a

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statistical prime'. He trended a little bit back down last year.

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He doesn't get the elite time on ice that some

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of those top forwards do. In fact, he has more

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time on ice he his past two seasons when he's

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had lower point pass So that's interesting. Maybe he needs

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to play less, maybe that's the answer. But yeah, I

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don't mind that. You might in a one year league

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might regret it after he goes on his typical end

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of season two. But I think that's reasonable, And yeah,

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with Dowdy, actually have Dowdy stash in a couple leagues

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on IR, so I like that. And I do think

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that he's so competitive and so fiery and such a

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leader on this team that I think he's going to

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come back and have a significant role regardless of what

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Brent Clark is doing. Even though he has been great,

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Brent Clark is not Drew Dowdy no matter how good

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he is offensively, Dowdy just does so much more and

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is going to be relied upon in more situations, even

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though he's getting up there in age. So yeah, if

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you forgot about him or someone dropped him because their

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IR is full, I would grab it doesn't cost you much.

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I think that's a good speculative ad. All Right, I'm

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going to move on to my next team, and that's

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the San Jose Sharks, And so my buye is going

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to be none other than William Eckland. I was gonna say,

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go buy a Celebrini obviously, duh, Right, he's really good,

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But William Eckland is finally becoming the player that we

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thought he could be. He struggled a bit on his

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first season last year on that just awful team that

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won the lottery and got Celebrini and Eckland, there was

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a lot of concernation about, oh, look what he's doing.

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He ended up with a forty six point pace and

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people were disappointed with that to some extent. But he

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was literally dragging non NHLers around the ice all the time,

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and he was asked to do a lot and he

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did it really well, but it just didn't end up

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in a lot of points. Now that he's got some

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more competent NHLers to play with, surprise, surprise, his point

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pays increase. I don't think anyone should be really surprised

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with that. And in case you're wondering, I made a

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reference to Celebrini, but Eckln has been doing this pretty

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much entirely away from Mackland Celebrini, he has not really

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been relying on at even strength, only twenty percent of

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his shifts are with Macklin, and actually fewer on the

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power play. I was thinking that at least they'd have

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quite a bit more together on the power play, but

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that hasn't really been the case. So what the Sharks

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really want is to have two of their best players,

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clearly Celebrini and Eckland drive their own line. And that's happening.

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And it's not like he's getting lucky. He's actually got

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a shooting percentage around his career average. His PDO is

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a touch high, but his IPP and powerplay IPP are

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actually pretty low for players of his caliber. I think

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Eckln actually might even deserve a little bit more than

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his mid sixty ish point pace, And they have some

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more competent NHLers around him, but I think they need

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to surround him with even more and once they do,

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you can expect even higher point totals. He could be

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a seventy ish point player plus with the point per

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game upside in the right situation. And he's finally trending

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that way in his and he's still only one hundred

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and forty ish NHL games played, So you look at

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that and you realize that he's still got a ways

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till that two hundred game potential breakout. And so yeah,

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I would definitely be buying William Ecklund. I don't think

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this is a mirage. I don't think it's just because

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he's playing with Celebrini or any of those things. He's

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this is who he should be, and so yeah, go

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get him if you can. The cell for me. Maybe

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we didn't mention this, but we are going to be

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I mentioned Savoy already, We're going to be talking some

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prospects as we like to do, and Thomas Bortolo is

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going to be my cell. And yeah, he was a

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second round pick back in twenty twenty. He's still five

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to ten hundred and seventy four pounds, and I think

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I was excited about him at one point there there

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was some good seasons over in Michigan. But since he's

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turned pro, oh, it's been meh, and I've lost confidence

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that he can be an impact NHL and certainly in fantasy.

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This is his third HL season, the third season where

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the expectation was he would make the team. Remember those

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past couple teams were actually pretty bad, and it was

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pretty surprising that he couldn't do more on the NHL

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team when there was tons of opportunity, and I think

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the management really wanted him to make the team and

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make an impact, and he didn't do himself any favors.

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And then this season he's really not doing well in

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the AHL. The Bearcudo is much better now, but so

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they have more roles to go around for other people,

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and he's just trending downward. I think that's the key point.

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Most of his comps now are guys that just didn't

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make it, and I have him on my Fantasy Hockey

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Life Player KRD as just a twenty four percent of

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being an average roster player, and so that's really not good.

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He's still good at face offs, but that's not really

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enough to get you super excited about it. And his

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hockey prospecting is just really trended down to being basically

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an anomaly if he makes to a star, so unfortunately,

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but if someone can still be excited. I actually did

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sell my final share of Thomas Portolo the other day

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for just an average roster player in a cap league

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because I just needed a warm body. And that's basically

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where I'm at with Portilo is I don't really expect

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much and so I'll just take whatever I can get,

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and that's what I would suggest you do.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Jesse, Oh, Victor, what happened to Bordelicious?

475
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That those were the days when he was the border

476
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,880
lots and not so bored a little as he's become.

477
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,400
Now those were happy days. So yeah it's sad, but

478
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,599
yeah it doesn't It doesn't look like it's going to

479
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,960
happen with Thomas Bordilo now William Eckland. He is in

480
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,039
that range that I have found where I just can't

481
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,400
but I can't get away with buying guys because if

482
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,519
you have that draft status and you were hot at

483
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,279
the time you're draft and now you're starting to break out,

484
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480
those guys I just find nobody wants to give up

485
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:05,240
in Dynasty. Maybe in redraft he could prime away, but

486
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,160
in Dynasty, boy, I've tried making some offers on Eklund

487
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,279
and they've gone nowhere for me. But again, could be

488
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,640
a by High type guy in Dynasty, I think you'd

489
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,559
have to You got to pay a serious price, but

490
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,599
perhaps it could be done. Seattle Kraken is I think,

491
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,480
oh no, not the last team of the Pacific, but

492
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:28,000
one of the last teams. And that is the one

493
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:32,359
I have here my buye. Shane Wright is having a

494
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,279
sneaky breakout in some ways. Maybe I just keep wanting

495
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,680
to make Shane Wright happen. But he's had a very

496
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,640
nice five on five impact. He's second on the team

497
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,960
in goals above replacement, Believe it or not, Shane Wright

498
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,039
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five is

499
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:50,599
the second on the entire Seattle Kraken in goals above

500
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720
replacement two thens done. He's made a good impact on

501
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:58,240
He's made a positive impact on the offense for the

502
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,599
team when he's out there. He's made a good impact

503
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,480
for the defense. He's made a good impact for the

504
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,920
defense too. But Seattle, of course, is a little bit

505
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,039
of a dumpster fire right now. Now he needs to

506
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,200
What would be nice is if he started getting power

507
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,880
play time, because that's what would maybe help this set fire.

508
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Because right now, obviously Cheen is not lighting it up

509
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,799
on the scoreboard. He's probably disappointing people because he's only

510
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:27,640
got twenty one points in his forty three games, so

511
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,160
it doesn't look like it's happening with him. But I

512
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,640
think underneath the surface, even though he's barely shooting, that's

513
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,680
another one of his problems, just over a shot a game,

514
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:38,119
but he's close to a hit and a block per

515
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,279
game too. Those are nice peripherals. To beginning, I didn't

516
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,119
know if we were going to get those with Bright

517
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,880
and cel I noticed in our fourth part league victor

518
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640
he got drafted or he got dropped today with a

519
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,480
full cap hit and its Chandler Stevenson. The question is

520
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,400
can you still get something out of him for his

521
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,960
rep from his Vegas days, for the fact that he

522
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:00,480
was highly paid when he came to Seattle, and maybe can't.

523
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,680
He's bringing down the team at five on five offense

524
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,839
a little, but he's a complete collapse on defense. He's

525
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240
not able to do anything on defense for this team.

526
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,799
Thirty points in forty five games. That might be enough

527
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:15,000
to sell someone. Obviously didn't sell one of our league

528
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,799
mates for sport that they dropped him and took the

529
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,240
cap hit for nothing for probably years to come. But

530
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,000
there's still a reputation there for Chandler Stevenson. Perhaps you

531
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,480
could still get something. It's not going to be something amazing,

532
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,920
but again, if you can can convince somebody else that

533
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
maybe they're buying low on a guy who used to

534
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,480
be a juggernaut with Vegas, perhaps you could get something.

535
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,480
What do you think of those two.

536
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,559
Speaker 2: Victor Probably wishful thinking on Stevenson. I don't understand, but

537
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,240
it seems like when people go to Vegas they sprinkle

538
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,519
this fairy dust on them and then when they leave,

539
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,079
it just it wears off and it come back crashing

540
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,880
back to earth. Yeah, he's been the moment he signed

541
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,279
that contract, I think a lot of us were like, wow,

542
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,279
that is a massive overpay, and they probably thought that

543
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,039
it was a bit of an overpay and they just

544
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,000
wanted some stability and good play down the middle. But

545
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,640
it has been anything but that. And yeah, that's been

546
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,519
a bit disappointing for them, I'm sure. And yeah, the

547
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,119
problem is he just doesn't really do much. One of

548
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,599
the positives about all Seattle players is that just about

549
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:20,279
any of them are as likely as the next to

550
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,359
get points. So in a non cap league, that's a

551
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,559
team you can go to, like whenever it's a good

552
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:31,319
stream week for Seattle. It's actually nice, but also annoying

553
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,559
because you just take your pick, like just close your

554
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:35,720
eyes and throw darts, because it could be any one

555
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,519
of them. And I guess that could be Stevenson. I

556
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:41,359
wouldn't want to buy him. And he's just he's so

557
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,880
frustrating in the ways that he doesn't he doesn't do

558
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,559
anything else. Shane Wright is a good call. I've liked

559
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,359
what I've seen from him. He's really got some stability

560
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,880
there with his We knew that he was a strong

561
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,640
two way player, but the question was how much more offense?

562
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,000
And I think he's been showing. He's been showing more

563
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,799
and more. It's been coming along. The whole team looks

564
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,880
just lost at times. Sometimes they show signs. But yeah,

565
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,160
I think I would buy low on Shane if you

566
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,279
count he's only fifty nine games in his career. I

567
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,839
think there's a lot more untapped potential there. If someone wants,

568
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,880
someone's frustrated, wants to give up on him, I would

569
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,039
do them that favor. Jesse for sure. All right, let's

570
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:25,240
move on to the Vancouver Canucks, who have absolutely nothing

571
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:29,440
going on. There's no storylines, there's no drama or anything

572
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:31,799
like that. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is

573
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,240
just drama and how much of it is just that

574
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,920
they that so much has blown out of proportion in

575
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400
those big markets. But it certainly seems like there's a

576
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,400
lot going on off the ice. But we're going to

577
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680
keep this on the ice. And the guy that I'm

578
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,319
gonna buy is Tom Vilander, the prospect, and he was

579
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,359
Vancouver's eleventh overall pick back in twenty twenty three. Some

580
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
people maybe thought that was a little bit early, that

581
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,440
was not a super deep draft for defense, but he's

582
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,160
a right shot. He's got good size at six to one,

583
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,000
and when his draft season, he played a little bit

584
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,160
in the SHL, mostly in the J twenty and that

585
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920
if you remember, he elected this sort of strange at

586
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
the time path. He was one of the first actually

587
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,720
that wanted to come over from Europe and be in

588
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,200
the NCAA and that's worked out really well for him,

589
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,960
and he's got some pretty decent point scoring at be.

590
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,119
Some people might point to the fact that he doesn't

591
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,839
run the power play at BU, but he's had a

592
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,440
Hudson problem this whole time lane and then Cole and

593
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,200
you're not going to take the power play away from

594
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,279
those guys. But he has been an absolute stud all around.

595
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:45,480
And at the World Juniors we talked about him with

596
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,680
Mitch Brown and Villander was the one really running the

597
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,079
power play with asp kind of in the OV spot

598
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,279
ready for the one timer. So Velander really does have

599
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:57,400
that capability. We settled on he might be more of

600
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,680
a second pair, second power play kind of, but he's

601
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,319
got strong priffs. He's gonna get pretty good time on ice.

602
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
This pinancially has him in like a mid fifties, and

603
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,640
remember that Mason gives a little boost to defenseman scoring,

604
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,839
but that's still a pretty good projection in this metric.

605
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,839
He's got comparables of John Michael Lyles, and Mike Matheson.

606
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,200
I think those would be reasonable guys. Matt Ridgeloick. I

607
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,440
think he's better than a Matt Gridgelick type in terms

608
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480
of his role on the team. So I think for me,

609
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,880
the stock up is on Tom Velander. I don't like

610
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,720
to send big offers after the World Juniors, but he's

611
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920
a guy I'd be willing to buy quote unquote high

612
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,599
on because I think he's still on the rise. And

613
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,960
as you alluded to previously, in terms of where you're

614
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920
buying a player, if you're buying high but you're still

615
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,000
on the upper trajectory, then that's okay. Then you're still

616
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,480
you can still expect more. So I am buying high

617
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:55,440
on Tom Velander if I can. The guy I'm selling

618
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,920
on is Jake DeBusk, which probably wouldn't surprise a lot

619
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,160
of people if you listen this podcast. I've never been

620
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,079
a huge fan of Debrasque and mainly because he's been

621
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,960
his whole career, it seems like he's been has great opportunity,

622
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,240
great deployment. In Boston, he had lots of opportunities with Marshawn,

623
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:17,480
with Pasternak, with bergeron at different times, and he never

624
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,079
could get over that forty fifty point pace except for

625
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:23,599
that one season in twenty twenty two twenty three where

626
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,960
he only played sixty four games, but he had fifty points,

627
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960
and so that gave him a sixty four point pace.

628
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,119
But if you look at his games to play, they're

629
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,400
always pretty low, except for the one season he did

630
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960
play seventy seven games, he had a forty five point pace,

631
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,839
and so I just don't think that he's gonna be

632
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,519
able to do more than that. You're seeing him get

633
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:46,039
good deployment in Vancouver, playing with mainly JT. Miller, Brockbester,

634
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,160
Elis Patterson. He's playing very much playing all the time

635
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,160
with one of those three, and that's just he's just

636
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,079
not getting it done. Also, his shooting percentage at nineteen percent,

637
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,160
he's almost double what he should be doing. He has

638
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,640
a high pdo. He's getting lucky. He's getting lucky in

639
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
all these situations and he only has a fifty four

640
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,039
point pace as we're recording this, he's on a bit

641
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,039
of a cold streak, So maybe wait until he scores

642
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:10,960
a little bit and then maybe you can ship him

643
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,039
out for something. But I wrote my notes here from

644
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,000
Jake Debrusk just run.

645
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,839
Speaker 3: I am on record as never having been a huge

646
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Jack Debrusk fan, And I guess you could take a

647
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:29,279
potential just saale from Vancouver one of two different ways.

648
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,079
You could say maybe there's more opportunity for him if

649
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:36,759
he sticks around, or you could say that his linemates

650
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,640
will get worse if you can get worse than just

651
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,079
not being there, as he's dealing with right now. But yeah,

652
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,759
I've got no particular desire to acquire Jake Debrusk. I

653
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,480
won't be selling him because he won't be on any

654
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:52,319
of my teams. And then Tom Vlander, Yeah, it's hard

655
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,519
to find a good buye on this team. So I

656
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,720
do like the idea of getting somebody who is in

657
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,160
the minors here, and yeah, he could have a big

658
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,039
And that's a good shout that with Hudson's on your team,

659
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,240
you're just not going to get the opportunities that you

660
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,199
might otherwise. Amazing to see that, what not even the

661
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,599
top defenseman of his own team went and led a

662
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,559
team in the World Juniors. That's how good that Boston

663
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,320
team is. Right now, on to the Vegas Golden Knights,

664
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:26,559
the bye going with Victor Olifson. Victor, this is what

665
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,840
happens when guys leave Buffalo, and the question really is

666
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,679
it too late to get on the ground floor of

667
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,760
Victor Olifsen. He's already got seventeen points in twenty four games.

668
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960
He's he missed a lot of time, but he's been

669
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,280
on fire his career. All all season lines are hilarious.

670
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,519
If you look at the chart on evolving hockey that

671
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,480
are hockey Viz. That shows the guy he started as

672
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,000
a first line player in his rookie season and then

673
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,239
gradually it declined and declined and declined, and it bottomed

674
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,039
out all the way the fourth line. And then now

675
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,039
in Vegas it's popped off the chart. It popped back

676
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,920
up to his career high from a first line. So

677
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,760
it goes all the way down, all the way down,

678
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,920
and then boom, it's way up at the top again.

679
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,679
So when we talk about Vegas making fools of us,

680
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,840
all this is yet another guy who is doing it

681
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,599
right now, so I would like to acquire him for

682
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,440
the season. He's still on the right side of thirty.

683
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,920
I believe he's right in that vicinity. I will take him,

684
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,519
And on the sales side, I will take Noah Hannafin.

685
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,159
If we thought he'd be the power play quarterback this year,

686
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,400
we were wrong.

687
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: He is not the main.

688
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,599
Speaker 3: Power play quarterback of this team. He has some positive

689
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,440
impact on the defensive side of the buck and he

690
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,920
takes a lot of block shots, which are nice in tidy.

691
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,199
His value is a little bit suppressed by the fact

692
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,400
that he's poor in fenwick and takeaway giveaway relative to

693
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,000
his teammates, and that actually costs points in our format.

694
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,400
He's a black sheep on Vegas because that is unusual

695
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:05,639
for guys not to have that going for them on

696
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,519
the team. Half point per game might come in somebody

697
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,280
else that they are fine low with Hannafin and that

698
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,559
he's going to take a big jump because of his

699
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,320
past with Calgary, the fact that he was such a

700
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,800
big story last year as a deadline deal, and I

701
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,280
just think I would rather cash out right now, Victor

702
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:27,599
and reactions to those.

703
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I definitely when people were saying, oh, he's

704
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,039
gonna no Hannifin's going to run the power play in Vegas,

705
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,519
I just I never believed it. Quite frankly, that's not

706
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:43,760
really ever been him. I know when he was coming

707
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,320
up through the ranks and as a prospect, there were

708
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:51,360
discussions of, yeah, maybe he did have some offensive document

709
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,320
but as he rose that he kept getting so many

710
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,440
opportunities in Carolina and Calgary, and he just he wasn't

711
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
that guy. He never was think he ever will be.

712
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,519
He's a strong, even strength defender. He fits into their system.

713
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960
He's a good all around player, but he's not that.

714
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,880
He's not that scoring profile that runs a power play.

715
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,079
So it never really made sense that he was going

716
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,840
to be that guy, and so I never really believed it.

717
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239
But maybe somebody still does. If they do, then you

718
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,679
gotta slightly use Noah Hannafin to sell them. But yeah,

719
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,760
I don't. I would. I would be moving away from

720
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,320
him if I could. Victor Olifson has been such an

721
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,440
interesting guy. I remember seeing him in Buffalo and just

722
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,320
the scoring when he first started was just like getting

723
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,360
all his goals. He's got twenty goals three times and

724
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,840
it looks like he was on pace to get that

725
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,119
again this season. It just seems like he needs to

726
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,760
play with Jack Eigel though. It seems like most of

727
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,599
his stop scoring seasons have been with him, and that

728
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:51,599
makes sense. He's obviously good player. This seems like there's

729
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,800
some extra chemistry there between those two. But yeah, he's

730
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440
he is getting a little bit older now, he's gonna

731
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,559
turn thirty this summer, and so it's not too old.

732
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,119
But is there more or is there more of decline?

733
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,360
I think he's more headed towards potentially a decline, but

734
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,480
then you see this great opportunity he's getting, and I

735
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,199
think that you can expect that to continue for a

736
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,760
little bit longer. I definitely like to buy on Victor Olifson.

737
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,719
I've been surprised in a few leagues that I'm in.

738
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,559
I go and look and he's available, and I'm like,

739
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:21,159
why is he available? He's doing really well. I don't

740
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,320
really understand why people are shying away from him. He

741
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,000
is a UFA after this season, so I think it'll

742
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,000
be interesting on a kap lee to see what he's

743
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,199
going to do. But I wouldn't be too worried about it.

744
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,599
I think even if he gets a raise, I don't

745
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,119
think I don't think it's going to break the bank.

746
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:37,320
Plus with the cap going up even a KAPLI I

747
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,639
would say, go buy Victor Olifson.

748
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,079
Speaker 3: No, don't leave Victor. Don't leave, not our Victor. Our

749
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,840
Victor can't leave either, but Victor oliveson particularly. Don't leave Vegas. Man.

750
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:52,000
This is what you need to be the man. Let's

751
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:53,559
take a brief break. We're going to come back and

752
00:38:53,599 --> 00:39:09,599
move on to the Central Division. Victor is the Central Division.

753
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,599
And while we may regret this entirely alphabetically, we must

754
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,679
start with the Chicago Blackhawks. Bye, do we have to do?

755
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,920
We have to buy somebody on this team, Victor. I

756
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,719
don't know. Maybe you will convince me otherwise, but I'm

757
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,440
going to go back to the well. Like we did

758
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,039
with Wilander.

759
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to.

760
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,079
Speaker 3: Kevin Korchinski because we've talked about him a lot this year,

761
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,800
and even with the performance, I have found him difficult

762
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960
to pry away in trades. I'm not quite sure why

763
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,280
he had zero points in nine games when he came up.

764
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:43,679
I thought that would help suppress his price a little bit,

765
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,920
but I think people are just savvy to know that

766
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,320
there's an excellent chance this guy is going to continue

767
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,159
to grow and mature into a very good NHL defenseman.

768
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Seventeen points to twenty eight AHL games is pretty nice.

769
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:02,719
He's still not particularly old. He's still just not that

770
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,599
far out from his draft year. And actually, if you

771
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,719
pro rated his advanced stats, even though he had no

772
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,840
points in his nine games, the guard chart that I

773
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,519
look at for the team is accumulative of all of

774
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,000
his time out there. But he was to the positive

775
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:23,920
basically on every phase of the game, probably in some

776
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
protected time, but in every phase of the game nearly

777
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,760
while he was out there. So I think he actually

778
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,440
showed a little bit when he was up in the

779
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,880
NHL US here. I would like to acquire him, just

780
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,199
because I'm reluctant with a lot of these guys. Don't

781
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,079
even tell me about Tyler Bertuzzie. I don't want to

782
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,079
hear about that guy. And on the cell, does anybody

783
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,440
still want Taylor Hall? Please take my Taylor Hall? Please.

784
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,599
He might just be in the team context of the situation,

785
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:50,559
but I know in the preseason we're talking about Taylor

786
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:54,920
Hall is maybe a guy who would be a little

787
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,639
bit of a bounce back, because we've seen it before.

788
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,360
He won a dang Heart trophy. He was a number

789
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,440
one overall pick, but look cooked on the spreadsheets these days.

790
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,719
Half a point per game this year. Maybe you could

791
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,119
commit somebody. He's still a by low. He's still got

792
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:10,719
it in him for the second half, but his play

793
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,559
has deteriorated according to the overall charts to from superstar

794
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:20,079
levels to in the last couple of years, like second

795
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:23,320
line levels. Now it's borderline third line levels in here,

796
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,079
and even his powerplay performance is spotted out. So I

797
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,599
just don't if I could still get something out of

798
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,559
Tillor Hall. Victor, he's a guy I would want to move.

799
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Thoughts on Koortchinsky Hall.

800
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I think the athletic guys were talking

801
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,840
about Kortinski and whether the Blackhawks would take Matthew Schaeffer

802
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:44,639
if they've got the number one pick, and I think

803
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480
the ideas that they would, and then maybe they would

804
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,039
move Kortchinsky, which might actually be good for him because

805
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:52,880
he's behind liftsoonoff. Now he's got Alex Vlassek who's swored

806
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,599
past him, and the development path the White Kaiser is there,

807
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,320
so it's been a little bit of a struggle for him.

808
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,000
Some of his some things are still really good about Korchynski,

809
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:02,920
but he still struggles with some of his pivots and

810
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,199
some of his footwork, and so that's making it a

811
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,599
little bit difficult to have a huge impact in the NHL.

812
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,559
I do agree that. I if people have lower their

813
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:13,760
expectations enough, I like him as a bye But if

814
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,239
some people still view him like they did in his

815
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,039
Seattle Thunderbird's day, then no, then that's not going to

816
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,960
work so well. I agree with Taylor Hall. I have

817
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,320
him in our Diesel league, and I wish I didn't

818
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,840
because he just just sits around and does nothing most

819
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,960
of the time. But yeah, he did also talk about

820
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,000
maybe moving on to a different team. He thought that

821
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,599
he'd stay there, but it sounds like he's open to

822
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,400
moving and maybe a change of scenery. I can't imagine

823
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,239
how hard it is to play on a team like

824
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,519
that where you're just getting caved in night after night.

825
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,719
So I agree with you. He looks cooked. He doesn't

826
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,840
look there's much more there. But if he did change teams,

827
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,719
then I think that would be the great, the best

828
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760
thing for your trademarket. Because you might be able to

829
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,920
move him and get something for him. My next guy

830
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,599
is the is from the Colorado Avalanche, and so I'm

831
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,000
gonna I'm gonna be buying on archery Leacanon. Actually, I

832
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,320
just got a trade offer in the couple out of

833
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,000
the Blue Jesse and it was Lecanon and Bob for

834
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:16,639
Barzil and Nadelkovich, which confused me a little bit because

835
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,119
I like both of the guys coming to me better

836
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:22,599
than the ones going away. And I know that Barzil

837
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,639
has been in a minute heater, but I just really

838
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:30,199
trust Colorado and I trust Leacanon to stay in that

839
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,480
really good deployment area. And even though he's a little

840
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,719
bit down this year, he had sixty point paces the

841
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,079
last two season, and I do agree that Barzil has

842
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:41,119
more upside, but also he's a bit of a frustrating

843
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,840
player sometimes. Anyways, this isn't about my trade offer, but

844
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,519
I think Lecanon he's continued to be getting that power

845
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,239
play roles to some extent. He hasn't had as many

846
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,960
power play points this season, but he's still getting good

847
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,119
time on ice and I don't see that going anywhere.

848
00:43:56,159 --> 00:44:01,039
There have been some there have been some rumor when

849
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,280
Natrushka has come back. At times he has bumped him

850
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,119
a little bit there, but he continues to play with

851
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,599
McKinnon and Rounton and a lot of the time, and

852
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,320
if he's not playing with him, he's usually got some

853
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,920
Muchushkin or Drew in, so he's getting good deployment. His

854
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,199
shooting percentage is a little bit high lacanon is, but

855
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:22,039
his ipp and powerplay app are insanely low. There's no

856
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,920
way when you have stars, superstars on your team that

857
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,119
you should be not getting in on that much of

858
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:30,199
the action, and he gets big minutes. I don't know

859
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,280
what else you could ask for Terry Lecinon. He's such

860
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,440
a strong defensive player. I guess that's maybe the only

861
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,119
thing is that sometimes they put him on a different

862
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,880
line just to help drive that line and to not

863
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,760
get caved in so much. So that's maybe part of it.

864
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,679
But I think Arterry Lecinon is going to get more

865
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,639
points than he currently has. The guy I want to

866
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:57,320
sell is Ivan Ivan. He is a prospect who has

867
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,519
one of the best names in hockey. As we all know,

868
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,039
there was some discussion that he had a mental name.

869
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:06,039
There was also Ivan, but apparently it's not. It's just

870
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,719
Ivan Ivan, which is unfortunate because I thought there was

871
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,440
three names. Anyways, not important. He's been playing some time

872
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:17,199
with the Avalanche this season. He isn't scoring too much.

873
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400
He made that jump last season from the Colorad Eagles

874
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,400
and it's been really solid in terms of his all

875
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,400
around play. But I just don't think that he's going

876
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,639
to be more than like a thirty to forty point guy,

877
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,119
maybe forty to fifty if everything breaks right. So in

878
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:35,000
your league, after he's not minors eligible, which he's at

879
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,960
thirty seven right now as we're recording this, it might

880
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,679
be good to move on from him. If someone thinks

881
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:41,280
that maybe he can push for a little bit more,

882
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,719
I don't think so, so i'd be selling Ivan Ivan Jesse.

883
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,840
What do you think about those two?

884
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are two good opportunities. I just I've never

885
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,000
been able to quite buy into liking in. I don't

886
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:56,320
know who it is I think is going to displace him.

887
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,519
I don't think that Landeskog is going to come back

888
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:03,800
from the vall of wingers with physical wingers and captains

889
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,679
that just can't get back in there. But he's getting

890
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,880
the job done. I don't know, I don't know if

891
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,440
I could buy him, because I feel like he's in

892
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:17,039
some ways he's at peak. But you do make a

893
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:22,840
good point that his IPP and powerplay IPP could help

894
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,760
him out a little bit more. And even yeah, he's

895
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,159
not really a guy I've considered in leaks recently, so

896
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,880
that is not something that I don't know how he

897
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,159
could have gotten one of my rosters to sell. But

898
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,719
he would be a guy who perhaps if you still

899
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,000
couldn'net some value, people are like, he's a prospect, he

900
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:43,039
got some good opportunity right away. Maybe he's in the

901
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:47,079
long term plans of Colorado, then sure, why not the

902
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,519
Dallas Stars. My bye is going to be Thomas Harley. Boy,

903
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:56,679
he's a bye high. I'm set my sides high with

904
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,679
this one, victor. I would have to pry him away

905
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,559
from somebody's grizzled hands to get.

906
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Him, I think.

907
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: But he leads the team by a mile and goals

908
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,119
above replacement. He's a couple of minutes per game behind

909
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,960
Miro Haskin. That's the whole thing. When you talk about Harley,

910
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,039
you have to talk about Hayskin because Hayskinin continues to

911
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,639
dominate the lead role for defenceman on this team, and

912
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,559
that might help you with Harley because he'll be perceived

913
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:28,599
maybe as the second best defenseman on the team. But

914
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,320
he is only two years younger than Hayskin and Haskin

915
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,440
signed for a very long time, so it's tough in

916
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,760
a salary league. He's only half the price of Hayskin,

917
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,599
it which that helps, and I would say, yeah, I

918
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,280
would say, if you can convince anybody that Thomas Harley

919
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,719
is not all that right now, it's worth a bye

920
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,440
high in my mind because I think he's going to

921
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,159
be a very good defenseman for a long time in

922
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,960
the NHL, and the cell maybe one of the most

923
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,679
obvious sales in the league. Jamie Benn. Look, I get

924
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,519
Ben's return is going to be limited. He's a win

925
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,360
now player only, but he's having that renaissance that I

926
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,199
only had to predict for six straight years before it happened.

927
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,280
Here's a play, Here's a ploy I would suggest for

928
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,960
somebody in like our league where we co manage the

929
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,320
degenerate dynasty dudes. He's been on the waiver wire forever

930
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,880
there because he's getting nine point five million in salary.

931
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,280
Ain't nobody going to do that? For a Jamie Ben.

932
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,039
But if you were a free agent Tya, if you

933
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,840
were a tanking team with salary broom, why not pick

934
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,239
up Ben, retain fifty percent of his salary and flip him.

935
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,880
Because for both the acquiring and the departing team, he's

936
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,320
only got one year left of that crazy nine point

937
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,119
five million a year contract, and so you potentially would

938
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,320
get that retention spot back after this year. The team

939
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,000
that acquired him, if they could actually take that hit,

940
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,559
is getting a five million dollar player instead of a

941
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,519
ten million dollar player. Who knows, you could maybe create

942
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,880
value for nothing with the maneuver like that in a

943
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,039
salary league, if indeed everybody agrees that five million is

944
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,559
a decent price on Jamie Ben, which you might still

945
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,559
not quite do. But he's spent on the first page

946
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:15,000
of waivers in that league forever, and yeah, I just

947
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,760
think but through the end of this year at least

948
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,079
he is going to continue to have value on Dallas.

949
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:24,320
But obviously it's a very limited time, so I'm looking

950
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,679
to move him if I can. Victor, what you think,

951
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,360
Harley and Ben? Can you give me Harley? Are we

952
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,119
in a league where you have Harley? Would you trade him?

953
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:35,039
To me for cheap. Maybe I could sell you Jamie

954
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:36,760
ben for Thomas Harley. How would that go?

955
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: I do have Thomas Harley in a couple of leagues,

956
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239
and no, I would not be selling him. I love

957
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,760
that guy. He's really talented, and yeah, if me or

958
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,800
Heigskinning wasn't on this team, he would be. We'd be

959
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,519
talking about him as one of the best defensive fantasy

960
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,840
options out there. His even strength metrics are are good

961
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:59,320
to really good, and his offensive creation is just insane.

962
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,079
I think that we might actually get to a point

963
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,400
at someday where Dallas really really leans into that a

964
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,360
little bit more, because I think that they should Hei

965
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,679
Skinen is. He's a fine power play quarterback, but he's

966
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,199
just he's not really as good as Harley, and he's

967
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,440
just saved him for all the other situations. I think

968
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,239
that would be better overall for them, and I'll serve

969
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,480
fantasy gams would love that. But yeah, Thomas Harley's awesome.

970
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,320
I would buy him anytime I can, and he is

971
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,239
a little bit cold, but that this is a good

972
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,280
time to get him. And Jamie Benn is funny you

973
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,039
mentioned that because I actually did buy him in the

974
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:38,519
sister league to the one that you and I are

975
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,199
and the one I managed on my own, And that's

976
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,599
exactly what happened. One of our gms, Blair, who's a

977
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,320
rebuilding team, he added Ben and he retained him, sent

978
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,280
him to me, and I'm very happy to have fifty

979
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,880
percent Jamie Benn plus when a cap league. As you mentioned,

980
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,599
this is only just one more season after this, He's

981
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,440
probably gonna get re signed with Dallas, and I don't

982
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,000
think he's going anywhere. He still offers a lot, even

983
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,320
if it's not as much as it once was. He's

984
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,840
still a productive player, and he's probably gonna get paid

985
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,320
a lot less, probably with some like incentives and whatnot

986
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,679
as a older player, and still be similarly effective. So

987
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,639
I would definitely try to acquire Jamie Benn in one

988
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,320
of those setups if I could, and I already have.

989
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,880
Let's move on to the next play the next team,

990
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,840
and that's the Minnesota Wild and oh boy, my buye

991
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,159
is going to be. Charlie Straml and I have been

992
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,159
a little out on streamer for a while. I think

993
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,119
most people have. He was drafted back in twenty twenty three,

994
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,159
twenty first overall when he was first drafted, people were

995
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,960
really excited about him. He's six three two twenty three.

996
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,199
He can play the middle of the ice. He was

997
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,039
at the USNTDP doing doing well, and then he went

998
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,079
and those were his d minus one season. Then he

999
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,119
spent his draft season in Wisconsin and it was a

1000
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,480
total disaster, and he stayed for one more season and

1001
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,679
it got worse, essentially, and there were a lot of

1002
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,320
documented problems with that Wisconsin programs. A lot of people

1003
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,480
struggled and left and transferred, and there was this idea

1004
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,199
of maybe it was just the environment, maybe it was

1005
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,440
just a situation for him. And so far this season

1006
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,039
at Michigan State, he has been really good, one of

1007
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,239
their best players, eighteen points in twenty three games, looking

1008
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,360
pretty good. One of the best college teams in the country. Well,

1009
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,679
the stock is up on Charlie Streaml. I don't think

1010
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,559
that it's all the way back to where it was

1011
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:29,360
in his pre draft season, but he is regaining some

1012
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,400
of his mojo and some of his potential, and so

1013
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:36,119
that's good and you could probably buy really low on

1014
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,679
Charlie Stramold. I would do that as a speculative ad.

1015
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:40,400
I think it might be worth it. He might still

1016
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,280
only be like a forty to fifty point guy in

1017
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,280
the NHL, but he's looking more and more like he

1018
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,079
could be where there was a while there where he

1019
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,079
was absolutely looking like he wasn't ever going to play

1020
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,639
in the NHL, so stuck up a little bit. Some

1021
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,559
of his equivalent season percentages still look pretty low because

1022
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:59,559
he had two awful seasons mixed in there, and most

1023
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,960
of his parables and these models do not look good.

1024
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Although there's a Mike mchel backland there which would be

1025
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,800
in the deep enough league would be an interesting asset,

1026
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,639
maybe not for some of the more shallow leagues. And

1027
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,760
the other thing that kind of helps him is that

1028
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,119
he does tend to shoot and hit a fair amount,

1029
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,679
so there is some potential there for some peripheral floor.

1030
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,440
But again I'm not saying go crazy with Charlie Shanmwin,

1031
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,039
just that there there might be a little bit more

1032
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:30,159
interest there than there was not too long ago. The

1033
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,400
cell for me is going to be Aaron Kivy.

1034
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:32,679
Speaker 3: Har you.

1035
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: He did nearly, just nearly captain the Fins to gold

1036
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,920
medal at the World Junior Championships, and he had a

1037
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,039
great tournament. He's improving his NHLer stock. He's playing professionally,

1038
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:47,119
he has played professionally for the last couple of seasons.

1039
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,199
He's still undersize. He's five ten now one hundred and

1040
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,159
eighty pounds. I thought he did well handling the pressure

1041
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,000
in some of the physicality, but I just don't think

1042
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:58,519
that high octane offense is there or going to be

1043
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,480
there at the next level. As the games speeds up,

1044
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,400
you don't see him doing as much with that. You

1045
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,159
see him making solid plays and getting out of pressure,

1046
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:08,559
but not dictating the play and generating as much. So

1047
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,400
I think if it all breaks right, kiv Harry is

1048
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,119
more of a third pair, second power play kind of guy,

1049
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:16,079
which isn't super exciting, and you look at some of

1050
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:20,280
his comparables in the PNHLEI model and it's pretty sad

1051
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,320
someone like Karl as Elsner who was not super exciting,

1052
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,320
and in the hockey prospecting model it's also been pretty low.

1053
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,960
So I have him in my prospect cards as just

1054
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,039
a five point five one to five, which is basically

1055
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:36,639
a low percentage to even be an average roster guy.

1056
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,519
So that's not super exciting, but maybe you can sell

1057
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:41,880
on some of that world junior hype and some of

1058
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,920
that potential rising, which I think he is rising a

1059
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,079
little bit after quite a depressed I thought you should

1060
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,679
there for a while. But I still don't think it's

1061
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,599
going to rise enough to be super interesting, so I

1062
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,199
would sell him Jesse.

1063
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit of meh, I would say

1064
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:05,519
there on the old Minnesota Wild. I'm not expecting a

1065
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:09,679
huge return for Strammel. I don't know how fired up

1066
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,760
I am about kiv harre you, but yeah, it is

1067
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,599
a good point that he really showed us something to

1068
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:18,039
the World Juniors. That is, That is what it is.

1069
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,079
That's I don't know anything, of course about the Minnesota

1070
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:24,320
Wild because ESPN won't let me watch them because it's

1071
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,679
decided that Milwaukee is actually located in Minnesota and therefore

1072
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,360
Blacks at all the games. But you're talking about prospects,

1073
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,079
so that's not relevant anyway. Let's go to the Nashville Predators.

1074
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:38,360
Talk about a season. We have a season that makes

1075
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,960
Vancouver fans feel optimistic after winning the off season. It's

1076
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,079
always the team that wins the off season. Man, it

1077
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:48,559
never goes well. I am going with a buye of

1078
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,880
Zach LaRue. We've talked about him multiple times this year,

1079
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,400
and it's all coming together for Zachary la Harue. The

1080
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,079
hits are there, after all. That was something I worried about.

1081
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,039
He was very physical in terms of taking pims when

1082
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:04,719
he was in the minors. But I'm very encouraged to

1083
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,960
see that he's getting over three hits a game. That's

1084
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,039
what you would expect from a guy with his pedigree

1085
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,920
or his style. Especially one of the big things about

1086
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840
him is he's only getting eleven minutes a game and

1087
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,239
he's doing quite well in that limited defensive role. If

1088
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,639
you would have had odds this year on the rookie

1089
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,000
most likely to get suspended, you probably would have picked

1090
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:31,239
zach LaRue and you would have been right, because he

1091
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,760
got some suspension this year. He's only got nine points

1092
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,039
in thirty six games, so I'm not sure that he's

1093
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:40,559
high on people's interest charts at this point. But if

1094
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:44,840
you look at individual expected goals per sixty so I'm

1095
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,079
trying to look at a rate stat from his style

1096
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,199
of play. He was fourth out of fifteen players on

1097
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,559
the PREDS for guys who had at least four hundred minutes.

1098
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,239
He's ahead of Stamkosen Yosi in individual expected goals per

1099
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,840
sixty again nine points in thirty six games, but playing

1100
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,480
roughly sixty percent of the minutes of the top forwards.

1101
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:07,360
He is a guy in a defensive role. Obviously he's

1102
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,199
sparied on a lower line right now, but I wonder

1103
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:11,760
if Hill Tom Wilson is way up the lineup in

1104
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,320
time under the surface. I'm pretty happy here. If the

1105
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,679
Predators start to sell, who knows where this guy could

1106
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:22,000
go in the pecking order. And again, he's just a rookie.

1107
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,639
He's got a physical reputation, It'll probably take a while

1108
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:29,239
before he is respected in that way. And in the

1109
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,079
cell side, I don't know where to go. Here's the deal.

1110
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,480
I'm gonna sell Roman Yosi, and here's why, because I

1111
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:38,199
still think I can get a king's ransom for Roman Yosi.

1112
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,599
Don't I'm not saying sell him cheap, and I'm not

1113
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:44,679
really saying what he's doing is unsustainable. These cells can

1114
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,039
mean a lot of things, and I'm going to make

1115
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,159
every single one of the cases for one of these guys.

1116
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,920
I think you can sell him extremely high because his

1117
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:54,039
value is there. His value is there. He really hasn't

1118
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:58,559
lost underline value, especially if you are in my league,

1119
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,719
the original Dynasty League of FHL, where I'm trying to

1120
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:04,119
sell him for parts, there are not many win now

1121
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,800
pieces here what I did there, Victor See, I'm always

1122
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,320
thinking there are not many win now better win now

1123
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,800
pieces among defensemen because he still racks up points and

1124
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,960
his overall value line is somehow still rising. So the

1125
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,239
point I'm trying to get at here is at in

1126
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,360
his mid thirties, this is a cell, but this is

1127
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,039
a cell where I feel like I can get a

1128
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,719
whole lot in return. What do you think Ala LaRue

1129
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,880
and Yosi?

1130
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them both. I definitely would like buying Laru.

1131
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:37,719
I've liked him for since he's turned pro. He's really

1132
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,400
turned things around, turned my impression, and yeah, he's actually,

1133
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,360
as you mentioned, been really good and a lot of

1134
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,159
offensive metrics that I really didn't think was gonna be

1135
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:48,960
there quite frankly, and he's got that peripheral floor as

1136
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,480
long as he keeps the pins and suspensions down, which

1137
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,360
hopefully he's learning to toe that line. Yeah, and Rosie

1138
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:59,480
Yosi is someone that I I've actually been encouraging people

1139
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,280
to buy because yeah, what he's been doing, people are

1140
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:09,679
of course used to all the amazing things that he

1141
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,159
has been doing, and it has been really tough in Nashville,

1142
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:16,280
and what he's doing looks a lot worse. But he's

1143
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,920
still Romanosi and I think he's still good enough to

1144
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,519
get his points and everything. So I would want to

1145
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,000
buy him if you were selling, but as you said,

1146
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,079
it would have to be at value, not or at

1147
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,440
what he at his potential, not what he's doing now.

1148
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,800
So maybe having to pay a little bit more. Let's

1149
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,199
move on to the Blues, and so my cell is

1150
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:42,159
going to be Dylan all the way. He's really proving

1151
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,880
that he is an excellent player that cannot only survive

1152
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,599
with more time on ice, but he can thrive. And

1153
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,920
it's often true that death players can look good in

1154
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,440
sheltered roles, and you look at some of the expected

1155
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,360
goals and some of the goal differentials and you say, oh,

1156
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,760
this is you know, third liner is amazing. Just give

1157
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,800
him first five minutes and he'd be superstar. That generally

1158
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,760
doesn't work out, I would say, but for Holloway, I

1159
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,840
think it has. You look at what he's done. His

1160
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,679
time on ice went from eleven twenty two in Edmonton,

1161
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,480
and he was a pretty important player in that Stanley

1162
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:20,599
Cup run, and then it's jumped up over five around

1163
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:24,639
five minutes. He's getting more responsibilities playing against tougher players,

1164
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:28,239
and he's absolutely killing it. His expected goal differential and

1165
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,800
his offense and defensive impacts are some of the best

1166
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,280
in the league, and certainly some of the best on

1167
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,599
the Blues. And he looks awesome. He's rocking a sixty

1168
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:39,039
ish point pace right now, looks Legit actually looks like

1169
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:42,239
he can do more. None of his percentages are wildly high.

1170
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,239
His shooting percentage is maybe a little bit above his

1171
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
career average, but and his PDO is maybe a little

1172
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,760
bit high. But he's actually it's not unreasonable to where

1173
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,199
you would expect. I guess the question is whether you

1174
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:55,800
expect that he is this good of a player or

1175
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,960
whether he never was and will regress back to being

1176
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,199
a third liner, which I don't think is really the case.

1177
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,280
So I would be buying on Dylan Holloway. You know,

1178
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,280
you like to see the commitment that was made to him,

1179
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,039
and you know, maybe that looked like, you know, a

1180
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,079
bit of an overpay. I think some people thought it did.

1181
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:18,400
But two point two nine is not a terribly high

1182
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,280
amount for a player that's doing what he's doing. And

1183
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,239
so in a cap league, he's also looking pretty good

1184
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:27,119
and they've committed to him, the Blues have for a

1185
01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:30,960
couple of seasons, so you like that. The guy I'm

1186
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,360
gonna sell is Cam Fowler. And as we're recording this,

1187
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,199
he's a point per game in his last eleven games

1188
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,840
and his shooting percentage and PDO are high. For Cam Fowler,

1189
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,480
all of that high variance is amounting to a forty

1190
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,840
point pace, which this is all for me. It's always

1191
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,039
been the same with Cam Fowler. He gets all this

1192
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:57,079
great time on ice power play, and he gets goes

1193
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,320
on streaks and then you look at the season pace

1194
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,119
or whatever, and he's pretty much always in this forty

1195
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:05,199
ish thirty five to forty five ish point range. That's

1196
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:09,159
where he's lived almost his entire career, and so that's

1197
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:10,920
what I think he's going to regress to. Although to

1198
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,480
be fair, he does have a sixty two point piece

1199
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,639
in a Blues uniform, so he has been rocking a

1200
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:21,559
little bit higher potential there. Justin Falk is still getting

1201
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:24,719
more power play time and Prunevinch got a decent amount.

1202
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,360
Broberg as well, So this is often the case with

1203
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,599
Fowler as well, is that there always seems to be

1204
01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:32,480
a better option to run the power play, and when

1205
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:35,199
he does it, he's fine. He's not super impressive or

1206
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:37,039
great or anything, and only has two power play points

1207
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,599
this season combined in Anaheim and Saint Louis. So I

1208
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:42,559
just don't buy this from Fowler. I never have, and

1209
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:45,039
never sustains at all. He always regresses back to that

1210
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:46,760
player he was. Plus he's a bit older, so I

1211
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,880
think there's even less reason to believe that he can

1212
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,400
sustain it. What do you think, Jesse?

1213
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:56,599
Speaker 3: I do Holloway, and he was a guy who got

1214
01:02:56,639 --> 01:02:59,440
some attention in the off season because of the offer sheets.

1215
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,159
It was probably little higher profile move for a fellow

1216
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:05,559
who was maybe in a little more depth roll in Edmonton.

1217
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:10,840
But I like you already ran down one Wisconsin Badger

1218
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,519
earlier victory. Let's celebrate Dylan Holloway, a former Wisconsin Badger

1219
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:18,840
back when that program was working. Yeah, I do like him.

1220
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,880
I definitely would buy Dylan Holloway. In fact, I think

1221
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,639
I've tried to buy him for several years, and I

1222
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:26,599
don't know that I've actually acquired him anywhere. But I

1223
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:31,960
still like the guy and Fowler. Yeah, it's like I

1224
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:36,400
keep under rating Fowler. I feel like he is a

1225
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,760
player who I thought when he was moving in out

1226
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,760
of Anaheim this is That's about it for Cam Fowler.

1227
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,440
But he really does. Even in that team of Saint Louis,

1228
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,360
where it seems like they have fifty million defensemen of

1229
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:55,679
a slightly above average type level, he is getting a

1230
01:03:55,719 --> 01:03:58,880
fair shot. It seems like there if you can convince

1231
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,280
somebody that he has value now than great. I don't

1232
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,199
know how he would be to convince me of that

1233
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,079
in terms of his trajectories.

1234
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: But I like it.

1235
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: Victor, and onto the Winnipeg Jets. Let's talk about them, Victor.

1236
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:20,920
I'm gonna mess with you this time. I'm going to

1237
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,559
buy and sell Gabriel Valardi. Let's have chaos. Let's rock this, yolo, Victor,

1238
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:31,440
Gabriel Valarde. Here is the thing with Vollardi. He's tops

1239
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:36,719
on the team in offensive goals above replacement. He's nearly

1240
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,880
at a point per game. He finally is doing this

1241
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,079
after all those years where we kept waiting on him.

1242
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:47,480
Now he's forty one points in forty six games. I

1243
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:50,159
think it's forty six maybe that says forty eight. I

1244
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,840
don't know, but maybe you can find somebody on the

1245
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,719
one hand. On the one hand, victor if you are

1246
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,199
trying to buy him, maybe the other team doesn't trust

1247
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,480
it yet. Maybe they think they're selling high. Maybe they

1248
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:04,559
think he's riding the wave of a Jets team that

1249
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:08,880
can't do this forever. And they could be right. On

1250
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,159
the other hand, Mark Scheifley and Kyle Connor are pretty

1251
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:17,400
awesome linemates, so there's some reason to keep him on

1252
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,559
the flip side if you're going to say something more

1253
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:22,760
negative and try to sell him. And again, it's all

1254
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,159
about value. It's where you can get value. At this point,

1255
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,199
his peripherals floor is awful this time, and as Fenwick

1256
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960
and give away takeaway ratios kill him in tidies, he's

1257
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,239
more of a sell, I would say in our tidy

1258
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,440
format if people aren't just looking at the row score

1259
01:05:37,519 --> 01:05:39,559
and thinking this is a guy who's getting all these

1260
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:43,760
goals and assists and he's hitting restrict a free agency.

1261
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,800
So I think also in salary he could be a

1262
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,960
less valuable player here in a couple of years. But man,

1263
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,519
he has been racking up the points, especially in this

1264
01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:55,559
middle section. Of the year, and he's pretty much been

1265
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,639
locked together with Shifley and Connor all year. This has

1266
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:02,440
been highly unorthodox, but value is always relative. What do

1267
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,880
you think about Gabriel Ballardi.

1268
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,119
Speaker 2: I think you're trying to cheat on the assignment, Jesse,

1269
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:07,920
That's what I think.

1270
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,719
Speaker 3: I swear you would think that this meant I ran

1271
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,760
out of time on Winnipeg, but I didn't. Winnipeg was

1272
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,079
in the middle of my prime session.

1273
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Baker, mm hmm, all right, I'll allow it. I've always

1274
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:25,400
been confused with Villardi, you know, back when he had

1275
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,000
those in the back injuries and the not playing in

1276
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:31,320
fn LA, and it was just you know, you knew

1277
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,960
that he had the offensive talent, but was he going

1278
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,400
to get there? And those three guys in Winnipeg are

1279
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,400
all similar. They're all like straight offense guys. They don't

1280
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,440
really play defensively, but they do score a lot and

1281
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:44,480
he's part of that, and he's doing well and the

1282
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,199
team is rocking it, so our to not like what

1283
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,480
he's doing. Yeah, the question is how long is this

1284
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:53,480
going to continue? Is it going to is he gonna

1285
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,360
be there long term and still have this plush assignment

1286
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,440
and position we got Shiflee and Connor locked in there

1287
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,280
for O'Connor at least for a couple more years, Shifely

1288
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,159
for four more. So if he continues, then then I

1289
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:08,920
think that he's probably going to get paid a decent amount.

1290
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,079
And if he stays with them, then you're gonna be

1291
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:13,440
pretty happy about it. And a capolague though you have

1292
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:16,960
to imagine he's going to get probably six or six

1293
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:18,800
or something. He probably is going to get double or

1294
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,039
so what he's paying getting paid now, and maybe a

1295
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:24,400
little less, and so that might hurt a little bit.

1296
01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:28,119
But I've never been a huge fan, just because a

1297
01:07:28,119 --> 01:07:30,679
lot of the other priffs are light and he's never

1298
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:33,000
been a big shooter. And so it's one of those

1299
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:35,719
points only plays that if you're good with that, then

1300
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:39,840
it can be good. But yeah, I probably am not

1301
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,400
buying or selling Jesse, So there you go. Does that

1302
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,760
mean you disagree? I don't know what it means. I

1303
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,800
don't have any shares of him, so I can't sell him.

1304
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,760
But I also am not interested in buying him.

1305
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do both and you're trying to do neither.

1306
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:54,239
I'm calling that a disagreement.

1307
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,639
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, all right, that's fair. Maybe this one will

1308
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,199
we'll have some more agreement. So for Utah that's the

1309
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:04,760
next team. I'm going to make this an all goalie version,

1310
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,320
and that is because right now, if you look at

1311
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,599
the numbers, Corell vill Melka has been having a great season,

1312
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:14,559
There's no question about that. He has looked really good.

1313
01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:18,199
And Connor Ingram, who had a pretty good time last

1314
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:21,520
season or two, he hasn't looked as good. There's been

1315
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,680
some reasons for that though, twenty eight games played for

1316
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,640
vill Melka, fourteen for Ingram, who's just recently come back.

1317
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,319
He missed a lot of the first part of the season.

1318
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,319
But basically, what I would say is what's happening right

1319
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,279
now with Ingram and ville Milka is the opposite of

1320
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,840
their career trend and what it would suggest if you

1321
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,479
look just at this season the vill Mecca has been

1322
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,199
better with the Delta Fenwick and gave some game goal

1323
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:44,680
save above expected. But for the past several seasons it's

1324
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,159
very clearly Ingram and I'm not sure that you need

1325
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:51,439
to look too much farther past the personal issues that

1326
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,439
Connor Ingram has had with lose tragically losing his mother

1327
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,800
and then it seems like it really affected him hard.

1328
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,520
I think it affects most people hard, but it seemed

1329
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,039
like a he really struggled with it, and I'm banking

1330
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:06,119
on that bounced back from Ingram to get back to

1331
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:09,439
where he was. If you look at the expected numbers,

1332
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,640
it's really dramatically in favor of vell Melka. Obviously, the

1333
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,000
team has been much better this year too, and so

1334
01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:17,600
I think you have to take that a little bit

1335
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,840
into account that they have it bolstered some of their team,

1336
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,399
it has improved, They've They've made some pretty key additions

1337
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,319
and I think that's all been really good and that's

1338
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,159
probably helped him a little bit. They are paying will

1339
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,039
Melka a little bit more, but they have one year

1340
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,760
more commitment to Ingram, so I'm not sure if that

1341
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,359
really clarifies anything. But if you look at the past

1342
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:44,199
several years, the goals save above expected for Ingram is

1343
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:46,720
seven point six five and negative eight point two to

1344
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,720
one for val Melka, and that's including vill Melka has

1345
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,279
positive eleven point one six this season, so that's how

1346
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,199
bad negative he has been in the past. The Delta

1347
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:59,359
Fenwick is also dramatically better, with zo point twenty four

1348
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,600
for Ingram and negative point one four for vill Melka.

1349
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,119
There is a Jackson Stauber in here in case you're wondering.

1350
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,880
He's had ten games over this several year span, and

1351
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,079
when he has played, he's looked really good. But I

1352
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:12,720
don't really think that he's a clear challenge in terms

1353
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,079
of being a volume starter. So for me, I would

1354
01:10:16,359 --> 01:10:18,880
and I think that Utah, depending on how the rest

1355
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,640
of the season goes, they might consider trading will Melka

1356
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:25,319
for a contender and riding with Ingram. Maybe if they're

1357
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:27,720
in the mix, they don't do that, which they're hanging around.

1358
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,640
For me, I'm saying I'm buying Connor Ingram and I'm

1359
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,920
selling Corelvillmelka based on this, I think that what's happening

1360
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,720
this season will revert back to what has been happening previously,

1361
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,680
and I have more faith in Connor Ingram being a

1362
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,439
long term better goalie. Jesse, what do you think?

1363
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, Victor, you're shaking me up. I will admit

1364
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,800
I don't think I have any goalies as a part

1365
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,600
of this process. But the yeah, Connor Ingram does seem

1366
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,399
to be Yeah, he seems to be the man on

1367
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,880
the rise with this team and the guy that I

1368
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,880
would rather invest in. So I think I agree with

1369
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:08,319
you in terms of that, even though the Milka has

1370
01:11:09,279 --> 01:11:12,439
had the dominant share of the starts, I do think

1371
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,479
I trust him more long term than I do Vameilka,

1372
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,920
or I trust Ingram more long term than I do Vameilka.

1373
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,840
So I like that. That's a good call, Victor, and

1374
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,119
it's sneaky. There's a lot of people who'd probably look

1375
01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,760
at that and see it differently given some of the stats, Victor,

1376
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,439
I think that is going to do it for us

1377
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,560
for the Western Conference. Any other comments to make on

1378
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,079
this West Coast Bias conference before we wrap up the show.

1379
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,319
Speaker 2: And obviously we try to take a longer term, longer

1380
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:43,560
view here, not just what's the rest of the season,

1381
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,520
but you can certainly think about it that way. You

1382
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,960
can certainly think about it Dynasty two three years in advance.

1383
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:51,520
But if you're thinking about buying or selling any of

1384
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,000
these guys, then pop in the discord ask us about it.

1385
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,920
I think that's a great place to chat about it.

1386
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we'll be back to close up the show.

1387
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:13,960
A couple of more things to mention before I get

1388
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,720
out of here today, you can play fantasy sports on

1389
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,199
fan Tracks ten different sports there. They've got all kinds

1390
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:24,359
of different settings. It's where we're playing our fantasy hockey

1391
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,560
leagues right now, because you can do all the rookie

1392
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,880
stuff you'd want to do. For one thing, there is

1393
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:33,439
also a fantasy content at fan tracks HQ articles on

1394
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,960
all the different sports that you would want to see.

1395
01:12:36,359 --> 01:12:40,279
We've got a whole team helping out FHL. You hear

1396
01:12:40,359 --> 01:12:42,079
some of them on the show. You see their work

1397
01:12:42,079 --> 01:12:45,479
over there in the discords Craftzer, Ryan, Shimon and Tim

1398
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:49,520
they are the commission team with the Tidy leagues. Jeremy

1399
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,479
V and Tony are doing yeoman's work getting our scouting

1400
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,600
reports together as our lead scouts. Brandon is a website guru.

1401
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,439
He's a scout. He helps with prospect ranks and visualizations.

1402
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,720
If you think there'd be cool things that you could

1403
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,119
help us do over here at Fantasy Hockey Life, Victor

1404
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:11,479
is all ears. He's willing to talk to you over

1405
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,239
there in the discord email or x or Blue Sky.

1406
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:17,600
We're also brought to you by Dauber Hockey Daber Prospects.

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Victor is an editor there follow us work there as

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well as this other podcast, Daber Prospects Report with Peter Harlan.

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Victor's articles are at Elite Elite Prospects. He's part of

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the fantasy team Cam Robinson, Mike Clifford, other notables in

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that area, and he's put out a lot of good

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content there you should definitely catch up with. And I

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do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk

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all the different Dynasty sports. This week is going to

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be a football episode, the first of several episodes to

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preview the upcoming NFL Draft class. So if you're in

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Dynasty Football and you want to look at your rookies,

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got a friend of mine who's going to be popping

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on and recording with me later on today. Follow us

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on x at Hockey Life at Victor Nunno. Twelve or

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Blue Sky V one Victor or Jesse Severe, or you

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can just subscribe rate review on all your podcast aggregators

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podcast applications. We'd appreciate five stars. Not everybody's listening to

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a fantasy hockey podcast in late January, but you are,

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and you even listened to the outros, which just shows

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me the level of your dedication. So I would think

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it's really a small leap to go the next level

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and leave five stars if you haven't done so so far,

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or just say hey, Victor and Jesse are cool. Just

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say that doesn't have to be true. Just say it

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see Internet, nobody will know. Thanks everybody for listening. Hope

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you enjoyed this edition of Western Conference by Cells, and

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until next time, keep living that fantasy hockey life.