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<v Speaker 1>I want you to imagine just for a second that

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<v Speaker 1>you are the lead architect of a multimillion dollar satellite.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh wow, no pressure there, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've spent years, maybe decades even planning this

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<v Speaker 1>entire infrastructure. You've got these incredibly anxious investors breathing down your.

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<v Speaker 3>Neck as they do exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you have entire sectors of global communications depending

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<v Speaker 1>on your network. So you finally do it. You successfully

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<v Speaker 1>launch hundreds of these hyper soshisticated pieces of hardware into lower.

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<v Speaker 2>Orbit, a massive achievement, honestly huge.

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<v Speaker 1>And to keep them safe, you know, to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they don't literally just fall out of the sky and

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<v Speaker 1>burn up. You are relying on the absolute gold standard

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<v Speaker 1>of space weather forecasts.

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<v Speaker 2>The best data money can buy, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The best astrochrist models that human civilization has to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>And these agencies, with billions in funding, they look you

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye and tell you that the environment up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to be quiet, basically telling you the sun

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<v Speaker 2>is taking a nap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you build your network for a calm environment,

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<v Speaker 1>You optimize your fuel, you lower your orbits to reduce latency.

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<v Speaker 2>You're feeling great, makes total sense based on the data, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Then without warning, the upper atmosphere just suddenly boils up.

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<v Speaker 1>What was supposed to be a near vacuum suddenly turns

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<v Speaker 1>into this invisible, expanding wall of friction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like hitting a brick wall made of air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it grabs your satellites like they're driving into a swamp,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just starts dragging them out of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sky, bowling them right down.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just have to sit there and watch the

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<v Speaker 1>telemetry on your screens as your life's work burns up

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere one by one.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a total nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd think I'm pitching you the setup for a new

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi disaster movie, right, But I'm not. That is

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<v Speaker 1>not a hypothetical scenario. It actually happened recently.

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<v Speaker 2>It did, and the implications of it are just absolutely staggering.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the kind of event that forces a

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<v Speaker 2>complete reckoning in a scientific.

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<v Speaker 1>Field because they got it so wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly when the physical reality of what is happening above

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<v Speaker 2>our heads collides that violently with the supercomputer models we

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<v Speaker 2>used to predict it. You can't just tweak a minor

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<v Speaker 2>variable in an equation. You have to stop and ask

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<v Speaker 2>if your entire fundamental understanding of the system is just well.

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<v Speaker 1>Flawed, welcome to thrilling threads today. Our mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>untangle a cosmic mystery that is right now actively threatening

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<v Speaker 1>the modern interconnected way of life that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>take for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking directly at solar cycle twenty five, right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a current period of intense solar activity that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just surprise scientists, it fundamentally broke the predictive models

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's top astrophysicists.

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<v Speaker 2>It shattered them. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you're listening to this on a smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>or using GPS to navigate your car, you are currently

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<v Speaker 1>relying on a fragile chain of technology that was built

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<v Speaker 1>under a.

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<v Speaker 2>False premise, a very expensive false premise.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, think about humanity's reliance on these solar forecasts. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's as if we decide to build a massive, intricate

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<v Speaker 1>sand castle right on the edge of the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like this analogy, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We felt totally safe doing it because we checked the

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<v Speaker 1>official tide chart, and the chart guaranteed the water wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>come anywhere near us for years.

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<v Speaker 2>So you build it as close to the water as

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<v Speaker 2>you want, right, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we realize, right as the water starts rushing in

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<v Speaker 1>and dissolving the walls of our castle, that the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>is playing by a completely different set of rules. We

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<v Speaker 1>built our entire digital sand castle based on a fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>flawed understanding of the tide.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the perfect analogy for the vulnerability we've created

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves, because, you know, to understand the very real

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<v Speaker 2>danger that is hovering above us right now, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>just look at today's satellite data. We actually have to

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<v Speaker 2>travel back a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>How far back?

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<v Speaker 2>We need to go back to an April twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>meeting where the scientific establishment made what turn out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a dangerously confident prediction. Oh well, okay, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to untack exactly how that prediction was made and

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<v Speaker 2>why it failed so spectacularly, looking at the poststorm impact analyses,

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamental physics of the solar dynamo, and some very

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<v Speaker 2>recent sobering reviews from the exact scientists who had to

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<v Speaker 2>admit they were wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, so let's set the scene. Take us into

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<v Speaker 1>that room. If I am a fly on the wall

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<v Speaker 1>in April twenty nineteen, who am I? Looking at and

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly are they trying to do?

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<v Speaker 2>You are looking at a gathering of the absolute heavyweights

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<v Speaker 2>in space weather. I mean you have top tier solar

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<v Speaker 2>physicists from NOAA, from NASA, and from the International Space

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<v Speaker 2>Environment Services, best of the best exactly, and they sat

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<v Speaker 2>down to do what this specific field has been doing

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<v Speaker 2>formally since nineteen eighty nine. They were going to predict

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<v Speaker 2>the behavior, the timing, and the maximum strength of the

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<v Speaker 2>next solar cycle, which was solar cycle twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to clarify for everyone listening, a solar cycle

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<v Speaker 1>is this roughly eleven year period where the Sun goes

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<v Speaker 1>from being relatively calm to violently active and back to calm.

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<v Speaker 2>Against right, like a heartbeat. But how do they.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually measure that? Like, if I'm looking at the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>through a heavily tinted solar filter, what am I actually counting?

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<v Speaker 1>To give me a number?

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<v Speaker 2>You are counting sunspots. The consensus prediction they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to arrive at is what we call the smooth.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunspot number of spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, And this goes all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>scientists like Galileo and later Rudolph Wolf in the eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>They realized that the number of dark blemishes the sun

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<v Speaker 2>spots on the Sun's surface directly correlates with its overall

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<v Speaker 2>violent activity.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is a sun spot? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Physically, a sunspot is basically a massive magnetic storm on

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<v Speaker 2>the surface of the Sun. So a low sunspot number

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<v Speaker 2>means a quiet sun. A high number means a very active,

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<v Speaker 2>potentially dangerous star that is hurling radiation and plasma into

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<v Speaker 2>the solar system.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's essentially a weighted thermometer for the Sun's temper exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>And these physicists in twenty nineteen, they didn't just throw

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<v Speaker 1>darts at a board, right, I mean, they brought an

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<v Speaker 1>immense amount of computational power to this meeting to try

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<v Speaker 1>and read that thermometer years in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, unprecedented computationational power. They pulled close to fifty independent

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<v Speaker 2>forecasts from specialized research groups all over the.

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<v Speaker 1>Globe fifty wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And they ran all of this historical data through

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<v Speaker 2>highly complex dynamo simulations, statistical models, advanced machine learning systems,

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<v Speaker 2>the works, and they used various precursor methods that had,

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<v Speaker 2>to their credit, worked reasonably well over the past few cycles.

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<v Speaker 2>They were looking at the Sun's polar magnetic fields, they

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<v Speaker 2>were looking at plasma flows. They were crunching decades of telemetry.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have all the dating in the world, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They synthesized all of this vast disparate data to arrive

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<v Speaker 2>at a single unified consensus number for the upcoming cycle

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the drum roll moment, with all the smartest

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<v Speaker 1>minds and the most powerful computers in the world, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the definitive number they landed on.

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<v Speaker 2>The official consensus prediction was that cycle twenty five would

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<v Speaker 2>peak at a smooth subspot number of exactly one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>And fifteen one hundred and fifteen yep, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They predicted this peak would arrive sometime around July twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. They included error bars naturally, allowing for a

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<v Speaker 2>maximum somewhere between one hundred and five and an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>upper bound of one twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so one twenty five is the absolute highest they

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<v Speaker 1>thought it could possibly go.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and the timing of the peak they said could

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<v Speaker 2>hit anywhere from November twenty twenty four to March twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, but one hundred and fifteen was the central target, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Peak of one hundred and fifteen. Now, for context, historically

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<v Speaker 1>speaking over the centuries we've been tracking, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen a frightening number or reassuring number.

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<v Speaker 2>It is incredibly reassuring. It's actually quite low. Oh really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the long term historical average for a solar cycle peak

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<v Speaker 2>is around one hundred and seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so one hundred and fifteen is well below.

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<v Speaker 2>Outage, way below. What the panel was essentially saying was

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<v Speaker 2>that cycle twenty five was going to be a near

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<v Speaker 2>twin of the cycle that preceded it. Cycle twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>was actually the weakest solar cycle in one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>It peaked at a sunspot number of just one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, let me make sure I'm following the logic here.

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<v Speaker 1>The supercomputers looked at the data and concluded the last

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<v Speaker 1>cycle was historically weak, therefore this next side will also

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<v Speaker 1>be historically weak.

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<v Speaker 2>In a nutshell, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels a bit like predicting the weather by just

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<v Speaker 1>saying tomorrow will be exactly like yesterday. Was there deeper

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<v Speaker 1>physics backing that up?

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<v Speaker 2>There was? Yeah, and it was heavily supported by the

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<v Speaker 2>literature at the time. There was a highly influential twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen paper published in Nature Communications by researchers Perniccobamic and

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<v Speaker 2>Debien du Nandi, and their dynamo based prediction fed directly

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<v Speaker 2>into the panel's consensus. Their incredibly complex models projected that

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<v Speaker 2>cycle twenty five would indeed be very weak, peaking around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, give or take.

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<v Speaker 1>A year, so they had the math to back up

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<v Speaker 1>the assumption exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So the official unified forecast delivered to the world was

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<v Speaker 2>basically expect a quiet cycle. The coast is clear. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>launching your satellites.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have all the agencies, all the supercomputers, all

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<v Speaker 1>the peer reviewed papers pointing in the exact same direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. The sun has taken a nap. And that

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<v Speaker 1>comforting picture. That sand castle we built on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually stood for a little while, didn't it. The

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the cycle looked normal.

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<v Speaker 2>It held up for about three years. The early stages

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<v Speaker 2>of a solar cycle are notoriously slow and difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>distinguish from one another, but by the time we crossed

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<v Speaker 2>into twenty twenty one and early twenty twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>the daily observations started accumulating. A creeping sense of unease

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<v Speaker 2>started washing over the space weather community.

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<v Speaker 1>The data wasn't matching the model.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It became clear that something was fundamentally off. The daily

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<v Speaker 2>sunspot counts were consistently running ahead of where the official

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<v Speaker 2>panel said they should be. It wasn't a sudden explosion.

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<v Speaker 2>It was this incredibly consistent, stubborn upward trend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like tracking a hurricane on a radar that is

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<v Speaker 1>just slightly off its predicted path, but instead of correcting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the line, it just keeps drifting further and

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<v Speaker 1>further away, growing larger than the model said was thermodynamically possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really great way to visualize it. And by

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<v Speaker 2>January twenty twenty three, the data was openly defying the models.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just a minor statistical anomaly anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It was trend, a huge one.

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<v Speaker 2>The daily sunspot counts for cycle twenty five had already

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<v Speaker 2>and scientists were sitting in their offices watching the reality

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't just divorce itself, it shattered the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>completely because fast forward to August twenty twenty four, the

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we really need to pause and recognize the

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<v Speaker 2>magnitude of that miss. That figure didn't just miss the bullseye.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't even land on the dartboard. It was off

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<v Speaker 2>point seven obliterates that. And not only was the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>So they were fundamentally wrong on the amplitude and they

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially. Yes, Mark Meisch, the solar cycle lead at the SWPC,

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<v Speaker 1>Ouch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had to be unusually blunt. He told the

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<v Speaker 2>people who rely on these forecasts to plan their multi

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar operations for years ahead. The grid managers, the

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<v Speaker 2>satellite operators, the global airlines. He told them the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forecast was officially no longer reliable. The new reality

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<v Speaker 2>called for a much quicker rise to a significantly higher peak.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's where I have to step in and push

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<v Speaker 1>back on behalf of everyone listening, because I'm putting myself

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<v Speaker 1>in the shoes of a logistics manager or a satellite engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the most advanced supercomputers on the planet. We

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<v Speaker 1>have generations of astrophysics data. We have machine learning algorithms

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<v Speaker 1>that can be grand masters at chess. How on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>you miss a target by forty percent? Is our data

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<v Speaker 1>just terrible or is the actual math governing the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentally broken?

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<v Speaker 2>That is the exact agonizing question that the entire field

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<v Speaker 2>of solar physics was forced to ask themselves in the

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<v Speaker 2>wake of this failure. Everyone knew the models had failed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the data was undeniable, right, The terrifying question

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<v Speaker 2>was why. For forty years, the prevailing belief, the paradigm

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire field, was that the solar dynamo, the

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<v Speaker 2>internal engine of the Sun, was something you could, in

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<v Speaker 2>principle model completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a math problem to solve exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The assumption was simply a matter of scale. If you

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<v Speaker 2>just got better data, higher resolution telescopes, and faster computers,

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<v Speaker 2>you could eventually predict cycle by cycle with perfect accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>But they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, missing a target by forty percent after throwing

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<v Speaker 2>everything you have at it forces you to ask if

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of prediction is even physically possible, and to

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<v Speaker 2>answer your question about whether the math is broken. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't just look at the sun spots on the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to crack open the Sun itself. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to look at its internal engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Take us under the hood, what is

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<v Speaker 1>actually driving this machine?

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<v Speaker 2>To understand the engine, we have to look underneath the

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<v Speaker 2>visible surface of the Sun into a region that makes

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<v Speaker 2>up roughly the outer thirty percent of the star.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the outer thirty percent, right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the convection zone. It is an incredibly violent

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<v Speaker 2>churning layer of hot ionized gas or plasma. You have

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<v Speaker 2>vast currents of this material constantly boiling up from the

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<v Speaker 2>interior and sinking back down. Now, the Sun spins on

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<v Speaker 2>its axis, just like the Earth does. But here is

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<v Speaker 2>the critical difference that drives the entire system. The Sun

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<v Speaker 2>does not spin as a solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Object, right, because it's not a rigid billiard ball. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a massive fluid ball of gas and plasma.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely because it's fluid, the equator of the Sun actually

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<v Speaker 2>rotates significantly faster than the poles do.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, really, the middle spins faster than the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it takes the equator about twenty five days to

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<v Speaker 2>complete one rotation, but it takes the poles more than

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, the deep interior of the Sun rotates at a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different, more uniform speed than the exterior convection zone.

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<v Speaker 2>This massive disparity in speeds is called differential rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you have different latitudes and different depths of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, all spinning at different speeds, constantly slipping and

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<v Speaker 1>grinding past each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the friction from that slipping is what generates

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<v Speaker 2>the danger. Because this plasma isn't just normal gas, it

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<v Speaker 2>is highly magnetized. This shearing motion literally grabs the magnetic

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<v Speaker 2>field lines inside the star and drags.

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<v Speaker 1>Them like physical strings being pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly at the start of a quiet period, the magnetic

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<v Speaker 2>field starts off in a relatively simple north south alignment,

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<v Speaker 2>pointing from pole to pole, much like Earth's magnetic field.

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<v Speaker 2>Physicists call this the poloidal field. The boidal got it,

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<v Speaker 2>But that differential rotation, that constant unequal shearing takes those

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<v Speaker 2>neat north south lines and begins to stretch them, wrap them,

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<v Speaker 2>amplify them, and twist them into dense east west loops

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<v Speaker 2>that wrap tightly around the Sun's equator. This twisted, compressed

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<v Speaker 2>east west field is called the toroidal field.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this analogy from some of the foundational research.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like taking a giant spinning ball and wrapping massive

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<v Speaker 1>rubber bands around it from pole to pole. Ye, But

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<v Speaker 1>because the middle of the ball is spinning faster than

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<v Speaker 1>the top and bottom, the rubber bands get dragged sideways.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep spinning the ball, and the rubber bands get

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<v Speaker 1>tighter and tighter and more twisted upon themselves, until the

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<v Speaker 1>tension is so immense that eventually they have to snap outward.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly what happens. And when those incredibly tense

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<v Speaker 2>magnetic rubber bands snap, they don't just disappear. They push

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<v Speaker 2>violently outward through the surface of the Sun. Those twisted

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<v Speaker 2>loops of concentrated magnetic energy rising through the photosphere. That

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<v Speaker 2>is what a sunspot actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't just random dark blotches on a telescope lens.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the visible physical signatures of massive magnetic flux

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<v Speaker 2>tubes breaking through the surface. And crucially, because they are

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<v Speaker 2>loops of a continuous field breaking the surface and returning

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<v Speaker 2>back down, they tend to appear in tilted pairs, with

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<v Speaker 2>a leading spot and a following spot of opposite magnetic polarity.

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<v Speaker 1>So a sunspot is literally the Sun's internal magnetic rubber

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<v Speaker 1>band snapping under immense tension and bursting out into space.

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<v Speaker 1>That is terrifying and totally awesome to visualize. But how

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<v Speaker 1>does that mechanism lead to a predictive model. If things

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<v Speaker 1>are just snapping randomly, where does the pattern come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does the positive feedback loop that scientists tried to

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<v Speaker 1>track come in?

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<v Speaker 2>This brings us to a massive theoretical breakthrough from the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixties, discovered by physicists Horace Babcock and Robert Lieton.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what did they find?

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<v Speaker 2>They finally figured out how the solar cycle regenerates itself,

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<v Speaker 2>how the machine resets. When those tilted sunspot pairs eventually

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<v Speaker 2>decay and fade away, they do so asymmetrically. That asymmetry

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<v Speaker 2>leaves behind a small residual magnetic field on the surface, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving a footprint behind in the mud. After the storm.

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<v Speaker 2>Passes exactly and over the course of an eleven year

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<v Speaker 2>cycle across thousands and thousands of sunspot groups emerging and decaying,

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<v Speaker 2>those residual magnetic footprints begin to add up. But they

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<v Speaker 2>don't stay at the equator. Inside the sun, there are

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<v Speaker 2>very slow moving deep plasma flows called the meridunal circulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like a giant planetary scale conveyor belt.

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<v Speaker 1>A conveyor belt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this conveyor belt slowly carries those leftover magnetic footprints

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<v Speaker 2>from the equator all the way back up toward the poles,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they accumulate at the poles over years, they

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<v Speaker 2>actually cancel out the old polar field and build up

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<v Speaker 2>the new poloidal field. The north south field, which.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm following the physics, becomes the fresh north south

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<v Speaker 1>rubber band, the seed for the next cycle to start

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<v Speaker 1>twisting all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you've got it. This entire mechanism is known as

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<v Speaker 2>the Babcock Laton process. It is a massive positive feedback

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<v Speaker 2>loop with a built in delay. Each cycle literally plants

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<v Speaker 2>the magnetic.

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<v Speaker 3>Seed for the next Oh, that's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>And the lag time, the years it takes between the

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<v Speaker 2>sowing of that seed at the poles and the harvest

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<v Speaker 2>of the next cycle sunspots, is what gave forecasters their hope.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave them a seemingly reliable precursor. The logic they

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<v Speaker 2>built their supercomputer models on was simple. If you measure

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<v Speaker 2>the polar magnetic field at the very end of a cycle,

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<v Speaker 2>and that field is weak, then the seed for the

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<v Speaker 2>next cycle is weak. Therefore the next cycle must be weak.

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<v Speaker 1>And the polar field at the end of cycle twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>right before cycle twenty five began, was.

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<v Speaker 2>Weak, It was historically weak. That single overarching observation is

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<v Speaker 2>what drove almost all of the twenty nineteen panel's confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in forecasting a quiet cycle twenty five. The seed was small,

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<v Speaker 2>so the tree had to be small, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Then cycle twenty five ran forty percent stronger. So if

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<v Speaker 1>the seed was weak, how did the plant grow so massive.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Babcock Layton theory is right, a weak seed

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be able to produce a monster cycle. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>theory wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>The theory isn't completely wrong, but it is missing something

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<v Speaker 2>massive which the intrinsic inescapable noise of the system. To

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<v Speaker 2>understand this, we have to look at the findings from

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<v Speaker 2>Pargov Karak's twenty twenty six review on the solar dynamo

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Mische's twenty twenty five review in the journal

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<v Speaker 2>Space Weather. What the field of astrophysics is now reluctantly

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<v Speaker 2>painfully accepting is that the solar dynamo has chaos, pure

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<v Speaker 2>unmeasurable stochastic noise build right into its very foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of noise we're talking about, like, what specific

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<v Speaker 1>variables are they missing that are throwing the models off

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<v Speaker 1>by forty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the micro details that cascade into macro effects. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>the tilt angles of individual sunspot pairs, the footplents you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned exactly. The Babcock latent process assumes an average tilt,

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<v Speaker 2>but in reality that tilt varies wildly from group to

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<v Speaker 2>group as they bubble up through the turbulent plasma. The

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<v Speaker 2>exact latitude where a specific flux tube decides to emerge

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<v Speaker 2>matters immensely to how its residual field is carried away.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it hits the conveyor belt at a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Spot precisely, and that giant conveyor belt the meridional circulation

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the plasma to the poles. It isn't a constant

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<v Speaker 2>smooth machine. Carrick's review points out that these deep plasma

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<v Speaker 2>flows drift, they speed up, they slow down, they dip

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<v Speaker 2>into deeper convection zones where our instruments absolutely cannot see them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they surface again, completely altering the timing and

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm trying to predict this, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>calculate the exact output of an engine where the gels

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<v Speaker 1>are constantly changing size, changing speed, and physically moving around

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<v Speaker 1>inside the casing while the machine is running a full throttle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's an impossible math problem, and Mark Misha's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five review takes it a step further to a

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<v Speaker 2>deeply unsettling conclusion for anyone who likes certainty. He argues

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<v Speaker 2>that this noise isn't just a missing variable that we

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<v Speaker 2>can eventually measure if we just build a better satellite

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<v Speaker 2>or a faster computer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>The intrinsic randomness, the fluid turbulence, and the stochastic scatter,

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<v Speaker 2>and how these flux tubes interact sets a permanent physical

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling on prediction accuracy. His estimate, based on analyzing forty

435
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<v Speaker 2>five years of continuous data, is that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>permanent ten to twenty percent aerfloor built into solar forecasting.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot get past it, ever, because that ara floor

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<v Speaker 2>is just the Sun being the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So to synthesize this chaos for everyone listening, what

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<v Speaker 1>the experts are finally admitting is that the Sun operates

441
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<v Speaker 1>less like a predictable clock and much more like a

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane season on Earth. We know fundamentally that we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get storms in August and September, but trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pinpoint exactly when a specific hurricane will form and

445
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<v Speaker 1>exactly what category will be three years in advance is

446
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<v Speaker 1>basically impossible because of the sheer internal noise of the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect analogy.

448
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<v Speaker 1>The underlying physics of the Sun is deterministic short, but

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<v Speaker 1>the chaotic nonlinear couplings just completely outrun the initial memory

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<v Speaker 1>of the system.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, the exact paradigm shift much concluded was necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like trying to predict the exact swirl of cream

453
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<v Speaker 2>and a cup of coffee. It's fluid mixing. Past a

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<v Speaker 2>certain time horizon, the forecast just stop being mathematically meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sun forgets its own history too quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But here's where this story gets absolutely fascinating, because

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<v Speaker 1>while the official agencies with all the funding, were hitting

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<v Speaker 1>this wall of intrinsic solo noise and essentially throwing their

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<v Speaker 1>hands up, there was a small group of rogue scientists

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<v Speaker 1>who are looking at a completely different set of signals.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is my favorite part.

462
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<v Speaker 1>And they nailed the cycle twenty five forecast almost perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>They did. While the official forecasters were learning their limits

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<v Speaker 2>the hard way, these outliers were quietly building a completely

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<v Speaker 2>different paradigm. We're talking specifically about Scott McIntosh, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the deputy director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research

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<v Speaker 2>for two decades, and Robert Lehman, a brilliant research scientist

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<v Speaker 2>working with NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were they doing differently? If everyone else is

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<v Speaker 1>staring at the polar magnetic field and the big sun spots,

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<v Speaker 1>what were Macintosh and Leman looking at To get it right?

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<v Speaker 2>They completely ignored the polar field. They threw it out,

473
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<v Speaker 2>just tossed it Yep. They weren't using the standard dynamo

474
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<v Speaker 2>simulations that the twenty nineteen panel relied on. Instead, they

475
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<v Speaker 2>were quietly cataloging something in the Sun's extreme ultraviolet imagery

476
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<v Speaker 2>that most of their colleagues had completely dismissed as unimportant

477
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<v Speaker 2>background noise. They were tracking what they called bright points.

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<v Speaker 1>Bright points. What exactly are those? Are they just tiny sunspots?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they are fundamentally different. They are exactly what they

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<v Speaker 2>sound like, small intensely glowing patches of extreme ultraviolet light

481
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<v Speaker 2>that flare up briefly in the corona, the Sun's outer atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>They might last for a few hours or maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>few days, and then they vanish.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're insignificant on their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Individually, they are not impressive at all. They don't cause

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<v Speaker 2>geomagnetic storms. There are millions of them scattered like little

487
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<v Speaker 2>bright sparks across the surface during a given solar cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but why focus on the tiny, harmless sparks when

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the scientific community is correctly looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the massive fires the sunspots that actually cause the damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Macintosh and Lemon noticed something profound in the data.

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<v Speaker 2>When you zoom out and look at the entire population

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<v Speaker 2>of bright points together over decades, they do not behave randomly.

494
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<v Speaker 2>They form incredibly distinct organized patterns like what Clusters of

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<v Speaker 2>these bright points emerge amid latitudes early in a cycle,

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<v Speaker 2>and then over the next two decades they marched steadily,

497
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<v Speaker 2>inevitably toward the Sun's equator.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds almost like they are floating on a current,

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<v Speaker 1>as if they're being carried by something massive underneath the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>That was their exact hypothesis. The team argued that these

501
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<v Speaker 2>bright points were simply the visible traces the exhaust fumes

502
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<v Speaker 2>of massive bands of magnetic fields moving deep within the

503
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<v Speaker 2>convection zone, and they noticed that these underlying magnetic bands

504
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<v Speaker 2>drift from the poles to the equator on our roughly

505
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<v Speaker 2>twenty two year clock, not an eleven year clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait twenty two years. We always hear about the eleven

507
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<v Speaker 1>year solar cycle. Where does twenty two years.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Come from This brings us to a foundational concept known

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<v Speaker 2>as the Hail cycle, discovered way back in nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 2>eight by the astronomer George ellery Hale. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>first person to realize that sunspots contained powerful magnetic fields,

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<v Speaker 2>and he discovered that the magnetic polarities of sunspots actually

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<v Speaker 2>flip from one eleven year.

514
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<v Speaker 3>Cycle to the next, a magnetic flip.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So if the leading sunspots in the northern hemisphere

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<v Speaker 2>are positively charged in cycle twenty four, they will be

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<v Speaker 2>negatively charged in cycle twenty five. Therefore, it actually takes

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<v Speaker 2>two full eleven year cycles, two complete magnetic flicks, to

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<v Speaker 2>make one complete returning magnetic period.

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<v Speaker 1>So eleven times two is twenty two exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Macintosh and Leemann propose that each eleven year sunspot cycle

522
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<v Speaker 2>that we see is really just half of this longer,

523
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<v Speaker 2>much more fundamental, twenty two year magnetic cycle playing out

524
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<v Speaker 2>beneath the surface, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The timeline there is critical. If a band takes twenty

526
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<v Speaker 1>two years to march to the equator, but a sunspot

527
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<v Speaker 1>cycle only lasts eleven years, that means they must overlap

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<v Speaker 1>at any given time. There isn't just one cycle happening

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the crucial paradigm shifting inside of their work.

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<v Speaker 2>The magnetic bands from the previous cycle are still active

532
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<v Speaker 2>and moving under beneath the surface at the exact same

533
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<v Speaker 2>time that the bands for the current cycle are forming

534
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<v Speaker 2>and moving. You have two sets of massive magnetic bands

535
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<v Speaker 2>interacting deep beneath the surface of the star.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Two active cycles at once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sometimes they reinforce each other, and sometimes they interfere

538
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<v Speaker 2>with each other, constantly dampening the Sun's ability to produce sunspots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly like ocean waves overlapping. If the peaks of

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<v Speaker 1>two waves align, you get a massive rogue wave. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the peak of one wave meets the trough of another,

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<v Speaker 1>they cancel each other out entirely and the water stays flat.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a brilliant way to visualize magnetic interference, and

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<v Speaker 2>this brings us to the dramatic climax of their theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Every couple of decades, something spectacular happens. The old interfering

546
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<v Speaker 2>magnetic bands from the northern and southern hemispheres, carrying opposite

547
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<v Speaker 2>magnetic polarities finally meet at the Sun's equator. And when

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<v Speaker 2>opposite magnetic fields meet, they don't just bounce off each other,

549
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<v Speaker 2>they annihilate each other in a massive flash.

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<v Speaker 1>And Macintosh and Lehman called this moment the terminator event.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the terminator. When those old bands annihilate each other

552
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<v Speaker 2>at the equator, all the bright points connected to that

553
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<v Speaker 2>old cycle vanish entirely, sometimes within a matter of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>The terminator event is the exact moment the old magnetic

555
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<v Speaker 2>cycle truly dies. And because that old interfering cycle is

556
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<v Speaker 2>suddenly gone, the new cycle is released from its magnetic chains.

557
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<v Speaker 2>It can finally explode into action without any magnetic interference

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<v Speaker 2>holding it back.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a vivid, almost cinematic picture of astrophysics.

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<v Speaker 1>Two slow motion magnetic ropes wrapping around a start drifting

561
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<v Speaker 1>toward each other for twenty years, and then they finally

562
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<v Speaker 1>touch the equator and just vanish, releasing a tidal wave

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<v Speaker 1>of new energy. So when did the last terminator event happen?

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<v Speaker 2>The most recent terminator event happen in December twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Macintosh and Lemon had been obsessively watching the bright points

566
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<v Speaker 2>tracking their march to the equator, and they knew it

567
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<v Speaker 2>was coming and when it finally arrived in December twenty

568
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<v Speaker 2>twenty one. They use the exact spacing the precise amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time between that terminator event and the previous one

570
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<v Speaker 2>as their main mathematical input to make a rival prediction

571
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<v Speaker 2>for cycle twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was their number? Remember the official supercomputer panel

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<v Speaker 1>said one fifteen? What did the terminator model say?

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<v Speaker 2>Using the terminator method, they predicted that cycle twenty five

575
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<v Speaker 2>would peak at a massive sunspot number close to one

576
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<v Speaker 2>eighty four, and they said it would arrive early sometime

577
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<v Speaker 2>around early twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, so let's put those numbers side by side

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<v Speaker 1>so the listener can really feel the gap. Here, the

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<v Speaker 1>official twenty nineteen consensus panel, using all the billion dollars

581
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<v Speaker 1>supercomputers fifty models in polar field data, predicted a weak

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<v Speaker 1>peak of one hundred and fifteen in mid twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Macintosh and Lehman, two guys using the rogue terminator method

584
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<v Speaker 1>and tracking bright points, predicted a massive one eighty four

585
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<v Speaker 1>in early twenty twenty four, and reality delivered a peak

586
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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and fifty six point seven in August

587
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. They were incredibly close They completely left

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen panel in the dust. They caught the

589
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<v Speaker 1>early timing, and they caught the massive amplitude trend.

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<v Speaker 2>They really did. It was a stunning vindication of the

591
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<v Speaker 2>robservational method and a massive shop to the traditional model

592
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<v Speaker 2>in community.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but hold on. Here is where I have to

594
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<v Speaker 1>play the skeptic, because this is almost too neat. A

595
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<v Speaker 1>couple of rogue scientists looking at bright spots beat the

596
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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar supercomputers. That sounds like a Hollywood script, which

597
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>usually means it's too good to be true. Did they

598
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<v Speaker 1>just get mathematically lucky? I mean, why hasn't NOAA completely

599
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 1>adopted this terminator model if it works so well. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the scientific establishment just being stubborn and protective of their

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<v Speaker 1>old models, or is there a genuine hard science flaw

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<v Speaker 1>in relying on these bright points.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an excellent question, and it's a bit of both. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a massive paradigm clash in astrophysics right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty nineteen panel forecasters didn't just concede, defeat, throw

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<v Speaker 2>out their life's work and adopt the terminator model. Debiando Nandi,

607
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<v Speaker 2>the astrophysicist whose dynamo work fed heavily into that failed

608
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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen prediction. Has been highly publicly skeptical of the

609
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<v Speaker 2>terminator theory, so he's pushing back hard. He simply does

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<v Speaker 2>not accept the underlying physics of it. He argues that

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<v Speaker 2>the timing between these terminator events cannot mathematically causally predict

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of the next cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>So he thinks they just got lucky with the data

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<v Speaker 1>points they chose.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, yes, he argues it's an empirical correlation, not a

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<v Speaker 2>physical causation, though he does concede importantly that the bright

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<v Speaker 2>points are signaling something real about the underlying magnetic field

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<v Speaker 2>that the standard Babcock Late and models are entirely missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's a piece of the puzzle.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But NAA has not folded the terminator method into

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<v Speaker 2>operational forecasting. They are incredibly hesitant to base global infrastructure

622
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<v Speaker 2>warnings on a model that lacks a fully fleshed out

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<v Speaker 2>interior mathematical dynamo simulation to back it up. When asked

624
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<v Speaker 2>about it, Macintosh basically said he expects the agencies to

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<v Speaker 2>just stubbornly stick to their existing approaches because it's what

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<v Speaker 2>they know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the implications of this debate are wild. If the

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<v Speaker 1>official models are looking at the polar field on the

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<v Speaker 1>surface and the terminator method is looking at overlapping bands

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<v Speaker 1>of magnetic cycles deep beneath the surface, does that mean

631
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<v Speaker 1>the Sun is literally doing two completely different things at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the exact mind bending conclusion that the field

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<v Speaker 2>is moving toward the Sun may be operating on multiple

635
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<v Speaker 2>interacting layers, And for forty years we have only been

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<v Speaker 2>watching the top layer. Our picture of the Sun has

637
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<v Speaker 2>been fundamentally incomplete. We've been trying to predict the ocean's

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<v Speaker 2>currents by only looking at the foam on the waves.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have this massive debate over which mathematical model

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<v Speaker 1>is right. But let's bring this back down to earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does this debate actually matter to you and me?

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<v Speaker 1>Why should the average person care about bright points and

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic bands? Well, because this isn't just an academic astrophysics

644
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>debate happening in a university hallway. When the official forecast fails,

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<v Speaker 1>the modern technological infrastructure we literally rely on to run

646
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<v Speaker 1>our society falls out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not an exaggeration. The gap between what the

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<v Speaker 2>scientists can safely predict and What the chaotic Sun is

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing is incredibly dangerous, and the severe it can

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<v Speaker 2>and structural consequences of getting it wrong have already started arriving.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the invisible threat to lower th orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring us to April twenty five, twenty twenty four, because

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<v Speaker 1>this crisis didn't start with a massive cinematic explosion that

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<v Speaker 1>started really quietly.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't it very quietly? It was an ordinary week in

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<v Speaker 2>space operations. Around April twenty five, telemetry data showed that

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<v Speaker 2>twelve Starlink satellites and lower th orbit suddenly started losing altitude.

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<v Speaker 2>They were dropping faster than their orbital mechanics and standard

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<v Speaker 2>drag calculations said they should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there flares happening.

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<v Speaker 2>No. At the time, there was no major headline grabbing

662
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>geomagnetic storm in progress. The Sun was throwing off some

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<v Speaker 2>moderate flares, but nothing out of the ordinary for an

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<v Speaker 2>active cycle. But the upper atmosphere was already secretly responding

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<v Speaker 2>to the increased ultraviolet output of the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need to stop you here because I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have the same misconception I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Space is a vacuum, right, There is no air, So

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<v Speaker 1>if the Sun releases a solar flare. How does that

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<v Speaker 1>physically cause a satellite to fall. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>light can push a five hundred pounds satellite out of orbit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way that makes sense is if the Earth's

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere is actually expanding upward into space to grab it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly what is happening, and the mechanism is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Space is a vacuum, yes, but low Earth orbit, where

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<v Speaker 2>Starlink and many other constellations operate, is not a perfect vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a very very thin, highly tenuous layer of

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<v Speaker 2>gas there called.

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<v Speaker 1>The thermae thermosphere. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>When the Sun emits elevated extreme ultraviolet radiation, or when

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of a geomagnetic storm hits our magnetic field,

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<v Speaker 2>massive electrical currents are induced and flow down into the

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<v Speaker 2>upper atmosphere. This dumps a staggering amount of electrical energy

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<v Speaker 2>into the sparse oxygen and nitrogen molecules up there. This

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<v Speaker 2>process is called jewel heating.

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel heating, Okay, So we are dumping electricity into gas, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like a toaster wire heating.

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<v Speaker 2>Up exactly the electrical resistance of the gas causes it

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<v Speaker 2>to heat up rapidly, and basic thermodynamics tells us that

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<v Speaker 2>when you heat agains, it expands. The entire thermosphere begins

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<v Speaker 2>to expand outward, inflating like a giant balloon over a

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<v Speaker 2>hot stove.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>It pushes denser air from lower down up to much

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<v Speaker 2>higher altitudes. So a Starling satellite that is gliding along

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<v Speaker 2>effortlessly at seventeen thousand miles an hour through what it

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<v Speaker 2>thinks is a near vacuum suddenly unexpectedly hits a wall

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<v Speaker 2>of much thicker, denser gas. Drag, which was previously negligible,

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly becomes a massive physical force that the satellite has

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<v Speaker 2>to fight against or else it loses velocity and falls.

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<v Speaker 1>And these twelve Starling satellites were feeling that exact drag

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<v Speaker 1>in April. There's this one specific example from the tracking

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<v Speaker 1>data that highlights how fast this happens, Starling twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>oh one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, according to vital tracking work led by researcher Denny

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<v Speaker 2>olivera Starling twenty six oh one fell from a safe

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<v Speaker 2>altitude of two hundred and seventy six kilometers down to

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<v Speaker 2>a completely doomed altitude of just one hundred kilometers in

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<v Speaker 2>under two days.

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<v Speaker 1>In two days, its.

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<v Speaker 2>Fiery re entry into the atmosphere happened eleven days earlier

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<v Speaker 2>than the operator operational models had predicted eleven days.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were a satellite operator, eleven days is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute eternity. You need pinpoint precision to plan collision avoidance

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<v Speaker 1>maneuvers with other satellites and to schedule controlled the orbits

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<v Speaker 1>so de breed doesn't hit populated areas. If you lose

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<v Speaker 1>eleven days of forecasting because the sun breathed on the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>you are essentially flying blind at hypersonic speeds. And the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy thing is this wasn't an isolated incident, right We

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<v Speaker 1>actually had a massive warning about this specific vulnerability back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two that we mostly ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>We did. We had a very expensive dress rehearsal. In

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<v Speaker 2>February twenty twenty two, SpaceX launched a batch of forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine Starlink satellites. They launched them during what forecasters thought

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<v Speaker 2>was a relatively minor moderate geomagnetic storm and a moderate

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<v Speaker 2>storm right now. Because Starlink uses a deliberately low staging altitude.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea is that if a satellite is a dut

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<v Speaker 2>upon deployment, it burns up quickly rather than becoming dangerous

730
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.599
<v Speaker 2>space drunk for decades. They are incredibly acutely vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 2>any in thermospheric expansion. Because of that moderate storm, the

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<v Speaker 2>jewel heating was so intense and the atmospheric drag increased

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<v Speaker 2>so sharply that thirty eight of those forty nine brand

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<v Speaker 2>new satellites never reached their final orbit. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the thrusters couldn't overcome the friction. They were dragged backward

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<v Speaker 2>into the denser atmosphere and burned up in a streak

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<v Speaker 2>of fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Research by space weather expert Thomas Berger documented the entire fiasco.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fifty million dollar hardware loss in a

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<v Speaker 1>single event caused by a moderate storm, and the overarching

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<v Speaker 1>scale of this atmospheric drag is staggering. The sources note

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<v Speaker 1>that between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four and nearly

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred satellites re entered from very low Earth orbit,

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<v Speaker 1>and nearly half of them were starlinks. The orbital infrastructure

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00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 1>we are building is acutely physically vulnerable to the Sun,

746
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<v Speaker 1>and that was all before the real monster arrived. The

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<v Speaker 1>April orbital decay was just the appetizer exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The April twenty twenty four drag was just the thermosphere

749
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 2>warming up its muscles. Two weeks later, the main event

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<v Speaker 2>hit the planet May eighth, twenty twenty four. The Gannon Storm,

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<v Speaker 2>yes highly complex magnetically tangled sun spot region designated by

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<v Speaker 2>NAA as Region one three sixty sixty four, rotated into

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<v Speaker 2>view across the face of the Sun. It looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a bruised, angry nod of magnetic tension, and it began

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00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 2>firing off massive X class flares and rapid succession. Within

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<v Speaker 2>just nine days, the sunspat region grew so aggressively that

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<v Speaker 2>it covered fourteen times the surface area of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen times the Earth unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an absolute monster, and it didn't just flashlight

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00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>at us. It launched several massive coronal mass ejections or CMEs,

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<v Speaker 2>directly at Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>A CME is when the Sun literally vomits a billion

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<v Speaker 1>tons of plasma and embedded magnetic field out into the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar system right and these specific CMEs, they didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>follow each other nicely in a line, they merged.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a terrifying phenomenon in space weather called a

767
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>cannibal CME.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannibal CME.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when the Sun fires off a slow CME and

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<v Speaker 2>then a day later fires off a much faster one

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. The faster one catches up through the physics

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<v Speaker 2>of magnetic reconnection, where the magnetic fields of the two

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<v Speaker 2>a few plasmic clouds crash into each other and reconfigure.

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<v Speaker 2>The faster CME literally swallows the slower one up. They

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<v Speaker 2>merge into a single monstrous wave of dense plasma and

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<v Speaker 2>compressed magnetic field. The combined force of this cannibal cloud

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00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 2>hits Earth significantly harder than any individual eruption would. This

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<v Speaker 2>specific cannibal CME from Region one three six sixty four

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<v Speaker 2>slammed into Earth's magnetosphere at well over one thousand kilometers

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<v Speaker 2>per second.

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<v Speaker 1>Over one thousand kilometers a second. Just trying to fathom

782
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<v Speaker 1>that speed is dizzying. And the result of that impact

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<v Speaker 1>was a G five storm.

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<v Speaker 2>A G five that is the absolute highest rung on

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<v Speaker 2>the geomagnetic storm scale. It was the first event of

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<v Speaker 2>that extreme severity to hit Earth since the infamous Halloween

787
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<v Speaker 2>storms of October two thousand and three. The scientific community

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<v Speaker 2>unofficially named it the Gannon Storm, honoring Jennifer Lee Gannon,

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00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant space weather physicist who had tragically passed away

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<v Speaker 2>just days earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>What a beautiful and haunting tribute to her work. And visually,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of us on the ground, this storm was undeniable, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean paid the picture for us. This wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a squiggly line reading on a dial in the laboratory.

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00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>The visual payoff of that energy dumping into our atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>was extraordinary. Auroras were visible in places where they hadn't

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00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 2>been seen for generations, in some cases since the eighteen

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00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine Carrington event. They lit up the night sky

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<v Speaker 2>over central Mexico. They were seen in Florida, South Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Italy, Spain, Japan. People stepping out onto their porches

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00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>in Florida were watching the northern horizon turn a deep

802
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>blood red. It became one of the most extensively documented

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<v Speaker 2>auroral events in human history, purely because suddenly billions of

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00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 2>citizen scientists had high definition smartphone cameras in their pockets,

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00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>capturing the sky on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But the breathtaking beauty in the sky completely masked the

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00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>chaos that was unfolding on the ground. Because this storm

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just affect low Earth orbit or make pretty lights,

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<v Speaker 1>It physically slammed into our terrestrial infrastructure. Let's look at agriculture.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly happened to the American Midwest.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a prime example of how deeply interconnected and

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<v Speaker 2>fragile our modern technology really is. Modern agriculture isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>a farmer with a plow anymore. It relies heavily on

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<v Speaker 2>precision GPS to guide massive tractors for planting seeds with

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<v Speaker 2>centimeter level accuracy to maximize yield. But during a severe

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<v Speaker 2>geomagnetic storm, the ionosphere, the charged layer of our upper atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>becomes severely disturbed. It becomes turbulent. It acts like a

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<v Speaker 2>funhouse mirror for the radio frequencies coming down from the

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<v Speaker 2>GPS satellites, refracting and smearing the timing of the signals.

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<v Speaker 2>This is known as ionospheric scintillation.

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<v Speaker 1>And GPS relies entirely on nanosecond precision. Right. It calculates

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<v Speaker 1>your position by measuring exactly how long a radio wave

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<v Speaker 1>takes to reach.

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<v Speaker 2>You from space, exactly if the ionosphere bends that radio

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<v Speaker 2>wave or delays it by even a fraction of a microsecond,

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<v Speaker 2>the math breaks down entirely. During the gannonstorm, GPS guide

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<v Speaker 2>detractors planting corn and soybeans in the Midwest suddenly began

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<v Speaker 2>veering wildly off course. The navigation systems were utterly confused.

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<v Speaker 2>A fascinating twenty twenty five step by researcher Yudin Yang

830
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<v Speaker 2>tracked global outages of fifteen to twenty hours in precise

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<v Speaker 2>positioning solutions. Twenty hours without GPS, farmers were forced to

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<v Speaker 2>completely abandon their fields in the middle of an already

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00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>weather delayed planting season because their tractors literally didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>where they were. Russian stations in North America lost positioning

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<v Speaker 2>data for fifteen hours, stations in Australia lost it for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty hours. Global agriculture just ground to a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>So we understand the sky's expanding and the ionosphere is

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<v Speaker 1>grambling radio signals, But what about the physical grid on

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00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the ground. How does a magnetic disturbance in space physically

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00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>reach down and break a piece of heavy metal on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the most dangerous part of a G five storm.

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<v Speaker 2>The massive fluctuating magnetic disturbance in the atmosphere induces enormous

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<v Speaker 2>electrical currents in the physical ground beneath our feet. These

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00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 2>are called geomagnetically induced currents or GICs. Now, the earth

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<v Speaker 2>itself has resistance, so these massive ground currents seek out

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<v Speaker 2>the path of lease resistance to travel, which happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be our long continuous high voltage.

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<v Speaker 3>Transmission line power grid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right at the Halfway Bush substation near Dunad in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 2>these rogue direct currents flooded up from the ground and

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<v Speaker 2>into the alternating current grid. They pushed the massive iron

853
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<v Speaker 2>cores of the high voltage transformers into a state that

854
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>electrical engineers call half cycle saturation.

855
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Half cycle saturation. Yeah, that sounds like engine failure on

856
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 1>a starship. Help me visualize this. Imagine the power grid

857
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is a giant water pumping system moving water back and forth.

858
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>What does half cycle saturation actually due to the pump?

859
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Is it like the water violently slashing backward instead of

860
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>flowing smoothly.

861
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a fantastic analogy. A transformer relies on smooth alternating

862
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 2>magnetic flups to transfer alternating current the water smoothly slashing

863
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>back and forth. But when this massive direct current from

864
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the spacetorm floods in it acts like a physical block,

865
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>pushing the pump entirely to one side. The iron core

866
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>literally cannot hold any more magnetic flux in that direction

867
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 2>it is saturated, So for half of the alternating cycle,

868
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the transformer stops behaving like a clean, efficient pump. Instead,

869
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the water violently slams into a wall. The transformer starts

870
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 2>drawing massive amounts of what's called reactive power from the grid,

871
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>creating huge thermal spikes, literally melting the internal insulation and

872
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>sending chaotic harmonic distortions or pressure waves rippling back through

873
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the network.

874
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So the transformer is basically choking, velting and sending shockwaves

875
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>through the rest of the grid precisely.

876
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Mark Cloverd and his team measured this specific incident in

877
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, and their conclusions were chilling. They found that

878
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>if an event on the scale of the eighteen fifty

879
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>nine Carrington event hit today, New Zealand would instantly need

880
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:47.199
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of additional megavolt ampers of generation just to feed

881
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 2>that reactive power demand and keep the grid from collapsing

882
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 2>entirely in a cascade failure. And New Zealand wasn't alone

883
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 2>high voltage lines tripped offline in the US to protect themselves,

884
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and power grids in Uruguay, which happen to sit under

885
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>a particularly weak point in Earth's magnetic shield known as

886
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the South Atlantic Anomaly, were found to be severely vulnerable.

887
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>We built our entire modern glasshouse, the mega constellations of

888
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>low Earth orbit satellites, the precision GPS farming that feeds

889
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the world, the global smartphone supply chains that rely on

890
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 1>centimeter accurate timing. We built all of this intricate, delicate

891
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure during a historical periods when the sun wasn't throwing

892
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>heavy stones.

893
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 2>We got complacent.

894
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 1>The twenty nineteen official forecast essentially gave us the green light.

895
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.119
<v Speaker 1>It told us we were safe to keep building our glasshouse.

896
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>But now the rocks are flying.

897
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And this is the most critical point to understand about

898
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the vulnerability of our era. The gannonstorm wasn't historically extreme

899
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the grand timeline of the last

900
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>two hundred years. It was serious, yes, but not unprecedented.

901
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.079
<v Speaker 2>What made it so incredibly disruptive and costly was that

902
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>it hit a technological infrastructure that is vastly more exposed, dense,

903
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and fragile than it was even twenty one years ago

904
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 2>during the two thousand ti three Halloween storms.

905
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, the world is different now.

906
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and three, we didn't have six thousand

907
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 2>starling satellites relying on the sermosphere. We didn't have AI

908
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 2>driven agriculture relying on GPS. The target on our back

909
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>is exponentially larger now.

910
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And if you were listening to this thinking wow, the

911
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Gannon storm in May twenty twenty four was a crazy,

912
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 1>once in a lifetime grand finale to Cycle twenty five,

913
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you need to seriously brace yourself because the very latest

914
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>data says we have just entered the absolute most dangerous

915
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>phase of the cycle.

916
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>That's right, the hurricane season is not over. It is peaking.

917
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 2>In a May twenty twenty six update, and oaa's Mark

918
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Meiche confirmed that while cycle twenty five likely reached its

919
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>absolute sun spot peak in late twenty twenty four, the

920
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>active phase, the agonizing stretch where major planet rattling CMEs

921
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 2>are most likely to erupt, is dragging on far far

922
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>longer than the twenty nineteen predictions ever assumed. The Sun

923
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 2>is still firmly in its violent hurricane season, and.

924
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>We have the receipts through it. The Sun didn go

925
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>back to sleep. Let's talk about November eleven, twenty twenty five.

926
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Active Region forty two seventy four erupted with an

927
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>X five point one flare. It was the most powerful

928
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 2>flare of that entire year, triggering severe geomagnetic watch notices globally.

929
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Once again, aroars were pushed incredibly far south down into

930
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Texas and Mexico. The radio blackouts were intense. It was

931
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the strongest most disruptive event Sincecannon.

932
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And then just two months later January twenty twenty six,

933
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.159
<v Speaker 1>this is the event that sounds like it completely broke

934
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 1>the textbooks for observers.

935
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>It truly did. The Sun launched a coronal mass ejection

936
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>that crossed the one hundred and fifty million kilometers between

937
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the Sun and the Earth in just twenty five hours.

938
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Twenty five hours, I need context for that. Normally, when

939
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a CM erupts, that transit across base takes what two

940
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>or three.

941
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Full days exactly, a standard CME takes about forty eight

942
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to seventy two hours to reach Earth. To cross that

943
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>immense distance in just twenty five hours means the massive

944
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 2>plasma was moving at an absolutely terrifying speed, driven by

945
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 2>an eruption of unimaginable force, and when it finally hit

946
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the Earth's magnetic field, it produced something that most modern

947
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 2>space weather researchers had never personally witnessed, bizarre violently pulsing

948
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 2>green proton auroras.

949
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why green proton aurors? Tell me the physics there?

950
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Because normally auroras are caused by electrons, right, what is

951
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 1>the difference?

952
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Standard auroras are indeed caused when electrons from the solar

953
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>wind ride our magnetic field lines down into the atmosphere

954
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and collide with oxygen atoms, making them glow. But a

955
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>CME moving this fast, carrying this much energy actually accelerates

956
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 2>heavy protons the nuclei of hydrogen atoms to immense speeds.

957
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Protons are much heavier.

958
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>When these heavy charged protons slam into the atmosphere, they

959
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 2>penetrate much deeper than electrons can. They collide with different

960
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 2>concentrations of oxygen atoms at lower altitudes, exciting them in

961
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 2>a very specific way that emits a stark textbook defying

962
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 2>green wavelength. The textbooks have barely begun to describe the

963
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 2>complex plasma physics of these specific pulsing proton auroral patterns.

964
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 2>It was completely unprecedented. For the visual observers on the ground,

965
00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>It was like the sky was glitching.

966
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so why is this happening now? This is the

967
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>million dollar question. If the actual sunspot peak was all

968
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the way back in twenty twenty four, why are we

969
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>getting these massive, anomalist record breaking storms in twenty twenty

970
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>five and twenty twenty six.

971
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 2>We have to bring Robert Lehman back into the story here.

972
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Remember he was one of the rogue scientists looking at

973
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 2>the twenty two year Hail magnetic cycle. He points out

974
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 2>a fascinating, terrifying pattern in the historical data regarding odd

975
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>numbered cycles exactly like our current cycle twenty five.

976
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 1>What happens during an odd cycle that makes it different

977
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>from an even cycle like twenty four.

978
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>It comes back to the magnetic flip. After the Sun's

979
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.719
<v Speaker 2>magnetic field flips at the peak of the cycle, the

980
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>new dominant polarity of the solar wind in an odd

981
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>numbered cycle aligns perfectly with Earth's own magnetic field.

982
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So it's like lining up two bar magnets

983
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>where the north and south poles attract locking together instead

984
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of repelling each other.

985
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Precisely, Earth's magnetic field points north during the declining phase

986
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>of an odd cycle, the Sun's interplanetary magnetic field often

987
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 2>points south. When a southbound solar field hits our northbound field,

988
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>they magnetically link up. Because the polarities attract and a ligne,

989
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the solar wind couples far far more efficiently with our magnetosphere.

990
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It basically opens a literal door in our magnetic shield.

991
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>The energy transfer is much stronger, meaning the CMEs that

992
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 2>do hit us dump vastly more energy into our atmosphere.

993
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>And Lemon calls this specific phase the battle zone.

994
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he argues, using decades of hail cycle data that

995
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>for odd cycles, the absolute biggest, most devastating geomagnetic storms

996
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 2>don't actually happen during the maximum sunspot peak. They happen

997
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 2>after the peak, during this dangerous period of magnetic polarity

998
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 2>alignment that puts US squarely unavoidably in the battle zone

999
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 2>right now through twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and

1000
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>well into twenty twenty seven. The Gannon Storm and the

1001
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>November twenty twenty five events they weren't the grand finale

1002
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>of cycle twenty five. They were just the early arrivals.

1003
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 2>The worst may still be on its way.

1004
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 1>So I have a direct, incredibly serious question for you.

1005
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>If odd cycle perfectly aligned with Earth to cause maximum damage,

1006
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and we are currently sitting right in the middle of

1007
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 1>this battle zone, and we have exponentially more satellites in

1008
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>low Earth orbit than we did just five years ago,

1009
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 1>are we essentially playing Russian Roulette with the global Internet

1010
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and the power grid right now? Are we just pulling

1011
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the trigger and hoping the chamber is empty?

1012
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 2>The short, uncomfortable answer is yes. The immutable physical reality

1013
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.519
<v Speaker 2>of the upper atmosphere is deeply dangerously incompatible with the

1014
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>economic incentives of proliferating lower Earth orbit constellations. Right now,

1015
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 2>satellite companies are incentivized to launch as many units as

1016
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>cheaply and as low as possible. But Mark Misha's twenty

1017
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty five review left the entire field with a very

1018
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 2>dark reality. The level of precision the satellite industry demands today,

1019
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the ability to tell a starlink operator three years in

1020
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 2>advance exactly when to delay launch to avoid atmospheric drag,

1021
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 2>may simply be beyond what the chaotic physics of the

1022
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 2>solar dynamo will ever allow we cannot predict the turbulence.

1023
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>So yes, we are rolling the dice every single time

1024
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a major cme leaves the Sun, which.

1025
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Brings us to the big picture of this entire discussion,

1026
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>zooming out from the immediate danger of this battle zone,

1027
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>this whole saga with Cycle twenty five, the failed supercomputer models,

1028
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 1>the rogue terminator theory, the falling satellites, the terrified farmers,

1029
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.400
<v Speaker 1>It forces a deep philosophical realization about our place in

1030
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Predicting the Sun is an exercise in extreme humility.

1031
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 2>It truly is. And you can see that humility and

1032
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 2>how the agencies are acting now. We are currently staring

1033
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>down the barrel of Cycle twenty six, which is estimated

1034
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to begin sometime between January twenty twenty nine and December

1035
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty two. And do you know what the official

1036
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>consensus prediction for the strength of Cycle twenty six is?

1037
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Let me guess there isn't one? Is there?

1038
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 2>There isn't. After getting burned so badly by their arrogant

1039
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 2>confidence in Cycle twenty five, NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center

1040
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>explicitly refuses to publish a consensus prediction for the strength

1041
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>of Cycle twenty six. No one in the agency is

1042
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:55.199
<v Speaker 2>in a hurry to put a hard number on it.

1043
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 2>They have been thoroughly humbled by the star they study, and.

1044
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That gets right to the heart of the scale crisis

1045
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>we are dealing with as a species. The Sun has

1046
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>been generating sunspot cycles, twisting its magnetic fields, and refining

1047
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 1>its chaotic internal dynamo for four and a half billion years.

1048
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 1>It has been doing this across hundreds of millions of

1049
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>years of slow majestic stellar evolution.

1050
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 2>And our data what do we have to combat that

1051
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 2>four point five billion year history. We have crude sunspot

1052
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 2>count records going back to Galileo in the seventeenth century,

1053
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but the detailed, reliable polar magnetic field measurements that the

1054
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen supercomputer panel relied so heavily on, we only

1055
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>have three or four cycles worth of that high fidelity data.

1056
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Even the terminator method, as brilliant and predictive as it

1057
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>has been, has precisely measured maybe two terminator events with

1058
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.559
<v Speaker 2>the extreme ultraviolet instruments they actually need. We are looking

1059
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.320
<v Speaker 2>at a fraction of a fraction of a second in

1060
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>the Sun's life.

1061
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 1>So the core takeaway here isn't that the models were

1062
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 1>stupid or that the scientists were bad at their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>The forecast didn't fail because the Sun suddenly maliciously changed

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<v Speaker 1>its behavior to spite us. The forecast failed because humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>in our incredible technological hubris, tried to decode a four

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<v Speaker 1>point five billion year old chaotic system using only a

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<v Speaker 1>few decades of high fidelity data. The star above our

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<v Speaker 1>heads is doing things we don't fully understand, driven by

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<v Speaker 1>noise and turbulence that we cannot measure on a timescale

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<v Speaker 1>that entirely ignores our recent technological advancements. The universe doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care that we just invented GPS, or that we need

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<v Speaker 1>low Earth orbit internet to trade stocks and watch movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, The blood red auroras over Mexico during the Genin

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<v Speaker 2>storm weren't an anomaly. They were a blindingly bright, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>reminder of exactly who is in charge in this solar system.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sun dictates the terms of our existence. The next

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<v Speaker 2>massive storm is already on its way. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of when the magnetic band snap. Whether our models

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<v Speaker 2>will see it coming in time to save our infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>is an entirely different story.

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<v Speaker 1>And that brings us to the end of our journey today.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we sign off, I want to turn this

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<v Speaker 1>over to you, the listener. We spent this time talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the incredibly fragile, intricate web of technology we've woven

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<v Speaker 1>around our planet, knowing that our entire modern infrastructure, from

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<v Speaker 1>the microsecond precision of the GPS and your tractor or

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<v Speaker 1>your phone to the thousands of satellites flying right over

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<v Speaker 1>your head, hangs in a delicate balance with a four

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<v Speaker 1>point five billion year old chaotic star. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>we are moving too recklessly with mega constellations like Starlink?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we halt these massive launches until we actually understand

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<v Speaker 1>the solar dynamo? Or on the flip side, is this

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<v Speaker 1>immense vulnerability and occasional catastrophic loss just the necessary painful

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<v Speaker 1>cost of humanity stepping up to become a true resilient

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<v Speaker 1>space faring civilization. What is your stand? Are we moving

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<v Speaker 1>too fast or just fast enough? Leave a combat below

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<v Speaker 1>and let us know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the most critical infrastructure question of our decade,

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<v Speaker 2>and one we are going to have to answer very

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<v Speaker 2>soon before the Sun answers it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us for this exploration

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<v Speaker 1>on Thrilling Threads River to sand Castle on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>The tide is definitely coming in and the ocean is

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<v Speaker 1>playing by its own rules. Stay curious, stay informed, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see next time.
