WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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So 21 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:05.319 what are you waiting for visit www dot untold radionetwork 22 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:06.560 dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence, and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.359 enough out here looking them do the one down now 34 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:08.840 and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello, 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.719 hit the boddy out here? What quin I'm out there? 36 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.159 I've thought of a bitch of about tech foot nine. 37 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:18.280 I don't know. Easy am out there? Yeah, I'm walking right, heady. 38 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.479 Our folks will walk up. My guest to the show. 39 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.280 It is Jerry from North Carolina. Welcome to the show. 40 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.560 Man. Thank you for having me. What an honor. I 41 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:26.280 appreciate it. 42 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:27.680 I am glad to have you here. 43 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:27.800 Man. 44 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.560 I say this every time this happens. 45 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:30.719 It's rare. 46 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.800 These days that I actually get to meet somebody in 47 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.879 person and then have them on the show. It is 48 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:36.560 one of my favorite things in the world to actually 49 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.080 meet somebody in person and then get them on the 50 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.520 show to talk about their experiences. You and I hung 51 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.080 out together up in South Carolina at the Westminster Bigfoot 52 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.639 Festival just a couple of months ago. We're not here 53 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:49.520 to talk about that, though, We're here to talk about 54 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.120 your experiences. I'm going to start where I start with 55 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:53.919 everybody when I bring them on the show. What in 56 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.400 the world got you interested in the subject of bigfoot 57 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.000 sasquatch to begin with, you call. 58 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.639 It a three. When I was a kid I fifty 59 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.439 eight now, so in the seventies, the movie that initially 60 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:09.520 caught my attention was The Legend of Boggie Creek. My 61 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.439 granddaddy took me to see it, and gosh, being a 62 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.439 kid that was raised in the country in the woods, 63 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:18.159 that captured my imagination and made me think. But as 64 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:23.560 I grew older, of course I never disbelieved, but it 65 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.319 certainly was something that was far out of my mind. 66 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:29.439 I checked a book out at Fort Bragg Library when 67 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:31.360 I was stationed there, and it was called The Bigfoot 68 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.439 Case book, and lo and behold, I found a whole 69 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.479 mess of sightings from the area in and around where 70 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.520 I grew up in North Carolina. So that kind of 71 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.439 snagged my attention a little bit, made me want to 72 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.520 see a couple of the other movies that came out 73 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.960 after Legend of Bogie Creek. But fast forward from then 74 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:53.240 to about twenty thirteen. The summer of twenty thirteen, so 75 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.000 we bought this place here in the foothills of North Carolina, 76 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:00.319 middle of nowhere. I have tens of thousands of aker's 77 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.319 of wilderness around me to explore in Roland. So we 78 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.879 bought the place and we started coming up on the weekends. 79 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.680 Before we moved lock Stock and Beryl and I started hiking. 80 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:12.759 Brother and I hiked. I would leave out on a 81 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.960 Sunday morning. I'd be gone all day, and I started 82 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:20.879 finding tree breaks. I had no clue. I wasn't a 83 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.279 Sasquatch guy, other than to say I liked it from 84 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.079 an entertainment standpoint. But I found one, and then two, 85 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.279 and then three, and then four and so on, And 86 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.839 finally I was watching something on TV. I forget the show, 87 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:37.439 but I saw a guy there. He's written several books, 88 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:40.240 and his name escaped me. He wrote Beyond Boggy Creek 89 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.079 in that whole series of books. I emailed him and 90 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.199 I said, can you tell me about these tree breaks? 91 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.600 Does that mean anything? Because they were mentioned in that 92 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.680 little documentary I watched, and he said, yeah, it definitely 93 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:54.800 means something. If you're finding a lot of them. They're 94 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:58.600 all broken up high broken while they're alive, or broken 95 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:01.759 while they were green, as we say, so, that really 96 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.959 put it on my radar. My mind is beginning to 97 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:09.639 think could it be possible. I started reading more, watching 98 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:15.600 more documentaries, but then totally out of nowhere. In August 99 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.959 of twenty seventeen, my wife and I turned on to 100 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.800 the road we live on. It's about nine thirty at night. 101 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.959 There was a cornfield off on the left, and as 102 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.040 we made the right hand turn, it lit that cornfield 103 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.160 up and that there was one standing outside the corn 104 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.720 just a few feet from the road. Though it was 105 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:37.120 a split second, that image burned into my mind. As 106 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.360 it registered, I hit the brakes and I said, keep 107 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.360 an eye on it. I wanted to back the car 108 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.240 up and put the headlights on the cornfield. By the 109 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.879 time I got situated the creature was already in the 110 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.399 corn butt. You could see above the corn stalks its 111 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:56.800 head as it walked away. It wasn't running, that certainly 112 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:01.519 was moving at a pretty good pace, large distance between 113 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.639 its steps. That night, the bug bit me. That's what 114 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:06.519 I like to say. That bug bit me, and I 115 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:10.720 went to a state of wanting answers. I wanted to 116 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.199 know as much as possible. I had to woe the 117 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:18.519 reins back on that horse, because I would teeter on obsession. 118 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.800 The one saving grace there in the beginning was me 119 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.399 and my wife decided not to talk to anybody about 120 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.000 it outside of just a couple of people. Then we 121 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:32.240 had some other experiences. We had some vocalizations that we 122 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.680 begin to hear, And just to hitch you with my theory, 123 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.399 I believe it was a time period when this group, 124 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.399 with this clan of Sasquatches had moved into the area, 125 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.639 because I fully believed that they wronged their nomadic so 126 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:52.439 to speak. Who knows why, but lots of vocalizations, the 127 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.759 tree knocks and the whoops all the while, I've got 128 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:57.800 it in the back of my head are we being hoaxed? 129 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.079 And the longer it went, the more that I came 130 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:04.759 to the reality that we were not being coached unless 131 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.959 there was an entire team of oaksures who were working 132 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.000 twelve hour shifts after the sunsets to three or four 133 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:16.560 in the morning. Then in twenty nineteen, I saw two 134 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:21.000 different creatures at two different times. One was standing just 135 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.800 outside the woodline. That was another split second thing. It 136 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.000 appeared very much smaller than the first one I saw. 137 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.480 I could tell that it was same species, but I 138 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.279 think it was probably a juvenile five feet tall something 139 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:38.319 like that. A couple months later, December of twenty nineteen, 140 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:42.279 a family member of mine was staying here with us 141 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.839 for the Christmas holidays, and we both got to see 142 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.120 another one. And now this one was back to being 143 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.879 a creature that was full grown. We extrapolated based on 144 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.120 the tree that we saw it standing near that night, 145 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.800 it'd be about seven and a half foot tall, the 146 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:02.120 broad shoulders, the no neck, the big size. I remembered 147 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.600 that about the first sighting of just how much it 148 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:09.120 struck me of how gargantuan this thing was in wits 149 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.399 not to mention hot, And that was a split couple 150 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.000 of seconds and it was gone. It cleared my four 151 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.519 foot filled fence just stepped over it and was gone. 152 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.959 I began to spend a huge amount of time outside 153 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:25.639 at nay. I always go out to check on my 154 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:30.079 farm animals. You never know. We have lamas, alpacas, goats, turkeys, 155 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:33.159 the whole gamut, and we have a bunch of dogs. 156 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.440 Right now, I think we're at eleven. So the nighttime, 157 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:38.720 I would start taking a dog or two out at 158 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.519 a time, and I would try to spend at least 159 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.720 an hour outside listening. We begin to accumulate these experiences. 160 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.519 I took the risk of deciding to talk to a 161 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.559 few people who live local, and a couple of those 162 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.720 risks I took paid off tremendously because I found a 163 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:57.559 neighbor of hours. They were willing to share the experiences 164 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.240 that they had. I just kept going. I had a 165 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:02.240 little more boldness. I wasn't ready to come out and 166 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:05.519 tell the world I believe in Sasquatch. I believe I've 167 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.480 seen them. There was just a real small circle of 168 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.759 people that I talked to about it. And then in 169 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.559 twenty twenty, I had taken a job here to small 170 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.519 town a chaser on your line, and the lady that 171 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.120 owned the store was in our inner circle. So she 172 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.240 got a call one day from Fox Nation. They advised 173 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.440 her that they were will be doing a documentary about 174 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.919 our local Bigfoot. We'd call them Nobby or Nobby's. And 175 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.919 they asked her if they could use the store as 176 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.759 their headquarters, because we don't have a town hall, brown 177 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:39.120 we don't even have stop lot, and she said yes. 178 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.120 Then they asked her, do you know somebody at my interview? 179 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:45.679 So she called me and asked me. Gave me the 180 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.159 number for this guy out there in LA and I 181 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.879 called him and I said, Okay, I'll do it. I'll 182 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.840 talk about the things I've experienced, I'll talk about what 183 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.080 I've learned from people, but you're going to have to 184 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.759 silhouette me and disguise my voice. So they agree, the 185 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.399 time came, they filled and then about six months later 186 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.960 they aired it, except they forgot the disguise moubles. And 187 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.919 when something happens around here in this community, it doesn't 188 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.759 take long for everybody to know it. So everybody in 189 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.080 three counties knew that it was that dude that works 190 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.639 at the store that was on a Bigfoot documentary talking 191 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.399 about this thing. I suffered from the same fear as 192 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.799 everybody else did. Fear of ridicule. I feared somebody mocking 193 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:30.759 me or doing something to push me to the point 194 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.639 of me losing my temper or something like that. But 195 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.360 it never happened. It never happened, not one time. And 196 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.600 then the dangerous thing happened. People started coming to the store, 197 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.000 a few at a time telling me their stories. Some 198 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.120 of them required anonymity, some of them didn't, And so 199 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.240 I started having the great vantage point of being able 200 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.480 to hear people's stories, which that's my love. I want 201 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:59.480 to hear about people's experiences from their mouths, with their words, 202 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.759 and I was privileged enough for that to start happening now. Meanwhile, 203 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.720 my cousin and four or five other people that rounded 204 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.799 after group. My cousin came on board on the big 205 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.240 Foot track. He said, can we do a cap out? 206 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.480 I said sure, absolutely. This was in November of twenty twenty, 207 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.799 before that show ever aired, so I was still kind 208 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.600 of in the shadows. We set up in a creek 209 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.200 bottom devised our game plan. About nine point thirty that night, 210 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.600 we went on a Nike hike. It was mostly without incidant, 211 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:34.919 except to say we heard a tree knock. The tree 212 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.639 knock came from a direction in the woods where there's 213 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.279 just woods laid note of that. We would stop and 214 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.759 sit and listen, and then start until we reached our 215 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.600 terminus point. We turned around and started heading back to camp. 216 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.879 In about five minutes from getting to camp, a rock 217 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.840 came in from our right. That part of the property 218 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.080 was logged about ten years ago, so it was fairly 219 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.279 thick with undergrows and saplings. The rock came out, barely 220 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.039 missed my friend's head I'm going to say six or 221 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.120 eight inches, and landed in the trail next to our left. 222 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.399 We saw it hit and roll and everybody stopped. I 223 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.679 never thought that I would be witnessed to something like that, 224 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.879 so big rock, and it came in not like a 225 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.320 baseball throw, but like a mortar ramp, a big arch 226 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.639 on it. Had that hit one of us in the head, 227 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.240 we would have definitely been heading to the hospital, hopefully 228 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.480 not the funeral. So that became a thing for us 229 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.039 that group. We would camp out once in the late winter, 230 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:38.480 once in the spring. Meanwhile, I was fortunate enough to 231 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:42.240 meet Bob Trent and Dwight Campbell now Bob and DWIGHTE 232 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.600 and Tim Dill's started the group. That's the time it 233 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.679 was called Dirty South Squatching. Now it's called Sasquatch recon 234 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.720 But I reached out to Dwight and I said, hey, man, 235 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.399 I've got a million questions. I don't have anybody to 236 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:57.799 talk to. Nobody was the experience. I'm getting to hear 237 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.600 people's stories, but all of us are in the same boat. 238 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.039 We're having these experiences. I can read and I can 239 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.240 watch documentaries, but it's not the same as talking to 240 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.679 a man or a woman who's been boots on the 241 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.960 ground and who have had their own experiences. And that 242 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.639 those fellows had a tremendous amount of woods tile under 243 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.200 their belt. So they started bringing me along. We did 244 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.360 another camp out the following year in November. This was, 245 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:26.200 I guess you would say the fourth most significant sighting 246 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.879 that I ever experienced. We did the exact same thing. 247 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:34.240 This group, including my cousin his wife. We decided, actually 248 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.279 he decided, he said, Hey, I'm going to bring my 249 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.279 wife to see if having a female in the group 250 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.399 makes any difference. So we really didn't experience anything. We 251 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.159 went on a night hike and we got to the 252 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.960 end where we would always stop just sit down and listen. 253 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.200 And my cousin had bought a thermal scope, and everybody 254 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.440 was watching their sector. We were listening and I hear 255 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:57.320 him comming name. He said, Jerry, come here, come in. 256 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:59.759 She was holding the scope. He said, don't move the 257 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.120 sk go just put your eye to it and look. 258 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:05.519 And as I did, I could see the signature of 259 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.879 a large tree, but on each side of the tree 260 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.720 was some heat, and immediately to me it looked like shoulders, 261 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.799 and I was studying that picture, and suddenly it peeked 262 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.960 out around from the tree and I could see the 263 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.759 heat signature of a face, definitely different than a human. 264 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.720 You could tell that there was a lot of hair, 265 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.240 and I said, it just looked at me. He said, 266 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.440 it's been doing that for several minutes, and I watched 267 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.840 it and it did it again. Several of us got 268 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.320 our turn looking through that thermal scope, and then my 269 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:37.600 cousin got the scope back and he was keeping us 270 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:42.120 all updated. He said, okay, it's moving. My first thought 271 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.519 it was coming toward us, and I was excited and 272 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:47.039 scared at the same time. He said, no, it's moving backward. 273 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.679 It was literally walking backwards, and finally it walked in 274 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:52.720 such a manner that it got out of the line 275 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:55.600 of sight. The tree was no longer blocking it for 276 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.600 just a couple of seconds before it disappeared into the brush. 277 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:02.559 Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be 278 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:04.399 right back after these messages. 279 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.960 After we discussed that, and when we waited. Oh, and 280 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.960 we also picked up the smell. I left that part out, 281 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:19.919 the heavy smell, the classic coop mixed with maybe a 282 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:23.399 tiny bit of skunk or wet dog or god knows what. 283 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.120 But we just sat and waited, hoping it would come back, 284 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.639 or hoping one of its friends would come back. And 285 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.159 it did not. We hiked back to camp. We set 286 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.320 around the campfire for a little bit. We all went 287 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:35.960 to bed. At three o'clock in the morning. We woke 288 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.679 up and we were surrounded on three sides. They were 289 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.720 moving off in the brush on three sides of us, 290 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.039 walking slowly. Several people in the group were terrified. I 291 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.639 listened to the creature's walk, and I guess I must 292 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.480 have been really tired. We couldn't see anything with the thermal. 293 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.679 They were too deep into the brush, as the Appalachian 294 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.360 brush can be very deep, especially in a creep bottom. 295 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.879 So I fell asleep, woke up the next morning, and 296 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.879 two people actually stayed awake all night and they said 297 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:11.960 that for another hour they heard the creatures walking around us. 298 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:16.039 People will say, was that a bear. No, bears don't 299 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.559 travel in numbers like that, and bears aren't gonna split 300 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.080 up to surround the camp. That's not a bear's behavior. 301 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.240 Do you think it was people? And my answer is 302 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.320 always not around here, because they know better. If you're 303 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:31.480 creeping around somebody's house or somebody's camp at night, you 304 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.720 may not come out of it too well. So Bob, 305 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:36.840 Tim and Dwight would come up here some and we 306 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.600 would just set up their equipment and here and there 307 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.279 we got some good evidence. But along the way, Bright, 308 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.000 there's been so many different incidents, and honestly, usually they 309 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.559 catch me off guard. I've been armed with the Sony 310 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.840 stereophonic recorder now for about three and a half years, 311 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.039 got a couple hundred hours of wood knocks and whoops 312 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.360 and howls. I haven't heard the howls many time, but 313 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.080 that's the most terrifying of the sounds that we hear. 314 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.079 This howl. The first time that I heard it, it 315 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.839 haunted me because it was so close down there in 316 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.920 the creek bottom, and I couldn't get it off my mind. 317 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.680 Then another incident occurred the bottom of my pasture. If 318 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.640 I have an animal on account it for, I have 319 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.200 to go find it. This one particular night, I was 320 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:24.720 down looking for the animal and I heard whistling from 321 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:28.400 the woods. Wasn't a bird. I'm a western North Carolina boy. 322 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.440 I'm going to tell you every night sound a bird 323 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:34.799 will make everyday sound, and it was not. Then a 324 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.880 couple weeks later, same scenario. I was just sweeping the 325 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.880 woods with my spotlight and I hit a pair of 326 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.880 red eyes, which unnerved me. I had seen green eye 327 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.720 shine a number of occasions, but of course the red 328 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.680 eye shine stood out. I'd never seen that, and I 329 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.200 knew it wasn't a fox or a panther. They'll have 330 00:17:55.400 --> 00:18:00.400 more of an orangish red, even a yellow, but the 331 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.720 height and the distance between those two eyes. Then another occasion, 332 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:07.599 same thing, going after one of my animals to go 333 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:08.880 get it. It got down at the bottom of the 334 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.880 hill and I got yelled at it was either it 335 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.319 took a deep breath in or blew a deep breath 336 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.599 out and then yelled, growled extremely loudly, and I had 337 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.039 gotten to the point that I didn't want to go 338 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.039 in the woods at all by myself, which is completely 339 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.319 and totally out of my character. That last thing that 340 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:32.880 happened with the growl, it was thirty forty feet from 341 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.880 me into the woodline. It was that close. I was 342 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.039 under I don't know a spell, I don't know what 343 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.480 to call it. I was in a mental funk. I 344 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:43.920 went so far as to talk to my friend who's 345 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:48.200 a retired counselor. He gave me some pointers. Then my 346 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.720 cousin's mothers gave me a pep talk, said, look, you 347 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.079 just need to pray for protection. Don't do anything dumb, 348 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.599 just be observant. Nothing down there's going to hurt you. 349 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.799 And she had a point because out of all the 350 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:03.920 people that I had spoken with who had come to 351 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.559 me with their stories, never heard a story of anyone 352 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:12.559 being hurt, actually hurt. The closest thing we get is 353 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:16.960 the rock throw I've been present for three different rock 354 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:20.880 throwing incidents now, and the last time happened in August 355 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.519 of last year. My wife and I was walking in 356 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.319 the creek in a more remote area, an area we'd 357 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.440 never been. We got a couple of woodenknocks, one on 358 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:31.720 each side of the creek. And this was broad daylight. 359 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:36.559 Mind you, here, we don't have virtually anything happens bigfoot 360 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.000 wise in the daytime. Maybe three times have I heard 361 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:43.680 of vocalization during the daylight. But these woodenknocks came from 362 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:47.200 both sides of us, fairly close. I'm gonna say fifty 363 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.640 to seventy five feet. We stopped. I talked her into 364 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:52.799 taking a knee, and we just watched and listened. She 365 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.799 watched one direction, I watched the other. We had nothing 366 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.720 further happen, so we got up to start walking. Just 367 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:02.400 about five minutes on the creek, a rock come in 368 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:04.599 as a piece of quartz. It was a little bit 369 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:06.400 smaller in the soft ball, a little bit bigger than 370 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:09.319 the baseball, and it missed her head by six inches. 371 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.160 I was directly behind her, and I saw the rock 372 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.319 as it went over her head and it splashed in 373 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:20.440 the water. And I thought to myself, if this creature 374 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:24.039 wanted to hurt one of us, it's close enough. Obviously 375 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.359 it could hit us if it wanted to. My wife 376 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.240 she said, we're gone. She said, you can stay here 377 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.279 if you want to. She looked like she was water 378 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.680 skiing on that creek without a both pulling her. Hopefully 379 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.920 she'll go back in the woods with me. Sometimes that 380 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:42.359 was pretty scary, especially considering she's had far less experiences 381 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.319 than I have. She's had a number of experiences, but 382 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:49.480 that would have been her first close end encounters. We 383 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:54.720 continue to hear the vocalizations this time of year where 384 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.759 I live, cold weather is when things ramp up. The 385 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:00.920 thing that I was told way back by some of 386 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.079 the old timers that here where I live, i'm at 387 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.920 the foot of the South Mountains, that these creatures during 388 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.400 the summer, the older ones and the ones who are 389 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.359 infirm may move back to higher ground because it's cooler 390 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.559 in the summer of one thousand and fifteen hundred feet higher, 391 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:20.279 and it may be the younger ones stay back to 392 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:22.839 make sure that they still have a claim on their territory. 393 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.599 I think that we have two groups. I think we 394 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.519 have one clan living southwest of US, and I think 395 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:32.319 we have another clan of them living separate north of US. 396 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:37.319 Found footprints in both locations. Another huge piece of evidence 397 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.720 is the deer kills that we find, not just one 398 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.039 or two. But we've found two different areas with just 399 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:46.799 a lot of deer kills. You're talking in each area 400 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:50.039 less than an acre. We see the ribs are broken, 401 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:54.119