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<v Speaker 2>Now, what's up? Friendos? Welcome into the In This League

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Football Podcast. This is the Running Backs Rank, Episode

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<v Speaker 2>Part two. I'm the Welsh that is Scott Bogman, and

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<v Speaker 2>today we're going to be going through a deeper look

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<v Speaker 2>at the deeper options at RB's you're you know, probably

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<v Speaker 2>most I mean, I guess there's a couple guys in

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<v Speaker 2>here that could be like RB twos for you. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to kind of be the RB three slash

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<v Speaker 2>flex and some deeper plays that we're looking at. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to you know, build the cord like the

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<v Speaker 2>structure of having some depth, whether you're trying to take

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<v Speaker 2>some huge shots. What are the deeper side of the

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<v Speaker 2>running back look like we're going to be going through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot Com got a funny episode. We're doing this too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a fifty running back episode Ranks episode

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<v Speaker 2>with Fitzie and Sealy bogs in between us recording these

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<v Speaker 2>two episodes MM. And the concept was actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>unique because you know, we've got a lot of rank episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some episodes that you know, tail into similar topics

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<v Speaker 2>when you just churn out videos like we do at

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Pros. But this one was like taking the tiers

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<v Speaker 2>of the running backs, the top ten and picking one

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<v Speaker 2>singular back that you did not agree with their rank

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<v Speaker 2>on positively or negative. And I thought it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really Pollyanna, but I'll just throw this aside

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<v Speaker 2>to you. The one negative one the one that actually

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<v Speaker 2>really popped out there. And this is interesting from that conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of important because two of these players

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<v Speaker 2>are going to come up in this episode is Quinchan

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<v Speaker 2>Jutkins and that was one of you guys want to

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<v Speaker 2>go live negatively negatively and that was from Sealy. Seely

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<v Speaker 2>picked a negative take on not agreeing where the quinch

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<v Speaker 2>On Jutkins rank is. And he has a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>is outside of our top twenty five, higher than Quinchewn Jutkins.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a little bit of a tease. So a

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<v Speaker 2>running back outside of our top twenty five where we

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<v Speaker 2>have Quinchewn Jutkins at twenty three and this guy is

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<v Speaker 2>higher than Judkins and the name. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a really surprise. It's probably in the realm of

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<v Speaker 2>possibility of the names you would think. But from an

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<v Speaker 2>ECR perspective, if you're looking at the Expert Consensus ranks

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<v Speaker 2>on Fantasy Pros, one of Quinchaw Jutkins is an RB two,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is an RB three based on those ranks.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind of an interesting conversation we have. Uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you took a guess. That's funny. You took a guest

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<v Speaker 2>and the chat Bogman did it was not that player.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a good player, and I actually brought that

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<v Speaker 2>player up on this episode. So go and check it

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<v Speaker 2>out on Fantasy Pros. You're continuing your guest, you could

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<v Speaker 2>say them out loud if you want to. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the correct one. Yes, when we get there, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>correct name that Jake has.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually the incorrect name, but yes, he thinks it's name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, this is gonna be good. I should we

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<v Speaker 2>should have brought Jake on to have that conversation, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are. So we're going through RB's twenty five through fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did when we last left you the last episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We left off with kind of that twenty one through

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to have a little bit of a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are going to jump into that, which Quinchohn

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<v Speaker 2>Jukins is in that little group, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of bigger tiers of the twenty five down

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty and yeah, I also think there's a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to be had about like let's just do this here

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll jump into the rank. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>realm where you start? It's like a real world where

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<v Speaker 2>up you know, did it and start being real where

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<v Speaker 2>like you you look at a guy and you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't care that they provide oh fine depth as your

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<v Speaker 2>RB three and you want to shoot for the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, if I can give a better example of this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the straight up example I actually use

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on Fantasy pros. And it's a name that

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<v Speaker 2>you guessed that is not the name of the player

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<v Speaker 2>that jacat Jonathan Brooks when I look at Jonathan Brooks's ECR,

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<v Speaker 2>his ECR and Fantasy pros is thirty nine. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we did that episode, I was just hosting. I was

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like for my names. But neither one of

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<v Speaker 2>them picked Brooks, and they agreed because we've all talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Brooks. They didn't pick them, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, he's talked to death by Pat first.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed, but I said, I'm going to mention it because

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<v Speaker 2>this is the prime example of a player that I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't all agree that he should be there. But also, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be let's let's be real for a second. Would

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<v Speaker 2>do you really want as your RB three Rashad White

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<v Speaker 2>or stupid Aaron Jones or Mason or even a MCA

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a nong guy, do you? Is it because they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying and all those guys have an ECR higher than

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Brooks. Is it because there's a sense of safety

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<v Speaker 2>with them? But if you know Jonny Brooke, Jonathan Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>into that, Jonathan Brooks's upside is that of like a

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<v Speaker 2>potential like RB one or top fifteen RB. So the

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<v Speaker 2>question is built around like what level of importance is

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<v Speaker 2>it to have a core RB three piece that you

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<v Speaker 2>can trust versus shooting for the moon, not just quote

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<v Speaker 2>shooting for the moon of a guy like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Emma Johnson if this happens, and this happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>this happens, but a real guy that's getting a huge

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<v Speaker 2>buzz that's gonna get used, like Jonathan Brooks is different

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<v Speaker 2>than those plays. There's not a ton ton of those

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<v Speaker 2>type of players in this grouping of RBS we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jenarian Price kind of fits that mold. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's ranked higher, quite a bit higher than stupid Jonathan Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>But so how what is the level that you balance

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<v Speaker 2>that And is this kind of a test to your rank?

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<v Speaker 2>Right because I look at where you have Jonathan Brooks,

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<v Speaker 2>you have him dramatically lower than me. Do you really

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<v Speaker 2>care about having a Rashad White? And I do, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do, And I'll tell you why. It's because I

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<v Speaker 2>think I feel very, very really safe on our combined

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<v Speaker 2>rank all the way down to sixteen where we have Javonte.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I have Jeremiah Love ahead of Javonte, So

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<v Speaker 2>personally I do feel better about Jeremiah Love. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>what one stop point you would be proud of me.

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<v Speaker 2>We did Jake and I. Before that episode, we did

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<v Speaker 2>a live double mock draft on the Fantasy Pro Twitch

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<v Speaker 2>me and him and I took Jeremiah Love and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got him in the fourth round. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like the ten second pick mock. I got him

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth round for my team construction, but fun

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<v Speaker 2>fact I did not place well. And the next one

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<v Speaker 2>where I didn't take Jeremiah Love. We did it as

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<v Speaker 2>a flex draft number one.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, my second RB, I like to take

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<v Speaker 3>a risk on because I like the floor of the

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<v Speaker 3>RB three is a little bit more this season, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I like to take I Love. I like to

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<v Speaker 3>take Trevion Henderson, guys like that, Guys that may not

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<v Speaker 3>swing or pop off, specifically early in the season. So

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<v Speaker 3>for me, a guy with a high floor like Jalen Warren, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Cuba, like I know you're a Cuba crime RB for

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<v Speaker 2>you to take as your RB three once you've taken Trevion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean shoot, Cuba is a good

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<v Speaker 3>example of this. I think Aaron Jones Went Healthy is

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<v Speaker 3>a good example of this. So is Rashad White in

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<v Speaker 3>that backfield. I just don't really trust your koy crossky merit.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, I think it's conditional based on who

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<v Speaker 3>you draft. But if I have if I go early,

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<v Speaker 3>like if I get into the two of the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten that I want and then I take you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three wide receivers, then I'm more than fine. Give me

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, give me an upside shot on kyleman

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<v Speaker 3>Ungai or Brooks or you know, somebody even deeper like

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<v Speaker 3>Jonah Coleman. So I think it really depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>you have on your roster. It's a little bit conditional.

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<v Speaker 3>But I there's I think there's both sides of the

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<v Speaker 3>coin here in the RB three is when we get

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<v Speaker 3>to it, there is way, there's upside swings and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of floor in there. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 3>in between. But that's what you expect a running back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that's an interesting way to take it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a more you know, pointed towards your strategy of that

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<v Speaker 2>second RB tends to be more of the love slash

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<v Speaker 2>traveon Henderson maybe Jenarium Price type. So you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a floor where I'm trying as best as possible

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<v Speaker 2>to live in the high RB range where like my

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<v Speaker 2>number one RB is someone like a gent or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a Brown or a Barkley. And then I come back

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<v Speaker 2>and I get like a Bucky Irving or Javonte Williams

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<v Speaker 2>or Jacobs and like living like that, then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about it for a while. I'm I'm moving away

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<v Speaker 2>from the I don't live in the Warren and the

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<v Speaker 2>Swift and the touton range. And then I check in

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, I have these two core incredible

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<v Speaker 2>running backs. Why not just take big high upside if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, because what is really the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>the Aaron Jones is and the whites? Or you go

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<v Speaker 2>down a notch and you get Jacorey Krossky Merritt or

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<v Speaker 2>Mason or even Sharbonnay who might be out for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. So that's I think where why I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm more comfortable taking a shot on a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Jonathan Brooks being higher. But it wasn't meant

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<v Speaker 2>to necessarily be just Jonathan Brooks. It was more the

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<v Speaker 2>strategy of how you attack the next running back. That's

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<v Speaker 2>probably good to know because that's going to probably feed

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<v Speaker 2>into a little bit of the ranks because we do

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<v Speaker 2>but we've got a few others in here twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty as far as what those backs look like,

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<v Speaker 2>But we do when we come back from the break,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to hit that last core five, that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one through twenty four, that last little grouping of the

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<v Speaker 2>RB two's that we didn't hit in the last episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk about some of these other names. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a break when we come back. It's Running

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<v Speaker 2>Back Ranks Part two. Right here. In this league, the

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<v Speaker 2>Snosberries taste like Snosberry's.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm freaking out there. You are freaking out man, glittering

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<v Speaker 3>and littering and.

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<v Speaker 2>Glittering and smoking in this league. Break it down, all right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as mentioned in the last episode, twenty one through twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>the the ITL rank is Cam Skataboo, Traveon Henderson, Quincheon Jutkins,

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<v Speaker 2>and DeAndre Swift. Jumpkins and ECR is the highest of

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<v Speaker 2>these players at twenty. Swift is actually also higher. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the low guy on him. I'm also the low guy

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<v Speaker 2>on Trevion where you are lower obviously, and like Skataboo

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<v Speaker 2>than I am or or Quinchin Jutkins a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the four big guys. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Judtkins for a second, because you can go and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the episode. In the breakdown, Jake takes it upon

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<v Speaker 2>himself to talk about Judkins and not agreeing the rank,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it had ended up placing him into

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<v Speaker 2>the mid twenties. And I kind of jumped ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>teased this with him saying, well, the guy in the

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<v Speaker 2>next here that you think is mis ranked, you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me who is higher, quenchhn Judkins or Bachel Tutan And

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<v Speaker 2>he emphatically said, Bachil tutin Tootin' He had it like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one or something like that, and essentially kind of

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<v Speaker 2>flipped in how I think because you have Tooton at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven, you have Judkins at twenty four. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he was closer to Tooting being like twenty one or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, and then Judkins was down there. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the receiving upside that that was going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a big step. And obviously, like Tooton feels a

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<v Speaker 2>little ken Walker to me, Bogs and that like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like there's a lot of middle ground either

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<v Speaker 2>just you're in you think he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>big guy, or you think, nope, Chris Rodriguez is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make this stupid. It's just going to be a mess

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna feel gross, and you're never gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>an even an RB two at any point in the

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<v Speaker 2>season outside of occasional blow ups or something like that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you say you disagree, So talk to us about we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't gotten to Toton yet. He's in this next tier.

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<v Speaker 2>But why do you feel more affirmative on quinch On

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<v Speaker 2>Jutkins because you do. The only of these these four backs,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that isn't in a top twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>for either one of us is me with Travon Henderson.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else still fits in this RB two range. Judkins

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<v Speaker 2>is your lowest. But and why in what case do

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<v Speaker 2>you defend him over Touton?

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<v Speaker 3>Judkins is a much much better running back than by

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<v Speaker 3>shell Touton, and that's between the tackles. Maybe Judkins is

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<v Speaker 3>not as good in the past game as Tuton, but

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<v Speaker 3>that is secondary for a running back, right, So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the offense is better in Jacksonville there are many ways

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<v Speaker 3>you can cut this up right, because the Browns offense

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<v Speaker 3>could just be really bad again, the offensive line fixes

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<v Speaker 3>might not work for them. Quarterback is still a massive question.

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<v Speaker 3>You have rookies as your primary two wide receivers in

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<v Speaker 3>Boston and Casey Kncepcion. I just don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Judy has much left, so I'm kind of done

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<v Speaker 3>with him. Harold Fannon is established talent there. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think Judkins is a three down back. I saw him

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<v Speaker 3>do it at Old Miss. He worked very well with

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<v Speaker 3>Traveon Henderson at Ohio State as well. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>is a three down back if given this opportunity, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily have to have him do that. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know this could get weird in Cleveland with the new

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<v Speaker 3>coaching staff. Rocket Sanders is by far the best goal

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<v Speaker 3>line back here.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude is uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's just a little bowling ball, so uh,

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<v Speaker 3>he is outstanding at short yardage stuff. Dylan Dylan Samson

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<v Speaker 3>is your receiving back in Cleveland, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You is better than Judkins in short yardage only.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, like goal because Rocket Sanders is enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I just think like Judkins, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>he lives.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about this specific role, Like he is not

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<v Speaker 3>a three down back, just as a you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just as a hammer. That is what Rocket Sanders does.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's a big dude. He's hard to bring down.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Judkins has way more moves. Probably he could

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<v Speaker 3>be better at the goal line, just because he can

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<v Speaker 3>bounce as well. Rocket is straight up and down. He's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, short yardage only to me, so uh, Bichelle

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<v Speaker 3>Tuton might fit very well in Jacksonville, that is a possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't think he's nearly as good of

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<v Speaker 3>a back as Judkins, and I don't think he's much

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<v Speaker 3>better than Sea Rot if you go look at a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the efficiency metrics from last season. Yes, they're

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<v Speaker 3>on different teams, but in almost everything it was Sea

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<v Speaker 3>Rod a little bit better than Tuton on a worst

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<v Speaker 3>team last year with no Jane and Daniels. So I

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more convinced about Tooton than I am Jacory Krossky

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<v Speaker 3>Merritt and stuff like that. I would still take a

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<v Speaker 3>swing on him if I want upside, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>Judkins is the better back, and I think that most

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<v Speaker 3>of the time the talent gets more volume, and volume

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<v Speaker 3>is king and fantasy, and I think that is what

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna end up seeing. With Judkins. He is coming

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<v Speaker 3>off an injury, a serious injury as well, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna be good to go week one. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's the primary back. I think he ends up

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<v Speaker 3>with way more touches than Beachelle Tuton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and by the way, I have these guys next

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, and Judkins one, so I have them

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<v Speaker 2>both his RB two. So I kind of cross the

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<v Speaker 2>uprights on you guys where it's like, these are both

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<v Speaker 2>players that I'm interested in, Like I'm coming around on

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<v Speaker 2>Tooting a little bit more. I mean, I think everything

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<v Speaker 2>you say about Chris Rodriguez, I think he's gonna be annoying,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Tuton's clearly gonna be playing in the

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<v Speaker 2>receiving downs and he's gonna have a big, like third

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<v Speaker 2>down role, whether it's you know, a third down back

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<v Speaker 2>that whether he gets series, I think he could start.

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<v Speaker 2>See I think Chris Rodriguez could start some series. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they could swap between series start, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it always ends with Tutin outside of like short goal

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<v Speaker 2>line stuff. So the annoying part is if Touton is decent,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a good receiving back, but then inside anytime they

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<v Speaker 2>get inside the top five, it's Chris Rodriguez time. That's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be annoying as hell for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think all might eat up some receptions there.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, And that's another that's another that's another side of

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<v Speaker 2>it too. But I also think, like quinch On Judkins

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<v Speaker 2>proved to be one of the best playmakers on that team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean average the same amount of points, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way as Trevion Henderson he played. That's a from

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<v Speaker 2>a per game base. He was down a couple games,

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<v Speaker 2>so he fell short of being able to put up

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand yard season. And I think there's a real

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<v Speaker 2>possibility that, like they might want him as a three

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<v Speaker 2>down back. You know, maybe they're gonna get in Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe Dylan Samson's gonna kind of get his role.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, it also just might be

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<v Speaker 2>the first five or six downs if they have a

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<v Speaker 2>long extended drive, it is Jutkins, and then they bring

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<v Speaker 2>in these other guys as complimentary for I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how this team is going to justify not having

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<v Speaker 2>Jutkins get twenty touches per game, whether that's getting a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of catches, it's just straight carries. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the volume is there. I think the upside of dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of people have like dreamcast

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<v Speaker 2>on him, Like, well, what if he catches fifty passes

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<v Speaker 2>and they do that, It's like maybe he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty five, you know, like maybe it's ten to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty maximum more if he's more of a down back.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, what if he gets three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty touches or something like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this coming year he had two and thirty carries, hit

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<v Speaker 2>around twenty six catches, so two fifty. What if you

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<v Speaker 2>up him to three fifteen, three twenty five or three fifty. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a top he could be a top

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen back. I just don't know if the upside is

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<v Speaker 2>that much greater unless there was an insane touchdown run.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like both of these players.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, you know, Samson is a really good backup.

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<v Speaker 3>I know our guy Worm really likes Samson as well.

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<v Speaker 3>He did out of college very you know, he's electric.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Samson is he's very good with the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in his hands, very wiggily, but three downs, Judkins

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<v Speaker 3>has them all. And I think the usage, if if

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<v Speaker 3>he was perfectly healthy, it would be I would have

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<v Speaker 3>Judkins much higher, and I would say that the usage

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<v Speaker 3>is probably gonna be like, you know, Derek Henry versus

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<v Speaker 3>Justice Hill, right, so way more Judkins. I think Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 3>can go sideways real fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything? I'm the one guy I just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have stayed away and now I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my rank and I think I might make an adjustment

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<v Speaker 2>because I just don't pull the trigger. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do with Cam Scatty. I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>weird about it. I think he is setting himself up

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<v Speaker 2>to be injury prone. I do think they like him.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like a guy that they're going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to get the ball with. But there's also some word

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<v Speaker 2>that's flying around that like, does it seem insane that

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<v Speaker 2>they might have like kind of a dual system between

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy and him. Not to say that Kataboo isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>main guy, but what if this is a fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>to forty five or a sixty forty. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>sure Skataboo is going to carry that load, that fantasy load.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, he did average sixteen points

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<v Speaker 2>per game in his eight games, which was higher than

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<v Speaker 2>Javonta Williams or Josh Jacobs. That would have put him

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<v Speaker 2>more in the top ten range of fantasy running backs

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<v Speaker 2>if he were to continue that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, Skataboo's debut was awesome and I was completely

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<v Speaker 3>correct about him, so I think with all things.

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<v Speaker 2>So say it again for yourself. I know you just

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say I was completely correct about him and everybody else

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<v Speaker 3>is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I will, and I have openly defended you in multiple spots.

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<v Speaker 2>You the the most s that you took last year

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<v Speaker 2>was anytime as Short was out about you with Cam

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<v Speaker 2>Scataboo and the losers that would make comments about your

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<v Speaker 2>take on Skataboo and how dumb it looked, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you just focus on the productivity of who he was

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<v Speaker 2>as a runner in this offense, like you absolutely did

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<v Speaker 2>nail it, and you just deserve those flowers.

417
00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I watched this dude almost beat the Longhorn single handedly

418
00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:29.599
<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs. He was unbelievable in that game, and

419
00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.839
<v Speaker 3>you know we watched him all year in the Big twelve,

420
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:38.559
<v Speaker 3>ripping up defenses constantly. So I you know, if he

421
00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.200
<v Speaker 3>was completely healthy again, I would have him much higher.

422
00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.880
<v Speaker 3>He had a nasty injury, right, So my question would be,

423
00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:47.799
<v Speaker 3>is this like a slow roll at beginning of the season?

424
00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Is it more split? I think that's what we're going

425
00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.400
<v Speaker 3>to get. I think it's going to be pretty split

426
00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.000
<v Speaker 3>to start, and then it's just gonna be if Cam

427
00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.960
<v Speaker 3>looks healthier. For the deeper we get into the season,

428
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.519
<v Speaker 3>the less splitting you're going to see. Because again, it

429
00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.440
<v Speaker 3>is like Tony Romo Tatis, it's a meritocracy. You merit

430
00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.119
<v Speaker 3>being out on the field. He is the best back

431
00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.119
<v Speaker 3>for the Giants by a lot, so as long as

432
00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.079
<v Speaker 3>there's not injury issues cropping up again, which look are

433
00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.039
<v Speaker 3>a real thing. He only played half the season last year,

434
00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:22.880
<v Speaker 3>right less than half the season, so the injury is

435
00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.400
<v Speaker 3>an absolute worry. Of course, he is a smaller back.

436
00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.680
<v Speaker 3>He runs with reckless, abandon all that stuff, so if

437
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.039
<v Speaker 3>you want to count that in there, you can. I'm

438
00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:35.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit lower on ECR than ECR I have

439
00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:37.839
<v Speaker 3>been twenty three. He's a twenty one, but he's still

440
00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.440
<v Speaker 3>an RB two to me and I would take him

441
00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:40.599
<v Speaker 3>without much hesitation.

442
00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I do have hesitation, and I feel like.

443
00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Like, what if you have hesitation, he probably needs to

444
00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:46.960
<v Speaker 3>go lower then yeah he does, because.

445
00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.920
<v Speaker 2>What if this is like kyne Korum from this past year,

446
00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's without the efficient offense, you know what I

447
00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>mean by that, where it's like it's got to be

448
00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>one series, Tracy, one series, and it's like he's got

449
00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to be on the right side of the touchdowns. I'm

450
00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>not saying that's going to be the case, but Art

451
00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.799
<v Speaker 2>also is still kind of you know, reckless, reckless abandonment

452
00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and his running and you know they get into short yardage,

453
00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:08.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not a guarantee that you're just going to hand

454
00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 2>it off to Skataboo and go. I just I just

455
00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.799
<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit weird about it. I mean, if

456
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you were to just push every back flip. Yeah, everybody

457
00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:18.799
<v Speaker 2>hated the backflip, but you know, you know, he could

458
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.160
<v Speaker 2>be evolved in the receiving game. You know, he can run,

459
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:26.640
<v Speaker 2>like the potential seems kind of great. And also he

460
00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>is given the best So we were using in the

461
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:37.119
<v Speaker 2>previous episode fantasy pros, fantasy points and PFF, and we

462
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>weren't giving we were I mean, we were kind of

463
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.359
<v Speaker 2>going through some of the projections and stuff, but we

464
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.920
<v Speaker 2>use the projection as a rank. Cam Skataboo has the

465
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.240
<v Speaker 2>best projected rank of the four running backs we mentioned.

466
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Trayveon Judkins swift in him in every one of these

467
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:55.400
<v Speaker 2>projected sites except one. PFF has Judkins higher than Skataboo.

468
00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.480
<v Speaker 2>But Skataboo is as high as seventeen on the Fantasy

469
00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Pros projection. And that number is one thousand yards rushing,

470
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:06.519
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty yards receiving, but it ends up

471
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:09.839
<v Speaker 2>being over ten touchdowns. If you round up, it's eleven touchdowns.

472
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:12.759
<v Speaker 2>So that's like close to fourteen hundred yards, forty five

473
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>catches and whatever touchdowns I just said twelve or twelve

474
00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>to or eleven, Yeah, ten to eleven touchdowns, Like that's

475
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:23.559
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big marker. That's pretty similar to what's being

476
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 2>projected out of Kiren Williams, you know, or even some

477
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>of the projections on Jeremiah Love. So like if that

478
00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 2>does lay out, that's the highest of those projections. So he,

479
00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe he does deserve the flowers. I just

480
00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>feel he's one of the that's why I don't draft

481
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys from this range because specifically him

482
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and the last one. We just spent a lot of

483
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.759
<v Speaker 2>time on this. I wanted to talk through with you,

484
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.039
<v Speaker 2>is you're a Travion guy. I'm not a Travion guy

485
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>this year. I think Trevion is wildly talented. We've talked

486
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>about it in multiple spots. He's twenty four on our list.

487
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Because you have him at twenty, I've got him at

488
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty six. The stuff, I know. You don't want to

489
00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>just read like one report and have it be anything,

490
00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.119
<v Speaker 2>because it shouldn't be. But it's it's exactly like the

491
00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 2>report that came out the other He's struggling again in

492
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>pass blocking, and it's like, if he's going to stay

493
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:06.200
<v Speaker 2>on the field, his best case is going to be

494
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.559
<v Speaker 2>able to be a three down back. He didn't really

495
00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>prove that last year. I feel like it's trending in

496
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the same direction and they still love stupid Rimandre Stevenson

497
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, I think he will be fine,

498
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that is deserved of him being

499
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 2>a top twenty four running back because I don't when

500
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I look at his usage one hundred and eighty carries

501
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred yards, which is great. Nine touchdowns that was great,

502
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 2>thirty five catches. I mean it was a solid season.

503
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much more on the upside that

504
00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I see, And I think from a projection standpoint full agreement.

505
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Because guess what the worst projection of every single player

506
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.319
<v Speaker 2>projected rank of every single one of these three of

507
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the four players we're talking about, it's Trevon Henderson twenty

508
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>four in Fantasy Pros, twenty four on PFF and Fantasy

509
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Points has him at twenty nine at RB, and they

510
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>have him going, let's see this. Why am I not

511
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>seeing this? This can't be This projection clearly can't be

512
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 2>right because it says he's rushing for oh that's attempt Sorry, okay, no,

513
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Here we go, uh seven hundred and eighty yards,

514
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy three attempts, two thirty two on

515
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and it's like seven touchdowns. It's essentially him

516
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 2>rolling back. So the projection is with that. I'm not

517
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>a treve young guy because I don't think the usage

518
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 2>is going to go up to a big dramatic degree.

519
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he'll be a tiny bit more efficient, but eleven

520
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>and a half points projected per game on Fantasy Points

521
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is RB twenty nine. That ain't my RB twenty five.

522
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Point one yards per attempt. Let me let me tell

523
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.759
<v Speaker 3>you who else had that. Bijean five point one yards

524
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 3>per ten, Gibbs five yards per attempt, James Cook five

525
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.359
<v Speaker 3>yards per five point two, and uh eight Chan five

526
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 3>point seven, Derrick Henry five point two. Those are the

527
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 3>guys that averaged over five yards per attempt last season.

528
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>That's not not only Sat and he only had one

529
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:56.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty carries. I understand that, but that would

530
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:58.920
<v Speaker 3>be a regression from last year. The numbers you read

531
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 3>off at nine hundred and eleven yards and nine scores

532
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 3>last year, Ramondre Stevenson missed time. We talked about the

533
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>second year for a lot of backs, right, remember that

534
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>second year for JT, that second year for Chase Brown,

535
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 3>what we all hope is going to be the second

536
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 3>year for Ash and genty Right. So I think a

537
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>lot of popping off happens in the second year for

538
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:24.599
<v Speaker 3>big time backs. And I think, in particular what I

539
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 3>like about him, there's two things that I like about

540
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 3>taking Travon Henderson as my RB. Two is that I

541
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 3>feel like the running backs are deeper this year. So

542
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 3>what we discussed before, where I can take a guy

543
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>with a high floor and if you know Trayvon Henderson

544
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>isn't working or isn't working early, I can throw in

545
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Cuba and no, he's gonna get a lot of carriers.

546
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I could throw in Jalen and know at worst he's

547
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 3>splitting with Rico, right. I could throw in Jerim Price,

548
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 3>who's going to be the guy early, Tony Pollard just

549
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 3>lead back, right, So I could take one of these

550
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 3>guys and I can kind of supplement those early possible

551
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 3>struggles for Traveon Henderson and play for the upside. So

552
00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 3>this is not a pick I'd make an every year

553
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>with every scenario, but with the depth behind him. I

554
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 3>do like taking the risk at RB two uh and

555
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 3>taking Trayvon Henderson. I'd rather take it on love, but

556
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I will also take Traveon Henderson.

557
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I will point out fantasy points. Here's the reason as well,

558
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 2>why they're the lowest they ever and Andre projected higher

559
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>than Trevion the twenty fourth.

560
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 3>It's Camps man that I don't know.

561
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I Camps is pushing that for fantasy points.

562
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, dude, it is the like choosing of

563
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the players like their team versus Yeah, this is uh,

564
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 3>who are the where Wolf and Vampire Dorks? Team Jacob

565
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:35.559
<v Speaker 3>versus team whoever?

566
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 2>What a reference? There's a good reference that. No, you

567
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>think anybody in this demographic was watching. I don't even

568
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>know what the hell it's called.

569
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but well yeah, That's what I'm saying though,

570
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 3>is that it's what you're going to see on the

571
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>projections is that different sites are in a different camp

572
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 3>for different situations.

573
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, So, well, two of these sites, by the way,

574
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 2>how I believe how maybe I'm wrong about this? I

575
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 2>thought I saw two of them were higher on remind

576
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 2>right now, PFF is their next to each other twenty

577
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>four and twenty six. It's the Fantasy pros one that

578
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 2>has like a much higher gap between the two. But

579
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 2>PFF is pretty close to those two.

580
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, look and it can reminder is still a

581
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>good back in the league.

582
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Right.

583
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>What I like in particular about the Patriots offense for

584
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Traveon Henderson more than Stevenson, but it should benefit them both,

585
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 3>is adding AJ Brown, you know, adding AJ Brown and

586
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 3>adding Romeo Dobbs to this offense to give Drake May

587
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>some real NFL caliber pass catchers. I think is going

588
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.839
<v Speaker 3>to be enormous for lifting eight men in the box

589
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 3>from both of these running backs. And I think it's

590
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 3>better for Travion because he has more speed. So I

591
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 3>really think Traveon fits perfectly in this offense. If they

592
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>get it working early, it's going to be Travion and

593
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 3>don't look back. At some point in this backfield, it

594
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 3>will be Traveon Henderson and don't look back said last year. Yeah, okay,

595
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's going to be this year. And

596
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 3>obviously I'm saying that with my rank.

597
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, one hundred percent, and just like my and

598
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be right until I'm wrong.

599
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>But it's like that was Jonathan Taylor and Chase Brown.

600
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>So those guys I said.

601
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>I also said it about JT and Chase Brown in

602
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>their second year and it worked out for both of

603
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 3>those guys.

604
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I mean, you could be the right guy.

605
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>You can be the mister. Wright'm right about all this stuff.

606
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. I'm just saying, like this was the argument

607
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>for literally ten weeks before preseason. Travion's going to have

608
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>it almost word for word of what you said. It

609
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>was like at some point Travion's going to be the guy,

610
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's like the team didn't allow it. That's actually

611
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>my big hang up. It's not that he's not talented.

612
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree, he's an explosive playmaker. Get that guy the

613
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 2>ball in his hands and open field all freaking day long.

614
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>That team doesn't want to let him have that. They

615
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>don't take reminder off the field. So why is it

616
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>going to change this year? That's my big question. Maybe

617
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>that's not enough to take away from talented players like this.

618
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 2>It's just Travion still doesn't have a cheap price. If

619
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Travion was close or why where I had him and

620
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 2>you had Treveon next to like Touton and Pollard and

621
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Doubtel and stuff, or where Stevenson is, I wouldn't be

622
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 2>able to help myself. It's just the cost. The ECR

623
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>cost is at twenty four. It's top twenty four. But

624
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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you having your investment in him.

625
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't, And it's gonna it's gonna work one of

626
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>those ways. There's there's probably no scenario where like the

627
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>evenness of this works out like this does feel a

628
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>little bit like easy either gonna it's.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Either gonna Stevens.

630
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, it's like one of one of these

631
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>takes are gonna be right. You're not gonna look at

632
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>this and be like, well, this is.

633
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.799
<v Speaker 3>A little bit in the middle to a point that

634
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 3>you make a lot. You can't wait eight weeks and

635
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 3>then Henderson goes for it, and they'll say, oh, I

636
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 3>was totally right. It's got to be like a month

637
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 3>in and I I think it'll be fairly quick. I

638
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 3>think Henderson takes a big step, though I have been

639
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:50.519
<v Speaker 3>wrong in the past.

640
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Though I will say though in construction is how you

641
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>can make it happen. That that's where, like I I'm

642
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Henderson is not a fade for me in that. Now,

643
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>if we build a scenario, I don't know what your

644
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>running backs would look like, but if you if you

645
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>can have a stable guy and then you're able to

646
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 2>in some way, maybe you take let's just say you

647
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>got McCaffrey at like three or four or five, and

648
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>he came back down, he got a wide receiver, and

649
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>then I'm trying to think of ADPs. I don't know

650
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>if I'm off on this, but if you could do

651
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>really particularly if you could do a round four or

652
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 2>five where you can get a Trevion and then another

653
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 2>one of these back soon. I think you mitigate the

654
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>risk more than where you kind of like the whoever

655
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it is, the boring your guy, the more boring guys

656
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, the tubas and stuff. If you

657
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>could give me Judkins to go with Henderson and I

658
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 2>have a three, it's a heavy back investment, but the

659
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>payoff could be tremendous because if Henderson works out, he's

660
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna ball in your team's and look sick. And if

661
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't work out, you protected yourself with another high

662
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>end running back.

663
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I like your example, but I would say more like,

664
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 3>if I take Trevion Henderson, I'm probably not also taking Judkins.

665
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I think i'd rather take like de Andre Swift. Yeah,

666
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 3>that's probably a better example. Yeah yeah, yeah, just or

667
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>David Monk, like if Montgomery's there, Like, it's more floor

668
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 3>that you love that worn Yeah, yeah, exactly so that

669
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and but that's what makes me have Trevion Anderson at

670
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 3>twenty is that there are backs going behind him that

671
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I also still like and have offer a lot of

672
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 3>floor in protection should that pick not work out.

673
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I made us go so much longer than I

674
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>thought we would on that, but it was a good

675
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>talking points. Yeah, all right, twenty five through thirty four

676
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>at our Actually you know what, I'm going to just

677
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>go straight to thirty six. These are your RB threes

678
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>if you will. The ITL rank has Jendarium Price at

679
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, and if I look correctly, I believe that

680
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 2>is the only one we are bar for bar On.

681
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I think David Montgomery, we're both twenty one.

682
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm in at this range. Oh, we had a couple

683
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 2>of this. Of these twelve, it's the only one we

684
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>go bar for bar four. Number twenty six is Jalen Warren.

685
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>His ECR is twenty seven. Number twenty seven is Basehel Tutin.

686
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Interesting one because I have him at twenty three, but

687
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you got him at twenty seven. I'm actually trying to understand,

688
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 2>And how does that work? By the way, how is

689
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I have Warren really low? You see what I'm saying

690
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 2>here with Warren and Tuton. I have Warren at thirty one,

691
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>you have him at twenty six, but I have Tooton

692
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 2>at twenty three and you have at twenty seven. I

693
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 2>think Touton should be higher on that? Does that wrong?

694
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>About are you also counting in the They both.

695
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Up to fifty, so no, I'm not that up to fifty.

696
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>So it should be Tooton at twenty six and then

697
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Warren at twenty seven.

698
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>That's what it should be, Okay, Yeah, minuscual Ministuel, Yeah,

699
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>but Warren Tony Okay, So twenty eight. Tony Pollard is

700
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>our consensus. We're both very close. Dubdell comes in at

701
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, chew Butt thirty, Ramandre thirty one, Aaron Jones

702
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 2>at thirty two. Thirty three is Rashad White, Blake korm

703
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>is thirty four, R J. Harvey's thirty five, and kylemanong

704
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Gui is thirty six. So I think there's a name

705
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>that's clearly missing out of this which we've talked about.

706
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>And Jonathan Brooks, he didn't make this list because you

707
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and I are pretty different on here. Let's just do

708
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>some kind of quick hits on some of these. I

709
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 2>think we both adamantly agree. Jendarium Price is like such

710
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a good fun back to have. I could see a

711
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>world where I've gone heavy wide receiver and Jenderium Price

712
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>is my second running back. I will try very very

713
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>hard to get into a third one. I personally wouldn't

714
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 2>care about getting a Tutin. I might try to push

715
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>for a Tony Pollard, but Jenerium Price has a ton

716
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>of upside, and frankly, the way these are constructed, you

717
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>could take a Price and then just take Zach scharbona

718
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Ay a little bit later, unless you think they're gonna

719
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>monopolize each other. But you could kind of back yourself

720
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>up if you think one is going to be the

721
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>main guy.

722
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 3>This Pollyanna crap with sharbon A bothers me and I

723
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 3>even like I'm one spot below. We both have sharbon

724
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>A at forty five. But I like all of this

725
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 3>nonsense of him coming back week one. The dude got

726
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>hurt in the playoffs. He is not coming back to

727
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Halloween at best, probably closer to Thanksgiving. So you go

728
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 3>out and you spend a first round pick on Jeneerium Price,

729
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 3>and honestly, nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody knows

730
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 3>with the true ceiling on Jendarian Price is because he

731
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>was behind Jeremiah Love in college, so there could be

732
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 3>we could have a three down back that we all

733
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>slept on and obviously should have been a first round pick,

734
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 3>and he was a last pick in the first round.

735
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 3>We could have a guy that you know was used

736
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 3>more sparingly than we like and that helped him out

737
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot. So I just think that price is way

738
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 3>better than anyone currently healthy and on the roster right now.

739
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>He's way better than Emmanuel Wilson. He's way better than

740
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 3>George Hallane. And I think he is going to be

741
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 3>your main back. And I think if Seattle is close

742
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 3>to making the playoffs again, they're gonna ease Charbonaye back in.

743
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Whenever he comes back, let's just call it the middle

744
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 3>of November to call between Halloween and Thanksgiving, right, I

745
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 3>think he's going to be eased back. So maybe he

746
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 3>gives you some value in the playoffs if he's all

747
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>the way up back up to speed. I just don't

748
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 3>know if we get there this year, that's a brutal

749
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>injury to come over and get past in less than

750
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 3>a year of torn acl So.

751
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Steelers running backs, we are different. You are twenty six

752
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>on Warren, I'm thirty one. You are thirty on Rico,

753
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and I am twenty eight. The projections, I guess, by

754
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the way, I kind of I forget the projections are

755
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of having like an effect on this as well.

756
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>The projections on Warren, they're actually kind of lower than

757
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the ECR for the most part, like Fantasy Points is

758
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>and the Fantasy Pros win if you care on Warren

759
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 2>and Dowdell all of the well, no, actually, PFF is

760
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 2>in favor of my rank. They've got Doubtle at thirty

761
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and Warren at thirty one, but the other two Fantasy

762
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Pros and Fantasy Points do have the projected rank on

763
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Warren slightly higher than Dowdell. You and I your four

764
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>spots difference between them on three spots different between them,

765
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 2>they technically still average out his top thirty backs. You're

766
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>a Warren guy, and I would tell you your boy

767
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>FITZI was kind of with you. He actually pinpointed Dowdell

768
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>is kind of miss ranked because he doesn't really like Daudell.

769
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>One of the things he said though, was like he

770
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>was he was kind of citing off some like receiver

771
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>efficiency numbers, and I'm just not sure that that's necessarily

772
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>fair because like.

773
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>They were both top ten as receivers last night.

774
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so thank you for that one. Well, because he

775
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>was using it and he was just using it in

776
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a way to be like this is why Warren is

777
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>so much better. But it's like Rico Daddell is a

778
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>fine receiver. They just have to be comfortable playing like

779
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 2>checkdowns for that. I think this is gonna be a

780
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>series to series type of thing. These are both very

781
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>capable backs. There is kind of this small precedent that

782
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>was kind of thrown out about how you know, like

783
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 2>you know Rico could you know Rico has been pushed

784
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>in positions where they want to see this be like

785
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy. They obviously brought in a running back last

786
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.159
<v Speaker 2>year in Caleb Johnson that didn't work out, so maybe

787
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>there were questions on it, Like I think Warren's Warren's

788
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>like locked into a role, like he's not gonna lose,

789
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, that receiving down role. He's probably gonna catch

790
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>forty to fifty passes, but I'm just not sure he's

791
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna have two hundred carries again this year. I think

792
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>they might lean a little on Rico. So I like

793
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Rico in some of that touchdown efficiency. I think they

794
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.119
<v Speaker 2>both eat in to each other. But I do think

795
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Rico has shown some some big playability.

796
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Here's what Rico has that Jalen doesn't have his experience

797
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 3>with Mike McCarthy. Right, that's the biggest thing that Rico

798
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 3>has that Jalen Warren doesn't. But every single time we

799
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>doubt Jalen Warren, that's fair. We don't think he's anything,

800
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and he pushes Nausey out of the job. We think

801
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>that Caleb Johnson comes here and takes this job over. Nope,

802
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 3>it's still Jalen Warren. Right, And Kenneth Canwell got into

803
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 3>because Jalen was a little banged up. But I had

804
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 3>these numbers pulled up for this debate specifically in another show,

805
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 3>So I just want to throw a couple oots out here.

806
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Of fifty nine qualified running backs on Fantasy Points, Warren

807
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 3>was ninth in yards after contact per attempt at two

808
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>point four, eight eleventh for Dowdle. So they're right there,

809
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 3>a fourteenth and success success percentage for Warren, fortieth for

810
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 3>dowd fifty four point five to forty eight point three.

811
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 3>That might have been offensive line issues in Carolina though,

812
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Eighteenth in inside the five carry percentage, eighth for Dowdle.

813
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 3>So that's the one thing that Daddle has on him,

814
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 3>is he had more goal line carries for his team

815
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 3>last year than Warranton.

816
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>And this was over Cuba. Who you and you're a

817
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Cuba guy?

818
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I yeah, No, I'm I'm I'm a yeah,

819
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Warren guy. I know this is between Warren

820
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>and Dawdle last year.

821
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I understand. I'm saying like that, like inside,

822
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 2>like you were a Cuba guy.

823
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 3>And we'll talk about you. But Cuba's whole thing to

824
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 3>me is he was hurt last year. But six in

825
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 3>yards per target fourteenth for Doattle, they're not that far off. Uh,

826
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>yards after contact per reception, Warren was first. Uh, Tuba

827
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 3>was second, right or no, I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean

828
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 3>it was first for Warren, it was second for Cuba,

829
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and it was eighth for Dowdle. Yeah. So yards per

830
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>oute run third for Warren, thirteenth for Dottle, target six

831
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 3>for Warren, fifteenth for Doddle. So I I just it

832
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 3>is points per reception is points for out run. Actually

833
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 3>was that's where Warren was six and Dad was fifteenth.

834
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 3>So in all these efficiency numbers, Warren is a little

835
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 3>bit better.

836
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>But Daddell has this.

837
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a true split I think it's

838
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be a growth split for most of the year.

839
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 3>But I do side with Warren a little bit, just

840
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 3>because he's been there longer and he's a little more

841
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 3>efficient when.

842
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't we talk about you on on the side, I

843
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>think Tony Pollard is one of the better values here.

844
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they've done anything to make any significant

845
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>changes against We saw Pollard go over one thousand yards

846
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>last season. He put a full season in it. Touchdown

847
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 2>if top positive touchdown regression could play really well in him.

848
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>If that team is even just a tiny bit more

849
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 2>efficient and a second year under cam Ward and they

850
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 2>can pass the ball a little bit, I feel very

851
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 2>comfortable with Tony Pollard. I don't know about you. Of

852
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>all the running backs in here, no one had more

853
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 2>carries than Pollard last year, but he had one of

854
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the lower touchdown totals overall, and I think a little

855
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>bit more run on there could move him from being

856
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a late twenties guy to being inside the twenty. I

857
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>think he is such a good safe option, and even

858
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>as much that he's one of those dudes were like,

859
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>if I was really really heavy wide receiver, you know,

860
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe I went wide receiver, tight end, running back,

861
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, you know, and I had to. I got

862
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 2>one of the elite tight ends. I got Bowers of McBride,

863
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to get a couple other wideouts. Like

864
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Holler is my number two. I really can't stomach because

865
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 2>I think he provides, just like I don't think it's

866
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>a ton of ceiling, but it's this great floor where

867
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 2>it's like I think I'm gonna get two hundred and

868
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>fifty to two eighty touches. I'm gonna get probably somewhere

869
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>between twelve hundred to fourteen hundred total yards, and if

870
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I get a little bit extra touchdowns, I'm gonna beat

871
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>my cost on it.

872
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 3>So I really like Pollard better offense this year for sure, Right,

873
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>new new coaching staff and all that. Carnell Tate, Wando Robinson.

874
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Second year for cam Ward offense should be way better.

875
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 3>And look, I know people like Nick Singleton. Nick Singleton

876
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know where to run, right, that was his problem

877
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 3>in college. K Tron Allen knows where to run, but

878
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 3>he's not the physical athlete that Nick Singleton is. Nick

879
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Singleton is a crazy athlete that doesn't know what to do.

880
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 3>So I like all the talk about Singleton and throwing

881
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 3>a dart at him and all that stuff. Maybe as

882
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 3>a handcuff, I still think Tidy E. Speiars is way

883
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 3>by Singleton. So yeah, I'm with you Tony Pollard. Like

884
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 3>I said, I take Jeremiah Love. Tony Pollard is on

885
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 3>my radar every single time. I take Treyion Henderson. Tony

886
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Pollard's on my radar every single time for that third back,

887
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 3>so very very strong third back.

888
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>If you can get him there, you're welcome to do this.

889
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 2>You're the Cuba guy. I'm not that much far off.

890
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I've got him at thirty. I've got him in the

891
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 2>same range as Brooks though. So that's where I've kind

892
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>of fall into this. Like I'm a little indifferent about Chew,

893
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>but I think he'll have a fine role. But I

894
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>actually kind of see it in the exact same vein

895
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>as the Jayleen Warren thing, where it's like, I think

896
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get Carries. I think he's gonna be a

897
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 2>good receiver out of the backfield, like you're gonna want,

898
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>but maybe you don't want the major touches he has

899
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 2>suffered that injury last year. Maybe you don't want him

900
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 2>to push over two hundred carries or maybe two undred touches.

901
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>He had like one hundred and sixty last year in

902
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>fifteen games. So I mean, if you want to keep

903
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>him to like under two hundred touches, that potentially leaves

904
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>two hundred plus more touches for a guy like Jonathan Brooks,

905
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>who I think is going to be explosive in open

906
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 2>field when can give it or if there's just any holes,

907
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, open up a hole for him. And if

908
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about am I willing to pass on Cuba

909
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 2>to get Jonathan Brooks like a round or two later,

910
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why I kind of continuously move away from him.

911
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But you're still a Cuba guy. And I know it

912
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 2>was based a lot around that injury.

913
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like he got hurt week three or four September

914
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth was when he pulled his calf and he

915
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 3>was not the same guy after that. This is a

916
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 3>dude that had that came almost out of nowhere. No

917
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 3>one really was buying into Cuba in twenty twenty four.

918
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Had a massive season, right, They made him a team captain,

919
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 3>extended him all this stuff, and then you dropt a

920
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 3>guy like Jonathan Brooks to come in here and be something,

921
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 3>and then Jonathan Brooks gets hurt, right, So I just

922
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I think Cuba was hurt for a big chunk of

923
00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>the season last year, and Rico just went off on

924
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>this crazy tear. Remember that like a month where Rico

925
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 3>was the best player in fantasy for you had the

926
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 3>two hundred yard game, not scoring a bunch of touchdowns,

927
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:11.840
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. So it was just like, well, how

928
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 3>are we taking Rico off the field? He's on fire

929
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>right now. So Juba just wasn't the guy after that,

930
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and I think the CAF thing really dogged him for

931
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the year. So, you know, Jonathan Brooks

932
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>is coming off of a torn ACL and then a

933
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 3>follow up procedure because the first surgery wasn't good enough.

934
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 3>And Jonathan Brooks also doesn't have a ton of experience.

935
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 3>He played behind Beijon at Texas, right, so he had

936
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 3>like eleven games as a starter in college, maybe less

937
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 3>than that, maybe nine, and then towards ACL and then

938
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 3>missed his whole rookie year because he had to have

939
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, clean up surgery again for this. So two

940
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 3>surgeries on the knee make me a little bit leary.

941
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 3>But I talked to Deepak Chona. He said, hey, look,

942
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Brooks looks good. We have, you know, good information from

943
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 3>the doctor on this. So he's feeling pretty good about him.

944
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>And I moved him way up because I was like

945
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 3>two torn knees. He's in the fifties for me, guys,

946
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the hell y'all y'all are talking about,

947
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 3>but after talking to Deepak, I have moved him up.

948
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Still not quite an RB three for me. I don't

949
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>trust him that much, but I you know, I accept

950
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>that I could be wrong. He was great in his

951
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 3>starting stint for the Longhorns, very good back, very wiggly,

952
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, right out of the backfield as well. And

953
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of hope. But I think the

954
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 3>true answer for this Panthers backfield eventually is whoever they

955
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 3>draft next year. I don't think it's either one of

956
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 3>these guys in a great, great role this season.

957
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure I agree

958
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>with that, but it might it might play out like that.

959
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I just I think there's a lot of hope for

960
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>them to have stood by Jonathan Brooks. And you're hearing

961
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>the glaring reports out of camp and you know that

962
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>if he has open field, he's going to do crazy stuff.

963
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Early on, before he had got hurt, you were seeing

964
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>him catch the ball out of the backfield. That's way

965
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going to feature. It's going to be screen passes

966
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 2>to get him open field stuff. Now that also might

967
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 2>be why Chuba continuously gets more touches, and it might

968
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>be more of a you know, a per touch situation

969
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>with Jonathan Brooks, but he's just so cheap. And your rank,

970
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>because he is one of the buzziest players, is you

971
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 2>are out on Jonathan Brooks. And I know you're not

972
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>saying that, and you don't necessarily feel that way, but

973
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you are out because you are lower than ECR. And

974
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>ECR is already dragging at thirty nine. Our rank is

975
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. I you know, somehow I didn't drag it

976
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 2>too much even though I have him at at thirty two,

977
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but I would take him obviously at thirty two, I'm

978
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.280
<v Speaker 2>taking him above Dobbins and Manogui and RJ. Harvey, like

979
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel, I don't know, I mean, maybe

980
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving enough credit to Harvey because Harvey's rank

981
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 2>isn't really too crazy. I have him at thirty seven

982
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 2>in a row. Maybe Harvey's kind of a similar role

983
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I think Dobbins is gonna be annoying

984
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna get carries, but RJ Harvey, I also

985
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 2>don't One thing that really baffled me last year was like,

986
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 2>remember the back half of the year, it was like,

987
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.960
<v Speaker 2>why are you not throwing the ball to Harvey more?

988
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he did end up having forty seven catches,

989
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 2>the fifty eight targets was nice, but there was just

990
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>something about where I was just like, why are we

991
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>not featuring him in that role a little bit more?

992
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Like he? I mean, there's a little bit of gambling

993
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>in my brain where I was like, why can I

994
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 2>not smash the one point five over every single game

995
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>on RJ? Harvey just as a way to get open

996
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>field stuff. But I just don't know if you're gonna

997
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 2>see a concerted effort to have a ton more carries,

998
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and unless they throw the ball hole lot more to him,

999
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not sure Harvey has a ton more upsite.

1000
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's funny because I don't mentally put

1001
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Harvey in the same vein as I do Brooks, And

1002
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's actually kind of wrong. I'm just not a

1003
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Harvey guy. I actually think Dobbins is a kind of

1004
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a decent deal. If you want a boring running back,

1005
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>shit's gonna get volume.

1006
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 3>I would say, like Harvey has experienced, that's like the

1007
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 3>leg up that he has on Brooks. In my opinion,

1008
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 3>that's why I have him a little bit higher. As

1009
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 3>far as why he didn't catch the ball that much,

1010
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he caught it okay in college, but it

1011
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 3>really wasn't a big piece of UCF's game plan, right

1012
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 3>this dude two and twenty carries, two earn thirty two carries,

1013
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 3>nineteen catches twenty kis or twenty catches in his last

1014
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 3>two years in college.

1015
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>So and maybe it was the latter half of the season,

1016
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, interrupt you, but like, because I'm looking at

1017
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 2>the game log and I do see it must be

1018
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the season. I was thinking of where

1019
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it was like, let's go receiving yards over because at

1020
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the end he did have four more targets in four

1021
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.679
<v Speaker 2>of his final five games and caught three or more

1022
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>in four of those final or four of those final

1023
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>six games. He just would have like a dud game

1024
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 2>where they do not throw the ball to him whatsoever,

1025
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and then he would have a game where all of

1026
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>a sudden he's involved in the passing game, and it

1027
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.119
<v Speaker 2>just felt like we could have more explosive playmaking from there,

1028
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>but it was kind of sporadic. It was like they

1029
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>did in the beginning, then they kind of went away

1030
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 2>from it, and then they really jump back into it

1031
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 2>on the back half of the year.

1032
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel the best about R. J. Harvey in that backfield,

1033
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think I'm investing in the Denver backfield

1034
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 3>unless Joanah Coleman falls right. That's the one guy that

1035
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:58.599
<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to take, So maybe I need

1036
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 3>to even be lower on herd. Yeah, I am, I'm

1037
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 3>a spot ahead of ECR or I'm I guess I'm

1038
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 3>one spot below ECR, and I don't really feel that

1039
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 3>great about him, so I will probably lower him a

1040
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 3>little bit.

1041
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy points is the lowest they've actually got him at

1042
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight on this list as far as projected running backs.

1043
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 2>That's the rank that he comes out, and there's really

1044
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>not growth by the way, they have him under five

1045
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred rushing yards or am I looking at that correctly?

1046
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Let's see hold on, let me click that. Yeah, I'm

1047
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 2>looking at the correctly. It's under five hundred rushing yards.

1048
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of the same. They just kind of having

1049
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 2>him run it back and they have Dobbins projected right

1050
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:36.320
<v Speaker 2>under him, so there's I don't know, it seems a

1051
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.320
<v Speaker 2>little weird. I'm not sure the expectations should be like

1052
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 2>that as far as like both Denver running backs are

1053
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 2>going to be outside the top thirty five or thirty six.

1054
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>But they're just kind of both eating into each other,

1055
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 2>which is odd. And Dobbin's not involved in the passing game.

1056
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>But maybe we should give him a little teny bit

1057
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 2>more credit. One more guy in this range. I think

1058
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that's worth the conversation is Blake Korum. The Rams did

1059
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>the thing last year where they play drive to drive,

1060
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 2>especially the back half of the year. First drive is

1061
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Karen Williams, second drive is Blake Koram, and they would

1062
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 2>essentially give those guys the drive. What happened in a

1063
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 2>few instances I recall, especially watching the back half of

1064
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the year, is in those Kirene drives, you would just

1065
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 2>have these moments where all of a sudden, like they

1066
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>would just go twelve and then all of a sudden,

1067
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Koran would come in after you know, Kyraen his gas

1068
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>and Korn would get some of those opportunities. You know,

1069
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 2>you take all the cool workout videos you've seen this year,

1070
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>But more than anything, there is a narrative around Blake

1071
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Koran being way more heavily involved in this offense. I

1072
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how much more he can be involved. He

1073
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 2>had around one hundred and fifty carries, seven hundred rushing yards.

1074
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>They didn't do anything in the passing game really with

1075
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:46.119
<v Speaker 2>either one of these guys. So the question is, I

1076
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 2>guess you were lower, so maybe you're not going to

1077
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 2>be great for this. Do you believe he can be

1078
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 2>more involved? And how does that manifest?

1079
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 3>I think it's pretty easy to write how that manifest.

1080
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 3>They kicked the Jesus out of everybody, right, and now

1081
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 3>in the let's just give Blake korm the fourth quarter, right.

1082
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that's kind of what it is, is that

1083
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 3>this team looks so overpowered right now. Specifically, if they

1084
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 3>bring back Aaron Donald too, which I'm kind of doubting

1085
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 3>every day that he doesn't decide, I'm kind of doubting

1086
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that that's actually gonna happen. So but adding Miles Garrett

1087
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 3>was so huge. This team is still really good. I

1088
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 3>think they were probably the best team in the NFL

1089
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 3>last year. They just got hurt at the wrong time.

1090
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>So.

1091
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 3>That I think that is how you seem more for

1092
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Blake Korm. But I kind of agree with you, and

1093
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 3>they like, look, Koram is still involved, how much more

1094
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 3>can he get involved? So maybe a little more at

1095
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 3>the end of the game. But still it is the

1096
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 3>NFL and most games are close, so I don't think

1097
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 3>there's going to be much more meat on the bone

1098
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 3>for Korn. But there will be a point in time.

1099
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's this year where Koram is just better than

1100
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Kyrin right, it's going to be the age flip. Maybe

1101
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 3>that happens this year. I'm counting on it to happen

1102
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 3>for Henderson over Stevenson. I'm just not counting on it

1103
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 3>for Korn versus Kyron. I think that's the difference between

1104
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 3>those two situations.

1105
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Thirty seven through forty eight. Dobbins comes in at thirty seven.

1106
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit higher. You're not that much lower.

1107
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean ECR is thirty four thirty two, so we're

1108
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>actually both lower than consensus. You more dramatically, Jonathan Brooks

1109
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 2>is thirty eight. That's the big difference. I have him

1110
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>at thirty two, Bogman Hashim at forty two, so we're

1111
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 2>definitely on opposite ends there. Kenny Ganewill comes in at

1112
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine, Jacorey Krossky Merritt is forty and that's a

1113
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 2>weird one because we're both higher, so it must just

1114
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 2>be now other numbers, like we're both higher on than ECR.

1115
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>But he came in at forty four US probably because

1116
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 2>of other guys jumping Tyler Alzire at forty one, Tyron

1117
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Tracy at forty two, Jordan Mason, Zach Sharbone, Chris Rodriguez,

1118
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Jonah Coleman, Woody Marks, and Isaiah Piciceco. That is thirty

1119
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 2>seven through forty eight. That's a representation of your RB

1120
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 2>four in a twelve teen league bench running backs in here.

1121
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say if if you look at it from

1122
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that lens, like Jonathan Brooks is like the best RB

1123
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>four you could put together, if you're thinking about upside,

1124
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I would also say I don't hate I actually really

1125
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>like Jakuri Krasky Merit, and I don't hate Chris Rodriguez

1126
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you with what we talked about before, Like,

1127
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like those are kind of my big placeholders.

1128
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>If you were to strictly tell me, you gotta have

1129
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 2>an RB four what group? And Jake JK. Dobbins is

1130
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>my guy as well, So Dobbins, Brooks, Merit, and Chris Rodriguez.

1131
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I think that's kind of a fun rbfore group. We

1132
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have insane differences. Again, Jonathan Brooks is our biggest difference.

1133
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to talk about him. Who's a guy

1134
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>or two that you want to touch on in this area?

1135
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think Jonah Coleman can take this job

1136
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 3>in Denver. I think he can be the best running

1137
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 3>back for this team. Is he ad as athletically gifted

1138
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 3>as R. J.

1139
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Harvey?

1140
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Probably not, But he's really He's a really good and

1141
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 3>experienced pass blocker. He's great at catching the ball out

1142
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 3>of the back. He has incredible balance, which makes him

1143
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 3>really hard to tackle. He is slippery, right, and he's

1144
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 3>a smaller back, so I think people get weired out

1145
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 3>by that. But and he doesn't have incredible numbers, but

1146
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 3>he had incredible production at Washington, So I'm pretty excited

1147
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 3>to see what he has, because that would be a

1148
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 3>really good offense to be the lead back in. I

1149
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know if we get a lead back this season

1150
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 3>out of that group like we just talked about, but

1151
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 3>I do like taking Jon of Coleman as a flyer,

1152
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and he typically goes lower than this as ECR is

1153
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.280
<v Speaker 3>fifty four. I have him at forty four and you

1154
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 3>have him at fifty one, so I know I can

1155
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 3>get him even beyond this group most of the time.

1156
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 2>One I want to hit you on real quick, okay, please?

1157
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>The player with the highest single project was actually they

1158
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 2>have a shared projection. JK. Dobbins is one of them.

1159
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Pros has the highest projection, But I want to

1160
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about the other guy. The highest projected rank of

1161
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 2>anybody in our thirty seven through forty eight is Kenny

1162
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Gainwell from Fantasy Points. Two is the projection that pops

1163
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>out for him? What my own?

1164
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 3>No, there's one more though. Jordan Mason also has a

1165
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:11.159
<v Speaker 3>thirty two from PFF, which is surprising because Fantasy Points

1166
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>has him at fifty six and FP has him at

1167
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>forty one.

1168
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, I was about to say, where's Jordan Mason.

1169
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 2>He's not on that. Yeah, you're right. I didn't see that,

1170
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it's funny. The thirty two is in

1171
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>each of these Fantasy pros. Number thirty two projected running

1172
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 2>back is JK. Dobbins, who we have at thirty seven.

1173
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Kenny gain Well is Fantasy Points number thirty two running back,

1174
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and PFF has Jordan Mason is their thirty two running back.

1175
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, So I just want to get your take.

1176
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:39.360
<v Speaker 2>You can do it. I mean, you're not a Jordan

1177
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Mason guy. You've been pretty prevalent about that. We've had

1178
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.039
<v Speaker 2>some funny same Fantasy Pro tweets that are just like,

1179
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Mason does one thing, but that thing is pretty good.

1180
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.719
<v Speaker 2>It's just, you know, pound the rock up, you know,

1181
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>up the gut, just get him up on the sides

1182
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Aaron Jones gets the guy be the guy

1183
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that is going to take it to the outside and

1184
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.519
<v Speaker 2>gets to stretch the ball out a little bit, but

1185
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of old and frail. Mason's in a weird,

1186
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 2>interesting situation. But what about Kenny Gainwell, because that's the

1187
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>one that gets really tricky. I'm a big Bucky guy.

1188
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Pat's a huge Bucky guy. But you know, can Kenny

1189
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Gainwell make an improvement as a running back or is

1190
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.559
<v Speaker 2>it strictly going to be in the passing game? And

1191
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty two on Fantasy points is pretty big. The projected

1192
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:25.440
<v Speaker 2>line roughly looks like around six hundred yards. Really only

1193
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 2>three hundred more receiving yards, so I guess that total

1194
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.119
<v Speaker 2>number gets you to around I don't know, nine hundred

1195
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.760
<v Speaker 2>yards and like six to seven touchdowns. It's actually not

1196
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>really a big number. But thirty two, that's a top

1197
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty two back. Do you buy it?

1198
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 3>The dude had seventy three catches last year, right, that

1199
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.119
<v Speaker 3>was in Pittsburgh. They needed guys to catch the ball.

1200
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think what we need to start seeing Gainwell

1201
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 3>as instead of like a true pure RB as a weapon,

1202
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 3>right because he can run out of the slot if

1203
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 3>they want him to. You can do dual back system,

1204
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 3>have him block or have him take the I think

1205
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 3>they gain Weell can do a little bit of everything,

1206
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 3>and he is the perfect insurance for the bucks for

1207
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Bucky Irving because he offers a similar skill set, specifically

1208
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:14.559
<v Speaker 3>in the passing game. So I think you know I'm

1209
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 3>a little higher than you are here. I'm right on ECR.

1210
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a big question as to what is

1211
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 3>his role here right, Like, is Tucker gonna be the

1212
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 3>goal line guy? Are they gonna just leave Bucky in?

1213
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I just think everybody's complimenting Bucky. I think the offense

1214
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>runs through Bucky. Think so Tucker might take some goal

1215
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>line carries occasionally, Gainwell might come in on some third downs,

1216
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 2>But just I think this offense runs through Bucky, and

1217
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.639
<v Speaker 2>everybody else is a good compliment to be around Bucky.

1218
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they don't want to overdo Bucky because the

1219
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 2>injuries to have him have twenty five touches and maybe

1220
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 2>that limits him to eighteen to twenty touches a game.

1221
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 2>But I just don't know how any of those guys

1222
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 2>at any point are scoring more points than Bucky Irving Gaulty.

1223
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I will say this though, I think that you know,

1224
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 3>in terms of upside, it's the Broncos guys, Brooks and Gainwell.

1225
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Just in terms of pure upside in this group, I

1226
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.679
<v Speaker 3>think everybody else is kind of you're playing for floor, right,

1227
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 3>But I think those are the upside guys that you

1228
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 3>want to take a swing on if you're looking for upside,

1229
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 3>if you're not looking for floor here, which most people are.

1230
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 3>So I still think Gainwell proved himself last year. He

1231
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 3>offers more than probably even what the Bucks are looking for.

1232
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Are they going to give it to him? I think

1233
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 3>is the big question. But I still I was very

1234
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:34.719
<v Speaker 3>impressed with what I saw at Gainwell. After you know,

1235
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.239
<v Speaker 3>being stuck behind Saquon, you're not getting carries behind Saquon.

1236
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Nobody is right. So we didn't really know what we

1237
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 3>had in Gagwell, and now we know he's a much

1238
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 3>better asset than he was given for Philly. And I

1239
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:46.760
<v Speaker 3>was surprised that Pittsburgh.

1240
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Let him go. Yeah, your name, do you buy the

1241
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Woody Marx is going to get fifty to fifty run

1242
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 2>with Dave Montgomery.

1243
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Not even a little bit. I think if you were

1244
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.199
<v Speaker 3>that confident in wood he marks, you would have not

1245
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 3>traded for David Montgomery and drafted by So I think

1246
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that is a bunch of coach nonsense.

1247
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Outside the top forty eight, so these are your fifth

1248
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 2>running backs, there's plenty of guys. I think one guy

1249
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>that is being pretty under ranked here is our il

1250
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty and that's Alvin Kamara. I think Seally completely agrees

1251
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 2>on this, and he kind of pinpointed this you know,

1252
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Kamara looks like he I think he might have even

1253
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 2>likened Kamara to like the situation with Kenny Gainwell, Like

1254
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 2>why is Kenny Gainwell being ranked into the thirties when

1255
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a guy like Alvin Kamara looks like he's going to

1256
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 2>play a similar role. We know what he does in

1257
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 2>the passing game. Now. If he's hurt, he's hurt. But

1258
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:41.960
<v Speaker 2>there's some interesting names here. You've got Kamara fifty four,

1259
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.079
<v Speaker 2>so you maybe don't agree. I got him at forty seven.

1260
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Emmitt Johnson seems like a good dart throw excuse me.

1261
00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>In the fifties. Keaton Mitchell is kind of a popular

1262
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.480
<v Speaker 2>one as well. We got a couple other guys in here,

1263
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:55.559
<v Speaker 2>but talk about Kamara and then are there any other

1264
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>deeper running backs that you're into.

1265
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I think Kamara is a tough case because we thought

1266
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I thought so, I won't use the royal wee, but

1267
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought that this whole time. Yeah, Kamara is probably

1268
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 3>just gonna be a cut And then he you know,

1269
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 3>restructured his contract and decided he wanted to stay in

1270
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 3>New Orleans. I didn't think that was ever gonna happen.

1271
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 3>I I thought he was gonna get cut. I was

1272
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 3>hoping he can go to somewhere with you know, a

1273
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 3>week running back situation and maybe be a bigger chunk

1274
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 3>of the offense. But I don't know, man, this offense

1275
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.199
<v Speaker 3>is changing a lot, right, So you brought Travis etchin

1276
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:35.599
<v Speaker 3>in here, you added Jordan Tyson. I think that that's

1277
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot of touches that go away from everybody else

1278
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 3>from last year. And I think Kamara is in RB

1279
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.320
<v Speaker 3>two at this point on his own team, which to

1280
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 3>me pushes him down below that RB three or four rings.

1281
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.119
<v Speaker 3>So I'm I'm gonna stick him as an RB five

1282
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:53.239
<v Speaker 3>and there's upside there, And maybe I'm wrong, right, We've been,

1283
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 3>we've been. There have been times where we've thought the

1284
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 3>old guys were dead and they've come back to life

1285
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 3>with with you know, a couple of nice zombie years there.

1286
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that's in the cards for Alvin Kamara this year.

1287
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 3>I just don't really see it any other backs.

1288
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 2>In this late range that you're into. I know you're

1289
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:11.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of an Emma Johnson guy. You come at fifty one.

1290
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Taje Spears is actually the highest of any of these

1291
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 2>you have, So I mean those would kind of stand

1292
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.719
<v Speaker 2>out but is there anybody else you're in the speculative

1293
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 2>market for.

1294
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, those two are really big for me. I

1295
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.760
<v Speaker 3>The rest of this is garbage, man. I really don't

1296
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.880
<v Speaker 3>like Uh, you know, if something happens to Judgenden, Sampson

1297
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 3>is the guy.

1298
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's a lot of.

1299
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Handcuffs after that. That's what Emmanuel Wilson is. James Connor

1300
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.039
<v Speaker 3>might get cut before the season is over. Videll and

1301
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Keaton Mitchell, I you know, that's just a weird situation.

1302
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:45.119
<v Speaker 3>And they're behind Omari and Hampton, who we both are

1303
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.159
<v Speaker 3>higher on, Yeah than ECRs.

1304
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm betting on Keaton Mitchell over Videll. You are Videll

1305
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>over Keaton.

1306
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but really the answer is neither just to yeah

1307
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the answers. You just take Hampton and don't worry about

1308
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 3>this because none are going to work out. I think

1309
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 3>beyond this second guys that I have ranked higher.

1310
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1311
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Look, Isaiah Davis, I think is pushing Braylen Allen for

1312
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 3>that role right behind Breese Hall. They've said they're gonna

1313
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 3>use three You're not using three backs when you have

1314
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.960
<v Speaker 3>bris Hall. That is a bunch of coach nonsense as well.

1315
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I want to believe that, but I don't know.

1316
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 3>It's it's just it's never gonna happen. Breese Hall is

1317
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 3>way better than these guys, so and I like Isaiah

1318
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Davis a lot. He's the guy I would take him

1319
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:27.440
<v Speaker 3>over Braylan Allen. And then k Tron Allen I really

1320
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 3>like because I don't like a lot of what's going

1321
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:33.400
<v Speaker 3>on in Washington right Rashad White is definitely your receiving back.

1322
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 3>What is Bill Crosskey married? Is he your lead back

1323
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 3>or not? Because if he's not your lead back, then

1324
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:41.599
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be a lot of shod White on passing downs.

1325
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 3>And I think k Tron Allen uh is a very

1326
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.480
<v Speaker 3>good he has great vision. Is he's very patient runner,

1327
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 3>like I said, not athletically gifted as some of the

1328
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 3>other guys, even his own teammate Singleton, but he outpaced

1329
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Singleton because he's a better back, so you know. And

1330
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.519
<v Speaker 3>then my favorite handcuff is the rookie Mike Washington. But

1331
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really excited about the rest of these backs.

1332
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 2>It does fall off.

1333
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:06.599
<v Speaker 3>I j spears a little bit of excitement just because

1334
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in Singleton.

1335
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just not in a world anymore where we

1336
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>play like big crazy handcuffs, you know, I did. I

1337
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 2>think there's some interesting debates in like the Seattle World

1338
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 2>two that are moving beyond Charbonnay of the Hallanis and

1339
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Wilson's And as mentioned before, if Hampton were to

1340
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 2>go down, I think Keaton Mitchell becomes interesting. But we

1341
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 2>just don't play the handcuff world enough, Like the ones

1342
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that you're really jumping into are like if you want

1343
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 2>to handcuff Jon you know, and you want to do

1344
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Bryan Robinson, but still we don't play the handcuff. So

1345
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 2>let's take a look at forty eight to thirty seven.

1346
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Give me two backs in that range that are your

1347
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 2>targets for I'm sorry where we're going. We're going to

1348
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven, so this is that last you don't you

1349
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want to live in this deep tier. So the

1350
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 2>ranked thirty seven through forty eight, the IL rank two

1351
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 2>backs that you are targeting.

1352
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Coleman, Uh, definitely, I'm taking him at the end everywhere.

1353
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And I'll say Gainwell. I think Gainwell provides more than expected.

1354
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, as boring as it is, thirty seven to thirty

1355
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.880
<v Speaker 2>eight or Mine Dobbins and Brooks. If I had to

1356
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:13.719
<v Speaker 2>pick another proba Chris Rodriguez, I think Chris Rodriguez is

1357
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a good value ECR forty six. I can get him

1358
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.079
<v Speaker 2>at I have him, or actually it's forty three. I

1359
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:20.840
<v Speaker 2>have him at forty three. You're just a lot lower

1360
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 2>on him. So but Dobbins and Brooks will be my names.

1361
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:26.119
<v Speaker 3>I want to mention one other guy before we wrap

1362
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:28.760
<v Speaker 3>it up here, Demon Claiborne at fifty eight I have

1363
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and this is this is what you know. You mentioned

1364
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 3>about Jordan Mason being a one trick pony and Aaron

1365
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Jones being old, those are both true. So Demon Claiborne

1366
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.639
<v Speaker 3>is like a dart throw with your very last pick.

1367
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I think if Kyler opens up this offense, they had

1368
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 3>more eight man boxes than they have ever had under

1369
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Kevin O'Connell because they had such terrible quarterback play. They

1370
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.880
<v Speaker 3>had to run the ball more, which led to injuries.

1371
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Let Jordan Mason be ineffective all this stuff. Mason may

1372
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.159
<v Speaker 3>open this up like he may be the guy, the

1373
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 3>main guy to score touchdowns. But I think Claiborne fits

1374
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.199
<v Speaker 3>very well here, and that's why they drafted him. So

1375
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Claiborne is my last round flyer. If you need a

1376
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 3>running back at the very.

1377
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.719
<v Speaker 2>End, okay, and then going to thirty six to twenty five,

1378
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.239
<v Speaker 2>this is like the you know RB three flex type

1379
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.159
<v Speaker 2>of guy. Two names that are your targets.

1380
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Uh well, Jenarian Price for sure is definitely my guy.

1381
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.639
<v Speaker 3>And then I would probably say, you know, I get

1382
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:26.519
<v Speaker 3>the light leaning Jalen Warren, I'll say Jalen Warren.

1383
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. I think Tony Pollard probably Pollard and

1384
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.599
<v Speaker 2>as hate as it is Reminder Stevenson, I think Reminder

1385
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 2>is just a cheap guy that his ECR twenty nine.

1386
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes he falls further down. But Tony Pollard

1387
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 2>is really the other one. I gotta be honest with you.

1388
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't like a lot of these names. This is

1389
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 2>not my range.

1390
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Like I would like Price, though you got him in

1391
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 3>the same range as I just.

1392
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want to say him Like Price and Tooton would

1393
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 2>be guys you already said Price. Those would be ones

1394
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I target. I just don't know if I'm gonna get

1395
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Price, but Tony Pollard is one I'm

1396
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna like actively try to get. I'm a little bit higher.

1397
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 2>And those are the running running backs. Those are the

1398
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 2>our running backs. The I tail running, but the running

1399
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>running backs, that's.

1400
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Who they are on These are the wide wide receivers.

1401
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, quarterbacks, we couldn't really the quarter quarterbacks, the throwing quarterbacks.

1402
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 2>These are the guys that throw the ball, that's right.

1403
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.880
<v Speaker 2>These are our running backs going fifty plus deep. You

1404
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 2>can check out the ranks over it in this league

1405
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.639
<v Speaker 2>dot com. You can see where we've got them. You

1406
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 2>can also check Bogwin's got his different tiers. If you're

1407
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.159
<v Speaker 2>looking at like IDP or your dynasty I mean dynasty

1408
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:34.920
<v Speaker 2>conversations open this way up. But that kind of gives

1409
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you a perspective. Is in the last episode, we also

1410
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.119
<v Speaker 2>gave you some of our targets and what do our

1411
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 2>running back rooms end up looking like. We end up

1412
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:43.880
<v Speaker 2>putting those down in some of the mock drafts, and

1413
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 2>that's what we will do. You'll see what some of

1414
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.400
<v Speaker 2>those rooms look like. So if you want to be

1415
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:48.840
<v Speaker 2>a part of mock drafts, you want to check out

1416
01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>the ranks in this league dot com sports boys in

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01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 2>this league dot com Wide receivers coming up next week

1418
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 2>and bogmin I got to get together, but we got

1419
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to probably maybe even get a bonus episode. We got

1420
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to get a mock draft in there, so we can't

1421
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 2>go too long without mock draft, so we'll see how

1422
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that ends up working up. But wide receivers in the

1423
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.280
<v Speaker 2>same kind of realm of what we did here high

1424
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 2>end wide receivers to start, and then it'll be kind

1425
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 2>of your back end probably like I don't know if

1426
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:15.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll get wide receiver threes in the first episode, but

1427
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it might be wide receiver ones and twos, and then

1428
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.679
<v Speaker 2>this will be like three fours fives in the second episode,

1429
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 2>as we will full coverage there, looking at some of

1430
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 2>the fantasy projections, some of the rank projections, and then

1431
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 2>what itl ends up putting together. That's going to do it.

1432
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 2>That's it. We got through the RBS. We did it.

1433
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Follow us on Twitter. Is it the Welsh Bogmin Sports.

1434
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Make sure you're subscribed on the podcast. We appreciate you

1435
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 2>guys doing that, otherwise I'll talk to you on the

1436
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.440
<v Speaker 2>next episode. For wide receiver ranks, it's Bogman, it's Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out of here.