1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to dpeakclendarshow dot com make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet, 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,559 And again, thank you so much for your support. We've 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,600 been talking about, obviously the winter weather that is moving 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,200 through the region. I'm also seeing reports of just like 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,920 ridiculously long lines in western North Carolina to get propane 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,600 for people to heat their temporary dwellings and such and 14 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:49,359 their homes. I'm not really sure what's going on there, 15 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:51,679 but it's still pretty bad out there, and you've heard 16 00:00:51,679 --> 00:00:55,840 a lot, I'm sure about I forty. You've seen the 17 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:59,439 I'm sure by now right months later, still not open 18 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,200 because of the rockslides and the landslides, or as the 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,239 engineers would call it, total slope failure that took out 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,079 I forty, and I came across a piece over at 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,760 the website business NC dot com Business North Carolina BUSINESSNC 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,319 dot com and it was written by Matthew Isisley. He's 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:26,200 a veteran North Carolina journalist. He's been in communications, he's 24 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:29,400 a communications manager. He's been a consultant for like fifteen years. 25 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,519 He's a native of Iredell County and a graduate of 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,000 UNC Chapel Hill, and he joins us now to talk 27 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,840 about this piece that he penned for BUSINESSNC dot com 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,319 called North Carolina should re route I forty into Tennessee. Matthew, 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,840 welcome to the show, sir, appreciate you making time Hillip Pete. 30 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:50,599 Speaker 3: I'm a faithful native. As you mentioned, I grew up 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,480 with in WBTM. Devided to be on your show. 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, even better, even better, Welcome home, Welcome home. 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,799 So first off, why write like what about I forty 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:07,200 and its history of problems inspired you to take a 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,000 look at this and even write something like this. 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had long interest in transportation issues. I covered 37 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:16,560 them as a reporter years ago. I've been involved in 38 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:19,520 it as a consultant over the year since. I'm also 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,919 just a map nut, to be honest with Epee, and 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,319 I've covered natural disasters before and often after a terrible 41 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:29,680 one like what we've had with Hurricane Helen the federal 42 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:31,759 government and say, government will take a look and see 43 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,919 when we rebuild, can they rebuild things better? And it 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,039 doesn't happen often, but sometimes major changes are made because 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,360 eventually I realized this place is going to keep flooding, 46 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:44,759 this bridge is going to keep getting washed out, and 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,639 so you relocate when you need to. And I think 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,120 this is a case where we should at least study 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,800 the possibility of relocating I forty where it really should 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,080 have been built to begin with, which is not through 51 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:59,319 the very rugged, steep, inaccessible Pigeon River Gorge, but rather 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,960 to their French Broad River, where we already had a 53 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:04,680 US Highway twenty five. It's a much more natural route 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,240 to get from North Carolina into Tennessee. 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,199 Speaker 2: You called it in your piece a shattered monument to 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,199 hubrious and obstinacy. 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,159 Speaker 1: Why why did you define it like that? 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Planning for the highway began in the late forties 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,199 and the fifties. It was debated for years which are 60 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:26,000 the two routes to take, but interestingly was never studied 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,800 very carefully, and reporting at the time made pretty clear 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,759 that the decision was more political than an inhering driven decision. 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,240 At the time, Haywood County, through which part of this 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,159 highway passes, didn't have much highway access. They need economic 65 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:44,240 development and they desperately wanted I forty. They wound up 66 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:46,520 getting it. Since then, they've had a lot of growth. 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,159 Another highway, the Great Smooking Mountin Expressway, is in place 68 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:55,400 to the southwest through Haywood. So the decision probably was 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,000 not made as well as it could have been at 70 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:01,439 the time. And it's not easy that roads. But my 71 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:04,759 argument is we should have not built it there in 72 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:06,599 the first place. We're gonna have to keep rebuilding it, 73 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:09,639 and this happens every few years. Peep, Yeah, rockslide closes 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,960 the highway. So or we're gonna keep throwing good money 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,599 after bad, or we're just going to bite the bullet 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,319 and put it where we should have built it in 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,600 the first place. And I mentioned humors because when the 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,839 highway opened Pete in nineteen sixty eight, same year I 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,879 appeared the governor at the time, it took ten years 80 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:29,000 to build this roads in the mountains, and the governor said, poorly. 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,360 The genius of modern man has shown itself to be 82 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:35,920 superior to the adversities of nature. Four months later, the 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,399 first rock slide closed the highway and it's been happening 84 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:41,120 ever since. So I think nature has been laughing at 85 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:42,680 us for sixty years, right, So. 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: We tempted it, and it showed us who's actually in charge. 87 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: And that's true. 88 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: I worked in Nashville for about eight years and it 89 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:55,879 was a regular occurrence. Regularly we would have to in 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,560 the traffic updates, we would have to say, yeah, you're 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,480 gonna have to go through this alternate route all the 92 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:04,160 way around whatever this portion because some rocks came tumbling down. Now, 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,279 they did put up the netting, right, they try to 94 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,519 catch all the rocks, so they don't, you know, squash 95 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:15,519 cars on the highway and such. But it doesn't seem 96 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,800 like a long term fix. It like it looks more 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,680 and more just like they're putting band aids on a problem. 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,519 And to your point here, it probably never should have 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,519 been built there in the first place. But I could 100 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,879 understand why if, like you, you know, if it's an 101 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:32,800 economic development gateway basically, right, it's a way to get 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,199 to get stuff into a county that's that's cut off. 103 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:39,879 I understand why that decision gets made. Right, People act 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,079 kind of rationally like that. 105 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and my piece doesn't ridly kill the decision. We 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,800 know as much then as we do now about geology. 107 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:52,759 And my pop ed quotes an engineer retires to highway 108 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:56,079 engineer who after yet another long closure in two thousand 109 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:58,319 and nine, said, you know, if we had known then 110 00:05:58,399 --> 00:05:59,839 what we know now, we never would have tried to 111 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 old this highway there. Would put it somewhere else. And 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,600 I think that better place is probably somewhere on the 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 French broad US twenty five corridor. 114 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Right Well, yeah, I thought, and you made a reference here, 115 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:15,199 and that was a shocking thing to hear this retired 116 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,000 engineer say that it wouldn't be built there nowadays, which 117 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,720 is It's one of the things, like I understand, and 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 I'm not critical of people when they make decisions with 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,399 the best information they've. 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Got available at that time. 121 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: I don't hold them to a modern standard if you've 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,439 got greater abilities now, right So, because it doesn't there's 123 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,680 no value in doing that, but there is a value 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,279 in identifying that, like that information is now outdated, there's 125 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,160 a better way to do this, that we should look 126 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,319 to do it this way now. And you mentioned in 127 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,079 one of your comments here, every choice is a tradeoff, 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,120 and I was reminded of the Thomas soul line, right, 129 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 there are no solutions, only trade offs. So there are 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,040 going to be tradeoffs here. So what would those be 131 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,079 if they were too, if they were too seriously look 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,959 at and then maybe even do this realignment? What would 133 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:09,480 those trade offs be for this other location along the 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,360 French broad As you. 135 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Say, yeah, and there certainly our trade offs, and as 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,519 my piece noted, it would take a lot of time 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,639 and a lot of money to make this happen. But 138 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:21,680 I think that's all the more reason to get started 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,879 looking at it now. But there are always are trade offs. 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,639 And I've got some mixed reaction from locals. There's a 141 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:31,360 political analyst you might know in Charlotte, Andrew Donne, who 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,199 said he thinks this is exactly the kind of thing 143 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 the government should think about more often. Let's just not 144 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:40,199 keep doing the same thing the same way. The mayor 145 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,639 of Weaverville told me he thought it was a good argument. 146 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,519 He wondered whether local politics would once again prevent the 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,439 highway from being put in the right place or heard 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,079 from the tourism director in Hot Springs is concerned about 149 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,839 the potential impacts of noise and other things on that town. 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,920 So the tourism small town that thrives off tourism, and 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,199 I think that's a illegitimate, legitimate concern. You wouldn't want 152 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:06,199 to ruin the towns along the US twenty five route, 153 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:09,480 of course, I think. I assume I'm not an highway engineer, 154 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:12,600 but those who are could figure out how to bypass 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,240 around the towns. We do this all the time all 156 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:16,519 over the state, all over America. Should be able to 157 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,399 build an interstate that's around the town. Certainly doesn't plow 158 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:25,399 right through the town, but that arguably could improve increased tourism, 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,360 become development for them. But I think, taking a step back, 160 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:31,360 it's really important to keep in mind this is not 161 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:34,320 just a matter of annoyance for local drivers. This is 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,559 a major federal interstate highway route. Commerce depends on it, 163 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:42,320 National defense could depend on it one day, and in 164 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,279 all to work, we shouldn't have to face the closure 165 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:45,879 lasting months every few years. 166 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: It's also super dangerous. 167 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,879 Speaker 3: Sure is, Yeah, Yeah, people have died their pet from 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,200 rock slides. It also gets quite foggy there. Frequently you 169 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,200 have these big pile up wrecks. At least two state 170 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,480 troopers have lost their lives simply having pulled someone over 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,080 for speeding through this dangerous, twisty route and getting a 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,480 run over by trucks. It's not a safe place to drive. 173 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, before we let you go, you mentioned 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,080 that the sunk cost fallacy and the status quo bias 175 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,600 to keep throwing good taxpayer money after bad indefinitely is 176 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:26,320 a prime example of the sunk cost fallacy and the 177 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,240 status quo bias. 178 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: So what are those? 179 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: So they're related, They're different, but related, and you know 180 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,919 we're all prone to them. The sunk cost out seas 181 00:09:34,039 --> 00:09:37,000 I've already I've been put money, time, extra time into 182 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,480 this project, whatever it is, your home improvement, your car, 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,639 a highway, a war. Some people refer to as the 184 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Vietnam syndrome. Since we silver invested so far in it, 185 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,639 we can't bail from it. But in the business world, 186 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,360 people know sometimes exactly what you should do if you're losing, 187 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,200 stop the losses, move on to another option and a 188 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,440 better choice. And the status quo bias is also something 189 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,879 we all probably share, which is, you know we're used 190 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:07,039 to it. Change is hard, inertia is hard to overcome, 191 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:10,480 and let's just don't worry about doing what's hard, even 192 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,039 though what's hard might be what is right and wise 193 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,159 in the long term. 194 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 195 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:16,759 Speaker 2: No, I remember getting calls when I was up in 196 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,919 Ashville from people who remembered some of these problems going 197 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,840 back decades, and they were like, it never should have 198 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,399 been built here. I think they say the same thing. 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Also about two seventy seven or not two eighty five. 200 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:31,200 I think right, the bye or the one that goes 201 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:35,200 right through downtown Ashville. Always get the numbers confused with Charlotte's. 202 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's it. Yeah, these are hard decisions. Yeah, 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,320 not easy thing, but well I at least start thinking 204 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,240 about it and studying it. 205 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because two forty is such a mess. 206 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:46,919 Speaker 2: And they did that because they wanted people to get 207 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:49,320 off the interstate and go into downtown. And I guess 208 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,919 they figured if everyone's stuck in a traffic jam on 209 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:54,480 two forty, they'll. 210 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Want to get off the interstate. 211 00:10:55,039 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: But it's like, that's not the point of a bypass, right, 212 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:59,039 It's not to send you through the downtown. 213 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: But that was the thinking at the time. 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: Again, Well, if you can look at what's the sale 215 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:04,840 and green, A lot of iays that were designed nineteen 216 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,559 fifties just don't work well for us anymore. We should 217 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,960 just accept that and do better as we rebuild. 218 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, it's great stuff. 219 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: You can read the entire piece, which I recommend people 220 00:11:14,159 --> 00:11:17,519 do at business NC dot com. Matthew Eisley is the 221 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,799 author of the off Ed. He's a former North Carolina 222 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:23,120 journalist and a comms manager and consultant. Appreciate your time, sir, 223 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:25,679 thanks so much, and enjoy the snow if you. 224 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Get it all right, you too, take care? All right? 225 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,440 That's Matthew Issley. 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,399 Speaker 2: Here's a great idea. 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We be re routing I forty 252 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:05,759 in the western part of the state right because if 253 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:08,759 you're going into Tennessee, I forty gets shut down. And 254 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:10,080 by the way, have you ever had to do the 255 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,279 detour around an I forty closure. 256 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,159 Speaker 1: It's awful. It's just awful. 257 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: So and it's a major route, right because it goes 258 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,799 from the east coast all the way to the west coast, 259 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:32,399 so it's a major shipping trucking lane. I don't know, 260 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:36,919 like it it makes sense to me. I've talked about 261 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,360 this in various respects. One of them is, you know, 262 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:44,480 I remember talking years ago when Dan Forrest was the 263 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,720 lieutenant governor and one of the things he was doing, 264 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:50,679 because you know, the lieutenant governor in the state of 265 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,639 North Carolina is a very limited power position, and you 266 00:13:55,759 --> 00:13:58,120 kind of make it. You kind of pick and choose 267 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:01,039 some issues that you want to highlight and you want 268 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,559 to try to address somehow, but you got to work 269 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,240 with the legislature and all that. But one of the 270 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,039 things he was looking at was sort of like a 271 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:10,279 it was like a precursor to doge right. But one 272 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:13,759 of them was can we find efficiencies in state government? 273 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:15,799 And one of the things that he had said at 274 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,720 the time was if we were building state government today, 275 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,159 it would look a lot different than it does now. 276 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,799 Just the buildings alone, right, I mean, just think of it. 277 00:14:29,679 --> 00:14:32,519 Do you need all of the buildings, and do the 278 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:38,080 buildings today meet the needs of what the services and 279 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:41,200 operations are within them? Or is it just like this 280 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:45,759 constant retrofitting and retrofitting and trying to fill the space 281 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,159 and move programs and departments and all of this. Would 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,240 you build it differently today? Absolutely, well, then why not 283 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,279 look at rebuilding it in that better way? Another one, 284 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:04,639 another example telephone lines. Right, you have greater wireless penetration 285 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,559 or not wireless, sorry, it's it was greater satellite television 286 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:14,919 penetration in certain areas of quote unquote third world or 287 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,279 second World countries than in parts of America. 288 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:20,519 Speaker 1: Same thing happened with with cable lines. 289 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:25,399 Speaker 2: There are more, there's more cable runs done in other countries. 290 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Cell Phone service is another example of it, where in 291 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:32,320 the UH they call it leapfrogging. In the technological space 292 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,519 they call it leapfrogging where a society that doesn't have 293 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:38,600 like a telephone line network that's built up like we 294 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:41,039 do in America, where they were running telephone poles and 295 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,480 lines all over the place, and other societies couldn't afford 296 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,559 to do all of that, so they just did without 297 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,799 telephones until the technology doesn't require all the poles, and 298 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,320 then they leapfrog over us and they have a much 299 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,120 more efficient system because it's all modern. They can now 300 00:15:57,159 --> 00:16:00,519 afford this modern technology and they don't have all the 301 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:03,120 telephone polls everywhere anyway. It's just one example, So to 302 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,240 rethink I forty where it is currently located. Given all 303 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,720 the problems that that road has because of where they 304 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:13,759 built it, I think it should be looked at. 305 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: All. 306 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:17,159 Speaker 2: Right, I hope you had a happy holiday season. But 307 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,600 tell me if something like this happened at your house. 308 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:22,480 Your family and friends are gathered around. Maybe y'all are 309 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,039 in the living room, You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and 310 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,919 then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? 311 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,600 Did you ever get them transferred? And then the room 312 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,440 gets all quiet. 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Due to the decade long 332 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:04,039 decay in newsrooms staffing levels across America, we no longer 333 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:08,440 have the once massive number of reporters to dispatch out 334 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:17,359 into various climactic catastrophes. So, after much thought and planning 335 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,880 and brainstorming over the course of about two minutes, I 336 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:31,799 came up with a solution. It is Operation Snowman on 337 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:40,039 the Street or snow person, if you will, Because when 338 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:41,799 you go out as a reporter, and you stick a 339 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:45,440 microphone in just some rando's face. We call that in 340 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:49,680 the biz a man on the street interview. I'm going 341 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:51,000 to go up to you and I'm going to ask 342 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:53,319 you a question about something, and You're going to say something, 343 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,000 probably pretty stupid, and I'm going to put it on 344 00:18:56,079 --> 00:18:58,880 my newscast and it's going to fill the news hole. 345 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:03,160 And that's really the only point. Got to fill the newshole. 346 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,400 So that's how the man on the street. But now 347 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,599 they can't say. We would use the term MOS, and 348 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,519 then you would compile a whole bunch of these little 349 00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:17,720 clips together. You'd have a montage of MOS. And so 350 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:20,160 you know, Pete Callner is out on the street talking 351 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,640 to people about what they think about the arena deal 352 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,880 for example, actual example, and I'm for it, I'm against it, 353 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,960 blah blah blah whatever, Okay, And it just fills up time. 354 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,880 That's the point, because it's not a scientific study, right, 355 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,039 it's not an official survey, so it doesn't actually do 356 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,039 anything except tell us that some people think some things. 357 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 358 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: So they called it MOS, and then of course you 359 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,400 couldn't call it mos, so then they started calling it 360 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,720 person on the street. So then we started calling it 361 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:54,319 a pos but you really can't call it that because 362 00:19:54,359 --> 00:20:00,079 that means something else. So I have decided, and I 363 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,799 I rolled this out a few years ago up in 364 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:06,200 the mountains when we got a pretty hefty snowstorm up 365 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,559 there at the time, and we created essentially the largest 366 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:18,480 news operation Western North Carolina had ever seen. So I 367 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,960 figure we can do the same here and I don't 368 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,960 have to pay you. That's the key, right, The goal, 369 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,400 as always is to build the biggest reporting core, or 370 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,960 if you're Barack Obama corpse, the biggest reporting core that 371 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,279 North Carolina has ever seen. Just during my show. Okay, 372 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,559 so this is where you come in, because obviously I 373 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:46,039 can't go out onto the street and do all of 374 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:50,960 the reporting. So I, through the powers vested in me 375 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:57,880 by nobody, would deputize you to be a reporter for 376 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:06,200 the operation that we are calling snow Man on the street. Okay, 377 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920 all right, it's a razor right or left hand, it 378 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:15,559 doesn't matter, and just say I agree, okay, good, And 379 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,160 so now you're deputized. You now have all the requisite 380 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,960 training and authority to file a report of what you 381 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,519 are seeing to help us avoid getting flustrated by the weather. 382 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,720 To borrow a word from our dear, fearless and scandal 383 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:38,200 ridden sheriff. We don't want to get frustrated. So now 384 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,200 you're a deputy. You will now be a temporary unpaid 385 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:52,519 intern basically reporter with no credits for WBT. Now there 386 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:57,680 are some requirements you can call in with a report on, 387 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:01,640 like these are some ideas road conditions, snowfall. 388 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Total which let me look out the okay, which. 389 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,759 Speaker 2: Right now would be zero, So you don't need to 390 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:08,319 call in with a snowfall total. Okay, but maybe as 391 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,319 the snow proceeds, then you're gonna have some stuff to report. 392 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 393 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: Have you seen some newsworthy snow related event? Maybe some 394 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,319 gnat sound? Everybody loves that sound in the biz. I'm 395 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:22,240 gonna tell you that sound like like a chainsaw, Like 396 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:24,240 if you can get a chainsaw going, like we're cutting 397 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:25,920 down some trees. You know what I'm talking about. You 398 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,920 always hear the chainsaw running in all of the gnat 399 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,720 sound pieces. After a hurricane or any kind of natural disaster, 400 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:32,640 you always hear the chainsaws, right, Or how about the 401 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:36,160 crunching underfoot of the snow something like that. 402 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: That sound. Everybody loves news. Directors love that sound. 403 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,759 Speaker 2: Okay, so road conditions, whatever, whatever you want to talk about, 404 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:47,119 whatever the report is, I'm not trying to limit your creativity. 405 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,319 We just go where the news takes us. Right now, 406 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:53,519 there are some these are the requirements. Now require two things. 407 00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:56,519 When I throw it to you, I'm gonna go out. 408 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:01,680 I'm gonna say, like, we're gonna go to you in 409 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,200 the field. Oh I Actually we need to know where 410 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,839 they're from, because I need to know where they're going 411 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,119 to be reporting from. We usually I usually don't care 412 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,599 where you're calling from. Like some people will be like 413 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,839 so and so in you know, Fort Mill or whatever, 414 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,279 but it doesn't ever really matter to me unless it's 415 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:21,799 something that is very specifically for like this, right, so, 416 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,559 tell us where you are. Tell Steve the colscreener where 417 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,920 you are, and then I will throw it to you. 418 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,079 I'm going to throw it to you, and I'm going 419 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,559 to ask you the first and the only, the most 420 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,440 important question that any reporter ever asks in any situation, 421 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:37,079 which is. 422 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,039 Speaker 1: What's the mood? What's the mood? What's the mood? That's 423 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:44,559 the question. 424 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: So you're going to start your report answering that question 425 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:51,200 of what's the mood? All right, And here's the other requirement. 426 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,480 When you are done, you've got to say back to 427 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:56,720 you Pete. 428 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,799 Speaker 1: Otherwise I won't know when you're done. Okay, So you 429 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:00,640 say back to you, Pete. Now I may follow up 430 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,519 with a question or something. 431 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,039 Speaker 2: And if I do follow up with a question, it 432 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,839 is also imperative that you say, great question, Pte, Great question, 433 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000 p Now. You can use whatever inflection you want, but 434 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:14,400 like that, you gotta say great question because a lot 435 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,039 of times that stuff is scripted, by the way, a 436 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,920 little peak behind the curtain there. Anyway, if I ask 437 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,440 a question'll be great question. But you got to say 438 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,480 back to you Pete. 439 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: All right. So those are the two requirements. 440 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,039 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you what's the mood, and then you're 441 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,039 gonna lock it out after you give me your report, 442 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,839 then you're gonna say back to you, Pete. 443 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:36,319 Speaker 1: This is Operation Snowman on the Street. 444 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: All right. 445 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,039 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 446 00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:40,839 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 447 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,960 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 448 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,200 say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,920 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 450 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,240 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 462 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,079 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 463 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,559 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 464 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:38,599 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 465 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,200 as they make the media landscape more transparent. Operation snow 466 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:48,559 Man on the Street. We shall now go to our 467 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:53,319 first reporter live. It is Susan in Morganton. Susan, what's 468 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:53,720 the mood? 469 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: Parting from the foothills of western North Carolina. 470 00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 6: Mortons in North Carolina. 471 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,519 Speaker 3: Heavy snow and breaking for twenty twenty five blizzard. 472 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: Back to you, Pete, compelling and rich. 473 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,319 Speaker 2: Thank you, Susan. Next up and continuing coverage. The team 474 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:16,799 is out. This is in Union County. John has this report. John, 475 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,000 what can you tell us? 476 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: What's the mood? 477 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: Think? We're reporting a lot from you in Indian Trail 478 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,160 in the Union County. I got to tell you the mood. 479 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,240 At first, it seemed to be sheer panic among the people. However, 480 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,039 as we're moving through this storm, I think I sense 481 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,720 some cautious optimism that we're going to there. They're gonna 482 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:40,319 survive this, and they're going to rebuild and come out 483 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:47,799 of this stronger than before. Right now, approximately one frozen 484 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,640 participat drop of I would call it maybe sleep is 485 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,400 hitting my windshield about every thirty seconds, So obviously it's 486 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,160 about to really come down. 487 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: Back to you, Pete, John, stay safe, sir, stay safe, 488 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,000 don't take any unnecessary chances. That's a truly inspiring story though, 489 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440 of overcoming adversity. 490 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 491 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,519 Speaker 2: John at live report from Union County as part of 492 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,400 Operation Snowman on the Street. 493 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Here next up Ray in Clover, Ray, what's the mood? 494 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:27,559 Speaker 5: Hello, This is a weather report from Ray the snowman 495 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,319 in Clover, South Carolina. 496 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 6: Right now, there's like previous scholar, there's a drop every 497 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,839 once in a while, about thirty seconds on the windshield. 498 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,759 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, And that's all we got going on. 499 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,079 Speaker 3: And why it's this miter because you won't have to 500 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:45,960 put your snow tires or your chains on. 501 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: That's that is some very valuable information. Ray, we appreciated. 502 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,079 Stay safe out there on the roads. 503 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: Yes. Next up, we've got. 504 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,599 Speaker 2: This report from Bill oh in Fort Mill. Bill, what 505 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,480 can you tell us? What's the mood? 506 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,599 Speaker 5: Where's where's my producer? 507 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 6: Where where? 508 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,319 Speaker 5: Just forget it? Forget it. 509 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: We'll do it live. 510 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 4: We'll do it live. 511 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,079 Speaker 1: Just forget it, all right? 512 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:19,799 Speaker 3: All right? 513 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Bill is? 514 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't know something's happening with Bill there in Fort Mill. 515 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,079 I'm not really sure if And I will just let 516 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 him work out that. It was a compelling and rich story. 517 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,519 We appreciate the live update. I do have some information. 518 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,640 The National Weather Service said Meckleberg County could see up 519 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,839 to one point five inches of snow in some areas today, 520 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,160 as well as the sleet and the freezing rain. The 521 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,039 AKA also known as the wintry mix or as I 522 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,480 call it Satan slush. Yeah, that would be Charlotte's first 523 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640 measurable snow in three years, I believe. Al Conklin from 524 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,880 down the hall of WBTV Chief Meteorologist, he said, it's 525 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,720 been in one thousand and seventy seven days since the 526 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:03,920 last snowfall. 527 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:06,119 Speaker 1: And then he said, not like we're counting, but I 528 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,079 kind of feel like he was. 529 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,079 Speaker 2: Counting, because I don't know how you come up with 530 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:17,680 that number otherwise if you're not counting, right, Terry live 531 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,240 in Gastonia, Terry, what's the mood is. 532 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: Coming to you? 533 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: Live from First Methodist Church in Gastonia, North Carolina. 534 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: There is no milk and bread at food line. 535 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 6: Repeat, no milk and bread at food line. 536 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:34,039 Speaker 5: Outside of that, the mood is positive. 537 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: Traffic is flowing, the blizzard is coming down. Live back 538 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,319 to you, Pete. 539 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: Gosh, that's some good information. We appreciate it. Stay safe 540 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,200 out there, Terry. Compelling and rich. 541 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: As they say. Jamie in Waxhaw, Jamie, what's the moody? 542 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,119 Speaker 6: Pet I got breaking news. There is still firewood at 543 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,559 the local lows h and there is I would say 544 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:07,160 twelve to fifteen flakes at least per mile as opposed 545 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,720 to Clover and Indian Trail. 546 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Jamie, are you talking about people or actual snowflakes? 547 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 6: Snowflakes? Snow flakes, Pete? Sorry, sorry, bout. And to add 548 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,799 the three local police advocates are on the street tonight. 549 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:29,319 They're patrolling keeping the proud residents of Wlaxaw safe. And 550 00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,599 the mood is reassuring. Is really the only way. 551 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: To describe it? 552 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: And what do you say to close out the to 553 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,720 close out the report? 554 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: And this is Jamie reporting live from you on Highway 555 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,920 sixteen in the beautiful city of Blacksmith. 556 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,519 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Jamie. I appreciate it. 557 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: He's supposed to say back to up, but I'd like, 558 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,599 I don't know what if it's not on the teleprompter, man, Like, 559 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920 I don't know what I'm supposed to do. That's a 560 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,599 good report, Jamie. Let's head over to Mike and Huntersville. Mike, 561 00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:02,559 what's the mood? 562 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: This is a breaking new story, Pete. I was just 563 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,480 out going to the local ABC store and I saw 564 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,920 a drop of water hit my windshield. I didn't know 565 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,160 what to do, but but I was able to pull over. 566 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:21,680 I made it to the store and they had eagle 567 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:26,640 rare so this is a compelling story, so back to you, Pete. 568 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,519 Speaker 1: That is compelling and rich. 569 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: That's I feel like, I mean, such vivid detail there 570 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,799 in the way Mike told that story. Let's head up 571 00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,440 to the University area. Donna, what's the mood? 572 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,319 Speaker 4: Donna, Hey, Pete, this is Donna from the University Area 573 00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,440 in Charlotte. The mood is prepared. 574 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: I just passed the PNC Amphitheater and it looks like 575 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,720 they're stage. 576 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,119 Speaker 5: In some line trucks that do not appear to be 577 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,119 Duke power ones. 578 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 4: And the Walmart neighborhood. 579 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,799 Speaker 3: Walmart has no budgies. 580 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:07,119 Speaker 2: Back to you, Pete, thank you Joanna or Donna. Rather, 581 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880 I appreciate that information. I appreciate that report. I feel 582 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,319 like we all learned something from that. All right, that'll 583 00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,000 do it for this episode. 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