Speaker 1: Uh, what's up, Patreon beautiful Patreon listeners.
Speaker 2: It's Love is Blind, the show that it's just showing.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, this show that's showing.
Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you a macro question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say this is I'm gonna I think
Speaker 2: I know the answer, But would you say this has
Speaker 2: been your favorite season? You know what? Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: That is an interesting question that I hadn't really thought
Speaker 1: about it. It started out very strong. It started out
Speaker 1: kind of kind of maybe being my favorite season. It's
Speaker 1: so much has changed and happened, and we'll talk about it,
Speaker 1: and so many unlikable people Like people are likable, but
Speaker 1: there are so many seriously unlikables.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of Like I'm shocked.
Speaker 2: I have to say, Macro, because now we've completed through twelve,
Speaker 2: we're caught up. Yes, I am shocked that they didn't
Speaker 2: bring Leo and what's her face back, Hattie mcguilaicutty. Something
Speaker 2: must have been up. What like we that's a Reddit
Speaker 2: search that's probably an easy find, but we need to
Speaker 2: find we will have that answer and most of you
Speaker 2: guys probably know already, but what the fuck? Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's very weird that they never showed up again, and
Speaker 1: that the people like this is just a little, a
Speaker 1: little fast forward. Macro note most of you guys were
Speaker 1: already caught up with the party that happens, I think
Speaker 1: in episode ten, so we'll get to it actually in
Speaker 1: this episode. But a lot of the people that showed
Speaker 1: up for that are not anybody that we care about
Speaker 1: or remember at all.
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember, And to be fair, we do cover
Speaker 2: multiple shows, as a lot of your podcasts do, so
Speaker 2: sometimes I get confused.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, who's that? Oh, I thought she was
Speaker 3: on a different show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but like for a lot, when we get
Speaker 1: to it, the girl, the girl that Nick apparently originally.
Speaker 3: Like, we don't know who she is. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I kept looking back through my notes. I was like,
Speaker 3: I do not know her because she.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a thing. So it's like, okay, so she's now
Speaker 2: we find out she's Hannah's best friend in the whole world,
Speaker 2: the best friend that's ever friended. And then but like,
Speaker 2: we don't care, and the people we do care about
Speaker 2: that did get camera time are not at the party
Speaker 2: for no reasons that anybody ever explains.
Speaker 3: So that's just bad. Editing, like we just never got her.
Speaker 2: They should have gone back and been like, we should
Speaker 2: show more of her because she's gonna that's going.
Speaker 3: To be a scene, right, fix it? Like what the hell?
Speaker 2: I want to have a I want a word with you, editors,
Speaker 2: like fix that shit. Look, we know you're pumping out
Speaker 2: a lot of content. I couldn't do it, but that
Speaker 2: seems like a big one if there's that's one of
Speaker 2: the only dramatic things that happen in this couple, right
Speaker 2: that she's that Hannah's jealous, Like who's this bitch? Right y? Yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, let's just speed through this a little bit.
Speaker 2: We because I got a lot of pages of notes
Speaker 2: for nine and ten, but let's talk about it for
Speaker 2: those of you that are just at nine and ten.
Speaker 2: We got Oh, I just said, Taylor and Garrett are
Speaker 2: video taping themselves being really cute. They're in the kitchen,
Speaker 2: they're doing wedding planning. Then I have I go to
Speaker 2: Tyler and Ashley on the couch and there are so
Speaker 2: many funny though foreshadowing. Ashley's like I couldn't have asked
Speaker 2: for a better step child. Their dog oops oops, And
Speaker 2: by the way, if you're listening, we're doing nine and
Speaker 2: ten on this episode, and we're putting everything out early.
Speaker 2: We're going to catch you guys up. I think, yes,
Speaker 2: this we like, you're all getting this. You'll we'll be
Speaker 2: all caught up. So if you're concerned about that, it's happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to give you two episodes that cover
Speaker 1: two episodes each.
Speaker 2: This week. Yeah, so we're Catius next week. Yeah, this weekend.
Speaker 2: Next You'll see, you'll see you figure it out. You'll
Speaker 2: see you'll do so. So Hannah continues to be super bossy,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this just isn't gonna work.
Speaker 1: She's first of all, Nick is so scared of her.
Speaker 1: At this point, She's like, you.
Speaker 2: Could help me? Could you boil some pasta?
Speaker 1: So he's like looking in the fringe for the pasta
Speaker 1: and she's like it's in the cupboard and he goes, okay,
Speaker 1: like how do.
Speaker 2: I boil pasta? Like? Do I put it on medium high,
Speaker 2: medium high low? And she goes, I can't believe you
Speaker 2: can't boil pasa.
Speaker 3: Uh So, oh, is this a scene where the brother
Speaker 3: comes over.
Speaker 2: That a different do I have? Yes?
Speaker 1: I know that is the scene, but what I was
Speaker 1: thinking was that Nick is like a scared dog that's
Speaker 1: going to get kicked, So he just doesn't want to
Speaker 1: do it wrong, is the thing.
Speaker 2: He's like, what if I put it on high heat?
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh my god, Nick, stop it with
Speaker 2: the high heat. It's supposed to go on. So he's
Speaker 2: just he's just.
Speaker 3: Checking with her. There's literally nothing he can do right.
Speaker 2: There's something maybe wrong with her, like there's something really
Speaker 2: like she just she doesn't respect him. She didn't respect
Speaker 2: him the day the pods opened, when they met each other,
Speaker 2: She's like, he's so short. Here. She was so worried
Speaker 2: about being judged for being not looking exactly the way
Speaker 2: that she may have described herself looking right, like as
Speaker 2: the cheerleader, as the hot girl, I got the hot guys.
Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh no, but again, two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds during COVID and I've lost most of it,
Speaker 2: Like she didn't say that, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Well, but you know what, I saw a Reddit post
Speaker 1: from her. I saw like an article actually about her,
Speaker 1: and the thing is and like good for her for
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she lost weight and good for her,
Speaker 1: but she did mislead. She basically said that she gained
Speaker 1: I don't know, she gained like seventy five pounds during COVID.
Speaker 1: She did try to make it different than it was.
Speaker 1: And that is not to say that anybody should judge
Speaker 1: anybody for their weight. But what we're saying is, girl,
Speaker 1: you had some imperfections, and now you're saying you fixed
Speaker 1: yourself and you were unhappy and you were binge eating
Speaker 1: and all the things that are super relatable. Of course,
Speaker 1: don't turn around and be a supercus to the guy.
Speaker 2: And so she's like he's so little, Like oh my god, yeah, here,
Speaker 2: that's so hypnocritical. That's exactly my point, right, And so
Speaker 2: she's really mean to him. So the second she doesn't
Speaker 2: think he's like the tall, strapping man that she wants
Speaker 2: or whatever. I think he's very cute. I mean, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't choose him. He's a simple miam. But you know,
Speaker 2: I yeah, she's awful. So the brother comes over and
Speaker 2: has questions. And then does the brother call him a
Speaker 2: bitch boy? Because I have that in quotes? That really
Speaker 2: happened or did I dream that? Well?
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, her brother has like Randy rainbow vibes. Yes,
Speaker 1: very sassy and hilarious, very sassy, and he kind of
Speaker 1: teams up with with a little bit with Nick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's scared of her too. Yeah, so yeah, so
Speaker 2: basically he's sort of protecting her, basically, she says. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She says basically that Hannah's the first person that he
Speaker 2: came out to. Mm hm oh.
Speaker 1: I wrote I was looking for the word bitch, and
Speaker 1: I wrote not sure why because she's a bitch.
Speaker 2: Yes, well she's at this point, so yeah, they're kind
Speaker 2: of teaming up and she's acting like a corrections officer,
Speaker 2: and I just wrote, like, why is she trying to
Speaker 2: be so girl boss when she's just ran an old
Speaker 2: pleather jacket, Like I don't, like, who do you think
Speaker 2: you're not? You're not Beyonce? Like she's just giving that
Speaker 2: girl bod Like I'm just girl boss. I guess girls
Speaker 2: rule the world. We got to take care of it.
Speaker 2: Like then you need to get rid of that jacket. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the but the bro like it's just it's so yeah,
Speaker 2: he did. They were bonding.
Speaker 1: Nick is like, yeah, Hannah, Hannah says mean things. He's like,
Speaker 1: which I can handle. But after like the twentieth time
Speaker 1: of her nagging me, like it gets a little bit tough,
Speaker 1: and the brother goes, yeah, that's the issue I have
Speaker 1: with her, Like and then if she says something mean
Speaker 1: and I come back with something equal, like it's a problem.
Speaker 2: No, she's out of her mind. She then finally gives
Speaker 2: like a compliment whatever. It's like, oh, he's ras into
Speaker 2: the challenge and I just wrote, but should he? Why
Speaker 2: is should there be a challenge? Who are you right? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Okay, So then we go to Taylor.
Speaker 3: Oh did you have more on that?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no no, I was agreeing Taylor and Garrett.
Speaker 2: I just wrote, who cares. I'm trying to see if
Speaker 2: I have any notes? Garrett helped man because mom email
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, so Taylor Taylor. Taylor compliments Garrett because
Speaker 1: she's like, it was so sweet the way you comforted
Speaker 1: Monica when.
Speaker 2: Steven, oh, that's right, left, And Taylor goes, she deserves
Speaker 2: a Garrett and Garrett goes, you deserve a Garrett. They're
Speaker 2: so cute, Okay, but they're really really cute.
Speaker 1: But then Taylor's like, I'm so excited for you to
Speaker 1: move to San diego, and Garrett's like, well about that, Like,
Speaker 1: my mom's not super happy about it.
Speaker 2: And then Taylor.
Speaker 1: Is basically tells Garrett that, like he she really needs
Speaker 1: him to meet her dad, which you know is going
Speaker 1: to come up later because he's not going to come
Speaker 1: on camera and she needs him to be okay with everything.
Speaker 1: And then Garrett's like, yeah, but what if he doesn't
Speaker 1: give permission? And then he starts tearing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so cute, but they're really cute.
Speaker 1: And then he says, if my parents didn't give permission,
Speaker 1: I'd still go through with it because I make my
Speaker 1: own decisions, but I know your parents' opinion is important
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: That's what He's a big bully, that's what Hannah needs.
Speaker 2: She's like, why can't you be a big boy like Garrett?
Speaker 2: A big boy know how to make pasta.
Speaker 1: So Alex and Tim see his apartment and it's very
Speaker 1: very manly, and he's like, this is my man cave
Speaker 1: and there's leather couches and there's you know, it's very
Speaker 1: much a dude's place.
Speaker 3: Totally.
Speaker 2: Like I want to say, I don't remember this exactly,
Speaker 2: but in my memory, it's always like these dudes are
Speaker 2: always painting one wall like a hunter green. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know who told them a hunter green is the
Speaker 2: way to go with their brown leather couches. But it's
Speaker 2: a look there really is. And there's always like why
Speaker 2: don't dudes always have bachelor dudes always have like maps.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about, like a laps
Speaker 2: or I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: I personally do like them. But we had this on a.
Speaker 2: Board a f you know, years ago, where I talked
Speaker 2: about like this is a dude thing they always have that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he had this.
Speaker 2: The bed is not in the middle, like push to
Speaker 2: the your mattress up to the wall. Yeah. On one side,
Speaker 2: that's that you've reserved that for a studio apartment, like
Speaker 2: sometimes we have to do I've done it. We had
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 3: It's a thing. If I live in New York, I'm
Speaker 3: sure i'd have that. You can't.
Speaker 2: But now you have a real room, big boy room.
Speaker 2: Just put it in the middle with a with a
Speaker 2: have at least a box spring. If you don't want
Speaker 2: to frame, agree, agree, You'll get no argument from me.
Speaker 2: Oh so Alex is actually being pretty nice about his place.
Speaker 2: She doesn't hate, she's just looking around. She's all right
Speaker 2: in this moment. Yeah, she's fine.
Speaker 1: Wheah, there's there's so much to get to and I'm
Speaker 1: so interested in your opinion about how this turns out,
Speaker 1: so let's.
Speaker 2: Know it all changes, okay, Rissa, And okay, this is
Speaker 2: a big scene. They meet her mom and her mom
Speaker 2: is just real harsh. I'm gonna go a little I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go a little harder on that. Yeah, I mean harsh,
Speaker 2: isn't She's she's fucked up. She's awful. This is one
Speaker 2: of the bits your fashions off, kind of eighties break
Speaker 2: dancing with the little old of ours says yeah, which
Speaker 2: is a good call actually, yep.
Speaker 1: And then mom goes yeah and the Jerry Curl look
Speaker 1: from the eighties, I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like kind of a little bit racist, yep,
Speaker 2: towards him, even though obviously you know and yeah, no,
Speaker 2: she's awful. She is really mean. She's got like a
Speaker 2: real personality disorder for sure.
Speaker 1: She's like, anyway, what is it about Marissa? Because guess what,
Speaker 1: there's tons of men who are drawn to her. And
Speaker 1: he's like, hmm, yeah, well, our communication style is very good,
Speaker 1: like she doesn't allow things to fester, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, that's one of the things he's not gonna
Speaker 1: like about her. He doesn't like women that are assertive
Speaker 1: or say what's bothering them? And then he goes He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: This one time that she was like, please don't touch me,
Speaker 2: And then I guess I had to step away and
Speaker 2: give her that moment? Did you that's so nice to
Speaker 2: or make her feel bad about being PMS and not
Speaker 2: just wanting to have sex with you every second the day? Dude?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So the mom brings out a photo album
Speaker 1: because apparently she couldn't afford photo albums when Rissa was little,
Speaker 1: which is such a weird thing, Like, okay, you could
Speaker 1: afford photo albums, I'm sorry, but how much is a
Speaker 1: photo album?
Speaker 2: And then you put pictures in it? Do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Or was it already? Was Shutterfly already
Speaker 2: a thing? And you're saying you couldn't order one off
Speaker 2: the inny could have. She's a terrible, terrible mother, I wrote,
Speaker 2: is she drunk? I honestly thought she was maybe like
Speaker 2: fucked up in this moment, like she was so terrible.
Speaker 2: Then she starts yelling at him about a prenup, which
Speaker 2: which is fine. I would I guess I wouldn't yell
Speaker 2: in that at that lunch, but you know, I would
Speaker 2: probably say, yeah, my daughter's going to be a lawyer.
Speaker 2: She's like going to law school. I don't take her
Speaker 2: money because she doesn't need. She doesn't say it like that.
Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, well, I'm sure you're not a bum,
Speaker 2: because my daughter wouldn't be with a fucking bum, but
Speaker 2: you better not be wanting her a lot. Agree to
Speaker 2: support your ass because I'm not coming out there when
Speaker 2: she has a baby because she has to go to
Speaker 2: fucking work. You dig. Yeah, it's like, yeah, she's okay.
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Marissa, and I was like
Speaker 2: she a danger girl. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And then then Marissa goes, yeah, my mom doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come out because she doesn't really like me that much.
Speaker 1: And then the mom goes, yeah, she's a bitch, remember that, yes,
Speaker 1: And Marissa goes, eh, yeah, I can be a little bossy.
Speaker 2: I just want to hug Marissa all day. I just
Speaker 2: want to like make her part of our lives and
Speaker 2: make everything okay because she is such a wonderful badass
Speaker 2: and she doesn't deserve the mom she has. And I
Speaker 2: think the mom is a lot to do with, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, she overcame a lot with a mom like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the mom is not wrong because after this
Speaker 1: she's like, Ramses goes, oh, I was married before, and
Speaker 1: then the mom rolls her eyes and Marissa goes, but
Speaker 1: he was really young, and Ramses goes, I was twenty
Speaker 1: five and the mom goes, well, twenty five is not young.
Speaker 1: And then Marissa goes, well, it was this high school
Speaker 1: sweet heart, and Ramses says, yeah, you know, when you
Speaker 1: get married, you learn a lot about the other person.
Speaker 1: And the mom goes, oh, so now you're explaining marriage
Speaker 1: to me. But that she's just so mean about it,
Speaker 1: like how many times was she freaking married? And how
Speaker 1: young was she when she had her first I know,
Speaker 1: thousands of babies, I know.
Speaker 2: But Ramses is not great. I know, Goes. I think
Speaker 2: he got spoiler. We're not there yet, so I don't
Speaker 2: want to jump to ahead. But I think if we
Speaker 2: look at some of the stuff that he was having
Speaker 2: issue with. Maybe we're not going to say exactly yet,
Speaker 2: but I think a lot of it was the mom.
Speaker 3: I mean if it were me and I met that mom.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, fuck, no, no way, can't be part
Speaker 2: of this family. Yeah, I don't know that I ever saw. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So before she says the prenup thing, she goes, you know,
Speaker 1: marriage isn't really forever. You tolerate each other until it's over.
Speaker 1: You need a prenup. She can't get fucked over. Too
Speaker 1: many guys have fucked her over, and she's working hard
Speaker 1: to get money over. I doesn't want that money going
Speaker 1: to somebody else. She's take it right, right, And then
Speaker 1: Ramses is like, yeah, I'm not here for her money.
Speaker 2: I'll sign a prenup. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I feel even here that Ramses is getting a little
Speaker 1: checked out, which goes along with what you're saying.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's one hundred percent I would too,
Speaker 2: And I've got to give him that out. I have to.
Speaker 3: It's not Marissa's fault, and it sucks.
Speaker 2: We need to get let's do a GoFundMe to get
Speaker 2: Marissa like the best therapist and get her out of
Speaker 2: this danger because she's wonderful, like she's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite people from the season, and I just feel for her.
Speaker 3: But we'll get to that, so Hannah.
Speaker 1: But then, but before we leave, mom Mom gives a
Speaker 1: warning to Rams Ramsey and she's like, if you.
Speaker 2: Hurt my daughter, I will cut your balls off. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: And then they're like and then they flash fourteen days
Speaker 2: until the wedding, and then they flash what if it
Speaker 2: was just cartoon scro them like what so Love is
Speaker 2: Blind has never used anything like that, but for this moment,
Speaker 2: they got an animated balls thing.
Speaker 3: And then they're just like putting that on the screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and weird than shows do that.
Speaker 1: You see the mom drive away and she's got like
Speaker 1: those testicles off the back of her car, you know
Speaker 1: how some.
Speaker 2: Like relly gross. Yes, it makes it look like it's
Speaker 2: coming from the trunk or something. But yeah, yeah she
Speaker 2: has that. And she's like, she didn't have a car
Speaker 2: until then, so they had to fire a car. Production
Speaker 2: had to get her a license because she obviously does
Speaker 2: not have one. As for this one scene, but you
Speaker 2: guys couldn't edit Katie in later we were like, who's Katie?
Speaker 2: But we do know that the mom has balls, bulls
Speaker 2: a car, get the balls. That's good. I'm glad you
Speaker 2: reminded us of that because I for some reason remember
Speaker 2: it but didn't write it down, which is really weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't write that down. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The mom is so forceful. She's just like, are you
Speaker 1: going to do the prenup to Marissa? And Marissa's like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I'll decide those Oh yeah, God.
Speaker 2: This poor lady. So Hannah and Nick go meet her parents,
Speaker 2: who I just wrote were very hot. Yeah, their parents
Speaker 2: were very good looking. Yes, and young. The mom looks
Speaker 2: like really young, like maybe thirties. Right, they're adorable. And
Speaker 2: I want to say, and the dad's really cute. But
Speaker 2: I want to say, and this may have happened later,
Speaker 2: but macro. The mom does not seem to like Hannah.
Speaker 2: She does not seem to like her daughter. She's much
Speaker 2: nicer about it than Marissa's mom. Oh, he's very like
Speaker 2: waspy and polite. But she's doesn't like her. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just know it, like she's just annoyed with everything.
Speaker 2: Hannah says. She doesn't like her as a part. She
Speaker 2: might love her, but she doesn't like her. Well, here's
Speaker 2: I have like a thought about it. I was wondering
Speaker 2: if maybe the mom had her young and then you know,
Speaker 2: because her brother's like really young. If Hannah's twenty six,
Speaker 2: the brother's like, what, like eleven? Was he eleven? Maybe twelve?
Speaker 2: He was a little kid. He was a kid, okay,
Speaker 2: So like she wanted to be done with it, and
Speaker 2: now this other kid, like she's resemble I think she had.
Speaker 1: I think she had Hannah young and didn't know how
Speaker 1: to be a mom and didn't like being a mom.
Speaker 1: But remember this is the same mom that like locked
Speaker 1: the pantry so Hannah couldn't have snacks. I think she
Speaker 1: gave Hannah an eating disorder. She probably was hard on her,
Speaker 1: so now Hannah is hard on everybody else.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a nice out for Hannah, and that
Speaker 2: could be. It could be right, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I dislike Hannah so much that it's like.
Speaker 1: The first thing the mom does is she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so marriage is hard, Like we've had a lot of lows,
Speaker 1: Like some days I just want to divorce this marriage.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's just sapping everything out of me.
Speaker 2: She does say that it was she was one step
Speaker 2: away from saying like, yeah, this guy, I mean our
Speaker 2: wedding was great, but then he cheated on me with
Speaker 2: like a thousand people, right right, that was the energy
Speaker 2: that she was giving. Like some shit went down there
Speaker 2: for sure. And Hannah's like, I mean this is great
Speaker 2: hearing about your marriage and all, but like, are you
Speaker 2: gonna grill this guy? Like, don't get this the part
Speaker 2: of the show where you grill him. And the dad goes,
Speaker 2: what's the point You've already made your decision. You're the
Speaker 2: one who has to be stuck in a dead end
Speaker 2: marriage wishing you die in your sleep so you don't
Speaker 2: have to see their stupid nagging face in the morning. Right.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, well yeah, and if you want to
Speaker 2: go ahead, and I could grill him about like who's
Speaker 2: he gonna fuck on the side like, okay, parents, I
Speaker 2: think this is more something else you guys got to
Speaker 2: work through. Yes. Then so then goes back and forth.
Speaker 2: The mom they seem to like dorka. I'm back to
Speaker 2: calling him dorka because I think we don't use that enough.
Speaker 2: And the mom seems to kind of like him, you know,
Speaker 2: like she's kind of like, okay, cool, and then so
Speaker 2: well she gets all bratty. Well yeah, and it gets
Speaker 2: all bratty about it, and then what is this suck
Speaker 2: my toes. That comes later, I guess at the end
Speaker 2: where she's like, yeah, is he gonna suck my poes?
Speaker 1: Well, the mom is like, well, first of all, Nick
Speaker 1: is saying, you know, he's trying to be nice. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's things that we're both picky about. I mean, her
Speaker 1: list is a lot longer than mine. And Hannah goes,
Speaker 1: I'm easy to fall in love with. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: did n't pick him. And then Nick goes to get
Speaker 1: some mysterious hat that I don't know, and so so
Speaker 1: that Hannah can talk to her parents, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I guess I like him.
Speaker 2: He's okay. He does some things that bug me. And
Speaker 2: then the mom is like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, in marriage you have to overlook
Speaker 1: some things, like, for instance, take your dad's chop chop
Speaker 1: chop chomping. He eats like a fucking dinosaur, and I
Speaker 1: hate it. He makes me want to slice my fucking
Speaker 1: ears off or punch him. Sometimes I just go eat
Speaker 1: in the closet alone and pray for tolerance.
Speaker 2: And she did say that, and I.
Speaker 3: Related that, like, yeah, I know, we've all eaten in
Speaker 3: the closet.
Speaker 2: And the dad goes, yeah, you know, everyone has flaws.
Speaker 2: Don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: And then the mom goes to hand you seem mad,
Speaker 1: maybe you need a massage, and she this is when
Speaker 1: she goes, well, he won't give me a massage.
Speaker 2: He won't even suck my toe. Yeah. And then and
Speaker 2: the mom just looks mortified. She's like, god, oh, god, girl.
Speaker 2: Now everyone has issues in the scene and it's no good.
Speaker 1: Now we get to a scene that I tried to
Speaker 1: tease to you because you were yeah, you were standing
Speaker 1: up for Alex.
Speaker 2: I think about the cleanliness thing, and I was like,
Speaker 2: just wait, girl. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of
Speaker 2: Alex anyway, but I do think some weird shit went
Speaker 2: down here. So Tim goes to her house and she's
Speaker 2: she's very messy, she's like a hoarder. Yeah, well, there's
Speaker 2: stuff strewn everywhere. There's clothes just like all over the floor.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: Here, but yeah, no, it's bad.
Speaker 2: I feel like this wild, like waist deep, like you
Speaker 2: have to wade through. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And then there's trash bags everywhere everywhere, and they sit
Speaker 1: up the couch and she's like, yeah, sorry, I I
Speaker 1: feel weird. I've never shown anyone my mess before, and
Speaker 1: he do you feel, like, what do you think? I
Speaker 1: feel like he was he acted really understanding. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I get it. I don't think he got it at all.
Speaker 2: I think he was give him a little bit of
Speaker 2: a break, because here's the thing. I think he was
Speaker 2: very sweet in this moment, and he had a solution.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, it's just clean. It like it's fixable.
Speaker 2: This is something that's fixable. It's not the worst thing.
Speaker 2: But I think what happened there and we know they
Speaker 2: don't make it spoiler. We've talked about this, but I
Speaker 2: think that he, you know, all how awful she was
Speaker 2: to him for so long, it just finally clicked in him.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's something wrong with him too.
Speaker 2: I don't really understand what exactly went down, but I think,
Speaker 2: I mean, when we'll get to that, but I think
Speaker 2: like he just finally couldn't take it anymore because don't
Speaker 2: forget how terrible she was to him. Well, yes, but
Speaker 2: we don't see a ton of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so weird too.
Speaker 1: We heard they got into a fight. We did see
Speaker 1: her kind of nag him about the brim about the hat.
Speaker 1: She didn't want him to wear the hat, and she said,
Speaker 1: and oh and the dog thing. Yeah, so yeah she
Speaker 1: was a bit mean. But it's weird because you don't
Speaker 1: see this. The fights they get into, you don't see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another really weird thing about this show.
Speaker 2: But all right, let's do a quick thing on Taylor
Speaker 2: and Garrett, because Taylor's fabulous friends come over and there's
Speaker 2: really nothing to say.
Speaker 3: They lay it on thick, they talk a lot, their soulmates.
Speaker 2: The friends love each other, like, yay, we can skip
Speaker 2: past that, right, They're good. Yeah, I mean, Taylor's friends
Speaker 2: are really cute. I loved Yes, I just wrote science
Speaker 2: nerds and they talked about San Diego. Yeah, and the
Speaker 2: friends are not super supportive. They're like to him, they're like,
Speaker 2: are you really okay moving your whole self, your whole life,
Speaker 2: your whole job out of Fredericksburg. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. I want to be with her. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like okay, so false alarm on the moving thing. Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: So then let's get this is interesting. So Ramses and
Speaker 2: Marissa are having a conversation about money and then he
Speaker 2: says and I know the street. He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: really believe in money. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: You don't believe in money.
Speaker 2: That's from a guy who doesn't want somebody else to
Speaker 2: pay for him.
Speaker 3: I don't really do. I don't believe in like I
Speaker 3: believe in just bartering. Like perhaps I could braid your hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you give me a piece of you give
Speaker 2: me like a piece of bread, Like I'll just go
Speaker 2: live back in Cobo and just braid hat, just braid
Speaker 2: hair for a living.
Speaker 3: I can I do a little side note.
Speaker 2: I know we have a lot to get to and
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna this will not be long, but it
Speaker 2: it made me think of this. Yeah. I had an
Speaker 2: ex who had a friend who was really annoying and
Speaker 2: did not know how the world worked at all. And
Speaker 2: he said that once. He's like, I don't believe in
Speaker 2: money and your capitalism as he lived in like you know,
Speaker 2: Marina del Rey does not believe. He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: believe and like on people's couches too, like I don't
Speaker 2: think he even paid fair rent.
Speaker 3: Right, He's like, I don't believe in all that. I
Speaker 3: don't believe in.
Speaker 2: All that, And then he says, and this was probably
Speaker 2: ten years ago, so it's important to know when, or
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3: He goes, you know what I mean, like, tear down
Speaker 3: this wall, mister Gorbachev.
Speaker 2: Noe. First he said, he goes, tear down this wall,
Speaker 2: mister president. And I was like, that is not at
Speaker 2: all how that went. That does not relate at all
Speaker 2: to the story. In fact, it's the opposite. Let me
Speaker 2: explain it to you. He didn't even understand what the
Speaker 2: reference was. Oh.
Speaker 3: I was so annoyed. I was like what, And I go, so,
Speaker 3: how would money work?
Speaker 2: Like how would you have this apartment that you're basically
Speaker 2: not paying for anyway because you're sleeping on your friend's
Speaker 2: couch right.
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know, like i'd trade. I was like,
Speaker 3: what would you trade? What is your skill? And he's
Speaker 3: like I'm funny.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so you just do like we'll stand
Speaker 2: up routines and stuff, and then everyone just pays for everything.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. He had there was no but I just
Speaker 2: thought it was my feecuse tear down this wall, mister president. Nope, Nope,
Speaker 2: that's no. So Ramsey gives me that vibe. Yes, I
Speaker 2: believe money. This poor girl is working her ass off
Speaker 2: to make money go to law school. She's so tired, right.
Speaker 1: But then so then she says, when do you want
Speaker 1: to have kids? Are you still locked in on this
Speaker 1: three to five years?
Speaker 2: From now? Three to five years?
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, Lee's closer to four. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm about to be thirty two and I don't want
Speaker 1: to be trying at thirty seven. Are you sure we
Speaker 1: can we do like two two and a half. And
Speaker 1: he goes, Babe, where's this coming from. I just want
Speaker 1: us to like have time.
Speaker 2: He's such an eric. I don't know, but I think
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 3: She already sad.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. All right. Well, she's like, okay,
Speaker 2: well we need to talk about birth control though, because
Speaker 2: like we've been risking it and I don't want to
Speaker 2: go back on the pill. And he's like, uh, this
Speaker 2: is where I lost He lost me on this. He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing condom sex like that. Ew fuck you dude,
Speaker 2: it's not enjoyable for me. Babe. Okay, yeah, but she
Speaker 2: doesn't want to go on the pill, which is totally understandable.
Speaker 3: So then what are your options?
Speaker 2: You don't like it too bad, babebe I don't believe
Speaker 2: in money or condoms, and he goes, cours you.
Speaker 1: Actually says, guys don't usually have to think about this stuff. No,
Speaker 1: you don't have to think about this stuff. Men in
Speaker 1: general do think about this stuff.
Speaker 2: Then she says, she goes, well, I mean some of
Speaker 2: my best sex has been on a condom. I mean, oh,
Speaker 2: for first of all, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2: But then she but she's like, I mean, should we
Speaker 2: just keep raw dogging it? I'm like, what is this conversation?
Speaker 2: And you know what he says to that, well, you
Speaker 2: do what you need to do, but I need the
Speaker 2: sex to be enjoyable. I would have cut him off
Speaker 2: right there, like, yeah, dare you the I need sex
Speaker 2: to be enjoyable. And I just wrote, f you dude,
Speaker 2: good for Marissa, hold drone And I'm so sad how
Speaker 2: that worked out. I wish that had worked out differently.
Speaker 2: I wish that the result had been the same but
Speaker 2: a different way to get there. Yeah, because that would
Speaker 2: be be like, yeah, I need sex to be enjoy
Speaker 2: able to you fucking asshole. Yeah, okay, So now then
Speaker 2: we go down parents. Yes, yes, which I thought we
Speaker 2: already met them, but no, we'd just seen the basement
Speaker 2: that he lived in.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I wrote, oh my god, Nick's dad looks
Speaker 1: like Greg from Golden Bachelor, the one that's so forgettable.
Speaker 1: To Cecily, Yes, do you know who we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Top course, of course yes he did kind of. They
Speaker 2: were very sweet, and I will say Hannah looked really
Speaker 2: cute when she showed up with all those gifts. I
Speaker 2: was like, God, I want to be that person she
Speaker 2: shows up.
Speaker 1: It was like a real estate agent with his parents
Speaker 1: selling herself. She's like loaded down with gifts.
Speaker 2: She's like, I've got I've got gold balls for dad,
Speaker 2: gold golf balls.
Speaker 1: I got a pot apple. I heard you guys like
Speaker 1: pod apple. I got a salt and pepper shaker and
Speaker 1: a pineapple plate. She's acting like a completely different person.
Speaker 1: I know, but but she's a lot.
Speaker 2: But I was like, God, I want to be the
Speaker 2: person that brings really thoughtful gifts like that. I want
Speaker 2: to show up looking all together. But then the mom
Speaker 2: did something that you and I both hate, like, okay,
Speaker 2: well I'm making dinner. You got to help me finish dinner.
Speaker 2: Now you don't there's your guests. Why does she have
Speaker 2: to help you make dinner? Make it or don't?
Speaker 1: Well, because she's like, you know, you're gonna be cooking
Speaker 1: for my son, so like you better like I better
Speaker 1: see that you know how to make.
Speaker 2: Stuff like in Italian Cuban, the Cuban dish he likes.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is my nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so she's like super. Hannah's really complimentary of Nick.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, he's just amazing and I'm
Speaker 1: helping him grow. And the mom is like, oh, I
Speaker 1: just love you. I just love you. And you know
Speaker 1: what if it doesn't work out with Nick, like she
Speaker 1: you can come live with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, this is getting weird. Like the
Speaker 2: dad's like, yeah, you maybe one a threesome or no.
Speaker 3: I mean, but they like her. It seems like a
Speaker 3: good fit in this moment.
Speaker 1: Although the dad is telling Nick he's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: when I met your mom, she forced me to grow
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like she pushed me. And
Speaker 1: Nick goes, yeah, Hannah is probably just trying to help
Speaker 1: me grow and she's really mean to me.
Speaker 2: M maybe she's just a bitch.
Speaker 3: She's a terrible, terrible, you are not the right fit.
Speaker 2: Now we get to the last part of this season,
Speaker 2: episode nine, not season nine, right, We've got more more coming.
Speaker 2: But I was so confused at the beginning of this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is happening with Ashley? Like, what is
Speaker 2: the fight here that he like somebody wants more kids?
Speaker 2: I was confused for a second, did you have that issue?
Speaker 2: I was like, what were they fighting about?
Speaker 1: I think I'd already seen on Reddit that he has kids,
Speaker 1: so it's a little different than him just having kids.
Speaker 3: So he's no, like, man.
Speaker 2: It's not different. Have you seen this stuff? Have you
Speaker 2: seen what's on Reddit? Yes?
Speaker 3: I saw the later stuff.
Speaker 2: I read some stuff that was posted after, and I
Speaker 2: was still confused because yeah, I saw. Also, there was
Speaker 2: a very long TikTok. Some lady was like, let me
Speaker 2: tell you my truth, and it was like TikTok. I know,
Speaker 2: but it was way too long, like somebody, she needs
Speaker 2: social media all shorten it for you. He had natural
Speaker 2: sex with this woman, which is the real and they
Speaker 2: had a baby, which is the reason why that woman's
Speaker 2: fiance a woman left her because it was fucked up.
Speaker 2: They and then they were going to There was no
Speaker 2: Spern donor. There's no Spern, the fantasy n whatever, the
Speaker 2: island that we talked about. No, so he's not just
Speaker 2: was trying to help his friend. No lesbian friend. No,
Speaker 2: are you sure? Yes?
Speaker 1: So then definitely with the second two, they just had sex, basically.
Speaker 2: She she's like, normally, yes, I like women, but like
Speaker 2: we were together, like we had sex, and then they
Speaker 2: lived together to raise the twins. Yes, that's why there's.
Speaker 1: So many pictures of him with his kids. Well so
Speaker 1: small matching pajamas. So that the other fiance left the
Speaker 1: situation and he fought for custody with the they were
Speaker 1: going they lived together for like a year, raising kids together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what does he say about this though?
Speaker 2: Is he still married to Ashley? I mean, well, let's
Speaker 2: find out on the region. So in this moment, before
Speaker 2: we get to all that, all we know is that
Speaker 2: he's like she finds out that he was, according to him,
Speaker 2: a sperm donor for his friend.
Speaker 3: He has three kids. But the way he's making it
Speaker 3: sound is like totally just sperm donor. They're not in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 2: She has just trying to help, Yeah, and she has
Speaker 2: all these questions like, well do you know them?
Speaker 3: Have you met them?
Speaker 2: And I feel like at this point, he's like, no,
Speaker 2: they're not they're not part of my life. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: he says he didn't meet them. She says wow. He
Speaker 2: says okay.
Speaker 1: She says, so they're your kids and it's with someone
Speaker 1: you know and he and she goes what are their genders?
Speaker 1: And he's like two girls and a boy And she says,
Speaker 1: I want to see documents that say I'm uninvolved, and
Speaker 1: I want to see pictures. And she says, the issue
Speaker 1: is not that you did it. The issue is that
Speaker 1: you never gave me the full picture of And then
Speaker 1: I come to find that you have three sperm babies.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I want to make it clear
Speaker 1: baby that your feelings are valid. I want to marry you,
Speaker 1: I want to have a family. I'll get you whatever
Speaker 1: you need to make you feel comfortable and safe, even
Speaker 1: if you say your happiness is not with me. And
Speaker 1: she's like okay, but she's like what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we were so happy, but if I can't trust you, like,
Speaker 1: what do we have? Like I don't know, I didn't
Speaker 1: see this coming. I think this is the part where
Speaker 1: she says it might be later where she says, do
Speaker 1: you know do they.
Speaker 2: Know what you look like? And he's like, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: He goes, I don't think. So, yeah, he's a lot that.
Speaker 2: It also annoys me even more because he vocal fries
Speaker 2: such a long time. He's just vocal frying for like
Speaker 2: an hour, and I'm like, I can't. I can't with this.
Speaker 2: So now let's get to episode ten because we got
Speaker 2: a lot I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Nick doing photographs for Nick and Hannah open open
Speaker 1: of episode ten. They have a professional photo shoot and
Speaker 1: they both seem super forced, and she of course, and
Speaker 1: so she he's like, yeah, like, you're taller than I
Speaker 1: am today, and she.
Speaker 2: Goes, I thought you were secure. She's just so mean.
Speaker 2: She's so mean. I just read that too. She's so
Speaker 2: rude to him. Then we have a quick glance of well,
Speaker 2: then we go over to Marissa and oh.
Speaker 1: Wait but wait then two seconds later, the photographer brings
Speaker 1: them the pictures and there's something they need to like
Speaker 1: read on the pictures, and Hannah goes, Nick, you can't read.
Speaker 2: What the Oh my god, that's right. She's just awful.
Speaker 2: Always be Megan, Hannah's awful. Okay, So then and Ramses
Speaker 2: they're still agitated. He's like you I said, no, goddam.
Speaker 1: No, No, now they're agitated about something else. No, this
Speaker 1: is a new one. This isn't new thing. They're having
Speaker 1: a new fight. So Ramses goes out.
Speaker 2: On the balcony. He's like, are you okay? She's like
Speaker 2: I'm fine. He's like, are you concerned? She's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean we had one conversation last night that got
Speaker 2: you really in your head, and so apparently it was
Speaker 2: it was that Marissa was trying to move up the
Speaker 2: kids timeline. He's not having it. Like he's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you were really trying to like not wait
Speaker 2: three to five years, but like you want to make
Speaker 2: it sooner. And she's like, it's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 2: Let's just go inside. And then she goes in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Wh they're in a fight, and she's over at the
Speaker 2: stove pretending everything's okay. She's like, what are you going
Speaker 2: to make?
Speaker 1: And he's like, eggs, I guess, like chili crunch flakes,
Speaker 1: like betta cheese, and she goes okay, And then he says,
Speaker 1: you do such a bad job of hiding when you're
Speaker 1: in your head.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is where she goes, I'm fine, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: It's just like with the sexual stuff, like I'm sick
Speaker 1: and I have PMS, and I have like a really
Speaker 1: long drive from Baltimore. But like, I don't want you
Speaker 1: to be upset and unsatisfied. And he goes, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I can like work through that
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: She's like, I just assume that, like if a person's sick,
Speaker 2: and then she goes like, I wish I didn't have
Speaker 2: to explain why, and she's saying why I don't want
Speaker 2: to have sex sometimes, and he goes, yeah, like I
Speaker 2: just wanted to bring it up because like we're almost
Speaker 2: at the wedding and you know, I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's going to be an issue. I don't
Speaker 2: think it will. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Put you in a place where you're forced to do anything,
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure, like if we get married,
Speaker 1: that physical intimacy is where it should be. And she
Speaker 1: goes and you don't think it is, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know you wanted to have sex and cabo, but
Speaker 1: like now, like sometimes it seems like you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a lot, and sometimes you don't want to be touched
Speaker 1: and she goes, there's been like three times total where
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you just stop petting me? Like it's
Speaker 1: kind of over over stimulating. And he goes yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I get it, it's fine, babe.
Speaker 2: She goes, well, it's obviously not.
Speaker 1: Fine, and he goes, no, I mean like long term,
Speaker 1: like that might be an issue.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's yeah, he's not great. This is
Speaker 2: It's a tough scene to watch because I was just like,
Speaker 2: ew is this a problem because she didn't want to
Speaker 2: have sex with him once? Yes, So yeah, he goes.
Speaker 1: He goes, listen, I just like I need to make
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't keep happening. Like he goes, come here,
Speaker 1: come here. I still want to marry you. So she says,
Speaker 1: did you know that in some marriages a man will
Speaker 1: cheat if his wife gets cancer And he goes yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's like, okay, like in a relationship a woman
Speaker 1: goes through stuff like postpartum, like there might be periods
Speaker 1: where I don't want to be affectionate. Is that going
Speaker 1: to be a problem And he goes, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's a fair question. What the what She's like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't control my body, and he says, word for word,
Speaker 1: it's okay, right now, I still want to marry you.
Speaker 2: Ew yeah, he's not. He is not reading her, he's
Speaker 2: not reading the room. He's still trying to be touchy.
Speaker 2: And she's saying, no, I don't always want to be caressed,
Speaker 2: and that's we can all relate to that. That's so gross.
Speaker 1: But if you're already saying up front, like I don't
Speaker 1: want you to feel forced, you need to willingly want
Speaker 1: to fuck me every single night or I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: pouty and mean.
Speaker 2: Right, but that's horrible. Well okay, let's cause we're gonna
Speaker 2: have we have a lot. So I mean, it is horrible,
Speaker 2: but there's it's changes so much yet these two they're
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. So then we go back to Tim's house. Yes,
Speaker 2: this is when Alex comes over. I just wrote his
Speaker 2: family is really really sweet. His real name is Drake,
Speaker 2: by the way, we didn't know that. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm still loving him at this point, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I love Tim Drake or whatever his name is.
Speaker 3: Uh, and Alex, let's see.
Speaker 2: So the mom basically says like you know what sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I get distant and I need my space,
Speaker 1: and I wonder how you deal with it, Like when
Speaker 1: Tim gets that way and Alex goes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just give him a space and like he always
Speaker 2: comes back.
Speaker 1: So then Tim goes outside to talk to his parents,
Speaker 1: and Tim's like, yeah, so we're not always in sync,
Speaker 1: Like she wants me to be affectionate with her and
Speaker 1: I don't like to be touched. I just wrote in
Speaker 1: all caps, I'm not sure what's happening with him. He's
Speaker 1: very cold and distant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very confusing moment, that conversation.
Speaker 2: And there it's a lot of bullshit love is blind
Speaker 2: speak to like what would you give up?
Speaker 3: And I just wrote such platitudes.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got these big speeches about like what marriage is
Speaker 2: and what would you give up to be with this person?
Speaker 3: I was like bull ring with like let's get to it,
Speaker 3: you know, like what.
Speaker 2: What are these these two? And I already decided a
Speaker 2: long time ago they don't belong together. And we're never
Speaker 2: really proven wrong on these shows, right, but we're going
Speaker 2: to find out later.
Speaker 1: You know, Tim's talking to his parents outside, She's she's
Speaker 1: been sitting on the couch talking to his parents. We
Speaker 1: find out later that this went on for like four hours.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, four hours, say she so says she?
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a agrees, and then apparently we're going
Speaker 2: to find out later. But well, we'll talk about it
Speaker 2: when we get to it. But it seemed from what
Speaker 2: we were watching that his parents were being a little
Speaker 2: The mom is kind of cold. He's cold.
Speaker 1: It seems I think that he has issues, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he has issues abandonment stuff, like his sisters died.
Speaker 1: I think the mom is like weird. The dad seems
Speaker 1: also a little bit checked out. It's all interesting and
Speaker 1: we can read more about it later.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then we go to Tyler and Ashley are
Speaker 2: back to having a conversation about discussing. We have a
Speaker 2: whole conversation about discussing communication, which in this case is
Speaker 2: fair on her end because.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, about that sprum baby thing.
Speaker 2: First of all, I also did not like that the
Speaker 2: dog was in a cage during that, like in its
Speaker 2: kennel understorm. I know, maybe it was just being difficult
Speaker 2: with production, and that's very pot Maybe it was biting people.
Speaker 2: I bought thee I think maybe a little is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, listen, just for like legal purposes, we're
Speaker 2: just gonna go ahead and put it in a kennel.
Speaker 2: I just gonna go over to the dog. It's got
Speaker 2: a muzzle on. It's like it's like wrapped like Houdini,
Speaker 2: like it's in a straight jacket and of like Silence
Speaker 2: of the Lambs. It's like very Hannibal Lecter. And you're like,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't even have the dog in the scene then,
Speaker 2: and there anybody else that could have picked up the dog.
Speaker 2: She's like, listen, this is my dog.
Speaker 1: But it's a good thing you don't actually have any kids,
Speaker 1: because my dog is not great around kids.
Speaker 2: So it's a good thing. You've never even met your
Speaker 2: kids or they have any good kids, right, and if
Speaker 2: you do, okay, oh yeah the sperm kids, but you
Speaker 2: don't know them, right, it's a good thing because this
Speaker 2: dog absolutely not. Yeah, okay, so here's the part. This
Speaker 2: is actually the part. She's she's like, hey, I need
Speaker 2: to know more about that dynamic, about like what is
Speaker 2: the situation? And he goes, okay, So I had two
Speaker 2: friends and they wanted a baby and they couldn't afford
Speaker 2: a sperm donor. So I fucked one of the women
Speaker 2: to help them out, and that's where she goes, well
Speaker 2: do the kids know what you look like? And he
Speaker 2: looks around.
Speaker 1: It is the shadiest freaking his eyes dart back and forth,
Speaker 1: like that scene in Modern Romance where all the guys
Speaker 1: where they do that, like anyway.
Speaker 3: You're talking about when the edit, when they're doing in
Speaker 3: the editing day, when they're.
Speaker 2: Like, who has the codes? Yes, I've got to have
Speaker 2: that exactly, Yes you must have the code, and then
Speaker 2: they show him looking around like he doesn't. Somebody goes,
Speaker 2: I have the code, and then they cut that out
Speaker 2: instead they just show him looking all shift.
Speaker 3: Now, this is a deep cut. You guys. You are
Speaker 3: not going to get an Albert Brooks Modern Romance reference
Speaker 3: on any other Love is Blind recap. I dare you
Speaker 3: to find.
Speaker 1: That, No, no one person who listens is.
Speaker 3: Going to get that reference or even know what we're
Speaker 3: talking about. Yeah, we're sorry about that.
Speaker 2: So Tyler comes back around and he goes, yes, I
Speaker 2: don't think so, and I just wrote this bitch is
Speaker 2: a lying liar face. How does he think he can
Speaker 2: lie on TV? When it's now for social media now
Speaker 2: you lived with the mom and the kids, and more
Speaker 2: vocal fry, like on top of lying, you're gonna do
Speaker 2: it in bocal cry, and that really bothers me. I
Speaker 2: do not like it. So she's now, okay, I guess
Speaker 2: we can just take this hour by hour. And he's
Speaker 2: such a victim.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, if this isn't it, Like it's not it,
Speaker 4: Like I can't be mad like we tried, Like if
Speaker 4: you go to day, I'll sleep out here, like you
Speaker 4: could sleep in there, like you can have your space
Speaker 4: big and have it Bob.
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's so bizarre, he turns out. But
Speaker 2: all right, So before we get to more of that,
Speaker 2: then we go back to Taylor and Garrett. They're in
Speaker 2: a caligraphy class. Yeah, of course, because of course they are,
Speaker 2: because she's going to get the thing framed, the love
Speaker 2: letter from from Grandpa and the popular opinion. These two
Speaker 2: bore the fuck out of me.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's an unpopular opinion.
Speaker 2: It's not. I just don't care.
Speaker 3: No, I don't either.
Speaker 2: But they really are cute. I want to give them
Speaker 2: their due. They're cute together. I do feel like maybe
Speaker 2: two soulmates found each other but maybe not because everybody's
Speaker 2: got issues. We'll get to that because he's going to
Speaker 2: have an issue, but they're still perfect, right. So by
Speaker 2: the way, Taylor says though, she's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like maybe we can make one of these
Speaker 1: like love letter things for like your mom, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she'd appreciate the thought at least, but she's
Speaker 1: probably not going to come. And then don't forget this
Speaker 1: is our Southern cry baby, cry baby Holly Hunter lady,
Speaker 1: Oh that'sir who was like cry and going like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's too soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a lie. Yeah, she's gonna be all. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we want them together, but I mean,
Speaker 2: if anybody can handle it, it's Taylor. She's cool chick.
Speaker 2: She's got some problems, but she's cool. She's a very
Speaker 2: cool chick. Okay. So and then I just wrote Hannah's
Speaker 2: bugging me, and then I guess she says like, I'm
Speaker 2: so embarrassed for you.
Speaker 3: Why does she say that to Nick?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they're doing some like obstacle course
Speaker 1: thing and Hannah's just nagging him again. And Hannah's like,
Speaker 1: are you even ready to get married? And She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to always have to be the one
Speaker 1: to initiate deep conversations or initiate sex.
Speaker 3: Or when I say you're supposed to read, you don't read.
Speaker 2: You just watch TV. I set you should read something
Speaker 2: and you don't want to read. I'm like, get out.
Speaker 2: I just wrote get out, blink twice. Yes, get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of it. And I didn't even understand the activity.
Speaker 2: I just go, what even is this activity? And why it's.
Speaker 1: Some kind of like Ninja Warrior game thing they're doing. Yes,
Speaker 1: So he's like just a right, babe, Yeah, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like maybe last night instead of going to watch the game,
Speaker 1: I guess I could have like just read books. And
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, priorities, right, and then she he says, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right. Like in Mexico, like you got really pissed
Speaker 1: at me when I couldn't figure out the lights or
Speaker 1: when I asked where the what was the disposal like
Speaker 1: the garbage disposal was like you know, you didn't call
Speaker 1: me stupid, but you were like, come on, Nick, you
Speaker 1: should know this. Like he's like, sometimes I think you
Speaker 1: think I'm like a level below you, and I do.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to be treated as an equal.
Speaker 2: She goes, well, you.
Speaker 1: Get treated as an equal when you start contributing as
Speaker 1: an equal, and she goes, I know I'm sometimes mean
Speaker 1: and harsh to you, but I feel like, at twenty
Speaker 1: eight years old, you should know how to do these things,
Speaker 1: and that really frustrates me. And then I just wrote,
Speaker 1: fuck both these two. Okay, Marissa and Ramses are planning
Speaker 1: their wedding and she's like, he goes, yes, how you feeling, babe.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I'm I'm on my period, but I'm
Speaker 1: back at my normal energy level, so uh you know,
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, we figured it out pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: She goes, now, yeah, so now you know once a month,
Speaker 1: I you know, I sometimes won't be able to have sex,
Speaker 1: so like she doesn't get to say no any other time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, No, that's the whole thing. And I just
Speaker 2: wrote she's being so so sweet. They're talking about like
Speaker 2: the boho glam. He's checked out at this part. I
Speaker 2: do think it's weird. I do want to say at
Speaker 2: this point, I was confused about the fact that like
Speaker 2: maybe this was off camera, but that he never said like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your mom was really crazy, like.
Speaker 1: Mean, they never said about it. Yeah, they did. They
Speaker 1: talked about it a while ago. I just didn't. It
Speaker 1: was sort of a needless conversation. And she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom's a lot like she needs therapy. I feel
Speaker 1: like I sort of missed that.
Speaker 2: I feel like she wasn't, not that she necessarily Maybe
Speaker 2: she's been in enough therapy that she knows that she
Speaker 2: doesn't have to speak for her mom. She's not her mom.
Speaker 2: But if it were me, who probably needs more help
Speaker 2: with that, I'd be like, I'm so sorry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's really embarrassing. She did. Mom.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, my mom was really a lot. Sorry
Speaker 1: she does. She's like she needs therapy, and she she
Speaker 1: basically apologizes for it and says like it doesn't my
Speaker 1: mom's opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I missed that.
Speaker 2: But then so yeah, I just wrote, Okay, this is
Speaker 2: this is kind of a boring conversation that we sort
Speaker 2: of had already had. You know, I want this to
Speaker 2: be like your first marriage. Yeah, just like no, I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Mersa and Rams. Okay, Okay, yeah, boring. Let's
Speaker 2: move on then. Okay, so let me set the scene
Speaker 2: for you. Alex.
Speaker 1: Seems like She does not know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: although I think Tim has told her, hey, can you
Speaker 1: come over and like chill out with me? I want
Speaker 1: to talk to you, So she's not knowing. She does
Speaker 1: not know they're having a breakup conversation. So she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, getting herself some chicken tenders out of the microwave.
Speaker 1: She's like getting ready to sit down. She kind of
Speaker 1: sits down behind him. She's like getting her dipping sauces,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, yeah, let me know when
Speaker 1: you're ready to talk. She goes, well, okay, kay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't eaten all day. And he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to talk to you intently. Like yeah, he went
Speaker 1: with intent.
Speaker 2: He want attention. He's mad. Now okay, wait now hold on. Now,
Speaker 2: I know I'm team Tim a lot. I know I
Speaker 2: take up for him. You have to remember how to
Speaker 2: if we saw Alex be as terrible as she was
Speaker 2: to him, there's stuff that we didn't see.
Speaker 3: So he's just done with it. He's done with her
Speaker 3: mosying about because.
Speaker 2: If we didn't even see Kate, if the editors took
Speaker 2: out an entire Katie for the most part, we don't
Speaker 2: see all this other stuff, and he's sort of like,
Speaker 2: I don't really have time for you to get your
Speaker 2: chicken day. He's just done with her because she's she's
Speaker 2: really been awful, I know.
Speaker 1: But it's so interesting, Like that's what's so interesting about
Speaker 1: two people talking about a show, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I think that I'm on her side now, and I
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: I get that in this scene because he's coming off controlling.
Speaker 2: He's coming off like very.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's just like, you can't make any mistakes.
Speaker 2: But I think he just had gotten to a point
Speaker 2: where he just did it was not a good match
Speaker 2: and he just wanted to coldly make that clear because
Speaker 2: it just wasn't happening. You're right, though, he blindsided her
Speaker 2: and that was shitty.
Speaker 1: It seems I don't know, but like the reasons he
Speaker 1: was giving her did not seem to be adding up,
Speaker 1: because he's he's like, you know, some thing's happened with
Speaker 1: my parents visit that I'm upset about. And she does
Speaker 1: look genuinely surprised, which tells you.
Speaker 2: It's not like they'd have I don't think they'd had
Speaker 2: a fight about it, because she looks like, oh okay,
Speaker 2: and then he goes, would you like me to tell you?
Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, like for sure, please tell me what
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: And he goes and I just wrote this is like
Speaker 1: too much to type, but basically he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you fell asleep that night. And then he says
Speaker 1: he's complaining because he says he texted her the day
Speaker 1: before and he didn't like not getting a response from her.
Speaker 1: But it seems to me that she was saying, like,
Speaker 1: I was at work and she's apparently a bartender. Oh,
Speaker 1: so she's busy at work. She was working like a
Speaker 1: long shift the night before, and he said he was
Speaker 1: texting her and he said, I didn't like not getting
Speaker 1: a response, and she says, but I did respond.
Speaker 2: I responded back. She'd had some tire issue and she'd
Speaker 2: gotten her tire fixed, and she told him it was fixed,
Speaker 2: and then he was like, okay, but keep an eye
Speaker 2: on your tires. So she didn't respond. She didn't like,
Speaker 2: she didn't like that or something. She didn't respond. He's
Speaker 2: like feeling that she's very passive aggressive. She has been
Speaker 2: this whole time where he's gone wrong in my opinion
Speaker 2: on this point, and I'm with you, is that like
Speaker 2: because I am someone who also needs a shit ton
Speaker 2: of a loone time I get drained. You probably do too,
Speaker 2: but I like real quick, like at an hour, I
Speaker 2: have to kind of sometimes leave, and she might be
Speaker 2: like that too. And so if they were together for
Speaker 2: a really long time with cameras on and I have
Speaker 2: to be on for your family, totally cool to be like, hey, god,
Speaker 2: I just I'm kind of got I get drained really fast,
Speaker 2: so I do need just a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of a loan time.
Speaker 2: I doubt Alex said it like that. I bet this
Speaker 2: cameras turned off and she's like yeah, bye, Like I
Speaker 2: bet she was kind of a cuz about it. So
Speaker 2: Tim doesn't do well with that. Well, apparently he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have known because he left this.
Speaker 1: The way the story is the way the story was
Speaker 1: told on Reddit. She spent four hours with his parents.
Speaker 1: He left to go do something. She had a bartending
Speaker 1: shift that same night, or she was bartending like an event,
Speaker 1: you know, and so she was like, Hey, I'm going
Speaker 1: to take a nap and she laid down for an
Speaker 1: hour before she think.
Speaker 2: It was the parents that or like she was really rude,
Speaker 2: because that's the only thing that makes sense is that
Speaker 2: they would say something, because there's no world in which
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be okay to take a nap, even if
Speaker 2: it was a four hour nap and not an hour whatever.
Speaker 2: There's no you don't need a reason to do that.
Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of is that she
Speaker 2: was mean. She was cold, because we've seen her be cold.
Speaker 2: I think there's something wrong with her, and I think
Speaker 2: she was kind of bit cheaful, and they were loving it.
Speaker 2: It's possible. I was like, you know, you see things
Speaker 2: the way you see them, and I was thinking about
Speaker 2: one of my kids who needs alone time, and it
Speaker 2: gets so her battery gets drained real fast, and then
Speaker 2: she starts getting anxious and like down and same, I
Speaker 2: did you just get exhausted, especially being on Like yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I understand that happened. But based on everything
Speaker 2: we know about her and the way she's presented herself,
Speaker 2: she must have done something that made the parents unless
Speaker 2: they're nuts too, which you said, they might kind of
Speaker 2: be a little weird.
Speaker 3: They said something to him.
Speaker 1: Well he doesn't really tell her, and this is the thing,
Speaker 1: and he has a hands, but he keeps he keeps
Speaker 1: just saying like yeah, like it was just disrespectful you
Speaker 1: didn't text me back, And she's.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, so late.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you're upset because I fell asleep after talking
Speaker 1: to your parents for four hours.
Speaker 2: And then and then he's like, well, when I visited
Speaker 2: your parents, I got up early, I went to the
Speaker 2: grocery store. I seasoned the meat that wasn't easy. Then
Speaker 2: I did the dishes. So then he's like and then
Speaker 2: she goes but and he's like, are you gonna let
Speaker 2: me speak? Yeah? I mean he was done. Now they
Speaker 2: both stup. I think they both and she and she goes,
Speaker 2: of course, of course, go ahead, like you can talk,
Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, well you're not really letting me talk.
Speaker 2: And she's like, okay, please tell me because it's not
Speaker 2: making sense to me that your brain. And he's like,
Speaker 2: up there you go again. You're not gonna let me talk,
Speaker 2: she said. He basically just says, yeah, let's cut the
Speaker 2: chip to the chair. He just like, I never want
Speaker 2: to see you again. I just was like, this is
Speaker 2: excruciating and very unexpected, but bye bye bye bye. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But she's like, okay, this is like really hurtful, Like
Speaker 2: I can't believe you're just gonna end this over because
Speaker 2: I didn't text back about my tires, which I feel
Speaker 2: like I did, and she says, I can't read your mind,
Speaker 2: Like if you want me, if you wanted me to
Speaker 2: spend more time with your parents, like or you should
Speaker 2: have told me. And he's just like, don't care. Bye, right, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So we got a lot so costume party. Everyone's in
Speaker 2: their little twenties outfits. This is when we meet Katie
Speaker 2: and we're like, what we've already covered that flatbirst party,
Speaker 2: flapbirs's people. I thought Taylor was funny and she's like,
Speaker 2: I don't usually wear a flapper DRS Like she's she's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but outside of the venue, she's not so funny.
Speaker 1: She's very she's pissed, very upset with Garrett because he
Speaker 1: liked a message. True let me excuse me, bless you?
Speaker 1: So yeah he okay, well as far as we know
Speaker 1: at this point, and X reached out to Garrett and
Speaker 1: he liked the message, and she's pissed that he liked message,
Speaker 1: which I think is crazy.
Speaker 2: I think it's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was surprising.
Speaker 2: So also surprising is not just how upset she is,
Speaker 2: Like I could see maybe she had a couple of
Speaker 2: drinks and she's like not understanding, but she's really like,
Speaker 2: I just don't know, Like I don't know. We're supposed
Speaker 2: to be getting married in a week, and you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, the only response that you should have
Speaker 2: had is just I'm engaged. M So now he can't
Speaker 2: even have he can't even have any back and forth
Speaker 2: with anybody. Would. I just thought that seemed controlling.
Speaker 1: And she's like, it's this is bad timing, Like we
Speaker 1: had all day to talk about this, and she just
Speaker 1: keeps saying that she's mad. But she's like, but I
Speaker 1: will get over it, yeah, which she's not. And it
Speaker 1: gets a little bit worse. But so I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is weird. Everybody calmed down. So then they have
Speaker 1: this party. Tim comes alone. Everybody's just going to show up,
Speaker 1: no problem, there's Alex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody it's gonna come. But you guys can't
Speaker 2: send Brittany and the art deal Leo, yeah, no, something.
Speaker 2: We got to figure that out. We will. So Alex
Speaker 2: tells the ladies what's up. You know, Tim's trying to
Speaker 2: They're all had drinking whisk whatever they're doing. Everybody's nobody
Speaker 2: care I've checked out on them. Now, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: nothing's gonna change. Ashley tells the girls the other girls
Speaker 2: about Tyler's kid, which she's like, but we have a
Speaker 2: really deep connection yeah, which she apparently has with these
Speaker 2: other kids that he is like fathered. So then Monica
Speaker 2: shows up, obviously without Steven, but she has this weird
Speaker 2: thing where she's like, yeah, I talked to Steven.
Speaker 3: What I was so confused, Like, what are you guys?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 3: You're just buddies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's fine. We talked for two hours. We talked
Speaker 2: through everything and he's a super good person. You guys
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, sorry, you guys together and she's like,
Speaker 2: oh god, no, yeah, thank god, Yeah that was and
Speaker 2: I was I was over her. Like once she's gone,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even need her on my screen.
Speaker 2: So Boden body whatever his name was, by him, he
Speaker 2: shows up. Marissa liked him, but she's not confused. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I chose the right guy. That's kind of important. And
Speaker 2: she's like, no, having seen him, he's a good guy,
Speaker 2: but now I got the right one. No you didn't.
Speaker 2: So then Katie meets Nick, which again I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know who this is, but she keeps saying she's
Speaker 2: like so cute.
Speaker 3: She tells Hannah, well right.
Speaker 1: Before that though, Right before that, Garrett, Taylor, Tyler, and
Speaker 1: Ashley are sitting together and for some reason, Garrett is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so my ex texted me and like and I responded,
Speaker 1: And then Taylor loses her She's like, you responded, that's
Speaker 1: new and he goes, no, no, no, it was nothing.
Speaker 1: And she's like, let me see your phone and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: it's over there, like can I get it later? And
Speaker 1: he's like, so I just texted her back and I
Speaker 1: said I met someone. I'm engaged, Like I don't think
Speaker 1: we should continue sending messages, have a great life, something
Speaker 1: like that, and Taylor like loses her shit. She gets
Speaker 1: up from the table, she's cry She like runs away
Speaker 1: and Ashley has to follow her and Taylor us she
Speaker 1: says changes everything, and Ashley's like, yeah, I guess, like
Speaker 1: omitting the truth is a lot, you know, like and
Speaker 1: then she's just like this is so dumb.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that. I cannot. She's gonna have some
Speaker 2: jealousy issues for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But this thing with Katie that does happen.
Speaker 2: Right before that.
Speaker 3: We're going to come back to it, but she does
Speaker 3: me no, no, no, I know.
Speaker 2: But there's a little bit of a brief second where
Speaker 2: that happens, where she does say it quite a few times.
Speaker 3: I didn't know he was so cutie, so cutie, so cute.
Speaker 3: So then we go to gett like what you know.
Speaker 3: Then we go back to them in a second.
Speaker 2: But first, first Hannah is sitting with the girls and
Speaker 2: she starts going on and on. This is the horrible part.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I have to teach Nick everything, like
Speaker 2: I'm expanding his horizons, like I got him to try
Speaker 2: new foods, but he doesn't like to eat pussy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yes, yeah that was a little bit later,
Speaker 3: but yes that does.
Speaker 2: Let's skip to that. So because Katie's going on and
Speaker 2: on about how cute Nick is, She's like, yeah, having
Speaker 2: this sex conversation is like I got to get off.
Speaker 2: Hey done, eat pussy. I'm like, this is a nightmare
Speaker 2: for all of the viewers. Yeah, this is no good.
Speaker 2: And then she says yeh, like it's like having an
Speaker 2: eighteen year old eat pussy. Come on now, and then
Speaker 2: they show him it's the best editing. They show him
Speaker 2: when she says that, they show Nick just chewing on
Speaker 2: something like as though, like that's how he does it.
Speaker 3: So that was a good That was a cute one.
Speaker 2: And then and then she always has to she's so
Speaker 2: passive aggressive, she always ends everything. She's like, yeah, he's learning.
Speaker 2: I love him, but he's not on my level. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, she says it all that. Okay, So then
Speaker 2: Nick and Katie sit down and she's Katie's flirting. Now,
Speaker 2: how Katie and Hannah are best friends when they met
Speaker 2: each other two weeks ago for one week. That's a pod.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
Speaker 1: Yes, that starts on the next episode where she's like,
Speaker 1: that's my best friend in the whole world. I've never
Speaker 1: had a friend that's better than Katie. Right, So I
Speaker 1: do hope Nick and Katy end up together. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to happen. But they
Speaker 1: are having this conversation. She's kind of flirting.
Speaker 2: He's dry, he's a little drunk, but he doesn't do
Speaker 2: anything wrong, No, he doesn't. He's just having a conversation.
Speaker 2: That's somebody I met, that's your type. Okay, they're flirting
Speaker 2: social until he's like, yeah, so, but then you dropped me.
Speaker 1: Why was that in the in the pods like we
Speaker 1: were each other's number one, like we were so into
Speaker 1: each other. And she's like, cause you're immature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't think you were mature enough. So
Speaker 2: then that she goes conditioning, she goes, you you lead
Speaker 2: with I know you're so sexy, which you don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't see me like, and she goes and I
Speaker 2: think that's a defense mechanism. You know what. You have
Speaker 2: a fiance now, so you need to grow. I was
Speaker 2: like Katie.
Speaker 3: Comment though, yeah, it's a calm down. But then he
Speaker 3: makes this comment where he's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just like misunderstood because I'm just like,
Speaker 2: really sarcastic, dude, you're not sarcastic.
Speaker 3: You're not smart enough to be sarcastic.
Speaker 2: Anybody who really truly is wouldn't even say that about themselves,
Speaker 2: Like it's just such a it's so annoying, right charming,
Speaker 2: They're like Riko swabe.
Speaker 3: I didn't I think he's just a dumb guy. He's
Speaker 3: not really, he's not that charming.
Speaker 2: No, there's a lot more charming people he's an he's
Speaker 2: an okay dude. I think he's a nice guy. I
Speaker 2: root for him. I hope he ends up with someone great.
Speaker 2: But like he's I don't know why they all decided like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's just so smooth.
Speaker 1: I think he's in sure. I don't think they thought
Speaker 1: he was smooth. I think they thought he was pretending
Speaker 1: to be smooth. They're like, oh, he's so slick, like
Speaker 1: he's so overly flirty with all of us. You know,
Speaker 1: he's so smooth.
Speaker 2: They all all of.
Speaker 1: The girls in the pods were over him, except for
Speaker 1: except for Hannah right, because Hannah was basically knew that
Speaker 1: Leo wasn't It didn't seem like Leo was happening, and
Speaker 1: Leo only really cared about her when she's like I
Speaker 1: think I like Nick right, and then.
Speaker 2: He's like no, my god, what the fuck? And then
Speaker 2: she's like okay, bye. Because everyone was telling her in
Speaker 2: the pods they're like this guy is corny, like he's
Speaker 2: doing the same thing to all of us, and she's like,
Speaker 2: I know, but I don't know. There's something about him
Speaker 2: I'm not. I just think I could step all over
Speaker 2: I hope he's tall, though he says he's a kicker
Speaker 2: in the NFL, So I guess gotta be a big gap.
Speaker 2: So now we end the episode with Taylor and Garrett
Speaker 2: having a fight, and she's she's living freaking out. She's
Speaker 2: freaking out, and.
Speaker 1: She's like, we were supposed to meet my parents tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but I said I'd only go if I was two No,
Speaker 1: I'm not two hundred.
Speaker 2: Too many red flags? Too many red what are the
Speaker 2: red flags?
Speaker 3: Okay? Also, so I got the feet.
Speaker 2: I understood why she was mad he did lie, and like,
Speaker 2: you're about to get married, Like, don't lie about shit
Speaker 2: like that. But it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2: And also it got a little scary when she's like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe I should look at your phone. No, you don't
Speaker 2: ever have to look at somebody's I have never Okay, once,
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, I looked at someone's email. I looked
Speaker 2: at their computer because I was living with them, and
Speaker 2: I went online so I could it was just right there,
Speaker 2: like I opened it.
Speaker 3: And looked at kind of some of this an email.
Speaker 2: So I did do that once, but I have never
Speaker 2: a And I've been in a lot of really long
Speaker 2: term relationships and short ones.
Speaker 3: I've never asked to look at someone's phone. Never, that's not.
Speaker 2: A thing, Like I mean, I you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like I'd never be like show me, show me your phone.
Speaker 2: I think that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, and she's exhausting. I think in this yes.
Speaker 1: So he's like, God, I'm so sorry. I really fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm still the same person.
Speaker 2: And she goes, this is too much everything, Why are
Speaker 2: you honest? And he's like, I know the problem. It's me.
Speaker 2: I get it. If you leave me, I'll be really crushed.
Speaker 2: But I get it. She's like, yeah, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: He's very logical. There's nothing he can do.
Speaker 2: I get why she's upset, and I still love her.
Speaker 2: She's still my girl. I did not like the way
Speaker 2: they were doing close ups on her face, like it
Speaker 2: was just like up in her nostrils, Like why, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden are you trying this weird artsy technique,
Speaker 2: Like it was weird of her just being upset and
Speaker 2: it was just way too close on her face.
Speaker 1: But that is not her fault. No, and listen a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that none of this matters in the end.
Speaker 2: You just we're just giving you our take. But coming
Speaker 2: soon is eleven and twelve. Yeah, and yes, we'll get
Speaker 2: you caught up. We got last more to get to. Yep,
Speaker 2: well are some more to get to. Thank you guys
Speaker 2: for being part of our Love is Blind. Yes, almost
Speaker 2: a journey, but I'm not that girl. Journey journey. We
Speaker 2: love you, Okay, we love you.
Speaker 3: Thanks to you to days.
Speaker 2: Bye bye