Speaker 1: You're listening to Everything out There with your host Steve Stockton.
Speaker 2: Hello friends, Hello, hello everybody, Welcome back. Steve's talking to
Speaker 2: here with you everything out there on the Clyde Lewis
Speaker 2: Ground zero Radio Network. Thank you for joining us tonight.
Speaker 2: My guest tonight once again, she's back for another round,
Speaker 2: all the way from East Tennessee. Catheda kat Gray. You
Speaker 2: may know her from the YouTube channel ghost Lore and
Speaker 2: also Lee g First four Audio wrote a song about
Speaker 2: her called Love Online. Strictly platonic, but it is a
Speaker 2: good song, and if Lee gives me permission, I'm going
Speaker 2: to play it during the break, but otherwise, Cathita, come
Speaker 2: on in. How you doing, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your son, Holden.
Speaker 2: And thank you, thank you. Yeah, i missed a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks here, but I've been doing the radio show
Speaker 2: for a little over a year now. This fact, if
Speaker 2: all things, if I've been able to do them while
Speaker 2: the baby was being born, this would be episode fifty three,
Speaker 2: but it's just fifty one, counting those two weeks in there.
Speaker 2: I didn't do one, so this is actually week fifty three,
Speaker 2: So a little over a year did I've been graciously
Speaker 2: permitted to be here on everything out there on the
Speaker 2: Clyde Lewis Ground zero Radio Network. Thanks Clyde and Ron
Speaker 2: and Mike and everybody associated with the show, all the
Speaker 2: producers and everybody. So what's going on in East Tennessee?
Speaker 2: Did you? Did he those floods get down to.
Speaker 1: Your area surrounding me? But there wasn't anything that I
Speaker 1: know is really too bad in my area.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I lived up in Mountain City for about a year.
Speaker 2: It's in the extreme northeastern tip of Tennessee, and Rohan
Speaker 2: Mountain up there got hit. And just down the road Mascus, Virginia,
Speaker 2: where the Appalachian Trail passes through, I think that whole
Speaker 2: town was underwater from the stuff I was looking at.
Speaker 2: The Appalachian Trail I think is close to there a
Speaker 2: lot of those little towns. I was just surprised that
Speaker 2: how bad Carolina's and the parts of Tennessee got hit.
Speaker 2: Pigeon Forge, severe, bil Gallenburg. I saw something earlier saying
Speaker 2: that the roads were out in the Smokies, and you
Speaker 2: know at four forty one through the Smokies the snowflake
Speaker 2: fall as they close it down anyway, but apparently the
Speaker 2: road is absolutely gone in some of those areas. So
Speaker 2: who knows. Praiers for those people up there in the mountains.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, a few years ago we had some very
Speaker 1: bad range and there was a couple of little landslides.
Speaker 1: A landslide behind the apartment complex came down and just
Speaker 1: beat up the backside of that apartment complex, just sneaky
Speaker 1: Kirby Road going across the mountain. It was somebody that
Speaker 1: lost their life coming around through there when a landslide
Speaker 1: came down and knocked them out road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of devastation, destruction and deaths all
Speaker 2: over it. The toll just keeps climbing. It's again, prayers
Speaker 2: for all those people. Well, tonight we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about Haunted to Tennessee, and as a lifelong resident of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: I hope you'll be able to give some insight on
Speaker 2: some of these things that I came up with here.
Speaker 1: I know a few little things. I'd love to know
Speaker 1: a lot more. Hey learn every day it gets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always more stuff going on.
Speaker 1: As a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here and the same here, And I didn't
Speaker 2: choose it. It shows me somebody asked me that once.
Speaker 2: I says, see what do you pick all the stuff
Speaker 2: to write about and talk about it? Who says I
Speaker 2: picked it? I think it picked me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even give a thought. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just like breathing. It's natural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is.
Speaker 1: Yep. I can't help it. I don't. I don't tend
Speaker 1: to not listen to, you know, stories or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never thought about having to not listen
Speaker 1: to it. Always an open mind or an open heart
Speaker 1: and ear for it, you know more. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Tennessee is a hotbed paranormal activity, with many historic
Speaker 2: locations boasting their own resident ghosts and spooky stories. Tonight,
Speaker 2: we're going to go over just a few of the
Speaker 2: most famous hauntings in this state. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: start with one of my favorites. That's the bell Witch
Speaker 2: Cave and Canoe Rental now in Adams, Tennessee. Now they've
Speaker 2: added the canoe rentals since I was there last time.
Speaker 2: But it's right there on the Red River, so I
Speaker 2: guess that makes sense. Have you ever been up there
Speaker 2: to the bell Witch Cave.
Speaker 1: No, I've always heard so much about that though. It's
Speaker 1: always coming across my YouTube feed or there's some connection
Speaker 1: to it or somebody related to the family.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's too extensive stuff to go in here,
Speaker 2: but we'll just briefly. You know, no list of Tennessee hauntings.
Speaker 2: I don't think it would be complete without the infamous
Speaker 2: about which entity that tormented the Bell family in the
Speaker 2: early eighteen hundreds, and I said, still haunt the cave
Speaker 2: where she once resided. Visitors of report hearing strange noises,
Speaker 2: feeling cold spots, and even seeing apparitions. And last time
Speaker 2: I was there, it's been a few years ago, but
Speaker 2: I heard some noises back in there. It's a creepy,
Speaker 2: creepy place, and I was the only one there. She
Speaker 2: unlocked the big iron door that they've got over the entrance,
Speaker 2: so I know there wasn't anybody already in there. And
Speaker 2: I took some strange pictures. Sadly I don't have them anymore,
Speaker 2: that got lost in a hard drive crash, but there's
Speaker 2: some pictures and some stuff down there that she said
Speaker 2: wasn't there. And Chris Kerb the lady, her and her
Speaker 2: husband own it, and frightening stuff. She's got a couple
Speaker 2: of albums that when I was there, that she's probably
Speaker 2: got more than that now that she photo albums that
Speaker 2: she showed me and people, She's taken some strange pictures,
Speaker 2: and people sent her strange pictures back. One of the
Speaker 2: strangest was the picture of her daughter, who was just
Speaker 2: young at the time, and her friend sitting outside the
Speaker 2: entrance of the cave, and her daughter's got a snake
Speaker 2: around her neck. It looks like maybe a book and
Speaker 2: stricter or something like that. And she said, yeah, she said,
Speaker 2: my daughter is absolutely terrified of snakes. And it's just
Speaker 2: two little girls looking at the camera and smiling, and
Speaker 2: her daughter has a snake around her neck. And she said,
Speaker 2: there has no way on earth that my daughter would
Speaker 2: have sat there posted the camera, smiling with a snake
Speaker 2: around her neck. Now, how do you explain something like
Speaker 2: that that's just weird?
Speaker 1: Is that a ghost snake?
Speaker 2: Or I reckon it's some kind of apparition or something.
Speaker 1: The bell Witch Haunting, it's right up there. It's getting
Speaker 1: to be known as one of the most known haunts
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 2: It's very well known, and I would recommend anybody that
Speaker 2: here in that area. It's definitely worth this thing. And
Speaker 2: I've got a list here that I'll go over. Next up,
Speaker 2: we've got the Reed House Hotel, which is in Chattanooga.
Speaker 2: I've been by there, but I haven't actually stayed there.
Speaker 2: Room three eleven in this historic coachel has remembered to
Speaker 2: be haunted by the ghost of Ane Lisa Netherly, a
Speaker 2: woman murdered in the room in the nineteen twenties. Guests
Speaker 2: that are reported seeing her apparition, as well as experiencing
Speaker 2: strange noises and unexplained occurrences. Have you ever been to Chattanooga.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have, maybe passing through going somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have some cousins who live down there,
Speaker 2: and I was young at the time, didn't spend a
Speaker 2: whole lot of time going places. But there are some
Speaker 2: creepy places anywhere any older city like that.
Speaker 1: That's something I've never really got to do, but I
Speaker 1: will plan on it. I want to go to some
Speaker 1: of these haunted attractions, preferably more her personal private tours
Speaker 1: instead of like the big group tours or something. Maybe
Speaker 1: like even doing an investigation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fun. And they have a website it's
Speaker 2: called the Red House Hotel ri a d t h
Speaker 2: Ria d Househotel dot com and They've got some really
Speaker 2: nice looking rooms there. At our historic Chattanooga hotel, we
Speaker 2: specialize in nineteen twenty splendor while catering to modern chase.
Speaker 2: The Red House is a dazzling jazz era gym with
Speaker 2: the trappings of a new hotel. Two hundred and forty
Speaker 2: one rooms and start Getaway boast soaring lobby ceilings, dramatic chandeliers,
Speaker 2: check the floors, and leaming wood clad walls. Plus apparently
Speaker 2: a ghost. I don't know if they mention it on
Speaker 2: the side. A lot of places don't. Let's look, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the room three eleven here, it is on their website.
Speaker 2: Legend has it there's a ghost among us. Learn more
Speaker 2: about Anna, Lisa and Nealie. The Reeds houses resident spirit,
Speaker 2: and there are many who believe Room three eleven is
Speaker 2: haunted by the ghost of Ana, Lisa and Nealie, a
Speaker 2: guest who is allegedly be headed in the bathtub Holy
Speaker 2: Cow by jealouslover in nineteen twenty seven. Over the years,
Speaker 2: a number of games paranormal activity in the room, including
Speaker 2: unexplained noises, flickering lights, running water, shadowy figures are more.
Speaker 2: The Hanty Room is well known by many locals have
Speaker 2: experienced paranormal activity their own and there's if you go
Speaker 2: check it out on their website, there's a lot more.
Speaker 2: There are another guests who stayed in room three eleven
Speaker 2: swear to have felt Elisa's presence, and some say they
Speaker 2: have even seen her. Room three eleven was restored to
Speaker 2: its original nineteen twenty state during the hotel's latest res renovation.
Speaker 2: Many of the original elements from Analys and Eily's time remain,
Speaker 2: including a vintage claw foot tub hopefully not the one
Speaker 2: who's beheaded in, and an am radio a throwback there man.
Speaker 2: The lock on the door requires the use of a
Speaker 2: physical key, just like hotel guests would have used in
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty seven, and tours of the room when it's
Speaker 2: not occupied are available. Funderquest at the availability of a
Speaker 2: tour guide. So if you're in Chattanooga, Tennessee and surrounds,
Speaker 2: go check out the Red House Hotel and maybe you'll
Speaker 2: be introduced to Analyse and Etheralie, who was allegedly beheaded
Speaker 2: in the bathtub in room three eleven. Spooky stuff there, competed, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the well, they're not abandoned, but
Speaker 1: they have been preserved and open to the public for
Speaker 1: such things like ghost hunts, ghost tours, is prisons, jails,
Speaker 1: prisons like Tennessee State Prison in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and another one that was on my list here
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be talking about, and I've been on
Speaker 2: her show. I'm trying to remember. Yeah, she was on
Speaker 2: this show too, Historic Scott County Jail in Huntsvill, Tennessee,
Speaker 2: close to Oh Night of There, Ghost Biker, ghost Biker,
Speaker 2: what's your name for a YouTube channel? Ghost Biker Roage
Speaker 2: or something like that. I've had her on and they've
Speaker 2: got all kinds of unexplained stuff. They're former jail said
Speaker 2: to be haunted by the spirits of former inmates who
Speaker 2: died within its walls. Visitors have reported hearing screams, seeing apparitions,
Speaker 2: and feeling uneasy in certain areas. And they have a
Speaker 2: website it's Historic Scott coo Jail dot com and they do.
Speaker 2: They're open five days a week for tours. They have
Speaker 2: a museum there built in nineteen know for jail is
Speaker 2: on the National Resurance Historic Places and located in Huntle, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: They have a true crime and Law enforcement appreciation museum
Speaker 2: spends all three fours in Historic Jail and can be
Speaker 2: viewed during daytime general business hours and if you enjoy
Speaker 2: the mysterious side, they offer flashlight tours, guided ghost hunts,
Speaker 2: and private paranormal investigations in our after dark tours there
Speaker 2: after dark tours. But check out their website there, Historic
Speaker 2: scottco Jail dot com. And they've got some events coming up,
Speaker 2: especially here in spooky season. They've got a Haunted History
Speaker 2: Walk and then they do their their after dark there.
Speaker 2: They have some book signings and they've gotten escape room
Speaker 2: and all kinds of stuff. Definitely if you go check
Speaker 2: it out, if you're in that area, the Huntsville area, I've.
Speaker 1: Got to haunt here that you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: kind of relatively unheard of. Her mynyway and it's a steamboat.
Speaker 1: It was It used to cruise the True Terry's the
Speaker 1: Mississippi River in American South. It was Doctor Chattanooga and
Speaker 1: operated as a floating hotel until it was bought by
Speaker 1: the Delta Steaboat Company. Mary Green is the name of
Speaker 1: the spirit that is said to linger on the ship,
Speaker 1: and she was a wife Green Line, founder of Gordon C. Green.
Speaker 1: She was a riverboat captain in her own ride and
Speaker 1: had she died in nineteen forty nine while aboard the boat.
Speaker 1: Witness to say she still hangs out near her former course. Well,
Speaker 1: i'd like to find out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to do that now I've done the
Speaker 2: They have a riverboat there at Knoxville. I've gone on
Speaker 2: a dinner carriese on that years ago. But I've seen
Speaker 2: the one in Chattanooga. They've got one in Nashville too,
Speaker 2: that you can see on the river there passed by.
Speaker 2: But I love those old river boats. Have you ever
Speaker 2: gotten to with one of the tours?
Speaker 1: No, have you bought the Queen Mary or anything like that?
Speaker 1: You need those.
Speaker 2: I've visited the Queen Mary, but I didn't didn't do
Speaker 2: the ghost hunt anytime. I think they've only started that racially.
Speaker 2: It's docked in Long Beach. But yeah, that said, I
Speaker 2: went on the I think the Star of Knoxville is
Speaker 2: the one that they have there on the Tennessee River Innoxville.
Speaker 2: People forget a lot of those towns in Tennessee are
Speaker 2: river towns. Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville. Uh, Knoxville probably wouldn't even
Speaker 2: be there if it wasn't for the river.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of something right now. It's probably not on
Speaker 1: either one of our lists.
Speaker 2: Hold on, say your dog agrees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you heard that. Hold on, Mike's moving to.
Speaker 2: Man because think it'll be right back with us here.
Speaker 2: I've got some other stuff coming up here. If you
Speaker 2: got any listeners in Tennessee, East, Middle, or West, let
Speaker 2: me know in the comments or get a hold let
Speaker 2: me say he's talk to eighty one at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Like to cover stuff in your area for more upcoming
Speaker 2: episodes of everything out there here on the gleig Lewis
Speaker 2: Ground zero Radio Network. Hope everybody's ready for a spooky season.
Speaker 2: Getting geared up here. My son holding he'll be a
Speaker 2: month old tomorrow. It's hard to believe, but we've already
Speaker 2: got him some outfits or Halloween and stuff. Looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. He'll be too little to trigger treat this year,
Speaker 2: Next year and beyond should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it being a boy dad.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's over up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just barely hear it. It's all good, just
Speaker 2: a little ambiance there.
Speaker 1: I guess season was thinking about he knows the recording,
Speaker 1: but he probably didn't think about you know, picking up
Speaker 1: or anything. When I'm thinking about it, is probably not
Speaker 1: on our list that I think you visited. My dad
Speaker 1: visited both been then to the water is the brother
Speaker 1: Mansion and Kingsport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rotherwood Mansion there, I've been down behind it. It's
Speaker 2: private property. I think a doctor lives there, and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go up in the yard and
Speaker 2: get in trouble. So there's a if you go past it.
Speaker 2: There's a little picnic area on the French Broad River
Speaker 2: down there on the behind it. And I actually walked
Speaker 2: along the river bank and got along the back of
Speaker 2: it and waded out about knee deep out there and
Speaker 2: later found out the water right there behind it. That's
Speaker 2: where they've seen the ghost of the girl that drowned herself,
Speaker 2: that lived there at one time. So what can you
Speaker 2: tell us about Rotherwood Mansion.
Speaker 1: It's reported to have at least two ghosts hunting the place,
Speaker 1: you know, given him his reputation was built in eighteen
Speaker 1: seventeen by Frederick Ross, founder of the town Roswell, which
Speaker 1: later became Kingsborg. He was father to a lady named Rowena.
Speaker 1: She supposedly fell in love with a man from a
Speaker 1: nearby town. After they got engaged. The man drowned after
Speaker 1: his boat capsized in the Holston River. There, her second
Speaker 1: husband also died of He died of yellow fever. Her
Speaker 1: third husband and her had a daughter, and the daughter died,
Speaker 1: so she committed. She committed herself there, ended her life,
Speaker 1: and she's believed to be the lady in white that
Speaker 1: haunts the mansion. Witnesses have seen her near the river banks,
Speaker 1: and some say she is searching for her first lover,
Speaker 1: who drowned long ago. Also in the Kingsport area is
Speaker 1: the place that's gained a lot of popularity through the years.
Speaker 1: It's called Sensible Tunnel. There's different stories about the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about that earlier when I knew you
Speaker 2: were gonna be young. We talked about that last time
Speaker 2: you're on this, But let's let's talk about that again.
Speaker 2: Tell us about Sensible Tunnel. You got some personal stories
Speaker 2: about there.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Now, my dad claims that when they
Speaker 1: were younger, him and his sisters and brothers, they went there,
Speaker 1: their car wouldn't start and like a bloody handprint just
Speaker 1: smacked right up on the side of the windshield or
Speaker 1: the side window of me. Finally the car started and
Speaker 1: they took off. Now he took me and my sister
Speaker 1: when we were kids, had a camper topping back his truck.
Speaker 1: I believe he got scared, is why he did this.
Speaker 1: But he's scared us so good. He crawled out of
Speaker 1: his window that way. We didn't hear the truck door.
Speaker 1: He'd come around through there and he just started beating
Speaker 1: and banging on the side of the truck. We screamed,
Speaker 1: he laughed. He got in the truck and we laughed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Uh. Reports say that there was a woman
Speaker 1: that fell in love with a man. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: for sure which one was Native American at this point,
Speaker 1: I believe maybe the man was. Either way, they fell
Speaker 1: in love. It's forbidden. They supposedly wasn't supposed to be together,
Speaker 1: and one of them jumped and killed theirself from the
Speaker 1: train trestle there near it. And another story states that
Speaker 1: it was a home invasion and somebody was shot and
Speaker 1: killed there in the home invasion. Something about a baby's
Speaker 1: included in there. You can hear a baby crying that
Speaker 1: may I'm from. I think that the lady jonped to
Speaker 1: her dead, perhaps with baby you know. I also heard
Speaker 1: that a baby was harmed and killed during the home invasion,
Speaker 1: so it could be coming.
Speaker 2: They supposedly took it and left it in the tunnel.
Speaker 2: There's several conflicting stories about that place. Some say that
Speaker 2: it's not haunted at all, that the man who owned it,
Speaker 2: whose property it was on, he was the one that
Speaker 2: told made up all those stories and he haunted it.
Speaker 2: But then supposedly then after he died, he came back
Speaker 2: and haunted it. So yeah, but it's a spooky place.
Speaker 2: It's one of those where you pull up and drive
Speaker 2: up there and park your car and put baby powder
Speaker 2: or flour on the car and then when you leave,
Speaker 2: you have a little handprints all over it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you can put your car neutral in
Speaker 1: some places like that. There's a place, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it's in Tennessee. You put your car neutral and
Speaker 1: maybe powder on the back your car, and you're I
Speaker 1: think there's like a little hill or railroad track and
Speaker 1: the car will actually move up and over it and
Speaker 1: you have little prints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard about that. There's one really famous one
Speaker 2: in Texas where supposedly a train hit a school bus
Speaker 2: full of kids and if you go and park your
Speaker 2: car on there, or stop your car on the train
Speaker 2: track and put it neutral, it's pushed across the tracks
Speaker 2: uphill by invisible hands. And if you put powder and
Speaker 2: flour on there, it's little hands. But apparently that's happened
Speaker 2: several places. It's just one of those urban legends that's
Speaker 2: got a bunch of different locations. But I think a
Speaker 2: lot of those somewhere it really did happen, and kind
Speaker 2: of like the telephone game when we were kids, whoever
Speaker 2: was telling it kind of updated it to somewhere that
Speaker 2: they knew about because my mom and dad. My dad
Speaker 2: was from Middle Tennessee Overventrice County. My mom was from
Speaker 2: a from the Kate's, Cobert, the Smoky's, or Ramsey, and
Speaker 2: they heard some of the same stories growing up. Just
Speaker 2: different locations, but you know, a couple hundred miles apart
Speaker 2: and six years apart, so those tails have legs, the
Speaker 2: tails travel. I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think there's a little bit of truth in all the
Speaker 1: Lord legends. You know, it stems from something. Apparently it
Speaker 1: was worth mentioning it to give it enough flex to
Speaker 1: carry out through the years, you know, become what they're
Speaker 1: known for. I think some truth lies in all of them.
Speaker 1: There's another tunnel that's said to be hone in your sensible,
Speaker 1: I believe it's a time. I'm still looking into that,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna know more on that one. It's just
Speaker 1: it's not as popular as sense of all. But maybe
Speaker 1: it's a little more public accessible. Maybe you won't get
Speaker 1: them shot at or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the legalities go into sense about
Speaker 2: how long I said, I've been there, but I was
Speaker 2: with some people from the area, so I don't know
Speaker 2: if they had permission, but I hope they did. I
Speaker 2: was riding in their car. But it is a creepy
Speaker 2: place nonetheless.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I've been there and me and my friend,
Speaker 1: her boyfriend at time, he didn't hear anything, but me
Speaker 1: and her we heard her name was there. We heard
Speaker 1: what we thought was there was water trickling. You could
Speaker 1: definitely hear that. There's a cadence to that. But then
Speaker 1: it changed like somebody was walking in it and it
Speaker 1: was getting closer, and then you could almost hear like
Speaker 1: that a faint echo of somebody talking, and it kept
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer, and we didn't see anybody, so
Speaker 1: we just backed out, were backed on right on now
Speaker 1: there we couldn't see anything, but something definitely was audible
Speaker 1: and coming closer, and we're like, no time to go.
Speaker 1: We saw well we saw nothing hurt enough, you know. Now.
Speaker 1: The same thing could be said for the mansion there,
Speaker 1: Rutherford Mansion and King Sports. Some say it's not honted
Speaker 1: at all. The others, you know, swear that it's honed.
Speaker 2: The southing there, Yeah, it's cirry, nonetheless, especially being in
Speaker 2: the river back there it was and I didn't realize
Speaker 2: until later that that was the water where they see
Speaker 2: the spirit of the girl. But uh, it was interesting nonetheless.
Speaker 2: And another one I've got on my list here is
Speaker 2: Historic Rugby. Have you ever been to Rugby?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: It's just not too far from the Scott County Jail there.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of on the way. It's a
Speaker 2: Victorian era village said to be home to several ghosts,
Speaker 2: including a former owner, Brian stagg An, a young woman
Speaker 2: named Isabelle who haunts the Taverdin Mistress. Have reported seeing apparitions,
Speaker 2: hearing footsteps, feeling cold spots. Now, from what I've heard,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a not a corporate community there in
Speaker 2: Morgan and Scott Counties, founded in eighteen eighty by English
Speaker 2: author Thomas Hughes. It was built as an experimental utopian colony.
Speaker 2: While it largely failed, there's a small community that still
Speaker 2: lingers there and they've started redoing it. They've got like
Speaker 2: a new subdivision over there. But all the houses are
Speaker 2: built in Victorian style, so it's pretty cool. But I've
Speaker 2: heard that every building over there is haunted to some degree. Now,
Speaker 2: there was a place I used to like to stop
Speaker 2: and eat over there called the Harrow Road Cafe. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's there anymore. I think I heard that
Speaker 2: it burnt down, but they're rebuilding it. But a strange
Speaker 2: over there, that particularly the library and some of those houses.
Speaker 2: So let's see. Let me take a look here. There's
Speaker 2: an Episcopal church there, the Thomas Hughes Library, Kingston Lyle,
Speaker 2: which is a Queen Anne style cottage, Percy Cottone, the
Speaker 2: house named Roslind and these are all from the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: The Walton Court, the Rugby Commissary, Adena Cottage, Wren's Nest,
Speaker 2: the Windon's Newbury House, Honor Dock House, Pioneer Cottage, Martins
Speaker 2: Roust Oak Lodge, Ovington House and the Clubhouse and Twin
Speaker 2: Oaks all those are from the eighteen hundreds at all,
Speaker 2: supposedly hated, but it's interesting to go check that out.
Speaker 2: And if you can hear that noise in the background
Speaker 2: that's holding voicing his displeased.
Speaker 1: Something, he's just chiming and he's a beautiful baby boy.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, anybody that would like to see him,
Speaker 2: come to my YouTube channel Missing Person's Mysteries for one
Speaker 2: of my live streams. I'd have him on there, and
Speaker 2: also some of the other places of where I go
Speaker 2: live like Versutloor Audio with Lee g and then Monday
Speaker 2: Nights with Cisco Murdoch Journey through the Gate Paranormal Portal podcast.
Speaker 2: He's been on there with me a couple of times,
Speaker 2: but he's already got international fans. He's quite a little gentleman.
Speaker 1: And the brothers at the Belief Hoe too, they they
Speaker 1: were kind enough to send the little gift and as
Speaker 1: you know, they said, congratulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got to get them on this show.
Speaker 2: We keep missing connections and stuff. They want me back
Speaker 2: on their show of the Belief Whole podcast on YouTube
Speaker 2: and did it was an excellent show. That's of all
Speaker 2: the shows I've been on. I've been a guest on
Speaker 2: a lot of shows, that was probably my favorite appearance.
Speaker 1: Obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh Nicole's a big fan of theirs and
Speaker 2: she got to sit like in the virtual audience and
Speaker 2: watch the whole the things. She was the first uh
Speaker 2: stage guest or whatever you want to call it on there.
Speaker 2: So that's a good time. That was before I moved
Speaker 2: to New Mexico here and got married, so we were
Speaker 2: still doing a long distance thing at that point, but
Speaker 2: it might for a wonderful episode. I got to tell
Speaker 2: a lot of stories and everybody really dug it. Let
Speaker 2: me take a look here and see. Currently that's Belief
Speaker 2: whole podcast all one word on YouTube and the video popular. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm still the number one spot just a little over
Speaker 2: a year ago, four hundred and seven thousand views. And
Speaker 2: the other two most popular episodes they talked about me
Speaker 2: on it, Missing for one one the Portal Theory with
Speaker 2: a Fairies, Bigfoot, National Apartment Mysteries and Missing for one
Speaker 2: one the Containment Theory. Those both overwred and fifty thousand views.
Speaker 2: So go check out The brothers Chris, John and Jeremy
Speaker 2: the Belief Whole Podcast tell them. Steve Stockt and.
Speaker 1: Sent you a couple of the twins. There one recently moved,
Speaker 1: John moved. I'm not sure we've moved. He he recently moved. So,
Speaker 1: and there's getting situationd he's getting situated to back down.
Speaker 1: And they should have a show on. They come on
Speaker 1: Sundays too, every by see every two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't see if they've got one scheduled.
Speaker 1: I think there dude to have come on to Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got something. I'm in their expansion. I subscribe
Speaker 2: to that. So let's see. They had just had one
Speaker 2: eleven days ago. Yes, and they should be back on Sunday.
Speaker 1: But good stuff technically be tonight sometimes the last.
Speaker 2: One Dark Synagogue, skin Walker Shacked, the tutlou Man, the
Speaker 2: other episodes of Monster, Men of the Reservation, Other World,
Speaker 2: Early Odors, Psychic Mansion, Secrets of the Occult, Cold War,
Speaker 2: true paranormal stories, including Harper's Fairy Walking Bushes Wide. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just every show they have is absolutely amazing. I love
Speaker 2: those guys. Ss. We got to get them on here
Speaker 2: and they said they come on, but we just we
Speaker 2: keep missing each other. They're busy.
Speaker 1: Now. You started out watching them, and i'd actually just
Speaker 1: watched a show or two of them, and when you
Speaker 1: had asked me if i'd watched them before, a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about them yet, but I got
Speaker 1: into them. Absolutely love them. I'm not really big podcasts
Speaker 1: and stuff, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were aware of my channel. And I
Speaker 2: was watching episode one time, and I think it was Chris.
Speaker 2: He was sitting at his desk and he had had
Speaker 2: these books behind him, and I saw the spine of
Speaker 2: one of my books, and I went back and paused,
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, that that's I think it's my
Speaker 2: National Park Missters. This appearances by one of the great
Speaker 2: Smokey Mountains. I believe that was the one he had
Speaker 2: back there, and I took a screenshot of it, and
Speaker 2: I messaged and emailed him and said, hey, thanks for
Speaker 2: having my book here. I'd love to be on the
Speaker 2: show sometimes. And that's we just start talking like that.
Speaker 1: It all came about and they were like, is this
Speaker 1: the real estate stalked him. I said, I can assure
Speaker 1: you it is tickle to see you there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got some fans over there now. Later we're
Speaker 2: recording this Friday night for air date Sunday, but later tonight,
Speaker 2: I'm doing live on Missing Person Mystery channel Creepy Late
Speaker 2: Night Live, kind of kicking off a spooky season twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four here and I posted about it on their
Speaker 2: Facebook group and got some responses over there. But looking
Speaker 2: forward to it, and I think Lee's going to join me,
Speaker 2: maybe even on camera tonight if he's up and around
Speaker 2: and it feels like and I thought, I've got some
Speaker 2: some stories. I'm going to read and tell some stories.
Speaker 2: And I thought if he could do a little spooky
Speaker 2: piano or synthesizer thing behind it live, that might be cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to do that, but
Speaker 2: so don't be disappointed if you go back and watch
Speaker 2: it and that didn't happen. But if all, if the
Speaker 2: star is the line, it'll go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he may very well do it, but you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully he and.
Speaker 2: I got some other projects we're working on for one
Speaker 2: of my YouTube channels called Tales Untold, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be amazing and get it ready. It'll be just soon soon,
Speaker 2: That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was your channel among the Missing You've just
Speaker 1: rebranded the name there, and yeah what.
Speaker 2: I went back to a Missing Person Mysteries and became
Speaker 2: owner of that channel outside. Instead of having two missing
Speaker 2: person channels, I just moved the missing person stuff over there,
Speaker 2: rebranded among the missing Tales, untold and too immersive storytelling
Speaker 2: over there. I think of about one hundred and fourty
Speaker 2: case subscribers over there, So come check us out. I've
Speaker 2: got some good stuff currently working my way through dark
Speaker 2: tales from every state. Connecticut is the next one up.
Speaker 1: I've always heard that the Allendale Mansion. I'm sure you're
Speaker 1: familiar with that in Kingsport. It's well, it's that I
Speaker 1: think it's technically Churchill.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it. I've never been there, but can
Speaker 2: you enlighten us, can you tell us some more about it?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, well it's in Kingsport, Tennessee. It's uh they've
Speaker 1: got like, uh in a state looking house, and then
Speaker 1: near it they've got like an older looking house and
Speaker 1: a barn. They do ghost hunts, or not ghost hunts,
Speaker 1: but they do the area.
Speaker 2: They do the.
Speaker 1: Like the they redo the barn that to make it
Speaker 1: like a haunted attraction, and people come and pay them,
Speaker 1: you know, to go through there. And get their get
Speaker 1: the daylight scared out of them. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: when it may have been built. I'm not sure when
Speaker 1: it was built, but it's like in you know, one
Speaker 1: of the little busiest areas. They're going to Kingsport. It's
Speaker 1: forty for forty four stone drive in Kingsport. I do
Speaker 1: know that a lot of people use it for weddings
Speaker 1: and other celebrations. Uh a lot of weddings. You can
Speaker 1: go by there at any given time and see people
Speaker 1: just all decked out, flowers and arrangements everywhere. First, the
Speaker 1: haunted history, I don't know that much about it, but
Speaker 1: I've always heard that it's reportally hanted. I have some
Speaker 1: things written here about it. If I can kind it,
Speaker 1: I just can't recall. I'm sorry about that. Have you
Speaker 1: heard anything about it? I know that you're familiar with this.
Speaker 2: I just I've heard of it, but I really don't
Speaker 2: know other than it's purported to be haunted. I don't
Speaker 2: know of any particular hauntings or any of the details,
Speaker 2: but most places like that, if people say that it's haunted,
Speaker 2: there's something that's gone down there.
Speaker 1: I would like to know some more personal accounts. I mean, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Legend. You know, it's a beautiful
Speaker 1: little place though, definitely.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me see what else I've got on my
Speaker 2: list here. Next up one that I'm very familiar with,
Speaker 2: The Bisu Theater in Knoxville. Historic theater is said to
Speaker 2: be haunted by several ghosts, including a former stage and
Speaker 2: andy young girl. Staff and visitors have reported seeing appara's,
Speaker 2: hearing strange noises and feeling coal spots. And I got
Speaker 2: some information more information about it. It's at eight oh
Speaker 2: three South Gay Street, Knoxville, Tennessee. And they've got a
Speaker 2: wonderful website knoxbiju dot org. On the history tab, it
Speaker 2: gives you all information about it. Eighteen oh one to
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty six, it was one of the premier hotels
Speaker 2: in Knoxville, began as the Lamar House and sitting out
Speaker 2: a parcel land once granted to Revolutionary War general James White.
Speaker 2: And there's James White Fort there in Knoxville. Two. It's
Speaker 2: believed to be the oldest commercially active property in Knoxville,
Speaker 2: probably in Tennessee, and then during the Civil War eighteen
Speaker 2: fifty seven era ownership of the building again changed hands,
Speaker 2: this time with Colonel William H. Snead, the owner of
Speaker 2: an adjacent property, and he leaves the building for profit,
Speaker 2: and the hotel passed through a success to tenants. Still,
Speaker 2: the Lamar House continued to serve as the center of
Speaker 2: the Knoxville social scene and underwent still more opument remodeling.
Speaker 2: That was the years eighteen fifty seven to nineteen oh
Speaker 2: eight and then nineteen oh eight to nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 2: Vaudeville came to Knoxville. In nineteen oh eight, the Auditorium
Speaker 2: Company purchased the property and began renovations to remodel and
Speaker 2: transformed the ballroom into the theater named Jake Wells Visue Theater,
Speaker 2: the first time that the Visu name was attached to
Speaker 2: the original Lamar House building. The Lamar House will continue
Speaker 2: to operate as a hotel, store, and restaurant. It was
Speaker 2: financed by three of Knoxville's prominent citizens, the Cbatkin, Missus
Speaker 2: Janette Count and W. G. Brownlow madging partners Jack Was
Speaker 2: and Fitztram Little Knoxville history there for everybody playing along,
Speaker 2: and then nineteen thirty five to nineteen sixty nine Paramount
Speaker 2: Pictures distribution subsidy in nineteen thirty five, took a thirty
Speaker 2: year release on the VISU and operated as a movie
Speaker 2: house to show second runs and holdovers and films that
Speaker 2: had already been shown at the Tennessee Theater, which is
Speaker 2: basically just Caddy Corner across the three Street, and it's
Speaker 2: one of those Art deco gyms. It's a real show place.
Speaker 2: The sentiment still on occasion did turn the stage, overturned
Speaker 2: performers and orchestras, saw many noble performers. Then, in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five, when their thirty year lease was up, Paramount
Speaker 2: Pictures decided not to renew and it became an adult
Speaker 2: movie house. Was changed to the Biju Art Theater, and
Speaker 2: then in the early seventies it was beque to the
Speaker 2: Church Street United met the Church. They were going to
Speaker 2: tear it down. They were unhappy about owning a once
Speaker 2: silver reputed place. They sold it to a Noxville businessman
Speaker 2: and then it was finally closed due to unpaid rent
Speaker 2: and amusement taxes. And then in two thousand and five
Speaker 2: the mayor at that time Bill has Them, brought it
Speaker 2: back and they two thousand and six the doors opened
Speaker 2: again and it's remained so with a healthy board management company.
Speaker 2: But it is very, very very hearty. There's a restaurant
Speaker 2: there called the Beestrope to Visu. I was in there
Speaker 2: to function once when I was going to law school,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't get to the bathroom because there was
Speaker 2: another party of people there and I could couldn't squeeze through.
Speaker 2: So I went out to go to the bathroom in
Speaker 2: the lobby. I knew there was a bathroom out there
Speaker 2: where the lights were off. I couldn't find the bathroom,
Speaker 2: so I thought, well, I know there's one up on
Speaker 2: the mezzanine. So I don't know what possessed me, but
Speaker 2: I went up the steps toward the mezzanine in the dark,
Speaker 2: and on the staircase there I felt just a light
Speaker 2: touch caressed my arm. So I turned around and headed
Speaker 2: my ass back down the stairs and went outside and
Speaker 2: around and feed on the behind the dumpster or something there.
Speaker 2: But another time I was in there at night and
Speaker 2: I heard sounded like somebody. I was in the restaurant
Speaker 2: of the bistro, and that time I went out to
Speaker 2: use the bathroom and the bathroom was just right there
Speaker 2: in the lobby. I don't know how I missed at
Speaker 2: the previous time, but this time I heard what sounded
Speaker 2: like somebody rehearsing for a play, and so I sound
Speaker 2: like to perform as a man and a woman, and
Speaker 2: they were trading lions back and forth, and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna peek.
Speaker 1: In on this.
Speaker 2: I opened one of the doors into the theater. Black,
Speaker 2: totally black. He was the exit sign in the back
Speaker 2: of the theater. So as I cracked the door open,
Speaker 2: the voices stopped and the hair stood up on my arms.
Speaker 2: I knew I'd interrupted something there. And also that's one
Speaker 2: of those places, along with the Tennessee, where there's somebody
Speaker 2: that sits up in the balcony when there's not supposed
Speaker 2: to be anybody up there. A lot of theaters have
Speaker 2: that type of ghost. But another time i'd gone in there,
Speaker 2: I was with some people and I didn't experience anything
Speaker 2: that time, but they person I was with, they took
Speaker 2: their daughter into the lady's room and I heard them.
Speaker 2: I thought they were laughing, screaming and going on. Came out.
Speaker 2: They were scared crazy. They were in a stall and
Speaker 2: the next stall, which there was nobody in because they've looked.
Speaker 2: When they went in there, they heard it flush, and
Speaker 2: then the door shut, and then the water turned on
Speaker 2: on the sink. They opened their stall, looked out, and
Speaker 2: the water's on at the sink, and there's nobody in there.
Speaker 2: So they finished their business up ran out screaming. That's
Speaker 2: the Visu Theater in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I found some of my notes here for the Allendale
Speaker 1: Mansion is constructed just in the early nineteen hundreds. It's
Speaker 1: an opulent mansion. It's supposedly haunted by this stropped bride
Speaker 1: who not stopped looking for her lost s loove. It's
Speaker 1: got enormous halls said to evoke sense of sorrow and
Speaker 1: haunting apparitions for being spotted by visitors. It's the attraction
Speaker 1: is enhanced by heartbreaking tale of the love born bride.
Speaker 1: That's in quotes, so I must have got that from somewhere.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just a tragic love story and it's
Speaker 1: built nearly not teen hundreds. Amazing the visual theater that's
Speaker 1: in one of your books.
Speaker 2: I believe too, Yeah, very much, that story that I
Speaker 2: just told it. I talk about it in my Strange
Speaker 2: World among my personal paranormal experiences.
Speaker 1: Now, Steve, I'm going to mention the hospital here, but
Speaker 1: that reminds me of when you recently mentioned a haunted
Speaker 1: hospital that used to be up near a place where
Speaker 1: you lived. They recently opened to the public for ghost hunting.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it. I think the town
Speaker 1: might have started with an R or near or No, wait,
Speaker 1: what is it? Didn't you remember?
Speaker 2: No, Jock my memory. I'm trying to think, is it
Speaker 2: when I lived in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: No, I think it was like around Knox Full Arcade's
Speaker 1: Cove in that area. It's a haunted hospital. I was
Speaker 1: thinking the name started with an R.
Speaker 2: I am totally drawn a black hair.
Speaker 1: I looked at my notes here too, so I can
Speaker 1: find that one hospital. Though it's relatively popular. It's been
Speaker 1: on several ghost shows, and they've got this wall where
Speaker 1: they signed their name, you know, visitors signed their name.
Speaker 1: It's called the Old South Pittsburgh Hospital in South Pittsburgh, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's like if you're going south toward Atlanta,
Speaker 2: trying to know in that direction. Down in there, there's
Speaker 2: some other spooky stuff down there.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be full of former patients. You know,
Speaker 1: the spectral remains, apparitions, footsteps, voices, is hanging in the air,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I've got some stuff on the screen here
Speaker 2: that the audience can't say. Can you see the screen?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, say my message there at the bottom,
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 1: There's a Union Station hotel in Nashville, m It blends
Speaker 1: elegance with persistent sense of sorrow as well. It's rumored
Speaker 1: that the opulent hallways and this hotel holnded by the
Speaker 1: spirit of young woman who tragically did the quite hours
Speaker 1: of the night. Guests describe hearing airy footsteps and seeing
Speaker 1: flickering lights. It's originally a busy train station. It's now
Speaker 1: a paramal hotspot where guests are encouraged to spend time
Speaker 1: with insign ghosts from another peer. They invite anybody who's
Speaker 1: drawn to its interior as one of the mysterious shadows
Speaker 1: that dance there, even while the sounds of some of
Speaker 1: her stories linger. You know, just book it, come on by.
Speaker 1: There's a plantation house too in Rosemont, Gallatin, Tennessee. It's
Speaker 1: a plantation house, anabellum charm. It has a sinister mystery.
Speaker 1: It's remembered that the original owner's daughter, Mary Adeline Henderson, hostagrounds.
Speaker 1: Visitors have seen her apparition dressed in white, which heightens
Speaker 1: the mansion's charm. There's stories of unfulfilled blood there as
Speaker 1: well a life snatched away. It's a monument to the
Speaker 1: feelings of people who endured there through the years. Mary
Speaker 1: Adeline's ethereal presence creates lasting impressions, invites visors to feel
Speaker 1: the lingering sadness of the past. Now, just touch on
Speaker 1: another prison, another popular place. It's the Brushy Mountain State
Speaker 1: penitent Penitentiary in Tennessee. Now it's it's got all kinds
Speaker 1: of stories attached to that one. The atmosphere is just spooky.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a prison. You might catch sight of
Speaker 1: condemned individuals who admit their untimely ends there. Beyond disclosure
Speaker 1: is uh dilpilated prison cells. I know that the cafeteria
Speaker 1: is remembered to be very haunted in it. There's accounts
Speaker 1: of chairs being violently slid across the room. There's been
Speaker 1: a black figures spotted there, shadow figures. We're pretty frighteneding
Speaker 1: to see such things in the dark. With just a
Speaker 1: little flashlight or even through a thermal imager. Infamous Criminals
Speaker 1: Martin luc Juniors killer James L. Ray H was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Alachiana, who's been on this show. He has
Speaker 2: some amazing, amazing e VP electronic voice, but on our recordings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely love together. It's got a sword passed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I would want to spend
Speaker 2: the night in there though.
Speaker 1: Not not trying to sleep or anything, but I would
Speaker 1: like to be there at night and have a quick
Speaker 1: getaway exit planned out. Yeah. Now, if you just look
Speaker 1: up that place it's set in, there's like virtually no
Speaker 1: way to escape that that being seen is surrounded by
Speaker 1: very steep mountains by behind it on the either side
Speaker 1: of it, and all you can see is just the
Speaker 1: front and then behind it's just covered in trees and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like sheer, a sheer mountain. It just instead it
Speaker 1: right there for you. But there's other famous people I
Speaker 1: just can't remember who.
Speaker 2: That was a big one. James o'ray and Tattoo Eddie
Speaker 2: was there too. He was the Rocky Top murders in
Speaker 2: Gallenburg back in the eighties. He was the perpetrator that
Speaker 2: and the Rocky Top end where they've had the hauntings
Speaker 2: and stuff. It's gone now. There's there's a quality inn
Speaker 2: or something in there. But where that was, they used
Speaker 2: to see just the legs of a lady running around
Speaker 2: the water fountain there in the back. They had a
Speaker 2: water feature out in the back parking lot, but it
Speaker 2: was tied to those murders. That was a scary, scary thing. Also,
Speaker 2: the on that was on River Road Gallenberg. It's they've
Speaker 2: changed the name of think it's this historic Nature Trail
Speaker 2: road or something now. But there was a holiday end
Speaker 2: up there where there was some murders too. Hollow Do
Speaker 2: Home and that was haunted and h there was a
Speaker 2: like a kitchen thing down behind it like that they
Speaker 2: used to entertain, like kids and things. That was haunted
Speaker 2: to the guy that worked there, he was a chep
Speaker 2: or something. He died and they would still see him
Speaker 2: in there. There's a lot of haunted stuff in Gallenburg
Speaker 2: and severe Buem and Pigeon Forwards, that whole area up there.
Speaker 1: Now we've all heard of cry baby bridges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are everywhere every little community, every wide spot
Speaker 2: in the road, especially down south, he's got a cry
Speaker 2: baby bridge or a lady in white that walks the bridge.
Speaker 2: And there's some some other cry baby stories. My granddad
Speaker 2: on my mom's side, he used to tell the cry
Speaker 2: Baby House where a lady went crazy and buried her
Speaker 2: baby in the basement, and they say, on the stormy night,
Speaker 2: you could hear it crying in the basement, and he
Speaker 2: and some other guys actually heard that. I don't know,
Speaker 2: scary stuff.
Speaker 1: There's one that's at the just across the Tennessee state
Speaker 1: line in Columbus, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: It's the state and up near Mountain City. There's one
Speaker 2: up there too, out in Johnson County. I can't remember
Speaker 2: where it's at, but a lady it's I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a crybaby bridge, but a lady in White bridge.
Speaker 2: And then there's another one up there where supposedly somebody's
Speaker 2: entombed in the cement where they were building the bridge.
Speaker 2: That was the rumor that I heard. So you get
Speaker 2: to get into these little communities, there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: rumors and stories and legends and things. I love that.
Speaker 2: I mean, just little wide spots on the road, but
Speaker 2: they've got stories to tell, and a lot of times
Speaker 2: is unheard of outside that little community. So and I've
Speaker 2: talked about that when I do travel. Uh, that's you.
Speaker 2: You want to go to the old folks homes and
Speaker 2: talk to those people. They know all the stories and legends,
Speaker 2: and you want to go wherever the young people hang
Speaker 2: out at the skateboard parks and things like that, and say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to go parking, where's a
Speaker 2: good haunted spot.
Speaker 1: Yep, definitely there devils they there. You go stay in there.
Speaker 1: You know, kids, kids will be kids.
Speaker 2: They got another one here called the Loats House and
Speaker 2: that's spelled our lo Otz, but it rhymes with boats.
Speaker 2: Built eighteen fifty eight in the central Tennessee miltenancy town
Speaker 2: of Franklin, which Tennessee used to be the state of Franklin.
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee part of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I believe the oldest towns or yeah.
Speaker 2: And this Civil War era house was the site of
Speaker 2: a bloody battle and it's said to be haunted by
Speaker 2: the soldiers who died there and report seeing apparitions, hearing footsteps,
Speaker 2: and filling coal spots. And that's one thing about Tennessee.
Speaker 2: There's all these there's big battles. You know, we'll get
Speaker 2: to some of those in a minute. But there was
Speaker 2: little skirmishes and stuff, and in places even like Fort Sanders.
Speaker 2: There in Noxle Battle of Fort Sanders, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of bloodshed there. There was a ditch that they had
Speaker 2: dug and supposedly they shot so many people and they
Speaker 2: fell in the ditch that the next wave could like
Speaker 2: walk over the corpses to get up the hill. So
Speaker 2: no wonder there's hauntings in a place like that.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of everything in Tennessee. There's cryptid stories,
Speaker 1: ufo stories, ghost stories.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's one I believe it's either from Middle
Speaker 2: or West and Sea that I remember seeing when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, a picture of a kangaroo and a
Speaker 2: farmer's cornfield. And you and I both know the kangaroos
Speaker 2: aren't indigenous to Tennessee. So in the nineteen fifties, where
Speaker 2: the kangaroo come from? You know, there's always that story
Speaker 2: about a circus train or a private zoo where they escaped,
Speaker 2: but who knows, But there was a picture of it
Speaker 2: just happily bounding to a cornfield.
Speaker 1: There's a story of a well, a ghost doctor around
Speaker 1: where the Rutherford Mansion was. Its own Netherlands. In Road
Speaker 1: Highway ghosts Bristol Highway, there's a honted. It's said to
Speaker 1: be honted by a long dog family pet that is
Speaker 1: brutally killeds outlaw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no's that's something I've I've heard stories of as
Speaker 2: a ghosts of pets and things. I've got a story
Speaker 2: in Ings and Sartach things in the woods where there
Speaker 2: was a dog that these people would see after it
Speaker 2: passed away, and it basically appeared to everybody except the
Speaker 2: guy that it belonged to. But his brother saw it,
Speaker 2: his children saw it, his parents saw it, but he
Speaker 2: never saw it. But they'd always see it, like just
Speaker 2: going around the corner of the house or at the
Speaker 2: edge of the woods or something like that. But I
Speaker 2: think animals can come back. Now I've told the story
Speaker 2: about the guy back in the eighties, I spent the
Speaker 2: night at his house and slept a spare room. Sometime
Speaker 2: during the night I felt a cat come jump up
Speaker 2: in the bed, curled up down at my feet, purr.
Speaker 2: And next morning I get up and he's cooking breakfast.
Speaker 2: I said, if you're looking for your cat, it spent
Speaker 2: the night with me last night. He looked at me. Strange,
Speaker 2: and he said, Steve, he said that cat's been dead
Speaker 2: for years, but I felt it. And he said he
Speaker 2: had felt it too, and then heard it and never
Speaker 2: had seen it. But I mean it was clear that
Speaker 2: it jumped up on the bed and curled up purr
Speaker 2: and at my feet. I just assumed it as a cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel a way, the depression and even
Speaker 1: some heat or vibration of the purr. I've heard. It's
Speaker 1: very strange. It can be comforting, but it can also
Speaker 1: be upsetting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if i'd known that the cat who wasn't there?
Speaker 2: What it scared the life out of it.
Speaker 1: According to legend, true story, the long dog that was really.
Speaker 2: Fighting out there just a little bit. If they I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's your microphone or.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's better, okay.
Speaker 1: But as the story goes in like nineteen twenty two
Speaker 1: on the Fogging Up, five men were joy riding in
Speaker 1: the Model tea damn rush full of pie and you're
Speaker 1: both for bridge when the dog round out in front
Speaker 1: of them. The driver swerved to miss the animal and
Speaker 1: they crashed into the bridge. There was no animal, no animals,
Speaker 1: but they he saw it to the point where he's
Speaker 1: swerving the music and crashes. There was no animal anywhere.
Speaker 1: I guess dog would call anybody you want to run
Speaker 1: out rig But you know, if it's like the some
Speaker 1: tape theory, it could just be reliving this last moment
Speaker 1: or something could have been anything.
Speaker 2: Or sometimes I think it's from another dimension or something
Speaker 2: like that, a different timeline or something that. I don't
Speaker 2: think every ghost is a spirit or even a ghost,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, two of those boys that when people arrived, two
Speaker 1: of the guys, there was five of them. Two of
Speaker 1: them were already deceased.
Speaker 2: And you know, and outside of Oak Ridge, there where
Speaker 2: I used to live, there was a place where a
Speaker 2: guy on a motorcycle had ran through a barbed bar
Speaker 2: fence and cut his head off back after the war.
Speaker 2: And they claimed that you could back up in the
Speaker 2: dirt road and put your thanks, your backup lights or
Speaker 2: something on, and you could see the guy's head in
Speaker 2: the bushes. And I went with a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: They were teenagers, as my best friend and his older
Speaker 2: sisters who was teenagers, and their boyfriends, and we were
Speaker 2: probably we might have been ten, but we went along
Speaker 2: with them and they backed Upenis sure enough there was
Speaker 2: something back in there that that looked like I had.
Speaker 2: There was screams and yelling and crying and we got
Speaker 2: out of there. But that's Postal Mountain Hill Lake there
Speaker 2: and Nokridge Gordon toward Clinton on the what they call
Speaker 2: the River Road past the bull and.
Speaker 1: Steam Plant, there's the ghost of a man. It's seen
Speaker 1: on foggy nights too. On another Linen road, he vers
Speaker 1: trench coator hat what scar steps out to the middle
Speaker 1: of the room waving his arms. People served.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard something like that also in the Solway
Speaker 2: community there in East Tennessee. The guy was coming around
Speaker 2: a curvy country road there at night. Came around this
Speaker 2: blind curve and what looked like somebody standing the road,
Speaker 2: and then he drove through it. Whatever it was, it's
Speaker 2: like a spirit or something, because he thought I'll hit somebody,
Speaker 2: but just went right through it. And I had no
Speaker 2: idea what that was, but yeah, he drove through what
Speaker 2: appeared to be somebody in the road where that didn't
Speaker 2: hit anything. It was a specters of shade or spirit
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it. And that was
Speaker 2: close to Beaver Creek there where there's they've heard phantom
Speaker 2: horses down in that area. There there were some guys
Speaker 2: that had robbed the depot there in Solway in the
Speaker 2: strong box back in the railroad days, and they took
Speaker 2: off up that way and hit out. Uh there's a
Speaker 2: cave there and their initials and the dates still scratching
Speaker 2: the wall there, and they caught up with him and
Speaker 2: killed them. But they say at night you can hear
Speaker 2: those hoofbaates and hear horses run through it. My dad
Speaker 2: had heard them before. I never was in there at night.
Speaker 2: And then right across from where that was, there's a
Speaker 2: church cemetery that's haunted. I've talked about my Now that's
Speaker 2: not the beaver Ridge cemetery. This is a different one,
Speaker 2: but uh, it's my whole Methodist cemetery. But talk about
Speaker 2: that in my storage world.
Speaker 1: But somebody had saw this man standing. It's foggy and
Speaker 1: he steps out waving his arms. Somebody actually says, you know,
Speaker 1: I swore that they hit this person. You know it
Speaker 1: was with we pavement the car structure man and terrified,
Speaker 1: he pulls off the road, walks back over. The man
Speaker 1: had been standing. There's no there.
Speaker 2: It was like the one story I got where they
Speaker 2: something was crawling across the road and they thought it
Speaker 2: looked like a man in a wetsuit. They hid it
Speaker 2: and there was blood on the car. They went back
Speaker 2: and looked, but they couldn't find anything. Now, that's that's creepy.
Speaker 2: And then Cisco's got a story from about the same
Speaker 2: area where her and her mom were driving through and
Speaker 2: they saw something on the side of the road. And
Speaker 2: she's got another story where she saw a babyfoot, like
Speaker 2: a baby bigfoot, sitting on the side of the road
Speaker 2: looking sad. So there's there's all kinds of stuff out
Speaker 2: on the sides of those country roads. As Cisco likes
Speaker 2: to say, there's all kinds of ship out there. Definitely,
Speaker 2: you got to hear her say it. Just imagine her
Speaker 2: saying that in her voice. That's just Yes, that's a quote.
Speaker 2: I'd like to have that on a T shirt.
Speaker 1: She talks about all kinds of stuff herself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been doing some stuff for Spooky. He sees
Speaker 2: a lot of old time radio creepy stuff. Ben Surprised
Speaker 2: and CBS Mister Theater. But check out her YouTube channel listeners.
Speaker 2: That's Journey through the Gate Paranormal Portal podcast. This is
Speaker 2: Coburdoc on YouTube, and I think she's un rumbled too. Yeah, well, Catheda,
Speaker 2: we've reached the halfway point. I'm going to take a
Speaker 2: little break here. We'll be back in about five minutes
Speaker 2: and do a commercial message here, and then either coming up,
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Speaker 2: When now.
Speaker 1: Now? Don't want that? Don't want that? Man?
Speaker 2: That's Lee g from First Horror Audio with shutters here
Speaker 2: on everything out there. I'm Steve Stockton. We're back for
Speaker 2: the second hour guest tonight, East Tennessee and and it
Speaker 2: may be related to Cathedra, cat Gray and the Rogersville there.
Speaker 2: I don't think she'll mind me talking about where she's from,
Speaker 2: waiting for her to come back here. Now we're talking
Speaker 2: about the Visuo Theater there in Knoxville. I'm briefly mentioned.
Speaker 2: Right across the street from that is the Tennessee Theater.
Speaker 2: It's kind of Caddy corner across the street. That's another
Speaker 2: one of those art deco GM ants haunted too, and
Speaker 2: that's where Hank Williams final performance was. He had performed there,
Speaker 2: and then they took him to the the Andrew Jackson
Speaker 2: Hotel Andrew Johnson Hotel and brought him down out there,
Speaker 2: and he was so drunk he couldn't walk, and they
Speaker 2: wheeled him out of the luggage cart, and I think
Speaker 2: a doctor or something gave him some kind of medication
Speaker 2: or some probably morphine. I think he Hank had a morphine.
Speaker 2: Hank Senior had a morphine addiction. And by the time
Speaker 2: they got to Chattanooga, I think it's Chattanooga, he was
Speaker 2: already deceased, or maybe somewhere, maybe's Kentucky or Virginia, anywhere
Speaker 2: anyway where he was going to he was deceased. And
Speaker 2: there have been people that claim that they've seen him
Speaker 2: in the Tennessee Theater. And then I also spoke to
Speaker 2: one fellow who swears that he's only walking down the
Speaker 2: sidewalk in front of the theater, had it toward the
Speaker 2: hotel and just kind of faded out of sight. Creepy
Speaker 2: story there about Hank Senior and his ghost gets around
Speaker 2: Rhyme and Auditorium in Nashville, home of the former home
Speaker 2: of the Grand Old Lopry they still be I don't
Speaker 2: know it used to be anyway, and then they moved
Speaker 2: it around, maybe back there, but they've seen him there backstage,
Speaker 2: and there was some country artists I can't think of
Speaker 2: who it was that was playing one night, practicing before
Speaker 2: the show, and I think Hank would have liked that.
Speaker 2: At that time, all the lights went out and then
Speaker 2: they came back up, So that was Hank either voicing
Speaker 2: his pleasure or displeasure. I think the artist said that
Speaker 2: he thought that it meant Hank liked it. But he's
Speaker 2: just one of those tragic figures in country music that
Speaker 2: still still out there and around and about. There's never
Speaker 2: be another like Hank Senior. What do you think, Cathedia,
Speaker 2: you ever heard of any hauntings of Hank? Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: we're still waiting on Catheda to come back. I am
Speaker 2: back there she is now, she's back. I was talking
Speaker 2: about the ghost of Hank Williams Senior.
Speaker 1: Mum, can you repeat that. I want to hear a
Speaker 1: little about that.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I was talking about the ghost of Hank Williams Senior.
Speaker 2: And I had been seeing at the Rhymen Auditorium and
Speaker 2: in and around the Tennessee Theater there on Gay Street
Speaker 2: in Knoxville, which is kind of category from the Caddy
Speaker 2: corner from the Busue Theater that I was talking about
Speaker 2: there earlier. Okay, so what else you got out there
Speaker 2: on your list?
Speaker 1: Cathedra haunted colleges too, like the college must my daughter
Speaker 1: goes to. It's honey, But I'll talk about there's a Kingsport.
Speaker 1: It's twenty miles from Kingsport. Like you know, around the line,
Speaker 1: there's Bristol, Virginia. There's Bristol, Tennessee, the Virginia in Vermont College.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't heard about that one. Now. Another one
Speaker 2: in that air in the Tri Cities are at s U.
Speaker 2: That's campus is haunted. I've been up there, didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: but I heard plenty of stories. So what do you
Speaker 2: got there about the one that your daughter goes to.
Speaker 1: She she's wondered if it's haunted. She had one room.
Speaker 1: She switched rooms a few times storms, but she had one.
Speaker 1: No matter what was going on, it stayed hot and
Speaker 1: they're always hot. And she knew that something just wasn't right,
Speaker 1: you know. She kept feeling like a little bit of
Speaker 1: oppression or sad, and she wasn't there's nothing affecting her.
Speaker 1: You know. I thought, well, maybe it's just stressed or well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I was kind of worried about
Speaker 1: her going on, you know a little Behold, she switches dorms,
Speaker 1: complete change, turn around. Beats me, but just very odd.
Speaker 1: I said, do you think maybe it's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to sound like, oh mom,
Speaker 1: you're crazy. You know, have you think oh Mom, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, talk about that stuff all
Speaker 1: the time. Said, do you think it might be homeed?
Speaker 1: She says, I'm seriously wondering. I mean, that's how to
Speaker 1: the point it got. You know, she was concerned, but okay,
Speaker 1: something else is going on here. It kind of spooked
Speaker 1: her a little bit. Yeah, she's in a different dorm
Speaker 1: now and nothing like that's occurred. She feels a lot better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some places there at the University of Tennessee Knoxle,
Speaker 2: my alma mater, that were hot, and some of the
Speaker 2: dorms and some of the the I think the bathroom
Speaker 2: in the basement of the student center. There was a
Speaker 2: guy that passed away down from alcohol poisoning back in
Speaker 2: the eighties, and I think they've heard and seen stuff
Speaker 2: down there, and then all kinds of areas and around
Speaker 2: again that's Fort Sanders is in that area, and a
Speaker 2: lot of spooky, spooky stuff there.
Speaker 1: That this one hick get the Virginia Intermont College. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, rumor has it that she had an affair
Speaker 1: with the professor and she hung herself. You know, she's
Speaker 1: just strawed and when she did so, she knocked a
Speaker 1: lamp over and started a fire. The building's been fully restored,
Speaker 1: but there's times, yeah, in the room that she in
Speaker 1: that end that she you know, she appears and the
Speaker 1: room looks like it's in a charred state. It's you know,
Speaker 1: like it's burned. So it's like the room's remembering what
Speaker 1: happened or something. You know. It's kind of strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I've heard of stuff like that before, where
Speaker 2: something happened in the past will kind of bleed into
Speaker 2: the future. Sometimes not all the time, but just sometimes,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe as they say, when the veil is thin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's coming up. We're in spooky season here. It's
Speaker 2: October fourth, the night that we're recording this. It'll play
Speaker 2: on the sixth, but it's begun for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You got any plans for this month and around Halloween
Speaker 2: or anything like that contin it?
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I have been thinking of something. A mutual
Speaker 1: friend of ours mentioned some things to me here recently.
Speaker 1: I think of got something in mind to do Ted
Speaker 1: Ted Branston and you know when was it couragement from another.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ted all the way in Scotland, him
Speaker 2: and his dog Connor. He's a brook fan of all
Speaker 2: my shows and yours. There.
Speaker 1: Well, he kind of mentioned, you know, doing something with
Speaker 1: old stories and old movies, and I have something in mind.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm actually actually may be in character.
Speaker 2: Let's say, now, is that going to be on your
Speaker 2: ghost lore YouTube channel?
Speaker 1: Yeah? RESI of that? Or I'll make a similar channel
Speaker 1: ghost lore nor or something, you know, ghost lord more.
Speaker 2: There you go, ghost Lor plus ghost Lare after Dark.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of ways you can go with it.
Speaker 2: But tell us a little bit about ghost Lor now,
Speaker 2: I'll put a link to that in the show description,
Speaker 2: but I'll tell us what you're doing over there on
Speaker 2: your ghost Lor channel.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have much content on there, and I'm
Speaker 1: not in a big rush, you know. I've got I've
Speaker 1: got little pit projects here and there I'll be working on.
Speaker 1: But i do have some stuff to unload on the channel.
Speaker 2: I'm just there's one thing I think before before it
Speaker 2: was when you were here before, it's before you had
Speaker 2: the one about the ghost that came to court. Could
Speaker 2: you give us a brief repeat of that for our listeners.
Speaker 1: Elva's on a Heaster married h M Reus Edward Trout
Speaker 1: strembling shoe. They were married less than three months. He
Speaker 1: was a fine employee at a blacksmith shop. The blacksmiths
Speaker 1: owner's name was James Krikshank, and he was a likable man.
Speaker 1: The name Trout, I'm not sure where he'd drive that nickname,
Speaker 1: but through my research, I think maybe he got it
Speaker 1: from a nearby place called Trout. Those trout Falls, Trout Spring,
Speaker 1: I believe an area named Trout, and he had relatives
Speaker 1: here and there, and through traveling stuff, I think he
Speaker 1: probably visited that place a lot and probably got that
Speaker 1: nickname there. But yeah, ghost. The first short I've made
Speaker 1: for the Channel is about the ghost of Greenbrier Well.
Speaker 1: Elva's Ona Heuster married immersid were troutstrimling. They were married
Speaker 1: less than three months and she was dead and she
Speaker 1: was buried about a month or so later. Elva's mother,
Speaker 1: Mary Jane Houster, has reports that her daughter came to
Speaker 1: her in four nights and little by little told her
Speaker 1: and showed her what her husband had done to her
Speaker 1: because there was no meat made for supper. And she
Speaker 1: is mostly silent, but she would turn her head completely around.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the report, and you know she
Speaker 1: had a broken neck. And eventually the husband was charged
Speaker 1: for murder and he was sentenced to jail, and he
Speaker 1: died in jail a few years later. But it's the
Speaker 1: first case that was taken to court where an actual
Speaker 1: sentencing occurred from reports of a ghost. A ghost. The
Speaker 1: mother was telling the story, of course, but her story
Speaker 1: was that of the supposed ghost of her daughter. So
Speaker 1: a ghostly account in the court of all leads to
Speaker 1: a sentencing and a man sends to jail and he
Speaker 1: he dies few years later. It's from Greenbrier County. Like
Speaker 1: I said, he was a blacksmith. She I think was
Speaker 1: just a housewife. She had had a prior relationship with
Speaker 1: I mean, his last name was Woldridge. They had a baby,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't support a wife and child. You know,
Speaker 1: it was reported he didn't have much money or a job.
Speaker 1: And to this day, nobody knows that I have found out.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what's happened to the baby. There's no accounts
Speaker 1: of the baby in history books. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the baby, you know, did like from SIGs or anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the child lived a few years
Speaker 1: and then a tragic accident occurred. I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: used to think that the story is from like England
Speaker 1: or somewhere, and I found out it's pretty much like
Speaker 1: a couple hours from here is where it happened from
Speaker 1: where I'm at. And I just kept thinking about the story,
Speaker 1: and I kept hearing about this story. Little YouTube videos
Speaker 1: would come on. I finally started researching it and it
Speaker 1: just happens to be the first story I decided to
Speaker 1: do for YouTube. I'm still working on the follow up video.
Speaker 1: The hold up is is when I started doing the story,
Speaker 1: I had a death in the family, which is my father.
Speaker 1: It had Christmas Eve, and so that put things on hold.
Speaker 1: And then I got back into it, and then I
Speaker 1: had to do all kinds of fact checking, and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that I felt were not
Speaker 1: correct or an error. So I actually went to some
Speaker 1: archives and they contacted me and they let me know
Speaker 1: that yes, I could do this and that with the
Speaker 1: information and actually supported me, and so I almost had
Speaker 1: to do three quarters of the whole story over. It's
Speaker 1: just a simple little thing. You can email archives, you know,
Speaker 1: and be notified and say yes, you can do it.
Speaker 1: Just a little bit of permission save you a lot
Speaker 1: of water later down the road. Anyway, like I was
Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, these haunted colleges. I've saw some stories
Speaker 1: about the college my daughter went to. These guys were
Speaker 1: in their norm laying in bed and they had like
Speaker 1: some kind of little action figure hanging up on the wall.
Speaker 1: They kept it there, and it got moved and they
Speaker 1: could not find it anywhere. They kept looking for it.
Speaker 1: They looked, loo look everywhere, they entered their pockets. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't have it. You know.
Speaker 1: They were pretty upset about it. But later they look
Speaker 1: up and there it is. It's sitting right back we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be that is this missing all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: And now I've had that that happened to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I've.
Speaker 2: Lost here in our house, and I know it's here
Speaker 2: in the house, and suddenly go back into room in
Speaker 2: there it is right in plain sight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the strangest locations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and i'd like, I know, I didn't put that there,
Speaker 2: I didn't leave it there.
Speaker 1: I mean, like for me, I found my car keys
Speaker 1: once in the bottom of a trash can. That's how
Speaker 1: far I went through the house. That tells you I
Speaker 1: went through everything I found in the bottom of a
Speaker 1: trash can up underneath the plastic bag line to too. Now,
Speaker 1: I was that had to be a prank nobody ever
Speaker 1: admitted to. But oh my goodness, I spent two hours
Speaker 1: looking for car keys. Don't think I figured they got
Speaker 1: knocked off the counter, but I don't know how they
Speaker 1: got up under the plastic garbage bag. I mean.
Speaker 2: Or have you ever done the one like where you're
Speaker 2: looking for your glasses and then you realize that on
Speaker 2: top of your head.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've done that with the keys stow phone. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one time I was looking everywhere from my car
Speaker 2: keys and they were in my hand. Oh yeah, And
Speaker 2: I've done that with a wallet and a cell phone.
Speaker 2: And another time when I was in high school, I
Speaker 2: was driving to pick up the truck. I was on
Speaker 2: the way to school, and I had my U I
Speaker 2: carried my keys like on a C clip on my
Speaker 2: belt buckle and or on my belt loop, and I
Speaker 2: raced for him, and I was like, I've left my
Speaker 2: keys at home. I'm going to turn around and go back.
Speaker 2: And then it occurred to me, well, duney, how'd you
Speaker 2: get there? How did I get in the truck and
Speaker 2: get it started? They're hanging out of the ignition, So
Speaker 2: there you go. The brain is an amazing thing sometimes
Speaker 2: or maybe not. Some amazing.
Speaker 1: Like the this Mandela effect. Are we really miss remembering
Speaker 1: things that much?
Speaker 2: I I've got my doubts. The one that I've thought
Speaker 2: of that I've never heard anybody mention is Crossman b beguns.
Speaker 2: I had a Crossman b begun. I had Daisy and
Speaker 2: some of the others, but I had a Crossman b
Speaker 2: begun back when I was a kid. It was spelled
Speaker 2: c r O S S m A N. Now it's
Speaker 2: c R O S M A N one S. I
Speaker 2: don't remember it having one S. I believe it had two.
Speaker 2: Well when I but I looked on the website. It's
Speaker 2: been that way forever, so U huh.
Speaker 1: There's another one that is fairly new to me. Was
Speaker 1: what colors Mickey Mouse's shoes?
Speaker 2: I believe they were yellow?
Speaker 1: Well, ding, ding ding. Okay, what about the eighteen old
Speaker 1: show of the A Team? What color was the van?
Speaker 1: I think it was black with a red stripe there
Speaker 1: you go, like an orange orange red zig zaggy. Yeah. Well, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they say that it's the top of it was gray.
Speaker 1: The bottom was black.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. It's like that. Not in my timeline.
Speaker 2: I used to have like a little Hot Wheels or
Speaker 2: Johnny Lightning or something of the eighteen van it was
Speaker 2: black with a red shite and bolt thing on it.
Speaker 1: I had one of the extra large chunky likes kind
Speaker 1: of almost like maybe a doll, but it's just an
Speaker 1: action figure. The rubber material of mister T.
Speaker 2: I wish I pitted the fool that don't play with
Speaker 2: my action figure.
Speaker 1: He had the chainings and everything own. And now I
Speaker 1: don't know where I got that or why. I think
Speaker 1: it was a good for somebody else and they said,
Speaker 1: oh you can have it. They're not going to get it.
Speaker 1: You can have it or something, you know. And I
Speaker 1: used to crack up my sister with that. And I
Speaker 1: was a kid saying, now, pretty the fool you know exactly?
Speaker 1: That may be a pretty may bring a pretty penny.
Speaker 2: These days, Yeah, some of those action figures, I wish
Speaker 2: I had some of my g I Joe's from the
Speaker 2: sixties and my Captain Action figure, and I had a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff like that Johnny West. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of action figures back then.
Speaker 1: Little do we know how you know? What we what
Speaker 1: we behold until many moons later. I mean, well, I
Speaker 1: mean we enjoy things when we have them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed playing with it, and thought about maybe
Speaker 2: by invented stuff like that and putting it up for holding.
Speaker 2: But he might not even like it. He might want
Speaker 2: whatever's popular. So who knows. I don't even know if
Speaker 2: kids still play with action figures.
Speaker 1: Some of the strangest things are collectibles to you know what,
Speaker 1: beanie babies or pest dispensers.
Speaker 2: Even I had a big collection of peest dispensers at
Speaker 2: one time, back in the nineties. I had over one
Speaker 2: hundred of them, and I auctioned them off on eBay
Speaker 2: just as one lot and I got a pretty penny
Speaker 2: of it because I had some rare ones because I'd
Speaker 2: had them since some of them since childhood. So but
Speaker 2: another Mandel effect. But he was thruit of the lone underwear.
Speaker 2: You do you remember it having a cornucopia? I sure do,
Speaker 2: But now it doesn't. Then they say it never did.
Speaker 1: Somebody's line somewhere. I'm on a different planet or real district,
Speaker 1: something going on.
Speaker 2: I remember the corner coopia. Now they say it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: Remember it because my mamma used to have a notepad
Speaker 1: got for like around Thanksgiving once or something, and I
Speaker 1: remember seeing the corner copia of the They had pumpkins
Speaker 1: and I had some fruits or something spilling out of it.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, as when I was a kid, Huh,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing as the tags on those clothing
Speaker 1: things over there. It's the same thing. I didn't know
Speaker 1: it's not a cornic copia, but I do remember recognizing it,
Speaker 1: recognizing it clothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom had one that she used as a
Speaker 2: centerpiece for Thanksgiving. It was a waker cornercopia and it
Speaker 2: had the little pumpkins and leaves and stuff plastic, you know,
Speaker 2: spilling out of it and I said, uh, I said
Speaker 2: that to her. I was just a little kid, and
Speaker 2: I said, the table looks like the tag in my underwear.
Speaker 2: And my dad thought it was funny. My mom didn't
Speaker 2: appreciate it too much. But you know, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: said that if it was just fruit laying there.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: I distinctly remember.
Speaker 1: Corner Copia, yep, and just I mean just ordinary things.
Speaker 1: I mean, we remember it though. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that the mind can change, like if you if I'm
Speaker 1: more in a red shirt now, in two three years,
Speaker 1: my mind will literally swear it has a memory of
Speaker 1: me wearing a purple shirt. I mean, it's just the
Speaker 1: way that mine works.
Speaker 2: And then Mandela, it'sself himself. I remember when he died
Speaker 2: the first time. I was working at a restaurant in
Speaker 2: the West Knoxville, and I remember a guy and I
Speaker 2: at work talked about it, and then it never happened
Speaker 2: until he only died much much later. That was about
Speaker 2: eighties or something.
Speaker 1: No, I've never heard that. But the thing that I
Speaker 1: thought maybe people were confusing it with there was some
Speaker 1: movie out in the nineties, like some action movie, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, it's political conspiracy office and
Speaker 1: that going on, and Mandela does somebody portraying Mandela, I
Speaker 1: believe on the movie and he was killed on the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that's where people were getting that front.
Speaker 2: But now I remember we talked about it because it
Speaker 2: was on the news and the former presidents and stuf
Speaker 2: like that, we're paying their respects. And now it wasn't
Speaker 2: a movie.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: One movie though, was the James Bond movie with the
Speaker 2: Jaws character Richard Keel, the guy with the metal teeth,
Speaker 2: where he goes in he has a moment there with
Speaker 2: the girl with the braces. Well, now she doesn't have braces.
Speaker 2: That whole scene makes absolutely no sense now that she
Speaker 2: didn't have braces.
Speaker 1: That was the point. That was their little connection. They
Speaker 1: both had the braces, right, Yeah, I've been seeing that
Speaker 1: one lately. Yeah, she never had braces. Well, then what's
Speaker 1: the point of her smiling real big to show off
Speaker 1: her teeth? Then? Yeah, I mean that would be like
Speaker 1: an insult unless she had the metal braces, and that'd
Speaker 1: be like, ah, Okay, they got that little connection. They
Speaker 1: both have metal all over the teeth. They you know,
Speaker 1: they don't feel.
Speaker 2: So and they had a moment there and then later
Speaker 2: on they made a commercial like American Express commercial with
Speaker 2: him in it, and it had a girl, maybe not
Speaker 2: the same girl, but a girl with braces that worked
Speaker 2: at the bay. Again the same same thing, but supposed
Speaker 2: it never happened. Another one is the Bible verse about
Speaker 2: the lion laying down with the lamb. Doesn't say that
Speaker 2: now it says the wolf laying down with the lamb.
Speaker 2: It never said that when I was there used to
Speaker 2: be a Christian coffee house that I or a bookstore
Speaker 2: that I go to called the Lion and the Lamb,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's still named that, but or they
Speaker 2: get that. I've never heard the lion or the wolf
Speaker 2: and the lamb kinds. There's all kinds of them. I
Speaker 2: don't know. If some people say the world actually did
Speaker 2: end in twenty twelve according to the Mayan calendar, and
Speaker 2: we split off on a different timeline. Didn't end for everybody,
Speaker 2: and that's why things are different. But there's things I
Speaker 2: remember that, But there's ones that I know that other
Speaker 2: people say are different, like Jeff Peanut Butter. The people
Speaker 2: that say it's jiffy in my timeline, it was never jiffy.
Speaker 2: Now there was a restaurant, a little burger joint called
Speaker 2: Jiffy Burgers that were similar to crystal hamburgers that you
Speaker 2: have there in Tennessee and in the South. But the
Speaker 2: peanut butter was Jeff j I f and a choosy.
Speaker 2: Mothers choose Jeff. I remember that same with Oscar Meyer.
Speaker 2: Oh well, oh, my blooney has the first name, it's
Speaker 2: s Yeah, that.
Speaker 1: One confuses me. It's pronounced Meyer be spelled black mayor Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one confused me. I caught that one here recently.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, how's that Oscar Myer or something.
Speaker 2: Go, yeah, yeah, my blooney has the first name, it's
Speaker 2: O S c A R. My blooney has the last name.
Speaker 2: It's the m A y E r M.
Speaker 1: Now some can be proven, like miror mirror, you know
Speaker 1: the snow white yeah, miror.
Speaker 2: Mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all? Now,
Speaker 2: it's like, what magic mirror on the wall or some
Speaker 2: crap like that. It never said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: A German book or something. Somebody's estates that they h
Speaker 1: it says that in and they have the book or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you can explain one or two. You
Speaker 1: know there's Bernstein or bernsteinbers which is it? You know
Speaker 1: it's built E R I E. And everybody's like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: For somebody I supposedly has an old cell phone and
Speaker 1: when they look through it, they see things the way
Speaker 1: things used to be, like the monopoly Man or mister Peanut,
Speaker 1: you know the monocle or you know Caine.
Speaker 2: According to this, despite popular beliefs, the monopoly Man never
Speaker 2: wore a monocle, but yet people remember with one and
Speaker 2: the Berenstein bears Berenstein, Berenstein. I remember Berenstein, but some
Speaker 2: people say it's Berenstein. And then Shazam. The movie Shazam
Speaker 2: was sindbad as a genie, but apparently no such movie exists.
Speaker 2: But people remember in the Star Wars when Lou I'm
Speaker 2: your father. No he actually says, no, I'm your father,
Speaker 2: but I remember, Luke, I'm your father. Hello Clarice from
Speaker 2: Sounds of the Lambs.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they can't miss that up? What what? What's
Speaker 1: the ruling on that?
Speaker 2: It's he didn't say it, what.
Speaker 1: I can hear it in my head? Hello Clarice. He
Speaker 1: says good morning Clarice, or something to that.
Speaker 2: Effect. Yeah, right there, Hello Clarice is a Mandela effect. Example.
Speaker 2: I mean that many people remember Habile Elector saying this
Speaker 2: line to Clarice Sterling in the Sounds of the Lambs
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one movie, when he actually just says
Speaker 2: good morning. No, he says hello Clarice.
Speaker 1: He says her name.
Speaker 2: And my daughter remembers that too. She wrote it on
Speaker 2: the inside one of the kitchen cabinets on them sharpie.
Speaker 2: One time. You open it up and said Hello Clarice.
Speaker 2: I said, ah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: So is mom boggling baffling even that word's popping up
Speaker 1: everywhere from me baffling. There's some about sunkissed and some
Speaker 1: for like I can't remember which shoe company as Freebok
Speaker 1: or Noki. I can't remember which one it's a Phanta.
Speaker 1: It's the spelling on it. Was it f A A,
Speaker 1: n t A or f A, And I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: always f A. It's always been a fake. So I
Speaker 1: think some of them may be made up. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: And then the Ford logo, it does people remember it
Speaker 2: having a curly cue on the F, but then it's
Speaker 2: always been a straight line Cpo's leg and Star Wars
Speaker 2: it's always been gold, but they remember it being a
Speaker 2: silver line and the Forest Gump line that one's just
Speaker 2: a little off instead of life is like a box
Speaker 2: of chocolates, where his mother said life was like a
Speaker 2: box of chocolates. So the Queens song where the Champions,
Speaker 2: it supposedly ends with of the world, but it just plays.
Speaker 1: Out now, So I don't know, why are they always
Speaker 1: missing with this? I mean, yeah, the point of the
Speaker 1: Mandela effect is is a large portion of people will
Speaker 1: remember things a certain way while another portion equally do not,
Speaker 1: and which is right or which is wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think though that that many people can misremember.
Speaker 1: That, I think there's something to it. Definitely something to it.
Speaker 2: Definitely. Like I said with the Crossman b Begun, that's
Speaker 2: just one of my personal observations. But I know it
Speaker 2: had two s's in it.
Speaker 1: While they wanted to not is And I ask people that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obvious that, yeah, they can go and
Speaker 1: change things for political correctness or you know something, but
Speaker 1: to don and not give you any info in it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering about. What's behind it? Well, what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: You know why the Hush hush, fascinating. We kind of
Speaker 2: got off track there, but but it's it's it's it's fit.
Speaker 2: The show is called Everything out There. This is some
Speaker 2: of the everything that's.
Speaker 1: Out there, just more strange things to add to it.
Speaker 2: Now, last week I had a pastor Eric from Sounding
Speaker 2: so Far Missing administers on and we talked about what
Speaker 2: was going on with h Diddy aka puff Daddy aka
Speaker 2: Sean Combs. What's your take on all that? I just
Speaker 2: have to ask you, I really don't have one.
Speaker 1: I've heard that there's something going on, and I've not.
Speaker 2: It looks like there's some deep do to going on
Speaker 2: with some of that stuff. So I got another Epstein situation.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: I just know that they're celebrities and they'll try to
Speaker 1: buy anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, scary scary stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Back to the ghost stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another one that I had here on my list
Speaker 2: is a craigfont Now it's a mansion, I guess you will.
Speaker 2: It's a State historic site, uh said to be haunted
Speaker 2: by the former owner, General James Winchester and his family.
Speaker 2: And that's in the cast Ilian Springs out Castelian Castelian
Speaker 2: cast Ilian Springs can say I've never been there been
Speaker 2: through there, Uh, visitors support seeing apparitions, hearing footsteps and
Speaker 2: filling coald spots. It's just a another big old looking
Speaker 2: the house out of colonial there, excuse me. And of
Speaker 2: course Shiloh the battlefield there. Yeah, Charlotte, Tennessee. The National
Speaker 2: Military Park. There's all kinds of spooky stuff there. Any
Speaker 2: of these Civil War places. Gettysburg seems to well, the
Speaker 2: Rue Cisco can talk on and on on about Gettysburg.
Speaker 2: It's one of those. There's apparitions, they hear a gunfire,
Speaker 2: they smell gunpowder, feeling uneasy. In certain areas, you can.
Speaker 1: See like, uh, several several soldiers, like a troop of
Speaker 1: them you see walking by h big Yeah, like cannon
Speaker 1: fire has even been heard. There's an an O'Connell Lodge
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, Tennessee Mountain Inn.
Speaker 2: Where is that at?
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure what it's that that part, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll try to find out. I think it's
Speaker 1: in Jefferson, Jefferson County, Tennessee, Jefferson, Jefferson City. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: Johnson City, but there's also Jefferson. Yes, uh, making sure
Speaker 1: I had the rock Jeff.
Speaker 2: What was the place that used to have another name?
Speaker 2: And now it's called Rocky Top, Tennessee. They named the
Speaker 2: town now that's Lake City. Lake City doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2: My dad used to work with a guy that had
Speaker 2: a restaurant up there. Had some of the best chili
Speaker 2: I've ever had. We go up there to get chili
Speaker 2: at his restaurant that was in Lake City. Lake City
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Several years ago they decided to name it
Speaker 2: Rocky Top, Tennessee after the song was it rock City?
Speaker 1: Maybe at rock City? Because I can remember.
Speaker 2: That's that's down by Chadanoaga, okay see rock City. Used
Speaker 2: to see that on all the barn roofs.
Speaker 1: It's in Jefferson City, Jefferson County, Tennessee. And there little
Speaker 1: girl's been seeing on the balcony and the hallways, my
Speaker 1: guests and employees alike. She's very sweet and friendly, but
Speaker 1: who she is is the mystery. Nobody knows who she is.
Speaker 1: To go through the little friendly girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lake City was formerly Coal Creek. It's kind of
Speaker 2: in the middle of between Anderson and Campbell Counties. Small
Speaker 2: town one thousand, six hundred and twenty eight people as
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty census. In twenty fourteen, they officially
Speaker 2: changed the name from Lake City to Rocky Top after
Speaker 2: the last ditch effort by the copyright owners of the
Speaker 2: song Rocky Top Police and Bid Labryant was denied by
Speaker 2: federal court. Now, there's some spooky places up there, and
Speaker 2: there was an old mine there from the early nineteen
Speaker 2: hundreds across Mountain Miner coal mine. They had child coal
Speaker 2: miners in there and heard a lot of spooky stuff
Speaker 2: up there, and there was a nearby, the Frederville If
Speaker 2: you ever heard that there was a freighterville My disaster
Speaker 2: that happened in nineteen oh two. Supposedly, still hear screams
Speaker 2: and whales and stuff inside there.
Speaker 1: Those mines are something else. They call those the haunted noises.
Speaker 1: It sounds the Tommy knockers.
Speaker 2: Yeap.
Speaker 1: Usually it's a morning and you better get out because
Speaker 1: there may be a cave in. There's all kinds of
Speaker 1: reports about they hear. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They say, if you hear the Tommy knockers, you better
Speaker 2: high tailor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I believe I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I hear anything underground, I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I've been in caves and stuff. I've been in some
Speaker 2: haunted caves, but you know, we talked about bill Witch Cave.
Speaker 2: There's a used to be Caverns of the Ridge there
Speaker 2: in Knox County. It's Jerky Caverns was the other name
Speaker 2: of it. Is supposedly haunted. Now always did that up
Speaker 2: real nice for Halloween and had a haunted walk through
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's just creepy. Been that far underground.
Speaker 2: That's part of the the cave system there that connects
Speaker 2: into the Mammoth Cave system, which goes for miles and
Speaker 2: Miles and Miles. Miles made a video about Mammoth Cave.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir say, I believe you talked about that before.
Speaker 1: That might have been when it was still among.
Speaker 2: The missing Yeah, I think, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch us put that video on.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's still on Tales Untold, but I think
Speaker 2: it still has some of the ATM logos and stuff
Speaker 2: on it. But that was just didn't really fit on uh,
Speaker 2: Missing person Mysteries. I sitting here looking right at it
Speaker 2: can think of the name of it well.
Speaker 1: But more on ghost Lords the channel I've got it's
Speaker 1: at ghost Lord yt. It's a channel anything ghost lore related, superstitions,
Speaker 1: wives tales, even you know, what do you call like
Speaker 1: the witch doctors, anything spooky or anything haunted. I can
Speaker 1: even do like a few missing people reports where psychics
Speaker 1: have been helped investigators in the cases because they supposedly
Speaker 1: talk to ghosts, haunted real estate. There's you know, I
Speaker 1: want to do something. There's I'm going to do haunted churches, story,
Speaker 1: hunhunted churches. I do good, just things that's a little different,
Speaker 1: not saturated, saturated and slathered all over YouTube. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like a rehash.
Speaker 2: Just Yeah, there's so much stuff out there that's been
Speaker 2: the same with these missing person cases. There's certain ones,
Speaker 2: you know, that I've done and everybody's covered. But I've
Speaker 2: got some new stuff on the way, so hopefully that
Speaker 2: uh that haven't been done backwards and forwards. So I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to that now.
Speaker 1: That first story, the short I made, I'm still working.
Speaker 1: I had to redo the whole thing. Basically. I still
Speaker 1: have some of the images and you know, facts and
Speaker 1: stuff I still had, but a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I went and found on my own. It just didn't
Speaker 1: sit right with me, and I kept wondering about it,
Speaker 1: and I was contacted some archives, our archive place, and
Speaker 1: they gave me permission to use some information and stuff,
Speaker 1: and there were some things that I couldn't you know.
Speaker 1: I never found out that that was true or not,
Speaker 1: so I had to exclude that and take it out,
Speaker 1: and then my audio got messed up. I told a
Speaker 1: few people, this story is haunting me. You know, there's
Speaker 1: other stuff I've got made already ready to go, but
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get this one finished first. But
Speaker 1: anything it's haunted related, spooky anything wo worldwide WO. I
Speaker 1: want to do it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I've always loved the ghost topic, paranormal supernatural. So I
Speaker 1: finally made a channel. I like the name, and I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and make that channel that way,
Speaker 1: I can I have that name, you know, under my
Speaker 1: belt and the way it takes that name, because I
Speaker 1: was certain I wanted that name ghost War, and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess around.
Speaker 2: That's a catchy name.
Speaker 1: But now there is a game called that, and there
Speaker 1: is some channels called that. But as far as I have,
Speaker 1: I found that there is no paranormal supernatural story, haunted
Speaker 1: legends or channel that has that name at all. It's
Speaker 1: all related to the game. So I got lucky, very
Speaker 1: lucky there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's just that's a classic name, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not used as much as folklore, but
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, folklore, it's easily understood. You know.
Speaker 1: Ghost lour is the same thing. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: anything about spooky ghost stuff. Yeah, I'm glad I went
Speaker 1: with a name. I made the logo for it, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did a great job on that logo, and
Speaker 2: you also made one for me for project that I'm
Speaker 2: working on that I'm not disclosed yet, but I really
Speaker 2: good job with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just like those colors. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: I'm one of the colors that's your typical like the
Speaker 1: green blue and purple gray, silvery, you know, something that's
Speaker 1: associated with spooky stuff you might see in movies or
Speaker 1: like the green and gray cemetery scenes or something. But
Speaker 1: these colors here, they're a little more vibrant. But you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted eye catches and I think it's pretty cood.
Speaker 1: It's colorful, so but it's still related to you know,
Speaker 1: basically to the title I think it is. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: think they get together. So well, now I've got a
Speaker 1: question for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully I've got an answer.
Speaker 1: Okay, you and Nicole, when you were married, you stayed
Speaker 1: at the second most haunted house in the state there
Speaker 1: and you were going to go over some evidence or
Speaker 1: some maybe some audio or I think that you were
Speaker 1: going to try to set up something to try to
Speaker 1: catch something spooky. Did you ever catch anything spooky from that? Uh?
Speaker 2: No, we didn't catch anything. There's a place called the
Speaker 2: carriage House. It's a bed and breakfast, but we did
Speaker 2: have some strange experiences of Mulder was with us and
Speaker 2: I looked all over, couldn't find his leash to take
Speaker 2: him outside. And then I walked back in the bedroom
Speaker 2: and there it was laying stretched out across the bed.
Speaker 2: I had not even had it in that room, had
Speaker 2: been out in the sitting room.
Speaker 1: I'll see. That's likes more what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like with your watch there, and there's just I
Speaker 2: don't know, it felt kind of strange in there. But
Speaker 2: it's a big, old colonial there and actually where the
Speaker 2: breakfast was, and been at the actual carriage house for
Speaker 2: the big house. But there was a pointed very nicely
Speaker 2: but you always spent part of our honeymoon there and
Speaker 2: uh in Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: I was hoping you at least got one good photo
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Didn't. Had some experiences, but it didn't catch anything.
Speaker 1: Have you in the state have since you've been there?
Speaker 1: Have you found or saw anything was mentioned that that's
Speaker 1: very odd or strange.
Speaker 2: There's there's a cemetery that I'm going to do a
Speaker 2: video about called Spider Gates Dotter Gates.
Speaker 1: Oh, that sounds sounds good.
Speaker 2: Haunted. There's a witch tree there and it's us portal
Speaker 2: to Hell or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's the third time this week I've heard something about
Speaker 1: a witch tree. Yeah, third time this week.
Speaker 2: Apparently they're common here in New England. Of course, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not that far from sailing masthists. So there you go.
Speaker 1: He was talking about them. I saw a video on
Speaker 1: one a witch tree of Kentucky after a table stalking
Speaker 1: about them, and then I watched the video and now
Speaker 1: you're mentioning it. So yeah, it's the third time this week.
Speaker 2: So and there's one story about who put somebody in
Speaker 2: the witch elm or something like that. Found somebody murdered
Speaker 2: and stuffed in a tree. You ever heard that story?
Speaker 1: Yep, that's off of a slide off of a BuzzFeed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those two guys, they're funny, Roan and Shane I believe
Speaker 1: I forget the name. Yeah, who could It's something like
Speaker 1: Alma or maybe something.
Speaker 2: Let me look here real quick.
Speaker 1: Put nobody kne who she even was?
Speaker 2: Who put the bomp in the bomp? She bomped? That's
Speaker 2: not the right Who put and witchm? Who put Bella
Speaker 2: in the witch elm? Let's see. It's a final form
Speaker 2: series of graffiti connected with the discovery in nineteen forty
Speaker 2: three of the remains of a murdered woman inside a
Speaker 2: witch elm on the outskirts of Hagley in Worcestershire, England.
Speaker 2: The body has remained unidentified in the case unsolved since then,
Speaker 2: prompting many media articles and films, as well as dramas,
Speaker 2: an opera and a musical.
Speaker 1: Wow then made a op okay in opera.
Speaker 2: B I would need to make a video about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean to tell you truth. That's the
Speaker 1: only time I leave. I've heard of those stories from
Speaker 1: that channel, So that's probably not one. You know, saturated
Speaker 1: everywhere and you know it's.
Speaker 2: It's it's been talked about, but I've never talked about it.
Speaker 2: I know of it just in passing, but be worth
Speaker 2: looking into.
Speaker 1: But me myself, I want to go to some haunted prisons.
Speaker 1: I want to go to haunted hospitals.
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's just something about a haunted hospital that
Speaker 2: really gives me the willies. I don't like hospitals anyway.
Speaker 2: At a haunted hospital would just be times ten.
Speaker 1: Facing two fears at once. Yeah, the hospital in neghosts.
Speaker 2: You know, I like this stuff, you know, like haunted
Speaker 2: schools and haunted amusement parks, and you know, you expect
Speaker 2: a graveyard to be haunted, You expect certain things to
Speaker 2: be haunted. But I don't haunted school. That just that
Speaker 2: really pills me. I've been in a haunted school of
Speaker 2: Fairview Elementary where I went to school, was haunted in
Speaker 2: uh Brenda, and I, long after we'd left there, was
Speaker 2: going to school elsewhere, ventured in one night. I found
Speaker 2: it unlocked and I kind of trespassed, as I'm sure
Speaker 2: the Statute of Limitations has run on it now, but
Speaker 2: we heard what sounded like a woman in high heels
Speaker 2: walking across the floor of his combination auditorium, gymnasium, and
Speaker 2: lunch room, but had those windows way up high. The
Speaker 2: moon was shining and we could see the whole place
Speaker 2: was lit up. There was nothing in there, but we
Speaker 2: could hear it coming toward us. And there were stories
Speaker 2: that was haunted by the ghost of a former teacher.
Speaker 2: Some say she died at the school, some say she
Speaker 2: died on the way home in traffic accident. Still another
Speaker 2: was that she just died and then came back to
Speaker 2: haunt it. But there's definitely something in there. We don't
Speaker 2: waste to come getting out there. That's her, Damn sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I talked about that in my book My Strange World, some.
Speaker 1: About ancient Franklin or something earlier, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was one of Tennessee's oldest towns. Well, the oldest town
Speaker 1: is Jonesboro, jones.
Speaker 2: Or Historic Jonesboro. That's home of the International Storytelling Festival,
Speaker 2: which happens in October. I've been there, not as a participant,
Speaker 2: just as an audience member. But that's some good stuff.
Speaker 2: Every single building on that main drag there in Jonesborough's
Speaker 2: haunted Historic Jonesborough. They liked me to say it that way.
Speaker 2: I had a digital camera and every picture I took
Speaker 2: there was some weird mist or apparition or something. And
Speaker 2: then before I could get back home, that memory card
Speaker 2: was wiped out. I wanted those pictures back. I sent
Speaker 2: it in for like a forensic place, and they said,
Speaker 2: this doesn't look like this has ever even been formatted,
Speaker 2: let alone had pictures on it. But I did, and
Speaker 2: they were gone.
Speaker 1: People's evidence.
Speaker 2: Just yeah. I mean I had probably one hundred pictures
Speaker 2: of weird stuff up in historic Jonesboro. Oh God, strange,
Speaker 2: and some of those places they'll tell you about there,
Speaker 2: their houtings and and stuff there. Now, I hope they
Speaker 2: did okay in the flood. Have you heard anything about Jonesboro?
Speaker 1: Huh huh, No, I heard. Well, I mean, if I
Speaker 1: may have, it's just I've heard a little of this
Speaker 1: and a little that I can't I'm not. I can't
Speaker 1: prude a part to tell you if I have specifically
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, again, God blessed anybody in the wake of
Speaker 2: the floods and the hurricanes and an army whatever hit
Speaker 2: up there in that area Asheville. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: that's up in the mountain. You don't think about Ashville's flooding. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they had some dams that gave way and
Speaker 2: stuff up there too. But God bless a few people
Speaker 2: there in the mountains. I hope you get your power back.
Speaker 2: And I heard there's just a lot of devastation and
Speaker 2: an incredible loss of lives and things. Just some of
Speaker 2: the reports I'm hearing out there, it's just devastating. Well,
Speaker 2: and on that somber note, Conseia, we've got about five
Speaker 2: minutes left here. Anything you want to add or say
Speaker 2: or tell people about. Oh, now, I know you've joined
Speaker 2: us often or joined Lee often over on his show.
Speaker 2: I try to go over there too, especially on Saturday nights.
Speaker 2: But everybody wants to see you and talk to you.
Speaker 2: That that's part of the best place.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lee's live sixth Eastern a few days a week there.
Speaker 2: He's on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Yep, First four audio.
Speaker 2: I'll put a link in the description to that too,
Speaker 2: And that's some of his music you heard there at
Speaker 2: the break. I didn't hear back from this. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he'll be let me use the song that
Speaker 2: he wrote for you, but if not, you can go
Speaker 2: to his channel on Thursday or Saturday nights night writers
Speaker 2: what he does on Tuesday nights where he writes an
Speaker 2: original track. But those other two nights you'll like it.
Speaker 2: But he wrote a song about Catheda. It's just called
Speaker 2: Cathita cat Gray aka love Online. It's a hypothetical situation,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you just I'd convince you to come over there.
Speaker 2: And he does that. He'll pick people out of the
Speaker 2: audience and write a song about him. And and that's
Speaker 2: a hit. That's got a hit all over it.
Speaker 1: It sounds kind of like a movie song or something,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: It does. It sounds like those eighties rom coms, like
Speaker 2: the closing credits or something. But he's a very talented singer, songwriter, musician,
Speaker 2: A love the instrumentalist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got instrumentals. He's got some slow love songs.
Speaker 1: He's got some harder stuff that's more like a raw
Speaker 1: So now he does have this eighties quality vibe for
Speaker 1: him about I mean about him.
Speaker 2: I love the eighties. I came up in the eighties.
Speaker 2: I graduated high school nineteen eighty one and somebody super
Speaker 2: formative years. My college years and stuff was in the eighties,
Speaker 2: and my favorite decade ever. My wife was born nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five. How about that graduate, Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: and now we've got a baby born in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's so adorable, so thinking.
Speaker 2: He is, he just I don't care if he is
Speaker 2: my baby. He is absolutely adorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either if it wasn't your baby or AUTI he's adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a praiser, he's a Gerber baby. But if
Speaker 2: you want to see him, he'll be on The Leaves
Speaker 2: Show Saturday night. Of course, this will be Sunday that
Speaker 2: you hear this. He'll also be on with me Monday
Speaker 2: night on Cisco. I usually bring him on to say
Speaker 2: hi to people and then passing back to Mama but
Speaker 2: Casino once again, to thank you for being my guest.
Speaker 2: You're on everything out there. We'll put links in the
Speaker 2: show notes to ghost lore. Looking forward to whatever you
Speaker 2: got coming up over there, and I'll be seeing you
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Although it's in the past now that people
Speaker 2: are here in this I'll see Saturday night on Lee Show.
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to do a late night live story
Speaker 2: on missing person mysteries. Drop in over there.
Speaker 1: If you can't, I'll come and drop some links to you.
Speaker 1: A mod so I'll come over and drop some links.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you being abod in there and dropping
Speaker 2: links to all the stuff I've got going on out
Speaker 2: there in my books on Nancy, my blog, around the Campfire,
Speaker 2: h all, my channels, everything going on.
Speaker 1: Will drop the links to link to if anybody would
Speaker 1: like to send a gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate that. The baby's got If I
Speaker 2: gotta go get show ready, I'm trying this with the
Speaker 2: round camera and so I'm going to see how that
Speaker 2: I kind of this. It's got me like in that
Speaker 2: spooky tree there when I.
Speaker 1: Turned when I turned my phone upright, there's like a purple, thin,
Speaker 1: smoky or foggy looking halo that was around on there. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're not when I was on there with Lee Spooky.
Speaker 1: When you turn it landscape mode, it disappears. It's only
Speaker 1: when I turned it up rut and I thought that
Speaker 1: real cool thing. If you ever go ghost hunting and
Speaker 1: you need a hand, I'm just a message away there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, that's gonna wrap it up for this
Speaker 2: episode of everything out there on behalf of Catheda, Cat
Speaker 2: Gray and myself. I'm Steve Stockton. I'll see you a
Speaker 2: little further on down the trail. You see us a
Speaker 2: little further on down the trail. Tell your animals we
Speaker 2: said Hi. Good night everybody,