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Speaker 1: Made dess.

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Speaker 2: Face Sunny Summon on Ihadgon.

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Speaker 3: Night.

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Speaker 4: Happy Friday, mofos. Hello, welcome to for crying out loud. Wow,

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I never start the show. This night's awkward. That's your host,

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Lynette Corolla. She's gorgeous and talented and well spoken.

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Speaker 1: I like to take Stephanie. I like to take you

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by surprise sometime when Caitlin gives us the finger to go,

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I look at Stephanie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, I love it. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Well, it's Friday. Oh I got a funny, juicy

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story to tell you. What how I got molested by

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it massuse. Oh my god, I can't wait. Tell us

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that first and then we'll then we'll hear from our

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sponsors after. You can see that coming. Ah shit, okay,

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well hmm so hm. You know Anthony's wedding right, Yeah,

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my nephew Suzanne, she did the whole thing. And my

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nephew Anthony says to me, Auntie, Lynette, what can we

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get Suzanne for a thank you? Oh, Anthony, you don't

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have to thank her, she loves you. But if you

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want to thank her and get her a gues certificate

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to a SPA that's near me, that we've gone to before,

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and Susanne and I like once every two months or whatever,

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she comes to my hood. We go to that spa,

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we get the asside and we go out to dinner.

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It's it's it's fairly inexpensive. It's not like Burke Williams.

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It's and it's really good, okay, Auntielynnette. So he does.

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So Suzanne says to me last week, Auntie Lynnette, and

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she calls me, Lynnette, you want to go get a

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massage on Friday night. And it was the night that

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Phil had a surgery. Oh no, all right, So so

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at six o'clock she makes the appointment and okay, So

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Thursday evening I had the It was perfect because it was,

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like I told you how busy I was traveling during

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the election week, came back and then went right in

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Anthony's wedding, and then came back and then went right

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into the fundraiser. So Friday it was like decompressed night.

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Susanna and I are gonna go get a massage. Phil

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gets sick. I have to rush him to the hospital

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at four o'clock. Our appointments are at six o'clock. The

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nurse goes okay, So just leave him here. We'll do

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an X ray on him, and the doctor will give

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you a call and let you know. I said, what

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time you think the doctor's gonna call? Oh? He let

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me check. She comes back, probably around six. I'm god,

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damn it, I said, okay, Well, I have a meeting

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at six. She said, but just keep your phone on

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you and he'll make it quick. I'll just tell you

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what he found or whatever. Luckily he called me like

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an hour, call me at five. So anyways, okay, so

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it was almost off. But then so we go to

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the to the spa and Suzanne knows that I like Maya.

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If I have a choice, she's prude, so she always

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gets the female. So they are like, well we have

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a female and a male. Well, she gives me the male,

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which is fine with me. Now, this guy I've had before,

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I don't know if I remember telling you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, let me see if it's still

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sounding familiar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had him before before, and I cannot

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tell if he's okay. So I lay down and he

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starts and he's it's deep. It's a deep tissue massage.

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Maybe I should like okay, So he starts to give

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me massage, and he does that thing where he's like,

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you know those massusaes sometimes how they breathe.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking because I don't like massages.

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Speaker 1: Oh don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want somebody breathing like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he does that, you know they do that breathe.

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Speaker 4: So he's like transferring his energy, yes, like that whole thing,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: And so he's rubbing me down. It's kind of like

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it's hard, but it's kind of our And he does

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that thing which he pulls my shoulder so he's on Okay,

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he's on the left side of me, but he takes

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my right shoulder and he starts to he has my

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hand around my back like a like, is it like

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he's arresting. Yeah, like he's arresting me. And he pulls

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my shoulder up, but he starts pulling it so high

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up that I'm lifted off the table. Yeah, so like

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my you know you bob. Yeah. And I'm not a prude,

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but I'm like, I'm i supposed to be relaxed right now,

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because if that's the case, I'm not relaxing even just

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hearing about it alone.

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Speaker 4: If it happened to me.

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Speaker 1: But then I'm like, all right, listen, lint it, just

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go with it. And I have the phone on just

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in case, a thing all the time thing, and uh

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so my phone is over there. So he's doing his

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massage and he's doing that. So then he leans over

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and he does so he has his whole all his

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arms on top, so it's his growing is right on

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my ponytail. He start like pulling on my skin, like

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really pushing, and I could feel he's hard. No, no, no, no.

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Then he goes and does the other side. No he does,

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And I was like, is that his elbow? No, like

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putting two and three and four together and going, oh,

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that's his thing, that's his tingly ding.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, on your ponytail.

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Speaker 1: On my ponytail, on my shoulder, on my back. He

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got on top of the table. He got on top

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of the table and he puts his knees onto my

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lower on my back, into my back. I swear to guys, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna have PTSD from this story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what were you doing? I know he was

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going with it. I don't know. I was just like,

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were you horrified or.

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Speaker 4: Were you just like I'm to pretend this isn't how

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were you leaving your body.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what happens.

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Speaker 4: When were you enjoying it?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really enjoying it. It was kind of awkward

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because I had him before and he was doing this

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kind of stuff but not to this extent. And I

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thought last time it was he hard. I couldn't tell.

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I don't know, you know, it wasn't like this. This

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was really like very like like rock hard, yes, and

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like pulling me up and uh like so like you know,

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and then like to where like my, my, my chat,

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my whole upper body was off the table because he's

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stretching me. And then and then yeah, and then he's

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not normal fore no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I need to report this guy.

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Speaker 1: I know. No, he's kind of not okay. Then he

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was like then he was like up like my leg

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all the way up and then no, did he touch

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your coochie? He didn't, but he close Yeah, and then

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he massage the buttocks area. Yeah that's all that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was do you think he was like headed

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for happy? Like if you'd given him the word, if

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you'd been like I like that, would he have just

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gone for it?

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Speaker 1: I was don't think. I wasn't thinking that shit crossed

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my mind left and rose all over my mind. I

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was like, well, what is he thinking? I'm thinking? So

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then I turn over and then he does the he

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does the head that the scalp all that thing, and

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then he goes okay. So then it's like when it's over,

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they start toat they start to rewind, like they start

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to wind down.

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Speaker 4: He he liked, how did he wind up? Was he

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still hard?

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Speaker 1: He did?

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Speaker 4: He wind down?

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Speaker 1: Water on his face now he he's he lick candles

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in the room, and then like I could smell incense burning.

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It's kind of that. It's a hippie kind of massage place.

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It's also like that Korean they have the Koreans. There's

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a lot of like freaky deaky stuff going on. But uh,

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I mean not.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, it's I seriously doubt Suzanne was getting raped in

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the other room.

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Speaker 1: No she wasn't, No, she wasn't. She had chatty Cathy

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in the other room. She's like, she wouldn't stop talking,

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so and.

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Speaker 4: You're like, he wouldn't stop trying to fuck me. Same thing. Oh, massages,

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you never know what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 4: Mine was sexually assaulting me.

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Speaker 1: My god, seene, he goes, I was.

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Speaker 4: Trying to talk about recipes. Whoa brother, So.

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Speaker 1: He goes, okay, he was like this, he goes, I can't.

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He's like, relax your body and.

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Speaker 5: Then he says, feel the way of your body on

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the table, starting with your heels, moving up your body

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to your uh.

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Speaker 4: He said something.

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Speaker 1: He said something like that. He didn't say he said

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hands a sweet spot. He said good, but it was

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something like that, like your nature box or something. And

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then he shoulders and then he said, nature, let your

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hands fall to where they let your hands fall to

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where they feel like falling or something like that. And

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my hands were they were.

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Speaker 4: Actually fall on my penis's that's it. Don't try to

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stop it.

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Speaker 1: Hold on. Let me put some lotion on my hand first.

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Speaker 4: Now they fall on my Nature's stick. That's fine, go

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with it.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhiles his hand's got The lady I was Halloween.

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Speaker 4: My kids are grown?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh what were your kids for Halloween? This?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what how did it end?

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Speaker 1: My husband has custody my kids. So she was talking

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about it ended pretty happy. No, I'm kidding no, and

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that's how it ended. He was like he was just

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talking to me, like he said something about my area.

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Then he said, let your hands fall to where they go.

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I don't something. What do you want my hands to?

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They were just on the table. Yeah, and then he left.

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I was like, oh my god, I feel like I

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was just violated. It wasn't relaxing at all.

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Speaker 4: How much do you tip for that? I like, do

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you tip more because you're like your way right, or

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do you tip less to go like, hey, don't try

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to rape me in the future next.

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Speaker 1: Time, literally put that thing away. What I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This is why I don't get massages. I'm just really concerned.

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There is such a fine line between relaxation and rape,

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and I don't want to have to worry about line

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was being crossed.

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Speaker 1: No, I know. Then Suzanne's like, bitch, I'm the single one.

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How come I couldn't have I said, well, you're the

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prude one too, because you don't like guys, So that's

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what you get. That's your own dumbfall. You had to

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have then listen about her husband's custody of her children.

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How's Halloween for you? Because she's, you know, all bummed

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out by herself on Halloween. That was the story Suzanne.

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Speaker 4: Got, Oh my god, By Dammy, that's crazy. Yeah, I

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don't know how we follow that. That's like, that was

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kind of a show.

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Speaker 1: End talk about nature boss. It's been minutes.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that would be amazing. We still had

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nature box.

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Speaker 1: Meant, so, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: I okay, I have a little funny story for you.

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It's not about getting raped during a massage. That funny.

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Speaker 1: What forget it?

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Speaker 4: But so I was driving with Elby to school the

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other the other day and uh, she goes mom, She goes, mom,

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we were talking about Christmas and she goes, Santa's not real? Right?

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And Elbe is twelve. So this was a conversation that

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probably should have happened about five years ago, right right.

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But I was like, she, okay, I think I told

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you the other day that Maddie said, is Santa Claus real?

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And I said what do you think? And he said, yeah,

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I think I think he is. And I said, oh,

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why do you Why do you think? And he's like, well,

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because I think I've seen a footprint, because John has

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gone to great lengths to me. Yeah, he put a

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little boot print on the fireplace. Yeah, And Maddie's like

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there was a boot print on the fireplace, and plus

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he eats the cookies, so I mean, and I was like, well, yeah, well,

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so Elbe says to me right now that I'm saying

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it out loud, what, well, I kind of did, and

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he was, but he was he had convinced himself. He

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was like, no, I think it's real. And I was like, okay, then, yeah, right,

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and so Elbie goes, Santa's not real, right, and I

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smiled and she was like he's not He's not real,

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and I was like, yeah, he's not fucking real.

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Speaker 1: Elv Or twelve.

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Speaker 4: But it was so like it felt like such a milestone,

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and she was actually she started grinning from ear to ear.

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She's like, oh my god, it's definitely. She's like, yeah,

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I kind of suspected. I was really starting to suspect hut.

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And I said, what was making you suspect? And she said, well,

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I mean the last couple how long have you been suspecting?

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And she goes, probably like the last two Christmases? She goes,

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I don't know. The writing is like I kind of

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recognized the writing even though it's from Sanna, and I

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was like, of it. I asked her, what was keeping

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her believing? Yeah, and she goes, well, I guess just

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like the world, like there's Nora the Santa Tracker, and

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everybody is into it. Like there's nobody saying that it's

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not real. Everyone's pretty much saying it's real. So she goes,

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I kind.

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Speaker 5: Of m hmm.

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Speaker 4: She goes, I would, I would bring up these questions

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in my head, she goes, But then I'd be like, eh,

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it's real, it's real. Yeah, she goes, But then I

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don't know, She goes, I was just really starting to question.

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And then I said, well, Alby, so it's not real.

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I go, but so you get to be my helper?

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And she was so excited. She was like, yes, I can,

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I can? I can you wake me up? And I

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want to rap presence for Sadie and Maddie and I

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want to be in on it and can I help

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eat the cookies and make it look like Santa was there?

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And I was like yeah, of course. But then of

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course everything crumbled down. She was like, so, I go, well,

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so you stopped believing in the Easter Bunny a few

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years ago. She goes, yeah, well, because I saw you

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hiding the eggs and I go, so she goes tooth Fairy.

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Now I still fucking believed in the tooth Fairy. Linnette,

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what is wrong with my kids?

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Speaker 1: She doesn't Dutch? Did she really?

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Speaker 4: She really kind of? Did? I go, she goes tooth

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Fairy and I go, yeah, no, that's us, And she's like, oh, yeah,

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that's what I thought. And I go, be honest, did

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I just ruin the tooth Fairy for you? Cause you know,

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John and I go to we get elaborate with the

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tooth fairy. They each have their own tooth fairy. They

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have their own tooth Fray. They each have a name.

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One is Gwyneth, one is Esmeralda, and one is Clarissa.

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And their tooth fairies write the note every single time

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they lose a tooth, except what I forget.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. My kids trick me and their teeth

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come out and I don't know it's at school, and

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they forget to tell me. Then they put it underneath

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the pillow, and then it's just under the pillow, and

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then five days go by and they go, guess what

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my tooth is under the pillow? Rich And I'm like, well,

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why don't you fucking tell me I have to email

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the tooth fairy. How do you think she knows? What

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do you think she knows automatically their tooth came out?

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You have to tell I have to know emailer.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm I gotta send her a fax, you know,

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you know, or tweet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes she checks her Facebook, pabe, she got inventions.

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Speaker 4: She has to check her timeline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think it just happens?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so my kids and they get

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so bent out of shape.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, the Easter Bunny this year screwed up big time.

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I mean, it was melted because of the construction going

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out at the house. And Natalie's like, ever since that Easter,

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we have been crushed because we know that Easter Bunny,

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if there was really an Easter Bunny, would not have

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left us an Easter rabbit that was melted and his

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eye was down at the bottom of.

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Speaker 4: One horror movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a horror movie the Easter Bunny. And I

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was like, and then She's like, can you try to

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blame it on construction, mom? Please? I was like, all right, well,

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I'm telling you there is If that's what you want,

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I believe, fine, But yeah, so what so the easter

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Bundy makes a mistake every now and then too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I asked Elbe. I was like, did it ever?

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Did it ever? Give it away? When? Like because sometimes

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I've slipped up and been like, remember when I got

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you the sleeping bag for Christmas last year? And then

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I get that like, oh, I can't remember if Santa

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brought that or I brought it? And then I'm like,

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are they going to remember because Elbie's got that crazy memory?

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Speaker 1: Talia?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but she said no, she said that never did it?

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And I said, what about how sometimes I would use

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the same wrapping paper that Sanna uses, but on the

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ones that were like from me right, I always had

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a thing I was always like, if I ever get asked,

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I'll just say, like I help Sannah wrap the presence,

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But then how would I help wrap I don't know.

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That wouldn't have worked.

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Speaker 1: No, you know it's funny Natalia has done that to me,

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Like after like three weeks after Christmas, I'll say, oh,

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is that my lip gloss and She'll say, no, that's

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my lip glass I got for Christmas. And I'll say, uh, oh,

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why don't you use the scarf that I gave you

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for Christmas, and she'll say, you didn't give me that

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scar Sannah did. Like me, Sanathana, me, I can't remember

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right day, I remember that shit. Gina Kimmel, Jimmy's ex wife,

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she always wrapped her kids. To this day, their kids

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are out of college, she wraps them in red, solid red,

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solid green from Sanna. That way, she they there's no mistake.

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It's always red and green, solid red, salad green wrapping paper.

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Speaker 4: But as we've talked about, as we've discussed, I don't

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see how it's fair that Sanna gets credit right in anything. Right,

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Sanna didn't buy you anything I did exactly.

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Speaker 1: So wait so wait let's say so then Elbie now

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what now?

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Speaker 4: So now Elbe doesn't believe in anything, but but oh

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and then great a reel.

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Speaker 1: Now is the blage?

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Speaker 4: Is that real too? Alvie said, uh so. Then like

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a day had gone by her two days and the

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other day she's like, mom, elf on the shelf, God

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bless see you. And I said, yeah, not real, and

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she was like that's what I thought. Okay, but and

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I'm like, I just ruined that elf on the shelf

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now too. She's like, well, I just when I was

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younger and I was at my friend's house and because

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I'll never forget this, she was probably kindergarten. She went

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to her friend Greta's house and the mom Trina texted

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me or called me or something, and was like, oh

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my god, it was so cute. We had brought out

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the elf on the shelf and we didn't have one

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at this time, and I was tricking them with it,

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you know, I put the oflf on the shelf and

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then I tell them to, like I don't know, close

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their eyes or I distract them. And then she put

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it somewhere else and she goes, oh my god. They

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were loving it so much. They were they totally believed it. Well,

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Elbe was so it made such an impression on her

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that it was real that she still had that magic. Like,

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she goes, well, but then, how do you explain years

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ago when I was at Greta's house and I was like,

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Trina did it? She was like, oh, but she's twelve,

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and right, yeah's interesting that she still like believed in

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that magic.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, And then she goes, well, then, how oh, before

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I said that's me, I said, elf on the Shelf's

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not real and then she goes. I swear to god,

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she goes. But how does it work? Then?

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's cute, that's cute. I remember when that

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stupid elf on the shelf came for the first time.

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The tally was she was creeped out by her. She'd

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sit there and stare at her face and be like, so,

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this thing's gonna move around in the house.

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Speaker 4: It scared her for I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want her in my room, like I don't want

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to carry Yeah, and then she'd stare at her face

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and then you know, after you stare at something for

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a long time and go ah. I saw her move

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her her eye moved. I saw her eye move. She blinked,

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like all right, But now I don't I don't know

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where they stand on anything anymore because there's a stupid

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tooth fairy and the Easter bunny screwed me up right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that Sadie and Mattie fully still believe

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in Sanna. So then in Sadie's starting to have suspicions,

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which is possible. She's very mature. She's my most mature

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child in certain ways. Oh my god, I have another

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quick funny story. Yeah, tell me so Okay, So yesterday,

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I don't I have a thing. My kids like to

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oose my computer all the time. I don't like it

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when they close the computer.

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Speaker 1: Oh I have that, And I was going to tell

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you something. Yeah, well, because I have a computer kids

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thing too. No, now you go go go What do

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you mean they close?

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Speaker 4: Well, like, I don't want them to mess with it,

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like use the computer. That's fine, open a new window

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player roadblocks your games, but then leave the computer, like

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close out of that window if you're done, because the

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problem is sometimes the computer can get buggy from those games,

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like it can freeze it up or whatever. So I

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don't like them to just when it freezes up and

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they can't, then they just close it, which I think

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makes it more buggy. It doesn't put it to sleep,

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it I feel maybe it's in my head. I don't know. Missus.

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John tried to tell me that it doesn't do anything bad,

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but I've told him in the past, don't turn my

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computer off, like, ask me first before if you want

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to reset it, ask me first. Don't just shut it

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down and restart it. And also just don't close it

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and leave it. Okay. So the other day I see

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my computer, and the kids have been on it, Sadie

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and Maddie because Lbie has her own computer and it's closed.

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And I was like, hey, who used my computer last?

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I don't know. I was like, well, one of you

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is on my computer and you closed it, and you

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know I don't like that, Like I've asked you so

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many times not to close my computer. Which one of

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you guys did it?

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Speaker 1: Easter Bunny?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they both so Maddie says, well, Sadie was

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the last one on your computer. And I was like, okay,

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So Sadie, what don't close my computer? She's like, I didn't.

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And I was like, well one of you did because

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I didn't. Daddy didn't. LB hasn't been on my computer.

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That leaves Penelope didn't because she doesn't know how to

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use the computer yet. So it was one of you two,

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So which one was it? I wasn't me, And it

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wasn't me. Okay. I'm like, okay, Well, if neither one

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of you is going to take responsibility, then you're both

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going to lose computer privileges for the all tomorrow. You

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can't use my computer. Well, it wasn't me. So Maddie's like, mom,

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I wasn't on your computer. It wasn't me. And Sadie's like, well,

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I didn't do it. So then she has a freak

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out like she's like I did, and storms off, goes

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in her rooms, slams the door, and then John and

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I hear her proceed to like cry and yell and

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scream like a crazy like and I'm like, oh my god,

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what is wrong with her? So like so upset, screaming

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and crying, and I was like okay, and then John goes, well,

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you know, it doesn't really hurt the computer to close it.

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I'm like, not helpful, right now, That's not the point.

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The point is that neither one of them would take responsibility,

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and one of them did it, and so they let

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themselves both get in trouble rather than one of them

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stepping up and saying so I just let him. I

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let her freak out. And I was like, I'm not

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going to go in there and talk to her because

465
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that let's her off the hawk. Let her come to me.

466
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160
So then Maddie comes in a few minutes later and

467
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,599
he's like, just came in to say good night. It's

468
00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:37,759
like eight forty five, it's there's no school the next day,

469
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:39,359
I'm like, really, you're going to you're going to bed?

470
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,119
And he goes, well, I guess. I'm like, what are

471
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,759
my kids are already being manipulative martyrs? Come on? So

472
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:52,079
I'm like, okay, good night. So he wanders off right

473
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,079
then Sadie's still crying. Then she she comes into the

474
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:03,880
other room and uh, she said some Oh she I said,

475
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,119
why are you in there crying? And then she's like

476
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:13,200
she goes because I didn't do anything? And I'm like, oh, okay,

477
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,920
I go, well, here's the theme. Here's the deal. That

478
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,119
would be like my phrase that I say all the

479
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,680
time too much. I go, here's the deal. One of

480
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119
you two did it. So if it was you, by

481
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,519
you not admitting it, you got Matilda in trouble too. Maddie, sorry,

482
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:33,200
not Matilda anymore. You got Maddie in trouble and yourself

483
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,480
in trouble. I go, No, if Maddie is the one

484
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,440
who did it, then by him not taking responsibility, he

485
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,839
got you both in trouble. So wouldn't it have been

486
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,880
easier if one of you just said I did it?

487
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,200
But I did I do it?

488
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm fag.

489
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 4: Like okay, So she walks off. Okay. Then like five

490
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,720
minutes later and I'm sitting there and I'm pissed. But

491
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,680
then she comes back. Oh, I go, well, then you

492
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,200
and Maddie should go talk. You guys should go talk,

493
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,400
figure out who did it, and come and take responsibility, right, okay?

494
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,720
And so she goes off like five they both come out.

495
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:16,960
Stadie's crying. She's like, Mom, I'm the one who closed

496
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:23,720
your computer. I didn't I didn't know. I wasn't supposed

497
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,039
to close it. And I'm like, well, why did you

498
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,720
lie and say you didn't do it? I was scared

499
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,720
to tell you. And I'm like, okay, well I don't

500
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,559
understand why, because I go, I am like the nicest mom.

501
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,759
I go, I what would happen? I go, would I start?

502
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,519
Would I beat you? Would I even probably punish you?

503
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,759
I go. You got punished because you lie, because you

504
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:55,319
wouldn't accept responsibility. I go, Not if you had just

505
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,279
said I closed it? What do you think would have happened?

506
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,480
What in the past has happened to you? When's the

507
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,000
last time you really got in trouble for something? Neither

508
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,200
one of them could even think about it, which I

509
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,759
think is a poor reflection of my own parent I now.

510
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,240
Maddie's like, well, I think you gave me a time

511
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,519
out like maybe a year ago, and I was like, yeah,

512
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,559
this is not making me look good. You guys never

513
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,559
get punished. I rarely scream at you. I go the

514
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,880
only time I really get frustrated is if you're not

515
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,680
cleaning up after yourself. And I have to tell you

516
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,240
the same thing a million times, but you never I

517
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:31,160
never lose my shit. I never like go crazy. You're

518
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,880
hardly ever punished. I was like, so, what gives I go?

519
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Why are you scared to tell me? And She's like,

520
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,119
I just didn't want you to be mad at me.

521
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,759
And I was like, okay, have we learned a lesson?

522
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,039
I'm going to be mad or if you don't just

523
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,359
say I did it, and if you lie to me,

524
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,720
I'm gonna get really mad. And that was over and

525
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,559
then she's in a greatment.

526
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: But that is exactly what happens in my household all

527
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,480
the time. I mean, I always do this whole thing

528
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:08,079
where it's like you come clean or tell me if

529
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,400
you did it or whatever, did you do your whatever,

530
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,799
And it's like, if you would have just told me.

531
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,200
But by the way, when when I just had the

532
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,400
same speech to them, you guys are lucky. I never

533
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000
when you never get grounded, you know, because I have

534
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,079
this issue where I gotta go to target, even though

535
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,480
I don't want to go to target, or I gotta

536
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,480
go and whatever it is on a Saturday or Sunday.

537
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,160
Let's do this, let's do that, let's I get pushed around,

538
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,119
and finally, I finally just said, listen, no, we're not

539
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,119
gonna do anything. We're just gonna sit and chill. You

540
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480
have iPad, you have books, you have the backyard, you

541
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:44,839
have a dog, you have a swing of everything. We

542
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640
are not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not Julie the

543
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,839
cruise director constantly not Julie our friend, uh, you know,

544
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,920
taking you everywhere around town. I'm tired of it. I'm

545
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,880
tired of it. I'm not doing it. The next day

546
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,559
it's like I'm back going to tough. Here we go,

547
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,839
let's go to target. Five minutes in target and that's it.

548
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160
You know, It's like that's like enough. I'm sick of it.

549
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,240
I tell them that I said, you guys are lucky

550
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:09,839
that I feel like a nadie. I feel like a

551
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,920
jacket I'm one of those parents that I hated, Like, ugh,

552
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,319
those parents that just don't can't say no to their

553
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,519
kids or whatever.

554
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,359
Speaker 4: And it's like, Mom, can we go to Michael's and

555
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,480
get glue for the slime project. I'm starting a business

556
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,240
and I'm selling slime at school.

557
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:28,039
Speaker 1: I need glue. Ugh. Okay, We're going to UCLA game

558
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:31,799
with Doctor Drew and missus Pinske and we're going and

559
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,039
they get to bring a friend and we're going.

560
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,839
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, let me tell you a little

561
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:38,920
Susan Pinsk.

562
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,599
Speaker 1: Susan's kids, they're all grown, they're in their college, right

563
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,039
out of college. She has two boys and a girl

564
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,279
that the boys are at home now it's holidays and

565
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,279
they have friends and it's UCLA versus USC and she

566
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,119
texts me and we share season, we share the seats

567
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:58,559
and she texts me and she says, it's the biggest

568
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,519
game or you know, are you guys going? And I

569
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:05,880
said yes, And she said how many? And I said four?

570
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,240
And she said who are you coming? Who are you bringing?

571
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,079
I said me, And I never bring Adam. Adam doesn't.

572
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,039
I don't like to go. I'm not a football Fine, yeah,

573
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,240
going to UCLA. I don't like it. It's cold, it's freezing.

574
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,960
There's no like beer, there's nothing. It's just like whatever.

575
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440
It's fine, but I do it for the day.

576
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: They would have beer. It's college.

577
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, not all people do in college, I guess. But

578
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,519
they don't. They don't. They didn't. They don't, which is fine.

579
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,839
And I've only gone one time this season. Okay, one

580
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,480
one time this season. I've used those seats. And then

581
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,119
I said, yes, four. She says, who are you bringing?

582
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,079
I said, me and three kids. She's like kids, question mark,

583
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960
question mark. I was like, oh Jesus, who do you

584
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,119
want me to bring? Susan. I'm not hanging out with

585
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,319
Warren baby, will you? I'm sorry? I got my kids.

586
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920
So anyway there and now back to the So Natalie

587
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,799
is like, we're gonna be freezing at the game tonight.

588
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,960
I said, yeah, we are. Let's go to Dick's Sporting

589
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,960
Good and get UCLA sweat jackets.

590
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: No, are you crazy? What she do?

591
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:17,039
Speaker 1: I'm out? She's texting me while I'm getting my massage.

592
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,440
She's can we go to Dix? Can we go Dick's

593
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,039
no exclamation, but now leave me alone. I come home

594
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,039
and she's like Daddy's taking us. I was like, really,

595
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,039
it's taking us. They said, Daddy's leaving to go out

596
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,079
of town tomorrow. But yeah, but Daddy's not going till

597
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:32,680
later in the afternoon. He said he could take us

598
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,400
in the morning. Okay, if he wants to spoil you,

599
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,079
brat's fine. What happens the next day, Daddy's we go

600
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,480
on a walk, we talk about building onto the house,

601
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,559
which is another's show, which I'm gonna have to talk about.

602
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,240
I'm gonna have to go into therapy because he wants

603
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,240
to build more onto the house, and uh and I

604
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,920
and then next thing, you know, oh, look at the time,

605
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:58,480
Adam says, I gotta go to the airport now. But Daddy,

606
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,240
you said, you're gonna take us a sport and Italian

607
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,839
so and Sonny's bringing the boy that she has a

608
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,640
crush on the ole man and you said, I and

609
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:09,920
my heart set on it. And you said, you said,

610
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,640
you said, well, how about I take you when I

611
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,759
get back. No, that's not gonna work. We're going to

612
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,039
the game tonight. Well you're going, you know. He does

613
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,359
the whole thing and then he's like, well, Mommy'll take you.

614
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960
And I was like, why why I have its whole

615
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,880
day planned. I'm at home. There's no fill fills in

616
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,039
the hospital. I'm cleaning this house, organizing, I got stuff

617
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,599
to do. I was at this the front. I'm tired.

618
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:35,799
I got a massage and everyone who has to take

619
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,599
the game, Yeah, I got to take them to the

620
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,720
game exactly, And he's like, well, you could take on

621
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:43,720
a deck. Sporting Gus was the big and it's like no.

622
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,400
Then we go to Dick Sporting Good and Sonny's like,

623
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,720
you're like three hours later, I'm miserable. Now I'm looking

624
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,559
at That's why I got this outfit under arm or.

625
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,240
I was like, wow, they got some nice stuff here.

626
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,559
Mommy's gonna get herself some workout clothes. So then he's like,

627
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:03,319
can we go to Target after this? I said no,

628
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:05,480
and the tal He's like, no, Sonny, we got to

629
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,200
get home and get ready for the UCLA game.

630
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: Cut too, You're at Target.

631
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Yes, go to Target, And I was like, I just

632
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400
want you guys this room for Target, Like this is

633
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,799
the last time I'm ever doing this. What you got.

634
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,920
I am not I know I'm a pushover, but I'm

635
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,519
not doing this. And you know why I do it?

636
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,160
Because you guys, because I love you. But you guys

637
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,759
are good kids. You may not have the best grades

638
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:26,920
in the world, but you're good kids. You're good. You

639
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440
were at the Thursday night. They were miserable at the

640
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680
at the fundraiser that we took them to because there

641
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,319
was no other kids, and they were just can we go?

642
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Can we go? We're tired? Can we go? They stayed,

643
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720
they got up early, they went to school the next day.

644
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,440
They were troopers, but still come on like spoiled. I'm

645
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,920
ashamed of myself, I really am. I am take them

646
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,720
at UCLA game with their friends and take them to

647
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,480
buy a sweat jacket Ucla sweat jacket. And then she's like,

648
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,640
we got to get Matthew a jacket too. No, no,

649
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
no walk out or there no jacket. We got him

650
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:10,360
a hat. Terrible. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed of myself. It's

651
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440
hard to say no to kid, it is. Then Italia

652
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,079
does this thing. She says, Mom, Yeah, in the car

653
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,400
was Sonny on the way to pick up well her

654
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,079
little boyfriend.

655
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: She said, a.

656
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,159
Speaker 1: Little Buddha Cammy told me that you got kicked off

657
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,480
an airplane. Oh God, here we go, I said, how

658
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,960
does Cammy know. Well, Cammy said to me your mom,

659
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,639
did you know your mom got kicked off an airplane?

660
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,000
And the tis like no, and camm He's like, oh, sorry,

661
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,559
I shouldn't have told you anything. Maybe it's not true.

662
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: My God.

663
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,079
Speaker 1: She's like, maybe she's talk to your mom about it. Uh.

664
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,400
And I said, okay, because all I have to do

665
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:58,400
is like google right Southwest Airlines. So I don't know

666
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:03,559
if Cammy's because Cammy's dad listens to Adams Show. I

667
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,320
doubt it that's how she found out. I think she

668
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,039
probably was on the Internet and something somehow came. It

669
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,360
came up because if you google, I mean, if you say,

670
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,280
if Lynnett, Carola Natalia, you think.

671
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: Cammy's googling you. I don't know.

672
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't think she's googling me. But they are at

673
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,000
that age where they're doing their music leaves and they're

674
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,679
liking things and there. I don't know, but I don't

675
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,440
think mister mister Buddha said anything that. I don't think

676
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,199
mister Buddha went and said, hey, Natalia's mom got kicked

677
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,559
off an airplane and she saw it on the internet.

678
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,960
And she has an older sister too. Oh, so there's that,

679
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,000
so I said, okay, well this is what happened. I

680
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,599
told them the story. And then Matthew gets in the

681
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:50,280
car and they're like, as we're walking away, mister and missus,

682
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Matthew are spy. I have a nice time. Natalia could

683
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,960
not have been louder and more clear and says, wait

684
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,039
to hear the story about my mom getting kicked off

685
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:58,760
an airplane.

686
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:04,159
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was like telling bye, guys, bye.

687
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,159
Speaker 1: It's like, it's so embarrassing. God knows what the other

688
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,719
parents must think anyways, you know, all they gotta do,

689
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Like you got to think too, Like I'm on Facebook

690
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,280
posting about you know, bar crawls and Lackey's and you know,

691
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,079
alcohol and stuff like that.

692
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't well, by the way, if you google me, yeah,

693
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,599
because I've never bothered to try to undo any of this.

694
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,920
But if you google me, the first stuff that pops

695
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,599
up is like alcoholic, like because on the Today Show,

696
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on the like it's all alcoholic. Blogger admits to alcohols, alcoholism, alcohol,

697
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:44,800
I know, right, this is alcohol alcohol alcohol.

698
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Google booz booz booze.

699
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: Here you go. Look, secret life mom confesses to alcoholism,

700
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,280
you know underneath ye oh my god, Paul Thomas Anderson

701
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,320
shot a radiohead video, but you weren't supposed to know.

702
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:01,079
Speaker 1: It's basically I mean poor stuff.

703
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: Is that just the stuff that is? How does that work?

704
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't that's.

705
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,639
Speaker 4: Look if you keep going watch Okay, there's my.

706
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,519
Speaker 1: Books Heroin of Cocktail Moms. Sober up.

707
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, you're just gonna see a lot of

708
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,760
stuff about me. And by the way, it's been almost

709
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,280
eight years and now I have to just how are

710
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,639
you gonna?

711
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,079
Speaker 1: Like? I don't like this stuff now? So I told

712
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:26,159
my kids the story of the Southwest Airline debacle and

713
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:29,400
they were just they were like, how dare they do that?

714
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,039
Speaker 4: Like you're their mom?

715
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were pissed and they're like, have you ever

716
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,960
seen that guy? The weirdo? Thanks a lot, you weirdo guy.

717
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,679
And I said, never saw him again, but if I

718
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960
ever see his fucking ass, I'm going to beat him

719
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,880
down and say that to them. But I will if

720
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,840
I ever see that kid, Oh god, I'll never forget

721
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,719
him ever.

722
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: I think that, Uh, it's fine for kids to know

723
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:59,039
that stuff because there's a lot of perks. Listen, are

724
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:03,280
there a lot of negative from being known. I'm not

725
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,039
let alone famous just from people knowing who you are

726
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,320
and being public at all. Are there are there downsides? Yes,

727
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:11,760
but there's also a lot of perks.

728
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,639
Speaker 1: As Adam would say, membership has its privileges.

729
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,039
Speaker 4: Mama, Yeah, yeah, So I think it's fine for them

730
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:26,280
to know stuff. Mike kids know, like they understand too,

731
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
like what alcoholism is and what being drunk is, and

732
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,039
they they know that I haven't had a drink since

733
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,960
they were really little, right they and they kind of

734
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,280
love it, like they think it's sort of cool. Yeah,

735
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Like they'll say so and so drinks alcohol, but I

736
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,519
know you don't drink alcohol and you stopped seven years

737
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,039
ago or whatever, And I go, yeah, I did they

738
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:45,639
think it's cool?

739
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: It is, Yes, I that's nothing wrong. I don't think

740
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,119
there's anything wrong with it. I just don't want like

741
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,039
the comments and stuff.

742
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: Like that, right exactly, you know, Yeah.

743
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:01,119
Speaker 1: And the wrong information you know, like, oh, you know

744
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,320
what kind of story is that of you know, she

745
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:06,920
was causing a scene at the airport. Yeah, that's me.

746
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,000
Anybody that knows me I caused.

747
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,559
Speaker 4: An It's such a stupid story anyway, because obviously it's

748
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:17,079
like that's honestly just a customer service nightmare and a

749
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:20,960
thing that happened that was ridiculous if you do, embarrassing

750
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,360
for you.

751
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you don't know me very well and

752
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,599
you just like I'm just the wife of it, like Adam,

753
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,559
I don't know if Mark Marin's wife or whatever. I

754
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:34,159
don't know like you people. I mean, it's a ridiculous story.

755
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: It's like, but the only reason it became a story

756
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,639
is because you talked about it. So it's not like

757
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,880
it's not like you got arrested for being drunken disorderly

758
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,119
and then you were telling the story and trying to

759
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,360
tell your side. It's something that you were the victim

760
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,800
in it, right, and you talked about it because you

761
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,519
were pissed, so it became a bigger story. But it's

762
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:55,559
not like something bad happened.

763
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: No, I know you were, but you know how people like, yeah,

764
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,159
you know, of course, I like, yeah, yeah, of course

765
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:03,639
she was. Yeah she was drunk and causing a scene

766
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:05,239
and blah blah blah.

767
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: Right, but you told, you know, the correct story, and

768
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,079
there's no proof. There's no story out there that's the opposite.

769
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,719
Besides people's conjecture.

770
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,079
Speaker 1: If anybody is happens to know anybody. It was July

771
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,679
of not last summer, but the summer before. I would

772
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,199
love to get somebody that was on that plane's side

773
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,039
of the story. It's just somebody me too. Yeah, let's

774
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,239
put it out there, all right.

775
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 4: So what was the other thing I wanted to talk about? Oh,

776
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,000
let's just talk for a minute about Hot Car Dad.

777
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. We yes, yes, yes, yes.

778
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,119
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Okay I talked about that. Yeah, because okay,

779
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:49,800
so Hot Car Dad is justin Harris, and we talked

780
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
about this story way a long time ago when it

781
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,760
first happened, because I was horrified, right, and there was

782
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,280
some Okay, then there's a there's a podcast called The Breakdown,

783
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,119
right where they have talked about the whole case, and

784
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:05,360
I followed the case on the Breakdown and I was

785
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,440
starting to be There's a one of our listeners follows

786
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,679
me on Twitter, and she tweeted at me about how

787
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,039
the verdict came out and how she thought maybe he

788
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,119
was not guilty. And then I told her, Oh, I

789
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:18,920
have so much more to say about this, but I'm

790
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,760
going to have to direct message you because but then

791
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,559
I never did. So if you're listening, here's my take

792
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:28,039
on it. Yeah, go go go so, okay, some listening.

793
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:32,039
I listened to both sides, and I have to say,

794
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,199
the thing that made me go like, well, maybe he

795
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,760
didn't do it was the idea that his wife. So

796
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,880
they interviewed his wife or you could hear her taking

797
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,760
the stand what she was saying, and she took the

798
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,360
stand in his defense. The wife who now they're divorced

799
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,159
and she's got like a new boyfriend, and you know.

800
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: And you said she seemed very smart.

801
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: Smart, and she did say like that. She told him

802
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,800
do you want a divorce, Like, I'll give you a divorce,

803
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,639
like if that's what you want. And then he goes, no,

804
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,320
I don't want that, okay. So there was a part

805
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,199
of me that was like, okay, that would be the motive.

806
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,719
Like to me, his motive would be, I want to

807
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,519
be single. I don't want to have a wife and kid.

808
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,840
I want to just be able to indulge my sex

809
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,320
addiction all day and all night and not have like

810
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,920
an obligation that's getting in the way of my texting

811
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,840
and getting together with women for sex, right which he

812
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,239
was doing. It's been proven like pretty much all day,

813
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,679
every day meeting women for sex and you know, hiring prostitutes.

814
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,559
This is all proven, so it's not in question. And

815
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,159
you know, sexting with different women, like a bunch of

816
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,559
different women. Okay. So I was like, well that okay,

817
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:48,360
so that would be Then I was like, well, I

818
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,360
mean maybe he did love his kid. And then they

819
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:55,079
played some like videotape of him like singing a song

820
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:56,760
with his kid, and it was kind of cute, and

821
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,719
I was like, well, I mean maybe it was an

822
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,079
act and maybe he was just so distracted by all

823
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:08,159
the sexting he was doing that he did accidentally do it, right,

824
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,039
But no, no, he's guilty. And here's why I keep

825
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,800
coming back to why he and the defense was saying

826
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,079
all the things that I'm saying, Like that was basically

827
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:22,119
their defense. Yes he left his kid in the car,

828
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:23,960
but it was an accident. Yes he's a bad guy.

829
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,480
Yes he was sexting, but he didn't do it on purpose.

830
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:27,400
He loved his kid.

831
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,679
Speaker 1: But what of the Google search?

832
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so and the child free website they did

833
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:37,719
kind of debunk it because he it was a friend

834
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,719
of his said, oh I tried to send him this

835
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,199
link to this child free website and he said, oh,

836
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,320
that's stupid. That's gross. I don't like people that are like, oh,

837
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,599
I'm trying. Okay, but he did google and watch stuff

838
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,880
about how long it takes for an animal to die

839
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,119
in a hot car. Okay, that's that's one thing that

840
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,559
I just don't I don't see how you find your

841
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,000
way around that one. Like, okay, he says, Well, it's

842
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,360
because I was so scared of that happening. Okay, if

843
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,760
you're so scared of that happening, then that if that really,

844
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,119
if you're so scared of it happening that you've watched

845
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,719
a video about how long it takes for an animal

846
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,800
to die in a hot car, then I'm sorry, but

847
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,159
you're probably going to be extra vigilant about it, like

848
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,880
if you're He said on the stand, that was my

849
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,519
biggest fear. My biggest fear, and my wife's biggest fear

850
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:35,719
is leaving, uh, leaving Cooper in the car to die.

851
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay he was on the stand.

852
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,599
Speaker 4: I thought no, But when he was interviewed, oh, he

853
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,320
has said, yes, he has said that was my biggest fear,

854
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,480
and that's why I watched that video because I was

855
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,800
so scared of that happening. Yeah, Well, if you're so

856
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,639
scared of something happening. Then in your brain. I can

857
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,199
tell you that your brain is going to be that's

858
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,519
going to be You're going to be pretty vigilant, right

859
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:57,639
of course, and that's not going to probably happen to you.

860
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,519
So I do believe that he watched that video. Okay.

861
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,599
Also I think there there's a thing that he said

862
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,119
where he was a woman was saying, but you're married

863
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,079
and you have a kid, like, don't you have a conscience,

864
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,320
And he goes no, He basically admitted that he has

865
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920
no conscience. He doesn't feel guilt, guilt, any guilt. Okay.

866
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,719
So there's that, and then there's the fact there there's

867
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,239
the fact that he in an interview with the police,

868
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,719
the first thing that he says to his wife is

869
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,639
he's like, I didn't do this on purpose. And the

870
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:36,519
detectives pointed this out. Why if you accident, okay, you

871
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:39,480
leave your kid in the car and your child dies,

872
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
why would you say I didn't do it on purpose

873
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,800
unless you fucking did it on purpose? How would that

874
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,360
enter into your brain to go, I just want you

875
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,159
to know, I didn't do this on purpose. Now, why

876
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:55,559
would you say that unless you were Unless there.

877
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,159
Speaker 1: Was something say that would Adam say that what anybody

878
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,599
can't imagine.

879
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,199
Speaker 4: If John goes that I didn't do it on purpose,

880
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:06,440
and the police weren't saying at that point, you can't

881
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,400
like you could argue, oh, well, he was saying that

882
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,519
because the police were implying he did do it on purpose.

883
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,360
But they weren't. They were asking questions. No, not at

884
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,199
that point. They were not at They were not going like,

885
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,400
you did this on purpose, right, They were just gathering

886
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,840
information and they were saying like that he was responsible

887
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,519
for his son's death. They were never saying you did

888
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:27,199
it on purpose because they didn't think that at that point.

889
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,599
I mean, they were like, look, you have a responsibility.

890
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,400
You did leave your kid in the car, so we

891
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:38,719
need to figure out what happened. And so he said that.

892
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,880
Then he also said to the police at one point

893
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,920
early on, he said, uh, well, they said, well, you

894
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,840
know you left the kid in the car, and he goes, well,

895
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,599
there was no malicious intent. Well, why would you use

896
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,480
the phrase malicious intent unless you've been looking up information

897
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,400
about what the difference is, Like he knew way too

898
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,920
much about the laws regarding leaving your kid in the car.

899
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,800
And then there's just his whole personality was so narcissistic

900
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,519
that I really believe that he was that cut off

901
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,480
from like, he doesn't have empathy, he doesn't have a

902
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,559
sense of right and wrong, and I think that he

903
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,320
was all about I think he thought and based on

904
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
the evidence too, I think he thought that he would

905
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,280
actually the benefit of that happening would be that he'd

906
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,719
have more women to have sex with him, because it

907
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,000
would be like, oh my god, you poor thing, Like

908
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,400
he'd be get so much attention for the fact that

909
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,480
he lost his child in this tragedy and oh my god,

910
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:43,079
he was so fake with the crying, was really really fake,

911
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:48,159
I mean. And then there's the idea that he was

912
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,199
in the car and he claims he didn't smell anything,

913
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,800
and so they tried to take the defense tried to

914
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,639
say that the detectives misspoke and said that you could

915
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,079
smell They would have been able to smell like a

916
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,119
rotting body in a car. But and the defense said

917
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:10,599
that their experts said, no, it's very possible that you

918
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:14,400
wouldn't smell that, right, not that, but you would smell

919
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,239
something and this is what they said, you would smell

920
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,679
the kit pee and poop hmmm m and sweat. You

921
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,679
would definitely there would be a big odor that was

922
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,719
not no odor, you would smell something. So he claims

923
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,119
that he got in the car and was driving and

924
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,440
then all of a sudden he noticed his kid in

925
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,519
the back and then he pulled over. No, that was

926
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,519
so planned.

927
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: So what about that one part where he went during

928
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,679
his lunch hour and got like light bulbs or some

929
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,480
batteries and okay, so I think so a lot of

930
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,559
people claim that like, oh no, he could have not noticed.

931
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:54,519
But I think what he was doing is he was

932
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,719
going to if Cooper was dead, then that's when he

933
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,280
was going to quote discover the body and then he

934
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:01,880
could be like.

935
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,159
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he died. But either there was nobody around,

936
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,119
they weren't nobody stopped to see what was going on,

937
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,679
so he figured that was a bad time.

938
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

939
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:13,679
Speaker 4: Like for whatever reason, I think that was part of

940
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,800
the plan. Though. It was like, Okay, here's where I'm

941
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,599
gonna discover discover him.

942
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to go on my lunch hour by what

943
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,400
was it, light bulbs, batteries or something. Yeah, bad in

944
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,239
the car opens the door, tosses it into the car,

945
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:27,920
but because nobody else was around, didn't he go.

946
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: There was something? Yeah, but I think his friends had

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,360
walked ahead of him, like I think it would have been.

948
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,480
I think in that moment he was like, it's not

949
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:39,119
the right time, or maybe Cooper hadn't died yet, Oh Jesus,

950
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,400
I don't know, But I think that that doesn't like

951
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,400
they were trying to say that exonerates him, like he

952
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,880
didn't notice his son in the car. He just threw

953
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,840
the light bulbs in and was like looking up and

954
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,159
didn't notice the car seat, because the prosecution was saying

955
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,960
he saw his son at that point. But I think

956
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,599
that that doesn't matter. It doesn't no matter whether he

957
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:03,440
saw him or not. I think, uh, you know, and

958
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,760
it doesn't. I just think that, like, yes, you can

959
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,000
certainly accidentally leave your child in the car. But there

960
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,320
are so many reasons that I think that he was guilty.

961
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,400
He I feel like he acted so guilty a lot

962
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,079
of the things he said. But the honestly I didn't

963
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,239
do this on purpose is pretty pretty pretty Yeah.

964
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: That is that is that And also the whole going

965
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:31,480
just so happened that he has in his history of googling,

966
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,519
watching a video of animal dying in a car. Yeah,

967
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,559
and the words he used to the cops and stuff.

968
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: Oh my god. In the emotion was so over the top,

969
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,960
like so like like it wasn't real. It was so fake.

970
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,000
And then he was completely like he could turn it

971
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,639
on and off the crying, which gives me another narciss

972
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,880
total narsis nast. You're about what the reaction of other people.

973
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,119
You're so into what other people think of you. I

974
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,400
don't think he was trying to get away from his wife.

975
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:03,719
I just think it was more about like trying to

976
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,599
get disconnected. Really. I just think it was just like

977
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,320
I'll just I'll do this and then it's going, I'm

978
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,039
gonna get a lot of attention. I don't think he

979
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,000
liked having the responsibility of a kid. I think it

980
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:18,039
was just got getting in the way. Well I don't

981
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,199
know why, like a jury agreed with me.

982
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so what did the jury say?

983
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, guilty on all accounts, malicious intent, malicious murder, felony, murder, unnellieable.

984
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,800
I feel, what's what the wife about it? What's what

985
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,920
the wife She's like moved on, she's living with a boyfriend.

986
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,280
She's like, she's like, what does she what I don't know.

987
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: They don't have any other kids, so why why protect him?

988
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: And then there's also the thing that, like the defense

989
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,199
tried to say so many times, like why would she

990
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,480
stick up for him unless she really felt that his

991
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:57,159
character was that of somebody who would never do this?

992
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,559
Like she's like, listen, he was a lot of things,

993
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,480
and he was cheating on me, but he was a

994
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,679
good daddy, loved his kid. Well, how the fuck do

995
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,239
you know you had? He was texting thousands of women.

996
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,559
All he was doing all day long was sexting and

997
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:12,039
getting together with women for sex, and you had no idea, right,

998
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,360
She's like, well, I mean I knew a little bit,

999
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,400
but yeah, you're right, I didn't know he was living

1000
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,199
a total double life. And you had no idea. You

1001
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,079
thought he loved you and he didn't. So what's the truth.

1002
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:25,239
I mean, the truth is that you didn't know him

1003
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,679
and nobody really knew him. So how do you know

1004
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,039
he was a good daddy? You thought he was a

1005
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:30,559
good husband.

1006
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't can't imagine being the mother the wife, Like

1007
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,039
she seemed kind of strange to me though, like, wow,

1008
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:41,760
how is she keeping it to GAKM? She's not breaking down.

1009
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:44,440
I remember just the preliminary hearings and she's sitting in

1010
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,360
court and she's chewing her gum. I don't know if

1011
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,480
you were. I saw the video over and over on

1012
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,079
Nancy Go. She's just looking off into space, chewing gum

1013
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:52,840
while they're talking.

1014
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's why they thought she might be

1015
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,039
in on it. Yeah, they did think she was in

1016
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,400
on it first. She and she was so weird at

1017
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,800
her kids, like just weird right, like basically going like

1018
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,559
it's kind of making it's for the best, like, yeah,

1019
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:10,239
he's in a better place. It's all. Yeah, it's weird.

1020
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,199
But I don't know about her. But I don't know

1021
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,280
about her, but I do, and I did. Like I said,

1022
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,800
I was being very fair because I was kind of

1023
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,079
swayed for a while. I was like, yeah, I could

1024
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,360
see how he could be innocent. But then just the

1025
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,119
culmination of all the evidence, I can totally see how

1026
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:33,559
the Jerry found him guilty. There's just a lot of

1027
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:38,000
little things that add up to I can't see a

1028
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,239
way that he didn't do it on purpose. I can't

1029
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,880
see a way that he was it was really truly

1030
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,199
an accident. There's just too many things wow.

1031
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long has he gone for?

1032
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,639
Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, he's up. It's either going to

1033
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,400
be life in prison with the possibility of parole, or

1034
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,880
life in prison without the possibility. I don't know. How

1035
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,320
do you give parole if he if he if it's

1036
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,320
felony murder, if he with all the child abuse and

1037
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,079
the sexting underage girls like he was found guilty in

1038
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,840
all these counts, how do you get out?

1039
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:13,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that whole parole thing.

1040
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:15,119
I don't get that.

1041
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,079
Speaker 4: We need Mark Gergoes to explain the lad.

1042
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:21,079
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, thank you guys, Thank you for the love,

1043
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,199
Thanks for all your support. You like our show, Go

1044
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,679
tell friends, go tell you know. It's the holidays. You

1045
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:30,880
guys are going to be making chit chat at the table.

1046
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,840
Tell them how much you like our show. Spread the word.

1047
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, do it. You're parent now, don't lifit up.

1048
00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:01,119
Speaker 6: It never really mattered too much to me, but you

1049
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:09,039
are just too damn th for me. All they really

1050
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:16,800
mad was you're my your whole friend and baby saw

1051
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,159
that matter to me?

1052
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:33,639
Speaker 3: Let me love you then, let me love you know it's.

1053
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 6: Going to be Remember when two of you home from work.

1054
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: You love the way when you kiss me back.

1055
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,519
Speaker 6: All your friends think I'm just too young.

1056
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: For you for you tell can do guys their rage.

1057
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 4: Can do.

1058
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:07,559
Speaker 2: A low yielded.

1059
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,119
Speaker 5: Then if some.

1060
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:18,079
Speaker 2: Let it be lowly yielding, you know it's got to

1061
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:19,079
be so mud.

1062
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:43,599
Speaker 4: Never is mattered too much to me that you.

1063
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,639
Speaker 1: To them know me.

1064
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 6: As mad as well.

1065
00:56:53,159 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: You're my girl friend.

1066
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: That mattered to me. I'll be let me belove you,

1067
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,000
let me love you.

1068
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 4: You know it's going to be sooner.

1069
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:27,679
Speaker 1: Let me below you. Let me love.

1070
00:57:27,639 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 7: You know it's going to be fomer.

1071
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: And it was going to go.

1072
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,239
Speaker 7: No, no, no.

1073
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:34,079
Speaker 3: Love you.

1074
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 8: Stay tuned for the latest AP news headlines from podcast

1075
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,360
one right after this AP update. I'm ed Donahue. Rush

1076
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,199
hour today is lasting much longer than just an hour.

1077
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,519
Speaker 3: Please so they can go back. Thank you.

1078
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,639
Speaker 8: That's the sound of an Amtrak employee getting passengers on

1079
00:58:56,679 --> 00:58:59,239
a train headed to Washington from New York City. A

1080
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:03,239
triple expects about forty nine million people to travel fifteen

1081
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,199
miles or more between today and Sunday, the most since

1082
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:09,519
two thousand and seven. Amtrak says it is adding more trains,

1083
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:13,920
especially along the busy Midwest. Corrider Daniel Baker with flight

1084
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Aware says air travel looks good so far.

1085
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:20,199
Speaker 7: None of the airlines at this point are expecting significant

1086
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:22,239
disruptions for the peers that were in good shape for

1087
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,519
the pre Thanksgiving travel day.

1088
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 8: There was a storm that moved through Houston earlier that

1089
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,599
briefly grounded flights at George Bush Intercontinental Airport. Meantime, forecasters

1090
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:34,960
say there was some light rain in Chicago, which is

1091
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,239
a major airline hub, but delays were only averaging about

1092
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,119
fifteen minutes.

1093
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Ap update.

1094
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 8: I met Donahue.

1095
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: This is Corolla Digital