Speaker 1: Made dess.
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Speaker 3: Night.
Speaker 4: Happy Friday, mofos. Hello, welcome to for crying out loud. Wow,
I never start the show. This night's awkward. That's your host,
Lynette Corolla. She's gorgeous and talented and well spoken.
Speaker 1: I like to take Stephanie. I like to take you
by surprise sometime when Caitlin gives us the finger to go,
I look at Stephanie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, I love it. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, it's Friday. Oh I got a funny, juicy
story to tell you. What how I got molested by
it massuse. Oh my god, I can't wait. Tell us
that first and then we'll then we'll hear from our
sponsors after. You can see that coming. Ah shit, okay,
well hmm so hm. You know Anthony's wedding right, Yeah,
my nephew Suzanne, she did the whole thing. And my
nephew Anthony says to me, Auntie, Lynette, what can we
get Suzanne for a thank you? Oh, Anthony, you don't
have to thank her, she loves you. But if you
want to thank her and get her a gues certificate
to a SPA that's near me, that we've gone to before,
and Susanne and I like once every two months or whatever,
she comes to my hood. We go to that spa,
we get the asside and we go out to dinner.
It's it's it's fairly inexpensive. It's not like Burke Williams.
It's and it's really good, okay, Auntielynnette. So he does.
So Suzanne says to me last week, Auntie Lynnette, and
she calls me, Lynnette, you want to go get a
massage on Friday night. And it was the night that
Phil had a surgery. Oh no, all right, So so
at six o'clock she makes the appointment and okay, So
Thursday evening I had the It was perfect because it was,
like I told you how busy I was traveling during
the election week, came back and then went right in
Anthony's wedding, and then came back and then went right
into the fundraiser. So Friday it was like decompressed night.
Susanna and I are gonna go get a massage. Phil
gets sick. I have to rush him to the hospital
at four o'clock. Our appointments are at six o'clock. The
nurse goes okay, So just leave him here. We'll do
an X ray on him, and the doctor will give
you a call and let you know. I said, what
time you think the doctor's gonna call? Oh? He let
me check. She comes back, probably around six. I'm god,
damn it, I said, okay, Well, I have a meeting
at six. She said, but just keep your phone on
you and he'll make it quick. I'll just tell you
what he found or whatever. Luckily he called me like
an hour, call me at five. So anyways, okay, so
it was almost off. But then so we go to
the to the spa and Suzanne knows that I like Maya.
If I have a choice, she's prude, so she always
gets the female. So they are like, well we have
a female and a male. Well, she gives me the male,
which is fine with me. Now, this guy I've had before,
I don't know if I remember telling you.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, let me see if it's still
sounding familiar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had him before before, and I cannot
tell if he's okay. So I lay down and he
starts and he's it's deep. It's a deep tissue massage.
Maybe I should like okay, So he starts to give
me massage, and he does that thing where he's like,
you know those massusaes sometimes how they breathe.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking because I don't like massages.
Speaker 1: Oh don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want somebody breathing like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he does that, you know they do that breathe.
Speaker 4: So he's like transferring his energy, yes, like that whole thing,
you know.
Speaker 1: And so he's rubbing me down. It's kind of like
it's hard, but it's kind of our And he does
that thing which he pulls my shoulder so he's on Okay,
he's on the left side of me, but he takes
my right shoulder and he starts to he has my
hand around my back like a like, is it like
he's arresting. Yeah, like he's arresting me. And he pulls
my shoulder up, but he starts pulling it so high
up that I'm lifted off the table. Yeah, so like
my you know you bob. Yeah. And I'm not a prude,
but I'm like, I'm i supposed to be relaxed right now,
because if that's the case, I'm not relaxing even just
hearing about it alone.
Speaker 4: If it happened to me.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, all right, listen, lint it, just
go with it. And I have the phone on just
in case, a thing all the time thing, and uh
so my phone is over there. So he's doing his
massage and he's doing that. So then he leans over
and he does so he has his whole all his
arms on top, so it's his growing is right on
my ponytail. He start like pulling on my skin, like
really pushing, and I could feel he's hard. No, no, no, no.
Then he goes and does the other side. No he does,
And I was like, is that his elbow? No, like
putting two and three and four together and going, oh,
that's his thing, that's his tingly ding.
Speaker 4: Oh no, on your ponytail.
Speaker 1: On my ponytail, on my shoulder, on my back. He
got on top of the table. He got on top
of the table and he puts his knees onto my
lower on my back, into my back. I swear to guys, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna have PTSD from this story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what were you doing? I know he was
going with it. I don't know. I was just like,
were you horrified or.
Speaker 4: Were you just like I'm to pretend this isn't how
were you leaving your body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what happens.
Speaker 4: When were you enjoying it?
Speaker 1: I wasn't really enjoying it. It was kind of awkward
because I had him before and he was doing this
kind of stuff but not to this extent. And I
thought last time it was he hard. I couldn't tell.
I don't know, you know, it wasn't like this. This
was really like very like like rock hard, yes, and
like pulling me up and uh like so like you know,
and then like to where like my, my, my chat,
my whole upper body was off the table because he's
stretching me. And then and then yeah, and then he's
not normal fore no, no, no.
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to report this guy.
Speaker 1: I know. No, he's kind of not okay. Then he
was like then he was like up like my leg
all the way up and then no, did he touch
your coochie? He didn't, but he close Yeah, and then
he massage the buttocks area. Yeah that's all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was do you think he was like headed
for happy? Like if you'd given him the word, if
you'd been like I like that, would he have just
gone for it?
Speaker 1: I was don't think. I wasn't thinking that shit crossed
my mind left and rose all over my mind. I
was like, well, what is he thinking? I'm thinking? So
then I turn over and then he does the he
does the head that the scalp all that thing, and
then he goes okay. So then it's like when it's over,
they start toat they start to rewind, like they start
to wind down.
Speaker 4: He he liked, how did he wind up? Was he
still hard?
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 4: He wind down?
Speaker 1: Water on his face now he he's he lick candles
in the room, and then like I could smell incense burning.
It's kind of that. It's a hippie kind of massage place.
It's also like that Korean they have the Koreans. There's
a lot of like freaky deaky stuff going on. But uh,
I mean not.
Speaker 4: Whatever, it's I seriously doubt Suzanne was getting raped in
the other room.
Speaker 1: No she wasn't, No, she wasn't. She had chatty Cathy
in the other room. She's like, she wouldn't stop talking,
so and.
Speaker 4: You're like, he wouldn't stop trying to fuck me. Same thing. Oh, massages,
you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 4: Mine was sexually assaulting me.
Speaker 1: My god, seene, he goes, I was.
Speaker 4: Trying to talk about recipes. Whoa brother, So.
Speaker 1: He goes, okay, he was like this, he goes, I can't.
He's like, relax your body and.
Speaker 5: Then he says, feel the way of your body on
the table, starting with your heels, moving up your body
to your uh.
Speaker 4: He said something.
Speaker 1: He said something like that. He didn't say he said
hands a sweet spot. He said good, but it was
something like that, like your nature box or something. And
then he shoulders and then he said, nature, let your
hands fall to where they let your hands fall to
where they feel like falling or something like that. And
my hands were they were.
Speaker 4: Actually fall on my penis's that's it. Don't try to
stop it.
Speaker 1: Hold on. Let me put some lotion on my hand first.
Speaker 4: Now they fall on my Nature's stick. That's fine, go
with it.
Speaker 1: Meanwhiles his hand's got The lady I was Halloween.
Speaker 4: My kids are grown?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh what were your kids for Halloween? This?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what how did it end?
Speaker 1: My husband has custody my kids. So she was talking
about it ended pretty happy. No, I'm kidding no, and
that's how it ended. He was like he was just
talking to me, like he said something about my area.
Then he said, let your hands fall to where they go.
I don't something. What do you want my hands to?
They were just on the table. Yeah, and then he left.
I was like, oh my god, I feel like I
was just violated. It wasn't relaxing at all.
Speaker 4: How much do you tip for that? I like, do
you tip more because you're like your way right, or
do you tip less to go like, hey, don't try
to rape me in the future next.
Speaker 1: Time, literally put that thing away. What I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 4: This is why I don't get massages. I'm just really concerned.
There is such a fine line between relaxation and rape,
and I don't want to have to worry about line
was being crossed.
Speaker 1: No, I know. Then Suzanne's like, bitch, I'm the single one.
How come I couldn't have I said, well, you're the
prude one too, because you don't like guys, So that's
what you get. That's your own dumbfall. You had to
have then listen about her husband's custody of her children.
How's Halloween for you? Because she's, you know, all bummed
out by herself on Halloween. That was the story Suzanne.
Speaker 4: Got, Oh my god, By Dammy, that's crazy. Yeah, I
don't know how we follow that. That's like, that was
kind of a show.
Speaker 1: End talk about nature boss. It's been minutes.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that would be amazing. We still had
nature box.
Speaker 1: Meant, so, what's going on?
Speaker 4: I okay, I have a little funny story for you.
It's not about getting raped during a massage. That funny.
Speaker 1: What forget it?
Speaker 4: But so I was driving with Elby to school the
other the other day and uh, she goes mom, She goes, mom,
we were talking about Christmas and she goes, Santa's not real? Right?
And Elbe is twelve. So this was a conversation that
probably should have happened about five years ago, right right.
But I was like, she, okay, I think I told
you the other day that Maddie said, is Santa Claus real?
And I said what do you think? And he said, yeah,
I think I think he is. And I said, oh,
why do you Why do you think? And he's like, well,
because I think I've seen a footprint, because John has
gone to great lengths to me. Yeah, he put a
little boot print on the fireplace. Yeah, And Maddie's like
there was a boot print on the fireplace, and plus
he eats the cookies, so I mean, and I was like, well, yeah, well,
so Elbe says to me right now that I'm saying
it out loud, what, well, I kind of did, and
he was, but he was he had convinced himself. He
was like, no, I think it's real. And I was like, okay, then, yeah, right,
and so Elbie goes, Santa's not real, right, and I
smiled and she was like he's not He's not real,
and I was like, yeah, he's not fucking real.
Speaker 1: Elv Or twelve.
Speaker 4: But it was so like it felt like such a milestone,
and she was actually she started grinning from ear to ear.
She's like, oh my god, it's definitely. She's like, yeah,
I kind of suspected. I was really starting to suspect hut.
And I said, what was making you suspect? And she said, well,
I mean the last couple how long have you been suspecting?
And she goes, probably like the last two Christmases? She goes,
I don't know. The writing is like I kind of
recognized the writing even though it's from Sanna, and I
was like, of it. I asked her, what was keeping
her believing? Yeah, and she goes, well, I guess just
like the world, like there's Nora the Santa Tracker, and
everybody is into it. Like there's nobody saying that it's
not real. Everyone's pretty much saying it's real. So she goes,
I kind.
Speaker 5: Of m hmm.
Speaker 4: She goes, I would, I would bring up these questions
in my head, she goes, But then I'd be like, eh,
it's real, it's real. Yeah, she goes, But then I
don't know, She goes, I was just really starting to question.
And then I said, well, Alby, so it's not real.
I go, but so you get to be my helper?
And she was so excited. She was like, yes, I can,
I can? I can you wake me up? And I
want to rap presence for Sadie and Maddie and I
want to be in on it and can I help
eat the cookies and make it look like Santa was there?
And I was like yeah, of course. But then of
course everything crumbled down. She was like, so, I go, well,
so you stopped believing in the Easter Bunny a few
years ago. She goes, yeah, well, because I saw you
hiding the eggs and I go, so she goes tooth Fairy.
Now I still fucking believed in the tooth Fairy. Linnette,
what is wrong with my kids?
Speaker 1: She doesn't Dutch? Did she really?
Speaker 4: She really kind of? Did? I go, she goes tooth
Fairy and I go, yeah, no, that's us, And she's like, oh, yeah,
that's what I thought. And I go, be honest, did
I just ruin the tooth Fairy for you? Cause you know,
John and I go to we get elaborate with the
tooth fairy. They each have their own tooth fairy. They
have their own tooth Fray. They each have a name.
One is Gwyneth, one is Esmeralda, and one is Clarissa.
And their tooth fairies write the note every single time
they lose a tooth, except what I forget.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. My kids trick me and their teeth
come out and I don't know it's at school, and
they forget to tell me. Then they put it underneath
the pillow, and then it's just under the pillow, and
then five days go by and they go, guess what
my tooth is under the pillow? Rich And I'm like, well,
why don't you fucking tell me I have to email
the tooth fairy. How do you think she knows? What
do you think she knows automatically their tooth came out?
You have to tell I have to know emailer.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm I gotta send her a fax, you know,
you know, or tweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes she checks her Facebook, pabe, she got inventions.
Speaker 4: She has to check her timeline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think it just happens?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so my kids and they get
so bent out of shape.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, the Easter Bunny this year screwed up big time.
I mean, it was melted because of the construction going
out at the house. And Natalie's like, ever since that Easter,
we have been crushed because we know that Easter Bunny,
if there was really an Easter Bunny, would not have
left us an Easter rabbit that was melted and his
eye was down at the bottom of.
Speaker 4: One horror movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a horror movie the Easter Bunny. And I
was like, and then She's like, can you try to
blame it on construction, mom? Please? I was like, all right, well,
I'm telling you there is If that's what you want,
I believe, fine, But yeah, so what so the easter
Bundy makes a mistake every now and then too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I asked Elbe. I was like, did it ever?
Did it ever? Give it away? When? Like because sometimes
I've slipped up and been like, remember when I got
you the sleeping bag for Christmas last year? And then
I get that like, oh, I can't remember if Santa
brought that or I brought it? And then I'm like,
are they going to remember because Elbie's got that crazy memory?
Speaker 1: Talia?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she said no, she said that never did it?
And I said, what about how sometimes I would use
the same wrapping paper that Sanna uses, but on the
ones that were like from me right, I always had
a thing I was always like, if I ever get asked,
I'll just say, like I help Sannah wrap the presence,
But then how would I help wrap I don't know.
That wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1: No, you know it's funny Natalia has done that to me,
Like after like three weeks after Christmas, I'll say, oh,
is that my lip gloss and She'll say, no, that's
my lip glass I got for Christmas. And I'll say, uh, oh,
why don't you use the scarf that I gave you
for Christmas, and she'll say, you didn't give me that
scar Sannah did. Like me, Sanathana, me, I can't remember
right day, I remember that shit. Gina Kimmel, Jimmy's ex wife,
she always wrapped her kids. To this day, their kids
are out of college, she wraps them in red, solid red,
solid green from Sanna. That way, she they there's no mistake.
It's always red and green, solid red, salad green wrapping paper.
Speaker 4: But as we've talked about, as we've discussed, I don't
see how it's fair that Sanna gets credit right in anything. Right,
Sanna didn't buy you anything I did exactly.
Speaker 1: So wait so wait let's say so then Elbie now
what now?
Speaker 4: So now Elbe doesn't believe in anything, but but oh
and then great a reel.
Speaker 1: Now is the blage?
Speaker 4: Is that real too? Alvie said, uh so. Then like
a day had gone by her two days and the
other day she's like, mom, elf on the shelf, God
bless see you. And I said, yeah, not real, and
she was like that's what I thought. Okay, but and
I'm like, I just ruined that elf on the shelf
now too. She's like, well, I just when I was
younger and I was at my friend's house and because
I'll never forget this, she was probably kindergarten. She went
to her friend Greta's house and the mom Trina texted
me or called me or something, and was like, oh
my god, it was so cute. We had brought out
the elf on the shelf and we didn't have one
at this time, and I was tricking them with it,
you know, I put the oflf on the shelf and
then I tell them to, like I don't know, close
their eyes or I distract them. And then she put
it somewhere else and she goes, oh my god. They
were loving it so much. They were they totally believed it. Well,
Elbe was so it made such an impression on her
that it was real that she still had that magic. Like,
she goes, well, but then, how do you explain years
ago when I was at Greta's house and I was like,
Trina did it? She was like, oh, but she's twelve,
and right, yeah's interesting that she still like believed in
that magic.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Oh, And then she goes, well, then, how oh, before
I said that's me, I said, elf on the Shelf's
not real and then she goes. I swear to god,
she goes. But how does it work? Then?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's cute, that's cute. I remember when that
stupid elf on the shelf came for the first time.
The tally was she was creeped out by her. She'd
sit there and stare at her face and be like, so,
this thing's gonna move around in the house.
Speaker 4: It scared her for I.
Speaker 1: Don't want her in my room, like I don't want
to carry Yeah, and then she'd stare at her face
and then you know, after you stare at something for
a long time and go ah. I saw her move
her her eye moved. I saw her eye move. She blinked,
like all right, But now I don't I don't know
where they stand on anything anymore because there's a stupid
tooth fairy and the Easter bunny screwed me up right.
Speaker 4: Well, I know that Sadie and Mattie fully still believe
in Sanna. So then in Sadie's starting to have suspicions,
which is possible. She's very mature. She's my most mature
child in certain ways. Oh my god, I have another
quick funny story. Yeah, tell me so Okay, So yesterday,
I don't I have a thing. My kids like to
oose my computer all the time. I don't like it
when they close the computer.
Speaker 1: Oh I have that, And I was going to tell
you something. Yeah, well, because I have a computer kids
thing too. No, now you go go go What do
you mean they close?
Speaker 4: Well, like, I don't want them to mess with it,
like use the computer. That's fine, open a new window
player roadblocks your games, but then leave the computer, like
close out of that window if you're done, because the
problem is sometimes the computer can get buggy from those games,
like it can freeze it up or whatever. So I
don't like them to just when it freezes up and
they can't, then they just close it, which I think
makes it more buggy. It doesn't put it to sleep,
it I feel maybe it's in my head. I don't know. Missus.
John tried to tell me that it doesn't do anything bad,
but I've told him in the past, don't turn my
computer off, like, ask me first before if you want
to reset it, ask me first. Don't just shut it
down and restart it. And also just don't close it
and leave it. Okay. So the other day I see
my computer, and the kids have been on it, Sadie
and Maddie because Lbie has her own computer and it's closed.
And I was like, hey, who used my computer last?
I don't know. I was like, well, one of you
is on my computer and you closed it, and you
know I don't like that, Like I've asked you so
many times not to close my computer. Which one of
you guys did it?
Speaker 1: Easter Bunny?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they both so Maddie says, well, Sadie was
the last one on your computer. And I was like, okay,
So Sadie, what don't close my computer? She's like, I didn't.
And I was like, well one of you did because
I didn't. Daddy didn't. LB hasn't been on my computer.
That leaves Penelope didn't because she doesn't know how to
use the computer yet. So it was one of you two,
So which one was it? I wasn't me, And it
wasn't me. Okay. I'm like, okay, Well, if neither one
of you is going to take responsibility, then you're both
going to lose computer privileges for the all tomorrow. You
can't use my computer. Well, it wasn't me. So Maddie's like, mom,
I wasn't on your computer. It wasn't me. And Sadie's like, well,
I didn't do it. So then she has a freak
out like she's like I did, and storms off, goes
in her rooms, slams the door, and then John and
I hear her proceed to like cry and yell and
scream like a crazy like and I'm like, oh my god,
what is wrong with her? So like so upset, screaming
and crying, and I was like okay, and then John goes, well,
you know, it doesn't really hurt the computer to close it.
I'm like, not helpful, right now, That's not the point.
The point is that neither one of them would take responsibility,
and one of them did it, and so they let
themselves both get in trouble rather than one of them
stepping up and saying so I just let him. I
let her freak out. And I was like, I'm not
going to go in there and talk to her because
that let's her off the hawk. Let her come to me.
So then Maddie comes in a few minutes later and
he's like, just came in to say good night. It's
like eight forty five, it's there's no school the next day,
I'm like, really, you're going to you're going to bed?
And he goes, well, I guess. I'm like, what are
my kids are already being manipulative martyrs? Come on? So
I'm like, okay, good night. So he wanders off right
then Sadie's still crying. Then she she comes into the
other room and uh, she said some Oh she I said,
why are you in there crying? And then she's like
she goes because I didn't do anything? And I'm like, oh, okay,
I go, well, here's the theme. Here's the deal. That
would be like my phrase that I say all the
time too much. I go, here's the deal. One of
you two did it. So if it was you, by
you not admitting it, you got Matilda in trouble too. Maddie, sorry,
not Matilda anymore. You got Maddie in trouble and yourself
in trouble. I go, No, if Maddie is the one
who did it, then by him not taking responsibility, he
got you both in trouble. So wouldn't it have been
easier if one of you just said I did it?
But I did I do it?
Speaker 1: I'm fag.
Speaker 4: Like okay, So she walks off. Okay. Then like five
minutes later and I'm sitting there and I'm pissed. But
then she comes back. Oh, I go, well, then you
and Maddie should go talk. You guys should go talk,
figure out who did it, and come and take responsibility, right, okay?
And so she goes off like five they both come out.
Stadie's crying. She's like, Mom, I'm the one who closed
your computer. I didn't I didn't know. I wasn't supposed
to close it. And I'm like, well, why did you
lie and say you didn't do it? I was scared
to tell you. And I'm like, okay, well I don't
understand why, because I go, I am like the nicest mom.
I go, I what would happen? I go, would I start?
Would I beat you? Would I even probably punish you?
I go. You got punished because you lie, because you
wouldn't accept responsibility. I go, Not if you had just
said I closed it? What do you think would have happened?
What in the past has happened to you? When's the
last time you really got in trouble for something? Neither
one of them could even think about it, which I
think is a poor reflection of my own parent I now.
Maddie's like, well, I think you gave me a time
out like maybe a year ago, and I was like, yeah,
this is not making me look good. You guys never
get punished. I rarely scream at you. I go the
only time I really get frustrated is if you're not
cleaning up after yourself. And I have to tell you
the same thing a million times, but you never I
never lose my shit. I never like go crazy. You're
hardly ever punished. I was like, so, what gives I go?
Why are you scared to tell me? And She's like,
I just didn't want you to be mad at me.
And I was like, okay, have we learned a lesson?
I'm going to be mad or if you don't just
say I did it, and if you lie to me,
I'm gonna get really mad. And that was over and
then she's in a greatment.
Speaker 1: But that is exactly what happens in my household all
the time. I mean, I always do this whole thing
where it's like you come clean or tell me if
you did it or whatever, did you do your whatever,
And it's like, if you would have just told me.
But by the way, when when I just had the
same speech to them, you guys are lucky. I never
when you never get grounded, you know, because I have
this issue where I gotta go to target, even though
I don't want to go to target, or I gotta
go and whatever it is on a Saturday or Sunday.
Let's do this, let's do that, let's I get pushed around,
and finally, I finally just said, listen, no, we're not
gonna do anything. We're just gonna sit and chill. You
have iPad, you have books, you have the backyard, you
have a dog, you have a swing of everything. We
are not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not Julie the
cruise director constantly not Julie our friend, uh, you know,
taking you everywhere around town. I'm tired of it. I'm
tired of it. I'm not doing it. The next day
it's like I'm back going to tough. Here we go,
let's go to target. Five minutes in target and that's it.
You know, It's like that's like enough. I'm sick of it.
I tell them that I said, you guys are lucky
that I feel like a nadie. I feel like a
jacket I'm one of those parents that I hated, Like, ugh,
those parents that just don't can't say no to their
kids or whatever.
Speaker 4: And it's like, Mom, can we go to Michael's and
get glue for the slime project. I'm starting a business
and I'm selling slime at school.
Speaker 1: I need glue. Ugh. Okay, We're going to UCLA game
with Doctor Drew and missus Pinske and we're going and
they get to bring a friend and we're going.
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, let me tell you a little
Susan Pinsk.
Speaker 1: Susan's kids, they're all grown, they're in their college, right
out of college. She has two boys and a girl
that the boys are at home now it's holidays and
they have friends and it's UCLA versus USC and she
texts me and we share season, we share the seats
and she texts me and she says, it's the biggest
game or you know, are you guys going? And I
said yes, And she said how many? And I said four?
And she said who are you coming? Who are you bringing?
I said me, And I never bring Adam. Adam doesn't.
I don't like to go. I'm not a football Fine, yeah,
going to UCLA. I don't like it. It's cold, it's freezing.
There's no like beer, there's nothing. It's just like whatever.
It's fine, but I do it for the day.
Speaker 4: They would have beer. It's college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not all people do in college, I guess. But
they don't. They don't. They didn't. They don't, which is fine.
And I've only gone one time this season. Okay, one
one time this season. I've used those seats. And then
I said, yes, four. She says, who are you bringing?
I said, me and three kids. She's like kids, question mark,
question mark. I was like, oh Jesus, who do you
want me to bring? Susan. I'm not hanging out with
Warren baby, will you? I'm sorry? I got my kids.
So anyway there and now back to the So Natalie
is like, we're gonna be freezing at the game tonight.
I said, yeah, we are. Let's go to Dick's Sporting
Good and get UCLA sweat jackets.
Speaker 4: No, are you crazy? What she do?
Speaker 1: I'm out? She's texting me while I'm getting my massage.
She's can we go to Dix? Can we go Dick's
no exclamation, but now leave me alone. I come home
and she's like Daddy's taking us. I was like, really,
it's taking us. They said, Daddy's leaving to go out
of town tomorrow. But yeah, but Daddy's not going till
later in the afternoon. He said he could take us
in the morning. Okay, if he wants to spoil you,
brat's fine. What happens the next day, Daddy's we go
on a walk, we talk about building onto the house,
which is another's show, which I'm gonna have to talk about.
I'm gonna have to go into therapy because he wants
to build more onto the house, and uh and I
and then next thing, you know, oh, look at the time,
Adam says, I gotta go to the airport now. But Daddy,
you said, you're gonna take us a sport and Italian
so and Sonny's bringing the boy that she has a
crush on the ole man and you said, I and
my heart set on it. And you said, you said,
you said, well, how about I take you when I
get back. No, that's not gonna work. We're going to
the game tonight. Well you're going, you know. He does
the whole thing and then he's like, well, Mommy'll take you.
And I was like, why why I have its whole
day planned. I'm at home. There's no fill fills in
the hospital. I'm cleaning this house, organizing, I got stuff
to do. I was at this the front. I'm tired.
I got a massage and everyone who has to take
the game, Yeah, I got to take them to the
game exactly, And he's like, well, you could take on
a deck. Sporting Gus was the big and it's like no.
Then we go to Dick Sporting Good and Sonny's like,
you're like three hours later, I'm miserable. Now I'm looking
at That's why I got this outfit under arm or.
I was like, wow, they got some nice stuff here.
Mommy's gonna get herself some workout clothes. So then he's like,
can we go to Target after this? I said no,
and the tal He's like, no, Sonny, we got to
get home and get ready for the UCLA game.
Speaker 4: Cut too, You're at Target.
Speaker 1: Yes, go to Target, And I was like, I just
want you guys this room for Target, Like this is
the last time I'm ever doing this. What you got.
I am not I know I'm a pushover, but I'm
not doing this. And you know why I do it?
Because you guys, because I love you. But you guys
are good kids. You may not have the best grades
in the world, but you're good kids. You're good. You
were at the Thursday night. They were miserable at the
at the fundraiser that we took them to because there
was no other kids, and they were just can we go?
Can we go? We're tired? Can we go? They stayed,
they got up early, they went to school the next day.
They were troopers, but still come on like spoiled. I'm
ashamed of myself, I really am. I am take them
at UCLA game with their friends and take them to
buy a sweat jacket Ucla sweat jacket. And then she's like,
we got to get Matthew a jacket too. No, no,
no walk out or there no jacket. We got him
a hat. Terrible. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed of myself. It's
hard to say no to kid, it is. Then Italia
does this thing. She says, Mom, Yeah, in the car
was Sonny on the way to pick up well her
little boyfriend.
Speaker 4: She said, a.
Speaker 1: Little Buddha Cammy told me that you got kicked off
an airplane. Oh God, here we go, I said, how
does Cammy know. Well, Cammy said to me your mom,
did you know your mom got kicked off an airplane?
And the tis like no, and camm He's like, oh, sorry,
I shouldn't have told you anything. Maybe it's not true.
Speaker 4: My God.
Speaker 1: She's like, maybe she's talk to your mom about it. Uh.
And I said, okay, because all I have to do
is like google right Southwest Airlines. So I don't know
if Cammy's because Cammy's dad listens to Adams Show. I
doubt it that's how she found out. I think she
probably was on the Internet and something somehow came. It
came up because if you google, I mean, if you say,
if Lynnett, Carola Natalia, you think.
Speaker 4: Cammy's googling you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's googling me. But they are at
that age where they're doing their music leaves and they're
liking things and there. I don't know, but I don't
think mister mister Buddha said anything that. I don't think
mister Buddha went and said, hey, Natalia's mom got kicked
off an airplane and she saw it on the internet.
And she has an older sister too. Oh, so there's that,
so I said, okay, well this is what happened. I
told them the story. And then Matthew gets in the
car and they're like, as we're walking away, mister and missus,
Matthew are spy. I have a nice time. Natalia could
not have been louder and more clear and says, wait
to hear the story about my mom getting kicked off
an airplane.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was like telling bye, guys, bye.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's so embarrassing. God knows what the other
parents must think anyways, you know, all they gotta do,
Like you got to think too, Like I'm on Facebook
posting about you know, bar crawls and Lackey's and you know,
alcohol and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I don't well, by the way, if you google me, yeah,
because I've never bothered to try to undo any of this.
But if you google me, the first stuff that pops
up is like alcoholic, like because on the Today Show,
on the like it's all alcoholic. Blogger admits to alcohols, alcoholism, alcohol,
I know, right, this is alcohol alcohol alcohol.
Speaker 1: Google booz booz booze.
Speaker 4: Here you go. Look, secret life mom confesses to alcoholism,
you know underneath ye oh my god, Paul Thomas Anderson
shot a radiohead video, but you weren't supposed to know.
Speaker 1: It's basically I mean poor stuff.
Speaker 4: Is that just the stuff that is? How does that work?
Speaker 1: I don't that's.
Speaker 4: Look if you keep going watch Okay, there's my.
Speaker 1: Books Heroin of Cocktail Moms. Sober up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, you're just gonna see a lot of
stuff about me. And by the way, it's been almost
eight years and now I have to just how are
you gonna?
Speaker 1: Like? I don't like this stuff now? So I told
my kids the story of the Southwest Airline debacle and
they were just they were like, how dare they do that?
Speaker 4: Like you're their mom?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were pissed and they're like, have you ever
seen that guy? The weirdo? Thanks a lot, you weirdo guy.
And I said, never saw him again, but if I
ever see his fucking ass, I'm going to beat him
down and say that to them. But I will if
I ever see that kid, Oh god, I'll never forget
him ever.
Speaker 4: I think that, Uh, it's fine for kids to know
that stuff because there's a lot of perks. Listen, are
there a lot of negative from being known. I'm not
let alone famous just from people knowing who you are
and being public at all. Are there are there downsides? Yes,
but there's also a lot of perks.
Speaker 1: As Adam would say, membership has its privileges.
Speaker 4: Mama, Yeah, yeah, So I think it's fine for them
to know stuff. Mike kids know, like they understand too,
like what alcoholism is and what being drunk is, and
they they know that I haven't had a drink since
they were really little, right they and they kind of
love it, like they think it's sort of cool. Yeah,
Like they'll say so and so drinks alcohol, but I
know you don't drink alcohol and you stopped seven years
ago or whatever, And I go, yeah, I did they
think it's cool?
Speaker 1: It is, Yes, I that's nothing wrong. I don't think
there's anything wrong with it. I just don't want like
the comments and stuff.
Speaker 4: Like that, right exactly, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the wrong information you know, like, oh, you know
what kind of story is that of you know, she
was causing a scene at the airport. Yeah, that's me.
Anybody that knows me I caused.
Speaker 4: An It's such a stupid story anyway, because obviously it's
like that's honestly just a customer service nightmare and a
thing that happened that was ridiculous if you do, embarrassing
for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you don't know me very well and
you just like I'm just the wife of it, like Adam,
I don't know if Mark Marin's wife or whatever. I
don't know like you people. I mean, it's a ridiculous story.
Speaker 4: It's like, but the only reason it became a story
is because you talked about it. So it's not like
it's not like you got arrested for being drunken disorderly
and then you were telling the story and trying to
tell your side. It's something that you were the victim
in it, right, and you talked about it because you
were pissed, so it became a bigger story. But it's
not like something bad happened.
Speaker 1: No, I know you were, but you know how people like, yeah,
you know, of course, I like, yeah, yeah, of course
she was. Yeah she was drunk and causing a scene
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Right, but you told, you know, the correct story, and
there's no proof. There's no story out there that's the opposite.
Besides people's conjecture.
Speaker 1: If anybody is happens to know anybody. It was July
of not last summer, but the summer before. I would
love to get somebody that was on that plane's side
of the story. It's just somebody me too. Yeah, let's
put it out there, all right.
Speaker 4: So what was the other thing I wanted to talk about? Oh,
let's just talk for a minute about Hot Car Dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Okay I talked about that. Yeah, because okay,
so Hot Car Dad is justin Harris, and we talked
about this story way a long time ago when it
first happened, because I was horrified, right, and there was
some Okay, then there's a there's a podcast called The Breakdown,
right where they have talked about the whole case, and
I followed the case on the Breakdown and I was
starting to be There's a one of our listeners follows
me on Twitter, and she tweeted at me about how
the verdict came out and how she thought maybe he
was not guilty. And then I told her, Oh, I
have so much more to say about this, but I'm
going to have to direct message you because but then
I never did. So if you're listening, here's my take
on it. Yeah, go go go so, okay, some listening.
I listened to both sides, and I have to say,
the thing that made me go like, well, maybe he
didn't do it was the idea that his wife. So
they interviewed his wife or you could hear her taking
the stand what she was saying, and she took the
stand in his defense. The wife who now they're divorced
and she's got like a new boyfriend, and you know.
Speaker 1: And you said she seemed very smart.
Speaker 4: Smart, and she did say like that. She told him
do you want a divorce, Like, I'll give you a divorce,
like if that's what you want. And then he goes, no,
I don't want that, okay. So there was a part
of me that was like, okay, that would be the motive.
Like to me, his motive would be, I want to
be single. I don't want to have a wife and kid.
I want to just be able to indulge my sex
addiction all day and all night and not have like
an obligation that's getting in the way of my texting
and getting together with women for sex, right which he
was doing. It's been proven like pretty much all day,
every day meeting women for sex and you know, hiring prostitutes.
This is all proven, so it's not in question. And
you know, sexting with different women, like a bunch of
different women. Okay. So I was like, well that okay,
so that would be Then I was like, well, I
mean maybe he did love his kid. And then they
played some like videotape of him like singing a song
with his kid, and it was kind of cute, and
I was like, well, I mean maybe it was an
act and maybe he was just so distracted by all
the sexting he was doing that he did accidentally do it, right,
But no, no, he's guilty. And here's why I keep
coming back to why he and the defense was saying
all the things that I'm saying, Like that was basically
their defense. Yes he left his kid in the car,
but it was an accident. Yes he's a bad guy.
Yes he was sexting, but he didn't do it on purpose.
He loved his kid.
Speaker 1: But what of the Google search?
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so and the child free website they did
kind of debunk it because he it was a friend
of his said, oh I tried to send him this
link to this child free website and he said, oh,
that's stupid. That's gross. I don't like people that are like, oh,
I'm trying. Okay, but he did google and watch stuff
about how long it takes for an animal to die
in a hot car. Okay, that's that's one thing that
I just don't I don't see how you find your
way around that one. Like, okay, he says, Well, it's
because I was so scared of that happening. Okay, if
you're so scared of that happening, then that if that really,
if you're so scared of it happening that you've watched
a video about how long it takes for an animal
to die in a hot car, then I'm sorry, but
you're probably going to be extra vigilant about it, like
if you're He said on the stand, that was my
biggest fear. My biggest fear, and my wife's biggest fear
is leaving, uh, leaving Cooper in the car to die.
Speaker 1: Okay he was on the stand.
Speaker 4: I thought no, But when he was interviewed, oh, he
has said, yes, he has said that was my biggest fear,
and that's why I watched that video because I was
so scared of that happening. Yeah, Well, if you're so
scared of something happening. Then in your brain. I can
tell you that your brain is going to be that's
going to be You're going to be pretty vigilant, right
of course, and that's not going to probably happen to you.
So I do believe that he watched that video. Okay.
Also I think there there's a thing that he said
where he was a woman was saying, but you're married
and you have a kid, like, don't you have a conscience,
And he goes no, He basically admitted that he has
no conscience. He doesn't feel guilt, guilt, any guilt. Okay.
So there's that, and then there's the fact there there's
the fact that he in an interview with the police,
the first thing that he says to his wife is
he's like, I didn't do this on purpose. And the
detectives pointed this out. Why if you accident, okay, you
leave your kid in the car and your child dies,
why would you say I didn't do it on purpose
unless you fucking did it on purpose? How would that
enter into your brain to go, I just want you
to know, I didn't do this on purpose. Now, why
would you say that unless you were Unless there.
Speaker 1: Was something say that would Adam say that what anybody
can't imagine.
Speaker 4: If John goes that I didn't do it on purpose,
and the police weren't saying at that point, you can't
like you could argue, oh, well, he was saying that
because the police were implying he did do it on purpose.
But they weren't. They were asking questions. No, not at
that point. They were not at They were not going like,
you did this on purpose, right, They were just gathering
information and they were saying like that he was responsible
for his son's death. They were never saying you did
it on purpose because they didn't think that at that point.
I mean, they were like, look, you have a responsibility.
You did leave your kid in the car, so we
need to figure out what happened. And so he said that.
Then he also said to the police at one point
early on, he said, uh, well, they said, well, you
know you left the kid in the car, and he goes, well,
there was no malicious intent. Well, why would you use
the phrase malicious intent unless you've been looking up information
about what the difference is, Like he knew way too
much about the laws regarding leaving your kid in the car.
And then there's just his whole personality was so narcissistic
that I really believe that he was that cut off
from like, he doesn't have empathy, he doesn't have a
sense of right and wrong, and I think that he
was all about I think he thought and based on
the evidence too, I think he thought that he would
actually the benefit of that happening would be that he'd
have more women to have sex with him, because it
would be like, oh my god, you poor thing, Like
he'd be get so much attention for the fact that
he lost his child in this tragedy and oh my god,
he was so fake with the crying, was really really fake,
I mean. And then there's the idea that he was
in the car and he claims he didn't smell anything,
and so they tried to take the defense tried to
say that the detectives misspoke and said that you could
smell They would have been able to smell like a
rotting body in a car. But and the defense said
that their experts said, no, it's very possible that you
wouldn't smell that, right, not that, but you would smell
something and this is what they said, you would smell
the kit pee and poop hmmm m and sweat. You
would definitely there would be a big odor that was
not no odor, you would smell something. So he claims
that he got in the car and was driving and
then all of a sudden he noticed his kid in
the back and then he pulled over. No, that was
so planned.
Speaker 1: So what about that one part where he went during
his lunch hour and got like light bulbs or some
batteries and okay, so I think so a lot of
people claim that like, oh no, he could have not noticed.
But I think what he was doing is he was
going to if Cooper was dead, then that's when he
was going to quote discover the body and then he
could be like.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he died. But either there was nobody around,
they weren't nobody stopped to see what was going on,
so he figured that was a bad time.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Like for whatever reason, I think that was part of
the plan. Though. It was like, Okay, here's where I'm
gonna discover discover him.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go on my lunch hour by what
was it, light bulbs, batteries or something. Yeah, bad in
the car opens the door, tosses it into the car,
but because nobody else was around, didn't he go.
Speaker 4: There was something? Yeah, but I think his friends had
walked ahead of him, like I think it would have been.
I think in that moment he was like, it's not
the right time, or maybe Cooper hadn't died yet, Oh Jesus,
I don't know, But I think that that doesn't like
they were trying to say that exonerates him, like he
didn't notice his son in the car. He just threw
the light bulbs in and was like looking up and
didn't notice the car seat, because the prosecution was saying
he saw his son at that point. But I think
that that doesn't matter. It doesn't no matter whether he
saw him or not. I think, uh, you know, and
it doesn't. I just think that, like, yes, you can
certainly accidentally leave your child in the car. But there
are so many reasons that I think that he was guilty.
He I feel like he acted so guilty a lot
of the things he said. But the honestly I didn't
do this on purpose is pretty pretty pretty Yeah.
Speaker 1: That is that is that And also the whole going
just so happened that he has in his history of googling,
watching a video of animal dying in a car. Yeah,
and the words he used to the cops and stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. In the emotion was so over the top,
like so like like it wasn't real. It was so fake.
And then he was completely like he could turn it
on and off the crying, which gives me another narciss
total narsis nast. You're about what the reaction of other people.
You're so into what other people think of you. I
don't think he was trying to get away from his wife.
I just think it was more about like trying to
get disconnected. Really. I just think it was just like
I'll just I'll do this and then it's going, I'm
gonna get a lot of attention. I don't think he
liked having the responsibility of a kid. I think it
was just got getting in the way. Well I don't
know why, like a jury agreed with me.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so what did the jury say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, guilty on all accounts, malicious intent, malicious murder, felony, murder, unnellieable.
I feel, what's what the wife about it? What's what
the wife She's like moved on, she's living with a boyfriend.
She's like, she's like, what does she what I don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't have any other kids, so why why protect him?
Speaker 4: And then there's also the thing that, like the defense
tried to say so many times, like why would she
stick up for him unless she really felt that his
character was that of somebody who would never do this?
Like she's like, listen, he was a lot of things,
and he was cheating on me, but he was a
good daddy, loved his kid. Well, how the fuck do
you know you had? He was texting thousands of women.
All he was doing all day long was sexting and
getting together with women for sex, and you had no idea, right,
She's like, well, I mean I knew a little bit,
but yeah, you're right, I didn't know he was living
a total double life. And you had no idea. You
thought he loved you and he didn't. So what's the truth.
I mean, the truth is that you didn't know him
and nobody really knew him. So how do you know
he was a good daddy? You thought he was a
good husband.
Speaker 1: I can't can't imagine being the mother the wife, Like
she seemed kind of strange to me though, like, wow,
how is she keeping it to GAKM? She's not breaking down.
I remember just the preliminary hearings and she's sitting in
court and she's chewing her gum. I don't know if
you were. I saw the video over and over on
Nancy Go. She's just looking off into space, chewing gum
while they're talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's why they thought she might be
in on it. Yeah, they did think she was in
on it first. She and she was so weird at
her kids, like just weird right, like basically going like
it's kind of making it's for the best, like, yeah,
he's in a better place. It's all. Yeah, it's weird.
But I don't know about her. But I don't know
about her, but I do, and I did. Like I said,
I was being very fair because I was kind of
swayed for a while. I was like, yeah, I could
see how he could be innocent. But then just the
culmination of all the evidence, I can totally see how
the Jerry found him guilty. There's just a lot of
little things that add up to I can't see a
way that he didn't do it on purpose. I can't
see a way that he was it was really truly
an accident. There's just too many things wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long has he gone for?
Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, he's up. It's either going to
be life in prison with the possibility of parole, or
life in prison without the possibility. I don't know. How
do you give parole if he if he if it's
felony murder, if he with all the child abuse and
the sexting underage girls like he was found guilty in
all these counts, how do you get out?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that whole parole thing.
I don't get that.
Speaker 4: We need Mark Gergoes to explain the lad.
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