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talk about our sheriff, shall we. Duh man, He's just awesome, Gary,
not my fault. McFadden is the sheriff of Mecklenburg County.
Even the Charlotte Observers Lefty editorial Board acknowledges he's not
fit for the role. Okay, I believe there is enough
evidence for him to be removed from office, but it
would acquire the local judiciary basically to get involved for maladministration.
State law is very clear. I think it's pretty clear
that he is engaged in maladministration of the office. But
he's a Democrat, and the entire county government apparatus is
controlled by Democrats, and so they're not going to try
to remove him, particularly because the issue is about immigration enforcement.
That's that's the ongoing issue with Gary Not my fault McFadden,
and I call him that because every single time any
criticism emerges of the way he is behaving and has
behaved since he first won election in twenty eighteen, he
always responds the same way, which is, it's not his fault,
it's somebody else targeting him. He's exhibiting all of the
DARVO right, the classic it's an acronym deny.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: Anger and then reverse victim and defender RVL. And that's
so he's always doing these types of responses because he
never takes responsibility for anything. Everything is not his fault.
That's why I call him that, not my fault macfadden.
We've now had at least one change to state law.
There is another working its way through the legislature to
try to get this man to actually do his job. Now,
he would disagree with my framing of that, and here's
me not caring about him disagreeing with that. I don't care.
I have read his arguments. Their crap, okay, their crap.
But he thinks that he can just say these things
and then people will leave him alone and they'll stop
talking about it, or they'll focus on something else. He'll
try to distract a way to a different issue. Why
don't you talk about all the good things I do? Right, So,
this latest chapter in the ongoing saga of our illustrious
sheriff not my fault, McFadden. You'll recall a week ago,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement put out a press release we
covered it on the program at the time that had
identified the results of their or described the results of
their latest immigration enforcement actions in Charlotte. They had arrested
twenty four individuals at the beginning of the month of
those twenty four. Ice said that none of the detainers
that they had requested of the sheriff's office, none of
the detainers. In other words, Hey, these guys are in
your jail, let us know we're giving you this detainer request,
hold on to them for forty eight hours, and let
us know if they're about to bail out. And McFadden
never called. McFadden's office never tells Ice that they're about
to walk, that these illegal aliens in the jail are
about to walk. He never makes the call. And he
admits this, by the way, he has admitted, I don't
have to make that phone call. It's not required of me,
so I won't do it. Yet, he doesn't want to
be labeled as uncooperative. He constantly beats this lying drum
of I'm not refusing to cooperate. I am cooperative. I'm
cooperative by the letter of the law and the mechl
Berg policies and procedures and blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. But the detainer request clearly spells this out.
I've gone over this before. It clearly says, give us
a call when they're about to bail out. Here are
the phone numbers. Call us if it's on a weekend.
Here's a number for the weekend emergency line. But McFadden
does not believe he needs to do that, and he
doesn't want to do that. He does not want to
help Ice go to the jail and pick up these
people before they get released, which then of course forces
Ice to go out into the community and try to
find these people that have already come out of the jail.
And so Ice has been calling out McFadden's crap for years,
and he takes umbrage at that, and then he tries
to play a little clever by half with the rules
and such, saying, oh, you need a warren signed by
a judicial official, and he knows full well that that's
an impossibility because these are not criminal charges. Yes, the
illegal aliens in the jail are facing criminal charges for
whatever landed them in the jail, but ICE that goes
through an administrative court. That's an administrative process. And so
you're not getting judges issuing warrants for rest because these
are administrative detainers.
Speaker 1: And so and so he's citing.
Speaker 2: So he's saying, Oh, I'm happy to comply, you just
need to give me, you know, some warrants signed by
a judicial official. Even though the ICE detainer says, please
give us a call, there's nothing that stops him from
making that call except himself. Yet he tells us it's
not his fault. Once again. It's why I call him
not my fault macfadden. He denies culpability whenever, even in
this case when it's clearly his fault, Like he should
just say, I am refusing to cooperate with ICE because
that's what I ran on, because that is what.
Speaker 1: He ran on. It's literally what he ran on.
Speaker 2: I refuse to participate in any kind of immigration enforcement
actions with ICE. This was a promise to the Democrat
voters and they wanted him to not cooperate with ICE.
So that's why he's not cooperating with ICE. It's very simple.
He wants to make it seem like there's a lot
more going on or something, and there isn't. It's really
that simple. So I said, none of the detainers were honored,
and eighteen people are still at large. They can't find them.
They were in the jail, they had detainers, but McFadden
let him go and didn't tell Ice. And now McFadden
will say, well, I had to let him go because
they bailed out. I'm not allowed to hold that, but
you are allowed to hold them under an ICE detainer request.
Speaker 1: You can hold them.
Speaker 2: Oh but if I hold them then that might raise
some you know, potential for litigation. Yet you know where
it hasn't been litigated. Basically all around the country, nowhere
has this has this caused a problem. We have one
hundred counties, all with their sheriff's offices running jails that
are cooperating with ICE and their detainer requests, and nobody
has been sued.
Speaker 1: It is a red herring. It is a lie. It
is a lie that he is using that in order
to try to make an argument for why he shouldn't cooperate.
Just own it, Just own it right, just say I
don't want to cooperate. I ran on a platform of
not cooperating, and this is me fulfilling my campaign promise.
And so when ICE put out this statement, apparently news
organization got a hold of some ICE official to go
on camera do an interview. And I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who the official is because nobody I couldn't find the story.
I went looking forward for a while this morning. I
couldn't find who this person is, probably because they keep
them hidden on the website so as to limit the
harassment of these officials. And McFadden doesn't provide a link
to the story, doesn't name the official. He just cites
the ICE roo Atlantic Office chief of staff. There is
no Atlantic office, such a thing doesn't exist. There is
an Atlanta office, which I assume is what he meant
to put in the press release, which, by the way,
this press release. I have never seen a press release
from an elected official like this before.
Speaker 1: In my life ever.
Speaker 2: And I have read probably thousands, maybe even tens of
thousands of press releases. I've seen them come across the
email and whatnot. I've never seen one like this. All right,
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press releases and even writing a few myself, I have
never seen a press release that looks like the one
I got from the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's office. Right, first off,
no date, there's no date on it. This is a
statement from the sheriff. But that's not the big deal.
The big deal is the top one third of the
press release is mcfatten himself. The guy puts his own
picture on the press release at the top, like a
big graphic that takes except the top third of the page.
Mecklenberg County Sheriff Gary L. McFadden working to influence change
by being dot dot dot quote the difference, working to
influence change by being the difference. So he's a little
slogan there, and then he's got his picture of him
in his dress green like the blazer right with the
star on it and the stars on the shoulder and
all that, and he's standing there like kind of half
turned looking at the camera.
Speaker 1: Like this is a man, this is a narcissist.
Speaker 2: This is a man that is consumed with a love
of self, that you would put your own picture like
this on a press release, like they had to make
this graphic. You realize that somebody they had to commission
this graphic to be made, He had to direct the
comms team to make this graphic. Anyway, I've never seen
somebody so full of themselves that they put their picture
like this in this size and scale on the top
of a press release. It's just a statement. Most statements,
and I've gotten plenty of statements from the Sheriff's office before,
and all it is is just a statement. It's just
like a paragraph, a couple of sentences. Here's a response,
here's the statement. That's all you need. You don't need
all of this anyway, It's just this is one of
those things I look at like you've got to be
kidding me. Robert, Welcome to the program. Hello Robert, Robert. Yes, sir,
I can hear you now, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: I want to say I appreciate what you're saying, but
I think it's critical on us to get out and
vote in the primary. That election will be decided in
the primary, not the general election. And more than eighty
percent of the people who listen to this show who
call in will not vote in that technitely.
Speaker 1: Well, because they're not registered Democrats.
Speaker 3: If you're not a Democrat, if you're a Republican, change
your registration to independent and choose Democrat in that primary. Yes,
and we as a community need to recruit someone other
than the self absorbed idiot that we have. Now we have.
Speaker 2: There was a very good There was a very good
alternative four years ago almost with Gina Hicks and the
woman who ran the jail, and then McFadden took office
and fired her immediately. And now I think she's been
running the Gaston County jail and she ran against McFadden
to be sheriff and she lost in that Democrat primary, which,
not to toot my own horn, but I did vote
in that primary. I am unaffiliated, registered on affiliated, so
I went and voted in that primary for that only reason.
That was the only reason I voted in the Democrat
primary was to vote against McFadden.
Speaker 3: And I appreciate that part of her problem was she
had an opponent. Yeah, you split the vote against him,
and that hurt her. But if there is a qualified
candidate out there, we can change. I don't know that
we can. I mean, this is the statistics are stacked
against us, you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2: You're going to need Democrats to boot this guy out.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Democrats have to police themselves, and I don't think that
they are going to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can or if they have
an interest in it, because again, this guy ran on
a platform promising to not cooperate with Ice, and that's
why he won.
Speaker 3: That's right. He is a slick con man. But you know,
there's if we and I appreciate what you're doing, but
if we can continue to get the word out, maybe
we say and identified as what it is. Mecklenburg County
is a sanctuary county, and it's a sanctuary county because
of him. It's a sanctuary county because of a good
number of judges and frankly, Spencer mary Weather. There's no better.
The police are doing their job. The politicians haven't acted
their own legislation. They don't like what we've done as
a as a majority, and so what they've done is
they said, okay, we'll just we'll enforce our own laws
and we let them. You're right, the demographics are difficult.
I am hoping that the guy who is Sheriff McFadden's
assistant is just chief of staff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Canty against him.
Speaker 3: He sounds like a qualified, intelligent leader. Look, I will
make a contribution if he would run. I won't be
the first to make a substantial Well.
Speaker 2: You never know, with all the problems that that Act
Blue organization has been having, you may have already donated
to several campaigns. You don't even know it, Robert, so Hey,
I appreciate the call. So I got to run, thanks,
all right, all right, take care, yes, sir, Yeah, Kevin
Canty was the chief deputy. And the guy's got you know,
tons and tons of law enforcement experience at the state
level as well, so he may be actually able to
raise a whole bunch of money if he were to
challenge McFadden.
Speaker 1: We'll see, all right.
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it comes to the voting in the Democrat primaries, if
you are unaffiliated, you get to choose a ballot Democrat
or Republican or Libertarian or Green or Constitution if they
have primaries, and if you live in an area where
you've got competing candidates in your primary. And two years
ago when McFadden was up for reelection or sorry, yeah, yeah,
twenty twenty two, so three years ago would have been
his first reelection twenty twenty two. And I didn't have
anybody to vote for in a Republican primary in twenty
twenty two because of where I live, and so I
had there were a bunch of different Democrats running in primaries.
I could vote in those, but you know, my districts
were pretty well set, and so I didn't have anybody
to choose from. But also, this was a race I
wanted to vote in, so that's what I did.
Speaker 1: But yes too.
Speaker 2: At Patriot Girl who says the problem with changing your
voter registration to vote in the Democrat primary for sheriff
is you won't be able to vote in the Republican
primary for anybody. You can't choose race by race, it's
one or the other, either Democrat or Republican across the board. Right, Well, yes,
if you are registered unaffiliated, I walk in and they
ask me which ballot do I want, and I can
actually ask for an unaffiliated ballot. I mean, that would
be silly because you very rarely have a primary of
unaffiliated candidates. I don't even know if there's ever been one,
but not in anywhere I've ever voted. But yeah, you
walk in there and you say I'd like a Republican
ballot or a Democrat ballot, you have to pick one
of the party's ballots. Yes, how that works. So as
an affiliated I get to choose. If I'm a registered Democrat,
I only get the Democrat ballot. If I'm a registered Republican,
I only get the Republican ballot. I'm not allowed to
cross over and vote in the other Parti's primary. I
have to be unaffiliated to do that. So that's why
I'm unaffiliated. I like to vote in whatever guess Like again,
I have lived in districts here in Charlotte and up
in Asheville, and it's been completely controlled by Democrats. So
if I were a registered Republican, I would have no
primary to vote in ever, so unless it's like a
presidential race, so I prefer the options. So after ICE
puts out this statement about the arrests that it made
and how McFadden had these people in the jail, he
did not call ICE and instead these people walked and
so now they're still trying to find eighteen individuals. McFadden
responds to a news story and puts out this statement
with his big picture on the top third of the
press release. Here's what it says, in response to a
recent local news report featuring the ICE ro Atlantic Office. Again,
that's Atlanta, not Atlantic. But they wrote in this press
release Atlantic, and it wasn't a mistake just that one time.
They did it repeatedly. So er Atlantic Office chief of
Staff discussing my alleged lack of cooperation with their detainer requests.
I want to clarify that this portrayal is both deceptive
and harmful to our community's safety. How would that be
harmful to the community safety? Even if ICE was lying?
Why is that harmful to the community safety? Is this
like I am the science, like I am the safety?
Speaker 1: Is that the idea?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: As I watched this in the interview, it became clear
once again that ICE relies on misleading language to suggest
I do not follow or prioritize public safety. You do
not follow public safe? I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1: Did you write?
Speaker 2: I think he wrote this himself. That would explain why
his pictures on the top. Furthermore, the chief of staff
mentioned in the report that a criminal warrant is not
needed since these undocumented immigrants have already broken the law
by staying in the country illegally and committing serious crimes.
A criminal warrant is very much needed, as a detainer
is simply a piece of paper. Well they all are, then, Sheriff.
Every single piece of paper signed by a judge is
just a piece of paper. Then just a piece of
paper signed by an ICE agent requesting we hold somebody
in custody. It's not a legal document signed by a judge.
See there again, that's what he's trying trying to that.
That's the fast when he's trying to pull on you.
He's somehow requiring something that is not in the law.
And he knows this, but he thinks you don't. So
he's like, just go to a judge, Just go to
a judge. Yeah, you can't go to a judge. These
are administrative proceedings. And so they're saying, because here's what
happens when they pick up somebody from ICE, when I
or an illegal alien, when ICE picks them up, as
I saw occur out in front of my house a
couple of weeks ago, literally right in front of me,
and they came. The guy tried to evade them. They
rammed his car he almost hit a house, not mine,
but he almost hit the two houses down, almost ran
into their house, and then he jumps. He starts running
through the neighborhood. They track him down, they catch him,
they bring him, They bring him back to the car,
throw him in the car and take them, take them
away over to Tyvola Road. They don't bring him to
the Mecklimer County jail. They're putting him on a plane
back to his home country. That's what's happening there. They're
processing him for removal because it's administrative, and they targeted
him because he had some.
Speaker 1: Criminal offenses.
Speaker 2: That's how they learned about him, was because he ended
up in the jail system. That's how that happens. And
so rather than putting him back out onto the street
where he's running around, evading police, almost crashing into homes,
they would very much prefer to take him into custody
and hip him out when he's in the jail where
he can't run. That's what Ice is asking, and McFadden
is refusing, and he's bristling at the notion, at the
mere suggestion that he's not cooperating. My alleged lack of cooperation.
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Speaker 1: All right, So, Gary McFadden, not my fault.
Speaker 2: McFadden, Sheriff of Mecklberg County, does not like it when
ICE says that he's not cooperating with them. He doesn't
like it when news organizations say that he's not cooperating
with ICE, even though he's not cooperating with ICE, and
he ran his original platform in twenty eighteen was a
promise not to cooperate with ICE. But even now, even now,
here's this. Here's the statement from McFadden after last week
story from ICE. Quote by now, ICE should be aware
We do not honor civil detainers because they are not
signed by a judge. Very clear, they are not honoring
the detainers. ICE is asking you to honor the detainer.
They're asking you to cooperate, and the detainer simply says,
give us a call before you release these people. When
a judge, here's their criminal charge, sets a bail, I'm
just kidding. They don't do that anymore in that Climber County.
Oh that's a good deal. Good times they used to
set bail. They did back in the day. They would
set bail. So if they're about to get released from
the jail, ICE is asking for a heads up and
to hold that person for forty eight hours, and McFadden refuses.
And so the state has come in last session with
House Built ten. This session they've got another bill, House
Built three eighteen. Keep.
Speaker 1: The legislators keep.
Speaker 2: Trying to force this man into cooperating with ICE, and
he doesn't want to. But he gets mad when anybody
says that he's not cooperating with ICE, except when he
says it himself.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: I should be aware. We do not honor civil detainers.
Very clear, we do not honor them. We are not
cooperating with your detainer requests? Why does he get so
angry at this idea that he's not cooperating with ICE?
He says the chief of staff from the ICE Atlanta
office who did this interview which prompted him to go
off In like four paragraphs or five paragraphs here in
this press release, he says, the chief of staff failed
to explain the actual legal process involved in transferring individuals
from our custody. This omission misleads the public and takes
advantage of their limited understanding of ICE's detainer and administrative
warrant process, which differs significantly from a criminal warrant.
Speaker 1: Except, I would add.
Speaker 2: In every other county in the state, Gary McFadden has
he's got the unique wisdom and expertise that every other
sheriff in the state of North Carolina. Well, okay, except
for Durham and I think bunkhom County, right, maybe Wake
as well. There's only like four or five of these
quote woke sheriffs that are refusing to cooperate like this.
He is one of them. Every other sheriff understands how
this works. Oh and by the way, Gary, you're not
a lawyer. You're not a lawyer. And in fact, when
you go through as I have done for years since
this guy first came on the scene twenty nineteen, US
Immigration and Customs Enforcement Atlanta Office director John Tucaris told
Spectrum News in twenty nineteen that criminal federal warrants are
only issued in criminal proceedings, not immigration proceedings, which are civil.
When they ask for a criminal arrest warrant to pick
up an individual, it does not exist in immigration proceedings.
That's what macfadden keeps saying, give me a criminal warrant
signed by a judge. We don't honor these detainer requests.
That's what he just said here, right, I just read
the quote. We do not honor civil detainers.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, what this sociopathic narcissist is saying in this thing, Oh,
you're taking advantage of the public's ignorance.
Speaker 1: They don't know the proceedings and all this.
Speaker 2: No, Gary, you are you're doing this. That's what you
are doing because it serves your political interest, your personal
preference that nobody should be deported. Because that's also what
he has said. He said deportation won't solve the immigration crisis.
He is against deportations. So what this guy, this ICE
guy says is they are at what they're really asking for,
Guys like McFadden, what they're really asking for is something
that ICE cannot get, something that there is no requirement
and no judge can issue for immigration purposes. He's demanding
something that doesn't exist, and he thinks you're an idiot. Also,
the legal scholarship on this does not agree with McFadden
when this issue was debated in discuss because you've got
these woke sheriffs that are.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, we can't do it. That's against the law.
We could be we could be sued or something.
Speaker 2: No. Actually, no legal and constitutional experts agree. ICE detainers
are constitutionally permitted. Local police can lawfully honor them, but
they have to be executed voluntarily if there is no
state law requiring the sheriff to cooperate. So if there
is no requirement for the sheriff then he doesn't have
to cooperate, which McFadden is clearly not doing and that's
why the state keeps trying to write these laws to
make him cooperate.
Speaker 1: He is lying.
Speaker 2: Back to his full headshot with the press release attached,
it's evident Ice would prefer the sheriff's office simply handover
undocumented individuals in our custody without legal oversight. That that's
not your job, dude, not your job. It's not it's
not your job. You don't get to say I'm not
going to turn somebody over when a government agency comes
along and says, hey, we have a detainer request on
this person. Let us know when they're getting out. And
you're like, mmm, I'm not calling you, I'm not letting
you know. I'm going to release them back out into
the public. Make you go track them down and maybe
you know, get some agents, law enforcement agents killed in
the process or something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let them go.
Speaker 2: He's trying to hold himself up as the hero here,
like I'm protecting the residents' rights because he doesn't call
them inmates. Similarly, he goes on to say, I suspect
documented family members and friends of undocumented immigrants to grant
them consent to search their homes rather than obtaining a
proper search warrant from a federal magistrate or judge based
on probable cause. We've all what are you even talking
about here? What are you even talking about? This is
not your lane. Dude, you run the jail. You're running
the jail, and somebody got arrested, you could not determine
if they were in the country legally, you are required
to inform ICE now because you didn't even want to
do that, So now you're required to tell ICE. ICE says, oh, hey,
that's somebody with criminal charges.
Speaker 1: We're going to deport them. Hold on to them. We're
going to come pick them up.
Speaker 2: Do us a favor, call us if they bail out.
This has nothing to do with searches of homes and
what ICE is doing in their operations and all of that. See,
he is fighting a different fight, but he's pretending that
this is something hyper localized to just the jail and
a disagreement over policy or something. No, he doesn't want
anybody deported. This is what I taught about last week
when we were talking about the fourth turning. This is
the nullification crisis. That's what's happening right now. Guys like
McFadden are trying to nullify federal law. All right, that'll
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