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And again, thank you so much for your support. Let's

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talk about our sheriff, shall we. Duh man, He's just awesome, Gary,

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not my fault. McFadden is the sheriff of Mecklenburg County.

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Even the Charlotte Observers Lefty editorial Board acknowledges he's not

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fit for the role. Okay, I believe there is enough

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evidence for him to be removed from office, but it

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would acquire the local judiciary basically to get involved for maladministration.

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State law is very clear. I think it's pretty clear

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that he is engaged in maladministration of the office. But

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he's a Democrat, and the entire county government apparatus is

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controlled by Democrats, and so they're not going to try

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to remove him, particularly because the issue is about immigration enforcement.

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That's that's the ongoing issue with Gary Not my fault McFadden,

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and I call him that because every single time any

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criticism emerges of the way he is behaving and has

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behaved since he first won election in twenty eighteen, he

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always responds the same way, which is, it's not his fault,

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it's somebody else targeting him. He's exhibiting all of the

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DARVO right, the classic it's an acronym deny.

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Speaker 1: And then.

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Speaker 2: Anger and then reverse victim and defender RVL. And that's

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so he's always doing these types of responses because he

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never takes responsibility for anything. Everything is not his fault.

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That's why I call him that, not my fault macfadden.

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We've now had at least one change to state law.

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There is another working its way through the legislature to

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try to get this man to actually do his job. Now,

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he would disagree with my framing of that, and here's

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me not caring about him disagreeing with that. I don't care.

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I have read his arguments. Their crap, okay, their crap.

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But he thinks that he can just say these things

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and then people will leave him alone and they'll stop

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talking about it, or they'll focus on something else. He'll

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try to distract a way to a different issue. Why

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don't you talk about all the good things I do? Right, So,

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this latest chapter in the ongoing saga of our illustrious

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sheriff not my fault, McFadden. You'll recall a week ago,

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement put out a press release we

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covered it on the program at the time that had

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identified the results of their or described the results of

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their latest immigration enforcement actions in Charlotte. They had arrested

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twenty four individuals at the beginning of the month of

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those twenty four. Ice said that none of the detainers

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that they had requested of the sheriff's office, none of

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the detainers. In other words, Hey, these guys are in

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your jail, let us know we're giving you this detainer request,

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hold on to them for forty eight hours, and let

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us know if they're about to bail out. And McFadden

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never called. McFadden's office never tells Ice that they're about

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to walk, that these illegal aliens in the jail are

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about to walk. He never makes the call. And he

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admits this, by the way, he has admitted, I don't

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have to make that phone call. It's not required of me,

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so I won't do it. Yet, he doesn't want to

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be labeled as uncooperative. He constantly beats this lying drum

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of I'm not refusing to cooperate. I am cooperative. I'm

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cooperative by the letter of the law and the mechl

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Berg policies and procedures and blah blah blah blah blah

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blah blah. But the detainer request clearly spells this out.

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I've gone over this before. It clearly says, give us

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a call when they're about to bail out. Here are

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the phone numbers. Call us if it's on a weekend.

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Here's a number for the weekend emergency line. But McFadden

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does not believe he needs to do that, and he

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doesn't want to do that. He does not want to

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help Ice go to the jail and pick up these

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people before they get released, which then of course forces

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Ice to go out into the community and try to

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find these people that have already come out of the jail.

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And so Ice has been calling out McFadden's crap for years,

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and he takes umbrage at that, and then he tries

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to play a little clever by half with the rules

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and such, saying, oh, you need a warren signed by

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a judicial official, and he knows full well that that's

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an impossibility because these are not criminal charges. Yes, the

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illegal aliens in the jail are facing criminal charges for

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whatever landed them in the jail, but ICE that goes

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through an administrative court. That's an administrative process. And so

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you're not getting judges issuing warrants for rest because these

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are administrative detainers.

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Speaker 1: And so and so he's citing.

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Speaker 2: So he's saying, Oh, I'm happy to comply, you just

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need to give me, you know, some warrants signed by

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a judicial official. Even though the ICE detainer says, please

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give us a call, there's nothing that stops him from

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making that call except himself. Yet he tells us it's

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not his fault. Once again. It's why I call him

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not my fault macfadden. He denies culpability whenever, even in

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this case when it's clearly his fault, Like he should

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just say, I am refusing to cooperate with ICE because

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that's what I ran on, because that is what.

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Speaker 1: He ran on. It's literally what he ran on.

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Speaker 2: I refuse to participate in any kind of immigration enforcement

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actions with ICE. This was a promise to the Democrat

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voters and they wanted him to not cooperate with ICE.

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So that's why he's not cooperating with ICE. It's very simple.

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He wants to make it seem like there's a lot

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more going on or something, and there isn't. It's really

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that simple. So I said, none of the detainers were honored,

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and eighteen people are still at large. They can't find them.

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They were in the jail, they had detainers, but McFadden

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let him go and didn't tell Ice. And now McFadden

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will say, well, I had to let him go because

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they bailed out. I'm not allowed to hold that, but

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you are allowed to hold them under an ICE detainer request.

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Speaker 1: You can hold them.

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Speaker 2: Oh but if I hold them then that might raise

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some you know, potential for litigation. Yet you know where

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it hasn't been litigated. Basically all around the country, nowhere

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has this has this caused a problem. We have one

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hundred counties, all with their sheriff's offices running jails that

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are cooperating with ICE and their detainer requests, and nobody

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has been sued.

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Speaker 1: It is a red herring. It is a lie. It

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is a lie that he is using that in order

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to try to make an argument for why he shouldn't cooperate.

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Just own it, Just own it right, just say I

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don't want to cooperate. I ran on a platform of

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not cooperating, and this is me fulfilling my campaign promise.

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And so when ICE put out this statement, apparently news

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organization got a hold of some ICE official to go

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on camera do an interview. And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Who the official is because nobody I couldn't find the story.

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I went looking forward for a while this morning. I

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couldn't find who this person is, probably because they keep

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them hidden on the website so as to limit the

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harassment of these officials. And McFadden doesn't provide a link

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to the story, doesn't name the official. He just cites

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the ICE roo Atlantic Office chief of staff. There is

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no Atlantic office, such a thing doesn't exist. There is

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an Atlanta office, which I assume is what he meant

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to put in the press release, which, by the way,

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this press release. I have never seen a press release

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from an elected official like this before.

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Speaker 1: In my life ever.

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Speaker 2: And I have read probably thousands, maybe even tens of

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thousands of press releases. I've seen them come across the

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email and whatnot. I've never seen one like this. All right,

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press releases and even writing a few myself, I have

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never seen a press release that looks like the one

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I got from the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's office. Right, first off,

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no date, there's no date on it. This is a

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statement from the sheriff. But that's not the big deal.

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The big deal is the top one third of the

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press release is mcfatten himself. The guy puts his own

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picture on the press release at the top, like a

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big graphic that takes except the top third of the page.

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Mecklenberg County Sheriff Gary L. McFadden working to influence change

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by being dot dot dot quote the difference, working to

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influence change by being the difference. So he's a little

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slogan there, and then he's got his picture of him

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in his dress green like the blazer right with the

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star on it and the stars on the shoulder and

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all that, and he's standing there like kind of half

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turned looking at the camera.

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Speaker 1: Like this is a man, this is a narcissist.

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Speaker 2: This is a man that is consumed with a love

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of self, that you would put your own picture like

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this on a press release, like they had to make

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this graphic. You realize that somebody they had to commission

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this graphic to be made, He had to direct the

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comms team to make this graphic. Anyway, I've never seen

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somebody so full of themselves that they put their picture

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like this in this size and scale on the top

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of a press release. It's just a statement. Most statements,

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and I've gotten plenty of statements from the Sheriff's office before,

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and all it is is just a statement. It's just

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like a paragraph, a couple of sentences. Here's a response,

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here's the statement. That's all you need. You don't need

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all of this anyway, It's just this is one of

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those things I look at like you've got to be

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kidding me. Robert, Welcome to the program. Hello Robert, Robert. Yes, sir,

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I can hear you now, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 3: I want to say I appreciate what you're saying, but

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I think it's critical on us to get out and

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vote in the primary. That election will be decided in

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the primary, not the general election. And more than eighty

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percent of the people who listen to this show who

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call in will not vote in that technitely.

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Speaker 1: Well, because they're not registered Democrats.

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Speaker 3: If you're not a Democrat, if you're a Republican, change

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your registration to independent and choose Democrat in that primary. Yes,

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and we as a community need to recruit someone other

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than the self absorbed idiot that we have. Now we have.

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Speaker 2: There was a very good There was a very good

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alternative four years ago almost with Gina Hicks and the

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woman who ran the jail, and then McFadden took office

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and fired her immediately. And now I think she's been

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running the Gaston County jail and she ran against McFadden

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to be sheriff and she lost in that Democrat primary, which,

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not to toot my own horn, but I did vote

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in that primary. I am unaffiliated, registered on affiliated, so

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I went and voted in that primary for that only reason.

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That was the only reason I voted in the Democrat

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primary was to vote against McFadden.

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate that part of her problem was she

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had an opponent. Yeah, you split the vote against him,

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and that hurt her. But if there is a qualified

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candidate out there, we can change. I don't know that

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we can. I mean, this is the statistics are stacked

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against us, you know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: You're going to need Democrats to boot this guy out.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Democrats have to police themselves, and I don't think that

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they are going to be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they can or if they have

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an interest in it, because again, this guy ran on

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a platform promising to not cooperate with Ice, and that's

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why he won.

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Speaker 3: That's right. He is a slick con man. But you know,

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there's if we and I appreciate what you're doing, but

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if we can continue to get the word out, maybe

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we say and identified as what it is. Mecklenburg County

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is a sanctuary county, and it's a sanctuary county because

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of him. It's a sanctuary county because of a good

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number of judges and frankly, Spencer mary Weather. There's no better.

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The police are doing their job. The politicians haven't acted

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their own legislation. They don't like what we've done as

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a as a majority, and so what they've done is

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they said, okay, we'll just we'll enforce our own laws

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and we let them. You're right, the demographics are difficult.

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I am hoping that the guy who is Sheriff McFadden's

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assistant is just chief of staff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Canty against him.

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Speaker 3: He sounds like a qualified, intelligent leader. Look, I will

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make a contribution if he would run. I won't be

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the first to make a substantial Well.

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Speaker 2: You never know, with all the problems that that Act

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Blue organization has been having, you may have already donated

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to several campaigns. You don't even know it, Robert, so Hey,

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I appreciate the call. So I got to run, thanks,

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all right, all right, take care, yes, sir, Yeah, Kevin

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Canty was the chief deputy. And the guy's got you know,

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tons and tons of law enforcement experience at the state

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level as well, so he may be actually able to

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raise a whole bunch of money if he were to

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challenge McFadden.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, all right.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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been so impressed with Ground News. It's an app and

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it's a website, and it combines news from around the

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stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. So when

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it comes to the voting in the Democrat primaries, if

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you are unaffiliated, you get to choose a ballot Democrat

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or Republican or Libertarian or Green or Constitution if they

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have primaries, and if you live in an area where

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you've got competing candidates in your primary. And two years

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ago when McFadden was up for reelection or sorry, yeah, yeah,

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twenty twenty two, so three years ago would have been

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his first reelection twenty twenty two. And I didn't have

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anybody to vote for in a Republican primary in twenty

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twenty two because of where I live, and so I

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had there were a bunch of different Democrats running in primaries.

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I could vote in those, but you know, my districts

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were pretty well set, and so I didn't have anybody

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to choose from. But also, this was a race I

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wanted to vote in, so that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: But yes too.

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Speaker 2: At Patriot Girl who says the problem with changing your

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voter registration to vote in the Democrat primary for sheriff

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is you won't be able to vote in the Republican

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primary for anybody. You can't choose race by race, it's

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one or the other, either Democrat or Republican across the board. Right, Well, yes,

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if you are registered unaffiliated, I walk in and they

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ask me which ballot do I want, and I can

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actually ask for an unaffiliated ballot. I mean, that would

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be silly because you very rarely have a primary of

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unaffiliated candidates. I don't even know if there's ever been one,

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but not in anywhere I've ever voted. But yeah, you

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walk in there and you say I'd like a Republican

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ballot or a Democrat ballot, you have to pick one

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of the party's ballots. Yes, how that works. So as

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an affiliated I get to choose. If I'm a registered Democrat,

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I only get the Democrat ballot. If I'm a registered Republican,

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I only get the Republican ballot. I'm not allowed to

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cross over and vote in the other Parti's primary. I

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have to be unaffiliated to do that. So that's why

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I'm unaffiliated. I like to vote in whatever guess Like again,

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I have lived in districts here in Charlotte and up

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in Asheville, and it's been completely controlled by Democrats. So

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if I were a registered Republican, I would have no

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primary to vote in ever, so unless it's like a

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presidential race, so I prefer the options. So after ICE

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puts out this statement about the arrests that it made

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and how McFadden had these people in the jail, he

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did not call ICE and instead these people walked and

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so now they're still trying to find eighteen individuals. McFadden

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responds to a news story and puts out this statement

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with his big picture on the top third of the

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press release. Here's what it says, in response to a

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recent local news report featuring the ICE ro Atlantic Office. Again,

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that's Atlanta, not Atlantic. But they wrote in this press

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release Atlantic, and it wasn't a mistake just that one time.

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They did it repeatedly. So er Atlantic Office chief of

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Staff discussing my alleged lack of cooperation with their detainer requests.

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I want to clarify that this portrayal is both deceptive

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and harmful to our community's safety. How would that be

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harmful to the community safety? Even if ICE was lying?

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Why is that harmful to the community safety? Is this

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like I am the science, like I am the safety?

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Speaker 1: Is that the idea?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: As I watched this in the interview, it became clear

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once again that ICE relies on misleading language to suggest

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I do not follow or prioritize public safety. You do

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not follow public safe? I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Did you write?

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Speaker 2: I think he wrote this himself. That would explain why

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his pictures on the top. Furthermore, the chief of staff

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mentioned in the report that a criminal warrant is not

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needed since these undocumented immigrants have already broken the law

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by staying in the country illegally and committing serious crimes.

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A criminal warrant is very much needed, as a detainer

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is simply a piece of paper. Well they all are, then, Sheriff.

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Every single piece of paper signed by a judge is

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just a piece of paper. Then just a piece of

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paper signed by an ICE agent requesting we hold somebody

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in custody. It's not a legal document signed by a judge.

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See there again, that's what he's trying trying to that.

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That's the fast when he's trying to pull on you.

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He's somehow requiring something that is not in the law.

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And he knows this, but he thinks you don't. So

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he's like, just go to a judge, Just go to

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a judge. Yeah, you can't go to a judge. These

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are administrative proceedings. And so they're saying, because here's what

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happens when they pick up somebody from ICE, when I

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or an illegal alien, when ICE picks them up, as

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I saw occur out in front of my house a

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couple of weeks ago, literally right in front of me,

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and they came. The guy tried to evade them. They

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rammed his car he almost hit a house, not mine,

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but he almost hit the two houses down, almost ran

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into their house, and then he jumps. He starts running

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through the neighborhood. They track him down, they catch him,

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they bring him, They bring him back to the car,

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throw him in the car and take them, take them

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away over to Tyvola Road. They don't bring him to

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the Mecklimer County jail. They're putting him on a plane

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back to his home country. That's what's happening there. They're

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processing him for removal because it's administrative, and they targeted

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him because he had some.

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Speaker 1: Criminal offenses.

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Speaker 2: That's how they learned about him, was because he ended

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up in the jail system. That's how that happens. And

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so rather than putting him back out onto the street

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where he's running around, evading police, almost crashing into homes,

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they would very much prefer to take him into custody

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and hip him out when he's in the jail where

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he can't run. That's what Ice is asking, and McFadden

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is refusing, and he's bristling at the notion, at the

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mere suggestion that he's not cooperating. My alleged lack of cooperation.

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You know who says he doesn't cooperate with ICE McFadden.

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McFadden says this, So on the one hand, he's telling

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you I take Umbridge at the at being labeled as

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you know, uncooperative with ICE. I want to cooperate. I'm

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totally down with cooperation. We should totally cooperate. But also

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Speaker 1: All right, So, Gary McFadden, not my fault.

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Speaker 2: McFadden, Sheriff of Mecklberg County, does not like it when

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ICE says that he's not cooperating with them. He doesn't

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like it when news organizations say that he's not cooperating

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with ICE, even though he's not cooperating with ICE, and

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he ran his original platform in twenty eighteen was a

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promise not to cooperate with ICE. But even now, even now,

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here's this. Here's the statement from McFadden after last week

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story from ICE. Quote by now, ICE should be aware

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We do not honor civil detainers because they are not

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signed by a judge. Very clear, they are not honoring

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the detainers. ICE is asking you to honor the detainer.

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They're asking you to cooperate, and the detainer simply says,

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give us a call before you release these people. When

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a judge, here's their criminal charge, sets a bail, I'm

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just kidding. They don't do that anymore in that Climber County.

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Oh that's a good deal. Good times they used to

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set bail. They did back in the day. They would

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set bail. So if they're about to get released from

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the jail, ICE is asking for a heads up and

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to hold that person for forty eight hours, and McFadden refuses.

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And so the state has come in last session with

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House Built ten. This session they've got another bill, House

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Built three eighteen. Keep.

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Speaker 1: The legislators keep.

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Speaker 2: Trying to force this man into cooperating with ICE, and

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he doesn't want to. But he gets mad when anybody

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says that he's not cooperating with ICE, except when he

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says it himself.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I should be aware. We do not honor civil detainers.

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Very clear, we do not honor them. We are not

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cooperating with your detainer requests? Why does he get so

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angry at this idea that he's not cooperating with ICE?

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He says the chief of staff from the ICE Atlanta

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office who did this interview which prompted him to go

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off In like four paragraphs or five paragraphs here in

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this press release, he says, the chief of staff failed

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to explain the actual legal process involved in transferring individuals

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from our custody. This omission misleads the public and takes

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advantage of their limited understanding of ICE's detainer and administrative

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warrant process, which differs significantly from a criminal warrant.

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Speaker 1: Except, I would add.

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Speaker 2: In every other county in the state, Gary McFadden has

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he's got the unique wisdom and expertise that every other

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sheriff in the state of North Carolina. Well, okay, except

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for Durham and I think bunkhom County, right, maybe Wake

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as well. There's only like four or five of these

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quote woke sheriffs that are refusing to cooperate like this.

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He is one of them. Every other sheriff understands how

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this works. Oh and by the way, Gary, you're not

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a lawyer. You're not a lawyer. And in fact, when

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you go through as I have done for years since

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this guy first came on the scene twenty nineteen, US

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement Atlanta Office director John Tucaris told

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Spectrum News in twenty nineteen that criminal federal warrants are

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only issued in criminal proceedings, not immigration proceedings, which are civil.

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When they ask for a criminal arrest warrant to pick

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up an individual, it does not exist in immigration proceedings.

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That's what macfadden keeps saying, give me a criminal warrant

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signed by a judge. We don't honor these detainer requests.

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That's what he just said here, right, I just read

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the quote. We do not honor civil detainers.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, what this sociopathic narcissist is saying in this thing, Oh,

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you're taking advantage of the public's ignorance.

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Speaker 1: They don't know the proceedings and all this.

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Speaker 2: No, Gary, you are you're doing this. That's what you

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are doing because it serves your political interest, your personal

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preference that nobody should be deported. Because that's also what

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he has said. He said deportation won't solve the immigration crisis.

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He is against deportations. So what this guy, this ICE

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guy says is they are at what they're really asking for,

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Guys like McFadden, what they're really asking for is something

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that ICE cannot get, something that there is no requirement

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and no judge can issue for immigration purposes. He's demanding

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something that doesn't exist, and he thinks you're an idiot. Also,

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the legal scholarship on this does not agree with McFadden

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when this issue was debated in discuss because you've got

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these woke sheriffs that are.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, we can't do it. That's against the law.

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We could be we could be sued or something.

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Speaker 2: No. Actually, no legal and constitutional experts agree. ICE detainers

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are constitutionally permitted. Local police can lawfully honor them, but

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they have to be executed voluntarily if there is no

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state law requiring the sheriff to cooperate. So if there

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is no requirement for the sheriff then he doesn't have

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to cooperate, which McFadden is clearly not doing and that's

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why the state keeps trying to write these laws to

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make him cooperate.

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Speaker 1: He is lying.

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Speaker 2: Back to his full headshot with the press release attached,

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it's evident Ice would prefer the sheriff's office simply handover

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undocumented individuals in our custody without legal oversight. That that's

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not your job, dude, not your job. It's not it's

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not your job. You don't get to say I'm not

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going to turn somebody over when a government agency comes

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along and says, hey, we have a detainer request on

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this person. Let us know when they're getting out. And

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you're like, mmm, I'm not calling you, I'm not letting

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you know. I'm going to release them back out into

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the public. Make you go track them down and maybe

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you know, get some agents, law enforcement agents killed in

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the process or something.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let them go.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to hold himself up as the hero here,

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like I'm protecting the residents' rights because he doesn't call

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them inmates. Similarly, he goes on to say, I suspect

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documented family members and friends of undocumented immigrants to grant

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them consent to search their homes rather than obtaining a

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proper search warrant from a federal magistrate or judge based

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on probable cause. We've all what are you even talking

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about here? What are you even talking about? This is

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not your lane. Dude, you run the jail. You're running

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the jail, and somebody got arrested, you could not determine

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if they were in the country legally, you are required

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to inform ICE now because you didn't even want to

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do that, So now you're required to tell ICE. ICE says, oh, hey,

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that's somebody with criminal charges.

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Speaker 1: We're going to deport them. Hold on to them. We're

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going to come pick them up.

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Speaker 2: Do us a favor, call us if they bail out.

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This has nothing to do with searches of homes and

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what ICE is doing in their operations and all of that. See,

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he is fighting a different fight, but he's pretending that

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this is something hyper localized to just the jail and

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a disagreement over policy or something. No, he doesn't want

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anybody deported. This is what I taught about last week

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when we were talking about the fourth turning. This is

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the nullification crisis. That's what's happening right now. Guys like

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McFadden are trying to nullify federal law. All right, that'll

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do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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