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<v Speaker 1>Last episode, we began the story of the Sexton family cult,

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<v Speaker 1>so we recommend you check that out first because now

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<v Speaker 1>we are covering the remainder of the case in part two. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim.

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<v Speaker 1>A true crime podcasting. The following material intended for a

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<v Speaker 1>mature audience. Listener discretion is advised. You ready for part two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what happened in part one? Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say you do for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean it was a fucked up story

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<v Speaker 2>to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>That, touche you can. You may also remember that it

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<v Speaker 1>was requested over on Patreon. We did a little poll

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<v Speaker 1>for the last couple episodes on Hey, let's get some

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<v Speaker 1>case recommendations, some suggestions, and this one was brought up

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<v Speaker 1>in that list. And speaking of Patreon, we have some

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<v Speaker 1>new patrons to thank who signed up and they have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to go recommend cases as well over there,

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to Erica Bone, Minnie Hatanan, Vicky Elder,

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Warren and they got to scroll up. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>the remainder of the list. Yes, Megan, you were the

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<v Speaker 1>last one to sign up this week, so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Shout out to you guys for showing that

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<v Speaker 1>support over on page.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, real quick if you're interested, links down below in

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<v Speaker 1>the description so you can sign up too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say they're doing our dirty work, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean it's a win win. They're recommend in

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<v Speaker 2>cases they want us to hear, and then when we

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<v Speaker 2>need a case without having time to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>scroll the.

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<v Speaker 1>Interwebs, go search for one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just go to that list.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a win win, And honestly, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>some wild cases that have been suggested, so I might

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<v Speaker 1>be feeding off that list for a little while here

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<v Speaker 1>to come. But there are also ones I'm wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>cover here on my own little lists that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the back burner. So we'll see. We'll be going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth here. Definitely be covering a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I actually have a giant list of cases

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<v Speaker 2>I want to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be covering one this month, which means

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<v Speaker 1>you you're supposed to be doing next episode technical speak, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to have to just see. Okay, if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like I will make it up to y'all at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Just bear with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means December, Nicole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on my list for this year, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>have a million and one photos to enter.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal if you do not do one for November,

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<v Speaker 1>which you're basically telling us right now you're not doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's I said, basically, I won't be.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, basically, hold on. So here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I want to make a deal

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I give me.

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<v Speaker 1>A mo I'm gonna speak for all of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there right now. I'm assuming you're on the same

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<v Speaker 1>page as me wanting to call to cover one. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to speak for all of us when I

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<v Speaker 1>make this deal. You do such a good job, though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can you stop interrupting me please, because you're not digging

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out of this fucking hole. I'm going to represent

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<v Speaker 1>everyone and making this bargain here. You will get off

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<v Speaker 1>the hook for doing a November case as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you do a Christmas case for whatever day falls closest

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<v Speaker 1>to Christmas. It's got to be a Christmas story. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a good deep dive and it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be close to Christmas that you come up with

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<v Speaker 1>that episode, the closest one, whatever date it falls on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how's that for a deal?

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that mean that I need to do

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<v Speaker 2>two in December then? Because I got to do one

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in December and a Christmas e one?

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is it. Oh, it's got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas one. You are going to be the Christmas episode,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, going forward, I do definitely want to do one

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<v Speaker 2>a month. That is like my goal for twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a pretty small goal. I should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do this fair enough, fair enough, So okay, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar, that means you have to come out with

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<v Speaker 1>an episode on the twenty fourth Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see what you're saying there. Okay, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Christmas. I mean that's kind of a bummer though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the story's got to be Christmas themed, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I have gotten some of those before, like John Benet Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure was it just like was around Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>that it happened, and there's been another one.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you do that again, and it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have to figure out one then that's Christmas Eve. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take that deal. That's not too bad. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking I was going to be making a deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the devil there.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, it's just there we go. That's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do not get off the hook on this one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there's no way I can again.

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<v Speaker 1>Shake on it. Shake on it right now. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>need like sound effects. Okay, hold on, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>get him up to Mike or something. Let's hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, there we go. Deal deal. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>shook on it and drinking on it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, here cheers with my glass of water. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we've been rambling here. Let's get on to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the last episode we discussed the sex and

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<v Speaker 1>Family cult. Eddie Sexton was the father of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and to sum it up, we don't like Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a deuce canoe. He is a mean individual. He

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<v Speaker 1>abuses his family both mentally and physically. He controls everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and there every move. His family lives in constant fear

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<v Speaker 1>of him. And when we left off, we're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of touching on the sexual abuse both that he and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife put the children through. Now, his wife May

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<v Speaker 1>was often helping him commit these acts, though as far

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<v Speaker 1>as we areware, she never committed them herself. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>years of marriage to a monster at this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that the relationship to this monster finally turned

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<v Speaker 1>her kind soul over to his rotten side. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of where we left off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do remember all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, now, the oldest daughter of Eddie and May

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<v Speaker 1>was actually named after her mother, because her first name

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<v Speaker 1>was actually Estella May. She just goes by May, so

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<v Speaker 1>she was actually named after May, though everyone just called

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<v Speaker 1>her Pixie. Now, Pixie was definitely Eddie's favorite child, and

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<v Speaker 1>because of the favoritism, he treated her a little bit differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course because of that, she was more loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to him as well, and she'd often tell on the

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<v Speaker 1>other children if they did anything wrong. So she would

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<v Speaker 1>often kind of go running to him and be that

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I remember too you saying about them

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<v Speaker 2>in school. Yeah, they were given money to phone, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all lined up in the morning, given a quarter each,

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<v Speaker 1>and you make a phone call if you see something.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Pixie was kind of playing the part of

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie's informant, at least more than the other children were.

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<v Speaker 1>She was kind of like the eyes and ears when

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't around. But by the time Pixie was seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>she and her father were sleeping together on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>But for Pixie it wasn't abuse. See, Pixie was in

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<v Speaker 1>love with her father. Now, obviously there is abuse taking place,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was obviously manipulated into this incestual relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>she more so thought she was in love with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but more than likely there was a serious case of

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<v Speaker 1>Stockholm syndrome gripping her and making her really believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so my head didn't go to where I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to. I just thought they were just

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<v Speaker 2>like sleeping in the same bed kind of like, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they were they thought, oh, yeah, that is that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, because last last episode we kind of left

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<v Speaker 1>off with that sexual abuse kind of picking up there

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<v Speaker 1>a bit still, dang, Okay, Now the family is messed

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<v Speaker 1>up as their lives were did experience some moments of joy,

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<v Speaker 1>though occasionally, for example, the family would cut loose in

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<v Speaker 1>the evenings and the family would have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a family dance night in the living room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a good old fashioned so cop just just happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like that. That's like real cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>That is about the only cool thing I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard in the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is. However, during one of these evenings, when

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was feeling good, Eddie took the opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement to the family. Eddie was going to marry

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<v Speaker 1>his oldest daughter, Pixie.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of fucked the mood that evening, and everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>shocked as Pixie then suddenly emerged from another room wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding veil.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like it was happening that night.

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<v Speaker 1>It was happening right then and there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right in front of his family, right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his very confused wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she wasn't a part of this as far as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like it wasn't like it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>surprise to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, I think so. Yes, Eddie right in front of

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<v Speaker 1>them all, performed a mock wedding ceremony and Mary, his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter right there in the living room. Though, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like a legal wedding, legally binding, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>to them, it was all the same. Now, this reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only time he would go on to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>as he would apparently marry a few of his other

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<v Speaker 1>daughters as well. But not long after the first ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>with Pixie, it was revealed that she was now pregnant. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was during her junior year of high school, which

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<v Speaker 1>would put around the age of sixteen seventeen, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, so she wasn't even done at school correct Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you recall, Eddie had absolute control over his family, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Pixie wasn't allowed to date, wasn't allowed to speak to boys,

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<v Speaker 1>or even leave the house on supervised So her pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>shocked classmates quite a bit, who were aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>strict control of this family dynamic that was going on. So,

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<v Speaker 1>needless to say, there was a lot of questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>to battle the incoming questions that everyone had, Eddie concocted

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a story claiming that the baby's father

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<v Speaker 1>was a military man who had briefly been in town

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, left again. While it was something

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<v Speaker 1>the public could buy, the sext and children themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>the family. Within the walls of the home, they knew

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<v Speaker 2>That is just so mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. So, in nineteen eighty nine, Pixie gave birth

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<v Speaker 1>following year, during her senior high school year, Pixie became

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<v Speaker 2>And you said nineteen eighty nine, correct, Okay, that is

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while ago. But I feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while ago because I was like one years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's nearly forty years ago, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he was shocked for a moment there.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's not that long ago, but I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking, we're encroaching on half a century.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still, I feel like nineteen hundred or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this should be happening in like nineteen fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty, Okay, not the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well technically it's the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>But during this time with the second pregnancy, Eddie just

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<v Speaker 1>named Shasta. Now the next part may be rough for

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<v Speaker 1>some to hear, so trigger warning regarding babies. You might

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned with the weddings, Pixie wasn't the only one,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was too with pregnancies. Sherry, one of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen as well. This time, though Eddie panicked a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>Pixie already had two kids with him, so another pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>risked exposing his secrets. Suspicions were growing in the community

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<v Speaker 1>about how Pixie became pregnant and had these two children,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Sherry's pregnancy would draw even more serious scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 1>So to avoid all the hassle, Eddie ordered his James

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<v Speaker 1>to kick Sherry in the stomach, and James did as

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<v Speaker 1>he was told, and Sherry lost the baby the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Maybe he just shouldn't have sex with his

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, because so much can go wrong with.

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<v Speaker 1>That too, you betcha, But no he yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue talking about that. It's a rough talk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Sherry would become pregnant again shortly after, and

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<v Speaker 1>for unknown reasons, Eddie decided to allow her to keep

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<v Speaker 1>baby boy she named Christopher.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this is just such bullshit listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this right now, you good, I don't know, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>like pissed off right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, understandable. That's a fucked up thing to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this is just so fucked Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we're we're just getting rolling in this here,

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<v Speaker 1>so right on, we're on part two and we're like

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<v Speaker 1>just getting rolling, so trust me. Yeah. So all three

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<v Speaker 1>of these kids that Eddie had birth with his own

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<v Speaker 1>children down, Shasta and Christopher lived under the same roof

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<v Speaker 1>as the rest of the Sexton family. Now, Eddie's paranoia

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of a paranoid to people starting to catch on,

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<v Speaker 1>and he became convinced that the authorities were closing in

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<v Speaker 1>on him for all of his actions thus far with

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<v Speaker 1>his family. So, as any solid minded individual does when

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<v Speaker 1>fearing facing repercussions for their actions in the eyes of

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<v Speaker 1>he believed would be an inevitable war against the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know why, but I not go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's probably because of the lead up I had

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<v Speaker 1>for that being you know, any sound minded individual, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not so clearly he's a little out to lunch. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>With all these stockpiling firearms and everything. He began training

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<v Speaker 1>his children to handle these guns as well, teaching them

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot with precisions or disassembling and reassembling all the

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<v Speaker 1>weapons and prepared for battle. He's essentially turning his household

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<v Speaker 1>into a mini battalion. Yeah, having soldiers at the ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the end of their training, the Sexton children

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<v Speaker 1>have become quite proficient with these firearms.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is not going to end well, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think no, Yeah, no, I'm pretty worried now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for Eddie, though, just preparing for war wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>He decided that he needed to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>try and hide more of the truths, if at all possible,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to avoid this war, right, just hide the truths

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<v Speaker 1>and not have this war happen, which I mean prevention

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<v Speaker 1>is that's a good thing. But like you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>just don't fuck your kids and maybe don't beat them

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<v Speaker 1>and all this other shit too. But for him, he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find another way to cover all those secrets

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<v Speaker 1>of those things he's done. So this is where a

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<v Speaker 1>young man by the name of Joel Good would come in. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel was a quiet and kind young man when he

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<v Speaker 1>became an unwitting participant in Eddie's efforts to conceal the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we look at what happens with him and

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<v Speaker 1>the family, need to kind of take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>who Joel was a little bit now. Joel's life was

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<v Speaker 1>marked by tragedy early on, at just thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>he lost both of his parents within a short time,

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<v Speaker 1>his father to a heart attack and his mother to

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<v Speaker 1>complications from diabetes. From there, he was initially sent to

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<v Speaker 1>live with his grandparents, but eventually moved to Jackson, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to live with his aunt Tessa, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the time he reached high school, Joel's described as quiet, kind,

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<v Speaker 1>good looking young man. Despite some learning difficulties, he had

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<v Speaker 1>a close knit group of friends who appreciated his gentle demeanor.

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<v Speaker 1>It was through one of his friends, a girl named Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>that Joel would meet Pixie Sexton and during their or

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<v Speaker 1>jor high junior year in high school together. Now, while

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't begin dating immediately, the two grew closer over

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<v Speaker 1>time and officially started a relationship their senior year. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when Joel began spending time with Pixie and spending time

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<v Speaker 1>at the Sexton house, he quickly became a well liked

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<v Speaker 1>individual with the entire family, even with Eddie. Okay, yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 1>how easy Eddie. How easily Eddie let Joel into the

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<v Speaker 1>family and of course letting Pixie see him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>was quite shocking to many. In hindsight, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>clear that this was actually part of his plan, because

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<v Speaker 1>up until now there was very tight restrictions on even

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<v Speaker 1>talking to anybody, let alone having a relationship with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone of the opposite sex or a partner or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So it was quite you know, unbelievable to

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<v Speaker 1>see that he was allowing this to actually happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So he very much so had ulterior motives one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 3>because uh yeah, Well, by the time Joe and Pixie

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<v Speaker 3>started dating, Pixie had already given birth to two of

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<v Speaker 3>Eddie's children.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now, Pixie was pregnant with a third gosh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie was beginning to be more and more worried about

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<v Speaker 1>people finding out what was really going on, and he

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<v Speaker 1>needed Pixie to pursue a public relationship with someone aka Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could have this scapegoat, right, so the people

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<v Speaker 1>can look at and be like, oh, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>person you know that's God are pregnant and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's these military men that have come and gone a

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<v Speaker 1>couple times so far, but now this is the explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for the third or whatever. Right. So Pixie began seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Joel under her father's directions and told Joel that the

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<v Speaker 1>baby she was carrying was his. Joel, who of course

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<v Speaker 1>longed for a family of his own, was super excited

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<v Speaker 1>for the news. For him, the prospect of becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>father was an absolute dream come true. I mean, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>he did lose his parents when he was quite young,

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<v Speaker 1>so having that family tie meant all the more to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Okay, so I'm confused. So Eddie told Joel this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Eddie told Pixie to do this with Joel, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Pixie is like, hey, Joel, it's your baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so like it could actually have been his baby

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly yes, but well.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like he actually like they had sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, possibly, as far as I'm aware, it could paternally

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<v Speaker 1>be his child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, but I was just thinking they told him

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<v Speaker 2>this and like the two of them hadn't even done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Well, I think now there is there was

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<v Speaker 1>never a paternity test done on this child, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a little bit later. But there's never a

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<v Speaker 1>paternity test done on this child. So there is no

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<v Speaker 1>concrete evidence or anything I could find that really says

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<v Speaker 1>you're right or I'm right. For all I know, Joel

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<v Speaker 1>very well may not have sex with have had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with Pixie, and maybe she has convinced him otherwise, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he didn't know how that worked quite yet because

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<v Speaker 1>he was young too. I don't know. Okay, I'm assuming that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they have had sex and there is an actual potential

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<v Speaker 1>for this to be his child. But in reality, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Pixie became pregnant and quickly gotten this relationship with Joel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that I think makes the most sense. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like curious how this was going down kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Okay, there's been no paternal test done, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>understand why later. But there's been no paternal test done,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't know for certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, keep it, poor Joel. He now has a family,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so happy about it. But this family is

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<v Speaker 2>just so messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is about the most messed up family you

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<v Speaker 1>can fucking think of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he needed to have run for the hills, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but as far as he knew though, he was

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<v Speaker 1>just he had not only a loving partner by a

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<v Speaker 1>side who's going to start a family with, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she's already got two kids that he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the father for, but he also has Eddie, who

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<v Speaker 1>we know is a very manipulative individual. He's very suave,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, with the public and everything right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing this role onto Joel as well. So now

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<v Speaker 1>Joel also has a father figure himself too. So the

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<v Speaker 1>family he never had and the family that he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to also create. It's to him, it's everything

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<v Speaker 1>he's always wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that just like pulls at the heartstrip really does. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Joel did have some aunts who raised him after his

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<v Speaker 1>situation he was found in, and they were extremely skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of Pixie and the whole Sexton family. However, Joel didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>All he knew is that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a father and remained committed to Pixie. For Joel, this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship was a chance to build the stability he lost

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of his parents. For Eddie and Pixie,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a means of protecting the secrets that could

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<v Speaker 1>have exposed the Sexton's family's horror in the house now. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>Joel moved into the Sexton home and he and Pixie

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<v Speaker 1>became engaged, and Eddie put together a rushed wedding, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to solidify his plan. Oh jeez, so this This wedding

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<v Speaker 1>originally was scheduled for Valentine's Day February fourteenth, nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>but was abruptly moved up two days by Eddie. He

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<v Speaker 1>suggested they marry immediately and insisted Joel not inform his

424
00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.319
<v Speaker 1>family about the change. Joel was eager to please his

425
00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:17.519
<v Speaker 1>future father in law and agreed with no question, So

426
00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.559
<v Speaker 1>in February twelfth, nineteen ninety two, Eddie himself officiated the

427
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:25.640
<v Speaker 1>again mock wedding, ceremony, which was probably not very legal.

428
00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe it was in this case because he

429
00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:32.640
<v Speaker 1>was pretty anxious for legal paperwork, so there might have

430
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>been some formal legalities around this one. But also immediately

431
00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>after this wedding, Joel and Pixie went to the local

432
00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.839
<v Speaker 1>health department to file a certificate of paternity for Don,

433
00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Pixie's first child. Joel legally claimed Don as his daughter,

434
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and the couple planned to do the same for Shasta,

435
00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the second daughter, in another jurisdiction. So they're going to go, like,

436
00:21:55.319 --> 00:22:01.079
<v Speaker 1>get this done immediately now, right right now. The thing is, though,

437
00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Michelle Sexton, one of Eddie's daughters, in late nineteen ninety one,

438
00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>about a year a few months really before the marriage happened,

439
00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.640
<v Speaker 1>began notifying her school counselor about abuse occurring in the home.

440
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Her breaking point when she came when she witnessed Eddie

441
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:24.519
<v Speaker 1>kissing in an inappropriate way one of her sorry her

442
00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.400
<v Speaker 1>two younger sisters, Lana and Kimberly, and she realized that

443
00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they were likely during the same abuse that she had

444
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:36.799
<v Speaker 1>already endured as well being the of course sexual abuse. Initially,

445
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.000
<v Speaker 1>she hesitated due to the DHS's repeated failures in previous

446
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>investigations upon the home, but Michelle only disclosed partial details

447
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>because of this. Now that was only at first, because, however,

448
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.400
<v Speaker 1>over time she revealed enough information to prompt action to

449
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.680
<v Speaker 1>actually occur. So by February of nineteen ninety two, DHS

450
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>officials determined Michelle needed to be removed from the home

451
00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>for her safety. So in the morning of February twelfth,

452
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 1>just two just a few hours before Pixie and Joel's wedding,

453
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>DHS agents arrived with Michelle, collected her belongings, and placed

454
00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>her in foster care. The timing of the visit likely

455
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is why Eddie suddenly moved up the wedding, rushed it

456
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:22.319
<v Speaker 1>all to happen right away.

457
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:24.599
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense because I was kind of like, what's

458
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.240
<v Speaker 2>two days, buddy, Like that just didn't make any sense. Yeah,

459
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>But also so good of her, was it, Michelle?

460
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You said, let me double check, Becau. There's a few

461
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>names going across crosses here. Yes, it was Michelle's everything.

462
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Wow, nikes that I'm just like so proud of her,

463
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Like good for her. That would just not be easy

464
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.759
<v Speaker 2>because she's very brainwashed.

465
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, So big props to her that wouldn't

466
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.279
<v Speaker 1>have been easy for no. But now Eddie was facing

467
00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this scrutiny because DHS was on his ass. They had

468
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 1>already removed one of the children from the home. There's

469
00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions going around on who these kids are,

470
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>in the maternity of them, there's a lot going on,

471
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And in his mind, he could convince everyone that Pixie's

472
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>children were Joel's, all of them. He could even shake

473
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.799
<v Speaker 1>DHS in his own mind. But there's a glaring flaw

474
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>because Joel met Pixie five months after the first daughter

475
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 1>was already born, Okay, so making it impossible for him

476
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to at least be one of the kids, right right, Yeah,

477
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But Eddie was just like, no, I can convince them,

478
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll get them to do the paperwork, legal stuff,

479
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be fine. But regardless. Meanwhile, Michelle though at

480
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>first hesitated to share the full extent of what happened

481
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.079
<v Speaker 1>within the home, Like she started opening up quite a

482
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>bit at school to the counselor, but with DHS and everything,

483
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.839
<v Speaker 1>she was quite hesitant. You know, she'd been brainwashed for

484
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>so long about authorities. It was quite a bit for

485
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>her to tear down that wall.

486
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 2>When I imagined to the school counselor. She had built

487
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.839
<v Speaker 2>up this relationship with them, right, exactly, and these people

488
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.400
<v Speaker 2>DHS she was just meeting exactly. Yeah.

489
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Now, over time, she began to share more and more details,

490
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 1>which included the accounts of sexual and physical abuse inflicted

491
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:16.119
<v Speaker 1>upon herself and her siblings. Thankfully, Michelle's bravery is what

492
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 1>opened the floodgates. Her disclosures were enough for DHS to

493
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 1>finally take action, and on April sixteenth, nineteen ninety two,

494
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 1>they removed all the miners from the Sexton family household.

495
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, including the kid like the grandkids.

496
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 1>They removed all the miners from home.

497
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I have such disturbing question going through my

498
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>head too that no one can answer. But it's like,

499
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 2>with Pixie getting married, does that mean that he can't

500
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>have a relationship with her anymore? I'm assuming right, Well,

501
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 2>who knows, God, I don't know why that's so.

502
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>You're saying Eddie can't have a relationship with Pixie anymore.

503
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a sexual relationship.

504
00:25:58.119 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that would have stopped him.

505
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That's true, that's true.

506
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>No, Eddie's the type of individual who he has control

507
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>over everything. I mean, he's already married with his wife

508
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's having a sexual relationship with his fucking daughter. Yes,

509
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'm pretty sure if he wants to have a

510
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 1>relationship with her daughter, whether she's married or not, he's

511
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>going to.

512
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Yeah, in my head, I was like, Nope, can't happen.

513
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of wish and I wouldn't have brought

514
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>it up.

515
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Sorry. So when they removed these these children from the home,

516
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>DHS did have quite a strategy to it. They picked

517
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 1>up the children from school to avoid alerting Eddie and

518
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>May as best as they could. However, two children remained

519
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>at the home and required DHS workers to actually retreat

520
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>them directly. As more children began sharing their experiences once

521
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>picked up by DHS and corroborating Michelle's accounts, the evidence

522
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 1>against Eddie just kept growing stronger and stronger, despite both

523
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>him and May of course denying it all. So Eddie

524
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was soon ordered to stay off the family property and

525
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.599
<v Speaker 1>have no contact with May or the children during the investigation. Initially,

526
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 1>this arrangement allowed some of the children to return home

527
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to May under the condition that, of course Eddie not

528
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>be involved in their life. Right at this point, the

529
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>full extent of May's complicit I'm sorry, complicity in the

530
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>abuse had not yet really fully been revealed, which is

531
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 1>why DHS kind of allowed this because that hadn't been

532
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>brought up yet, no one really knew, and so yeah,

533
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the only real reason why she was

534
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>allowed to retain custody. But Eddie, however, of course, did

535
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>not listen to what the authority say had said. Sorry,

536
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he did not stay away. He violated the no contact order,

537
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and he frequently visited the house. However, one day Eddie

538
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>arrived at the home and declared he wasn't leaving.

539
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, of course, of course.

540
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he barricaded himself in and the family with

541
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>him into the home and called the Jackson Police Department,

542
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 1>and he warned them that he was not about to surrender.

543
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He threatened with violence, and he stated that if officers

544
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 1>attempt to remove him, he would quote leave a trail

545
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of bodies.

546
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And he's been preparing for this, he has been, and

547
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>they probably don't know that.

548
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Nope, So he's got a bunch of guns in the house,

549
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 1>he's got trained children to stand guard, and yeah, law

550
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>enforcement quickly responded, surrounded the home. You know, they cleared

551
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>off the street where the home was at, and Eddie

552
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>armed his kids, giving them guns and instructing them to

553
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>shoot anyone who got too close to the house. So

554
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the standoff lasted two days to the two days yeah,

555
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>with officers trying to negotiate a peaceful resolution, and on

556
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the second day, a deputy managed to reach Eddie by phone,

557
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 1>and thanks thankfully to this deputy, either common patient negotiation

558
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 1>tactics ultimately succeeded in persuading Eddie to surrender. Eddie exited

559
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the home and was immediately taken into custody, ending the standoff,

560
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>thankfully without any bloodshed.

561
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's impressive. I did not think that was going

562
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 2>to be going that way.

563
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>No me either. Honestly, it could have gone a lot worse,

564
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm surprised Eddie let it go that honestly, even

565
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 1>that soon. If you're a surrender, I thought it would

566
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>have gone longer. Yeah, most likely he was all up

567
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>in his own head because he seems like a weird

568
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>individual up there, So probably he kind of got to

569
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>himself and talked himself down before the officers did. Anyways. Yeah,

570
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's hard to say.

571
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't seem like someone that would let other

572
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>people convince him to do anything.

573
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>No, which is exactly why I think he would have

574
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 1>been the one to convince himself. So it seemed like

575
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the cycle of control and abuse had finally been broken. However,

576
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 1>for reasons that are very difficult to comprehend, Eddie was

577
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 1>allowed to post bond and he was released from custody.

578
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 2>What the shit?

579
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you may not believe it, but this is what

580
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 1>set the stage for even more tragic events soon.

581
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Nope, they had him and he

582
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>was able to get out.

583
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 1>They let him walk.

584
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, that is mind blowing to me.

585
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You pissed?

586
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rightfully, so I am too and shocked. That just

587
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>makes no sense.

588
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. I'm with you right there.

589
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 2>The fuck? Yeah?

590
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 1>The fuck?

591
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay you could? I yeah, I guess, but that just

592
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like flabbergast.

593
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I think we need to get you like a stress

594
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 1>ball or something that amazing. Or maybe we'll get you

595
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>like a pillow with fucking Eddie Sexton's face on it

596
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 1>so you can just punch it whenever you get.

597
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>There will be numerous have to be numerous faces on there,

598
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, like a wicket, Ingram's stress ball. That sounds dope.

599
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd be into that, Toche. So immediately after posting Bond,

600
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Eddie returned to the family home, not surprising despite the

601
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>no contact order. But this time he came with a plan,

602
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 1>and to not bunker down to not you know, wall

603
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>themselves inside, but instead, his plan was to hit the

604
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 1>road to run.

605
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh.

606
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.039
<v Speaker 1>He instructed May and the children to pack what they could,

607
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and the family loaded into the travel trailer and headed

608
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>out of town. Their destination was a secluded campground in

609
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Hillsboro River State Park in Florida, where Eddie hoped to

610
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>avoid detection. Now. Eddie's paranoia continued to escalate only more

611
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and more from here. He repeatedly told his children that

612
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 1>they were at war with authorities. So they're on the

613
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>road driving or whatever it was, and he's just like,

614
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 1>we're at war. We're at war. And he's just instilling

615
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>this fear and even more so separating them from the

616
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>outside world because they're now out in the world. They

617
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have that safety at home, right, And he's like,

618
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>we're at war. You gotta stick with me, Like we

619
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>got to stick together. We can't trust anyone, like so

620
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's this big mind fuck game. Now, by this time,

621
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Pixie had given to her third child, named Skipper Lee

622
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Good love the name Skipper. That's fucking awesome.

623
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>That's actually super cute.

624
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So by this time he was a nine month

625
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 1>old little boy, and Joel Pixie, our children, Don, Shasta,

626
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 1>and Skipper were amongst the family at the campground when

627
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the family fled. So at some point after arriving in Florida,

628
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 1>at this campground, Pixie California, right, Florida.

629
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh was it Florida? Oh? I thought you said California

630
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>at one time.

631
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay if I did, sorry, it's Florida, Florida, Okay, okay.

632
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 1>So while they're in Florida, Pixie decided to tell Joel

633
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the devastating truth about the paternity of Down and Shasta,

634
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the two oldest. Oh man, Yeah, she told him the truth.

635
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 1>And Joel, who had of course devoted himself to Pixie

636
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>and the children, was devastated. He was furious and heartbroken,

637
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and he confronted Eddie at it too. He's like, you're

638
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the fucking father of these two kids. Eddie was not

639
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>about to tolerate anyone challenging his authority or talking back

640
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to him, and he responded with violence, brutally beating Joel.

641
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>What did he expect that Joel just be like, okay, cool, right,

642
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>of course, that any sane person is going to act

643
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>that way. Well, I act, I feel.

644
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he knows that too, right, But he just demands

645
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 1>absolute control over everyone in the vicinity, So if anyone

646
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>challenges him on it, of course he's going to get violent.

647
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>He's gotten violent with everyone else in.

648
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>The household, I guess, But I just don't quite understand

649
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>what why he would feel the need to tell him,

650
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 2>knowing what would happen. You know.

651
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, Eddie didn't tell him. Pixie told him, Oh, sorry.

652
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Shit, god, I am here. Okay, I'm getting mixed up.

653
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>So Pixie told Joel see and then Joel confronted Eddie

654
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and then Eddie was like, you know what, fuck you

655
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and beat him up.

656
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Damn Okay, okay, that's wow.

657
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, Despite all of this, though, Joel chose to stay.

658
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>His love for Pixie and the children kept him tied

659
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>to the family. The family was now living in the

660
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>cramped quarters of this travel trailer and the campground, and

661
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 1>that's where they would stay with Joel. Now soon though,

662
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>baby Skipper began showing signs of being sick shortly after

663
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>arriving there. He developed a cold that lingered and worsened

664
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>over the course of several weeks, leaving him miserable and

665
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>constantly crying. Now remember they are living in a cramped RV,

666
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>right right, and you got a lot of people living

667
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 1>in this RV as well. Pixie and Joel wanted to

668
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>take Skipper to a doctor, but Eddie forbade it. He

669
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>was terrified that any interaction with any outside authorities would

670
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>expose their location and result in an arrest. I mean,

671
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 1>he already had warrants out for both him and May

672
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 1>for skipping court hearings by this point. So as Skipper's

673
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 1>condition deteriorated, his crying became incessant. Eddie grew increasingly frustrated

674
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and paranoid that the baby's cries would attract unwanted attention

675
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>to their hiding spot in this campground. His anger escalated

676
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 1>to threats, warning Pixie that if she didn't silence the baby,

677
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 1>he would dang. Now the details of what happened next

678
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>are a little bit murky, as multiple accounts have been

679
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Speaker 1>provided by those who were present, but what is clear

680
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 1>is that Eddie's frustrations with Skipper's crying reached a boiling point, and,

681
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 1>in a desperate attempt to please her father and silent Skipper,

682
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Pixie placed her hand over the baby's nose and mouth

683
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>until he stopped crying and breathing. Really, yes, her nine

684
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 1>month old son.

685
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, I thought that it was going to be

686
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Eddie then did it?

687
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>No?

688
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know? Okay?

689
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Shit now. Initially, Pixie and Eddie both claimed that Skipper

690
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 1>had died in his sleep from sudden infantel syndrome or SITS.

691
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Joel was unaware of what had actually happened because I'm

692
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>assuming he wasn't there when it occurred, right, but was devastated,

693
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely devastated, and he wanted to take Skipper's body

694
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to the police station to arrange for him to be

695
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 1>transported back to Ohio for a proper burial. Man Eddie, however,

696
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>refused to allow it to happen, and tensions were now

697
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 1>at an all time high. Joe insisted on taking Skipper's

698
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>body in and his persistent demands began to terrify Eddie,

699
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 1>who realized Joel knew way too many things of the

700
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 1>family secrets. At this point, no, Eddie became convinced that

701
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Joel's heartbreak and growing anger would ultimately lead him to

702
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the police, and he saw Joel nothing as

703
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Joel as nothing more than a liability.

704
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh okay, I'm fricking terrified. But I also just

705
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>have to say that, poor baby, it was probably so

706
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 2>simple what it needed, probably right. Yeah, like that is

707
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 2>just that is just disgusting.

708
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's beyond fucked.

709
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

710
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Now, initially Eddie planned to solve this situation by stealing

711
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>another baby and replace Skipper to shut Joel up. Yeah,

712
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>but his plan to go steal another infant didn't work out,

713
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 1>so Eddie went to plan B, which was killed Joel.

714
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Hmm okay, yeah, that's what I kind of had in

715
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 2>mind there.

716
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Eddie, of course, being the coward that he was,

717
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>turned to his sons once again to do the dirty work.

718
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>His son, Willie, who was known as to not have

719
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a very high IQ, was especially vulnerable to Eddie's manipulation.

720
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Eddie of course exploited this, convincing Willie to lure Joel

721
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>into the woods under the guise of going for a

722
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>walk and then kill him. So Willie invited Joel to

723
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>go take a stroll in the woods. Joel, unaware of

724
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen, just you know, sure, let's go,

725
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 1>he agreed, and once they were deep in the forest,

726
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Willie attacked Joel from behind with a rope, intending to

727
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>strangle him. So he wrapped the rope around his neck

728
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and he began to strangle Joel. Now, according to another

729
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 1>one of Eddie's sons, Charles, who witnessed the attack, Willie

730
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was crying the entire time he was choking Joel. He

731
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to kill him, but he felt powerless to

732
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 1>defy his father, and as Willy struggled to carry out

733
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>this grim task, reportedly, Eddie even stood nearby with a

734
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>gun pointed towards Willy's head, yelling finish the job.

735
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, So he's just now like he's making his

736
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 2>his kids murderers.

737
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, either you kill or you be killed.

738
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that, you have no choice.

739
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Joel ultimately succumbed the assault and died there in

740
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the woods. Following the murder, Eddie ordered his sons to

741
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>bury Joel's body, just as they had buried Skippers weeks earlier.

742
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 1>So now after months of evading capture, Eddie's downfall began

743
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 1>when one of the brothers contacted authorities. The brother revealed

744
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that Eddie sorry, yeah, one of Eddie's brothers. Oh, got

745
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 1>to clarify that one, not one of the brothers, one

746
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 1>of Eddie's brothers.

747
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

748
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>So the brother revealed that Eddie had recently visited and

749
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>used his phone to make two long distant phone calls.

750
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Investigators traced the numbers, one of which led them to

751
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Little Manatee River State Park in Florida, where the family

752
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.519
<v Speaker 1>was now staying. So after some intense surveillance on the

753
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>property and waiting for the right moment, on January four, fourteenth,

754
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four, authorities arrested Eddie and may Sexton in

755
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot of the wind Dixie grocery store, ending

756
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a fourteen month long manhunt.

757
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Dang, okay, fourteen months they got away with that, hey.

758
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen mother fucking months.

759
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well keep them in jail this time, please, no

760
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>like bails or nothing.

761
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that that would be the case. Yes, they're

762
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>not bailing. There's no bonds, no bails, no nothing this time.

763
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay. When you were like, well, I was gonna slap you.

764
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just the bearer of the news here, I'm just

765
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 1>telling a story. Well, when questioned, Charles Sexton broke his

766
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.920
<v Speaker 1>silence because of course, the entire family is now being

767
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>interrogated and questioned, right, and Charles revealed the horrifying details

768
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of what actually transpired. He confessed to authorities about the

769
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>death of both Joel and Skipper, and he led investigators

770
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to their burial sites. The body of Joel and Skipper

771
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>were recovered and returned to Ohio, where Joel's grieving family

772
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>could finally provide them with a proper burial. Now, in

773
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a heart wrenching decision, Joe's family chose to bury Skipper

774
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and Joel together in the same casket. A paternity test

775
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>confirmed that Eddie was a biological father of Pixie's first

776
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>two children, Don and Shasta. However, Joel's family opted against

777
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>testing Skipper, choosing instead to honors Joel role Joe's role

778
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 1>as a boy's father. Regardless of what the blood test revealed,

779
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Joel loved and cared for him in a way that

780
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Eddie never could, and in their eyes, just Joel deserved

781
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 1>that title more than anyone else.

782
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh dang that breaks your fucking heart.

783
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 1>So they never got the test done because no matter

784
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>what it said, Skipper was Joel's son.

785
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Dang, that is like actually like just so nice day. Yeah,

786
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 2>what a way to honor someone, right.

787
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, Eddie May and several other family members went to trial. Charles,

788
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>who had cooperated with authorities and helped locate the bodies,

789
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 1>was granted immunity and avoided charges. Other members of the family,

790
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>finally feeling safe from Eddie's control, would actually even testify

791
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 1>against him in court. So in November of nineteen ninety four,

792
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Eddie was sentenced in court to death for his role

793
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 1>in the murders. He was sent to Florida Union Correctional Institution.

794
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Before the trial, a psychiatrist evaluated Eddie and diagnosed him

795
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>as a sadistic sexual psychopath. Eddie appealed his sentence and

796
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>was granted a retrial, but the second trial also ended

797
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in the death penalty.

798
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 2>What a waste of time and stuff.

799
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I know. And for May Sexton. Although not charged with

800
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the murders, May faced eight counts related to the physical

801
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and sexual abuse of her children, including complicity to rape.

802
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>She was sentenced to life in prison and served her

803
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>time in Ohio Reform for women before she died of

804
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>natural causes. In twenty seventeen at the age of seventy,

805
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Pixie Sexton pleaded guilty to manslaughter in death of her

806
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>son Skipper. Reports vary, but she was sentenced between sentenced

807
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to between six and twelve years in prison.

808
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Man, that's kind of sad. That one is hard.

809
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That's hard. It is because she did do it.

810
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And finally Willie Sexton, Willie was the one who

811
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 1>strangled Joel under Eddie's orders. He was sentenced to twenty

812
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>five years in prison. He was released in two thousand

813
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 1>and seven. Seven. During his own incarceration, Willie reportedly came

814
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to understand the extent of Eddie's control over him and

815
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 1>expressed remorse for what he had done.

816
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, because that one, it's literally described though, that he

817
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 2>had a gun pointed at him, right, Yeah, So for

818
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>some ticket, twenty five years seems I know.

819
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>That's that's tough. And maybe there's things that came up

820
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in court that we don't know about because a lot

821
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of times, like there's a lot of private information and

822
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens in court that does not get released

823
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>to public. So maybe there's some things in there that

824
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't know about. Who knows. Maybe the thing about

825
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Eddie holding the gun up to his head is hearsay.

826
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that didn't actually happen. Maybe he just followed his

827
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:23.639
<v Speaker 1>father's orders and that's that.

828
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean that's the same too with Pixie, Like,

829
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>who knows, Eddie could have been right right there, like yeah,

830
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, telling her to do it and stuff too,

831
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>right exactly.

832
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 1>But also on the other hand, it could have been

833
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>even worse. I mean, maybe Eddie had a gun right

834
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>up to Willie's temple too. It's so hard to know,

835
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and what happened in court again, so many things are

836
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>confidential information that will will never really ever be released.

837
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>And there's still i mean, this isn't that long ago

838
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like this, there's still family members. Oh you know a lie,

839
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely, yes, that is just so tough.

840
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, Pixie, Willie, I'm pretty sure most of, if

841
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 1>not all, the children are still alive.

842
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, and then the grandchildren or whatever you want to

843
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>call them exactly.

844
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if anyone has passed away, it's certainly not

845
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of old age. It would have been you know, accidents

846
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>or disease or anything like that. But by all accounts,

847
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>they should be still alive.

848
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

849
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that is the story of the Sexton family

850
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 1>cults and the monster that is Eddie Lee Sexton.

851
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, I'm just shaking my head here. I just it

852
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>is unfathomable to that a person, that someone could be

853
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>like Eddie. Yeah, it's just so it's so hard to understand.

854
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 1>That people like that exist. Yeah, that people like that

855
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>could could actually do those things and not even do them,

856
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>but do them again and again and again, knowing they're

857
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>wrong because you're trying to hide it from authorities and

858
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>continue to do it, and like.

859
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Holy fuck, like the shit that he got away with.

860
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's hard to believe. But it also

861
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>like it makes sense that he got away with so

862
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 2>much too, just you know, the way he.

863
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Was because of controlling his family like that.

864
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

865
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like DHS had visited

866
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>their home a few times, there was investigations. He just

867
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>managed to like, you know, like win them over because

868
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>in the first episode, if you remember, like DHS visited

869
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and he basically started off by showing like his his

870
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>his religious credentials, being like you know, I'm ordained, you know,

871
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a father who's just so overwhelmed with a

872
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>large family.

873
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

874
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 1>And here it's like, no, you're an abusive piece of shit.

875
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. People like that just fascinate me though,

876
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like the least smooth person ever, Like I

877
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>could be in that scenario and have done fuck all,

878
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 2>but I would look guilty as hell.

879
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I think we've talked about this leading yeah.

880
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And I just I just I don't know. I wish

881
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I could have a little bit like of that smoothness,

882
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 2>not that I would use it in this scenario and

883
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 2>all or like for for bad badness or anything badness.

884
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Your smoothness is showing, Nicole.

885
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I just it's just mind bowing

886
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 2>to me that people can be like that, that they

887
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 2>can hide and that oh I just can't even it's yeah,

888
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's unreal. And I would like even like a

889
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>percentage of just that smoothness to live my life. Is

890
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 2>that too much to ask?

891
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Get done?

892
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

893
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wow, Well that was a rant from Nicole today.

894
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>She wants a little bit of smoothness. So we're not

895
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 1>getting chunky peanut butter for a while. We're just getting

896
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 1>straight smooth.

897
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what she wants.

898
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 1>You want some smooth, there's.

899
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Some smooth totella. Let's do Nilla, that's smooth. I almost

900
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 2>showed you this video chocolate milk of Natilla today, Like oh,

901
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>it made me want to tell this so bad. It

902
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.119
<v Speaker 2>was just like a brand new thing in Natilla and

903
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they put this like this spatula thing in there and

904
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 2>like turned it and it just was like it just

905
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 2>made the netilla look so good.

906
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Just like nantella ASMR basically nice.

907
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I almost showed you, but then I knew it

908
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 2>would be like you would have to go get some.

909
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a weakness for nutella like I do chocolate milk,

910
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>though it is nowhere near my weakness for chocolate milk,

911
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it is akin to that weakness.

912
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>We don't have it much at all, No, I can't.

913
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 2>We've hadn't had it for years probably no.

914
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.559
<v Speaker 1>But like I can get sick of Natella, I can't

915
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>get sick of chocolate milk, but I have the same

916
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like craving for it.

917
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Actually that's a lie, because I bought a little thing

918
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>of it within probably the last six months, and I

919
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>was gonna maybe a year, I don't know, but I

920
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>was gonna have some on toasts and stuff, but and

921
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 2>you freaking just ate it all. I got none.

922
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It was delicious. I don't remember this, but I'm sure

923
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it was delicious. Sounds like me, it does. It was

924
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>probably delicious anyway, Okay, okay, we're gonna go probably see

925
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>if we can find Natella on Skip the Dishes or

926
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. In the meantime, thank you guys

927
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>for being here. We appreciate you. Shout out to our

928
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>patrons who of course recommending cases to us. We're gonna

929
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>probably do another case from them for the next episode

930
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and the episode coming up at the end of the

931
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>month for them over on Patreon as well, because they

932
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>get exclusive episodes.

933
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's coming up.

934
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you're in all Access pass, you've got that

935
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>extra episode. And there's a big library that's been built

936
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 1>up up to this point.

937
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yes, So if you ever feel like you

938
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 2>need more of us, hit us up on Papier.

939
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>That's your way, exactly. Although we do have like well,

940
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I think we're up to two hundred and thirty over

941
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirty episodes at this point, just regular show.

942
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>So ding dang, ding dang.

943
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 2>It's impressive indeed. Well yeah, honestly, but we can't. Like

944
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>we've said, we couldn't have done it with any without

945
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you guys.

946
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Think we couldn't, We couldn't. It's us and it's you,

947
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and you guys are what make this show. We just

948
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we just put it out. We're independent. We have no

949
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>one who owns this but us. We do it because, hey,

950
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys support us. You mean the world. So thank

951
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>you very much. You sure do well.

952
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.239
<v Speaker 2>So until next episode when Ben is probably going to

953
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 2>be doing it again, when I will.

954
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Be doing it again.

955
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<v Speaker 2>Until then, stay wicked,
