Speaker 1: Maybe La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, good morning, and
Speaker 1: God bless Happy home day. I'm Dominique de Prima. This
Speaker 1: show is called First Things First, and my first thing
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Speaker 1: you can sneak in a thought or two in the section.
Speaker 1: Apparently we're in a heat wave. Hopefully we're hydrated. Can
Speaker 1: say I did a great job of that yesterday, but
Speaker 1: apparently to today, well, yesterday, today and tomorrow in southern
Speaker 1: California are hot, hot, hot, hot hot. We do have
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: wild election season. I can already tell it's not local,
Speaker 1: but it resonates really in every municipality. The fact that
Speaker 1: even Florida has elected a Democratic socialist, even the state
Speaker 1: of Florida elected a black woman who is a Democratic
Speaker 1: socialist and by the way, Angie Nixon is her name,
Speaker 1: and by the way, she wins against the guy, this guy,
Speaker 1: alex Vinman, who had sixteen times as much campaign money
Speaker 1: as she did. Wow. So you know, hello, Hello Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Earth to the Democratic Party, your party, your constituents, the people,
Speaker 1: We the us, the we, the collective, the greater good,
Speaker 1: remember us. We are moving to the left. Whatever y'all doing,
Speaker 1: it is not cutting it. And I don't hate to
Speaker 1: say I told you so. I love to say I
Speaker 1: told you so because I really feel like, for all
Speaker 1: of the you know, challenges in blind spots and in
Speaker 1: some cases terrible you know platforms or whatever, the energy
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party is in the progressive wing. And
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for more than a decade. That's
Speaker 1: where it is. Stop running from it, stop hiding from it.
Speaker 1: It's an interview with Hakeem Jeffries, I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was on Meet the Press where he was dodging
Speaker 1: and skating around the whole episode of the whole issue
Speaker 1: of Medicare for all and why he's not really for it.
Speaker 1: He's old. We've got to find we have to find
Speaker 1: a solution for this healthcare crisis. But okay, but it's
Speaker 1: not medicare for all. And by solution, I mean solution
Speaker 1: that my campaign donors who are insurance companies will be
Speaker 1: fine with. So I mean, I just say that because
Speaker 1: you know, let's start out with something that makes us smile.
Speaker 1: It makes me smile because I believe that the energy
Speaker 1: of the progressive wing of the party, with the young
Speaker 1: people energy, even though we have you know, you got
Speaker 1: your Bernie Sanders, not only for young people, the young
Speaker 1: people energy, the people of color energy, the women energy,
Speaker 1: is what's not only going to save the party because
Speaker 1: in a sense, that's not really a priority. It's what's
Speaker 1: going for me. It's what's going to save the country.
Speaker 1: How about that? And I say that because we've got
Speaker 1: to be able to take care of people. We can't
Speaker 1: have people dying and sleeping and living on the streets.
Speaker 1: We can't have elders with no health care. We can't
Speaker 1: have a kleptocracy where the very rich are just taking
Speaker 1: money out of the cash register by the handful while
Speaker 1: people are literally starving. And this right here is part
Speaker 1: of the way forward, I think. Anyway, Oh, look, who's
Speaker 1: on my phone. I was hoping he would tap in.
Speaker 1: Even though he's got father papa duties, and he's got
Speaker 1: court duties, and he's got a whole dog on law
Speaker 1: practice to run. He's a more houseman. He is an
Speaker 1: attorney in private practice, personal in law. He's a California native,
Speaker 1: Southern California native. At that it's like spotting a rare
Speaker 1: bird attorney a person. Lynn, Good morning, Good morning, I'm Nate.
Speaker 2: How you doing today.
Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good, doing good, just you know, up a
Speaker 2: little early, happy to be here and discuss whenever we
Speaker 2: get to discuss. And I do have to say something
Speaker 2: because I know you did it with the best of hearts.
Speaker 2: But I am a Hampton man. O.
Speaker 1: Lord, sorry about that. I knew that, Lord, And Howard
Speaker 1: law right and Howard law right. What's the Hampton mascot?
Speaker 2: We know, we all know the pirate, Oh pirates right
Speaker 2: there on the water.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, So it looks like it's going to
Speaker 1: be quite quite a turbulent election season around here around
Speaker 1: not just here, around the whole country. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 1: you know, buckle your seat belts one in all, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this fake poll. There's
Speaker 1: some company that put out a fake poll and it
Speaker 1: showed Mayor Karen Bass leading by a wide margin, and
Speaker 1: then they like two days later said, oh, psych, it
Speaker 1: wasn't really a real poll. We were just trying to
Speaker 1: see something, and now people are trying to put that
Speaker 1: on the mayor. I saw council Member Ramen's team, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of go harping about it, saying, well, they didn't
Speaker 1: vet their own poles. But honestly, I don't think most
Speaker 1: people do. I think when we see a poll, we
Speaker 1: just report the results. You don't go in and you know,
Speaker 1: independently verify that all these people were actually interviewed. No,
Speaker 1: campaigns don't do it, corporations don't do it. Most media
Speaker 1: out lets don't even do it. But it turns out
Speaker 1: this was just something that they thought would be It
Speaker 1: was like what they call a social experiment. I find
Speaker 1: it fishy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds fishy to start with. I mean it
Speaker 2: is a lesson and a reminder that it is important
Speaker 2: to bet any information that you get. But I was
Speaker 2: just at the National Bar Associated some conference and did
Speaker 2: a seminar on AI and man, they can do a
Speaker 2: whole poll like and be fake, but it sounds real.
Speaker 2: He showed us it was like he made a website
Speaker 2: it said like check the boat dot com orce something
Speaker 2: and showed him he could manipulate it from his phone whenever. So, uh,
Speaker 2: that that's something, But it is kind of fishy to
Speaker 2: really put it out there. That means somebody took the
Speaker 2: time to call these outlets, send it to these outlets
Speaker 2: for nobody to vet that. That's uh, that's something. But
Speaker 2: they the point of the seminar is that they have real,
Speaker 2: official sounding names. But we have to remember if we
Speaker 2: have frauds and scammers out there, now, they have AI too,
Speaker 2: and they can do it. Not even saying that this
Speaker 2: was the AI. But it's just wow that this would
Speaker 2: come out just to give the other side momentum bus. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why I think it's fishy. Oh,
Speaker 1: you wanted to see you wanted to see something. But
Speaker 1: of all the race in all the country, you pick
Speaker 1: the black mayor of Los Angeles to do your little
Speaker 1: experiment on. They could have done it on any member
Speaker 1: of Congress, they could have done it on the president. Nope,
Speaker 1: they chose I find it. I you know, the LA
Speaker 1: time says little is known about the firm, Well, why
Speaker 1: somebody needs to do an investigation? I think I find
Speaker 1: it very conveniently fishy. And they're saying, oh, well, it
Speaker 1: casts light on how poles are wrong a lot of
Speaker 1: the time. Well, those can be. A real pole can
Speaker 1: be wrong because they don't they just take a sample
Speaker 1: of people. But a fake pole is something different, and
Speaker 1: we haven't seen much of that. That's pretty unusual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, even though we've seen a lot, You've
Speaker 2: seen a whole lot. Just a straight up fake pole
Speaker 2: is quite unusual to even hear about. But thenn't it
Speaker 2: be be putted on by multiple outlet That is? That
Speaker 2: is something. But yet again there's a lesson and everything.
Speaker 2: The lesson here is that we really need to vet
Speaker 2: and in this day and age, especially in what I
Speaker 2: do as a trial attorney. You know, they used to
Speaker 2: say believe none of which you hear in half of
Speaker 2: what you see. Man, I think that day is over
Speaker 2: a bit. I don't think you could believe anything without
Speaker 2: like the receipts, Like you can't believe any picture without
Speaker 2: the metadatta, Like until you show me what day this
Speaker 2: picture was created. I can't believe it because I can
Speaker 2: take any picture I want, put it inside GBT and
Speaker 2: make it look like something that it really isn't, but
Speaker 2: still look like a bit a real picture. And so
Speaker 2: this is a this is some perilous times we're living in.
Speaker 1: Like I said that, I mean, that's a really good
Speaker 1: point about the AI piece. I hadn't talked about that,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, I guess whether it's a poll
Speaker 1: or a photo or a video or a news report
Speaker 1: that we really have to somehow and most of us
Speaker 1: don't even know how to do it. You can call Miles.
Speaker 1: He can help you figure out whether it's AI or
Speaker 1: whether it's real. I mean, honestly, Ja, sometimes I find myself,
Speaker 1: I've got a scroll in the comments because this doesn't
Speaker 1: look real to me, and somebody's gonna call it out
Speaker 1: that's AI, you know. But that's not a reliable method either.
Speaker 1: I mean, with an article, you can search it, you know,
Speaker 1: with a you know, I guess with a poll, you
Speaker 1: could search at least who the company is, what their
Speaker 1: track record is. But with a photo, how do you
Speaker 1: verify that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough, and you know, at least on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I know they're supposed to have like the a this
Speaker 2: is generated with AI tag on anything that was AI generated,
Speaker 2: But once again, there's no still specific certain way that's
Speaker 2: definitely that'll get you the answers that you seek on
Speaker 2: where it was generated and how it was generated, because ultimately,
Speaker 2: I believe I could create and like an AI picture
Speaker 2: like screenshoted, and I'm not sure that if I did
Speaker 2: all that before it got to Instagram, an Instagram will
Speaker 2: be able to pick up on that. I mean, it's possible.
Speaker 2: It was certainly ways around it.
Speaker 1: Well, there have to be, and I think we'll get
Speaker 1: more sophisticated with time. They're also saying it could be,
Speaker 1: it could have it could actually be a crime if
Speaker 1: they were trying to you know, if it was polymarket
Speaker 1: oriented or calcy oriented where they were trying to take
Speaker 1: or make bets based on this polling, if you want
Speaker 1: to weigh in eight hundred and nine two fifteen eighty,
Speaker 1: we do have a lot to talk about. Attorney Ja
Speaker 1: Person is here and I'm Dominique Diprima and this is
Speaker 1: KBLA talk fifteen to eighty right now. JA Person Lynn
Speaker 1: is with us. He's an attorney and Jay. We've got
Speaker 1: Fred from Crenshaw on the phone. Good morning, Fred, welcome.
Speaker 3: Come on, Sister Dominic. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good. What's on your mind this morning?
Speaker 4: Fred?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to talk about the governess race if
Speaker 3: I can. Okay, go ahead, y'all ask you know, basically
Speaker 3: it's going to be between two people, he Saidsell and Hilton.
Speaker 3: I would prefer but Sarah in there rather than Hilton.
Speaker 3: You know, Hilton is is a Republican. And the thing
Speaker 3: about it is, I haven't heard anything yet of how
Speaker 3: the black community plans to vote for governor.
Speaker 1: As you know, you missed my show, Fred, we did
Speaker 1: a whole show about that. Right now. Sarah is polling
Speaker 1: really strongly among black voters.
Speaker 3: Oh okayles that are not a I uh all right,
Speaker 3: well okay, Well, well that that is a great new
Speaker 3: new news zeus here, because you know, uh, we have
Speaker 3: Americans that have been uh really uh done wrong. As
Speaker 3: I said, you know, we had Rega do magents. So
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that, uh that Sarah is uh
Speaker 3: doing well with the black community. I would encourage all
Speaker 3: all of us to be sure to hit the pole
Speaker 3: nomever third with you black white Latino l g PT
Speaker 3: because we need everybody been there, and I'm glad you
Speaker 3: brought a good point in Florida that I think the
Speaker 3: first time they got their uh black woman. So I
Speaker 3: think we all have to pay attention to that because,
Speaker 3: as you know, Florida is a swing state, and that's
Speaker 3: the state the Democrats won't need the president show election
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Indeed it is, we need it in the midterms too,
Speaker 1: for sure. Thank you, Fred, I appreciate the observation. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: best set. I mean, he was part of the Obama
Speaker 1: administration and then the Biden administration, so you got to
Speaker 1: figure there's that. Plus he has a long, you know,
Speaker 1: track record, He's not an unknown factor, so maybe that
Speaker 1: explains his strong polling among black voters. Also, we don't
Speaker 1: generally love voting for Fox News hosts.
Speaker 2: But your thoughts, Jaye, Yeah, that's this is an interesting
Speaker 2: governor's race too. Like I didn't hear with the Hilton's
Speaker 2: name until I believe he was like on the show
Speaker 2: with Tavis. That was the first time I heard him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like as a human being.
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Ever, okay, yeah, Like I didn't know he existed, and
Speaker 2: then for him to be the Republican nominee. I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna see something here because it's uh, it was
Speaker 2: a time like I remember the two thousand presidential election
Speaker 2: where you go to sleep and gore one and you
Speaker 2: wake up and the Bush one. Yeah, but apparently that
Speaker 2: happened in a California gubernatorial election as well, where people
Speaker 2: went to sleep and Tom Bradley won but woke up
Speaker 2: and I forget who it was, but they they had. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: it was some way way back. But I think maybe
Speaker 2: even before, well certainly before I was a cotton center politics.
Speaker 2: But I will say that, you know, California gets liberal
Speaker 2: up to a certain point, and we're about to see.
Speaker 1: George Duke Magian. It was Duke Magian. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean California is progressive in this along the coasts,
Speaker 1: but that's where all the people are. I know, Hilton,
Speaker 1: you're saying he could surprise us, but right now he's
Speaker 1: getting his butt handed to him in the polls. I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking like sixty to forty percent or something,
Speaker 1: and I know that can change, but I know Tom
Speaker 1: Bradley was never polland like that Bassetto would be the
Speaker 1: first Latino governor, so hopefully that would activate the Latino vote,
Speaker 1: which is unpredictable.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that's that's what America, I mean, California
Speaker 2: is really going to see because that that Latino vote,
Speaker 2: it is unpredictable, and we don't necessarily know that the
Speaker 2: Spanish last name is enough to generate the majority of
Speaker 2: Latino vote. But you know where that vote goes is
Speaker 2: certainly who will win the election.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more than just the last name. He's
Speaker 1: been the Secretary of Health and Human Services. He's you know,
Speaker 1: he's been in politics in California for a very long time,
Speaker 1: so it's you know what I mean, he's a known factor.
Speaker 1: It's not just the name.
Speaker 2: No, I get that, and based on history and how
Speaker 2: things should be, he should win quite easily.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But you're saying, don't take it for granted.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: That's my point in all of it is that we'll,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see the true colors once they find
Speaker 2: these show and shine bright on election day or up
Speaker 2: until election day. But that's something I think we should
Speaker 2: all be on the lookout for because it's not as
Speaker 2: black and white as many would try and make it.
Speaker 1: Right, and as we just spent a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: time talking about the polls are and reliable, even the
Speaker 1: legit ones. This is that was a UC Berkeley, La
Speaker 1: Times pullet sound it found beset I had fifty five
Speaker 1: percent in Hilton at thirty seven, with only seven percent
Speaker 1: of voters undecided. I don't know where the other that
Speaker 1: doesn't add up to one hundred. But maybe they're still
Speaker 1: voting for Antonio Viarragoza even though he didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: or someone else that didn't make the runoff. So right
Speaker 1: now it looks best set up. But I think you're right.
Speaker 1: It would be a mistake to just think, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it, we don't have to vote. No,
Speaker 1: you can mess around and have a an English Fox
Speaker 1: News Trump supporter for governor of California, which would be
Speaker 1: pretty dire actually, and it would not.
Speaker 2: Be the first time we had a year and born
Speaker 2: governor in California.
Speaker 1: Really, who who's the other one?
Speaker 2: Theah, that's right, yes.
Speaker 1: Of course, Honold. I don't even really think of him
Speaker 1: as a governor, even though he was the governor, because.
Speaker 2: He was certainly the governor. Yeah, he was the governor multiples.
Speaker 1: And if you think about it, that was when the
Speaker 1: then community organizer Karen Bass went to the Assembly and
Speaker 1: ended up being the first black woman to lead a
Speaker 1: state house in all of in the whole United States,
Speaker 1: and she had to deal with that dude.
Speaker 2: So you know, he won in like a recall re election. Initially,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: That they recalled that when they recalled Gray Davis and
Speaker 1: then and then put in Schwarzenegger, who was a Republican
Speaker 1: and in everything except for environmentalists, he really did line
Speaker 1: up as a Republican.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know that was what we had.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's not above California.
Speaker 1: As a I mean, think Reagan for that matter. I
Speaker 1: mean these guys coming from out of the entertainment world
Speaker 1: that have the slickness to make it sound less toxic.
Speaker 1: You know, these Republican talking points and policy platforms are
Speaker 1: the same. But Arnold can make it sound you know, smooth.
Speaker 1: Steve Hilton can make it sound polite in English. Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan could make it sound rugged and western, and it
Speaker 1: all was the same groceries, different bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So this is what we're up against here.
Speaker 2: But you know, some people being associated to Trump is
Speaker 2: just not enough right to say, Okay, they're a bad person.
Speaker 2: And you know, truthfully, in politics it should be because
Speaker 2: of someone legitimately. It should not be because if someone
Speaker 2: legitimately holds the belief the core beliefs of the republican
Speaker 2: part of the smaller government, the greater accountability for spending
Speaker 2: on the fiscal responsibility supposed to have, that's one that
Speaker 2: they're supposed to have.
Speaker 1: I know we got newstopping in sports than more with
Speaker 1: Attorney Jaya personallyn only right here. You appreciate you. Attorney
Speaker 1: Jay a person Lynn is with us, And yesterday we
Speaker 1: were talking about the La Jazz Festival and it's demise
Speaker 1: or postponement. I hope it's a postponement. Something I personally
Speaker 1: have been involved in helping out working with. I'm on
Speaker 1: the board of their foundation. I've been working on it
Speaker 1: maybe five years. I know Martin Ludlow, the visionary behind it,
Speaker 1: the founder, been working on it about fifteen years. You
Speaker 1: don't just get to just go out on the beach
Speaker 1: and put up a stage and do a show. That's
Speaker 1: just not how it works. And anyone who has dealt
Speaker 1: with the city and county and state here knows that
Speaker 1: it's it can be quite amazed, it can be quite challenging. Also,
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, which I didn't get time to
Speaker 1: say yesterday, that the Jazz Festival Foundation has been doing
Speaker 1: these jazz camps for the past two summers where we
Speaker 1: have the best and some of the best high school
Speaker 1: jazz musicians from all over the country come to LA
Speaker 1: and study with jazz masters on scholarship as just part
Speaker 1: of the charitable work that the Foundation does so, and
Speaker 1: this is an organization that has a solid board people.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not some fly by night operation. But
Speaker 1: it's getting slaughtered in the mainstream press, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it is unfair.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I am disappointed, and I do think it's legit that
Speaker 1: people are disappointed and upset, but the way that is
Speaker 1: being reported, I think is quite unfair. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that the June teen festival like the
Speaker 2: big one because it had been going on for years
Speaker 2: and people should know that. But in twenty twenty we
Speaker 2: were under COVID restrictions. There was no permits to get
Speaker 2: But after we did a demonstration of black Love in
Speaker 2: response to the George Floyd protests, we had two weeks
Speaker 2: later or really about yeah, a little over two weeks later,
Speaker 2: it was a decision was made to have the June
Speaker 2: teen Festival, and we did it. You know, there was
Speaker 2: no security issues, no problems, but we did it certainly
Speaker 2: without any permits, because nobody was getting permits to do
Speaker 2: social gatherings. If you remember at the time, they were
Speaker 2: called like super spread or events. Oh yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: went off without a hits and it was a community
Speaker 2: showing what the community wanted and they were like virtually
Speaker 2: no police there and no problems, and so you know,
Speaker 2: as the years passed, certainly, you know, it does cost
Speaker 2: money to shut down streets, It does cost money to
Speaker 2: make sure you have the adequate security. But it just
Speaker 2: seems sometimes that these security concerns for the majority black
Speaker 2: events or black lead events gets overstated, like overblown, like
Speaker 2: way too much security is required, and that drives the
Speaker 2: cost of so great it sometimes becomes prohibitive to do
Speaker 2: these events. And that was really the number one reason
Speaker 2: behind that June Team Festival as we knew it ceasing
Speaker 2: to exist is the cost of security. And so I'm
Speaker 2: hoping I heard it correctly yesterday on your show when
Speaker 2: you had mister Ludlow. He was, you know, explaining that
Speaker 2: was part of the issues as it got down to
Speaker 2: the brass tax of it all. And it's just unfortunate
Speaker 2: that you see that so often, with those security costs
Speaker 2: being so great and like the theory behind them, like, man,
Speaker 2: we have to do this otherwise you know there will
Speaker 2: be some kind of problem. And for a jazz festival,
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the lowest security risks all music festivals.
Speaker 2: But you know, when it's black people involved, you can
Speaker 2: still expect that there's going to be a great amount
Speaker 2: of security required. And that's where I think it becomes
Speaker 2: a bit unfair to our community to require such a
Speaker 2: significant amount of security for something that is otherwise safe.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, we do have and like you said,
Speaker 2: you don't just go to the beach and have a celebration,
Speaker 2: but we do have the that the Chase Burton Parks
Speaker 2: concerts theories that takes place throughout the summer, and to
Speaker 2: my knowledge, there aren't any and that's a free event
Speaker 2: and there aren't any like significant security issues that have
Speaker 2: ever happened there. And we've had all kind of R
Speaker 2: and B singers, rappers, so on and so forth, so
Speaker 2: we know it can be done successfully. We know just
Speaker 2: because black people have events does not mean it's some
Speaker 2: great security risk. But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's more so because I remember seeing
Speaker 2: you like MC the welcome, like, hey, we're gonna do
Speaker 2: this event. That's an Yeah, it was such an exciting time,
Speaker 2: and I was so excited for the city because you know,
Speaker 2: Long Beaches is so big, and Guardenas has grown and
Speaker 2: become something. So I was excited for the city of
Speaker 2: Los Angeles to finally have something. And so it just
Speaker 2: makes me wonder, with the knowledge I have, how much
Speaker 2: anti blackness went into the decisions by the government that
Speaker 2: led to it being canceled or postponed. Because I know
Speaker 2: for a fact, when you know the government gets together
Speaker 2: and wants something to happen, it can happen, and it
Speaker 2: will happen, and they'll find the money. They'll find it.
Speaker 2: But this particular situation, it didn't, And it's very it's
Speaker 2: upsetting to a certain degree, but it certainly makes me
Speaker 2: wonder and look past just oh, we couldn't do it,
Speaker 2: Like what were the motivations behind not being able to
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really disappointing. I mean, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: my heart is definitely broken by this, the amount of work,
Speaker 1: the amount of money, the amount of care and vision
Speaker 1: that went into it, and I hope that he can,
Speaker 1: you know, do the heavy lift to make it happen.
Speaker 1: It's going to be heavier because of the reputational damage
Speaker 1: and the disappointment in the market, but I'm hoping. And
Speaker 1: it seems crazy to me that you don't get your
Speaker 1: bill from La Fire and La PD until just a
Speaker 1: week or days before you know the concert. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the final cost, and here's your final danger rating. You know,
Speaker 1: you're a seven out of eight and it's gonna cost
Speaker 1: you hundreds of thousands and we need it all up
Speaker 1: front by tomorrow. Like that just seems who can do that?
Speaker 1: If you're not a massive corporation, no one can do that.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the city contracting system, where a
Speaker 1: lot of times you have to put up the money
Speaker 1: first and then the city will reimburse you, which effectively
Speaker 1: locks out a lot of black and smaller independent businesses
Speaker 1: of any ethnic group. And to me, that is part
Speaker 1: of what we have to fix, because whether it's intentional
Speaker 1: or not, it becomes a de facto bar that keeps
Speaker 1: us out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly, And we also just have to understand
Speaker 2: what we're up again to make sure we are seeking
Speaker 2: those alternative funding sources, because you know, the anti blackness
Speaker 2: is a real thing, unfortunately like a real thing. But
Speaker 2: we also know through experience and events that we've had
Speaker 2: in the city and throughout the county that celebrations like
Speaker 2: jazz festivals, which are beautiful celebrations of culture originated by
Speaker 2: black people in this country, that they are successful, that
Speaker 2: they are safe, and they are welcoming, and they are enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Them and they are funny. We got the Lambert Park one.
Speaker 1: You know, that's small. You know, it's wonderful, but it's
Speaker 1: small compared to what they were trying to do with
Speaker 1: what we were trying to do with La Jazz Fest.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's also worth noting to your point,
Speaker 1: when folks want to get stuff done, they get it done.
Speaker 1: You know, Bridge Street and Martin Ludlow were the people
Speaker 1: that produced the Obama the renaming of Obama Boulevard. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were there, but it was
Speaker 1: every you know, bloods, crips and everybody in between Democrats Republicans.
Speaker 1: It was tens of thousands of people out on the street,
Speaker 1: King in Obama and it was dope. You know. I
Speaker 1: was one of the MC's of that event. Stevie was
Speaker 1: there and Dougie Fresh was all kinds of music and
Speaker 1: that was able to happen because folks got behind it.
Speaker 1: But also I point that out just to say, this
Speaker 1: is not some fly by night organization. They've done huge
Speaker 1: events before, many of them, and they were successful and
Speaker 1: fine with no security problems. So it's not somebody that
Speaker 1: doesn't know what they're doing just pulling a fast one.
Speaker 1: It's a failure of our infrastructure, of our of our
Speaker 1: government and our civic organizations to support. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: the rise of a new institution. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the things, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that.
Speaker 1: That I celebrate, and you know about this radio station.
Speaker 1: We are building an institution in the community, and many
Speaker 1: of our electeds have stepped up, you know, and gone
Speaker 1: the extra mile to help us with the heavy lift.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it is that's exactly what's needed.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I know to that point, when Mark Ridley Thomas
Speaker 2: was in office, he had you know, he made sure
Speaker 2: that the funding for the the festivals were there, like
Speaker 2: he covered the cost Each council member has a discretionary budget,
Speaker 2: and he made sure the costs of the closing the
Speaker 2: street the law enforcement was covered and made happen because
Speaker 2: of what the giunteenth event was in the short time
Speaker 2: we were having while he was back on the council.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I would have certainly expected here
Speaker 2: to say the least is that that the people in
Speaker 2: power would have certainly stepped up and said, hey, we
Speaker 2: need to get this done. This is too big for
Speaker 2: our community for something to fail, and it would just
Speaker 2: put a damper on, you know, future projects and things
Speaker 2: that people want to do in Los Angeles. And once
Speaker 2: we do it and sow the success of it, the
Speaker 2: rest of the naysayers will see how grand and great
Speaker 2: it is and how great of a look it is
Speaker 2: for the city. And so we certainly should have it
Speaker 2: the same way you know they have the Grand Park
Speaker 2: celebration at New Year's and all that that does for
Speaker 2: the city and just the morale of things. I think
Speaker 2: it was that important to just make it, push it through,
Speaker 2: make it happen, whatever needed to happen to make it happen.
Speaker 2: So I can say I was like certainly saddened by
Speaker 2: the news that it was not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because those are the things that make
Speaker 1: us a world class city. Right, It's not just you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not just buildings and transit and Hollywood. It's
Speaker 1: it's the events, it's the experience, it's the feeling, the vibe,
Speaker 1: the morale. Those are the things that make us a
Speaker 1: world class city. Attorney Jaya Person Lynn is with me,
Speaker 1: and you're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty Jay Person
Speaker 1: Lynn is with us, and Paul from La is calling Jaya,
Speaker 1: good morning, Paul, welcome.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning. I have to call in my
Speaker 4: brother from another mother's online. What's good, Jay.
Speaker 2: Lazy? What is the deal? Mother? Brother?
Speaker 4: I was calling in because just on the and it's
Speaker 4: crazy you guys are talking about it specifically to the
Speaker 4: anti black that's going on with replacing black leadership, obviously
Speaker 4: brother Mark Riley Thomas, who I still support to this day,
Speaker 4: and Karen Price that I still support to this day.
Speaker 4: And it just reminds me of what happened on those
Speaker 4: leaked audio tapes that we knew back in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: whereas the LA Council just openly admitted that they redistricted
Speaker 4: because they didn't like how the black group and population
Speaker 4: has such an influence on and political power in the
Speaker 4: city of Los Angeles. And I think something like that
Speaker 4: needs to be revisited because we're looking at District nine going,
Speaker 4: we're looking at potentially District eight going into their future
Speaker 4: because they have diluted and separated the black vote and
Speaker 4: the black leadership. So what do you guys thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Jay Man, Yeah, I mean that's certainly clear. You know,
Speaker 2: there's so many factors that go into it. I know
Speaker 2: I see it.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 2: I think it's clear that the impact that Mark Eley
Speaker 2: Thomas has had, uh and the impact to the entire
Speaker 2: city of losing his leadership over the last few years
Speaker 2: due to the case. I think we're seeing it significantly
Speaker 2: right now. And I think there's, uh, there's certainly an
Speaker 2: anti blackness behind it, and that's what I think it
Speaker 2: is our job to call out. But I don't think
Speaker 2: it was over with after those takes, those takes leaked.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's broad. I think it's different than
Speaker 2: traditional racism that we've felt throughout this country because it's
Speaker 2: it's stemming in, you know, not necessarily strictly white communities.
Speaker 2: Like the black and white racism, we've worked out significantly.
Speaker 2: The racial hatred between black and brown I think is
Speaker 2: something a bit newer for us and something that's pretty
Speaker 2: unique to the southwestern regions.
Speaker 1: Well, that's also being I mean, but that's also being fanned.
Speaker 1: Those flames are being fanned right now a lot by
Speaker 1: the right because we've also had historical coalitions, and history
Speaker 1: there would be no Mayor Tom Bradley if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for black brown coalition, there would be no Mayor Antonio
Speaker 1: Villa Rugosa, you know. So, I mean, it's not used
Speaker 1: to be that that division was stoked mostly by what
Speaker 1: happened behind the walls of the prison system. Now it's
Speaker 1: happening with the Republican Party trying to pit immigrants against
Speaker 1: black Americans, and so it's not just mysterious. Some of
Speaker 1: it is very much part of an op campaign that
Speaker 1: has been quite effective.
Speaker 4: Dominique, can I say and I agree, Go ahead, Paul,
Speaker 4: Here's here's the part of it that I'll I want
Speaker 4: to talk about. The damage was never repaired. We have
Speaker 4: on record proving that those council members specifically targeted diluting
Speaker 4: the black vote in the black political influence, but that redistricting.
Speaker 1: But that redistricting didn't happen. I mean, part of what's
Speaker 1: happening with CD nine is not anti blackness. It's the
Speaker 1: fact that that is now a majority Latino district. That's
Speaker 1: who lives there. They're going to vote for someone brown.
Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily reflects anti blackness. In fact,
Speaker 1: the fact that current Price has been the leader of
Speaker 1: that district for the past eight years, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that it is a majority black, majority Latino district, might
Speaker 1: tell an absolutely different story.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna send you some information on that, because it's
Speaker 4: on the record that those members strategically came a strategy
Speaker 4: on how to dilute the black hole.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm clear on that. You can send me information.
Speaker 1: I've read it. I know what they were doing. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying the read districting that they were trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish did not happen. Sure did they have influence of
Speaker 1: over the course of you know, Nuri Martinez being city
Speaker 1: council president. Yes, I'm sure she did. Have things been
Speaker 1: done to dilute the black vote, absolutely, but also to me,
Speaker 1: to say that it's a conspiracy that we have a
Speaker 1: Latino council member in the ninth district when most of
Speaker 1: the residents of the ninth district are black, it does
Speaker 1: just sound that doesn't sound that sounds like a reach
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, how is that what gymnasts? Oh,
Speaker 1: you're saying before, But we've always had a black council
Speaker 1: district council leader there, So how is that. I don't
Speaker 1: know where's the conspiracy if that's where the majority of
Speaker 1: the polity is.
Speaker 2: And I understand you, but because you know, we we
Speaker 2: do have a lot of black people that told their
Speaker 2: homes that their family he's owned out right and moved
Speaker 2: to the Inland Empire, moved to the Anelope Valley, and
Speaker 2: we've seen just the population decrease. When the OJ case
Speaker 2: happened thirty years ago, LA City was seventeen percent black.
Speaker 2: Now it's like nine percent black. And it's not just
Speaker 2: population growth. There's black people moving out of the city
Speaker 2: for whatever reason they're moving. And so I do think
Speaker 2: that needs to be taken into account, and I certainly
Speaker 2: see it in the jury pools downtown. It's quite significant.
Speaker 2: Considering what the interesting. But it's a point that some
Speaker 2: of that is just demographic, and you know that means
Speaker 2: black political power should be increasing in the Inland Empire
Speaker 2: in the Analope Valley. I'm not sure that it is,
Speaker 2: but there's certainly more to it than just black and brown.
Speaker 2: But I was I believe he spoke to my point
Speaker 2: when I said, it's more on the black and brown,
Speaker 2: just true animus where there was coalitions historically and people
Speaker 2: had to working together historically. And I grew up in
Speaker 2: a Los Angeles where black and brown it was a
Speaker 2: known and a felt coalitions. That's what I remember, And
Speaker 2: the sentiments did come the present sentiments I believe did
Speaker 2: stem from what goes on behind those walls in the
Speaker 2: prison industrial complex. But they're certainly there now, and I
Speaker 2: don't think we can, we can or should overlook how
Speaker 2: significant they are, because you know, it's really I'm seeing
Speaker 2: in the government structure. I'm seeing the anti blackness, particularly
Speaker 2: from the Latino community, in particularly in law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do a whole show on that. Well,
Speaker 1: turned Jaia personal and we're up against news, traffic and
Speaker 1: sports here, and I know you're up against court, So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with me this morning. Paul,
Speaker 1: if you want to stay with you're invited to do so,
Speaker 1: but we got to leave it here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you Dominique, and thanks Paul.
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