1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,839 Speaker 1: Maybe La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, good morning, and 2 00:00:02,919 --> 00:00:07,440 God bless Happy home day. I'm Dominique de Prima. This 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,839 show is called First Things First, and my first thing 4 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:13,679 is always prayer. It's always prayer, prayer, prayer, giving, thanksgiving, 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,640 praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,679 blessings of the ancestors and the elders. And let's go, Yes, 7 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:24,600 let's do this. It's a wealth building Wednesday. Because well, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,440 our days have names around here, and our one we 9 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:31,760 look local, hour two we go national, international, and beyond, 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,759 typically starting the hour with an opportunity or a spotlight 11 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:38,159 on a business. And then our three we do a 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,719 deep dive with a person or persons of interest. We 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,840 are more or less on point with that to day. 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,920 You're welcome in every hour at eight hundred and nine 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,359 to oh fifteen eighty, eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 I'd like to throw a little well being in our Wednesday. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,240 So our three we'll be talking with doctor Noel Reed. 18 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:01,920 She is an MD in an interness, but she's also 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,239 a doctor to the staris a dancing doctor teaches plates 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,359 yoga as part of our practice. You may know her 21 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:14,159 from married to medicine. She'll be with us today. And 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,560 of course I want to remind you to tap in 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,719 on all the socials we are at KBLA fifteen eighty 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:27,640 everywhere we stream their daily on YouTube and Facebook. YouTube's 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,519 got the comments section, which is a whole vibe. And 26 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:34,760 then of course sometimes I'm on my socials, which are DPREMA, Radio, 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,400 dp R, I m A, Please like, follow, subscribe, do 28 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,519 all those things. It keeps us strong, it keeps us 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,359 connected and viable. So yeah, tap in. Some folks are 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,079 listening from work and they do not have the opportunity 31 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:56,239 to call. So if you're one of those, you know 32 00:01:56,359 --> 00:02:00,760 you can sneak in a thought or two in the section. 33 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:05,599 Apparently we're in a heat wave. Hopefully we're hydrated. Can 34 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:07,480 say I did a great job of that yesterday, but 35 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:13,560 apparently to today, well, yesterday, today and tomorrow in southern 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,199 California are hot, hot, hot, hot hot. We do have 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,439 a lot to talk about. It's going to be a 38 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:27,039 wild election season. I can already tell it's not local, 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:34,639 but it resonates really in every municipality. The fact that 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,639 even Florida has elected a Democratic socialist, even the state 41 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:49,879 of Florida elected a black woman who is a Democratic 42 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 socialist and by the way, Angie Nixon is her name, 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,560 and by the way, she wins against the guy, this guy, 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,840 alex Vinman, who had sixteen times as much campaign money 45 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:10,280 as she did. Wow. So you know, hello, Hello Democratic Party. 46 00:03:11,319 --> 00:03:17,400 Earth to the Democratic Party, your party, your constituents, the people, 47 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:21,080 We the us, the we, the collective, the greater good, 48 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:25,919 remember us. We are moving to the left. Whatever y'all doing, 49 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:31,560 it is not cutting it. And I don't hate to 50 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,520 say I told you so. I love to say I 51 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,919 told you so because I really feel like, for all 52 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,479 of the you know, challenges in blind spots and in 53 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:48,879 some cases terrible you know platforms or whatever, the energy 54 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:52,840 of the Democratic Party is in the progressive wing. And 55 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:57,280 I've been saying this for more than a decade. That's 56 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,080 where it is. Stop running from it, stop hiding from it. 57 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,479 It's an interview with Hakeem Jeffries, I think it was. 58 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,800 It was on Meet the Press where he was dodging 59 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:17,759 and skating around the whole episode of the whole issue 60 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:24,079 of Medicare for all and why he's not really for it. 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 He's old. We've got to find we have to find 62 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,879 a solution for this healthcare crisis. But okay, but it's 63 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,519 not medicare for all. And by solution, I mean solution 64 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:40,920 that my campaign donors who are insurance companies will be 65 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,199 fine with. So I mean, I just say that because 66 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,639 you know, let's start out with something that makes us smile. 67 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,920 It makes me smile because I believe that the energy 68 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,279 of the progressive wing of the party, with the young 69 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,079 people energy, even though we have you know, you got 70 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,120 your Bernie Sanders, not only for young people, the young 71 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,160 people energy, the people of color energy, the women energy, 72 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,920 is what's not only going to save the party because 73 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:11,240 in a sense, that's not really a priority. It's what's 74 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,399 going for me. It's what's going to save the country. 75 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,319 How about that? And I say that because we've got 76 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,319 to be able to take care of people. We can't 77 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:22,839 have people dying and sleeping and living on the streets. 78 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,959 We can't have elders with no health care. We can't 79 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,759 have a kleptocracy where the very rich are just taking 80 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,199 money out of the cash register by the handful while 81 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,160 people are literally starving. And this right here is part 82 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:41,399 of the way forward, I think. Anyway, Oh, look, who's 83 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,439 on my phone. I was hoping he would tap in. 84 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,600 Even though he's got father papa duties, and he's got 85 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:51,240 court duties, and he's got a whole dog on law 86 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,079 practice to run. He's a more houseman. He is an 87 00:05:55,079 --> 00:06:00,480 attorney in private practice, personal in law. He's a California native, 88 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,079 Southern California native. At that it's like spotting a rare 89 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:12,439 bird attorney a person. Lynn, Good morning, Good morning, I'm Nate. 90 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:13,399 Speaker 2: How you doing today. 91 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you. 92 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,439 Speaker 2: I'm doing good, doing good, just you know, up a 93 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:26,360 little early, happy to be here and discuss whenever we 94 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:29,959 get to discuss. And I do have to say something 95 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,160 because I know you did it with the best of hearts. 96 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:37,079 But I am a Hampton man. O. 97 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:46,199 Speaker 1: Lord, sorry about that. I knew that, Lord, And Howard 98 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:52,439 law right and Howard law right. What's the Hampton mascot? 99 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: We know, we all know the pirate, Oh pirates right 100 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:58,040 there on the water. 101 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, So it looks like it's going to 102 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:09,439 be quite quite a turbulent election season around here around 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,680 not just here, around the whole country. Oh yeah, So 104 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:17,959 you know, buckle your seat belts one in all, and 105 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,759 I don't know if you saw this fake poll. There's 106 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,920 some company that put out a fake poll and it 107 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,720 showed Mayor Karen Bass leading by a wide margin, and 108 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:34,639 then they like two days later said, oh, psych, it 109 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,959 wasn't really a real poll. We were just trying to 110 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,639 see something, and now people are trying to put that 111 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:46,360 on the mayor. I saw council Member Ramen's team, you know, 112 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,160 sort of go harping about it, saying, well, they didn't 113 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,560 vet their own poles. But honestly, I don't think most 114 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,759 people do. I think when we see a poll, we 115 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,639 just report the results. You don't go in and you know, 116 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:02,120 independently verify that all these people were actually interviewed. No, 117 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:06,519 campaigns don't do it, corporations don't do it. Most media 118 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:09,160 out lets don't even do it. But it turns out 119 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,879 this was just something that they thought would be It 120 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,560 was like what they call a social experiment. I find 121 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:17,120 it fishy. 122 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:25,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds fishy to start with. I mean it 123 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:28,160 is a lesson and a reminder that it is important 124 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:34,080 to bet any information that you get. But I was 125 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,360 just at the National Bar Associated some conference and did 126 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:45,639 a seminar on AI and man, they can do a 127 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:51,519 whole poll like and be fake, but it sounds real. 128 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,720 He showed us it was like he made a website 129 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,159 it said like check the boat dot com orce something 130 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:07,200 and showed him he could manipulate it from his phone whenever. So, uh, 131 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 that that's something, But it is kind of fishy to 132 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:14,120 really put it out there. That means somebody took the 133 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,320 time to call these outlets, send it to these outlets 134 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,240 for nobody to vet that. That's uh, that's something. But 135 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:29,120 they the point of the seminar is that they have real, 136 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:35,600 official sounding names. But we have to remember if we 137 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:41,039 have frauds and scammers out there, now, they have AI too, 138 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,240 and they can do it. Not even saying that this 139 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,279 was the AI. But it's just wow that this would 140 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,879 come out just to give the other side momentum bus. Ultimately, 141 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:54,639 I think. 142 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why I think it's fishy. Oh, 143 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,240 you wanted to see you wanted to see something. But 144 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:02,279 of all the race in all the country, you pick 145 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:06,919 the black mayor of Los Angeles to do your little 146 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,519 experiment on. They could have done it on any member 147 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:11,679 of Congress, they could have done it on the president. Nope, 148 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,320 they chose I find it. I you know, the LA 149 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,799 time says little is known about the firm, Well, why 150 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,559 somebody needs to do an investigation? I think I find 151 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,200 it very conveniently fishy. And they're saying, oh, well, it 152 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,080 casts light on how poles are wrong a lot of 153 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,519 the time. Well, those can be. A real pole can 154 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,240 be wrong because they don't they just take a sample 155 00:10:36,279 --> 00:10:39,080 of people. But a fake pole is something different, and 156 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,960 we haven't seen much of that. That's pretty unusual. 157 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, even though we've seen a lot, You've 158 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:51,480 seen a whole lot. Just a straight up fake pole 159 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,399 is quite unusual to even hear about. But thenn't it 160 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:02,360 be be putted on by multiple outlet That is? That 161 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,639 is something. But yet again there's a lesson and everything. 162 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,120 The lesson here is that we really need to vet 163 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,039 and in this day and age, especially in what I 164 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,279 do as a trial attorney. You know, they used to 165 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,639 say believe none of which you hear in half of 166 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,279 what you see. Man, I think that day is over 167 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:26,679 a bit. I don't think you could believe anything without 168 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:29,960 like the receipts, Like you can't believe any picture without 169 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,679 the metadatta, Like until you show me what day this 170 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,679 picture was created. I can't believe it because I can 171 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:41,679 take any picture I want, put it inside GBT and 172 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,879 make it look like something that it really isn't, but 173 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,840 still look like a bit a real picture. And so 174 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,320 this is a this is some perilous times we're living in. 175 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: Like I said that, I mean, that's a really good 176 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,039 point about the AI piece. I hadn't talked about that, 177 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,320 which is, you know, I guess whether it's a poll 178 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,279 or a photo or a video or a news report 179 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:10,320 that we really have to somehow and most of us 180 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,240 don't even know how to do it. You can call Miles. 181 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,320 He can help you figure out whether it's AI or 182 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,639 whether it's real. I mean, honestly, Ja, sometimes I find myself, 183 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,080 I've got a scroll in the comments because this doesn't 184 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,919 look real to me, and somebody's gonna call it out 185 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:28,759 that's AI, you know. But that's not a reliable method either. 186 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,480 I mean, with an article, you can search it, you know, 187 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,679 with a you know, I guess with a poll, you 188 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:38,080 could search at least who the company is, what their 189 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,000 track record is. But with a photo, how do you 190 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,720 verify that? 191 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough, and you know, at least on Instagram. 192 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,080 I know they're supposed to have like the a this 193 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,600 is generated with AI tag on anything that was AI generated, 194 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:05,519 But once again, there's no still specific certain way that's 195 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,720 definitely that'll get you the answers that you seek on 196 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:15,120 where it was generated and how it was generated, because ultimately, 197 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,639 I believe I could create and like an AI picture 198 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,000 like screenshoted, and I'm not sure that if I did 199 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,919 all that before it got to Instagram, an Instagram will 200 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,320 be able to pick up on that. I mean, it's possible. 201 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,120 It was certainly ways around it. 202 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: Well, there have to be, and I think we'll get 203 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,519 more sophisticated with time. They're also saying it could be, 204 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,559 it could have it could actually be a crime if 205 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,639 they were trying to you know, if it was polymarket 206 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,799 oriented or calcy oriented where they were trying to take 207 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,440 or make bets based on this polling, if you want 208 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,600 to weigh in eight hundred and nine two fifteen eighty, 209 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:58,879 we do have a lot to talk about. Attorney Ja 210 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,919 Person is here and I'm Dominique Diprima and this is 211 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:07,559 KBLA talk fifteen to eighty right now. JA Person Lynn 212 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:10,440 is with us. He's an attorney and Jay. We've got 213 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:15,240 Fred from Crenshaw on the phone. Good morning, Fred, welcome. 214 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: Come on, Sister Dominic. How you doing. 215 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:20,039 Speaker 1: I'm good. What's on your mind this morning? 216 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: Fred? 217 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to talk about the governess race if 218 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:30,600 I can. Okay, go ahead, y'all ask you know, basically 219 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,600 it's going to be between two people, he Saidsell and Hilton. 220 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,200 I would prefer but Sarah in there rather than Hilton. 221 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:45,480 You know, Hilton is is a Republican. And the thing 222 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:49,759 about it is, I haven't heard anything yet of how 223 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,399 the black community plans to vote for governor. 224 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: As you know, you missed my show, Fred, we did 225 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,879 a whole show about that. Right now. Sarah is polling 226 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,639 really strongly among black voters. 227 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: Oh okayles that are not a I uh all right, 228 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:13,759 well okay, Well, well that that is a great new 229 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,200 new news zeus here, because you know, uh, we have 230 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,399 Americans that have been uh really uh done wrong. As 231 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 I said, you know, we had Rega do magents. So 232 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,240 I'm glad to hear that, uh that Sarah is uh 233 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:32,399 doing well with the black community. I would encourage all 234 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:35,960 all of us to be sure to hit the pole 235 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,000 nomever third with you black white Latino l g PT 236 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,919 because we need everybody been there, and I'm glad you 237 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 brought a good point in Florida that I think the 238 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,200 first time they got their uh black woman. So I 239 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,840 think we all have to pay attention to that because, 240 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:58,000 as you know, Florida is a swing state, and that's 241 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:01,320 the state the Democrats won't need the president show election 242 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,879 of twenty twenty eight. 243 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:06,039 Speaker 1: Indeed it is, we need it in the midterms too, 244 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:10,200 for sure. Thank you, Fred, I appreciate the observation. Uh yeah, 245 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,879 best set. I mean, he was part of the Obama 246 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,480 administration and then the Biden administration, so you got to 247 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,600 figure there's that. Plus he has a long, you know, 248 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:22,279 track record, He's not an unknown factor, so maybe that 249 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,840 explains his strong polling among black voters. Also, we don't 250 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,799 generally love voting for Fox News hosts. 251 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:37,919 Speaker 2: But your thoughts, Jaye, Yeah, that's this is an interesting 252 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:46,519 governor's race too. Like I didn't hear with the Hilton's 253 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:49,919 name until I believe he was like on the show 254 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,039 with Tavis. That was the first time I heard him. Yeah, yeah, 255 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,320 like as a human being. 256 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow? 257 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: Ever, okay, yeah, Like I didn't know he existed, and 258 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:04,359 then for him to be the Republican nominee. I think 259 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,559 we're gonna see something here because it's uh, it was 260 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,480 a time like I remember the two thousand presidential election 261 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,039 where you go to sleep and gore one and you 262 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:24,880 wake up and the Bush one. Yeah, but apparently that 263 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:31,759 happened in a California gubernatorial election as well, where people 264 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,920 went to sleep and Tom Bradley won but woke up 265 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:38,319 and I forget who it was, but they they had. Ultimately, 266 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,599 it was some way way back. But I think maybe 267 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,119 even before, well certainly before I was a cotton center politics. 268 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:56,039 But I will say that, you know, California gets liberal 269 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,240 up to a certain point, and we're about to see. 270 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:08,759 Speaker 1: George Duke Magian. It was Duke Magian. Yes, yes, yeah, 271 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:12,640 I mean California is progressive in this along the coasts, 272 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,200 but that's where all the people are. I know, Hilton, 273 00:18:17,599 --> 00:18:20,759 you're saying he could surprise us, but right now he's 274 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:22,960 getting his butt handed to him in the polls. I 275 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,559 mean we're talking like sixty to forty percent or something, 276 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,720 and I know that can change, but I know Tom 277 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:32,279 Bradley was never polland like that Bassetto would be the 278 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:37,880 first Latino governor, so hopefully that would activate the Latino vote, 279 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,960 which is unpredictable. 280 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,279 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that's that's what America, I mean, California 281 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,880 is really going to see because that that Latino vote, 282 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,319 it is unpredictable, and we don't necessarily know that the 283 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,759 Spanish last name is enough to generate the majority of 284 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,599 Latino vote. But you know where that vote goes is 285 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,559 certainly who will win the election. 286 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's more than just the last name. He's 287 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:17,039 been the Secretary of Health and Human Services. He's you know, 288 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,480 he's been in politics in California for a very long time, 289 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,079 so it's you know what I mean, he's a known factor. 290 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,319 It's not just the name. 291 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: No, I get that, and based on history and how 292 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:35,440 things should be, he should win quite easily. 293 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: Right. 294 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: But you're saying, don't take it for granted. 295 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: Exactly. 296 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,279 Speaker 2: That's my point in all of it is that we'll, 297 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,599 you know, we'll see the true colors once they find 298 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,880 these show and shine bright on election day or up 299 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,799 until election day. But that's something I think we should 300 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:59,839 all be on the lookout for because it's not as 301 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:03,799 black and white as many would try and make it. 302 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,079 Speaker 1: Right, and as we just spent a whole bunch of 303 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,480 time talking about the polls are and reliable, even the 304 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,640 legit ones. This is that was a UC Berkeley, La 305 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:14,680 Times pullet sound it found beset I had fifty five 306 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:18,319 percent in Hilton at thirty seven, with only seven percent 307 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,279 of voters undecided. I don't know where the other that 308 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,440 doesn't add up to one hundred. But maybe they're still 309 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:28,640 voting for Antonio Viarragoza even though he didn't, you know, 310 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:33,079 or someone else that didn't make the runoff. So right 311 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,640 now it looks best set up. But I think you're right. 312 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 It would be a mistake to just think, oh, we 313 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:42,279 don't have to worry about it, we don't have to vote. No, 314 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,880 you can mess around and have a an English Fox 315 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:52,920 News Trump supporter for governor of California, which would be 316 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,519 pretty dire actually, and it would not. 317 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: Be the first time we had a year and born 318 00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:03,000 governor in California. 319 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,759 Speaker 1: Really, who who's the other one? 320 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,319 Speaker 2: Theah, that's right, yes. 321 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Of course, Honold. I don't even really think of him 322 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,680 as a governor, even though he was the governor, because. 323 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,759 Speaker 2: He was certainly the governor. Yeah, he was the governor multiples. 324 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: And if you think about it, that was when the 325 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:31,559 then community organizer Karen Bass went to the Assembly and 326 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:33,880 ended up being the first black woman to lead a 327 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,960 state house in all of in the whole United States, 328 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,519 and she had to deal with that dude. 329 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: So you know, he won in like a recall re election. Initially, 330 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:48,599 I believe. 331 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: That they recalled that when they recalled Gray Davis and 332 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,519 then and then put in Schwarzenegger, who was a Republican 333 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,359 and in everything except for environmentalists, he really did line 334 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,559 up as a Republican. 335 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know that was what we had. 336 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,200 So you know, it's not above California. 337 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,559 Speaker 1: As a I mean, think Reagan for that matter. I 338 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,319 mean these guys coming from out of the entertainment world 339 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,440 that have the slickness to make it sound less toxic. 340 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:27,640 You know, these Republican talking points and policy platforms are 341 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,519 the same. But Arnold can make it sound you know, smooth. 342 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:35,640 Steve Hilton can make it sound polite in English. Ronald 343 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,680 Reagan could make it sound rugged and western, and it 344 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:42,559 all was the same groceries, different bag. 345 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So this is what we're up against here. 346 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:54,880 But you know, some people being associated to Trump is 347 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:59,920 just not enough right to say, Okay, they're a bad person. 348 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,319 And you know, truthfully, in politics it should be because 349 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,960 of someone legitimately. It should not be because if someone 350 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,640 legitimately holds the belief the core beliefs of the republican 351 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,440 part of the smaller government, the greater accountability for spending 352 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:27,240 on the fiscal responsibility supposed to have, that's one that 353 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:28,039 they're supposed to have. 354 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I know we got newstopping in sports than more with 355 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:35,440 Attorney Jaya personallyn only right here. You appreciate you. Attorney 356 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:38,200 Jay a person Lynn is with us, And yesterday we 357 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:43,200 were talking about the La Jazz Festival and it's demise 358 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,920 or postponement. I hope it's a postponement. Something I personally 359 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,960 have been involved in helping out working with. I'm on 360 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,319 the board of their foundation. I've been working on it 361 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,480 maybe five years. I know Martin Ludlow, the visionary behind it, 362 00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:02,119 the founder, been working on it about fifteen years. You 363 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,359 don't just get to just go out on the beach 364 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,799 and put up a stage and do a show. That's 365 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960 just not how it works. And anyone who has dealt 366 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,920 with the city and county and state here knows that 367 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:18,680 it's it can be quite amazed, it can be quite challenging. Also, 368 00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:20,440 I wanted to say, which I didn't get time to 369 00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:25,079 say yesterday, that the Jazz Festival Foundation has been doing 370 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,119 these jazz camps for the past two summers where we 371 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:33,079 have the best and some of the best high school 372 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,599 jazz musicians from all over the country come to LA 373 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:41,759 and study with jazz masters on scholarship as just part 374 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,640 of the charitable work that the Foundation does so, and 375 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:50,039 this is an organization that has a solid board people. 376 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,839 You know, it's not some fly by night operation. But 377 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,720 it's getting slaughtered in the mainstream press, and I think 378 00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:58,920 a lot of it is unfair. 379 00:24:59,079 --> 00:24:59,319 Speaker 3: I do. 380 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: I am disappointed, and I do think it's legit that 381 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:07,680 people are disappointed and upset, but the way that is 382 00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:12,839 being reported, I think is quite unfair. Yeah. 383 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that the June teen festival like the 384 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,680 big one because it had been going on for years 385 00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,599 and people should know that. But in twenty twenty we 386 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,400 were under COVID restrictions. There was no permits to get 387 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:39,920 But after we did a demonstration of black Love in 388 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:46,680 response to the George Floyd protests, we had two weeks 389 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,960 later or really about yeah, a little over two weeks later, 390 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,720 it was a decision was made to have the June 391 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,880 teen Festival, and we did it. You know, there was 392 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,759 no security issues, no problems, but we did it certainly 393 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,000 without any permits, because nobody was getting permits to do 394 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,039 social gatherings. If you remember at the time, they were 395 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:19,680 called like super spread or events. Oh yeah, yeah, it 396 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,000 went off without a hits and it was a community 397 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,759 showing what the community wanted and they were like virtually 398 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,279 no police there and no problems, and so you know, 399 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:38,119 as the years passed, certainly, you know, it does cost 400 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:43,519 money to shut down streets, It does cost money to 401 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,480 make sure you have the adequate security. But it just 402 00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:53,079 seems sometimes that these security concerns for the majority black 403 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,000 events or black lead events gets overstated, like overblown, like 404 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,079 way too much security is required, and that drives the 405 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,480 cost of so great it sometimes becomes prohibitive to do 406 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680 these events. And that was really the number one reason 407 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,559 behind that June Team Festival as we knew it ceasing 408 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,799 to exist is the cost of security. And so I'm 409 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,559 hoping I heard it correctly yesterday on your show when 410 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,160 you had mister Ludlow. He was, you know, explaining that 411 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,200 was part of the issues as it got down to 412 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,680 the brass tax of it all. And it's just unfortunate 413 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,319 that you see that so often, with those security costs 414 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,480 being so great and like the theory behind them, like, man, 415 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,440 we have to do this otherwise you know there will 416 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:53,559 be some kind of problem. And for a jazz festival, 417 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:58,839 I think that's probably the lowest security risks all music festivals. 418 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,559 But you know, when it's black people involved, you can 419 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,799 still expect that there's going to be a great amount 420 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,119 of security required. And that's where I think it becomes 421 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,039 a bit unfair to our community to require such a 422 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,920 significant amount of security for something that is otherwise safe. 423 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,680 And then, you know, we do have and like you said, 424 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,599 you don't just go to the beach and have a celebration, 425 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:35,799 but we do have the that the Chase Burton Parks 426 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,720 concerts theories that takes place throughout the summer, and to 427 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,519 my knowledge, there aren't any and that's a free event 428 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000 and there aren't any like significant security issues that have 429 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,799 ever happened there. And we've had all kind of R 430 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,640 and B singers, rappers, so on and so forth, so 431 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,880 we know it can be done successfully. We know just 432 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000 because black people have events does not mean it's some 433 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,240 great security risk. But at the same time, it's like, 434 00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:14,400 I wonder if it's more so because I remember seeing 435 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880 you like MC the welcome, like, hey, we're gonna do 436 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,279 this event. That's an Yeah, it was such an exciting time, 437 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,319 and I was so excited for the city because you know, 438 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,319 Long Beaches is so big, and Guardenas has grown and 439 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,079 become something. So I was excited for the city of 440 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Los Angeles to finally have something. And so it just 441 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,160 makes me wonder, with the knowledge I have, how much 442 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,519 anti blackness went into the decisions by the government that 443 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,279 led to it being canceled or postponed. Because I know 444 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480 for a fact, when you know the government gets together 445 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,440 and wants something to happen, it can happen, and it 446 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,559 will happen, and they'll find the money. They'll find it. 447 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:04,519 But this particular situation, it didn't, And it's very it's 448 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,799 upsetting to a certain degree, but it certainly makes me 449 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,799 wonder and look past just oh, we couldn't do it, 450 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Like what were the motivations behind not being able to 451 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,160 do it? 452 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really disappointing. I mean, I'm gonna say 453 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000 my heart is definitely broken by this, the amount of work, 454 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:27,160 the amount of money, the amount of care and vision 455 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,920 that went into it, and I hope that he can, 456 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,920 you know, do the heavy lift to make it happen. 457 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,279 It's going to be heavier because of the reputational damage 458 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200 and the disappointment in the market, but I'm hoping. And 459 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,480 it seems crazy to me that you don't get your 460 00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:48,559 bill from La Fire and La PD until just a 461 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,039 week or days before you know the concert. Well, here's 462 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,880 the final cost, and here's your final danger rating. You know, 463 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,720 you're a seven out of eight and it's gonna cost 464 00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,599 you hundreds of thousands and we need it all up 465 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,279 front by tomorrow. Like that just seems who can do that? 466 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,359 If you're not a massive corporation, no one can do that. 467 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,279 It reminds me of the city contracting system, where a 468 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,359 lot of times you have to put up the money 469 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,119 first and then the city will reimburse you, which effectively 470 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,680 locks out a lot of black and smaller independent businesses 471 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,319 of any ethnic group. And to me, that is part 472 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,359 of what we have to fix, because whether it's intentional 473 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:34,880 or not, it becomes a de facto bar that keeps 474 00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:35,680 us out. 475 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly, And we also just have to understand 476 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,039 what we're up again to make sure we are seeking 477 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:53,079 those alternative funding sources, because you know, the anti blackness 478 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,000 is a real thing, unfortunately like a real thing. But 479 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,279 we also know through experience and events that we've had 480 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,880 in the city and throughout the county that celebrations like 481 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:13,359 jazz festivals, which are beautiful celebrations of culture originated by 482 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,039 black people in this country, that they are successful, that 483 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,359 they are safe, and they are welcoming, and they are enjoyed. 484 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Them and they are funny. We got the Lambert Park one. 485 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,680 You know, that's small. You know, it's wonderful, but it's 486 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,799 small compared to what they were trying to do with 487 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:34,160 what we were trying to do with La Jazz Fest. 488 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,000 And I think that it's also worth noting to your point, 489 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,160 when folks want to get stuff done, they get it done. 490 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,559 You know, Bridge Street and Martin Ludlow were the people 491 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:48,880 that produced the Obama the renaming of Obama Boulevard. And 492 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,359 I don't know if you were there, but it was 493 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,160 every you know, bloods, crips and everybody in between Democrats Republicans. 494 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,759 It was tens of thousands of people out on the street, 495 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,559 King in Obama and it was dope. You know. I 496 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,200 was one of the MC's of that event. Stevie was 497 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,279 there and Dougie Fresh was all kinds of music and 498 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,920 that was able to happen because folks got behind it. 499 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,000 But also I point that out just to say, this 500 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,279 is not some fly by night organization. They've done huge 501 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,759 events before, many of them, and they were successful and 502 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,000 fine with no security problems. So it's not somebody that 503 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,440 doesn't know what they're doing just pulling a fast one. 504 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,920 It's a failure of our infrastructure, of our of our 505 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,079 government and our civic organizations to support. Uh. You know, 506 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,559 the rise of a new institution. I think it's one 507 00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:43,799 of the things, you. 508 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: Know, that. 509 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: That I celebrate, and you know about this radio station. 510 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,880 We are building an institution in the community, and many 511 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,279 of our electeds have stepped up, you know, and gone 512 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:01,319 the extra mile to help us with the heavy lift. 513 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and it is that's exactly what's needed. 514 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 515 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:15,599 Speaker 2: And I know to that point, when Mark Ridley Thomas 516 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:22,000 was in office, he had you know, he made sure 517 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:30,360 that the funding for the the festivals were there, like 518 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,199 he covered the cost Each council member has a discretionary budget, 519 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440 and he made sure the costs of the closing the 520 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,719 street the law enforcement was covered and made happen because 521 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,639 of what the giunteenth event was in the short time 522 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,960 we were having while he was back on the council. 523 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,239 And so that's what I would have certainly expected here 524 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,440 to say the least is that that the people in 525 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:07,559 power would have certainly stepped up and said, hey, we 526 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,159 need to get this done. This is too big for 527 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,719 our community for something to fail, and it would just 528 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:21,480 put a damper on, you know, future projects and things 529 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,320 that people want to do in Los Angeles. And once 530 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000 we do it and sow the success of it, the 531 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,239 rest of the naysayers will see how grand and great 532 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,119 it is and how great of a look it is 533 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,679 for the city. And so we certainly should have it 534 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,760 the same way you know they have the Grand Park 535 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,880 celebration at New Year's and all that that does for 536 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,519 the city and just the morale of things. I think 537 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,320 it was that important to just make it, push it through, 538 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800 make it happen, whatever needed to happen to make it happen. 539 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,840 So I can say I was like certainly saddened by 540 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,159 the news that it was not going to happen. 541 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because those are the things that make 542 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,639 us a world class city. Right, It's not just you know, 543 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,880 it's it's not just buildings and transit and Hollywood. It's 544 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,599 it's the events, it's the experience, it's the feeling, the vibe, 545 00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,000 the morale. Those are the things that make us a 546 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,280 world class city. Attorney Jaya Person Lynn is with me, 547 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,639 and you're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty Jay Person 548 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,440 Lynn is with us, and Paul from La is calling Jaya, 549 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,519 good morning, Paul, welcome. 550 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning. I have to call in my 551 00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,480 brother from another mother's online. What's good, Jay. 552 00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:43,559 Speaker 2: Lazy? What is the deal? Mother? Brother? 553 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 4: I was calling in because just on the and it's 554 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400 crazy you guys are talking about it specifically to the 555 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,639 anti black that's going on with replacing black leadership, obviously 556 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,599 brother Mark Riley Thomas, who I still support to this day, 557 00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,199 and Karen Price that I still support to this day. 558 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,760 And it just reminds me of what happened on those 559 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,760 leaked audio tapes that we knew back in twenty twenty one, 560 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,239 whereas the LA Council just openly admitted that they redistricted 561 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:18,440 because they didn't like how the black group and population 562 00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,840 has such an influence on and political power in the 563 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,880 city of Los Angeles. And I think something like that 564 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:30,800 needs to be revisited because we're looking at District nine going, 565 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,559 we're looking at potentially District eight going into their future 566 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,880 because they have diluted and separated the black vote and 567 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,119 the black leadership. So what do you guys thoughts on that? 568 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,639 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 569 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: Jay Man, Yeah, I mean that's certainly clear. You know, 570 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,639 there's so many factors that go into it. I know 571 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:54,639 I see it. 572 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 4: One. 573 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: I think it's clear that the impact that Mark Eley 574 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,679 Thomas has had, uh and the impact to the entire 575 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,719 city of losing his leadership over the last few years 576 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,480 due to the case. I think we're seeing it significantly 577 00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:23,199 right now. And I think there's, uh, there's certainly an 578 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,159 anti blackness behind it, and that's what I think it 579 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,119 is our job to call out. But I don't think 580 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,159 it was over with after those takes, those takes leaked. 581 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,480 I think it's it's broad. I think it's different than 582 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,360 traditional racism that we've felt throughout this country because it's 583 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,960 it's stemming in, you know, not necessarily strictly white communities. 584 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:56,760 Like the black and white racism, we've worked out significantly. 585 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,159 The racial hatred between black and brown I think is 586 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,360 something a bit newer for us and something that's pretty 587 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,519 unique to the southwestern regions. 588 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's also being I mean, but that's also being fanned. 589 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,800 Those flames are being fanned right now a lot by 590 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,880 the right because we've also had historical coalitions, and history 591 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,760 there would be no Mayor Tom Bradley if it wasn't 592 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,320 for black brown coalition, there would be no Mayor Antonio 593 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,320 Villa Rugosa, you know. So, I mean, it's not used 594 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,559 to be that that division was stoked mostly by what 595 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,599 happened behind the walls of the prison system. Now it's 596 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:42,760 happening with the Republican Party trying to pit immigrants against 597 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,840 black Americans, and so it's not just mysterious. Some of 598 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,280 it is very much part of an op campaign that 599 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,519 has been quite effective. 600 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 4: Dominique, can I say and I agree, Go ahead, Paul, 601 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,199 Here's here's the part of it that I'll I want 602 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,840 to talk about. The damage was never repaired. We have 603 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:09,599 on record proving that those council members specifically targeted diluting 604 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,320 the black vote in the black political influence, but that redistricting. 605 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,679 Speaker 1: But that redistricting didn't happen. I mean, part of what's 606 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,800 happening with CD nine is not anti blackness. It's the 607 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,119 fact that that is now a majority Latino district. That's 608 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,559 who lives there. They're going to vote for someone brown. 609 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:31,320 I don't think that necessarily reflects anti blackness. In fact, 610 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,280 the fact that current Price has been the leader of 611 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,960 that district for the past eight years, despite the fact 612 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,800 that it is a majority black, majority Latino district, might 613 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000 tell an absolutely different story. 614 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna send you some information on that, because it's 615 00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:52,000 on the record that those members strategically came a strategy 616 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:53,760 on how to dilute the black hole. 617 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm clear on that. You can send me information. 618 00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:58,800 I've read it. I know what they were doing. But 619 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,559 I'm saying the read districting that they were trying to 620 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:08,440 accomplish did not happen. Sure did they have influence of 621 00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,639 over the course of you know, Nuri Martinez being city 622 00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:15,440 council president. Yes, I'm sure she did. Have things been 623 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,000 done to dilute the black vote, absolutely, but also to me, 624 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,480 to say that it's a conspiracy that we have a 625 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,960 Latino council member in the ninth district when most of 626 00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,440 the residents of the ninth district are black, it does 627 00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,199 just sound that doesn't sound that sounds like a reach 628 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,519 to me. I mean, how is that what gymnasts? Oh, 629 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,440 you're saying before, But we've always had a black council 630 00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:42,639 district council leader there, So how is that. I don't 631 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,639 know where's the conspiracy if that's where the majority of 632 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:46,519 the polity is. 633 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:54,679 Speaker 2: And I understand you, but because you know, we we 634 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,559 do have a lot of black people that told their 635 00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,480 homes that their family he's owned out right and moved 636 00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:05,519 to the Inland Empire, moved to the Anelope Valley, and 637 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:09,440 we've seen just the population decrease. When the OJ case 638 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,039 happened thirty years ago, LA City was seventeen percent black. 639 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,480 Now it's like nine percent black. And it's not just 640 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,679 population growth. There's black people moving out of the city 641 00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:24,039 for whatever reason they're moving. And so I do think 642 00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:28,000 that needs to be taken into account, and I certainly 643 00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:32,360 see it in the jury pools downtown. It's quite significant. 644 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:40,079 Considering what the interesting. But it's a point that some 645 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,920 of that is just demographic, and you know that means 646 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,480 black political power should be increasing in the Inland Empire 647 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,079 in the Analope Valley. I'm not sure that it is, 648 00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:54,480 but there's certainly more to it than just black and brown. 649 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,719 But I was I believe he spoke to my point 650 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,519 when I said, it's more on the black and brown, 651 00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:09,079 just true animus where there was coalitions historically and people 652 00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:12,800 had to working together historically. And I grew up in 653 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,719 a Los Angeles where black and brown it was a 654 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,400 known and a felt coalitions. That's what I remember, And 655 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,360 the sentiments did come the present sentiments I believe did 656 00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:29,920 stem from what goes on behind those walls in the 657 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,840 prison industrial complex. But they're certainly there now, and I 658 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,760 don't think we can, we can or should overlook how 659 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,480 significant they are, because you know, it's really I'm seeing 660 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:52,760 in the government structure. I'm seeing the anti blackness, particularly 661 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:58,039 from the Latino community, in particularly in law enforcement. 662 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do a whole show on that. Well, 663 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,679 turned Jaia personal and we're up against news, traffic and 664 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,760 sports here, and I know you're up against court, So 665 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,960 thank you so much for being with me this morning. Paul, 666 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,079 if you want to stay with you're invited to do so, 667 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,519 but we got to leave it here. Thank you so much. 668 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: Thank you Dominique, and thanks Paul. 669 00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: News, traffic and sports and and more only right here.