Speaker 1: Sam, what's up everyone, Can you guys hear us? Happy
Speaker 1: Thursday Thursday as we really like to call it around here,
Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. Tonight, We're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about a pretty interesting chapter in Florida history, not so
Speaker 1: distant history. But this is tonight with Kuan Teetur here,
Speaker 1: my co host. We're gonna be talking about the story
Speaker 1: of John Tetour, who was allegedly, you know, a self
Speaker 1: proclaimed time traveler from Florida who came back to Florida.
Speaker 1: I think Kwan's gonna fill us in on the specifics,
Speaker 1: but basically, a lot of people on YouTube have talked
Speaker 1: about this story. You know, these claims, this Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast radio, you know, thing that popped up on some blogs.
Speaker 1: This guy claimed to be from the future. And there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of claims he made. But one thing
Speaker 1: that we're going to focus on is he a crucial
Speaker 1: part of his mission to you know, come back to
Speaker 1: the future and save the world in some way was
Speaker 1: or sorry, go back to the past, was to get
Speaker 1: an IBM computer, an IBM five one hundred, five one hundred,
Speaker 1: and to take that back into the future because they
Speaker 1: really really needed one for something and then but yeah,
Speaker 1: so where many other YouTube channels have focused on kind
Speaker 1: of the veracity of his claims and dug into who
Speaker 1: he really was, what we're going to dive into is
Speaker 1: why IBM, why the computer, and especially how it pertains
Speaker 1: to Florida. For those who don't know, IBM has had
Speaker 1: multiple headquarters or at least regional headquarters in Florida, so
Speaker 1: they had a lot of operations in Tallahassee for a time,
Speaker 1: and then Boca Ratone, Florida, where I'm from. IBM largely
Speaker 1: put Boca Ratone on the map because the one of
Speaker 1: IBM's first personal computers was invented and produced from Boca Ratone, Florida.
Speaker 1: Boca Ratone is famous for some other things, but we're
Speaker 1: not just going to talk about Boca. And also, unlike
Speaker 1: many other YouTube channels, I've actually gone to that IBM
Speaker 1: headquarters in Boca Ratone. It's not an IBM building anymore,
Speaker 1: but that original building still stands and it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: In fact, if I just kind of put us away
Speaker 1: for a sec, you guys see that the thumbnail and
Speaker 1: the background for our video here on the left, that
Speaker 1: is an aerial shot of the IBM headquarters in Boca Raton, Florida. Now,
Speaker 1: what do you notice. It's shaped in a hexagon. You
Speaker 1: can also kind of make out a Masonic compass there
Speaker 1: if you really want to too. You also see some
Speaker 1: kind of twin symbolism. And I'm willing to bet that
Speaker 1: this whole structure is some type of malechia alert structure,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is the molecular structure of some element.
Speaker 1: But we're going to dive into all that stuff and
Speaker 1: a whole lot more. And another part of the whole
Speaker 1: story that pretty much no one's ever talked about is
Speaker 1: there was a news show. There was a news show
Speaker 1: that was held hostage in Florida in the eighties and
Speaker 1: this deranged gunman came in. It was a fake gun.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it in more depth. Held a news
Speaker 1: show hostage with a BB gun and made them read
Speaker 1: something on air about the CIA computers. You know this
Speaker 1: maybe some of this guy's fears about AI and lo
Speaker 1: and behold. Come to find out, this guy was the
Speaker 1: son of an IBM executive. And this all happened in Florida,
Speaker 1: So we're going to tie this all in together here.
Speaker 1: And that was a wordy introduction, but without further ado,
Speaker 1: Juan T. Tour, what's up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do what's uping. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: I know we've talked about the IBM headquarters a couple
Speaker 2: of times. I know we brought it up before in
Speaker 2: other episodes. Obviously, right, IBM. We have the Stanley kuber
Speaker 2: connection there too, that we can get into later on.
Speaker 2: We have some ties to Kubrick and a lot of
Speaker 2: the stuff how you were mentioning before we got on air,
Speaker 2: a lot of these myths and things. How much of
Speaker 2: it is intelligence?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: How much of it has been planted in society by
Speaker 2: these intelligence organizations, these three letter agencies?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And the John Teetor story is interesting because it's been debunked,
Speaker 2: and it was actually debunked by a guy that I
Speaker 2: had on the show at this point, probably a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago, Joseph Matheni, which we can get into
Speaker 2: later on. But I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about this John Teedor guy, and I have the original
Speaker 2: letters that he had sent into art Bell, which what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on him? Do you think he's maybe
Speaker 2: intelligence a little bit because at this point when he
Speaker 2: was when this popped off. He was asking people who
Speaker 2: were time travelers to write into the show, so he
Speaker 2: kind of played into it. And some people have speculated
Speaker 2: how much did he have to do with this whole thing?
Speaker 2: And it's a whole rabbit hole, I mean to this
Speaker 2: point till this day, it's people are still talking about
Speaker 2: like us and you don't really know if it's true
Speaker 2: or not, or like if it it's true for the
Speaker 2: people who want it to be true, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you believe in time travel.
Speaker 1: Bro, No, they're not in the physical body.
Speaker 2: You believe in more of like an astral realm sort
Speaker 2: of thing. Dimensional.
Speaker 1: I think we can get glimpses into the past and
Speaker 1: the future, like visions various means. Yeah, visions. That's what
Speaker 1: prophesying is.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: That's well, last week we were talking about John d
Speaker 1: and some angelic you know, information angelic conversations, and they
Speaker 1: they claimed that, oh, thanks for bringing up mister Mathene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joseph Mathene's.
Speaker 1: Pretty danglous to Medemi. Yeah, who we were talking about
Speaker 1: last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he's known for ARGs, which is a
Speaker 2: whole we'll get into it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, well I heard sorry to cut you
Speaker 1: off one, but I heard that the whole Metheni thing
Speaker 1: is not you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's not.
Speaker 1: Uh it's closed. Okay, it may be compelling, but I
Speaker 1: heard some people say that what he claims for the
Speaker 1: timelines don't quite add up because other people posting as
Speaker 1: we're out the timelines he said he was active.
Speaker 2: Oh, Bro, the the CI is cutting your your connection up.
Speaker 6: Hang on.
Speaker 2: Here, you're cutting up my audio?
Speaker 1: Is my audio messed up?
Speaker 2: Your feet is choppy and your audio is cutting in
Speaker 2: and out?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it better now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The the video is still a little fuzzy, but
Speaker 2: I can hear you better. Let me see I run
Speaker 2: and close some of those tabs, bro, But yeah, so Metheeni.
Speaker 2: I don't want to focus too much on the debunking,
Speaker 2: but I want to present both sides to where it's like,
Speaker 2: do you believe in all this stuff? At the end
Speaker 2: of the day, it's he said, she said. If something
Speaker 2: like this were to come out today, and you know
Speaker 2: this guy had pictures, he had a whole bunch of stuff,
Speaker 2: I would tell you it's AI right. I mean nowadays,
Speaker 2: even that article I sent you, bro, where I had
Speaker 2: brought up where people were experiencing tremors here in Florida,
Speaker 2: and there was earthquakes off the coast of Florida, and
Speaker 2: there's all these earthquakes and there was people commenting on
Speaker 2: it like, yeah, did you feel that here? And uh
Speaker 2: wherever it was new summer and a beach or whatever.
Speaker 2: I felt it too, Yes, this and that. And then
Speaker 2: when I looked into it it was AI slop and
Speaker 2: I felt for it again because I thought it was real,
Speaker 2: because I wanted to be real, right, Like a part
Speaker 2: of me wants it to be real. So when you
Speaker 2: get all these pictures nowadays that people fall for, you
Speaker 2: can dismiss it as especially nowadays with the technology as AI.
Speaker 2: But and this when this came out, which was I
Speaker 2: believe it was ninety eight, is when this came out,
Speaker 2: and I'll pull up here. The original facts is that
Speaker 2: he sent art Bell. He sent two different factss and
Speaker 2: this whole thing dives into a crazy story which we
Speaker 2: can get into. Let me make sure my screen here, all right.
Speaker 2: So these are the original facts is that he had
Speaker 2: sent in And this is on archive dot org because
Speaker 2: obviously this is really oldest from July twenty nine, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight. And there's also another website called johnteitor dot
Speaker 2: com which has absolutely everything. It's compalbast guy named Oliver,
Speaker 2: which I guess was a fan or a believer or
Speaker 2: some of the stuff. He doesn't believe others. But there's
Speaker 2: a whole thing if people want to dive deeper into it.
Speaker 2: But he goes dear R. Had had to facts when
Speaker 2: I heard other time travelers calling in from any time
Speaker 2: past the year twenty five hundred AD. Please let me explain.
Speaker 2: So this is important because twenty five hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: this guy had proposed some prophecies. Right, He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: the after twenty five hundred, there's nothing. The world has
Speaker 2: been completely demoled. There's nothing. When we go there, it's
Speaker 2: all black, right, So that's what's interesting about that. Please
Speaker 2: let me explain. Time travels was invented in twenty thirty
Speaker 2: four offshoots of certain successful fusion research. Reactor research allowed
Speaker 2: scientists at CERN to produce the world's first contained singularity engine.
Speaker 2: The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field.
Speaker 2: By altering the speed and direction of rotation, you can
Speaker 2: travel both forward and backward, and time time itself can
Speaker 2: be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go
Speaker 2: back in time, you travel on your original timeline. When
Speaker 2: you turn your Singularity engine off, a new timeline is
Speaker 2: created due to the fact that you and your time
Speaker 2: machine are now there. In other words, a new universe
Speaker 2: is created. So you talk about multi universe theory, right,
Speaker 2: multi timeline string theory, blah blahah, we can get into
Speaker 2: all that quantum mechanic stuff, which I don't understand and
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to understand. But essentially, the
Speaker 2: way he paints it is, if you look at a
Speaker 2: cone right, the cone is smaller on this end, bigger
Speaker 2: on this end, and the further in time that you travel,
Speaker 2: the bigger the variances can be. So if you travel
Speaker 2: a smaller amount of time right on that cone, the
Speaker 2: variance is going to be different. And the way he
Speaker 2: sets it up, he speaks about actual quantum mechanic theories
Speaker 2: that are real, which we'll mention when here soon, and
Speaker 2: he also talks about we'll get into it. So, in
Speaker 2: other words, a new universe is created. Do to get
Speaker 2: back to your original timeline, you must travel a split
Speaker 2: second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward
Speaker 2: without turning it off. And he kind of protects himself
Speaker 2: because at one point he says that there are variances
Speaker 2: two and a half percent variants, right, so because people
Speaker 2: were asking him like, hey, which.
Speaker 1: Two and a half two and a half inch variant?
Speaker 2: Yeah, two and a half inches, right, so to two
Speaker 2: and a half percent to two percent whatever. It was
Speaker 2: a variance between all different timelines because people were asking
Speaker 2: him like, hey, can you predict who won the super
Speaker 2: Bowl in X year? Because right, if you had, if
Speaker 2: you had a time machine, bro, you'd want to do
Speaker 2: what I mean, we've all seen back to the future.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, essentially brought that up on. Okay, if we're
Speaker 1: gonna call BS on the John Tetor story, it's pretty
Speaker 1: much just fucking back to the future and like Austin
Speaker 1: powers like time machine in the car, like slam it
Speaker 1: into you know, slam it into eight forward then reverse,
Speaker 1: and then that triggers it into the time machine. Like
Speaker 1: come on, that's let's BS, but keep going.
Speaker 2: Well, here's he gets into some things that are interesting. Okay,
Speaker 2: so some interesting outcomes of this area one you meet yourself.
Speaker 2: I have done it often even taken a younger version
Speaker 2: of myself along for a few rides before returning myself
Speaker 2: to a new timeline and going back to mind two.
Speaker 2: You can alter history in the new universe that you
Speaker 2: are that you have just created. Most of the time
Speaker 2: the changes are subtle. Sometimes I'll notice car models that
Speaker 2: don't exist, or books that come out late. The oldest
Speaker 2: one was a skyscraper that wasn't built in a near
Speaker 2: favorite store of mine in New York. Interestingly, when you
Speaker 2: travel in time, he must compensate for the orbit of
Speaker 2: the other eye, so he wasn't a flatter earther. Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: he wasn't a flatter earther. He talks about the orbit
Speaker 2: of the Earth. Since the time machine doesn't move, you
Speaker 2: have to adjust the engines so you remain on the
Speaker 2: planet when you turn it off. Unfortunately, was also discovered
Speaker 2: that anyone going forward in time from my twenty thirty
Speaker 2: six hit a brick wall on the year twenty five
Speaker 2: sixty four. So that's why it's interesting, he said. Everyone
Speaker 2: time travelers from the year after twenty five hundred, so
Speaker 2: they hit a brick wall at twenty five sixty four.
Speaker 2: Everyone who has ever been there has reported that nothing exists.
Speaker 2: When the machine is turned off, you find yourself surrounded
Speaker 2: by blackness and silence.
Speaker 1: Now, and that's and that's how John cut through all
Speaker 1: the all the other people calling in, you know, sending
Speaker 1: messages into coast to coast saying, oh, I'm from the
Speaker 1: year three thousand, and I'm from the year five thousand,
Speaker 1: and I'm from the year ten thousand and all this shit.
Speaker 1: And John t comes in. He's like, all you people
Speaker 1: after twenty five hundred are fucking faking He's like, and
Speaker 1: I know, because I'm from from the actual future.
Speaker 2: But now most time travelers are trying to find out
Speaker 2: where the line went bad by going into the past,
Speaker 2: creating a new universe, and proceeding forward to see if
Speaker 2: the same thing results. In twenty five sixty four, it
Speaker 2: appears the line went bad around the year two thousand, because,
Speaker 2: mind you, this is before the Y two K thing,
Speaker 2: and I think we've had there was a recent one
Speaker 2: that people were freaking out about. I don't remember. It
Speaker 2: was like a year ago some date that people said
Speaker 2: that the world was gonna end, and then obviously it came,
Speaker 2: It came and went, and nothing ever happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I remember twelve twelve twelve.
Speaker 2: Twelve twenty one. I think it was twelve twenty.
Speaker 1: One one twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve. That was another one, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People said that was like the rapture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which some people think it already happened. So it's
Speaker 2: like which camp are you in? Are you in the
Speaker 2: camp that believes it's coming or in the camp that
Speaker 2: it already happened. Right, So around the year two thousand,
Speaker 2: I'm here now in this time to test a few
Speaker 2: theories of mind before going forward. Now for the future,
Speaker 2: you might want to know about. One y two k
Speaker 2: is a disaster. Many people die on the highways when
Speaker 2: they freeze toe trying to get to warmer weather. Two
Speaker 2: the government tries to keep power by instituting martial law,
Speaker 2: but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring
Speaker 2: the power back up fail. Three. A power facility in
Speaker 2: Denver is able to restart itself, but it is mob
Speaker 2: by hundreds of thousands of people and destroyed. This convinces
Speaker 2: most that maybe we shouldn't bring the old system back up.
Speaker 2: So he's talking about prophecies, right, He's predicting events. Now,
Speaker 2: some people say that he did predict certain things that happen,
Speaker 2: for example, instituting martial law, right, the government overstepping its
Speaker 2: boundaries and all this stuff. Because he talked about also
Speaker 2: he was kind of anti establishment a little bit. He's like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're producing all these things. I'm going to
Speaker 2: these different timelines and seeing all this garbage that we're producing.
Speaker 2: People aren't appreciating all the information that they have access
Speaker 2: to at all times. You guys have books, you guys
Speaker 2: have all these things. Because mind you and his timeline
Speaker 2: behin after everything there was a nuclear holocaust, like there
Speaker 2: was there was nuclear war, and everything got destroyed and
Speaker 2: the United States was broken up into different sections and
Speaker 2: they're pretty much just you know, fending for themselves, right,
Speaker 2: So he kind he's kind of like on that thing.
Speaker 2: Like and it's almost like whenever there's like alien contact
Speaker 2: these that's like what do they tell you? They told
Speaker 2: us to get rid of our nuclear weapons, right, Like
Speaker 2: there's always like something along those lines of like you're
Speaker 2: gonna destroy yourselves, Like the Palladians told me that I
Speaker 2: you know, needed to do X, Y and Z. Right,
Speaker 2: It's always like some sort of that same message of
Speaker 2: be pure right, love one another, love and peace, give
Speaker 2: up your weapons and all this other of right, so
Speaker 2: where we bring back the old system for a few
Speaker 2: years later, communal government has developed. After the Constitution takes
Speaker 2: a few twists, China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest
Speaker 2: battle for their life, and Russia has covered a nuclear
Speaker 2: snow from their collapse reactors. All right, the reason I'm
Speaker 2: here now is because I believe nuclear weapons set off
Speaker 2: by Iraq in the Middle East war with Israel might
Speaker 2: have something to do with the damaged timeline. I will
Speaker 2: test that theory and get back to you. Please pray
Speaker 2: that we discover the reason why there's no apparent future
Speaker 2: after twenty five sixty four.
Speaker 1: So so, yeah, we don't need to read them all,
Speaker 1: but thank you Han. That was the first facts. And
Speaker 1: did he ever call in or Art just read those himself?
Speaker 2: So this is where it gets later on. He didn't,
Speaker 2: he never called in. But remember that lorn s guy
Speaker 2: that we found online, Yeah he calls it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he calls in allegedly with Tito's mom and he's kind
Speaker 2: of talking for her on the phone with Art Bell supposedly,
Speaker 2: and you can hear him like asking her questions. But
Speaker 2: then he answers back so much stuff that somebody couldn't
Speaker 2: have been able to tell you that. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: so did you see him before? Yeah, she says that
Speaker 2: she saw him, and you know there was all that.
Speaker 2: He just like goes on and I'm like, wait, anet
Speaker 2: you can't even hear like a voice in the background.
Speaker 2: So again it's it's a little weird. But Titor never
Speaker 2: like they never put a face on the name, and
Speaker 2: they don't even they don't even know if that's his
Speaker 2: real name. But allegedly when Lawrence had called in, Larry,
Speaker 2: the John Tetor of this timeline was eight years old
Speaker 2: allegedly right, because he exists in this timeline because he
Speaker 2: was born in ninety eight. But again he's on a
Speaker 2: different timeline. So it's it's it's a it's a bizarre story,
Speaker 2: and it's like how much of it do you want
Speaker 2: to go with that you want to believe? Because one
Speaker 2: of the things that's interesting, right, if we got into
Speaker 2: this here.
Speaker 1: Well here, let's real quick if I may, before we
Speaker 1: kind of tear away his his claims and his credibility
Speaker 1: too much. There are some claims he made that you know,
Speaker 1: his his prophecies really didn't come true. But some things
Speaker 1: something's he do that you know, he kind of couldn't
Speaker 1: known unless he had intimate knowledge of IBM computers. So
Speaker 1: one of his kind of first proofs that he didn't
Speaker 1: really use, but others kind of used to validate what
Speaker 1: he was saying was he needed an IBM five to
Speaker 1: one hundred because it had a special what was it?
Speaker 2: Because it could communicate with the mainframe and it was
Speaker 2: a something he called a legacy code. Which what's interesting
Speaker 2: about it is it was later confirmed by people who
Speaker 2: had worked on the IBM that the existence of this
Speaker 2: undocumented quote unquote ability to communicate with these mainframes, which
Speaker 2: is what they needed in the future. Allegedly it was
Speaker 2: later confirmed by engineers who worked on the fifty one
Speaker 2: hundred of this undocumented ability, and it's to emulate and
Speaker 2: translate quote from older IBM frames, which is the huge
Speaker 2: IBM computers, which essentially is what they needed in the future.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't again.
Speaker 1: Now, he made this claim about twenty five hundred, basically saying,
Speaker 1: you know, time travelers after twenty five hundred or two
Speaker 1: thy five hundred and sixty something like that, they're all fakers.
Speaker 1: Because there's no time after twenty five hundred. Well, he
Speaker 1: said something a little similar. Right there you can see
Speaker 1: about the year twenty thirty six and twenty thirty eight,
Speaker 1: So he kind of was on the money about this
Speaker 1: thing that's similar to Y two K where. Wow, because
Speaker 1: of the number of digits used to compute like global time,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how to word that
Speaker 1: that there's only thirty two digits and because of that,
Speaker 1: time will run out on many you know, computer systems,
Speaker 1: because of you know, the limited digits. So right there
Speaker 1: at the top you see the binary code, there's like
Speaker 1: thirty two.
Speaker 2: It's called the why. So they have it as why
Speaker 2: twenty thirty eight Y two K thirty eight Y two
Speaker 2: K thirty eight superbug, the epoc ellipse. I know about
Speaker 2: this one, dude, This is this is the neednew.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he was pretty close to accurately predicting that.
Speaker 1: But again, that's not something that a time traveler could
Speaker 1: only have known. That's something that someone who knew behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, intimately knew about computers, computer coding. They would
Speaker 1: have known that. Now, what else. One thing that gave
Speaker 1: John Teeter away that I think is pretty damning is
Speaker 1: He's been studied linguistically by many experts trying to you know,
Speaker 1: expose or identify him, and one thing that they noticed
Speaker 1: was his spelling of the word website appears to be
Speaker 1: a smoking gun. So he uses website with a space,
Speaker 1: no hyphen, not a single word spaced web space site.
Speaker 1: That's often what happens, and that's how they used to
Speaker 1: spell website in nineteen eighty or nineteen eighty seven or
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, you know, whenever, whenever John Teeter says
Speaker 1: whatever he contacts in nineteen ninety eight, right for the
Speaker 1: first time, and he uses website with a space. Now
Speaker 1: that shows that he had probably started using computers in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies or eighties or I don't know when
Speaker 1: the word website was invented, but the earlier a word
Speaker 1: comes into usage. When a word's created, oftentimes it's two
Speaker 1: existing words that are spaced apart, and then over time
Speaker 1: they get pushed together, or they'll get hyphenated and then
Speaker 1: pushed together. So website as a single word is what.
Speaker 2: So ninety two to ninety four, And mind you who
Speaker 2: created the World Wide Web CERN? Remember CERN created the Internet,
Speaker 2: and they had created it in order to quote unquote
Speaker 2: have scientists share information between one another. It was supposed
Speaker 2: to be a network within themselves to share information back
Speaker 2: and forth. So right www six sixty six, like we
Speaker 2: all we all talk about that, right, So.
Speaker 1: In the future right here, everyone says website. Single word.
Speaker 1: It's spelled website. So the evolution of the word over
Speaker 1: time was web space site, then sometimes web hyphenated site
Speaker 1: and and just the single word. Right. So the fact
Speaker 1: that John Teeter almost exclusively, if not exclusively, uses web
Speaker 1: space site shows that he had experience with computers early on,
Speaker 1: you know, in the early nineties or eighties, and stuck
Speaker 1: with the earlier like archaic spelling, even though he's claiming
Speaker 1: to be from the future. So if he's claiming to
Speaker 1: be from the future, he would have been using the
Speaker 1: future futuristic spelling and website. Now the copium that would
Speaker 1: come along with that would probably be oh well, in
Speaker 1: my timeline, we kept that original spelling because yes, with
Speaker 1: the NBS you can always kind of make your way
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 2: And you're breaking up again long ago yao, So there
Speaker 2: you're back now, but you were breaking up there pretty bad.
Speaker 2: How do I sound Yeah, your audio is fine when
Speaker 2: you're talking. It's just a connection, I think. Bro. Oh shit,
Speaker 2: the CIA is hard at work. Bro, they're trying to
Speaker 2: take you down. We can't talk about Tetor.
Speaker 1: That's all right. So okay, so there's you know, most
Speaker 1: of the evidence points to him not being an actual
Speaker 1: time traveler, but they haven't been able to us identify
Speaker 1: the real you know faker the guy pretending to be
Speaker 1: John Teacher with absolute certainty. So Juan mentioned this s
Speaker 1: METHENI guy who kind of takes credit like, you know,
Speaker 1: I am am I right one, he's the guy who says,
Speaker 1: oh I created that it was.
Speaker 2: That it was his idea. So he says it was
Speaker 2: a group of I believe three other people and that
Speaker 2: he that his idea behind the John Tetoor character is
Speaker 2: it's because it's based off of John Connor from The Terminator, right,
Speaker 2: And he says that it was actually three other people
Speaker 2: riding it for him that he had consulted, but he
Speaker 2: can't disclose who they were because they're too famous, right,
Speaker 2: So he it's kind of in the gray area.
Speaker 1: And okay, so listen, that kind of makes sense, the
Speaker 1: John Connor thing, because John, you know from John Connor. Yes,
Speaker 1: then T T Tour it's like all the terminators are
Speaker 1: t dash.
Speaker 2: They said it was an anagram. They said it was
Speaker 2: like time travel something or other. I forgot what Oliver
Speaker 2: had said, but he said it was like an anagram
Speaker 2: for something. It was time traveler ops or something like that,
Speaker 2: something along those lines. It's an anagram. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: the interesting part about it, right, So Joseph Metheeni, which
Speaker 2: I've had him on the show, and I had him
Speaker 2: the show because of something else. Because the Ong's Hat,
Speaker 2: which is an alternate reality game, it's an arg and
Speaker 2: what they want to do is kind of sort of
Speaker 2: bring forth this, uh what they call metafiction, where it's
Speaker 2: a story but you involve real life characters. But the
Speaker 2: problem with that is, dude, is that a lot of
Speaker 2: people in this world, in this reality, they start to
Speaker 2: identify with that, and they start to blend in with
Speaker 2: these concepts and these ideologies, and they take it for
Speaker 2: real and they're serious about this sort of stuff, and
Speaker 2: to the point where.
Speaker 1: Even they won't believe, they won't believe you and you
Speaker 1: tell them the tooth Fairy isn't real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they'd rather believe that it's actually a real
Speaker 2: thing than to believe it's not. And some people even
Speaker 2: were stalking Joseph Matheini for his Ong's hat because that
Speaker 2: was one of the that was one of the earliest conspiracies,
Speaker 2: and it also talked about time travel and alternate dimensions.
Speaker 2: So it and Joseph Athene's not just some regular Joe Schmoe. Like,
Speaker 2: this guy has multiple patents in technology. He was working
Speaker 2: with Adobe, he was working with like all these early
Speaker 2: computer companies in technology, so it would make sense that
Speaker 2: they had the knowledge of the technology as far as
Speaker 2: the quantum mechanics and everything. And then when you also
Speaker 2: play into into take into consideration the Lawrence connection where
Speaker 2: his brother is also a so Maury Haber.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's let's talk about the Habers. So, you know,
Speaker 1: putting Atheni to the side, most people point to the Habers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 1: The Habers are the most commonly proposed candidates for the
Speaker 1: real John Teeter, you know, the people claiming to be
Speaker 1: John Teeter. And the reason for that is one of
Speaker 1: them has, like his experienced in kind of patent.
Speaker 2: Law, entertainment law.
Speaker 1: He's an entertainment law. Okay, another one.
Speaker 2: He worked at Disney too for a long time.
Speaker 1: Another one had computer security experience, and I think the
Speaker 1: third one was linguistically like a perfect match for John
Speaker 1: Teeter's speaking style and typing style. Yeah, Maury allegedly according
Speaker 1: to you know, like forensic linguists, and there's been a
Speaker 1: couple who've who've looked at this stuff said Maury Haber
Speaker 1: was an exact match for or a near match, near
Speaker 1: exact match for John Teeters speaking style.
Speaker 2: He has more than twenty five years of IT industry experience.
Speaker 2: They call him a technical evangelist at the company. That's
Speaker 2: kind of weird, but yeah, this guy's in cybersecurity. So
Speaker 2: if anyone knew about technology and infrastry, ructure and things
Speaker 2: of that nature, it would be these So they kind
Speaker 2: of formed this conspiracy that Larry Haber took care of
Speaker 2: the business end of things, because they've even copyrighted John
Speaker 2: teetoor like it's a copyrighted time traveler. There's been books
Speaker 2: written about it, there was movies in the.
Speaker 1: World, you know, And they did they did a interview,
Speaker 1: a videoed interview, claiming to be in contact with John Teeter, saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: John Teeter's you know, he like we're he entrusted his state,
Speaker 1: his estate US and like we have his goodbye video,
Speaker 1: you know, we have the rights to his book, and
Speaker 1: so you know, they claim direct involvement. And what was
Speaker 1: it with the IP addresses? John Teeter claims to be
Speaker 1: from Tampa, but apparently his IP address was that him
Speaker 1: or was that one of the Haber's IP addresses?
Speaker 2: They had traced me? So they had hired a private
Speaker 2: investigator and the IP address they had traced it back,
Speaker 2: and it was Gill, an ip ID just connected to Teeter.
Speaker 2: Was Gill located to Kassimi, Florida. And then there was
Speaker 2: another one where was a PO box that they were
Speaker 2: receiving stuff at in Kassimi, Florida.
Speaker 1: So, and the Habers pretty much live in central Florida.
Speaker 2: No Altamont, Ultimont.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybetimate how close is that?
Speaker 2: It's like I forget, like thirty five minutes forty minute
Speaker 2: drive from where I'm at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but a lot a lot closer than Tampa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was good, I told you all. So when
Speaker 2: I when I got done downtown today, I wanted to
Speaker 2: go the opposite way on I four to go visit
Speaker 2: this guy. And I was going to go into his
Speaker 2: office and be like, Yo, what can you tell me?
Speaker 2: I'm here for John? Where's John att And I wanted
Speaker 2: him to give me the tapes and give me the everything.
Speaker 2: So I was tempted to bro, but I didn't because
Speaker 2: I had other things to do. But maybe next time
Speaker 2: I'm in the area, I'll pay Old Lawrence a visit
Speaker 2: and give him the old who do you work for?
Speaker 2: And see if I can get him to admit if
Speaker 2: if John Tetter was fake or not. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: the Habers, but no one has ever publicly come out
Speaker 2: and said like, hey we were the ones, or hey
Speaker 2: we weren't the ones. But yes, it is copyrighted. Somebody
Speaker 2: was making money and allegedly Larry Haber was hired by
Speaker 2: Titor's family for all this entertainment rights and things of
Speaker 2: that nature. There's even animes bro that are made based
Speaker 2: off of this story, Okay from two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: I believe it was, so they've incur This is like
Speaker 2: very popular in Meet at the moment, where so I
Speaker 2: hear Stein's Gate. It's an anime from two thousand and
Speaker 2: nine that apparently incorporates the John Teeter legend. And you
Speaker 2: know how many people have probably been exposed to that. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I was made into an anime in twenty eleven. So
Speaker 2: it was a Japanese anime television series produced by White Fox.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so again people are exposed to this. Where
Speaker 2: else is there a docu drama? Yeah pretty much, bro
Speaker 2: a docu drama which I wanted to check out and
Speaker 2: have time to And yeah, there's been various nods to
Speaker 2: the teeter and people are still talking about it even
Speaker 2: till this day because it is an interesting thing. Where
Speaker 2: could it be all fake? Right? Maybe? But it kind
Speaker 2: of makes you think. And obviously Art Bell really played
Speaker 2: into it hard because he was the he was the
Speaker 2: guy that kind of put out the call to have
Speaker 2: people reach out to him, and then how you're saying,
Speaker 2: he kind of shut the other people down, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, dude, after blah blah blah, there's nothing else,
Speaker 2: so automatically, all those other guys are out the door.
Speaker 2: I'm the real deal. And then he provided pictures which
Speaker 2: we can look at, and he provided schematics. Let me
Speaker 2: put them up here in one second.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're kind of weird. They kind of look like
Speaker 1: vaginal a little bit. If I well, you tell me,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just seeing stuff. But see, guys, well Juan's
Speaker 1: pulling that up. Get a good look at IBM headquarters
Speaker 1: in Boca Raton, Florida on the left.
Speaker 6: There, sorry the screen.
Speaker 2: So he provided schematics allegedly, right, and mind you, he
Speaker 2: was part of this, I don't want to call it.
Speaker 2: He was part of this team, these temporal forrail what
Speaker 2: they call it temporal something where they like their job
Speaker 2: was to go back in time and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: And so he provided these. So the Tipler Cinizoid field,
Speaker 2: which is an actual thing presented I believe in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four in regard to time travel and quantum mechanics.
Speaker 2: So it's a real concept. Mind you, he was bringing
Speaker 2: up real concepts. But that's part of an arg where
Speaker 2: you're taking real world things and mixing them into this
Speaker 2: metafictional story and then running with it. Okay, So that's
Speaker 2: part of the whole thing. So he's got this, and
Speaker 2: then he's got the schematics, and he's got a schematic
Speaker 2: here or a picture of it in a and I
Speaker 2: believe this is a corvette. And the reason that he
Speaker 2: had a corvette was because he says that whatever time
Speaker 2: he goes, so allegedly he had traveled too. I think
Speaker 2: it was either nineteen seventy four, nineteen seventy six, ninety eight,
Speaker 2: ninety nine, or ninety ninety two thousand, and then that
Speaker 2: was it, right, he was gone. But he had this
Speaker 2: corvette and people were like, hey, why, like why a corvette?
Speaker 2: And he said that what he tried to do well, right,
Speaker 2: like night Rider or something like that. He tried to
Speaker 2: blend into the times that he was going in. But
Speaker 2: then the issue was that when he went back further
Speaker 2: in time, the seventies corvette and the year two thousand
Speaker 2: was kind of rare. So he's like, oh, I got
Speaker 2: too much heat on me. Now I'm gonna buy like
Speaker 2: this four x four pickup, this Chevy pickup, so I
Speaker 2: blend in more. But the reason that he needs to
Speaker 2: have the machine in a vehicle is because it needs
Speaker 2: to be portable, right, which I guess, but you'd think
Speaker 2: that maybe they'd make it a little smaller, bro or
Speaker 2: at least make it into a backpack or something so
Speaker 2: you can at least wear it, Like, come on, you
Speaker 2: talk about the future, talk about the year twenty three
Speaker 2: whatever it was like, come on, right, like nowadays, the
Speaker 2: amount of information that we have on like a little
Speaker 2: you know, you can get gigabytes and micro sds or
Speaker 2: like our phones like one terabyte. Like that was unheard
Speaker 2: of back then, you know, when we were growing up.
Speaker 2: So it's like you're in the future. You don't think
Speaker 2: that they would advance that a little bit more. But
Speaker 2: a picture taken right here he's talking about a picture
Speaker 2: taking in the fall of twenty thirty five during my training,
Speaker 2: shows my instructor beaming a handheld laser outside the vehicle
Speaker 2: during operation.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like Ghostbusters level technology.
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of looks. It doesn't look AI,
Speaker 2: it looks real. Is it real? Props? Okay, I'll give
Speaker 2: him that.
Speaker 1: Hey, can we get an early life check on the
Speaker 1: Habers or in name origin on Haber? Oh gosh, time travel,
Speaker 1: I think we're.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: This ain't time travel, this is dime travel. Maybe now
Speaker 1: we're talking Oh the show?
Speaker 2: Where's my button?
Speaker 1: Illuminati confirmed?
Speaker 2: It's too late now, dude, but it's here, Illuminati confer go.
Speaker 2: It's been so long since I've used the sound word.
Speaker 2: But I don't know where anything is at. But yeah,
Speaker 2: confirmed in German and ASKNISI okay, all right, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's a good guy, bro, but whatever.
Speaker 1: Caressn't there's someone named Stern involved with.
Speaker 2: Stern. Stern doesn't ring a bell? Oh another.
Speaker 1: Dana Lee Stern. Okay, look this up, Dana Lee Stern.
Speaker 1: This guy search Dana Lee Stern.
Speaker 2: Day, Dana Lee Stern and the tudor up who is this?
Speaker 1: And then and then keyword search teeter after that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, this guy.
Speaker 1: So Dana Lee Stern. And also, you know, can we
Speaker 1: get a early life check on Stern or name origin
Speaker 1: check on Stern?
Speaker 2: You don't want to tell me that one.
Speaker 1: This guy's yeah, this guy's claiming.
Speaker 2: What oh what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, hold on on, hold on, bro, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on. Where did you get this guy from?
Speaker 1: I was just learning about John Tetor earlier?
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: The identity of this second public titor is believed to
Speaker 2: be Dana Lee Stern Senior, a man with a notable
Speaker 2: criminal record, a pile of aliases, and who claims his
Speaker 2: own son injected Windex into his brother's brain as a
Speaker 2: child to give him cancer. What jesus? Oh? Okay? Pamela
Speaker 2: is another one that allegedly was close to Titor that
Speaker 2: had had a dream of a man that was time
Speaker 2: traveling or something or other and then she found him
Speaker 2: on the forums and decided to reach out, right, so
Speaker 2: we have another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but uh, this Pamela lady was the only
Speaker 1: person that John Teeter ever like dedicated messages too, and
Speaker 1: wrote a goodbye message to like, oh, thank you, pam
Speaker 1: You know you did so much for me, like almost
Speaker 1: said like I couldn't have made it back to the
Speaker 1: future without you. And yoh, Teter was trying to smash
Speaker 1: bro you know, Titter was trying to smash.
Speaker 2: Some it's some time traveling poon alright, so was exposed
Speaker 2: via the John. In December twenty sixteen, John Teter's tread
Speaker 2: and Dana Lee Stern Senior was exposed via YouTube. When
Speaker 2: his tread and it was confirmed as Daily Stern Senior,
Speaker 2: he was blacklisted from popular media and book sales dropped
Speaker 2: to nothing due to day and his misrepresentation and fraud.
Speaker 2: The book contract and book sales were dissolved. What is this?
Speaker 2: Jason Quit, writer and dimensional energy healer in a post
Speaker 2: on his website. So these are all posts and stuff
Speaker 2: about this guy. I guess. Let me, let's look it
Speaker 2: up on the actual main page. That doesn't come up
Speaker 2: on his main page though. Interesting, So I hadn't add
Speaker 2: didn't see this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because I go a little bit deeper than Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: Hey, I went deeper Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: To teach after teacher how to do that one.
Speaker 2: Wikipedia is good for to pull up on stream to
Speaker 2: look at Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Know, I agree, I agree. Yeah, to familiarize the audience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something something they haven't heard of.
Speaker 2: But you gotta yeah, you gotta go in.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he talked about another So let's talk about the
Speaker 2: stuff they had prophesized a little bit, which we didn't
Speaker 2: talk about it that much.
Speaker 7: But.
Speaker 2: The the stuff that he had talked about, as far
Speaker 2: as like the government overreaching and enacting martial law. Mind you,
Speaker 2: this was pre two thousand and one, So what happened
Speaker 2: post two thousand and one, like one one of the
Speaker 2: biggest overreaches of the government, right to put their hand
Speaker 2: in everything. They had a reason to put their hand
Speaker 2: in everything because of what had happened right like one
Speaker 2: year later, Yeah, yeah, exactly. And and mind you, there's
Speaker 2: a two percent variant, so things could have changed a
Speaker 2: little bit, right, could have been sooner, could have been later,
Speaker 2: and this timeline it was this time, and this other
Speaker 2: timeline was so he's protecting himself as far as like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, so the US government overreach and if you
Speaker 2: look at things now, I was, I was, I think
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was watching. I was watching. I
Speaker 2: think it might have been a video of someone talking
Speaker 2: about Joe Rogan and one of the guys that he
Speaker 2: had on, which was this founder of this company, this
Speaker 2: AI company that lets law enforcement tap into all the
Speaker 2: camera systems everywhere. Have you ever heard about that, where
Speaker 2: they can like track your real time and the AI
Speaker 2: recognize people's yes, exact flock. So he had this guy
Speaker 2: on and they were talking about why it was good
Speaker 2: to keep these systems implemented of like, hey, think about
Speaker 2: all the crime that's being stopped right because of our
Speaker 2: systems in play. And then there was a report that
Speaker 2: was like the AI reported false gunshots like nine out
Speaker 2: of ten times, like it would hear something, it would
Speaker 2: call the police, so like and the mean time isn't
Speaker 2: Like that's what the AI is for, to prevent false
Speaker 2: alarms and know when it was a real gunshot versus
Speaker 2: when it's not because the cops are going out there
Speaker 2: or wasting resources and taxes and everything. The cops are
Speaker 2: going out there, and it turned out, oh the AI
Speaker 2: was best up dude, Sorry about that, right, So there
Speaker 2: is in these companies. They all work with the government,
Speaker 2: and the way that they do it, they do it
Speaker 2: all the time. Dude. When when Lifelog went offline, Facebook
Speaker 2: came up the next day, literally the next day if
Speaker 2: you look up the history of lifelog and lifelog was
Speaker 2: what a DARPA government operation to do, what to collect
Speaker 2: information on people? So the government now uses all these
Speaker 2: shell companies. Like I was gonna say, X, like, what
Speaker 2: the hell's the elon musk companies?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: They like they use all these corporations to kind of
Speaker 2: step in for them, and that way they wash their
Speaker 2: hands clean, Like, hey, that's a private entity, you know,
Speaker 2: palentteers led by X y Z. Go blame him, Go
Speaker 2: blame that lizard person over there, and don't look at
Speaker 2: us but me. But in the meantime, they're pulling the
Speaker 2: strings behind the scenes and just using these corporations as
Speaker 2: as puppets essentially for themselves. Right.
Speaker 1: So well, let's look at IBM for a sec You know,
Speaker 1: why was he talking about the IBM five one hundred.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's strange, it's weird. IBM okay, very
Speaker 1: interesting company corporation IBM. I think starting in the sixties.
Speaker 1: See search when did IBM move to Foca? When we did,
Speaker 1: I'll search it.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: So nineteen seventy six, nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, a small team in Boca developed and
Speaker 1: launched the original IBM personal computer model fifty one fifty
Speaker 1: And again that is this strange place on on the
Speaker 1: back on the left here that almost owl looking, you know,
Speaker 1: arrangement of the buildings.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that we didn't mention on
Speaker 2: our last episode, but I saw people commenting that's important
Speaker 2: to talk about, is right. Computer chips, quarts, crystals, things
Speaker 2: of that nature. The things that the magician of the
Speaker 2: old times would use during their seances are like John
Speaker 2: d and all these other guys are the things that
Speaker 2: are in our computers nowadays. And if you look at
Speaker 2: like a sigil and a computer board, you can kind
Speaker 2: of see the resemblance of like the occult mixtan with
Speaker 2: the technology. The father of the modern day computer charals
Speaker 2: Babbage try to summon the devil as a kid, right
Speaker 2: like he tried to prove the existence of God.
Speaker 1: Oh also, real quick, when I just remembered when John Teter,
Speaker 1: John Teeter claimed that he needed a fifty one hundred
Speaker 1: or five to one hundred computer. But either him or
Speaker 1: Pamela in some of those pictures, you you should he
Speaker 1: does end up showing a picture, but it was actually
Speaker 1: a five one one zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a discrepancy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, Yeah, so five one one zero instead of
Speaker 1: five to one five zero. But what that shows us
Speaker 1: is maybe he you know, I was just looking for
Speaker 1: something close to that, you know, the five to one series,
Speaker 1: right like five to one one zero five one.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was all fake to begin with long ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean, if they were talking about they
Speaker 1: wouldn't let that slip through.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think they're trying to pass that
Speaker 1: as proof. I don't think they're saying, oh, look, here's
Speaker 1: the computer that's clearly different than that computer on the left,
Speaker 1: five to one one zero that has the big monitor
Speaker 1: and the big top to it. The other one's flat
Speaker 1: with a tiny monitor. Whatever doesn't matter, So IBM has
Speaker 1: been in Florida since nineteen sixty or Boca Ratone since
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: They're completely different, bro. By the way, look at this,
Speaker 2: that's the that's the fifty one hundred exactly, and then
Speaker 2: that's the the computer that he had shown, right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, two percent difference in our timeline. Let's
Speaker 2: just write it off to the two percent alternate timeline theory.
Speaker 2: Right there. Nothing to see here, uh. I.
Speaker 1: DM was also in Tallahassee in the mid eighties. But
Speaker 1: can we go to IBM Wikipedia real quick, just to
Speaker 1: learn a whotle bit of history?
Speaker 2: Oh Wikipedia, dude, are you sure about that? We gotta
Speaker 2: dig deeper?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, so I'm I be uh you want
Speaker 1: to take another? Take another spipe one?
Speaker 2: You started it? Brownout me. I don't know. It's not
Speaker 2: deep enough, dude, It's it's just a Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: Juan's cortisol spiking over. Oh over the Wikipedia allegation.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, but I'm just gonna do a
Speaker 2: presentation next time. Dude.
Speaker 1: Have you heard that IBM apparently counted the number of
Speaker 1: dead prisoners in the Holocaust? Have you heard about that
Speaker 1: no search search IBM Holocaust and we're doing this with
Speaker 1: all due respect and reverence.
Speaker 2: We're not denying anything, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just trying to understand IBM.
Speaker 2: Here my goodness, all right, what okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: So come on man, all right, okay, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 8: hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: You can abbreviate things, can we Let's.
Speaker 2: Take this off the screen though, yo, and shout out
Speaker 2: to five leaf Clover for the five membership. Appreciate you, bro, Yo,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. So relationship with Germany according to Black,
Speaker 2: so this is a book, by the way, that was
Speaker 2: published in two thousand and one, IBM and the Holocaust
Speaker 2: a strategic alliance between and Germany and America's most powerful corporation. Okay,
Speaker 2: so the relationship with and Germany. According to Black, IBM
Speaker 2: maintained business ties with the en regime after Adolph took
Speaker 2: power in January nineteen thirty three. Repression of political opponents
Speaker 2: and Jews began immediately. By April, about sixty thousand had
Speaker 2: been in prisoned. A concentration campus open at that chaw
Speaker 2: In March nineteen thirty three, day dakkuw Yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: it's not Japanese yad cow. Despite international boycott calls. IBM
Speaker 2: continued to operate in Germany, and Heindeinger openly supported the
Speaker 2: new government.
Speaker 1: Doesn't know how to pronounce all the camps.
Speaker 2: Rookie mistake, bro. So let's see here the funds. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting into what the what they actually did though,
Speaker 2: so didn't Well.
Speaker 1: They apparently created like the tab like the the numbering
Speaker 1: system to like count all the prisoners and then apparently
Speaker 1: they like lost all the records at the end or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, so right here, So committed by Germany
Speaker 2: by facilitating regime's generation and tabulation of punch cards for
Speaker 2: national census data, military logistics, ghetto statistics, train traffic management,
Speaker 2: and concentration can't compact. So they were running the numbers
Speaker 2: for them, Bro, they were the guy behind the numbers,
Speaker 2: and they were they were doing their thing. It wasn't
Speaker 2: Welch Welch's and Volkswagen also, like well, Volkswagen's German. But
Speaker 2: wasn't there something else like companies like that too that
Speaker 2: had assisted.
Speaker 1: Tons tons of companies. So you know, if I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics on this. But Ford had
Speaker 1: been doing business in Germany wanted to keep doing business
Speaker 1: in Germany, and in order to keep doing business, created
Speaker 1: like a shell company, which I believe evolved into Volkswagen.
Speaker 1: So that's you know, Volkswagen means the people's car, you know,
Speaker 1: car for the people, like uh or person car right here.
Speaker 2: Newly just this is from two thousand and two. By
Speaker 2: the way, this is twenty four years old. Newly discovered
Speaker 2: documents from Germany proved that the computer company IBM directly
Speaker 2: supplied the the N words with technology which you to
Speaker 2: transport millions of people, not those N words but the
Speaker 2: other ones from nineteen forty uh whatever, uh, millions of
Speaker 2: people to their deaths in concentration camps at all switch.
Speaker 2: I'm got to say that, one dude, all switch Treblinka
Speaker 2: a controvert, I'll switch. Yeah, what is?
Speaker 6: What does?
Speaker 1: What did Jeffer?
Speaker 2: No, don't do it.
Speaker 1: What did the Rabbi say when he spilt his pistromi sandwich?
Speaker 1: When he spiled his uh? You know, what did the
Speaker 1: Rabbi say when he spilt his filter fish?
Speaker 2: One of the first episodes, one of the first episodes
Speaker 2: I ever did, Like when I first got into this
Speaker 2: space of like conspiracies and all this other stuff. One
Speaker 2: of the first episodes I ever did that I never aired, Okay,
Speaker 2: was with a hardcore denier like this dude, bro when
Speaker 2: from zero to one hundred real quick on the podcast,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, like you know, I was
Speaker 2: new to that. I wasn't like I was brainwashed, right,
Speaker 2: and this guy just went and I was like, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, there's people who actually don't believe in that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe something happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I get it. We all remember our first conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Could it be skewed a little bit? I don't know
Speaker 2: about seven million?
Speaker 1: Oh, think about this, Think about this. Here's what's interesting
Speaker 1: and what we know for a fact, you know, uh
Speaker 1: n word. Germany back in the thirties and forties, they
Speaker 1: had all these genius scientists working for them, making rocks, missiles,
Speaker 1: jet propulsion, secret stuff. And then Operation paper Clip, which
Speaker 1: was long thought to be a hoax, you know, fake,
Speaker 1: turns out to be real, uh broject. We moved many
Speaker 1: many people over from the Third Reich to America, oftentimes
Speaker 1: with new identities. Now that happened. Yeah, Werner von Braun,
Speaker 1: he went to America, worked for NASA. There are also
Speaker 1: a lot of other people like that. There were even
Speaker 1: people in the American military who would fight in Vietnam
Speaker 1: who had been in the SS and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: There's even people did you know that there were actually
Speaker 1: people in the IDF, the Israeli military who were in
Speaker 1: the German military in World War Two? I believe it's true.
Speaker 1: They they didn't care who the talent was coming from.
Speaker 1: They wanted the talent, you know, the expertise. Could it
Speaker 1: now tell me this? Why is it that IBM, perhaps
Speaker 1: you know, being affiliated with the Third Reich Germany and
Speaker 1: World War Two, of all places, why would they move
Speaker 1: to Boca Raton, Florida. Why would they have a headquarter
Speaker 1: in Boca Ratone, Florida, which is with the exception of
Speaker 1: like certain places in you know, the Northeast where there's
Speaker 1: like whole towns of Jewish people, Boca Raton, Florida is
Speaker 1: like historically the most Jewish you know, town in America
Speaker 1: and or one of them. And so for IBM to
Speaker 1: have kind of that checkered past and then to relocate
Speaker 1: or to locate themselves to Boca Ratona is kind of
Speaker 1: a weird juxtaposition, you know. But let's uh, let's learn
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the IBM headquarters at Boca Ratone.
Speaker 1: So they started moving people down in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: And let's look at the building real quick. IBM Boca Ratone.
Speaker 1: You searched that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to pull it up Bulka or its
Speaker 2: own historical society. Broa, this is when there was first
Speaker 2: building it. Yeah, all good pictures, all right, give one, sir.
Speaker 2: I don't know why these are so small.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, basically this place is like nuke proof. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can just here. Let's go to the uh, we'll
Speaker 1: just go to maps. Give me one, sick.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find uh information about
Speaker 2: the act actual building in Boca Art's home.
Speaker 1: All right, can you see my screen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I were in Mexico. It's called the Innovation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know scope. I'm gonna no scope it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, Bro, Yeah you're not. You
Speaker 2: don't gotta like that.
Speaker 1: Bro, this is my hometown.
Speaker 2: Damn, the mouth of the rat Boca Ratone. What a
Speaker 2: what a name, dude? So develop in nineteen sixty Oh
Speaker 2: it's a school. Now ooh, let's look up the architect
Speaker 2: that built it. Bro designed. Here we go. Let's that's
Speaker 2: that's legging a little bit deeper than Wikipedia. Let's go
Speaker 2: a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you've heard that before. Huh.
Speaker 2: Can we go deeper? And I'm all out of conspiracies?
Speaker 2: All right? Here we go find.
Speaker 1: Ship my my fucking maps. Just just uh ros what
Speaker 1: do they call this?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Brick? They called this the brick the Yeah, because they're
Speaker 1: all bricked up in there. One second, bogerratone Innovation Campus
Speaker 1: the brick, the bricked facility.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, somebody brought up the idea of the
Speaker 2: mouth being a portal where you got Boca Raton. Where
Speaker 2: was el portal? Is that by Boca or is that
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 1: That's like Miami, that's like northwest Miami kind of it's
Speaker 1: like a suburb just outside downtown. Okay, do you guys
Speaker 1: see this? What the hell is this?
Speaker 2: What the hell is even there?
Speaker 1: Daddy, chill?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna pull up after you're down there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: Kind of looks like certain, doesn't it. Look at this
Speaker 1: arrangement in the center with the with this drainage pond
Speaker 1: or whatever, this perfectly circular pond in the middle, and
Speaker 1: then you see like the Masonic compass around that. We
Speaker 1: see this kind of like twin structure. Looks like two kids, right,
Speaker 1: looks like the two kids in the Shining, almost the
Speaker 1: two twins in the shining. Is that a stretch, huge stretch. Well,
Speaker 1: we've got to segue into Stanley Kubrick somehow at some
Speaker 1: point in this show. Now, what do we know about
Speaker 1: the hexagon? One? Saturn? The hexagon? Can you search up
Speaker 1: Saturn's north pole please?
Speaker 2: Yes, Saturn North We're gonna go there, dude, We're gonna
Speaker 2: go on that conspiracy route the Cube. I'll talk about
Speaker 2: the Cube worship. Bro, Here we go, Here we go,
Speaker 2: skits so posting here, okay boom.
Speaker 1: Saturn has a hexagon on its north pole and people
Speaker 1: might say, oh, well that's NASA's fake planets. You know, well,
Speaker 1: whoever came up with the fake planets decided it would
Speaker 1: be worth putting a hexagon on Saturn. Not a septagon
Speaker 1: or heptagon or you know whatever. Not a pentagon, not
Speaker 1: a pentagram.
Speaker 2: We are you? Are you? You're a flat Earth? Are you?
Speaker 1: Yes? Sir?
Speaker 2: What do you think the planets are?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: Florida, You're gonna tell me the Earth isn't flat in Florida.
Speaker 2: Listen, dude, what are the planets?
Speaker 1: Just answer the question, M what are the planets? How
Speaker 1: about this? Why would you assume that they're made of
Speaker 1: earth and rock just like what we're standing on. What
Speaker 1: similarity is there between what we're standing on and what
Speaker 1: you see up in the sky.
Speaker 2: No, I've heard that before. You can't determine the shape
Speaker 2: of what's in the sky based on where you're at.
Speaker 2: What do you think the planets are?
Speaker 1: I think they're beacons of light. I think there begons
Speaker 1: in the truest sense of the word, like a light
Speaker 1: that is not it's not We're not restricting things to
Speaker 1: these little lights. But those lights represent much greater concepts
Speaker 1: and maybe even intelligences, influences. So you know, God, as
Speaker 1: I've said before, God doesn't have his his little you know,
Speaker 1: fingers where He reaches down and moves things in a
Speaker 1: physical sense down here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: The way I see it, as God has his lights.
Speaker 1: They twinkle, they sing, their so no luminescence involved. And
Speaker 1: basically the lights up in the sky, especially the planets,
Speaker 1: they are like God's fingers. People say, oh, there's you
Speaker 1: know seven planets. Well there's actually five planets, five wandering stars,
Speaker 1: and there's two luminaries, so Sun, Moon and then five
Speaker 1: wandering stars Mercury, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Sun and the
Speaker 1: Moon also sometimes called planets, but that's pretty nice. You
Speaker 1: have five wandering stars for each of the fingers. You
Speaker 1: even see certain alchemical and like hermetic diagrams, you see
Speaker 1: the planets associated with each finger. I think God has
Speaker 1: more subtle influence, and it's almost like a three D
Speaker 1: printer where what's down here is getting created every second,
Speaker 1: and what's creating is up there. There's these lights, these lasers,
Speaker 1: you know, this this machine noise coming out from the sky.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a three D printer. It's also
Speaker 1: like the stage lights, where things only happen if there's light.
Speaker 1: It's like if a bear shits in the woods, you know,
Speaker 1: it does a you know, if a tree falls in
Speaker 1: the woods, you know, and there's no one around to
Speaker 1: hear it, you know. Kind of in line with that principle.
Speaker 1: This is also like a stage. The world's a stage,
Speaker 1: as many people have said, and the the stage lights
Speaker 1: are what are what give like dimension and color and
Speaker 1: everything to what's occurring down here, So some mix between
Speaker 1: a stage with stage lights a three D printer. The
Speaker 1: planets are are functioning kind of like that. The planets
Speaker 1: are not rocks. The moon might be. The moon is
Speaker 1: probably the densest object up in the head Evans. It
Speaker 1: looks that way, but it's not solid rock. You can't
Speaker 1: just land on it. But as far as the wandering stars,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what you think.
Speaker 1: Right, because because it's not going to be very.
Speaker 2: Interesting, doesn't matter what I think.
Speaker 1: It's going to be pretty much exactly what Neil Neil
Speaker 1: de Greasy.
Speaker 2: It's all fake. It's all fake and it's all gay.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter what we think because that's all
Speaker 2: it is. Okay. Yeah, anyways, back to the top of
Speaker 2: good Hand. We have the cube on the north pole
Speaker 2: of Saturn. Saturn is the sixth planet from the Sun.
Speaker 2: A cube is a six sided shape. You have six
Speaker 2: six six Satan And then have you ever heard the
Speaker 2: sounds from space? I don't even believe in space, but
Speaker 2: have you ever heard the screams?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like the recording of saturns and all is it's like
Speaker 1: horrendous agony.
Speaker 2: Yes, so they according to So I've had Nick Hinton
Speaker 2: on the show, and he's one of the first ones
Speaker 2: to expose me to this particular thing way back when,
Speaker 2: like five years ago. They The way he talked about
Speaker 2: it is that there's you know, you have cimatics and
Speaker 2: things of this nature, and there's this idea that simatics
Speaker 2: and the frequency and the vibrations on Saturn or whatever
Speaker 2: are causing this shape. Right, and then he gets into
Speaker 2: other weird stuff where he believes that that cern is
Speaker 2: like beaming up frequencies to Saturn. You know, it gets
Speaker 2: all crazy, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember Saturn is Satan, Yes, Saturn is Satan. And Santa,
Speaker 1: you know, the old man in the North, the king
Speaker 1: of the Winter, the king of the frozen you know,
Speaker 1: frozen land. Yeah, the North Pole. You know why is
Speaker 1: Saturn on? Why Santa at the North Pole? Well, Saturn
Speaker 1: is you know, pretty well known for his North Pole
Speaker 1: and the hexagon. Yep, you see they're the cube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it gets into the Cube Warship, where there's
Speaker 2: cubes everywhere, including on the nine to eleven memorial.
Speaker 1: Tell me this cube.
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1: Hab cube Caaba Kaba la dualla cube cabakabaala the cube.
Speaker 1: The kaba is a cube, and when we're working with
Speaker 1: these numbers and their meaning, that brings us into Kabbala.
Speaker 1: So all right, and to your point, Juan, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite quotes about astrology is if Jupiter were the
Speaker 1: only planet in the sky, and kind would have no problems,
Speaker 1: no struggle, no nothing, just live in paradise forever and
Speaker 1: live forever, no no negativity, no disease, no death, just
Speaker 1: perfect life paradise. But that's clearly not what God had
Speaker 1: in store in you know, the Grand pland so the
Speaker 1: other planets are there to kind of add decay. Saturn
Speaker 1: primarily is the influence of time. Decay, things corrode and
Speaker 1: corrupt over time. That's Saturn's influence. You know. Venus is
Speaker 1: like Lucifer. Saturn is Satan. I don't want to step
Speaker 1: on anyone's toes, but Jesus is very much identifiable with Jupiter,
Speaker 1: the good one, the wise one, the righteous one. Jupiter
Speaker 1: and Hebrew is a sadicek where we also get in
Speaker 1: the Bible, uh the word sadik, which means wise one,
Speaker 1: righteous one, you know, like the chosen people. If you
Speaker 1: ever hear people say oh, they all right, So Jupiter
Speaker 1: is kind of the good guy. Saturn is the bad
Speaker 1: guy in astrology, and so now we have a familiar
Speaker 1: familiarized ourselves with that a little bit. The hexagon is
Speaker 1: like the seal of Saturn. It's not the star of David.
Speaker 1: This is not an ancient symbol of Judaism. It is
Speaker 1: the probably the star of Rampam or.
Speaker 2: Uh, excuse my ignorance. But what's the little cube for? Oh,
Speaker 2: you can't see it screen on the forehead. What is
Speaker 2: the little cube?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, inside of that little cube there are small verses,
Speaker 1: like written verses from the Torah. And they put that
Speaker 1: in the box and they strap it to their forehead
Speaker 1: because at one point in the Old Testament and they've
Speaker 1: largely they've like they've expounded on it and kind of
Speaker 1: explained it.
Speaker 2: But they trace it back to shout Out.
Speaker 1: They trace it back to They trace it back.
Speaker 2: To you remember that episode, bro, Damn, they were there,
Speaker 2: they know so savage.
Speaker 1: They trace it back to this commandment from God saying
Speaker 1: always keep the Torah on your mind, like always keep
Speaker 1: it on your mind, like you know, also like when
Speaker 1: they say, you know, keep the ten commandments or one
Speaker 1: of God's names on your door post, so every time
Speaker 1: you walk by, you're reminded. You know, it keeps it
Speaker 1: on your mind. But just to kind of illustrate how
Speaker 1: hyper literal Judaism can be, sometimes they, you know, where
Speaker 1: the commandment says always keep the Torah on your mind
Speaker 1: and close to your heart, they literally strap it to
Speaker 1: their head and strap it to their heart, the little
Speaker 1: pieces of the Torah, so that they're hyper literally fulfilling
Speaker 1: that commandment.
Speaker 2: Where is it when they don't have it on their
Speaker 2: head or their heart? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Search search tethyllin t e f.
Speaker 2: I l l I t e f I l l I.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 1: This is like that BDSM wrap that that they that
Speaker 1: they wear toy story like. It's like the.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, no, that's photo. There's no way it's photoshower.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might not be, but they the
Speaker 1: origin of this is originally a commandment to keep the
Speaker 1: Torah on their mind and close to their heart. So
Speaker 1: they that there's a box that they tie on the
Speaker 1: left arm that's very close to the heart, you know,
Speaker 1: so when they close close their armpit, it's pretty much
Speaker 1: touching their heart. And then they strap strap it to
Speaker 1: their head. And you know, this really encapsulates a lot
Speaker 1: of their their philosophy and how they interpret the Torah,
Speaker 1: how they interpret God's laws. And you know, they know
Speaker 1: they kind of can't change God's word too much, but
Speaker 1: by interpreting it in a hyper literal sense, they can
Speaker 1: check off the box even if they maybe haven't captured
Speaker 1: the essence of that commandment. For example, what that's trying
Speaker 1: to tell you is to always keep it on your mind.
Speaker 1: You know, with everything you do throughout the day, keep
Speaker 1: God's word close to your decision making, right, don't just
Speaker 1: leave it for when you get home and you crack
Speaker 1: open your dusty Bible. Then you start thinking about this stuff.
Speaker 1: Let it be in your mind throughout the whole process
Speaker 1: of your day. When you're conducting business, the Torah is
Speaker 1: on your mind. You know, God's good word is guiding you. Instead,
Speaker 1: they appoint certain times in the day where they're going
Speaker 1: to literally strap it to their head and then say,
Speaker 1: all right, I kept it close to my mind. Now
Speaker 1: I can go back to kind of not thinking about it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: So, with all due respect, Christians differ in the way
Speaker 1: they interpret those original scriptures and things like the Talmud,
Speaker 1: you know, missiona Gamara, Like all these things that are
Speaker 1: not the Christian Old Testament are essentially dare I say,
Speaker 1: coping mechanisms, and they are interpretations of well it says this,
Speaker 1: but this is what it means, you know, this is
Speaker 1: how we're really going to interpret that.
Speaker 2: So whatever, could you want to get into the cube
Speaker 2: brick the.
Speaker 1: Cube cubrick that's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good, or hold on, it's uh did we finish the
Speaker 2: vocal re tone facility one? Because I have the guy that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a lot of good documentaries or
Speaker 1: like little old videos about the people who worked for
Speaker 1: IBM and they talk about interesting little codes and secrets
Speaker 1: and pranks that they play on each other that ended
Speaker 1: up getting cemented into like the final product. For example,
Speaker 1: like control all Delete was invented at that Boca Ratone.
Speaker 2: And that's like a meme now, right like in society control.
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, so control all Delete was invented there. Also,
Speaker 1: the I believe the arrangement of our keyboard, like the
Speaker 1: common keyboard I believe was uh, I could be wrong
Speaker 1: on that was developed at that IBM in Boca Ratone.
Speaker 1: Well also and because when you go there they have
Speaker 1: like a courtyard where the tiles on the floor are
Speaker 1: a keyboard. It's like painted like a keyboard, so you're
Speaker 1: stepping on like a keyboard patio.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the this is the architect Marcel Brier, I
Speaker 2: think it's his name. And it's interesting because he designed
Speaker 2: the Wastly chair and the Sessca chair. The New York
Speaker 2: Times called it some of the most important chairs of
Speaker 2: the twentieth century.
Speaker 1: Whoa wan, that is fucking riveting.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure there's something to it. Oh wait
Speaker 2: a minute, was this commonly known Brewer was born Hungry
Speaker 2: to a Jewish fan whoa there? He is right here.
Speaker 2: He's a Jewish family. He was forced to renounce his
Speaker 2: faith in order to marry due to anti semit accept it.
Speaker 1: So he designed so he designed the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, designed by iconic Marcel, which she
Speaker 2: was born into a.
Speaker 1: Tengu Yeah, this building is like nuke proof. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's it's very brutalist and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the style realism, which again it's kind of soulless. Right,
Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this before. It's very soulless,
Speaker 2: very prison esque, brutalizing. Yeah, now.
Speaker 1: Let's segue here real quick. Should we talk about Stanley
Speaker 1: Kuberc or should we talk about the the guy who
Speaker 1: took the news show hostage.
Speaker 2: Did you get my private chat when you when you
Speaker 2: were talking about it earlier?
Speaker 1: What just take a look at it, just say it.
Speaker 2: Oh that it wasn't in Florida. I wasn't California. What
Speaker 2: was the hostage situation.
Speaker 1: That's not true. It wasn't Florida.
Speaker 2: That's a Wikipedia no, no, no search David Horowitz.
Speaker 1: Hostage. Okay, sorry, you were yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, two percent deviation. It's two percent on this timeline.
Speaker 2: It happened in California. On the other timeline that you
Speaker 2: jumped from, dude, because I know you have access to
Speaker 2: the fifty, it happened in Florida.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a Mondola effect.
Speaker 2: It is there.
Speaker 1: You were right, but hang on now listen.
Speaker 2: Okay, we could still talk about the connection.
Speaker 1: No, no, I was not wrong. Okay, the gunman, No, listen,
Speaker 1: the gunman was from Florida. Okay, his family was from Florida.
Speaker 1: His family worked for IBY, his dad worked for IBYM.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Dan, it's funny, all right. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: So let's talk about him, because I think this ties
Speaker 2: into what we were talking about earlier with the Three
Speaker 2: Letter Agency, you know, running Mike Ultru stuff on people,
Speaker 2: and and some people right falling for this sort of
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what these stories are for, to drive some
Speaker 2: people insane. In my opinion, I think that's that's part
Speaker 2: of the conspiracy culture too.
Speaker 1: Guys, can you see how Wan's trying to gaslight me over.
Speaker 2: I'm not gaslighting.
Speaker 1: Forgetting I said, I said what I said that the
Speaker 1: news channel was in Florida.
Speaker 2: You said I have it in Florida. Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: I didn't want from Florida.
Speaker 1: You can correct me on air. Wan didn't have the ball.
Speaker 2: No, because you get you act got a bitch about
Speaker 2: it when I correct you on air. That's why I
Speaker 2: respected you enough to tell you in the private chat.
Speaker 2: So nobody else is like, hey, long ago, you're a
Speaker 2: retard and you got it wrong, right, So I sent
Speaker 2: you a little private message from hey dude, Hey, nudge.
Speaker 1: Nudge, you're gonna watch.
Speaker 2: It happened in Burbank, California, where no listen.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where the hostage situation happened. It does
Speaker 1: That doesn't relate to what we're talking about. What does
Speaker 1: relate to what we're talking about is this guy, the gunman.
Speaker 1: His father worked for IBM, Yes, and the family was
Speaker 1: from Florida, and he made some claims about IBM and
Speaker 1: the CIA, and that's what he really really wanted to
Speaker 1: get out on air. That's why he did this, you know,
Speaker 1: put his life on the line. So here, let's watch.
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch this in one second. Mm hmmm, alright,
Speaker 1: one second.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that dude? That never mind?
Speaker 1: All right, this is David Horowitz, taken hostage on live
Speaker 1: TV nineteen eighty seven from the Watch Fight Back YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: All right, let's react. We're gonna react to it.
Speaker 2: Fritz Cold, what it down a little bit?
Speaker 6: Bro Sports.
Speaker 3: Just well cover story and thinking She Entertainments cans My
Speaker 3: God number one at eleven, Good evening.
Speaker 4: It has been quite a day here at Channel four,
Speaker 4: and tonight's security is being beefed up at KNVC after
Speaker 4: a gunman walked into our news studio right here at
Speaker 4: this afternoon and on live television at gunpoint, ordered consumer
Speaker 4: reporter David Horowitz to read a message live on television.
Speaker 4: Nobody was hurt. That gunman is in police custody tonight,
Speaker 4: and Jess's cover story takes a look at what hundreds
Speaker 4: of thousands of Shop Channel four at news viewers watched
Speaker 4: on television on the four o'clock News.
Speaker 9: Jess Belly, the man who had been permitted to watch
Speaker 9: the broadcast in the studio, had given no indication of
Speaker 9: his intent. He had been sitting quietly until David Horowitz
Speaker 9: was ready to begin broadcasting his consumer sec because.
Speaker 10: You know, one of the nicest things about shopping by mail,
Speaker 10: order for me?
Speaker 6: What is this?
Speaker 1: Let me see what it says?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 3: All right, well let me read this.
Speaker 6: Folks.
Speaker 10: We have someone on the set who's standing here and
Speaker 10: would like me to read. To read this copy which
Speaker 10: was just handed to me. You want to tell me
Speaker 10: your name or not?
Speaker 3: What is it? And Garry, where are you from.
Speaker 9: At that point, the control room was ordered to go
Speaker 9: to black kill the studio MIC's and put up a
Speaker 9: stand by a slide, but Horowitz continued to read, and
Speaker 9: the gunman kept the gun in his back.
Speaker 10: I was warned in nineteen eighty one by someone with
Speaker 10: connections at the CIA to stay off the computers, that
Speaker 10: they didn't trust people on computers. When I began receiving
Speaker 10: disturbing calls in my parents, which led me to believe
Speaker 10: that something terrible was going on. I was then forced
Speaker 10: into a mental hospital in Tallahassee, where I learned that
Speaker 10: my brother in law had been driven insane in the
Speaker 10: same what is it in the same manner that someone
Speaker 10: was trying to do to me.
Speaker 9: The gun was a precise replica, and police, who by
Speaker 9: then had entered the facilities, made plans to deal with
Speaker 9: the situation, but when the statement had been read, the
Speaker 9: gunman placed the gun on the desk and Ackerman John
Speaker 9: Beard grabbed it.
Speaker 3: Burbank police wrestled a man to the floor.
Speaker 9: He has been identified as Gary Stolman, and he said
Speaker 9: he never intended to harm anyone. Indeed, the gun proved
Speaker 9: a fake, but Stollman may still face a variety of charges.
Speaker 9: He is the son of pharmacist Max Stollman, a former
Speaker 9: member of the Channel four News team reporting on medicine
Speaker 9: and related issues. Max Stollman said, I do have a
Speaker 9: sick son. He has been hospitalized a number of times.
Speaker 9: I am thankful he wasn't killed.
Speaker 1: Quan real quick. He can get a early life check.
Speaker 1: Can we get at a family named origin.
Speaker 2: Check hold on, hold on, this guy looks like like
Speaker 2: a Podesta bro. Yeah, he does, right, Look at this.
Speaker 9: Look At a news conference evening, Prowitz, who appeared to
Speaker 9: maintain his calm throughout the ordeal, acknowledged his fair share
Speaker 9: of anxiety.
Speaker 10: And I've covered enough hostage situations, and I've been in Vietnam,
Speaker 10: and I know that when someone points a gun at you,
Speaker 10: you do what they tell you to do and hope
Speaker 10: that someone's going to save you. Thinking about your wife
Speaker 10: and your kids and your family, and you say, what
Speaker 10: am I doing here? Why is this happening to me?
Speaker 10: And you just try to maintain as much cool as
Speaker 10: you possibly can, because I realized that if you do
Speaker 10: anything out of course, as far as this person's concerned,
Speaker 10: I don't know whether the guy was a terrorist or
Speaker 10: a wacko or somebody that was trying to get even
Speaker 10: for something. And you don't know who's there.
Speaker 9: Here's director Tom Capra explained his order to pull the
Speaker 9: plug is that.
Speaker 11: We cannot allow people with guns or weapons of any
Speaker 11: kind to take a television station hostage. So the first
Speaker 11: thing you do is go to black and kill the
Speaker 11: mics to make sure that the message, whatever it is,
Speaker 11: never gets out.
Speaker 9: Co anchors John Beard and Kirsty Wilde shat through the ordeal,
Speaker 9: Kirsty worrying that she had okay Strollman getting into the studio.
Speaker 3: He called me to get in. You can't just walk
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 1: He called me and said that he was Max Stellman's
Speaker 1: son and he lived in the East and that he
Speaker 1: had never had.
Speaker 2: The opportunity to see his dad while he was on
Speaker 2: our air, and could he come down and watch the show.
Speaker 12: He had to pass and noticed the pass on his chest,
Speaker 12: and nobody noticed anything out of the ordinary until David
Speaker 12: is on. He's standing behind David, and at first we
Speaker 12: thought it was just someone who was.
Speaker 3: Mixed up, confused, didn't realize he was in the way.
Speaker 9: Once the crisis had ended, there was time for reflection
Speaker 9: and concern for Max Stollman, the gunman's father.
Speaker 2: Max is a.
Speaker 11: Terrific Max is just one of the nicest people in
Speaker 11: the entire world, and it is awful that this should
Speaker 11: happen to anyone connected with Max.
Speaker 1: He's just, you know, I love it.
Speaker 3: Barry Stoleman remains in custody.
Speaker 9: They charged his mail way to psychiatric evaluation. No one
Speaker 9: was injured, as Kelly indicated, and the principle was involved
Speaker 9: our tonight regaining their composure. Security has been tightened to
Speaker 9: the extent no one is permitted in the studios without
Speaker 9: a permanent pass.
Speaker 3: It's just passes will no longer be accepted.
Speaker 2: Pause it at his dad again, bro. By the way,
Speaker 2: he was thirty three when he did that, So it's
Speaker 2: at the Illuminati confirmed when I confirmed, boys, So go
Speaker 2: back to the right there he looks just like like
Speaker 2: for a second from the side, he looked like, let's
Speaker 2: see here. You can't see my screen, but he looks
Speaker 2: like Podesta for a second. Yeah, what was the last name?
Speaker 2: It was Stoleman.
Speaker 1: Stoleman two l's IBM executive. They didn't mention that, but
Speaker 1: they said he was a pharmacist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a pharmacy.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was drugging his son. Who knows.
Speaker 2: The Stoleman family name is primarily of Germanic, Dutch and
Speaker 2: tengu origins, with its roots tracing back to medieval Europe,
Speaker 2: depending the branch of family.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, well these are Florida, Florida family, so I
Speaker 1: think I think we know which one. So David Horowitz
Speaker 1: was also, by the way, David Horowitz. Check that name out.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's a tang good name for sure. But
Speaker 1: Max or what's his name, David Horowitz taken hostage live
Speaker 1: on air by a mentally ill allegedly or apparently mentally ill.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a terrible thing when someone gets called
Speaker 1: mentally ill or sick in the head when they aren't
Speaker 1: really you know, that's gas lighting, as we all know.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It seems like his dad kind
Speaker 1: of swept it under the rug. He's sick. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: does stuff like that. Yeah, that's my that's my boy,
Speaker 1: all right. You know, he's a silly, little silly kid.
Speaker 1: But it's a Max go ahead.
Speaker 2: That's probably like one of the most terrifying things of
Speaker 2: being you know, you see these movies where they put
Speaker 2: people in these mental institutions against their will, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's a movie, you know, the person's like, okay,
Speaker 2: Like that's one of my worst fears of like being
Speaker 2: put in someplace against your will, or even going to
Speaker 2: jail for a crime he didn't come in. I think
Speaker 2: those are like right there next to each other of
Speaker 2: pretty horrible things that could possibly happen to you. But yeah,
Speaker 2: just just writing it off like oh nothing, it's there
Speaker 2: is all long ago again, just doing what he does,
Speaker 2: you know, going crazy. I don't know. It's it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I wonder if we can get a transcript
Speaker 2: exactly of what he said. But he was uh thirty
Speaker 2: three in the heaven.
Speaker 1: Well he was basically saying that computers are posing a
Speaker 1: danger to everyone and that he knows the CIA was
Speaker 1: cloning people and using computers to take over people's brains. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Also real quick in Tallahassee, there is an FSU shooter
Speaker 1: who shot up FSU library in like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty fifteen, around there, twenty fourteen I think,
Speaker 1: and he had been making YouTube videos for weeks saying guys,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing voices. I think they're coming after me. I
Speaker 1: think they're messing with my This was like twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Was there a new one though, because it says here,
Speaker 2: yeah there were, Yeah, there was an but check this out.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the computers helping right driving people. Also,
Speaker 2: it accuses Chad Gpt of helping plan FSU. What this
Speaker 2: is the issue with this bro where people are believing
Speaker 2: there's the other one where he thought he was talking
Speaker 2: to the girl from Game of Throne, the Dragon Girl,
Speaker 2: the Nearest Targarian, and then the AI told him to
Speaker 2: told him to off himself, and he did. You saw
Speaker 2: it one right? That was in Florida too, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, search, who was this guy's name? I forget?
Speaker 2: So he said, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember the arresting officers name FSU shooters,
Speaker 1: Omar Nations.
Speaker 2: Omar Nations. Yeah, what the Bravard native honored for stopping
Speaker 2: So twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think the shooting happened in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 10: Could be wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh oh brother, So yeah.
Speaker 1: This will go see if you can find the shooter's name. Basically,
Speaker 1: he believed he was a targeted individual. So it's just
Speaker 1: put twenty fourteen in, bro, trust me.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 3: I was right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're right on this one. Yeah, it's long ago.
Speaker 2: You were right on this one, dude. Yeah, let's see here.
Speaker 2: So Florida state this guy's name.
Speaker 1: So this guy claimed he made YouTube videos saying yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a targeted individual. They're messing with my head. I'm
Speaker 1: worried about what's gonna happen. In the future and no
Speaker 1: one really cared, and then he did the shooting and
Speaker 1: the iron this guy, yes, yep, iron man.
Speaker 2: What does he look like? Let's see.
Speaker 10: This guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh. Not the typical demographic. I'm just gonna say that.
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people look like in Tallahassee,
Speaker 1: like black people who went to college.
Speaker 2: Oh Georgia, Yeah, I guess, okay, yeah, yeah, because Tallahassee's
Speaker 2: not really Florida. It's just like, remember anything above central
Speaker 2: Florida is not real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the capital.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just it's Florida, and then just
Speaker 2: whatever South Georgia.
Speaker 1: So all right, forget about this guy. But just interesting
Speaker 1: that this is all kind of happening around Tallahassee. We've
Speaker 1: got three people here who were gunmen who claimed they
Speaker 1: had their mind scrambled or something similar to that, had
Speaker 1: their mind scrambled in Tallahassee. Well, IBM was also very
Speaker 1: involved in Tallahassee. Okay, all these pictures here are coming
Speaker 1: from the Tallahassee IBM building back in the seventies or so.
Speaker 1: You can see, Oh look, dude, that's fuck dude time
Speaker 1: trap dude, bro bros.
Speaker 2: Hey that's a fucking don't be racist.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fucking DeAndre Titour dude. That's Javon t Tour. Alright,
Speaker 1: don't that's Ja Kwan t Tour.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 2: You got mad at me earlier for saying all white
Speaker 2: people look the same, So don't don't.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's the same guy. Dude, that's the same guy.
Speaker 1: I need to zoom in on this even further. Dude,
Speaker 1: pull up Myron man.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got him pulled over here. That is Oh,
Speaker 2: this guy's bald, bro.
Speaker 1: This guy here is we found Javon t Tour dude. Yeah, dude, straight.
Speaker 2: Up, Bro, he's kind of balld too, bro, damn. And
Speaker 2: that's in Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in tallahass.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's got a side profile him. Right, this guy.
Speaker 1: Here, did he ever have glasses on?
Speaker 2: Does it look like it? No?
Speaker 1: That's one bow tie?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, all right, well close enough, mister bow tie. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 2: He tried it. He tried to tell us, you try
Speaker 2: to tell us. Yikes.
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, that's uncanny. That's all right. So that's some
Speaker 1: guy at IBM in Tallahassee. And so IBM was active
Speaker 1: in Tallahassee and then vocal ratone. But all right, that
Speaker 1: guy's dad worked at IBM. He claimed the CIA was,
Speaker 1: you know, messing with his brain. Now what else do
Speaker 1: we have to talk about? All right, I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you a picture on well Stanley Kubrick two thousand and
Speaker 1: one a Space Odyssey. There the villain of the movie
Speaker 1: is a AI program named al h a L. Can
Speaker 1: you look that up? One?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, By the way, they do call it the
Speaker 2: brick What how ninth the IBM place in Boca how
Speaker 2: nine thousand there you go, put.
Speaker 1: Hel How nine thousand is the you know antagonist in
Speaker 1: the not the Shining fuck two thousand and one of
Speaker 1: Space Odyssey. It's the AI. Like it's like the SERI
Speaker 1: to the spaceship that this crew is on out deep
Speaker 1: in space, and this AI controls their their life support systems.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like sleeping in cryo chambers. And the
Speaker 1: AI can control all that, it can turn it off,
Speaker 1: it can kill them if it wants. It lets all
Speaker 1: the doors open and clows back into the ship. And
Speaker 1: over time, this this murderous AI, this jealous, desperate AI consciousness,
Speaker 1: you know thing eliminates the crew of the ship except
Speaker 1: for one survivor, who is then kind of lost in
Speaker 1: space and taken in and by like alien god or
Speaker 1: some distant interest dimentional intelligence that can like travel space time,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like time travel. You know, there's
Speaker 1: elements of time travel to that movie, not not explicitly,
Speaker 1: but you get a taste of like time travel and
Speaker 1: the folding of time and dimensions opening up at the
Speaker 1: end of that movie. How who is this AI force
Speaker 1: that's like working against humanity meeting their humanity is like
Speaker 1: on path to like meet their creator and I don't know,
Speaker 1: penetrate this alternate dimension and whatever. But Hal tries to
Speaker 1: kill them first, and then only one survives and he's
Speaker 1: kind of rescued her the way Kubrick said it was.
Speaker 1: The movie ends with the one survivor being put in
Speaker 1: a human enclosure. The aliens make like a room to
Speaker 1: put him in, kind of like how when we find
Speaker 1: a pet or when we find an animal, like we
Speaker 1: just put them in a little cage and kind of
Speaker 1: forget about them for most of the day. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and one A Space Odyssey ends with these this alien
Speaker 1: intelligence creating like an interdimensional hotel room for the surviving
Speaker 1: crew member to live in, and you get this sense
Speaker 1: of the agonizing time. How he's just sitting in this
Speaker 1: room nothing to do. But from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: if you're like a human looking at a rabbit in
Speaker 1: a cage, you're like, oh, well, they have a cage.
Speaker 1: There's their food, there's the water. He's got everything he needs.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite movie, but it does a good
Speaker 1: job conveying like the boredom. Right, this guy's stuck for
Speaker 1: like the rest of his life, one hundred years. It
Speaker 1: may even be hundreds or thousands of years. He's stuck
Speaker 1: in this like hotel room, but uh whatever, So there's
Speaker 1: elements of time travel to it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, now, I just want you. I want you
Speaker 2: to finish, and then we'll get into what I just found.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 1: So how is I B M. Kubrick was going to name?
Speaker 1: He was going to use IBM, but was worried he
Speaker 1: might get in trouble or it would be too on
Speaker 1: the nose, you know, So he decided an interesting little
Speaker 1: kind of code or way to make it more cryptic.
Speaker 1: Instead of I B M. Kubrick went H A L.
Speaker 1: That's one letter off from all three letters. So the
Speaker 1: following letter for each of the three letters, instead of I,
Speaker 1: be actually it's the preceding letter. Excuse me. So instead
Speaker 1: of I, you go forward one letter to H. Instead
Speaker 1: of B, we go to A. Instead of M, we
Speaker 1: go to L. So IBM became H A L. Kubrick
Speaker 1: is saying, IBM the company who's making all these personal computers,
Speaker 1: all these things. It was decades off from SII and
Speaker 1: AI and flock cameras. That's another part of al as
Speaker 1: Hal is tapped into all the security cameras and knows
Speaker 1: everyone's heartbeat, knows everyone's you know where they are at
Speaker 1: all times. And so Kubrick was saying, you know, even
Speaker 1: before he ever saw an iPhone anything like that, Kubrick
Speaker 1: was saying, the computers are already posing this threat. You know,
Speaker 1: we're relying on them for so much. It's similar to
Speaker 1: Terminator and the Matrix where the machines kind of, Kubrick
Speaker 1: was expressing this concern that the the machines may take
Speaker 1: over and if we give AI too much independence, it
Speaker 1: can come back to.
Speaker 2: Just un that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Come back to kill us. Well, another big part of
Speaker 1: the the two thousand and one a Space Odyssey movie,
Speaker 1: is uh, the the introduction of these obelisks. So this
Speaker 1: alien race or this kind of grand architect of the
Speaker 1: universe or who knows, this alien race that's interacting with
Speaker 1: humanity in two thousand and one in Space Odyssey, they
Speaker 1: place obelisks almost like milestones or you know, markers of advancement,
Speaker 1: Like they put one on Earth, you know, buried or somewhere,
Speaker 1: they put one on the Moon, they put one on
Speaker 1: one of Jupiter's moons, and based off when humanity finds them.
Speaker 1: That lets the humans know how, that lets the aliens
Speaker 1: know how progressed humanity is. Right, Like, if they made
Speaker 1: it to the moon and they activate this obelisk, we
Speaker 1: know that they've achieved the ability to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: interplanetary travel something close to that. So the the obelisks
Speaker 1: are like markers. They're like Easter eggs, they're breadcrumbs, but
Speaker 1: they're also like tests, right, milestones. So all right, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about this obelisk because all of this kind of
Speaker 1: evolving around Florida. What could the two thousand and one
Speaker 1: Space Odyssey possibly have to do with Florida. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you a picture here and you guys, tell
Speaker 1: me what you think. This is a picture that I
Speaker 1: made side by side comparison. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2: To your door strikes again.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: On the right there, that is an infamous scene from
Speaker 1: two thousand and one where the obelisk that was placed
Speaker 1: on you know, prehistoric Earth is discovered by a group
Speaker 1: of apes or pre you know humans, archaic humans, hominids,
Speaker 1: and they're so kind of dumbfounded, awestruck by this object,
Speaker 1: by the geometry of it, that they seem to worship it, right.
Speaker 1: And it's even kind of implied that this this interaction
Speaker 1: may have even been the birth of religion and civilization
Speaker 1: in this you know, this timeline or this narrative according
Speaker 1: to the movie. So on the right there the scene
Speaker 1: from two thousand and one A Space Odyssey, the apes
Speaker 1: kind of worshiping, venerating this obelisk. On the left, what
Speaker 1: we're looking at is the Timucua Indians in northeast Florida
Speaker 1: who are worshiping a column that the French Huguenots left
Speaker 1: behind when they came to Florida in fifteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: Between fifteen sixty two and fifteen sixty five, the French
Speaker 1: were around Saint Augustine, Jacksonville, parts of South Carolina, and
Speaker 1: the Huguenots were trying to set up a colony. When
Speaker 1: they left, they had to leave for a time. They
Speaker 1: built this pillar, this obelisk, and they engraved it. You know,
Speaker 1: and think about being a Native American and never seeing
Speaker 1: this type of geometry before hewn stone. They might have
Speaker 1: had something similar, but nothing quite like this. You know,
Speaker 1: they had skilled craftsmen who built this pillar. It's obelisk.
Speaker 1: And the Indians when the French left, they almost kind
Speaker 1: of left it as like a present to the Indians.
Speaker 1: The Indians started worshiping it because they were confused as
Speaker 1: to its purpose. You know, what the hell is this, Fords,
Speaker 1: It's like a display of power, display of intelligence. You know,
Speaker 1: the French might not have seen it like that. The
Speaker 1: French was almost maybe like a whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But the Indians there, the Florida Indians are crowding around
Speaker 1: this obelisk, much in the same way that Kubrick showed
Speaker 1: the apes crowding his obelisk.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, yeah, I think there is
Speaker 2: a striking resemblance. It's almost and again it could have
Speaker 2: been that cube being who he was very cryptic in nature,
Speaker 2: maybe drew the parallels between these two events and put
Speaker 2: it in his movie right almost too some maybe a
Speaker 2: nod or you know, he saw the symbol, he saw
Speaker 2: the writing on the walls. And I don't know what
Speaker 2: you think about Kubrick if you think he was an
Speaker 2: intelligent asset, if you know, because you have the whole
Speaker 2: moon landing faking tape that they made allegedly, and he
Speaker 2: put that some of those what was the shining where
Speaker 2: he's got the shirt with Gnass on it. I believe
Speaker 2: that's the one where we kind of kind of puts
Speaker 2: those nods in there. So maybe he he was in
Speaker 2: the know with the people, right, I mean, that's the
Speaker 2: only thing I can think of. Yeah, definitely when you
Speaker 2: had shown me this, it was pretty pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: What I think might have happened is Stanley Kubrick, as
Speaker 1: researching IBM the history of IBM, realized that they were
Speaker 1: headquartered in Florida, or had a headquarters in Florida, or
Speaker 1: multiple and maybe did a little digging found this old
Speaker 1: picture of some Florida Indians, and who knows, it's not
Speaker 1: outside the realm of possibility that he stumbled on some
Speaker 1: info about the Florida Indians when researching IBM and the
Speaker 1: history there in Florida. Who knows, so good, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't find the actual thing, but the
Speaker 2: AI decided to write the AI likes to do funny things,
Speaker 2: and somebody in the chat mentioned something about an IBM
Speaker 2: plane going missing by Little Saint James whatever, and so
Speaker 2: I had googled IBM computers and Little Saint James, and
Speaker 2: it came up with this, Like, it's really weird that
Speaker 2: it came up with this specific thing. So it says
Speaker 2: this right during an August twenty nineteen rate on Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Epstein's private Caribbean Island and FBI agency's computer desktas and
Speaker 2: Apple computer and various hardwares. While specific hardware brands are
Speaker 2: part of the broader federal investigation, Epstein previously donated fifty
Speaker 2: IBM link computers to local US Virgin Island schools and
Speaker 2: youth groups. But see I'm not able to he did,
Speaker 2: for a fact, donate to the Virgin Islands and the
Speaker 2: kids like kids with disabilities. He gave them kindles, he
Speaker 2: gave them computers and all this other stuff. So he
Speaker 2: did give to the kids and the Virgin Islands. But
Speaker 2: I can't confirm that it was actually the IBM computer
Speaker 2: because that'd be interesting. IBM and it's IBM linked computers,
Speaker 2: and if you look it up IBM link computers, it's like, uh.
Speaker 2: It generally refers to modern integrations combining traditional supercomputing architectures,
Speaker 2: IBM's cloud and quantum ecosystems. So again, this the AI
Speaker 2: doing AI stuff. I couldn't confirm it, but I did
Speaker 2: confirm that he did donate stuff to people, and then
Speaker 2: they were like, hey, we have to review this stuff
Speaker 2: because this guy's a creep. We can't be taking stuff
Speaker 2: from from creeps, right. Obviously this guy was in Florida too,
Speaker 2: and just another connection to the.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, do you want to hear something crazy? I
Speaker 1: saw Palm Beach Pete today in person. Palm Beach was
Speaker 1: that you don't know Palm Beach ptas living under Oh.
Speaker 2: The the guy that looks like him, Yeah, you saw
Speaker 2: him today.
Speaker 1: He's he's in next to me, pulled up next to
Speaker 1: me in the car.
Speaker 2: If I was this guy, bro, I would hide away forever, okay,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't use this for clout like, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: I look like this absolute scum of a human. Let
Speaker 2: me use it for clout and go and do all
Speaker 2: these interviews and stuff like that. Some people think it's him, bro,
Speaker 2: some people think it's actually him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. I mean, if I had,
Speaker 2: if I was gonna just.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just what so many people look like
Speaker 1: down here, Like I'm not even kidding, Like that's just
Speaker 1: a sixty something year old Jewish guy in Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 1: There's like a million of those. Hate to break it
Speaker 1: to people.
Speaker 2: YI. Anyways, that's funny. Dude, Shoo got him on the podcast.
Speaker 1: He would probably do it. He does like every podcast
Speaker 1: that reaches out to him almost.
Speaker 2: I mean, what would we talk about with this guy?
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you look like hey, you look like
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein? Bro, how does that feel?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is really milk? And is fifteen minutes?
Speaker 2: I'd stay away from that one, dude.
Speaker 1: But all right, I think we covered everything. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. IBM. You know a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about John Teeter, but now how many people have ever
Speaker 1: tied it into that hostage situation. Guy made claims that
Speaker 1: were kind of similar to John Tetur's a little bit.
Speaker 2: And who knows if Titor could have been another one
Speaker 2: of these people in one of these programs that was
Speaker 2: made to believe that they were a time traveler, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, because I think that a lot of people,
Speaker 2: right when it comes to the UFO phenomenon and a
Speaker 2: lot of these things that people talk about being abducted,
Speaker 2: I think that those are just stories that people use
Speaker 2: to cope with some other darker stuff that they don't
Speaker 2: know how to articulate. So therefore their minds just go
Speaker 2: to like, hey, I was abducted by aliens and they
Speaker 2: did stuff to me while it was actually them as
Speaker 2: like a you know, a young person and a family
Speaker 2: member was doing it to them. Like, I think that
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff is just a way for
Speaker 2: people to cope with trauma. And who knows if right
Speaker 2: this guy went on the news and went on this
Speaker 2: rant and people just dismiss him. But a lot of
Speaker 2: the times, I mean, you know, it could go either way.
Speaker 2: They could be telling the truth, how they could just
Speaker 2: be coping with you know, large amounts of stress and
Speaker 2: things like that. So I don't know. You can't throw
Speaker 2: out the baby with the bathwater, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: M yeah, well you know, palm beach Pete never throws
Speaker 1: out his baby bathwater. Yeah, baby bathwater.
Speaker 2: Never mind. Yeah, all right, we'll just.
Speaker 1: Wrap it up here. Guys, Thanks for tuning in. Guys
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Speaker 1: we'll see you next Thursday. We'll try and come up with.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, don't hit me up Wednesday to give me
Speaker 2: the topic for today. Okay, that's the side today for
Speaker 2: the topic next Thursday.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, all right, we'll see okay,
Speaker 1: all right, everyone have a good night.
Speaker 2: I have a good night.
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Speaker 5: We can't keep the peas.
Speaker 13: Since we have warped, gotta keep the peas.
Speaker 6: Whack a con.
Speaker 13: Then I meditate, should I need to breathe keep our
Speaker 13: over make head when we slide because we just shaved