Speaker 1: What Up Do't?
Speaker 2: And welcome to one of the Weights Live and What
Speaker 2: Sports Easy, joined by spin Mill Racks you know Chris
Speaker 2: nick Ellis and share the stream. Domas will be joined
Speaker 2: at some point during the show today. Give us update
Speaker 2: around the NFC North, what's going on in the training
Speaker 2: camps of our rivals? Before that, you guys know the
Speaker 2: first time it is usual bullshit. Oh another tease. We
Speaker 2: have somebody boots on the ground at camp today joining
Speaker 2: the show with their takeaways. A ball no a ball
Speaker 2: noer not. Some may call them what they call themselves.
Speaker 2: I was kidding Lucas Lucas, you know Luis class was
Speaker 2: joined the show. I should let it be a surprise.
Speaker 2: I fucked up. I fucked up? Can we redo that?
Speaker 2: Just reach out the show on the top, what everybody?
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of like stuff. I don't know
Speaker 2: where to go with this stuff, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: it's it's highly debated stuff. Some of it's one guys
Speaker 2: in politics. I want to say it's a political statement,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna avoid that one. It's funny. I think
Speaker 2: you should avoid that one. That one's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Our chat will just be fucking that the whole day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to read that ship for your fault,
Speaker 2: we can't do it.
Speaker 3: Adam from the D says, what's a pirate's favorite curse word?
Speaker 3: The hard are that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Chat r f K said he has no gag reflex
Speaker 2: and eat anything. Goddamn, that's what pretty much mash my freak.
Speaker 2: But that's what we're skipping.
Speaker 3: And we do not promote sexual gratification anyway. We do
Speaker 3: not promote violence fu others in anyway. Everything we say
Speaker 3: and do is in a satirical and comedic format. Please
Speaker 3: don't suit us.
Speaker 2: This guy will not stand on Clay Travis. I believe
Speaker 2: you to be an ESPN guy if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4: Who is that?
Speaker 2: Uh, he's like this hard hardcore conservative guy for more
Speaker 2: sports guy. I believe he's part of Fox something like that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you've been seeing like the
Speaker 2: w NBA players and coaches. I definitely have not been
Speaker 2: seeing it from the WB So there's been tons of
Speaker 2: clips coming out from WNBA coaches. I think a w
Speaker 2: NBA player, I think maybe that I've been my all
Speaker 2: be coaches. I could be chat correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys seen this too, but they talk
Speaker 2: about how they want to be an all inclusive league,
Speaker 2: meaning like if somebody who were transgender wanted to join
Speaker 2: the w NBA. They think everyone should be able to play.
Speaker 3: Chris, it's your time to shine, baby, girl.
Speaker 5: Baby, you know what's up dominating? Do you have tweet
Speaker 5: and twe It's my computers freezing right now.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 6: Give me like he can't do anything back here right now?
Speaker 2: All right, you're good. I will. I'll find it in
Speaker 2: slack and I'll read it. So he uh. He raised
Speaker 2: up ten million dollars. He wants to open a WNBA
Speaker 2: franchise in Nashville, and he wants the already of the team,
Speaker 2: coaching staff, all the above to be transgi gender women,
Speaker 2: just to prove a point.
Speaker 3: He wants to start a super team, super team of sorts.
Speaker 3: He's building the team. I'm putting together a team of sorts. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for them, you NBA ladies. And I believe
Speaker 2: Kitlin Kark spoke on this too. She's like she does
Speaker 2: not want that to be a thing. But this coach
Speaker 2: is like, no, you know, what's I say? Do it?
Speaker 3: Get Jeff t ass out there.
Speaker 2: You see any of them with the drinks that was
Speaker 2: not that was not him. But yeah, yeah, but that
Speaker 2: version of it's in the middle. Yes it was, Yes
Speaker 2: it was. But I'm down for it. I would watch,
Speaker 2: I would watch and and and I think it only
Speaker 2: I can't say only good could come out of it,
Speaker 2: but like if they beat him, then get you know,
Speaker 2: some damn respect.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the you know, the mean machine
Speaker 3: versus the guards type of situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: So there are w n b A players saying that
Speaker 2: want what's to happen? So the only one I've seen
Speaker 2: the chat too. I don't know if anybody's been like
Speaker 2: seeing this on Twitter. I saw Kaitlyn Clark say that
Speaker 2: she like would she does not. She's not a fan
Speaker 2: of that, or at least she said an NBA player
Speaker 2: like murder her because she'd like to play staff. It's
Speaker 2: like something else I've seen too, like a shooting couch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's like not, doesn't I'm not. I don't want use
Speaker 2: words to lose all, but she's she no, No, I
Speaker 2: finally got yeah support announcement. I'm up in my offer
Speaker 2: ten million dollars for a head to head basketball game
Speaker 2: between the defending WNBA champion Las Vegas Aces and a
Speaker 2: boys high school state title team of my choice. The
Speaker 2: Aces beat my team, I will give them ten million dollars.
Speaker 2: He's als talking about opening up a w NBA team
Speaker 2: in Nashville and like I said, having the all trans
Speaker 2: women coaching and and roster.
Speaker 3: How many times they gotta be not gonna lie? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because like I mean, a boys state championship team would
Speaker 3: beat the Aces.
Speaker 2: Yeah they would.
Speaker 1: They would.
Speaker 2: Do you think Zionion?
Speaker 3: If Zion is a high schooler in the NBA or
Speaker 3: w NBA, he'd average seventy points a game. Like see
Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham is a high school Kate Cunningham and Scottie Barnes.
Speaker 2: Juwanna man going.
Speaker 3: Up against the Aces? Like I mean, you know, all
Speaker 3: due respect to the w NBA. They beat me in basketball,
Speaker 3: no doubt.
Speaker 2: But we finally settled, like the debate, we finally sat
Speaker 2: like the argument. Yeah, I think they should do it.
Speaker 2: They did this tennis a while back, and I apprecire
Speaker 2: the woman won should be like a retired male player
Speaker 2: who was talking a lot of shit. I could be wrong, actually,
Speaker 2: I think the guy.
Speaker 7: I remember the US women's soccer team went up against
Speaker 7: a group of I think.
Speaker 6: A fourteen year olds fourteen and they got there.
Speaker 2: Well that was recent.
Speaker 3: They lost like six to the lost My goodness, Adam
Speaker 3: from the D with the Super Chances as a roster
Speaker 3: full of Transformers with dog Walk to the w NBA as
Speaker 3: a super chat from Adam and the D.
Speaker 2: Never mind, this is canceled. Should we stop? I want
Speaker 2: to see it? Yeah, what the this is cancelable? But
Speaker 2: I would I mean, I watched More Power. Why yes,
Speaker 2: I'm not like saying that. I'm not gonna be like
Speaker 2: your exhibition anyways.
Speaker 3: You know it's.
Speaker 2: I think I think it would just settle the debate
Speaker 2: like it would settle the debate like a championship team.
Speaker 2: We're just even having a team full of the Transformers
Speaker 2: like it would be. It would set the debate like
Speaker 2: do they belong? Because if they go into the league
Speaker 2: year one, they run the league, then we would have
Speaker 2: our answers no, like I don't know, Yeah, I'll let
Speaker 2: that be. The other one is also I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: let you're just being you shouldn't let me do the morning.
Speaker 3: You're good he's political unk. Now easy is political unk.
Speaker 3: You should see his Facebook.
Speaker 2: I can't deny my Facebook, cleans my Twitter. Twitter's bad.
Speaker 2: Twitter wants to radicalize me. Yeah, it's it's clean up
Speaker 2: a little bit. But this one was actually kind of funny.
Speaker 2: It was Aaron Rodgers. He was on He's back in
Speaker 2: the Pat McFee show. I didn't what nick. I don't
Speaker 2: actually went.
Speaker 6: Why are you coming? Why are you coming at me
Speaker 6: with the hell one?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know what's going on. I was an.
Speaker 7: Anti Rogers guy, but I thought this was, I mean,
Speaker 7: just comedy.
Speaker 2: Victory left.
Speaker 6: I thought it was comedy.
Speaker 2: I thought it was comedy too, so I also.
Speaker 7: Took the vax so I mean, it's just comedy in
Speaker 7: that's why I have to take these hangover.
Speaker 2: That way a little bit.
Speaker 7: But Aaron Rodgers was just obviously trying to take a
Speaker 7: victory lap his first time back on the McAfee McAfee show.
Speaker 7: I believe everybody knows Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: I'm asking, I don't know what's going on with fout you.
Speaker 2: What's he's pleading? I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I like, I couldn't care less about like COVID's behind
Speaker 3: me I don't know what they're suing him for, but
Speaker 3: they're suing him or something.
Speaker 7: And I saw for telling billions of people to go
Speaker 7: take a thing that wasn't you know too well?
Speaker 6: You know he can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that part of it. And then he
Speaker 2: also went at ESPN for not covering the Diana Rossini stuff.
Speaker 2: Did he really, Aaron Rodgers McFee, he's like your gutless network,
Speaker 2: whow coward? To cover the other breaking story over the
Speaker 2: over the offseason? You got VP voter. I don't think
Speaker 2: they did, not not.
Speaker 6: To scare shitless?
Speaker 3: Is it Bobby Kraft got that much poll? Is that
Speaker 3: what it is like? If that wasn't the Patriots, I
Speaker 3: feel like it would have been a much because the
Speaker 3: Robert Kraft when he was getting you know, but even
Speaker 3: that really cover that ship.
Speaker 6: More than they did the Rassini.
Speaker 8: It was that was crazy. That Patriot effect is real, man.
Speaker 1: They listen.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I told Bryce last night because we we took Bryce
Speaker 2: to the training camp. Yeah, he asked, who's the greatest
Speaker 2: football player of all time? We told him obviously Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: But last night I told him, listen, Bryce, like you
Speaker 2: can carry this burden if you want, But just know
Speaker 2: Tom Brady got three of his championship rings while his
Speaker 2: team was filming other coaches. They pulled the Michigan spy
Speaker 2: Gate happened. Spy Gate happened. They won three championships during Spygate.
Speaker 2: Now he wrote went four after I told Bryce you
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, beause Bryson got mad like he should
Speaker 2: be in jail. Then Bryceon for sure was talking that ship.
Speaker 2: He's a throws a ball in his face, brycele He
Speaker 2: still has four rings, but uh, they only find Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick two of fifty thousand dollars, the franchise two and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars and took a first round pick. That
Speaker 2: was the only punishment for Swigen. That's fucking insane. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they won three Super Bowls in that time. You know
Speaker 2: what piss I'd be as another team?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, like just a real quick, a real
Speaker 5: quick tangent. But the NBA thing with Kawhi, why don't
Speaker 5: we never bring it up?
Speaker 2: We talk about Tom Brady's rings just like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: got seven, Yeah, cheating for three of them. Everybody knows.
Speaker 5: So the latest report of the NBA is that they're
Speaker 5: scared to go at Steve Baumer because he's by far
Speaker 5: the richest owner, so like he's gonna like wage war.
Speaker 5: So they're trying so technically, by the rules of the CBA,
Speaker 5: Steve Baumer has to agree to his punishment.
Speaker 1: So like the Clipper, what they.
Speaker 2: Put that in that's crazy, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna find you as long as that's
Speaker 3: okay with you.
Speaker 2: What the is that that?
Speaker 3: I mean that is the league folds to its strongest bin.
Speaker 3: That's what happens, and he and se balmbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's big dog, so that they Bobby Bobby Craft
Speaker 2: had a man though, the guy who owned the Clippers
Speaker 2: previously who got him down Sterling.
Speaker 5: You know what's crazy that he wasn't brilliant like that,
Speaker 5: he didn't have the bread like that, they kicked him.
Speaker 3: Has more bread than he does. He went to magic.
Speaker 3: That's going to be for beat.
Speaker 1: You get your money.
Speaker 3: I'm not your But there were sceni stuff. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: didn't I don't even think about it because of how
Speaker 3: much we covered it, Like I didn't really like no
Speaker 3: Way because like we talked about this ship every day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't really Watchman that much anymore though. I watched WAT.
Speaker 3: I tried to watch Sports Center the other day. They
Speaker 3: talked about uh, w n b A for a while
Speaker 3: and then went to football. I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I started watching, and then they went They did like
Speaker 3: two minutes of football, and then they went to w
Speaker 3: W E.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, what the fuck are we doing
Speaker 2: right now? But w W gets viewership at the very
Speaker 2: least like WNBA. I'm like, why you waste our time
Speaker 2: with this w W. There's a fucking there's a cult
Speaker 2: like following.
Speaker 1: It is Dom.
Speaker 2: Dom's a big wrestling guy too.
Speaker 3: It's just I'm not wrestling guy at all, and I'm
Speaker 3: not w NBA guy at all. So I was like,
Speaker 3: what that sex is going.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I honestly couldn't believe it because, like you know, w
Speaker 3: n b A, I'll respect it because it's real sports.
Speaker 3: So they were telling like the updates of you know,
Speaker 3: it's actually sporting competition.
Speaker 2: It's like theater hot take.
Speaker 3: So I was, you know, listen whatever, you know, this
Speaker 3: is whatever obviously like the football stuff.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as w W, dude, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck.
Speaker 7: They lost all their best like fifteen years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 3: Like the anchors were really cringey. It was Sports Center.
Speaker 2: All the guys moved trying to b Stewart Scott. But
Speaker 2: they are but it's unnaturally. Yeah, where Stuart Scott was
Speaker 2: just inflosting. He was just fucking going. You know, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Scott van Pelt another great one. He's going, like these guys,
Speaker 2: it's for the rehearse it before the show. Hey put
Speaker 2: this earring on, and I mean talk about DANIELASKI talking
Speaker 2: about another clip. I seen those guys too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'll watch first take because you know, steven A.
Speaker 2: Smith is entertaining, and but I don't watch there because whoever,
Speaker 2: Like when anything happens to new Is, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: gotta hear stephen A. I've never said that my fucking life, know, but.
Speaker 3: That's like when I get home and laid down on
Speaker 3: the couch, how I flick the tube on?
Speaker 2: You know, flick your flick the being a little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe like a Cowboys loss. I maybe, No,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm saying he's like appointment, you know what, he's watchable.
Speaker 2: I know what time I wanted to hear from steven A.
Speaker 2: It's when the Detroit Pissons beat the ship of the
Speaker 2: New York Knicks like the third time in a row.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I got to hear what they
Speaker 2: gotta say this morning, for sure. But even then I
Speaker 2: just waited for the clip.
Speaker 1: Man he could see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've just when it comes to the ESPN, I'm
Speaker 5: just all about the clips now, I don't.
Speaker 8: I'm not going out of.
Speaker 2: My way to sit there and watch a show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I used to watch first, Like I said,
Speaker 3: I'm just like laying down on the couch. I want
Speaker 3: to throw a TV show on. I'm not gonna watch
Speaker 3: some you know, edited for TV movie on tn T
Speaker 3: or something like that. So I'll put on ESPN and
Speaker 3: if it's McAfee or if it's First Take, or if
Speaker 3: it's Get Up or like.
Speaker 2: NFL Live, I'll watch it. I'll forget. But Sports Center sucks.
Speaker 2: A decade ago, I'm watching Lyle Layer on the USA
Speaker 2: Network and he's in the bathrooms one of my favorite singing.
Speaker 2: He's like, what are you doing? He's like on the
Speaker 2: USA Network, I'm kicking home, but like, oh dude, I
Speaker 2: can't blow me.
Speaker 3: Sixty nine sixty nine is fucked that I watched WSM
Speaker 3: because ESPN is garbage.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Shout out, all right, go pay some bills, come back.
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Speaker 3: It, don't Okay, you can't even help it.
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Speaker 1: Breaking news, breaking news.
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lyons are signing running back Raheem Black Shehear.
Speaker 3: Oh no, put some pressure on gif replacement. There you go,
Speaker 3: Jeff if Frady, that's what you want, right, that's what
Speaker 3: you want, Jeff, You got a running back. Now, why
Speaker 3: pay Gibs? You got Raheem black Shear and Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 3: That's gonna that's gonna help us win the North. Right,
Speaker 3: we're good. We don't need to pay Gibbs. While we
Speaker 3: pay Gibs, we could pick up Raheem Black Scheer. That's
Speaker 3: the whole rhetoric, right, Why would you pay Gibbs twenty
Speaker 3: five million dollars when you could get running backs from anywhere? Well,
Speaker 3: there it is. There's your running back from anywhere. Have
Speaker 3: fun with Raheem Black Cheer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually called in the crunch town today. We kind
Speaker 2: of went out a little bit. You're yelling yeah voodoos
Speaker 2: one who was getting fired up because he kept trying
Speaker 2: to get a golf thing. No, I never said go
Speaker 2: replace golf. I was like, I was not the biggest
Speaker 2: fan of I don't think he's an leak guy. That's
Speaker 2: it's as far as that's ever gone, the replaced Gibbs stuff.
Speaker 2: Could you do it hypothetically, sure, but it's a top
Speaker 2: three running back. And if you're gonna like replace the
Speaker 2: top three running back to have that twenty six million
Speaker 2: dollars to spend elsewhere, you better damn we'll have a
Speaker 2: game plan for the twenty six million dollars. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about a detailed game plan. If you're gonna go to
Speaker 2: your your franchise owner in shield Ford hamp and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're actually gonna let Jamiir walk. We're gonna let one
Speaker 2: of the best players in the NFL walk, one of the
Speaker 2: best jersey sellers in the NFL walk. She's gonna say, why, yeah,
Speaker 2: what are we doing with that money? And if your
Speaker 2: answer is we're spending on defense, it's great. Who are
Speaker 2: you gonna get? Well, we just gotta wait and see
Speaker 2: where it's gonna they're gonna be good, though. I promise
Speaker 2: you they gonna be just as impactful as a all
Speaker 2: Pro caliber running back. I promise you that. No, that's
Speaker 2: not it. That's not gonna work. You sit down. The
Speaker 2: other sound just getting rid of the best players, and
Speaker 2: the promise is we're gonna get somebody who I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we're we're gonna get you know what, you couldn't.
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand being mad at that concept.
Speaker 2: I just I don't see I love them, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But I just I can't get on
Speaker 2: the same page as that.
Speaker 3: You could have had the defense, if you wanted the defense,
Speaker 3: you could have had Jaalen fucking Carter, but no, you
Speaker 3: traded that pick to move back, and you drafted Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 3: So you're telling me the right thing to do instead
Speaker 3: of paying Jamiir Gibbs what he's worth, is to say,
Speaker 3: fuck that first round pick that we could have had
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter with, Well, just whatever we got four or
Speaker 3: five years out of it, we're good.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Wasting that kind of effort, wasting that kind of asset
Speaker 3: in a first round pick for a guy that would
Speaker 3: have changed your def that you didn't take, and he
Speaker 3: took the running back instead just saying no, we don't
Speaker 3: need him, we'll get another one.
Speaker 2: The other thing that hum would be too Again, I'm
Speaker 2: not even trying to bash these guys. This all stemmed,
Speaker 2: by the way from Jon Robinson. So I got three
Speaker 2: years seventy five million dollars extension, so twenty five a year,
Speaker 2: and the expectation is up to twenty five a year,
Speaker 2: the expectations that Brad Holmes and company are gonna obviously
Speaker 2: have to update to keep your mirror now. Whatever the
Speaker 2: other thing is like when they're like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: even the possibility of a trade, when have you known
Speaker 2: this regime to go get that trade? Mass Crosby was
Speaker 2: just in the fucking market when you could afford to
Speaker 2: do it in twenty twenty three, they did not do it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that the trade argument no avoid in my opinion,
Speaker 2: unless we're dealing with a different and I don't want
Speaker 2: to deal with another GM group, But unless we're deal
Speaker 2: with a different regime that they're not. They're not doing that,
Speaker 2: let alone have the money to do so. Then afterward
Speaker 2: too like it just you gotta have like a detailed
Speaker 2: game plan. And if doesn't discuss me to pay running
Speaker 2: back twenty six million dollars, I ain't gonna lie. It
Speaker 2: does for sure without a doubt. But the the reality
Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lion situation is they're within striking distance.
Speaker 2: Like it or not, are the top four team in
Speaker 2: the NFC? I don't know, but I know they're good
Speaker 2: enough to be. In the conversation, they're amongst the top
Speaker 2: ten teams that were in striking diss of a Super Bowl, right,
Speaker 2: and so like, you pay the guy now on top
Speaker 2: of the fact you've never been this team to begin with,
Speaker 2: and you're find what the striking iss are doing it
Speaker 2: you gotta stay there. You gotta stay in the pocket
Speaker 2: this team, this offense. Jared Goff needs everything around him,
Speaker 2: all due respect to him, but he does. Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 2: helps him tremendously. You need to play action with Jared Goff.
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs allows that for you. He's a threat in
Speaker 2: both the pass and the run game. You pay Jamir Gibbs.
Speaker 2: But one thing I would do, I'll tell you this though,
Speaker 2: and I would play hardball because Jamiir I love you
Speaker 2: to death, and you are a tremendous football player. But
Speaker 2: you got two more years left in your contract. Brother,
Speaker 2: if I could let you hold out, and it's coming
Speaker 2: regular season, that's you're the one being fined, not me.
Speaker 2: Not they need Troy Lions. And if you want money,
Speaker 2: all right, Gibbs, I'll give you twenty six million. But
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, but we're two years away from
Speaker 2: this happening. I'm not guaranteeing much of it. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonn say I won't get you. I'm saying I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get you at all, but I'm not guarantee you much
Speaker 2: of it. Like, let's get there first and then we'll
Speaker 2: get you your money, you know.
Speaker 3: Super chat from g He says, way to hold it
Speaker 3: down on the eleven show, Easy hashtag ride for the Heavies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just And the reason why that happened to
Speaker 2: is like, listen, you can disagree with them what you want,
Speaker 2: that's fine. Don't say shit that I'm not saying. That's
Speaker 2: where Boodoo was going with and I had to fucking
Speaker 2: be like, all right, pussy, send me the link, yeah,
Speaker 2: and shout out to them though. Listened to the link. Yeah, kid,
Speaker 2: shy Way.
Speaker 3: And I'm salty says should have paid Gibbs last year.
Speaker 3: I mean, you probably could have got him for twenty
Speaker 3: million dollars a year if you did. Obviously, hindsight's twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: But that's what they've done with these players. And the
Speaker 3: argument that they make is all the money that you
Speaker 3: spent on offense, you've spent a lot of money on
Speaker 3: your defense too, Yeah, dj Reid, Ali McNeil, Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 3: Jack Campbell, Kirby Joseph. Like, it's not like you're just
Speaker 3: not paying for a defense. You still have hundreds of
Speaker 3: million dollars allocated to that side of the ball as well.
Speaker 3: So it's not like you've only paid offensive players and
Speaker 3: the defense is just barren of contracts. No, you paid
Speaker 3: guys over there too, And when you have a guy
Speaker 3: like Jamir Gibbs, it's not a question, man, you just
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I'll do the money. I'm not guaranteeing much
Speaker 2: of it. Gibbs. We got two years before we even
Speaker 2: get to this point. That's why, like Bijon's a three years,
Speaker 2: because you already got the fifth year additional you know,
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, that's what I would like to
Speaker 2: sign the same exact contract as Bijeon. I'm good with it.
Speaker 2: And the one last thing, real quick, nick too, that
Speaker 2: I'd like to like argue back with. And I get it,
Speaker 2: like you're not looking at top paid running backs and
Speaker 2: Super Bowls like often. But Saquon Park they did it. Yep,
Speaker 2: he's top five paid back in the position. We went
Speaker 2: Sup Bowl with the Eagles, and listen, they haven't cashed
Speaker 2: in on the Super Bowl, but you've seen Chrisian McCaffrey
Speaker 2: appear in lots of Super Bowls and was a big
Speaker 2: part of getting them there. Shot the Great White Hope.
Speaker 2: I was saying, like, Christian McCaffrey also consistently one of
Speaker 2: the highest running backs to National Football League.
Speaker 6: Agreed.
Speaker 7: And one thing about Christian McCaffrey, Let's start with Saquon
Speaker 7: because he did win the Super Bowl and he was
Speaker 7: averaging six yards a touch when he led the NFL
Speaker 7: in touches. Saquon Barkley last year fell off a cliff
Speaker 7: with it at four and a half yards per touch.
Speaker 7: And that's the thing with these running backs when they
Speaker 7: do get used this much, which we are expecting Jamir
Speaker 7: Gibbs to be able to handle and become a perennial
Speaker 7: top three NFL running back in the league like acmc
Speaker 7: like you just mentioned when he led the league in
Speaker 7: touches in twenty nineteen with four hundred and three of them,
Speaker 7: following season seventy six touches. Again in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 7: when he led the league in touches with three hundred
Speaker 7: and thirty nine, he only had sixty five the year
Speaker 7: after that. And that's where I'm just you have to
Speaker 7: be careful when spending this money on a player that
Speaker 7: will get that many touches. You are going to get
Speaker 7: that super good electric year where you'll go down in history,
Speaker 7: and you better cash in in a Super Bowl in
Speaker 7: that year, because I'm not expecting him to be the
Speaker 7: kind of player the following season, Like Christian McCaffrey in
Speaker 7: those two seasons when he was undeniably the best, fell
Speaker 7: off a big clut through to injuries, or Saquon last
Speaker 7: year when they did cash in and got the six
Speaker 7: yards per touch, but the following season four and a
Speaker 7: half yards per touch for Saquon and obviously took a
Speaker 7: big step back for the Phillies or for the Philadelphia Eagles, yeah.
Speaker 5: But my pushback to that has always been, like with Saquon,
Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about somebody that's not right now,
Speaker 5: five years older than Gibbs, So you're talking about down
Speaker 5: the line. You talking about the back end of that contract,
Speaker 5: and how many times do we see these NFL teams
Speaker 5: and gms just able to maneuver that last year or
Speaker 5: two and you know what, you got a guy who's overpaid.
Speaker 1: For a year or two.
Speaker 5: But you can, you could package some things around it,
Speaker 5: you can figure it out. You'll have contracts coming off
Speaker 5: the books. So to me, I'm not worried about it
Speaker 5: at all. You do it ten times out of ten
Speaker 5: for Gibbs, you have to. I think the Bijon price
Speaker 5: tag is fair. Now now you are gonna have to
Speaker 5: probably go above that. But I'm curious because, like I
Speaker 5: said a week ago, when we said, you know, what
Speaker 5: was the reason why why is Gibbs in the Lions
Speaker 5: not having an agreement?
Speaker 8: And I thought, I think he's waiting for Bijon.
Speaker 5: So now, depending on how fast this deal gets done,
Speaker 5: will tell me if this was because he was waiting
Speaker 5: for Bijon or because him and the Lions are very
Speaker 5: far apart, and they have, they have some progress to
Speaker 5: be made.
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is when I was having my
Speaker 2: fits with Jared Goff is because and whatever disagree with
Speaker 2: that or not, I feel like Jared Golf needs a
Speaker 2: lot to go.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: We saw him with twenty two and the roster was
Speaker 2: so pretty. As the rosters continued to progress, so did
Speaker 2: Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, but also the difference there is a quarterback is
Speaker 2: taking like fifteen percent of your salary cap. When you're
Speaker 2: paying them that amount of money, Our running back is
Speaker 2: not twenty five twenty six ain't killing you, no, the
Speaker 2: same way a quarterback contract would. No. It's the other
Speaker 2: thing to Factually, throughout the history of the NFL, the
Speaker 2: salary cap increases six to eight percent every single year.
Speaker 2: Another thing too, that twenty five million he hitting the
Speaker 2: books as twenty five million, handcuffing. You know what you
Speaker 2: can do that year. It's gonna be chopped up, pro rated, backloaded,
Speaker 2: stuffed in the avoid years down the line. It's the
Speaker 2: twenty five million as much as like it's a goddamn
Speaker 2: that is a lot for a running back, It really is.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's shocking. I got shocked when I read it.
Speaker 2: For Vijon is not killing you.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, guys, imanna, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna list some names real quick, and I want you
Speaker 3: to tell me who you would rather have as a
Speaker 3: weapon in your offense. The guy I'm about to say,
Speaker 3: or Jamier Gibbs. All right, so let's go with Jalen Wattle.
Speaker 6: Gibbs.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about what about Courtland Sutton? What about Christian Watson,
Speaker 3: Kelvin Ridley, DJ.
Speaker 2: Moore, Jamiir Gibbs, Alec Pierce, Jamiir Gibbs, Brandon Jamier Gibbs.
Speaker 3: All of those guys make over twenty six million dollars
Speaker 3: a year. Jami Gibbs is not just a running back.
Speaker 3: He is a weapon. He is one of the most
Speaker 3: explosive players in the National Football League. And if you're
Speaker 3: afraid to pay him wide receiver too money, then you
Speaker 3: don't want a good offense.
Speaker 7: Are you concerned at all about what I brought up
Speaker 7: about the touches when you do have to carry the
Speaker 7: load of you know, getting that many carries and receptions,
Speaker 7: Because we know it's not just the carries. For Jamiir Gibs,
Speaker 7: one of this game is being a weapon. Are you concerned,
Speaker 7: like the guys I mentioned with CMC specifically getting all
Speaker 7: those you know receptions as well to go along with
Speaker 7: the carries and then a Saquon falling off one and
Speaker 7: a half yards per touch in.
Speaker 6: The Super Bowl year?
Speaker 7: Are you concerned about that with a guy like Gibbs
Speaker 7: when he isn't the biggest.
Speaker 6: Bruiser of a Derek Henry esque build.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not scared of that because that's what you need.
Speaker 2: You need him to do that.
Speaker 3: If you want to be a team in the NFL
Speaker 3: competing for a Super Bowl, you need Jamiir Gibbs. That's
Speaker 3: how your offense is built. That's the pieces you have
Speaker 3: around you. We've already said this team needs to have
Speaker 3: the number one offense in the NFL if it has
Speaker 3: a chance of doing anything.
Speaker 2: In the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Can you have the number one in the offense in
Speaker 3: the NFL with a backfield of Isaiah Pacheco and Rahiem
Speaker 3: blackshear No, you fucking can't. You need Jamiir Gibbs and
Speaker 3: this window is built around him.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: He is a top three player, top four player on
Speaker 3: your team. So those prime years, those three years. That's
Speaker 3: your window.
Speaker 1: And we talk like.
Speaker 2: It's not the the Lions have all these No, you have.
Speaker 3: Your guys are getting older, they're getting into their contracts,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be thirty pretty soon. Like it's you have
Speaker 3: to pay him because right now is your window where
Speaker 3: all of your guys are still twenty five, twenty six
Speaker 3: years old and you're going to try to win a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: And again this season you're bringing up nick is when
Speaker 5: Sakuon Barkley is twenty eight years old and come in
Speaker 5: and you know has fifty sixty more games played than
Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs at this point. So like, right now, I'm
Speaker 5: signing him to that contract because the NFL has shown
Speaker 5: me between the riseing cap, between what you could do
Speaker 5: with the void years that you could get off of.
Speaker 5: You could get off of almost any contract in the
Speaker 5: NFL if you need to pivot. But right now with
Speaker 5: Gibbs being more than just a running back being so
Speaker 5: important to this offense, the run game being so important too.
Speaker 5: Jared Goff specifically, I don't think there's any question you
Speaker 5: could love it or hate it, but like you have to,
Speaker 5: you have to sign them to it because there's just
Speaker 5: no alternative. Otherwise you're wasting. You're not wasted. But then
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to either use a high end first
Speaker 5: round draft pick on another running back and get the
Speaker 5: best back back in the draft, or you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to or you're gonna have to play though the running
Speaker 5: back carousel, and that can go one.
Speaker 1: Of two ways.
Speaker 8: That's a very shaky, very roll of the dice. I
Speaker 8: don't risk it.
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is just the amount of carries
Speaker 2: Mirror Gibbs have seen. Fuck the games. The carries himself
Speaker 2: obviously split the backfield Monty different than the workload the
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley and Chris we're tasked with. You're not, He's not.
Speaker 3: He's not getting the same touches as Derrick Henry or
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley. A lot of his aren't coming, you know,
Speaker 3: right up the middle, breaking off of people diving down. No,
Speaker 3: it's on the outside, it's pitches and stuff, And obviously
Speaker 3: that's a little bit of a difference, But then when
Speaker 3: you're talking about a three hundred carry season, it makes
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Speaker 2: easy you want to spend more racks shot with the
Speaker 2: super chat in there real quick.
Speaker 3: He says. According to Jeff, the Lions could sign Jeff
Speaker 3: right now and he could rush for one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty six yards with seven catches for one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty nine yards with the Lions. O line.
Speaker 2: I mean, I Jeff's more of a power back these days.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking. Oh yeah, man, I just
Speaker 2: you've seen job literally went you went and win you
Speaker 2: the Giants game, like damn their single handedly the office
Speaker 2: was giving nothing consistently went to O T to get
Speaker 2: to the crib. He's a threat that any given moment, Well,
Speaker 2: without further ado, do he turn his phone sideways?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: Do we get the phone? No, not yet, Lucas turn
Speaker 3: your phone side boom. You used to be a TD.
Speaker 4: Come on, fuck camera, I'm on my camera. I'm on
Speaker 4: my webcam.
Speaker 3: Oh dad, it looks fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Warwick.
Speaker 1: Yeaheah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was practice today.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was rough. It was a rough practice. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna know what ship, but I would like in No,
Speaker 4: I go in there and I'm like, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't really have expectations. I just kind of go in there.
Speaker 4: Observe had to get my takeaways. I'm not going in
Speaker 4: there trying to confirm narratives, but I will say today
Speaker 4: fucking just offense, defense, special teams was fine, all right there.
Speaker 4: Jake Bates all reliable, he was looking good, but there
Speaker 4: was misthrows by Jared Goff and Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 4: has been looking rough. I've been to camp only two days,
Speaker 4: but both times he looked pretty rough. Amra looked like Amro,
Speaker 4: Laporta looked like Jamo had two drops. Tesla really didn't
Speaker 4: get any targets. I'm trying to just run down the
Speaker 4: position here. You love it, Dominic love it. And Greg Dortch,
Speaker 4: I think those two are gonna have a nice little
Speaker 4: battle for a wow, this is a pretty full screen here,
Speaker 4: fellas my lord, but I think those two to be
Speaker 4: fighting out for the returner battle. I think Dorge looks
Speaker 4: really good, and I think the fact that he didn't
Speaker 4: just come to Detroit to join petsing for no reason,
Speaker 4: I don't think. And I think when you look at
Speaker 4: Greg Dortch and you look at Cleef Raymond, they're pretty
Speaker 4: similar in style. But I would say especially as a receiver,
Speaker 4: Greg dort is more of a bag so I definitely
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be focal point. It's at least with
Speaker 4: the return game and like as a little third down
Speaker 4: option there. Defensively, let's think here, no Derek more today.
Speaker 4: Oh bad day from Rake Straw, Rake Straw. God, they
Speaker 4: were doing like the one on one individuals with I
Speaker 4: believe he was. He was a match up with Jamo.
Speaker 4: This was like at the beginning and it wasn't down
Speaker 4: the field. I'm talking about at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: Jamo made him fall and touch dirt and it was
Speaker 4: it was. It was bad, like like did like a
Speaker 4: jab and then he just gone to one handed. It was.
Speaker 4: It was a bad look for Nnis Rakestraw. But I
Speaker 4: would say that was like there was nobody on the
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball today. He stood out. Hutch
Speaker 4: was getting worked by Blake Miller, which is a good
Speaker 4: thing in my opinion. We know that Hutch is a
Speaker 4: very good all pro type level player, and I was
Speaker 4: watching for three or four reps and Blake Miller each
Speaker 4: time was holding his own. So I will say offensive defensively,
Speaker 4: it was not a good day the skill players. Jamier's
Speaker 4: not out there. They didn't look like they were having
Speaker 4: a good day outside of like Amen Roth, which you
Speaker 4: already expect Theporda. I think he had a drop, but
Speaker 4: nothing crazy. It was just an underwhelming day though, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not walking away like I went on Sunday and
Speaker 4: other Holy fuck, like Derek Moore, that's gonna be a guy.
Speaker 4: Tesla looks really fucking a tesla. Excuse me. There's a
Speaker 4: couple guys in the secondary that you could point to
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, we got some white. But today I
Speaker 4: will say it is exciting watching Jack Campbell. No matter
Speaker 4: what drill, no matter what speed it is, He's tackling
Speaker 4: somebody on the ground every play, Like if somebody gets
Speaker 4: wrapped up, Jack Campbell is throwing it. There was people
Speaker 4: in the stands getting upset because they're like, someone's gonna
Speaker 4: get hurt. Actually it's like, dude, I don't give a damn.
Speaker 4: It looks like, honestly, you guys have went this year's camp.
Speaker 4: I think it's like when you had ag and Ben
Speaker 4: Johnson controlling the offense and the defense and then Dan
Speaker 4: Campbell on top of it. If you were a player,
Speaker 4: you couldn't breathe you were running on the field every time.
Speaker 4: There was no bullshit, there was nothing on the sideline happening.
Speaker 4: It's not like these guys aren't locked in, but there's
Speaker 4: a level of locked in that was there the first
Speaker 4: couple of years with ag and Ben Johnson that's not there.
Speaker 4: And Jack Campbell going out there tackling somebody every time
Speaker 4: he does, flying around like that's what I want out
Speaker 4: of the middle linebacker. You just give a lot of
Speaker 4: money too. So I will say it seems I'm not concerned.
Speaker 4: It's only the third fourth day of training camp, but
Speaker 4: it does seem just like a step behind of what
Speaker 4: I've been going to the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: And you've talked about the defense. You know, nobody really
Speaker 3: popping outside of Hutch a little bit. But what about
Speaker 3: ty Leek in the in the middle. He's had a
Speaker 3: good camp so far. They've been talking about him. He
Speaker 3: made some plays with me and Easy were there. He
Speaker 3: was dominating Kid Mays a little bit. Did you see
Speaker 3: anything from the big buck guy in the middle.
Speaker 4: He looked good, he looked like he was moving on.
Speaker 4: I honestly didn't get too good of a view when
Speaker 4: they were doing like one on ones, but I will
Speaker 4: say like he was definitely winning more than he was losing.
Speaker 4: I don't think there was a play where that holy
Speaker 4: fuck ty Leaf just blew up the pocket. But there
Speaker 4: wasn't a play where I'm like, well, what the fuck
Speaker 4: just happened to ty Leak? There he's getting drove off line,
Speaker 4: Like there's none of that. I will say Cad mays
Speaker 4: a couple of times. I don't know who it is.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the roster on me today. It might
Speaker 4: have been Lacy. I could be wrong. Somebody worked. I'm
Speaker 4: pretty bad though today at the end of like the
Speaker 4: first team and is what it is? Man again, I
Speaker 4: heard you saying it yesterday, spending, but like when it
Speaker 4: comes to centers, like you're not expecting them to be
Speaker 4: one on one a lot and take what it is again,
Speaker 4: And I've heard you say yesterday as well. He's not
Speaker 4: Frank Ragnow, okay, he's not Creed Humphrey. He's a serviceable
Speaker 4: B B minus C plus center and you're hoping to
Speaker 4: surround him where maybe he's the quote unquote week point.
Speaker 4: But if that's the weak point, you're all right with that.
Speaker 4: It's a good it's a good NFL starter, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I would say with Tylee, he he looks like he's
Speaker 4: in shape, he looks like he's ready to go, And
Speaker 4: I think I agree with the take that both I
Speaker 4: think both you guys have it, but between him and Jack,
Speaker 4: like I go back to like when I think of
Speaker 4: run stopping tandems, I think of Vita By and Levonte David,
Speaker 4: and I think I don't think that TYLERK. William is
Speaker 4: going to be Vita Bay level when it comes to
Speaker 4: run stopping. But I definitely think Jack Campbell is on
Speaker 4: that Levonte David level. But those two, again they're not
Speaker 4: direct comparisons, but as far as impact, I think he
Speaker 4: could be similar.
Speaker 2: Did you get an your eyes on the DB's today.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have questions about the secondary,
Speaker 2: particularly the dB two battle between racers Straw and Rocky
Speaker 2: scene guys and those guys.
Speaker 4: Rock had a couple of good reps. It looked like
Speaker 4: they could have been switching on and off. But for
Speaker 4: the most part today Rakestrawl was running a lot with
Speaker 4: the ones, and during teams he was, like I said,
Speaker 4: during teams, he wasn't really getting cooked on that much.
Speaker 4: During indies he was didn't stick out like he wasn't
Speaker 4: really making many plays, and I think you could say
Speaker 4: the same thing with white Side. Trying to think honestly,
Speaker 4: Maddix had a solid day.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not going out there saying, oh, that's a huge takeaway,
Speaker 4: but he had like a good day turning up there
Speaker 4: when it comes to Keith Abney, shout out Keith. That's
Speaker 4: how I get my tickets in training camp. He's been
Speaker 4: looking out when it comes to Keith, good day or
Speaker 4: a good play, bad play, good play, bad play, very consistent.
Speaker 4: Looks like a rookie out there, but at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, he's one of those guys that's flying
Speaker 4: around that's not like lily gagging, like fucking off looking
Speaker 4: in the sands like Keith locked in. I didn't really
Speaker 4: see much from izzy En today.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 4: I really, I didn't you really remember seeing him out
Speaker 4: there that much, but I'm sure he was. But kind
Speaker 4: of quiety from him too. As far as the DB's
Speaker 4: goes again outside, DJ Reid had a couple of good plays.
Speaker 4: I think Jamo one of the drops that he had
Speaker 4: went in there and he picked it off. So awareness there.
Speaker 3: What about uh, Like you mentioned a little bit the
Speaker 3: intensity kind of of without Ben Johnson, without Aaron Glenn
Speaker 3: holding those guys accountable, but even me an easy notice
Speaker 3: like glass uh compared to last year. In the year before,
Speaker 3: they weren't hitting as hard, like you mentioned, Jack Campbell
Speaker 3: is kind of the only one taking guys to the ground.
Speaker 3: Was that kind of the vibe again, just not as physical,
Speaker 3: not as as kind of boom boom as it's been
Speaker 3: the past couple of years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a completely different level Jack Campbell. I will say,
Speaker 4: hassanin that boy is trying to start a fight every
Speaker 4: play that he can. And you can see, like I
Speaker 4: think it was who's a backup tight end obviously got
Speaker 4: a porta Conklin. I'm blanking on the name, not rock right,
Speaker 4: and the other one like farther down the line, like fourth.
Speaker 1: Fifth Jody Meeks.
Speaker 4: I don't know either way down the line that tight
Speaker 4: end they were like second third team and you could
Speaker 4: see they're getting a little chippy and Hastenin like bumped them,
Speaker 4: and then the tight end the kind of like slapped
Speaker 4: them on the head like good luck the next up
Speaker 4: when they're at it, there was a fight started. So
Speaker 4: I will say that they're bringing the fire between Camill Hasnin.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it's just like maybe it was different
Speaker 4: for us just because as Lions fans, like you weren't
Speaker 4: going to camp getting excited about everything, and then you
Speaker 4: see Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn all the shiny toys that
Speaker 4: they have, and it's like everybody's excited. But I think
Speaker 4: even like in camp this year, like you can feel
Speaker 4: like between the players and the coaches like this, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of question marks going on on the field
Speaker 4: right now. It's at least on the defensive side. It's
Speaker 4: how it feels.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 4: I will say, oh, I will say this. The run
Speaker 4: defense today sucked.
Speaker 3: Sucked.
Speaker 4: Kelvin Shepherd was losing his mind. Shep's getting fired up
Speaker 4: and he's getting into it. But like it was every
Speaker 4: other place, Sailors was going twenty five yards down the field,
Speaker 4: not even the Teck Jacob Sailors. So that was concerning.
Speaker 2: Shout out Gale Sailors, shout the sailor. Damn, that's not
Speaker 2: that's not great.
Speaker 4: It mixed. I would say, there wasn't too many times,
Speaker 4: but Checo got loose whenever he would try to turn
Speaker 4: the corner. The pursuit was there, but with the twos,
Speaker 4: yes for sure, and with the Wills Anzo or not Anso.
Speaker 4: I wish Rodrigo was running a lot of the will today,
Speaker 4: at least with the starters. And then I'm trying.
Speaker 6: To think Devin White at all.
Speaker 4: He was there and he was there on Sunday, but
Speaker 4: I feel like they've they're still kind of easing him in. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think they're trying to get him too much
Speaker 4: into the playbook right now. I feel like, honestly, Devin
Speaker 4: White's gonna be somebody that's like you want on the team.
Speaker 4: I don't He's not gonna be starting, but if he
Speaker 4: has to start, your confidence in it. But I definitely
Speaker 4: think like Nawaki's gonna be running the backup for Derek
Speaker 4: Barnes at Sam and then you're gonna have there could
Speaker 4: be a battle. I'm imagining that Rodrigo is going to
Speaker 4: be starting for them and they're going to have a
Speaker 4: rotation with Devin White in between that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw Rodrigo left practice today with like an
Speaker 2: inkle injury, but he came back. It was like playing
Speaker 2: with his family and stuff.
Speaker 4: Nothing. There was no like notable injuries today, Like even
Speaker 4: when Derek Moore got hurt on Sunday. I saw him
Speaker 4: like kind of holding his huming it a little bit,
Speaker 4: and you could tell like he pulled something, but he
Speaker 4: was good, like it didn't look like anything significant.
Speaker 2: Some of the articles I was reading from the day
Speaker 2: too said Alee McNeil had a big day. Did you
Speaker 2: catch you his place?
Speaker 4: Yeah, A Liam looks good. Bleam does look good. I
Speaker 4: don't think he was a dominant force out there today,
Speaker 4: but he does. I'm not concerned about Alin going into
Speaker 4: this season. I think just coming off a major knee injury,
Speaker 4: another major injury in general at that side, after you
Speaker 4: just lost a bunch of weight, like your body's not
Speaker 4: going to recover how it normally should. He's getting forced
Speaker 4: back in a situation where they need him when he's
Speaker 4: coming back from injury didn't play well. I think just
Speaker 4: the season, or I should say an off season getting
Speaker 4: healthy and allowing him to just kind of corn back
Speaker 4: in the fit, he'll be all right. I don't again,
Speaker 4: I don't want to go too far into it, but
Speaker 4: I'm I don't love the lim McNeil contract by any means,
Speaker 4: and I wish there was a way to be able
Speaker 4: to find a way to get him to another good destination.
Speaker 4: I like Leam, don't get me wrong, but us like
Speaker 4: I honestly think Tyleek will probably near the same levels
Speaker 4: him this year. But that's not a bad thing either
Speaker 4: when you're talking about first round pick and Lee McNeil's
Speaker 4: a third round pick coming out NC State who just
Speaker 4: played really well so far in a crew.
Speaker 6: Nick got a question for you speaking of first round
Speaker 6: Sir Lucas Cott.
Speaker 7: You talking about that defense, you know, not being able
Speaker 7: to stop the run, but how did the defense look
Speaker 7: going up against hopefully future starting right tackle Blake Miller.
Speaker 7: Any big standouts for the rookie in Detroit? And what
Speaker 7: did you think about the draft pick at the time.
Speaker 4: I was I was not in the same boat as you,
Speaker 4: but I was in the same let's call it the
Speaker 4: same ocean as you when the Blake Miller trick or
Speaker 4: pick happened. Like I I it was a necessary pick,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't one that I wanted by any means. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I really liked I'm going to say it wrong, out
Speaker 4: of Arizona State. I just think on upside wise, yes,
Speaker 4: I don't think he would have been the palace product
Speaker 4: that you want day one, but I think upside there
Speaker 4: was a lot there. But who am I Like, they
Speaker 4: got a right tackle, that's what they needed to do.
Speaker 4: So going into today, he was out Sunday, he wasn't
Speaker 4: practicing much and so I was like, Okay, I want
Speaker 4: to watch Blake today, and they were. I was able
Speaker 4: to get a good look of him and hutch multiple
Speaker 4: times going out of one on one and hutch really
Speaker 4: didn't even I mean he moved them. Its Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 4: like he shut down the side that he needed to.
Speaker 4: There was no like if that was a live rep
Speaker 4: like golf was not getting touched. And I think obviously
Speaker 4: there would have been reps where hutch is gonna be
Speaker 4: gettinghim in the future. But to see that right away,
Speaker 4: like Aiden Hutchinson's a top three defensive end, top five
Speaker 4: defensive end football hobby on Rank. It for rookie to
Speaker 4: go in there and hold its own a couple of
Speaker 4: reps on the fucking fourth day of camp and he
Speaker 4: missed Sunday like, it was very encouraging. So I was happy.
Speaker 3: And do you think that was more of the byproduct
Speaker 3: of the you know, the lack of run defense. There
Speaker 3: was the offensive line probably getting chewed out a little
Speaker 3: bit because when we were there, the defensive line was
Speaker 3: kind of having their way with them. We saw, you know,
Speaker 3: Tyler Williams moving guys around. We saw Hutch beat Pennay
Speaker 3: a couple times, and Blake Miller get beat by dj
Speaker 3: Wanham and by a couple other guys. Do you think
Speaker 3: it was kind of the offensive line being like, all right,
Speaker 3: we got to go get our get back, because I.
Speaker 2: Remember last year that's how it was.
Speaker 3: It was one day the offense would go crazy and
Speaker 3: the next day it's four interceptions. The defense is going crazy.
Speaker 3: Or was it just kind of the defense getting sloppy.
Speaker 4: I think it was the defense getting sloppy because there's
Speaker 4: even times where in the second there they weren't communicating,
Speaker 4: linebackers weren't getting owhere to fill the gaps that they
Speaker 4: needed to. And again it was more with the second unit.
Speaker 4: The first unit was okay, but there was still time
Speaker 4: in the first you know where you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Remember easy when you were talking about Thomas Harper and
Speaker 4: I might have been Whiteside, but where you're just like
Speaker 4: Helvin Shepherd can only do so much because these guys
Speaker 4: get on the field and then they get lost really quick.
Speaker 4: And that's what it kind of seemed like today, at
Speaker 4: least in the secondary and those backside backers I.
Speaker 2: Was watching like middle school or sometimes watching that table.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was again, these are professional athletes, Like these
Speaker 4: guys would fucking kill me if I tried to go
Speaker 4: out there on the cleats. But when you're comparing a
Speaker 4: professional athlete to another professional athlete, it definitely was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we need to lock in.
Speaker 3: Here, especially an all pro like Kirby Joseph H Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I heard. They did like a setup where they were
Speaker 2: trying to go down the field in like two minute
Speaker 2: drills something like that, and the practice and the defense
Speaker 2: was performing well golfing to throw one away because a
Speaker 2: lean and then with Kirby's dropped one, who do you
Speaker 2: burn on that? Do you know?
Speaker 4: So the first one that actually went down the field
Speaker 4: and they got it was like a little Porta I'm
Speaker 4: and Rod drive and then I think I'm in rock touchdown.
Speaker 4: It might have been Laporta. And then they went down
Speaker 4: for another drive and they had Jamo fucking wide open.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I can't recall who was covering
Speaker 4: them at the time, burnt them butt naked. Nobody was
Speaker 4: in ten yards and then Golf like checked it down
Speaker 4: and then you look at the pocket and then it
Speaker 4: was a lean getting in there, and so you could
Speaker 4: tell they're trying to get Jamo going on that drive.
Speaker 4: Yes's practice, but obviously just find a rhythm with Jmo
Speaker 4: connection here. And then Golf actually threw a really nice
Speaker 4: fucking paths was one on one on the sideline, and
Speaker 4: then it was I think it was covered too. Jamo
Speaker 4: had him on his hip, safety was coming over and
Speaker 4: Golf like pinned it perfectly, like right here, and it
Speaker 4: was one of those those catches where it's like, Jamo,
Speaker 4: this is what you need to do so people can
Speaker 4: say you're better than George Pickens. Hit the ground. And
Speaker 4: then right at that moment it kind of seemed like
Speaker 4: the rest of practice. It's like not that they weren't
Speaker 4: taking it serious, but you could see like there was
Speaker 4: an intensity like it kind of like they let their
Speaker 4: uh fo, yeah, yeah a little bit. And then I goin, know,
Speaker 4: not a lot of action today with Tesla at all,
Speaker 4: at least during like live reps.
Speaker 2: Who was there in Washington. Was it a Wobbler or
Speaker 2: was it dark.
Speaker 4: No, it was like Golf was like there was some misthrows,
Speaker 4: but Golf was throwing the ball pretty well today, Like
Speaker 4: he was doing really well to touch and lay in
Speaker 4: his throws. Accurate.
Speaker 3: Who was the uh.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Who's starting in safety for the Lions defense?
Speaker 4: They were rotating them. Like I said, Maddix was out
Speaker 4: there a lot, but there wasn't like a set duo
Speaker 4: that I saw. Honestly, Izzian was out there a lot.
Speaker 1: Who would you want?
Speaker 4: I'd want the vets back there. Man, I don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck. I do not want this. We're not in
Speaker 4: a situation where it's like, hey, we're trying to develop
Speaker 4: this player to take over and become a starter. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: you need to apply press around the quarterback and just
Speaker 4: hope to God that when somebody gets through that second
Speaker 4: level of Jack Campbell, there's somebody there that can wrap
Speaker 4: up in the open field and make a tackle. Because
Speaker 4: the lines are gonna be putting up points. I think
Speaker 4: their offense is going to be humming. It just comes
Speaker 4: down to don't let up big fucking plays. And I
Speaker 4: think when you have younger guys back there that yes,
Speaker 4: they're more athletic than a Chuck Clark. But if it's
Speaker 4: Cover two, if it's Cover four, I trust that Chuck
Speaker 4: Clark understands where he needs to be in Cover two
Speaker 4: or Cover four versus Hey, I'm learning the NFL and
Speaker 4: I'm trying to cover Justin Jefferson right now to make
Speaker 4: sure he doesn't burn us deep. I just think that
Speaker 4: if you put veteran guys out there, it's gonna limit
Speaker 4: the airs. Honestly, I think it's funny.
Speaker 2: The youngction, for sure is what we need. Man, he
Speaker 2: said the middle school football. Again, I'll say that sounds respectful,
Speaker 2: but like these guys just fucking lost. It's a legion
Speaker 2: to whom for a reason. Yeah, I'll do respect to him.
Speaker 3: Shallott Mallet fall Itt like, I'll come on.
Speaker 2: Stop it easy every time the offense sucks in not Gosfaul.
Speaker 3: What the fuck did I do?
Speaker 2: What the fuck did I do? You read somebody's content, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've read the guy's coming.
Speaker 3: It was a good question. You're not It's a good no.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's fair, wasn't he my question for somebody
Speaker 2: else's question.
Speaker 1: Well, we're not gonna do what.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna do is say he throws wounded ducks.
Speaker 2: That's what we're not gonna do.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: On the season, I've got talked about the team and.
Speaker 1: Here at all, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's gonna be a lot like the year they
Speaker 4: went fifteen and two and then they got I don't
Speaker 4: think they're gonna get bounced first round. But I feel
Speaker 4: and you guys can agree, I think maybe the Seahawks
Speaker 4: are the first team in a while that came out
Speaker 4: of nowhere and won the Super Bowl. Like I feel
Speaker 4: like normally you have a pretty good idea based off
Speaker 4: the lack of question marks that teams have, that this
Speaker 4: is a super Bowl contender. You look at that defense
Speaker 4: or offense, I'm fine with. Like I think the offense, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you can go win a super Bowl with that offense,
Speaker 4: regardless of your opinion on Jared Goff, that team can
Speaker 4: go win a Super Bowl offensively, defensively or suit What
Speaker 4: is the cliche saying defense wins championships? And we've seen
Speaker 4: it the last decade, damn near that that has proven
Speaker 4: true time and time again. Huknakua, Davonte Adams, Davonte Smith,
Speaker 4: And you can say what you want, Makai Lemon is
Speaker 4: gonna be really fucking good. Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison. There
Speaker 4: are at you can keep going. Damn even the Cardinals,
Speaker 4: who are probably the worst team in the NFL, Marvin
Speaker 4: Harris and Michael Wilson, Like I bet that like that
Speaker 4: wide receiver duo would work the Lions, And you're talking
Speaker 4: about now a linebacker corp with just Jet Campbell that
Speaker 4: you can really count on weekend week out. I think
Speaker 4: they're gonna be a really good team in the regular
Speaker 4: season with the week schedule that Fortunately the last two
Speaker 4: weeks you go on the road to Chicago and you
Speaker 4: go on the road to Green Bay, so you're finishing strong.
Speaker 4: You're not like cake walking into the postseason. But at
Speaker 4: some time, like there's going to be injuries and there's
Speaker 4: going to be a time where it's just like, you
Speaker 4: know what, they're the better team. You go up against
Speaker 4: Kelvin Shepherd in year two, who's going to improve, and
Speaker 4: then Drew Petsing, who I think are good coordinators. They're
Speaker 4: gonna get out class at some point. I just don't
Speaker 4: think this is the cream of the crop like that
Speaker 4: you'd expect out of a Super Bowl contender.
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Speaker 4: So come on, Jeff, just something of your number ment
Speaker 4: I'll reach out after this. Yeah, I was leaving camp
Speaker 4: or Lucas, you know, I'm like an hour away, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, who the fuck knows? I got scared. I
Speaker 4: was like, what's what's going on here? Like, what's about
Speaker 4: to happen?
Speaker 3: Lewis?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Derek Barnes. I'm pretty sure Barnes parents were sitting
Speaker 4: in front of me today and I was really I
Speaker 4: wanted to ask, but at the same time I didn't
Speaker 4: because it's like there there's some turmoil there. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: good times, good time. Shout out doc, shut magnifying glass
Speaker 4: on that whole situation right in this article on Sports
Speaker 4: Illustrated about me and Derek Barnes Twitter beef, not.
Speaker 2: Fun, shout doctor covering stuff like that, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: what does it?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 8: R I P Doc, Come on, what's up?
Speaker 2: Let you get going here? Speak your piece and the
Speaker 2: on the on the Jeff and the.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've gotten like this upset about it.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind me and Jeff have been been debating this.
Speaker 4: I said this is going on like two and a
Speaker 4: half seasons because after his rookie season, like, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: gonna be a dude, I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 4: you're thinking if you're looking at this offense where we're like, hey,
Speaker 4: Kate Mays is not an elite center. Hopefully Tate Ratlie
Speaker 4: is really good, like we all expect to be what's
Speaker 4: just Christian Mahogany looking like, but like there's stills like
Speaker 4: this offensive line is an elite You got a literal
Speaker 4: traffic cone at fucking quarterback and Jared Goff. You are
Speaker 4: paying a lot of money to Okay, and you're gonna say,
Speaker 4: you know what, we have a top five skill player
Speaker 4: and the whole entire sport here. I want the rookie
Speaker 4: out of Rutgers. See Kyle Manung guy him here. Well,
Speaker 4: let's get a Kyle Manung guy over here. You know
Speaker 4: he's gonna be cheap, he's gonna be efficient, and he
Speaker 4: might give you ten touchs. Dude, you're paying Jamir give
Speaker 4: what twenty six to let's say thirty on the rough
Speaker 4: side million dollars are why why are people bitching about
Speaker 4: paying your all pro running back one and didn't make
Speaker 4: a peep when you signed your proll Bowl wide receiver too.
Speaker 4: And I like Jamo, but if you're telling me, Jamiir
Speaker 4: gives us the focal point of this offense, the focal point,
Speaker 4: the thing that scares the shit out of off or
Speaker 4: out of defensive coordinators is yes, I'm and Rod's really good,
Speaker 4: but it's not his route running in hands, it's not
Speaker 4: Jamo's hands. It's maybe Jamo's speed, but it's the fact
Speaker 4: that you have that on top of an offense with
Speaker 4: Jamir gives a running back. I hear people all the time,
Speaker 4: Well CMC hasn't brought the Niners a super Bowl. Well
Speaker 4: he got him pretty fucking close. He got them to
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl where they literally went into overtime. And
Speaker 4: if Brock Perdy can hit a fade route to Juwan Jennings,
Speaker 4: they're hosting a trophy. And let me even let's backtrack,
Speaker 4: how are the Carolina Panthers after they traded Christ McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: How were they offensively, what did they turn into? Dookie
Speaker 4: Rico fucking Dowdle. That's so, that's who we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the Tennessee Titans after Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: Left, but Tony.
Speaker 6: Who what are we?
Speaker 4: If you look at all these elite backs and the
Speaker 4: team that they left, they all offensively fall off the
Speaker 4: face of the earth because they just lost their identity.
Speaker 4: It's a defensive league. I think in twenty fifteen to
Speaker 4: like twenty twenty, you'd have more of an argument, but
Speaker 4: it's now come from Oh, this is a vertical passing
Speaker 4: league where we got to put up as many points
Speaker 4: as possible. Like I think when Joe Burrow went to
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, that was the last year you could
Speaker 4: get away with that shit. Because everyody's like, let's focus
Speaker 4: on defense. The best thing to support a really good
Speaker 4: defense is an elite running game, because when you have
Speaker 4: an elite running game, you only got to score like
Speaker 4: twenty points a game if your defense is really good.
Speaker 4: Let's look at the Houston Texans. If the Houston Texans
Speaker 4: offensive line is top fifteen with David Montgomery and CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 4: who I think is like a ten to fifteen However,
Speaker 4: on ring he's a good quarterback, he's not great. They
Speaker 4: just hand the ball off to David Montgomery, get CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud two hundred yards a game. They'll be fine because
Speaker 4: they have that defense. Now, imagine having that with Jamiir
Speaker 4: Gibbs and I'm andros Saint Brown. You're not paying Gibbs
Speaker 4: right away, like everybody look at like like his his
Speaker 4: money's gonna hit now now, Like.
Speaker 2: No, exactly twenty six millions getting spreads franchise tagle fran.
Speaker 4: How much do you get a franchise tag him for?
Speaker 4: It's gonna be probably like fifteen to twenty million dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you want to say five mil. That's what we're
Speaker 4: doing here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you for the twenty.
Speaker 4: Six million dollars. Do you know what twenty six million
Speaker 4: dollars on the line roster this year? It's DJ Reid
Speaker 4: and Derek Barnes. The defense already sucks with them, It's
Speaker 4: not gonna it's probably gonna be the same level without him.
Speaker 4: Would you rather have Derek Barnes and DJ Reid or
Speaker 4: would you rather have Jamiir GiB I think I can
Speaker 4: draft me me, send me down to sec Land. I'll
Speaker 4: go find you a linebacker then a similar production effect
Speaker 4: on the field as Derek Barnes. I bet you're asked
Speaker 4: you can go in a free agency this year and
Speaker 4: find one year deal or trade or third round pick
Speaker 4: like you did for Carlton Davis for a DJ Reid.
Speaker 4: Like people are acting like you get Jamiir Gibbs and
Speaker 4: just shut down the season. You have no chance of winning. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's let's make sure that Jamiir gives on the field
Speaker 4: this year. How was that season going?
Speaker 3: That's my That's my point is Woonder kept talking about it,
Speaker 3: and I love him, you know, he's our special little guy.
Speaker 3: But like when he talks about like uh oh, you
Speaker 3: gotta save the money, you gotta save the money. Jamiir
Speaker 3: Gibbs is the guy you're saving money for. Like you're
Speaker 3: not saving money to re sign Larry Boram, you're saving
Speaker 3: that money to pay Jamiir Larry twenty five million dollars Larry.
Speaker 4: Because the thing is too they're gonna save money. Like
Speaker 4: let's say hypothetically they don't re sign jami Gibbs one,
Speaker 4: I'm transferring my fandom whatever team he I hope you
Speaker 4: go to the fucking Bears. Dude, I then Bears, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn into a Bears fan, and I will
Speaker 4: pray on every Lion's game downfall.
Speaker 3: Watch him on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Oh you see him on the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Put on tight d That's why I put him with
Speaker 4: cam Warden Carnel Tate. I'd be a happy man. What
Speaker 4: was I saying? Now I got off track?
Speaker 2: Help me here, fellows, you would transfer your fandom before that, though, I.
Speaker 4: Was saying something, Oh oh so the Larry Boram right
Speaker 4: if Gibbs, if Gibbs didn't sign here, do you guys
Speaker 4: actually think that, oh Gibbs isn't signed here, Let's go
Speaker 4: get Max Crosby. Now, Like people have to look that
Speaker 4: just if you don't extend Gibbs or.
Speaker 2: That Brad Holmes is just gonna change who he is.
Speaker 4: As an overall GM and just start going give me
Speaker 4: those like you're just gonna win every all for Like
Speaker 4: fuck no, dude, he's going to get even more bargains.
Speaker 4: He's gonna go find a bargain at Long Snapper. He's
Speaker 4: gonna let he's gonna let all the tight end room walk,
Speaker 4: and he's gonna go find the bet he's gonna go
Speaker 4: sign Jawan Johnson in three years when he's worth six
Speaker 4: million dollars and say, let's fucking run it Like no,
Speaker 4: dude that he's not Brad Holmes is always gonna be
Speaker 4: somebody that finds comfort and not risking a lot of assets.
Speaker 4: I think, oh, he would have loved him. He would
Speaker 4: have loved Lake career. DeMarco Murty, like you, going back
Speaker 4: to our point, you let guys like David Montgomery wall,
Speaker 4: you keep the guys like Jimi Kids just very simply.
Speaker 2: Put it, yep, if there was any other running back,
Speaker 2: like he says, running back like they're all equivalent. No,
Speaker 2: Jamiir's the especial year version of this position.
Speaker 6: You hang on at it real quick here, Klatts.
Speaker 7: I would just want to bring up the point I
Speaker 7: brought up earlier with paying a guy like Gibbs and
Speaker 7: a guy like Christian McCaffrey. When he had four hundred
Speaker 7: and three touches, he had seventy six. The next year,
Speaker 7: when he had three hundred and thirty nine and led
Speaker 7: the NFL, he had sixty five the next year. Does
Speaker 7: it concern you when you do become that, you know,
Speaker 7: top three running back, and you know, really key piece
Speaker 7: when you take all those touches and all those hits
Speaker 7: that the next season, if you are getting paid the
Speaker 7: twenty six million. We've seen it affect this team with
Speaker 7: a Kirby Joseph right now currently, we've seen this affect
Speaker 7: this team with an Ali McNeil. When you pay one
Speaker 7: of these guys, you know, top dollar and they get
Speaker 7: hurt the next season, your team's had a pretty big,
Speaker 7: you know downfall.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but you just named three or four
Speaker 4: really good players who got hurt, like it's inevitable, like
Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs is eventually going to get hurt, like every
Speaker 4: player is. I think the only player on the Lions
Speaker 4: who I really don't worry about getting hurt is golf
Speaker 4: because before a defensive lineman gets there, he just falls.
Speaker 4: Which is you don't stay healthy, don't care if you
Speaker 4: get hurt that then of the season's really is over.
Speaker 4: But when it comes to Gibbs, it's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: probably gonnet hurt at some point. Christian McCaffrey has had
Speaker 4: many significant injuries. Like even before he left, he was
Speaker 4: in Carolina and he got banged up a couple of
Speaker 4: times while splitting a backfield. But he goes to San Francisco,
Speaker 4: he gets hurt, and then what does he do the
Speaker 4: next year? He comes back and he's Offensive Player of
Speaker 4: the Year, comes back and he's an MVP level guy,
Speaker 4: comes back and helps one of the Super Bowl injuries.
Speaker 4: You can't be just be like, oh, I'm scared of
Speaker 4: him getting hurt, because why he's a fucking running back.
Speaker 4: Why aren't we scared when Jamo got extended? Like Jama
Speaker 4: already has blown up his knee before and has inconsistencies
Speaker 4: a lot of them off the field early in his career,
Speaker 4: but he's had injury history. I'm Rossaint Brown at injury
Speaker 4: history going back to college's senior year, Like, why is
Speaker 4: it now that we worry about the injury bug because
Speaker 4: it's Jamior Gibbs. Yes, it's because he's a running back. Well,
Speaker 4: what has he shown you, like, oh, injuries coming he
Speaker 4: a concussion. I think his rookie season that he missed
Speaker 4: two games and he still probably could have played. Like,
Speaker 4: there's no injury concerned. So I'm not like, yes, it's
Speaker 4: going to happen. You up. I'm back Jamier Gibbs. Jonathan
Speaker 4: Taylor has went through injuries, Like there's so many guys.
Speaker 2: That's my thing is like like he's had an argument
Speaker 2: for anybody.
Speaker 4: He's not anybody.
Speaker 7: When you lead the lead the NFL and touches specifically
Speaker 7: the next following year, it's a big time regression or injury,
Speaker 7: which I that's I'm just saying, be aware of that.
Speaker 2: I would just say though in the scenarios though, like
Speaker 2: look at the weapons Detroit Lions have versus like those
Speaker 2: situations Jim saying like I don't think Ji is gonna.
Speaker 2: I don't think he can touch. Yeah, because we have
Speaker 2: Amarad Saint Brown, Sam Reported, James and Williams.
Speaker 3: It's just and like when you're talking about money wise
Speaker 3: and oh you don't pay a running back twenty five
Speaker 3: million dollars, but you'll pay Alec Pierce twenty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: Like you say, is that I know?
Speaker 4: Yes, I know, maybe maybe a different wide receiver. Let's
Speaker 4: use that's a comrade. Okay, he's putting on for the
Speaker 4: white chocolate. Al Right, he's doing his thing. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I I I will never understand it.
Speaker 2: Seven and a half.
Speaker 4: Six fucking nuts. Yeah, I don't crazy. I I truly
Speaker 4: will never.
Speaker 3: Understands making more money than justin Fuck, it's just just
Speaker 3: for me, Like, if.
Speaker 2: You're going to be so strongly opposed to it, give
Speaker 2: me the names, right because because that's what the conversations
Speaker 2: like with Sheila. If you if you sit there and
Speaker 2: tell Sheila, hey, I'm getting one of our best players
Speaker 2: and one of the best players in the NFL, what's
Speaker 2: the game plan? Then Brad, Oh, I'm gonna spin it
Speaker 2: on defense. Okay, who, don't worry, We'll find him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll find someone. And no, that's not how that conversation
Speaker 2: is going to go.
Speaker 4: His hit rate after the Laporta Branch draft. When it
Speaker 4: comes to drafting, the thing that fucked them was how
Speaker 4: he's just decided to get way too. If they don't
Speaker 4: take Cioni Vaki, they don't take Giovanni Manu, they don't
Speaker 4: take all these risky developmental players and you just take
Speaker 4: a solid player there, they wouldn't be in this position.
Speaker 4: They would not. Yeah, so it's you shouldn't be blaming
Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs for the fact that all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: extending your all par running back hampers this team. Well,
Speaker 4: listen to what you're saying like this is not people
Speaker 4: always talking brought up, well, Kenneth Walker left the Seahawks
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. Yeah, and he's not as good
Speaker 4: as Jamiir Gibbs. And think about if they didn't have
Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker and they had fucking Tony Power. Let's just
Speaker 4: use him for the sake of the conversation. Again, They're
Speaker 4: not going to the super Bowl, dude. The Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 4: with Saquon. They're paying Saquon fourteen million dollars. Okay, so
Speaker 4: pay Jamir twelve more. I'm okay with it. He's pretty
Speaker 4: damn good. You can literally do it. They were paying
Speaker 4: so much Mellory money on the defensive line, like they
Speaker 4: have the Eagles always have so much money tied up always.
Speaker 2: Cotts man, I appreciateaking the time, but the show, what
Speaker 2: are you going back to? You got any other days?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure yet. I probably will at some point.
Speaker 4: Definitely not tomorrow. I'm blow So I'll let you guys
Speaker 4: know though. I'll try to get to me.
Speaker 3: I'll i will.
Speaker 4: If I can't go, I'll definitely send him your way.
Speaker 4: I'll get some CIA footage. I wasn't able to get
Speaker 4: any today. The I don't at the front was eye
Speaker 4: me and my dude. I was with down not let
Speaker 4: it's get any foot it. I got a couple of
Speaker 4: videos yesterday. I'll send them to you guys if I
Speaker 4: get anything.
Speaker 3: I had a battie looking at me in camp the
Speaker 3: other day.
Speaker 2: I don't believe I know. I was about to pull
Speaker 2: the phone out.
Speaker 4: Put the number on there.
Speaker 2: Take it, clos Appreciate you. People want to know where
Speaker 2: you're at these days. I want to keep up with Clotsie.
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Speaker 4: Keep up with me. My My Instagram is down there.
Speaker 4: Luke's Underscore you fucked up. There's two Underscore, the Undercore
Speaker 4: Underscore Clocks. But I'm doing follow the Journey as well
Speaker 4: on all socials. I've been working with Darren Rencher and
Speaker 4: then a lot. Got some big things coming there collaborative wise,
Speaker 4: and then I launched my content agency. It's called Next
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Speaker 4: Abney trying to figure out his strategy for it all.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be working with him alogue and content
Speaker 4: as well as other couple of Michigan players. But big
Speaker 4: things coming man. Obviously, you got are doing your thing.
Speaker 4: I want to keep supporting you and anytime you want
Speaker 4: to have me on.
Speaker 2: You get a picture with Caleb Blooms just daped him up.
Speaker 4: I just tapped him up.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying.
Speaker 4: Caleb Roman didn't get a picture with I want to
Speaker 4: get a picture with Vic too. That was disappointing. Sometimes
Speaker 4: they just get like, I don't know, scared is the
Speaker 4: right word. But it's just like somebody just killed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he killed the picture. You turn this, you turn the phone,
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Speaker 2: That's the thing too. I'm not a big fan of
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Speaker 2: it feels too Yeah, I'm with you that one.
Speaker 4: I will say this too. I met Julian saying the
Speaker 4: other day Heisman, Heisman, it's kind of a prick. Heisman.
Speaker 2: Heisman sell the Fians in his arms. He's an Ohio
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Speaker 3: I mean he's definitely on the.
Speaker 4: Price. Underwood was a board too. No, no, no personality.
Speaker 2: There can I say one thing to I'm nervous. Priced
Speaker 2: is like all the highlights or all the practices, and
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Speaker 4: I don't I think with wittingham Man, they like if
Speaker 4: they it's smart to run the ball. I don't think
Speaker 4: he especially last year, like his fundamentals are all off.
Speaker 4: But the runner that Dud's gonna be dangerous in Utah.
Speaker 4: When they have a mobile quarterback going back forever, they're dangerous.
Speaker 3: Team appreciate that.
Speaker 4: It's a rising Sorry, are talking about Lobby Fellas.
Speaker 6: I think I think possibly win it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the weapons they have is just fucking nuts.
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Speaker 2: By the way, welcome to to have weight. Slidrich sports
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Speaker 2: and share the stream. Uh so we got Lucas clots
Speaker 2: take I read some takeaways as well, come from a
Speaker 2: guy justin Rodgers coping from Eric Schlitt. One name that
Speaker 2: consistently kept popping out from today's version of camp, which
Speaker 2: I'm happy to read because YESHU say it was quite
Speaker 2: the opposite for the performance was Alee McNeil. Alee McNeil
Speaker 2: two TFLs and one team period, took a break, went
Speaker 2: the individuals, came back Ali McNeil with another TfL in
Speaker 2: eleven eleven team period and then come the game situation
Speaker 2: did in the back half of the practice. To close
Speaker 2: it out with a two minute drill, Alee McNeil got
Speaker 2: in the backfield swim mover Kade Mays, forced pressure on
Speaker 2: Jared Goffrim to throw that thing out of bounce and
Speaker 2: then come post practice, here's Tate Ratlis, a promising guard
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, talking about going against Alee
Speaker 2: McNeil from the other side of the one earlier man
Speaker 2: Aleen I told him.
Speaker 13: I told somebody the other day how excited I am
Speaker 13: to get a full camp against him at when he's
Speaker 13: one hundred percent because he's really good and obviously what
Speaker 13: I saw from him last year in practice, he's a
Speaker 13: completely different player.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 13: He's explosive, strong, So he's getting me better every day
Speaker 13: and we're gonna go back and forth, but me going
Speaker 13: against him every day gets me better.
Speaker 2: So that's coming from Ratledge who got beat by Lean
Speaker 2: multiple times a day too. They also got some comments
Speaker 2: from Christian Mahogany speaking the same thing. As I was
Speaker 2: there with a Lean before the injury, I saw him
Speaker 2: post injury. I could officially say Olden lem is back.
Speaker 2: And that's something you'd like to hear for guys making
Speaker 2: a top five as got kicked out of the top five.
Speaker 2: I think he's out of the top five, Okay, top ten.
Speaker 2: Contract the defensive tackle position, so you want to hear
Speaker 2: out of a team that's desperate for this team to
Speaker 2: stop the run and get after the quarterback. The defensive
Speaker 2: line is it means so much. Obviously any team it does,
Speaker 2: but this team in particular, because you really only have
Speaker 2: Jack Campbell back there right now until we get Brian
Speaker 2: Branch at the very least back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, you need it, you need it.
Speaker 3: And when you're looking at what you have on that
Speaker 3: defensive line, I talk about a jump coming for Tyler
Speaker 3: Williams that is going to create a ton of one
Speaker 3: on one opportunities for a guy like Ali McNeil. So
Speaker 3: when healthy, when they're when ready to go. He has
Speaker 3: shown the ability to take advantage of one on one
Speaker 3: opportunities in the NFL before he is going to be
Speaker 3: seeing a lot of those on the defensive line with
Speaker 3: guys like Aiden Hutcheson and TYLERK Williams commanding double teams.
Speaker 2: It's good. No, this is one thing because I got
Speaker 2: duped last year. Mccampbell was hyping up Leean McNeil in
Speaker 2: practice like always coming back, He's coming back. Body's I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, let's go for all the reasons
Speaker 2: I told you guys, was like ten sacks him and
Speaker 2: hutch combined four before they got hurt. Yeah, then you know,
Speaker 2: lo and behold the season happened like this ain't this,
Speaker 2: ain't McNeil. No, it's some fucking boofu, it's some fake shit.
Speaker 2: What the fuck's going on? By fuck you now here
Speaker 2: from the guy's going to get some practice on top
Speaker 2: of here, and the reps from reports too, like hey,
Speaker 2: he's getting the backfield two TFLs oh another TfL always
Speaker 2: forcing go off to the ball away and then you
Speaker 2: have post practice. They're not asking about Lee Neil specifically,
Speaker 2: they're asking Tate, who's giving it to you out there?
Speaker 2: Ali McNeil, And he only had one day to say
Speaker 2: and it was Alee McNeil. So I just that's that's
Speaker 2: great stuff for me. Uh as detro line fan excited
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: I think on paper, this is the most talented defensive
Speaker 3: line that Brad Holmes has assembled in his tenuere when
Speaker 3: you look at the assets that they have put into it,
Speaker 3: with multiple first round picks, a second round pick, a
Speaker 3: guy you're paying, you know, a decent contract in Dj Wantum,
Speaker 3: a third round pick that you paid a top ten
Speaker 3: contract in Ellly McNeil. They should be the best defensive
Speaker 3: line that Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes have had in
Speaker 3: their tenure because of the amount of assets that you've
Speaker 3: put into it. And I believe when healthy, they will
Speaker 3: be and I think the biggest X factor of that
Speaker 3: is going to be Elie McNeil because I think you
Speaker 3: know what you're going to get from Hutch obviously. I
Speaker 3: think you know what you're going to get from DJ Wantum.
Speaker 3: He's been in the league enough to know the level
Speaker 3: of play that he's going to bring for you. I
Speaker 3: think we can all comfortably expect a bump from Tyler Williams.
Speaker 3: Maybe not everybody as much as I do, but I
Speaker 3: think I think everybody can expect a bump from Tyler Williams.
Speaker 3: Alie McNeil is the X factor. If you can be
Speaker 3: that Elie McNeil that we saw in the New York
Speaker 3: Giants game getting double digit pressures by himself, you're going
Speaker 3: to have a pretty formidable front end, and you need
Speaker 3: that when you have as much turmoil in the secondary
Speaker 3: as you do.
Speaker 2: So the other thing I like, and that's why I
Speaker 2: can't wait to get back to shout out to uh,
Speaker 2: shoutout sup Finn Hutch, our guy Mike. By the way,
Speaker 2: we'll be down there. I think it's the tenth we'll
Speaker 2: be down there with him, or seventh. I could get
Speaker 2: the days mixed up either way. I want to get
Speaker 2: there and get eyes on because of the names I'm
Speaker 2: reading constantly in camp. I'm reading right now to Tyler Williams,
Speaker 2: Alee McNeil, Tyler Lacy. When I look at the commonality
Speaker 2: between those guys on the inside, that's also somewhere the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions desperately needed to prove on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of the football. So I'm thinking, like, damn, we have
Speaker 2: we not taken that step on the offensive line or
Speaker 2: these guys are taking steps one getting healthy for Lee McNeil,
Speaker 2: Tyl Lacy, get adjusted the system, and then Tyler Williams,
Speaker 2: obviously second year player.
Speaker 7: I'm concerned about the first sent It's exactly we keep
Speaker 7: talking about for multiple days in a row here, how
Speaker 7: cade Mays isn't Frank Ragnow and Lucas said, how he's
Speaker 7: not Linderbaum and we all know that, but we didn't
Speaker 7: ask him to be that when we signed Caid Mays.
Speaker 7: We asked Caid Mays to be a quality center in
Speaker 7: the NFL, not getting blown up every play, because we've
Speaker 7: seen what this offense does against really good defenses when
Speaker 7: the interior is getting blown up every play, and it
Speaker 7: hinders Jared Goss specifically with his inability to escape the pressure,
Speaker 7: and it does hinder mister soon to be twenty six
Speaker 7: million dollars a year running back Jamiir Gibbs, who was
Speaker 7: getting spanked in the back end of the backfield last
Speaker 7: year at times and he couldn't even escape it.
Speaker 6: And we know how elusive Jamiir Gibbs is. So with
Speaker 6: Caid Mays and left guard who it may be.
Speaker 7: If it is Mahogany who spoke you know, highly of
Speaker 7: a Lee McNeil, which is great to hear. But if
Speaker 7: it is Mahogany and kid May's, which I projected to be,
Speaker 7: I need to definitely start hearing some more positive things
Speaker 7: coming out of camp or else I'm gonna get a
Speaker 7: little bit worried because it's not against the Saints, but
Speaker 7: when it's against you know, the upper aschelon, say the
Speaker 7: Vikings who you lost to twice, who knows how to
Speaker 7: really put pressure on your interior offensive line, then you're
Speaker 7: starting to talk about losing games, which you shouldn't because
Speaker 7: you maybe went bargain ben a yee bet in terms
Speaker 7: of getting a Cad Mays and not getting a serious
Speaker 7: left guard in here.
Speaker 3: And shout out to hinder in the chat. I saw
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Speaker 2: Tyler Williams. I'm here for the update. I'm here for
Speaker 2: the upgrade. It's your two that's expected of you your
Speaker 2: sophomore season. But like a guy with Tyler Lacy who's
Speaker 2: been in the league for three or four years, are
Speaker 2: we is he making a fifth year jumping or tier offensive?
Speaker 2: I mean he had a couple plays last year.
Speaker 3: We heard yesterday that Christian Hagany was winning these one
Speaker 3: on one reps with Eli McNeil. Tate Ratlis has had
Speaker 3: a very good camp so far.
Speaker 2: It's kind of just.
Speaker 3: Been is getting blown up a little bit and again again,
Speaker 3: how often in is your center going to be going
Speaker 3: in one on one isolation reps with a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen very often. But these are eleven
Speaker 3: on eleven drills, and stuff is happening, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Flipping eleven on eleven. The defense got off to a
Speaker 2: strong start with Jack Campbell stuff in a run, Tyre
Speaker 2: Lacy swimming past Tate Radite for a stop in the backfield,
Speaker 2: and rock your sin dropping Jacob sailor's close on the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage on a run that bounced to the perimeter,
Speaker 2: A lean McNeil all secure in a tackle for a
Speaker 2: run on a loss in the play for a loss
Speaker 2: on a run play. I apologize, but it means early
Speaker 2: in camp. Yeah, I guess it's probably a little bit
Speaker 2: of both. We're being honest a little bit because I'm
Speaker 2: not necessarily saying boom, the interior offensive linement suck. It's
Speaker 2: a situation that has to gel, it has to progress.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of combo blocks. We're working together.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be stumbling and stepping on each
Speaker 2: other's feet. And and then at the top of the
Speaker 2: fact too, like in springtime, it sounds like me, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the situation was in particular, but like
Speaker 2: was was was mahogany ready available? You know, to have
Speaker 2: that chemistry knockdown pack with with with kid Mays.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Even Pine stool get adjudged the less side of the
Speaker 2: offensive line too. It's I'm not gonna kill the offensive
Speaker 2: line just yet.
Speaker 3: We expected growing yeah, we expected growing pains from this
Speaker 3: offensive line.
Speaker 2: And we talked about how not only any.
Speaker 3: Type of communication on the offensive line takes a little
Speaker 3: bit of time to build, but with the complex running
Speaker 3: schemes and blocking schemes that Drew Pettsing offers, it might
Speaker 3: take a little bit longer, but they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I'm not too worried about it. They're they're much more
Speaker 2: They're much improved than they were last year. I saw
Speaker 2: when I one footage death not a deal if that's
Speaker 2: in eleven eleven, that's from uh hed on over sports chat.
Speaker 2: I'm salty with a reasonable not not as doom or take.
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Speaker 2: Which sports dot Com easy? Must have been more raction
Speaker 2: on Chris Nicholas call off in the rook Dom Pacella
Speaker 2: shout the stallion real quick? And then which sports Chats
Speaker 2: is everyone laughed at Brad to take me gibs ear, Well,
Speaker 2: now it's time to pay him. Otherwise, he really did
Speaker 2: waste a draft pick that said, I do believe he's
Speaker 2: getting signed. I'm not worried. I'm not worried about him
Speaker 2: getting signed. As a great point, because you kind of
Speaker 2: did waste a draft pick if you're not going to
Speaker 2: resign at this point. Nope, you did not say it's
Speaker 2: a stallion like Yeah, you didn't say like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say it like that.
Speaker 2: He didn't sound nearly as cool as you said it.
Speaker 2: Domb talking Detroit Lions camp. We got division rivals that
Speaker 2: fish better than the Detroit Lions last year. Yes, I
Speaker 2: want to know what's going on there. They're looking good,
Speaker 2: they're looking worse. What's what's going on around the NFC, north.
Speaker 12: Man, I know it's a mix, it's a mix. We
Speaker 12: want to talk about the Bears first. I mean, those
Speaker 12: are the division winners. You look at their defense last year,
Speaker 12: they gave up the fourth most points in the league.
Speaker 12: They had an all Pro safety and they let him go.
Speaker 12: They let Kevin Byer walk in the offseason. They signed
Speaker 12: Kobe Bryant, just came off a Super Bowl with the Seahawks.
Speaker 12: Now he's out eight to ten weeks. Hyper extended his
Speaker 12: left knee. Now he's gonna be gone with an injury.
Speaker 12: But the Lions don't play the Bears until I believe
Speaker 12: week eleven, so that can makes it easier for the Bears.
Speaker 12: They're gonna still have a full defense likely and barring
Speaker 12: no further injuries for the team. But yeah, things are
Speaker 12: looking rough first ten weeks because that was supposed to
Speaker 12: be a key piece of the defense.
Speaker 2: As brutal Man, I feel like I get everybody's hind
Speaker 2: the Bears, but me sure, whatever last year. They had
Speaker 2: an easy schedule last year. They're getting hellatrovers. Not just
Speaker 2: Kevin Byer CJDJ two. Once he got there, they let
Speaker 2: him go as well. They also let go Brisker, They
Speaker 2: lost Kobe Bryant. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 12: And Brian was supposed to be a guy that gives
Speaker 12: you the super Bowl experience. It's an overall young team.
Speaker 12: Now he's moved on. They give him a forty million
Speaker 12: dollar contract, three years, forty million, I think twenty eight guaranteed.
Speaker 12: So now it's gonna be gonna be a little lifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just hate to see it, you know, Bears fans,
Speaker 2: I hate to see it bear down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, but sorry, But I think the Bears are
Speaker 3: gonna take a little bit of a step back this year.
Speaker 3: I think they have lost a lot of talent on
Speaker 3: that team. They're obviously playing first play schedule. I don't
Speaker 3: think they're gonna have the I hate to say like
Speaker 3: luck that they did last year, but the the I
Speaker 3: don't want to say luck that's bad. But I don't
Speaker 3: think their turnover situation is going to be the same
Speaker 3: and those comebacks are not going to be there. But
Speaker 3: I still think they're gonna be dangerous. When you have
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, you have what I think Caleb Williams is
Speaker 3: you can go out there and you can beat anybody.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they're going to be in the
Speaker 3: playoffs this year.
Speaker 2: Shot Tom Salty does Chris No, Devin White raises amage horses.
Speaker 8: I did not, and I now have a new favorite player.
Speaker 2: Shot light shot out my dog. What's going with the Packers?
Speaker 12: Packers, Well, I mean not much. Their kicker, I guess,
Speaker 12: is raising a lot of concerns.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie.
Speaker 12: He's like eight for thirteen so far the last few days,
Speaker 12: and he's not been impressive. But the star of that
Speaker 12: Packers team obviously Michah Parsons towards ACL last season. He
Speaker 12: just spoke for the first time all offseason, or at
Speaker 12: least in training camp started today. He said he wants
Speaker 12: to be back for Week six against the Cowboys. Hate
Speaker 12: is a hell of a motivator. If he wants to
Speaker 12: get back, he'll hopefully find his way back. But he's
Speaker 12: on the pup list. You're not gonna see him those
Speaker 12: first few weeks. And the Packers are usually you know,
Speaker 12: a little more conservative with their guys, putting him out there,
Speaker 12: especially coming after coming off in ACL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just that's one I'm very interested in
Speaker 2: because like Michael Parsons last year when healthy, obviously we
Speaker 2: saw he's doing damage. I mean we saw goal against
Speaker 2: our guy Pene Seul, and that was like earlier this
Speaker 2: year before we get thrown, like Opene was hurt. That
Speaker 2: was the narrow the first matchup, So like that was
Speaker 2: kind of brutal to see that we have to see
Speaker 2: this guy twice a year. A cl in a knee
Speaker 2: with a guy's kind of herky jerking, the style that
Speaker 2: he plays, they might be fucked a little bit. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 12: I mean we've said that about Hutch though, and Hutch
Speaker 12: came back and looked pretty Sam Hutch.
Speaker 2: Playing the same way Mike is with all the fucking
Speaker 2: little I'm saying, like Michael moves like a fucking cat.
Speaker 2: Hutch is like I'm bowl rushing and I'm sitting a
Speaker 2: spin move. Also different injury. Hutch was with a broken bone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, Michael will be fine when he comes back.
Speaker 3: When that is, I don't know, I don't know. They're
Speaker 3: probably gonna give him extra time. I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be completely fine. I think he's gonna be the same
Speaker 3: exact player, which is why the Packers make me very nervous,
Speaker 3: because you look at that defensive line man. Obviously you've
Speaker 3: got DeVante Wyatt, who you just paid. You bring in
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons when he gets healthy. Javon Hargrave looks like
Speaker 3: he is in the best shape of his life.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 3: No Miguel Cabrera, I don't know if you've seen any
Speaker 3: videos of him at camp, but he looks like he's
Speaker 3: in great shape. And Cooper is a handful wherever he is.
Speaker 3: Lucas Fanas as well. He looks like he put in
Speaker 3: a lot of work in the offseason. He's much bigger,
Speaker 3: noticeably bigger at Packers camp.
Speaker 1: So it's uh.
Speaker 3: They've got a pretty nasty front seven, one healthy, and
Speaker 3: obviously you know their offense is not flashy, but it
Speaker 3: does the job. And I think the Packers are going
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs this year, and they they make
Speaker 3: me a little nervous.
Speaker 2: Loves every single year he started.
Speaker 12: Does this slow things down in the beginning though, because
Speaker 12: they didn't win a game without Parsons. At the end
Speaker 12: of the season, they didn't win a single game we
Speaker 12: now win a single game without Parsons.
Speaker 2: No ship. That's interesting.
Speaker 12: Week fifteen, so I think they went three four that
Speaker 12: is those last few weeks. So I think that might,
Speaker 12: you know, kind of slow things down in the beginning.
Speaker 12: I think that leaves the Lions a little room.
Speaker 1: To catch up.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and now go to Minnesota. Got a rough quarterback
Speaker 12: battle going on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's who's what? What's going on there?
Speaker 12: So Adam Schefter just said, and I believe it was
Speaker 12: probably really hard for him to say. As Michigan mans,
Speaker 12: JJ McCarthy has kind of slid down the ranks Kyler Murray.
Speaker 12: I mean, that's a veteran start. It's crazy to say
Speaker 12: Kyler is a veteran. Now I'm getting old.
Speaker 2: But listen, JJ McCarthy isn't good at football.
Speaker 3: He's not. He's not a good football player. Like I
Speaker 3: know that he won a championship and that I will
Speaker 3: give him credit for that because he had the ball
Speaker 3: off forty times a game. He is not a good
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. He was never going to be a good
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. He wasn't prepared to be an NFL quarterback
Speaker 3: in college. He did not have the ability to do that,
Speaker 3: and they threw him right into the fire and obviously
Speaker 3: it didn't work out. Maybe if he was brought into
Speaker 3: a different situation where he could have sat behind a
Speaker 3: guy for a couple of years and really learned how
Speaker 3: to be a true pocket passing quarterback, that could have happened.
Speaker 2: He is not that, Like, Kyler Murray is so much
Speaker 2: better of a quarterback than JJ McCarthy. He's going to
Speaker 2: be the starter.
Speaker 3: And that's why the Vikings scare me a little bit too,
Speaker 3: because like they won nine games last year with Max
Speaker 3: Brozmer and JJ McCarthy and Kyle Tyler Murray is is
Speaker 3: a much better quarterback than them.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I fully expected Kyler Murray to take that job,
Speaker 2: like wholeheartedly, like not even close. But like some of
Speaker 2: the early reports from his name is Ben, I don't
Speaker 2: know his last name. I apologize. He's like the super
Speaker 2: nerd d Yeah, Ben Dover. He said JJ look better
Speaker 2: early early in camp, but that's like it could be
Speaker 2: he's new the offense better. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He probably saw one of those things that the Vikings
Speaker 3: fans post where it's the same throw from like Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 3: the step on Diggs and they posted every year JJ
Speaker 3: McCarthy's sixty yard touchdown on the first play.
Speaker 2: Does Kyler Murray scare you down? No, he scares me
Speaker 2: more than JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 12: It depends well, because they did re release Black Ops
Speaker 12: two and Black Ops one, So I think kin might
Speaker 12: be a little missy, but for real, I mean, like,
Speaker 12: I think the short jokes are a little out of
Speaker 12: hand with Kyler. I mean, yes, he is like five
Speaker 12: to nine. My friend Blake, he's a reporter at Fox
Speaker 12: ten Phoenix, he said he stood right next to Kyler.
Speaker 12: He's shorter than me, and I've been on the show
Speaker 12: called a Short King, so it's true. He said that
Speaker 12: he's the same height as Kyler, so really small guy.
Speaker 12: But I mean he was putting a really bad system
Speaker 12: in Arizona. I think the Cardinals are I think the
Speaker 12: Browns and the Jets get too much flak for the
Speaker 12: Cardinals being the most dumpster fire franchise in football, and
Speaker 12: I think Kyler finally escaped that. And I think the
Speaker 12: Vikings are legit. Kevin o'connells a real coach. I think
Speaker 12: that he could definitely be something there. But he's the
Speaker 12: fourth best quarterback.
Speaker 1: In that day.
Speaker 5: I will say that NFC North is gonna find out
Speaker 5: just what the fuck was wrong with the Cardinals because
Speaker 5: between Kyler Murray and and the offensive coordinator Drew Petsi,
Speaker 5: you're gonna find out who the fuck was wrong in Arizona.
Speaker 2: I think they're I think I think it was just Arizona.
Speaker 3: I'm with Dom. I think I think the Cardinals are
Speaker 3: a total dumpster fire. Even though it's notoriously one of
Speaker 3: the hardest places to play in the league, he said,
Speaker 3: State Farm is one of the hardest place said. He said,
Speaker 3: you know, teams don't just go into Arizona and beat
Speaker 3: the Cardinals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, beat the dogs ship out of them. Also, whatever
Speaker 5: you go there a must win games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 12: I was there twenty twenty four. I believe it was
Speaker 12: like Week four because you know, as U right there
Speaker 12: right by Glendale and I walk it, it's all blue,
Speaker 12: all Lions fans around me. Lions fans and Cardinals fans
Speaker 12: were drunk outside fighting. Unfortunately, the Cardinals fan won the
Speaker 12: fight made us like kind of soft. Damn you look
Speaker 12: the lower Bowl all blue.
Speaker 3: Heya, Mexicans could fight, though, was he? I mean, he's
Speaker 3: in Arizona. Was he a Mexican Cardinals fan.
Speaker 12: I don't remember, but probably there's no.
Speaker 3: Shame in losing fight to a Mexican. Those guys are
Speaker 3: tough and they know how to fight.
Speaker 12: I would say most Cardinals fans are Mexican because all
Speaker 12: the white people moved from different states and they all
Speaker 12: keep there. So there's probably a different bar for every
Speaker 12: single team in the league outside of the Cardinals in
Speaker 12: the Phoenix area.
Speaker 2: Point Petsing here, Kyler Minnesota, Jonathan Gannon a z. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry Jonathan Gannon in the pack as the Packers, all.
Speaker 8: Right, dude, he jocked my swagger at it one day.
Speaker 8: It was a great chet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was earlier to the party when everyone was
Speaker 2: throwing a fish about Drew Passing. I feel like he's
Speaker 2: one of the first one saying like I kind of
Speaker 2: like this one. And I'm looking at Arizona between not
Speaker 2: having a goddamn running back, Marvin Harrison Junior being overhyped,
Speaker 2: really the only things that had for certain was that
Speaker 2: the tight end and Michael Wilson, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: when he was available, and no quarterback. I'm not a
Speaker 2: fan of Klia Murray you guys have been watching this
Speaker 2: program for years know that already. I think he's too
Speaker 2: small to play a seventeen game season and being packedful
Speaker 2: into the playoffs that point shout out to in the chat,
Speaker 2: good to see it, brother, shout of Leo. Leo got
Speaker 2: his car broken into damn Yeah, like I don't know
Speaker 2: if they took anything but bust his window.
Speaker 12: Shout out praying for you.
Speaker 2: H good ship Dom, Yeah, good shit Dom, Thanks fellows.
Speaker 2: Anything else wants to speak before you.
Speaker 1: Let you go? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What about Kim? What's your Gibbs thoughts?
Speaker 12: I mean, you gotta payout And I know that's kind
Speaker 12: of like a narrow sighted take, but you look at
Speaker 12: this team. You have to keep this offense in gear.
Speaker 12: The defense is just I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 12: say abismo, but with injuries, it's abysmal. If you don't
Speaker 12: have Kirby, if you don't have Branch until the middle
Speaker 12: of the season, you're not looking good. You have to
Speaker 12: double your offense to make up for that lack of defense.
Speaker 12: And I think Shepherd is still coming to his own
Speaker 12: I'm not anti Shepherd, but I need to see more
Speaker 12: of him to say whether or not he's a good
Speaker 12: or bad DC. So you really need to build into
Speaker 12: this offense. We can't have Gibbs holding out or holding
Speaker 12: in until the season actually starts. You give him a contract,
Speaker 12: you make him happy. I don't know if you could
Speaker 12: defer payments in the NFL, but if you can, I
Speaker 12: think we just attack and win.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 12: The Rams are doing it and they're getting away with it.
Speaker 12: They're gonna win the super Bowl this year because they're
Speaker 12: paying everybody now and they're head hunting.
Speaker 8: We got to do that and keep our guys facts.
Speaker 2: Kjo Basis Neil Wan league Willis hashtag released a rule files.
Speaker 3: Rule files We actually we have them. We had a
Speaker 3: rule files contingent when Neil was apply was was in
Speaker 3: the running for the Michigan's broadcasting job.
Speaker 2: Huh, Like we had we had a plan set that.
Speaker 3: We were gonna wipe everything, Like if you got the job,
Speaker 3: we were gonna wipe everything. Like all they any Michigan
Speaker 3: bashing Neil segment, we had them all boxed, We had
Speaker 3: them all ready to go.
Speaker 2: Just get him out of there's probably for sure.
Speaker 1: Why the uh?
Speaker 3: Because he is so much better than Jeff Reager. It's
Speaker 3: not even like riger I'm sure is a nice guy
Speaker 3: or Doug Carsh Sorry, sorry, Rigers man, I like likes.
Speaker 2: Also went to fucking Michigan State.
Speaker 3: Rigers, he's kind of cree in the world. He pokes
Speaker 3: the bear. He has the tough with dot Gun. Rigas
Speaker 3: one of a few people in this town that's gonna
Speaker 3: ask the tough questions. And I will give him a
Speaker 3: lot of credit for that. Doug Carsh again, terrible, terrible
Speaker 3: play by play. Guy Neil is so much better at
Speaker 3: play by play. It's not even funny. But good ship
Speaker 3: Dom wait to knock it down. All right, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: The second straight day Detroit's defense failed to pick up
Speaker 2: a wheel route. On Monday, it was Sailors who was
Speaker 2: wide open. Today it was Isaiah Pacheko. That's something Cordinator
Speaker 2: Calvin Sheppard will need to correct with this group, and
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Speaker 3: So all right, that checks out, because if there is
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Speaker 2: You can put Wemby in there too. The third eleven
Speaker 2: eleven segment was treated as a drive. Starting at their
Speaker 2: own forty five yard line. The first team offense found
Speaker 2: the end zone with a seven play series. The big
Speaker 2: play was a tight window dart from Jared Goff between
Speaker 2: a triangle of defenders for twenty eight air gain to
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams down to the ten yard line. After a
Speaker 2: short run by Sailors for five yards, I'm sorry. In
Speaker 2: a five yard out by Amar Saint Brown, Golf found
Speaker 2: the porta on a third and goal play pick play
Speaker 2: that Clark wasn't able to successfully undercut. Uh three snaps later,
Speaker 2: facing thirty six, I'm in hostin clean. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: the second unit. I'm moving on. Went the final one.
Speaker 2: First team offense, first team defense. There we go. The
Speaker 2: ball was kicked off with thirty eight seconds for mating
Speaker 2: the offense down three holding a single time out, the
Speaker 2: clock was down to thirty four seconds of the small return.
Speaker 2: Things started well with a thirteen yard out route to
Speaker 2: Amara Saint Brown, who got a bounce. However, things started
Speaker 2: to stall after that chain mover. Pressure from Alee McNeil
Speaker 2: on the issuing first down forced to throw away, and
Speaker 2: Golf came a short on a second down throw for
Speaker 2: Saint Brown. Now third and ten, Saint Brown collibe with
Speaker 2: Clark in the middle of the field, causing an incompletion. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it probably could have been pass interference, but Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: signaled to incomplete. Facing a daunting fourth and ten, Golf
Speaker 2: delivered a perfectly placed ball the Jamison Williams twenty three
Speaker 2: yards down the right sideline, but the wide receiver couldn't
Speaker 2: hang on and resulting in the game ending turnover. Rundowns.
Speaker 2: It's not good. It sounds a little back and forth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: some good, some bad. I mean, obviously they scored in
Speaker 2: the other the third eleven eleventh situation.
Speaker 3: Really, mister Biggs with the super chat says, considering Jeff's take,
Speaker 3: should they have traded Gibb and kept Monty? Also, what
Speaker 3: do you think the return would be for Gibbs? If
Speaker 3: you're Jeff, then you should have that take. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you if you, if you're if you're in Jeff's camp,
Speaker 3: that's one hundred percent what your take should be.
Speaker 6: What do you guys think the return is from the kids?
Speaker 2: The first question I have, No I tried for today.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I don't think. I don't
Speaker 2: think we're actually going for first round picks at all.
Speaker 6: No, that's why I was.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I didn't bring it up earlier.
Speaker 7: But the a chain thing, like because I have brought
Speaker 7: it up in the past, Like, what do you think
Speaker 7: it takes to get a chain? If this deal doesn't
Speaker 7: get done? You know that's like that, because then with
Speaker 7: that ten million dollars more than you're talking about, he's
Speaker 7: signing Brian Branch, he's signing Laporta. Being able to keep
Speaker 7: both of them.
Speaker 2: Maybe you had to like a fourth or cross the fourth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I don't know what that looks like, I'll do.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I also direspectful to talk about.
Speaker 3: It would probably be like I would say, best case
Speaker 3: scenario to a two, and I don't even think you'd
Speaker 3: get that.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be like a third and a six.
Speaker 2: And at that point, I'd rather have Jamier Gibbs for
Speaker 2: even when we're talking about the defenders, Like, just think
Speaker 2: about how impactful Shamir Gibbs is this team. I can't
Speaker 2: tell you that I'm going to get two defenders or
Speaker 2: however many defenders at that price point to have equal impact.
Speaker 2: I just I just don't twenty six million and getting
Speaker 2: you what it used to.
Speaker 3: And you can pay these guys like you can pay
Speaker 3: Gibbs and Branch and Laporta.
Speaker 4: You can.
Speaker 3: You don't pocket pinch from those guys. It's you don't
Speaker 3: have the DJ Reads or the Derek Barnes is or
Speaker 3: the what's his name, Larry Borum an eight million dollar
Speaker 3: backup tackle, Like, those aren't guys that you have, but
Speaker 3: you can pay your big dogs. Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 3: it's just gonna happen. This is pointless pass over. And again,
Speaker 3: if it's it's twenty five million dollars, man, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna on a salary six every single year. That's not
Speaker 3: killing you at all. Is Jamiir Gibbs worth as much
Speaker 3: as DJ Moore?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Like come on.
Speaker 2: It's just also the situation you're in, man, you gotta
Speaker 2: lock in. You want to regress now if you start
Speaker 2: paying everybody, I'm gonna pay everybody this team to make
Speaker 2: a run. And then one of the guys considered like
Speaker 2: one of the best positions in the league, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna let walk. I just I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I did tell Jeff though, post debate. I was like,
Speaker 2: if you want to be pushing the branch stuff a
Speaker 2: little harder, you might have gotten me. Yes, I'm a
Speaker 2: big branch guy for sure, But even then I think
Speaker 2: I could realistly look back at him and say, Gibbs,
Speaker 2: I mean branch coming off of an injury year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not be you know, top tier, but still very
Speaker 2: good and get a little bit of a discount.
Speaker 3: And Steve Leeman exactly restructure Penne. You could still restructure
Speaker 3: Penne and Aman Rad Saint Brown, two guys that you
Speaker 3: know are going to play at this level for the
Speaker 3: next five years without having any question kick their contracts
Speaker 3: down a little bit. You only restructure golf.
Speaker 2: Check we get two hundred likes? Am I asking two
Speaker 2: hund jump Chris or we don't jump Chris. Whatever side
Speaker 2: you you guys decide on. You guys have some phenodel
Speaker 2: questions when it comes to like what kind of trades
Speaker 2: we can make? Who would you replace? Keep that stuff coming,
Speaker 2: because the very next segment is mail Band, mail Band,
Speaker 2: you know me shoddy and yes, we are making a
Speaker 2: new chap Yeah and gaming Gaming G fifty five says Yoh,
Speaker 2: Saint Brown and Sewell restructure their contracts. They'll be able
Speaker 2: to sign everyone they are they they're going to like.
Speaker 3: The only one that I don't know if they'll resign
Speaker 3: or not is Laporta, and that's because they've already been
Speaker 3: proven to move and replace tight Ends, even though that
Speaker 3: wasn't their guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can afford all these guys. You can't.
Speaker 2: And that was the whole plane all along.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And you and you're not worried about.
Speaker 3: Penny Soul or I'm gonna Saint Brown falling off anytime
Speaker 3: in the next five years, So you feel pretty comfortable
Speaker 3: restructure those contracts, kicking them down the road a little
Speaker 3: bit now, Jmo and Gibbs, those are different types of players.
Speaker 3: A god forbid, an injury could impact their careers much
Speaker 3: more than an Amina Saint Brown or a Penny School.
Speaker 3: So those are much more safer restructures in my opinion.
Speaker 3: And you're too bigger Country.
Speaker 2: I will not talk about trading Gibbs. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: you're not trading Gibbs.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a no brainer situation. You're paying it.
Speaker 3: Like Lucas said, you have a top five skill position
Speaker 3: player in the league, you pay them that period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing period period periods spinning, that's spending variant.
Speaker 2: For sure, we come back. We've got a penny soul
Speaker 2: of any variant plusure milback questions. Tell us about water hazard.
Speaker 7: I can tell you about water hazard because Thursday night,
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Speaker 2: funny mail Bakzacs. Which team makes you feel worse? Tigers
Speaker 2: or Red Wings?
Speaker 3: Red Wings for sure, Tigers future is extremely bright.
Speaker 2: At least he gave you a playoffs.
Speaker 3: Red Wings have a bright future, but not as like
Speaker 3: you got two guys on the Red or on the
Speaker 3: Tigers that you expect to be multiple time All Stars already.
Speaker 2: Tigers Revenger, I lost to Cleveland like.
Speaker 3: They're Scott Harris two for two now and I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna be three for three with Bryce Rainer, and
Speaker 3: I think Loronzo. I don't know if he's going to
Speaker 3: be this level of player, but I think he'll be
Speaker 3: a serviceable player at the very least. And Chris Rodriguez
Speaker 3: still has a lot of hope. And yeah, Brasenno looks
Speaker 3: like he's gonna be good. You got this new kid, Hope,
Speaker 3: who I.
Speaker 6: Think is going to be out at one five in
Speaker 6: his first set.
Speaker 8: Bet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, five off the bat though. Good to see it's the.
Speaker 3: Tigers for sure, because the Red Wings there's just the
Speaker 3: Tigers have. I'm not giving up on Scott Harris. I
Speaker 3: saw everybody saying fire Scott Harrison.
Speaker 4: Is that.
Speaker 2: I think that's just ridiculous. Sky Harris.
Speaker 3: What he did last year is more of a fireable
Speaker 3: offense than what he did this year in my opinion.
Speaker 3: But I'd like the team he's building. I like the
Speaker 3: players he collects.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. I have faith in I have hope
Speaker 2: for the Tigers.
Speaker 3: The Red Wings. We have no idea what's gonna happen. Yep,
Speaker 3: we don't know who's gonna be the GM. We don't
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen with Delan Larkin. We don't know
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. With ELX to break it. They want
Speaker 3: to sign a top six forward. They said, awesome, do
Speaker 3: it like it's you have no red wings. It's just
Speaker 3: question marks everywhere.
Speaker 2: Mail Bag, Easy, Why do you think Dave Montgomery wanted
Speaker 2: to leave? Was because of how much they wanted to
Speaker 2: spin on him? It was because of time spin on
Speaker 2: the field, splitting snaps with Jah. He wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 2: He felt he was worthy of a number one lead
Speaker 2: back role. And then he went to Houston's Carri's with
Speaker 2: I remember his name. At this point, he'll be good.
Speaker 2: I want to establish that right now to it. Never
Speaker 2: said Dave Montgomery's washed. Never said Dave montgummy was not good.
Speaker 2: I think Dave Montgomery's a good running back. I was
Speaker 2: disappointed that he wanted to leave to go split carries
Speaker 2: some elsewhere with the worst offensive line. Mail Bag. What
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Akron Football's new promotion drawing August nineteenth,
Speaker 2: Random drawing from season ticket holders plus one entry per
Speaker 2: season ticket acquired Winter scripts Akrons opening like calling the plays.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. That's pretty cool, but that would
Speaker 2: be fun. Mail Bag. How many cranks on the crank
Speaker 2: so you can no longer crank from Jacob Crank.
Speaker 6: On average, A lot of cranks, A lot of cranks.
Speaker 2: Cranksy hitting the day. You ever had a tree peat?
Speaker 3: I've hit a tree peat. I've yeah, dude. I mean
Speaker 3: when I was a fucking high school I was deviant bro.
Speaker 2: My brother.
Speaker 3: I remember, my brother had just showed me how to
Speaker 3: clear the search history.
Speaker 2: My boy, my boy Colin was the only boy in
Speaker 2: a house full of girls, and his mom would find
Speaker 2: it like it's obviously him, He's the only male in
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 3: But I don't know how I got there.
Speaker 2: Mom wasn't me. Yeah, I'll one of the sisters Inn
Speaker 2: being gay, So could have been, could have been, but
Speaker 2: we knew. What if the Lions want Gibbs to hold
Speaker 2: in so so that the soon to be highest paid
Speaker 2: running back doesn't get hurt before the regular season, I
Speaker 2: don't think that's the case. The run game is highly
Speaker 2: important the running back. Yeah, I mean, like the contra
Speaker 2: would have been done by now, you know.
Speaker 8: And they could just pay them and not play them.
Speaker 1: Really that concern?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh fuck, I missed one mil bag. Would you
Speaker 2: rather take one buggy ride with Devin White? Catch one dog?
Speaker 2: Or what I think a buggy ride with Devin White
Speaker 2: would be you get to actually have an actual conversation. Yes,
Speaker 2: just catching one ball from golf. Yeah, mail Bags Scoople
Speaker 2: makes his Dodger's debut in an hour. What's your prediction?
Speaker 3: Seven runs?
Speaker 2: Seven run playing four based on balls at Wrigley.
Speaker 6: I think takes some deep I think.
Speaker 3: He strikes out ten. I think he goes seven innings,
Speaker 3: maybe gives up a runner two. You're gonna see classic
Speaker 3: school and you know what, They're probably gonna win like
Speaker 3: eleven to nothing because they.
Speaker 6: Got bats and they lost to Boston.
Speaker 3: Swept by Boston. Yeah, crazy, those Red Sox, man.
Speaker 6: What the fuck dude, They are definitely doing some voodoo
Speaker 6: magic show.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see Jake Rodgers win a ring new Red
Speaker 3: and Jamai Jones Eah when.
Speaker 2: He when ja might hit the home run, I was like,
Speaker 2: fucking He's hit like three. It's kind of the Red Sox.
Speaker 2: It's crazy what the Red Socks are doing? Mail Bag character,
Speaker 2: do you punch the face if you punched like a
Speaker 2: sixty year old Mike Tyson Cercy fictional characters from Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones, Off the Princess from Rise of a Shield
Speaker 2: Hero season one.
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Goode would be mine because up on it.
Speaker 5: No, I saw a couple of I saw a couple
Speaker 5: of he seemed to He doesn't seem to be the
Speaker 5: coolest guys.
Speaker 1: Seems like a prick in my opinion.
Speaker 2: There's there's awesome movies, like the plot is a so
Speaker 2: ass and there's like too much plot armor. I just
Speaker 2: want to punch the guy they can't figure out. The
Speaker 2: easy solution fantals is a good one, but it wouldn't
Speaker 2: affect him much. But like, I want you snap and
Speaker 2: make more food, Bud. Yeah, it's the greed of man
Speaker 2: more than it is the limited resources.
Speaker 6: I think shout out.
Speaker 2: The population things.
Speaker 3: Also, that's kind of where it gets, you know, strads
Speaker 3: from the comics a little bit, because the majority of
Speaker 3: the comics trying to press is trying to bang death.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, until he wants to wipe out half of
Speaker 3: living beings to be like.
Speaker 2: Look what I did.
Speaker 7: He's a simple, real quick fellas. I got a crazy
Speaker 7: stat for you from Try Do You Try? Tigers pr
Speaker 7: We scored eight plus runs in five straight games for
Speaker 7: the first time since ninety six.
Speaker 6: Over that stretch, Tigers have scored fifty.
Speaker 7: Five runs just the sixth time any MLB team has
Speaker 7: scored that many in a five game span since twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Like the sixth then plus see looks like the starting
Speaker 2: power forward for the Monsters.
Speaker 3: Born his mail bag not going to happen. But if
Speaker 3: we lose Schooble, Larkin, Dura, and Gibbs all in a
Speaker 3: year and a half span, I'll check out for a second.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame it for more than a second.
Speaker 2: Mill Sacks would not be on your bucket list. It's
Speaker 2: too nasty to say on air. Notice nasty women, it was,
Speaker 2: will be pregnant.
Speaker 6: Two of them at the same time.
Speaker 2: Something on my bucket list.
Speaker 3: I do want to see a game at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 8: Yes, that would actually be mine too. I want to
Speaker 8: see New York I think to.
Speaker 1: Go to that's the Jackie chan One show.
Speaker 4: Was going.
Speaker 1: I think, uh.
Speaker 3: A trip to Japan is also on my bucket list.
Speaker 3: I think that would be really sweet. Yeah, see some
Speaker 3: of those octopus shows.
Speaker 2: I think for me, it's easy.
Speaker 7: I live in the same apartment I've been living in
Speaker 7: for a while, waiting for this line's fucking super Bowl
Speaker 7: to come down Woodward and it just hasn't hit yet. Uh,
Speaker 7: the balcony party on Woodward would be incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's not of our hands though.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, matl Bag. Did you guys see Bed already
Speaker 2: getting ready to move the goalpost? The Tigers make the
Speaker 2: playoffs and they are proven wrong two and a half
Speaker 2: games out right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I never seen one show hate.
Speaker 3: The Tigers's more than Bed.
Speaker 6: It's good.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched as much because I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: clip the show that often, but I consume I know
Speaker 2: what's going on there.
Speaker 3: Well, that'll do it for us today. Appreciate you tapping him.
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