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Speaker 6: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
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Speaker 5: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you
Speaker 5: all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO
Speaker 5: Chronicles podcast. Tonight we welcome Mary, come in to us
Speaker 5: from New York City. Mary whose encounters go far beyond
Speaker 5: lights in the sky. In nineteen ninety seven, while working
Speaker 5: on a film set near Tombstone, Arizona, she witnessed a
Speaker 5: massive craft, the same shape later tied to the now
Speaker 5: famous Phoenix lights. What she saught was no illusion, and
Speaker 5: it wasn't the first time. Mary's sighting stretched back decades
Speaker 5: and across states, from New York City to the Southwest,
Speaker 5: and several have been independently confirmed by Mouffon and even
Speaker 5: captured on camera. But UFOs are only part of her story.
Speaker 5: Since childhood, Mary has carried something else, the gift of sight.
Speaker 5: She's experienced vivid premonitions, moments where the future breaks into
Speaker 5: the present, including visions of loved ones passing as it
Speaker 5: was happening even miles away. This is more than a
Speaker 5: close encounter. It's a testimony of a woman who spent
Speaker 5: a lifetime straddle in two realities, one we will see
Speaker 5: and one most choose to a nor Mary is up next.
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Speaker 5: Now on with the show. Hello Mary, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4: Hi Nick, how you doing? And thank you for the invite.
Speaker 5: Oh you are more than welcome. Thank you for joining
Speaker 5: us tonight. And you're calling from New York City.
Speaker 4: Yes, the big city, Manhattan, New York.
Speaker 5: Good stuff. Okay, Now, Mary, you have some sightens to
Speaker 5: share with us. Would you like to start the very
Speaker 5: beginning please, ma'am?
Speaker 4: Okay, I've seen a lot of them. Got us start
Speaker 4: with the ones that I saw out in Arizona. I
Speaker 4: was out there work. This was in eighteen ninety seven,
Speaker 4: in April. I was out there for almost close to
Speaker 4: two months. But we were working at this fort Mescal.
Speaker 4: It was in Vincent and it's right off from Highway
Speaker 4: forty three and Mescal is one of those old forts
Speaker 4: that they had and they had set it up for
Speaker 4: us to shoot a movie which was called Buffalo Soldiers
Speaker 4: starring Danny Glover, and that was in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 4: and it was a regular they of shooting, and I
Speaker 4: just happened to go back to the trailer from where
Speaker 4: we were shooting. And then on my way back, you know,
Speaker 4: the town, the little town Mescalar is like going on
Speaker 4: the western towns the way they had it set up,
Speaker 4: and so you know how you walking down a little
Speaker 4: street and then you get to the corner and then
Speaker 4: you cross over. So as you cross over, you that's
Speaker 4: an opening. I just happened to be looking up at
Speaker 4: the sky, you know, just looking around, and I happened
Speaker 4: to see something to my right. First I thought it
Speaker 4: was like a bird, you know, sending myself, my God,
Speaker 4: that's a big bird. And then I realized, I said,
Speaker 4: God's birds. They can't solve that high and that lawn
Speaker 4: without flapping their wings. That I got a closer look
Speaker 4: and I realized it was not a bird. It was
Speaker 4: an object. It was like a grayish blackish metallic object
Speaker 4: in triangular shape. I says, oh, my god, that's a UFO,
Speaker 4: because I knew we did not have anything like that.
Speaker 4: That could stay stationary in the sky like that, you know,
Speaker 4: I says, Oh my god, that's what it is. And
Speaker 4: I watched it for about five minutes and so and
Speaker 4: I was excited. I went on back block away and
Speaker 4: I didn't say anything to anybody, but every so often
Speaker 4: I would glance up and I would see it in
Speaker 4: the same spot. That's definitely UFO because it's not a bird.
Speaker 4: And as I said, we don't have anything like that
Speaker 4: to stay stationary like that. So I went on and
Speaker 4: I kept saying it all during the day, and I
Speaker 4: didn't say anything for the following day. We had to
Speaker 4: go a little further out beyond this old western town
Speaker 4: called Toonstone. You might have heard of it. It really exists,
Speaker 4: and it's in Arizona. So we went beyond that and
Speaker 4: we had the film and like an old drive up
Speaker 4: river bell. I can't think of the name of the
Speaker 4: town or hand, but just beyond that. But it was
Speaker 4: a little fur away from Benson. And so I was
Speaker 4: working that day and I came out of the trailer trailers,
Speaker 4: the hair and makeup trailer, someone call them a camper
Speaker 4: where we do the hair and makeup, and I was
Speaker 4: standing out there was some of the other coworkers. I
Speaker 4: just happened to look back in the direction towards Benson,
Speaker 4: and I saw the same identical thing. It's just it
Speaker 4: was just a little farther away than what it was
Speaker 4: the previous day. But it was the same identical things,
Speaker 4: a grayish blackish metallic trying to shape. And so at
Speaker 4: that time I told everybody, I says, listen, I says look.
Speaker 4: I said, you see this thing over there up in
Speaker 4: the sky, and they said yeah, I said, that's the UFOE.
Speaker 4: I said, I saw the same thing yesterday, but I
Speaker 4: just didn't tell anybody, and some of them got monopolis
Speaker 4: and they sat up. They said, oh my god, it
Speaker 4: is and it's not moving. I said no, I said
Speaker 4: it's stationary. And so we watched it for a while
Speaker 4: and then we all had to go to work. So
Speaker 4: what happened. We finished up the film and I came
Speaker 4: back to New York. I didn't tell people what I
Speaker 4: had seen, but I didn't find out get confirmation what
Speaker 4: it was, even though I knew I had seen a UFO,
Speaker 4: but I didn't get confirmation anyone. So years later, I
Speaker 4: was watching move On. Somehow though I was watching that
Speaker 4: because I always be watching things. So happened. That's when
Speaker 4: I found out about Moffon. They was on there and
Speaker 4: they was talking about things that signs that people had
Speaker 4: seen and things like that, and they had videos of it.
Speaker 4: They showed that, and what they showed, they showed the
Speaker 4: same identical thing, not up in the sky, stationary, but
Speaker 4: it had been putting on a show for the people
Speaker 4: in Phoenix during that time, and you could see the
Speaker 4: lights up under it, and people was taking pictures and
Speaker 4: videos and everything, and you could see it it was
Speaker 4: coming down thelaw. I says, Oh my god, that's exactly
Speaker 4: what I saw. It's just that when I saw it,
Speaker 4: it was stationary because it was in the daytime and
Speaker 4: I didn't mention before, but it had to be like
Speaker 4: about eleven am when I saw it, and I saw
Speaker 4: it all that day, and I saw it the following
Speaker 4: day it was about the same time. So it was
Speaker 4: just stationary. That just so happened. I happened to see
Speaker 4: it at that time. But when it was coming over
Speaker 4: the people in Phoenix, they says that it would come
Speaker 4: in the evening and it were putting on a show.
Speaker 4: And I saw the videos of it and people was
Speaker 4: out in New York and everything, and someone was scared. Anyway,
Speaker 4: it was the same identical thing, and so that's how
Speaker 4: it got to move on. You know, so many people
Speaker 4: saw it. Now some of them probably saw the same
Speaker 4: thing that I saw. They was stationary, but it's just
Speaker 4: that I didn't see it moving about. It was stationary,
Speaker 4: and that's what let me know at that moment. It
Speaker 4: was not an airplane. We didn't have nothing that could
Speaker 4: stay up there, and this skuy just stay there. It's
Speaker 4: not like a helicopter can hover and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But you can tell the difference. This was grayish blackish,
Speaker 4: metallic triangular shape and it was stationary up there for
Speaker 4: the entire day that the following day, I saw it
Speaker 4: in the same spot. It's just that I was a
Speaker 4: distant away. And so that was the same ithentical thing
Speaker 4: that move on a sean And it was in the
Speaker 4: same months, like Marching, April, and but I saw it
Speaker 4: in April, and I says, oh my god, I knew,
Speaker 4: I knew what I saw. So it confirmed that, you know,
Speaker 4: and I was so happy to get a confirmation, even
Speaker 4: though you know how you know what you know what
Speaker 4: you're seeing. But it's just that when someone else take
Speaker 4: pictures of it, and it's during the same time, you
Speaker 4: feel really relieved. You know, even though you what you
Speaker 4: were saying was true, but you fear leaves that you
Speaker 4: got confirmation for it. And so I got confirmation with that.
Speaker 4: And also on that same day when I was watching
Speaker 4: that move on, them also showed some they were showing
Speaker 4: other things. Now I'm going to take you back the
Speaker 4: Phoenis light to what I saw was a triangular shaped thing.
Speaker 4: That was in nineteen ninety seven. So now flash forward
Speaker 4: to two thousand of April. I was visiting South Carolina
Speaker 4: and I was The town that I was visiting was
Speaker 4: like on the it borders North Carolina, but from where
Speaker 4: I was that day, it might have been about me
Speaker 4: three miles from the North Carolina border. I happened to
Speaker 4: be staying the yard because it was in a rural area.
Speaker 4: A family member was planting some plants and I was
Speaker 4: standing out by the road, and another a male cousin,
Speaker 4: he was there and I was just standing up on
Speaker 4: the road just looking. And have you ever seen anything
Speaker 4: that you're looking at something and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you realize something's been going on. Right in front of
Speaker 4: your eyes, and you didn't realize until just that moment,
Speaker 4: you know, what you saw. So I happened to see
Speaker 4: this first of all, it was like the sun was
Speaker 4: still up. I will say, it was like about a
Speaker 4: half an hour before the sunset, you know. And so
Speaker 4: I'm sitting up there and I'm looking, but I see
Speaker 4: this big bright thing, like a you know, saw, And
Speaker 4: I said to myself, good God, I never said star
Speaker 4: like that. When I was little, and my father used
Speaker 4: to bring us outside at night and show us all
Speaker 4: the planets, like you know, like the Nine planets, and
Speaker 4: he would show us the Big Dipper. He would even
Speaker 4: bring us outside at night, like on New Year's Eve
Speaker 4: and show us when the old year went out and
Speaker 4: the new year went out. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: ever heard about that, but all the old folks would
Speaker 4: do that. And if you can actually see it, like
Speaker 4: it just something just goes over and something new coming
Speaker 4: in the sky. I don't know whether you will watched it.
Speaker 4: If you have one, it good to try it, especial
Speaker 4: if it's a clear night. Because anyway, I said to myself,
Speaker 4: not following up, showed up now that big in that direction.
Speaker 4: I says, my God, what is that this thing was?
Speaker 4: It was would have to be one of the nine planets.
Speaker 4: You'll follow what I said. And so because I'm watching this,
Speaker 4: I realized that there was a tiny little little thing,
Speaker 4: a little like a tiny little woman because it was
Speaker 4: like yellow. And all of a sudden it time to
Speaker 4: me that little thing had been moving back and forth
Speaker 4: going to the big thing, which was the mother ship,
Speaker 4: and it was blinking like giving us some information. Then
Speaker 4: it would go back. I says, oh God, that's a
Speaker 4: U of Hel. That is not no dog on planet.
Speaker 4: But it seemed so close. It might have been about
Speaker 4: maybe block wise thirty blocks. But this was in a
Speaker 4: rural area, like in the country area, for across some
Speaker 4: fields and beyond some woods, so it seemed like it
Speaker 4: might have been closer than what it was. So I
Speaker 4: told my sister and the ones that was out there
Speaker 4: doing her little flowers, and my mail cousin. I says, listen,
Speaker 4: if y'all have never seen the UFO in your life,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that one right there, and I pointed
Speaker 4: to it. Then I showed them. Now at the same time,
Speaker 4: that same sister that was doing the little flowers, she
Speaker 4: had seen one when she was a child along with
Speaker 4: my father, not far from exactly where we were standing.
Speaker 4: But it was shaped cigar shape and it was like
Speaker 4: a wristco and my father had always told me about it,
Speaker 4: and my sister was telling aboudy, but that particular day
Speaker 4: she just said, oh, okay, they saw it. I didn't
Speaker 4: realize at the time that it was over in Fatville,
Speaker 4: North Carolina, by foot dry, but I knew it was
Speaker 4: a UFO because we don't have an an type of
Speaker 4: aircraft can stand up like that, don't do anything, and
Speaker 4: then another little thing comes from it, goes out do
Speaker 4: a little blank and then go back over and blank blank,
Speaker 4: like it's given us intel. I said, that's a UFO.
Speaker 4: It's like a mothership with a little prob going from it.
Speaker 4: And I had been seeing it for a while, but
Speaker 4: like I was running my mouth talking and things like that,
Speaker 4: so I just didn't pay attention to. All of a
Speaker 4: sudden it dawned at me that that small little thing
Speaker 4: was going back and forth to the big one. Didn't
Speaker 4: go in it, but close enough to it, and would blink.
Speaker 4: Is if it's given him something? I says, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And so to the day when I was watching move
Speaker 4: On and they had on there about the Phoenix lights.
Speaker 4: They also had on there about the lights in Fatville,
Speaker 4: and the same month and the same year, which was
Speaker 4: Abril two thousand. I says, oh my god, that's what
Speaker 4: I saw. But the thing about it, it seemed like
Speaker 4: it was closer to me than what it was because
Speaker 4: where I was, it was six miles away from them.
Speaker 4: Now that's how big it was. That I could see it,
Speaker 4: you know, and it was sixty miles away. But I'm
Speaker 4: thinking it might've been like no more than a mile
Speaker 4: or two. You know, that's how big it was. And
Speaker 4: they had a big thing about it, the way they
Speaker 4: was talking about it on Move On, about the people
Speaker 4: that they had interviewed over in Fattville, and so many
Speaker 4: people had they was interviewing and talked about it, and
Speaker 4: one guy even went so far this. You know, you
Speaker 4: never can say what people say is true or not.
Speaker 4: He was talking about he saw it, and that some
Speaker 4: little people came and Jordan hearing voud it in the
Speaker 4: house and to people like kind of like laughing off.
Speaker 4: It could be true and it could not. But I
Speaker 4: do know one thing. There were so many other people
Speaker 4: that gave interviews that they really saw this ship and
Speaker 4: the whole thing, and about the smaller one too, And
Speaker 4: that's when I found out it was over Fort Bragg
Speaker 4: and fed via North Carolina. That was true, that was
Speaker 4: confirmed by Moufon, you know, and so that it made
Speaker 4: me feel good to know that what I saw was real,
Speaker 4: even though I knew it was real, even if I hadn't.
Speaker 4: But when someone when you see somebody like that, and
Speaker 4: so many people in other places seen the same thing
Speaker 4: in the same date, in the same year, so you
Speaker 4: know what you saw was real. Something was real.
Speaker 5: Interesting stuff. Mary, So the first time you're in Arizona.
Speaker 4: That was the first time I was in Arizona first time,
Speaker 4: And but did I have a great time. I experienced
Speaker 4: so many things. Arizona is one beautiful state. Certain parts
Speaker 4: of it. It's like time has got about it. People
Speaker 4: hadn't been We shot in areas like people hadn't been
Speaker 4: out there in hundreds of years. You know, the way
Speaker 4: when you shoot moves you go to all these isolated
Speaker 4: places and things like that. Unbelievable. It's beautiful. It just
Speaker 4: has so many things to see. I just truly enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: But like I said, I never thought I would see auble,
Speaker 4: but I did it. But I'm very happy that I did.
Speaker 5: Working on Buffalo Soldiers, you were doing hair and makeup?
Speaker 4: Yes, I was doing hair.
Speaker 5: Did you do Donny Glover's hair?
Speaker 4: I didn't do his hair. Somebody else did his hair,
Speaker 4: but I did tractic everybody else's hair in there. But
Speaker 4: I do know him quite well, his family and stuff.
Speaker 4: I will say we're friends. I'll put it to you
Speaker 4: like that, Bet and I. I got to know his
Speaker 4: father so well, and I worked with him on other
Speaker 4: numerous things too. Dan is a nice guy, and I
Speaker 4: know his hair and make up people because he has
Speaker 4: his own hair and make up, so I know them.
Speaker 4: So that's why I didn't do his hair. But I
Speaker 4: got to know him quite well, and he's a wonderful guy.
Speaker 4: As matter of fact, when we were when I saw
Speaker 4: that particularly triangle shape in the second day, his makeup
Speaker 4: artist is the one that gave us the monocolos so
Speaker 4: we can get a closer look at it. When we
Speaker 4: saw it from another location out beyond Tombstone when we
Speaker 4: were shooting, because I ran in and I told her
Speaker 4: that she was busy where she said he had take
Speaker 4: the monocolars go out there and look at it. So
Speaker 4: I gave it to the other guys, some of the
Speaker 4: other actors, so they could get a close up look
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: So you got the more interested in the UFO on set.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they looked at it. And because I showed
Speaker 4: it to him. Like I said, the first day I
Speaker 4: saw it, I didn't say anything to anybody about it.
Speaker 4: And it's not that I was, you know, thinking they
Speaker 4: would say, oh no, because if they'd have looked at it,
Speaker 4: they would have seen too that we didn't have no
Speaker 4: airplane shaped like that. But to stay stationary like that
Speaker 4: one spot. When I saw it, I said, let me
Speaker 4: tell them so they could see it too, because some
Speaker 4: of them might not have never seen anything like that.
Speaker 4: I said, well, this be a first. I saw another
Speaker 4: the one. I've seen a lot of them, but this
Speaker 4: one was in twenty eleven here in New York. But
Speaker 4: it was in the Hamptons and we were filming out there.
Speaker 4: It was a night shoot, and we was filming at
Speaker 4: one of these houses that they rent out, like those
Speaker 4: big masshones and things that they rent out to shoot
Speaker 4: stuff like that. It was out safe beyond eleven PM,
Speaker 4: like between eleven and two, and we was on this porch.
Speaker 4: They had a big wrap around porch, and you know,
Speaker 4: we're all out there hanging out on the porch and
Speaker 4: in the yard, and I happened to spot this object.
Speaker 4: It was a cigar shape like now they'll call them
Speaker 4: a cylinder shape, our capsule shape. See back in the
Speaker 4: day when my father, when I choldren, my father and
Speaker 4: my sister saw the cigar shape. One they didn't call
Speaker 4: things like all capsules the cylinders at that time, you understand,
Speaker 4: and TikTok shapes, you follow. I'm saying, that's why they
Speaker 4: knew it was in the shape of a cigar. This
Speaker 4: was the same shape, but nowadays they'll call it a
Speaker 4: tic tac shape, a cell in the shape. And it
Speaker 4: was like a cream colored white and it was huge.
Speaker 4: But the thing about it, I didn't there was no
Speaker 4: scenes or anything like where you see anything put together
Speaker 4: or anything like that. But in the back of it,
Speaker 4: it was a different color thing coming out of it,
Speaker 4: like the way it was attached, but you didn't see
Speaker 4: no attachment. And it was yellow like it might be
Speaker 4: a light. But you know how when you see a
Speaker 4: light come out of something, it's just like a straight thing.
Speaker 4: But what was so ironic about this the yellow part
Speaker 4: that looked like it could have been a light coming out,
Speaker 4: like shining from out of the back of it. It
Speaker 4: was almost like a horn shape, you know, like the
Speaker 4: big part of a horn, like a bell shaped but
Speaker 4: safe instant like a qew draw a triangle the wide
Speaker 4: part of the triangle, and then you come to the
Speaker 4: smallest part. It was like that, But I tell you
Speaker 4: it was like a horn or bell, so you understand
Speaker 4: how the big part of it was. But it actually
Speaker 4: like a triangle, the big part of the wide part
Speaker 4: of the triangle. But as you go to the narrow point,
Speaker 4: it didn't go to the tiniest point the narrowest point.
Speaker 4: It was like a little further in going towards the
Speaker 4: wide part. And I'm saying to myself, if that's light
Speaker 4: coming out behind it, how is it coming out in
Speaker 4: that angle like a triangle? You followed, I'm saying, I
Speaker 4: thought that was very odd. How what was making it
Speaker 4: come out like that? And I pointed that out to
Speaker 4: all the others on the set that was right around
Speaker 4: the pas and like first ads and different things like that.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a whole lot of us, but it was
Speaker 4: a few of our corner and we all watched it
Speaker 4: and it was like you could tell it was on
Speaker 4: a mission. It knew where it was going, and it
Speaker 4: was not a missile. Believe me when I tell you this.
Speaker 4: This was some type of arjict from someplace else, just
Speaker 4: skipping and it wasn't like zipping and zapping. It was
Speaker 4: just skipping, you know, like going straight and knewhere it
Speaker 4: was going. And what I'm gonna tell you next, oh boy,
Speaker 4: the next night, which was about twenty four hours later.
Speaker 4: This happened on a Thursday night when we saw it.
Speaker 4: The next night was a Friday night, and some of
Speaker 4: us was coming back to Manhattan, you know, for the weekend.
Speaker 4: And I won't go into too much detail, but on
Speaker 4: the road coming back, the person was driving the car
Speaker 4: I had ridden with this person, you know, like in
Speaker 4: the crew vans, and they always drove very good. But
Speaker 4: for some reason, we were like in a four lane
Speaker 4: highway coming and on the opposite side was a full
Speaker 4: lane highway going, so you know, so why how we
Speaker 4: four lanes go in one direction and we were in
Speaker 4: the four left lane and all of a sudden and
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the van right behind the driver, and
Speaker 4: there's like a plexiglass in the petition in between the
Speaker 4: driver and the seat that I was sitting in, and
Speaker 4: the director was sitting on the opposite side from me,
Speaker 4: near the door, And all of a sudden, this young
Speaker 4: man began to drive like a erratic and as if
Speaker 4: he couldn't control this, And I'm saving myself. He never
Speaker 4: drove like that before. Was wrong with him now? And
Speaker 4: it was like something just took a hold of him.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, he gets into like a you know,
Speaker 4: like you see a small poth hole in the road,
Speaker 4: you know, like it as a smaller hole, you beneure it.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, he just went right in it.
Speaker 4: And I bump my head on that plexiglass and my
Speaker 4: nose began to bleed, an object fell out. I'm very serious,
Speaker 4: And at that point I wasn't scared about what had
Speaker 4: happened about my nose and what came out of it.
Speaker 4: I'm worried about, Oh God, because then he couldn't hardly
Speaker 4: drive the you know, he couldn't drive the because then
Speaker 4: he met step the tire and we're on the far
Speaker 4: left and a four lane highway, and I knew we
Speaker 4: needed to get over to the far right because over
Speaker 4: that side they was like, way, if you get to
Speaker 4: the far right, you can be on the outskirts and
Speaker 4: you can get out of the car whatever. And so
Speaker 4: I'm telling him, try to get over to the to
Speaker 4: the far right. But how I'm gonna do it? And
Speaker 4: the director is sitting there. She didn't know what to do.
Speaker 4: So I says, what you do, put on your blankets.
Speaker 4: This way the calls behind you will know something is wrong.
Speaker 4: You hold your hand out the window and you drive
Speaker 4: so that they will stop, like the third lane. I says,
Speaker 4: when they see it, they will stop and let you go. Oh,
Speaker 4: and you keep doing that until you get over to
Speaker 4: that far right lane and then you pull over to
Speaker 4: the side. And that's what we did. But before all
Speaker 4: that happened, I put got this thing. This thing had
Speaker 4: a design on it, and I'm being very honest with him,
Speaker 4: it was unreal. I just put it in a and
Speaker 4: put it on set back and I wiped my nose,
Speaker 4: and my nose didn't bleed much after that. It just
Speaker 4: bled a little bit, quite a bit when that bumped
Speaker 4: in the same cup fell out, But the thing about
Speaker 4: this I did bought my head hard enough to meet us,
Speaker 4: to make it bleed to my noticeableed. That was so weird.
Speaker 4: So anyway, when we got across to the other side,
Speaker 4: we called up the upm and told him what was
Speaker 4: going on, and so he sent another van to get
Speaker 4: us to bring us because actually just about less than
Speaker 4: a half a block there was an exit where you
Speaker 4: could turn off to the right from this this freeway
Speaker 4: that we were on. So we went up there. We
Speaker 4: walked up there, and we waited for this other van
Speaker 4: to come for us to sit in while the young
Speaker 4: gentleman stayed with the van on the side of the road.
Speaker 4: But had I not told him how to get over
Speaker 4: to the other side, we might have been blown to
Speaker 4: smothered rings with all those calls. But my thing is this,
Speaker 4: when this thing fell out of my nose, it's just
Speaker 4: so ironic that this poor young guy start to drive
Speaker 4: so erradically when he had never driven like that before.
Speaker 4: It was if some type of horse was making him
Speaker 4: do it. And then it was as if this thing
Speaker 4: was supposed to come out of me. However it goted me.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but I have a feeling it
Speaker 4: had been in there for a long time, and this
Speaker 4: was like some type of actually, you couldn't bend it,
Speaker 4: you couldn't cut it, whatever, And this design is on it.
Speaker 4: And I says, oh my god, but I will tell
Speaker 4: you this. When we got across the road and went
Speaker 4: up and made the turn, the right turn to come
Speaker 4: in off the expressway, and it was like all hb
Speaker 4: ll broke loose. It's like people were so evil. Do
Speaker 4: you hear what I'm telling you. I'm being very honest.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's just weird that this happened, like
Speaker 4: twenty four hours after we saw this thing, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, this poor young man began to
Speaker 4: drive so erratically that I bumped my head and this
Speaker 4: thing came out. It was as if it had to
Speaker 4: come out. I don't know whether it has something to
Speaker 4: do with what we had seen the night before or what,
Speaker 4: but I do know it came out and it had
Speaker 4: a design on it, and I had never seen a
Speaker 4: design like that before. Like, let me back up for
Speaker 4: a second. We ended up coming home that night. The
Speaker 4: UPM sent on a van to get us to come home.
Speaker 4: And I've never told anyone about what had came out
Speaker 4: of me that object, but all through the years since then,
Speaker 4: because this was in twenty eleven. A matter of fact,
Speaker 4: it's in October twenty eleven when this happened, and it
Speaker 4: was on a Thursday night. But since then, I've been
Speaker 4: trying to find this design. I would joy it, and
Speaker 4: I've been trying to find this design. What was it?
Speaker 4: I will say about two months ago, I saw something
Speaker 4: that and I'm not going to make your name way
Speaker 4: I saw it, but someone had a design like that
Speaker 4: on something, and I don't even think they know what
Speaker 4: it was. I looked at that design, and I went
Speaker 4: on the Internet and I came up with something that
Speaker 4: I saw that looked at something like the design that
Speaker 4: this person that I'm telling you, this well known person
Speaker 4: had drawn. I came up with something and it was
Speaker 4: the identical to what came out of my nose. But
Speaker 4: it was something from like, oh my god, fall fall
Speaker 4: for fall back, maybe different centuries they had this particular object.
Speaker 4: But the only thing the way this object was from
Speaker 4: way years ago. What came out of me, it was
Speaker 4: design slightly different, but the same thing, but just certain
Speaker 4: things on it were slightly different. And I'm very serious
Speaker 4: about that. I don't know what to make of it
Speaker 4: is something there, And I always said, I think it
Speaker 4: was intended for that fender bender that night for it
Speaker 4: to come out. I don't know how that object got
Speaker 4: in me. I have no idea, but it was put there.
Speaker 4: It sure wasn't put there when I was wrong, you know,
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So I don't know, but it came out,
Speaker 4: and I says, well, it was God knew it was
Speaker 4: time to come out, and it came out. And that
Speaker 4: was why that fender bender came about, in order for
Speaker 4: it to come out. And I said to myself, I
Speaker 4: wonder if it had to do with this object that
Speaker 4: we saw, because that little guy, the driver, he was
Speaker 4: there too when I saw it. Maybe it had something
Speaker 4: to do with each other. I don't know, but I
Speaker 4: do know what happened, like within twenty four hours afterwards,
Speaker 4: that fender bender and the guy had always driven real nice,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, it's like something took control
Speaker 4: over him. And it was as if it was intent
Speaker 4: for me to bump my head so that this thing
Speaker 4: could come out. Never never had no difficulty breathing, and
Speaker 4: this thing was India, so and on this thing to
Speaker 4: be in. It's just weird. It was weightless. You follow
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. This thing was weightless and it was
Speaker 4: a dying size, and so that really happened.
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Speaker 4: Seen lots of others prior to that. In some sense
Speaker 4: that the first one that I ever saw in my life,
Speaker 4: that was Oh God, when I was very very young.
Speaker 4: I was visiting a family member in Brooklyn. I won't
Speaker 4: go into too much of detail about that, but I
Speaker 4: will tell you this. It was a disshaped saucer and
Speaker 4: as it was moving real fast forward, it was spinning around,
Speaker 4: you know, like a spinning top spin around. But it's
Speaker 4: just that it was into the shape of a saucer,
Speaker 4: looked like a silver disk, and it was zipping so
Speaker 4: fast from one side to the other. And I happened
Speaker 4: to look to my left and it was coming back.
Speaker 4: And there was a lot of people in the streets
Speaker 4: and they saw the same thing. And this thing was
Speaker 4: like it was going to like three points when we
Speaker 4: all saw it. First it was on the right side
Speaker 4: and it was zipping like it went to like twenty
Speaker 4: hour and the next thing, you know, we saw it
Speaker 4: zipping back on the left side, and then it was
Speaker 4: zipping back on the right side again. It did that
Speaker 4: for over half an hour. And it was a weekday,
Speaker 4: and it was between like about just before four o'clock
Speaker 4: until four point thirty. We were seeing it all out
Speaker 4: in the streets. We were seeing this thing, and I
Speaker 4: told people about it. You know, other people don't know
Speaker 4: whether they believe me or not. But anyway, I had
Speaker 4: a confirmation about that, and it had to be between
Speaker 4: January of nineteen ninety three January of nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 4: And the reason why because the place where I was
Speaker 4: living at that time, I knew I was watching this
Speaker 4: particular program, and I didn't watch it except for when
Speaker 4: I was at that particular location. They had this program
Speaker 4: that came on. It was you know how you have
Speaker 4: a public television with different people. You can come on
Speaker 4: there and you don't have to pay, and you get
Speaker 4: like you can have your own little shows for like
Speaker 4: half hours something like that. On the show, there's this
Speaker 4: group of people here, this organization here in Manhattan, and
Speaker 4: they came on and they be talking about all kinds
Speaker 4: of stuff. That particular night, they was talking about UFOs
Speaker 4: and one of the a family member was with me
Speaker 4: that I had told what I had seen all those
Speaker 4: years ago when I was young, and I didn't know
Speaker 4: whether they believe me or not. So this particular night
Speaker 4: they showing this thing and I says, oh my god,
Speaker 4: that's what I saw. And I says, and I always
Speaker 4: said it was our In late August of September, and
Speaker 4: sure enough, the date and the time was on this
Speaker 4: video and they had one of them cameras from back
Speaker 4: in the day and they took and they capture and
Speaker 4: it's the same identical thing. And like I always told,
Speaker 4: I said, it was silver and it was a saucer
Speaker 4: this and it was spanning around, but at the same
Speaker 4: time it was moving forward and it was like zips
Speaker 4: zip zip. When you say zip, you see it and
Speaker 4: it's gone. You see it to come back and go back.
Speaker 4: And it was doing this all like for like a
Speaker 4: half an hour, and there were adults, kids and everybody
Speaker 4: in the streets and we all saw. And that was
Speaker 4: in Befa Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, New York. And that was
Speaker 4: my confirmation that what I had seen at that time
Speaker 4: was real too, which I knew it was real, but
Speaker 4: just to have somebody to confirm it and you see
Speaker 4: it on a video, then feel good to know that.
Speaker 4: I will say, now another one I'm going to bring
Speaker 4: you back to that I saw. This was after twenty
Speaker 4: eleven when I seen the one in the Hamptons, and
Speaker 4: I don't want to say exactly when it was, but
Speaker 4: I do think that I know one thing. It had
Speaker 4: to be after twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen or something like that.
Speaker 4: I was in my bedroom here in the same apartment
Speaker 4: round now, and you know, he had your shades pulled down,
Speaker 4: and you can see the light come in from your
Speaker 4: from on the side of your shade, and when the
Speaker 4: moon is out, you can see it. But the way
Speaker 4: the moon come over, you know, when you see a
Speaker 4: light that's closer and lower, you notice, not the moon.
Speaker 4: So I'm blindly dead and I see this big bright
Speaker 4: light appears. Oh my god, what devil was that? So
Speaker 4: I got up and I went to the window and
Speaker 4: I could see that it was over the East River
Speaker 4: and it was low, just the bright light the way
Speaker 4: you could tell that it was kind of lower, and
Speaker 4: it had to be over the East River. I says,
Speaker 4: oh my god. I washed it and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden it's like zip and it looked like by the
Speaker 4: East River, but near Brooklyn, the promenade in Brooklyn, down
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn Heights. That's the way it seemed like it
Speaker 4: should be, but in reality it wasn't. It was in Stanton.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna get you that why. So anyway, I
Speaker 4: watched this thing for a while and a family member
Speaker 4: was in the house with me, and I called them.
Speaker 4: I says, come look at this, and they came. But
Speaker 4: now let me back up for a second. When the
Speaker 4: thing when I first saw the light, it looked at
Speaker 4: as if it was diamond shaped. The way the light was. Okay,
Speaker 4: the thing when it moved real suddenly over to the
Speaker 4: way I thought, was like down in Brooklyn on the
Speaker 4: East River, like by Canon Plaza in Brooklyn Heights. It
Speaker 4: was like in diamond shape. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this thing close just go dark. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 4: steady looking. And all of a sudden I could see
Speaker 4: the silhouette off like a farfa, but upside down, you know,
Speaker 4: like the small part of a saufa on the bottom
Speaker 4: when you have a saufa. But it was upside down
Speaker 4: the way this was. And I could see the silhouette,
Speaker 4: and I realized why I thought it was a diamond shape,
Speaker 4: because evidently they had a light on the top of
Speaker 4: the bottom on each end, so when the lights were on,
Speaker 4: it will look like a diamond shape. But I realized
Speaker 4: it was because the lights was making it looks like that.
Speaker 4: But it was literally a saucer, a saucer disk. And
Speaker 4: the reason why I found out it was in Stanton
Speaker 4: Lean because the following day when I went online, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of people talking about it and they
Speaker 4: was talking about it was right there by their house
Speaker 4: and rebuilt in Stanton. Now, so that's how I knew
Speaker 4: again it looked like it was closer than what it was,
Speaker 4: just like the lights that I saw when I was
Speaker 4: in South Carolina and I perceived the lights over in
Speaker 4: Fadville by Fort Bragg, and I'm thinking it's just like
Speaker 4: about a mile or two from me, and in fact
Speaker 4: it was sixty miles away, so it'd be so big
Speaker 4: it's making you think that it's closer than what it is.
Speaker 4: And so anyway, now that particular thing I saw for
Speaker 4: a couple of days, I could see it in the
Speaker 4: daylight here over Manhattan. And I even called up ABC
Speaker 4: to the news Vestal because I usued to work with
Speaker 4: them too, and I called it to the newsass and
Speaker 4: I asked them had they gotten any calls about any
Speaker 4: UFO signing over Manhattan And she says no. I says, well,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I saw it one last night. And
Speaker 4: people says they saw it and they was in Stanton
Speaker 4: out and I says, and I'm looking at my wonder
Speaker 4: now and I see the same dog on thing, and immediately,
Speaker 4: I would say, like within less than ten minutes, I
Speaker 4: saw the news helicopter from ABC like come because I'm
Speaker 4: on the east side and they're on the west side,
Speaker 4: and I could see it and that helicopter come flying
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you know how helicopter can
Speaker 4: go behind a building, you don't see it, and I'm
Speaker 4: thinking it's going to keep on going, and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, I see that helicopter flying back over to
Speaker 4: the ABC building. I said, oh my god, they probably
Speaker 4: spotted and got scared to death. So I called the
Speaker 4: girl back called back the same person and I says,
Speaker 4: I saw your helicopter come out there and I saw
Speaker 4: it turn run and go back. I says, so, y'all
Speaker 4: did they didn't report? They say no. I says, I'm
Speaker 4: quite sure they saw it and they were just scared
Speaker 4: and you can't report it. They saw it, they tried to,
Speaker 4: but just scared to death. And then sometimes when you
Speaker 4: have news outlets, they see things they can't report what
Speaker 4: they see. Because I worked for the news for years too,
Speaker 4: I've worked on all sorts of the entertainment for television
Speaker 4: and film and things like that, and some things they
Speaker 4: will not let you report. And this thing was seen.
Speaker 4: I saw it for a couple of days here in Manhattan,
Speaker 4: and I went on the internet and I contacted move on.
Speaker 4: You have to send a letter of text to them,
Speaker 4: so I sent them, like, well, actually an email, because
Speaker 4: you couldn't just call them up anymore. So anyway, I
Speaker 4: sent them an email. I told them what I had seen,
Speaker 4: and I gave them a date and everything and what
Speaker 4: I have seen. And I know for a fact that's
Speaker 4: what it was. And I saw it. I says, I
Speaker 4: saw it two days later, but it was in the
Speaker 4: daytime and stuff like that. You know, each one that
Speaker 4: I've seen, other people saw it. So that's my story.
Speaker 4: But I'm a truly a believer. I know there's things
Speaker 4: out there, even though our government don't want talk about it,
Speaker 4: because people know what they see that you can't make
Speaker 4: anyone believe you. And you know, it's when something is
Speaker 4: going with that speed, we don't have nothing to go
Speaker 4: that dog on fast. It's just like some of them
Speaker 4: I've been hearing on like a lot of the powers
Speaker 4: that did talk about things they says that when they
Speaker 4: were seemed we didn't have nothing to go that fast
Speaker 4: on this planet. We don't. And I knew even back
Speaker 4: then we didn't have anything to go that fast. And
Speaker 4: the way it was spinning around and going, and it
Speaker 4: was this shape like a saucer civil spinning around like that,
Speaker 4: you know, So it wasn't it wasn't nothing from here.
Speaker 4: So I know for a fact what I saw. Whether
Speaker 4: people believe me or not, you know about the famis
Speaker 4: that I told you, and I've had other people to
Speaker 4: see the same thing. I'm a very religious person. I
Speaker 4: had an open mind. I know God didn't just create
Speaker 4: this earth by itself. And some of them have advanced
Speaker 4: technology more than we have, and some might not. But
Speaker 4: we're not alone. And I'm quite sure I go and
Speaker 4: it knows it, but they just won't admit it. And
Speaker 4: as I said, I really don't care. I know what
Speaker 4: I saw, this same this object a night after the
Speaker 4: siding in the Hamptons. I'm working on something about that
Speaker 4: to draw the exact thing from what I saw, because
Speaker 4: I told you, I came across this particular thing as identical,
Speaker 4: except that what came out of me had something else
Speaker 4: on it. It was a slight design differently, but it's
Speaker 4: pretty much the same thing. It's just that slightly designed,
Speaker 4: differently tyed got in me. I don't know, but I
Speaker 4: know one thing. It came out in twenty eleven in October.
Speaker 4: I was hit the plexiglass in this van and that
Speaker 4: was twenty four hours after we saw the siding, and
Speaker 4: the guy that was dried, he began to drive erratically
Speaker 4: like he had no control. I think it was intended
Speaker 4: for this to happen so that this saying, this object
Speaker 4: could come out. And I don't know whether it happened
Speaker 4: had something to do with the siding that we saw,
Speaker 4: but it happened within twenty four hours after we saw it.
Speaker 4: And I had mentioned to you the emails that I
Speaker 4: responded to you about on Twitter, that I was going
Speaker 4: to do a film and put all my little experiences
Speaker 4: in it because I want people to know what I saw,
Speaker 4: because there's so many people out there that have seen things,
Speaker 4: and I want them to know that they're not alone.
Speaker 4: It's just like the show that you have. People can
Speaker 4: come on and tell their stories and they know that
Speaker 4: they're not alone. You follow what I'm saying, But the
Speaker 4: way our government would have it is people don't know
Speaker 4: what they see. All they're telling the tale, you know,
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and when in fact they're telling
Speaker 4: the truth. They saw it even though somebody else didn't
Speaker 4: see it. Because a lot of times people see things
Speaker 4: and other people don't see it. And then sometimes you
Speaker 4: see something and a lot of people see it, you know,
Speaker 4: like for UFOs and things, and that was the paranormal
Speaker 4: and things like that. A lot of times things happen
Speaker 4: with people and other people don't see it, and then
Speaker 4: some people can see it too. I won't go into
Speaker 4: all of that, but had a lot of paranormal things
Speaker 4: and stuff like that too, and premonitions and dreams and things.
Speaker 4: I've written about it in some publications and things by
Speaker 4: telling certain stories, and everything that I've written about is true.
Speaker 4: And the stories that I'm telling you about the UFOs,
Speaker 4: they're true, and it's up to the people to believe
Speaker 4: it or whatever. What I saw, other people saw it too.
Speaker 5: Good stuff, Mary, Thank you for sharing all that.
Speaker 4: Oh, You're more than welcome.
Speaker 5: You know, Mary, you've seen UFOs in multiple states across decades. Now,
Speaker 5: do you feel there's a reason why you keep seeing them?
Speaker 4: Well? Oh, boy. Now, like I said, other people have
Speaker 4: seen them too. But when I was out in the Hamptons,
Speaker 4: I don't know if if I had not pointed it
Speaker 4: out to the people, they might not have seen you
Speaker 4: follow me. But other cases where I was and seeing them,
Speaker 4: even the set in Arizona, nobody hadn't seen it until
Speaker 4: I pointed out to them the following day, even though
Speaker 4: other people in other places were seeing it. Some people
Speaker 4: are born with the insight what the old folks you
Speaker 4: can see. I know for a fact I was, and
Speaker 4: as I said, I've written about it in some of
Speaker 4: my writings, telling my stories of things that happened and
Speaker 4: transpired and things like that. I think I might see
Speaker 4: things more so than some other people. I know for
Speaker 4: a fact I do about certain things. I know I
Speaker 4: am the chap of person that see things in other
Speaker 4: ways other than UFOs and things like that. So I
Speaker 4: consider myself special because I consider it a blessing to
Speaker 4: be able to see things. And like I said, I'm
Speaker 4: a true believer in other people being in the universe,
Speaker 4: in all galaxies, and I'm quite sure they come here.
Speaker 4: If you read the Bible, you know that we've been
Speaker 4: having visitors. Oh my God from way, way way back.
Speaker 4: I'm in tune with that, and that's why it doesn't
Speaker 4: frighten me when I see it like some people. Even
Speaker 4: when I have my paranormal things and premonitions and things,
Speaker 4: it doesn't frighten me. Where some people hear them so much,
Speaker 4: they probably would just like lose their mind, start running
Speaker 4: and never stop. I was born not to be afraid
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 5: You mentioned about premonitions. Is this something which is a
Speaker 5: standalone thing with you or was there any family members
Speaker 5: which were similar to you?
Speaker 4: They came from way back, different family members they had.
Speaker 4: They call it the gift of sight. Every child is
Speaker 4: not born with it, and some children are not born
Speaker 4: with it in that they could go to different generations
Speaker 4: or whatever. But I was born with it. My parents.
Speaker 4: I would tell them things when I was little, And
Speaker 4: first of all, I can remember things so far back
Speaker 4: that most people will say, oh, no, you don't remember that,
Speaker 4: and so some people I don't even tell them, But
Speaker 4: I know. I remember something once when I was like
Speaker 4: two years old, and I was telling my father about it.
Speaker 4: He says, but you can't remember that, you were only
Speaker 4: two years old. I says, well, I remember it. I
Speaker 4: can remember everything that happened that day. But my Mama
Speaker 4: and my daddy, they knew that. As a child, I
Speaker 4: used to tell them things. And you know, when the
Speaker 4: little kid is sitting around telling you something, they're like,
Speaker 4: what is she talking about? When they see it come
Speaker 4: to pass, they says, oh my god, it will be
Speaker 4: so far fetched. What I tell them what happened? They
Speaker 4: just look at me and laugh, and then they'd find
Speaker 4: out later it happened that way. And so it got
Speaker 4: to the point where Mom would when I would get
Speaker 4: up in the morning, she would pull me around the
Speaker 4: house and she says, what did you dream? That's nice?
Speaker 4: I would tell She says, don't tell nobody, and she
Speaker 4: would find out it was true, and she told me
Speaker 4: she says, don't tell me me dreams, because I guess
Speaker 4: she was afraid, Well, do you have a little kid
Speaker 4: tell you things like this? Don't telling what people might
Speaker 4: try to do for them. So I kept on to
Speaker 4: myself and things like that. But I was born this way,
Speaker 4: and I don't tell anybody because it's a blessing. Because
Speaker 4: you know things in advance, are you you see things
Speaker 4: decades before it happened, And I mean decades and sometimes
Speaker 4: it happened the next next week or next month. But
Speaker 4: you know, I saw my sister's death thirty eight years
Speaker 4: before she passed. But what I saw it prevented her
Speaker 4: from being from vang immediately because I told somebody about
Speaker 4: it and then went to see her and discovered that
Speaker 4: she was at the point of death and her husband
Speaker 4: wouldn't take her to the doctor because they was trying
Speaker 4: to kill he was trying to kill he and his girlfriend.
Speaker 4: She ended up living thirty eight years later, and she
Speaker 4: died the same month that I saw it. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I see things, I'm very blessed to have it, and
Speaker 4: I just go about everyday life like I'm supposed to,
Speaker 4: like a normal person. I don't divulge it, and just
Speaker 4: do my job and whatever I have to do, and
Speaker 4: be good to myself and everybody else, you know, mind
Speaker 4: my business, and just do what anybody would do, you know,
Speaker 4: just get on with life. And when I see these things,
Speaker 4: I can't help it because because like I said, I
Speaker 4: believe in God. When I'm shown these things, I'm very
Speaker 4: happy that I'm blessed and was chosen to see these things.
Speaker 4: And things like that. Sometimes it's a warning that I
Speaker 4: can warn other people, forewarning them about things, whether they
Speaker 4: believe it or not, myself to know whish direction to
Speaker 4: take and which not to take, and I consider it
Speaker 4: a blessing. But it's not like something that I discussed
Speaker 4: with people and talk about and things like that. I
Speaker 4: do have to give the sight and I'm thankful for it,
Speaker 4: and that could be why I've seen so many of
Speaker 4: these things. Even if one of them came out and
Speaker 4: spoke to me, I would not be afraid. You know
Speaker 4: what it's gonna be gonna be. I'm so blessed that
Speaker 4: I have seen those UFOs, because some people probably never
Speaker 4: saw one in their life, but I can say I
Speaker 4: truly seen it something that was not from here, and
Speaker 4: I'm thankful of that. If I had my way, I
Speaker 4: would get on spaceshipping and fly off with myself if
Speaker 4: I could to see what's happening in the planets, just
Speaker 4: like you see the astronauts and things doing. I'm the
Speaker 4: type of person I want to see what's going on everywhere,
Speaker 4: you know, I want to know. And that's why I
Speaker 4: said I don't doubt people when they say something, even
Speaker 4: though some people can say some far fetched things and
Speaker 4: it really don't be real and they know it. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, some people say some far fished
Speaker 4: things and it really be true. They really saw it
Speaker 4: or they really experienced it. For that, that's why I
Speaker 4: can't doubt anyone. It's not that I have to go
Speaker 4: along with it, but I don't doubt anyone when they
Speaker 4: say they experience something because you never know, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter the status of the person, whether they're rich, poor,
Speaker 4: a bum in the street. There could be an alcohol
Speaker 4: or drug addic. If somebody tells you this happened to
Speaker 4: me or I saw this, you can't discredit them just
Speaker 4: because of their status in life, because they could be
Speaker 4: telling you the truth, where you might have a person
Speaker 4: that's a rich person and they might tell you something
Speaker 4: and it's a lie. You follow what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I'm a believer. I will not doubt people when they
Speaker 4: say they saw this on the experience, just because who
Speaker 4: about a doubt what somebody else said that they saw experience.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, Mary. You know, over the years, my
Speaker 5: guests on this show, they've come from all walks of life,
Speaker 5: all backgrounds, all educational, levels, you name it, I've had
Speaker 5: him on it, and you should absolutely should always go
Speaker 5: into it with an open mind.
Speaker 4: You know you shouldn't. I'm just going to give you
Speaker 4: an example of something. I'm not going to go into details.
Speaker 4: I will say maybe like about fifteen years ago, or
Speaker 4: maybe a little before that, I was on a bus
Speaker 4: here in Manhattan and there was this lady and she
Speaker 4: was just talking, and she was just going off and
Speaker 4: just talking, and she was talking about how she was
Speaker 4: had all these surgeries and things like that where they
Speaker 4: had taken one of her kidneys and they'd get all
Speaker 4: this stuff and things like that. And she happened to
Speaker 4: measure and she said, yeah, and the doctor that did
Speaker 4: it his office is right there. Everybody thought she was crazy.
Speaker 4: I was not. I didn't doubt her. And she pulled
Speaker 4: her her top and she was shown all the different
Speaker 4: places where she had been cut. And I saw the
Speaker 4: name of the doctor that on the she pointed and
Speaker 4: yo and behold. A couple of months later, that same
Speaker 4: doctor was brought up on charges for taking people organs.
Speaker 4: But he was not advertising his business as a person
Speaker 4: like that. He was advertising plastic surgery. And that same
Speaker 4: doctor was brought up on charges. So that poor lady
Speaker 4: looked like a little bomb and a little crazy lady.
Speaker 4: But she was telling the truth. But the thing about it,
Speaker 4: I didn't doubt her. I just was sitting there. I
Speaker 4: didn't doubt her at all. Other people was looking at
Speaker 4: her crazy and stuff. I was just looking at her,
Speaker 4: paying attention. And when she tucked around on the bus
Speaker 4: and pointed and said, there's some doctors right there, and
Speaker 4: I remember his name. Two months later he was brought
Speaker 4: up on charges. He was using that as a cover
Speaker 4: and he was taking people's organs. So you just not
Speaker 4: only that, even if I hadn't ran into her, You
Speaker 4: just don't doubt people. Because people you might be less
Speaker 4: fortunate than others doesn't mean that you haven't had experiences
Speaker 4: and things like that and see things. So I just
Speaker 4: give everybody the benefit of the doctor. You know. That's
Speaker 4: the way I.
Speaker 5: Do it, absolutely, Mary, And I think you've probably just
Speaker 5: given us the best example of don't discredit someone just
Speaker 5: because of their background. I mean, that poor lady, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: It was, yes, And had she not mentioned the doctor,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have known who the doctor was when I
Speaker 4: had seen it on the news. But it's the same
Speaker 4: doctor name and his face and everything. It came on
Speaker 4: the news two months later. He was using it as
Speaker 4: a cover to take people's augans. He put on the
Speaker 4: anisthetus and therefore take their organs and sell them. But
Speaker 4: whatever the use he wanted to do with it, and
Speaker 4: what she had to go through, But so many people
Speaker 4: probably forgot about put that, poor litld lady said, And
Speaker 4: then you know, some of them the bus could have
Speaker 4: remembered the truth. You know, you never know. But she
Speaker 4: was telling the truth, and I didn't doubt her. As
Speaker 4: I said, I've come across so many people in my lifetime,
Speaker 4: as a child, as an adult. They would say things
Speaker 4: and it was true, and I didn't doubt on so many,
Speaker 4: so many things in different categories of what was happening
Speaker 4: to them or what they had experienced, and I didn't
Speaker 4: doubt them. Some of them I found out later they
Speaker 4: were telling the truth, and some of them I never
Speaker 4: did because it just wasn't definitely. I wasn't going out
Speaker 4: trying to chastise them to see if they were telling
Speaker 4: the truth. But I just never was around but to
Speaker 4: see if what they had said was true or not.
Speaker 4: As some was and in all walks of life, I've
Speaker 4: met people like that and you never know. So I
Speaker 4: just give everybody the benefit of the doubt because who
Speaker 4: am I to judge, Because I wouldn't want nobody judging
Speaker 4: me to say, oh, this didn't happen to you. That
Speaker 4: didn't happen to you. You didn't see that. It's just
Speaker 4: like sometimes when children be telling you that people did
Speaker 4: things to them that you don't doubt. I mean, I
Speaker 4: know some little kids might tell or tale, but you
Speaker 4: call them a little white lies. Some of them may
Speaker 4: be telling the truth. And whether it's adult, a child,
Speaker 4: or whatever, don't say it didn't happen, because it could
Speaker 4: have happened. And I'm thankful that I was raised like that.
Speaker 4: Don't just discredit someone I said, oh, no, you're not
Speaker 4: telling the truth. And I'm like that a lot because
Speaker 4: when I was little, I would tell my parents sayings.
Speaker 4: In the beginning they didn't believe, but then they found
Speaker 4: out I was telling the truth. And so it's like
Speaker 4: I have two children, and when I raised my kids
Speaker 4: when they were little, said I always tell mommy the truth,
Speaker 4: don't lie, and I'll believe you. And they would tell
Speaker 4: me things and I never will say, oh, you're telling
Speaker 4: me to tell you're not telling the truth. One time,
Speaker 4: my little baby told me something that the nanny had done,
Speaker 4: and it was so far fetched, but I did not
Speaker 4: doubt him. He told me exactly, Jesus.
Speaker 5: Child is coming to your saying something happened. You know,
Speaker 5: do listen to them.
Speaker 4: You have to listen to them because you don't know,
Speaker 4: and you just keep watch. She didn't do anything to
Speaker 4: him bad except for tie him to the dog on
Speaker 4: bed post while she did some other things in the house.
Speaker 4: It's not like she You understand what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: when he told me what she did, I said what
Speaker 4: And he says, yes, mommy, And he told me, and
Speaker 4: he told me the person that she was with, and
Speaker 4: I says, oh my god. The baby wasn't lying. He
Speaker 4: was not lying. He was like about three years old.
Speaker 4: And I found out it to be true, and I
Speaker 4: fired too. Yeah, she's so Jesus my lord, she was,
Speaker 4: and she was the sweetest babysit up and U but
Speaker 4: she was had somebody in the house that shouldn't have
Speaker 4: been there. She shouldn't have tied my baby to the
Speaker 4: dog on bed post, so he couldn't see you follow
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But the baby told me when I came.
Speaker 5: Home, always listened to the little ones, and poor little thing.
Speaker 4: He couldn't pronounce the person that was with the last
Speaker 4: he could pronounce the name that good, but I knew
Speaker 4: who he was talking about. I says, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: Now, Mary, Now, I just want to touch briefly on
Speaker 5: this object which came out of your nose. And I
Speaker 5: know you did say now, up en to that point,
Speaker 5: you hadn't been experiencing any headaches or nosebleeds, or any
Speaker 5: congestion or nothing.
Speaker 4: Never never, never. That's why it was. It was so shocking.
Speaker 4: But to think about it when it came out, I
Speaker 4: didn't tell nobody in the van. I just looked at
Speaker 4: it and blood and I looked at it and I
Speaker 4: felt it, and then I cleanked it off like with
Speaker 4: a T shirt, and I could see the design. I says,
Speaker 4: oh my god, what is this? And I just like
Speaker 4: put it in a tsue and put it in my
Speaker 4: set back and I cleaned my nose. I didn't tell
Speaker 4: nobody about it. And I've been trying to look for
Speaker 4: that particular design for years, and I drew it from
Speaker 4: memory myself on paper. And as I said, a few
Speaker 4: months ago, I saw someone that I can't make any
Speaker 4: name had a design. I don't know whether how they
Speaker 4: got it, but I do know one thing. I took
Speaker 4: that design and I went on the internet and I
Speaker 4: found something like that, but it was different. In other words,
Speaker 4: the ones that they have is not correct. The one
Speaker 4: that the object that I found on the internet is right.
Speaker 4: But it's just that my thing that fell on my
Speaker 4: nose is almost identicult to the one that I told
Speaker 4: you that has been something from centuries ago, but minds
Speaker 4: went into a different detail about it on certain points
Speaker 4: in it. You follow what I'm saying, and maybe now
Speaker 4: this is what just came to me. The people that
Speaker 4: did this from centuries ago might not have known the
Speaker 4: way that they had it. They might not have believed
Speaker 4: that it should have been done a certain things to
Speaker 4: it should have been done differently. I believe what I
Speaker 4: have is the real deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah. An important question is have you still got it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, and you've had it for all this time.
Speaker 4: I found something just recently on the internet. Is the
Speaker 4: design is identical except for certain parts of it. It's
Speaker 4: something that comes from way way, way back from centuries ago,
Speaker 4: left off something that was on the one that I have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you talking more of the cult aspect?
Speaker 4: It could be, but it could be something from another world,
Speaker 4: someplace else. Maybe the person that about the a cult
Speaker 4: thing tell the way they designed it. Parts of it
Speaker 4: they didn't put there because they didn't think it was right.
Speaker 4: But what came out of me that design, I think
Speaker 4: it is the real deal, and it's just something very
Speaker 4: slight difference.
Speaker 5: Now are you talking about the actual shape of the
Speaker 5: object itself or is there like some kind of insignature
Speaker 5: or like logo or design actually embedded on it.
Speaker 4: Almost like part of the shape, certain parts of the shape.
Speaker 5: How big is it? It's the size of the dime,
Speaker 5: the size of a dime.
Speaker 4: Yes, And that design is in on it. And I
Speaker 4: feel that it was something that was maybe implanted somehow.
Speaker 4: It got up my nose and probably been there since
Speaker 4: I was a baby young. It's all I can say.
Speaker 4: But it was time for it to come out, and
Speaker 4: it came out twenty four hours after I saw that
Speaker 4: thing in the Hamptons. And like I said, the guy
Speaker 4: was driving erratically, but he had never driven like that before,
Speaker 4: and I hit my head, and it wasn't that part,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, this thing just pops out
Speaker 4: in the blood as if it was intended to. Because
Speaker 4: like I said, there's something I'm going to do with it,
Speaker 4: and when I do it with it, then everybody would
Speaker 4: know about it.
Speaker 5: That's no problem. I mean obviously definitely, yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: when you do get to that stage, let us know.
Speaker 4: I definitely will when when I do what I'm going
Speaker 4: to do with it. Believe me, as matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I will get a copy to you when I do
Speaker 4: what I want to do with it. But I'm going
Speaker 4: to do with it.
Speaker 5: You've got us all intrigue now, Mary, you know it's
Speaker 5: in the size of a dime.
Speaker 4: I didn't feel nothing. I never had a problem difficult
Speaker 4: to breathe in or anything in my life. Wouldn't even
Speaker 4: have known it was there. And the thing about it,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, well, where did the devil did this thing
Speaker 4: come from? If it's just weird, I say, how did
Speaker 4: this just come just from the bump and how did it?
Speaker 4: Where did it come from? That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Because your nostrils, the breathing part where you go up
Speaker 4: in there and it didn't come from like the inner
Speaker 4: part around just the inner party didn't come from there,
Speaker 4: because it had to come from within somewhere. But this
Speaker 4: thing just came. When I got the thing and the
Speaker 4: stuff came out my nose and I looked in my
Speaker 4: hand and I says, oh my god. And as I said,
Speaker 4: I didn't say anything to anyone. If you don't say
Speaker 4: something to somebody like that, I just put it in
Speaker 4: a tissue, wiped it and stuff like that, and put
Speaker 4: it in a tissue, put up and clean my nose.
Speaker 4: And then I had to direct them. Poor little driver
Speaker 4: hid to get to the other side because the director,
Speaker 4: she was scared, didn't know what to do. Got to
Speaker 4: the other side, and after that ahel broke loose, unreal,
Speaker 4: like something evil. It's like the devil was in people,
Speaker 4: you know that particular night.
Speaker 5: So everyone changed that night.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I'm saying. They changed. I says, oh
Speaker 4: my god. This was directly after directly afterwards.
Speaker 5: They're all acting basically at a character.
Speaker 4: Yes, when we walked around there and got in another
Speaker 4: car to wait until the another car to get us
Speaker 4: another band, the people at that particular place was acting weird.
Speaker 4: Oh god, it was psych This is scary and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting there afraid that my nose is gonna start bleeding.
Speaker 4: What is going on? It's just like evil took over
Speaker 4: just for that particular night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you go to the doctor afterwards?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no no no. It was no need to
Speaker 4: go to the doctor.
Speaker 7: M M.
Speaker 4: I know, stop bleeding almost immediately afterwards. But I was
Speaker 4: just in shock from what had happened. It's like a
Speaker 4: demonic thing to go over.
Speaker 5: Incredible. You mentioned evil there. Had you ever experienced anything
Speaker 5: like that before? I mean that feeling of evil, not
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: It's just like the devil was in people.
Speaker 5: How do you work for this crew before?
Speaker 4: I had been working with them for almost a month
Speaker 4: and nothing like that never happened. And it was only
Speaker 4: like about four people in the car. We got along
Speaker 4: very well.
Speaker 5: This isn't just a case of inconvenience having to pull
Speaker 5: over and time wasted and needed to get to another job.
Speaker 4: No, it was just some evilness came out once we
Speaker 4: got We got off the highway and like I said,
Speaker 4: went to the corner to that first exit and was
Speaker 4: waiting there. That's when everything just oh god, it just
Speaker 4: people just became evil included a worker at one of
Speaker 4: the works at the place. It was just, oh god,
Speaker 4: so bad that I got out of at another person
Speaker 4: that was with me, and I went and sat over
Speaker 4: on the street, and the restaurant was right next to that.
Speaker 4: I went and I just sat down on my little
Speaker 4: luggage on the streets, wrapped by that closing fence, and
Speaker 4: waited until the UPM sent a van for us. And
Speaker 4: I called the UPM up and I told him. I says,
Speaker 4: please hurry and send a van. I says, because a
Speaker 4: no idea what I've been going through. I says, it
Speaker 4: is not a good situation, you know. And I says,
Speaker 4: so please send a van to get us as quick
Speaker 4: as possible. I says, because it is not a pretty situation.
Speaker 4: I says, I can't go into it now, but just
Speaker 4: trust me. I need you to send a vandit very
Speaker 4: very quick, and he did and went home and after
Speaker 4: that everything was fine. It was just, oh boy, it
Speaker 4: was weird, very very weird, fascinating.
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Speaker 5: You know, Mary, Now, you've got quite an extensive career.
Speaker 5: You've been doing that job for quite a while. You've
Speaker 5: worked on some great projects.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I've done over one hundred and fifty some projects.
Speaker 4: I just didn't get the credit for all of them.
Speaker 4: But I worked on so many projects. I started adding
Speaker 4: our theater Broadway shows, and I've taken the shows all
Speaker 4: over the world. And then I've worked television and you know,
Speaker 4: all the news outlets and different things, saving that live
Speaker 4: and all types of our TV shows and film. I've
Speaker 4: been doing films. Started doing the film. I left the
Speaker 4: TV stuff and started doing film nineteen ninety and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I started doing film. But I've been in this
Speaker 4: business for a long time and all sorts of entertainment.
Speaker 5: Too many to mention.
Speaker 4: But do you know what?
Speaker 5: You actually have something common with a guest I had
Speaker 5: on a few years ago. Oh yeah, yeah, so you did.
Speaker 5: You were the hairstylist on the Gangs of New York. Yes,
Speaker 5: we had a guest on years ago. His name was
Speaker 5: John Perez and he was the stuntman on Gangs of
Speaker 5: New York. Here'll be listening now, I bet you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I worked on Gangs in New York.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I've had a lot of actors on here,
Speaker 5: and actresses and directors and all kinds of people who's
Speaker 5: work in show business, and not just that. You've actually
Speaker 5: you did it. You did a couple of UFO and
Speaker 5: alien films.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did War the World.
Speaker 5: You did War the World. You did Signs You're on
Speaker 5: the Yes, which is a great movie. That was that
Speaker 5: was Mel Gibson. Yes, and Men in Black.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 5: I left what I had an interesting job. That's great.
Speaker 5: You've done. You've done so much. You must enjoy that.
Speaker 4: Yes, I put it to you like this doing film.
Speaker 4: I found my nition in life. You do the hair
Speaker 4: are you, you travel, you work with so many people.
Speaker 4: You go to different places, go to places that you
Speaker 4: probably will never gone, say for s and Soul. Everybody
Speaker 4: you might say, well, okay, I'm going to go to
Speaker 4: New York Friday, and I said, well I'm going to
Speaker 4: go to London or whatever. But all those different places
Speaker 4: you go. You never go to small places, small little towns,
Speaker 4: or different states and things. But when you're doing THELM,
Speaker 4: you don't necessarily go to the big cities. You go
Speaker 4: to a small, little off the track places where a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't go to shoot certain scenes, so
Speaker 4: you get a chance to see the real town and
Speaker 4: the real parts of the place. It's like I said,
Speaker 4: when we was when we were in Arizona shooting, we
Speaker 4: went to places and it looked like time had forgot
Speaker 4: where people hadn't been out there in hundreds of years,
Speaker 4: and we were out there shooting. Some of the rivers
Speaker 4: were dried up, totally dried up, and we were down
Speaker 4: in the bottom of it. And it takes a long
Speaker 4: time for a river to dry up like that. So
Speaker 4: you just go to all these places and you meet
Speaker 4: so many people, and not necessary to people on the set,
Speaker 4: but you meet people in the town you know from
Speaker 4: that area. It's just a beautiful thing. You just meet
Speaker 4: people from all walks of life, people that are working there,
Speaker 4: not necessary to act as but you know, just like
Speaker 4: you said, the stunt man and other people in hair
Speaker 4: make up and I drove they come from all over
Speaker 4: the world to work on movies and end up meeting
Speaker 4: them plans from all of the world. I have people
Speaker 4: from friends from Iceland, So you just don't have friends
Speaker 4: that you grew up with or you met. When you
Speaker 4: leave home and go stay in another town, you meet
Speaker 4: people from everywhere, and it's so one of the things.
Speaker 4: And then you just pack up your little stuff and
Speaker 4: you go to the next set and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And what I like about the film, it's the thing
Speaker 4: because you you can have a period piece where you're
Speaker 4: recreating from something that happened centuries ago. Are you doing
Speaker 4: something modern? Paranormal his els and and a lot of
Speaker 4: times when they be shooting these things, they be taking
Speaker 4: it from two stories. You know. That's why I says
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to do one by all of my
Speaker 4: little experiences, but have to sit in a farm where
Speaker 4: you can enjoy it with one thing lead to enough.
Speaker 4: I want to get into producing and directing myself, and
Speaker 4: it's good. I love meeting people. I truly do.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Twenty odd years ago, I was in the Seven
Speaker 5: Eyes Islands of Thailand and I had just walked in
Speaker 5: Baba and I sat down having a drink and someone
Speaker 5: comes to me and say, you know, would you like
Speaker 5: to be an extra in a movie about pirates? And
Speaker 5: I thought at the time it was, you know, the
Speaker 5: Pirates of the Caribbean movie. It wasn't Pirates of the Caribbean,
Speaker 5: but it was an American film company called Living Films,
Speaker 5: and I was in a period movie called black Beard.
Speaker 5: It was like a two part mini series based on
Speaker 5: black Beard the Pirate. They filmed it over in Thailand
Speaker 5: because it was cheaper and it was more like the Bahamas.
Speaker 5: And I got to meet I mean, you've met so
Speaker 5: many people. I mean, his mine's just going to pale
Speaker 5: in comparison. But I met Richard Chamberlain, the actor, Stacey
Speaker 5: Ketch and Angus McFadden. There's a few other actors in
Speaker 5: there that are famous now, but they weren't really twenty
Speaker 5: odd years ago. But yeah, it was a great experience.
Speaker 5: They built a whole town on top of an old
Speaker 5: coconut plantation. It was a massive set, literally a whole
Speaker 5: town and a whole pirate ship they built just for
Speaker 5: this movie alone. It was it was a big budget one.
Speaker 5: And when they'd finished, because it was all level ground
Speaker 5: when they built it, they left, they left all the
Speaker 5: setup and they gave it to the to the villagers,
Speaker 5: which it was Thailand, so it was like a small
Speaker 5: village and they and now people live in these houses.
Speaker 5: A great experience, Yeah, they can.
Speaker 4: They can build those set designers, they can build anything.
Speaker 4: Very happy that you have that experience. So this way
Speaker 4: you know exactly what it's what it's somewhat is like
Speaker 4: on a set, because some people have never been on
Speaker 4: a movie set and they don't understand anything what it's about.
Speaker 4: And so that's a great experience for you. It's exciting
Speaker 4: and I truly enjoy it. And like I said, I
Speaker 4: met so many nice people. It's very very.
Speaker 5: Interesting, very interesting. Indeed, I was.
Speaker 4: Always from from as farback as I can remember myself,
Speaker 4: I always believed in dreams and premonitions and things because
Speaker 4: my parents used to always talk about it and those
Speaker 4: things and what they've seen, and I mean real ghosts
Speaker 4: and also godly things like the supernatural and so growing
Speaker 4: up I couldn't but keep it know it. And also
Speaker 4: they had the gift of sight that they could see things.
Speaker 4: My father could too. Anyway, I told a story about
Speaker 4: when I first began to have the prophetic dreams and
Speaker 4: how it came about, and who came and spoke to
Speaker 4: me in my dreams and showed it to me, and
Speaker 4: ever since then I was having them. It really happened.
Speaker 4: It really really happened. I had a biblical person to
Speaker 4: come to me, just led out to me. I woke
Speaker 4: up that morning and I told my parents. I don't
Speaker 4: know what they thought. They found out it to be true.
Speaker 4: I'm really into that the UFOs because I know they're real.
Speaker 4: We're not here alone. People have prophetic dreams. You do
Speaker 4: have the spirits and God and the angels come to
Speaker 4: you and show you things to warning whether it's good bad.
Speaker 4: They're warning you about it. And some people can pick
Speaker 4: up on things. Some people can see ghosts where other
Speaker 4: people can't. Some people are born with it. So I'm
Speaker 4: a firm believer in all of that. My mama saw
Speaker 4: her neighbor who had passed away, an older lady who
Speaker 4: had passed away, and she saw her one day on
Speaker 4: her doorsteps looking at her. She had a little a
Speaker 4: little cat that used to be around all there, and
Speaker 4: the little cat was right there by her feet. The
Speaker 4: little cat was still alive, but the little cat was
Speaker 4: right there by her feet. While the ladies turning around
Speaker 4: looking at my mother. She wanted me to see her
Speaker 4: because she was good friends. She was much older than
Speaker 4: my mama, but they were very good friends, and they
Speaker 4: were neighbors. And my mother said she was so upset
Speaker 4: when she had died. She saw just as plain now
Speaker 4: her little cat was right there, and then the little
Speaker 4: cat was looking up at her because he knew it
Speaker 4: was there. The little cat knew she was there. And
Speaker 4: then when she disappeared, the little cat just walked on
Speaker 4: into the on the porch. And my mother said she
Speaker 4: saw bench. And my father used to tell me about
Speaker 4: all of his ghost storis that happened to him, how
Speaker 4: he was chased by doses and when he was young,
Speaker 4: and he was telling the truth, and I put them
Speaker 4: all in my writings and things when the story came
Speaker 4: up about them and stuff like that, because it's part
Speaker 4: of my life, so I have quite a few stories
Speaker 4: in there about things that happen, and sometimes I see
Speaker 4: things as it's really happening right then, at that moment,
Speaker 4: and I'll never forget. I had an ex boyfriend passed away.
Speaker 4: This was in two thousand and two, and I saw
Speaker 4: what was happening to him, and people had said it
Speaker 4: was suicide, but I knew he didn't kill himself. He
Speaker 4: was murdered. And I saw the whole thing and who
Speaker 4: did it while it was happening.
Speaker 5: Did anything ever come of that?
Speaker 4: They arrested a lady, but they let her go and
Speaker 4: just trucked it up to a suicide. I guess they
Speaker 4: didn't want to. They let her go, but I knew
Speaker 4: she had killed him because I saw it.
Speaker 5: But they let her go in sufficient evidence.
Speaker 4: This is what they're saying. But she kills him because
Speaker 4: I saw it. God showed it to me while it
Speaker 4: was happening. I had talked to her and I wrote
Speaker 4: all about it. Actually, I had made a trip especially
Speaker 4: to that state, especially just so I could to take
Speaker 4: him to a film to show him my name in
Speaker 4: the credits, because I never let anyone from the town
Speaker 4: where I grew up in the never knew what I
Speaker 4: did all these years. They never knew some of them
Speaker 4: knew that I had a salon at one pointment, they
Speaker 4: never knew why I was in the business because I
Speaker 4: never talked about it. Was going to go home and
Speaker 4: I was going to show him having to take me
Speaker 4: to a movie to show him my name on the
Speaker 4: screen credits, because he had known that I was doing Broadway.
Speaker 4: And he was very happy and pleased for me, because
Speaker 4: I make a long story shore I ran away from
Speaker 4: him his common knowledge, because I wrote about it, was
Speaker 4: very pleased that I had ran away from him, because
Speaker 4: he said, had I not ran away from him, I
Speaker 4: would have had a good life, but I would not
Speaker 4: have been able to travel and have a success doing
Speaker 4: what I was doing all over the world and seeing
Speaker 4: the world doing hair for people in film and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. And so he was very pleased for me.
Speaker 4: So anyway, to make a long story short, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have him to take me to the theaters on New
Speaker 4: Year's Day to let see my name on spreen credits.
Speaker 4: So I got so caught up and running my mouth
Speaker 4: with my little classmate that I would always call when
Speaker 4: I would go home. We'd be on the phone and
Speaker 4: taking care of business, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I didn't call him until Christmas night and I says,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm the phone with my little classmate,
Speaker 4: and I says, gee, I haven't called him. I got
Speaker 4: to call him now because I wanted him to take
Speaker 4: me to the movies. I said, well, I'm gonna asking
Speaker 4: if he would take me to the movies on New
Speaker 4: Year's Day, you know, since Christmas was already I was over.
Speaker 4: And so I hung up the phone and I called him.
Speaker 4: And when I called him, he was happy to hear
Speaker 4: from me and everything, and he asked, you know, so
Speaker 4: he asked about the family and everything. And I could
Speaker 4: tell that he was not alone in that house. Door
Speaker 4: bell ring, and so I asked him, I said, well,
Speaker 4: do you have to go? I says, I, you want
Speaker 4: to take my won't call you back or you call
Speaker 4: me back? He says no.
Speaker 1: He was sad.
Speaker 4: It just wasn't him. And I said to myself, now,
Speaker 4: I know somebody's in the house, and I guess somebody
Speaker 4: else just came and rang the bell. But he knows.
Speaker 4: I know he has other people because he's already been
Speaker 4: married after we broke up and gotten a divorce he
Speaker 4: knew I was with people, and we could talk and
Speaker 4: didn't have to be afraid to talk about whoever, if
Speaker 4: we had accompany or something like that, because we were friends.
Speaker 4: And I said, that's just not him, and I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: I hung up the phone, and I was so sad.
Speaker 4: I was so hurt, and I was heartbroken, not because
Speaker 4: he had someone there, but because we were friends. He
Speaker 4: could have said, yes, I'll call you back, said you child,
Speaker 4: or you can call me whatever. But as I said,
Speaker 4: I knew somebody was in the house with him. I
Speaker 4: could tell. So normally when I go at my home,
Speaker 4: I have it since then, and I would always go
Speaker 4: and lock the gates, so nobody won driving my yard
Speaker 4: talking in to wake me up. I was so upset.
Speaker 4: I laid down on the sofa and I forgot that
Speaker 4: I hadn't locked my gate, and I went into a
Speaker 4: deep spiritual realm and I the Lord just was showing stuff.
Speaker 4: I was just dreaming and I was seeing things, and
Speaker 4: I would wake up and I would say, oh God,
Speaker 4: I gotta go to bed, and I just couldn't get
Speaker 4: up that deep sleep. Maybe lay right here on the sofa,
Speaker 4: and I was seeing all these things of what was
Speaker 4: happening and everybody and I saw him in bed, and
Speaker 4: I saw somebody kill him, and I saw everything, and
Speaker 4: I finally forced myself to go to bed, and I
Speaker 4: went to bed. And shortly after I got to bed,
Speaker 4: like less than a hour. It was like about seven
Speaker 4: point thirty. Then somebody knocks on my door, and that's
Speaker 4: when I realized I hadn't locked my gate that night
Speaker 4: to the door, and it was another old classmate, and
Speaker 4: I chatted with him for a while. But anyway, to
Speaker 4: make a long story short, I didn't find out about
Speaker 4: the death of my friend until that night. Classmate called
Speaker 4: me and she says, are you sitting down? I says no,
Speaker 4: She said, well sit down, and I sat down, and
Speaker 4: that's when she told me. She says, you know, Billy
Speaker 4: C died last night. I says what she said. Yeah,
Speaker 4: She says, so he killed himself. I said, no, he didn't,
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, he came back and about
Speaker 4: that dream, I said, he didn't kill himself. I says,
Speaker 4: the lady kills him, and I described woman to her.
Speaker 4: I said, this woman kills him and I told her
Speaker 4: about this hotel, I says, and there's a hotel where
Speaker 4: he knows this one works at a hotel. And I says,
Speaker 4: and the manager knows him. I says, he didn't kill himself.
Speaker 4: She shot him and I you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And I says, oh my god, Wow. So anyway, God
Speaker 4: has showed me everything that night, of everything height was
Speaker 4: so the next morning when I actually that night, I
Speaker 4: was so scared to stay in the hospital, said because
Speaker 4: I knew the woman had been in the house with him,
Speaker 4: and I was afraid she would get my phone them
Speaker 4: off the call ID and probably come and try to
Speaker 4: kill me. Because she knew I was on the phone,
Speaker 4: she might have tried to come and hurt me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I had to get someone to come and stay
Speaker 4: with me that night because I didn't have no weapon
Speaker 4: to protect myself. I'm being very honest, Nick. So anyway,
Speaker 4: to make a long story short, I got a cousin
Speaker 4: to come over. So anyway, the next morning, I got
Speaker 4: up and I had to go to the hardware store.
Speaker 4: But I went to the hardware store, the people in
Speaker 4: the store was talking about they had arrested this woman
Speaker 4: for his murder, but they let her go. So I
Speaker 4: knew they had a maid and arrest, and then they
Speaker 4: said that they had let her go, and so I
Speaker 4: talked to her for a while, and I went on
Speaker 4: back home, and then I start to make my rounds
Speaker 4: of going to see his family members and stuff and
Speaker 4: things like that. But I knew he did not kill himself.
Speaker 4: That I knew for a fact, And because I had
Speaker 4: already seen it while it was happening, God showed it
Speaker 4: to me, you know, And I'm happy I did, because
Speaker 4: other than that, I would have bought it. I would
Speaker 4: have bought the idea that he had really killed himself.
Speaker 4: But the Lord had showed me he didn't kill himself.
Speaker 4: She killed him. She took all the money because she
Speaker 4: wanted him to marry or he didn't want to marry her,
Speaker 4: and he had taken out about four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 4: from the bank and all that Mede was gone when
Speaker 4: the family member got there. He was in the house
Speaker 4: dead for quite a while that day, actually ever since
Speaker 4: that night, up until about maybe five or six o'clock
Speaker 4: that evening, then following evenings when they found out that
Speaker 4: he had died. You know, that he was dead and
Speaker 4: the woman was long gone. But anyway, they found out
Speaker 4: about her and they arrested her, but then they let
Speaker 4: her go, but believe me, she killed him. They never
Speaker 4: got the money back, so I had to write about that.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll be interesting reading about that married.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I've written too. Boo. It's in them one
Speaker 4: of them all. You can read it for free, one
Speaker 4: of them. I wanted the people the story to know.
Speaker 4: I wanted the people to be able it really this way,
Speaker 4: they didn't have to buy it because the story I
Speaker 4: was trying to tell about elderly abuse, I didn't want
Speaker 4: them to have to pay for unless it just wanted
Speaker 4: a paperback copy in the hand, you know, because I
Speaker 4: wanted to bring over barness to elder abused because my mama,
Speaker 4: she died from being abused by my siblings, wanted that
Speaker 4: to be told. And the next one I wrote because
Speaker 4: about this guy. I wanted to tell his story among
Speaker 4: other stories too, writing about true things, things that really happened,
Speaker 4: and put them into story form. And some stories will
Speaker 4: make you laugh, some make you cries, someone make you
Speaker 4: get angry, but overall it's something that you would enjoy.
Speaker 4: It's something for everybody, you know, but their true stories.
Speaker 5: Is on to the point, personal words to the.
Speaker 4: Part person words where it said books. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 4: link to the books and it's only two books now
Speaker 4: and that's me and Jesus got spoke to me, and
Speaker 4: I want to show you my name right the wrongs.
Speaker 4: The reason why I did the Me and Jesus God
Speaker 4: spoke to me is because my mom the night that well,
Speaker 4: when I found out that she was at death's door
Speaker 4: and was being abused. I had came home from work
Speaker 4: from doing the film, and I couldn't get no while
Speaker 4: I was too tired to drive, I couldn't get nobody
Speaker 4: to drive me, too late to take a praine, and
Speaker 4: I couldn't get a plane out, and I couldn't get
Speaker 4: one out early enough the next day to go. So
Speaker 4: the only thing I could do was get on my
Speaker 4: knees and pray the guard and tell him what was
Speaker 4: going on. And he spoke to me out loud in
Speaker 4: my house and told me says, if you make an
Speaker 4: effort and put one foot forward, I'll push you the
Speaker 4: rest of away. And I got enough for strength get up,
Speaker 4: I went and grabbed I looked around the room and
Speaker 4: I knew who it was. Grabbed me a small little
Speaker 4: cloth luggage, closed the windows, got my keys, and I
Speaker 4: walked about three blocks to car rental. Rented me a car,
Speaker 4: and I was driving by myself. I had so much
Speaker 4: energy because I had been I was sleepy and tired
Speaker 4: because I had been all that morning and coming home
Speaker 4: in the evening, like about six o'clock and finding out
Speaker 4: this message on the phone about my mom and what
Speaker 4: was going on with her. And I couldn't get no
Speaker 4: phone calls trying to get reservation. It couldn't get anything,
Speaker 4: and nobody did drive it because I knew I was
Speaker 4: too sleepy to drive by myself. And that's when I
Speaker 4: got on my knees. And it had to be about
Speaker 4: maybe nine o'clock at night. I got on my knees
Speaker 4: and stopped praying, and that's when the Lord spoke to me,
Speaker 4: and I just got up and got energy. I was
Speaker 4: energized like never before. And I walked around and rented
Speaker 4: me a car and got on the turnpike and headed
Speaker 4: south on ninety five and I was driving, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I got so sleepy it was about
Speaker 4: to run off the road, and this car kept punking
Speaker 4: his horn to wake me up before I went over.
Speaker 4: I would keep passing the exits to the you know,
Speaker 4: to to rest stop exits, because I was trying to
Speaker 4: get home, and I'm telling you as sleep as I was.
Speaker 4: And finally, when I got down the end of Virginia,
Speaker 4: just before North Carolina, passed a rest stop exit and
Speaker 4: I was so tired I can hardly put my foot
Speaker 4: on the gas out of break. And this man came
Speaker 4: around me. He was an occasion man and a great car.
Speaker 4: He pulled around me and he pointed to that sign,
Speaker 4: the rest stop, and he blocked me. He blocked his
Speaker 4: car in front of me and said, go to that sign,
Speaker 4: and I was not afraid. I backed up a couple
Speaker 4: of years and I went down to the exit and
Speaker 4: turned and just pulled into the gas station. But I
Speaker 4: didn't need gas, so I pulled in and the guy
Speaker 4: pulled in, and he got out his car and came
Speaker 4: to me and he told me. He says, I've been
Speaker 4: following you for over eighty some miles, and every time
Speaker 4: you get to a rest stop exit, you keep on going.
Speaker 4: He said, you will run off the road, running off
Speaker 4: the road, and I will hank my horn, he says,
Speaker 4: And I've been following you, and he says, I can't
Speaker 4: let you go any further because you're not gonna be
Speaker 4: good to nobody. Said, I know you're trying to get
Speaker 4: someplace important to see somebody, but you won't be no
Speaker 4: good to you are them? And I told him, I says,
Speaker 4: you are that angel that God spoke to me about tonight.
Speaker 4: And I told him how I had came home from
Speaker 4: work and was too tired to drive, and I heard
Speaker 4: that my mama was at death's door and all I
Speaker 4: could do was pray, I says, and God spoke to
Speaker 4: me out loud in my house and said, if you
Speaker 4: make an effort and put one foot forward, I'll push
Speaker 4: you the rest of the way. I says, you are
Speaker 4: the angel that pushed me. I says, God wanted me
Speaker 4: to be a certain distance so I will get to
Speaker 4: my mama in time before noon tomorrow because I know
Speaker 4: if I don't get it by noon, she won't be alive.
Speaker 4: And so he told me to go to you know,
Speaker 4: the hotels and get a room out and I did.
Speaker 4: But it was the funniest thing. Everything was filled because
Speaker 4: it was drizzling rain, and the last one I went to,
Speaker 4: but something just told me said, go to the bathroom here.
Speaker 4: At the gas station, just in case those rooms are
Speaker 4: filled up and I could sleep in the car. I
Speaker 4: went to one motel. It was filled up, so I
Speaker 4: pulled into the next room and I popped real close
Speaker 4: to the interest. I said, because if they don't have
Speaker 4: a room, I'm gonna come in here and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: sleep in the car, you know. And the lady had
Speaker 4: a room. She said, you got the last room, said
Speaker 4: we have. She said, everybody's coming in off the road
Speaker 4: to night because it's rain. I got a wake up
Speaker 4: call for five thirty that morning, and I was out
Speaker 4: on the road, and sure enough, I got into the
Speaker 4: hometown about maybe eleven thirty, and I I stopped by
Speaker 4: a supermarket first to get us some food because she
Speaker 4: was hungry. They were starving her to death. Nick starving
Speaker 4: my mother to death intentionally, and she was so sick
Speaker 4: she couldn't do anything for herself. And I bought her
Speaker 4: some food and I pulled in the in the drive
Speaker 4: and I walked in the house and I met my
Speaker 4: dead brother going out the back door. And when I
Speaker 4: saw my mother, I knew that, as I said, had
Speaker 4: I not gotten there by noon, she would have been dead.
Speaker 4: She was so pitiful, looked at like a little throna
Speaker 4: with darrel like he on the streets of New York.
Speaker 4: And I got her up and took her a chair,
Speaker 4: and I fed her and then I gave her a
Speaker 4: bath and everything like that. But God wanted me to
Speaker 4: be there because had I not gotten it, she would
Speaker 4: have died because she would have lost all hopes. She
Speaker 4: was hungry and would have lost all hope, you know.
Speaker 4: And just so happened a friend, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: my boyfriend, the one that I told her that they said,
Speaker 4: killed himself and I told her he didn't. His sister
Speaker 4: and his niece had came out to the house that
Speaker 4: day while I was working, just before the night before
Speaker 4: I came, and they discovered that my mama being mistreated.
Speaker 4: And they they the one that left the message on
Speaker 4: the airth machine to tell me what was going on.
Speaker 4: And I called them and they told me what was
Speaker 4: going on. And because they had been coming to the
Speaker 4: house and they couldn't get in the house because my
Speaker 4: mother couldn't open the door because she was so weak,
Speaker 4: and they had changed their locks where she couldn't open it.
Speaker 4: And she was old, she was ninety two, but she
Speaker 4: was just weak from being hungry. And so anyway, that's
Speaker 4: true story. And God spoke to me, and that's how
Speaker 4: I got there. And she lived up about two and
Speaker 4: a half weeks later, you know, but she was too
Speaker 4: far gone for me to nurse back to health. But
Speaker 4: I was there with her to clean her up and
Speaker 4: to clean get the house straightened out and do everything
Speaker 4: and be there with her, you know. Other than that,
Speaker 4: she would have died before, you know. So I wrote
Speaker 4: about that, and that's why I Well, you can go
Speaker 4: in there and read for free when you have the
Speaker 4: books that you download like Kendle. If you have Kindle,
Speaker 4: you can download that for free. The Me and Jesus
Speaker 4: God spoke to me, and the one that says, I
Speaker 4: want to show you my name right the wrongs. I
Speaker 4: named it that because I was going home to have
Speaker 4: him to take me to the movie so I could
Speaker 4: show him my name. And then other things in the
Speaker 4: books was righting the wrongs about things that had happened
Speaker 4: in the past and things like that, you know. So
Speaker 4: it's all very spiritual, you know. It brings out the
Speaker 4: spiritual in me that people will know that what I say.
Speaker 4: When I say something, I'm telling the truth. And I'm
Speaker 4: very spiritual, even though I walked the wildside, but I'm
Speaker 4: spiritual and I take it very serious. God listens to me,
Speaker 4: and God speaks to me, and God blesses me. No
Speaker 4: matter what happens, is done because God wants it that way.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. You know you said that God send that angel
Speaker 5: to you with the guy in the car. I think
Speaker 5: God sends an angel to your mother, you know, with
Speaker 5: you getting there.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for honoring me with that. It's the truth.
Speaker 4: Because my other siblings knew about it, and they wouldn't
Speaker 4: go to see her. Yeah, And my brother threatened me
Speaker 4: that he would kill me if I came home. And
Speaker 4: because I had sent my classmate out there, the guy
Speaker 4: that died, his sister used to date my brother by
Speaker 4: them call I had told her. When she told me
Speaker 4: what was happening, I asked her if she could go
Speaker 4: and stay with my mother and take care of her
Speaker 4: until I got home in the next three days and
Speaker 4: take her to the doctor. And she said she would,
Speaker 4: And this way I could have finished out the movie.
Speaker 4: But my brother when she went there, my brother threatened
Speaker 4: her clothes, told her said he could take care of
Speaker 4: his own Mama. You know, and close. She wasn't coming
Speaker 4: in the house. And when I called him, he told me,
Speaker 4: if you come home, I'll kill you. So I knew
Speaker 4: I had to go home myself, you know, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4: And anyway, the stories in there, and I had to
Speaker 4: call the police and to tell him what it happened.
Speaker 4: And just luckily one of the guys got the call
Speaker 4: that knew me and he called me back because I
Speaker 4: had left the number. And he went out that night
Speaker 4: to check on my mom and he had to tell
Speaker 4: him a lot that he was just passing and saw
Speaker 4: the light on it, and even though it was late,
Speaker 4: he saw a light on it. He wanted to come
Speaker 4: in just to see if she was okay, because he
Speaker 4: can see it in yours like she know, want to
Speaker 4: be out in the cleaning the little yours. And my
Speaker 4: brother didn't want to let him in the house, but
Speaker 4: he just pushed his way in the house and he
Speaker 4: went in and he told me, he says, I see
Speaker 4: your mother, she's okay, but to make sure you come
Speaker 4: home now, you know. That's what he told me. And
Speaker 4: that's when I got on my knees and I prayed
Speaker 4: to the Lord. That's how he went out and that's
Speaker 4: what saved my mother that night, because had he not
Speaker 4: gone out there, my brother not would have killed her
Speaker 4: outright killed her. He might have. But anyway, I went
Speaker 4: home and Mama told me. She says, you know, she says,
Speaker 4: I prayed for the Lord to send you. She didn't
Speaker 4: say she prayed for the Lord to send the other sisters.
Speaker 4: She says, I pray for the Lord to send you
Speaker 4: to take care of me, because I knew you would
Speaker 4: take care of me. And she always told me, she said,
Speaker 4: you the wildest child I have, but you have the
Speaker 4: best heart. And she always told me that she could
Speaker 4: always depend on me. And I was so happy to
Speaker 4: be able to go. I didn't want to see her sick,
Speaker 4: but I was happy that I was able to go
Speaker 4: and take care of my mom and to see bout her.
Speaker 4: And God, she was, Oh Lord, she was in such
Speaker 4: bad shape. So that's why I wrote that book, because
Speaker 4: I wanted people to know about elderly abuse and the
Speaker 4: leg I wanted to bring awareness to it because so
Speaker 4: many people don't believe it. And I had wanted to
Speaker 4: make it into a film first, but I couldn't get
Speaker 4: the backings. Some of the producers that I knew, and
Speaker 4: so that's when I just went on and wrote it
Speaker 4: and put in a book form, you know, And I
Speaker 4: says I would eventually produce it myself, even if I
Speaker 4: have to do by see.
Speaker 5: Definitely keep us updated.
Speaker 4: Oh, I believe me. I'm going to keep you update
Speaker 4: when they do, I will. But anyway, I enjoyed you
Speaker 4: so much, and I love your I love your podcast.
Speaker 4: I am going to go and be listening to all
Speaker 4: of them. I love stuff like this. Nick. I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: I'm happy that I've seen it, seen these things, and
Speaker 4: there's so many things the Lord, I mercy if I
Speaker 4: would sit down with you sometime in person and tell
Speaker 4: you all these things that I've seen and then my
Speaker 4: tremonditions about other things that God has shown me about
Speaker 4: things and God, it will blow your mind.
Speaker 5: Hopefully we will get the chance one day.
Speaker 4: And thank you for giving me all this time for
Speaker 4: us to talk and everything. I really appreciate it. And
Speaker 4: like I said, I wish you the best, and I
Speaker 4: really thank you. I like I said, I love it,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to go on there and I am
Speaker 4: going to listen to all of them. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: And you have a blessed day.
Speaker 5: Okay, Mary, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that
Speaker 5: for our listeners.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: To Nick, it was lovely to meet you. Okay, take care.
Speaker 4: Same here, take care goodbye and we.
Speaker 5: Would definitely speak soon. Bye for now, okay, all right,
Speaker 5: bye bye. Well, that is all for this episode. Keep
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Speaker 5: to me via the contact page on my website UFO
Speaker 5: Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Mary
Speaker 5: for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I
Speaker 5: will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and
Speaker 5: keep watching the skies. Goodbye to