WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.879 Do you want to report a UFO hanging in? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:06.440 We don't want. 4 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.560 To report every thirty one. 5 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:09.480 Do you wish to report a. 6 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.640 UFO over hey, we want to one of. 7 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.439 Those areas thirty one. 8 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 9 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 10 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.039 I wouldn't know what kind of reports, clouds. 11 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:26.000 Time areas thirty one me neither there were self. 12 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.600 If it was anybody above us to pass us, Like 13 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.719 thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay, 14 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:39.960 OFFI the UFO. Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, 15 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.079 I'll passed over. I got. I don't know what it was, 16 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.280 but it's from at least to three thousand feet above us. See, 17 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.399 I passed out over the top. 18 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.479 Of us ninety one one. 19 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.799 You just called both to me or four rest they're 20 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:58.679 after staying the airplanes. 21 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:06.799 He is to God on an unidentified object every liberty 22 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:14.239 four call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 23 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 24 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 25 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 26 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.879 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 27 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:51.079 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you 28 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.560 all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO 29 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.840 Chronicles podcast. Tonight we welcome Mary, come in to us 30 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:03.400 from New York City. Mary whose encounters go far beyond 31 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.239 lights in the sky. In nineteen ninety seven, while working 32 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.919 on a film set near Tombstone, Arizona, she witnessed a 33 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.479 massive craft, the same shape later tied to the now 34 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:18.479 famous Phoenix lights. What she saught was no illusion, and 35 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:22.639 it wasn't the first time. Mary's sighting stretched back decades 36 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.199 and across states, from New York City to the Southwest, 37 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:30.360 and several have been independently confirmed by Mouffon and even 38 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.199 captured on camera. But UFOs are only part of her story. 39 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.520 Since childhood, Mary has carried something else, the gift of sight. 40 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:44.080 She's experienced vivid premonitions, moments where the future breaks into 41 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.960 the present, including visions of loved ones passing as it 42 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.159 was happening even miles away. This is more than a 43 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:54.400 close encounter. It's a testimony of a woman who spent 44 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:58.520 a lifetime straddle in two realities, one we will see 45 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.479 and one most choose to a nor Mary is up next. 46 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:04.919 But first, if you enjoyed a show and you would 47 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:07.840 like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can 48 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.159 do this for as little as one dollar a month. 49 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.960 Head on over to patreon dot com Forward slash Ufo 50 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.759 Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the 51 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.439 description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. 52 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:43.159 Now on with the show. Hello Mary, Welcome to the podcast. 53 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.479 Hi Nick, how you doing? And thank you for the invite. 54 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.479 Oh you are more than welcome. Thank you for joining 55 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.479 us tonight. And you're calling from New York City. 56 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.199 Yes, the big city, Manhattan, New York. 57 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:59.080 Good stuff. Okay, Now, Mary, you have some sightens to 58 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.719 share with us. Would you like to start the very 59 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:02.800 beginning please, ma'am? 60 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.759 Okay, I've seen a lot of them. Got us start 61 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:09.879 with the ones that I saw out in Arizona. I 62 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.479 was out there work. This was in eighteen ninety seven, 63 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:17.120 in April. I was out there for almost close to 64 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.959 two months. But we were working at this fort Mescal. 65 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.600 It was in Vincent and it's right off from Highway 66 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.360 forty three and Mescal is one of those old forts 67 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.399 that they had and they had set it up for 68 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:35.720 us to shoot a movie which was called Buffalo Soldiers 69 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:39.600 starring Danny Glover, and that was in nineteen ninety seven, 70 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.120 and it was a regular they of shooting, and I 71 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:45.519 just happened to go back to the trailer from where 72 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.600 we were shooting. And then on my way back, you know, 73 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.000 the town, the little town Mescalar is like going on 74 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.399 the western towns the way they had it set up, 75 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.240 and so you know how you walking down a little 76 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.879 street and then you get to the corner and then 77 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.319 you cross over. So as you cross over, you that's 78 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.959 an opening. I just happened to be looking up at 79 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.800 the sky, you know, just looking around, and I happened 80 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.360 to see something to my right. First I thought it 81 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.639 was like a bird, you know, sending myself, my God, 82 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:17.600 that's a big bird. And then I realized, I said, 83 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.480 God's birds. They can't solve that high and that lawn 84 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.160 without flapping their wings. That I got a closer look 85 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:27.680 and I realized it was not a bird. It was 86 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:32.439 an object. It was like a grayish blackish metallic object 87 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.000 in triangular shape. I says, oh, my god, that's a UFO, 88 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.879 because I knew we did not have anything like that. 89 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.360 That could stay stationary in the sky like that, you know, 90 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.959 I says, Oh my god, that's what it is. And 91 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.360 I watched it for about five minutes and so and 92 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.399 I was excited. I went on back block away and 93 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.920 I didn't say anything to anybody, but every so often 94 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:57.800 I would glance up and I would see it in 95 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.560 the same spot. That's definitely UFO because it's not a bird. 96 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.800 And as I said, we don't have anything like that 97 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.120 to stay stationary like that. So I went on and 98 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:09.600 I kept saying it all during the day, and I 99 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.639 didn't say anything for the following day. We had to 100 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:17.160 go a little further out beyond this old western town 101 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.800 called Toonstone. You might have heard of it. It really exists, 102 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.120 and it's in Arizona. So we went beyond that and 103 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.120 we had the film and like an old drive up 104 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.040 river bell. I can't think of the name of the 105 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.879 town or hand, but just beyond that. But it was 106 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.959 a little fur away from Benson. And so I was 107 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.920 working that day and I came out of the trailer trailers, 108 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.120 the hair and makeup trailer, someone call them a camper 109 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.319 where we do the hair and makeup, and I was 110 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.920 standing out there was some of the other coworkers. I 111 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.040 just happened to look back in the direction towards Benson, 112 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.360 and I saw the same identical thing. It's just it 113 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.839 was just a little farther away than what it was 114 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.480 the previous day. But it was the same identical things, 115 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.120 a grayish blackish metallic trying to shape. And so at 116 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.040 that time I told everybody, I says, listen, I says look. 117 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.040 I said, you see this thing over there up in 118 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.120 the sky, and they said yeah, I said, that's the UFOE. 119 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.120 I said, I saw the same thing yesterday, but I 120 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:16.600 just didn't tell anybody, and some of them got monopolis 121 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.199 and they sat up. They said, oh my god, it 122 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.519 is and it's not moving. I said no, I said 123 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.279 it's stationary. And so we watched it for a while 124 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.240 and then we all had to go to work. So 125 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:30.360 what happened. We finished up the film and I came 126 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.040 back to New York. I didn't tell people what I 127 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.720 had seen, but I didn't find out get confirmation what 128 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.040 it was, even though I knew I had seen a UFO, 129 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.839 but I didn't get confirmation anyone. So years later, I 130 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.920 was watching move On. Somehow though I was watching that 131 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.199 because I always be watching things. So happened. That's when 132 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.240 I found out about Moffon. They was on there and 133 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.800 they was talking about things that signs that people had 134 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.759 seen and things like that, and they had videos of it. 135 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:02.759 They showed that, and what they showed, they showed the 136 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.360 same identical thing, not up in the sky, stationary, but 137 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.600 it had been putting on a show for the people 138 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:13.000 in Phoenix during that time, and you could see the 139 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:17.120 lights up under it, and people was taking pictures and 140 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:20.279 videos and everything, and you could see it it was 141 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.879 coming down thelaw. I says, Oh my god, that's exactly 142 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.240 what I saw. It's just that when I saw it, 143 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:29.319 it was stationary because it was in the daytime and 144 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.800 I didn't mention before, but it had to be like 145 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.159 about eleven am when I saw it, and I saw 146 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.639 it all that day, and I saw it the following 147 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.559 day it was about the same time. So it was 148 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.840 just stationary. That just so happened. I happened to see 149 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.440 it at that time. But when it was coming over 150 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.480 the people in Phoenix, they says that it would come 151 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.559 in the evening and it were putting on a show. 152 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.720 And I saw the videos of it and people was 153 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.519 out in New York and everything, and someone was scared. Anyway, 154 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.320 it was the same identical thing, and so that's how 155 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.879 it got to move on. You know, so many people 156 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.000 saw it. Now some of them probably saw the same 157 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.200 thing that I saw. They was stationary, but it's just 158 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.159 that I didn't see it moving about. It was stationary, 159 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.519 and that's what let me know at that moment. It 160 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.360 was not an airplane. We didn't have nothing that could 161 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.600 stay up there, and this skuy just stay there. It's 162 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.600 not like a helicopter can hover and stuff like that. 163 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.879 But you can tell the difference. This was grayish blackish, 164 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.440 metallic triangular shape and it was stationary up there for 165 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.759 the entire day that the following day, I saw it 166 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:31.840 in the same spot. It's just that I was a 167 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.519 distant away. And so that was the same ithentical thing 168 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.000 that move on a sean And it was in the 169 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:41.240 same months, like Marching, April, and but I saw it 170 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.559 in April, and I says, oh my god, I knew, 171 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.840 I knew what I saw. So it confirmed that, you know, 172 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.120 and I was so happy to get a confirmation, even 173 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:51.120 though you know how you know what you know what 174 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.879 you're seeing. But it's just that when someone else take 175 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:56.960 pictures of it, and it's during the same time, you 176 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.360 feel really relieved. You know, even though you what you 177 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:02.480 were saying was true, but you fear leaves that you 178 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.759 got confirmation for it. And so I got confirmation with that. 179 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.799 And also on that same day when I was watching 180 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.279 that move on, them also showed some they were showing 181 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.720 other things. Now I'm going to take you back the 182 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.039 Phoenis light to what I saw was a triangular shaped thing. 183 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.919 That was in nineteen ninety seven. So now flash forward 184 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:29.600 to two thousand of April. I was visiting South Carolina 185 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.360 and I was The town that I was visiting was 186 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.360 like on the it borders North Carolina, but from where 187 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.679 I was that day, it might have been about me 188 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:42.759 three miles from the North Carolina border. I happened to 189 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.519 be staying the yard because it was in a rural area. 190 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.919 A family member was planting some plants and I was 191 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.360 standing out by the road, and another a male cousin, 192 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.480 he was there and I was just standing up on 193 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:59.279 the road just looking. And have you ever seen anything 194 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.639 that you're looking at something and all of a sudden 195 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:03.720 you realize something's been going on. Right in front of 196 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.159 your eyes, and you didn't realize until just that moment, 197 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.879 you know, what you saw. So I happened to see 198 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.399 this first of all, it was like the sun was 199 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:14.159 still up. I will say, it was like about a 200 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.279 half an hour before the sunset, you know. And so 201 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.320 I'm sitting up there and I'm looking, but I see 202 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.480 this big bright thing, like a you know, saw, And 203 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.320 I said to myself, good God, I never said star 204 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:29.639 like that. When I was little, and my father used 205 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.480 to bring us outside at night and show us all 206 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.840 the planets, like you know, like the Nine planets, and 207 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.279 he would show us the Big Dipper. He would even 208 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:40.360 bring us outside at night, like on New Year's Eve 209 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.000 and show us when the old year went out and 210 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:44.480 the new year went out. I don't know if you 211 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:46.879 ever heard about that, but all the old folks would 212 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.480 do that. And if you can actually see it, like 213 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.080 it just something just goes over and something new coming 214 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.000 in the sky. I don't know whether you will watched it. 215 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:55.840 If you have one, it good to try it, especial 216 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.799 if it's a clear night. Because anyway, I said to myself, 217 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.600 not following up, showed up now that big in that direction. 218 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:03.919 I says, my God, what is that this thing was? 219 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:05.879 It was would have to be one of the nine planets. 220 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.000 You'll follow what I said. And so because I'm watching this, 221 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:14.159 I realized that there was a tiny little little thing, 222 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:16.600 a little like a tiny little woman because it was 223 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.559 like yellow. And all of a sudden it time to 224 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:21.960 me that little thing had been moving back and forth 225 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.039 going to the big thing, which was the mother ship, 226 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.960 and it was blinking like giving us some information. Then 227 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.159 it would go back. I says, oh God, that's a 228 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.720 U of Hel. That is not no dog on planet. 229 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.840 But it seemed so close. It might have been about 230 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.799 maybe block wise thirty blocks. But this was in a 231 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.519 rural area, like in the country area, for across some 232 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.519 fields and beyond some woods, so it seemed like it 233 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.879 might have been closer than what it was. So I 234 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.960 told my sister and the ones that was out there 235 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.480 doing her little flowers, and my mail cousin. I says, listen, 236 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.559 if y'all have never seen the UFO in your life, 237 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.399 I'm telling you that one right there, and I pointed 238 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.600 to it. Then I showed them. Now at the same time, 239 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.039 that same sister that was doing the little flowers, she 240 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.840 had seen one when she was a child along with 241 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.639 my father, not far from exactly where we were standing. 242 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.240 But it was shaped cigar shape and it was like 243 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:17.039 a wristco and my father had always told me about it, 244 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.320 and my sister was telling aboudy, but that particular day 245 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.080 she just said, oh, okay, they saw it. I didn't 246 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.840 realize at the time that it was over in Fatville, 247 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.600 North Carolina, by foot dry, but I knew it was 248 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.440 a UFO because we don't have an an type of 249 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.639 aircraft can stand up like that, don't do anything, and 250 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.879 then another little thing comes from it, goes out do 251 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.960 a little blank and then go back over and blank blank, 252 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.120 like it's given us intel. I said, that's a UFO. 253 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.639 It's like a mothership with a little prob going from it. 254 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:49.519 And I had been seeing it for a while, but 255 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.279 like I was running my mouth talking and things like that, 256 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.000 so I just didn't pay attention to. All of a 257 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.519 sudden it dawned at me that that small little thing 258 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.080 was going back and forth to the big one. Didn't 259 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.480 go in it, but close enough to it, and would blink. 260 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.039 Is if it's given him something? I says, Oh my god. 261 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.879 And so to the day when I was watching move 262 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.960 On and they had on there about the Phoenix lights. 263 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.600 They also had on there about the lights in Fatville, 264 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.559 and the same month and the same year, which was 265 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.799 Abril two thousand. I says, oh my god, that's what 266 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.799 I saw. But the thing about it, it seemed like 267 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.919 it was closer to me than what it was because 268 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.720 where I was, it was six miles away from them. 269 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:31.440 Now that's how big it was. That I could see it, 270 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.759 you know, and it was sixty miles away. But I'm 271 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.559 thinking it might've been like no more than a mile 272 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.480 or two. You know, that's how big it was. And 273 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.279 they had a big thing about it, the way they 274 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.399 was talking about it on Move On, about the people 275 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:47.159 that they had interviewed over in Fattville, and so many 276 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.919 people had they was interviewing and talked about it, and 277 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.480 one guy even went so far this. You know, you 278 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.080 never can say what people say is true or not. 279 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.919 He was talking about he saw it, and that some 280 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.240 little people came and Jordan hearing voud it in the 281 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.519 house and to people like kind of like laughing off. 282 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:05.399 It could be true and it could not. But I 283 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.919 do know one thing. There were so many other people 284 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.360 that gave interviews that they really saw this ship and 285 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:13.919 the whole thing, and about the smaller one too, And 286 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.240 that's when I found out it was over Fort Bragg 287 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.879 and fed via North Carolina. That was true, that was 288 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:25.600 confirmed by Moufon, you know, and so that it made 289 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.360 me feel good to know that what I saw was real, 290 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.960 even though I knew it was real, even if I hadn't. 291 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:34.159 But when someone when you see somebody like that, and 292 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.559 so many people in other places seen the same thing 293 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.440 in the same date, in the same year, so you 294 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.159 know what you saw was real. Something was real. 295 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:47.039 Interesting stuff. Mary, So the first time you're in Arizona. 296 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.240 That was the first time I was in Arizona first time, 297 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.080 And but did I have a great time. I experienced 298 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.879 so many things. Arizona is one beautiful state. Certain parts 299 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.799 of it. It's like time has got about it. People 300 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.679 hadn't been We shot in areas like people hadn't been 301 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.559 out there in hundreds of years. You know, the way 302 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.080 when you shoot moves you go to all these isolated 303 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.639 places and things like that. Unbelievable. It's beautiful. It just 304 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.120 has so many things to see. I just truly enjoyed it. 305 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.480 But like I said, I never thought I would see auble, 306 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.840 but I did it. But I'm very happy that I did. 307 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.039 Working on Buffalo Soldiers, you were doing hair and makeup? 308 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:28.279 Yes, I was doing hair. 309 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:30.320 Did you do Donny Glover's hair? 310 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.279 I didn't do his hair. Somebody else did his hair, 311 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.279 but I did tractic everybody else's hair in there. But 312 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.240 I do know him quite well, his family and stuff. 313 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:41.960 I will say we're friends. I'll put it to you 314 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.639 like that, Bet and I. I got to know his 315 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.480 father so well, and I worked with him on other 316 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.279 numerous things too. Dan is a nice guy, and I 317 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.039 know his hair and make up people because he has 318 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.840 his own hair and make up, so I know them. 319 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.279 So that's why I didn't do his hair. But I 320 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.080 got to know him quite well, and he's a wonderful guy. 321 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.480 As matter of fact, when we were when I saw 322 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:10.799 that particularly triangle shape in the second day, his makeup 323 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.799 artist is the one that gave us the monocolos so 324 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:15.960 we can get a closer look at it. When we 325 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.720 saw it from another location out beyond Tombstone when we 326 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.480 were shooting, because I ran in and I told her 327 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:24.480 that she was busy where she said he had take 328 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.319 the monocolars go out there and look at it. So 329 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:27.920 I gave it to the other guys, some of the 330 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.960 other actors, so they could get a close up look 331 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:30.359 on it. 332 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.279 So you got the more interested in the UFO on set. 333 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.079 Yes, yes, they looked at it. And because I showed 334 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:37.559 it to him. Like I said, the first day I 335 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.599 saw it, I didn't say anything to anybody about it. 336 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:42.920 And it's not that I was, you know, thinking they 337 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:44.720 would say, oh no, because if they'd have looked at it, 338 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.559 they would have seen too that we didn't have no 339 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.039 airplane shaped like that. But to stay stationary like that 340 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.359 one spot. When I saw it, I said, let me 341 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:54.559 tell them so they could see it too, because some 342 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.920 of them might not have never seen anything like that. 343 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.920 I said, well, this be a first. I saw another 344 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.440 the one. I've seen a lot of them, but this 345 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.400 one was in twenty eleven here in New York. But 346 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:10.160 it was in the Hamptons and we were filming out there. 347 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.640 It was a night shoot, and we was filming at 348 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.279 one of these houses that they rent out, like those 349 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.640 big masshones and things that they rent out to shoot 350 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.920 stuff like that. It was out safe beyond eleven PM, 351 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.880 like between eleven and two, and we was on this porch. 352 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.000 They had a big wrap around porch, and you know, 353 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.640 we're all out there hanging out on the porch and 354 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.480 in the yard, and I happened to spot this object. 355 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.240 It was a cigar shape like now they'll call them 356 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.680 a cylinder shape, our capsule shape. See back in the 357 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.920 day when my father, when I choldren, my father and 358 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:49.079 my sister saw the cigar shape. One they didn't call 359 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:53.920 things like all capsules the cylinders at that time, you understand, 360 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.480 and TikTok shapes, you follow. I'm saying, that's why they 361 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.799 knew it was in the shape of a cigar. This 362 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.440 was the same shape, but nowadays they'll call it a 363 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.400 tic tac shape, a cell in the shape. And it 364 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:09.000 was like a cream colored white and it was huge. 365 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:11.519 But the thing about it, I didn't there was no 366 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.240 scenes or anything like where you see anything put together 367 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.039 or anything like that. But in the back of it, 368 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.680 it was a different color thing coming out of it, 369 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.559 like the way it was attached, but you didn't see 370 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.880 no attachment. And it was yellow like it might be 371 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.279 a light. But you know how when you see a 372 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:31.519 light come out of something, it's just like a straight thing. 373 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:35.480 But what was so ironic about this the yellow part 374 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:37.559 that looked like it could have been a light coming out, 375 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.119 like shining from out of the back of it. It 376 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.400 was almost like a horn shape, you know, like the 377 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:45.880 big part of a horn, like a bell shaped but 378 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.400 safe instant like a qew draw a triangle the wide 379 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:51.359 part of the triangle, and then you come to the 380 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:54.480 smallest part. It was like that, But I tell you 381 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.720 it was like a horn or bell, so you understand 382 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.319 how the big part of it was. But it actually 383 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.680 like a triangle, the big part of the wide part 384 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.119 of the triangle. But as you go to the narrow point, 385 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.160 it didn't go to the tiniest point the narrowest point. 386 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.559 It was like a little further in going towards the 387 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:16.640 wide part. And I'm saying to myself, if that's light 388 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.880 coming out behind it, how is it coming out in 389 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.200 that angle like a triangle? You followed, I'm saying, I 390 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.880 thought that was very odd. How what was making it 391 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.640 come out like that? And I pointed that out to 392 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.200 all the others on the set that was right around 393 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:36.440 the pas and like first ads and different things like that. 394 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.599 It wasn't a whole lot of us, but it was 395 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:40.319 a few of our corner and we all watched it 396 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.000 and it was like you could tell it was on 397 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.640 a mission. It knew where it was going, and it 398 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.480 was not a missile. Believe me when I tell you this. 399 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.319 This was some type of arjict from someplace else, just 400 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.119 skipping and it wasn't like zipping and zapping. It was 401 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:58.160